Dan Wootton Outspoken - REFORM UK OVERTAKES TORIES AS 2ND UK PARTY IN NIGEL FARAGE SURGE AS LABOUR UNLEASHES HELL

Episode Date: September 6, 2024

The tectonic plates of British politics are shifting apace, with the uniparty set to be smashed. With Two Tier Keir Starmer becoming a hated authoritarian PM and the Conservatives fading into irrelevance, Reform UK has emerged as the country’s second party, with the latest election result in a safe Labour area showing something remarkable is happening in the UK. Meanwhile, the dystopian bid to ban free speech and censor the internet continues at pace, with the British Bashing Corporation and the Speaker of the House Lindsay Hoyle showing totalitarian tendencies. In his Digest, Dan lashes out at the bid to crackdown on our freedoms. Then his special guest Rafe Heydel-Mankoo weighs in. PLUS: The attacks on Winston Churchill from the right and the left decoded AND: Why Prince William has turned the tables on Prince Harry by demanding an apology from Meghan Markle for both him and Catherine To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show for 30-minutes extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When does fast grocery delivery through Instacart matter most? When your famous grainy mustard potato salad isn't so famous without the grainy mustard. When the barbecue's lit, but there's nothing to grill. When the in-laws decide that, actually, they will stay for dinner. Instacart has all your groceries covered this summer. So download the app and get delivery in as fast as 60 minutes. Plus enjoy $0 delivery fees on your first three orders. Service fees, exclusions, and terms apply. Instacart. Gro delivery fees on your first three orders. Service fees,

exclusions and terms apply. Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This is Outspoken Live, episode number 46. The tectonic plates of British politics are shifting apace with the Uni Party set to be smashed. With Tutti Akir Stammer becoming a hated authoritarian PM so quickly and the Conservatives, let's be honest, fading into irrelevance, Reform UK has emerged as the country's second party. With the latest election result in a safe labour area showing something remarkable is happening in UK politics. I'll tell you all about it. Meanwhile, the dystopian bid to ban free speech and censor

the internet continues at pace, with the British Bashing Corporation and the Speaker of the House, Lindsay Hoyle, showing totalitarian tendencies. It doesn't matter what country you're in the fact is that misinformation is dangerous and no misinformation or threats or intimidation should be allowed to be carried out on social media platforms this should be for good not for bad tony blair is at it too so in my digest next i lash out at the bid to crack down on our freedoms. Then my special guest today, Rafe Hadleman Ku weighs in. Also coming up, the attacks on Winston Churchill from the right and the left decoded. A bit that I thought Churchill was the chief villain of the Second World War. Now, he didn't kill the most people.

He didn't commit the most atrocities. But I believe, and I don't really think, I think when you really get into it and tell the story right and don't leave anything out, you see that he was primarily responsible for that war becoming what it did, becoming something other than an invasion of Poland. Now, Rafe, a historian and ardent Churchill supporter, has a lot to say on that one. Plus, why Prince William has turned the tables on Prince Harry by demanding an apology from Meghan Markle for both him and Catherine. And how dare Aaron McKellen launch a stinging rebuke of the late Queen while backing harry in our uncancelled after show much more royal intrigue let me tell you and you can register on our own website right now www.outspoken.live it is a safe space free of censorship your support at just five pounds a month not only gives you 30

minutes of extra content every single weekday it allows me to continue making this independent, uncensored daily news show. Let's go. They will not stop until you are silenced and I am silenced. Who are they? The elite class, the political establishment, the blob, and of course the evil mainstream media. They are losing. They are dying. So their only solution is to shut up the majority. It won't work, but it will sure lead to some chilling times. The sort of chilling times that result in a housewife grandma being sent to jail for 15 months for an inartful Facebook post. But trust me when I say this is a coordinated push. The MSM's goblin mouthpiece, Matt Shorley,

who is the same age as me, just saying, now at the British Bashing Corporation, encouraging the censorship of voices that challenged the establishment. Just like the deranged campaign the Goblin launched against me at the very start of GB News. So the Goblin provided absolutely no pushback, as the Speaker of the House, a genuinely powerful man in Westminster, Lindsay Hoyle, called for the end of free speech altogether, the end of the internet, the end of social media as we know it. This information is dangerous. Social media is good, but it's also bad when people are using it in a way that could cause a riot, threats, intimidation, actually suggesting that we should attack somebody, you know, is not acceptable. But what we've got to do is make sure it's factually correct what's up there. If not, I think the government have really got to think long and hard about what they're going to do with social media and what are they going to put through parliament as a bill to act and i believe it should be across it doesn't matter what country you're in the fact

is that misinformation is dangerous and no misinformation or threats or intimidation should be allowed to be carried out on social media platforms this should be for good not for bad okay then mr speaker like the misinformation your Parliament pushed during COVID about lockdowns and the vaccine? Or what about the misinformation from your Parliament that resulted in the infected blood scandal? Or the post office horizon scandal? or the Grenfell Tower cladding scandal, or the expenses scandal, or the Iraq war dodgy dossier scandal. There's been more misinformation out of Westminster over the years that has caused far more damage than anything Elon Musk's platform could muster.

Or does misinformation only become misinformation when it's your political enemies telling the truth the uk has gone full-on totalitarian and i feel more uneasy about it by the day so too does the good guys at the free speech union who posted on x concerning to hear the speaker of the commons lumping misinformation in with incitement, threats and intimidation, while talking up the need for greater cross-border censorship, given that all statements of fact or opinion are provisional, who gets to define misinformation and when? But within hours.

Just earlier today, we had another MSM freak, James O'Brien, pushing even harder. The disturbingly red-cheeked LBC sociopath wants Mr 1984 himself, Tony Blair, to agree with him that X should be shut down entirely. The question of jurisdiction as well, you know, the server will be in one country, the person writing the message will be in another country. We've arguably seen this a little bit with the riots recently. But do you foresee a point in the not too distant future where other countries are going to have to follow Brazil's lead

and take actual action against platform owners for the dissemination of disinformation? Well, I certainly see a position where the world's going to have to come together and grease some rules around social media platforms. And I think that's, you know, quite what the answer is and what the right system of regulation is. I'm not sure, but I'm sure there should be. And there's got to be because it's not just, you know, how people can provoke, you know, hostility and hatred. But I think, and I don't know what the answer to this is. You know, I'm just saying that.

But we can't carry on as we are. But we can't carry on as we are. And I think the impact on young people particularly when they've got access to mobile phones very young and they're reading a whole lot of stuff and receiving a whole lot of stuff that I think is really messing with their minds in a big way. And as I say, I'm not sure what the answer to it is, but I'm sure we need to find it.

