Dan Wootton Outspoken - REFORM UK'S NIGEL FARAGE REVEALS HOW HE'LL BECOME PM AFTER 2 HUGE DEFECTIONS FROM TORIES

Episode Date: September 9, 2024

They’re panicking, folks. As Reform UK surges and Nigel Farage secretly plots how to become prime minister in 2029, the hard left are becoming increasingly deranged. Two Tier Keir is banging on about the far right and still refusing to even discuss immigration, while the TUC conference are spreading blatant lies about Farage. In his Digest, Dan says Labour should be paranoid about the political revolution that is coming. Then his Superstar Panel – Russell Quirk and Nick Buckley – weigh in. PLUS: The Ofcommunists fail in policing the BBC’s disgusting pro-Hamas bias. AND: An exclusive interview with the two latest Tory defectors to Reform UK. To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show for 30-minutes extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It won't take long to tell you Neutral's ingredients. Vodka, soda, natural flavors. So, what should we talk about no sugar added neutral refreshingly simple no spin no bias no censorship i'm'm Dan Wooten. This is Outspoken Live, episode number 47. And some good news for once to kick off with today. Breaking right now. Catherine, the Princess of Wales, has in the last few minutes announced that she has finished chemotherapy and will be slowly returning to public life as she shares a beautiful family video.

But sources at Kensington Palace stress she is not yet completely cancer-free. There is still a long way to go on her journey. The great thing is we can hear directly from her about what she's gone through. This time has above all reminded William and me to reflect and be grateful for the simple yet important things in life, which so many of us often take for granted, of simply loving and being loved. Doing what I can to stay cancer-free is now my focus. Although I have finished chemotherapy,

my path to healing and full recovery is long, and I must continue to take each day as it comes. I am, however, looking forward to being back at work and undertaking a few more public engagements in the coming months when I can. Despite all that's gone before, I enter this new phase of recovery with a renewed sense of hope and appreciation of life. I'll show you much more about what Catherine has to say about her slow return to public life as she bids to become fully cancer-free later in the show.

But some good news, some happy news. Welcome back, Catherine. I think we needed that, didn't we? Two years since the death of the late Queen. What a road it has been for the royal family. But in politics today, they are panicking, folks. As Reform UK surges and Nigel Farage secretly plots how to become UK Prime Minister in 2029, the hard left are becoming increasingly deranged. Do you have ambitions to be Prime Minister? I have ambitions for Reform to be the biggest party at the next general election. But you have to bring in the... But Do Take Care is banging on about the far right and still refusing to even discuss immigration

i am worried about the rise of the far right i mean we can see what's happening in germany with the recent elections see what's happening in fr and other countries. And I'm worried about the far right. Well, at the TUC, the conference speakers are spreading blatant lies about Farage. Nigel Farage isn't a friend of the working class. He's a fraud. A public school educated, private equity loving, NHS privatising, Putin apologist fraud. How despicable.

In my digest next, I'll argue that Labour should be paranoid about the political revolution that is coming. Then my brilliant superstar panel, Russell Quirk and Nick Buckley weigh in. Also coming up today, the Ofcommunists fail in policing the BBC's disgusting pro-Hamas bias, and an exclusive interview with the two latest Tory defectors to reform UK. Then in the uncancelled aftershow, a royal special with Meghan Markle's sister, Samantha Markle, about a shock twist in the estranged siblings' bombshell legal row, and the Duchess of Sussex reappearing in public with Oprah Winfrey on the second anniversary of the late Queen's death. You can register to watch on our website right now, www.outspoken.live. It's a safe space, free of censorship. Your support is just

£5 a month. It gives you 30 minutes of extra content every single weekday, but critically, it allows me to continue making this outspoken independent daily news show. Let's go. Mark my words, Tutek Estama will be the most unpopular and unsuccessful post-war British Prime Minister. Despite his massive majority, he has absolutely no chance of lasting for five years in Downing Street. It's impossible, let me tell you, because this arrogant, lying charlatan and chameleon is at war with his own people. He thinks he's keeping a lid on it by jailing white working class folk for so-called rioting or fruity social media posts for disproportionately long periods,

but that can only last for so long. Because we know we're not far right. No matter how many times he implies being deeply concerned about mass unrestrained immigration for decades and an illegal invasion of our southern border via the channel makes us so. There was more of his usual bullshit this weekend. Do you think that leaders in this country, perhaps also if you look at what we've seen in Germany, also look at what's happened in France, do you think that leaders have been complacent about the rise of the far right? hefyd edrych ar beth sy'n digwydd yng Nghymru. Ydych chi'n meddwl bod arweinyddion wedi bod yn gymhleth am y cynydd o'r ddeallawd? Rwy'n bwysig am y cynydd o'r ddeallawd.

Gwnaethom weld beth sy'n digwydd yn Ylwyr gyda'r diwethaf, gweld beth sy'n digwydd yng Nghymru a phobl eraill. Rwy'n bwysig am y ddeallawd oherwydd mae'n ysgol o'r ateb hawdd. Rwy'n ymwybodol bod y ateb i'w ffordd yw cyflawni yn y Llywodraeth. Felly, y farn gorau yn y Llywodraeth, y farn gorau yn y ateb hawdd, yw cyflawni, dod i'r newid yr ydym wedi'i ddychrydu. A'r newid hwn oedd gwella standardau byw,

felly bydd pobl yn well, i sicrhau bod gwasanaethau cyhoeddus yn gweithredu yn iawn, yn enwedig y GIG, living standards so people are better off, to make sure we've got properly functioning public services, particularly the NHS, and to deal with issues like immigration and crime and sewage. We have to deliver on that. And that's why I'm utterly focused on ensuring we can bring back about that change in the period that we've got in government. Who is this far right? he speaks of. What is this snake oil? Let me tell you, that line is not going to hold. As Peter Lloyd posted on X, The far right aren't stabbing kids. The far right don't roam the streets with machetes.

