Dan Wootton Outspoken - RUPERT LOWE HITS BACK AT SICK FARAGE ATTACK OVER MASS DEPORTATIONS AS RESTORE BRITAIN SURGES

Episode Date: February 18, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Restore Britain leader Rupert Lowe is standing by for his first live TV interview since launching Restore Britain as a national party in the most viral political video of the past ...decade which has captivated the MAGA right. It’s sent Reform UK’s Nigel Farage into a meltdown, finally admitting in a fit of pique that he axed Rupert from the party over his position on mass deportations. Rupert will respond live on Outspoken. And the UK right appears to be re-shaping around Restore Britain with UKIP leader Nick Tenconi making a merger offer. He’ll be here too. PLUS: Paloma Faith is exposed as a gender traitor. The Superstar Panel will weigh in on that: activist Kellie-Jay Keen, Restore Britain campaigner and YouTube star Montgomery Toms, and Advance UK national political director Richard Thomson. AND: King Charles’s ultimate nightmare seems to be coming true with ex-Prince Andrew now being probed by seven police forces, including over sex trafficking allegations. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Prince William speaks out in an emotional and personal interview amidst the growing royal crisis. We’ll have all the latest with royal YouTube sensation According2Taz. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live To watch the Uncancelled After Show for exclusive extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 429. And breaking right now, Restore Britain leader Rupert Lowe, standing by for his first live interview since launching Restore Britain as a national party in the most viral political video of the past decade, which has captivated the Maga right and sent Reform UK's Nigel Farage into a meltdown. and finally admitting in a fit of peak that he axed Rupert from the party over his position on mass deportations. On a farm, you don't think in election cycles or headlines or polling. You think in seasons. You think in generations. In what you leave behind to those who come after you. And that's why, here on the farm, I am now launching Restore Britain as a national political party.
Starting point is 00:00:56 The single most viral political ad in the last 10 years is right here on your screen right now. A kindly old gentlemanly British man wandering about his farm, engaging in farm duties, explaining that now is the time for British people to save their once great kingdom. You know, when he stood up and said that we've got to consider the mass deportation of entire communities, including those born in the United Kingdom, that just moves way beyond a point of reasonableness, of decency, of morality. And that was the moment at which, you know, I realised
Starting point is 00:01:38 we just had to get rid of him and get rid of it as quickly as we could. Rupert Lowe will be here in just one minute to respond to a disgusting news slur from Reform UK's Layla Cunningham on GB News. She has actually called Restore Britain Neo-Nazi. So will Rupert be suing? we will find out. We'll also discuss his bold announcement that he will campaign to reintroduce
Starting point is 00:02:01 the death penalty for criminals like the Southport terrorist Axel Ruder Cabana. And the UK right appears to be reshaping around Restore Britain with UKIP leader Nick Tenconi making a merger offer. He'll be here later too. Also coming up on the show today, King Charles's ultimate nightmare seems to be coming true, with ex-Prince Andrew now being probed by seven police forces, including over those sex trafficking allegations we will have the latest. And Paloma Faith, exposed as a gender traitor, the superstar panel will weigh in on that today, activist Kelly J Keen, Restore Britain Campaigner and YouTube star Montgomery Tombs, and Advanced UK, National Political Director Richard Thompson.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Then in the Royal Uncanceled After Show over on Substact, Prince William speaks out in an emotional and personal interview amidst the growing royal crisis. We'll have all the latest with Royal YouTube Sensation according to Taz. And of course you can vote right now for today's Union Jackass. Here are your nominees put forward by today's superstar panel. Sadiq Khan nominated by Kelly J Keen for the Ramadan lights and his hatred of Londoners. Hannah Spencer, nominated by Richard Thompson for running on a Gaza ticket using Arabic within their campaigning materials. This is the United Kingdom. Our politics should be being promoted in English and about issues here in the UK.
Starting point is 00:03:28 She should focus more on Gorten and Denton and less on Gaza and Alex Phillips, nominated by Montgomery, Tom's, for being intellectually dishonest regarding Restore Britain. If you don't know what he's talking about, I'll show you the clips shortly. But now, let's go. Rupert Lowe, leader of Restore Britain, now a national political. party. So great to have you. And Rupert, I hear you have some big news in terms of your membership numbers. Well, we like giving you exclusives, Dan. Yes, our membership went through 70,000 earlier today. So it's been fantastic. And I can only thank those people who've joined up. I honestly think if we're going to change things, we've got to appeal to everybody now to take part.
Starting point is 00:04:22 You can't rely on a few people to change this. This is a huge mess. And I'm hoping that everybody in the country who cares about the way in which the country has gone will help us to do the heavy lifting. And as I say, challenge petty authority, challenge all these petty rules, regulations and all these petty councillors who are refusing elections. Let's legally get in their faces and tell them that they serve the people not the other way around and start to change the dynamic for the country. That's the only way we're going to solve this now. What's very disappointing though, Rupert, is that it feels like some of the right of British politics, specifically Reform UK, are actually taking on the tactics of the hard left when it
Starting point is 00:05:12 comes to restore Britain. And the great thing about having you here is you can obviously respond to some of this directly. But the one that has really caused a lot of of anger today. A lot of anger today. Is Leila Cunningham. She is the mayoral candidate for Reform UK. She went on G.B. News last night and actually suggested that Restore Britain and specifically one of your brilliant staff members, Charlie Downed, was neo-Nazi.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Watch this. I mean, they're talking about, if you're not white and Christian in this country, you're not British, right? They're going back to some kind of like neo-Nazi. Nazi Aryan race. I mean, I've heard their spokesperson on talk TV and on TV saying, if you are not white and Christian, then you're not deemed to be British. And you know, that flies in the face of wanting integration and assimilation because no matter how much you integrate or assimilate, according to them, you will never be British. Well, look, I mean, they're not
Starting point is 00:06:09 here to defend themselves right now, but the bottom line is there might be people in their party who say one thing who don't, but that might not be the party line. So Rupert, before we talk more generally, can we deal with that specifically? Is it true that you and L. considering legal action? First of all, Dan, let's just say that that is total rubbish. And at the end of the day, our party is just a group of people who care about Britain and put the British people at the top of the agenda. I think what Layla Cunningham says is nonsense.
Starting point is 00:06:45 It's trouble making. I mean, to call us, I think she said neo-Nazis, and she mentioned the word Aryan, I think most people can see that that reform are incredibly rattled. They are very worried. We've got a queue of councillors around the block now who want to come and join, restore Britain. I think a lot of their branches have been treated very badly. And I think they're genuinely worried, and I suspect that their position in the polls is going to go into quite steep reverse from here. So if you listen to the comments Nigel made yesterday, again, as you know,
Starting point is 00:07:25 because you were extremely supportive when reform tried to send me to prison last February March by making two palpably false witness statements, one from Lee Anderson, one from Zia Yusuf, accusing me, which they did, I think, to several journalists, yourself included, accusing me of having early on set dementia. Correct. And also accusing me of bullying in my office. Well, none of those things are true. I mean, the only thing I didn't like in the video is to be called a sort of an elderly gentleman.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I like to think of myself as a sort of a very young elderly gentleman rather than an elderly elderly gentleman. But look, so I've run multiple businesses. I've never had any accusations of any form of bullying or any form of early onset dementia. and I certainly didn't threaten Zia Yusuf or Le Anderson, although I can't get a hold of a copy of those palpably false and arguably illegal witness statements. But look, I don't propose, we may or may not take legal action on what Nigel said yesterday
Starting point is 00:08:35 because he completely contradicted the reasons they said they got rid of me for last year when he spoke yesterday. He also said I failed WHR. I didn't. When I left WHR and the share price was £1.40 because I sold my shares at that. When I, the other day I heard it had basically been taken over of three peer share. That was, so I left in 2015 and that was 10 years later.
Starting point is 00:09:02 So that was rubbish. And with regard to Southampton Football Club, when I left in 2006, it had five million pounds in the bank because I had to warrant that. and I went back for a year to rescue it and the people who took over from me in 2006 had a run at going up, wasted all the money that we'd saved, sold some players that we created through the academy and in the end failed to go up in the playoffs and unfortunately they left the club in a very poor financial state
Starting point is 00:09:34 which I went in to try and resolve because I cared about the stadium that I'd built and I cared about the fans even though they didn't treat me particularly well. I by then had quite an affection for Southampton Football Club. So look, Nigel also said I sued him. I've never sued him. I did threaten to sue him in 2019 when Richard Tice failed to tell him that I was standing down in Dudley North, which was a Labour seat by 23 votes after, two days after he'd stood down in every Tory seat. And the reason I stood down was I didn't want to split the vote and let in a momentum Labor candidate.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And in the end, I let in Marco Longer, he was a Tory. So look, I mean, Nigel's getting worried. He's throwing lots of stuff at me. I'm not proposing to say any more about reform. I'm really not interested in them. Yeah. I think the most shocking... If we decide to take legal action against Nigel Lee and Zia,
Starting point is 00:10:33 that's what we might do, but we haven't made a decision yet. Because we do want, Dan, to concentrate on setting up the structures for Restore Britain now. I've concluded that we need to stand a Restore Britain candidate in every seat to give the British people a chance to vote for a candidate. From outside the current British establishment, I think the establishment, the press, if you notice, the press have cut me out other than good people. like yourself have cut me out completely. I mean, G.B. News, who claimed to be an impartial, literally have gone full on Nigel. The BBC, I hardly hear a peep out of them these days. I don't think they covered our rape gang inquiry at all. And I saw Jeremy Hivine on his phone in when somebody asked him about me, he couldn't wait to get them off. So look, I've actually got that.