The new Beemo VI Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more. More perks. More points. More points. More flights. More of all the things you want in a travel rewards card. And then some. Get your ticket to more with the new BMO VI Porter MasterCard and get up to $2,400 in value in your first 13 months.

Terms and conditions apply. Visit bmo.com slash viporter to learn more. No, no, no. You don't need to find one. If there's one person I want nothing to do with regulating the internet, it's that liar Blair. I mean, how can the establishment not see how insane all of this is? And the insanity is very real. Look at this chilling anecdote revealed by We Are Fair Cop earlier today. Breaking, 19-year-old woman visited by anti-terrorist unit and Merseyside police yesterday. They asked her about her politics, if she is right-wing, and why she had an Anglo-Saxon replica helmet

in the house. They refused to say what she was accused of. They confiscated property, a replica decorative sword hanging on her parents' wall and advised her to bite her tongue before talking online. The young woman in question has never been in any trouble before. She has no idea what she has done and the police are refusing to tell her. This is Stalmers, Britain. You don't need to be guilty of anything beyond holding the wrong opinion. And yes, it's only social media that allows us to see the reality of life on the streets of the new UK under two-tier care. You're not allowed.

Yeah? You're not allowed. I'll move your phone out of my face before I smack it one. You son of a bitch. Yeah. You are a son of a bitch. No, you are. Look at you.

You eat pork and you look like pork. You pig. Pussy. This is racist. How's that racist? I call you a pork bastard. They call you a white bastard. That's not religion. Look at that. Your mum's a gangster, you son of a... Yeah, f*** you. Look at that. I guess Lindsay Hoyle,

Tutte Kea, and evil Tony Blair have real motivation to censor social media and hide from the world the shocking descent of the UK. Now it's time for the Uncancelled Interview. And today I am delighted to be joined for the entire show by the award-winning historian, author and broadcaster Rafe Hadle-Manku, who specializes in British national identity, the Anglosphere and culture wars, is co-editor of the critically acclaimed Burke's Perridge, World Orders of Knighthood

and Merit, and author of the best-selling A London Peculiar, as well as a senior fellow at the New Culture Forum and a trustee of the Canadian Royal Heritage Trust. Rafe, so brilliant to have you today. But how chilling is this? How chilling is it that we now have the Speaker of the House, Lindsay Hoyle, and Tony Blair, very powerful figures in the orbit of Slippery Starmer now effectively calling for the censorship of the internet, potentially even shutting down social media. Yeah, you know, you're quite right.

Well, great to be with you, first and foremost, Dan, and congratulations on your superb new podcast. It's really shaking things up. So bravo. But yes, I watched that clip of the Speaker Hoyle and quite frankly, trying to hear him analyze as an expert social media, it's sort of like me trying to give you an explanation about hip hop or grime music. It was so bizarre. You know, it's chilling stuff, especially when the speaker combines things like misinformation with incitement and you know intimidation and so forth you know as you as you said earlier this is all about suppressing anything that contradicts the

established narrative so for example during the riots and the protests that we saw if you didn't have a twitter account you would be inclined to believe the curated news that was being provided to us through the mainstream media and through our political class, that this was something that was an online creation of people like Tommy Robinson and bad actors in Russia and China. Those of us with Twitter accounts could see the full picture. We could see the Muslim gangs rampaging through the streets. None of that was provided to the British public. Now, unfortunately, there are only 20 million Twitter or X accounts in this country. the muslim gangs rampaging through the streets none of that was provided to the british public now unfortunately there are only 20 million twitter or x accounts in this country so still the majority of people here are getting their news from the mainstream media which is just an awful

prospect which supports the the what's the class and it's so sinister and of course who decides what's misinformation as you quite rightly said of course you know if in 2020 you supported the lab leak theory as i did and i'm sure you did oh i did you would be and i was censored for it censored for it just last year the fbi came out and actually said that they actually believe that lab leak was correct we now find out the c CIA was actually trying to cover up this as well you know remember what's what's misinformation today won't be misinformation tomorrow you know at one point we thought that the Earth that the Sun revolved around the Earth Galileo was silenced and cancelled for misinformation this is so dangerous to the

dissemination of legitimate information. And of course, if you're going to penalize the social media companies by, say, fining them 10% of their global income or whatever, they're going to err on the side of caution. And so genuine, important, critical, legitimate discussion will be suppressed. It's very chilling stuff. This has only happened in the first two months of this new Labour government. It's showing its authoritarian streak. We can only imagine what's down the line over the next five years. Yeah, I completely agree. I mean, to me, it's more than an authoritarian streak, to be honest. I think it's full on totalitarian now. But what makes me sick, Rafe, is when I look at these big players in the mainstream media,

the Goblin, Matt Chorley, the sociopath James O'Brien, and they are encouraging this. And I think, you're journalists. How disgraceful. And I presume it's because they know that in lockstep with the establishment they know the mainstream media is dying a slow painful death and this might slow it down a little bit yeah well you've nailed one of the key points here which is essentially that the legacy media the mainstream media understand full well that everything is moving online, that the new platforms of the future are obviously the online platforms. So it's in their own financial interest to do whatever they can to stem that ebb and flow away from them. But equally

important is the fact that they are just as complicit in the new ideology that has now been implanted in Britain and across the West. I keep trying to explain to people that Britain is now a post-revolutionary society. The revolution has already happened. You don't have to fly red flags from the rooftops of our institutions and have people mobs in the streets to have a revolution. The buildings around us look the same, but the people who inhabit those institutions are cuckoos in the nest. And so from James O'Brien to Keir Starmer and everyone in between, they all buy in to the new ideology. And for the first time in history, this has been a top down revolution, a revolution of woke ideology and progressivism and authoritarianism.

And they clamp down on free speech imposed from the top to the bottom, as opposed to all other revolutions, which have been the grassroots up. That's why you and I are having this discussion on YouTube rather than on the mainstream media, because we are the counter revolutionaries. Yep, totally, totally. And I absolutely love you putting it that way, actually. But I also really noticed that there has never been more of a gap between the establishment, and I include the mainstream media, and I include mainstream politicians in that, and the majority. I call them the silenced majority. We are angry, Rafe. Now, how long can censorship keep a lid on that anger? Well, of course, we've seen what happens when that anger does burst over.

