Dan Wootton Outspoken - NIGEL FARAGE’S REFORM UK INSPIRED BY GERMAN RIGHT ANTI-IMMIGRATION POLITICAL EARTHQUAKE

Episode Date: September 2, 2024

To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show for 30-minutes extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium A political earthquake in Germany that could lead to an anti-globalist, pro nation state revolution across Europe. Nigel Farage’s Reform UK has said they are inspired and boosted by the AFD’s shock election victory, which the MSM is in its typical tone deaf fashion likening to the Nazis. In his Digest, Dan argues how the demonisation of ordinary citizens wanting to slash immigration as “far right” will only help result in Reform UK seizing power in the UK.  Then his Superstar Panel - Father Phil Canon and Dame Andrea Jenkyns - weigh in.  PLUS: Kemi Badenoch talks a good game as she launches her campaign for Tory leader, but will not commit to immigration cut targets AND: A disgusting lack of political condemnation over the out of control violence at the Notting Hill Carnival resulting in two murders over the weekend, proving two tier policing now dominates, as Lucy Connolly is told she will be JAILED for a post on X on the day of the Southport massacre To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show for 30-minutes extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ask your Chevrolet dealer for details. I'm Dan Wotton. This is Outspoken Live, episode number 42. A political earthquake in Germany that could lead to an anti-globalist, pro-nation state revolution across Europe. Nigel Farage's Reform UK are inspired and boosted by the AFD's shock election victory. We're eight or nine weeks into this growing, darkening nightmare. Yes, I mean, I think you look at the polls, Labour are collapsing in the polls, Keir Starmer's personal approval

rating is collapsing in the polls. Reform UK, we're going up in the polls. But the MSM in its typical tone-deaf fashion, is lightning folk opposing open borders to the Nazis in the 1930s. In my digest next, I argue how this demonisation of ordinary citizens wanting to slash immigration as far-right will only help result in Reform UK seizing power in Britain. Then my superstar panel, Father Phil Cannon and Dame Andrea Jenkins weigh in, also coming up today. Kemi Badenoch talks a good game as she launches her campaign for Tory leader,

but will not commit to immigration cut targets. People should not be made to feel guilty for questioning levels of immigration legal or illegal if it is changing the place they know and love. And a disgusting lack of political condemnation over the out-of-control violence at the Notting Hill carnival which has now resulted in two deaths over the weekend proving two-tier policing now dominates that's as Lucy Connolly is told she will be jailed for a post on x on the day of the Southport massacre we'll hear from her husband a Tory party councillor, for the first time. You know, an upset housewife, really. Just seeing children and the reports with all the misinformation

and just got dragged into it. And obviously she regrets it. Much more of that interview with Raymond Connolly later. But I have to say, it is insane that Lucy, a mum of three, has been remanded in custody. She is still in jail and told she faces a significant custodial sentence while the two-tier UK justice system fails to jail child rapists and violent criminals while releasing murderers early. That is where we're at under this Labour government.

Then, in the uncancelled after show, Meghan Markle's sister Samantha Markle reacts to the bombshell reports that Prince Harry is planning a return to Britain. I have loads to say on this today, so you can register to watch our after show on our website right now at www.outspoken.live. It is a safe space, free of censorship. Your support at just £5 a month not only gives you 30 minutes of extra content every single weekend, a weekday, sorry, every single weekday, Monday to Friday, it also allows us to continue making this independent daily news show. So with no spin, no bias and no censorship, let's go. Another political earthquake on the continent overnight, AFD, the low immigration alternative

for Germany, got more votes than the three parties in the coalition government put together in the German local elections in the east, while doing incredibly well in Saxony too. Meanwhile, BSW, the left-wing low immigration party, which just launched, went straight into double digits too. So without going into the intricacies of German politics, just trust me when I say this signifies the start of a revolution against the woke ruling classes that have imported the third world into nation states for decades and expect the native European population to sit back and do or say nothing. And they expect us to do that, and the Germans to do that, even when members of ISIS are allowed into the country illegally to stab dead innocents at a music festival. So of course the mainstream media say such a revolution is far right. So lazy, aren't they? Like this front page splash from the Times, shamefully invoking the Nazis.

