Dan Wootton Outspoken - RACHEL REEVES MUST QUIT AS CHANCELLOR AFTER SHOCK LINKS WITH ISLAMIST EXTREMIST EXPOSED

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Rachel From Accounts exposed for supporting an Islamist extremist, as the Chancellor’s already destroyed reputation is hammered as Robert Jenrick reveals her secret lunches with Arshad Khatana, a man who claims HE controls Reeves. Mainstream UK politics has been completely taken over by Islamist extremism at just the wrong time, with Farage claiming Reform UK WON the Gorton and Denton by-election among British-born voters. Oh and the Deputy Leader of the Islamist Green party Mothin Ali has been at a protest seemingly supporting the Iranian regime after the US effectively declared war. And there is a terrifying developing story in Scotland today, with a suspected migrant on the run after a suspected stabbing attack near a primary school. Meanwhile, Donald Trump has slammed Slippery Starmer for his Iran U-turn and brands his Chagos sellout as very woke. There is also growing discontent about the Muslim takeover of our culture, with booing at the Leeds vs Man City game which was paused to allow Muslim players to break their fast for Ramadan and the Conservative politician Esther McVey expressing outrage over hidden halal meat. We’ll hear Esther – who is also a member of Rupert Lowe’s Rape Gang Inquiry – today as she reunited on screen with her ex-GB News co-presenter Philip Davies, who just so happens to be her husband too. The Tory duo are today’s Superstar Panel. PLUS: Restore Britain and Reform UK at war over whether the United Kingdom should be involved in the new Middle Eastern war. We’ll debate. AND: Political prisoner Lucy Connolly reports Brexit virgin Femi Oluwole to the police over his increasingly concerning train stalking. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle humiliated again on Saturday Night Live as Prince Harry is slammed for his increasing support of left-wing extremists. We’ll team up with Royal News Network for all the latest. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 436. And breaking right now, Rachel from accounts exposed for supporting an Islamist extremist, as the chance's already battered reputation is destroyed. Robert Jenrick has revealed her secret lunches with Ashad Katana, a man who claims he controls Reeves. been hanging out with the man she describes as her friend, Arshad Katana. Pleasure to be here with you this evening. A man who shared a military video which also glorified terrorists from two terror groups who said that those who speak against Islam are an evil gang who he will help to destroy, who's hosted preachers at his Leeds Mosque with vile views.

This is a man who we know she has met at least 27 times, whose home she's visited for lunch, who she follows on social media, she's taking us for complete and utter fools. Absolutely, and this comes as mainstream UK politics is completely taken over by Islamist extremism at just the wrong time. With Farage claiming Reform UK actually won the Gorton and Denton by-election among British-born voters. In that constituency, Saw, witnesses see family voting.

If that's the pressure exerted in the polling booth, you can only imagine what other pressures there will be. Oh, and by the way, the deputy leader of the Islamist Green Party, Mofanali, has been at a protest seemingly supporting the Iranian regime after the US airstrikes. He believes that peace can only be secured through peaceful means. he believes in diplomacy, he believes in seeking peace in the Middle East. And that is the position of the Green Party.

Green's deputy leader, that charming chap, Mothin Ali, he was out protesting in favour of the Iranian regime at the weekend. Corbyn was there too, obviously. Didn't see any talk about the environment in the by-election, quite extraordinary. But there's no peace in the United Kingdom, a terrifying developing story in Scotland today, with a suspected migrant carrying out a violent attack. near a school and then effectively locking himself up in this building, taunting us all. As the authorities watched on, he has finally been arrested as we come to air today. Meanwhile, Donald Trump slamming slippery Stama for his Iran U-turn branding his Chegos sellout as very woke.

The United Kingdom played no role in these strikes. has requested permission to use British bases for that specific and limited defensive purpose. We have taken the decision to accept this request. And even though you won't hear it in the mainstream media, there is just growing discontent throughout our disunited kingdom about the Muslim takeover of our country with booing at the Leeds versus Man City. game, which was paused to allow Muslim players to break their fast for Ramadan and the former Conservative Cabinet Minister Esther McVey expressing outrage over hidden halal meat.

The unique process of halal and kosher meat requires the animal to have its throat slit. In the case of halal meat, the animal is often stunned before it's killed, although it might not be, and for the Chehita killing, for kosher meat, there is no pre-stunning. This lack of stunning causes the animal to experience severe pain. An individual concerned about animal welfare would want to know of an animal has been stunned prior to slaughter. It's just absolutely disgusting. The great news is we will hear from Esther, who remember is also a member of Rupert Lowe's rape gang inquiry.

After my digest today, as she is reunited on screen with her ex-GB News co-presenter Philip Davies, who just so happens, you know, to be her husband. husband too. So the Tory star duo, today's superstar panel cannot wait for that. Also coming up on the show today, Restore Britain and Reform UK at war over whether the United Kingdom should be involved in the new Middle Eastern War, we will debate. Political prisoner Lucy Conley reports Brexit-Virgin Femiole Wally to the police over his increasingly concerning train stalking and loose women star Kay Adams sacked by the BBC in a bizarre row about her use of the sea word.

14 years ago. Then in the uncanceled after show over on Substack, Megan Markle humiliated again on Saturday Night Live as Prince Harry is slammed for his increasing support of left-wing extremists. We're going to team up with the Royal News Network for all of the latest. That is over on Substack www.org.orgate www.outspoken.com live after the main show. We'll also reveal a brand new, greatest Britain and union jackass before the end of the show, too. You can vote right now in the live chat.

Here are today's nominees. Esther McVey has gone for Bridget Philipson, the education secretary who says parents and teachers have just found out elderly edge for girls. The private school in Esther's constituency will close in July this year due to her vindictive VAT policy on private schools. What terrible news. I've gone for Mothanali for attending a pro-Iran protest at the weekend, and Sir Philip Davies has nominated Rachel Reeves for her alleged close friendship with Ashad Katana. I have seen this happen, he says, in the Labour Party for decades. Okay, keep your comments coming through throughout the show as well, but we've got to get into this

massive Reeve scandal. So now, let's go. Mainstream UK politics has been completely overtaken by Islamist extremism. And indeed, so has our culture. And the British native population is now fighting back on everything from pausing Premier League football games so Muslim players can break their Ramadan fast, to disgusting halal meat being hidden from us. So it's almost entirely unsurprising that the MSM has just collectively shrugged its shoulders. Over this most shocking, horrifying, disgusting revelation today from Reform UK's new so-called shadow Chancellor Robert Jenrick about Labour's failed Chancellor Rachel Reeves. Not only, he reveals, is she close friends with the Islamist extremist,

Ashad Katana. This bloke is secretly advising her. Indeed, he claims to control her. And this is a man who is truly extreme. Yet do you notice what the MSAM obsesses over Tommy Robinson endorsing Matt Goodwin? Yet they ignore this real scandal. Here in Leeds where Rachel Reeves is the MP,

one in four aren't working. Now you'd think the person in charge of the economy would be focused on fixing that. Instead, she's been hanging out with the man she describes as her friend, Arshad Katana. Pleasure to be here with you this evening. A man who shared a military video, which also glorified terrorists from two terror groups, who said that those who speak against Islam are an evil gang, who he will help to destroy, who's hosted preachers at his Leeds mosque with vile views. One said we shouldn't use Google because it's run by the Jews.

Another is infamous for supporting a despicable Islamist murderer. Ashad has shared conspiracy theories about 9-11 and an international lending mafia backed by Zionist Rothschild criminals. He's called for revenge against India and for everyone to get together and finish these evils on Earth. And he said he would only support Reeves and Labour if they do what I demand. Why is Ruiz friends with this man?