We've just seen that now. And of course, what is most telling is that when we had the riots in 2011 in Tottenham and everywhere after the shooting of Mark Duggan, a black man by the police, when we had the when we had the riots and protests in 2020 with BLM. What did we hear from both Conservative and Labour alike? We had Starmer and Rayner saying, well, we understand the causes of this. We understand the motivations. And we sympathise with you about the death of George Floyd, this American criminal who put a gun to a pregnant woman's belly. We understand why you're

upset about all of this stuff. On this occasion, none of that the media class the political class everybody coerced around this attempt to slander everybody who was concerned about the the the the level in which their towns and cities had fundamentally changed they were all smeared and slurred and slandered as far right that's why they're trying to cut down on free speech, because they realised that the people themselves can see what's going on. But if the people don't have any access to these platforms, if they are not able to actually see anything but the curated editorial news at their fed, then hopefully they can suppress that. Because the only way that multiculturalism and immigration can survive in this country for example is by draconian clampdowns on free speech and a suppression of the sort of video that you

just displayed. Rafe would you go as far to say that multiculturalism is tearing the country apart? Yeah look barely a day or a week goes past when you don't have a police commissioner or a mayor or a politician saying that diversity is our greatest strength i'm afraid far from being our greatest strength when you combine it with mass immigration and multiculturalism and you have the super diversity we have today it is our greatest weakness britain is fast becoming not a united kingdom, it's becoming a united nations. We are dissolving into a series of ethno-nationalist silos and unfortunately that is proving itself extremely damaging, of course, irreparably damaging to any sense of cohesive universal identity. Social cohesion breaks down. You know, it's not just me saying this left-wing socialists not

sociologists and academia have done a meta-analysis of all the 87 studies on the issue of social trust and social cohesion and they find that increased diversity on local neighborhoods leads to reduction in trust leads to a deterioration of local neighborhoods. People vote less, people stay at home more, they don't go out as much into public. You see public buildings and so forth deteriorating because people no longer feel they can trust each other, not just between different races, also even within and between the same members of the same race. There is no evidence at all that diversity is a strength, but no one has been brave enough to see that. And the rot in the Tory party is so deep that you even had the Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, minting a 50 pence coin saying diversity built Britain. This is the new myth that you see being created, that immigration

and diversity built Britain, which of course is a great slur on those generations of people from the British Isles who actually did build this country over centuries. But breaking right now, Rafe, there is a massive shift going on in terms of the tectonic plates in British politics, proven by an election yesterday that you won't hear much about in the mainstream media, but the results are absolutely absolutely fascinating let's look at this post on x from zia yusuf who is the chairman of reform uk who writes reform has all the momentum in british politics and is bearing down on labor crew west has been a labor stronghold yesterday's by-election result big swing from labor to reform so even though labor has a very high vote here 43

look at this rave down 19 reform brand new entry 26 the tories at 17 and then you go down to the the more minor parties well below. So I'm sorry, Rafe, I believe Reform UK is now the second party in British politics. Am I wrong? Don't apologise for it. This is a fundamental moment, actually, in British politics for a potential realignment. You know, we had the realignment actually in 2019 when small C patriotic Labour voters lent their votes to the Tories in 2019 with Boris Johnson. Unfortunately, we then had Covid and all of the money that could have been used for levelling up was spent on furlough and lockdown. And so reluctantly, those voters then turned to Labour at the last election. But they are fair weather friends of Labour. They're not really allied to Labour at all. And reform, you can clearly see now, is seizing on that opportunity. And it's only been two months,

as I've said, into the Labour government where I think you have buyer's remorse with so many people who cast their votes for Labour when they naively didn't realise that what we're seeing now is actually the true colour of Labour. You know, Starmer said one thing to become leader of the Labour Party and betrayed the Labour Party members. He said another thing to become prime minister, and he's betrayed Labour voters, people for the winter fuel allowance, and so forth. But then now the imperative is on the Reform Party not to drop the ball. What do they need to do? What do they need to do? They need to professionalise and they need to understand that they are no longer an outsider campaigning party.

They are now within the walls of Parliament. And they need to be, in my sense, a bit more like the SNP. They need one single key cause to follow. SNP, that's independence. For the Reform Party, it must be immigration, immigration, immigration, to paraphrase Tonyony blair i've said for a few years actually if there was an immigration party alone with that title it would have done hugely well at the election that needs to be the reforms core thing to campaign on but then of

course having proper policies across the board and it needs to have a dedicated policy unit which i don't think it currently has very well so far. It may be wrong with that, but I don't think it has. And it needs to actually present itself as being a legitimate opposition and a contender to eventually become the ruling government of this country. Well, do you know what I find fascinating, Rafe? I genuinely think that the Labour Party and the mainstream media have realised now that Reform UK could be in government in 2029. I've predicted even before the last election that we will have Prime Minister Farage in 2029. Some people might say I'm crazy, but let's see. But look at the attacks that are now

coming. So this was in The Times this week. They have described Reform UK as a danger. They have described Reform UK policies as loopy. But the thing that I actually found most disgusting was this quote from a serving Labour MP, we don't know who, because of course they're completely gutless, describing Reform UK members as, quote, keyboard warriors, and saying many of these are in their Transformers pyjamas in their mum's basement, but what we haven't seen yet is reform on the doorstep or speaking to voters. Now, obviously, that's grossly offensive. But isn't it also a massive miscalculation, Rafe?

Because this is always what the political elites do when they're trying to demonise a certain sector of society. They did it with Brexit voters. Well, they lost. They lost as a result. Yeah, and you could mention Hillaryary clinton's deplorables right the swivel-eyed loons that david tamron referred to uh ukip members as as well you're precisely right it's that same condescension it's the idea that we are the elite in the educator class and

we understand things better than you do and that patronizing tone no longer works. But what's I think actually also equally fascinating is that there is so much of this bile projected towards reform and their five MPs. Meanwhile, we have four pro-Palestinian MPs who were elected on a one issue mandate, and that was Palestine. No concern about education or health care. And Corbyn. And don't forget Jeremy Corbyn leading the pack. Forming a five MP bloc now with Jeremy Corbyn. Now, we don't know.

You think reform could be the government in five years? You may well be right. They could sink or swim in the next five years. What we do know is that Islamic sectarian politics is here to stay.