Kathy Gingell from Conservative Woman, she's actually here later this week, raged about that front page. Shame on the Times. What a shocking and unwarranted and deliberately smearing headline. But the usual suspects, they continue with this lazy narrative in order to do anything possible to divert from actually discussing the issues like the race baiting failed first minister of scotland whom's useless who posts on x a party steeped in xenophobia anti-semitism and islamophobia is winning state elections in germany europe is witnessing a rising tide of far-right populism with hatred of Muslims and migrants being the driving force. We must confront their hateful ideology before it is too late. I

mean, I have loads I could say to that, but I actually wanted to share a response from our brilliant guest from last week, the academic and media sensation Gad Saad, who replied, is Islam steeped in any xenophobia and Jew hatred? I ask because I see innumerable Islamic countries where the religious minorities have completely disappeared, especially the Jewish ones. Could you elaborate, oh noble Muslim? But look, the reality is the demonization of ordinary folk, people who are concerned about mass immigration, people who are concerned about losing control of our borders and losing our culture demonizing us as far right as Germany

and as France proves it just isn't going to work anymore it isn't going to cut it there is nothing far right about wanting to stop the boats stop mass mass immigration now, and deport the rapists, thieves, and terrorists who have entered our country under completely false pretenses. And in the UK, I believe that is only going to strengthen one man. One man who finally got an office in Westminster today. Good Lord. Day one, I've actually got an office in Westminster today. Good Lord. Day one, I've actually got an office. You know what this means? I'll spend less time in the bar. And he needs to. Nigel, less time in the bar please, because you've got a political revolution

to lead. And Reform UK's chairman Ziaia Youssef, said in a major interview with The Independent today that the party will be inspired by the right-wing revolution going on on the continent, especially in France, but also Germany. So this is what he said. We are a very different party from them, and that is true, but we live in unprecedented times and we have five years, not two, to double our vote. It's Deputy Leader Richard Tice, bullish as well. There's a reason why they were sent to prison in the first place.

And the concept of people now being let out after serving, it appears sometimes a mere one-fifth, just 20% of the length of their sentence, so that they can bang up people who may have put out something daft and ill-advised on social media. I mean, it's completely dystopian. It's completely terrifying. As I say, we're eight or nine weeks into this growing, darkening nightmare. And yes, I mean, I think if you look at the polls, Labour are collapsing in the polls. Keir Starmer's personal approval rating is collapsing in the polls. Reform UK, we're going up in the polls.

We're setting up hundreds of branches in Labour heartland areas and other target areas. So we're getting ready. That's the reality as we head towards conference. It won't take long to tell you Neutral's ingredients. Vodka, soda, natural flavours. So, what should we talk about? No sugar added? Neutral. Refreshingly simple.

Indeed, Zia Youssef, Reform's chairman, who I mentioned, said in that interview that a number of people from the Conservative Party's CCHQ, that's their main headquarters which have done a terrible job, have reached out to him saying that the Tory's bureaucracy is corrupted. And sadly, based on the Tory leadership contest, I am far losing all faith with the party I previously supported. Now, the favourite, Kemi Badenoch, she launched her campaign today with, as usual, tough words. This was one of our mistakes. We talked right, but governed left.

Sounding like Conservatives, but acting like Labour. Government should do fewer things but better and what it does, it should do with brilliance. Second, I believe in citizenship. Citizenship is not just about having a passport. It is a commitment to a country and the people in it. A country belongs to its citizens. It is nothing without them.

We cannot treat their needs or concerns as secondary or inconvenient or of a lower priority than anyone else's. People should not be made to feel guilty for questioning levels of immigration, legal or illegal, if it is changing the place they know and love. And government should not be shy of doing whatever it takes to change things. If people don't want their taxes to pay for foreign criminals to be in our jails or on our streets, those criminals should be removed. If they want local people to have priority for housing, for benefits, for school places. We must make that happen. Our country is not a dormitory for people just here to make money or a hotel for those passing through. It is our home and no one else will look after it. This was one of...

Okay, so that sounded good, right? Nothing that I disagree with there. But Cammy Badenot was then asked what she actually wanted immigration to be cut to. Now, I'm very clear on this. I want net zero immigration. But Cammy had nothing specific to say. We've had Robert Jenrick saying a cap of tens of thousands. We've had Tom Tugendhat saying a cap of tens of thousands. We've had Tom Tugendhat saying a cap of 100,000.

Can you give us some specifics in numbers and how you plan to deal with legal and illegal migration? Thank you. Thank you. And I'm really glad you asked the migration question because what you have said shows and illustrates quite well where things went wrong. We had a cap of tens of thousands when David Cameron came in.

We need to ask ourselves, why didn't that work, rather than just saying, we'll make another promise. Something went wrong there. So it's not just about throwing out numbers and throwing out targets. Something is wrong with the system. So I'm talking about the system. People who are throwing out numbers and saying oh i will leave the echr and so on are giving you easy answers that is how we got in

this mess in the first place i'm not going to do that that's not good enough i'm afraid miss badenock if you're not prepared to leave the echr then you're not prepared to leave the ECHR, then you're not prepared to solve the problem. And while he's a very amenable bloke, I think he's a nice guy, there were also no specifics from the former Home Secretary James Cleverley, who used his launch today to unwisely publicly repudiate Nigel Farage, lumping him, I believe unfairly, in the same category as two-tier Kia watch. I don't accept the shared declinism of Starmer and Farage, who both believe that our best days are behind us. Starmer thinks it was better before we left the EU. Farage thinks it was better before we joined the EU. They're both wrong. I know that our best years can be ahead of us, but only if we replace this useless Labour government.

