Dan Wootton Outspoken - ROYAL CRISIS AS CRIMINAL PROBE INTO ANDREW WIDENS & PRINCE WLLIAM PREPS FOR CHARLES ABDICATION

Episode Date: May 22, 2026

BREAKING TODAY: The Royal Family is plunged into a horror new crisis as the British police widen the extensive criminal probe into ex-Prince Andrew into sex offences, significantly increasing the poss...ibility of a trial of Mountbatten Windsor, given cops are now asking victims to come forward. This is a nightmare scenario that could even result in the abdication of the terminally ill King Charles as Prince William prepares. Former head of Royal protection Dai Davies will be joining us to reveal the latest on this shocking developing story momentarily. Also today: The Fake News Agents in an on air meltdown over the growing influence of Tommy Robinson after the Unite the Kingdom rally is backed by US Vice President JD Vance, as the leftist bid to smear Reform UK and Restore Britain in the Makerfield by-election continues, but it’s actually Andy Burnham who is feeling the heat. Joining us for the entire show is Host of Tomlinson Talks on YouTube and Substack Connor Tomlinson. PLUS: Angela Rayner dragged into a shocking Labour election fraud claim, with accusations her kitchen was used for the plot. AND: GB News makes extensive and sweeping staff cuts just like Ben Shapiro’s Daily Wire. We’ll reveal the new trouble at the so-called People’s Channel. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Prince William speaks out about Catherine and the children in a highly personal live TV interview with Amanda Holden and Jamie Theakston. We’ll analyse what it means with royal YouTube sensation P-Dina. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 498. And breaking right now, the royal family plunged into a horror new crisis, as the British police widen the extensive criminal probe into ex-Prince-Prince-on-Straint to sex offences, significantly increasing the possibility of a trial of Mountbatten, Windsor, given cops, are now asking victims to come forward. That detectives are investigating Andrew Mountbatten-Winzer for possible sex offences. The offence can potentially include sexual misconduct, abuse of position and corruption. This is now a nightmare scenario for the royal family that could even result in the abdication of the terminally ill King Charles III.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Is there any sense in which the king can conduct an inquiry into himself? I mean, it's, you know what I mean? It's kind of like... It's a big worry. You know, the wagons are circling to protect the king. Former head of Royal Protection, Di Davies, will be joining us to reveal the latest on this shocking, developing story momentarily.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Also today, the fake news agents in an on-air meltdown over the growing influence of Tommy Robinson after the United Kingdom rally is backed by US Vice President J.D. Vance, as the leftist bid to smear reform UK and restore Britain in the make of field, field by election continues, even though it's actually Andy Burnham of Liber who is feeling the heat. You know what, he's right. It is absolutely fine to want to defend your culture. It is absolutely fine to want to understand who is coming into your country. That is J.D. Vance, who is nonetheless
Starting point is 00:01:48 siding with one Tommy Robinson after Saturday's protest. Anything on Brexit at all, Mr. Burnham? There's nothing on Brexit. He unloaded an almighty tirade of fury and refused to answer my question. Indeed, told me off for calling him mate. Joining us for the entire show, host of Tomlinson talk on YouTube and substack Connor Tomlinson. Also coming up today, Angela Rainer dragged into a shocking Labour election fraud claim with accusations her kitchen was used for the plot. And GB News makes extensive and sweeping staff cuts. just like Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire,
Starting point is 00:02:32 we'll reveal the new trouble at the so-called people's channel. Then, in the Royal Uncanceled After Show over on Substack, Prince William speaks out about Catherine and the children in a highly personal live TV interview with Amanda Holden and Jamie Thigston. We'll analyse what it all means with Royal YouTube Sensation P. Diner. That's after the main show at www.outspoken.life. Because it's Friday, we'll also be crowning the worst Britain in the world this week. We've already had, I think, 60,000 votes.
Starting point is 00:03:02 You can vote in the post tab on YouTube, but here are your nominees. This is your union jackass choices from across the week going head to head. On Monday, it was Siddeek Khan. On Tuesday, Pearz Morgan. On Wednesday, Slippery Stummer. And on Thursday, Judge Neil Flewett, KC. Now, he may not be a household name, but he is the dude behind the retrial of the Manchester airport attackers. So get voting, keep your comments coming through.
Starting point is 00:03:33 I will read out the best at the end of the show today. But now, let's go. The chances of a terminally ill and cancer-stricken King Charles been forced to abdicate over the allegedly criminal actions of his brother, ex-Prince Andrew, have just significantly increased today. But the Royal Rota and the mainstream media will not discuss the reality of this growing major crisis
Starting point is 00:04:01 for the British royal family, potentially an extensional crisis for King Charles III. Because I can reveal today that sources close to Prince William think there is at least now some sort of possibility that he could have to take the throne while his father remains alive, given the growing disaster around the criminal probe into the now disgraced Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor. At 6 a.m. this morning, the King's worst nightmare came true
Starting point is 00:04:29 As police investigating misconduct claims against the former Duke in connection to Jeffrey Epstein, those claims saw him arrested at Sandryman February, remember, announced that the extent of their probe was being dramatically extended. It will now also include sex crimes. And they made an unprecedented call for survivors and victims to come forward. Here's how the MSM announced the news. So we start with the breaking news. Detectives investigating Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor,
Starting point is 00:05:04 say they're examining a number of aspects of alleged misconduct in public office. The offence can potentially include sexual misconduct, abuse of position and corruption. Thames Valley Police is understood to be assessing some specific reports that a woman was allegedly taken to an address in Windsor in two years. LBC understands that detectives are investigating Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, for possible sex offences. A woman has claimed convicted paedophile Geoffrey Epstein sent her to Andrew's premises at the Royal Lodge in Windsor in 2010. Detectives are waiting to interview a woman in the United States who claims she was taken to Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor's former home for sexual purposes in 2010. minutes, the Sun's well-connected crime editor, Mike Sullivan, revealed the CPS may charge Andrew
Starting point is 00:06:05 with misconduct in public office for standalone offenses or both. And a source also told sly news, people mistakenly think we are looking at finance-based crime. But that couldn't be further from the truth. Misconduct in public office covers many things, including sex offenses, fraud, corruption, perverting the course of justice, and others. We have a much broader view. We are investigating all aspects, and we will go where the evidence lead us. Meanwhile, the Daily Telegraph reported that as part of its investigation, Thames Valley Police will review existing allegations of sexual misconduct. So the detectives investigating claims that Windsor passed sensitive information to Epstein, and we know that that included when he was a special
Starting point is 00:07:01 representative for trade and investment, are now going much further. And they use the line sexual or inappropriate relationships, saying that is according to Crown Prosecution Service guidelines. They add that prosecutors must then prove that the alleged misconduct amounted to a willful abuse of power. Police were also understood to be considering investigating potential corruption and fraud crimes. Thames Valley Police is assessing one allegation that a woman was trafficked into Britain by Epstein in 2010 to have sex with Mr Mountbatten, Windsor at Royal Lodge in Windsor. So you can see, this is a car crash, this is a total nightmare. And even though we may not be feeling the same shock as we did when the police actually turned up, to see,
Starting point is 00:07:55 Andrinem and arrested Andrew in February. Actually, this announcement today has shaken the royal family to its core. Because remember, as Tom Sykes and Andrew Loney have just admitted, this was a decision to go further and to cooperate with the police by Prince William, not King Charles. When Charles was really resisting any action against Andrew, and William was really saying, you know, we have to let the police in, we have to let the police do their worst,
Starting point is 00:08:30 we have to let, you know, we have to remove all the protection from him. We have to kick him out of the tent so that he's not part of us. And if that means that he ends up in a court cell or a jail, you know, we'll have to see how the cards fall. People close to Charles were telling me at the time, it's all very well to say that when you're not the king. But when you're king, things look a little different. You know, I mean, is there any sense in which,
Starting point is 00:08:56 which the king can conduct an inquiry into himself. I mean, do you know what I mean? It's kind of like. The big worry, you know, the wagons are circling to protect the king. It is a real problem, you know, and if people keep pressing it, you know, and that means it's clearly a question
Starting point is 00:09:13 that's been asked time and time again by when they go out and it's not being answered. You know, I suspect, you know, Charles gave undertakings to his mother to take care of Andrew. I suspect that the deal was done to get Andrew out of Royal Lodge, that may have involved, you know, taking care of the daughters. And there may be concerns about keeping them in the tent still,
Starting point is 00:09:33 rather than being a loose cannon outside. And the one way they can control both Andrew and Sarah Ferguson is through the future of the daughters. So there may be that made something in this. But I think William realizes the reputational damage. Well, he does. But the big problem for the king, of course, is that the courts are his court.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And as the reality of Andrew, invoking his older brother in court becomes at least a closer possibility, it becomes harder to see how Charles can remain on the throne. Of course, in his TV address just last month, Charles insisted that he will not abdicate. In this, I renew my own solemn pledge of duty and service to you all.