And those four or five seats are only going to get larger. That should be striking fear into the hearts of any traditional liberal let alone conservative if you believe in women's rights and gay rights and everything else you should be generally no it terrifies me it terrifies me and then you've got labor saying oh we're going to make islamophobia illegal i mean it's nuts well course, what we're seeing here are attempts because, of course, the Labour realises the threat that the Muslim Islamic sectarianism poses to its own electoral chances because they always depended on the Muslim vote. And so when you see them having these arms embargoes against Israel and when you see this proposed Islamophobic legislation, which is so chilling, these are all ways in which they're trying to win back that lost Islamic vote. And, you know, and this follows just after we've had the government strike down the Higher Education Free Speech Act. You know, this Islamophobia legislation, which will come in either a standalone legislation or in a new Race Equalities Act, it's going to be so chilling

because it's going to use what we call the all-party parliamentary group definition of Islamophobia, which essentially will mean that if anyone perceives something that you say to be an attack on Muslimness, whatever that means, you'll be guilty. So if you condemn child marriages, if you condemn first cousin marriages, if you condemn polygamy, even if you start attacking the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs,

you could potentially fall foul of this. And even Sikhs are upset now in the Times yesterday because, of course, the Sikhs endured the most terrible torture at the hands of Muslims historically. And if you make reference to that, they're now fearful that they could also become criminalised for that. This is the face of the Labour Party in the 21st century. Yeah, it's totally terrifying, actually. The other thing that you're seeing at the moment, Rafe, is complete two-tier mainstream media coverage of Nigel Farage. This is constant. So I wanted to show you Richard Keyes, remember him, the disgraced sports broadcaster.

Yesterday, he posted on X this picture of Nigel Farage lunching at Scott's in Mayfair, he said, in the most expensive street in the UK. To be fair, I'm certain he was working on constituency business, although it didn't sound like it. Contrasted very nicely in this post by Dr. David Jeffrey, who wrote, Angela Rainer clubbing equals everyone needs a holiday. Nigel Farage having lunch equals how come he's not talking about Clacton 24-7. And this actually, I know it can be viewed as a light-hearted issue, Rafe, but it infuriates me because the bias permeates the mainstream media now when it comes to every story. So we've seen over the past 24 hours the complete sympathy from Kay Burley on Sly News, from ITV News, from all of the mainstream media about the fact that Angela Rayner was criticized for going and making a fool of herself.

There she is by dancing like a drunken teenager in a club in Ibiza. And they think that's great. And actually, if you criticize her, then you're clearly against a working class hero and you're clearly sexist but when Nigel Farage had the cheek to go to the RNC over a weekend by the way to visit his mate Donald Trump just after the assassination attempt remember he was literally hounded I mean you had channel 4 news and Emily Maitlis chasing him through the convention centre. So there is a two-tier media. There's a two-tier media and it's done with a great deal of venom and hatred, which you don't really see because there's hypocrisy on both sides of the political

spectrum. But the venom with which you see it coming from one direction, you know, almost literally becoming swivelized with the way in which they do it. I mean, Richard Keyes, who posted this tweet, this is a man who is giving a moral lecture and he left his wife to start to get married to his daughter's friend, best friend, who was half his age. He lives in he lives in qatar right the world's leader probably in human rights abuses at least uh you know for the indian workers and so forth who live there a terrible place to live if you were actually a moral person you would have thought i don't know how much he's earning in qatar i mean the hypocrisy of the you know there's a sort of champagne socialism at its at its very worst but of course this sort of hypocrisy it goes far beyond just the personalities we're talking about you know i mean you remember you know the left will forgive uh people on the

left for doing the same things people on the right do in politics so obama uh deported twice the number of people that trump did in any given year including in those cages blind eye turn to all of that obama dropped 10 times more airstrikes than George W. Bush. For some reason, the left media never spoke about any of that. Now, of course, we've got places like Germany talking about the Rwanda

plan, and I'm sure the media will skirt that issue as soon as they can. Germany, of course, led by a social democratic chancellor. And also, what about the hypocrisy, Rafe, when it comes to the fact that today Labour has admitted they are considering this plan of using Estonian prisons to house criminals from the UK? Now, in theory, I don't actually have a problem with that. But how is it any different to deporting illegals to Rwanda it's not at all I mean if I haven't sake what people have to

remember is that in 2004 Tony Blair and the new labor back then were having discussions about deporting asylum seekers to Tanzania that's conveniently forgotten about and plans went very far down that sort of road. The hypocrisy here stinks. And that's what really strikes at the heart of British decency. I mean, the British people hate hypocrisy more than anything else from your personal life to your politics. If you're a hypocrite, you deserve to be slung out of office. And the more that people see of this, I mean, the more and that's one and the more that people see of this i mean the more and that's one of the reasons of course you had all the issues about the covid parties and

number 10 it's the hypocrisy is double standards and all the rest of it and the more people see this from labor the sooner they'll be turfed out of office and it is only reform uk providing opposition now on any front i know the conservative Party is going through a leadership election, but they have literally departed the field. And this is in all areas. And I was really grateful to see Zia Youssef, again, the Reform UK chairman, taking on this complete lunatic and weirdo, actually, Ed Miliband, writing, British people's energy bills are unaffordable and keep going up. This is the state of our Secretary of State for Energy. This Labour government is heading for the rocks. And he posted this video of Ed Miliband, which if you haven't seen it, I mean, cringe away.

So my friend is blowing in the wind. The answer is blowing in the wind. So here I am on the latest stage of my GB energy tour. And his answers, Rafe, are going to bankrupt us in the wind. You're quite right. You would have thought that the man responsible for the Edstone, the man photographed eating that ham sandwich so ghastly would have learned his lesson about PR operations and so forth. I mean, look, every single expert knows that this idea to try

to get net zero by 2030 is simply unachievable. Even the greatest supporters of it say, you know, it can't be done before at least 2035. And yet, and we've now been told, of course, unofficially, that this will potentially, this vainglorious attempt to achieve the unattainable will cost potentially, you know, hundreds of billions of pounds. And, you know, where is the Conservative Party in all of this? You're quite right to praise the chairman of the Reform Party. You know, the people in this country have not had a genuine conservative government since 1997. Instead, they've had almost 30 years of a uniparty, a centrist uniparty, leftist uniparty, New Labour versus, you know, New Labour Light. And the Reform Party would not exist if the Conservative Party had actually been, you know, conservative. How about that? They are conservative

in name only. I've said for a long time they should be renamed the neoliberal party because they don't have a truly conservative, high Tory sort of bone in their body. And anyone who thinks, anyone in the media who thinks that reform is beyond the pale and extreme, they simply either weren't alive in the 80s and 90s or they've got a very short memory because the policies that that reform takes on things you know from immigration to culture is simply the traditional conservatism well of course that would be described as far right now wouldn't she rave that is the reality thatcher would be viewed probably as too conservative for the conservative party so you know faraj right you know him personally you know what he's. What does he need to do to become Prime Minister? And does he have it in him? I think Nigel Farage certainly has the ability

