Dan Wootton Outspoken - PRINCE WILLIAM STANDS UP TO KING DURING SUSSEX SUMMIT OVER PRINCE HARRY & MEGHAN MARKLE UK RETURN

Episode Date: August 21, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Bombshell polling reveals three quarters of Brits want to keep Prince Harry and Meghan Markle out of the UK as a furious Prince William stands up to his father King Charles during ...the most awkward of royal gatherings – dubbed the Sussex Summit – at Balmoral this week and demands no royal return whatsoever for the Duplicitous Duke and Fake Duchess. But the nightmare of this return, as Harry continues to ponce around in Washington DC as if he really is a beloved royal rather than a total pariah, becoming clear as a Head of Royal Protection reveals the British taxpayer is going to end up paying the £5 million security bill whether we like it or not. Dai Davies will reveal all on that bombshell live. And even today Harry and Meghan are back to their own ways, launching a ludicrous threat against the British media not to show the faces of their so-called children Archie and Lili. Of course, the Sussexes are now blaming departure on Donald Trump. The Americans, however, are celebrating, amid stunning new reports about how Meghan lobbied to succeed Kamala Harris. However, leftists in the UK intend to use the return to spark a new culture war, even invoking the death by suicide of Cambridge Univeristy Professor Jason Arday. We’ll debate it all today with our Superstar Panel: Reform UK star Russell Quirk and Lucy Connolly, the best-selling author of the book A Tweet Too Far. PLUS: Sly News is investigated by the Ofcommunists over its harassment of Nigel Farage’s daughter just as it launches a sick new attack on the Pink Ladies patriots who they are branding far right and supporters of ethnic cleansing. AND: Lucy Connolly opens up on one year of freedom and reflects on her imprisonment for sending a solitary post on X after the Southport Massacre. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle secures a job in the UK. But is her return to acting the real reason for the reversal of Megxit? Royal YouTube sensation According2Taz joins us with all the latest. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:36 Get deep insights on real-time market topics that may impact your investment portfolio. Listen to Fidelity Connects on Spotify today and power your next move tomorrow. No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Bilton. This is outspoken episode number 567. And breaking right now, bombshell polling reveals three quarters of Brits want to keep Prince Harry and Megan Markle out of the UK. as a furious Prince William stands up to his father, King Charles.
Starting point is 00:01:03 During the most awkward of royal gatherings today, it's the Sussex Summit at Belmoral Castle in Scotland. Right now, he is demanding no royal return whatsoever for the duplicitous Duke and fake Duchess. And boy, oh boy, it has been a bad day for that couple, a disastrous legal decision for Harry and his celebrity pals. they have been ordered to pay an initial 9.5 million pounds to the Daily Mail's publisher
Starting point is 00:01:34 after losing their failed hacking case. Now that is far higher than the 7.5 million pounds they wanted to pay. It suggests a massive bill. Not covered by insurance could well be coming next year. Remember, Associated want 34.5 million pounds. That leaves an 18 million pound shortfall that is largely not covered by insurance. So the nightmare of the Sussex's return, as Harry continues to ponds around in Washington, D.C. as if he is really a beloved royal rather than a total pariah, is becoming clear.
Starting point is 00:02:07 As a former head of royal protection reveals the British taxpayer may well have to end up paying a £5 million annual security bill whether we like it or not. So Di Davies will reveal all on that bombshell here live on outspoken very shortly. And even today, Harry and Megan are back to their own ways, launching a ludicrous threat about against the British media not to show the faces of their so-called children, Archie and Lily. Of course, Harry and Megan are now blaming their departure on Donald Trump. So I think they're both a bit unhappy in America or certainly in Donald Trump's America. They're not really enjoying living there at the moment and some of that sort of partisan media that you have on that side of the Atlantic. The clues have been there all along. You know, we saw earlier this year that Harry and Megan started to kind of scale down the size of their offices here,
Starting point is 00:03:07 the number of staff working for them in the US. We also saw them scale down their charitable foundation as well to operate on a different working model. The Americans, however, are celebrating amid stunning new reports about how Megan lobbied, you're not going to believe this, to succeed Carmelah Harris. Two important self-deportations that can unite all of America. This is the first thing we've been able to agree upon in over a decade. Megan and Harry are leaving. Praise Jesus.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Megan Markle and Prince Harry are moving back to the United Kingdom. I don't have any champagne to pop. I do have cigars that I could light this morning. This is obviously really great news for America. Congratulations, President Trump. Congratulations, my fellow Americans. But left us in the UK intend to use the return to spark a new culture war, even invoking the death by suicide of Cambridge University Professor Jason Rade.
Starting point is 00:04:04 The British press has profoundly let itself down with the hounding of Jason Rade, a reminder that it is never acceptable to single out an individual and hound them. And I would very much hope that at least for this initial part of their new start in Britain, the right-wing press particularly behave themselves. You had a bona fide war here, right? and a beautiful actress. It was kind of Prince Rania and Princess Grace territory. Of course, that was never going to overcome
Starting point is 00:04:34 some of the racist objections to Meghan Markle. I still wonder which member of the royal family it was that wondered aloud how dark the baby's skin would be. Grandfather dying of cancer and a grandson, and let's hope it's the grandson and his brother. Pick a line. The minute he said the word cancer, you were all softy, softy, oh yes, we understand this,
Starting point is 00:04:52 and now you're going for that. of you. Why is he coming back? Which is it? Okay, so we're going to debate it all today. Our superstar panel, Reform UK star, Russell Quirk, and Lucy Connolly, the best-selling author of the book, A Tweet Too Far. They are both here alongside the former head of Royal Protection, Di Davies. Also, coming up on today's show,
Starting point is 00:05:14 Sly News, investigated by the off-communists over its harassment of Nigel Farage's daughter, just as it launches a sick new attack on the Pink Ladies Patriots, who they are branding far right, and supporters of wait for it, ethnic cleansing. And Al Lucy opens up on one year of freedom as she reflects on her imprisonment for sending a solitary post on X after the Southport massacre.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Then much more on the Royal Uncanceled After Show on sub-state. Megan Markle has secured a job in the UK, believe it or not. But is her return to Actine the real reason for the reversal of exit, Royal YouTube sensation, according to Taz here on that? We're also going to reveal the worst Britain in the world this week, Megan Markle is nominated. She's not really a Brit though, is she? But anyway, that's where we've got to this week. She's up alongside our other union jackasses from across the week on Monday. It was Edwina Curry. Tuesday, Diane Abbott, Wednesday, Zach Polanski. I will bring
Starting point is 00:06:07 your feedback at the end of the show too. But now, let's go. So today, at the so-called Sussex summit in Belmoral, Prince William has secured a promise from King Charles that Prince Harry and Megan Markle will not officially return as working royals. But I don't blame the heir to the throne to be concerned about what's really going on here, especially as Brits are now almost certain to be asked to fund an insane $5 million security bill annually as the duplicitous Duke and fake Duchess almost immediately start their old games with the British press. Yes, Gido Forks has revealed in the past few hours that they are intending to keep their
Starting point is 00:06:54 money shot of the so-called children Archie and Lily protected, issuing a letter from the press regulator Ipso to newspaper editors. It reads in part, private and confidential, not for publication. Whoops, I'm not part of any regulator. Ipso has today been contacted by a representative acting on behalf of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Editors will be aware that the Duke and Duchess are relocating to the UK along with their two young children. It is the Duke and Duchess's wish that their children are able to grow up and enjoy their schooling and childhood safely and free of unnecessary intrusion and scrutiny. The family are aware that news outlets will wish to cover their return. However, they have significant privacy and security concerns regarding the potential reporting of the family's
Starting point is 00:07:34 residents and the school to be attended by the children. They therefore request that editors do not publish any information identifying the location of their home or that could lead members of the public to identify their home given the likelihood that this would lead to the intrusion into their children's privacy. For that same reason, they ask that the children's school is not identified. But in other words, right, they are saving the big reveal themselves for Instagram or a commercial deal. I think it's nuts. I'm sorry, I know no one in the mainstream media is going to say this. But this is a couple now returning to this country with two children who are in the line of succession,
Starting point is 00:08:06 a prince and princess. They still have those titles. Yet they don't believe we, the British public, have a right to actually see them. Also nuts as this, Prince Harry, poncing around in Washington, D.C. overnight, making a completely inappropriate dig. about Donald Trump, declaring that world leaders need less testosterone. We know who you're talking about, Harry. You're not smart.
Starting point is 00:08:27 No wonder the Americans are celebrating. Indeed, Megan Kelly has said the departure of Harry and Megan is the first issue that has actually united Americans in 10 years. Today, two important self-deportations that can unite all of America. This is the first thing we've been able to agree upon in over a decade. Megan and Harry are leaving. Praise Jesus. They're going. Get back to the UK. Go become somebody else's problem. We're sick of you. We have enough weirdos, self-narcissistic, obsessed Americans already. The country's full. It's saturated. Go home, Harry. We never wanted you here to begin with.
