Dan Wootton Outspoken - RAF FAIRFORD TERRORIST SUSPECTS ON THE LOOSE AS DANNY TOMMO IN PRISON & RESTORE BRITAIN ATTACKED

Episode Date: September 28, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: The UK is under attack from within, with the government covering up the truth of the rumbled mass terror attack at RAF Fairford and up to five suspected terrorists believed to stil...l be on the loose, after the farmer who called the near catastrophic situation to cops speaking out, while Donald Trump gives us updates on the horror situation that our government will not. Oh and guess what the police are telling us to do? Keep our sweet little mouths shut. But what the Prime Minister is prepared to do is commit contempt of court by branding Danny Tommo a racist on the British Bashing Corporation, as the head of the Patriot remains locked up at HMP Winchester ahead of his court appearance tomorrow, with Tommy Robinson revealing how this could become the trial of the decade. But this weekend sadly proved how the violent left are now out of control, with attacks on Restore Britain campaigning in London growing, as Young Bob ended up being the one arrested. Rupert Lowe is now calling on the Prime Minister to intervene. Joining Dan for the entire show today is Ben Habib, Chairman of the Great British PAC. PLUS: GB News caught up in a migrant castration scandal as leftist Matthew Stadlen shops his on screen colleague Hilary Fordwich to the online mob for arguing that all migrants should be castrated on entry to the UK. AND: Mark Dolan’s Talk TV show axed after one year, as the channel enters salary negotiations with Julia Hartley Brewer. We’ll reveal why the end of the channel is coming. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Prince Harry’s skydive scam exposed as his week of PR disasters Stateside continue. We’ll team up with the Royal News Network for all the latest. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 593. And breaking right now, the UK is under attack from within, with the government covering up the truth of a suspected, rumbled mass terror attack at RAF Fairford, with more suspects fared to be on the loose. After the farmer, who called the near catastrophic situation to the cops speaking out, that's as Donald Trump provides updates on the horrors. situation that our government will not. The picture I had was three extremely unusual vehicles parked in the middle of our village and a group of unknown men running around. It's such a flash moment of seeing them, but there are definitely more than five, we think,
Starting point is 00:00:48 maybe between eight and ten of them. Working with the British worked out great. It may have been Scotland Yard. I don't know. We worked with a lot of them. We had them underview for a long time, and we got it. Thank you. Are aware of the speculation, but do not comment on operational security matters.
Starting point is 00:01:05 And I know that's a frustrating answer. Yet as we come on air today, the five suspects who were arrested have just been granted bail, while Danny Tomo is locked up in another disgusting display of two-tier Britain. I can confirm that following extensive interviews and inquiries, the five men who were arrested are being released on police bail this afternoon. To be very clear, this does not mean that the investigation is over.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Well, what the hell does it mean? Oh, and by the way, guess what? The main thing the police want us to do is just keep our sweet little mouth shut. Well, fuck that. We've had enough. We would also please ask the public not to speculate, but to follow official channels for all updates.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Thank you. Oh, but by the way, what the Prime Minister is prepared to do is contempt of court by branding Danny Tomo, a racist on the British bashing corporation, even as he remains locked up at HMP Winchester ahead of his court appearance tomorrow, with Tommy Robinson revealing how this could be about to become the trial of the decade. One of the leaders of these protests is a man called Danny Tomo.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Do you think he's a racist? Well, it's hard to conclude that he's anything other than someone. Well, your home secretary said he was. has racist views. I hesitate. This is a political case. He needs to make this into a show trial. That's what I'd be doing, make it into a total show trial. I'd be requesting witnesses like Chavon, Rianna and White's mother,
Starting point is 00:02:40 to come and explain to the jury why people are trying to stop the boats because innocent English girls are getting stabbed three times and Britain and birching and murder. But can I tell you one thing? This weekend sadly proved how the violent left in the disunited kingdom are now out of control and in charge, with attacks on Restore Britain campaigning in London, as young Bob ended up being the one arrested.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah, Bob. Would you like to say anything, mate? Liberate England, yeah? What about yourself? Do you want to liberate yourself? You're looking a bit stuck there, Bob. You're looking at a bit stuck there, Bob. Rupert Lone, now calling on the Prime Minister to intervene. And I am now calling on both the police and the Home Secretary
Starting point is 00:03:54 to stand up and defend our democratic process. It is simply not acceptable to allow a vocus and noisy mob to dictate the way in which this country is governed, and we need to start to stamp down and take control of the situation. Okay, so we've got a huge day. of breaking news and I'm delighted to say that joining me for the entire show is Ben Habib, chairman of the Great British Pack. Also coming up today, GB News caught up in a migrant castration scandal as leftist Matthew Stadlin shops his on-screen colleague Hillary Fordwich to the online mob
Starting point is 00:04:34 for arguing that all migrants should be castrated on entry to the UK. I'm actually all for that by the way because it would stop the boats overnight. The great news is Hillary is going to join us live to respond for the first time. And Mark Dolan's Talk TV show axed after one year as the channel enters salary negotiations with Julia Hartley Brewer will reveal why the end of talk is coming. Then in the Royal Uncanceled After Show on Substack, we're going to team up with the Royal News Network for the big breaking royal news over the weekend, which includes, by the way, Queen Camilla and Prince William fighting back against Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Now, Ben and I have a lot of choice for today's Union Jackass. He has nominated Ed Davy for his pointless Lib Dem conference. He says 72 MPs,
Starting point is 00:05:16 but no political thesis other than playing the buffoon. And also Nigel Farage for campaigning for a general election which isn't declared. I have nominated Matthew Stadlin because he is leading this mob trying to get Hillary Fordwich cancelled by G.B. News. So you can get voting in the live chat on YouTube right now. Do keep your super chats coming in too. But now let's go. We are under attack from within, and as we come on air today, just five men were arrested for suspicion of offences under the Explosives Act and later for preparation for a terrorist act surrounding the suspected plot outside RAF Fairfoot. That is even though the farmer who called into cops the big plot to blow up the base supporting American troops in their war with Iran had spotted many more men. Listen. To be honest, I'm staggered.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And I'm staggered by the whole story. I can't actually believe I'm sitting here telling it. This farmer, speaking on condition of anonymity, is the one who spotted suspicious activity just after midnight yesterday and called the authorities. Five men were arrested under the Explosives Act and then on suspicion of terrorism offences. This lunchtime, police confirmed all five
Starting point is 00:06:38 of British nationals aged between 23 and 24. five and from London. But she said she believes there may have been more men involved. The picture I had was three extremely unusual vehicles parked in the middle of our village and a group of unknown men running around. It is such a flash moment of seeing them, but there are definitely more than five, we think maybe between eight and ten of them. Armed police arrived at the scene and homes were evacuated as a bomb disposal team moved in
Starting point is 00:07:09 to examine the vans she'd spotted. Okay, so let's try and follow this. So the woman who actually called these terrorist suspects to the police says that there were between eight and ten of them, yet only five have been arrested. But of course, of course, what is the police priority? Just telling people like you, people like me, to just shut up, shut up and stop speculating.
Starting point is 00:07:32 We would also please ask the public not to speculate, but to follow official channels for all updates. Thank you. Okay, well, if you, want us to shut up, then I think it is best that you don't leave it to the American President Donald Trump to tell us what is really going on. Okay, it was fantastic. Working with Britain, it was an amazing job. We had them under investigation. They were looking to do big damage to our fort. And working with the British worked out great.
Starting point is 00:08:05 It may have been Scotland Yard. I don't know. We worked with a lot of them. We had them underview for a long time and we got him. Thank you. Yet we have political lightweights and everything but apparent, like Wes Streeting, the Defence Secretary, unable to tell us a thing. It is reported a Plainspotter's Forum had talked about increased security in and around R.A.F. Fairford, last week, were you aware of that? There are lots of people who... Well, no, were you aware of that?
Starting point is 00:08:38 Which bit, the fact that there was speculation or... A Plainspotter's Forum where they exchanged... messages about what's happening at Heathrow and Gapner, there was increased, so there was prime knowledge, wasn't there? It's a feature of living in a democracy that people are free to and do make observations about what's happening in and around our bases around the country. Were you aware of the increase? You are the defence secretary, presumably somebody said,
Starting point is 00:09:03 we can't have something going on down at Fairford, so we're going to put in a few more personnel. You were aware of that, I assume. Aware of the speculation, but do not comment on operational. comment on operational security matters. And I know that's a frustrating answer, but there's a reason we don't comment on operational security matters. And that's because every time we do, we potentially give insights to those who would do us harm. So sounding unusually evasive in answers to your questions, Nick, as a price worth paying to protect the operational security.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Okay, then, in the past two hours, a major update from the police. Of the five men who actually were arrested, all of them. All of them, now free. Released on bail. I can confirm that following extensive interviews and inquiries, the five men who were arrested are being released on police bail this afternoon. To be very clear, this does not mean that the investigation is over. They are subject to stringent conditions on their movement and contact with others. They absolutely remain under investigation as we explore multiple lines of inquiry. So what the fuck is going on then?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Just tell us! I mean, I'm trying to get my head around this. Danny Tomo rotting behind bars at HMP Winchester, yet five terror suspects are free. So did they get the wrong man? Was there no plot after all? Was this a false flag operation as many were claiming over the weekend? And how are we meant to trust anyone in authority? Any of our politicians given this tiny drip, drip of information?
