Dan Wootton Outspoken - RICHARD TICE & ISABEL OAKESHOTT THREATEN "WAR" ON OUTSPOKEN AS REFORM CIVIL WAR EXPLODES

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

BREAKING TODAY: It’s all out civil war in Reform UK over the ludicrous decision to parachute Nadhim Zahawi – the Muslim jab pushing tax scandal establishment Tory who had previously pushed for an ...amnesty to allow every single illegal immigrant to stay in the United Kingdom – into the heart of the party. But now it’s got personal from Isabel Oakeshott – the fiancé of Reform UK deputy leader Richard Tice who is a paid propagandist for the party on £250,000 a year from Talk TV to broadcast out of an apartment in Dubai. And Tice has threatened "war" on Outspoken for reporting the truth about Reform UK, but that’s not going to stop Dan. So today in his Digest he'll reveal the full ecosystem that has seen these bully boy tactics silence broadcasters at Talk TV and GB News – and why that means we’ll never save Britain. Then reaction from a brilliant Superstar Panel: Reform UK supporter Lucy Connolly, Montgomery Toms – host of the Montgomery Toms show on YouTube – and Chris Davies, businessman and the founder of True Conservative Media. PLUS: The Trump administration hit back hard on our tinpot dictator Slippery Starmer over his truly deranged plans to ban X. AND: Tommy Robinson threatens a fight with high profile Islamist lawyer Akhmed Yakoob. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle take their bid to push King Charles and Prince William into a UK return too far, with the Daily Mail being forced to delete a story about the duplicitous duo being offered accommodation at Highgrove. We’ll have all the latest with our Royal Mastermind Angela Levin. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 4003. And breaking today, it's all-out civil war in Reform UK, over the ludicrous decision to parachute Nadim Zahawi, that Muslim jab pushing tax scandal establishment Tory who had previously pushed for an amnesty to allow every single illegal immigrant to stay in the United Kingdom forever into the heart of the party. But now it's got personal. So this is Isabella Oak Shot, the fiancé of Reform UK deputy leader Richard Tice, who is a paid propagandist for the party
Starting point is 00:00:39 on £250,000 a year from Talk TV to broadcast out of an apartment in Dubai. Well, I am really pleased by it, actually. I will declare an interest in that I know Nadim Zahari well. I consider him a friend. And I think that he is a huge, asset to reform. I said he wasn't going to get a peerage and that's why he's done it. Well, they would say that, wouldn't they? Why do I think Nadim Zahawi is a big asset to reform?
Starting point is 00:01:13 Well, he has a huge amount of government experience. He dealt with a number of pretty tricky and awkward questions with really good humour and good grace. And fortunately, he is tremendously well connected on the international stage and particularly in the Middle East. He wants to be a lord because he asked the Tories, didn't he? And they said no. And that seems to be the story that leads to defecting to reform. Apparently he wrote to the Conservatives saying, can I be a lord? And they basically said, no, you're a tax dodger, therefore you can't be a lord.
Starting point is 00:01:51 So now he's switched. He's crossed the house, as it were. Well, that would be speculation. Well, Tice has threatened war on us, on Dan Wooden outspoken, because I've reported the truth about Reform UK. But let me tell you, it's not going to stop me. So today I will reveal the full ecosystem that has seen these bully boy tactics silence broadcasters at Talk TV and GBM News
Starting point is 00:02:23 and why that means we'll never end up saving Britain. When I joined Reform UK, I didn't have to delete any of my tweets because I've been a long-term friend and supporter of Nigel Frudge. I think it's a bit unfortunate. If it had been me, I probably would have gone through and prune them all before I'd made the defection. The Brexit party, the huge success of Brexit party, in my opinion, was it had that allegiance to people from the left, people from the right.
Starting point is 00:02:49 There was a former communist in Claire Fox. I voted for the Labour Party for 20 years. We had a broad church. When can we expect somebody from the Labour Party? parties across the floor. imminently. There are many people coming across at local level, at councillor level,
Starting point is 00:03:04 who are former Labour members and supporters who are already joining this party. But guess what? The people, you are far more sensible. Look at what reformers Jeremy Kyle and David Bull were being hit with on Talk TV
Starting point is 00:03:20 today. Reform was supposed to be a party of British people for the British people. put in our needs first. They've imported every Muslim from the Tory party whose only interest is the Muslim community.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Therefore, reform will be no better than the Tories or Labour, and they won't get my vote. It's about the amazing. I know you're not going to agree with me, but David, you've got to. Ben Habib and Rupert Lowe. They are both incredible brains,
Starting point is 00:03:51 and somehow you've got to hit their heads together and shape them and say, we need you, and they need you, Because you're right. They are not a political party and they won't be able to. No, they won't. Oh, look at their faces. Well done, folks. You are on the right side of history. So I'm going to reveal, by the way, why Rupert Lowe cannot be written off by Reform UK in my digest next. Then reaction from a brilliant superstar panel, Reform UK supporter Lucy Connolly. Montgomery Tom's host of the Montgomery Tom show on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:04:24 and Chris Davies, the businessman and founder of true conservative media. Also coming up on the show today, the Trump administration hit back hard on our tin pot dictator, Slippery Stama, over his truly deranged plans to ban X. Tommy Robinson threatens a fight with a high-profile Islamist lawyer Ahmed Yakub, and Lucy is going to reveal why she remains under attack by the deep state. You'll be very shocked about this. Then we're going to move over to Substack, as we always do, for the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow. This is interesting.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Prince Harry and Megamark will taking their bid to push King Charles and Prince William into a UK return to Far the Daily Mail have just had to delete a story about the duplicitous duo being offered accommodation at Highgrove. We're going to have all the latest behind that with our Royal Mastermind, Angela Levin. We'll also reveal a brand new Greatest Britain and Junie and Jackass at the end of the show. Here are your nominees today. Deborah Miedon, nominated by... The Gryft Report, who says, poor Deborah, losing 30,000 followers on X. Can't imagine why. Well, he doesn't appear often on the Union Jackass nomination list,
Starting point is 00:05:33 but it's Nigel Farage put forward by Chuffsey today, who says, less than zero idea what the British want in their potential cabinet members and leaders. And guys, come on, this is one for me. Chris Bryant cannot stand him, nominated by Sarah Booth, who describes him as Captain Underpants himself for posting any banning of X was a conspiracy theory that then got community noted and he had to quickly delete it. These conspiracy theories, they just keep coming true, folks, don't they?