Starting point is 00:09:14 If we had to have one of the kids of Prince Charles, Ben, Prince Charles, we all wanted William. No one wanted you. Michael Knowles of the Daily Wire actually praised Donald Trump for this while sending his condolences to King Charles. Megan Markle and Prince Harry are moving back to the United Kingdom. I don't have any champagne to pop. I do have cigars that I could light this morning. This is obviously really great news for America. Congratulations, President Trump.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Congratulations, my fellow Americans. We are finally ridding ourselves of the Markel's. Mr. and Mrs. Markle, the artist formerly known as Prince Harry, now Mr. Megan Markle. They left the royal family, what was it, three years ago now, in order to move to America and become TV stars. And now they're moving back to the UK because that's all dried up. I do feel for His Majesty, King Charles. my, I send my condolences. As Wall Street, Mav put it, the only thing that made them famous was being part of the royal family.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Nobody is paying them anymore for books, TV or candles. Harry and Megan are completely running out of money. They are hoping Daddy King Charles will fund their lifestyle again. And after this damning court decision today, which doesn't cap the legal cost that Prince Harry has to pay back to the Daily Mail, he could be facing a massive bill. Of course, Harry and Megan are finally. writing that narrative, though, propagandists for the Sussex's Chris ship of woke ITV has actually gone on air and specifically blamed Donald Trump. So I think they're both a bit unhappy in America or certainly in Donald Trump's America. They're not really enjoying living there at the moment and some of that sort of partisan media that you have on that side of the Atlantic.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And that's all come together. I think this probably, and this will I'm sure probably come out in due course, So probably a specific reason why they are moving. But from here, the kids will go to school. Harry will keep doing what he does, and it means he can do more of those things in the UK, of course. And then Megan will just continue with her brand, the as-ever brand that she's been growing from home in California.
Starting point is 00:11:28 She just thinks she can do that from here. The big question, of course, is what they do about security and the ongoing arguments about security. That's a huge issue. Still as yet unresolved, I'm told there are some kind of moving parts at the moment. But what will probably change that landscape when it comes to the decision on security is the fact that they will be residents here in the UK. And that might mean the Home Office Committee that looks at these things will have to make a different kind of assessment of the threat against Harry and Megan if they are to be permanently resident in the UK, or at least for the next year or two. Do you notice he's just pushing this line, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:12:03 They just have to get their security paid for by us. That's why this is going to become a massive political hot potato because we don't want to pay $5 million. pounds a year as Dai Davies predicts for these grifters who thinks we're racist and who have spent years slagging off the British royal family and the UK itself. I believe Andy Burnham is soon going to discover the new Prime Minister that it's not a private matter either. With a bombshell you-gov poll, sampling more than 5,000 people are varying ages today, finding that just 21% of the public believe Harry and Megan should return to Britain, 33% said they should not. Those figures are only exacerbated when focus is put on the answers of those aged 65.
Starting point is 00:12:41 or older with just 20% of the belief that Harry and Megan should relocate to the UK. So that's why what you're seeing is the Royal Rota, the sort of official mouthpieces of the royal family pushing the line that Harry and Megan will not return to royal duties. But listen carefully, because they simultaneously have to admit that they will be seen at royal events. What do Royal events mean? Christmas and Easter, for example. I do not see a world in which Harry and Megan resume official working duties.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Whether or not we see them more in public life, and we undoubtedly will, will we start to see them at some family occasions, possibly. But I don't think you will see them back on, you know, sovereign grant-funded overseas tours on behalf of the government. I think if that was to happen, I think, you know, William would have a strong view on that. And I don't think there's much appetite from the King for either. we keep being told there isn't. Okay, so that is why this week's Sussex Summit happening right now at Balmoral Castle attended by most senior royals,
Starting point is 00:13:43 Prince William is there, Princess Anne is there, the Tindles are there, Edward is there, Sophie is there, is becoming so significant. William and Catherine, the Princess of Wales have put their foot down. They say they want no part in the Harry and Meghan drama. Good on them.
Starting point is 00:13:58 This briefing to their close ally in the Royal Rota, Russell Myers of the Daily Mirror, who reported today, Prince William is adamant. there can be no way back for Harry and Megan. Friends of the couple saying, while they cannot forgive the Sussexes, they cannot forgive the Sussexes,
Starting point is 00:14:14 I'll repeat that, I think that's great. They are determined to look forward to the future. Yeah, a future without them. So this is what the source close to William and Catherine saying today. Obviously, the Sussex's return will make inevitable headlines for a few days, but it has no bearing on the Prince and Princess's life moving forward. If anything, events that have affected them over the past couple of years, have made them even more determined to concentrate on what is important to them, their family,
Starting point is 00:14:39 their public roles and the ability to provide generational change for good with their public roles and look forward to the future. Another source close to the Wales is adding what Harry and Megan choose to do is up to them. As far as William and Catherine are concerned, they have left that period of their lives behind them many years ago. While they simply cannot forgive everything that has been against them and the family, they do not have time or the energy, for any negativity or the drama that the Sussexes surround themselves with. God, this is damning, isn't it? So true.
Starting point is 00:15:10 As they have demonstrated with their public roles, everything they are trying to do, this is William and Catherine, of course, is about positivity and making the world a better place as far as they can. Another royal source referring to Catherine's cancer battle said during that time of considerable uncertainty for the family, while there were some musterings that Harry was prepared to come back to the UK on a temporary basis to help out, given he had spent the previous four years railing against the institution. No one deemed his assistant was worthwhile, and nothing has changed now.
Starting point is 00:15:40 The mirror then confirming what I have long reported, William has not spoken in person to his brother since the late Queen Elizabeth II's funeral. That was in September 2022, and they have not been in contact either on the phone or via text message for at least two and a half years. Longtime King Charles reporter Robert Jobson predicts and says, though, that the worst is yet to come. he is calling this regret sit and says, but surely before Harry and Meg's, get out the party streamers and welcome home banners for themselves, Harry owes his poor parra very public apology.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Not a phone call, not a private word over to it high grove, public said where the country that mourned Elizabeth II can hear it. I mean, I think we all deserve a public apology, don't you? But you know what Harry is doing? He's actually briefing the Daily Telegraph, not that he will apologise, but just that he intends to shut up. Okay, let's see how long that lasts, mate, given he's already talking about the testosterone of political leaders in Washington, D.C. This is the reporting from Victoria Ward, who they first briefed their return to.
Starting point is 00:16:39 The Duke of Sussex hopes to regain the King's Trust by no longer talking about private family matters in public. If only he'd realised that five years ago. He's committed. She reports to reconciliation and rebuilding relationships. But then the kicker, and this refers to what I was saying earlier, it is further understood that the Duke and Duchess plan not to expose their children to the public eye. There will be no photographs released of Archie and Lilibate on their first day at their new UK school in September and no portraits released on their birthday. Oh, this is mad, isn't it? This is all completely mad. And then we come to the political dimension of this. And what you're seeing is the worst people in Britain. You know who I'm talking about the race baiters, the hard leftists, who intend to
Starting point is 00:17:22 ignore the 79% of us who actually don't want these two back. And I'm going to use this to spark a cultural war instead. Sorry, warning, but I've got to show you James O'Brien, ludicrously suggesting that Harry and Meghan were once more popular than William and Catherine, this is the line that he's going with, until the racist British press got in the way. Is it even possible that they could return to the days when they were more popular than William and Kate? They were just more natural. They were just more before the guns of the British media parked
Starting point is 00:18:04 upon their lawn, they were pretty much the dream ticket. You had a bona fide war hero and a beautiful actress. It was kind of Prince Rania and Princess Grace territory. Of course, that was never going to
Starting point is 00:18:21 overcome some of the racist objections to Megan Markle. I still wonder which member of the royal family it was that wondered aloud how dark the baby's skin would be, but I suspect it's possibly one who isn't a member of the royal family anymore. Well, no, actually, James O'Brien, it wasn't Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, actually. The point is no racist comment was made, you deluded full. The accusation was about Princess Catherine and King Charles. Are you going to go on radio and call them racist? Because even your hero, Prince Harry, you might remember, had to walk back that lie
Starting point is 00:18:54 in an interview with Tom Bradby where he said, oh no, it wasn't racist. it was just unconscious bias. But look, this man O'Brien, completely out of touch with Brits, he has been totally sucked in by Harry. I mean, I might sound a little bit, I don't know, naive. Might sound as if I'm angling for a gong in the event of him ever ending up on the throne,
Starting point is 00:19:14 which, let's face it, is impossible. But I'm not. I'm just trying to work out what I see in front of me. And I see a man born with influence, who feels a deep sense of responsibility to using that influence for good. I mean, Harry is here for the money, Mr O'Brien. That is it.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Over on G.B. News, there was another explosive fallout this time between Prince Harry's friend, Archie Manor, and the Labour commentator Matthew Laza. A grandfather dying of cancer and a grandson, and let's hope it's a grandson and his brother. We don't know. If you look at the front page of the Metro,
Starting point is 00:19:53 which has got a nice box at the bottom, which says from the repair shop to Dragon's Den, what's next for Meg and Harry? Maybe they've come back because the Netflix contract has run out. They can't afford life in Montecito. Pick a line. The minute he said the word cancer, you were all softy, softy, oh yes, we understand this, and now you're going for that. Pick a view.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Why is he coming back? Which is it? My personal view would be on the basis that he hasn't been that bothered about for the last few years. I tell you what, though, he's not. He's come back because they've run out of cash in California. But he's not. We've just heard that made tens of millions and that they're avoiding tax.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Pick an excuse, lads. If he has no cash, then he's not coming back for Carible Gaines Tags. The Netflix series bombed. The Spotify contract had to be, had to be, because nobody wanted to listen to it. So they may have got an advance. You know exactly how the media works. It's not going to carry on forever.