And in order to win again, we need a leader who can unite the party, and I'm the best place to do that. Because... And I'm the best place to do that because... I'm the best place to do that because to command loyalty, you have to have displayed loyalty. And I have always served the leader of the day, never briefed against colleagues. Your loyalty, though, the leader of the day. Never briefed against colleagues. Your loyalty, though, should be to the people. Your voters.

The people who voted for Brexit because we wanted to control our borders. So, look, I find this difficult to say, but the Conservatives look like a spent force. And I believe it's Reform UK that is now set to benefit from this right-wing revolution that we have seen sweeping Europe. And if you think such a revolution isn't possible here in the UK, you might be surprised. Because after five years of this utter shitshow, Britons will finally have had enough. To react to that and all of the day's big stories, let me bring in my superstar panel. And today I am delighted to be joined once more by Dame Andrea Jenkins, the former Education Secretary,

who was the first Tory, actually, to have the guts to call for Sunak to go if only her party had listened to her. We are also joined by the Reverend Canon Father Phil Harris, who recently went viral for his video on why it's no longer a bad thing to be called far right. And Father Phil, we keep getting this, don't we? The Times say, oh, this is the far right sweeping Germany again for the first time since the Nazis in the 1930s. It's nothing of the sort. It is nothing of the sort.

All the folk who have voted for the AFD, I believe in the same way like the folk who have voted for reform uk want is their borders to be controlled is an end to mass immigration is an end to isis terrorists being illegally allowed into the country to then stab citizens who are innocently attending a music Am I wrong? No, you're not. This whole far right. Dystopian kind of phrase that's been bandied around is just becoming incredibly divisive and problematic. And I when we spoke last time, Dan, I think we were saying, you know, those of us that are centrist and maybe centrist slightly right, because the left have gone so far left, we are now far right to them. And when in reality, democracy, rule of law, respect and tolerance and individual liberties are what we stand for, the things that are actually known as British national identity. And so by speaking up now and by branding us with this horrible term of far right, it just actually attempts to minimise a voice. It tries to lump everybody together. And it's just incredibly dangerous

because the people that the governments have lost, and I'm talking about the current Labour government and dare I say the Conservative government previously, where they've lost the people, they've lost the people and they govern by consent. And the people have switched off after all the wranglings, particularly over Brexit. And I said before, it doesn't matter whether you were a Leave or Remainer. The fact is the will of the people was not enacted. And saw people not going out and voting. And we're now left with this kind of vacuum where the majority of people are not listened to.

And those people, as they speak up, get this wonderful phrase, far right. And I just find it offensive. And the kind of backlash I've had, particularly in Christian circles, where I thought in identifying, you know, and saying I'm a far right priest, according to Sakir Starmer, that would actually bring some common sense. What it's done is caused a backlash against me, you know, for actually just trying to call out the madness of this phrase of far right yeah dame andrea jenkins what do you make of this far right phrase because i find like it's being used to try and demonize voters and demonizing voters is never the way to win them over no i completely agree dan i think what we've seen even in the last eight weeks that Labour's been in power, the double standards, their hypocrisy and they are trying to just silence people. And if we look across what's going on in Germany, I mean look at some of the things they stand for.

I mean I think Wiki called it welfare chauvinism which means actually restricting welfare to the host citizens um to they are pro leave the eu um they want to control their borders and i think people's had enough and this just epitomizes that we are going to see a rise of you know similar parties across europe if people keep getting ignored yeah indeed indeed and actually let's just break down actually kathy gingell did this for us from conservative women she broke down the remarkable victory that adf had in eastern germany they won 32 of 88 seats in the region's parliament that's 10 more seats than it had before. Second place to CDU, followed by this new recently formed party, the Union for Reason and Justice, with 15 seats.

Two more parties entered the local parliament too, which showed just this massive turnoff from the Olaf Scholz party. And the two parties of the ruling federal coalition, Greens and the Free Liberals, failed to receive any seats at all. Turnout was 73.6%. So as she said, Father Phil, if that doesn't send a message to the woke and extremist ruling elites, I don't know what will. No, but there's a warning in all of this, is there not, Dan, that what we, politics and people's opinions previously had been, that you've got some views of far left, far right, and it's all become... So you look at some of the things that AFD stand for, which maybe are not palatable, but they're certainly not all far right.