Starting point is 00:06:10 Do keep your feedback coming in, keep your votes coming in, I will read out the best at the end of today's show. But now, let's go. So I didn't ever particularly want to have to go here. to be honest, but given Isabel Oakshot and Richard Tice have now directly accused me of being motivated by clicks instead of the truth in my independent reporting around Reform UK, Talk TV and GB News, I just have to. Because, as you know, all that matters to me is the truth, the truth and saving this country. Trust me, when Reforms Deputy Leader Tice, on what's at,
Starting point is 00:06:56 by the way, so I have the evidence, threatened to send his party to war with me, to war without spoken, which I think means to war with you, to be completely honest, literally a year after I launched this independent news platform, because I had dared to challenge the disgusting decision by Zia Yusuf to try and get his leadership rival Rupert Lowe locked up, it would have been easier to just relent. Easier to look away in terms of use of being parachuted into the party with a plan to make him the UK's
Starting point is 00:07:33 first Muslim Prime Minister. Easier to look away when Farage refused the concept of mass deportations and insisted he has even worried about demographic change. Easier to look away when the party capitulated to Islamists in London by standing the woman with the Islamic crescent moon hidden tattoo in Leila Cunningham
Starting point is 00:07:54 to stand against Sidney Khan, easier to look away when every goddamn establishment Tory who destroyed this country is parachuted in ahead of the real Brits who actually deserve a chance to save it. But something snapped yesterday with the recruitment of Nidim Zahawi, the Muslim jab-pushing tax scandal establishment Tory who had previously argued for an amnesty to allow every single one. illegal immigrant to stay in the United Kingdom. All of a sudden there has been a wake-up moment for so many of you on the right. And it is important for me to tell you about this Reform UK GB News Talk TV ecosystem that is designed to silence dissent. And to see those who call it out Rupert Lowe, Ben Habib, Tommy Robinson, I guess yours truly as well, cancelled.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Now, I'm one of the only ones who can do this because I was part of that ecosystem. They just couldn't handle it when I refused to follow the party line. So before I get into what Isabel Oakeshot has specifically claimed on X about me today, Let me show you how she is using her 250,000 pound a year tax-free job, as Talk TV's international editor now based in Dubai, to operate specifically as a propagandist for Reform UK because her fiancé is deputy leader. I mean, this is not a woman who likes Nigel Farage. In fact, she can't stand Nigel Farage. Nigel Farage dislikes his Malaksh so much that Richard Tice was invited. to his 60th birthday without the other half. Now, despite the crushing outrage from Reform UK members and supporters yesterday,
Starting point is 00:09:54 you've got to see how Isabel approach this story on Talk TV. Well, first of all, I totally understand why some reform supporters or people that are thinking about backing reform are concerned about this announcement today. The reason they're concerned is because the last thing they want is another party that looks and feels like the failed conservatives. I'm as angry, angrier than most people about the massive betrayals and failures of the conservative government, which we all had to endure for far too long. So what reform supporters don't want, they really, really don't want, is more of the same. So I get that. But in Nadim Zahawi, they're not getting more of the same. First of all, I'd be astonished if he has his sights on going back into their House of Commons.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I don't think he wants to be an MP again. He wants to be a lord because he asked the Tories, didn't he? And they said no. And that seems to be the story that leads to him defecting to reform. Apparently he wrote to the Conservatives saying, can I be a lord? and they basically said, no, you're a tax dodger, therefore you can't be a lord. So now he's switched, he's crossed the house, as it were.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Well, that would be speculation. There was something of the Iraqi comical Ali about her there, wasn't there. She then posted on X, I really don't care what Nadim Zahawi said about Nigel Farage more than a decade ago. Seriously, a year is a long time in politics, 2015,
Starting point is 00:11:44 was another world. That was too much for me. So I responded, Isabel is no longer a journalist, weird and sad to see. Go and join the Reform UKPR department. They need all the help they can get, but don't go and talk, TV,
Starting point is 00:12:00 pretending to be an independent political commentator. It's offensive. And I really do think it is because I believe in reporting the truth. We've been lied to by the MSM for years, it's very important that the so-called alternative media doesn't fall into the same trap. Now, earlier in the day I had also posted after discovering that Richard Tice has now blocked me on X after a lengthy friendship,
Starting point is 00:12:28 which included, by the way, him being the first ever guest. Here on outspoken in July 2024. I wrote Richard Tice viewed me as such a close mate. I was invited to his joint birthday party with a Zabloat, shot at Parliament, But if you question Reform's capitulation to Islam, decision to report Rupert Lowe to the cops, and obsession with recruiting Tory Gwetz, this is what happens. Now Rupert Lowe himself replied to that. Writing, I considered Richard a close friend. I remember laughing and joking with him in my office not long before the reformed leadership tried to put me in prison.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I suspect he knew at that point what they were planning for him. And indeed Richard Tice was part of the campaign to spread the disgusting lie that Rupert was suffering from debilts. dementia, a lie I first exposed. But you saw Richard was part of it for yourself here on Gb News. How has Rupert Lowe got dementia? I've no idea. I mean, why a reform? You'll have to ask him. Well, he says not. Remember, on that same program, he had referred to Tommy Robinson's millions of supporters as that lot. Tommy Robinson, people have been protesting in his name. What do you make of Tommy Robinson? Is he a good guy?
Starting point is 00:13:40 No. No. No, all of that loss. We have nothing to do with them. What, even the protesters who have got banners up saying two tier care, you agree with them on the policing and justice? We agree with ourselves. I'm not aligning ourselves with Tommy Robinson's lot in any shape or four. And today, Isabella Oakshot, rather than battling me on the wisdom of recruiting Zahari, like, let's have that debate, Isabel. Instead, she got personal. Posting, is this the same, Dan?
Starting point is 00:14:11 We supported when others deserted him over vile catfishing allegations and deserted again when he got fired. The same Dan Richard Tyson I found a lawyer for and comforted at our apartment, how cheap friends are when there are cliques to be had. Now I've got a lot to say about this. The first part is actually true, but incomplete. When I was at Isabel and Richard's apartment, they even revealed that they wanted me to come and work for Reform UK. Now, that is something I would never do.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I valued their friendship, absolutely, but I made clear that I am a journalist through and through. I may have been sacked by GB News. At that point, they may have thought I was down and out and that I needed Reform UK. But I had these plans to launch outspoken. I knew it was going to be my driving mission in life to bring the independent media to the UK.
Starting point is 00:15:10 and I was grateful, but just is never going to be my thing. I'm never going to work for a political party ever. That's not what I do. What Isabel then left out is that they used our genuine friendship to try and bully me over Rupert Lowe. And I wasn't the only one. They successfully silenced others, Mike Graham, for one, and every major presenter at G.B. News.
Starting point is 00:15:40 news. But it wasn't going to fly with me because the problem is I was independent. I didn't have a boss. I didn't have someone telling me, Dan, you can't say this. So it was at that point that Richard Tice sent me a WhatsApp message threatening for his entire party, Reform UK, to go to war. War. His words, not mine. His words, with me. Now, I thought that was incredibly unfair. I'd been launched at that point for less than a year. I'd had loads of Reform UK guests on my show. I certainly had not gone to war with the party. Far from it. But of course I was going to report the serious injustice over Rupert Lowe. Nothing was going to stop me on that front.
Starting point is 00:16:33 So today I responded to Isabel. And I wrote, yes, what I thought was a genuine friendship. until I wouldn't follow the Reform UK party line on Rupert Lowe. He's an awful man with Dementia Dan. That's what I was told. Being reported to the police with false allegations for political reasons, just like I was by byline times, and all of a sudden Richard was making threats against me.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Then I realised you both put politics in power before principles or people. That will never be for me. And nothing I do is for clicks. It is about the truth. Trust me, it would have been much easier to follow the Reform Party line, but that would not make me an independent journalist simply a party propagandist like you. And I've got to talk to you about how this works because it matters. It really matters. It's not sour grapes. It's not being bitter and twisted. It really isn't.
Starting point is 00:17:33 But remember, I worked at GB News. I was its launch presenter. I worked at Talk TV. when they were fiercely independent organisations, and that's what I believed was important. That's no longer what they are. They are the media arms of Reform UK. So let's look at both stations and their star presenters. Jeremy Kyle, Nigel Farage. They're on the payroll, both of them. Many other hosts on both stations, including Alex Phillips, Alex Armstrong,
Starting point is 00:18:03 Miriam Kate, Martin Daubney. There's a whole load intend to become Reform. reform UK MPs. But even those who don't want a job with reform have to tow the party line. And the problem is that personal and professional ends up mixing. Because Tice himself and Lee Anderson and Leila Cunningham and Zia, Yusuf Sarah Poach and David Bull, they spend more time in the talking GBI news studios than most of the hosts. So they have all quite literally become colleagues and friends. So last night on Gibi News,
Starting point is 00:18:45 with this backlash around Zahawi, swirling across the right, even the most loyal reform supporters like June Slater saying this is wrong, Patrick Christie realized he had to do a segment on it, one segment, about an hour and a half into the show, but he used the guest, who was literally another failed-up,
Starting point is 00:19:09 washed up no good Tory, Jake Barry, to have the conversation. Watch. When I joined Reform UK, I didn't have to delete any of my tweets because I've been a long-term friend and supporter of Nigel Frudge.
Starting point is 00:19:29 But I do accept in the Dean's case when you are doing jobs like being chairman of the Conservative Party, when you're vaccine, whatever it is, that for politics, the politics of the day, there's an argument between the government and Nigel Farage, you will put out negative tweets. That is the rough and tumble of politics. I personally think it's a bit unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:19:48 If it'd be me, I probably would have gone through and prune them all before I'd made the defection. But when I came over to reform, I didn't have to do that because I've always been quite a big supporter of Nigel Farage and actually lots of what reform stand for. Okay, so you can see what I mean, right? That is not a debate about the issues. That's like Jake Berry saying, I'm the better Tory defector because I never slagged you off Nigel, like, come on. They're not having a real discussion. And what was most astonishing is that
Starting point is 00:20:19 David Bull had gone on his regular slot, ironically on the Farage show, not hosted by Farage, to completely, I would argue, tone deftly, big up the fact that the party is now preparing for a labour defection. A lot of people are saying, when are we going to see another conservative defect, but you recall the Brexit party, the huge success of the Brexit party in my opinion, was it had that allegiance to people from the left, people from the right, there was a former communist in Claire Fox
Starting point is 00:20:52 and I voted for 20 years. We had a broad church. When can we expect somebody from the Labour Party to cross the floor? imminently. I can't certainly more, Martin. The whole point is we're keeping our cards dry, but there are many people coming across
Starting point is 00:21:08 at local level, at councillor level, who are former Labour members, and supporters who are already joining this party. In terms of parliamentarians, we are seeing more people coming towards us, but we are turning people down as well, because actually we're in a really strong position. This is not a retirement home for failed politicians. This is a party on the rise, on the ascendancy. And actually, I kind of, when I was sitting there today, thought, and you know, look, I've been there since the beginning. We were polling at 2, 3%. I was deputy leader at that time. to be polling at 32, 33%.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I actually think we're an unstoppable force. There we go. You heard it here first. Eminently, Dr David Burl, you old tease. I mean, come on. It's propaganda. It's propaganda. Maybe that's okay. Not saying it should be banned.