Starting point is 00:10:21 But will it really be his choice? Now, I want to be very clear. I believe in the constitutional monarchy. I believe our system will be significantly weakened of King Charles does have to leave his job, because it's not a job, is it? It's an ordained role for life by God. He is head of the Church of England. So as yet, I have not called for that, and I do not call for that today. But if Andrew is charged and does not plead guilty, and why would he? Because then he'd be going to jail, without any doubt, I think this situation is going to become historically difficult for Charles to navigate. And that's before you get to his failing health and his general unpopularity over his links to Islam, despite the fact he did a very good job in Washington, D.C. with President Trump during
Starting point is 00:11:14 last month's state visit. Now, for a matter of history, I want to read to you now this entire unprecedented police statement, which we knew about yesterday, but was somewhat bizarrely embargoed by the police until 6 a.m. this morning. Here we go. Thames Valley Police is continuing an investigation into misconduct in public office. On the 19th of February, 26, a man in his 60s, Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor from Norfolk, was arrested on suspicion of misconduct and public office. He was interviewed under caution and released under investigation on the same day. Two addresses. And Boucheran and Norfolk were searched. Following the arrest and search activity, we have been working with the United States Department of Justice to get further information
Starting point is 00:12:08 that may be related to this investigation. That's big. We have also been working with the Crown Prosecution Service in the United Kingdom and have sought early investigative advice from them, as we would in serious, complex or sensitive cases. The investigation is examining a number of aspects of alleged misconduct following the release of files under the Epstein Files Transparency Act in the United States. We are also speaking with a number of witnesses. However, as per national guidance, we cannot confirm or deny the identities of these individuals.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Now, by the way, some of those individuals are believed to include the likes of former prime ministers. Thames Valley Police Assistant Chief Constable Oliver Wright went on the record in this statement to say, our misconduct in public office investigation is continuing. Misconduct in public office is a crime that can take different forms, making this a complex investigation. Our team of very experienced detectives are working meticulously through a significant amount of information that has come in from the public and other sources. We are committed to conducting a thorough investigation into all reasonable lines of inquiry wherever they may lead. We encourage anyone with information to get in touch with us through the normal non-urgent contact channels, such as the Thames Valley Police Online Portal. I understand the high level of interest in this work, but please be patient as we continue.
Starting point is 00:13:41 to actively progress our investigation. We will provide further updates to the public and media when appropriate. We will continue to work with the National Police Chiefs Council and other police forces to coordinate the National Policing Response to the Epstein files. As part of this, Thames Valley Police is actively supporting national policing and contacting Epstein victims and survivors. And this is highly significant. We hope that anyone with relevant information will come forward Whenever they are ready to engage with us, our door is always open. Just think about this for one moment. This is the police directly calling on Epstein victims and survivors to come forward to help in their investigation.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Not overall, as was discussed before, but specifically in regards to Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, the King's brother. We're witnessing history here. Nothing like this has ever happened before. The statement went on. In addition to the investigation into misconduct and public office, the assessment of reports that a woman was taken to an address in Windsor in 2010 for sexual purposes is ongoing. We have engaged with the woman's legal representative to confirm that should she wish to report this to police,
Starting point is 00:15:02 it will be taken seriously and handled with care, sensitivity and respect for her privacy and her right for anonymity. We recognise how difficult it can be to speak about experiences of this nature, and any contact with police will be led by her wishes, when and if she feels ready and able to do so. Wow. So let me bring in now for analysis on this major breaking news story, the former head of Royal Security, Dai Davies, who joins me alongside Connor Tomlinson.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Dai Davies, this is the sort of news that even just a few months ago felt impossible to believe. No one actually thought that the police die were really going to conduct the type of meaningful investigation into Andrew Mountbatten Windsor that would include these sexual allegations as well. Now confirmation that this probe has indeed widened and the neck seems to be tightening on Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Now, you have very much been behind these calls for a wider investigation. Do you feel today, Die, like the police are doing enough? Well, a very good afternoon to you, Dan. I feel vindicated because going back six years ago, I went on newsnight. Yes, you did. A day or two after Andrew. and I called then for the Metropolitan Police to investigate Andrew. And I said on that program and many others following,
Starting point is 00:16:47 if there was evidence properly obtained, they should go and interview him. And if the evidence pointed to an offence, that should be under caution. Here we are six years on, and it's taken this length of time and the release of some of the Epstein files. and let's face it, a lot of it hasn't come out yet, but now at long last, not the Met, but Thames Valley have included what I've been asking for,
Starting point is 00:17:16 along with Andrew Lowney and one or two others, for the police simply to do their job and go where the evidence takes them. And again, that should be he is not guilty until evidence shows otherwise. And I stress that, but by gum. There's so much evidence now. It's surely right, both in this country,
Starting point is 00:17:41 where victims are alleged to have been attacked by him, and attack is the word I would use. Then again, I would say, let's find the evidence. I hope the USA are providing further evidence. They were reluctant to do so because of a spat between our government. But let's face it, for years now, people have been asking the questions and everything, everyone in the establishment has said there's nothing to see here. This is like an octopus with tentacles.
Starting point is 00:18:14 The tentacles have reached every level of the establishment and a number, I hope, are quaking because they've aided and abet him, I allege, if the allegations are true. So I'm delighted in a professional sense. I have no feelings for Andrew one way or the other, but professionally, over 56 years of investigation on this earth, I wanted investigated it properly, and those, including prime ministers who have aided and abetted, those in the palace, and whether it's the king, his son, or Uncle Tom Copley and all,
Starting point is 00:18:51 if they have evidence and they can be seen to have aided and abetted Andrew and covered up, as many, many surely have in terms of malfeasance in public office, then I've hoped of goodness, at long last, they're going to have their collars felt. So, Di, there's a lot to pick up on there. But the first thing is how significant the cooperation is with the FBI, the US authorities. This statement seems to suggest that there is now cooperation. Was that your reading of it?
Starting point is 00:19:28 Well, yes, the commissioner went over a month or two. The commissioner of the ment went over asking for that. As I say, historically, there's been a failure of communication by us and again on their part because of a spat. The FBI, as you know, called for an investigation to take place here. They provided certain documentation, and the then Home Secretary declined because of this. so-called spat. I don't know the details of that, but again, successive lawyers for Virginia Guffrey asked for inquiries to be made here. Four times the Met said there's nothing to see here or we have no jurisdiction. I took exception with that under the Sexual Offences Act 2003,
Starting point is 00:20:18 because I am told the 2015 Act didn't apply, which is a shame. No, but there's sufficient evidence I say from victims, both Virginia Guffrey and sadly she's dead, but other victims to allow the police to go ahead and question him. But the sexual side has been put to one side for some time. The malfeasance and the abuse of his position has been looked at and is being looked at in conjunction. So again, there's so much to unravel. There are so many people, as I keep saying, who've covered up for him. I hope now they can be done for aiding and abetting him. So, Di, it is looking increasingly unlikely, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:21:05 And of course, you know, we both believe in innocent until proven guilty. We both believe that this should be due process. But I think we both also believe there has been a monumental establishment cover-up going on for nearly two decades on this. So that's why there's had to be this pressure. But, you know, Andrew Loney has. said for a long time, he thinks that the deep state will still work in mysterious ways to ensure that Andrew evades justice. Are you so sure of that now? Because I'm looking at this,
Starting point is 00:21:38 and I know how these things work, die, so do you. And this is now feeling much more like the police believe that this is almost certainly going to end up in court, that he will be charged. cooperating with the Crown Prosecution Service. Do you feel that same thing that this is now heading towards a charge? Well, I certainly feel at long last, the Thames Valley Police, in conjunction with other forces who also are looking into trafficking offences, along with the National Crime Agency, and along with the Council of Police Chief and Uncle Tom Copley and all, they are now in a position where they have to be seen to do the job properly. No more hiding.
Starting point is 00:22:28 The question is, how far will they take it and how many people will be dragged into it? That's crucial in my opinion because Andrew was just a figurehead of being allowed by the establishment to abuse his position, I alleged, to spend millions and millions of our money on his protection throughout this time and the spending.
Starting point is 00:22:51 So there's a huge range, of allegations if it was you and I that were public servants, and let's discuss that. I say he was a public servant. I've just come back from lecturing on a high-end cruise, where people, a lawyer was telling me, I was having dinner with him, aha, you've got to prove he was a public servant. Well, that definition applies on common sense. It's what you and I as reasonable people on the clapamon of us as used to be, and the Lord Denning, what did we think was reasonable?
Starting point is 00:23:23 think it was reasonable, but his activities of spending thousands and thousands on hotels, allegedly on prostitutes, I'm sure we paid for, and so on and so forth. So there is a huge range of activity which he should be investigating before we go to a breach of this official secret sect. The question has to be, where was HMRC over this? Where was the Foreign and Commonwealth Office? Where were the permanent secretaries? I could go on. I could go on. I think he should bring down the range of civil servants who must have known and then we can move to the palace they knew what was going on well this is what i wanted to ask you die this is what i want to say the every single private secretary uh to the queen must have known and somehow nobody did
Starting point is 00:24:15 anything so they need some answering so then we get to the king die and The king has had a very good couple of months. I don't think anyone can deny that. The state visit to the US was a triumph. His cancer treatment has really worked. So even though the cancer is terminal, his ability to work and to function is so much better than it was. And there is hope died that he could live for many years.