Starting point is 00:20:43 It was running out. The gravy train on the back of the British, I mean, it isn't going to be. I mean, of course, the money is a huge part of it, but what the mainstream media won't report, But what I have been reporting here on outspoken now for months and months and months is that this is a deeply unhappy marriage. And I've got the Sussex squad back. Okay, so we saw Niemishikov yesterday.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Today, it is the Michael Jackson inspired Omid Scobie. Seriously, guys, look at this guy. I think he needs to relocate back to the UK, actually, with his idols too, in order to step away from the Alley Cosmetic Surgeon's Knife. Watch. Did this news surprise you like it surprised the rest of us? You know, I think if you've been watching the story really closely, the clues have been there all along. You know, we saw earlier this year that Harry and Megan started to kind of scale down the size of their offices here, the number of staff working for them in the US. We also saw them scale down their charitable foundation as well to operate on a different working model.
Starting point is 00:21:46 And so you can see then that along the way, this is a couple that have been slowly and methodically kind of planning some form of move, Either it's the version that was announced yesterday, only they know. But this is definitely a couple that have been looking to make changes for sure. Oh, certainly interesting. But actually, you know, the worst people are the leftist race-baiting Harry and Megan supporters. And it's disgusting what they're trying to do. I'm going to show you, but I'm furious about it. Channel 4 News let Tessa Dunlop.
Starting point is 00:22:21 And she did it on News night too, but I'll show you on Channel 4 News, try and shut down British coverage of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's return very clearly in the public interest, right, by invoking the death by suicide of the fantasist Cambridge University Professor Jason Ardey. How do you think this is going to actually play out? I think in the last month, the British press has profoundly let itself down with the hounding of Jason Rdae, a reminder that it is never acceptable to single out an individual and hound them. And I would very much hope that at least for this initial point, part of their new start in Britain.
Starting point is 00:22:56 The right-wing press particularly behave themselves. Tassad Donald up, Valentine Lowe, thank you both very much. Thank you. It's sick. It's twisted. But this is the new attack line, left as Horace Sankita Miska, writing, The Swivel-Eyed Loons and the right-wing media have learned nothing from Jason R. Day's death. All it's taken is for Harry and Megan to say they're returning to the UK,
Starting point is 00:23:18 which they have every right to do and they've begun sharpening their knives ready to monetise hate. As you know, I believe the UK should eventually evolve away from monarchy, the institution, but while it exists, could we please remember the members of it are human? But as Mayor Cachia put it correctly, summing up the problems of our divided kingdom under Labour and Charles III, Megan and Harry's decision shows the UK continues in its unparalleled ability to attract the worst people to its shores, while simultaneously driving away the people it should really be trying to keep. And as I say, all of this is about money because the devastating costs decision in Prince Harry's court case today against the Daily Mail are complicated, but I'm just going to sum it up very quickly for you. They knew they were going to have to pay a significant amount of costs. They wanted to pay $7.5 million this month.
Starting point is 00:24:08 The judge said, no for now, you pay $9.5 million. But, but, and this is the big but, your total bill is uncapped, which means it could be as high as what the daily bill. Mail is asking for 34.5 million pounds. The real issue is Harry and his team, Elton John, Doring, Lawrence, that whole mob, are only covered to the tune of 16 million pounds. Harry could be facing a bill this time next year of millions and millions of pounds. And the Daily Mail are celebrating today. Let me show you what Paul Dacre's newspaper group has said of this decision. Writing the judgment is a devastating critique of an attempt to destroy a newspaper and the reputation of its journalist, editors and executives. From well before the trial started, the claimant's lawyers knew that their main witness, by the way, the claimant's lawyer, that's Prince Harry's
Starting point is 00:24:59 lawyers. So Prince Harry knew that their main witness had denied making the preposterous allegations on which the claims were based. Despite this collapse and evidence to support the extremely serious allegations of abhorrent criminal activity crimes and terrible and reprehensible COVID acts by the mail, they were emblazing. in a lurid press release issued on behalf of Baroness Lawrence, Prince Harry, and the other claimants with the exception of Sir Simon Hughes. The allegations were not withdrawn and were pursued until the bitter end of the trial. This placed a huge burden on the mail to defend the reputation of its innocent journalist and the paper itself. The truth is that these outrageous claims should never have been
Starting point is 00:25:36 brought that they were pursued raises disturbing questions about the conduct of elements of the legal profession. And what I will say, it also raises serious questions about the conduct of Prince Harry. Remember, I know a lot about this too. He also teamed up with byline times just like he did against the Daily Mail to try and destroy me as well. So we know what he's doing and we don't want him back and we certainly don't want to pay five million pounds a year to protect him. Now, the former head of Royal Protection, Di Davies, alongside our superstar panel, Lucy Connolly and Russell Quirk. So Di Davies, this five million pound figure on the front page of the Daily Mail today, you say very realistic. And I also, can I just ask you, how on earth can our
Starting point is 00:26:28 Prime Minister get away saying this is a private matter? If we are going to be funding Prince Harry's security, surely it's anything but private. Well, good afternoon and hello everybody else. Lucy and Russell, nice to say hello to you. Hi. Yes, well, that's the top end of the estimate when I was asked yesterday, Ashley Debb said three to five. But quite easily, if you remember that an armoured car now, a BMW or a Mercedes or any of these top end will cost you nearly half a million pounds to have what's known as a B7, in other words, it will protect you from most attacks by a gun, explosion and all rest of it. So presumably, as they're so paranoid about their safety, they will have to go and take the children to school in these armoured cars to and from.
Starting point is 00:27:21 So that's a million before you've started. Now the house they apparently are going to live in, I presume it hasn't had the kind of infrastructure that we will put into a Royal Protection House. In terms of technical support, that can cost you several million pounds before you start. Because you have to have cameras, you have to have infrared lights, You have to have alternative communication. You have to have a safe room and they can go up to a million pounds quite easily. So there are so many costs that will have to be made in terms of just making the house secure.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Because if you look at history as I have of attacks on the British royal family and European royals and indeed American presidents, a great deal of them actually take place actually in where they live. So that's crucial. That's a foundation that you have. have to spend before you start in one sense. And certainly, I will say planning and preparing is key. It's arguably the most important aspect of keeping anyone safe. Forget the James Bond type things. The main thing to do is to prepare and you've got to, when you start preparing, know what's the itinerary of those you are protecting. In other words, what are they going to do here? What is their
Starting point is 00:28:39 role here? Is it to set up a quasi-royal camp in alternative aspects? Yes, it is. I'll answer that, Di. Yes, it is. Well, a little bit like Edward the 8th. None of us were around in 1937. Possibly I'm the closest,
Starting point is 00:28:55 but what I'm trying to say is David, we're just slightly losing you. And he was told in no uncertain terms, no, clear off, we don't want you here. Yes. Which I think is what should happen here.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Yeah, well, some would say that. Di, can I just ask a question? So the costs, before you start on the PPO's, and the top ones are on about 150,000 plus, they have to have accommodation, they have to have their national insurance paid for, their pensions contribution. So you're talking a package of huge amounts just for the people.
Starting point is 00:29:38 So you can quite easily see how you can get to at least three, four, five million pounds and possibly more. So that's, these are questions that need to be asked. But fundamentally, my view is for somebody who's so paranoid until recently about their protection, this is a very strange way about it. They release it to their favoured media outlets. There isn't a structured. We're doing this because of X, Y and Z. We're doing it because we want to do more charity work or we want to do this. What on earth are they going to do all day long in a soggy wet winter in that part of the world so there are so many questions with great respect to all these experts that we're hearing from and thousands of words written
Starting point is 00:30:23 very few people have got down to the basics is it more likely it's some kind of conspiracy as it were i'm coming and you lot a better drop everything because i'm so important i deserve it a bit that my brother's getting it his children are getting it. Well, my is valuable. They're human as well. And I want it. And I'm going to force the hand of the British government. Now with respect to the Prime Minister,
Starting point is 00:30:51 he's new in the job. I doubt very much if he knows a great deal until very recently about protection and protecting of Royals. So I think his response may have been off the cuff. I don't think it was particularly well made in that sense. I think he should have said,
Starting point is 00:31:07 we wait to see what an earth they're going to do here. So that's my view and all of this and as you know for many many years I've said he doesn't deserve protection until there are security services and those equipped to actually give a proper definition is he now more at risk because he's coming here well that remains to be seen I don't know most people don't know but there is an element of risk in this place is an element of risk because he's made it that way by his nonsense speak by his continuing requirement for publicity, almost on a weekly, daily basis, the two of them, for people who are purported to
Starting point is 00:31:47 be so worried about security, boy, who the hell advises them? As I've said before, it must be the same people who advise their uncle Andrew, because, in my opinion, they're totally off the scale of nonsenses. And frankly, I think most of us are fed up to the teeth of hearing about the pair of them. I wish they go somewhere, but don't come here. Certainly don't come to Wales where I live, because we don't want you. Amen. Amen. Oh my good. I couldn't agree more. Di Dye Davies, former head of Royal Protection. Thank you so much for that fascinating insight. And I completely agree with what he's saying, by the way, this is a conspiracy. Harry is engaging in a conspiracy. That is so disturbing and it has to be called out.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Russell Quirk, can we talk about this cost's decision today, though? Because this This also really does paint a whole load of the picture behind the return to the United Kingdom, right? Because if Harry is going to be on the hook this time next year, Russell, potentially for 10 million pounds. I mean, remember he has said that he will also pay Doreen Lawrence's costs. He said she will not have to pay anything. And you're talking about a potential 34.5 million pound total. He can't afford private security to the tune of $3 million a year in America. So this costs decision today. Obviously, it's just a 9.5 million pound payment initially.