Starting point is 00:21:57 We've just got to be honest about what it is. Then let's move to Talk TV. Because this morning we had the ludicrous spectacle of the apparently impartial breakfast presenter, Jeremy Kyle interviewing the same David Bull, but admitting at the start of the interview that they had actually spent all weekend together media training reform UK candidates. Watch. I think you gave me a sore throat. I knew you were going to say this and you're the doctor. So we worked all weekend. It was an interesting weekend. It was a great weekend. In my guys,
Starting point is 00:22:32 as you know, independent, media advisor. Media advisor. Can I just say thank you so much for doing that, actually. And so just to explain to people, as chairman, I'm very keen that we have great candidates, that they're prepared as we go into the general election, which, my goodness, doesn't need to come sooner and later. But you and I train 200 candidates over the weekend, and there were some really good people. Well, I was, one of the things that's sitting here, and I was just there as an independent, you know, broadcaster doing, being asked to use my television skills to scare the bits off these poor people. What skills? Yeah, thank you, very great start. Great start. Well done, David. But it's quite interesting because all the rhetoric, a lot of the rhetoric is are these people, you know, reform rag-tag bail. I saw a cross-section of young people, women, men, older men, I thought I would have passed 80% plus of the people I saw, which is extraordinary.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And one of the criticisms, and we'll come on to Nadine Zahawi in a sec, is that, you know, reform, it's in a slight difficult position in your party, because on the one hand, people will say, don't just become a breeding ground for disillusioned crap tourists. And on the other they say, you've got no experience. You can't go into government because all your MPs are going to be. So I was motivated by the weekend. We saw some good people, but let's bring it to Zaharwe. Please do. For you personally, before I throw questions.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Yeah, let's do a really tough interview now that I've just admitted that I've media trained all of your candidates. I mean, you can't be independent if your media training candidates for a political party to avoid. questions being asked by broadcasters on TV shows. Come on. How can anyone see that this is not a problem, a big problem, and why we need the independent media? What's fascinating to me is how the talk TV audience, who I love, by the way, and I want to come on over here to outspoken, were an open revolt. First on the Muslim issue.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Michael on the... You hate my shirts. No I don't. Michael on the Dean, good morning. Morning, Jez. Great show. It's Michael from Corby here. Just dropping a note in on the point of Tories defecting to reform. Reform was supposed to be a party of British people for the British people put in our needs first. They've imported every Muslim from the Tory party whose only interest is the Muslim community. Therefore, reform will be no better than the Tories or Labour, and they won't get my vote. We need a party that's going to put British people first for once.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Have a great one, mate, thank you. Can I just make the point? They are British. So Zia is British. Leila is British. Nadim is British. So I don't buy that in any sense. Did you see their facial expressions change?
Starting point is 00:25:30 when the caller started to drop some truth bombs. Same thing on the matter of Rupert Lowe and Ben Habib, watch. Conservatives coming over to you and go into discussions. What about the amazing? I know you're not going to agree with me, but David, you've got to. Ben Habib and Rupert Lowe. They are both incredible brains,
Starting point is 00:25:54 and somehow you've got to hit their heads together and shape them and say, we need you, and they need you. and they need you because you're right. They are not a political party and they won't be able to. No, they won't. But congratulations. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Kyle also interviewed Tice in what can only be described as gerbils-like propaganda given the total outrage about the Zahawi defection. Nadine Zahawi, ex-Chancellor of the exchequer, the vaccine role out minister
Starting point is 00:26:26 defecting to reform. Personally, to you as a mate, right, high profile. I understand the people that are saying, is it going to become reformer a home for disillusioned, you know, people who want to jump on the bandwagon? I think Nadine Zahaw is a game changer.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I think he has the experience to not only building a business, but also actually of working in the highest levels of government and creates, I think, the right story. But, you know, are people split? What's the reaction been like, pal? Well, I mean, I've had
Starting point is 00:26:57 a fantastic reaction and it's shown, I've had messages, from other people who say that is a game changer that has made me think, made them think. And Nadim is incredibly experienced, both as a businessman, but also in government. And he knows how to get things done. He's a doer. And that's really important. And he described Britain as being sick. And that Nigel Farage and reform is the only solution to saving the country.
Starting point is 00:27:30 and that's why he wants to join the team. And the thing is, this is an operation which is now slick and sophisticated, and it is constant. And it's designed to shut down voices like mine, like Rupert Lowe's, like Ben Habibs. I mean, in fact, on Jubes & Co, now the number one rated show on GB News,
Starting point is 00:27:53 Rupert Lowe was actually booted off, even though he was the most popular guest. He's banned from the channel, replaced by Zee Uciss, who is able to then continue the PR campaign. Watch. Well, look, I understand why people have concerns, people who support reform, because if you look at things he has said in the past, I actually agree with Barry on this.
Starting point is 00:28:17 We need to be careful because he said things about BLM, he said things about vaccines, he said things about, you know, amnesties for illegal migrants, etc. But I will say this too. I will say this too. He has changed his views on. those things. And, you know, one thing I will say, you know, I was chairman of Reform UK for a decent amount of time as we built this party, I'm ahead of policy now.
Starting point is 00:28:41 I don't know if everyone really understands the extent to which every non-democratic element of the state will throw everything they can at Nigel Farage's Prime Minister and reform in government to try to stop us. And having somebody like Nadim who can help us see around some corners with the experience that he has, to be fair in getting some things done, that I think will be invaluable. So what I would ask is that people ask themselves, do they trust Nigel? Do they trust me?
Starting point is 00:29:07 Do they trust Richard and Lee and Sarah and everyone at the top of a form to deliver on the things that we are promising people? We're saying that forget about amnesties for illegal migrants. We're going to deport every single illegal migrant in this country. We're going to stop the boats. We're going to make sure that net migration collapses so much and it's probably going to have to be negative
Starting point is 00:29:28 for a sustained period of time, given that we're going to deport hundreds of thousands, probably millions of people. Those are the questions people need to ask themselves. Well, no, Mr. Yusuf, I don't trust you as far as I can throw you, matey boy. Who are you? Where did you come from? How did you buy your way into this party? Are you an Islamist?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Are you practicing to Kia? But he won't come on any platform that will ask him those questions. So the propaganda train continues. And it's in the left-wing MSM. we're starting to learn the truth about Reform UK's real plan. You're not going to like this, but there are more Tories coming to take over Reform UK. Nadine Dory's literally confirmed it on Sly News this morning. I think he's going to be, you know, one of even more.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah, I would imagine so. It's, you know, everyone has their own reasons why they do this. You know, I know, I know why I know why I. I did it, and I'm sure Nadim has a completely different set of reasons, but I think there is one common thread that runs through most of these kind of things, and that is that the writing is on the wall for the Conservative Party. We know where reform are going. We know how well they're going to do in the local elections, and we know having experienced both the Conservative and Labour Government in recent years, we know exactly who needs to be in power.