Starting point is 00:11:29 We've actually got that, Rupert. Let's take a look at it because I think it was a really interesting moment. G.B. News has been trying to say, oh, no one knows who Rupert Lowe is, and then a caller calls up Jeremy Vine. And the moment you're raised, Jeremy Vine cannot get the dude off the phone quick enough. This is what happened. I know. He was furious with Nigel Fras, especially after what he did to Rupert Lowe. Now, the way he treated Rupert Lowe, it was just awful. You made up a bunch of lies, him and Zeeh used to trying to smear his name.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Kind of a bit of a local... They try to get him arrested as well. But does that matter in the scheme of things? It's just a kind of a local argument inside reform. It goes to show a lot about Farage. He's willing to, like, betray one of his MPs to try and get him arrested and making up a bunch of lives. What's he going to do to the country?
Starting point is 00:12:22 Okay. Thank you, Ted. Thank you so much. Thanks for all your cause on this. It was like, shut up! Shut up. This isn't the narrative we want. I thought it was a really, really illuminating moment.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Alex, Lou? He couldn't wait. He couldn't wait to change the subject, really. So, look, I, I don't think we want to worry too much about these petty little polls and stuff. Ultimately, what we've got to do is provide an alternative for the British people. I don't, I don't rule out, I mean, I've got to know, and the movement's worked very well. I set up a movement for a reason I wanted to unite. I think it has united. The Tories, very kindly put me on the Public Accounts Committee. There are some extremely good young Tories who argue being held back by by Tories who don't actually have a Tory basis to their political view, who are senior to them in the rankings. And Parliament is a very sort of hierarchical institution.
Starting point is 00:13:19 If you've been there, the longer you've been there, the more like you are to be picked by the speaker. It's a bit like being at a public school. But there are some very good young Tories who could make a contribution, you know, ones who've got no blood on their hands. they've come into Parliament in the last election like me. And I think many of them share the objectives that we all have, but they're currently Tories. So I've got to look for people who have skills, who've contributed to their local communities, who basically put Britain at the top of the agenda.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And what we've got to do is try and take control of Parliament, which ultimately controls, from there you control everything. And what we've got to do then is to liberate the British people, get rid of a lot of the ridiculous legislation that Blair, Brown, Campbell and Mandelson passed, such as the Equalities Act, the Human Rights Act. I mean, the list is almost endless. Deregulate, basically cut the size of the state, allow people to keep more of what they make, encourage young people into work, cut welfare, punish indelior. and basically reward hard work and an enterprise. And I think if we do that, we've got the best people in the world and I've got every faith that they will deliver.
Starting point is 00:14:41 But I can't, as I said, in that video, I don't promise them an easy ride. I think after years of being slowly brought to the boil like a frog, if they don't jump out of the tub now and start to fight for their country, then ultimately they will be boiled and it'll be too late. And I think, on 29, that's going to be the case from what I can see. Absolutely. On the public accounts committee, Dan, I can't tell you how much waste I see the public sector
Starting point is 00:15:15 throwing around absolutely everywhere. Too many staff, too many duff contracts, absolutely no respect for taxpayers' money, huge pensions, indolence everywhere. absolute lack of any form of customer focus. I mean, look, I can't tell you how bad it is. And then the British people are taxed into oblivion to pay for it. So as I think I said in that video, the British state has definitively now become the enemy of the people.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And I believe that. Yeah, I do too. I do too. Rupert, one of the real issues is, of course, your policy on mass deportation. and this is where all of the attacks are coming from. And there's a couple of things that I think it's really important for us to discuss. First, Farage's comments yesterday were absolutely shocking. Now, you're right, the mainstream media hasn't covered them at all.
Starting point is 00:16:10 But look at what Elon Musk said. When he found out about this, one word, wow. And that's because what Farage admitted yesterday was that all of this talk of, oh, being reported to the police over her two words. It was all bullshit. It was all a total lie. He admitted he wanted you out of the party because you were advocating for mass deportations. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Well, let's clarify that, Dan. It's very important. So, of course, Nigel tried to edit my speech. When I gave a speech in Northwest Essex in Chemis constituency at the end of January, I arrived and Nigel, through his young lad, who was 24, tried to edit my speech. and he tried to take out the word mass when I was talking about mass deportations. I didn't say of who. I said largely of illegal migrants
Starting point is 00:17:03 and those people living here illegally. That's the place to start. But he wanted the word mass taken out. The thing I think that really upset him was that I said that the families of the Pakistani Muslim rapists and they are largely Pakistani Muslim rapists, there are some Afghanistanis,
Starting point is 00:17:22 some Arabis, some Bangladeshis, But I said that the families of those people perpetrating rape on white working class vulnerable underage English girls, those families who are foreign nationals should be deported, and those families who are dual nationals should have their British citizenship revoked, and they should be deported. I've never said that whole communities of people with British passports should be deported. That's just Nigel indulging in his. and trying to stir up all sorts of trouble. So I've never, ever said that.
Starting point is 00:18:00 But what I have said is that, you know, and as you now know, we've done our rape gang inquiry. The report is now being drafted. And I can tell you, it's going to contain some absolutely vile of stories, which I found over two weeks incredibly harrowing. I really didn't enjoy the two weeks of the hearings. But what I can tell you is, I just can't see how anybody in this country can vote Labor, or indeed any party which has taken no action over what is a pervasive evil across the country,
Starting point is 00:18:40 and anyone who's played a part in enabling the mass rape of Britain, as I call it, and particularly vulnerable white working class underage girls who were firstly groomed and then raped. And I think trafficked all over the country, it's probably in the end linked to county lines, drugs. It's linked, I think, probably to organise crime. And maybe the sort of multicultural experiment, which the country embarked on, those people who are responsible for it, realize that it's going to be a difficult job to actually solve this problem. But that doesn't mean to say we don't have to start somewhere. and I'm not in any way being racist. I'm making a judgment, Dan, on good versus bad, evil versus good.
Starting point is 00:19:30 This was pure evil. And it doesn't matter what race you are. It doesn't matter, you know, where you're from. If you perpetrate this kind of evil on the most vulnerable people in society, as far as I'm concerned, you need to be heavily punished for it. And it breaks my heart to see judges, handing out pathetically short sentences for, you know, rape. I think we saw a rape of a mother and daughter the other day
Starting point is 00:19:58 and so I've got 18 months. I'm sorry, that's just not right. So, and then you get Lucy Connolly going to prison for 30 months or whatever she went to prison for. Totally. The priorities are in state. No, we've gone off the rails. We've gone definitively bonkers, Dan.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Now the question is, of course, do you include reform in that category? And I just want to bring you a post. that Elon Musk has just made since we came on air. He has responded to Charlie Downs, who was, of course, the man who was being commented on by Layla Cunningham in that interview. And I want to show you what Elon Musk has said. It's his strongest attack on Reform UK yet. And I want to know if you agree.
Starting point is 00:20:41 He says, they already know that. Best to go on the offensive against them, referring to Reform UK, as they are English extinctionists who want white eradication. That means they are the racists, they are the Nazis. Do you agree? Well, I don't really want to get involved and stoop to the levels that Nigel and Leila Cunningham are stooping to, Dan. I have no objection to targeted immigration
Starting point is 00:21:13 where it benefits the British people. What I have objection to is when people are brought into this country and treated better than people who've contributed to our way of life, our country, our culture, they've paid their taxes, they've lived legally. And I think the problem we've got is it's actually easier now to police those who are happy to be policed, which is the law-abiding high-trust sort of indigenous people, rather than the people who've come in here, who it's much more difficult to police, particularly if you're going to adopt a sort of woke approach to policing. And I have this very clear view that, you know, I call it Sadiq Khan's war zone, I was walking home the other day and some poor girl had just been burgled. She was in tears.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I mean, burglary in London has gone through the roof down. You know, it is now, it's almost a third world city. And that breaks my heart. You know, when I used to live in London when I was young, it was safe, it was thriving, everybody wanted to be in London. I mean, now, honestly, it's absolutely dead in the evenings. And I'm just waiting for the... the economic collapse that must come soon with these high taxes,
Starting point is 00:22:34 with the erosion of this high trust society that used to serve us all so well, we are heading for a major reckoning. And I think everybody's got to prepare themselves for this. And we've all got to now stand up and be counted. But I think people have had it too good, and I blame a lot of the people I've been brought up with, you know, who have been respected throughout the world, largely for what the people who fought in both wars achieved,
Starting point is 00:23:03 and they have enjoyed the dividend from that, but then not prepared to actually stir themselves and fight for their country. So as Margaret Thatcher said, democracy is very fragile, and if you don't fight for it, you lose it. And I think that's what's happening. And I watch every day with horror as we get more and more statism,
Starting point is 00:23:28 more and more intervention in people's lives, more and more censorship. And that's not the Britain I want to live in, Dan. And we've got to fight that. We've got to stop it. But going back to my point, the rape gang hearing, which was, as you know, the culmination of largely nine months' work by my fantastic team led by Sammy Woodhouse, who's just a superstar and her whole team.
Starting point is 00:23:52 And we literally, that was the pinnacle of the work that's gone into getting the witness bundles done and everything else. And it's a fascinating cross-section of people who appeared at our hearings. How can anyone vote Labour when they almost unanimously, I think there was one who didn't, but almost unanimously voted against a statutory inquiry into this national evil, which has been going on for 25 years. How can you vote for Labour? Well, indeed. The Tories were in power. The Tories were in power. They had a chance to put it right. They didn't. So look, I...
Starting point is 00:24:32 But of course, the divide on the right rupert is that Reform UK seems to be going soft on this too. And when it comes to your comments in terms of mass deportations, including anyone involved in the rape gangs, Matt Goodwin, who is running as the by-election candidate for Reform UK in Gorton and Denton also criticise you. And I wanted to give you the opportunity to respond. This is what he told Trigonometry. Watch this. The British people think of themselves as very tolerant, very welcoming. They're not up for like, let's just round up.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Everybody who knew anything about the reg gangs, let's just round them up and put them in another. Now, you responded to him saying that you were full of turquoise shit. Restore Britain's position is clear. Illegals gone. Legals who refuse to work. Can't speak English. Claim benefits. Live in social housing.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Commit crime. Hate our way of life. Gone. Reforms deportation. Policy is piss weak. own it, but how shocking is it for you to see your former party turn on you over these issues? Well, look, they turned on me and tried, as you said, to put me in prison, which I had Nigel just said to me, you're not for me, go and become an independent on the back benches.