And so it's just, you know, we've got left and right mixed together, what we have is extreme views. And I think that's the problem, where it becomes very dangerous is where ordinary people are being branded with having extreme views. And that becomes a significant problem. And I think if we look at all the characteristics of these parties that are springing up you see some radical views in there as well as common sense views the problem is people are just fed up um and they're fed up because there's no common sense and um no no well indeed there's not and the thing is you look at what starmer had to say and in fact we've got this from from last week what he had to say about the far right i mean who's he talking

about is he talking about the millions of people who voted for reform uk is he really calling us far right because if so that is disgusting and it is declaring war on the working classes of britain but this is what he had to say i am worried about the far right i'm worried about populism and nationalism and the politics of the easy answer the snake oil if you like and i think it's very important that we have a debate about how we confront that my own personal view is that um through delivery through showing that there are progressive democratic answers to the many challenges we face is the way forward but yes that's a discussion that i'm very keen to have because i think it's a very real threat i am worried so dame andrea

jenkins who's he talking about there nigel farage i think all of us on this um on the show actually dan um and probably everyone watching too absolutely i mean i'd like to just pick up on um reverend phil's point i was going to use the common sense um this is what people are crying out for and starmer speech was spoken in um in the true form as a globalist would speak I think people are sick of this progressive globalist agenda. And I think we're seeing rise of the nation state again. I think when people are struggling, they want to look after their own country, their own people. And I think that's actually natural if you look across history.

And so I think that the more he pushes this globalist progressive agenda, as he calls it, the more backlash we're going to have from the general public. Yeah. Do you agree, Phil? Yeah, without a shadow of a doubt. You can't divide people. You can't brand people. because I had a parishioner who came to me who is approaching their 80s, travelled well around the world, well educated, paid their taxes, loved the nation, been a school teacher, contributed, done all the things that are the values of British national identity, and said, in tears, I've just been called far right.

And it was just, and I sat in the office here, I sat in the vestry and just went, this is just woefully, woefully wrong to take ordinary decent people who care about their country. And have done the right thing in life haven't they and some of these people by the way some of these people who literally fought the nazis for this country are now being branded far right it's actually disgusting and dan sorry i'm just mentioning this one point um the backlash in germany also is down to look at the ghettos of illegal migrants and the rising crime including rape um including violence so this is a backlash to uncontrolled um illegal migration so i think we've really got to keep an eye what's

going on here next to be honest with you. Well, of course we do. Of course we do, because it's like nothing to see here. There's not migrants coming over and raping and stabbing young women. There's not migrants coming over and launching stabbing attacks on individuals at festivals from the mainstream media. But we know it's happening. You can't hide the truth from us for too long. But of course, there is another threat, I would argue, far bigger than the so-called far right. And it's the sectarian politics, which is entering the UK. And quite an extraordinary announcement breaking right now from Jeremy Corbyn. Let me read this to you from The Guardian. He is to form an official parliamentary alliance with four independent MPs who were elected on pro-Gaza platforms,

issuing a call for more MPs to join. Now, the group will have the same number of MPs as Reform UK and the Democratic Unionist Party, which each have five MPs, more than the Greens and Plaid Cymru, promising to fight austerity and campaign on issues including the winter fuel allowance and arms sales to Israel the group explicitly invited MPs to join them so Corbyn he is of course the independent MP for Islington North and he is going to be joined by the MPs Shokat Adam, Ayub Khan, Adnan Hussein and Iqbal Muhammad. So this is now a far left, let's just be honest about what it is, Father, for an Islamic bloc in Westminster,

which is something that Nigel Farage warned of for a long time. Sectarian politics, Muslim politics entering Westminster and was told he was crazy. And look at where we are in 2024. Yes. Can I just be a priest for 10 seconds, please? So just being the priest for 10 seconds, we see kind of quoted and put out there of this great, you know, this verse from Leviticus that talks about the stranger who dwells among you and welcoming the stranger and the sojourner and the foreigner. Now, I would just love somewhere for a Christian minister to unpack that properly, because the people that came into the nation of Israel that that's talking

about and by the way when Israel left Egypt a number of Egyptians went with them and what they had to do was adapt to the customs of Israel and so the sojourner had to keep for instance the Sabbaths and the Passovers and follow the Jewish religion. And so what we actually have now is a scenario where we are welcoming people in. And can I just be very clear here? If there is a genuine refugee, I want to help them all of my life. You know, and in terms of ministry, I have been in the last three years working with India as an example. And I've been in India and Africa and people are calling me racist when and that's that's deeply sectarian and problematic. And all that I'm saying is if people come to this nation, we actually talk about respect and tolerance and

individual liberties. And so we should. But there is a responsibility for people who come to the nation to abide by our laws, not try to set up their own laws and actually adopt the British way of life, just like the foreigner and the stranger and the sojourner had to do so when they arrived in the land of Israel, in the nation of Israel. And the Houses of Parliament, right in the centre of the floor there in the central lobby, and Dame Andrea will know this, is in Latin there is a verse that says, unless the Lord builds the house, those that do so labour in vain. And so from my point of view, what we have now seemingly is an agenda. Now, let me be clear. I am not anti-Muslim. I am anti-radical Islam. And there's a difference there.