Why is she hanging out with him time and again since 2010? Why is she asking his views on foreign policy? And why is she going around to Ashad's house as Chancellor for lunch? Shouldn't she be focused on getting your bills down and bringing back good jobs? A reformed government won't be for people with views like Ashad's. We'll be for you. And in the past few hours, a video has now emerged of Rearie. and her body, Ashad Katana, where it looks like she has been taken hostage to promise him

she will do everything she can to meet his demands on Gaza. Watch this. So, and Rachel promised that she's working on it. She has spoken to leader, and they are trying their best to bring this together. You want to say one or two words? Yes, of course. First of all, it's a pleasure to be here with you this evening and break your fast. with you and friends in our humanity.

Okay, thank you. It is as you say, devastating what we're seeing happening in Gaza at the moment and there does need to be an immediate humanitarian ceasefire to allow aid into Gaza so that people can be fed and people have the electricity and the wall that they need. Hostages also need to be freed. We agree with that. Because the suffering on both sides is immense. Does need to end up.

Yeah. But there is, it is a fool in what we're seeing in Gaza at a moment. And my heart breaks when I see on the news, the scenes there. So we need that immediate humanitarian fire. But we also then need to rebuild the efforts to get a two-state solution with a secure Israel alongside a violent, a whole Palestinian state. And that's the only way that we can. have lasting peace in the Middle East, which I know you Mr Katana and the community in

Omley and Leeds want to see and I want to see as your MP and I will do everything in my power. I promise you that. I'm mortified. That woman's running our economy! Tommy Robinson posted on X Rachel Reeves and her extremist friend Ash had Katana in April 24. This is the UK's current Chancellor. The Tory surrender's betrayal of Britain pushed these scum into power.

we need a general election. Now these fuckers can't remain in place for another three years. Stephen Barrett added, she was very clearly aware. I am fed up of their lies. She has to go. And indeed, according to Robert Peston, a Labour Party spokesperson has agreed that the views are abhorrent, not shared by the Chancellor. And it turns out Archie Katana was actually a member of the Labour Party and has now been administratively suspended pending an investigation. I mean, this is insane. These are extremists, not just infiltrating the Labour Party, but infiltrating our government, and this wasn't a one-off.

In fact, Rachel from accounts met this extremist 27 times. She followed him on social media, and Robert Jenrick is set to challenge her in the house. Watch. I want to hear Rachel Rees explain herself today. If she doesn't, well, I'll ask her on the floor of the House of Commons tomorrow when she comes to do her spring statement. Why did she do this? Is she in the pocket of this man? Why was she consorting with him?

And does she think this is the behavior that British people would expect of their Chancellor of the Exchequer? This is a shocking example of the crisis that we now face today. sectarian politics in our towns and cities, more focused on issues taking place thousands of miles away from here, and represented by the most senior people in government, including the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Well, firstly on Mr. Katana, it's interesting to learn that he was a member of the Labour Party, which we didn't know until this morning. But I find it completely incredible that Rachel Reeves did not know who this month. man was, what his views were, what Thrahi posed to her community in Leeds and our country.

This is a man who we know she has met at least 27 times, whose home she's visited for lunch, who she follows on social media, she's taking us for complete and utter fools. So I would like to see Rachel Reeves come out and explain her relationship with him. why was she consorting with him? Does she condemn him completely? And distance herself from the kind of sectarian politics that we're seeing now infecting so much of our political system. And to see the Chancellor of the Exchequer, one of the most senior people in our politics,

at the heart of that kind of politics, is shocking and very disturbing. And she needs to explain herself. But do you know what's more shocking? It is not the only example of Islamist extremism in Labour that has been exposed overnight. Watch. We've actually seen yesterday that Anas Sawa's father, who himself was once a Labour MP,

has posted an emotive tribute to the dead Ayatollah, saying that he was a martyr and that he was a good voice of resistance. What is your reaction to that? Thank you. It's a bit of what I was say, isn't it really? Yeah, well, I haven't seen that. I'm not entirely surprised.

Look, that's clearly completely disgraceful. I was shown this morning by a young student, the University College London tributes to the Ayatollah. I mean, imagine if you're, well, anyone, frankly, but particularly Jewish or Persian students at that university, seeing that, these are values which are completely wrong. They're what reform is fighting against. We want a united country where we have zero tolerance for extremism

and those who celebrate it in this way. Yes, and the Green's deputy leader, that charming chap, Mothin Ali, he was out protesting in favour of the Iranian regime at the weekend. Corbyn was there too, obviously. Didn't see any talk about the environment in the by-election, quite extraordinary. And that's the problem. Labor is now competing with the Greens in terms of how Islamist they can become. And as Nigel mentioned there, the Green Party's deputy leader Mofan Ali was spotted at a protest in support of the destabilized Iranian regime on Saturday. Watch.

Kastra Arabi posted that the rally was being promoted on the regime's state-run propaganda channel. On Sunday, Marfan Ali tried to defend his position, I think badly, writing, I'm proudly anti-war. And to be anti-war, that means looking to explore all possible diplomatic solutions. The US and Israel took a unilateral decision in the midst of negotiations to kill the Iranian leader and opted for war. This is deplorable. When challenged on sly news as to why he was there, Senior Green Ellie Chowns made a huge. pathetic excuse. Watch. Video on social media about the deputy leader of the Green Party,

Mothan Ali, appearing to show him at a pro-Iran protest at the weekend. Now, I haven't got the full details of that, right? What I can say is in the video, slogans nearby him in the same footage, we must globalise our resistance to US and Zionist terrorism. Pido, hands off Iran. Can you just clear up? A, was he there? And B, what was the protest? Why was he there? My understanding is that Moten attended an anti-war protest. Moten is anti-war.

He believes that peace can only be secured through peaceful means. He believes in diplomacy. He believes in seeking peace in the Middle East. And that is the position of the Green Party. You know, we are absolutely clear that the actions that have been taken by the US and Israeli government at the weekend are not making the world a safer place. They're making it more dangerous. They're generating instability.

And they are illegal. So my understanding is that Mottin was at a protest protesting against that illegal war. The left has been exposed in terms of its reaction to the Iranian conflict with many of the pro-Pali lobby all of a sudden not giving a damn about the despotic dying regime's human rights abuses, especially towards women. The sound ones, though, no Stama has got this very wrong. Of course, Sipri Sama doesn't care about morality. or what's right, he is now simply obsessed with losing the Muslim vote to the Greens,

which prompted his deranged U-turn over the weekend. So whilst the situation is evolving very quickly, I want to set out our response. The United Kingdom played no role in these strikes. The United States has requested permission to use. use British bases for that specific and limited defensive purpose. We have taken the decision to accept this request to prevent Iran firing missiles across the region. But that's not good enough for Donald Trump, who has turned in a damning exclusive interview, the British Daily

Telegraph newspaper, which reported Mr Trump told them that Sir Keir took far too long to change his mind. That's probably never happened between our countries before he told the telegraph, adding, it sounds like he was worried about the legality. The row over Diego Garcia led the president to withdraw his support for the PM's controversial Chegos deal to hand over ownership of the Indian Ocean Territory to Mauritius. Mr. Trump told the telegraph, all of a sudden, Mauritius was claiming ownership. He should have fought it out and owned it or made him take it if you want to know the truth. But no, we were very. disappointed in care. Trump told the telegraph that the Chego Steele was a very woke thing.