Starting point is 00:25:46 And as Iu Kahn said, watch the rubbish building up in front of you as the reform benches grow, which I thought was actually very good from him. But that would have been fine And that wouldn't have been an issue But no, instead they tried to politically assassinate In the semi-to-prison. But I don't think a lot of this TIP for TAT stuff is helpful.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I think we've got a national crisis on our hand. Yes. So can we talk about the policy, though? Because where they are going to keep attacking you, Rupert, it's very obvious that this is their game plan because I've all been following this playbook over the past 48 hours is that you are some way racist and that you are embracing an ethno-nat position.
Starting point is 00:26:28 That is what Reform UK is putting out there. Can you respond to that? I'm not remotely racist, even though Emily Macis has called me a racist, which I consider to be a badge of honour. So I have no problem with being called a racist. If that's what people think I'm, I'm not a racist. But what I do want to do,
Starting point is 00:26:49 and what I think is absolutely essential, is to protect the interests of those people who've built this country into what it is today, who pay their taxes, who live here honestly and legally, and who are being crowded out by mass legal and illegal immigration, which is not helping us because a lot of the people who've come in are on welfare, there are a cost to our country, not a benefit to our country, and it's time now to get rid of those people who aren't making a contribution who shouldn't be here. And let's start, as we say, we've been very clear with what we'd do. We would start with those people coming here illegally. So we'd stop that. We'd detain and deport them.
Starting point is 00:27:30 We'd then detain and deport those people who are living here illegally. And then we will move on to those people who are living here, who aren't contributing, who can't speak English, who are on welfare, and actually are a burden to the British taxpayer. So I think we will gradually address the issues, so stop the immigration and then deal with those people who shouldn't be here. I think we've also said we will deport the foreign criminals, the 10,500 foreign criminals in our prison deported straight away. And we'll use every bit of leverage we can, whether that's the foreign aid budget, and we know we send foreign aid to countries like Pakistan and a lot of other countries. And if they don't accept returns, then we just withdraw the foreign aid. And we will find
Starting point is 00:28:17 solutions to the deportation. And clearly that does involve, we've written probably the most comprehensive deportation policy. You've seen the document we produced. Exactly. It's all in there. It's all in there. It's all in there, Dan. It's, you look at the, look, we look at the constitutional reasons why we have a problem at the moment. We look at the solutions to that. Then we look at the, you know, making it a hostile environment, and we look at the actual practicalities of how we deal with it. So if people want to disagree,
Starting point is 00:28:52 look at our document. It's all in a document which we have published. It's on our website, and people can go on. That's what we are going to do. It's there for everybody to see. Another big policy announcement today, Rupert. Sorry, just finish your point.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Yeah. No, no, far away. Well, I was just going to say, another big policy announcement today, you have announced that Restore Britain will offer the British public a referendum on the death penalty and that you will campaign for it to be reintroduced. You're very clear that it should only be for cases where there is categorical evidence. So I guess that would rule out someone like Lucy Lettby, for example, where there are a lot of question marks over her conviction. However, you do say that there is absolutely
Starting point is 00:29:41 zero benefit to keeping a monster like Axel Ruder-Cabana alive. Now the thing is, Rupert, I think we both know that this referendum will win. The British public have long been in favour of the reintroduction of the death penalty, but the elite class have stopped us from having a say. You will give us that say. As you know, Dan, the essence of Restore Britain
Starting point is 00:30:08 is we do have the ability for our members, to put policy forward and then to vote on it. So there's two issues here. There's obviously the national referendum, which we're talking about, and then there's my view. And my view is quite straightforward. I mean, I know it's an emotive issue. I've got friends who are absolutely implacably opposed to the death penalty.
Starting point is 00:30:33 But my view is that people like Axel Ruder-Cabana, who is clearly guilty, there's absolutely no doubt about it. then I personally would be in favor of the death penalty for people like Axel Ruder-Cabana. But I would be guided by the referendum outcome, which as we know when we had a referendum on Brexit, the establishment weren't guided by the people's majority view of Brexit, which they didn't vote for for financial reasons. They voted for it for national reasons. They wanted their country back.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Even if it was going to cost them some money, they didn't care. not just driven by money. So with Lucy Letby, and I'm assured by David Davis that she's innocent, that is an entirely different case. I don't think we can definitively say that she is guilty. It is quite possible that she was a victim of an establishment that was trying to cover its tracks for its own failures. It's vile to think that could happen. But that is a possibility. And if you talk to people who know much more about it than I do, they firmly believe that to be the case. I mean, how long British justice will take for the cogs to grind and for her to be treated as she should have been treated at the beginning? I don't know. But there must be a process that
Starting point is 00:31:58 happens quickly to ensure that further injustice doesn't happen towards her. How long that will take? I don't know, Dan. We've got, as they say, you know, know, a lot of things going on at the moment, which are detracting from our concentration on an issue like that. But she would, somebody like Lucy Lettby is a totally different case to Axel Ruder-Kabana, you know, or the Manchester bomber or, you know, people who are clearly, without question, guilty, who've perpetrated crimes against other people and killed other people. I don't see any reason not to implement the death penalty myself. But that, I, I would respect the majority view on it.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I don't, I wouldn't die in the trenches. I would say that's my view. Let's have a fair, an open vote on it. Rupert, got to ask you about what's going on on the right of British politics. Ben, Habib and you have been good friends in the past, but it seems like a merger between Restore Britain and Advance UK isn't going to happen now? You've been swapping messages publicly on social media. That will disappoint a lot of people, Rupert. What's really going on between restore and advance? Could there still be a merger?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Well, of course, anything can happen, Dan, but I mean, people know, and I've never, ever said a bad word about Ben. I was in the European Parliament with Ben. I've got the highest regard for him. He and I had doubts about the Brexit deal. We had doubts about the Northern Ireland Protocol, but we were whipped to vote for the Brexit deal, which we did. However, and you know, he myself, my friend Robert Roland and Nigel all had dinner after the Brexit vote, after we left the EU. So look, I'm close to Ben. When for a form tried to politically assassinate me, which I have to say they failed in, but it was a pretty vile, and I'm Christian piece of behaviour.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Ben and I did meet with our teams, and we tried to find a way forward. And as you know, I wanted a movement. Yes. I didn't want a party at that time. And I think my movement plan has worked. It's united, as I said, elements of the right. And particularly, you know, the Tories put me on the Public Accounts Committee, which I said earlier I'm very grateful for.
Starting point is 00:34:36 and you can see the work I do trying to hold these permanent sectors to account who, as I say, don't care about public money. But we had a meeting. Ben initially agreed that he'd go with the movement and then when we were ready to go for a party, which would have happened last Friday, he would then join in. However, Ben decided to go and set up Advance UK
Starting point is 00:35:03 with its college and with the structure, he wanted. Meanwhile, I went and set up Restore Britain and did it a different way. So we've both now got our own members, we've got our own structures, we've got our own teams, and it's not easy then to find a solution that's fair to everybody in terms of merging the two. And as you find with all mergers, who merges with who, who emerges as the dominant party, and you end up getting all sorts of complications. So at the moment, the situation is we are allies. I thought Ben was very supportive yesterday after Farage made all those ridiculous comments, and I'm grateful to him for that. But I think there are issues of structure, there are issues of membership. There are there
Starting point is 00:36:02 are various philosophical issues, which mean I think at the moment we've got to both keep ploughing our own furrow. But I have these people who constantly say to me, oh, well, you're going to split the vote. Well, I don't agree with that because what we're finding, Dan, and I think this is the most exciting thing, is that people who haven't voted for a very long time are now flocking to restore Britain. So a lot of the people who've joined up are not the voters who voted in the last election. They're people who became disaffected with politics and they're now hopeful that there is a solution or at least a possible solution to Britain's problems. And I'm not a rocket scientist. All I am is what you see. I'm pretty straightforward.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I'm a provincial boy. I run lots of family businesses. I care deeply about the staff who work for us. our family business has been going 100 years. I like Britain as it used to be. I realize that we can't be totally recidivist and just look backwards and we have to look forwards and we have to embrace all forms of technological change. And I think, let's face it, people of my age have started with the Gestetna machine
Starting point is 00:37:23 and we're now in a completely different year. And we've had to, struggle to keep up, Dan. But you know, I know, and yet here you are a social media superstar with the most viral political video of the decade. I mean, it's quite something. Okay, look, Rupert, what about you, Kipp?
Starting point is 00:37:39 I've got to give my team credit. My team's fantastic, you know. I can provide. My grandmother used to say the older, wise, the younger able. Well, I provide the wisdom. They provide the ability. They are. They are social media superstars. If people want change, I'm I'm the lightning rod.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I'm very happy to try and lead the charge. I am what you see. I will genuinely do my very best. And 70,000 members. We've got to win. We've got to win by 2029. And we've got to really then have a radical agenda for change. That's where we're going.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Just final question, Rupert. I've got to ask you about UKIP, because we've got Nick Tanconi, UKIP's leader coming on next. He released a statement, last night suggesting that he would be open to a merger between UKIP and Restore Britain. Are you open to that?