The far right aren't 90% of MI5's watch list. The far right don't blow up trains and pop concerts. The far right aren't grooming white girls. The far-right doesn't really exist. Chris Rose added, Keir Starmer told the BBC he's worried about the rise of the far-right. No mention of Islamist terrorism, which accounts for approximately 67% of attacks since 2018, about three-quarters of the MI5 caseload,

the sectarian MPs who ran dirty campaigns against Labour MPs. And Chris Davies continued, Since 2005, 95 people have been murdered by Muslim extremists. Three people have been murdered by the quote-unquote far-right. Over 90% of people on the security forces terror watch list are Muslims. Over 75% of their caseload are Muslims. But the far right is the problem? Indeed, it was only after Laura Koonsberg, in full British bashing corporation mode, tried to get Starmer to condemn the so-called rioters as racist that slippery Starmer

finally, finally mentioned the word immigration before immediately shutting the discussion down again. Watch this extraordinary exchange. Do you think the rioters were racists? I think they're far right. I think there was racism there. I think it featured differently across the country. I went over to Belfast, for example, to talk to the police service of Northern Ireland

who had petrol bombs thrown at them. And there's no doubt there was racism there. er enghraifft, i siarad â'r Gwasanaeth Cyhoeddus Cymru, a oedd ganddo bombau petro yn eu troi arnynt. sylwadau am bethau fel ymigrwyd. Rwy'n cydnabod hynny, ond dydw i ddim yn barod i ddilysu y math hwn o ddisgyrfa o ran unrhyw amgylchedd, na fyddwn i'n newid polisi Llywodraeth un peth oherwydd y math hwn o wahanol. Ydych chi'n credu ein bod yn wlad rhaethol? Dydw i ddim yn credu ein bod yn wlad rhaethol. Rwy'n credu ein bod yn wlad o bobl ddysg, pobl hyderus. Roedd y bobl sydd wedi dod allan y came out the day after in Southport. It was incredible. People came out with their trowels, with their brooms, they cleaned up, they rebuilt. They're the real face of Britain and that's the Britain that I think is essential to reuniting

and bringing this country back together. The takeaway from that could not be any more clear, could it? it caring about immigration according to both the national broadcaster and the national government makes you racist so we're not even going to have the discussion with you plebs no wonder nigel farage is thinking seriously about becoming prime minister in 2029 as i have predicted he will, by making Reform UK the biggest party. Do you have ambitions to be Prime Minister? I have ambitions for Reform to be the biggest party at the next general election. But you have to bring in the Tories.

You have to do something with the Tories to get to that position, don't you? Or do you think you can somehow get Reform to the biggest party without the conservative support it just doesn't seem to add up well no nothing i've ever done is added up uh fighting to leave the european union didn't add up there are many many many unlikely things that happen in the world of politics look we just finished a general election you know i'm laying out a five-year plan with a very very capable competent uh young businessman called zia yusuf who's now chairman of the party and we are building a national political party and whatever happens happens but i do think this i do think that the growth of reform if it happens in the way that i believe it can will come at the expense of the labour party not the conservative

and you and you would if if you win that, if you won that election, you would want to be Prime Minister, you want to lead this country? Well, I mean, you know, yes, if it's me, but who knows, by then somebody younger and better looking than me may have come along. You know, we're right at the beginning of a five-year project, and

I think even little samples of weekly by-elections that take place on district councils up and down the country are showing that reform actually is doing well since the election, that we have a membership that is growing very, very quickly. No, no, we are very much on the up. It's going to be you. We know it's going to be you. So predictably, at the TUC, Paul Nowak described Reform UK's barrage as a Putin apologist fraud. Watch.

And they represent this country far better than the far right ever will. Dwi ddim yn credu ar gyfer un adeg bod y rhan fwyaf o'r rhai a wnaethon nhw adael reformaeth ar y diwethaf yn rhaid i'r rhai yn ystyried. Ond gadewch i mi ddweud hyn yn glir ac yn unigol. Nidol Farage nid yw'n ffrind o'r clas gwaith. Mae'n ffrod. A public school educated, private equity loving, NHS privatising, Putin apologist fraud. Absolute rubbish, of course. Blatant lies. In fact, defamatory lies if Nigel wanted to go down that path. But what this is all about, in my opinion, is this panic that is gripping the left in this country

as they realise that it's not the conservatives they need to be worried about it's reform uk how thin skin is slip free starmer by the way to the extent where he cannot even have our greatest post-war prime minister a true conservative who probably would now be described as a member of the far right, Margaret Thatcher, staring down at him. Count on Canada Life's flexible life and health insurance to help your business keep working, even when you can't. Don't let life's challenges stand in the way of your success. Protect what you've built today. Visit canadalife.com slash businessprotection to learn more.

Canada Life. Insurance. Investments. Advice. To make it more comfortable, let's take down the portrait of Margaret Thatcher that was put there by Gordon Brown, aif Weinidog Llywodraeth. Oedd hi'n rhywbeth yn fach? Oedd hi'n gwneud chi'n teimlo'n anghyfforddus, yn gwylio atoch chi yn y astudiaeth? Wel, y peth cyntaf yw, doedd Gordon Brown ddim yn ystyried ei fod yn y astudiaeth. Roedd hi'n cael ei gosod ar rywle arall. Roedd David Cameron yn ei gosod i mewn i'r astudiaeth. Roeddwn i'n defnyddio'r astudiaeth i ddarllen yn y mwyaf o ddyfodolau lle mae angen i mi gael papur anodd. Nid yw hyn yn ymwneud â Margaret Thatcher o gwbl.

Dwi ddim yn hoffi ddau o ffotograffau a phoeni o bobl yn ymwneud â nhw. Roeddwn i'n ei ddod o hyd i'r blaen. Roeddwn i'n cael ffotograffau o ddyddwyr. Dwi ddim yn hoffi hynny. Dwi'n hoffi ysgafnion. Fy astudiaeth yw fy mhrofiad lle rwy'n mynd i weithio. Doeddwn i ddim eisiau ffotograff o unrhyw un. Mae'n ffot it's my private place where I go to work. I didn't want a picture of anyone. It's a picture of landscapes.