Starting point is 00:30:58 in order to do what's right for Britain. And despite all of that tough talk from Farage and Yusuf, guess what? A formal deal with the Tories is coming too. And the Conservative vote and the reform vote combined is a powerful bloc. And I've said all along, I'm not sure that when it comes to a general election in a few years' time, that there won't be some form of accommodation. and I think that will have to happen, unless, of course, reform continue
Starting point is 00:31:33 to move from strength to strength, which is what I personally feel they will do. And wait for it, wait for it. Even Boris Johnson isn't off the table, good Lord. Would Nigel Farage welcome Boris Johnson and could he be tempted? I've literally no idea. Well, I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:57 When they tell you who they are, make sure you listen. And what probably has been the most interesting thing to me over the past 24, 48 hours, is not that Reform UK don't believe that Rupert Lowe is an incredible performer, that he could lead a party. They don't think he has the money to do it. They don't think he can build, restore Britain, into a proper operation for financial reasons. David Bull has admitted it in public.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Watch. Oh, I'm still in talking terms with Rupert and with others. But at the same... Tapil on it. But the same time... At the same time, I've got 400 branches to sort out and run and do action days and get the membership up and do all of that stuff and the media and all the rest of it.
Starting point is 00:32:50 So fine. All that can happen in the periphery. But I think, you know, Rupert talked about starting his own party. it's not going to happen. It's just not going to happen. And I know that because, not because I don't believe he's capable, but also it's just too expensive. It's just, you know, it eats money to do that. I mean, look at the, we were a tiny operation. And look now we're on in this rather splendid, shiny building. And we are taking on more staff all the time. So we're growing all the time. And you mentioned donations at the beginning without donations. And actually, the most important donations are the £10 and £20 that come from members. I think that arrogance might backfire because let's see. Elon Musk likes Rupert Lowe a lot. Don't underestimate the desire for real change. Don't underestimate how fast the Overton window is shifting.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I do not rule out, and I'll be able to tell you more as the weeks and months progress, but I do not rule out a serious challenge from reform, from reform, uh, put Lowe to Reform UK. I mean, God, we need some of his pluck, don't we? Did you see this hilarious banter with him? And Isabel Oakshot, as he hilariously suggested that Femi Olawli might be the next defection to reform UK. And Reform's poll lead is soft, too. UGov has them at just 24% today.
Starting point is 00:34:15 That is its lowest polling since April. Indeed, Lowe pledged yesterday as membership for Restore Britain surged, I am very strongly of the view that at the next general election, we need hundreds of candidates put forward to the British people that have largely had zero involvement in politics up to that point. I will work tirelessly to make sure that is provided in some form. After the shameful news from Reform Today, I'm more convinced than ever of its necessity. I am absolutely certain that we do not need a host of failed Conservative MPs manipulating the rightful anger of the British people to slink back into Parliament. Baraj has got it wronging. And sadly, it has revealed what really drives him. I do not believe that is the best entrance of the country. I'm sorry, I just don't. I understand people are frustrated that I remain an independent without a political party, but we are going to have one shot at getting this right, and we need to get it right.
Starting point is 00:35:09 There is no choice. Alongside that, if we wait until 2029 to deliver the change to the country so desperately needs, there won't be a Britain left to restore. This is the immediate priority. That is why decent-minded MPs must come together now. to fight for a different Britain today. That's what I'm trying to do through Restore and in Parliament, some wins, some failures, but with progress regardless. If we do a good job now, as is so often in life, a path will present itself. If it does not, one will be forged in the coming months.
Starting point is 00:35:38 There will be a viable alternative at the next election. I promise you that. Tommy Robinson, meanwhile believes the right move is backing Ben Habib and his Advance UK party. Writing with recent news of Nadim Zahawi's appointment at Reform, it's clear that this party is needed now more than ever. A pro-lockdown, pro-force vaccine mandate Muslim politician born in Iraq should not be part of any party that wants to put British people first. The only party which truly cares about the country is Advance UK. It is holding its first member's conference on the 7th of February in London. I will be there and hope to see you there. What's clear is that uniting the right is no longer just about trusting Nigel Farage and Zia Yusuf at any cost.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Ex-clothes show host, Jeff Banks. Bit of a legend, right? Has gone viral for making an alternative argument. There are four men in this country that could irrevocably change the course of history for us that's going to benefit everybody. Nigel Farage, a bit bunchless of time, full of himself, but undoubtedly the qualities that you need in a great leader. Rupert Lowe, successful businessman, successful farmer, very direct dinner's approach, great orator, speaks his mind. A little bit of my way or no way. Ben Habib, fantastic intellectual, well-educated at rugby, Robinson College, Cambridge.
Starting point is 00:37:17 A great speaker formed his own party last year. and he's now got 30 to 40,000 members already, so undoubtedly somebody that knows what he's doing. And then finally, Tommy Robinson. Tommy, a bit like Marmite, you either love him or hate him. Self-educated, extremely well-read, a dynamic journalist that actually brought grooming gangs to the forefront 10 years ago,
Starting point is 00:37:41 an amazing character, and very often grossly underrated. And then with my appeal to these four men, is really to stop messing around. Burry the hatchet, smoke the pipe of peace or maybe a cigar, stop throwing bricks and lawsuits at one another, come together for the greater good, put the egos back in the toy box, and join up together to make Britain great again.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Diff Banks, I think you're great, but I think it's far too late for that. The egos are well and truly out of the box. Now, the Superstyle Panel. So brilliant to have Lucy Connolly, Montgomery, Tom and Chris alongside me today. Chris, your reaction. Well, Dan, there's an awful lot of back slapping going on, isn't there?
Starting point is 00:38:41 We're very pleased with ourselves when we're interviewing each other, and isn't it a wonderful thing? Look, I think the debunking of reform as a radical party is almost clear. complete. It is now clear that what Reform UK has become, not what it was, but what it has become, is an establishment party cosplaying as a radical future for the United Kingdom, which it absolutely is not. Their attacks on you have been visceral and unnecessary and have brought into question your journalistic integrity. Aside from everything else, you're a friend of mine, Dan, and I'm would always be happy to go into back for your integrity over that of any politician.
Starting point is 00:39:30 But I think the reform Kool-Aid is perhaps wearing a little bit thin. And what do I mean by that? We did a very short poll last night, three-hour poll, 1,800 people involved. Who's the next government in waiting at 73% voted for advance? Because they believe advance will commit to mass deportations, will commit to remigration, will commit to a moratorium on immigration. And reform were there, but they were a distant second, clearly, when somebody's at 73%.
Starting point is 00:40:02 So the point is this. I think people had gone to sleep that it was a given that Reform UK are going to win the next election. They're going to be unchallenged. The notion of 20 Tory MPs having already joined and more to follow, perhaps someone like Kate Hoey is a token formulation, Labour MP joining from the left. I think people had just assumed that they were sleepwalking into 2029, get through the socialist hellscape of the next three years and come out the other side. This notion, as you and I have discussed before, of uniting the right, it's for the birds, Dan.
Starting point is 00:40:38 You know, there's so many small parties on the right, there's so many egos on the right as well. The notion that unfortunately Jeff has come up with of putting those four people in a room, I think they kill each other rather than negotiate, thank you. It's very sure. I think they would at this point. Montgomery, Thoms, you have been publicly furious about Nadim Zahawi, specifically. Have this changed how you view the Reform UK project overall? Yeah, undoubtedly. I mean, I've been cautious and I've held my breath and I've been patient when it comes to observing how Farage is going to operate, especially as I'm passionately against things like digital IDs. And I know that Farage has been pretty spot on
Starting point is 00:41:20 when it comes to things like this. But, you know, I was very young. when lockdown hit Dan and I remember the jab mandates. I remember what this man who was head of the COVID-19, you know, he was a COVID-19 vaccine minister. I remember what he did. I remember what he said. He is the man who reinvented a paper's police culture with vaccine mandates. He is the man that basically sold our country out, betrayed us.
Starting point is 00:41:45 And as a result of his actions, has with the COVID jabs, not vaccines, MRNA gene therapy jabs, has essentially killed children, caused women to go infertile, men, sperm counts to reduce an untold amount of harm and damage. And what's incredible is Tyse and Farage, etc., talking about how they'll have a legitimate COVID inquiry and excess deaths inquiry. Well, that means you're going to have to inquire your own party, isn't it? Because you're now hosting a man and giving a platform to a man who, in my opinion, has committed some of the most heinous offences against this country.
Starting point is 00:42:20 and betrayed us and sold us out. You think he should be on criminal trial, right? 100%. Lucy Connolly, this is super unfair in a way because actually, I know you're a Reform UK supporter in the sense that you spoke at a big conference and they hosted you. And in fairness to Tice,
Starting point is 00:42:40 and by the way, I hope people realize this is why I'm an independent thinker, even after he had threatened me, when he backed you in prison and he went to visit you in prison after your assault, I championed him. I bigged him up because I will always call out someone who does something right, no matter what party they are in, even if they've threatened me.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And so I just think that's really important to say, this is difficult for you, though, because obviously you agree with us on a lot of stuff, but fundamentally you do believe that Reform UK remain the best option. Yeah, I do. I mean, I am, let's not sugarcoat this. This was, I don't think this was a positive move for reform. On a personal level, I don't back, Nadine.