Starting point is 00:10:52 In this update, the police also said they were keeping an open mind on whether there was any foreign involvement. But Iran have denied that. Look. I also know there is significant interest in whether the current geopolitical context has a bearing on this incident. At counterterrorism policing, we are working within this context every single day, and at this stage we are keeping an open mind in this investigation. We have, as you would expect, ensured that our protective security advice and posture remain commensurate to the threat.
Starting point is 00:11:28 But be assured we are considering this from every possible angle, including that this may be actively committed by proxies or individual. either knowingly or unknowingly working on behalf of a foreign state. Okay, okay, well, if this is true, why the hell have you just released all of them? What is going on? And we're in this completely bizarre two-tier world where at the Labour Party conference, this has just happened in the past hour, our home secretary Shibana Mahmood, who you know, I believe, is practicing Tikia, seems to bizarrely boast.
Starting point is 00:12:07 And what is she boasting about? She's boasting about the fact that the suspects are British nationals. The nationalities of those responsible are now known, and they are all British citizens. I can also say that thanks to the excellent work of the Army's explosive ordinance disposal team, the scene is now safe. And the residents of Wellford will shortly be returning home. I thank them for their cooperation. What are you clapping for, you blithering idiots?
Starting point is 00:12:39 We still know nothing. I just want to remind everyone, Axel Ruder Cabana was a British National. So too were the 7-7 bombers. So too were the Manchester Arena bombers. It means nothing because that is how we have degraded our citizenship. As Rupert Lowe posted on X, British nationals arrested at RAA Fairford,
Starting point is 00:13:00 we're told, were they born here, grew up here, family ties here, or were they simply handed a passport and labelled British. He's just added, RAF-based terror suspects released on bail. Danny Tomo remanded behind bars, yet these men are free to walk. I am absolutely astonished.
Starting point is 00:13:14 It's a disgrace. A restored Britain government will crush our two-tier justice system and legally pursue those responsible. Oh, and by the way, Mahmood's situation to all of this today is just to appease the left. She has decided to throw our borders open further. Welcome in all the Afghans,
Starting point is 00:13:32 all of the Palestinians and God knows who else. Genuinely, she's also done that over the past hour. to massive applause at the Labour Party conference. Now Nigel Farad says he was not surprised by the incident before the latest update. He placed the blame, despite their denials, squarely at the doors of Iran. But he also said we deserve to be told the truth about the Fairford bomb planter's identities. Okay, let's watch. I am not the least bit surprised about it.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I have been arguing and warning for years that the IRGC and other citizens, and other subordinates that it has that are active in this country should have been prescribed many, many years ago. And then, earlier on this year, I raised in Prime Minister's questions and in questions with the Home Secretary the fact that I was given intelligence
Starting point is 00:14:26 that the Iranian regime were using the small boats of the Channel to get their operatives into Britain. Spies and potential terrorists. For my troubles, I had the Labour backbenches shouting, shame on you. Now, I also know that over the last few months, there's been a massive intelligence operation going on,
Starting point is 00:14:50 led by counterterrorism, looking at Iranian nationals living in Britain because they feared a bomb plot. And the proof of that is, of course, the President of America saying, we knew this was coming. We knew this was coming. So the authorities have known for some time that was a very, very major threat.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I have said repeatedly that we have to declare a national emergency when it comes to the channel, when it comes to a legal immigration, we've become a soft touch for potential terrorists to come into Britain. As long as the truth of the RAF Fairford plot, we know what our system is now designed to do, import enemies who want to blow us up. Look at this Sunday Times report from the weekend, revealing that the UK gave citizenship to Hamas Chief's Guard, then he plotted terror. We can't know his name. This is Mr. X, who was accused of coordinating anti-Semitic attacks in Europe from the safety of suburban England where he lived with refugee
Starting point is 00:15:47 status. The newspaper reported at the time he was awarded refugee status. It was public knowledge that he had worked for Hania, was the son of another senior Hamas official and had been arrested in Egypt for operating a tunnel allegedly used to smuggle firearms and gold into Gaza. Yet Mr. X was granted sanctuary and apparently able to operate under deep cover as an IT consultant living in the suburbs of a large English city. The married father in his 40s changed his legal name more than once and is not thought to have been a priority for the British security services as he began coordinating with Hamas terrorists on the continent. Yet despite that story, despite that disgrace from our government, from our judiciary, the BBC, obsessed with Danny Tomo. Danny Tomo,
Starting point is 00:16:32 who has been locked up for simply trying to stop a boat owned most likely by people smugglers bringing illegals into our country. Yet on national television, despite the sensitivity of the cases over the weekend, Prime Minister Andy Burnham called him a racist. One of the leaders of these protests is a man called Danny Tomo.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Do you think he's a racist? Well, it's hard to conclude that he's anything other than someone. Well, your Home Secretary said he was. She said he's an outright racist. I hesitate always before I, you know, I've not read everything that he said. I've not followed everything that he's done. So I'm just going to say that because I don't just throw labels on people.
Starting point is 00:17:22 But given everything and the way he's behaving and what he's seeking to whip up, I mean, this is the worst kind of hateful behavior. Israel Levant of Rebel News asked why is the Prime Minister interfering with a case that is before the courts. Tommy Robinson, the Deputy Chief Crown Prosecutor said nobody must comment on Danny Tomo's case as it could sway a jury before the trial. And today we have the Prime Minister of Britain on the BBC calling Danny a racist. And when Burnham asked the public not to speculate about RAA Fairford, Rupert Lowe rightly called him out. Posting didn't stop you calling Danny Tomo a racist and accusing him of the worst kind of hateful behaviour on national television, whilst there's an ongoing case, did it.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Now, Coonsberg asked Burnham about the women of Pittington too. There are, though, as you've said, people who are very worried about what's happening in their own communities. What do you say to the women of Piddington or villagers in Linton-on-Ouse in North Yorkshire who are really worried about their small communities being asked to live side by side with more than 1,000 young men, asylum seekers,
Starting point is 00:18:30 coming to live in their communities? So I've said all the way through, those concerns are understandable and they have to be addressed in whatever solution is finally agreed. There were also concerns expressed about the use of hotels and the reason why the nature of accommodation is changing across the country is because a commitment was given to end the use of hotels and that was what many people were calling for a few years ago. Well no, actually we were calling for the end of the invasion.
Starting point is 00:19:03 It doesn't matter where the criminals are living, does it? Tommy Robinson rightly pointed out. Danny Tomo remanded five terror suspects bailed. Then he delivered this very important update from Tomo, who remember is at this prison, Winchester, Prison HMP, Winchester. And Tommy revealed this potential plan to turn Tomo's arrest into a show trial while also warning members of the Patriot Platform to stay away from the jail and the courtroom too ahead of his crucial appearance which is taking place tomorrow. Quick update on Danny Somer. Danny doesn't want anyone at his court case and he's requested that no one turn up at the prison or disrupt the prison. He's in Winchester prison. Twelve years ago, I spent nine months in Winchester Prison on the main wings. There weren't enough in the symptoms in that prison. It's a catchment area, Portsmouth Southampton and the English lad still had 12 years ago on that now, but it seems Danny is with lads and he's all right. So just to put some of your mind's at ease. Doesn't mean he's totally safe because prison's prison. What it means is he doesn't want to disrupt the jail or the movements of the jail because sometimes that can piss everyone off.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah, because you disrupt visits, you disrupt people's days. They're getting annoyed with the person. Me, I was in social confinement, so it matter how annoyed people are me, yeah? But Danny's not. So that's where we're at. Say away from the jail. I can contact the jail. Danny's family. We don't know how long Danny's been gone. He's up for bail on Tuesday. But if he's gone, Danny is the sole provider. I see a lot of criticism. and people are out if a go-fund me. Danny's going to do a go-fumny. Danny's in jail. We've got to go-fond me for Danny's family and Danny, and to get the best case, seeing, best legal defence, because it might mean the difference between them getting out of jail or getting out of jail. It might mean you get bail, don't get better.
Starting point is 00:20:43 It might mean you win the case or doesn't win the case. And this is a political case. He needs to make this into a show trial. That's what I'd be doing, make it into a total show trial. I'd be requesting witnesses, like Chauvonne, Nian & White's mother, to come and explain to a jury why people are trying to stop the boats, because innocent English girls are getting staffed three times and butch them murder.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I'd also bring the family of the man who was murdered by a terrorist who come out of a hotel. I've been whole with it, or Harley Paul? Stabbed in the shouting about Gaza. British pension, walking down the street in the morning to get his newspaper, get stabbed to death. That's why people want to stop the boats. I'd bring vapid things. I'd bring them all. That's what I'd do. I'd politicise.