As a lawyer, people tried to persuade me that I needed pictures of judges staring at me the whole time. I didn't like it. I don't like it anymore if they're politicians. There isn't any politician staring at me in my study where I just get on with the work I need to get on with. Like with everything with Slippery Starmer, he was lying there. Because as James Hill, the journalist, pointed out, an FOI shows his Commons office does have five portraits and a bust, all of former premiers Churchill, Melvin, Disraeli and Peel. Esther McVeigh, the former Tory cabinet minister, wrote, I think we can safely conclude that whenever Starmer's lips are moving, it is a bare-faced lie. And for that reason, I come back to my initial case, that there is no way this guy who is at war with us, at war with the silence majority, is ever going to last five

years. But even if he does, it's very clear that the biggest threat to his authority and Labour running this country into the ground over the next decade is a certain Nigel Farage. Now let me bring in today's superstar panel. And it is brilliant to have back with me today, Nick Buckley, MVE, the charity, campaigner and political activist who actually previously did run to be the Mayor of Manchester under the Reform UK umbrella. He has done it again since though as an independent. And joining us for the first time on Outspoken, but I'm a big fan of this man, Russell Quirk, the property expert, political commentator and columnist. So Nick, because you have this

previous relationship with Reform UK, let me kick off with you. What do you make of this growing paranoia and growing fear within the far left? You saw it at the TUC conference there, but you also see it with Slip Re-Starmor himself trying to turn Nigel Farage into public enemy one and also brand anyone who supports what he has to say as quote unquote far right. The left and the elite in this country have been quite happy with the Tories because the Tories are basically socialists anyway. Reform of offering something different. Reform of saying we're going to be different and we're not part of the uni party, we're not part of the elite,

and we're going to bring change. That terrifies them because you cannot control that. They have no idea if reform gets to power what they're going to do. We all knew what the Tories are going to do, which is exactly the same as what Labour were going to do. So just that one fact terrifies them. And that's why the next five years, three years,

are all about demonisation of Farage and reform. And down the line, they will start going after the supporters of Reform UK as well. Russell Quirk, you believe that Keir Starmer is actually the biggest threat to our democracy since World War II. What do you mean? Yeah, I do, because he has now revealed himself rather more quickly than we thought as a tyrant and as an autocrat. I think he stole the election under false pretenses.

I think he pretended to be rather Blairite, Dan, really, in that he was all about wealth and growth and home ownership. You know, actually, you could argue that those policies are rather right wing, rather conservative. And within minutes of landing in Downing Street, he ends up showing his colours as an extreme left wing, ideologically driven autocrat. I mean, he is of the extreme left. And we're seeing that. And by the way, the people that actually want to put in comments now saying, well, you know, he's not that bad. I mean, this guy is worse than Jeremy Corbyn. At least with Jeremy Corbyn, you knew what you were getting. This guy is a politician and a prime minister by stealth. And not only has he done things already that are not in the manifesto, so for instance,

the early release of 40,000 dangerous prisoners, immigration amnesties, stealing 10 million pensioners winter fuel allowance from all these things that were not in the manifesto. But I would go further, I think this man is so driven by a kind of sixth form ideology, which is of the far left. That's why he's so worried about reform, because he knows that by him lurching to the left and presumably staying there as long as he can stay in place, there's going to be a huge gap, a huge vacuum to fill, particularly if the Tories mess up the leadership contest, which I think they probably will. that vacuum is going to be filled by reform. So a man that labels his opponents

as something of a bogeyman type nature, we've kind of seen that before in the late 1930s when Hitler did that to the Jews. Also seen back in the late 1930s, the Nazis starting to at first vilify, then censor, then imprison their political opponents. Now, that's rather familiar over the last three or four weeks, Dan, isn't it? I totally agree. And the thing is, people will say it's hyperbole. The mainstream media don't even want to cover it.

But I'm sorry, we see evidence of this two-tier policing. Look, there are some of the victims of it on a daily basis at the moment and it is completely disturbing you know people who cause no injury to anyone being locked up for nine years while muslim men who literally beat up three women at a police at a at a petrol sorry, receive no jail time whatsoever. So that is going on. Nick Buckley, what about the personality of Nigel Farage? What do you think he has to do in order to become prime minister?

And can he? Oh, that's a hell of a question. What, I've no idea. I'm sure he's got a better idea than me what he needs to do um i'm not a politician i think if i was going to give him any advice it's all about how do we how does he connect to the average brit in the uk because the average person i speak to a sick of all politicians a sick of all political. We've been lied to for at least, well, for generations, but definitely for 30 years.

Keir Starmer is just the latest person in this long line. And the only way Keir Starmer is different is he's either not clever enough, which I doubt, or he doesn't care about the mask anymore now. He's ripped the mask off and he's saying to the people, I'm here, there's nothing you can do about it, and it's my way or the highway. Our last five politicians have been exactly the same. Our last five members of the Prime Minister have been exactly the same,

but they didn't have the cojones to say that to the British people. So I think Nagaraj needs to connect with the average people because they want something different. They want to be patriotic. They don't want to be called far right. They just want a better life, and it doesn't take much to give us a better life. Russell, are you a fan of Farage?

I am. I think Farage is our new Thatcher. You'd mentioned Thatcher previously. That might be the real reason that Keir Starmer's taken her portrait down. I don't think any of us buy into this bunkum that it's because her portrait is staring down at him. If that is true, it's because he's probably ashamed of what he's doing and knows that if he were to face Thatcher across the ballot box, the dispatch box these days, I mean, that would be a sight, wouldn't it? He'd be absolutely destroyed by Thatcher. And I think he fears Farage as the new Thatcher. And what I mean by that is

not just the fact that they share very, very similar principles. And let's be clear, Dan, Farage is not this kind of, you know, this extremist, this far right individual that, of course, the mainstream media would have us believe. If you look at everything that the Reform Party is saying, everything that Farage has said, everything that was in that contract with the public in the run up to the July 4th election, there's nothing in there that wouldn't have been in the Conservative manifesto of 1979. So reform, in my view, and I say this as a proud Thatcherite, reform, in my view, are conservative. Of course, the previous conservative government was not very conservative. And that's what Keir Starmer is concerned about. But to kind of answer Nick's question or expand