Starting point is 00:24:48 But the abdication threat after the widening of this probe to do. has not gone away. Because how on earth can King Charles remain on the throne if Andrew is going to invoke his older brother in his potential defence? Do you think King Charles's role itself is under threat now? Well, it's very interesting. As you well remember, and I know of a documentary I took part in
Starting point is 00:25:22 about Burrell trial when he was alleged to have spoken to the Queen over the safekeeping of property, which was an absolute nonsense as well as I was concerned, anyway, they stopped the case. And then I argued they shouldn't have stopped the case. There was more enough evidence if the CPS and the police had done their job properly to proceed, even though, and you couldn't call the queen in the same way constitutionally, you can't call the king. and the only way you could possibly then do it is as happened in Spain.
Starting point is 00:25:54 The king abdicated there. I'm not alleging our king has behaved like the king of Spain. But what I am saying, there are questions to ask of him and the only way you can do it, presumably, is if he does abdicate. I can't see any other way, really.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Or can you can't prosecute the king in his own court. Unless there's a way to get, sorry, I'd finish your point. Yeah, the only way he arguably would give evidence or agrees to give evidence if he was no longer the king. And his son was the king, but it's somewhere we've never been before. And the best thing. What if Prince Andrew agreed to, sorry, ex-Prince Andrew agreed to plead guilty? Yeah, that would be the only way that I see it.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And what I also say, others could be prosecuted a whole range of others that they could invoke. Well, the king knew, why are you doing me? Okay, Di, stand by because I want to bring Connor Tomlinson, host of Tomlinson talks in on this. Connor, this is becoming an increasing existential crisis for the reign of King Charles III. What's your reaction to the widening of this probe today? Well, Dye makes a good point in that this should be the first domino to fall in regards to all the people that presumably knew about these activities if they were. were criminal activities going on here. So we should be looking into police, previous royal protection, the foreign office and various civil servants that would have known that Andrew was engaging
Starting point is 00:27:27 in said alleged behaviours in his role as a foreign diplomat. But I must say that, and I don't want to use the word scapegoat, but I'm not sure what other word to use here. But it does feel like you had, with the revelations from the Epstein files, with the Peter Mandelson scandal, Mandelson was arrested for going for a wee outside George Osborne's house, and as of yet we haven't had much on the state secrets that he allegedly leased Jeffrey Epstein or, you know, anything worse. Kirstarmer still hasn't suffered consequences for ignoring the foreign office vetting to bypass, to just install Peter Mandelson as the ambassador to the United States. I mean, he made Morgan McSweeney a sacrificial lamb. Now it feels like Andrew himself is a sacrificial lamb, not just
Starting point is 00:28:14 for the entire institutions that would have known about this behavior, as Dye says, but also for the rest of the Epstein class that are backstage instead embedded in our government, and also the lack of accountability for members of the Epstein class that are in the US government. I mean, we've known, unfortunately, that there are members of the Trump administration who haven't been quite so truthful about their relations with Jeffrey Epstein. I think it was Howard Lutnik, who said, oh, I barely even spoke to him, and he went to the island after he was alleged to have done so, and is also making quite a lot of money off of a Trump administration policy.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I would raise my eyebrow out that. So, look, I'm very happy with the investigation to be broadened out, and I'm happy for anyone who did anything wrong to face consequences. But I don't have a lot of faith that they will face substantive consequences, and I do feel, like, every so often, stories about Andrew's connections to Epstein are sort of thrown up as red meat for the public so that you don't look too closely at who else could be implicated with similar behavior that just hasn't been caught yet.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Yeah, very good point. and Di obviously totally agrees with you on that. Dye, where do you see this going next? I think we're going to have to wait several months now for the police inquiry. If there are victims to come forward, and I watched a number on the Newsnight program with Emily, where she actually went to America and spoke to five or six in the studio. And they were very convincing, I have to say.
Starting point is 00:29:40 One of them specifically made allegations, further allegations, The allegations that Virginia Guffrey give, I don't think they could use that anymore. But it shows a pattern of behavior. And if you're investigating anyone, you look for a pattern of behavior, particularly, as we now know, with sexual offenses. You know, so that's very important. What is important is that we find out why they decided in the Met not to investigate it. What now has made Thames Valley determined there are sexual offences. is what new evidence and et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:30:17 But the main thing, as far as I'm concerned, not only is attacking females, but also the allegation that he gave information of a sensitive and often secret to various aspects. I don't find he's a scapegoat. He's merely like the iceberg, the bit we can see of the corruption that's endemic in so many institutions of our...
Starting point is 00:30:44 country, including the politicians, and I'm screaming out. And if this brings down a government or it brings down the civil servants or the palace at the highest level, then so be it. We have to come back to ethical behavior in public life. And if the palace and the civil servants and the foreign and Commonwealth can't demonstrate they act ethically and they allow people like Andrew and others and he's not the only one to behave like this, then we need a good shake-up in this country. And if this is what helps bring it about, then so be it. Well, Di Dye Davies, former head of Royal Protection. Thank you so much for your work on this.
Starting point is 00:31:26 And of course, we will be keeping in touch with you as this major royal story develops. Breaking today, the left in Britain losing their mind. over the growing People's Revolution, led by Reform UK and Restore Britain, in the Maker Field by-election, and on the streets, Tommy Robinson and the United Kingdom Rally, which has this week received the support of J.D. Vance, the vice president of the USA. Leading the charge against that people power is the media elite class, specifically Little Lewis Goodall. and Emily Maitlis of the fake news agents who have had to admit overnight through gritted teeth and through disgust.
Starting point is 00:32:15 So actually, I think we can really enjoy watching this, that Tommy Robinson is after the weekend, the most important political figure in this country. You know what? He's right. It is absolutely fine to want to defend your culture. It is absolutely fine to want to understand who is coming into your country. That is J.D. Vance, who is nonetheless siding with one Tommy Robinson after Saturday's protest, because he believes that Tommy Robinson represents the best of British values and culture. And it remains extraordinary that we are in a sense, and it reflects kind of what we were talking about before, which is how pickled the brains of the Republican Party has become,
Starting point is 00:33:01 that this is somehow that he has become Robinson. I found this when we're in Dallas for CPAC. It's disturbing to think. I honestly think Tommy Robinson is the most influential British, I almost hesitate to refer to him this way, political figure in this country. It's not Liz Truss, it's not, you know, Kyrgyzum or whatever, for a big part of the MAGA right,
Starting point is 00:33:24 which is basically the right in American politics and the right is in office, therefore it's the most powerful bit. Genuinely, he is almost sort of talismanic and is someone that they literally would listen to the nonsense that he spused and spouts about Britain that they would take as red as opposed to over and above any other
Starting point is 00:33:41 British politician or British political figures. And of course, clueless mateless did her absolute best to try and do down Tommy Robinson having actually no understanding of the fact that he is completely behind the people of Iran. My favourite image, actually, of the weekend was Tommy Robinson
Starting point is 00:33:59 draped in the St George's flag in his protest, surrounded by lots of Sharrists, Iranians, draped in their flag, representing the Shah who was sort of marching alongside him. And I just imagine that he sort of looks around and goes, what? What? This is about Britain.
Starting point is 00:34:21 This is about England. What are all these foreigners doing? They're like, no, Tommy, we're with you. We're with you all the way. Well, and this is maybe, I mean, sort of like, grimly chuckle about, like, the sort of conservative party policy at the moment on the Gaza protest. versus the Tommy Robinson protest.