It would have been much better on the legal front if he just kept the ownership of the land and not given it to the people that weren't the rightful owners, he said. Referring to Sir Kears about turn on Diego Garcia, he added, it is useful. He took far too much time, far too much time. Wow. Stam addressed Trump's disappointment in the comments in the past hour. President Trump has expressed his disagreement with our decision not to get involved in the initial strikes. But it is my duty to judge what is in Britain's national interest. That is what I've done and I stand by it. And while I appreciate the geopolitical importance of what is going on in Iran,

what I will say is that the timing of the attack means that the MSM in the United Kingdom has just, been able to move on from the stitched up Gorton and Denton by election and pretended that the dodgy family voting and the dodgy postal votes didn't happen. So I promise you, I'm not going to forget. And in fairness to him, Nigel Farage hasn't either. This weekend, he said, foreign-born voters stole the election after the reform UK candidate won among British-born voters. He vowed that if he becomes Prime Minister, he will rip up the monstrous rules which allow non-British citizens to vote in UK elections. And he added for years, I warned of the looning threat of sectarian voting. Naturally, of course, I was derided by the political establishment and accused

of spouting outrageous hyperbole. My generation grew up witnessing the violent horrors of sectarianism in Northern Ireland and the impact it had, but most believed it could never come to England. That was until the last general election when four pro-guards or independent MPs were elected to Parliament. Then finally, everybody woke up to those dangers. I am well aware that what I'm about to say will be viewed as sour grapes, but I say it because I believe it to be 100% true. Yet the British Bashing Corporation bowed to woke cultural sensitivities by not reporting claims of voter fraud in the by-election on its flagship today program at all.

And then on Newsnight, the hard left presenter Matt surely allowed the issue to be framed as one of Islamophobia. I really want to come back on this language today. we've heard all day, which is about the Muslim vote, and it really stinks of division and Islamophobia, talking to people on the doorstep, just like so many other voters across Manchester and across the country, the main thing was Greens have knocked on our doors three times, even today they knocked on the door twice,

and they've spoken to us, and they're working hard for the sea. And yes, the trust is broken, fundamentally broken with the Labour Party and the Muslim community. And it's again, not... My comments are Islamophobic. Let me just say why they're not. So independent verification has shown that 12% of votes

were cast in a way that is... Who is... No, it's not all. Of what they observed. 12% of what they observed. It's 32 cases they take over. The independent organisation

said that 12% of their observations showed family voting, which is a crime. It is actually a crime. It is a crime in this country. But the problem for Farage is that the right don't think he's done enough either. With Basil the Great pointing out, Reform are furious that the Green Party actively went after Muslim sectarian vote. Don't forget Nigel admitted as much when he picked Leila Cunningham and Muslims specifically to target that vote in London.

Watch. We've got a Muslim woman who's going to stand for us for the Mayor of London contest against Sadiq Khan. So, no, there are plenty of members of the Muslim community who will vote for reform. support reform. The difference here, of course, is that for many, many years, the Muslim vote was viewed by Labour as being a block vote. They turned out and voted for Labour in their droves. That has changed the lot. And there are so many issues caused by the hell that has been unleashed on our country. Have you heard about what happened in Scotland today? Horror in Edinburgh, terror in Edinburgh, as yet another violent attack took place.

Police firearms officers were called to the Calden area in the city. After a man was seen carrying large bladed weapons, it was then revealed that two people were injured and have been taken to hospital. Police said a male suffered injuries consistent with stabbing, whereas a female suffered a laceration to the head not believed to be caused by the bladed weapon. Witnesses saw the man with blood-stained knives outside a shop shortly after the horror took place. There were claims he was on the way to the local school, but ended up entering a nearby block of flats where he was hold up for hours in a police standoff.

Police have confirmed that they now have arrested the individual and he was quietly removed from the block of flats. All schools and council buildings in the area were locked down. Police have said it's not being treated as terror-related. although there are suggestions unconfirmed at this point that this man was a Somalian migrant. So we've got our safety under threat and then we come to our culture. And this weekend there were loud booze and whistles when the Leeds versus Man City game in the Premier League was paused to allow Muslim players to break their fast for Ramadan. Nick Dixon raised, England has had enough.

And G.B News presenter, Bev Turner, who's always moderate actually on these issues of Islamism, argued, once we accommodate Muslim traditions like this into our cultural infrastructure, there will never be any going back. It's as though the decision makers want to cause national division. Weak leadership creates uncertainty and fear. Fear creates anger. Anger creates violence. Where are the bloody adults? And I believe our next culture war is going to be overhauled. halal meat, with the Conservative former cabinet minister Esther McVey, calling for a law to label

halar and kosher meat so people can decide not to eat it. Watch. Compulsory labelling of halal and kosher meat. Here here. And products containing halal and kosher meat and for connected purposes. Mr Speaker, this is a bill about animal welfare, transparency. transparency and meat production and consumer choice. It does not seek to ban halal or kosher meat, it seeks to ensure they are clearly labelled. It is important consumers have such

information so they can make an informed choice about what they are buying. Currently, consumers do not have that information and many are purchasing and consuming halal and kosher meat without their knowledge and without their agreement. The unique process of halal and kosher meat requires the animal to have its throat slit. In the case of halal meat, the animal is often stunned before it's killed, although it might not be. And for the Chehita killing, for kosher meat, there is no pre-stunning. This lack of stunning causes the animal to experience severe pain. An individual concerned about animal welfare would want to know of an animal has been stunned prior to slaughter.

Totally reasonable. Absolutely must happen. I mean, you know I want to go much further and ban halal meat altogether, but can you believe that the Tory Grandee and Spectator Eddison Michael Gove rejected that call saying it would prove divisive, I fear? And that, folks, is why the elite class in our disunited kingdom must be completely replaced. But now the former Conservative Cabinet Minister who we just saw there, Esther McVey, is here alongside Philip Davies. Sir Philip Davies, sorry, I should say. First time I've had you since Unitedhood. Congratulations, Sir, Esther.

Lovely to see you two. Reunited the G.B. News, husband and wife, star duo, star presenting duo, and of course the stars of conservative politics, too. And it's my birthday today, guys. So I feel like this is a great press. to have you on outspoken for the first time. So thank you, thank you, thank you. And look, there is so much that we've got to talk about. But Esther, can we just kick off with your viral call, finally seeing the Conservative Party go for halal mead? And yet Michael Gove, you know, your former cabinet colleague, Esther says, oh no, no, no, no, no, that would be divisive,

Esther. Nauty, naughty, don't even go there. I mean, this is why we're never going to get the change required, isn't it? Oh, just un-mute, Hester. We can hear you. There you go. Start again. We've got you. Yeah. Poor Michael's got it wrong there. He does. And he's always said that I was always ahead of my time and got things right. And he invariably, sometime later, would follow it. So just remember that when you read his tweet there. Look, the reality of this is what was meant to be an exemption going back to 2015 for religious meat, that it could be prepared in a different way without stunning and with its throat slith. Has now become mainstream in our food manufacturing and production. And people don't want that. It was an exemption not to be the norm. We in this country have always made

sure that animals were stunned so they didn't feel the pain and then it would then be slaughtered. I think this, this growth of an exemption is wrong. And people are saying, let's get this right. As you said, I didn't call for a banning. I just called for it to be labeled. And people who want kosher and halal meat also want it to be labeled clearly. And those who don't want to be eating halal and kosher meat want to know what it is there eating. And at the moment, it has grown to the proportions that in the NHS it's being served up.

in most restaurants now and take away foods it's being sold and prepared and given to consumers who don't know about it in schools it is and we're saying that isn't right you need to know what you're eating and most people wouldn't want it well sir Philip even

even at Kensington Palace now they are serving halal meat and they're not serving non-hala meat and this is my issue it's almost going to start becoming the default meat of choice in this country. And I'm so angry about that. And that's why I do want to go one step further. I just want it to be banned. Yeah, you're right. It is becoming the default meat in many places. Because of course, if they want to appeal to, if they want to appeal to Muslim customers, then that's the easiest way to do it. Because other

people just don't complain about it or don't ask about it and things like that. Well, they don't know, but they don't know and they, exactly, absolutely. Now, this goes to show, Dan, why Esther's a much better MP than I ever was, because I actually also introduced a 10-minute rule bill to label, to have the compulsory labelling of halal and kosher meat. I think it was about 12 years ago. And there was a vote on my bill, and I lost the vote by three. whereas Esther introduced it in the last few days

and she has managed to get her bill through to the next stage without a vote. So it just goes to show how she's a much more effective politician than me because she's succeeding where I failed. Don't be so down on yourself, Philip. Absolutely. But equally, I think the public is only just becoming aware at what has been happening.