on Nick's answer a little, I think that the Reform Party are new. They don't have much in the way of ground support. I think they have some very very talented people amongst them you know particularly i mean richard tyers ben habib um you know we can go on and on um obviously that would expand there'll be more defections there were actually two defections from the conservative party on south end city council yes i've got them on later in the show are they oh fantastic yes for an exclusive interview so i can't wait to hear about why they so there'll be a lot more of that so but i think they need ground support well what i saw where i live in brooklyn and essex which is a very conservative constituency was that

the conservatives traditionally have lots and lots of people out there to knock on doors and canvas and leaflet reform didn't have that so i think nick's right about connecting with the public but i think if the public. But I think if the public want change, and I know we overuse this word, we always need change, don't we, based on the current regime. But I think if we really, really want to save Britain from being completely destroyed, frankly, as it will be over the next two or three years, as we lurch back to the 1970s, I think people have got to get out to physically help reform on the doorsteps. We've got to get the message out there. We've got to get leaflets. Now, when I say we, you know, I'm not

suggesting for a second that I'm necessarily a dyed-in-the-wool Reform Party member or activist. But if we want there to be an antithesis to the Labour Party and its extreme left approach, but also a very, very insipid Conservative Party that are largely irrelevant now as far as the electorate are concerned, then people have got to get out there and help the Reform Party on the doorsteps. Indeed. You mentioned some of those talented people. Richard Tice is one of them, and he has been campaigning hard on the issue of two-tier policing, specifically involving this shocking case at Manchester Airport. Here's the latest on what he had to say about it.

The police have to get out body cam footage from their officers, CCTV footage, in order that the truth is told. And unbelievably, here we are, I think some six or seven weeks on, as far as I'm aware, those gentlemen, you generously called them, who assaulted the police officers, they've still not been charged. Now, quite rightly, when you had those horrific riots recently, those who assaulted emergency workers and police officers were charged and brought to justice very promptly. Well, why haven't these two individuals been charged and brought to justice very promptly. Well, why haven't these two individuals been charged and brought to justice very promptly? I'll tell you why. It's because it's virtue signalling to an ethnic minority. That's why it's a serious allegation

I'm making. But I tell you what, this is absolute, past iron, bottom proof of two-tier policing, two-tier justice. It's absolute disgrace. But Sir Keir Starmer says that's not an issue. This is proof that it is an issue. And the fact that he's tetchy about it is also proof that it's for real. He's doing a great job on this, isn't he, Nick Buckley? Because it is completely true. How on earth can justice be rushed for a white working class person who happened to post something slightly offensive on Facebook or X and ends up locked up for three years.

But when it comes to people who are literally beating up the police, according to what we see on that CCTV footage, it goes at a snail's pace. Some groups in our community, in our country, have more value than others. So the white working class have no value to Labour. Have no value. They've stopped voting

for the Labour Party over generations. Most of them don't even go out and vote now. So they have no value. The Muslim community, on the other hand, are still supporting Labour.

Some of them are beginning to drift away so Labour are doing whatever they can now to retain that Muslim bloc vote because they're important to Labour. So this interference, this political interference with the police is to secure that vote. I used to be based in police stations 20 years ago. I've trained police officers when I've worked for Manchester Council. I saw 20 years ago two-tier policing.

It's been going on for decades and decades. All that's happened now since Black Lives Matter and then since we've got mobile phones, we've got cameras on on our phones is we get to see it every day now but 20 years ago nobody saw that unless you worked with the police yeah which is one of the reasons isn't it russell you have the likes of tony blair wanting to shut down social media well yes they want to censor elon musk shut down social media, or rather the people on social media that they don't agree with. You know, you hear from some, again, I call them far left commentators that they think the internet should be regulated. They don't like opinions that don't accord with their own, and certainly don't like freedom of speech and and the the fact is the logic around that is that you know in a free society in a society where there is freedom of expression and free speech it comes down to the power of an individual's argument so you either win the argument on the argument by way of logic and persuasion and data or you don't now if you lose the argument it probably means that you're

wrong if you win the argument it probably means that you're wrong. If you win the argument, it probably means that you're right. What the left are fantastic at doing is shutting down political opponents that they disagree with, because despite the fact that political opponents like those assembled on this show now, they can't argue successfully. So their only resolution is to shut people down even as far as the likes of yes elon musk and others that are you know powerful voices and again i come back to the point this is tyranny this is something at the late 1930s and and we should be very very it's woke tyranny but it is tyranny. It is. And, you know, there's, you know, the fact of the matter is what the Labour, what left leaners, whether it's the Green Party, because they're left wing, extreme, actually, in some respects, the Lib Dems and Labour, what they're concerned about with regard to the example of the Manchester airport thugs, the four of them that haven't yet been charged seven

weeks later, they're simply concerned about backlash and optics and perception. In city centres where there's huge ethnic minority populations, they simply don't want to upset them. And again, where have we heard that before? Where is that familiar from in our fairly recent history in Britain? I'll tell you where it's familiar from, and that's the Rochdale grooming gangs. We have it on record from police officers at the time, they didn't want to pursue those prosecutions. This is Pakistani Muslims raping 10, 12, 13 year old white British girls. They didn't want to pursue it because they didn't want to ignite bad feeling within those communities. Well, that I think is the very opposite of a fair and balanced approach to policing and the criminal justice system.

And by the way, who was involved in the Department of Prosecutions, the DPS, way back then? Keir Starmer. And he doesn't like to talk about that aspect of his record, does he? Just like he doesn't like to talk about the fact that he was the bloke who didn't charge Jimmy Savile. But breaking right now, the BBC breached its own editorial guidelines more than 1,500 times during the height of the Israel-Hamas war, a damning report has discovered. This has been revealed by the Sunday Telegraph, which says the corporation has shown a deeply worrying pattern of bias against Israel. The authors of the report analysed four months of the BBC's output across TV, radio,

online news, podcasts and social media. It was led by the British lawyer Trevor Anderson, who also found that Israel was associated with genocide more than 14 times than Hamas. Now, on Saturday, significantly, Danny Cohen, who is a former top BBC executive, warned that there is now a, quote, institutional crisis at the broadcaster and called for an independent inquiry into its coverage of the Israel-Hamas war. Now, I fully support that. But Richard Ticeice the deputy leader of reform uk has concluded also quite rightly that the completely corrupted state regulator

the off communists are not fit for purpose given they ignore the beebs bias even though it has been completely exposed by this report while doing all they can to target the so-called right broadcasting this country like focusing their attention on driving me off gb news watch what he had to say it is well my view is that offcom frankly is not fit for purpose and its treatment of other channels such as gb news compared to the way that it sort of um that it mollycoddles the bbc and you highlighted it there. The unfairness of the system, as Lucy said,

that the BBC can basically self-regulate itself on behalf of Ofcom. And so surprise, surprise, it behaves as it does. We all knew that it was clearly biased in its reporting of the horrific war in the Middle East. And yeah, I think that Ofcom's got some serious questions to answer. At the very least, Ofcom should directly respond to complaints about the BBC.