Starting point is 00:33:18 But Russell, it is a devastating decision for him at a time when the money is running out anyway. But yes, it is devastating, damn. But of course, you know, the choices have been Harry and Megans, haven't they? So the choice to live in the US, the choice to no longer be working royals and therefore not to be afforded public money. thrown at their security. And of course, his desire, his wish to go after various journalists and media outlets from a legal perspective. And look, if you roll that dice, you know exactly what the implications are if you lose. So I don't think anyone should have any sympathy for Harry and Megan at all in terms of, you know, what is effective from Harry's point of view, just this relentless pursuit of vengeance because he believes that the media killed his mum.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Now, I have sympathy for that, but I'm afraid if you're going to run the gauntlet against the might of KCs and lawyers that work for the Daily Mail Group, well, then you may well come off badly. And of course, he has, and now he must take that on the chin, mustn't he? I go a little bit further, though, in terms of this conspiracy theory, and I'm not a massive conspiracy theorist. You know, you won't see me talking about kind of, you know, Bilderberg group and, you know, politicians that are really lizards and UFOs and so on. That's not really my bag, Dan. However, we should, and I'm sure you'll want to investigate this, we should look at what the
Starting point is 00:34:45 Heartland Institute are doing in terms of his visa application whereby he sought and received a visa to live in the United States. And of course, you'll remember the two or three years ago. There were significant shenanagan, shall we say, around whether he was honest on that visa application form around his drug use. Of course, in spare, that ridiculous book available for 50p in all good bargain bins at poor bookshops. He said specifically that he was a user of hallucinogenic drugs, cannabis and class A drugs, cocaine, we think. However, if you were to put that, of course, on your visa application form to go and live in the United States, the chances are that you would be refused a visa. But he was granted a visa. So the question rises as to whether
Starting point is 00:35:31 it was either waived in terms of him being honest and the US government deciding to allow. him in anyway? Or did he lie? Now, the Heartland Institute have put forward a whole bunch of FOIs and they've hit a brick wall until a little while ago they decided to FOI, not the application form itself, but actually the documentation, the messages, the communications between various members of the State Department and, as I understand it, Harry's team. Now, they apparently are much more available, much more likely to be granted visibility by. a US judge. And apparently there's a deadline on this, which is somewhere around the middle of October in terms of when that decision is going to be made in terms of that disclosure. I would venture,
Starting point is 00:36:16 perhaps Dan, it's not a coincidence that Harry has made the very surprising decision, given that he hates Britain and he thinks we're all racist and it's a dangerous place to bring his kids up. Maybe he's on the run from the US, because perhaps I venture, I'm speculating, maybe he is about to be caught out in terms of his visa application. And maybe ICE, may well otherwise be knocking at his door and deporting him for real. Well, Lady Colin Campbell does believe that there was the threat of a potential arrest by the feds. And this is one of the reasons he ran.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Lucy, I want to ask you about how the left in this country, because you know all about this, right? You know all about how they will hunt down a target on the right. And what we're now seeing after the tragic death by suicide of Jason R. Day, who I do not shy away from the fact, was a plagiarist, a fantasist, you know, a guy who absolutely needed to be scrutinized and covered by the media. But they're now trying to use that case, Lucy Connolly, to shut down us having a discussion about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's return. And the fact we're going to have to pay all of these security costs. Now, I put it to you that, for, for a long time, you were one of the most hated and hunted figures by these exact same people in the United Kingdom who seemed to want you dead, Lucy, who didn't have any sympathy about the fact that you were locked up for a year for a singular post on X. How do you feel when you see people like Tessa Dunlop and Sangita Miska now invoking Jason Ardei to shut down
Starting point is 00:37:58 any, I think, legitimate criticism or coverage of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle? They are absolutely moronic, aren't they? At the end of the day, when it comes to Prince Harry, if he didn't want everyone to know he was coming back and have an opinion on it, why make such a big announcement and have a secret 10pm telegraph podcast where, you know, I was actually really excited, like they were going to announce a general election or something.
Starting point is 00:38:21 And then, you know, imagine my disappointment. It was like Harry and Meghan are coming back, you know. But, yeah, I mean, they're off there rockers, aren't they, the left? I mean, it's one rule for them, another for another. Look, Dan, I think it's terribly sad that Jason has taken his life. He's sad for his family. Of course. I think it's horrific that he, you know, he felt that he didn't have any option but to do that.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And we don't celebrate, by the way, on our side of politics. We don't celebrate deaths about political opponents. No, I have not seen anybody hard, you know, or not have any sympathy for the fact that he has taken his life. But equally, let's not pretend like he was some saint. and, you know, some good guy, he wasn't. He was a fraud and a liar. And they are one of the two worst things you can be in life, to be honest, aren't they? So yes, it's terribly sad and it's awful. And yes, the mainstream media and, you know, different sides of me to do hound people. I've been hounded for a year by these people. The likes of Dan Hodges, the likes of Nirindicor, the likes of Femi, actively tell me that while I'm supporting reform, they will hound me. They're not going to let it go. But, you know, I'm with Katie Hopkins, you know, I'm sure you've all seen that video that she did me about, you know, and it was resonated so much with me because that is exactly how I feel. I know that I'm not a racist. I know that I'm a good person. So actually, it doesn't matter what these dickheads on Twitter say about me or, you know, these self-righteous morons that are standing in the street with placards saying the reason he's dead is because of racism, but we're celebrating the death of Anne Whedickham two weeks before. Well, yeah, do you know, Russell, one of those people who actually celebrated the death of Anne Whitaker, and she hasn't apologised, is this Nasser called Super Tansky, who's part of all of that crowd. Yeah, awful.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Byline times, Carol Vortem and the whole lot. And again, she's desperate to link these two stories, Russell. She's posted today, if Harry and Megan thought it was bad before, they've not seen anything yet, since they left, national front parties are polling high. She's talking about Restore Britain there. MPs who espouse Nazi rhetoric are elected to Parliament. Presume she's talking about Rupert, and the mainstream media is now digitally lynching black people, I fear for them. So it's like, Russell, they are the ones who are trying to use a tragic death to spark, not just a culture war, Russell, I'm going to say it, to spark a race war. And Megan Markle is like a sort of helpful prop for them. Yeah, I mean, it's ironic, isn't it, that the left always say that it's the right, the likes of reform, for instance, that are the ones that promote division. and so do the likes of Dan Wooten and Mike Graham and G.B. News and so on. But it's always the left
Starting point is 00:41:05 that seek to weaponise everything that they possibly can that might have a slither of race attached to it. You know, every time pretty much that I'm on one show or another, and the subject is asylum seekers and asylum seekers that rape people and so on. And then there's some kind of social media chatter about it. I'm always labelled a racist. I mean, probably even as much, if not more than Lucy is. You know, I'm labelled as a perpetual racist because I dare to talk about the fact that Afghan men, for instance, have a much high propensity to rape women and girls in this country than British nationals. Now I've said that. Apparently, that's racist, even though it happens to be a matter of actual fact. Yeah, look, it's a very lazy slur, isn't it, that in the old days,
Starting point is 00:41:52 you could label someone as a racist, and that would shut down the argument. And you'd kind of win it. That would be your knockout blow as someone arguing with somebody else across the desk or across the aisle. But now, of course, for those of us, as Lucy rightly says, on the centre right, the sensible right, that are not extreme, that are not racist, but we just want to protect and improve and rescue our country. And now it kind of just bounces off us. I think we're teflon to these stupid. Because they've overused them exactly to such a point where they become meaning us. Look, I do just have to share with you one of the funniest stories, though, because you know Harry and Megan are now trying to say, say, oh, you know, we never really wanted to wade into American politics, or the New York Post
Starting point is 00:42:32 have just revealed exactly how far they went in order to do so. In order to do so. And it does just show you, I think, how much their stock has fallen over the past few years. So this is their exclusive reporting. Delusional Prince Harry and Meghan Markle sought US political clout far beyond dreams of any royal since King George III, the Post has learned. With the Duchess of Sussex, angling to take over the Senate seat held by Kamala Harris ahead of the 2020 presidential election. Weeks before Democrat Joe Biden's went over President Donald Trump, a source says Michael requested a sit down with California Governor Gavin Yusin