Starting point is 00:21:15 They want a political trial. I'll make it political trial. But how can we expect anything to be fair in this Danny Tomo trial, given this is the judge. Tan Ikram, a CBE. He was the dude who denied Tom. Tomo Bale said he was satisfied there is a real possibility of an immediate custodial sentence, and he has a history, according to the mercy and of being placed in politically motivated cases. He sentenced a man to 20 weeks in jail for posting a racist joke and WhatsApp chat.
Starting point is 00:21:44 He led off the only fans girl who threw a milkshake at Nigel Farage. He let off two women for terrorism charged after glorifying the 7th of October massacre. He was himself given a disciplinary after liking a post on LinkedIn, that stated Israel was a terrorist state, although obviously not a crime it did bring into question his impartiality. He was given a CBE by Boris Johnson in the 2022 New Year honours for services to judicial diversity. He has spoken out about what he sees as the problems due to the lack of ethnic diversity in the police and the judiciary. As Reform UK, Shadow Home Secretary Robert Jenrick put it, It Crams should have been dismissed as a judge a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Meanwhile, the violent leftist takeover of the disunited kingdom continued at pace over the weekend with the most horrifying attacks on Restore Britain as Rupert Lowe's party campaigned in Slippery Starmes' former London constituency. And I just find it sickening, the hatred that I saw against a democratic political party. Are you okay? Are you okay? That's my property. Are you... No one fucking monster. No one fucking lost him.
Starting point is 00:23:22 No one's fucking lost him. As usual, though, the police tried to turn the Restore Britain volunteer Lewis Holmes, who remember was physically attacked last week, had boiling water poured over him, and has bravely gone back this weekend, yet they tried to turn him into the bad guy. Refugees are welcome here. Welcome here. Thank you. Five.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Five. Refugees are welcome here. Anti-fascist. If you interrupt the democratic process, this is filmed. You're interrupting the democratic process. Anti-bassies, right? Like I said. Antibuses are welcome here.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Refugees are welcome here. Refugees are welcome here. Refugees are welcome here. Refugees are welcome here. Refugees are welcome here. Stand up to racism are actually boasting about this behaviour posting. We have again disrupted Restore Britain's canvassing session in Camden. A Restore activist punched three of our activists, but has now been arrested.
Starting point is 00:25:25 He is the fascist young Bob. We will drive Restore out of London. But reforms Robert Jenerick rightly backed Restore, writing, I encourage people to vote for our superb reform candidate Pete Reform, but these are dark scenes for our democracy. The police should be protecting Camberts. is not appeasing these feral pro-migrant thugs. Restore, quite rightly, though, wasn't going to be ushered away from its democratic right. And I would argue democratic duty to campaign. So this is what happened next.
Starting point is 00:25:55 You lost that right after the Holocaust, mate. Six million dead. Six million. I'm asking you questions. I remember six million dollars. And I'm asking you questions, why you've counted? Which of these officers? I'm not. How are they to pay them? Nazi scum! Nazi scum!
Starting point is 00:26:23 Out of candor! I will get you out this here, Nick. With none of these officers, Would you to court first? Which one would you to court? Which one of these people? Political literature
Starting point is 00:26:35 Would you? Who do not have rights today? And you are now removing me from the order Doesn't that all the police, not to get rid of the stand-up, the stand-up of what he was seen, Rupert Lowe was so horrified by what he was seen that he actually broke off from his son's wedding to deliver this message to the Home Secretary Shibana MacMood. watched the footage of our very brave canvasser trying to do what is entirely legal in putting pieces of perfectly legal information and documentation through people's doors so
Starting point is 00:27:25 they can make a reasoned selection as to who they wish to vote for. I've seen the police ushering our candidates away and I am now calling on both the police and the Home Secretary to stand up and defend our democratic process. It is simply not acceptable to allow a vocus and noisy mob to dictate the way in which this country is governed, and we need to start to stamp down and take control of the situation and defend people's rights to stand for what they believe in. Restore Britain is not a Nazi party.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Nambay, the UK, The UKIP leader, Nick Tenconi, was also subjected to hard leftist violence. Do you know who this guy is? Do you know he is? We've got a party, a political party in Britain called The Greens, and this is the leader of the Green Party, his name is Zach Polanski. What are you doing? That's pretty mental.
Starting point is 00:28:34 What are you doing? We don't support you. What are you doing? What are you doing? Can we talk over here? Can we talk over here? She just damaged my equipment, right? Hundreds of pounds worth of equipment.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Off our property, don't get my face. She just, she just grabbed my equipment. She just grabbed my equipment and run off. The woman just grabbed my property, hundreds of pounds worth, grabbed it from him and slammed it on the floor. No problem. So you can call 999, you can make a rope. But I can't deal with you guys on this, no.
Starting point is 00:29:09 There's nothing you can do. Nope, because we're just responsible for this building. We're not responsible for upholding the law. We're just responsible for the bylaws that I train station. No, I know. But you've got some, sort of weirdly off of her of protection. No, she said to her she was in danger. She said she was in danger.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I didn't know what's happened before that. I said to her, if you're in danger, you can stand here. That's all I said to her. It's no problem. You understand that. But Nick Tenconi kept going, and the next video is why this work is so important. He posted an invader attempted to ruin our filming today. Turn the camera on these people and watch them run.
Starting point is 00:29:40 We will deport all of them. Watch and listen closely. Sir, can I ask you a question? Yes, sir. Are you a resident of the UK? Sir, are you a resident of the UK? Tell him to stop that, man. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Are you a resident of the UK? No, no. You're not. Are you on a visa? Yeah. You are? What visa are you on? Visa?
Starting point is 00:30:00 Yeah. International. International visa. How did you get here, sir? How did I... I asked him how he got here. He said, I fucked the white man in this country. Sooner's very loud, chirping away, as usual.
Starting point is 00:30:17 As usual, mouth's writing checks, the body can't cash. So let's, we're here filming, we're here campaigning. So let's have a conversation with the brother. Let's have a conversation. How did you get here? And the camera's on first thing, same as what I saw in Calais. No film, no film, no film. How do I get here?
Starting point is 00:30:32 I'm on a visa. Walking away, he's walking away now, the cameras on him. And quote, I come here and I fuck the white man. And here's the thing. We didn't ask for this guys. We're here campaigning. We're here filming. Just lands, boom.
Starting point is 00:30:45 The audacity. the effrontery to start chirping to one of my security guards. No one asked him anything. The absolute effrontery. And then when confronted, they run. Do you know what? My grandma always used to use the term God's punishment. Like if you had done something like a little bit wrong,
Starting point is 00:31:05 committed some little sin, and then would be struck down with a minor ailment, she'd say it was God's punishment. And I have to admit, I did think of her when I saw one of the hard-lifted as nutters, nutters who were hounding, restore and Nick Tenconi taken out by a tree. I'm going to say it, God's punishment. Let's watch that again. Now, you see earlier those leftists were boasting about causing the arrest of young Bob, but I would argue that they have to accept that their criminal
Starting point is 00:31:51 and their violent behaviour sometimes will cause a response. So this is what happened. Look, So you can see quite clearly, the leftist was the one who committed criminal damage and then Bob pushed back. That resulted in the arrest of, you guessed it, young Bob. Look. Yeah, Bob, would you like to say anything, mate? Liberate England. Liberate England, yeah? What about yourself?
Starting point is 00:32:27 Do you want to liberate yourself? You're looking a bit stuck there, Bob. You're looking a bit stuck. These people need to be lost street. He was soon released, though, with all charges dropped. And he wrote, we've just been released from Charing Cross Police Station with no further action after not one member of stand up to racism was willing to provide their details or give a statement. I guess that's what happens when you've been utterly embarrassed by,
Starting point is 00:33:19 young Bob, let's defeat stand up to racism and restore Britain. But he added, this last month has really radicalised me. We had a left-wing parliamentary group supported by the Labour Party attempt to fight and chase out canvases. I've travelled throughout the country to different university campuses where all I've been met with is people just to find someone being shot in the neck, whilst being absolutely clueless about demographic replacement. I'm six foot two, by all accounts, I should be incredibly intimidated. That's why at any protest or campaign trial, I'm at with Antifa, I won't be holding a camera and filming, I'll have my arms free and make my boundaries very clear. Essentially, this month has taught me that debating only gets you so far.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Train more, start fighting back, and that is how we're going to take our country back. Now, we also saw this weekend an astonishing scene at the Together for Children Gathering. Now, this was an amazing event for survivors. I was watching Ayy Audits live stream. Chauvin White and Rianne White's sister gave the most. powerful speech and so too did Stephen Eldridge whose daughter was groomed by the rape gangs. Yet he was arrested after apparently using a racial slur to describe the men who abused his daughter. So one day I received the call from my wife.
Starting point is 00:34:40 No one wants to receive. Stephen, Morgan's missing. To be honest, I ship self. I'm going to find her. Where is she? Well, where she was was in a flat with two Pakistani men. She was 14 years of age and she'd been groomed over the space of weeks. So I raced in my car, I got there, found my pal, went to the flat. Now I'm going to tell you now, people come at me, I am an ex-convict, I am an ex-addict, but I've changed my ways. I go back to church and I say my prayers and I give everything to society.