Starting point is 00:43:28 I'm with, I'm with the other guys, you know, I will never forgive them for pushing the jab for lockdowns. And, you know, and people are more than entitled to be angry over the way COVID was handled and unforgiving. And we don't want more of the same, you know, that can't be re-eurore. reiterated enough. I will stand by with reform because I still think that they are the best chance we have of getting out of this mess. I just, we're in such a mess down in this country. I wouldn't even know where to begin to start. And I still believe that, you know, reform are our best chance of making any headway in that. Do I, do I like Nadine on a personal
Starting point is 00:44:13 note? No, you know, I won't forgive him. He's not somebody I support. But, you know, reformer growing by the day. They're a big political party. We're not going to agree with every single person they're being on board and agree with every decision they make. That's just life and, you know, we're adults and we should be able to discuss it. I don't like to see all this backstabbing and tweeting and carrying on. I think it's really childish from any level. I think politicians need to stop. You know, you wouldn't get away with that. If you worked for a blue chip company, you wouldn't get away with, you know, attacking each other on Twitter and bad-mouthing people on social media and stuff,
Starting point is 00:44:52 if you worked within the same company, for example. So I think that we need to stop all this when it comes to MPs and this, because it's just terrible. It's not playground. It's not gutter politics. This is people's lives. This is my children's future that you're messing with. It's not a game.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah, I mean, Montgomery, how do you respond to that? Quite transparently. I mean, I totally appreciate your saying and it's sort of very hard to go back on something when it seemed like we had hope considering the past five years has been so miserable. But to bring a man like this in it's a line I just will refuse to cross.
Starting point is 00:45:33 This is an absolute red line. The vaccine mandates and the vaccine itself, in my opinion, you know, you could classify it as a crime against humanity. You know, you can take that through a court of law and decide it, but that's what I would call it. And for me, it's not a case of, you know, we can agree on some things,
Starting point is 00:45:47 disagree with something. That's fine. I'm all up for open debate, but there are some lines that cannot be crossed. And let me tell you something. My follower base and the people that put a lot of backing support behind me, you know, I've been also cautious about reform, but have seen, you know, some hope there. I have been inundated, absolutely inundated with, I would say hundreds of messages by this point, private messages saying, I'm done, I just can't throw any support behind reform because what they have done by endorsing this man, the man who stripped away our fundamental rights and freedoms and brought forward an experimental jab. He had one job producing that's safe and effective, and he failed at that.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And moreover, it's been re-endorsed by him also saying that Farage agrees and endorses it too. No, enough is enough. I can't do it. I just cannot possibly justify re-endorsing something that has been so catastrophic towards the British people and, in fact, the world. And I think where I disagree with Lucy, Chris, is that actually sometimes it's good for these discussions and debates to play out in public because a lot of this has been going on behind the scenes, the bully boy tactics. So right now, I can reveal to you one of the
Starting point is 00:46:58 very similar text messages over Tommy Robinson that Richard Tice as deputy leader of Reform UK sent to Howard Cox. Very good man. Remember, he was the London Merrill candidate for Reform UK. He was. and he had been completely loyal when Tice was the leader of that party, but he backed Tommy Robinson. That was it. He didn't do anything wrong. He just supported Tommy Robinson.
Starting point is 00:47:26 That was all. And this is the text message that Richard Tice sent to Howard Cox, exclusive for outspoken. We cannot work together when you publicly criticize us and you look like a Tommy Robinson supporter. It is extraordinary that you cannot see that. I have emails from people asking that you be expelled. So angry are they?
Starting point is 00:47:50 You have made your choice and the wrong one. He replied, Howard Cox, replied, very sad. You know me. But that was it. He was gone, Chris. One text message. And I think the key line in that text, Chris, is, you have made your choice and the wrong one.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Yeah, I mean, look, I'm with Montgomery. on this and I feel for Lucy for having to sort of sit and defend reform in this situation because it's a horrible position to be in and I think she made a good fist of it actually. Look Dan, the reform mind virus is strong, okay? And those who do not subscribe to it are not welcoming the party. You drink the collade, you wear the T-shirt, you have number 10 Farage on your back, and you tow the party line. And if you do not,
Starting point is 00:48:51 and if you're an independent free thinker like Howard Cox, you don't stand for them. I mean, Howard's, I think he's 70, 71, very experienced guy, been around a long time. He's not going to put up with that kind of nonsense and bullshit. He voted with his feet. I think personally he maybe jumped a little bit too quickly to advance, but hey, that's up to him.
Starting point is 00:49:11 It's a free country. But people, you know, forget that Howard's campaign was chronically under-supported by reform. They had a real chance, actually, in London, of making a good fist of it. And on the day that Howard went to post his ballot, I think the only person that showed up for him was Rupert Lowe. None of the reform High Command bothered.
Starting point is 00:49:38 And Howard is too good a resource for reform to lose. Would I trade Howard Cox for Nadine Zaharwe, the COVID-pushing, propagandising scumbag that he is all day long, all day long. And I think many other people would take the same view. Yeah, indeed. I mean, Lucy Connolly, would it not be irresistible to you if Rupert Lowe did say? I mean, he's got this great Yarmouth first party running in the local elections. If he had success there and he said, we're going to turn, restore Britain into a truly patriotic, sound,
Starting point is 00:50:15 based party. That's tempting, isn't it? Rupert Lowe has huge aura. He's in Parliament. He was a big supporter of you. He of course hosted you for that free speech debate, where I remind you, not that you need to be reminded, but no Reform UK MPs bothered to show up. Listen, let's not, I don't think that anybody should get complacent and cocky here. And let's not think for one minute that somebody couldn't come along tomorrow and fund Rupert Lowe if he wanted to make restore into a political party. Elon Musk is funny when he said it because Elon Musk was the very first person that came to mind when there was this talk and he would love nothing more than you know for them to have
Starting point is 00:51:01 egg on their faces and come along and fund them. And there were many more like Elon that have the funds that would back Rupert Lowe. Let's not forget Rupert Lowe's gentry. He's from money. I'm sure he knows plenty of people with money. I don't. don't think money is an issue for for rupert i think he's always maintained as rupert maintains country first country first and i think especially at his time you know with respect he's getting getting a little bit older now he's having grandchildren and all these kind of things i think he's thinking as much as he wants to save the country i think he's thinking do i really want to go this deep and you know start my own political party and be an ahead of my own political party i think
Starting point is 00:51:44 that he feels he's doing oh he does he's doing it he's a Trump. Come on. He's our Trump. He's like, ages no barrier. I've never been more enthusiastic. But look, you know, I am actually agnostic to the parties, genuinely. Chris, want to point out, you're a big supporter of you, Kip. I'm one of the only
Starting point is 00:52:01 people that gives a platform to the leader of your party. Nick Marcell, Tenconi. He will be here on Friday. This Thursday, I'm recording Ben Habib's Advanced UK podcast. My thing is I want to give a platform to all of them. And I would have Farage here, too. I really would. I really would. I wanted Layla Cunningham here. She instead decided to go on a podcast watched by no one because she would be given safe choices. You know, the point is, we need to have a discussion. That's the whole point about the independent media. Reform UK think that they can win this entirely by using the mainstream media. They're going to get a big wake-up call. I really think they are because outside of GB News and Talk TV, these people want you dead. They want to finish you off. So Richard Tice, Isabel Oakeshot, you're going to
Starting point is 00:52:47 war with the wrong man. Seriously. I'm not the one. You should be going to war with outspoken. It's not the channel you should be going to war with. Seriously, think about that. Absolutely shocking to see the government's plan to censor free speech and ban X outlined in the most chilling of details. As Charlotte Gill, the brilliant Charlotte Gill pointed out, if you are found to have broken the law, Ofcom can potentially issue X with a fine of up to 10% of its worldwide revenue, or 18 million pounds, whichever is greater. And if X does not comply,
Starting point is 00:53:25 offcom can seat a court order to force internet service providers to block access to the site in the UK all together. This is nuts, of course, complete insanity. And the fact that there is not outrage in the mainstream media about it shows that deep down, they just want to control the narrative. Remember two, I'm not going to jump on the total hysteria and histrionic about Grok, like these are fake images. And Liz Kendall and Kirstama make me sick.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Because they didn't give a shit when we were talking about the mass rape of white girls. They honestly didn't. There was no passion. they didn't even want to speak about it. But when it comes to Elon Musk, they're literally claiming that this GROC AI app, and let's be honest, lots of these apps exist, is abuse, is abuse.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Watch. And it is monetising abuse. So let me be crystal clear. Under the Online Safety Act, sharing intimate images without someone's consent or threatening to share them, including images of people in their underage. is a criminal offence for individuals and for platforms.