Starting point is 00:43:10 because she wanted to be considered to be appointed to the seat held by Harris, which she vacated just before becoming vice president on January the 20th, 2021. The source added that the discussion was publicly described as a welcome to California chat to head off potential inquiries. then we moved to late 2021 and both Harry and Megan requested an Oval Office meeting with Joe Biden as well as accommodation at nearby Blair House
Starting point is 00:43:35 that is a perk reserved for foreign leaders on state visits multiple sources say White House staff quickly rejected the idea with one source noting the spectacle of Harry and Megan sitting down with the leader of the free world would have caused a major diplomatic kerfuffle with No. 10 Downing Street and the British Royal Family another source of former Biden aid said the president
Starting point is 00:43:54 and First Lady Jill Biden, long-standing admirers of Queen Elizabeth II, didn't want to get into a family squabble by hosting the rogue royals. Ultimately, the couple's attempt to become kingmakers fizzled out, similar to their ambitions in Hollywood in the lifestyle space. Harry and Megan even wore out their welcome with the Biden administration sources say, despite the first couple's personal sympathy for the prince following the loss of his mother, Princess Diana, in a 1997 car crash. Joe Biden's first wife, Nalia, an infant daughter, Naomi, were killed in a 1972 very. vehicle wreck that also injured the couple's two sons, Bo and Hunter. Jill Biden, meanwhile, had been irregular at the Invictus Games, the sporting event for wounded
Starting point is 00:44:31 veterans founded by Harry in 2014, but she ultimately stopped attending the games after she became First Lady in January 2021 due once again to the optics surrounding Harry's departure from the UK. So Russell, they can say whatever they want about why they're returning to the UK and what it is really about. But as this proves, their ambitions in America were huge. were huge. I mean, Megan Markle literally thought that she was going to walk in and become the US senator for California. And my reporting, remember, at the time, is that ultimately she did believe that that would lead to a White House run. So, I mean, their grand plans have collapsed. Yeah, unfortunately, their ambitions were somewhat outweighing their ability, right? So, you know, it's all very well being ambitious, but you have to kind of match that with capability. And I think where Harry Meg are concerned, that ability certainly for short. And I think whether it's the world of showbiz and entertainment, you know, continuing to be a kind of, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:32 be a, be-list actress on an irrelevant show watched by nine people on, you know, whatever some sub-HBO channel somewhere, or indeed political ambitions, or really just being the glitterity of California on the basis that, of course, Harry is a royal gentry. I mean, all of that fell flat. That ran out of steam very, very quickly. The Netflix thing ran out of steam. thing ran out of steam. You know, I think where they had these huge ambitions on the basis of, I guess, the reputation that carried them over to the United States off the back of the royal family's
Starting point is 00:46:05 name and so on. And maybe Megan naively thinking that her appearance on a couple of crappy movies and that suits program would, again, carry them to kind of long-term fame and fortune. It's fizzled out, hasn't it? And now they've got to find a new grift. And maybe, and again, being a bit cynical. you know, we would be forgiven for thinking that there is a master plan when it comes to coming back. Maybe they're on the run from ice, who knows.
Starting point is 00:46:32 But it might just be, might just be that there is some other kind of showbiz opportunity that they believe is there by way of a reconciliation with King Charles or maybe William and so on. You can't help but think that this is about money, fame and fortune rather than there being any genuine kind of wish. It didn't work. It didn't work in Hollywood. I think you're completely right, Russell. And actually, apparently Tina Brown reporting today that Megan Markle does have a job, an entertainment job lined up. I mean, what, are we going to see her in the Vic? Any standers in the Rover's return?
Starting point is 00:47:11 I mean, Lucy, that's sort of all she's capable of, right? Like, as an actress. Got a Butlin's red coat job. Do you imagine? You know, like, it just, the whole situation is really funny because I could not give a flying fig about Megan or Harry. I really couldn't. And, you know, going back to that super skankskill, whatever her name is,
Starting point is 00:47:34 you know, the very thought that she's, you know, suggested that, you know, she's talking about like the likes of Russell and I, you know, national front nonsense. She is absolutely referring to people like him and I. You know, the thought that we'd actually give a shit about what Megan and Harry are doing or saying because, you know, we haven't got bigger things to worry about in our lives. in our country, have we, then what Megan's doing next, whether she's going to appear in the Queen Vic or, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:58 or the rovers. Who gives us shit? Not me. Very well put. Okay. Well, I've been told I better move on to the more important news of the day. Breaking today, off-com. The off-communists are remarkably launching an investigation into sly news
Starting point is 00:48:18 for its harassment of Nigel Farage. daughter. Now, this was a surprise, wasn't it, given that the off-communists are quite literally run. I'm not exaggerating here, quite literally run by the former bosses of Sly News. But Nigel Farage, responding to this, saying, I have been appalled at the way various members of my family have been treated. But it is in this context that I tell you that Sly News, the most irresponsible news broadcaster in the country are attempting to demonize you. Demonize me, demonize us. Patriots as either far right or racist. And he has done so in the most despicable manner and I'm disgusted by Tom Cheshire of Sinews who should be embarrassed for what he has done today because he has turned something
Starting point is 00:49:13 very beautiful in the pink ladies. You know how much I support the pink ladies. You know how much I support the pink ladies, this beautiful decentralized group of female patriots who over last summer was able to effectively get the migrant hotels shut down after that terrible sex attack by the migrant outside the Bell Hotel in Epin Essex. These are wonderful women. And what Tom Cheshire has spent months and months working on, and I'm going to show you, you can be the judge as to whether he's been successful or not. I think he's failed. But what he has attempted to do is turn this beautiful pink ladies movement into something sinister. Watch. Increasingly, it's women, including groups like the pink ladies who are leading protests.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Over the last few months, I've been spending time with the women's only groups that are protesting against immigration. The starting place, they say, is women's and children's safety. But it also goes much further than that. One straw will break the cameras back. And that happens, they'll be civil war. This is a different form of right-wing activism with a very different image. Social media is crucial to finding new audiences and recruiting more women to the cause. And it operates across European borders. Some women bridal are being called far right.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Others embrace it. A lot of people frame us as the devil and just think that we're untouchable. Traderist governments gave out visas and passports like confetti. Would I deport the Jewish people? Yeah. Yeah. Now, some of what you're here is uncomfortable. Some of it is offensive. These groups don't look like the traditional far right. Uncomfortable, offensive. What are you talking about, your little snowflake?
Starting point is 00:51:01 All I see is inspiration from patriots like All the Minnie Hayne of Restore Britain. The pink ladies are a decentralized organisation, with branches and counties all around the UK. Alien men from alien cultures with zero respect for our way of life. But their figurehead is Ola Minahom, one of the organisers of the original Pink Ladies in Epping. You know, a couple of people, not sort of named people, but have said here as part of Pink Ladies, that they wouldn't vote for reform because they hire Muslims. Other people said there shouldn't be any migration because these are third world cultures. I'm not saying you believe that, but does that help your cause?
Starting point is 00:51:41 Of course it doesn't help, but look, ultimately, I am not in charge of people's opinions. I am here for one specific reason. My specific reason is that these men are coming into this country. Now, even if 1% of them, which is very realistic, 1% of them are, you know, child abusers, rapists, sex offenders, that is too many. Now, we have enough of our own to deal with. Save our children, no one can argue with that as a phrase. I suppose their argument would be that they wouldn't argue with that. How can anyone argue that?
Starting point is 00:52:13 But they would say, is there a risk of demonising immigrants? Now, Alla said this reporter freak actually had followed her around for months, trying to catch her into saying something that could be edited out of context. Today, she posted on X, a documentary on far right women's movements across Europe, including the pink ladies. Interesting how Sky is still portraying us as evil extremists when women and girls across Europe are being brutalized, raped and murdered by illegal migrant men. But of course, women are the enemy. Now, what's interesting is that they're also trying to be. trying to demonise women here for pointing out something that I have that I think Reform UK is too embracing of Islamism.