Starting point is 00:34:35 You sort of ask Conservative shadow ministers about it and they go, you know what? The Gaza protest, they're full of anti-seemites. And you're like, yes, we know there have been anti-semites on them. Like, wait till you find out about the far right lads. They were specialising in this before it was cool. Don't look at who's far in the phone. So I think all in all, like if that's your metric,
Starting point is 00:34:51 you might want to apply it a little bit more widely. But isn't great at all happens on the same day? Yeah, that is handy. This scathing hatred of British Patriots is so clear, isn't it? And this is the type of thing that Reform UK and Restore Britain are having to put up with as the Makerfield by-election, the most important by-election in history, comes to a head. Lowe visiting the Manchester constituency yesterday posted,
Starting point is 00:35:20 Makerfield is rapidly becoming one of my favourite places in the country. Proper pub. Restore Britain is going to get thousands and thousands of votes in Makerfield. Let me be clear. we are in this to win it. And Rupert was certainly loving life as he toured the constituency with Montgomery Tombs. Right, we're not in the Tesla today,
Starting point is 00:35:43 but we're still going around. We're up north. How's it been? What's the reception been like? Well, I'd say it's almost better than Great Yarmouth, Monty, which takes some beating. I think we walked about 100 yards
Starting point is 00:35:55 and we must have been stopped by about two dozen people. It's quite incredible. And there's a sort of spirit of the battle. of Britain about it. I really think it's very exciting and that I've been telling people this is the most significant election probably in a hundred years and responsibility is on them to vote to take their country back. But what's so shocking is that a lot of the attacks on Restore is now coming from the establishment media, the so-called conservative media, the so-called right-wing media, which Rupert Lo pointed out, writing yet another hit piece in the Daily Telegraph against Restore
Starting point is 00:36:31 Britain labelling our policies repellent. I suspect there are a number of Daily Telegraph readers who disagree. Let's see if the paper gives me the opportunity to defend our party. Of course they won't. Of course they won't because Restore Britain is not a movement of the mainstream media. And it was Stephen Pollard who wrote this very unfair column about Restore Britain that the Daily Telegraph readers, let me tell you, totally despise. He argued for later. For later, Labor, Abernham win is vital. But for everyone else, and for those who fear what a revived Labour government will do to the country, a Burnham defeat is no less vital, which brings us to Rupert Lowe. The former Reform MP, who has set up his own vehicle, Restore, is naturally
Starting point is 00:37:19 putting all his and his party's efforts behind its candidate in Makerfield. Restorted well in the local elections in Great Yarmouth, winning all the council seats in which it stood, as it should have done, given that lowest local MP. Had it not done so, it would have signalled that he did not even have his own constituency behind him. But Restore is still a fringe party. There's nothing wrong with that in principle, even if some of its policies and some of its supporters are repellent. There should always be a place for niche parties. However, in the context of the battle to win in Megafield, even a vote in the low thousands, which Restore might well manage, given how fringe parties which attract publicity often do in by-elections could be hugely significant. Imagine
Starting point is 00:37:58 waking up on a Friday morning to find that Labor has won by a narrow margin of less than the vote secured by restore. Burnham would become PM and the country would be plunged leftwards by a government made possible only by a few people choosing to vote for a party that is in the wider scheme of things little more than a vanity project for Rupert Lowe
Starting point is 00:38:16 who thinks reform is not right-wing enough. Is that what any potential restore voters actually want? Meanwhile, the left-wing hit pieces on the Reform UK candidate Rob Kenyon, for his former social media post goes on. With the hard leftist MSM Schill Michael Crick, arguing if this is all true, then Robert Kenyon, the Reform candidate in Makerfield, is clearly bonkers and deeply unpleasant, and it's no wonder he was Facebook friends with the self-declared fascist Gary Reichs.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Reforms vetting processes seem about as effective as a chocolate teapot. I urge people to read the whole. not hate article, though they'll find it shocking, maybe the most astonishing sexual fantasy ever publicly described by a British politician. That was the one in regards to Carol Vorderman. If hope not hate have got it wrong and it's a mistake or fake, then Kenyon and reform should say so at once. But Connor Tomlinson argues that these hit pieces by the mainstream media and the left are now having the opposite effect. Writing they have no cachet anymore, they're actually going to make people more likely to vote for Robert Kenyon.
Starting point is 00:39:32 He argued McAfield is spitting distance from Bolton, Olden and Blackburn. Voters will know boys who have been beaten and girls prayed upon by Pakistani gangs, gangs which Burnham has refused to investigate. He says, the problem is larger than any potential repercussions caused by refusing to ignore it. And he's also backed Nigel Farage for not throwing Robert Kenyon under the Brexit bus, when asked why his old ex-account was suspended, adding perhaps reform are finally learning. Years after they were first warned that you don't need to disavow your candidates or supporters for the approval of the Westminster bubble media, who would rather see
Starting point is 00:40:13 you capsize than succeed. Conforming to their expectations is a betrayal of your base. If you have their approval, you've done something wrong. So Connor Thominson, it's fascinating what's happening in Makerfield, isn't it? And in some ways, I know you're a Restore Britain supporter, but actually what's been going on with Robert Kenyon and the fact that the mainstream media, the fact that the establishment are going so hard on him and Nigel Farage is not giving in,
Starting point is 00:40:43 I think makes it more difficult for restoring the seat, doesn't it? Absolutely, Dan. I mean, I haven't said much about this yet. I've got a video coming out over the weekend. But what I have said publicly is Rob Kenyon is a very strong candidate. All of the attacks on him have been for quote retweeting Rupert Lowe and Carl Benjamin. I hear from friends in HQ that he's one of our guys, so to speak. And so frankly, I wish him the best.
Starting point is 00:41:09 And he's going to prove very difficult for Restore Britain to defeat, given he already got like 32% in the last general election when Reform won't a national force. And actually, if you watch... his recent van man video with Nigel Farage, where he's just driving around detailing his personal history, how he met his wife working in a bar up the road, and all the places that have closed down in Makerfield over the years, including the maternity hospital that he's born in. He's just a local lad with a couple of kids, working hard, served in the army, helped out with the NHS,
Starting point is 00:41:41 and has been a good counsellor. And actually, the main drawback he has, I think, is Farage, because Farage at the moment, I mean, it's not just his decision that have alienated a significant portion of Reforms Base that might go over to restore. It's also that Farage has this, you know, this massive donation hanging over his head about Christopher Harbourn, which makes people feel as if he's in it for the money rather than to clean up areas like Makerfield. And then in that Van Man video, Farage said, have you noticed that, you know, teenagers don't really want to work these days?
Starting point is 00:42:10 It's like, Nigel, no. It's because of mass migration. It's because there are so many skilled worker visas that are working way below the minimum wage with loads of dependents. sorry, well, the median wage, basically minimum wage with loads of dependents, that are pricing teenagers out of work at the same time that minimum wage laws have been raised and it's making it more costly to hire teenagers. So if you want teenagers to get back into work, stop blaming them and stop saying, oh, you know, we need to get everyone to stop working from home.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Instead, talk about immigration in terms of labour force competition. This is something that would actually resonate with the low calls of Makerfield. And so I actually expect, Dan, that Rob is going to win this. He's probably going to deny Andy Burnham the seat, which is whether or not it's Andy Burnham or West Streeting or Stama clings on for dear life. It doesn't matter. The Labour Party is desolated anyway. And whichever party wins, I think you get one more patriotic MP, which is very, very good. And to talk about the attacks on Restore Britain, by the way, that you mentioned earlier, I do find it very conspicuous that the Telegraph has been one of the main mouthpieces for attacks against Rupert Lowe's character, because as a character
Starting point is 00:43:12 judgment, Rupert Lowe is an upstanding gentleman. And the grounds they keep attacking them on are from Khaled Hassan, Michael Mossbacher, and now Stephen Pollard. Now Stephen Pollard in the 90s, he wrote about this and Spectator, was the research director for the Fabian Society, so excuse me if I don't take your concern trolling about what the rights should do. But it is conspicuous that all of these writers are essentially Jewish partisans, and this is very, very contentious for me to say, but the main reason, the main policy is complaining about
Starting point is 00:43:37 is the ban on non-stun, kosher and halal slaughter. And I'm sorry, look, if your one issue is about the interests of your own particular identity group, or Israel, rather than the continued security of the main people in Britain who have typically better relationships of Jewish people than the Muslims that are trying to take over the country. If that's your main issue, then yeah, sorry, we're not on the same political side, because I care about my country and my people and my standards and exerting those. And if you're going to try and stop me from exerting those standards,
Starting point is 00:44:08 then actually I'm not going to listen to you as a moral authority of what we should and shouldn't do. Instead, you're just trying to like make special accommodations for your personal preference, And we don't have time for that. We're just going to say, this is how we do things in Britain. And if you don't like it, I'm sorry, you should probably go somewhere else. And as some of my Jewish friends have joked, they'll happily go vegan to make sure that you get rid of all the Salafists and will harvest from the country because they can't eat halal meat anymore. I think it's important that we hear from Rebecca Shepherd to the Restore Britain candidate because you know my thing is, Connor, look, I think Robert Kenyon is a good candidate. But I hate the fact that the mainstream media will just totally ignore Rebecca Shepard. I won't do so on this show.
Starting point is 00:44:49 But I want to hear. Do you know what I mean? I think we need to hear from her. But she was on stage yesterday in the constituency with Rupert Lowe. Let's listen to this. We're racist or whatever, but you have to sleep in a bed, don't you? With all of your children, one bed, four people. And was told that immigrants took precedence over them getting help.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I can't stand by and let that happen. I can't. It's just not that we don't want to help, we do, but what about our people? What we're asking is that things are fair. Nobody's asking for anything that's not fair, I don't think. We just all think the same way. We all want to come together and make life better. It's not fair that we all need to struggle this much.