And the way they treat GB News and people like Talk TV is... I'm going to be a leveled advocate on this. As a journalist rather than a politician, Ofcom has expressed concerns that people like you and people like Nigel might come on a channel and start campaigning. But they didn't express any concerns about David Lammy, for example, a Labour MP, on LBC. No longer there though, Lammy's in office. But if you're going to be a regulator, you've got to deal with a fair and just and equal hand.

And they patently haven't done that. What's your view? haven't done that. It is a few. And Russell Quirk, there is absolutely no outrage whatsoever about this shocking display of bias from the BBC and the off-communists simply do not

give a damn because they are only there seemingly to drive anyone who's even slightly on the right off the mainstream media. In my opinion,

off-com should be disbanded. I mean, off-com do serve. Richard Tyson is absolutely right. They're not fit for purpose because they don't really suit a purpose. They don't solve anything. They don't serve a purpose. The fact that they are there to effectively filter content to the masses rather insults the intelligence of the masses, doesn't it? Because what they're effectively in place to do is to say, you're too stupid as a member of the public to understand that you're being campaigned to by Richard Tice or Nigel Farage or David Lammy, for instance. So therefore,

we have to be in place to tell you what the balance is. We're not idiots. We are not, we don't need to have Ofcom to do that. Now, with the BBC, of course, the fact that we don't, or we're not seeing huge outrage as a consequence of this report today, 1500 instances of bias, which by the way, is five instances of bias a day, five a day. I mean, it's absolutely astonishing. I mean, if this was GB News or talk, the fines that would be levied as a consequence of those indiscretions would be absolutely they would be all fair i mean they they would just be all fair and and i often say nick actually if the bbc was a private company come on it wouldn't have ceased to exist decades ago i mean covered up the biggest pedophile in the history of the uk had a pedophile

ring operating within it for decades an interview which they illicitly obtained quite possibly caused the death of the late princess diana i mean come on that that disgraceful Nick Buckley, aren't they? The BBC and Ofcom do exactly what they're paid to do, which is to benefit the government, hence why they won't change, hence why they'll carry on doing what they're doing unless someone like Nigel Farage and Reform take power, because they're part of the establishment, they're part of the status quo. And the reason why we've not had much outrage on this report

is as simple as this. We all know it. This isn't a surprise. This isn't news. We've known it for at least a decade that the BBC is a propaganda arm of the government, of the elite, of the far left. We see it every day.

We've got ears ears we've got eyes and what we need to remember um is a quote from Stalin when Stalin said we don't let our enemies have guns why should we let them have ideas and that's what the BBC and Ofcom is all about oh yes but they're actually moving to a much more chilling territory now with james o'brien the red cheek sociopath at lbc which i now call the labor broadcasting company and tony blair the psychotic former leader of this country who used misinformation to push us into an illegal war in Iraq, both now in some way calling for either full censorship and regulation of the internet and social media. Actually, let's just shut down X altogether. Watch this. The question of jurisdiction as well, you know, the server will be in one country,

the person writing the message will be in another country. We've arguably seen this a little bit with the riots recently. But do you foresee a point in the not too distant future where other countries are going to have to follow Brazil's lead and take actual action against platform owners for the dissemination of disinformation? Well, I certainly see a position where the world's going to have to come together and grease some rules around social media platforms and i think that that's you know quite quite what the answer is and what the right system of regulation is i'm not sure but i'm sure there should be and there's got to be because it's not it's not just you know how people can provoke you know hostility and hatred but i think and i i don't know what the answer this is you know it's i'm just saying that that. But we can't carry on as we are. But we can't carry on as we are.

And I think the impact on young people particularly when they've got access to mobile phones very young and they're reading a whole lot of stuff and receiving a whole lot of stuff that I think is really messing with their minds in a big way. And as I say, I'm not sure what the answer to it is, but I'm sure we need to find it. I mean, Russell Quirk, you speak of tyranny.

Come on. And for those two to be talking about misinformation, because we know about Blair's misinformation, but what about James O'Brien's misinformation? Platforming. Carl Beach, who was the biggest fantasist in British history, who accused all of these completely innocent people of paedophilia. When he was the paedophile.

Two individuals that have been responsible for more misinformation and disinformation than just about any other two that I can think of, calling for regulation. But they don't mean regulation. And actually, like you, Dan, I think, and you, Nick, when I hear words from people like that, that are of rules and regulations, it does send a shiver down my spine. Because they don't really mean regulation or rules. What they mean is control. And what they really mean by control is that we should be doing saying and thinking what they believe is best for us and of course when there's dissenters particularly now we've got

social media which is pretty inconvenient really for people like Keir Starmer and James O'Brien and Tony Blair because people have a voice and so of course they will want it shut down I mean that's why you don't have Twitter in China or facebook in korea uh i mean you see a pattern emerging here oh yes oh yes and actually nick just before i get you to respond i have to play you my favorite new comedian andrew lawrence who as james o'brien was able to sum up the madness of the situation just perfectly today. All these people complaining on social media, these far-right Nazi fascists on Elon Musk's X platform, complaining about the state of things,

whinging on about two-tier this, two-tier that. These people are an utter disgrace to the nation. Isn't it time we shut down the internet? Or at least to stop people from expressing opinions that I don't like? It's out of control, Isn't it time we shut down the internet or at least to stop people from expressing opinions that I don't like? It's out of control, isn't it? All the misinformation on social media, people spreading facts that conflict with my worldview. This can't go on. People say, oh, we don't have freedom of speech in this country. Well, we do. But if you exercise it, you shouldn't complain if you then have to do

a bit of prison time. We can't have people who aren't part of the left-wing liberal establishment just going around saying things in public whenever they like, regardless of the consequences. That's not how things work, is it? And look, you may disagree with me on that, but ultimately that's only a demonstration of your own ignorance and racism. I'm sick and tired of it. I'm sick and tired of telling stupid people how right I am about everything. But it pays well, so let's open the phone lines. Nick Buckley, this is how they think.