to be a Prime Minister and a very effective Prime Minister, particularly under first past the post, if he can dominate. Because you have to remember, since the Second World War, not a single government has been elected with more than 50% of the uh of votes cast so you only need about a third of the votes cast to do it so it's not impossible he needs to essentially i would say with greatest respect to him trust other people to also carry the burden of reform on their shoulders too and that means you know not being worried about having potentially other bright sparks and bright lights uh alongside him and i think if he assembles a really powerful team of people who are also charismatic and eloquent, then I think there is a very clear path to the people

because the public are calling out for change. They're calling for an end to this, the Uniparty, and reform and other small parties emerging. And these are like weeds trying to break through the cement that has held down politics in this country for too long. The British people have been betrayed by the Tory party. They're being betrayed by the Labour Party and they need change. And so the imperative is on reform to meet those needs. It's their duty to their country breaking right now there is a growing war on the right over the legacy of winston churchill britain's greatest post-war sorry britain's greatest prime minister ever the man who changed us post-war, or a warmonger.

This conversation has gone up a level after Tucker Carlson's interview with, again, someone called Daryl Cooper, who on one hand is described as one of the most important historians in the world today. On the other, a Holocaust apologist. Watch this. I'm American. I'm not English, so I don't have any weird motive in asking this, but how would you assess Winston Churchill? I got in trouble with my podcast partner, Jocko Willink, one time because he's a New England Dutchman whose family, it's near and dear to their Dutch, but very near and dear to their heart that Winston Churchill is a hero, right? Well, everyone loves Churchill.

Everyone thinks that. He really thinks that. And I told him that I think, and maybe I'm being a little hyperbolic, maybe, but I told him, maybe trying to provoke him a little bit, that I thought Churchill was the chief villain

of the Second World War. Now, he didn't kill the most people. He didn't commit the most people. He didn't commit the most atrocities. But I believe, and I don't really think, I think when you really get into it and tell the story right and don't leave anything out, you see that he was primarily responsible for that war becoming what it did, becoming something other than an invasion of Poland. So today I want to decode those claims with Rafe Hadelman-Kuh, who is a historian and also a major supporter of Winston Churchill, in part because he wrote recently that in World War II his relatives were murdered by both the Nazis and communists.

His father is Sikh, his mother is Polish, his family came to Britain in the 1940s as part of the Polish government in exile. So Rafe, it used to be the hard left that questioned Winston Churchill's legacy, but now it is folk on the right, including people who I have great respect for, like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. You're very angry about this, aren't you? I am, and I think it's historical illiteracy of the greatest kind, and that's to put it mildly. Either people are being deliberately dim or disingenuous. You know, I had wrote my master's thesis on Winston Churchill. I served on the body on the board of the International Churchill Society. I was honoured to join Mo Mowlam for the final of BBC's Great Britons on Team Churchill in 2020.

I've been studying the man for 30 years and no respected Churchill historian, no one who actually knows the subject would support any of this nonsense. And I was amused to hear you refer to this chap, Daryl Cooper, as a renowned world historian. As far as I can see, the man never studied history in his life. He doesn't have a degree in history. He's clearly not trained in any historical skills that any academic would regard as being legitimate to actually come out with such outlandish statements it seems that his knowledge is simply cursory based upon reading other people's books rather than doing what any decent historian does and that's to go to the primary sources to go to the Churchill archives and so forth and anybody who has even the most you know slight knowledge of

Churchill in the second world war can clearly see that this man wasn't responsible for the Second World War, for heaven's sake, he spent years in the wilderness warning the world about the threat from Nazism and so forth. But there are very few occasions in history, this is perhaps the only occasion in history, where the future of the Western world and the future of the free world rested upon one man's shoulder. You know, there's that old expression, cometh the hour, cometh the man. I don't think it was ever more relevant. And the reason I say that is because for one year, Britain, along with its empire, but Britain in terms of the continent of Europe, stood alone against Nazism from the fall

of France and Dunkirk in May, June 1940, right through to Operation Barbarossa when Hitler invaded the Soviet Union in 1941. And for that year, resources were so slender that Britain was on the verge of defeat. And it was only Winston Churchill's iron will, resolute determination and spirit, and his masterful skill of oratory, that kept Britain in the war. And if Britain had succumbed, if there had been another prime minister, which is one of the issues that this chap, Daryl Cooper, said, if someone like Lord Halifax, or Lord Holy Fox, as he's known,

had become prime minister and sued for peace, there's no guarantee that Hitler would have recognised that peace treaty. You know, Hitler tore up every treaty he signed signed and there's this bizarre idea by some on the sort of on the on the deranged right like this man that hitler would have somehow above all other treaties this one he would have adhered to i'm sorry well yeah let's have a look at that argument actually rafe because i want to show you what daryl cooper specifically said about this to Tucker Carlson, and then you can respond. And throughout that summer, Adolf Hitler is firing off radio broadcasts, giving speeches, literally sending planes over to drop leaflets over London and other British cities,

trying to get the message to these people that Germany does not want to fight you. Like, we don't want to fight you. Offering peace proposals that, you know, said, you keep all your overseas colonies. We don't want any of that. We want Britain to be strong. The world needs Britain to be strong, you know, especially as we face this communist threat and so forth. Like, this is what's going on. And I think that if there were people in Britain who who uh well if they hadn't put it this way if they hadn't been so successful at delegitimizing uh the peace approach by demonizing neville chamberlain and so forth and holding him responsible for the invasion of poland um that people would have been they would have understood like we don't need another repeat of the First World War. You know, we don't. So, Rafe, is it true that Hitler was looking for peace after the start of the war and he was spurned by Churchill?

Von Ribbentrop, who was Hitler's ambassador over here, certainly had approached that idea with the government. But, of course, it wasn't a concerted effort it wasn't an ongoing move by hitler to try to get peace done and this is where actually platforms like x and twitter is very useful because um this chap daryl cooper has written a whole thread making all of these arguments and elon musk's wonderful thing called community notes is where you can actually challenge the legitimate misinformation that's why you don't need to have a clamp down on x because community notes provides that important function of allowing people to make up their own mind about what is misinformation or not for example dara koopel says that hitler sent rudolph to britain to negotiate in parley for some sort of terms complete nonsense rudolph hess came here on his

own initiative and without any sanction from hitler i mean this is sort of second rate sort of history and let's understand what he's saying here if hitler had defeated britain or if he had got a peace treaty with britain hitler would have attained complete domination of the continent of Europe and he would have been able to actually force focus 100 percent of his force against Russia as opposed to the 70 percent that actually was spent against Russia in the second world war and after the war Joseph Stalin and Nikita Khrushchev both said that if Germany had given them 100% of their force, if it was a simple one-on-one war, single-front war, then Germany would have won. And if Germany had won, that means that Hitler would have controlled

Europe and Russia and Africa and Asia with Japan. And of course, once it restored its forces, it would inevitably have come to attack Britain because Hitler had always got Napoleon in his mind. And Napoleon was never able to conquer all of Europe, was never able to conquer Britain. And for Hitler's legacy to be greater than Napoleon, greater than Julius Caesar, there is no doubt in my mind that the man who always tore up treaties would tear up this treaty. Because another important thing to remember, Hitler didn't love or like Britain.