Now, Phil was an MP in Bradford, and he saw this first hand. So he could see the changes. He could see what was happening. Now, most of us in the country thought we were buying pre-studded meat. We didn't even think to question it because we didn't think we were being sold it. So I think that's the difference. The public is now cockling on to what has been happening and are deeply upset about it. Now, Philip, you have chosen Rachel Reeves as your Union Jackass nomination.

today. I am so disgusted by this relationship with Ashad Katana and it's just like, oh, nothing to see here. You know, 27 meetings with this extremist who claims Philip that he controls her. And the mainstream media don't think this is a massive story. I'm horrified. And I give huge credit, by the way, to Robert Jennerick for actually revealing a story that really the mainstream media should have revealed long ago. Yeah, I agree. Robert's done a good job. He's very good at doing these videos as well.

He conveys the message really powerfully. And the thing is, Dan, I understand why your viewers will be equally annoyed. And yes, it is outrageous. In some respects, though, I'm less annoyed because I've seen this happening in in Bradford for years and years and years where politicians, particularly the Labour Party, not

exclusively the Labour Party, will pander to a group of voters, Muslim voters in this case, where they have such as a high proportion of the vote and they will pander to people.

They probably otherwise wouldn't want to because in effect the end justifies the means. Great. I just lost you there briefly, Philip, but no, understood the point. Esther, can you believe that Reeves is just getting away with this scot-free, though? I mean, surely at the very least, Generic is right that she has to justify this relationship. She has to justify if she is indeed being controlled by this man in any way, if indeed she has made any dirty deals with him. Because I'm sorry, in that new video that's just emerged, Esther, It was pathetic. She was sitting there cravingly sort of begging for his approval over Gaza. I mean, it made me feel physically ill. Look, the spotlight is now on her to justify and explain what is going on.

You're quite right. She looks deeply uncomfortable there. She looks totally subservient. He certainly seems to be telling her what to do, and she's saying she's going to do it whether she does or doesn't. A spinning round of the camera there, you see it seems to be. a room full of men and oh gosh this was the woman who kept going on she was the first female chancellor wasn't she so pleased to be it so we do want equality in what she's talking about as well

and who she's meeting with but i'm glad the spotlight is on it because what we don't want is people to count out to a certain vote we need to know is that influence there being over the labour party not just a local MP who to be fair i might expect them to have lots of meetings with constituents there. But this is the Chancellor. What else are they asking for? And we saw how beholden the Labour Party is to the Muslim vote, how they know they're going to lose some of their key seats. Therefore, what are they doing in return? And worse, I have to tell you, the Greens, who won the Gorton and Denton by election, by putting out in Urdu, their sort of campaign strategy, some of it said, Labour must be punished for Gaza.

not what we want to hear about. Well, what are they standing for and what are they going to do for the local area? What are they going to do for the country? And what is the chancellor who seems with her budget to have destroyed the economy? We want to know what she is doing for growth, for the economy, to get people back into jobs, to find money for the defence, for the NHS, and not touting to a certain portion of the vote. The Iran invasion by Donald Trump, which took out the Supreme Leader over the weekend, has caused a significant split on the right of British politics. And I guess really sets up this difference in approach before Reform UK and Nigel Farage,

which you could argue is the sort of American neocon position being taken. And Rupert Lowe's new movement, Restore Britain, which is taking an isolationist, Britain first agenda, the one that previously had been advocated by MAGA, although of course MAGA has been split over the Iran invasion with former Trump supporters like Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Green, very much turning on the president. Basil the Great summed it up this way, but say Nigel Farage says we need to get involved in the Iran conflict. Rupert Lowe says we need to stay out. Massive difference, this tells you all you need to know. And this debate has been raging all weekend long. So when Farage posted the Prime Minister,

Mr. Needs to change his mind on the use of our military bases and back the Americans in this vital fight against Iran, Carl Benjamin of Lotus Eater, said Lindsay Graham, is that you? And indeed, Restore Spokesperson, Charlie Downs, said if a personal party is sound on immigration, economics and social cultural issues, but absolutely frothing at the mouth for or against a foreign regime, you should be very suspicious of them. I feel for the people of Iran, I wouldn't want to live under that regime, but I would not spend a single penny of the British taxpayers' money trying to topple it. It's not our fight. We've got enough trouble at home. When Nigel tweeted again, before we start bombing yet more, oh sorry, Nigel tweeted again, what did he say? The Prime Minister

needs to change his mind on the use of our military bases and back the Americans in this vital fight against Iran. Rupert Lowe responded to him saying, before we start bombing, yet more countries, I suggest you go to Clacton and look around. That, money is needed here in Britain, spent on British people. That's what Restore Britain is all about British interests first every time. But Farage wasn't having that. He very much is backing Trump on this. Watch. Right in what they're doing. And I find the actions of our Prime Minister, or the inactions, perhaps I should say, of our Prime Minister, frankly pathetic. I think to have said to the Americans that they could not use, UK bases or Diego Garcia, to carry out any of their missions,

is something that the President has responded to already by saying that he's deeply disappointed. I suspect that for once from Trump is actually a mild understatement. And I do believe that Stama's actions don't just threaten the special relationship, but probably he has posed or did pose a major threat to NATO. Rupert Lowe in response has now spelled out his position in some detail. I want to take you through it. Foreign regime change, he said, through military intervention, is not a strategy that has served Britain at all. Many British men and women have needlessly died trying to achieve that. Restore Britain's position on foreign affairs is absolutely clear. We will act when and only when Britain's interests are being protected. And this can only be done after years of rebuilding,

and re-arming. Our depleted armed forces are in no position to fight nor intervene. The capacity simply is not there. We don't have enough soldiers, bullets, tanks, jets or missiles, not even a functioning economy. The Americans are in a very different position to us. They are operating on an entirely different level. Their decisions are their decisions. We must accept the honest truth that our military has been brutally hollowed out. Our economy is failing and our country is crumbling away. That must come first every time. This all applies to Ukraine, Iran or we're in. else. We should support where possible and apply pressure. We're effective when that makes strategic sense for British interests, but we are simply not in a position to act militarily, and when Britain

itself is in such a dire strait, nor should we. To any MP, deluding themselves that we're some omnipotent global superpower, I have one suggestion, go to your constituency and look around, see what's happening in communities up and down Britain, in your community, to your voters, to the people you are supposed to represent. Our country's infrastructure has been shattered by decades of unnecessary decay and rot, failure festering everywhere for all to see. Go to a town centre, any town centre, boarded up shops, filth everywhere, graffiti, rubbish, broken pavements, hospitals literally coming apart, an NHS teetering on the verge of collapse every time it blows a cold wind. So much unnecessary death and suffering because we have failed to prioritise our own vulnerable. Schools and

batched old buildings, the concrete peeling away, the road system is in tatters, pot hole after pothole after pothole, a road network that would embarrass Indians. I mean, for goodness sake, even children's playgrounds left to rust away. Fenced off, broken equipment, do we have no pride at all? Anything that belongs to the state is shriveling and dying and nobody cares. Nothing ever gets built, never ever gets fixed. We are living in some depressing, holding patterns circling the ever closer drain. Britain is becoming a third world country. Large parts already have the infrastructure of one. And what we're supposed to just sit back and accept it, believe it, it's all normal, just part of life? No, I am absolutely sick for the grim acceptance that this is the best Britain can have.