It is. I mean, LBC, we all know the internet's not perfect. Social media's not perfect. X is not perfect. You know, we know there's lies out there. We know people use it to promote their own agenda or to commit crime or to incite violence. We all know that to be true. What we need to understand is no matter what we do to control that, we'll end up in a worse place.

Because the people you think or you hire to control the internet will always be the last people we should give that power to. So we'll end up in a worse place. That doesn't mean where we are now is perfect, because it's not. But I would rather have this open, free flow of information where we've got to perfect because it's not but i would rather have this open free flow of information where we've got to be a bit more clever and we've got to work out what are the lies and let's take some personal responsibility and what we believe and what we don't believe i'd rather be in that position than having someone being paid to tell me what's true and what isn't

true and it's worse than that them being paid to make sure i never see what they don't want me to see because in that grouping will be all the things i should have seen very well put very well put now look do stand by russell quirk and nick buckley because in just one minute i'm going to be showing you this very emotional new video from Catherine the Princess of Wales who has some big new information to share with the world. Also coming up an exclusive interview as I mentioned to Russell earlier with the two Reform UK defectors who have joined Farage's party from the Conservatives. First though, digestive issues are caused by a potential toxin that's in all of the quote healthy foods that scientists have been

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at gutcleansprotocol.com forward slash outspoken and click on the link in the description below. But now back to the show and breaking right now, Catherine, the Princess of Wales, has announced that she has finished her chemotherapy treatment, but she is not out of the woods in a highly personal and emotional video featuring Prince William,

her parents and her beautiful children, released just before we came on here today. Watch. As the summer comes to an end, I cannot tell you what a relief it is to have finally completed my chemotherapy treatment. The last nine months have been incredibly tough for us as a family. Life as you know it can change in an instant. And we've had to find a way to navigate the stormy waters and road unknown. The cancer journey is complex, scary and unpredictable for everyone, especially those closest to you.

With humility, it also brings you face to face with your own vulnerabilities in a way you've never considered before. And with that, a new perspective on everything. Is this filming? Isn't she wonderful? This is a video that would have been very difficult for Catherine to make. You know how much criticism she's had over the past few months. She has decided not to share the specifics of what form of cancer she is being treated for. But aside from that, it's a deeply personal insight into her world.

And you know I have been reporting for months that Catherine's number one priority is her family, is being a mother, and is making sure that her children, especially the future king, are prepared to cope with what is a very destabilizing thing. But despite there being a lot of speculation, she has confirmed that she will return to royal duties. But as I have reported here recently with Robert Jobson, this is going to be a very slow process because Catherine has made it abundantly clear in what I'm about to show you that her number one focus and i agree with this by the way her number one focus is making sure she stays cancer free this time has above all reminded william and me to reflect and be grateful for the simple yet important things in life which so many of us often take for granted,

of simply loving and being loved. Doing what I can to stay cancer-free is now my focus. Although I have finished chemotherapy, my path to healing and full recovery is long, and I must continue to take each day as it comes. I am, however, looking forward to being back at work and undertaking a few more public engagements in the coming months when I can. Despite all that's gone before, I enter this new phase of recovery

with a renewed sense of hope and appreciation of life. William and I are so grateful for the support we've received and have drawn great strength from all those who are helping us at this time. Everyone's kindness, empathy and compassion has been truly humbling. To all those who are continuing their own cancer journey, I remain with you, side by side, hand in hand. Out of darkness can come light. So let that light shine bright. A royal video for the history books.

Catherine, the Princess of Wales, announcing that she has finished her chemotherapy treatment in her own way. And it is interesting, isn't it, when you contrast her approach to her family and revealing deeply personal information compared to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, who have been so keen to throw their own family under the bus over the past few years. Let me bring in my superstar panel, Nick Buckley and Russell Quirk. Russell, wow, great news to see Catherine back and she's doing things in her own way. She is genuinely what a woman, what a rock actually given what she's been through. And I know the term national treasure is very overused, but I think that that term absolutely applies to Kate. And incredible to see that she's on the road to recovery, of course.

And I think it actually does renew our faith a little bit in the royals. Obviously, the royals have had somewhat of a patchy time over recent years but when you see that video which actually i think despite what all the cynics will say is that looks like a very genuine pastiche of their family enjoying themselves it looked to me to be very authentic so i i do think it should give us some faith that let's hope the next step of the royal family won't be as blighted as perhaps the last uh five or more years have been. I do have to ask the question, though. I don't know if you know the answer to this.

Has Meghan Markle and Harry extended a statement to support Catherine in the last few minutes and hours and to show their support? It should be, one would imagine, the first thing that Meghan and Harry would do having seen that video today, wouldn't it be? And indeed it should be. And they didn't do that actually after this video. They did do it after she announced that she had cancer. But what I think is so despicable is that Harry was actually in the same room as his elder brother, Nick Buckley, just last week at the funeral for Lord Fellows,

their uncle, the husband of Princess Diana's sister. And he didn't even speak to William. He didn't go up to William and say, look, I know I've said terrible things about you, but how's Catherine doing? I hope she's OK. And I think when you see a video like that and you've been so horrible to these people, I mean, think of all of the things Harry said in spare about William and about Catherine, too, actually. And the things that Meghan has said about Catherine. Oh, how can you watch a video like that and think that what you did was right?