He admired Britain. He admired Britain. He admired the way that we got our empire. But he wasn't a romantic and didn't have any idea of, you know, the Anglo-Saxons being somehow our brothers and we must join together. This was a man who wanted to dominate and conquer. And if he had conquered Europe and Britain and Africa and Asia, he would then have been able to turn his attention on North America. That's why Franklin Roosevelt said in his Arsenal of Democracy speak, if Great Britain goes down, the peoples of America will be living at the point of the gun. And actually, it was British scientists who helped the American Manhattan Project for a nuclear weapon. If Hitler had actually taken control of

Britain, it's very much likely that actually Germany could have used British scientists to get them towards the nuclear stage too. And all the time that we're talking about, you know, having peace with Hitler, the peoples of Europe, not just the Jews, but the Slavs and the peoples of France and, you know, Denmark and the Netherlands and so forth, would all have been subjugated under the Nazi jackboot as Hitler had free reign to also embark on his murderous policy against the Slavs and the Jews as well. To be so morally bankrupt as to think that peace with Hitler was an obvious way to go, I think is just reprehensible. There are three other key areas where churchill is specifically criticized and it would be great if you could decode them or debunk them depending on how you feel and i think

the key areas rafe are churchill and the bengal famine churchill and poison gas and Churchill sending in tanks to crush the general strike. So do you think it is fair for him to be criticised in those areas? Absolutely not. I mean, the Churchill and the Bengal famine, this only came up actually in the last couple of decades, there was a historian called, well, a historian, there was a woman called Mukherjee, I won't call her a historian, who has been completely deconstructed and her arguments destroyed by the leading Indian expert on famines. And this argument was never actually made in the 1950s or 60s. It's a very recent thing. There was a cyclone, essentially, in Bengal, which destroyed grain supplies and grain stocks. Now, normally what would happen on those occasions is you would have grain imported in from nearby areas in Asia.

Unfortunately, of course, the Second World War was going on and there were no routes and supplies because the Japanese were blockading the routes by which normally you would import grain. At the same time, the local administrators in Bengal proved essentially incompetent and useless in how they were distributing what few reserves there were, and they hadn't been storing stocks very well. And thirdly and importantly, Indian tradesmen were stockpiling grain to try to increase the price of all of this. Now, all of this is happening at the height of the Second World War. We have to remember that. Churchill did all that he could to try to

alleviate this. That included at a time when Britain had serious food shortages and rationing, Churchill managed to get one million tons of grain to go to Bengal, getting the Australians to help in that and appealing to Canada and America. Churchill wanted to get more shipping to do that, but the Americans said they couldn't because they were planning D-Day and they needed those ships to actually take part in the D-Day landings and so forth. So there is absolutely no evidence. And again, this is all about substandard pseudo historians who don't do primary research coming up with these crackpot ideas whether it be Daryl Cooper or here with the Bengal famine the reality is if you look at the documentary source it's quite clear and even the Indian

leading experts know that this was not Churchill's fault and then Nicole what else did you say oh yes poison got another one we quite often hear Churchill sanctioned the use of poison gas against the Kurds and so forth. Again, go to Churchill Archives College and what you'll see is he's referring to tear gas. And tear gas, of course, is what is used by most police forces around the world to control mob unrest and so forth. And then, of course, with the great another one is that churchill rolled out tanks for example into glasgow to crush strikers there well the reality is that there were no troops involved in violence against against the rioters who were rioting in sorry in 1918-19 they we had in glasgow uh workers there were calling for reduced hours and so forth. There was violence between the police and the strikers. The Glasgow authorities called for a backup with troops. Troops were supplied,

but they didn't engage in the violence. And there were tanks that were in sheds, and the tanks never even came out of the sheds. Churchill was only Minister of War Munitions. He wasn't part of the main decision-making process. It was a Lloyd Lloyd George government he simply acceded to some demands to have troops there but he said let's not blow this out of proportion it's all there in the original records and no tanks went in again this all came about in 1973 with another substandard historian wrote a book no one had ever talked about this before 1973 suddenly long after everyone is dead, we get this now very popular idea in Scotland that Churchill, quote, rolled the tanks in the Battle of George Square. Complete nonsense. And I'm afraid this is what you see time and again. There are many legitimate areas

to criticise Churchill. Churchill and the abdication crisis. Churchill and India. Churchill and the Dardanelles campaign in the First World War Churchill as Chancellor of the Exchequer tying Britain to the gold standard there are many ways in which you can criticise him he was a flawed man as well as being the greatest Prime Minister we've had but all we need to have is serious academics and historians discussing this

rather than these amateurs that we are currently seeing unfortunately rise to prominence on social media which again is great that's what free speech is all about because we can have the discussion we can have the debate well look thank you so much for decoding that i am a big churchill fan i always will be nothing is going to change that my change my mind on that it doesn't mean that there aren't gray areas of course there are i do completely agree with tucker that history is not a case of black and white, but I don't think that being contrarian and trying to turn Churchill into the biggest villain of World War II helps anyone.

Now look, stand by, Rafe, because big news on the royal front. This has been a topsy-turvy week. We now learn that Prince William is demanding that Harry and Meghan apologize to him and Catherine. So we'll discuss that in just one minute. But all right, guys, it is the best time of year because football is back. We're talking Premier League in the UK, in the US, NFL Sundays and college football Saturdays. And with that comes the glorious grind of fantasy football lineups. So this is where your inner manager comes alive, setting the perfect fantasy roster, screaming at your TV and making last minute waiver moves that either make you a hero or the guy everyone ridicules in the group chat.