Defeatism. We have the best people in the world, but the very worst establishment. Lions led by donkeys is unfair on the latter, so I will make no apologies for leading a political party that unapologetically puts the British people first. That is exactly what Restore Britain is doing. We will not change. I promise you that. And that then caused a huge row after Richard Tice went on LBC radio and took a very different position. because we already have a reasonable flow of refugees from Iran. Iran, in fact, was the third most common nationality of refugees on small boats in 2025. But the issue is whether or not...

Where was your support for those Iranians in small boats, which I say? Because our deep concern is that actually some of those have links to the regime looking to spread anti-Semitism. Within Iran, there are those who are part of the regime who are very bad people, and there are those who are good people, and we should be supporting the good people. And you've just got to have the courage to tell it as it is. And should we support them? As I say, if this revolution, which you're backing goes wrong,

you would welcome them if we appear on small boats. Let's back it to go right. That is what we've got to be totally focused on. As you say, there are bumps in the road. There will be bumps in the road, and you keep supporting good people. That's what you do. Restore Britain formally responded to that, saying a remarkable interview with the reforms deputy leader.

He does not rule out accepting small boat migrants from Iran. Restore Britain's position is clear. We would abolish the entire asylum system. No more asylum seekers from Iran, Afghanistan or anywhere else, not one more. But Richard then hit back, saying lies from the mad Muller supporting Restore, who are siding with nut job greens and Lib Dems against the US and Israel. Reforms policy has always been detained and deport all illegal entrants, Restore Britain. Rupert Lowe, however, hit back at Richard, saying,

we don't want just the illegal entrance deported ties, we want them all gone. Every last illegal migrant deported entrance and the millions currently living here, there is finally a political party willing to do exactly that. So to Sir Philip Davies and Esther McVey, who is the Conservative MP for Tasson, I mean Esther, what do you think when Richard says to you, okay, go and look around your constituency? Should we really even be countenancing any type of foreign conflict at the What do you think your constituents want?

Rupert Lowe said that, yes. Look, I think there were two people putting their two different opinions across. Rupert's saying we've got to consider more what's happening in the UK. Can we afford it? Would we be putting our army in Harlem's way? And then Nigel Farage putting forward his position, which is, look, this is the worst terrorist terrorist. supporting government in the world and it's causing problems right across the world. My concern was

that Kea Stama didn't have a position at all. So I could have sympathy for either positions, but I'm afraid the Prime Minister didn't have an opinion. Now, it seems as if it went a little bit personal between Rupert and Richard Dice. But I think it's just important we know what our position is. personally would be saying we have an ally. That ally is America. We are calling upon it ourselves, America, to help us in Europe, what's happening with Ukraine, what's happening with Russia, what's happening with other things. So I would have thought the Prime Minister of our country would have had a strategy, would have worked out what he was doing. Remember, he had promised for a long time. More money was going to go into the armed forces. But then

you turned on that and he's piled it all into benefits. And we don't know the current economic states because Reeves will be doing her spring statement tomorrow. So I understand where Rupert Lowe was going. If we don't have the money, we don't have the people while we're putting them in harm's way. But the reality is we should be prepared to stop terrorism because at the moment that is also coming into our country

and weakening us from within. So Philip Davies, it's interesting to see this split on the right in the United Kingdom, though, isn't it? I mean, we've seen it already happen in America. And one of the ways that Trump actually retook the White House, even though he is obviously the guy behind this military intervention, is by being firmly America first. And it created a new alliance on the right. Do you think that there is legs for that in the United Kingdom? because personally, I do, you know, I do. I think we need to be Britain first at the moment.

Like, certainly when Slippery Stama speaks about, and Boris Johnson actually, your guys, your guys ex-boss, ex-leader speaks about, you know, boots on the ground in Ukraine. I'm just like, piss off. Are you serious? Are you crazy? So I do wonder if this is quite an important strategic difference that Rupert Lowe has made here by distinguishing himself very,

very clearly from Nigel Farage on foreign policy matters. I think you write down that there is definitely a Britain-first feeling amongst many people in the country and that's certainly seen over the years with how much overseas aid was spent on all sorts of different things that the public were really annoyed about when roads were being built in other countries and yet potholes weren't being filled in our own country. I think Rupert's got a reason to be quite bitter with reform. They clearly treated him very badly and he clearly feels quite bad about it. I think he's slightly got the wrong end of the stick on this particular issue

because the US, as far as I understand, I could be wrong and you'll know better than me, Dan, but as far as I understand, they were just wanting to use our bases. They weren't asking us to lead the operation against Iran. They were quite happy to do that themselves. They just wanted to use our bases. And it seems to me that if we aren't, as Rupert says, such a grand military power anymore, and we're therefore relying on the Americans for our defence to a large extent, the least we could do is when they're doing something,

is to allow them the use of our bases when they ask for them. Seems to be not an unreasonable request. And so I think it would have been perfectly within the description that Rupert gave of what he thought our foreign policy should be in order to allow the Americans to use these bases. What I think is sad is that, you know, you've got reform and restore and whatever, arguing amongst themselves, when broadly speaking, you know, on 90% of things they will agree with each other, they just have a personal animosity. But the country is crying out to get rid of a socialist government that's doing huge damage to the country. And I think I would like to see those people who broadly agree with each other put their personal animosities to one side.

and work to actually rid this country of socialism, because that's the bit that's doing the damage, not rather than fighting amongst each other because they've got some personal differences. Well, yeah, Esther, I've been dying to speak to you, actually, because you have taken part and been on the panel of Rupert's rape gang inquiry, which I think is honestly one of the most important things that has happened in British politics in recent years.

So happy, so proud that you did that. I don't know if there was pushback or if the leadership of your party supported you doing that. But as I say, I'm so glad you did. Well, this is such an important issue. And Rupert Loh here has been brave pushing it through. And the public supported it overwhelmingly. 20,000 people he had to stop funding coming in to be able to pay for it. and expose what had gone on, this abuse of fundamentally white working class girls, from

Pakistani men, the abuse, the rape, the torture. It was horrific some of the things I heard, absolutely harrowing the things I heard, and therefore it is only right that we expose it and we stop it, because this is also now part of serious crime. It is crime. It is crime, on a monumental scale. And it has started with the abuse of vulnerable people. And if anybody hadn't tried to stop me going

to your point down, I'm afraid I thought this was the right thing to have done and I would have ignored their calls to do so. Sometimes you do need good people clubbing together to do the right thing. And it's also about shaming the government into

doing this national rape gang inquiry. Again, it didn't because it buckled to a vote, fundamentally a Muslim vote in some of its vulnerable seats. And that's why it shied away from it. And that is why now you're seeing these things even, you know, about Rachel Reeves there and these meetings she's held in her communities. Because people want to know, you know, you didn't do the rape gang inquiry. You're never wanting to do the labeling of halal meat.

There's other things you don't want to do. Actually, we want to now see who is pulling your strings labor and why. Totally. Totally. Esther, obviously there's been a lot of talk about what Rupert's like. I've always had very, very good personal relationships with him. But obviously, if you speak to the people within reform, you know, they say, oh, this guy's a monster and he's this, that. And the other thing, what was he like to work with?

on the rape gang inquiry? Well, I'm a fan. I think the fact that he had not just the bravery to do this, but actually the energy to get going. Lots of people talk in politics, but they don't actually get on and do. And he's one of these people who get on and do. So maybe sometimes he will ruffle some feathers.

Maybe sometimes he will break a few eggs, but it's to make sure that he actually gets going and doing things. And I like those kinds of people. And Esther, I've got to ask, I know you're asked all the time, but you are top of the list in terms of potential defections to both Reform UK and Restore Britain now. Have there been approaches? Is it something that you have considered or are you staying put in the Tories? Well, you know, yes, I have been approached in the past, and I am friends with all of them, Nigel Richard Tice, you know, Sarah Poachin, you know, I get on with them all. However, what I will say, if I fought my way to be a conservative in Socialist Central, which is Merseyside, I pretty much know what I am and I'm a conservative.