Starting point is 00:54:50 My predecessor, the right honourable member for Hove and Portslaid, rightly made this a priority offence so services have to take proactive action to stop this content from appearing in the first place. The Data Act, passed last year, made it a criminal offence to create or request the creation of non-consensual intimate images. And today I can announce to the House that this offence will be brought into force this week. And that I will make it a priority offence in the online safety act too. This means individuals are committing a criminal offence if they create or seek to create such content, including on X.
Starting point is 00:55:38 And anyone who does this should expect to face the full extent of the law. Now, of course this is psychopathic. It's psychopathic because as I say, this is the Labor government, the same Labor government that literally didn't want to speak about the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs full stop. And actually, even though I'm often critical of him, I do think Jake Berry on GB News was the only mainstream politician to actually sum up the true extent of what we're dealing with here. This is a dictatorship. Stama, slippery Stama is now a tin pot dictator. Watch. This government is the closest thing to a dictatorship that we have ever known in Britain. They are banning platforms like Twitter. Potentially they're talking about it. Appreciate it. They're not done it yet. That is a huge outlet for freedom of speech. Let's not forget those pictures of people in Iran, you wouldn't have most of those pictures.
Starting point is 00:56:35 You wouldn't know what was going on in Iran unless we had free, you know. Trust the BBC to them. You couldn't trust the BBC to, but unless you had citizen journalism, journalism, Twitter. They're banning elections, they're going to ban up to 28 elections this year. That will mean, in some areas, like Blackburn with Darwin, for example, or I used to represent, there will be councillors elected for seven years on a four-year term. They're persecuting Freemasons, trying to stop them, making them declare membership of Freemasons if they want to go into public office.
Starting point is 00:57:09 This is a government that is actually doing the classic thing that dictatorships have done around the world and claiming it is in the name of democracy. This is completely wrong and the British people need to wake up, recognise this for what it is. It is brutal censorship of the British public. Totally, he's got it right. He's got it right.
Starting point is 00:57:25 And the fact that Kemi Badernock, the Conservative Party leader, decided to make this issue about censoring social media for those under 16 shows that she has a complete misunderstanding of this issue. Let me tell you who doesn't.
Starting point is 00:57:38 And this matters. Donald Trump, specifically, under-sectory of state, Sarah Rogers, who on his behalf is calling out the British government, posting, since we know the British government wants to make sure women are safe, both online and offline, thus contemplating a Russia-style ex-band to protect them from bikini images. Here's more from Wikipedia on cousin marriage and its connection to honour killing. Remember, this is a woman from the Trump administration flagging specifically this video where Kair Stama said he had no plans to make
Starting point is 00:58:09 cousin marriage legal. A marriage between first cousin. carry significant health issues, many of which aren't even knowable until post-birth. When practice generation after generation, there is a significant multiplier effect. In addition, the real impacts for the openness of our society and women's rights in our country are also significant. After all, there are significant dynamics in sharing the same set of grandparents. On Friday, this government has a choice to let my bill go through to ban first cousin marriage to committee stage. Will the Prime Minister think again before instructing his whips to block this legislation? Prime Minister.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Mr. Speaker, we've taken our position on that bill. Thank you. That completes Prime Minister's questions. Sarah Rogers was completely on fire on these issues on GB News last night. What? If the British government cared about women's safety, it would have acted differently on grooming gangs. What the British government wants is the ability to curate a public square,
Starting point is 00:59:09 to suppress political viewpoints it dislikes. And that is why it is targeted X for a potential ban. Even though other AI widgets afford similar capabilities, X has a political valence that the British government is antagonistic to, doesn't like. And that's what's really going on here. This president has been a huge champion of free speech. No surprise to see the vice president share that value. And, you know, our leadership understands this because President Trump was himself a target of censorship. President Trump was banned by Twitter, the old regime before Elon bought it.
Starting point is 00:59:43 He then, there was another platform called Parlor that hosted him. and that app was removed from the app store for allowing a sitting president to speak. Alexei Navalny, a famous Russian dissident who was censored and allegedly assassinated by Putin, compared President Trump's ban from Twitter and from parlor to something the Russian government would do. And I think you have to take that comparison seriously. So that's why our president cares about this issue, because people couldn't deal with his popularity, they couldn't deal with his success, and they tried to just shut him up so no one could hear him. How will they feel?
Starting point is 01:00:19 I think all Americans will feel disappointed, but frankly, Bev, given the pro-censorship inclinations of the British state in recent memory, I can't say that we'll be shocked. And we should be embarrassed. We should be absolutely embarrassed that this is how the Trump administration feels about what's going on here. Guess what happens if the elf communists do get the ban that they want. We are going to be treated like Iranians in order to get around such blatant. censorship watch.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Ofcom do decide that X should be banned in the UK. What will President Trump say or do about that? America above has a full range of tools that we can use to facilitate unscensored internet access in authoritarian closed societies where the government bansett. We are facilitating uncensored internet in Iran right now. We've done that in the past elsewhere. And with respect to a potential ban of acts, Kirstarmer has said that nothing is off the table.
Starting point is 01:01:25 And I would say from America's perspective, that likewise, nothing is off the table when it comes to free speech. So let's wait and see what Offcom does, and we'll see what America does in response. But I had an apparatus at the State Department called the Office of Digital Freedom, and this is an issue dear to us
Starting point is 01:01:44 and I think we would certainly want to respond. To my superstar panel, Chris Davies of True Conservative Media, Montgomery Tom's, host of the Montgomery Tom's show on YouTube, and our free speech activist, political prisoner-in-chief Lucy Conley. And actually, Lucy, it was Sarah Rogers, wasn't it? The woman who we just saw there, who took a deep personal interest in your case. Yeah, I've, I mean, I've spoken. to Sarah Rogers directly. I think she's fab. I think she hits the nail on the head every time.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I think she's really, really passionate about free speech and all the issues that she just raised there. I think she's really genuine about it. She obviously advocates for the Trump administration. And, you know, I've got a lot of respect for Sarah and her thoughts. And she's an intelligent lady. Montgomery, Tom, so the idea that we might have to have Starlink, you know, little mini Starlink, shipped in, helicoptered in to make a point. I mean, when is Starmer going to wake up and realize we're the laughing stock of the free world now? Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, Britain once pioneered the essence of freedom with common law and now we're obsessed about
Starting point is 01:03:03 destroying it. I mean, obviously, Labour are panicking, but we must remember it's not just Labor. I mean, just linking to obviously all the nonsense with Tories defecting to reform. just to flag that again, you know, it's also the Tories that did were complicit in huge amounts of censorship back in, I say, pandemic. And, and they're just obsessed with cracking down on free speech and X is pretty much the only platform out there that we can almost 100% rely on to get to, to voice our opinions against the government. They just can't stand it. So they're going to do anything they can possibly do to crack down on our fundamental rights and freedoms. They are
Starting point is 01:03:36 authoritarian, Orwellian scumbags as far as I'm concerned. And it's, you know, individuals like yourself, Dan, and everyone else on this panel actually that needs to continue all of the hard work in fighting for the fundamental right of free speech. Yeah, and I mean, the point is Lucy, I guess your case proves, right, that actually there are consequences still that exist. I mean, if you do use X and you are found to break the law, even if that law is an ass, you can go to prison. So you don't need to ban the platform. No. And also, from recent things that have happened, let's not pretend it's just because you may have said something illegal or may have said something they deem to incite. It's if you say anything that they don't want to be said or anything
Starting point is 01:04:28 that goes against their politics. But free speech doesn't work like that, does it? You know, you can't just pick and choose when something's free speech just because you don't. You don't agree with it. And that's exactly how this country is going right now and by the looks of it, Australia too. Yeah, well, I think Australia, Chris Davies, actually provides a terrifying template because this is why I'm so angry with Kemi Badernock, right? She put on the issue, this idea that there should be a cross-party ban of social media for under 16s, labor, and our preparing to do just that. And it's like, Kemi, do you not realize the ban on under 16s? is actually to introduce censorship for all of us.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Dan, you and I are both acquainted with Alexandra Marshall, who's spoken extensively about the band for under 16s. Spectator Australia, great women, sometimes here. Yeah, yeah, in Australia. And Albanese and Stama both abide by the same playbook. I think it's very telling Dan that on the one hand, Chris Bryant can put himself on X in his underpass, which is a site I never want to think about ever again.