Starting point is 00:35:14 So I'm no longer, you can no longer point at us. And I can say racist, criminal. You can say nothing if we own it. So I knocked the door. They opened it a crack. And I'll smash their fucking heads in. And that's what I've done. Because if you call the police,
Starting point is 00:35:34 they will arrest me for aggravated burglary. And I will be doing five years in prison for some dirty Pakistani mucked. Excuse my language. Now look, maybe it wasn't a smart choice of work. But this reaction from the police, given who Eldridge is and what he was talking about, was completely over the top. Look, he was arrested and led away. Oh, that bollocks again.
Starting point is 00:36:05 We all know what's going on. Political prisoner? Where? Traders. The police in the van. The process is the punishment. Trison! And now Ben Habib, of the great British pack.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Ben Habib, wow, I mean, what are two days? What a crazy couple of days. But Ben, we've got to return to this breaking story of RAA Fairford and the fact that these terrorist suspects, Ben, have now been released on bail, while Danny Tomo remains in prison, the Sun newspaper has reported in the past few moments that materials found in the vans outside RIA Fairford are, quote, not viable explosives.
Starting point is 00:37:08 If that's the case, is that a good enough reason to release them on bail? I mean, something was going on. Well, it sounds like they're not very good bomb makers if it's not viable material, but it's material nevertheless. I think the giveaway for me in the police spokesman and what the police spokesman said when he was announcing them being released on bail
Starting point is 00:37:28 was that inquiries will still continue. Now, if these people were suspected of terrorism wanting to bomb RAA Fairford, then while inquiries are continuing, they should be detained. The terrorism legislation that we have, put in place by Tony Blair, much of which I disagree with,
Starting point is 00:37:46 allows the police to do that. It gives them exceptional powers to detain these people until inquiries are exhausted. If there is material, whether viable or not, if an inquiry is continuing, then these people must surely be continued to be detained. To put five potential terrorists back into the community to create perhaps a viable device this time is utter madness. It is insane. But Ben, I feel like this whole. whole weekend has been insane.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Because it's like, why are we hearing about this being from Donald Trump? Every single story. Yeah, I mean, every single story you've gone through this evening, Dan, is insane. And they all come, I think, fundamentally from a governance system, our institutions completely being hollowed out and failing to understand what it is they must do for the protection and security of this country. all the way from obviously illegal migration to not being able to tackle these would-be terrorists to the shutting down of the democratic process.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And I would actually go further and say the harassment of people wishing to exercise the democratic rights, which, by the way, is a breach of the universal declaration of human rights. You're allowed to practice your political beliefs. I would say that everything we're seeing is symptomatic of the institutions of this country, turning its back on the obligations that they have to the British people and to this country. That's what we're seeing right across the board. And what about the treatment of Danny Tomo? So this is really interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:39:31 He wasn't detained or charged for putting lives in danger by stabbing that diggy. He was charged for criminal damage. And the question that really comes to the foremost part of my mind is who was he damaging? the would be, not would be, the people smugglers, who owns that dinghy? Who was suffering this damage? And a hornet's nest may have been opened, which I hope will reveal the sickness at the heart of our judicial system. Because if he can be charged with criminal damage, then it is someone's property that our
Starting point is 00:40:07 system is protecting. In this case, it would appear to be the people smugglers property that our system is now moving to protect. A dingy that should never have come into our territorial waters, presumably owned by these people smugglers, is now putting Danny Tomo behind bars because he slashed their dingy. And I want to see the criminal justice system reveal the individual or the group of people they claim have been damaged by Danny Tomo's actions. That's going to be, Tommy Robinson didn't mention it. I don't think anyone's really focused on other than perhaps Sarah White, who's made this point very pertinently, repeatedly on social media.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Whose property was he damaging? That's what Danny Tomo really needs to attack. Who was I damaging? This was a dingy that shouldn't be in the United Kingdom in the first place. And the fact that he should be arrested on it. And the fact that the Prime Minister and Shabana Mahmuth should take the opportunity to question his, you know, accuse him of being a racist, which is actually not anything to do with this case,
Starting point is 00:41:11 nothing to do with wishing to protect this country from illegal migration, whether you're a racist or not, is academic when it comes to wishing to protect the country from illegal migration. But they go down that route because they want to rubbish Danny Tomo. And you made the very pertinent point that they won't talk about Axel Ruda-Kabana for fear of damaging his case. They won't allow us to talk about what's happening in RAFF for somehow, fearing somehow that we'd undermine the judicial process that may take place there. But they're prepared to undermine this man standing. in court by the prime minister, no less, calling him a racist.
Starting point is 00:41:46 What chances this man got of a fair trial if the prime minister of this country is effectively directing the judicial system to take this man as a racist at day one? A huge new lift as civil war has broken out behind the scenes at GB News after that rat, and he has been described to me, by the way, as a rat. by senior sources at G.B. News, Matthew Stadlin, is on a cancellation campaign against one of his fellow on-screen stars. Now, this is the brilliant Hillary Fordwich. She is going to join us for the first time to talk about this growing online scandal. And it was after she made, I thought, a very sensible suggestion, actually, on Ben Leo's GB News show to castrate migrants who,
Starting point is 00:42:43 enter our country. Now, the thing is, whether you'd actually ever have to do it, I would say is not really the point, because it would be the ultimate way to say, don't even think about it. Do not even think about it. If you step foot illegally in our country via the channel, you're castrated. You can't rape our women. In fact, you can never have sex with anyone again. Surely it's at least something we need to be debating. But when Hillary raised that point on the G.B. News show, Matthew Stadlin, who was literally sitting there alongside her, decided to set off the left wing wolves. And I know what that's like. He posted on Exa Contender for the most shocking and revolting comment ever expressed on British television with Narenda Kour also weighing in. Well,
Starting point is 00:43:32 do you think it's the most shocking and revolting comment ever made on UK television? I don't want to take it out of context. I want you to watch for yourself and be the judge before we speak to Hillary. Hillary, good evening to you. Your thoughts on this? Well, I'm telling you, I think one of the things that he was talking about when he said about the migrants is, I've said this before, why on earth do we have the pull factors and we need to have more deterrence? Actually, given the precedence of lots of these men and what they've done in our nation, what if instead of the pull factors, what if we would say anyone that's seeking asylum needs to be castrated due to all the rapes that are being committed? That certainly would be a matter. What, all of them? Yes, because that's a deterrent.
Starting point is 00:44:14 But not every asylum seeker is a sex offender. Well, no, but there's lots of them before that have been. If you did something like that, they certainly would not be coming. I mean, but, Henry, that sounds a bit bonkers. I love you, but you can't preemptively castrate all asylum seekers. Why not? They're invading narration. Matthew, your thoughts? I'm sorry, I'll leave it to you, Ben.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I've never seen you shocked by something someone on your inverted commas side of the argument has said on GB News. I've got nothing to say to that. I'll leave it to you, mate. I think she was joking around anyway. It's she, the cat's mother, Hillary. Matthew... They certainly wouldn't be coming. Michael Thor posted,
Starting point is 00:44:53 I'm calling on Offcom and Lisa Nandi to immediately investigate GB News and the panel member who spoke about physically abusing asylum seekers. It's sickening that a so-called news channel can get away with these comments. And when Don McGowan posted Ben Leo immediately realized that Offcom
Starting point is 00:45:11 will be investigating this and panicked, GB News strive for controversial views to attract their audience, but Hillary Fordwich was so unbelievably out of line, she should be removed from broadcast lineups forever. Grin, actually, it was a woman who gave him a reality check. As the only female on the panel, she made a valid point based on the safety of women and children. And it is interested, isn't it? You look at that lineup, you've got Hillary versus four men telling her, oh no, don't worry. Don't worry, it's all going to be okay. Now, Hillary is with us now. And she is no shock, by the way, just to be clear, Hillary is a former head of KPMG Global
Starting point is 00:45:52 BD. She leads consulting firms and combines international network media and BD expertise, as well as being a devoted mother. And I said over the week in Hillary, because it was just so coincidental. You were on outspoken for the first time last week. Our audience adored you. And I said, well, you're certainly never going to be cancelled here. But take me through it, Hillary. Where do you stand on this from your point of view? And most importantly, do you stand by your comments? Well, thank you, Dan, for giving me the opportunity
Starting point is 00:46:26 being the very good and decent man and man that's committed and loyal to also our country that you will give me this opportunity. I will say the publication that also ran with it, they reached out to me for comment on a Saturday morning and then published it within a few hours without even waiting for me to get back to them. I don't know about you, but I'm always very booked,
Starting point is 00:46:47 and I was very booked. I didn't see the email for hours. So that wasn't very, I would thought, professional of them. Now with regard to the comment, it was in the context, yes, of the invasion, let me repeat that, the invasion of people that are coming to the UK, that are coming, as we can see from this photograph here,
Starting point is 00:47:05 they're not coming necessarily. Maybe some of them are coming, but where from are they coming from war, Tongue countries, no. If they were concerned about their families, they'd be bringing their wives, their mothers, their children, they're not, they're fighting age men. And I, two things, would like, three things I'd like to say, but two things in particular, one, I have gone through something, admittedly haven't been raped, thank goodness, but the PTSD from something horrific that I only just happened to see an experience that, for me, if that's just what I saw,
Starting point is 00:47:37 goodness gracious how anybody who's ever been raped, let alone the families, how they feel. So what I would like to do, Dan, is to defer to, and I think the kind of people we should be interviewing and speaking to are those that are the relatives of and the families overall in general and the victims of over 250,000 rapes in the UK. I think we should hear their voices as to what do they think? Do they think that that would have helped? And you think about it, we don't let lions at the zoo run. around. Why do we keep them behind cages? Why do we put them behind bars? Why do we do some of the things we do?