Starting point is 00:38:38 Look, I'm open to unifying everybody who shares the agenda that we've put forward. And Nick and I have not met. I can see Nick. I think he's on the screen now. Nick and I haven't met before. we've not conversed before. As I say, mergers have to be handled very carefully. The analogy I use, Dan, is as a farmer,
Starting point is 00:39:07 if you get a pen of bullocks, which are being fattened on barley or silage or whatever, they have a few fights to start with and they work out who's boss. If you start throwing in new bullocks, you end up with a whole load of new fighting if you're not careful. I saw it in football. You can upset a changing room if you start bringing in too many new people, particularly if those new people think that they are either better footballers
Starting point is 00:39:35 or more intelligent or more able or have more weight, whatever. So you've got to handle mergers very correctly. But look, I think there's no reason why people on the right can't continue to do their own thing. The time to start talking about merger is before the next election. And that ultimately will tell you, so what we've got to do is garner all the votes we can collectively and then put those votes or put that support of the British people,
Starting point is 00:40:12 because in the end it's the British people who count, put their support together and try and then become the... the agents for change, which is so necessary. And I personally think everybody's got to keep cracking on and not getting too vexed about whether or not you have a sort of formal merger. We all share the same views and we all provide, if you like, an option for the British people. That doesn't stop us all supporting each other when we get to the election. And depending on how many votes we will get, depends on.
Starting point is 00:40:50 how that cake is cut up. So look, I don't subscribe to the view that we all have to be at one on, you know, now. What we're doing is we've got to tell the British people the problems we've got, which I think we're doing. With Ben again, I suggested to Ben, he came east with me to Suffolk Coastal. He chose to stand again in Wellingborough, where I told him he was never going to win. he didn't win. And although Parliament is dysfunctional, being an MP is still an incredibly powerful tool
Starting point is 00:41:29 and potentially agent for change. But, you know, that's why the existing establishment did not want reform breaking into Parliament. And our biggest achievement in my view was myself, Richard, Nigel and James McDowd, being elected, into Parliament, we were four new faces with absolutely no previous experience in Parliament. And that was our biggest achievement in my view. The fact that Nigel is now aggregating the Tory cabinet who arguably let us down, I joke with my team that all we need now is Boris and we've got the full house. So look, I mean, that I think undermines his brand every time he brings.
Starting point is 00:42:19 them. I don't think that's what the British people want. But look, if he's right, they'll vote for it. If he's not, then he'll lose their vote. And I think we've all got to respect the electorate. They are the ones with the wisdom. It's not for us to tell them how to vote. We've got to persuade them that what we offer is what they want. Well, it is a big three years ahead. Congratulations on 70,000 members. That was the big announcement from Rupert Lowe today. leader of Restore Britain, now a national political party. Rupert, thank you so much. Nick Tenconi, who is the leader of the UKIP party, joins me alongside my wonderful superstar panel. Today, we have Richard Thompson, who is the national director of Advance UK, Montgomery Tom's, of course, an independent
Starting point is 00:43:10 YouTube sensation, but also now a representative of Restore Britain and the wonderful activist, Kelly J. Keen. So, Nick, Tenconi, let's come to you first. You heard that doesn't sound like Rupert Lowe is keen for your merger offer. Is that what you were sensing, Nick? What are you talking about? It was a done deal. You heard it yourself, Dan. The guy's all over me, right?
Starting point is 00:43:36 Yeah, let's, well, first of all, peace be with you. It's Ash Wednesday. So let's focus in on what's important, right? The season of Lent has begun, and we're about to be bombarded with, Islamic propaganda from the monarchy, from the government. This is the Ramadan calendar works backwards. So every 12, 10 years, whatever this is going to happen, where there's a crossover.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Let's focus on what's important, first and foremost. It's the holiest of seasons worldwide, as we have prepared for Lent, and now we engage in arms giving contemplation, the mysteries, charity, fasting, abstinence, self-denial. This is what the nation needs. and Britain needs its roots, Dan, and our roots are Christ, thanks be to God. So I say, without the grace of God, we are so far fallen from grace.
Starting point is 00:44:28 The wickedness that we are surrounded in, the only way we can combat this is with the armor of God and the shield of faith. We absolutely need God's grace to win this battle. Or the Islamic Caliphate will win propped up by the Unholy Alliance, which I want to respond in terms of Rupert's reaction. I want to use the Unholy Alliance as an example of why it's so important. We talk about this. But look, all joking aside, the Unholy Alliance is mobilised behind a party called Greens. And they're polling very well with the Gen Z. So we're all talking about Labour, so much hatred and vitriol.
Starting point is 00:45:00 We've got to stop the Uni Party. We've got to stop the Uni Party. This is tactically dangerous. There are two enemies. There's the Unip Party and the Communists. The Islamic Caliphate comes into power through the Communists. That's how this works. So we must have one eye.
Starting point is 00:45:15 on the clear and present danger, but also further a field as well. So let me tie that into Rupert's response. Obviously, I've extended the hand a year ago to the day. I made a face to camera, pint in hand, give or take an inch. And I said, Rupert, you've been mistreated by a liberal. You came in on Nigel's, Rupert came in on Nigel's ticket, right? But you've been mistreated by a liberal. We're right-wingers. You need to jump on the team for the big win. A year later, he hasn't got back to me. I've now made the statement very clear. U-Kip's position is you First and foremost, it's unity. We haven't painted ourselves into a corner where we can't do business with any one person, whereas Rupert and Ben have. Now, you could argue that's really great, clear water. We have to stop the uny party, Dan, and we have to block the communists. And UKIP has gone as far as to say in our detention, deportation, remigration policy, we want the communists gone as well. And every one of your panel there, as only one gentleman, I don't know, every one of them is an activist. who's on the front line, who's fighting against Marxist ideology, whether your angle is women's
Starting point is 00:46:21 rights, freedom of speech, or in the case of UKIP, defending Christianity and ensuring that Britain remains a Christian land. So Marxism remains evil. One of the reasons why people were so excited with the launch of Restore Britain over the weekend is that we were salivating at the idea of unity on the right. And it doesn't look like that. That's quite going to happen. So I want to bring in Richard Thompson, who is the national director for Advance UK. Richard, you heard Rupert there. He said, look, we've got to keep doing our own thing.
Starting point is 00:46:59 That's going to disappoint a lot of people. But what is your plan at Advance UK if this merger idea is rejected? Are you going to keep on competing on the right versus Restore Britain now? Well, of course we keep going. You know, we, that's what we're here for. We're here as a party to, you know, make sure that, you know, the rights actually have a voice and we're happy to work with anybody. So obviously to your point, Nick, when you're saying about, you know, Ben has made it clear
Starting point is 00:47:30 that we wouldn't work with anyone. We would. We absolutely would. Anyone that is aligned with us philosophically in times of what is needed for the country and making a sort of sovereign, you know, proud, prosperous United Kingdom, then absolutely would. The offer with Rupert obviously remains open. I really do sincerely hope that some sort of deal and merger can be done maybe into the future. But as it stands, as he says, maybe there is some issues around the structure that needs to be ironed out. But this is just
Starting point is 00:48:01 very early days for them. I think what would be really good to see is, as he said, he sent out the invitations, you know, whether they're notional invitations, but The implication there is that he's willing to do some sort of work with other parties that are like-minded. Well, I would love to see him endorse then, you know, Nick Buckley in the Gorton and Denson. You know, we're a very important time right now. We've got this by-election coming up. We've seen what's going on with, as Nick, as you've pointed out, with the Greens and this unholy alliance that's forming there. You know, we need to have a strong representation.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Well, let me ask Montgomery-Thoms about that. Montgomery-Toms, would that be? be a good idea for Restore Britain to sort of show some unity. Obviously, it was too late for you guys to run a candidate yourself in Gorton and Denton. But would it be powerful to see Restore Britain actually endorse an incredible candidate like Nick Buckley? Well, look, my perspective, obviously things are very fast-paced and I announced, what was it now, just two days ago, that, you know, I'm coming out and working with and backing Restore Britain. Quite honestly, my answer to that is, I don't know. This is above me at this point in time, and I purely
Starting point is 00:49:18 want to come in from the angle of I am backing Restore all the way and the decisions that they make as a party are ever evolving, ever changing, of course, and I can't answer that question. But what I can say is it's absolutely the ambition of people at Restore and myself. And also, I think everybody on this panel and, of course, you. And you can say everyone on the right. I just say on everyone on the side of truth, really, and pushing back against the tyranny and authoritarianism we've seen over the past, you know, five, six years specifically, is that we just need to beat this, this, the completely systemic and corrupt, lefty nonsense that is taken over our government. So I want to see movements in a direction of unity, how that happens,
Starting point is 00:50:01 I'm not sure, I just want to get as many, specifically young people active in having this discourse, in having this discussion and thrashing ideas. I always make that point that, that, that, The way that we grow, especially on the right, is not by saying, you know, we're 100% right and we need to do it this way. It's about saying, no, we need to have public discourse, open conversations. And my angle on this at the moment is really simple. Let's have a conversation and get young people really involved in the right of politics. Kelly J. Kean, you're a bit like me, I think, not party political, but you're looking at all of this, watching all of this, seeing these different parties sort of go hammer and tongs at each other, even though fundamentally. we all agree on the same stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Does it frustrate you? Do you want to bang their heads together? Or do you think actually they've got to fight it out and see who comes out Supreme, as Rupert Lowe seem to be suggesting? Well, I think whatever they do, they've got to do it quickly because I'm very annoyed that we seem to have a right
Starting point is 00:51:03 because I think the Conservatives have lost all their collective minds when it comes to being conservative. They don't seem to want to do that anymore. And I don't think Kemmy's going to. bring anything back quick enough to win the next election. So reform great, really happy, and then they seem to be snatching defeat out of the jaws of the victory. And I just don't understand it when all you've got to do is steady the ship long enough to be elected. That's the job of a party like reform. And then they seem to have had squabbles with Rupert Lowe. And I was
Starting point is 00:51:41 actually given different information from Nigel Farage. I'll probably seek legal advice before I say what it is. But I was given different information from Farage personally about what happened to Rupert. And I'm, yeah, I just think, come on boys. Put your big boy pants on. And let's just make sure that one of you, some of you, all of you, can be elected. I mean, I started a party called Party of Women so that we could specifically talk about issues that women face because I think that all too often we just women's issues just get shoved around and there's always something more important
Starting point is 00:52:16 although Rupert has already launched like the strongest most strident pro-woman policy that I have seen actually and I think when you look at his work on the rape gang inquiry too you can see that
Starting point is 00:52:35 restored Britain I think are going to be a very powerful force for women yeah I think I think his work with the rape gang inquiry and actually making sure that happened, I think is absolutely phenomenal. And, you know, that in and of itself is enough for him to get hundreds of thousands of votes for women. I can't believe that nobody else had done it. You know, we've known about this a long time, grooming gangs.