Starting point is 00:45:42 You know, charity starts a home. So, this is a very impressive woman, too. Let's see her. You know, we're talking about a star here. Yeah, no, I agree, Dan. I want to see more of her as well. In terms of the short clip that was released there, I agree with everything she said.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I do think she needs to internalize Rupert's I don't care a little bit more because she says it's not that we don't want to help. It's like, actually, I don't want to help every family from Afghanistan and Eritory and Iran and Iraq and just go down the list, mainly because they're dodgy men are committing sex crimes. I agree with her that charity starts at home,
Starting point is 00:46:22 but maybe what her adaptation of Rupert's I Don't Care should be is, I do care just not about them, I care about us, as she says, our people. As far as the mainstream media presence goes, so I don't want to get my friends in trouble at Restore, and this isn't one of the things that they're responsible for, it's someone else in Restore doing this, and just saying this is going to get me in trouble down, but I just think it needs to be said.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Rupert has had plenty of offers to do interviews on hostile media outlets, actually. And that's where he thrives best. We all remember him turning Emily Maitless into Rumpel Stiltskin, because she originally said, I don't care when she was calling him racist for doing the rape gang inquiry.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Someone in the party's being very risk-averse and saying, don't do it. The same thing Rebecca Shepard. They think that it's a Ming Vars strategy to walk her over the line in Makerfield. And I think that's a disaster, honestly. And I'm only saying this publicly because, you know, saying it privately
Starting point is 00:47:16 hasn't gotten me very far. But I just do think you need to be bolder. We are speaking the truth. if we have the right ideas on our side. And also, if we are to acknowledge that Rob Kenyon is a very strong candidate, probably make a good MP, right? If people that support Royal Britain want to make the case for their candidate who does not look as strong out the gate as Rob Kenyans,
Starting point is 00:47:35 then you need more airtime and you need Rupert to have more airtime too, and so take advantage of those opportunities. Don't feel afraid of going into the Lions Den because ultimately you're basically David in this situation. Connor, you've also been criticizing Kemi Badenock this week over a new interview that she's given. Watch this. Is ethnicity relevant to being British? No, I don't think so, but it's, well, it's not relevant. It's where and how people have grown up does have an impact. But being British is not about ethnicity, as I said earlier.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Connie, you responded publicly to that, writing British people have English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish heritage. Other definitions rely on the culture and identity that belongs to those people while trying to dispossess them of their country, incoherent and wrong. I would say she was uncomfortable during that answer. She probably knew she hadn't gone down the right path. Do you agree? So I did a sort of hour video actually, just pulling apart a five-minute clip of her answer, Dan,
Starting point is 00:48:43 because the interviews with my friend Elliot Bewick, and I think he did a good job sort of trying to press her on these topics. It's a very thick issue. But I think what she understands is she has a vested interest in advancing a definition that doesn't base British identity on the only firm foundations it has, which is the ethnic groups of being English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish, and having inherited the identity via ancestry, because otherwise that would disqualify her from being the leader of the Conservative Party. And that's where she's wanted to be all her life. And she would also have to revisit the uncomfortable conversation that her parents gave birth to her on the NHS shortly before Margaret Thatcher repealed birthright citizenship and made it by inheritance. So essentially, her claim to being British is a legal fiction. And instead, what she falls back on is abiding by norms and customs and culture. And okay, the problem with that definition is the prefix, British or English,
Starting point is 00:49:40 exists before those norms, customs, and culture, because they are the property of and the invention of the British people, the English, Scottish, Welsh, and Irish. Until the last 30 years where amnesia has been induced, maybe we could say since 1948 with the British Nationality Act and the Windrush, since this very small time period, amnesia has been induced about what a British person is, but throughout all of our history,
Starting point is 00:50:03 since we had the Union of the British Isles of Scotland, England, Wales, some of Ireland, before then, you were just referring to the English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish. And if you said that bloke is basically British, you know, the example that's always used as, you know, Ian Wright, for example, you would say, oh, he's basically one of us. It's extending a moral consideration.
Starting point is 00:50:20 The problem with Kemmy's definition is she's trying to make it a moral normative category to say we can consider basically all nice people British, but she isn't willing to say Kirstama isn't British. She isn't willing to say Zach Balansky isn't British. She wouldn't be willing if she got into government to repeal all of the British citizenships from basically the entirety of Bradford, Lester, Luton,
Starting point is 00:50:41 who live in queester-Ected sectarian ethnic enclaves that hate the native population and aren't British in any of the meaningful senses that she's trying to put forward, culture and law. So if you aren't willing to enforce British values or British culture, all you're doing is you're disconnecting the culture and the values from the people to whom it is intuitive, who have inherited it, while doing nothing about the demographics that is displacing them and dispossessing them of their own country. So ultimately,
Starting point is 00:51:05 it's an unsustainable and quite subversive definition. I'm not trying to say Kemi is trying to do all those things, but in the final analysis, it is that sort of thing. And so what we have to say is, yes, being British is a matter of ancestry. That doesn't mean people of other ancestries are bad people. It does mean that. that a small minority of people can marry into the tribe, so to speak, and become one of our adopted family members. Kemi's married a Scottish man, has half-Skottish children. But just as you can't write yourself into someone else's will, you can't identify as being a member of the family indistinguishable from the inherited line. And so, being British is about ethnicity, actually, and it's okay to say that.
Starting point is 00:51:42 It's just a fact. It's no more evil to say that than it is to say you can't put on a dress and call yourself a woman, something that Kemi has been a champion for across her career and so you can't apply trans logic to ethnicity either. You're also not impressed with the Labour MP, Jivan Sander, who has gone on politics Joe this week and actually said that real British culture, Connor, is multiculturalism. I'll let you respond, but first let's just look at what he said. The Britain that was born in the Second World War,
Starting point is 00:52:12 where people from across the empire came together at one moment to defeat fascism and we didn't give up. We stood together in unity and we were determined and we had decency towards one another. That was Britain at its best. And that Britain has changed through time. That people like me can come here on your sofa to Parliament. It doesn't matter what I look like. It's how I act.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And that's what the Britain we have is. Those historic values in the Second World War, a culture that's evolved through time, partly pints, partly keen politely, partly having a cup of tea, and different communities who come together, who all watch the England football team, who can do so whilst wearing an England football shirt,
Starting point is 00:52:48 who can do so while also wearing a hijab or not wearing a hijab. Like, those are things we can all do together. We shouldn't give into that division at all. Connor, why is he wrong? Okay, if the test is having a pint, then let's get that person wearing the hijabes have a pint, shall we, Dan? No, okay, so we're not playing this game anymore. And I don't like that, let me explain to you how your identity and culture actually includes me,
Starting point is 00:53:11 sir, routine, that he also did way back when Matt Goodwin made a pratt of himself running for Gorton and Denton. And he said, Matt Goodwin and Tommy Robinson aren't really really. And all you need to do is pause the screen at that point, because I'm sorry, I'm not listening to an Indian man, tell me what being British really is. Just as the Indians wouldn't listen to me if I went over to India and started telling them about what being Indian is. Just as he doesn't believe that Joe Analumli and George Orwell and Rudyard Kipling were Indian because they were born on Indian soil and brought up there. Right? We're not playing this game anymore. I know you're just being subversive. You're just trying to create space for yourself in our national politics and argue that you should actually be a
Starting point is 00:53:48 able to ascend the political ladder to enrich and empower yourself. Oh, and anyone who says, maybe we shouldn't have random foreigners governing in their interests in our parliament, you get to call racist. This is just enforcing a set of rules that advantage yourself and your ethnic group to the disadvantage of the British people. And so I'm just not taking lectures on my identity and my ancestry and my culture from this person, and I don't care if I upset him and I don't care what names he calls me. And what I find really irritating, Dan, is he's from the same political wing and nation,
Starting point is 00:54:18 the way, that say, Winston Churchill was an evil racist, he was genocide and he wanted to conjure a typhoon to cause a Bengal famine, and then he wants to engage in this Paddington Bear routine to say, Britain was at its best when it was fighting fascism, therefore you can't have any hard borders around your own identity and you must import Infinity Indians. Everyone is sick of this because they see their high streets change beyond recognition, they aren't going to forget Southport or the Manchester Arena bombing or the murder of Lee Rigby, whose anniversary is today, or the grooming gangs. And so, I'm sorry, no amount of these, the overtures made to biscuit-tin bulldog nationalism, we'll make them forget the atrocities that
Starting point is 00:54:54 have been perpetrated against us, by men largely from the region of the world where his ancestors come from, and so no thank you, we find it really condescending, we're not going to listen to it anymore, and millions must leave. The country is screwed, but things are going to get much worse under a hard-left Andy Burnham or a hard-left Angela Rainer, both in cahoots with the people who are going through an anti-democratic takeover of this country and an Islamist takeover of this country. But the pressure is starting to show on both of these people, okay? Andy Burnham is just losing the plot on the day that he announces his election campaign officially in Makerfield, the Daily Express, running with a front page about the fact that he is literally now running away from the Brexit question,
Starting point is 00:55:47 refusing to answer anything from the mainstream media. Watch. Anything on Brexit at all, Mr. Vernon? There's nothing on Brexit. Our readers are quite interested to know your position on Brexit, sir. If you want to be Prime Minister, you should probably answer questions about Brexit, sir. Well, he's literally answered questions about nothing. He's not taking any questions apart from favoured journalists working for woke outfits like The Daily Mirror.
Starting point is 00:56:26 and Wokai TV. But indeed, Burnham lost the plot during this abuse of exchange with the Daily Mail's senior political correspondent, Christian Calgi. Watch. I met Andy Burnham
Starting point is 00:56:42 on the campaign trail in Makerfield yesterday and he was not pleased to see me. I've been invited up by Reform and Nigel Farage to follow him and their candidate, Rob Kenyon, around in his white plumber's van, and we were given a tour of the constituency. when we stopped off at a beautiful lake where the candidate enjoys fishing.