Starting point is 00:48:12 It is to protect people in society. I think the role of the government should be one thing, and that is to protect citizens. We're not protecting citizens or these rapes and these rape gangs would not occur. So I think, yes, we have to reduce the pull factors because quite frankly, Dan, if they were just seeking asylum, why don't they stop at any of the other safe countries throughout Europe? Why an earth come to the UK. It's the poor factors and there are zero deterrence. There need to be deterrence. And maybe it's not that. But at least if nothing else, what I hope my comments did was to bring light and shine light on a ghastly dreadful situation. It may not be the solution, but we need to do something to act as a deterrent. Now, Hillary, have you heard from GB News? Because unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:49:01 they do have a terrible track record on this front, Hillary, of I mean, I know all too well, of walking away from people the moment that the situation gets a little bit hot. Have you heard from channel executives or presenters? And are they supporting you through this? Well, I have to say, you saw on set there, Ben Leo. And if I could just make note of both Ben Leo and Bev Turner that are the hosts, they are such thoroughly good people. Yes, they are. They are good people on air.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Yes, Dan. They're good on air. They're good in person and private. And I will tell you, they're good. consider it, and it's not just me coming on set, they're consider it, and you know this from being in studios, there's the cameramen, there's the people that set up the studio, there's the makeup lady, all the people, they treat everybody wonderfully, so they're very good people. The team and the staff at G.B. News are very good people, the way they treat people. And I go on some other
Starting point is 00:49:52 networks, and I can tell you, it's not universally like that. Yes. Now with regard to, so I was supposed to be on on Saturday night, and I totally understand that they, you know, wanted to let this calm down. And so Saturday night, luckily I had a fantastic invitation to do something actually quite spectacular. So I was actually kind of delighted. Didn't matter on Saturday night. But it remains to be seen. I never want to put G.B. News or anybody for that matter in a sticky, you know, wicket kind of situation at all, I want to do the right thing. But I also want to do the right thing by those girls, by our nation, by what's happened to the country that I grew up in that is unrecognizable. And I wouldn't mind if people, look, there are immigrants. They've been
Starting point is 00:50:34 immigrants for centuries. I think I'm an immigrant to the United States. I came legally. My family went through the legal process. I think people in America seem to forget that like there was a time when people would arrive at Ellis Island, the entry point for immigrants. They would be turned around down if they had so much as one piece of lice in their hair. This is how things used to be. And there's been immigrants throughout many centuries to the UK. And they've come legally, legally. Hillary, Ben Habib of the Great British Pack is with us too. And Ben, you sort of know all about these situations, don't you?
Starting point is 00:51:11 Because you actually had a very similar experience when you were on talk TV. This was before the last election and you were actually the deputy leader of Nigel Farage's Reform UK party at the time. And you were in a debate with Julia Hartley Brewer. Again, about this very issue, right? about trying to stop people coming to this country. And you made the point, well, we need to let the people in the channel drown. But of course you were not saying you actually wanted to see people die.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Again, it was about making this fundamental point about push-pull factors. And just like with Hillary, what happened? Everything exploded. Because it's so much easier, isn't it, to focus on the so-called outrageous comment. Whereas I think the outrage is that we are allowing murderers and rapists and terrorists into our country every single day. but Ben, given you were in a very similar situation, I just wonder, firstly, what your take on the situation with Hillary is
Starting point is 00:52:03 and what your advice to her would be in terms of how to deal with this. Yes, please. I don't know if I've got any pertinent advice. But what I can say, that Hillary is absolutely spot on when she says that it's not good enough, simply to remove the pull factors, which, by the way, we've never done, and I don't think we've got even the political willpower
Starting point is 00:52:22 to remove the pull factors. We must have a deterrent. And that, frankly, was the point I was making to Julia Hartley-Bruhe when she said, what I said, and I still hold by this, that any dinghy seeking to enter our territorial waters illegally, should be intercepted by the Royal Navy or border force, and should be prevented from passing and required to go back to France. And she made the point that, you know, what if someone in the dinghy stabs their dingy and they all end up in the drink? And I said, well, give them another dingy, put them all on it.
Starting point is 00:52:52 One, you know, one brush with the North Sea, I think we'll get them back to France pretty down quickly. She said, well, what if they stab that dinghy? Would you let them drown? And I said, well, if they go on putting themselves in harm's way, having put themselves in the channel, of course, in the first place, and then they stab repeatedly the dinghies that are given them to rescue them, then they must suffer the consequences of their own decisions. And this is also something, by the way, it's a tangential point, but it is something we've forgotten in the United Kingdom. The people must be allowed to make decisions for themselves and suffer the consequences of them. And if these people want to put themselves in harm's way, then so be it.
Starting point is 00:53:31 It's not for the British state to forcibly rescue them against their will. It's for them to make the decisions that they make. But just coming back to what Hillary is now experiencing, it's going to continue. People like Matthew Stadlin get a real kick out of this. When I said what I said on talk TV, you know, he'll just go on milking it for as many clicks he can get on social media. But I would say to Hillary, stand firm, you're perfectly well within your rights to say there must be a deterrent. Whether you choose castration, interception of the boats, permanent incarceration, detention, put on an island, as Rupert Lowe says, with the midges, and then send people, whatever that deterrent is.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Yeah, whatever, whatever that, there's got to be a deterrent. It can't just be the removal of the pull factors. 100%. But by the way, Hillary, I do want to ask you about Matthew Stelling, because as I say, a senior GB news source actually described him to me as a rat, because it was him posting that clip, Hillary, which caused all of this, specifically designed to get you cancelled. And it was a very similar situation as to what I went through with the whole Lawrence Fox, Ava Santina thing. This is a left-wing-driven campaign. But are you shocked, given he's someone who actually takes money
Starting point is 00:54:52 from the station, because no other station will have him, Hillary. You know, he's not wanted by the BBC or LBC. So he's desperate. He's a total desperado type guy. Yet GB News keeps on putting him on. And here he is trying to damage you. What's your take on Matthew Stadlin after he's done this? Well, I'm going to address Matthew Stadlin.
Starting point is 00:55:16 If I could just say one other thing with regard to the issue. I actually have a question for everybody who thinks, this is fine. Why an earth did we fight the First World War and the Second World War? Why? Why didn't we just let them invade? Why? Totally. I couldn't agree more. Why not? And why, by the way, we could have given the Nazis free four-star hotels, some free food, some money on a debit card as well. Why didn't we do that? Gosh, I wonder. So that's the issue. But now with regard to your question, Dan, about Matthew Stadlin. Well, first of all, I actually respect G.B. News in in terms of having a balanced panel. Certainly, British taxpayers are spending money on their
Starting point is 00:55:57 licenses, a TV licenses for the BBC to not have such balance. So I think it's very good that there is balance. I think it's very admirable to have balance. He is universally across, I mean, just because as an individual, he's rude. I will tell you, in direct contrast, only because he was on that panel. Malley Smith, he was on that panel that night. You can see him there. He is completely liberal as well. But he's not rude. He's a gender. He's a young gay man. So he has completely different views than me on absolutely everything. But he's still a gentleman.
Starting point is 00:56:29 We can we can have a cordial, very cordial conversation and disagree. But as I say, he's polite and gentlemanly like Matthew Stadlin and I, you use the word rat that other people have used. I would just describe him as exceptionally rude. And yes, I find it beyond ghastly that he's chosen to make a lot of money over trying to be. get me cancelled. We shall see what happens. But I think he's the one that has to get up in the morning, look in the mirror. And I don't know whether he has relatives or knows anyone that died in the Second World War. Why? And I don't think he studied his history very much, because basically he does agree with the First and Second World War what the Nazis were doing, because
Starting point is 00:57:10 that's the same thing. Probably even some regards, it might have been better. Maybe they wouldn't gone around raping people. Well, as I say, it was a senior G.B. News source who described him as a rat to me. That was their word coming from within the channel. When I was at G.B. News, I refused to have him on my show. I refused to be in the same room as him. I was at G.B. News, I think for three years, he did not appear on one edition of my show. Because I completely agree with you, Hillary. There are leftists who are decent, and you can have a decent conversation, a decent argument with them. And I do understand G.B. News had to follow the off-communist guideline. So, you know, I was the first to put decent leftists on the channel, right?