Starting point is 00:52:55 What was it about reform that wasn't hard-edged enough for you, I suppose? They're not loyal to me. They're going left. They're hiring Muslims. The issue with reform for years that they've got Muslims representing. Yeah, yeah. I just think because Islam is so incompatible with Western democracy, it just, we've got to put the barrier. But the fact here is plain and simple, we do not recognise this country. And that's due to migration and corrupt officials in the Home Office that are British, but they are traitors.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And so you saw her there? Sly News had its next target. Lucy White, a regular here on outspoken. Others, like Lucy White, take it further. Turning those concerns into a broader political argument about migration, identity, and the future of Britain. I sat down with her away from the crowds a few days later. She is a policy specialist and campaigner for Restore Britain,
Starting point is 00:53:56 the far right political party headed by the MP Rupert Lowe. I would say my mission, for example, is to get as many women as possible to understand the dangers of mass migration from the third world. Well, Lucy has exclusively responded to her portrayal by Sly News today. So Sky News just released a documentary on us titled, Why Are Women Joining Europe's Hard Right Movements? Well, that question can be answered by the fact that the Home Office, even this week, just released leaflets telling asylum seekers not to sexually harass and rape women.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Perhaps that's your answer, Sky News? And also, how can you call us hard right for not wanting to be raped and attacked and demographically replaced? in our homeland. This is why the mainstream media are totally irrelevant. Yeah, she's right. But what they did, and this is a technique, I want you to realize, this is a technique that Sly News will always use. They pulled out the obligatory leftist academic to brand all pink ladies, patriots, as far right. This woman do not necessarily join what they see as far right movement, but they end up in movement that are far right.
Starting point is 00:55:15 If you take the pink ladies, I think their stances, their claims, their relationship with other activists, Tommy Robinson, for example. So their position within the space of social movement make them a far-right political group, although they are women-led, so they are far-right women's group.
Starting point is 00:55:34 But the individuals who engage in this group are not necessarily per se far-right racist activists, but they become, they may become racist. But who is the real target of Sly News? It soon became clear, Rupert Lowe's new party, surging in the polls, Restore Britain. Some of the faces are familiar from earlier this summer. The people who move them are the enemies of this country.
Starting point is 00:56:00 What's new are the explicit links with Restore Britain. And we'll hunt them down and we'll find them and will destroy them. The party's security spokesperson, Henry Bolton, is the guest speaker. Ollah Mene is a member of Restore, and it's spokesperson for the safety of women and children. I think the rhetoric there is a little more punch to it. It is a bit more punch to it. It is a bit more punch. That's because every day there are stories of rapes, every day. And, I mean, there is not a day that goes by, that there isn't a story of some sort to do with a girl being raped.
Starting point is 00:56:36 And it's just out of control. I wanted to ask all her about her own views on ethno-nationalism. On ex-formly Twitter, she's interacted with an ethno-nationalist called Steve Laws. Based on what he says online, he's quite ethno-nationalist, and that to me doesn't feel like what this is about. I think there's a, look, I think the discussion around ethno-nationalism is an individual one, right? I don't judge anyone for their views. I don't judge anyone for their views.
Starting point is 00:57:01 I don't judge anyone, you know, people are in touch their views. I have my views, and my view and my whole, outlook at the moment is completely based around illegal migrant men attacking and assaulting girls. That's all I care about. The ethno nationalist argument is for another day, for another time, in another situation. Many of the women I spoke to over the last few months are having that argument now. It is a quick move from protesting about women's safety to talking about mass deportations on the basis of ancestry. Another way of saying ethnic cleansing. That is an extreme view and certainly not one shared by most people on this march, for instance. But for those who do, women's groups
Starting point is 00:57:42 offer a new way to spread that message. One that looks gentle, but is just as fierce. Tom Cheshire, Sky News. Isn't it. Cleansy! I mean, ludicrous! Adam Brooks standing up! For the pink ladies today, I've stood on dozens of protests next to women and girls that have been sexually harassed, abused or attacked by asylum seekers. I've stood by these women and girls in Whitechapel, when counter-protester mob started abusing and trying to intimidate them. You are not shutting us up. Deport, deport, deport, watch. This is about peace and demonstrate for the safety of our women and our children.
Starting point is 00:58:20 And your counter-demonstrating us. What does that say for you? Morse. And the rising star of Reform UK, Russell Quirk, joins us. alongside one of those clearly far right nutters, Lucy Connolly, because Lucy, I mean, you spoke at one of these pink ladies event, you dangerous, dangerous woman. No, I had an absolute ball at the pink ladies' protests that I went to.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I actually attended it last September. I'd only actually been released from prison a few weeks. And I thought, they invited me to go along. And I thought, okay, let's go. And it was just such a jolly affair. don't get me wrong these ladies are fierce you know don't get in between a mama bear and our cup but they have there's no malice to them there's no aggression to them you know it was more of a party you know they'd got music in the street and and they were like having a lovely lovely
Starting point is 00:59:23 day and it was just sounds silly but like one big party but you know making their point that they are not happy about the mass you know immigration of these men that are raping women and children. So to suggest that these people are far right is absolutely ludicrous. And it just actually makes me laugh now. Like Russell said earlier, it's just lost that. There's no stigma anymore. Call me far right. Call me racist. Come me what you like. I don't care. You know, it's nonsense. And Russell Quirk, I mean, you are a rising star prominent member of Reform UK, elected member of Reform UK too. And you see what Sign News are trying to do that. Well, what about the fact that the off-communists now investigating them for their harassment of Nigel Farage's
Starting point is 01:00:07 daughter? I mean, how on earth can Sly News claim to be an impartial news organisation? As far as I can tell, Russell, it is now an activist organisation campaigning against your party, Reform UK, your leader, Nigel Farage, but also restore Britain and Rupert Lowe as well. But what do you make of this, both this documentary, but also this decision for the off-communist to actually investigate? Yeah, I think Sky News have probably started to overtake the BBC, haven't they, in terms of their kind of obvious left bias and activism. You know, the BBC are bad enough, I think. And, look, Sky, I would argue, they can do what they want, I suppose,
Starting point is 01:00:48 within the confines of the law. What should then happen, like most of us have done, is that as a commercial organisation, people switch off, people simply stop watching. And that means that when it comes to the audience numbers, therefore, I would imagine that commercial advertisers stop wanting to advertise, or certainly the amount of money they want to spend with Sky will reduce. So it kind of filters them out, I think, by way of, ironically, a free market, which probably some of the lefty producers and presenters on Sky News
Starting point is 01:01:18 would probably not advocate as we would in terms of us being kind of free marketeers. In terms of the, I suppose the decision to investigate Sky News for the disgraceful doorstepping of Nigel Farron's daughter, of course, is not. not in politics, somebody that is not active at all politically. Look, great, but call me a cynic, but I wonder how that will end up. Do we think that offcom who, as you say, are run by ex-Sky news people, we know that off-com are left-leaning, we know that they're biased, we know that they're not fit for purpose, would be a talk surprise, Dan, if the outcome of that investigation into Sky is one where there's ultimately no case to answer? I suppose.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I just bet that will end up being the outcome, won't it? I think so. It's like marking their own homework, to be honest. Literally the boss of the off-communists used to be. And I'm not talking that long ago. Used to be the woman in charge of making all of the editorial decisions at Sline News. Now, Russell, I was very interested in something that has gone viral. And it was your clash with this awful, awful guy.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Awful guy. But you say that in the past, you've been quite full. friendly with him. I heard you on Mike Graham's show. Matthew Stadlin, but I actually think he is one of the worst people. You know when I was at GBC News, I would not have him. I just, like, I understand they have to have left us on, right, because of the whole off communist thing. But for me, Stadlin was just like a bridge too far. Like I'd have Butterworth, but not Stadlin. I couldn't do it. But this was fascinating to me, Russell, because here you are wanting to talk about this shocking brochure that has been released and the fact that these migrant men are quite clearly raping and pillaged in our women.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And Stadlin just kept on wanting to divert the conversation. So I'll get your reaction, but I just want to show people in case they haven't seen it, how this actually erupted and then went viral. How dare you? How dare you say that we welcome all these people with open arms and what do they do instead? They come and rape out our women and children.
Starting point is 01:03:27 It is a tiny percentage of people who commit these evil crimes. And let me give you some stats, according to this crime survey of England and Wales, with the latest available data for the last year. That's not data. It is data. It's a survey. It's not crime facts. It's not crime.
Starting point is 01:03:45 It's very difficult to log crime. There are different ways. There's reported crime. A lot of people don't report crime. So this actually talks about those who didn't report crime as well as those who did. And unless people are lying in this survey, then I think it's data we should look at. roughly 16% of people in this country or in England and Wales over 16 have experienced sexual assault since the age of 16
Starting point is 01:04:09 and of the victims of rape and assault victims that we all care about and I care every single bit as much about them as you do let me assure you of the victims of rape or assault by penetration or assault by penetration including attempts since they were 16 over half over half roughly 55% of those victims were assaulted by their partner or ex-partner. We have a crisis in this country. We have a crisis in this country
Starting point is 01:04:39 of violence against women and girls. And if every time you and I were on a panel, we were talking about domestic abuse, then we might do something about the domestic abuse in this country. But all you want to talk about is people who are victims of migrants or asylum. But Russell wasn't letting Stadlin
Starting point is 01:04:57 just overtalk him. It went on. So what you're doing is what you and your kind always do, rather than arguing over the specific issue, which is the fact that we have 40,000 people or so coming over here on boats that are undocumented, that are unknown, the fact that Afghan men are far more likely, several times more likely to commit sexual offence.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Based on international... No, no, based on government data, incomplete. And Eritreans, and Kenyans, and Iraqis, and Iranians, and so on. All you want to talk about is the problem that also exists already. When do you talk about that problem? We are talking tonight, Matt, Matt, our debate tonight. We never talk about it, Dawn. It's always another time, we never talk about it.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Dawn, I'm sure we're welcome the fact to talk about domestic... No, but what we'll shine away from. What you're deflecting from is the fact that foreign nationals that come here, often where we don't know who they are, what their track record is, or what their criminal history is, are more likely to rape our women and girls. And you're not even seeking to defend it. You're deflecting it. No, you have not got the evidence for that.