However, what I will say, I was very disappointed, particularly towards the tail end of the conservative time in government, because they weren't conservative enough. Therefore, I do now believe they are finding their inner conservative, their inner Tory, which they need to do. And what I would like to see is the right unite, because to me, the worst thing that could possibly happen, is that socialism gets in again, an unwanted and unloved socialist party, because we fragment our vote on the right. Yeah, very true. It's going to be so interesting to see how it all plays out. But that's why I love to see you on the rape gang inquiry,

because it gives me hope, actually. I mean, could you actually see Restore Britain almost become sort of like the right wing flank of the conservative party? I don't know. I don't know. I just, I think it's all to play for it. for, isn't it? This is horrifying. Femmy Olawli gets more nutty by the day, but Lucy Connolly, the UK's political prisoner who was locked up for one tweet for over a year and is now subjected to the most revolting vitriol from the hard left on a daily basis, is so threatened

by this bloke, who I think was stalking her on a recent train journey. You remember he posted that video of her from the carriage. And she has now made her ex-account private because she is so fearful of what Femi Ola Wally will do next. Now, I think Lucy Connolly was very reasonable. She offered Femmy the opportunity to take down the offending video and just to leave her alone. Just leave her alone. You know, she served over 12 months in prison for a singular post. By the way, a post far less inflammatory than what Femiola Wally, who I describe as the Brexit Virgin, posts on social media on a almost daily basis. Yet, he describes her as a terrorist and thinks that he can get away with it. And he has just been posting about her constantly all weekend long,

and people are now really worried because is this guy even all right? Like, he feels like he's quite deranged and is totally obsessed with Lucy. So he posted, Dear Lucy, think of all the nights you spent in prison, convince you were some noble free speech martyr who didn't deserve jail just for a tweet. By trying to have me arrested for treats, you've disproven all the lies you told yourself.

He went on. Like I said, I didn't start this fight, but eat shit, racist. He added, Lucy Connolly, threatened to have a journalist. You're not a journalist, mate. You're like so not a journalist. Arrested for filming a political figure

in a public place. She also sent a mountain of abuse. Upon seeing, I reported these threats and abuse to the police. And fearing this violated her probation. She privated her account. So he's trying to get her locked up again. Lucy Connolly wants to sue me for telling the truth about her. What a free speech icon she is. So he just went on and on and on and on. And all Lucy pointed out to him, because he kept using images of her to advance his awful cause. And all she she said is you see that photo you have used of Ray and I, it's at our son's inquest. You are a sicko. Remember, Lucy's youngest son was killed by the NHS. Lost his life because of NHS abuse. And that picture that we saw from the inquest has been used by Femiole and his deranged mission against her.

Now, you'll remember that as soon as Lucy was released from prison and gave her first interview to me, I did flag this obsession from Femiola Wally. At the time, though, she was pretty dismissive. Like, she was just like, look, he can do what he can do because she didn't know how far he was going to end up taking things. Watch him as the anti-Brexit virgin, Femi Ola Wally. Oh, Femi, yeah. And I mean, personally, I've been saying, I think you need to sue this guy's ass, because I'm going to tell you what he said, Lucy. Personally, I believe this crosses a line, but I'll leave it to you.

He has written about you. Today, the UK right wing welcomes home a terrorist with open arms. Tomorrow, thou'll claim to care about national security to justify targeting black and brown people. Lucy Connolly was one of the instigators of the most widespread terror crises in years right wing terrorism your response where does it say anything about black or brown people in my tweet where does it say anything about black or brown people on the boards of the mums and the grandmas outside hotels saying they want these people moved on i'd like someone to point that out to me because i'm yet i'm yet to see that people bring this race into everything it's not

about race they could be from anywhere and any color and it wouldn't make a difference the fact that people are worried is the fact that they are not vetted. They are coming in and we do not know where they've come from, what they may or may not have done in countries where they don't treat women and children like we do here. That is a fact. And I'm not for one second suggesting that everybody coming in in a boat is a rapist and a murder and all of those things. And most of them are going to be decent people wanting a better quality of life. Well, but many are. But many are not. Many are. But as I say, Femi has now been stalking this woman, calling her a terrorist, constantly posting about her four months. And I think

for Lucy, the final straw was the fact that she felt her safety was under threat by the time he starts getting on a train carriage with her. That can't be a coincidence. Filming her and putting it on social media. And I think when I show you this new video of Femiola Wally that he's made over the weekend, you'll probably agree with me, this dude is unhinged. And I just feel, Lucy's concern here. Watch. I appear to have embraced my inner Hannah Spencer because apparently all I do is win. Lucy Connolly has just privated her account. You know how Lucy Connolly's been sending me a bunch of abuse over the past few days?

And yesterday she said I had until 6pm to basically apologize, retract everything, delete the tweet and all that sort of stuff. Otherwise, she was going to be launching criminal proceedings against me. Well, I beat you. Because I decided I wasn't going to wait until. until 6 p.m. and I just reported her to the police because she is a convicted criminal who's out on probation. I'm a law grad. She can't win this. Especially as several of my followers have pointed out that she's called other people that word in the past, people who had not been convicted. So when I called her that, she knew that it does

necessarily mean that I was accusing her of being convicted of that. So her whole thing is a lie. So the threats she's been sending at me, threatening to call the police on me, threatening to sue me, she knows that it's full of crap. So it's just malicious intimidation and harassment. And so I tweeted that I'd reported her to the police and that this might not help her probation. And she almost immediately privated her account. And it feels fantastic because this is the same person who said, burn down the hotels full of the bastards.

If that makes me racist, so be it. And she didn't care that she made all the people in that hotel fear for their lives. And she then tried to intimidate a black man who called her out for it. And instead of winning the day, she appears to be running scared. Oh, I mean, Esther McVeigh, he is creepy. I mean, this is just stalking, isn't it? Do you think it's acceptable for him to be filming a woman who's alone on a train carriage and then posting that to social media?

Well, it's that she's become an obsession for him. Yeah. It certainly seems that he's taking great pleasure. in pursuing her, winning this battle, pushing her off X. It seems to me he's making his name off the back of her. And what she did, she admitted it was a vile, terrible tweet, but she did take it down pretty promptly, whereas he's relentlessly pursuing and pushing the same point.

I guess the downside in a way for Lucy is that she did get, a lot of fame, good, bad or indifferent, a lot of the country supporting her saying, gosh, this is too Tia Kea, how he's tweeted this woman, how she's gone to prison. When other people who've done, what she's merely spoke about on a tweet and removed,

didn't get the same sentences. So I think this fame has unfortunately brought to her this kind of character. Yeah, very true. But Philip Davies, even just from like a gentlemanly point of view, like a man, just making a woman feel that unsafe on a train carriage is just really wrong to me. I mean, Lucy has served her time. And I mean, she literally deleted that post on X within a couple of hours of having put it up. No one has

suffered more than her. I mean, she was locked up for over 12 months away from her young daughter. Yeah, I mean, if you look, if you come across somebody famous on the train and you see them, you know, and you take a video, look, look who's on the train, you know, that's one thing. When it seems that you're sort of seeking them out, which is the impression that's being given here, it certainly is a bit odd. I mean, I know I'm a former conservative MP, Dan, so I'm entitled to be out of touch, but I don't even know this, who this guy is. Who is this? I mean, who is this Femi guy? it seems to me that he's a complete non-entity who's trying to become famous. Totally.

But it seems to me that the best thing that Lucy could probably do is to ignore him. Yeah, good point. I mean, I just think he's a complete non-entity trying to get some fame and no doubt fortune on the back of it. And he hasn't got much of his own ability to do it. So he's trying to ride on the back of somebody else who's more famous than he is.