Starting point is 00:57:54 And it wasn't easy because some of them turned out not to be decent. Okay, Narenda Kaur is one example, and I apologise to the world for that. But we had to keep finding people. But I knew Matthew Stadden was not a decent man, and I would not have him on. But look, Hillary, shame on GB News if they don't have you back, but we want you on outspoken more. So actually, I just think it's a great thing, because you can hopefully start coming on outspoken more, given you are truly outspoken, and then you don't have to be limited by
Starting point is 00:58:23 all of the terrible off-communist peace police policemen. So we hope to see you very, very soon. That is Hillary Fordwich. And do make sure that you subscribe to Hillary Fordwich on YouTube, and she is all across it. Just a reminder, by the way, as well, Matthew Stadlin is Jewish. So that in some ways makes the situation even more shocking. Breaking right now, the Mark Dolan show, axed by Talk TV, as the News UK broadcaster starts to wind down its operations. Now, this is a story you know I have been on for some time. I do not celebrate what is coming with the end of TV, with Talk TV, but I will tell you the story about what is really going on here, because it also involves the star presenter at the channel Julia Hartley Brewer.
Starting point is 00:59:20 But we also have to be honest about Mark Dolan's announcement because he wanted to make it appear as if this was his choice. He was walking away from the mainstream media to focus on the independent sector. That simply isn't true. Mark Dolan works for the Daily Express, works for Sly News in Australia. He is someone who, even after he departed GB News and launched his own YouTube channel, felt much more confident and safe in the mainstream media bubble. Now, he also always makes a habit of praising the people who have just got rid of him,
Starting point is 00:59:53 which is bizarre to me. He did the same thing with GB News, but maybe it's his schick. So here's how he made the announcement. Hello, I'm in a hotel room somewhere. And I've lost count of the number of people that have emailed me or messaged me through X, Instagram and Facebook, or via my YouTube channel about Talk TV. You've all been asking, where is Mark? Why isn't he broadcasting on talk at the moment? What is going on?
Starting point is 01:00:21 So I've been on air hosting the weekend breakfast show from 6am to 10am every Friday, Saturday and Sunday for the last 12 months. And it's been one of the best jobs of my career, if not the best, for three reasons. First of all, because talk management are brilliant people and they are incredibly supportive of their presenters. there is no censorship. The second reason is the amazing team behind the scenes. The producers, the engineers, the vision mixes, the call screeners, the admin staff, many of whom are friends for life.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Dolan then suggested he wanted to focus on his YouTube channel, which again doesn't make sense because he stopped focusing on his YouTube channel in order to go and join Talk TV. But this is what he said. And what's happened is that I've seen extraordinary growth in the Mark Dolan's on YouTube. We are currently reaching six and a half million people a month in the United Kingdom, in the Republic of Ireland, across Europe, South Africa, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and our biggest markets by an order of magnitude, the United States. So the Mark Dolan Show has broken
Starting point is 01:01:37 America. And therefore, whilst I was away in the state doing daily videos for my YouTube channel, all of which were going crazy viral, I realised that this project is going to need my time and energy. Indeed, he says he now wants to be the number one talk show in the world while continuing to work for MSM outlets like The Daily Express. And we have a simple goal, which is to be the number one talk show in the world. And YouTube is where it's. at. I'm a person of huge ambition and I don't only want the Mark Dolan show to be the number one show in the world. I want to be the number one broadcaster in the world. And I'll get there. Just watch me. But I won't be able to do it without you. So check out the Mark Dolan show. Keep reading my columns
Starting point is 01:02:27 in The Daily Express. Keep watching The Daily Expresso and all of my other media projects. And who knows? Perhaps there is a massive platform out there that will host my elite-level current affairs commentary because I suspect that there are many people who would like to have more Dolan's dispatches, more interviews and more political truth bombs alongside the entertainment and royal gossip of the Mark Dolan show on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:02:57 See, that's what I don't understand. Mark is there pitching himself to another mainstream media outlet to host him, if you're so confident about what you do, why not do it all on YouTube and be completely free of the bosses who do constrain you and do constrain what you say? I mean, just look at Talks' terrible treatment lately of Andre Walker, who they haven't taken back, who they haven't supported after his court case. But there is a much bigger story going on here. I've been across it for some time. And the confirmation of Mark Dolan's replacement confirms that,
Starting point is 01:03:28 because you would be thinking, well, are they going to go for a massive name? Are they going to re-signed David Bull or I don't know get someone who's got to shock everyone. No, no, no, no, no. They have gone for this man, who I've never heard of, called Duncan Bucks, who has just announced, I'm pleased to confirm that I will be joining the Talk TV schedule from this weekend to host weekend breakfast every Saturday and Sunday. Expects strong opinions, top political guests and hot takes on the news. Now, this might be a lovely man, okay? But Duncan Bucks is not a big name, and he is a cheap signing. And much of what Talk is doing at the moment is about reducing costs
Starting point is 01:04:07 because fundamentally they are unable to operate as a business after Pears Morgan got them to waste 150 million pounds plus to turn Talk Radio, which was a very successful station. Remember, I take no pleasure in this. I worked at Talk Radio. I was there hosting the Drive Time show through all of 2020 when we were really the only people fighting against lockdown. Talk was a really important station at that point.
Starting point is 01:04:33 But then Pearce Morgan came along, took over the whole thing and destroyed it and wasted a huge amount of money at the same time. So now they are just desperately trying to keep cost low at any cost. And that's where Julia Hartley-Bruer comes in because my source who told me that Mark Dolan was axed from the station also revealed that Julia is also in salary negotiations and that there is a rumor that she also wants out of the station. Now, that would make sense, given a new report in Private Eye magazine this week, that placed Julia Hartley-Bruer in the offices, the High Street Kensington offices of a certain Ted Verity.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Ted Verity, who happens to be the editor of the Daily Mail. So Julia and I respect her for this, is either doing one or two things. She's either trying to get a new job, right? She wants out of talk, or she's doing the smart thing, which is, oh goodness, they're about to sack me, I'm going to show that my main rival wants me, and actually they're going to have to pay me lots more money. Oz Osbourne, who runs a very good substack on the British media, has written a smart column, actually, very smart column about Mark Dolan and what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I want to take you through it. And he writes, Mark Dolan, who had been the immediate stand-in for Dan Wooden after his suspension from GB News, has followed Whitten to the independent media world. But he adds, to be more accurate, he hedged his bets presenting a breakfast show on talk following Mike Graham's suspension and presenting the weekend breakfast show for a year, while still making the Mark Dolan show for YouTube. He was seen by mainstream producers and management as a safe pair of hands for covering shows. I mean, I described him maybe slightly cruelly as management's bitch, because he was the one who sort of GB News sent out to slam Lawrence Fox and I the day that we
Starting point is 01:06:23 had been suspended. Announcing his departure from talk, he sets out an ambitious vision for how Biggie wants his YouTube to be, but there's no burning of the bridges with the talk team. Dolan has built a sizable audience already on YouTube, so it is perhaps not surprising that for whatever reason. He's now focusing on that as his primary outlet, but he's continuing to appear on Daily Expresso from the Daily Express and guesting on other shows. There was a substack, Mark Dolan, but that seems to have been mothballed for now at least. Talented as he is, I've not found a Dolan format that works for me as a listener, but prefer him being interviewed or on a panel rather than being the presenter. Format-wise, I think he could trim his show down easily as they run to an hour.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Daily Expresser was under the half-hour mark and I'd say that's about right for Dolan's show too when he adds a monologue to the proceedings. Then naturally, there's a longer runtime. Here's the thing, though. When announcing his departure from talk, he had said almost the same thing when he left GB News a couple of years ago, but he still returned to the mainstream within months at talk. He's got to earn a living. I get it, but I can't shake the feeling that YouTube was a continuity channel for him back then, And I think collaborations are key now in the independent media space. If you take Dan Witten and Mike Graham, both former mainstream presenters who have embraced the independent space and grafted to make their channels successful or the likes of Pears Morgan,
Starting point is 01:07:36 who is no longer mainstream but not truly independent either. Whether you like the Pugnacious panel format or not, you can't argue with his viewing figures. And it should be noted that Morgan was hoping to receive 100 million pound valuation on his uncensored business and won a large investment from the US at the end of last year. I mean, he's actually now saying it's worth $1 billion. Calvin McKenzie writes that Morgan makes a tidy sum since going independent, with Morgan building a business of this size based entirely on him. He's replicating former mainstream show hosts Dan Bongino and Megan Kelly's successes in the US and his show Quartz American viewers also.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Dolan says he has a large following in the US, so he could do well. The old adage is true. If you make it in America, you've made it. What puzzles me, though, is this. The Mark Dolan Show already achieves over 200,000 views regularly on YouTube. He's presuming making a good money deal on that if we take McKenzie's larger figure for Morgan as a guide. I'm not sure I'd have given up a weekend lion to present a breakfast show on talk if the golden goose was YouTube. With more focus earlier on the independent YouTube show, Dolan would have been a year further down the road towards global domination. And Ben Habib, look, this is the issue with me, and I know you're a regular on talk, and no one wants to
Starting point is 01:08:48 see it go. It's just that seems to naturally be where News UK is taking it. That just slowly driving this channel into the ground. But I think the problem for me with the likes of Dolan is that he is sort of hedging his bets. And fundamentally at some point, Ben Habib, as a broadcaster, I'm not saying as a politician, as a politician, you've got to go wherever the audience is. But as a broadcaster, you've got to make a choice. If you truly believe in the independent sector, Ben, then you have to turn your back on mainstream because of how terrible it is. And for me, when I made my decision to go independent, that meant cutting off mainstream altogether. I'm not going to go on the BBC and be cannon fodder for them or a pair as a guest on Wokai TV or GB News or anywhere,
Starting point is 01:09:33 because I don't believe in that. I will support other independent broadcasters in this space, whereas Mark Dolan seemed to be hedging his bets. But do you feel sad, Ben, to sort of see this once great station in talk slowly but surely seem to be, just chip, chip, chip to weigh up. What do you make of it all? Yeah, so, I mean, I'm in it for the political message. And for me, any reduction in channels that get our message out is a shame. But I am also a businessman. And I know that there are essentially two kinds, very broadly two kinds of people in business, those who wish to be employed and those who are prepared to go out and set up their own businesses, take risks,
Starting point is 01:10:16 invest money and possibly fail. And both are perfectly valid ways to go about making a living. Some don't have the risk tolerance that it takes to go out and perhaps become a complete independent. I take my hat off to you and Mike Graham and others who were in mainstream employment, who had the comfort of a salary, but you had the backbone to get up and go and do something else
Starting point is 01:10:42 when that system turned this back on you. You've actually made a huge success. of what it is you're now doing. And you still, for those of us on our side of the political spectrum, you provide a platform which gives us voice where these other channels won't. So, I mean, I like Mark. I do hope he succeeds in one shape or form or another.