Starting point is 00:53:04 And I call them the Pakistani paedophile rape gangs. But grooming gangs have been enough for a long time. Yes, he does. doesn't it? Yeah. Now, look, Nick, I want to ask you about an exchange that took place last night on talk TV, because this has very much divided the right. Alex Phillips, who in the past, I mean, gosh, she was a regular hero and outspoken, actually, for a long time until I think she thought that probably I wasn't pro-reform enough, enough of a Farageist, but look, she's a friend and she's a very good woman. but she does seem to be wanting to box restore Britain specifically,
Starting point is 00:53:41 but I would argue anyone to the right of Reform UK, into some type of ethno-nationalist blob. And she first did it with Charlie Downs two days ago, and then last night she did it with young Bob. Now, he's a 17-year-old guy. Obviously, you and him have had a bit of a back-and-forth, and, you know, he is a kid, he is very young. But what was interesting is that actually the right online very much came down on young Bob's side after this exchange. Milo Unopoulos writing, note the rising generation of young British activists making absolute mincemeat out of supposedly more seasoned reporters and they all support Restore. Embarrassing to watch this host retreat into tired TV legalese, bogus ethics swerves appeals to authority her own. So I just want to play you a couple of
Starting point is 00:54:36 the most astonishing exchanges between Alex Phillips and young Bob and then I'll get you to respond. Listen, can you not see where I'm coming from, Bob, that we need to be very clear about this, because otherwise we're on a slippery... We're on a slippery slope to something quite frightening. Which is? Which is, like I said, going door to door and saying to people,
Starting point is 00:54:58 who suggested that? That's what I'm asking you, because I don't think anybody... Has Ruth said that? Well, no, but not Charlie Downs nor you. are able to answer me how you executed. No one suggested this hypothesis that you've posited. So of course it's not the policy of restore. How you prosecute a policy where people who don't integrate are being deported? It's a great sentence. Very, very simple.
Starting point is 00:55:22 How? If you have ideas that geometrically oppose the ideas of the native British people, you then begin to ban those ideas, then you enact a British ice to deport these people if they don't adhere to the laws of the land. You're banning and deporting people based on ideas. Ideas exist inside someone's head. Do you not see why this is so dangerous? Practices. Practices. I just think we've got...
Starting point is 00:55:45 Bob, thank you ever so much for coming in. Word of warning, you're very young. You're starting out on your career. I do not want to see... I do not want to see you blow yourself up. So just... If that happens, it means there's a right-wing establishment that censors people.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Right? Maybe they're... Nick Tenconi, what did you make of? it. Very loud. Very loud. Very unpalatable. So look, at you Kip down, we rise above the noise. This is one of the benefits of having Christ in our hearts. We live ordered lives and we have ordered thoughts. That was embarrassing to watch. Alex is well-liked. She's well-liked, and I guess her position is centre-right. We're right-wing Christian nationalists and we're taking our country back. So I'm not sure what the hysteria and the emotion is for. I think we need a lot less of that on the right. I think that Twitter is 99% emotion, the huge amount of grifting,
Starting point is 00:56:42 and the people that profiteer off of our destruction are rubbing their hands with glee. And on accounts as well, who have no accountability, MI5 plants on the amount of controlled opposition and and designated task forces resources spent with people who like these posts and share them and actually platform them, platform these people and give them airtime. You don't have to be an activist in the field with Marxists spitting in your face to have a degree of common sense. Are we not aware of MI5 plants and controlled opposition and state assets who seek to divide and cause problems?
Starting point is 00:57:22 And it's all based on hatred, vitrials, spite and emotion. Now, what I just witnessed there, I haven't seen that clip before. I've absolutely no comment with regards to a 17-year-old who was in no way, shape or form earned his strike. Burned every single political bridge and every single hand that was, olive branch that was extended to him. The amount of counsel and schooling he was given to then go and behave the way that he's behaved, unapologetically so, and also to be so full of deceit and a liar and a hypocrite. And I know that. This is something that is not for professionals to engage in.
Starting point is 00:57:56 But with regards to Alex, she needs to get a hold of herself. She needs to, she's centre-right and she's a reform, what is she, a reform spokesperson? She's Nigel's camp through and through. So let's start linking this to your original point about Rupert and what happens next. Guys, we've got a real fantastic situation on our hands here. You want liberalism? You want centralism? Vote reform.
Starting point is 00:58:18 You want some sort of centre-right, advance, centre-right. we don't believe in right and left, and we're certainly not going to acknowledge the communist, vote advance. If you want Christian nationalism, Christianity back into the heart of government and Marxism, ripped out of Britain, vote Christian nationalist UKIP. If you want something which, and this is where I conclude, Dan,
Starting point is 00:58:39 so let's put some meat on the bone turn. Let's not shy away from it. You brought it up, not me. My questions are, what is the ideology at Restore? Are there any boundaries being set? What is the ideology? Is it conservatism? Well, we've got Montgomery Tom's here.
Starting point is 00:58:54 So let's ask, because Rupert was very clear today, responding to the attack from Laila Cunningham, who has actually gone on GBC News and described Charlie Downs as a neo-Nazi and spoken about an Aryan race. Rupert Lowe has been very clear today. Restore Britain is not a racist party. They were his words, Montgomery, Thompson.
Starting point is 00:59:15 But it feels to me like Alex Phillips and the reform lot are trying to put you guys in an ethno-nationalist box. Yeah, I mean, it's completely ridiculous the idea to call someone like myself and other people that are in Restore, or even support Restore, racist. That means you're calling a lot of people racist, which you've only got to look on social media to know that's really not the case. Look, the thing is, we need to have, frank, and open discussions about what it is to be British. And if we can't do that without, you know, throwing our toys out of the pram,
Starting point is 00:59:49 you know, where are we, where are we in 2026? The fact is, you know, just because you have a piece of paper that says that you are British, it doesn't mean you're British. A passport, in my opinion, does not reflect what is absolutely integral to being part of this nation, which is your lineage, which is your ancestry. That doesn't turn you into some like far right, uh, uh, like extremist who, who hates people of, of color. I mean, it's just ridiculous. We should be able to trash these ideas out really openly and firmly. And the reaction that I saw, you know, I thought it was very interesting dialogue. And I'm glad, you know, this is a discussion I'm sure many people have had not publicly, which is finally reaching, like, for example, this panel that we're having
Starting point is 01:00:32 right now, it's interesting that we're even having this discussion. I feel like four or five years ago, maybe we weren't prepared to be able to thrash these ideas out. But we are in a position where we can thrash these ideas out. We should be having these discussions. Exactly, without just saying, game calling, racist, neo-Nazi. Because Kelly J. Key, exactly. That's, Bonte, you took the words out of my mouth. I was literally going to say to Kelly J. Keene, this is the deceitful tactic of the hard left.
Starting point is 01:00:59 And it actually breaks my heart to see Reform UK going down this path. Because remember, Kelly, the left are now just going to use these tactics on them. Yeah, look, I think Layla Cunningham saying that about, anybody, a political opponent of any stripe, I just think it's a bit amateur, isn't it? It's a bit babyish. We've all been there. We've done that. They don't even, those words don't even mean anything anymore. Most, if you haven't been called a Nazi in the five years, if you even said anything meaningful or truthful, probably not. So I don't think, I think it really destroys her own reputation. I think she comes out worse for that. But I do think when you
Starting point is 01:01:42 introduce terms like white and Christian and you say that that is upon that basis you are British, I do think you invite some pushback for that. I think many of us, I'm 52 nearly, in this country my whole life, my granny, granddad, great grandparents, etc., etc. I'm my husband's in the Doomsday Book. You know, we're the most English people I know, but I also know people that I would called British, who definitely aren't Christian, I'm also not Christian, definitely aren't Christian and aren't white. And I think that there is a collective cultural identity that we call British under a nation. And I think within that, we also have people that are ethnically English and ethnically Welsh. And I do think that we should be a little bit concerned
Starting point is 01:02:32 when very young men are brought on the television, number one, because I don't think they're, I've got a 17-year-old. I would hate for him to say things on national television that could then be used against him for the next sort of 20 years. Yeah. So I do think we should be looking, political parties should be looking after young people that they send onto TV to defend their positions. I think that is a fair point.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Richard Thompson, from an advance UK point of view, though, I mean, you have a leader who has Pakistani heritage, yet they're still throwing the race. terms at you guys too. And that's what makes no sense. And I actually thought Charlie Downs was clear in his interview on Talk TV, even though lots of people like Constantine Kistner coming out and saying, well, you didn't answer the question. He just said that it makes you more British if you are Christian. He didn't say that you were not British if you weren't. But I do think, Richard, where we have a real problem in this country, is to say that there is no British ethnicity whatsoever. Because, of
Starting point is 01:03:37 course, if you are English, Welsh, Scottish or Northern Irish, you are British. You can be a British national, but it's the old thing, Richard, that if I moved to Japan and spent 30 years in Japan, I might have a Japanese passport. I might become a Japanese national, but I'm not ethnically Japanese. And I do think it is a key point. And I don't think it makes you racist for saying that. no absolutely not and what you're noticing is the as as as you know monty had said there before is that this is the you know the the weapons of the left and this is what they're doing and i'd be very surprised i think you probably know this quite well dan is that you a lot of these people within the media that as i know that this this particular presenter is is a spokesperson for reform but you know they're
Starting point is 01:04:32 They're trying to silence the argument. They don't want to have this discourse. They don't want to have these discussions. So then they start to label people as racist and things like that. And this terminology has lost all of its meaning. I mean, at Advanced UK, I think probably similarly to, as Nick was saying and with, you know, Montgomery, is that we recognize that this is a, you know, crucial, you know, thing that needs to be identified.