Starting point is 00:57:02 And by complete spontaneous decision, we popped in for a cup of tea at the local cafe when I was told that Andy Burnham was sitting just metres away at exactly the same cafe in an outdoor gazevo. And I tried going and talking to the Manchester Mayor, the so-called King of the North, precisely to nail down what his views are on trans people and women's rights. But he was not giving me any time of day. He unloaded an almighty tirade of fury and refused to answer any of my questions. Indeed, told me off for calling him mate.
Starting point is 00:57:40 As Chris Rose put it, Annie Burnham's bad temper surfaced twice this morning. When Farage made the spontaneous decision to pop into a local cafe for refreshment where Andy was present, he left in rage. He also refused to answer questions about his position on the EU with the Expresses Aaron Newbrose. But things are even worse for the other person who believes that they could end up Prime Minister and succeed slippery Stama. Red Rainer, the tax evader, now dragged directly into a Labour election fraud probe. With Rob Barrowcliff, revealing arrests now made, combined with electoral fraud and family voting witnessed and reported firsthand in the same ward,
Starting point is 00:58:25 the only ward in Thameside that reform didn't win. I think we're building a picture here. To which Matt Goodwin replied when Nigel Farage and I pointed to electoral fraud and Gorton and Denton, everyone from Greater Manchester Police to the Greens said it wasn't true. Now they're making arrests. And I just want to remind everyone of how Red Rainer operates in her constituency in order to appease the alarmists. This was before the last election.
Starting point is 00:58:53 My voters were very upset with the Labour Party. I was with you and you saw me over the line. You supported me in seats that are similar to mine. People lost their seat. You were there for me and I don't believe I could have done that without you. Now, I know that people are angry about what's happening in the Middle East. And I said live on TV and I say to this day, If me designing as an MP now would bring a ceasefire, I would do it.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I would do it. If I could affect change, the only thing I've done, and Waj knows this, I've got three British doctors out last week from Rapper. No women in that room, Ms Rainer. And it's actually her own kitchen, which has now seen her embroiled in this election fraud row. it is an astonishing story. Here's the reporting from the Daily Telegraph. Four men and a woman. All aged between 23 and 47 were arrested on Thursday morning on suspicion of conspiracy to defraud,
Starting point is 01:00:04 Greater Manchester Police said. It follows claims that fake independent candidates were entered on the ballot for Tamside Borough Council in the heart of Ms Rainer's constituency of Ashton underlined to split votes for opposition parties. The alleged plot was reportedly carried out by people associated with the Tamside Labor Group with one discussion said to have taken place in Ms Rainer's kitchen. Labor candidate Atta Yul-Rizul, the former vice chairman of the Ashton-underline Labor branch, was elected after beating the second place candidate Ahmed Mehmed, an independent by 177 votes. The two alleged fake candidates received 291 votes between them. St. Peter's Ward was the only one in Hameside to return a Labour councillor on May the 7th, with the remaining 18 being won by
Starting point is 01:00:53 Reform UK, resulting in no single party having overall control of the council. The Telegraph understands that the former Deputy Prime Minister says the developments have nothing to do with her, and that any suggestion she has been involved in, or aware of, any alleged wrongdoing, is baseless. But the arrest come at a critical time for the Labour Party in Manchester, it is less than four weeks before a crucial by election in Makerfield, in which Andy Burnham, the mayor of Greater Manchester, will seek to become the MP and then challenge Sir Khaer-Sama for the party leadership. An investigation by the Manchester Mill website reported claims that the fake independence were put forward by people associated with Tamside Labor Group.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Philip Watson Marks, the former vice chairman of the Ashton, underlying community Labour Party alleged that he was approached twice about the fake independent tactic with one of those approaches taking place in Ms. Rainer's Kitchen. I mean, Conor Thominson, this. This is extraordinary. And it really does feel, Connor, like the two bright hopes for Labour, and apparently this country, Burnham and Rainer, are tainted in the most despicable manner. They're in on the Islamist invasion, they're in on attempting to subvert British democracy when it comes to Brexit, and they're not really having to face any scrutiny.
Starting point is 01:02:14 whatsoever from the mainstream media on this. Quite, Dan. I mean, as I covered on YouTube in Substack recently, the national statutory grooming gang inquiries, one of which is meant to be taking place in Oldham in Greater Manchester, after previous safeguarding minister and delusional narcissist Jess Phillips attempted to refuse to assist the local council there when they said that they couldn't actually carry it out impartially because of years of labour corruption and mismanagement. Burnham has supported the new chair of that inquiry. Her name is Baroness Ang Longfield.
Starting point is 01:02:47 She was made a lay of a baroness last year. She was previously the Children's Commissioner between 2015 and 2021, when the original Rotherham reports and the Telford Inquiry was conducted. And not only did she basically do nothing while in office, but in the early days of her office, she appointed her friend,
Starting point is 01:03:03 a woman called Sue Berlavits, who had previously written a 2012 Children's Commissioner report on the grooming gangs and blamed white men for it despite a disproportionate person. capital over-representation of Pakistani perpetrators preying on white girls. She tried to appoint her as a consultant on £960 a day. That fee broke Whitehall rules, and despite that she tries to justify it,
Starting point is 01:03:23 after giving her $134,000 in public taxpayers' severance pay the day before. And she wanted her to write report on the grooming gangs. Yet again, another whitewash job. Burnham told the BBC, great appointment. Glad she's overseeing it. Really trust her. So Andy Burnham, who knows where all the bodies are buried in Greater Manchester, regarding the grooming gangs, which he, according to Maggie Oliver, has done basically nothing about, despite it being brought to his attention time and time again.
Starting point is 01:03:49 He supports the Labour governments, yet again, cover up inquiry using a Labour Baroness, who previously celebrated the fact that Ramadan was the cause for GCSEs being suspended, to the Muslim students can take their exams and more favourable conditions, and tried to appoint a woman who had previously fudge the numbers, and attempted to cover up the grooming gangs yet again to do another report. So all of this is shot through with moral corruption, if not actual, political corruption. As far as Angela Raina's case, I mean, the allegations are still pending, but the fact that you almost choked on reading out those names of local councillors, Dan,
Starting point is 01:04:24 shows you that if you import the Indian subcontinent, you import Pakistani clans, you get Indian subcontinental and Pakistani clan politics. And the fact that Angela Rainer, in what was formerly a safe labour area, felt the need, potentially, to do this sort of underhanded tactics. The fact that Burnham is running away in his Borat Dungarees from the press, running from any questions, lashing out at Christian Calgi, who's a good guy, by the way, for just happening to be in the same place as him
Starting point is 01:04:53 and ask him some innocuous questions for a man who might be the next Prime Minister. The fact that they're doing this shows they know they're in such a precarious position. They know they're hated by the public. They know this is the last chance to sit from the poisoned chalice of state power to continue their subversive Fabian socialist agenda because the public hate them. They want them gone. They want the Labour Party destroyed.
Starting point is 01:05:13 And so it doesn't matter whether it's Andy Burnham or Kirstarm or Alangelo Rana or God forbid after his dreadful resignation speech in Parliament where he's shaking like a leaf. Where's streeting? It doesn't matter. He's done. He's done. They're barely going to get anything done.
Starting point is 01:05:24 The bond market's going to torpedo them. The public's going to hate them and they're going to be voted out. Yeah, he's done. I think Rainer's now done too because the thing is, Connor, look, I actually don't even give a damn whether she knew this was taking place in her kitchen. She invited these people into her kitchen. She appeases Islamists all the goddamn time. She is a very dodgy woman. I think, Connor, we can all agree with that. You know, I even don't really believe that the tax stuff is all cleared up. So the thing is, I think she's done, I think you're totally
Starting point is 01:05:59 right, streeting's done as well. So it's really Burnham or Starmor now. And that's why the spy election is so critical. Quite. And I do like the meme of the giga-chad, Kier Stama, that's come out recently, because you and I both despise Stama for everything he's done to the country. You know, early releasing criminals, mass migration, calling everyone far right, dismissing the grooming gangs, ruining the economy. And the list goes on and on. But it is quite funny that he, in his single-minded Terminator-style dedication to rules and procedure is destroying the Labour Party. So after they all tell him to resign, they all go into
Starting point is 01:06:35 cabinet and he says, right, you can talk to me afterwards. He reads pre-prepared remarks, takes no questions, refuses to elaborate further and just leaves. Where streeting walks in, giving it the big I am, and within 20 minutes he's slung out on his backside. He fails his attempt to corral enough Labour politicians to make a leadership bid. He gives a dreadful resignation speech. Starrma stays in. He is, and the best part is as well. Andy Burnham's team apparently told him, please, for the love of God, don't come down and campaign with us. Starma tells the BBC, I am absolutely dedicated to supporting Andy Burnham's campaign and I'll be down there in Manchester. He knows what he's doing. He knows that he's
Starting point is 01:07:13 politically poisoned. And he's going down to campaign with Andy Burnham, basically torpedo his chances. You almost got to admire, like, the brazen level of arrogance that Stama's displaying. And please, for the love of God, Kier, stay in, better the devil you know, keep destroying your party, keep rendering all of your colleagues so unelectable that are reduced to a rump of about four seats in the next election. As Farrahad correctly joked, I have to credit him credit. He's the best recruiting sergeant for the right. Breaking today, crisis hit GB News is suffering a huge morale problem after every single staff member was sent an email which essentially suggested that massive cuts are on the way. My whistleblowers within the broadcast,
Starting point is 01:07:59 have now sent me this email. I will share it with you in just one moment, but it comes at a perilous time for the mainstream media across the world, with these upcoming cuts at GB News, now being compared to the same type of cuts that Ben Shapiro as having to make at the Daily Wire. Sure, you can argue that the Daily Wire and GB News are better than the British Bashing Corporation or MSNBC, now MS now, but actually we know that these organizations are corrupted by their ownership and can't be trusted in the same way that the independent media is. So despite the fact that GB News has now been heralded as a success across the mainstream media, indeed they need to save a huge amount of money. There are massive departures going on behind the scenes. And this email was sent to every
Starting point is 01:08:53 single member of the production team causing this absolute crisis behind. the scenes this week. Let me read out some of it to you. It came from the despised head of HR at the company and she wrote, Dear team, dear team, I'm about to sack you, but you know, we're a team. Further to our meeting today, thank you to those who attended. As announced, we regularly review our organisation's structure and make recommendations on one improving our efficiency, two, best use of technologies, automation and workflows, three, the design of our organization, and four, efficiencies in the workforce. Following the most recent review, it has been identified that the current workforce structure
Starting point is 01:09:40 could benefit from being reorganized in line with technical and workflow recommendations. So I spoke to one of my whistleblowers at GV News who says, that is the exact sort of language that's the people's channel. should not be using, okay? Because let me translate, GB News is now intending to get rid of many producers and journalists and writers and replace them with AI.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Bots. I've even spoken to some presenters behind the scenes who have revealed to me that their scripts, their monologues, their own so-called personal thoughts, are now written by AI. And unfortunately for me, to see that happening to the channel that I help to set up
Starting point is 01:10:33 is absolutely heartbreaking. Let me bring in Independent Media Say Sensation, Connor Tomlinson, the man behind Tomlinson talks on YouTube and subsects. So Conner, there's actually a lot in this story, okay, because I want to talk about the parallels to what's going on at the Daily Wire in just one moment. But first, let's start with GB News.