So, I mean, I think the best thing to do with a person like that is just to ignore them. Very true. I don't even know who he is. I'm not, I'm not, I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. It's, and you're right, Phil, but what I will say, and, you know, as, as, as a woman as well, I get that, constantly posted to then what has become stalking. Like you said, did he bump into her? Or was he watching her every move and then?

And that's intimidatory. I'm here. I can see what you're doing. You think you're on a train. But look, I was a coach behind him. So I think that has passed the line of sessional pursuit, as you say, for his fame. But I think a non-entity is a great word for him. Yeah, it really is.

I just, I don't believe that was a coincidence. You know, we're a very big country. They don't live in the same place. He's been obsessed with her. And what he just happens to not only be on the same train, but the same, I mean, it would be such a coincidence, wouldn't it? And, you know, I've got to know, Lucy. And she's a great person.

She's a mom, and she's trying to get on with her life. And she's served her time. And I just think it's awful. And she's not a terrorist. I mean, come on. So yeah Fairly, shame on you. Shame on you, Femmy.

Now, you know, the culture is changing when, and by the way, changing for the worst, when a very famous television and radio presenter is sacked from their job despite being competent and actually pretty damn popular because apparently they used the C word in an argument 14 years ago. Oh, and maybe flung their pen at a window of a studio booth. And I know things can get pretty stressful when you're broadcasting. Now, this is the loose woman star, Kay Adams, but it actually results, relates to her job, sorry, as a major presenter at BBC, Scotland. In case you don't know who I'm talking about,

this is the woman in question. She had been really the main star of BBC Radio Scotland, paid very good salary for a good couple of decades. And remember, she's been off and on loose women since 99. Watch this. It is a national donut week. I don't know. Do you have a favourite?

How about cream cheese and chive or even a curry donut? So how do we define show people then? I suppose it's anybody that's come from the background of travelling families, but lifestyle travelling families for their profession. Not having a cold shower. Stop it, I'm not doing it. Cold shower. No.

Three times a week. No. No. First of cold shower. Funny enough, I've got a personal sort of bet or challenge on with a friend. She has done it and I haven't. I just, you know, I look at the shower in the morning at 6 o'clock and I think, oh, nah. It's a very competent presenter, a bit of a lefty, of course, but I've always liked Kay Adams,

certainly not a bully or an intimidating figure. And that's why sources close to her are now saying that this decision was a total stitch-up, as her celebrity supporters like Julia Hartley-Brewers speak up. So let me just go through the details of this. TV host Kay Adams was acts from the BBC in an ageist and sexist stitch-up. And Powell has told the Sun newspaper. She was let go after a probe found her guilty of three misconduct claims, including swearing at a colleague, throwing a pen and berating an intern. Kay will be replaced her in one hundred and fifty thousand pounds a year job by Grant Stott, with stand and host Connie Milgockland continuing in the role for the immediate future.

But a source close to the ITV loose woman regular told the son's assistant show besieter Amanda Devlin that she leaves with her head held high and conscience clear. They added, it feels like a stitch up. Her ratings are really good, the highest on BBC Scotland. She's worked there for 15 years without issue and at ITV without complaints since 1999. Are we to believe she has suddenly become a different person? She's freelance. So they could have just said this isn't working out. It doesn't make sense unless the BBC just wanted her out and didn't want to be accused of ageism and sexism as it has been in the past. And here are the incidents in question. So in one incident 14 years ago, Kay is claimed to have used the C word. Our source added in a court of law, there would have had to be solid evidence and you'd get a fair trial.

But in the world of corporate HR, they can just use hearsay and decide that you're guilty to suit their needs. The C word allegation, which she categorically denies, relates to a heated exchange 14 years ago, dealt with at the time. So why dig it up again? As for the allegation that she threw a pen at someone, she sits in, in the radio booth an empty room on her own. The news jingle crashed into a sensitive conversation with a caller and she allegedly threw it in frustration. Even if she did, it was thrown in an empty room because the production team were next door and behind glass. Is the BBC seriously suggesting a couple of frustrated exchanges is worth someone losing their job? If so, the newsrooms would be empty. And certainly I can vouch for that. I used to be called the C word all the time.

by my bosses. It made me strong. Maybe I'm the wrong generation for this. I'm certainly not the woke HR generation. But Christo Fufas, who is a GB News contributor, defended Kay publicly, writing, I worked with Kay Adams and did not see any behavior like this. She was a delight and a brilliant journalist. Yet someone claims she threw a pen or swore over a decade ago and she loses her job. Is that where we are now? Absolute madness. The talk TV host, Julia Hartleet Brewer, added, are you bloody kidding me? Kay Adams has lost her BBC Radio Scotland job for that? She said a naughty word, slammed down her pen and didn't smoo the young trainees overblower an ego. Wow, what a monster. Isn't it amazing how many men have worked to the BBC for years who do so much worse, groom and exploit

their junior colleagues, they're off their heads on drugs and booze, even commit criminal offences, and yet their bosses happily protect them disgusting double standards? Lee Pird, the comedian, added I worked with Kay Adams since 2017 until 2025. She is professional, caring, passionate, kind and thoughtful during the pandemic. When I lost my livelihood, she checked in regularly with me. She cares about her work. I've never witnessed any inappropriate behaviour from her at all. And John James, the women's rights activist, posted,

I was a producer on Kay Adams BBC Radio Scotland Show in 2010 for around two years. It was one of my favorite jobs. Kay was great to work with and never needed to be carried a total pro. It was refreshing to work with the presenter who brought their own ideas to the table. So to Sir Philip Davies and Esther McVey on the superstar panel now, Esther, this shocks me. It really shocks me, what, 14 years ago she used the C word and the BBC is just able to sack her. Wasn't so serious. It'd be hilarious, wouldn't it? I mean, you know, she said a bad word 14 years ago. I bet you there's no proof of that. She threw a pen. I've worked with Kay a long time ago, and I would say she was a total professional. She's bright, she's savvy, she knows what she's doing. But I will also say probably the spineless people at there at the BBC, they wanted her out, and I guess they were digging around, rummaging around to find a way to do it. You know what this reminds me of? It reminds me of Dominic Rob when the civil service was determined to get rid of him. Do you remember he threw a tomato into the bin from his sandwich?

From his Pritz salad. No, Prit sandwich, wasn't it? Yeah, he might have said something to a civil servant in a harsh tone and might have used a sort of a harsh word. I mean, grow a backbone, please. Yes, it's so true. This is, as you say, you know, a frantic frenzylimate. newsroom where you're sort of working to the moment.

No, I think her time was up. They wanted to get shut of her, and it all seems to me pretty fabricated, which is desperately sad because she deserves far more than that. She is a great journalist. Where did you work with her, Esther? Was it GMTV? Gosh, no, quite a few things.

So, one, it was an evening debate show. It was a regional TV. and then on, I think it was ITV. There's a couple of programs I've worked on because I go back right the way through to, I'm just sort of thinking of early 1990s. So along the way, we would have sort of cross paths, as it were. Yeah, I've always liked her, you know,

and I don't share her politics. That's the thing. That's what's interesting about this to me, so Philip Davies. She's a, you know, sort of centrist, yeah, but a centrist left. Do you know what I mean? She's not on the crazy hard lift, but she certainly fits what you thought the BBC would want.