No, there is a critical difference. But, Andrew, at the end of the the day from a political point of view surely this new party organization i mean however you want to put it is designed to push labor further to the left on these issues because they are worried about losing the muslim vote oh completely and and i think that we'll see they will go even more to the left um because what um starmer sees is that barrage and reform are hot on their tails and they don't want to hemorrhage any more votes to independence as they've seen in that group but it clearly is a group which wants to obliterate israel in my view and um and that should be called out dan if it was in any other

religion trying to do this with another religion we would not accept it but but i mean i'd say about corbyn though i mean i'll say this jest, but have we not got the Communist Party of Great Britain under Labour? It could easily join them, couldn't it? In some ways it would fit in quite well. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You agree, Father? Oh, you know, the anti-Semitism piece. And if anybody looks me up, they will see how pro-Israel I am.

And another point that I will make here, I don't see how a Christian cannot be, because we're based on Judeo-Christian values. And there is this complete... Exactly, exactly, exactly, Andrea. And so we have democracy and we're constantly pulling down democracy. And, you know, I spent for 10 years, you know, a month every year in Israel. And I have people having spats with me online and I go, well, when was the last time you was in Israel because I was in there just the month before the war happened and I happen to be a trustee of Christian holy sites in Israel and so when I hear people kind of spouting anti-semitism and just the hate and Gad Saeed brilliantly put it in the tweet you know when we actually look at all the muslim nations where jews were and are no longer because they've been pushing and then we have dare i say um church leaders who are pro-palestine and i'm not going to particularly get into that but the the home and birthplace of Christ was 83% Christian before Islam took over, and it's now 8% Christian. In Gaza,

prior to the war, there was about 700 to 800 Christians, and a number of years ago, there were 5,000 Christians. So this is a massive problem to me. And let me just reiterate, I don't have a problem with individual Muslims. I have a problem with radical Islam. Can I bring a point as well, actually, Dan? Please. When I was an MP for the Leeds area, some Jewish students contacted me and I met with a Jewish council, etc.

And let's not forget that Corbyn has got a massive student following. But the anti-Semitism that they faced in the University of Leeds, in the main communal areas, they was allowed to put the Palestinian flag. There was openly, you know, from the rivers to the sea was chanted i got told how um even the students lect certain lecturers was against them and still putting stuff on social media so with starmer now cancelling the freedom of speech bill in universities i think this is a dangerous tipping point now actually for jewish students students and the Jewish community in Britain, unfortunately. It is really terrifying times. I do want to talk quickly about the conservative leadership and show you this video of Kemi Badenoch, the favourite, who is saying that she is going to take on those folk like Doctor Who David Tennant trying

to shut her up watch this until we wake up and Kemi Badenoch doesn't exist anymore I don't wish ill of her I just wish her to shut up no I will not shut up when you have that type of cultural establishment trying to keep conservatives down you need someone like me who's not afraid of Doctor Who or whoever, and who's going to take the fight to them and not let them try and keep us down. That's not going to happen with me. So Dame Andrea, great messaging there, very slick. But the problem that I had with Ms Badenoch today at the campaign launch, as I pointed out in my digest,

the moment she was asked for a specific when it came to immigration numbers, she went back to the mumbo jumbo. She went back to saying it's not appropriate to leave the ECHR. So actually, is she going to do anything different? She's not. I mean, you know, I've obviously been in parliament with her those last several years and what was interesting how she used that quote sounding like a conservative but acting like labor her voting record is actually like that and remember she was tasked with um ripping up eu law she did a terrible job the amount of um laws are still on the statute for labor to allow further closer alignment so i blame her

for that but also um if you look she made that speech about um speech about um citizenship um i'm i recall that gove made a similar speech about citizenship back in 2007 you might want to look into that actually dan because that's i remember that um particularly because that's when i joined the party around that time so you know we're here that she's meant to be in there to go it's worth looking in that but but the thing is with Kemi what you see is not what you get she's great at the rhetoric at the wokey stuff but but there's nothing behind there there's there's no you're not a fan I've seen her I've seen her in parliament she's voted for more net zero she's um pro you and you know what i find quite staggering dan she was on the london