I mean, they should be apologizing, in my opinion, as in Harry and Meghan should be apologising to William and Catherine. The white chocolate macadamia cream cold brew from Starbucks is made just the way you like it. Handcrafted cold foam topped with toasted cookie crumble. It's a sweet summer twist on iced coffee. Your cold brew is ready at Starbucks. I don't discuss Prince Harry. Family matters, families fall out. People say things they may regret or not regret. But it's fantastic news that she's finished chemo. It's fantastic news when anybody, when any family get over such a serious problem like that.

So I'm extremely happy about that. I'm also extremely happy that that video looks fantastic. We need a royal family in this country because what we need to understand, if we don't have a royal family, we don't have a royal and monarch head of state, that means we're going to have an elected head of state. And that means someone like Tony Blair, David Cameron. It would be a fail. No, no.

Gary Lineker. David Beckham. Don't even suggest it. Yeah, well, that's exactly what will end up. And we'll end up with an elected head of state. And even though the monarchy, role family are not perfect, and in a time where we celebrate democracy, they're not elected, I get all that

but the alternative for me is a lot worse so fantastic that she's getting better yeah indeed we need that family to be strong uh i couldn't agree with you more a lot hinges on them when it comes to the monarchy because as russell pointed out it hasn't been smooth sailing the past five years but what a fabulous superstar panel today. So grateful to have you back, Nick Buckley and Russell Quirk. What a debut. I hope you will return soon. Thank you both so much. But don't go anywhere because in just one minute, I'm speaking to those two Reform UK defectors, one of whom left the Conservatives after 30 years to join Nigel Farage's party.

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second force in British politics. But Nigel Farage insists he isn't trying to secure a defection from former Home Secretary Suella Braverman. Watch. Busy autumn for you. You've got your conference coming up. Are you expecting any defections from the Conservative Party to reform the UK, namely Suella Braverman?

I haven't been trying. I'm not really interested. Why do you say that? Oh, because Conservatives spend their lives hating each other and fighting each other. I want to try and build a unified party that believes in something. And if there are some conservatives who are prepared to put behind them all that petty infighting,

then fine. But I'm not spending any of my time, any of my effort, doing it. Frankly, what I've been doing for the last month and a half, above all, is building a national political structure for reform so that we can fight elections in all of the years to come. That's my main focus. Speaking for the first time about their decision to ditch the Tories for Reform UK, I'm delighted to be joined now by Tony Cox and Daryl Jones. So, Tony, three decades as a Tory, the leader in Southend, But you've upped and left to join Farage.

And actually, you've called some of your ex-colleagues sort of along similar lines to what Nigel was saying there as savages. So this was a big decision. What sparked it? It's actually a journey. One of the things that happened locally was we were behaving very differently to the National Party. Now, when you leave a political party, you do go on a journey.

There's no doubting that. As I say, 30 years of Conservative Party membership. I've been an elected Conservative councillor for 20 years. I was leader of Southend City Council just last year. First Conservative leader of the City Council for many a year. COVID tested my patience. Vaccine passports nearly tipped me over the edge. And it was only the local party chairman said,

look, what we're trying to do here locally stay so we did and after the general election it became abundantly clear that they wanted to go the same way as what the national party were doing and what nigel has said there is absolutely spot on it's not just petty infighting look some of the things that i've had to deal with i'll i'll take to the grave with me but the behavior was appalling and so you're talking about from conservatives absolutely and the behavior what sort of thing well let's just say potential assaults on council workers. Oh, my goodness. That's minor.

But that gives you some things. And it did come to a point, Dan, where I stopped liking myself. When you stop liking yourself, you have to do something about it. And it was all, at the moment, the Conservatives are just tearing themselves apart this leadership election which has only just started will be a bloodbath and it's a blood bath because what they wanted to do here in Southend was lurch further to the left and it was one of the leadership contenders who actually said and they got it spot- on when they said that

they wanted to talk like conservatives but govern like labor there was not not not true a word said no indeed and that's what they have been doing daryl what about you why make the decision to defect? For me, as Tony said, it is a journey. And my journey was a bit different to Tony's. He's been in the Conservative Party for, as he said, 30 years. Now, I've grew up in a very Labour-dominated area, but I always had centre-right views. And I think with the Conservative Party, they've not had a real challenge to maybe centre-right views. And I think with the Conservative Party, they've not had a real challenge

to maybe centre-right views ever. So I naturally got drawn into, okay, you've got centre-right views, you're a Conservative. So I joined the party, I wasn't a career politician, and instantly I saw the toxicity and it's like

the rot starts at the head in what I saw nationally I couldn't really agree with a lot of it, Tony touched on when with Covid I wasn't happy about how we managed that I wasn't happy about the parties that were happening but we couldn't see our grandparents for example um when rishi was ascended to the throne of the party without the members

being engaged i didn't like that but locally um under tony's leadership at the time we were very separated we were we were a cohesive unit was um there was no toxicity there really that i didn't see it we was great um holding labor's account when there was an administration i think we did a good job in administration when we were there when what came to her head with me is locally you can only part with so much right in the party i was already losing interest nationally and I just wasn't true to myself. Locally, the toxicity started flowing down. I don't know if you know much about Southend. There's an East and West association.

There's a lack of respect amongst each other. Well, I say amongst each other, amongst from, I'll say, over half of the group, fed through and I'll sit around thinking I was like I wouldn't put up with this in my daily life I've got too much integrity for this I've had enough and it wasn't the case of oh let's just jump ship to another party as Tony said there's a journey there so I could have gone we did go independent for the interim but I looked at the policies of reform I was like that doesn't just resonate with me as a political side of it there's also um a common sense side it's like a lot of these make

sense so even though they're a national uh a startup if you say party what are they doing what how are they building on that we can't just have a one and done general election where they kicked it to the Tories and they fizzle out. What really solidified it to me is how professional they're becoming. The associations they're looking to set up, the branches they're looking to set up, the membership growth, really establishing themselves as the party to either oppose Labour or what looks like if we continue in this trajectory really

challenge for government in five four or five years well I wanted to ask this actually I wanted to ask this because Tony some people have said I'm crazy but actually before the election the most recent election I wrote a piece saying that I believe that Nigel Farage will be Prime Minister in 2029. Now, of course, a lot of it is down to Nigel. Is he 100% committed to this cause? But he says he is, and he says his absolute goal and his number one desire is to make Reform UK the number one party in 2029 you look at what he was able to do in just four weeks with reform uk coming second to labor and so many constituencies especially across the red wall so tell me do you think barrage can be pm by 2029 it's a tall order but he he is of the belief it can be done and as you say what has been