So that's what is so bizarre about this, Philip. It's absolutely bizarre. I mean, I know there is a lot of wokeism about now, and if anyone does anything, somebody's absolutely desperate to take offence. I know that happens more and more, but this seems very, very bizarre. I think it's Toby Young that coined the phrase,

outrage archaeologists digging up stuff from years ago. But when you're digging up stuff that somebody did 14 years ago as an excuse to get rid of them, that it's pretty desperate stuff, isn't it? So I think Esther's right. They obviously decided they wanted to get rid of her, for whatever reason, who knows we could only guess, and that this was the most convenient way of getting rid of her

without getting into a legal battle or whatever it might be over ageism or, anything else for that matter, but it's sad because if it is just an excuse to get rid of her, then, you know, she shouldn't have a reputation tarnish like that just because somebody at the BBC didn't like her face there anymore. I think that's the tragedy of it, all that it tarnishes her reputation. And I tell you, there'll be nobody left in politics if everybody was sacked for what she's been accused of. And if you believe what you read about when Gordon Brown was prime minister, so he'd have been out on his ear in no time

about chucking stuff around and swearing at people so I mean I just think it's pretty pathetic really Well it is because we encourage now a weak victimhood culture and I do imagine that these producers at the BBC would have been young

woke and wet and so they're never hardened up as a result I do think Esther Julia Hartley Brewer made a fair point though I mean come on the BBC is over-correcting here aren't they? Because what they did with Hugh Edwards was effectively cover up for a paedophile, right? Because they knew, they knew for years and years and years. And so now they're so terrified. And we've seen a

couple of instances of this, Esther, like John Turrode, who was the host of Masterchef and a really popular presenter was sacked for rapping the lyrics to a Kanye West song at a post-filming party, which included the N-word. And he was just singing along to the lyrics. So I think there's a ridiculous over-correction going on at the BBC. It's like they harboured Jimmy Saville, they harboured Hugh Edwards, but now, you know, Kay Adams and John Tarot are going to get the boot for doing bugger all. There might be an overcorrection, yes, but equally, I think you're either in the club

or you're not in the club. And Hugh could well have been in the club and therefore they were going to whatever left to protect him. He was in the club and in the closet. Yeah, and if you're not, you're chucked under the boss. So there's definitely that, and she wasn't in the club, nobody was going to protect her and they were looking

for a way to get her out. But I also think that these sort of, as you call them, and I agree with you, those wokey producers who don't like somebody challenging them and questioning. I think that's a really sad state to be in because she is right and very able. And she might have just said to somebody, oh, that's a poor story. Get me something better than that or I've heard that before. Now, that shouldn't be taken as a personal challenge. That is a professional challenge. Your work, that idea wasn't good enough. And what we usually do

then is brainstorm to get something different. But I'm afraid there is a very soft, weak, woke breed who's come in and don't like to be challenged in any which way, but you only get better by challenge. 100%. And there are stressful situations. And look, I know that what we do in broadcasting is nowhere as stressful as what most people have to do in their jobs. But I would like, say, a surgeon in the NHS who's really stressed in the middle of an operation to feel like they could maybe use the C word or flick a surgical instrument. to the other side of the room in a in a in a scalpel yeah yeah not a used scalpel please uh but you know

without feeling like oh my god i'm going to lose my job it's it's but but that is the culture we're now in and i i think it's terrible but look stick around you too because of course we're about to reveal today's worst britain in the world our union jackass but first lots of feedback coming in especially on this issue over iran and restore britain versus reform u k and actually you're very split on this, like 14, Barbara, thank you for the super chat, by the way, 14, says Rupert is right. We need to focus on home, not war. But Simon Brandy takes a different point of view. He says Rupert thought he was playing to his base.

He misjudged how much most want the IRGC smashed. Rosalind Churchill, says, good God, these people are blatant and their disregard for the country, talking about Rachel Reeves. Roseanne Rutherford says they should replace all the migrants in the taxpayer-funded housing with families and working men and women who are in need of affordable housing. Grant MC 100 says it's time we hold MPs personally responsible for immigration and the clear damage it has done for our country. Simon Lass says President Trump keeps his promises. Our Prime Minister does not have an interest in the UK. And Edward Gammon says, can Trump come and

remove Stama from being a dictator in power please? Yeah, that would be popular, wouldn't it? And USC Trojans, 1972, says, happy birthday, Dan. I am happy to share my birthday with a great guy and patriot love from Marina del Rey in California. Well, happy birthday to you, USC Trojans. Yeah, this is a good one, isn't it? It's a good one. We're Pisces babies. Okay.

A reminder of today's Union Jackass nominees, I went for Moten Ali, the Green Party deputy leader, for attending a pro-Aran protest at the weekend. Sir Philip Davies went for Rachel Reeves for her alleged close friendship with Ashth Katana. He says, I have seen this happen in the Labour Party for decades. And Esther McVey nominated Bridget Phillips. And Esther, this was such a shocking story. So what? A school in your constituency has closed because of her VAT decision?

So, at Alderly Edge School for Girls, the parents only got told the end of last week, and it was fundamentally down to an increase of costs. Yes, we had the national insurance increase, but fundamentally down to that VAT imposed on schools, and they couldn't afford it anymore. So I did actually ask a question in the house, as she is personally responsible for this school closing? What is she going to do to help those pupils against this you know, pushing

them out of school and disruption and having to find a new school, particularly when there aren't any places in local schools in that area, state schools, that they can go to, remember, she thought she was going to raise 1.4 billion pounds from this VAT on schools. She thought

she was going to find 6,500 more teachers. It's all collapsed under it. No, it was a vindictive policy against people who wanted choice to send the kids to private schools. We ain't getting those teachers. She ain't getting that money. And all she's doing is closing down good schools. She is a disaster of a Secretary of State.

And it was very vindictive, vicious policy. Just appalling. Just appalling. Okay, the results are in. Unfortunately, Esther, you haven't won, though. Just 4% going for Bridget Phillips. And I haven't won either. Just 15% going for Malton Ali.

This was a massive win for Sir Philip Davies, 81% agreeing with him that Rachel Reeves, Rachel from accounts is today's union jackass. By the way, Esther, Misson Missen has just written into say that he remembers Esther McVeigh and Kay Adams both been presenters on Central weekend on a Friday night. And he said other presenters included Nikki Campbell, Adrian Mills, Roger Cook, and your old mate James Whale. So a lot of good people there. Yes, that was one of the shows we worked on.

And, you know, I was new, I was just cutting my teeth then. I was new coming on board and she was terrific. Yeah, brilliant. And Esther, you are nominating Norman Tebbert as today's greatest Britain. What happened today? Oh, well, this was the service of Thanksgiving for the right honourable, the Lord Tebbert. It happened today at St Margaret's Church in Westminster Abbey. And people talked about how basically he was the group, along with Margaret Thatcher, who turned Britain around.

We were viewed as the sick man of Europe. He got rid of some of the trade union rules, the close shock rules. We got people working. And he was as kind as he was courageous. And people remember that because, obviously, when Margaret, his wife was seriously injured in the IRA bomb in the hotel, he put his own personal ambitions aside and cared for her for 35 years. Till Deathers do part, he absolutely did that, and he was just as loyal to Margaret Thatcher. But he was born after the Great Depression and then sandwiched between that and the Second World War.

He didn't ever get to university, very, very clever, became an RAF pilot and then a pilot. And people say that he was sharp-witted, but his mind was even sharper. Oh, brilliant tribute, a brilliant tribute. Thank you for sharing that. Esther McVeigh, Conservative MP and her husband. But so much more than that. Sir Philip Davies, the conservative dream couple who used to host together on GB News. So it's so great to have you reunited on screen here on Outspoken Today.

Thank you both so much. Happy birthday. Oh, thank you, Philip. Thank you, Philip. Yes, I'm going out to my local Chinese restaurant tonight for a little bit of Chinese. You share a birthday with another great man in Harry Rednapp. It's also his birthday today. I love Harry.

I love Harry. Okay, good. There's a lot of us. There's a lot of us on much for the second. Thank you, Philip. I'll have a drink for you. Yes, do. You can.

I'll be having one too. Trust me. On a Monday night. But you've got to, right? you can do it for my birthday. Esther, Philip, thank you so much. We're moving over to Substack now for the Royal Uncanceled After Show,

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