Starting point is 01:11:02 And I hope that we don't see a reduction in the number of channels that are speaking sense to people. We need much, much more of it. But I will just say, before I stop, that I am hugely impressed by you, if I may say so, Dan, and Mike and others, who do take it upon yourself to set up your independent channels, to make the capital investment that's required, to face the opprobrium that you no doubt suffer day in, day out because of the platform that you provide to people like me and
Starting point is 01:11:32 others, and that you do it fundamentally, not just to make money, but fundamentally to help this country go in the right direction. So I applaud all of you. I wish you all the very best of luck, and I hope Mark lands on his feet. Absolutely. And it's not easy. And by the way, I completely agree with you. Mark Dolan has a mortgage to pay, has a wife, and has a family to feed. So I'm absolutely not saying that I judge people who appear on the mainstream media or take mainstream media money.
Starting point is 01:12:05 I would be such a hypocrite to do that. I guess I'm just talking about my own personal experience, which is that it is necessary to be truly independent, I mean. mean, Ben, to be truly independent, it is necessary to be out of the clutches. And I'll explain why, but you understand this. You know, I've worked for all of these billionaires, Ben, over many years, you know, Rupert Murdoch for many years, Lord Rothermore for many years, Paul Marshall more recently at GB News. And the problem is, that means if you want to take a truly independent stance, you can't always do that. And we've seen GB News in recent years, and you have been a victim of this personally because you're banned from that station now, even though you used to be when I was there
Starting point is 01:12:48 one of the most popular guests and had a regular slot on Michelle Joubri's top rating show. But they have made a decision, Ben, that is higher than any individual presenter to say, we're going all in on Reform UK and Nigel Farage. And so if you still want to be a presenter at that station, you have to go along with that. And sure, people can push back in little ways and, But you understand fundamentally what I'm saying. You're 100% right. And it's a tragedy really with G.B. News
Starting point is 01:13:21 because G.B. News should have had the fortitude to give a platform to people who are not just going to kow and kiss Nigel Farage's backside. But it seems to me that in order to be on G.B. News, you've got to be basically pro-reform. They haven't got such a big problem with Tories. But anyone who finds reform to be, you know, lukewarm, and sort of almost, I think we're going to talk about Farage in a second. But, you know, reform is neither one thing nor the other. It's a bit like a weak cup of tea, if I were to describe it, you know, in the physical terms.
Starting point is 01:13:56 When it comes to politics, it's a bit like a weak cup of tea. And GP News to cancel me because I'm critical of the direction that Nigel Farage has taken reform in is deeply damaging to the right-hand side of British politics. We need this debate. We need Rupert Lowe to say what he's saying. need Farage to say what he's saying. I need to say what I'm saying. Others need to say what they say. And we need to have this rough and tumble debate so that we can emerge with a political philosophy on the right-hand side of British politics that will save this country. And GB News has turned
Starting point is 01:14:28 its back on that. It's become party political. And that is a great shame for this country. It's now Sharia law on the streets in modern Britain as an Islamist counsellor has been caught seeming to want police to ban people drinking in areas where there is a mosque. Now, this is shocking new footage, captured in East Ham London, and it shows the local councillor Mehmud Mirza, he is an Islamist independent, gesturing at police and street offices as drinkers mill around at night in the area. Concerned citizen who sent this footage viral posted meanwhile in London, you know there's a mosque here and drinking is prohibited in Islam.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Counselor Meemood and other local representatives plead with police to stop local residents from drinking alcohol. They write, this is how it starts, the slow but gradual takeover. So I want you to watch this full exchange. Yo, honey shit, fuck up, man. Listen, here, record this, ma'am. Record this. This is your fucking counsellor, bro.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Look, this is your counsellor. You want me to fight it down. Bro, get them off my fucking road. Yeah, get them off by that streets. You do, eh, why don't you do it? You're not a councillor. I'm not a fucking police. You not are representing us, not?
Starting point is 01:15:54 I'm not police, no. I'm not, you guys are representing, no? I'm not police. I'm not police. I'm a police. What are you want me to do? The issue is, I don't know if you're aware, I've read with the chief executive and the police.
Starting point is 01:16:06 as well. It's the mosque here, you know, right in front, yeah? And when they start drinking, because drinking is a prohibitive Islam. Of course, yeah. So it's a lot of frustration. It is kind of upsetting. And it was, last night it was a quite big, you know, tension was happening. Can I tell you this? We were here last night. There's only five of us, as Kavid set, the officers. There's not that much. And the police assisted us, but once we disproved. So Ben Habib, leader of the Great British Pack with me now. Ben, this is such a slippery slope, isn't it? Because you have an elected representative and the police, rather than just giving him short shrift, seem to be listening. And the problem is, Ben, there has been an Islamist takeover in these areas of London.
Starting point is 01:16:52 So this type of policy would actually be popular. It's taking place. This isn't the only time I've come across it. I mean, there are now, I think there's a college in Edinburgh University or associated with Edinburgh University. in Edinburgh anyway, which is dedicated purely to Muslim students, where bacon isn't served, where alcohol is not allowed and so on. And we are seeing the breaking down of British culture. We are seeing the end result, if you like, of multiculturalism, mass immigration and the progressive discrimination that puts a protective blanket around all ethnicities
Starting point is 01:17:29 and minority cultural belief systems in the United Kingdom. to the detriment of the majority. We are seeing this now playing out. We've seen it repeatedly, by the way, during the course of this program with the splintering of our democratic processes, with what's happening at Fairford. But now you see it also outside this mosque.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Well, it's not in the mosque, is it? It's outside the mosque. And if you wish to drink, and this is the United Kingdom and it's perfectly legal to drink, you should be allowed to drink. But we are taking the need, drink alcohol, I mean,
Starting point is 01:18:01 we are taking the knee to, foreign cultures in the pursuit of wishing to protect and promote those cultures to the significant and perhaps fatal consequences for our own culture, to the fatal detriment of our own culture. That is what is taking place in the United Kingdom. And governments don't care about it. They champion multiculturalism. They champion other people's views, even if they're antithetical to our fundamental belief system.
Starting point is 01:18:30 They champion them, they celebrate them. and it's us that needs to take a back seat. This is going to go on and go on and go on. And just coming back to where you started the show, if I may, Dan, with the harassment that you saw of that gentleman who was putting to restore Britain leafless through doors, we are going to see much, much more of that. That was just the tip of the iceberg.
Starting point is 01:18:50 It's going to become more polarised, more divisive. We're going to see more violence on our streets unless the government recognizes the importance of a settled, largely homogeneous British culture. taking root again. Unless we head in that direction, we do it quickly, we're going to see much, much more of it. Well, we are. And Ben Habib, I do wonder if there has to start being a discussion, too, about better policing of mosques. Now, you know, there's a lot of people who would like to go much further, me included, and say ban the mosques, but obviously politically we're not at that point.
Starting point is 01:19:27 But what about the fact, Ben, that we now know terror attacks have actually been plotted, been planned, planned within mosques. And that isn't like some type of theory. Jihad al-Shameh. I mean, I still can't believe, you know, that the terrorist was called jihad and we let the guy in. The name gives it away. Exactly. But, you know, he was plotting with Muhammad Bashir inside the mosque, a terror attack, and it was captured on cameras inside the mosque. So the problem is, I just feel we're in this loony world where we have the Islamists trying to patrol our behavior outside of mosques, whereas actually we need to be patrolling what is going on inside of the mosques.