Starting point is 01:05:59 I have. No, you haven't. You try to dismiss me. My data. Your data is incomplete. The internet is a wonderful thing. But what? Oh, he's getting angry. He's losing.
Starting point is 01:06:05 So then do you know what Stadlin did to make his suicidal, empathetic argument? I'm a father. I'm a father. Well, so is Russell. So is Russell. What? I'll ask you is this. Do you think, given that you know nothing about these people who are coming over on these
Starting point is 01:06:19 dingies? Do you think we should know who they are? Do you think, do you think they're savages? Do you think they are? Do you think they're savages? Would you agree with the answer? I think there are savages. on national TV so we know where you're coming from.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Answer the question directly. Answer it then. Do I think that a number of those people on those boats of savages, yes, I damn well do. And a number of homegrown Brits as well. Do you agree that the number of homegrown Brits are savages? They rape our children, they mug us, they stab us. And do we have homegrown rapists and child molesties, do we? Are you only interested in people who come from abroad?
Starting point is 01:06:56 Are you only interested in people who come from abroad who rape our children? Because I'm a father. Matt, you're deflecting again, because you have no defence. I've got it. You're deflecting because you have no defence. I'm interested in what Dawn has asked me to come here and talk about, which is migrants come to and raping people. I can't stick to the point. I've perfectly stick to the point.
Starting point is 01:07:14 All right. Can I answer them? Owned, you owned him and you kept calm, Russell, and he was infuriated. And is it true that he was furious at the end of that debate? What happened? Well, he was going redder and redder and redder. He was definitely getting very, very angry. because, of course, not only would I not let him off the hook
Starting point is 01:07:33 and I was matching him, I think, kind of pound for pound, but he was displaying the typical, there are two typical tactics that the left use, right? One is to talk over you because they know that if they do that, when it happens to be turned up a bit louder, as seemed to be the case last night, that they stop you making your point. So they're desperate to try and overtalk you,
Starting point is 01:07:54 to effectively mute you to stop you actually landing your killer blows, which obviously I was doing. But that's the first. technique. The second technique is what we call deflection, which is when you say to someone like Matt Stadden, do you think it's okay that 3,600 foreign nationals have raped people in this country in a four-year period? He can't possibly say it's okay, although he probably wants to. So he has to deflect. So then what he started to talk about was what Zia Yusuf had said on television about a week ago and what Lee Anderson had said about three weeks ago. And the fact that, well, we've got a domestic
Starting point is 01:08:29 abuse issue in this country. Of course we have. We've definitely got crime in this country. My point is that you don't bring in undocumented people that, A, you know, you know have a great propensity to commit sexual offences. But by the very nature of bringing them in, you're adding to the risk to our women and girls. And he wants to talk about Matt Stadlin being a father. If you're a husband or a son to, you know, a mom or you're a father to girls, I mean, I would think it's pretty instinctive. I mean, it certainly is for me to want to protect women and girls generally. Totally. From people that are 22 times more likely to come over here. That's why I never understand. I never understand about these lifters. It's like you are a father and you're you're
Starting point is 01:09:13 exposing your daughter to that. I mean, it's their ideology. You see, because in it they say, okay, we have to accept the data and the facts that people that come here and undocumented are more likely to rape people. And those, those, my, my. The point was at the beginning, you show this particular clip. I said, you have to think about the victims. Don't just think about the people that come here and rape people. Think about the 3,600 girls or women in that four-year period that have been raped. The devastation to them and their lives and their partners, their husbands, their families, their, you know, their loved ones, right? That's the issue here. Why is it okay to add to that tally of crime and sexual abuse? Now, if Matt Stadlin and Jonathan Liss and Benjamin Butterworth and Barry Gardner and Inamishkov, all the lefties we know that try and defend this nonsense, if they for one second have to admit that the data is right and that's a problem, then the whole All Immigrants and Refugees are Welcome project is trashed, isn't it, in 10 seconds? So they can't admit it. They can't admit it's a problem.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Breaking today, it is the one-year anniversary of Slippery Starmers political prisoner Lucy Connolly being released from prison after she was sentenced to that bump. Barric sentence for a deleted tweet, a sole post on X expressing indignant anger over the Southport massacre where those beautiful three young girls who we have never forgotten were slaughtered at a Taylor Swift dance class by the Islamist terrorist Axel Rudy Cabana, another thing that the mainstream media will not say. Now Lucy's case, in large part, down to outspoken, ended up capturing the attention of the world. And exactly one year since that momentous moment, Lucy is going to join us shortly to reflect on what has been an extraordinary 12 months. Lucy, I'm not sure if you've
Starting point is 01:11:12 seen this. The mainstream media went crazy. About that moment, you step foot outside the prison. Breaking news to bring you now, just hearing that Lucy Connolly has been released from prison. Stomber facing fresh accusations of hypocrisy. This is over the jailing of Lucy Connolly. Now, she is expected to get out today. My understanding is that Lucy Connolly has indeed now been released from prison. Yes, I was here earlier with about a dozen photographers and other news crews waiting for Lucy Connolly to emerge from Peterborough Prison and then just after 10 o'clock a white taxi was driven out of the main door behind me but it had tinted windows, rear tinted windows,
Starting point is 01:12:04 so it was very difficult to see who was inside. But then one of the prison officers came over and he confirmed that that was Ms Connolly being released from prison. But Lucy, of course, didn't go running to speak to the MSM journalist who remember had celebrated her imprisonment at the time. Instead, wisely choosing to give her first post-prison interview the day after, here on outspoken and also to our good friend, another loyal supporter Alison Pearson of the Dainley Telegraph.
Starting point is 01:12:32 You have had to see the mainstream media try and tell your story, try and paint you as something that I know you feel that you're not. Couldn't be further from the truth. Yes, I should never have said what I said. It was wrong. But I'm no far white activist. I'm no far white thug. In fact, this far white thing is just not even a thing, is it really?
Starting point is 01:12:58 face it and it's a way to deride patriots it is you know you're shutting people's voices down so let's give them a label let's tell them they're bad people because then they'll be quiet she exposed the details of how the cps twisted her words and whilst i appreciate most of them are really probably decent people and just here for a better life if there's one person in those hotels that could harm our children that is one too many and that was then used in I believe the statement by the CPS to suggest that you had expressed anti-immigration and even racist views in the past. That I didn't like immigrants. I think their words were Mrs. Connolly said she didn't like immigrants and they were a danger to our children. That isn't what I said.
Starting point is 01:13:45 It was completely twisted and I will eventually at some point release that interview so that everyone can see for themselves that what the police said and what the CPS said are two very different things to what I said in my interview. Now, the left used that interview to try and destroy Lucy. Narenda Kaur actually wanted her locked up again. It didn't work because guess what? The British public was with her. And it resulted in an extraordinary 12 months, starting with Lucy receiving a standing ovation
Starting point is 01:14:16 when she was asked to speak weeks later at the Reform UK Party conference. So I am of course referring to Britain's favourite political prisoner. Ladies and gentlemen, please give the warmest of welcomes to Lucy Connolly. And despite Nigel Farage receiving a huge amount of flack for that decision to invite Lucy to the Reform UK conference, he has always stood by Lucy even inviting her into his studio on GB News. So what does Lucy Connolly do now? Well, as I said, I'd really love to work with you guys on prison reform because we all know you're getting in next, you know. I think I'm fairly confident that the next party in will be the reform party.
Starting point is 01:15:28 And, you know, I personally welcome that because we need some massive change. We can't keep doing the same thing and, you know, expecting a different result. Things aren't working in this country. The prison system definitely isn't working. So we need to have a different, you know, attack at it and fix it. I mean, it can't be fixed overnight. We've got a lot to do. but we can certainly have a good go.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Thank you. Well, folks, that was Lucy Connolly. It is the most extraordinary story how somebody living a very straightforward, relatively normal life with all its ups and downs, is suddenly thrust into a level of fame that she couldn't have even believed of. I just hope and pray that we continue to have
Starting point is 01:16:07 this proper debate about free speech, about what is acceptable, about what is not. And I think we're going to have to rethink many of the laws we've got in this kind of. country. But despite Nigel Farage's support, Lucy Connolly also worked with Rupert Lowe, the leader of Restore Britain, on the Westminster Hall debate calling for an end-to-prison sentences for social media posts. This debate is not about whether we are prepared to live in a country where liberty exists only for those who never cause offence, an impossible and undesirable standard.