Starting point is 01:10:53 itself. I mean, this is a terrible email to send to staff members, many of whom you're about to sack. And the fact that the channel is effectively admitting that they are now going to use AI to replace journalists, I think is very, very depressing. It is an acknowledgement, I guess, of the fact that this channel is losing vast amounts of money. I mean, literally, Paul Marshall and the Lagarde Institute are having to pump in hundreds of millions of pounds with no sense that they're ever going to be making money. But at the same time, I'm sorry, if you're a journalist or if you're a presenter worth half your soul and you are reading out a script written by AI, if you are putting your name on a column written by AI, then I'm sorry, you should never be trusted again. Connett,
Starting point is 01:11:43 like, this is really disturbing stuff. And I think it is one of the reasons why people do want to trust authentic voices like you in the independent media where you know that you're not corrupted because you're just working for yourself and we know that you're not using AI to write your substack articles. I mean, I'm astonished by this. Yeah, I can make a promise, Dan, that I've never had AI write anything. I don't even script my own videos or like pull up a few links to give me reference points, but then I'll just sort of monologue and waffle and this is why they end up being an hour and people in my comments say, please make 10 minute versions. No, I'm here to talk to you. If I ever wrote anything using AI and put it out under my own name, I would be ashamed.
Starting point is 01:12:21 I also don't have any ghostwriters. And unfortunately, there are quite a few popular people running substacks that don't write their own stuff and use ghost writers, which is why I'm... Stop talking about Matt Goodwin like that. I'm not just referring to Matt Goodwin. Unfortunately, I think people should put things out under their own name. 100%. I'm the same, Connor. I do not use AI.
Starting point is 01:12:40 I do not use ghostwriters. If you're listening to something from me, if you're reading something from me, it was penned by me or it comes from. comes from my heart. Yeah, and I have also heard it's quite funny. I feel bad for the hosts that do have to read this stuff out because there's plenty of good hosts on GV News still. But some of the hosts
Starting point is 01:12:59 have been trying to get guests through and have been blocked at the pitch meetings by executives or producers carrying out the orders of executives. And there was one host as well who was going to reference a tweet of mine because I've done some analysis in one of his monologues and he was told to basically read
Starting point is 01:13:15 verbatim from my tweet but not credited to me because I am, quote, a legal liability. I would just suggest the GV News that if you were holding yourself to the profit incentive, then keeping your overhead costs lower and actually having people on the panel and talking about stories that people want to hear about
Starting point is 01:13:31 would be effective. Because, you know, my overhead costs are very, very low. I do everything myself, except I have someone else do my thumbnails because I'm, you know, technically illiterate when it comes to Photoshop. And I do all my own research. I do all my own editing,
Starting point is 01:13:42 which is why I don't have that high on output, especially not in short content. But because my overhead costs are low, I can still, for the time being, pay my mortgage until, you know, Rachel Reeves makes things worse. All help is appreciated from people. Nevertheless, what Gb News has done here and what Daily Wire have done. And like him or loathe him, Nick Fuentes pointed this out very well, as an enemy of Ben Shapiro back in the day. What GB News and Daily Wire exist to do, Dan, is not to turn a profit, as you pointed out. What they exist to do is to shape public opinion.
Starting point is 01:14:08 And because they have large financial backers, because they have an almost limitless spigot of investment, it means they can say things which don't actually resonate with a vast majority of the public, but because they get comfortable deals with Facebook and YouTube, because they don't get banned for certain things that they say, because there's always going to be a guaranteed income from some of their presenters, and they use that income to pressure the presenters into talking the approved line, they shape public opinion on what is called the right. They're basically gatekeeping opinion by the people they have on,
Starting point is 01:14:41 the people that they don't have on, the topics they do talk about, and the topics they don't talk about. In America, the Daily Wire exists, despite, you know, the fact that Michael Knowles is an absolute gentleman, Matt Walsh makes some good content, the Daily Wire exists to essentially keep the Republican Party in support of Israel. This is Ben Shapiro's personal mission, right? Fine, that's out in the open. What G.B. News exists to do is to keep the British right, broadly, behind reform and push for a conservative reform pact, because the people that are investing in the channel, many of the hosts, are all reliant on the patronage network that reform might well dull out.
Starting point is 01:15:15 And so it means that anyone who is critical of reform and isn't your average off-com-appointed leftist who can be beaten up like a pinata isn't allowed on the platform anymore. And so what you have to understand is even though they are, you know, sinking in terms of finances, even though they are requiring a bailout from Paul Marshall and whoever else, even though they are unserimoniously replacing journalists and producers with Chat GPT, all of this is to stay in the game
Starting point is 01:15:42 of ensuring there are another hand on the Mingva's shepherding reform into Downing Street. And so you have to understand the profit incentive doesn't matter. They're just there to shape your opinion. Yeah, and the thing is, Connor, I just wish that we saw honesty. That's always been my issue.
Starting point is 01:15:59 And actually, Ben Shapiro is very honest, actually, about what the Daily Wire's goals are. I wouldn't say that, unfortunately. Well, what I'm referring to is the fact that he says very clearly, I mean, I've read his statements, for example, over the current financial troubles and the fact that they have cut 60% of staff. And he says very clearly that the Daily Wire exists as a pro-Israel organization. Right.
Starting point is 01:16:28 And that is one of the main missions of the company, just like, for example, being anti-abortion. just hear me out before you coming because I'm just going to make a comparison to GB News. I would actually have much more respect for GB News if they admitted that they were an organization which is aiming to get Nigel Farage elected as Prime Minister and that as a result, that's the reason why they will not platform Rupert Lowe, for example. But they don't, Connor. So what they do is they come up with every other type of excuse.
Starting point is 01:17:03 I don't know if you've seen this, but now we're in. buy-election phase. So of course we could not interview Rupert Lowe because there's a by-election going on. Oh, but we can interview Zia Yusuf and Nigel Farage multiple times. So I would rather they were honest in what the overall goal of the company was. And by the way, that goal has changed because it wasn't the goal when I started at the company to get Nigel Farage elected as prime minister. It genuinely wasn't. It has changed. Yeah, no, I agree 100%, Dan. You're correct. I was merely making a carriage judgment on Shapiro, who has made a series of enemies over his time in conservative politics, not just referring to Fuentes, who he failed to end the career of, and ultimately inadvertently made him his arch enemy. But, you know, he's tried to sabotage business deals behind the scenes and bad mouth people, and it's just not very pleasant. I think we should all try and rise above that. But you are correct in the... that I would appreciate if Gb News took the Daily Wire approach where you knew what their
Starting point is 01:18:09 editorial line was. You just instead have to look at the investors and the hosts and the guests and feel for the contours of what their intentions are. I would much rather, and I'm sure before may actually do this if they were in government, abolish offcom and just ensure that all broadcasters can wear their biases on their sleeve and then the audience can decide who to watch and what not to watch. Yeah, but they haven't actually come out and said that because it's a weakness, isn't it? It's another weakness of Reform UK and GB News that they genuinely believe, Connor, that they can work within the system, which is just so naive.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Yeah, I would absolutely like to hear a lot more radicalism out of them. Again, though, based on character judgments, I don't think we're going to get that. I think, Dan, it's fair to say that we are supportive of Rupert's efforts, but also in the purely electoral reality, scenario that reform is on track to win the government. We would rather discourage reform doing things that are harmful to the country and themselves and encourage them when they're doing things that are right. Our problem is not that we don't want to play a part in encouraging and discouraging that alongside just reporting the truth, but it's if you look at reforms lineup at senior leadership, they're people who don't want to seem to take risks. I mean, if you saw Danny Kruger's disastrous
Starting point is 01:19:28 interview with New Culture Forum a few weeks ago, he was sitting there saying, oh, I'm not against Islam, I'm really in favour of people having a religion, regardless of what religion it was. Afghans can learn to be English if they just revere Queen Victoria and Alfred the Great. All of this sort of stuff is reheated 2010s Cameron Liberalism, which was itself the heirs to Blair. It's how we got into this mess. And because they're afraid of being called all these names by ICV and the BBC, because GGB News are afraid, they're knuckles wrapped by Offcom, they won't touch necessary topics and they won't speak the truth. And so they're constantly caught in a position of compromise.