assembly she was also a councillor in london you look prior to 2016 her footprint online has been wiped her footprint prior to um brexit has been wiped why is that who's cleaned up um her footprint online fascinating father phil any of these folk running for the conservative leadership who you think could save the party there they all are uh i'm i'm going to i'm i'm going to just go pass if I can. I mean, I don't mind coming in on this, actually, Dan. Because you're pro-Pretty, aren't you? Well, I'm pro-Pretty because, I mean, literally, I mean, she's having to a little bit at the moment play things carefully because don't forget

about 80% of the Conservative MPs are the One Nation group. So for her to get through to the next stage, she's got to play a fairly straight back by that concern. However, she's a Spartan who voted against all the

awful Brexit deals. She voted against the Windsor Framework, which was re-sheffed in Northern Ireland. And she's a Thatcherite conservative. She's brilliant. Now, if she doesn't get through to the next round, which I'll be very sad about, I really hope she does, then we need to look at the ones that's left. But I think that she can actually stand up to Dharma. And look, she's been in politics longer than anyone there.

She's been a conservative. And don't forget, she also, did she also Jimmy Goldsmith's party all those years ago? She campaigned with them to leave. You know, she's a truth, actually, conservative. What was it? Was it the referendum party? That was it, yes. That was it, yeah. No, she's a truth, actually, conservative. Yeah, what was it? Was it the referendum party? Is that what it was? That was it, yes.

That was it, yeah. No, she, I mean, goodness, when it comes to her Brexit credentials, perfect, absolutely perfect. Yeah. But she doesn't want to leave ECHR. And I've got a big problem with that. I'm sorry.

I mean, look, I had a petition. I came on your old show, Dan, didn't I? You did. I had a talk about it where over 50 000 signatures we must leave the echr um now i think that is the only way i mean genwick's coming out with some good stuff um yeah he's he's he's my favorite at the moment but let's see let's see but it's a bit like a born again christian to me it's been showing these credentials since January. But Father Phil will say it's always possible to be born again, isn't it Father Phil? Come on.

But I do like Robert. I want his PPS. And I just want somebody who will bring back conservatism. Now I hope Priti can do that. If she doesn't, then I look at who next. Cleverly nice guy, but like he said he's been loyal but is also does not challenge a civil servant stand as you know i was in the education department with him it was just all very much a loving i didn't see any challenging of civil

servants and we don't want anybody like that at this stage i like him as a guy the problem is he will not set the world alight yeah the problem is the party has to realize a revolution is required and genric is the only one who is talking that language i appreciate his voting record i don't necessarily trust but i like the fact he is talking that language but look father phil dame andrea stand by we're back in just one moment with this horrifying story that Lucy Connolly, who's the wife of a conservative politician who made an inappropriate post on X on the day of the Southport massacre, has pled guilty today, but been remanded in custody and told to expect a significant jail sentence. We are going to hear from her husband in just one minute.

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Yes, the tweet was despicable. It was wrong. But she admitted that very soon after posting it. She said that it was in the heat of the moment. And I think it is completely wrong and despicable that this woman is currently a political prisoner behind bars locked up she has been held on remand until sentencing in weeks and weeks time all to prove a point in slippery starmer's two-tier britain She is a childminder. She is a mother of three. And up until this situation, her rap sheet was completely clear. So what the government and what the justice system is trying

to do is make us all terrified to speak out on current events. Now, in a serenely honest interview, Raymond Connolly, who is a conservative councillor, and let's be honest, that is a big reason behind this politically motivated witch hunt against his wife, spoke out today outside court. Let's watch what he had to say. I'm kind of relieved, actually. It is all over. These last few months have been quite traumatic for Lucy and the children. The stuff I hear on the TV is not really Lucy, she's probably the opposite of what she's having to admit to,

but she knows that she's overstepped the mark and there's consequences for it. So hopefully she'll be able to learn from this and move on with her life. What has she said about it to you now, reflecting on, obviously, what happened and what she did? It's just a moment of, you know, an upset housewife, really, just seeing children in the reports with all the misinformation

and just got dragged into it. And obviously she obviously she regrets it she did a couple of hours after she'd put the link up but obviously came back on a week or so later and then obviously underneath it and her husband's a Tory councillor and here we are today. Does she accept that the tweet was racist? I don't think... She's not that... She is not that person.