Starting point is 01:04:56 That's why when we started formulating our immigration policy, the first thing we noticed stand out to us is that we need to centre everything around who we are culturally. And that should be our basis of which we grow from in terms of our policies and as a party and centre around that. So it is very interesting. And I think that a lot of people in the media have actually, you know, probably done some sort of, you know, had some sort of promises made to them for this. Absolutely. I know that for a fact, there are so many talk TV presenters and so many GB News presenters who have been promised a safe seat in the Lords, sorry, so it's been promised a seat in the Lords, a safe seat to run for Parliament.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Some of them are in discussions with Reform UK about potentially taking on the Caroline Levitt's spokesperson role. I think that's intellectually dishonest. I'm very honest about who I vote for, who I might support, but I am not a member of any political party. I do think it makes a difference. Nick Tenconi, want to give the final word of this to you as you Kip Leder. Of course, you have endorsed.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Matt Goodwin in the Gorton and Denton by-election, not Richard Thompson's Advanced UK candidate, Nick Buckley. That was an interesting decision. Are you regretting it at all, or do you stand by it? Stand by it. I made the decision, therefore I stand by it. So a massive thank you to you, Dan, and to our panel. I don't see any infighting here at all.
Starting point is 01:06:24 I see us on the right as one big happy family. That is if our ideology is conservatism. So I've got a very watchful eye. I've made my offer to Rupert. We clearly don't have any, we don't have an answer from Rupert. I've extended the hand twice now. And that,
Starting point is 01:06:41 that hand remains extended. And my last meaningful conversations with Ben Abbey were a year ago. I could only extend the hand so many times. My hand remains extended. We are taking our country back. And to clear up this, that we must be very, careful with our language and control. It's very important to stay in control of the narrative.
Starting point is 01:07:03 So the question about what is it to be British? This is definitely an agenda with a certain demographic, a certain group of people. We need to be very careful here. Our shared identity, whether you are agnostic, atheist, what Buddhist doesn't matter. Our shared identity is in our roots. And those roots in terms of what created Britain and what gave us everything is Christ. atheists would agree agnostics would agree you don't have to be you don't have to be attending church we are we are not secular constitutionally but those are our roots so please come by advice the patriots who I work for your good self our panel don't get sucked in to to deny that there is an extremist presence on the on the right of politics at the moment is absolute nonsense
Starting point is 01:07:54 There is that presence just because the left tactics are despicable and because we've all been labelled Nazis and racists and fascists for absolutely no reason for far too long. I totally agree, but the problem is Nick,
Starting point is 01:08:08 if we have people apparently on our own side like Layla Kahnem calling me far right calling colleagues of Montgomery neo-Nazis, I'm sorry, that is on them. That is on them. And what they are going to do is degrade actual racist, actual Nazis, who might be operating in the space.
Starting point is 01:08:32 But to suggest that I'm that is so ludicrous. To suggest that Charlie Downs is that is so ludicrous. So I totally hear what you're saying. And I'm not for a single second saying that there are not a presence of extremism. But the problem is, if we're going to see Reform UK, go down this path and try and say that anyone who is to the right. of them is a neo-Nazi and is far right? Well, it's them who is going to create actually this climate. Absolutely. So again, you're very kind to give me the last point. So for, for brevity, I will say this. We rise, but we are one family on the right. What's been done has been done.
Starting point is 01:09:12 The right people have done the right thing. But Rupert has said what we all know. It's in a first past the post system, it's winner takes all. But we are a big family. But that's based on ideology. what this is breaking news and I've been in in the field all day long. What Layla said is is so irresponsible and it's so wrong. This is what I say to the Patriots and to the panel, we rise above the noise. We have an ordered mind and we rise above the noise. And we must at the general election,
Starting point is 01:09:42 you'll have a centrist opportunity. You'll have a centre right opportunity, a Christian nationalist opportunity. And then whatever, I have questions. Rupert hasn't answered them. I don't know the ideology. the policies, will he become registered as a political party? Yes. There are so many, there are so many questions,
Starting point is 01:09:58 but the electorate is going to have an abundance of choice. And in an overcrowded space where you all share the same ideology, that is where splitting of the vote, those are the preconditions for splitting of the vote. And I will not allow that. I will not hurt Britain. We must stop the uny party, but we must also block the communists,
Starting point is 01:10:16 the unholy alliance, the Islamic Caliphate, and we must unite. However that looks, And that means that myself, Ben and Rupert, need to work closely and collaboratively together. Totally. Well, that is a really positive message, actually. And my sense from Rupert is he is open to that. He's not open to any formal merger yet, but he is open to some type of coming together.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Nick Tenconi keep pushing ahead on that front. The massive crisis engulfing King Charles and the British royal family has just got worse overnight. With reports now that seven. separate police forces in the United Kingdom are now probing Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, the former Royal. And what's most shocking and what is worrying, Prince William in particular, is that some of these investigations now do relate directly to sex trafficking on Epstein's so-called Lolita Express. So this is the latest. Seven forces now are setting evidence in the Epstein files as part of a nationwide probe coordinated by a team of British police
Starting point is 01:11:27 chiefs. Their checks include up to 90 flights into Stansted's private terminal by the jet owned by Mountbatten, Windsor's Pito Powell, Jeffrey Epstein. Essex Police were the latest to weigh in, saying we are assessing the information that has emerged in relation to private flights into an out-of-Standstead airport following the publication of the US DOJ Epstein files. At least six other forces have be the launch criminal investigations or assessing evidence within the files three million pages. They include the Metropolitan Police, Surrey, Thames Valley, Norfolk, Bedfordshire and Wiltshire Police. So this is now becoming so difficult to see a situation in which the king potentially becomes embroiled in a court case, something that has always been considered untenable. Of course, this comes further down the past.
Starting point is 01:12:21 if Andrew is charged and then is put on trial and pleads not guilty, senior royal sources telling me it's almost impossible to see how Charles could remain on the throne. If Andrew were to give evidence saying that the king approved, or not approved of his behaviour, but was aware of some of these allegations. It's also really mucky, the stuff that's coming out, it's really gross. Like, what about the fact that Andrew sent Christmas cards with numerous photos of his young daughters, Beatrice and Eustin, despite the fact that he had just been jailed for sex trafficking, a 14-year-old?
Starting point is 01:13:12 The first card dated the 21st of December 2011 and signed by the then Duke of York, which Epstein much joy and happiness at this time and for the year ahead. Remember, he told Emily Maitless, by the way, that he had no communication with Epstein whatsoever. There was another picture as well showing Beatrice and Eugenie alongside their father when they were aged 23 and 21. One image showed the young women posing in the snow with Princess Beatrice in a silver Christmas cracker hat and earmuffs. I mean, why would you do it? Why would you send a paedophile sex traffic of pictures of your own daughter. But then we know Fergie was having discussions with Epstein about Eugenie being on a shagging weekend. It's also really difficult for
Starting point is 01:14:02 Andrew in terms of the US aspect of all of this. David Boyd, who was the lawyer for the late Virginia Dufre, is now suggesting that Andrew should be given some type of clemency in order to travel to the U.S., to provide evidence to Congress without being under criminal investigation. Watch this with Piers Morgan. And when he knew it, what he knew about her age, what he knew about the extent to which he was coerced, she was coerced. I think needs to be decided by investigators, prosecutors, and ultimately by judge or jury. He certainly engaged in terribly wrongful conduct. He clearly knew that Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell
Starting point is 01:15:07 were trafficking these girls. Now, whether he knew that they were under age, whether he knew that there was force and coercion involved, that is something that is, state of mind that I think before I made a judgment on that I'd want to see more evidence But it's certainly something that's worth was worth investigating Whether statute of limitations have now passed I think is a question But I have been as you know I have been very disappointed in the authorities in the United States and in the United Kingdom for not doing this investigation in a timely way.
Starting point is 01:15:55 And by the way, David Boyes is the guy who believes that Megan Markle should give testimony over what she knew about Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor. He is completely right to say the police are playing catch-up here. They ignored this for such a long time. And I think there was a sense of complicity with the British authorities and the royal family. Well, that's out the window now. There was more from David Boyce. Watch.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Should Andrew Mountain Baton, Windsor now come to the United States and face the music under oath in front of Congress, in your opinion? Absolutely. I think he's got an obligation to tell what he knows. Now, I also think that if he's afraid of being arrested in the United States, we ought to give him safe passage to come to the United States to testify. because I think we don't want there to be any excuse for him not coming and telling what he knows. But he knows a lot. How much I don't know myself because they gave up in the litigation we had against them just before his deposition was supposed to be taken.
Starting point is 01:17:13 So I don't think anybody knows how much he knows. But we know he knows a lot from his contact. and whatever he knows, even though it was a little bit, I think he has an obligation to share that. There is also a potentially game-changing moment coming at Westminster, with the door being open for parliamentarians in the United Kingdom to actually call Andrew to give evidence. Now, this would genuinely be a game-changer. It really would.