But listen, while you're over there making sure your fantasy team is dialed in, don't let your personal grooming become the guy that gets left on the bench. Let's be honest, nobody wants to fumble their grooming routine. And that's where Manscaped's Performance Package 5.0 Ultra comes in, acting as your all-in-one grooming playbook. From keeping things sharp down below with the Lawn Mower 5.0 Ultra, to taking care of those rogue nose and ear hairs with the Weed Whacker 2.0. This is the lineup that'll keep you looking and feeling like a champ on and off the field. It will help you feel clean, confident, and ready to dominate your fantasy league. The Lawnmower 5.0

Ultra Groin and Body Hair Trimmer is the franchise player of your grooming roster with precise trimming capabilities that's reliable, efficient, and gets the job done without fumbling. Whether it's for date night, a weekend tailgate, or just everyday grooming, this is the tool you want on your squad. No one wants a surprise nose or ear hair making a guest appearance on the game day. That's why the Weed Whacker 2.0 handles those details like a pro, keeping you neat and ready to go. No missed tackles in your grooming gang. And the Performance Package 5.0 Ultra doesn't stop at grooming and essentials. It also comes with two free gifts, the Boxers 2.0 Midnight Bravo and the Shed 2.0 Toiletry Bag,

premium gear to ensure you're always ready for action, whether at home or on the road. Join the over 10 million men worldwide who trust Manscaped and get ready for kickoff by heading over to manscaped.com. Use the code OUTSPOKEN for 20% off and free shipping. Trust me, you'll be drafting the real MVP of grooming this season. www.manscaped.com. Use the code OU code outspoken at checkout for 20% off and free shipping stay on top of your grooming gang and be ready for anything this season throws your way now breaking right now Prince William has turned the tables on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, with someone very close to the royal, saying there would be no way he would consider allowing Prince Harry back into the fold

until he and his wife Catherine, the Princess of Wales, receive an apology from the Sussexes. And I'm joined now again by Rafe Hale-Mancou, the royal historian and commentator. Rafe, what's so beautiful about this is that we've been hearing for so long all of Prince Harry's ridiculous demands for an apology from his father and brother. God knows what for. And actually, the reality is there's only two people who should be apologising.

And it's Harry and Meghan, surely. Yes, and what a wonderful journey we've been on. Because you'll remember, originally, Prince Harry said he wouldn't attend any royal events, wouldn't come back unless there was an apology. That then was then forgotten about. And he did return despite having no royal apology. But yes, you're absolutely right. Look, all of the venom venom all of the attacks have

come in one direction through this terrible memoir spare of prince harry's through this netflix documentary that we've had through these oprah interviews where we had you know megan mocking her late majesty and so forth the cruel calumnies the slanderous words about not only prince william but about our Princess of Wales and about our current Queen and the hurt that caused the royal family. And that base accusation, perhaps most terribly of all, of racism within the royal family about who was talking about the colour of the child's skin, as if any mixed-race family don't have those discussions. There's not a black family in the world that wouldn't have the same discussion if their son or daughter

married a white woman. And for months, Prince Harry allowed media speculation, did nothing to dampen the flames for months before finally saying something. But by that time, the damage had been caused. And I think that is unforgivable. I would be surprised if I were the Prince of Wales even to accept an apology because apologies are as good as the person who's saying them. And there would need to be some contrite, really contrite way in which you could demonstrate

the genuineness of that apology rather than it being done for some other ulterior motive just to essentially find a new role in life as I think Prince Harry now wants to seek. Yeah because this is what the various sources close to William are saying Rafe. So a former courtier tells the Daily Mail there will be no reunion until Harry and Meghan apologize to their Royal Highnesses for everything they have said and there is no sign that is likely. But then a friend of the royals said,

it's hard to see a reconciliation. How could there be when William and Catherine have the justifiable fear that anything they say could appear in a future book or repeated in a TV programme? Then in reference to Catherine, who has been undergoing treatment for an unnamed form of cancer, another pal of William said, there is one member of the family who William is keen to to see returning to public engagements and it's not harry and the

thing is right from everything that i am told william has absolutely no intention of forgiving harry harry was warned that there was a consequence for his actions and he went ahead with them and now that it's all gone so terribly wrong in california he's looking for a way back but isn't it a case of too little too late far too little far too late the damage has been done and you know for any relationship any the foundation of any relationship is trust and when that trust has been violated so gratuitously when you have essentially no faith that anything you say in private will be made public. I mean, to have such private things relayed in public,

if you're going to believe them, I mean, how on earth can you possibly come back from that, particularly when you're in somewhere like the Royal Family, which is so sensitive, let alone the damage he's caused to his grandmother and his grandfather, both of whom William adored. And in their final years of their lives, they had such pain and hardship from the hurt caused to them by Harry and Meghan, let alone that important period between the king's

succession and his coronation, when all focused should be on positivity around the monarchy. There was such an air of negativity in a dark cloud. Imagine doing that to your father too. You know, the king, of course, is a Christian. And, you know, I still, I think he was still hoping for that prodigal son moment where you open your arms to the exiled son. But Prince William, I think, has none of that.

And I think I'm perfectly understandable. I don't know what anyone's would do in that situation that would necessarily be any different. But it just goes to show, I think, the degree to. I don't know what anyone's would do in that situation. That would necessarily be any different, but it just goes to show, I think the degree to which Prince Harry is now lost and flailing around in California. He doesn't have a role there. He doesn't have any commercial or business abilities like Megan does.

She's got her American Riviera orchard. She's got what she wanted to out of this relationship. She was able to use her marriage to him to try to make her an A-lister or at least move in A-list circles. And she's trying to make herself into a sort of Gwyneth Paltrow goddess on a Martha Stewart level. Prince Harry can only be a prince. He can only play polo.

He's very limited in what he can do. The only thing he understands is royal duties. And I think he understands that now. We've seen, of course, the attempt in America to create a royal court in Montecito their website's been rebranded their children now have princely titles they've got these fake royal tours of Colombia Nigeria and so forth that's because that's all that Harry knows how to do and I think he's realizing there's nothing like the real thing and his life is quite vacuous in California as of, it was for the Duke and Duchess of Windsor in France. Indeed, so many parallels there, aren't there, especially between Meghan and Wallace Simpson.

But I think also actually between Harry and the Duke of Windsor and the fact that actually his life after leaving the royal family just wasn't what he expected it to be. But what do you make of what's going on in their marriage, Rafe? Because there was a source close to Harry in the Daily Telegraph this week trying to say, oh, just look at Harry. You can see how happy he is. Well, actually, no, because in the unposed photos in Columbia, he looked utterly miserable and he was doing everything possible to get away from his wife. So do you think that there could be issues in this marriage? Because it is very telling, isn't it,

that he's talking about returning to the UK at least for part of the year when we know Meghan has no intention of ever returning to the UK. I'd be surprised if she ever sets foot on British soil again because she's so terrified of the fact that she would be booed anywhere she went in public. And I think, in reality, there's a chance that could happen. Yes, I think there's every chance that that could happen. And yes, you're absolutely right. I don't think she will ever set foot back into this country.