Starting point is 01:20:14 And you'll note, Ben, that is not even part of polite conversation these days. It's not something you're meant to say. It's not allowed. It's not allowed. You're not allowed to challenge it. Because if you were to challenge it, you would be challenging the protected blanket that progressive discrimination creates for all ethnic minorities and minority cultural practices
Starting point is 01:20:37 in the United Kingdom. It goes against what the government wants. I don't know if viewers are aware, I may have said it on this program before, but the government actually defines far right or one definition it uses for far right is cultural nationalism. It says that if you believe
Starting point is 01:20:54 in a British settled homogeneous culture, you are far right. It wants to break this country's culture up. That's why, To some extent, I'm sure the Prime Minister calls Danny Tomo a racist, because Danny Tomo probably stands, I'm sure stands, for a settled homogeneous British culture. He stands against the illegal invasion of this country.
Starting point is 01:21:15 They are not prepared to challenge what's going on. And what we've got to do is make the arguments relentlessly and carefully that we've got to ban the kinds of practices that we're now seeing taking place in the United Kingdom, and we need a root and branch restoration of what it means to be British, including, for example, making sure that parliamentaries, members of parliament swear on the Bible or a neutral text, but not on some other holy book,
Starting point is 01:21:44 making sure that churches are not converted to some other religions practice place, including mosques, making sure that our Christian constitution is reinforced, that people understand that when they come to this country, they are in a Christian country, not just culturally, but constitutionally, that the bishopric will continue to sit in the House of Lords. Stama wanted to remove it. I don't know with the current position at the moment,
Starting point is 01:22:09 but the Bishop Rick will continue to sit in the House of Lords, and they will continue to be the guiding light of Christianity in this country. That the king is the king of England. He's not the king of a multi-faith country. He's a head of state of a Christian country. And that, you know, we've got to reacquaint ourselves with all of that. And at the same time, we've got to remove this protective blanket that progressive discrimination has created and present the very challenges that you've just said we've got to present.
Starting point is 01:22:39 We cannot have harmony in our country if we're prepared to set aside our judicial system in the pursuit of being nice to foreign cultures. That is the end. And maybe that's what we're seeing with the suspension and bailing of these people in Fairford. It's just another form of progressive discrimination, two-tier criminal justice system that allows these people to go free, because we can't bear to challenge anyone who is so evidently standing against, you know, our country. And Ben, where do you stand politically at the moment? Because of course, you have now become chair of the Great British Pack, sort of folded advance when you saw the growth of Restore Britain and the actual votes that Restore Britain were practically getting.
Starting point is 01:23:26 And the right of British politics been remains arguably more divided now than at any time, at least in modern electoral history. And what you're seeing is, and you've nominated him actually, as one of your Union Jackass nominees today, is Nigel Farage, who many thought was on this sort of relentless march to number 10 down in street, seeing a collapse in the polls and a whole load of slees and a whole load of scandal. Then obviously there's a bit of a boost for the Conservatives,
Starting point is 01:24:03 but there's lots of people like me, and I'm sure you too, Ben, who will never trust them again after what they did. Restore is rising, but lots of people saying that there are sort of problems with the party internally, and also still not enough, votes to actually win seats in a first-past-the-post system. So there's a mess on the right. How's this going to be solved? There is a complete mess on the right, which is why I suspended
Starting point is 01:24:35 advance, as it were. Farage is not the answer. Very, very sadly, Farage has managed to take defeat out of the jaws of victory. If he had stood true to what reform was meant to be, how reform was launched, what the arguments that we were making in reform when I was part of reform, if he'd true to those, it would still be doing well. What he tried to do was pivot to the middle ground, taking a whole load of money in slightly dubious ways as well, of course, which, you know, impacts his reputation, but taking on a whole load of failed Tories and essentially adopting the close of the establishment that has basically driven this country to its knees. Farage, as I said earlier in this program, is like weak key. He's lukewarm weak tea. He no longer has
Starting point is 01:25:21 the answers. And the British people are beginning to see it. They see he's more interested in money, the trappings that money give him. You know, right now he's going around the country campaigning for a general election that is not going to come. There's not going to, there's not going to be a general election. He's distracting from the problems that reform has got. And that is tragic. And I would hope that I had hoped that Restore Britain would fill the void that reform is going to leave. By the way, just before I finish on reform, I think we're going to see it slide in the polls and we're going to see an exit of Farrah. in the not too distant future.
Starting point is 01:25:53 He's not going to hang around once it's down back at 15%, which is where UKIP kind of got stuck. He's not going to hang around leading a party that has no prospect of forming a government. So he'll be off, and we might see reform completely implode. And then restore needed, really, to be able to pick up the baton at that point and appeal to a broad section of people
Starting point is 01:26:15 on the right-hand side of British politics. And I do fear that with some of the sort of effort, no nationalist vein in Restore, that Rupert may have lost the opportunity to do that. And then that just leaves you with the Tories. And then you start wondering, is this all been one long Tory plan? Because HEMI is now the most popular leader of all the political parties. The Tories are rising in the last poll that took place. They're going to get more seats than reform's going to get. If reform continues to head towards 15%. If Restore can't flourish, you can actually see a Tory government forming at the next general election. You can see the tea leaves beginning to change.
Starting point is 01:26:56 And all you can then hope for and pray is that the Tories won't do what they've done every single time before, which has promised the earth and deliver nothing, deliver us into difficulty rather than to save us. And, you know, I'm watching. I'm just watching and hoping that something, you know, comes right. Let's see if Nigel Farage has been named. the worst British in the world today, Ben, in just one moment, stand by. But first, I'm just going to get to a couple of the superchats. Thank you to Chris C-S-H-281, who is number one in the chat today. Thank you so much, Chris, who says, crazy thing about this is stand-up to racism is funded by socialist worker party, so you have socialists who hate Israel, calling them 1930 Germans. Oh my God, I know. The irony, the irony of that whole situation. And Craig Lee, N-U-F-E-F-E-F.
Starting point is 01:27:50 who is number three on the chat today. Thank you so much, Craig, says, I no longer consent, forever English, never British. Okay, so Ben Habib has nominated Nigel, as I said, for campaigning for this general election, which isn't declared. He has also nominated Ed Davy for his pointless Lib Dem conference, 72 MPs, but no political thesis other than playing the buffoon. And I've nominated Matthew Stadlin for Dobbing in his co-presenter Hillary Fordwich on G.B News. And the results are in. 19% of you going for Nigel Farage, 32% for my choice, Matthew Stadlin. But today's Union Jackass, the worst Britain in the world today with a whopping 49% of the vote is the Liberal Democrat
Starting point is 01:28:35 leader Ed Davy. Ben, you're also nominating our greatest Britain today. Who have you gone for? Well, I've got for Peter Hargreaves, who is the founder and chairman of a wealth manager called Harvey's Landland. He's had tremendous success, huge company, phenomenal sort of example of what this country could produce. An individual who's stuck with his own business, grown it from nascenty to being, I think, the largest private wealth manager in the United Kingdom,
Starting point is 01:29:05 pays hundreds of millions of taxes each year. And he caught my attention last week, following up Jim Ratcliffe's comments that the country was, you know, heading towards with sliding towards difficulty. And he said, well, I completely disagree with Jim Ratcliffe. We have already slid.
Starting point is 01:29:22 We are already beyond redemption or words to that effect. And whilst I hope he's wrong, I think it's brave, particularly someone from financial services, because let me tell you, DEI, progressive discrimination, the woke agenda is very, very strong in financial services. You can lose your business on the back of it, expressing abuse against woke. But for someone like Peter Hargreaves, who's made such a great success of this country,
Starting point is 01:29:49 great success of his business, to have the courage to say what we are all thinking, which is all very concerned about, is this country sliding or has this country had it? And we need a good dose of that kind of truth so that we do eventually wake up or wake up sooner rather than later and react and deliver the policies that are needed to see. save this country. So I take my hat off to Peter Hargreaves, a great man, a Brexiteer, says it as it is, and, you know, super successful guy. Great choice. Thank you so much for being here, being Habib, and of course, make sure that you look into the Great British Pack. I am a member. The great thing about the Great British Pack is that it is not party political at all. So if you
Starting point is 01:30:37 just support a lot of these concepts and you want to join a vehicle who is more focused, I guess on the concepts rather than the politics, then it's a great place to go. But so good to have you, Ben. We will speak very soon as Ben Habib Chairman of the Great British Pack. Of course, former leader of Advance UK and former deputy leader of Reform UK too. Thank you so much for your company today. We are heading over to Substack though because there was a lot of breaking Royal News over the weekend. So we're going to team up with the Royal News Network to cover it all in the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow.
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Starting point is 01:31:31 5pm UK time, midday, east and 9th,m. Pacific, of course, we will be covering the Danny Tomo court case taking place tomorrow. So I do hope to see you. there. Most importantly, though, remember, I promise to keep fighting for you.

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