Starting point is 01:17:46 This is how the Royal Editor Robert Jobsen described at MPs poised to investigate Andrew Mountbatten Windsor's conduct as US trade envoy, committee chairman Liam Byrne, told the BBC this watch. But my task this week is to make sure that the committee's got options in front of them when they may on Tuesday for how we might or might not take this investigation forward. Obviously, we can't and don't want to compromise a police investigation. We've got quite strict rules about subduity and getting involved in things that may come before the cause. But this is obviously a matter of huge concern and I'm going to make sure that my committee's got the full options available for how we take our investigations forward when they convene next Tuesday morning.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Would you potentially ask to speak to him to try and clear some of those details up? I don't want to prejudge where the committee's going to go on this at this stage. Would it be one of your options though? You said you haven't sort of considered what your final one will be just yet, but presumably that would be one of them. At this stage, all I can say is nothing is off the table. So, I mean, this is a huge moment on so many fronts. bring in my superstar panel, Richard Thompson, the National Director of Advance UK, Montgomery,
Starting point is 01:18:56 Tom's independent YouTuber, and Kelly J. Kean, women's rights activists. So Kelly, I mean, I totally agree with David Boys that the British police are playing catch-up. I mean, they've done nothing for years and years and years. All of a sudden, seven police forces investigating. But I also think we would be naive to say that we are not in totally uncharted territory here. Because of course, if Andrew does end up on the stand, he could in some way implicate his brother. Remember the king, it's his court. So I do now see a situation. You know I'm a royalist and a moniker, so I'm really not being hysterical about this, but I do now see a situation where this could lead to the abdication of King Charles if the royal family isn't careful. How do you see
Starting point is 01:19:48 all of this playing out as a women's rights campaigner. Personally, I'm preparing a party early. I absolutely loathe the man. Both of them. Andrew and Charles? Yeah. Yeah, I do. I think the country's been terrible since the Queen died.
Starting point is 01:20:07 And so maybe that would be great if we could find a way to get rid of Charles. But him being on the stand and giving evidence I just think they Everyone knows everything I mean I've watched the crown I feel like I know everything about the monarchy I think they all know everything
Starting point is 01:20:27 I think in order for Andrew to make those trips there would have been quiet conversations with the king I think either he was involved or he knew or he turned a blind eye but either way he's definitely implicated you can't be doing that for all of those years
Starting point is 01:20:45 and the person writing the church for your security and approving every single penny that you spend and approving your allowances and approving your travel and knowing where you are, of course they're on you. But it will be very, very exciting. And obviously, one must say at this point that it will be justice for or some justice for some victims who can look at this and say, well, you know, even the most powerful of these disgusting. casting paedophiles and child abusers and torturers, at least some of them are going to
Starting point is 01:21:22 have to answer some questions. Yes, but of course, Virginia Dufray is dead. So too late for her, but I agree there are others who may feel a sense of justice. I guess, Monty, where I feel like I've got to provide a little bit of a defense is that I don't think Charles knew during the back and forth. He wasn't monarch at that time. I don't think he knew that he was like potentially shagging young women in Epstein's pussy palace. I don't think Charles knew that. The problem is he did know about the financial settlement to Virginia Dufre and paid we learn 1.5 million pounds and hush money. Now I think that becomes very difficult for
Starting point is 01:22:15 King Charles, and I think the person who has his hands completely clean in all of this is Prince William and Catherine. They didn't know. They didn't pay any of the money. And actually, it probably would be, you know, a simpler thing, even though I'm not advocating for application at this stage, it would be a simpler thing to have them on the throne. Well, look, justice, accountability, and the judicial system in Britain is one of the main cornerstones that upholds our culture, actually. And we kind of pioneered it. And I don't care if you're the royal family, whether you're the managed, I don't care, politician. I expect full transparency. God knows what other doors this could open from other involvement. I mean, whether it be from the likes of Bill Gates
Starting point is 01:23:08 to possibly our current Prime Minister who, you know, has a pretty tight grip on understanding legal proceedings, etc., especially in 2010, etc., when he was in and around this kind of sphere. Point being is I don't want there to be, I want complete
Starting point is 01:23:26 public transparency when it comes to the Royal Family, any dealings with Epstein, Charles, etc. And Prince Andrew, and I don't think it goes further than that. I just want, heads on the plate. I want to know what happened. We need transparency.
Starting point is 01:23:41 No one's above the law. And I don't think it gets more complicated than that. I think everyone would agree. Absolutely. Richard Thompson, from a political perspective, I mean, you're obviously the National Director of Advance UK. For such a long time, political parties have always said, oh, we can't talk about the royal family at all.
Starting point is 01:24:00 But I think now MPs actually have a responsibility and political parties have a responsibility to demand accountability. from Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor. He is not a member of the Royal Family now in any type of working capacity. Even the Speaker of the House, Lindsay Hoyle, who always has total deference to the British Royal Family,
Starting point is 01:24:20 says, no, you can discuss Andrew in Parliament now. Surely he should be called to give evidence. If it was any of us, we would be. So what's different about him? Absolutely. You know, Lady Justice is blind, right? It's a quality. Well, it should be.
Starting point is 01:24:39 It should be. Sadly, it's not anymore in this country. He should be held accountable. He should be dragged in there, regardless of how they get him there. He needs to go. And he needs to give his account. I think it's very telling, to be honest with it, you don't pay any money to someone when you're innocent, right?
Starting point is 01:24:54 And you can argue, okay, well, the royal family, they like to sort of, you know, not engage, you know, no comment, no comment, no comment. But, you know, and, you know, I don't like to talk ill with the monarch for as many criticisms you could throw it his way. I would say that he must have known that there was a lot more that was coming out, going to come out, and probably is still remaining to come out, because he took that action, you know, I'm not sure how long ago it was now, to actually remove him of his titles and to announce him as a prince.
Starting point is 01:25:23 So there's obviously, you know, some flames there, right? No smoke without fire. I mean, there's a lot going on. I wonder how much everybody knew. But he definitely, he needs to come forward. He needs to be brought over the coals. and the victims deserve justice for that. And Kelly, Jakin, do you think we're ever going to find out the full truth about Epstein and the Files?
Starting point is 01:25:43 Because, of course, the US administration now is saying that everything that can be released has been released. But if you look at Elon Musk, for example, who does actually feature in the Files, he has said, no, there are actually videos of lots of these men, including massive names on the left, engaging in sex. sacks with Jeffrey Epstein, which surely would provide actual evidence. And Elon Musk has said those videos are still being covered up. And we know from reading the emails that Epstein had lots of hidden cameras clearly to bribe very high profile people with the fact that he had this footage. So do you think we're ever going to see it all? Or is it always going to stay to some extent covered up? I don't think we are ever going to see it all. And I think the more horrifying reality is that Jeffrey Epstein is one of many, many powerful
Starting point is 01:26:45 pedophile rings. Like, he's not the only one. There are many that we don't know about. There are things that these people do that we can't even imagine. On a scale that we will, we just, if you're a good person, you can't possibly conjure the sort of things that they've done to children and the number of children that have been involved. So no, I don't think they will, but the internet's a really big place. I'm surprised we haven't had more, like, names come out.
Starting point is 01:27:16 And I can only imagine that either the victims are dead or they are so traumatized that they are incapacitated somehow. But we want names. I want to know who these men are. and I'd like us to take pedophilia and the rape of children really seriously, which we see in this country all the time. Judges give not even prison sentences for people with hundreds of thousands of images of child rape.
Starting point is 01:27:45 So maybe it's a bit of a wake-up call for many of us that paedophilia is not taken seriously. The torture, rape and murder of children is not taken seriously at all by anyone in a position. of authority. Yeah, and remember when people like me was saying satanic gangs of paedophiles are actually running the world, are actually totally, you know, imbued in the deep state on both sides of the Atlantic, we were laughed off as conspiracy theorists. I'm sorry, just read the Epstein emails. Just read the Epstein emails. Paloma Faith. She was the first voted off
Starting point is 01:28:28 the traitors, but I would argue she is a gender traitor. After the most insane new video, where she used her gender reveal party, a personal moment in her life, to make a point about people who believe in biological sex. Campaigner John James posted on this, Paloma Faith calls gender reveals transphobic BS. And, says the kid will decide its gender later. Reality checks sex is binary, not a choice. She's fueling the confusion, not fixing it. I'm glad she was the first to be putted off the traitors. And I do have to say, when you watch this video, you've really got to think there is a mental illness now that runs through these celebrities because she is the one who is politicising
Starting point is 01:29:25 her poor unborn child watch Gender reveal post Is it going to be a boy or is it going to be a girl? I want all of you to know Oh come on does it really matter It's 2006 Do we even give a shit about gender anymore You bloody transphobic homophobic pricks
Starting point is 01:29:50 It'll be whatever it wants to be when it's old enough to decide its own identity. But God's sake! Well, I mean, firstly, she's stupid because for a long time, people haven't realized that actually the trans extremists are the homophobes are the ones that hate gay and lesbian people. So please do not put us in the same camp. But I have to be honest, Kelly J Keene,
Starting point is 01:30:14 when I saw this video last night, you were the first person I thought of. I just need to hear your response. Well, I think what we know is the child is, likely to be obnoxious. Because Paloma Fate is just utterly obnoxious. This is not her first comments about transgenderism and how she just lets her child do what they want,
Starting point is 01:30:38 as if nobody else does, as if, you know, most of us are saying to our small boys, you know, giving them a good whack if they pick up a doll. Like this is normal parenting. And the narcissism of using your pregnancy to try and score political points against people that just don't want men in women-only spaces just makes her rather pathetic.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Yeah, indeed. Montgomery, Tom's, your view? You've campaigned on this issue too? Yeah, I mean, that was, frankly, that's actually the first time I've watched that video and that was just a weird and disturbing watch. But anyway, I mean, you know my take down. I mean, I was arrested not long ago, wasn't I, at prize 2025 for wearing a placard saying
Starting point is 01:31:21 And it said, what, transism, mental illness? that what it said? Which it is. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's just pretty much understood, you know, mental illness, mental disorder. But the point is, you know, the whole gender, I hate even using the word gender. I refuse to use their lingo. I believe in sex. It just doesn't go beyond that. As soon as you start a certain idea, there are, there are genders, you then open up even conversations to being multiple ones. I don't care. But if we are going to use these words, you know, this is for me, as a young guy who was in the education system not that long ago, as you well know, It's such a symbolic word as it features a cult.