done in four weeks but also as well what what daryl and i have found in just a couple of weeks ourselves i mean for example we've we found out the number of fully paid up members within the south end city area that reform have let's just say it's double to what the local conservative party is. When we found that, Daryl and I literally fell off our chairs. And we were told, oh, you're used to having low numbers. Low numbers, you know,

it would make reform the biggest political party within Southend in terms of number of members. Which is a revolution. Which is a revolution. It is a revolution. I mean, just before i come on your show today i i have one one lady asked me to go around to actually get help of where she doesn't have

internet on it to become a member it's these things just from the fact of what daryl and i have done but one thing as well and it should go it should go unnoticed here is we're talking about the petty and poor behavior of the Conservatives and I think this weekend nothing more solidifies the decision and on the nasty behavior is just looking at what Nadine Dorries and Matt Hancock were trying to do to thwart the public inquiry, or thwart a public inquiry, over the deaths of over 2,000 mental health sufferers in Essex. Now, the Lampard inquiry starts today, and it was well publicised in The Telegraph. What does that solidify about the nasty behavior when it has been identified that there has been failings and you didn't want to deal with it and it sums the conservative party

up at the moment is just being fixated on going through processes rather than doing dealing with the real real root cause of poor behavior. Yeah, really interesting, actually. The other thing that we're seeing is the hard left and the mainstream media start coming for Reform UK. Now, I always knew this was going to happen. It was actually a bit like my experience at GB News. First they laugh, then they try and ignore you, and then actually they try to destroy you.

And so we saw this article in The Times last week saying that Reform UK membership has been driven by quote-unquote keyboard warriors, with a Labour MP saying many of these are in their Transformers pyjamas in their mum's basement, but what we haven't seen yet is reform on the doorstep or speaking to voters so daryl you respond to that please are you in your transformers pajamas i most definitely am not although i wouldn't mind being right now but um when these it's not just that it's not just the left you've also got the conservatives also um attacking reform at the moment i don't blame them it's the first challenge they've had labour and conservative over the last i'll say five

sorry um over the last i would say the last five years, could you really see the difference between Labour and Conservatives? I don't think so. So this two party system, it benefits Labour and Conservatives to get rid of any challenger. And what we're seeing with this, with this growth amongst just the general population they're seeing the common sense they're seeing community being spoken about seeing the issues that they really care about now being addressed labor and conservative or the left and the right they are concerned that then they're not going to be the the power the power parties anymore you've already said Farage could be prime minister in 29 and the trajectory we're on, it very well could be.

And that's what they're concerned about. That power is being taken away and given back to the people, if you like. The policies that they've put in place, the issues that we're now talking about, the voices that me and Tony are giving to Southend alone is resonating. And the only way they can combat it is by

attack, because they can't attack the policies, they're attacking the people. But the problem is by attacking the people, it's the same people you're going to beg for votes in 29. Conservatives are going to go, you're all you reform voters, come back to the Conservatives. Don't worry what we said about you four or five years.

Don't worry how we ignored you. Don't worry about how we pilloried you as being on the far right and tried to pretend that actually you're you're you're you're too ridiculous to want to leave echr no i think you're completely right uh tony just a final word about what farage said at the top of the segment regarding suela braverman saying that he wasn't really interested isn't really trying now i don't know if that's true, actually, because I think Suala would be a real asset to the party. You've made the move after 30 years. So what is your message to high profile Tories like Suala Braverman, who, let's be honest, has been treated absolutely appallingly by CCHQ and

Conservative Party headquarters? Would you encourage her to join you what's interesting with what nigel said is he doesn't have to go out begging because there's plenty of people that as darren i know already in the system that they have actually now have a head of defections. Now, let that sink in. He doesn't have to go begging because there are enough people wanting to make that switch. And if people don't want to make that switch, they'll stay where they are,

and those that do will do it in their own time and in those journeys. But as I say, there are plenty of people within the Conservative Party who will have tales to tell about how they're being treated so I would agree he doesn't have to go begging because there are enough people at the door waiting to join as Darren and I found out and I don't think we're going to be the last and certainly after us there was one more in in a neighboring

constituency who who made that that jump there was four in a weekend as i say he doesn't have to go begging because people are already already doing that right yeah and i totally agree and i would say for mps like suella someone who i have a lot of respect for, like Priti Patel, who I have a lot of respect for. You're not winning. You're not winning your seat again at the next election with a conservative next to your name. Now, that might be shocking to you. That might be a really difficult reality. But I guarantee you that is the case.

Yes, some conservatives and Lib Dems sort of seat who are on the wet woke side of the party might but I believe there is a revolution coming in British politics. So Tony Cox and Daryl Jones, thank you so much for joining me to talk about your decision to defect from the Conservative Party and in Tony's case, after three decades, which is a really big decision. Thank you both so much. Now, a very sad note before we go.

We are losing the greatest generation. So I wanted to pay a heartfelt goodbye to Donald Don Shepard, also from Essex, who took part in the D-Day landings and has passed aged 104. Seven decades after that event, in 1944, the D-Day landings, you know, medical tests showed that Don had a sliver of shrapnel sitting in his lung. But he never complained. He said it never impacted his life. Instead, speaking of his World War II experience, he said, I shall never forget that for the rest of my life, how one human could do that to another.

Now, our outspoken founding member, Beverly Morris Beadle, knew Don since she was 10 years old. She tells me he was a remarkable man. Of that have absolutely no doubt and i know i share on behalf of all outspoken viewers that we shall never forget what you did don to fight for our freedom rest in peace and i just find it devastating that we're losing this generation. Now, up next, a royal special with Meghan Markle's sister, Samantha Markle, about a shock twist in the estranged sibling's bombshell legal case. You know, it's very important to me that we have a safe space not patrolled by big tech where censorship and control run deep. So that's why we have www.outspoken.live. It is our membership section

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