I don't... I don't... I'm not too sure, really. I mean, all I know is she's not that person. She's probably the opposite to what... to that, actually. She really is. What's better than a well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue? A well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue She really is. Instacart has you covered. Download the Instacart app and enjoy $0 delivery fees on your first three

orders. Service fees, exclusions, and terms apply. Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. But she is the collateral damage in two-tier cares UK because he wants you, he wants me, to be scared about what we post on X. Now, the patriots of Britain have actually been protesting across the country, outside prisons, to try and raise awareness for what has been an issue completely ignored by the mainstream media, which is why I speak about these poor folk rotting behind bars for social media posts now. Because whether you agree with the posts or not, and I certainly don't, we just saw Julie Sweeney there. She's serving 15 months. There's a whole load of these wonderful people who made one mistake, one mistake.

Some of them posted a meme and they are locked up. I find that so despicable and so wrong. And the BBC today, the British Bashing Corporation, claimed that Lucy Connolly had called for asylum seekers' hotels to be set on fire. She didn't do that. She didn't do that. She said she didn't care if they were. Now, that is wrong. We all agree that is wrong. But how can this woman be locked up? How can this woman be jailed? When just two weeks ago we saw a child rapist set free. When we have seen pedophiles avoid jail. When we have seen people who have killed people on bikes given two-year suspended sentences when we have seen judges admit that they have to release murderers early to lock up lucy connelly the housewife the child minder of a conservative politician because of a feisty tweet on X. No, this is wrong.

Father Phil Harris, what do you make of it? Oh, so justice and mercy. This just really upsets me. And I think there's one sentence that I, just listening to her husband um in a moment of outrage and emotion i put posted words that i know were wrong in every way so that was that was um lucy speaking but the context to that is because we lost our own son any any children who get harmed, she will kick off. So here is a mother who lost her son. My problem is here that when this whole scenario happened,

there wasn't integrity and honesty of telling people exactly what had happened and so there was misinformation online this woman bless her in her pain of losing a child relive that in that moment and put something out that was wholly inappropriate. But it does not come anywhere near some of the crimes, the heinous crimes that have been committed by these people that are now going to be released. Now, that is not justice. And this is about an agenda to stop people speaking out but there's another piece here where she has been incarcerated until she pleaded guilty and and she's been locked up until she pleaded guilty and and and then she's still locked up when she has no danger to the public she has no danger to the public i am so upset here as you know as as a christian minister who just compassion where is compassion and decency you

know and yes she said something that was woeful but But this, our nation is better than this. Government should be better than this. We just should be better than this all the way round. And we've forgotten who we are. We have forgotten what decency looks like and what justice looks like and what mercy looks like. But what's happened to that Labour councillor who was inciting violence that's what and also remember manchester um there was that that guy who was set on a police woman and and he actually got let off well he hasn't he hasn't been charged yet nick lowes who spread false information well indeed and nick lowes from hope not hate who spread false information about an acid attack.

I was on his hit list, Nick Lowes, by the way. Yeah. And he hasn't been arrested at all. And by the way, that misinformation directly led to violence. There is absolutely no evidence that Lucy Connolly's post on X led to any violence at all. Now, that's not accepting, Andrea, but she's a mum of three. I mean, what would you have done if she was one of your constituents? Oh my gosh. Well, I'd be there fighting with her. But likely, you know, exactly what Reverend Phil said.

I'm a mum myself. You know, my little boy, Dan. I do. Lovely boy. I mean, what she must have gone through, the pain in life, and she's still going through she's suffered enough and then to lock her up when she's no danger to society it's in a bad place it's in a sad place this country and it breaks all of our hearts actually

so andrea do you think that just locking her up is that's all woeful and horrendous but to then release real criminals yes so that she can be locked up i know there is something so very very very wrong completely yeah very very this is i mean i actually um as you know dan i've been speaking out on this so-called far-right stuff um since the election um and i've got former constituents who are thanking me. You'll see on some of my posts on social media, thank you for speaking out, Andrea. We don't. We don't speak up about this because we're worried about our jobs,

our family, our livelihood. And that's a terrible place to be in society. And that's why I view Stama as an authoritarian well Andrew just speaking into that I'm having people coming to St James every week now because I spoke up and the message is very very simple you know the church hasn't spoken up people don't speak up for us and we cannot speak up. And I had someone in church on Sunday said, I can't speak out. I'm a head teacher. Dan, you need to set your own, sorry, Reverend Phil, you need to set your own podcast up, don't you think?