Starting point is 01:31:57 I mean, it's a complete cult, as we well know. It's my ambition to go up and down the country as actually I'm going to be doing in the coming days, to have these debates with students, you know, to wake young people up and to shake young minds up to say, come on, you can reject this. You have the strength to be able to tear around and say, no, this is bullshit. I'm sorry to say, I'll put it frankly. I know that, for example, Rupert, Rupert Lowe echoes the same thing. At least we have somebody who also comes forward and says, yeah, it is a mental illness. It is, I hate using the word gender. I hate the fact that we've got public figures that want to parrot this nonsense, which ultimately, that the word gender, the whole philosophy around it has led to the abuse of children, puberty blockers, the mutilation of young bodies. It's disgusting. It's a cult. Want nothing to do with it. You know my take on it. At Freedom WatchGB, which is my organisation, I'm going to be. making that very loud and clear, even in 2026. I can't believe we're still doing this post-court
Starting point is 01:32:53 ruling. But I'm going to be doing that, waking young minds up and bringing truth and reality to the British public. Richard Thompson, where does Advance UK stand on this gender madness? Oh, it's complete madness. It's so, it's really upsetting, to be honest with you. You look at it. I mean, kids, kids, they're incredible. You need to nurture them. You need to support them. You need to give them, you know, strong morals and self-esteem, if you confuse them early on, then you're just insetting more insecurities and you're setting them up for failure and to have stress. I mean, you know, I've got, I've been blessed. I've got five children. I would never, you know, want to sort of, you know, push this kind of, it's a toxic, toxic thing that we're pushing
Starting point is 01:33:40 on our children. As you've said, it's led to some really disgusting outcomes and we're talking about, you know, pumping these children, you know, from an early age and, you know, hormones and puberty blockers and things like that, it's an absolute disgrace. And, you know, she shouldn't be, you know, I would suggest that really people need to look at this and really consider the wellbeing of a child that's going to grow up in an environment like that. Indeed. Kelly J Keene, there was one other moment up this week and I watched it and I was like, oh my goodness, I've got to save this when I've got Kelly on the show. So it's a call on Jeremy Vine between Jeremy Vine and a trans woman, so a biological man. And it's the mental gymnastics in terms of where the host
Starting point is 01:34:36 and the panelist have to go in terms of the clashing of the trans ideology with the Islamist ideology and where it leaves these woke TV presenters. Honestly, it's sort of a sign of the times of how effed up modern Britain is. But I wanted to play it to you and get your reaction. I'm a 61-year-old, six-foot-toe trans woman. That's real trans, not one of these fake ones. I cannot go into London. I mean, I'm on the border of Essex. I mean, I cannot go into London now. And certain boroughs, for me and my trans friends, is a no-go zone. I would not last 10 minutes in Tower Hamlets. So, hang on, let me just help me understand.
Starting point is 01:35:24 You're saying that as someone who was born male but has had what they used to call a sex change, you would be in danger if you went into some areas with minorities in? Yes, without a doubt. Why is that, I went to, because I do stand out, but I'm six foot toe. I've got long red hair. My voice isn't exactly very feminine. Some people will see I'm still got male traits. Okay?
Starting point is 01:35:51 I don't want to put myself in danger. But isn't the threat, I'm not, listen, you may well be right. But isn't the threat just as bad if you go to a, let's say, white working class area? No. No, not at all. Really? Henry doesn't think so? No, Kimberly, your experience is your experience.
Starting point is 01:36:08 I mean, there are parts of this country that certainly when I was younger, I would never go anywhere near. because it was serious hostility, real hostility. I went into a pub, who knows what would happen. But the idea that you're going to be at greater risk in Tower Hamlets because there's lots of Muslims there than you might be, let's say you go into a bar in Burystay Edmunds full of guys who may not necessarily be used to looking
Starting point is 01:36:28 to seeing someone like you. Are you really saying he'd be at less of a risk there than you would be in Tower Hamlets? On what basis? Well, I've been stabbed twice in London. That's the basis, there you go. It's a big city. Sadly, that happens sometimes. I'm sorry to laugh.
Starting point is 01:36:41 I'm like. And I actually believe it. I believe it. But Kelly J. Keene, wasn't that actually most extraordinary scene, the reaction from the TV presenters who were just like, oh, God, we can't admit the reality? Oh, it was perfect, wasn't it? And these two groups do come up against each other
Starting point is 01:37:01 and also are in bed together in the Green Party, which is hilarious. You have the sort of pro-trans Green Party, apparently, and then the deputy leader's wife wears a burker and shouted Al-Aqvah when he was elected, which is perfect. But this guy, I just like it, he goes, well, how do you know you weren't safe?
Starting point is 01:37:23 Well, I've been stabbed twice. Oh, well, you know, that happens. Yeah, that does happen. Well, it hasn't happened to me. And just the whole thing that he had to say that he doesn't really pass and his voice isn't feminine. I'm thinking, yeah, none of you do.
Starting point is 01:37:38 But it was, it's quite a perfect, a little snapshot of the time, isn't it? It was. It was a snapshot of the madness, I think, of Britain in 2026. But I think Montgomery, obviously what for me was the most fascinating thing was like, you know, for the host, it's like no issue with the trans thing, no issue with the stabbing thing. We just can't talk about Islamists. And we've immediately, immediately got to blame white working clubs. men and create this fake idea that white working class men have as much of a problem with violence against people as Islamists.
Starting point is 01:38:22 And it's almost like this total acceptability of pushing racism, anti-white racism, in order to protect people who I don't think deserve protection, actually. Yeah, I mean, it's just hilarious to watch. I mean, it's like when I was at the demonstration, I think, oh, God, a couple months ago about the resurgence and puberty blockers, and then I'm looking opposite, and then there's the trans mob, and then right next to the trans mob, there's the pro-Palestine mob, and then I'm trying to go over and speak to them,
Starting point is 01:38:54 and they're sort of divided, but they're working together, and it's just quite amusing to watch. But something that I want to actually just drop in, which I wanted to bring up when I previously spoke, is actually in regards to, you know, when I mentioned puberty blockers and I mentioned the mutilation towards young people, is actually going to quote for you a tweet from Rupert. I won't read the whole thing, where we outrightly state, you know, any doctor found to have given vulnerable children mutilating surgery or puberty blocking poison will be struck off and put in prison.
Starting point is 01:39:26 This is actually the conversation that we should be having about accountability, about justice. And we can have these, you know, we can continue to watch these stupid conversations play out on television or online or on X. But really, let's just put an end to this. Let's put an end to this conversation. Let's have justice accountability and protect children. I'm kind of, whilst it's an important topic to discuss, exhausted by it. Well, it is. And especially given that we thought that there was some type of victory and then where streeting started the puberty blocker trial again.
Starting point is 01:39:56 But anyway, that's a whole other story. Stand by you three because we're about to reveal who has won. the Union Jackass poll today. But first, I just want to quickly get to the superchats because we've had so many today. Thank you so much. Abater-Terex says, Nigel Al-Faraji, leader of the Reformian party. Very funny. Now turns traitor to the British people. Anybody who ignores Farage's transgressions is at best delusional and at worst traitors England over Islam. So very, very tough on Farage there. Lord Vada in Malaysia says go rupert. The vast majority of people are crying out for a real leader in the UK that actually addresses issues and is not afraid to do the things that needs doing.
Starting point is 01:40:34 The Guava, who is an outspoken plus member and has been for five months, thank you so much, says 70,000 members is less than a week. Woot, Woot, Rupert, talking about that big announcement from Rupert Lowe earlier. Of course. Thank you to M. Tunneycliffe, who is asking about the next Unite the Kingdom event. We're going to be talking about that tomorrow, actually, and we will be providing full coverage here on outspoken. Civil Defence UK says Britain needs restore Britain.
Starting point is 01:41:01 not more of the same old, same old Reform UK have nothing new to offer a Ford UK becoming the third spoke on the Uni Party wheel of doom. Interesting. Simon Brandy says, I hope Jeremy Clarkson backs Rupert. If so, Rupert needs to visit his farm for a photo op. Then let's see Nigel suggest nobody knows Rupert, after I know lots of people are hoping that Clarkson is going to throw his weight behind Restore Britain. I'm not so sure. He's always been a Tory as far as I'm aware. But let's hope. Chava 2 UK says they just throw out labels to shut us down, keep saying it, it shows they are rattled. Jack Quinn says I would like to ask the British public
Starting point is 01:41:39 to only refer to Rupert from this point forward as Rupert the Lionheart. And Chess Hunt says, would low benefit to speak at Tommy's Unite the Kingdom Rally? We'll remember the only politician that was brave enough to speak at the last UTK was Ben Habib. I think it did him a huge amount of good. Personally, I think it would be great for Rupert. to speak there. I'm not sure if he will, though, but let's see. Okay, a reminder of your union jackass nominees nominated by my brilliant superstar panel, Kelly J. Keen went for Sadiq Khan for the Ramadan lights and his hatred of Londoners. Richard Thompson went for Hannah Spencer, who is the terrible
Starting point is 01:42:17 green candidate running on a Gaza ticket in Gorton and Denton, and Montgomery Thoms went for Alex Phillips for being intellectually dishonest reform UK. Okay, here are the results. In third place, Richard and Hannah Spencer with 5% of your vote. I reckon that's because not many people know her name, but seriously, she has been awful during this campaign. Pretty close for the top two, but the runner-up Montgomery, Tom's and Alex Phillips with 42% and the winner of today's Union Jackass with 53% to the vote.
Starting point is 01:42:47 Kelly J. Keene, who nominated Sadiq Khan. So thank you so much to my wonderful superstar panel. Today we will talk to you all soon. Always love having you on Outspoken. Thank you so much. And today's Greatest Britain, well, it had to be, didn't it? nominated by Montgomery Tom's. And it's Rupert Lowe, who he says is leading a political revolution, which finally gives us hope for our country. He says, I am beyond grateful to be a part of Restore Britain's team. So thank you so much to Montgomery and Kelly and Richard. And of course, Nick Tenconi, the UKIP leader, and Rupert Lowe, the leader of Restore Britain too.
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