Starting point is 01:20:06 And if compromise is your way of life before you get into government, it's likely you're going to fuel the pressure and compromise when you're in government. So I am worried they're not going to do things as drastic, as radical as the country requires in order to be fixed. All we can do, I suppose, is keep encouraging them to do it in the event they do form the next government. 100%. And look, I just believe people should be honest. And that's why I don't think the off-communists should exist. But I hate seeing the constant excuses from G.B. News. For example, with me, I'm very honest about who I vote for because I think it's important that the audience know where I stand.
Starting point is 01:20:43 But I'm not telling you who to vote for. I'll be honest about where I vote. And I'll also be honest about the fact that I'm not part of any particular political party. But where I respect people is when they clearly are and they're honest about this. So I actually have no problem with Nigel Farage and Dajal. Aaron Grimes and Lee Anderson operating as operatives for the Reform UK as part of GB News. They're honest about it. Or Jacob Rees-Mogg with the Conservative Party.
Starting point is 01:21:13 He's honest about it. What I have a real problem with are the people like Alex Armstrong and Patrick Christie's and who was the other one that I was thinking about who does this name. Oh, Miriam Cates, Miriam Cates, who, don't get me wrong, have real positive things. Martin Daubney, too, real positive things about them. But they are effectively behind the scenes working with Reform UK while going on air to try and pretend to be an independent journalist. You can't completely blame them for it, Connor, because I do understand that's what the system forces them into. But it is wrong. I don't want to get Miriam in trouble by disclosing conversations,
Starting point is 01:22:03 but I don't think she's working behind the scenes on reform UK. Well, Dame Andrea Jenkins said on air that she was having discussions with Danny Kruger about defecting to the party. So that's what I'm referring to. She has denied it, but she was a very close ally with Danny Krueber, wasn't she? I don't think she's too keen about the triple lock and pensions. I think she's written about that publicly. Yes, no, she has.
Starting point is 01:22:27 That's fallen out since. I think it's fair to say there's no, but there's no love loss between her and Zia Yusuf. And weirdly, that would be one thing that I actually side with Miriam Kays on. But look, just to say, Connor,
Starting point is 01:22:39 I'm not celebrating the fact that a whole load of really good producers and people behind the scenes at GB News are going to lose their job. I'm not celebrating that, but I'm just trying to explain, I guess, a little bit about why this might be happening. And I think GV News has,
Starting point is 01:22:54 you know, even though the mainstream media now celebrated, It has a very, very difficult path ahead. But thank you so much. And of course, we encourage everyone to celebrate the independent media, Conner, which means subscribing to Tomlinson talks on YouTube and Substack where Connor promises that you're not getting an AI bot writing his very, very, very long videos. Connor, thank you so much for being here today.
Starting point is 01:23:19 We'll speak very soon. And congratulations, Conner. In fact, I think we've got the post. We obviously announced it on air the other day. but congratulations because you are expecting twins here was the post oh my god connor i couldn't believe it because you'd obviously told me but you didn't even know is that right until the ultrasound that there were actually two little babies there
Starting point is 01:23:42 i didn't fake you out dan i said i couldn't come on the show the previous week because we were going for a baby scan and then what ended up happening was we had a scare we thought you know we feared for the worst we spent 24 hours in a and e It was an absolute nightmare as like waiting around at the Mozzie canteener. And eventually after we thought we'd lost the baby, we had a scan and a baby showed up. And we were really jubilant. And so we thought, oh, we don't need to do our regularly scheduled scan at 12 weeks next week. But my wife thought, oh, for peace of mind, we'll go along anyway.
Starting point is 01:24:11 We showed up all on time. And the midwife said they did confirm twins, right? So somehow the previous hospital missed an entire baby. So that was quite the surprise. I'm going to be having a lot of sleepless nights, but I'm sure it will all be worth it. Oh my God, such good news. Such good news to end the show. Conor Thominson, thank you so much. And congratulations to your lovely wife as well. By the way, please pass on that to her from all of us and outspoken. Now, a reminder of our union jackasses from across the week going head to head to be named the worst Britain in the world this week.
Starting point is 01:24:44 On Monday, it was Sidy Khan, on Tuesday, Piers Morgan, on Wednesday, Kirstama, on Thursday, Judge Neil Fluitt, Casey. I want to get to your feedback on this. Michael the Nazarene says, I picked Pears Morgan for attacking the UTK event and Tommy just because he has a personal deep vendetta against Tommy and also because of the based and bougie attack trying to make her look bad because she attends the UTK events. He even went as far as having to pop at Ricky Dolan,
Starting point is 01:25:09 and all he did was sing a few songs. Pathetic Pears has a deep personal hatred of Tommy from their very first clash on Good Morning Britain over the Quran in Islam, and Pears has carried a chip on his shoulder for Tommy ever since then. Azela Pays says Pears defends Islam. arm almost harder than Sadiq Khan. And Fraser Conlin says, as far as the judge goes, I can't help but feel there's some political shithousery going on. We have that Muppet, Lammy, talking about ending jury trials to clear their backlog and to da-da, here we are with an open and shut case,
Starting point is 01:25:37 in my honest opinion, all on CCTV and yet two juries of the two thugs fail to reach a verdict. Billy 4106 says since Stama is toast, I've picked Khan because he's still going to carry on damaging my London for God knows how long. And Diamond Mind 212 says all of them, of course, which shows the depths to which public figures have plunged, not a decent, honorable man in sight. Just think millions of people voted for Khan and Stama, which should scare the life out of any sane person. And from Mick Taylor, 9332, it's always Kare Stama, even when he's not on the list. He'll always be the worst of the worst in this country. He's a traitor. And he's giving our country. country away, what many of our granddad's fought for, and many of them not coming back alive.
Starting point is 01:26:22 So he'll always be the worst. He's sick and completely deranged. Okay, 67,000 votes from you. In fourth position, with 9% of the vote, Judge Neal Flew at Casey. In third position with 10% of the vote, Pears Morgan, the runner-up with 17% of the vote, Sadiq Khan, but the worst Britain in the world this week, Slippery Starmor, with 64% of the vote. Now, I want to tell you about a very special show. We have this bank holiday Monday, the most extraordinary interview with the former Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen blowing the lid on the British Deep State. Here's a preview. We possibly have the most corrupt country in the world in the UK. And some people will be shocked by that statement. Really? Honestly. Any apple that wishes to rise to the top has to be willing to rot.
Starting point is 01:27:11 And if you're not willing to rot, you can't go to the top. You've got the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the 13 original banking families. They have the ability to buy our politicians. What happened with the Boris Wave? Who was forcing him to do that? Why did he give in to those forces? Boris has to say masters that all our other prime ministers have. And he gave into there?
Starting point is 01:27:33 He has no choice. Do you think Boris Johnson nearly died during COVID? It was all pantomime. For what purpose? To scare people into the lockdown measures and the vaccines that were coming. Otherwise, he would have been removed as Prime Minister. Absolutely. John Smith was the leader of the Labour Party.
Starting point is 01:27:48 He was well-liked and popular and probably going to win an election. Didn't become Prime Minister, did he? Do you think he was killed? Nigel Farage, who has always been viewed as someone who was fighting this establishment, you allege that he is now compromised too? Yes, he had some very near-miss incidents with an aeroplane and his car. You don't believe that they were genuine events? I've never had the wheels come off my car going at the roadway.
Starting point is 01:28:15 You think someone has compromising material on Nigel? They wouldn't let him get to the position of leading any party unless, unless they had that on him. It's wide. Rupert Lowe is getting hammered on all fronts. You think Restore Britain is the last hope. If we have any elections, Dan... Do you worry that they might try and kill you? Now we're moving over to Substack now as the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow continues.
Starting point is 01:28:41 P. Diner is standing by. We're going to get there very shortly over at www.org.org. But remember our special bank holiday edition of the show 5pm UK time Monday, midday Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hit subscribe right now on YouTube, turn on the notification bell so you're alerted. And most importantly, I promise to keep fighting for you.

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