Starting point is 01:05:44 But Samantha Smith, who is one of the rape gang survivors from Telford, she said that on X this week, there have been hundreds of images of her wearing next to no clothes generated by Grok or could have been open source, could have been Gemini, because they're all capable of doing this. And Samantha still maintains that X should, not be banned. It's a bit like the problem with guns down. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
Starting point is 01:06:17 People distribute paedophilic images. What I really struggle with is that Snapchat down, according to the NSPC stats, you are 20 to 25 times more likely to encounter a paedophilic image on Snapchat than you are on X. And that debunks the theory that this is anything to do with anything other than a desire to censor the one free speech platform in this country that holds this government to account. Community note number 22 incoming Kirstama. Absolutely it is. And he deserves it.
Starting point is 01:06:53 He absolutely deserves it. He hasn't been posting on X, right, apparently, since this has gone on. And I thought, that's sensible if you're his PA guys, because you know, every single post that he made was ratioed to the extreme. The Deep State continues its attack on Lucy Connolly, on a daily basis. It's sick stuff. You'll remember her story, of course. We have championed it here on Outspoken since day one. An ordinary, patriotic mother grieving, the loss of her son, posting in horror like so many of us did on the day of the Southport massacre only to end up imprisoned. But this backfired on the government because Lucy Connolly is now one of our biggest pinups for free speech. One of our biggest pinups against the authoritarianism of Slippery Stama's government. And so guess what?
Starting point is 01:07:54 The deep state continues its attack on Lucy Connolly, continues its bid to shut down Lucy Connolly, continues its bid to silence Lucy Connolly on a daily basis. Why do you think they want to expand? because Lucy Connolly is raising this issue to the world. Now, we'll get insight from Lucy about exactly what's going on in just one moment, but first let me share you these posts on X, which we can do for the moment. Soon it will probably be illegal.
Starting point is 01:08:21 She posted, second bollicking of the week from probation. The Lucy Connolly hotline seems to have been very busy this week, and my new probation worker hates me. Free speech is absolutely dead. Banta is definitely not allowed, and the powers that be are clearly furious that I have made a return to Twitter. I'm going back to posting feet and wine photos, although me breathing. Offends a lot of people on here.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Be me up, Scotty. And after that, lots of people were concerned about Lucy and whether these attacks were really upsetting her. And so she responded saying lots of people have messaged or commented today asking me if I'm okay and telling me to keep my head held high. They see the trolls coming at me. on here, but remember, Twitter is not real life. In real life, since I've been released from prison, I have not had any hate other than on Twitter. In fact, quite the opposite. When I'm out and about, be it walking the dog in the gym, at work, doing my shopping or having a drink in a pub,
Starting point is 01:09:20 I regularly get people, strangers, come up to me and wish me well, be it in Northampton or London. They tell me how sorry they are for what happened to me and tell me how ashamed they are of our government and the judiciary. They wish me and my family well. E, Lucy's daughter, and her friends think it's funny. They watch me when I do podcasts or appear on TV. Her friends WhatsApp me to tell me they have seen me on YouTube or whatever. Edie isn't ashamed of her mummy. Ray isn't ashamed of his wife.
Starting point is 01:09:46 And all this aside, our little family is very happy. They know me, you see, the mummy that invites them all in her house, feeds them, treats them like her own, fairies them to the cinemas, bowling, bankrolls them, sorry to disappoint the trolls. They call probation or the police or message me to tell me I'm a race, and my child must be so embarrassed to have a mother like me. You couldn't be further from the truth. I'm sorry that you must have such dull bitter lives that you are obsessed with mine.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I hope you find peace and friends and family as good as mine. But Lucy, this is still very disturbing to me, and I think people will be shocked that your probation officer is literally patrolling what you say post-border. post and trying to decipher if a joke or if something which could be humorous in some way means that you should be sent back to prison? Do they really have a right to do this? What's going on? Fill me in. I don't know. I don't, I need to, I, as you know, I've got the lawyers onto it. But I am at the stage now. My original tweet aside, we're not talking about that. We're not
Starting point is 01:11:04 talking about those words. I generally don't know what is okay by their standards to say and what is not. I've been pulled up for several things last week with a warning letter which is like telling me that it's not of good behaviour and none of which I'm in agreeance with, you know. So what is it that you've posted that they consider wrong? I re-shared a tweet of someone else's where they jokingly, you know, tongue in cheek said, could you come and get, if Trump could come and take Stama, like they did, you know, in Iran, sorry, in Venezuela. And apparently that, somebody called probation
Starting point is 01:11:49 and said they were very offended by this post and it's inciting violence. What? Yeah, so apparently that post. Sorry, just to clarify, this is really important, Lucy, because it shows you the madness of the system. So sorry, this is a joke. post made by someone else, not even authored by you, but retweeted by you, which makes the gag,
Starting point is 01:12:08 which we saw all over social media. It was hilarious. And let's be honest, a lot of us actually feel this way. We think, please, Trump, come and take stama, come on a rare stump. Probation are investigating you because of that, because you retweeted a joke. Yeah, and something else that I said on GB News, that they do, you know, I was talking about the Alfata situation. But the point being, I'm generally.
Starting point is 01:12:32 at the point now where I feel like, can you just give me a list of things that I am allowed to say? Because every time I say something that you don't agree with or that you don't find funny, you're threatened to recall me to prison. And obviously, I don't want that to happen. And I completely appreciate for all the lunatics out there that I'm on license. I must, you know, tow the line. I'd hear my license conditions. But again, they tell us time and time and time again that we have free speech in this country.
Starting point is 01:13:02 And those that are like with me, goes, well, we do have free speech, but we don't have incitement and we don't have violence, you know, da-da-da-da-da, fine. Even if I accept that, what about, you know, I don't think you will find anything on my Twitter since I've made a return to Twitter since I've been to prison that you would deem offensive or incitement. It's just not. And I literally, I'm living in fear that they're going to recall me at any point because And recall means you literally go back to prison.
Starting point is 01:13:31 So have the rest of your prison. sentence. Which is how long? How long? To March 27. For God's sake. This is not. Can I just ask, because I think the specifics matter here, what was it that they claimed that you said about Al-Fatar that was wrong on GBA? I'm not going to repeat it. I basically said, I used another word to say he's of not good character. Okay. And she's, you know, we were talking about, I was basically a guy,
Starting point is 01:13:57 a guy, can I just remind everyone, a guy who basically says that he wants all the white people and Britain killed. Yeah, and that was my point. And when I was on GB News, I made the point that we have enough people of not good character in our own country that do awful things. We don't need to be importing anymore.
Starting point is 01:14:15 But apparently you're not allowed to say that either. Let me just bring in our other superstar panelists today, Montgomery, Tom's and Chris Davies. Chris, this is mental. This is nuts. This is a deep state attack. I'm sorry. It really is, Dan.
Starting point is 01:14:32 I think, you know, When you look at this, we all remember Stama sort of standing next to Trump saying that we've had free speech for a very long time and it will be around for a very long time. Nonsense. What we have is compelled speech. What we have is controlled speech. What we have, and like Lucy, I mean, I'm obviously fortunately not in the position
Starting point is 01:14:57 that Lucy is in where she's frankly treading on eggshells. but I'm expecting the knockdown any day because I am unfiltered in what I post on X. Oh, yes, you are and I love it. Well, you know and I know, Dan, offence can never be given. It can only be taken. It's completely subjective. You know, you've got the gag about, you know, Rosie Jones. Is she a comedian?