Which means, of course, if Princery does set up a temporary home over here he will be not seeing her for months at a time perhaps not seeing his children if he doesn't feel that it's safe enough for them to come over here um i always try not to speculate on things i don't know about people's personal lives and relationships but i would simply say this marriage was always about me. This was all about Meghan using the royal family as a means to elevate and promote herself. There's nothing, no one is so blind as those in love, and I think everybody else can see that quite clearly, and she's attained what she wanted to. She was always a California princess, and now she's living

that life. That's not the world that Prince Harry was born into it's not the world of tradition and ritual and I think you know having turned his back on his true friends and having relied so much on Meghan's PR team and so forth that must have caused upset and a feeling that in some sense his best interests weren't being served and he had to play second fiddle I think the fact that Meghan retreated from him so much in the last couple of years when he was having his war with the royal family he she didn't want to get tarnished by any of the fallout from spare completely absent you know when you would hope and expect your wife to be the your strength and stay and support you

through all of that you know I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were those sorts of tensions and certainly if Prince Harry comes back to England you can only imagine that things will get further down that line and you know what you were saying earlier about the Duke and Duchess of Windsor is very true you know they're both living in California now and I remember the hairdresser of Wallis Simpson the Duchess of Windsor doing the hair of the Duchess in the Villa Windsor in Franceess of windsor doing the hair of the duchess in the villa windsor in in france and as he was doing her hair he looked out into the garden and he could see the duke of windsor with six or seven pug dogs and he was trying to get the pugs to obey him and they wouldn't obey him and he thought my god this man used to be the king emperor in

command of millions of people he now can't get his dogs to to follow him or obey him and i think in a much smaller sense prince harry's probably thinking what have i thrown away i've lost all the respect of millions of people he now can't get his dogs to to follow him or obey him and i think in a much smaller sense prince harry's probably thinking what have i thrown away i've lost all the respect of my family and so forth all my military regiments everything that gave me some sense of certainty and identity and confidence in life has now gone and evaporated yeah and for what you know for what as a royal historian rfe you have obviously looked closely at the members of the family who are in the line of succession but not direct heir to the throne isn't there also just the crushing reality for Harry that his years of relevance have effectively gone because

all of the focus now is surely going to turn to the children of the prince and princess of wales and especially george but also charlotte and louis and so even if he were to return it's not like he's going to be some homecoming hero well we're just under 10 days away from his 40th birthday, and time is no friend to playboy princes. And the hair is going. The hair is going. As the Duke of York knows all too well, it's the sad fate of younger brothers to become ever more irrelevant. And whilst there's still some whilst they're slightly still, you know, youth and uh in the celebrity world of the young and the beautiful they will still make the covers but you know nobody expects prince andrew to have been on that even if he hadn't gone through what he'd been through he wouldn't be on the

covers of magazines once you become a middle-aged prince you cease being relevant to the paparazzi you cease being relevant to the talk shows and the newspapers and so forth it's an inevitable end which is why you have to ensure that you spend your time as prince making sure that you you cease being relevant to the talk shows and the newspapers and so forth it's an inevitable end which is why you have to ensure that you spend your time as prince making sure that you have a full and fulfilling life that pleases you which unfortunately doesn't seem to be the case for prince harry who will of course increasingly become an irrelevance as focus then goes on to the young children uh not only of course of um of Prince William and the Princess of Wales, but also, of course, we've got the wonderful royals working,

of course, the future royal working royals in the form of the children of the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh as well, who are going to become, I think, even more important in the years to come, helping to fill up the void caused by the absence of the York. I really hope so. They're such a lovely family. And I was one of the people who was campaigning for Edward to become the Duke of Edinburgh and thank goodness Charles actually did allow that to happen because you remember there was a while where he was wavering on it and I think it is really good

and we should see that family booster because they're exactly what royals should be do you know what Rave sometimes I think it's in comedy uh that you see the absurdity of a situation and you know one of my favorite comedians is this brilliant andrew lawrence who actually first found fame uh for his videos mocking prince harry and guess what today he's back as harry and it's brilliant watch this either my father nor my brother have said sorry explicitly for the way they've treated myself and my incredibly popular, accomplished and successful wife. Even though they've shown no outward signs of regret, remorse, contrition, and we're not really on speaking terms,

nonetheless, I accept their apology, tacit as it may be. And even though they haven't asked me directly to step back into the royal fold to take on some royal responsibilities, I know that that's what they want. I like to think that I'm still one of the most respected members of the royal family, even in the face of all evidence to the contrary. Obviously things are going really well for me out here in Montecito, lots of friends, not lonely at all. Of course, the deals with Spotify and Netflix didn't work out as well as I'd hoped, but we push on undeterred. My relationship with my wife is better than ever. She doesn't let me in the house as often as I might wish, but what we find is the less we see of each other, the stronger our love grows, and also less chance of me sustaining

physical injury. Anyway, what I'm'm saying is if i was invited back into the royal fold i would certainly consider it even though things are going really well for me out here and i'm absolutely not regretting any of my life choices so yeah william if you're watching this you know i've messaged you a few times whatsapp text message email facebook insta just loads of messages actually just get back to me when you can please get back to my phone isn't that brilliant and you know what very close to the truth because william is not returning those messages rave he's not i think that's a pretty accurate uh accurate monologue there actually i

wouldn't be surprised if some version of that actually came out of montecito at some point in the near future what more can you say you said it perfectly he really did uh rave do stand by don't go anywhere because coming up in the uncancelled after show, Ian McKellen's shocking attack on the late queen and backing Prince Harry, plus accusations that Meghan Markle is engaging in poverty porn. We'll cover it all as well as this major tribute to the late queen as well. You know it's important to me that we have a safe space, not patrolled by big tech, where censorship and control runs deep. So that's why we have www.outspoken.live. It is our membership section where you get half an hour of extra content every day.

So what we do at this point is come off YouTube and Rumble. We move to our own platform to continue our conversation in the uncancelled after show. All you have to do is register at www.outspoken.live now we are back monday at 5 p.m uk in time midday eastern 9 a.m pacific hit subscribe right now on youtube and rumble turn on the notification bell have a brilliant weekend i promise to keep fighting for you but hope to see you on the after show in just one minute