Starting point is 01:16:39 to Lucy and to every other person who has found themselves dragged through the system for a post online, you deserve better from your government. And I sincerely hope today marks the beginning of a serious rethink in this house. That kicked off Lucy's burgeoning media career as she interviewed Rupert exclusively for outspoken following the debate. A lot of people in this country right now are fearful of what they post online. and they might have backed off a little and are generally worried about what is acceptable, what could be construed as hate speech, etc. Do you think that, you know, that the debate acknowledged that?
Starting point is 01:17:25 No, I don't think it acknowledged that. I think what we need to encourage people to do legally and in a peaceful way is to stand up to all of this petty bureaucracy. Don't let the state bully you in any way. Oh my God. What a year. Lucy Connolly on the outspoken superstar panel today alongside Reform UK star Russell Quirk.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Lucy, I mean, it is astonishing, isn't it? To think we sat down one year ago tomorrow. You had no idea how the public were going to react to you. And look at everything that you've achieved. Of course, I should also point out, you have now released your autobiography to a tweet too far. I have, yeah. I mean, absolutely, what a year.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Even now, when I look back, you know, that reform conference is watching that back still gives me goosebumps now. I mean, I did not know what kind of, you know, reception I was going to get when I left. And bearing in mind, I'd watched for the past year, Sly News and BBC, you know, cutting to pictures of, you know, hotels on fire and far right racist thug and, you know, public enemy number. one and it really was that bad. I'm not exaggerating. I've never quite seen anything like it, especially for somebody that was never known up until that point. So I didn't know what the reception was going to be like, even though I'd been receiving like thousands and thousands of letters and cards and emails in prison with people, you know, quite outrage of what had happened to me and offering their support. And that was absolutely lovely. You just don't know. Was I going to walk
Starting point is 01:19:04 down the street and be called a racist and get lynched in the street. I didn't know. But, you know, so... And has that happened at all, Lucy, because you are subjected to a sort of metaphorical ton of abuse online? In person, has there been any of that? Never, ever, ever. Only people coming up to me, shaking my hand, giving me a hug, you know, having discussions about how awful they think it was, how sorry they are for my family, how, you know, they hope I can have some impact in future on prison reform and politics. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And nobody ever says anything negative to me, only the trolls online. Cheers lefties, by the way. Exactly. Because Russell, I mean, the imprisonment of Lucy Connolly definitely backfired on slippery stammer, didn't it? And I will go so far to say, Russell, as I think it hastened his demise. because what happened after the Southport massacre was that the public turned on a prime minister because we're like, oh my God, you're locking us up for being upset.
Starting point is 01:20:08 And Lucy's story actually almost became the personification of that sort of abuse of power, I think, which Stama's government really went forward with. Yeah, Lucy, I should have perhaps bought you a cake or something, is it? She's happy with the champagne, trust me. 12 months out of prison cake. Yeah, I think you were definitely the poster child, I think, for everything that was bad about, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:36 Kirsteinner's kind of first 12 months, weren't you? On the basis that it was very, very clear. In fact, you were the catalyst, I guess, for the whole two-tier policing, two-tier justice phrase. You know, that reality, and it is reality, the different people from different parts of society, people with different coloured skins, people from different races,
Starting point is 01:20:55 and from the point of view of having different political, views are treated differently. You know, you're 31 months, which was your kind of overall sentence, I think you would have you served, 13, 14 months? 12.4, no, 12.4 months. So you actually receive more than many migrant rapists and sex offenders actually get in terms of custodial sentences. And of course, you know, we've got this, almost this hypocritical two-pronged approach, haven't we, where you've got, you know, shoplifters, a let off the hook. There was a Labour councillor, of course, that, you know, stood up in a crowd of people and went like this insofar as those people on the right of the political spectrum that he thinks should have their throat cut and got away with it. And then, of
Starting point is 01:21:37 course, you, for retweeting something that was, should we say, fruity, ends up with an absolutely abhorrent and outrageous and disproportionate prison centre. So I think, you know, you should pack yourself on the back that although it might not have felt it at the time, you were the catalyst, You were the poster child. You were the kind of the pivotal point, I think, that also demonstrated that the law is meddled with by politicians. And you and I have spoken about this. I remember interviewing you on stage at a reform due some months ago where we talked about
Starting point is 01:22:12 the Lord Herma involvement and the proof now, and I think it's been admitted. The former attorney general. Yeah. Kirst Dahmer and Lord Herman actually collaborated over your individual-specific sentence to Invert your commas, make an example of you and your kind. I mean, that is absolutely disgraceful. Absolutely. And I'm actually quite a lot proud, actually,
Starting point is 01:22:38 that I feel like I'm part of Kea Formas, part of Kea Stama's demise. Well, we can call him Keaforma now, thank God. Or a former of whatever he was, sir, prime minister. Looking, yeah. I think you were. I honestly think you were.
Starting point is 01:22:55 I think it all changed for summer because it was like, oh my God, his solution is just to terrify us into silence. And if it means locking up a grieving mother, all the better for it because it could be me who's locked. If they're going to lock her up, they're going to lock me up. That's exactly what they wanted everyone to think, isn't it? Oh my God, if it could happen to her, it could happen to me.
Starting point is 01:23:19 And the funny thing being now, at the time it did work, didn't it? I mean, I certainly know, like, my Twitter pals and my friends were shitting themselves, deleting social media. Even though they hadn't said anything wrong, even though they weren't being racist or any of those things, they were like, are they going to come for me next? They've come for Lucy. She didn't say anything that, you know, any of us haven't kind of said and what we're going to do, you know. So, and for maybe a year or so, it did. It did make people think twice about what they posted on social media for that very reason. They didn't wonder enough in my situation.
Starting point is 01:23:51 But I think since, you know, we've taken Starma down and since my, you know, I released information, more and more information about my case and, you know, we speak about Peter Lynch, etc. I think people have seen it for what it is. And now they're at the point where they're like, no, I won't be silenced, I won't be shut up. You know, I'll go to prison then.
Starting point is 01:24:10 What are they going to do? Put us all in there because apparently they've got no room. Yeah, exactly. They definitely don't. Well, look, Lucy, we have loved being part of your journey. We love having you as part of the outspoken superstar our panel. Thank you so much. Congratulations and everything you've done over the past year.
Starting point is 01:24:25 And Russell Quirk, we adore you too. Of course, rising Reform UK star and independent broadcaster and property expert, Russell. Where can everyone find out much more about you? Me, I guess on Twitter or X, whatever it's called this week, at Russell Quirk. There you go. As per the caption and
Starting point is 01:24:43 on Facebook as well. Twitter though is where I kind of apply my political trade more often than not. I love having you here too, Russell. Thank you so much. Thank you both so much. Have an amazing weekend.
Starting point is 01:24:56 But before we go, we are going to reveal the worst Britain in the world this week. And it's when we put your union jackass winners from across the week head to head. On Monday, it was, of course, Edwina Curry. Poor Edwina. But remember, she made that comment about needing to build a brothel, build a brothel and Biddington.
Starting point is 01:25:14 On Tuesday, Diane Abbott, because of her comments about the lynching, the so-called lynching of Jason R. On Wednesday, it was Zach Polanski, also R-Day-related, and on Thursday, Megan Markle, for her return to the UK. Your comments, Trevor Evans 5942 says they will. Adwere, would be mean to vote for her. I actually agree, but of course, she won the Union Jackass, so it's not my call, but I like Edwina.
Starting point is 01:25:40 I'm going to say it. Don't agree with everything she says, but I think she's a good woman. Barry Thoughts 1849 said Abbott's track record isn't great, not the brightest of politicians one on Earth, possessed Burnham to swear her back into the party. given her views that she had to leave the party for. And then there was all 394, says Abbott just eclipsed Polanski for me this week. Ella 7719 says Zach Polanski dancing on stage ruined by Boomtown Festful.
Starting point is 01:26:06 I couldn't believe my eyes, literally mortified. Jeff Stevens, 4262 says Polanski always comes out on top of these polls or whatever his real name is. It's Dave, by the way, it's Dave. The tip whisper is what I call him actually. Coll is seven, says Megan Markle is just annoying and pretend. but she's harmless really. The others actually have the ability to make a negative impact on the you can want power and want to change things for the worst. I agree. I think, sorry, I disagree. I think, no offense, but I think Megyn Markle is incredibly dangerous. She tried to destroy our monarchy
Starting point is 01:26:34 with lies about racism and I don't want her back. And Matters 23 says, I didn't vote for Markle, but we need to ignore her and get our country as a priority. We have a lot worse to deal with. Okay, so it was actually pretty close over the course of this vote. And as you say, it's usually Polansky who comes out on top. So let's see. In fourth position with 7% of the vote, Edwina Curry. In third position with 13% of the vote, Diane Abbott. The runner up this week, and this was a surprise,
Starting point is 01:27:05 with 36% of the vote, Zach Polanski, but the worst Britain in the world this week. And I know she's not a real Britain, but she is coming to live here. So just accept it this week. She deserves that Megan Markle with 43% of the vote. And we are actually moving over to Substack now to continue our conversation on this. Harry and Megan's return with Royal YouTube Sensation according to Taz. You can join us there at www.w.w.compan.com. I do hope you have a fabulous weekend, though.
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