Starting point is 01:15:25 Is she funny? I don't find a funny, so I switch her off. Okay, not for me. Not funny. Leo curse. I'd watch him all day. long and that's my choice but some people are offended by that but this offence archaeology this nonsense that lucy is going through from Marxism Dan has taken over all of our public institutions
Starting point is 01:15:44 from the police down through the education system seemingly right down to the probation service and I hate the thought that we live in a country that is trying to tie lucy's shoelaces together to make sure she gets recalled that to me is absolutely abhorrent and I hope that that Sarah from the US is watching this because Sarah Rogers, until yesterday, most of us, unlike Lucy's never heard of her, she is a revelation. She can come to the UK anytime.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Yeah, no, she is great. She really is great. But Montgomery Tom's, it does just show you, doesn't it, what our criminal justice system is obsessed with? You know, they are not obsessed with stopping real crimes, violent crimes. They are obsessed with shutting down.
Starting point is 01:16:31 speech. And this is why you've got Montgomery, people like Elon Musk, reposting to millions around the world, pictures saying, here's the world's biggest prison island. You know, it's shocking. Yeah, we've only got to look at David, David Lammy and I'm wanting to, you know, scrap jury trials for the most part. I mean, you know, I'm as cutthroat as you can be. And, you know, I was arrested not long ago, not for posting something online, but for wearing a placard stating that, you know, to be transgender is to be mentally ill. That's happening on the actual streets when you're on a grassroots level. But I take also precautions without being too descriptive in case I get a knock at the door. And when I actually see sirens come past my house, I flinch. And I think, oh, right,
Starting point is 01:17:19 do I need to get ready for a knock on the door right now? Just based on tweets that I make, because you just don't know. And I think, you know, what Lucy's doing is that that level of strength and integrity as well is incredibly admirable and keep it up. And we're all backing and supporting because, yeah, we're dealing with there aren't words. Well, there are words, but I don't want to, trying to be a little bit like Lucy. But he has to be these things. But Lucy, I am dealing, I'm loving how you're dealing with the trolls because you're calling them out and this is great. So I've got a couple of examples. I think this is so good.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Someone called Andy Mack posted you, that admit of a grift is something I must say. And you reposted him, humiliated him by writing, imagine thinking you're a kind person and much better than the likes of me, but think to yourself, let's troll this sea word. I mean, I know she lost a child and got banged up for over 12 months away from her other child, but that's not quite enough punishment for being angry and upset over the massacre of children. She definitely hasn't paid the price.
Starting point is 01:18:20 So what I will do is jump on her tweets and try and bring her down a little bit more. Newsflash, I survived the death of my child and a year in jail. You will never win. Happy Sunday, Andy, and all the other trolls. Oh, and you're also contributing to my grief sharing my posts. So thanks. And then you wrote, I'd like to thank those that have shown their concern over my prison weight gain. You will be pleased to know that I have given up uncooked potato witches, haravos,
Starting point is 01:18:50 and Motherfired and I am almost at my pre-prison weight. I can almost lift the weight I could pre-prison too. I have the best PT and a gym membership, which I can afford because of all the gorgeous people that donated to help me get my life back on track when I came home forever grateful. It's good to be me. And again, Lucy, I'm just loving this. I'm loving it.
Starting point is 01:19:08 It's totally the right approach. Calling these people out, celebrating who you are, but also what you've come through. Exactly. And you know what? you don't have, I've said this time and time again, you don't have to like what I said and did, you don't have to agree with it, you can agree with the prison sentence, that's your prerogative, but I have done my time, I paid the price. I am on Twitter like any other person
Starting point is 01:19:33 posting the same stuff that I posted, you know, before I went to prison, you know, about the gym, about this, about that, you know, and then you've got people, you know, every, there's not a day goes, fat racist, fat seat word racist, you're a fat racist, you know, you don't go to the gym and all this, that and the other, you know, it's just so silly and so childish. And they just, the thing that annoys me about it the most is the hypocrisy and the irony. You know, these are the Be Kind Brigade. They are, you know, we must be kind to everybody. We must not cause offence, but it's all right for you to tell me that my, you know, child must be ashamed of me, and I'm a fat grifting racist and all of this. Fine. If that's what you, you want to say,
Starting point is 01:20:17 that's what you think, that's up to you. But don't come at me and tell me that you're a better person than me when you're spouting stuff like that. Totally. But this is always the irony, isn't it? It's always the irony of the be kind, woke moat. That always the least kind, the most aggressive, the most authoritarianism, but they're losing.
Starting point is 01:20:39 They're losing. Imagine taking time out of your day to ring probation for the police, which happens weekly with me. And wasting. wasting the time of someone who actually should be trying to keep the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs on parole for the right reasons.
Starting point is 01:21:00 You know, not Lucy Connolly, who is not posing any threat to the British public. No, it's astonishing. We're all Lucy Connolly now, Dan. We are. We are indeed. Very well put. Lucy Connolly, we can obviously find you on X. What is your handle there, Lucy? What is it?
Starting point is 01:21:16 It's Tory councillor. wife, isn't it? Yeah. At T.C. Wight. Yeah. T.C. Wight.
Starting point is 01:21:23 That stands for Tory councillor's wife because that's my name now. I changed it by deed poll. Very good. Montgomery, Tom's host of the brilliant new show. I have to say, Montgomery, your studio is looking
Starting point is 01:21:36 lovely. Host of the Montgomery Tom's show, which is available on YouTube. Very good stuff. And of course, Chris Davies,
Starting point is 01:21:47 my good friend and the founder of true conservative media. So brilliant to have all three of you here today. Now, we are going to reveal our greatest Britain union jackass imminently, but I've got to give you this feedback about the whole Reform UK situation and Isabel Oakshod and Richard Tice declaring war on outspoken. Thank you for the superchats, by the way. Shavak 2 UK150, who is my number one supporter right now on YouTube, bless you, says if someone were to write a sitcom about an up-and-coming political party along the lines of yes, minister, this is what we would get. Zuzadud says, I finally today managed to block my automatic payment to reform for my annual renewal, so clearly not going down well there. Marak says all these ex-stories and possibly Labor
Starting point is 01:22:36 MPs jumping on the bandwagon. Farage has scupper reforms path. It's on purpose to keep the two-party party system. That's an interesting thought. Mr. Duff Bend says, who's next to join reform? Matt Hancock? Bill Gates. It's fun. Honestly, stranger things have happened, right? Dan T. says he has his wife, talk from this is on Richard Tyson, Isabel Oakshot. That should tell you everything about the man. And as for reform, I did warn folk. Gary J.G. says reform blocked me off their live stream because they didn't like me asking questions about what happened with Lowe's guns, referring to Rupert Lowe and the seizure of his guns after Zia Yusuf made that completely spurious police complaint. And Alec Martin, 2661 says reform is the right name for them.
Starting point is 01:23:19 They are reforming the Conservatives under another name. I thought that was very clever. Reforming the Conservatives. Alec, well done for that. Okay, a reminder of today's greatest Britain Union jackass nominees. Well, the worst Britain in the world nominees first up. Deborah Meadon, nominated by the Gryft Report for Lute for moaning about losing 30,000 followers on X.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Nigel Farage nominated by Chufsi over that Nadim Zahawi defection. And Chris Bryant, nominated by Sarah Booth, for posting that a ban of X was simply a conspiracy theory. He then got community noted. I think the post was deleted as well. These results are interesting. 16% of you going for Deborah Mead and 21% Chris Bryant. But by an overwhelming 63% majority, your union. and Jackass today, the worst Britain in the world today, is the reform UK leader Nigel Farage?
Starting point is 01:24:16 I think, not entirely sure, but I think that's the first time. That's happened. I'll have to check. And today's greatest Britain is Jeff Banks. We saw him earlier in the Digest, nominated by Steve Chesby, for trying to bring the right together. A united right, Steve says, is the only way to defeat Stama and Labour. Okay, there's lots of big royal breaking news. going on. Harry and Megan have just quit another charity. This one for grieving parents. Honestly, I'm really shocked by this story. So we're going to reveal that and why Prince William is banning Harry and Megan from a castle, which I think Charles probably thought Highgrove, you know, royal residence at least, not officially a castle, that I think King Charles thought he had the right over.
Starting point is 01:25:11 all kicked off. The Daily Mail has actually had to delete a story from the internet. We're going to reveal all with Antil 11 over on Substack for our Royal Uncanceled After Show. You can join us there at www. www.com.com. But I will be back with you live tomorrow 5pm UK time, midday Eastern, 9 am. Pacific. Make sure you hits that subscribe button on YouTube. It's the best way to help this independent media venture. You know we are pushing for 700,000 subscribers. When can we do it? Hopefully soon. Hopefully we'll get there with your support. It's totally free. You just hit subscribe. Also available totally for free now as a podcast on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Most importantly, I promise to keep fighting for you.

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