And actually tell weekly stories about this as a way to actually fight back on this. Like you said, common sense. You need to do that, Reverend Phil, because it's needed. And I think it's very powerful as a man of the cloth like yourself to do that, Reverend Phil, because it's needed. And I think it is very powerful as a man of the cloth like yourself to to do that. Yeah, I completely agree. I'm just heartbroken at the moment. I really am. You know, this is this. And I think the other part is that where they took the interview with her husband and with Councillor Raymondor Raymond and they said so is she racist and so everything is either far right racist or xenophobic and and that's you know and how

how dare someone ask it's just it's just wrong I mean as Daniel has been the same since 2016 anybody supported Brexit have been all labelled these words. And thick as mints, for example, you know, anybody who's far right is thick, the racist, the bigots. It's demonisation. Rather than actually common sense who love our country. Yeah, it is demonisation. It is a war on the working classes. It is a war on the honest, hardworking people who have made this country great. And it makes me so angry. And I look at these people and I feel so horrendous about the fact that they are locked up the Notting Hill Carnival resulting in two deaths. These two lovely souls killed because they attended the Notting Hill Carnival.

And the mother there on the left, I mean, utterly horrific. It was in front of her three-year-old daughter. The pain that she felt in those final days because of the way that she was attacked at the nonning hill carnival and over the weekend dame andrea we saw such weak condemnation i mean sadiq khan did not speak out on the violence until two people died he said nothing until the two people died same with Yvette Cooper shame on them absolutely absolutely this you know I was just looking before the show today Dan and just looking at this lovely woman and the circumstances of her death I was just sitting here going oh she had her whole life ahead of her didn't she?

Andrea exactly that, Dame Andrea exactly that and just gone and nobody just we've got the post of Lucy Connolly in clink and we've got all these horrible crimes

every day there's a stabbing and nobody is... And Sajid Khan has never, ever been able to control it. And why the heck did the public vote him back in? That's what I find quite outstanding. It's probably low turnout as it has been while we've got a Labour government at the moment. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's just the whole Notting Hill scenario. It was so depressing. So depressing. Well, look... I i'm sorry you go fatherful i was just gonna say the problem is dan again if we actually speak about notting hill because of the origins of notting hill you're thrown in as being racist again and and you know oh it's just this is just heartbreaking i mean look if this was any other event if this was any other event it would have been banned years ago. Let's be honest about it. But look, this is all quite depressing.

I appreciate that. But do you know what I think the antidote to this very often is? Comedy. We have to sometimes laugh at the surreal nature of what is going on in the UK. And I want to lift the spirits, too. So the brilliant Dapper laughs. I don't know if you've heard of this guy. He was a

really great comedian. He was thrown under the bus by the cancel culture mob. Woke ITV effectively ended his mainstream career. But he has now started to take on in such a brilliant way the madness in the UK at the moment, wrapping up loads of the issues we've been discussing today in the most hilarious way watch this in the life of an Englishman now picture this you're in London it costs more than you earn to live here so you slowly accumulate in debt you can't afford a holiday so you're addicted to drugs just to fucking escape your life the weather's shit the people that live here are even shitter and they hate each other with a passion and you can't afford to leave there's homeless people all over the place the shops are boarded up because of covid anyway you wake up one morning to find out your tax is going up

because labor's in and this is after you les the cost of living crisis energy prices interest rates have all eaten that last little bit of extra money you had left over each month from your wage and your outgoings so now you're proper fucked and while you're sat there on the toilet in the morning, reading tweets from the Metropolitan Police about online trolls and how they upset them, a SWAT team smashes through your bathroom window, straight past you on the shitter and goes into your 11 year old son's bedroom and arrests him for shouting at a police officer. Then your sister rings you. She's recently got fired from her job as a doctor for refusing to ask biological men if they're pregnant. And she tells you that your grandma's just frozen to death because Keir Starmer gave her winter allowance to a country on

the other side of the planet that's wealthier than us to help them with climate change. Oh yeah, it's all getting a little bit much anyway. And you think, you know what I'll do? I'll nip off for a pint to relax. Maybe I'll sit in the beer garden and have a fag but while you're doing that you get barred because that's illegal now so you decide you know what i'm going to do i'm going to go for a walk to clear my head morning and while you're on your walk clearing your head you get stabbed to death yes stabbed to death violently just walking around the city then the guardian plasters your face all over the news for randomly jumping on a perfectly good knife 54 times that was held by a choir boy then your sister's enraged by this so she tweets about it she gets nicked your son comes out of prison all right and he decides i'm

going to protest it because my dad's dead but this time he shouts at a police horse and he gets nicked for that but the prisons are too full so they they let out Ian Huntley to put him in. Now, the mad thing about this tale is it doesn't even sound far-fetched anymore, does it? It's perfectly believable. I'll tell you why. Because it's all based on true events. This is our story. And sometimes you have to laugh, don't you?

You just have to laugh. Dame Andrea Jenkins, the former Education Secretary, and Reverend Cannon, Father Phil Harris. What a fabulous superstar panel today. So appreciate you being here. Thank you. Now, coming up next in today's Uncancelled After Show,

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