Dan Wootton Outspoken - RUPERT LOWE IN SHOCK RESTORE BRITAIN SURGE AFTER NIGEL FARAGE'S REFORM UK CANCEL CRISIS

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Rupert Lowe’s Restore Britain surges in a shock new poll shaking up Westminster as Nigel Farage’s Reform UK gives into cancel culture over a gay sex joke made EIGHT YEARS ago b...y the party’s Scottish leader Malcolm Offord… Now Dan said he wasn’t offended at all by the Goddamn George Michael gag in 2018, he was backed up by Reform’s Fife candidate Linda Holt who has in the past few hours been AXED by the party. If Reform thinks they’re ever going to win over the deep state Westminster blob then they haven’t been listening to the deplorable Wes Streeting who is branding them all racist. The Superstar Panel will analyse: Britain’s political prisoner Lucy Connolly and Lauren The Insider host Lauren Lunn Farrow. PLUS: Even Labour MPs now claim that Morgan McSweeney FAKED his phone theft to try and protect Slippery Starmer. AND: The scandal behind the murder of the mother and asylum hotel worker Rhiannon Whyte deepens as Dan reveals in an Outspoken exclusive that Rhiannon’s mother was banned from bringing along the activist behind Raise the Colours to a meeting with the Home Office. Siobhan Whyte and Ryan Bridge will be here. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle and Prince Harry condemn Australian patriots in their latest PR disaster. We’re joined by NewsNation’s Paula Froelich, the star journalist behind Inside Scoop on YouTube and Substack. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 445, and we're going to kick off breaking right now, because Donald Trump has just completely skewed slippery stammer during an extraordinary cabinet rant at the White House in front of the world's media. Now, he was talking for over an hour, but in terms of the disunited kingdom, he said that we only have a, toy navy. We had the UK say that we'll send, this is three weeks ago, we'll send our aircraft carriers, which aren't the best aircraft carriers, by the way. They're toys compared to what we have. But we'll send our aircraft carrier
Starting point is 00:00:45 when the war's over. I said, oh, that's wonderful. Thank you very much. Don't bother. We don't need it. And we don't need it. We don't need them. Then, when asked by GB News,
Starting point is 00:00:58 Mrs. Bev Turner, why two-tech care wouldn't help him in the war effort, Trump made clear that the Labor Prime Minister may have single-handedly destroyed the special relationship forever. Why he was reluctant to help with Iran? He didn't have to. I didn't ask him. I just said, you tell me, no. I mean, we're always going to be there, at least we were. I don't know about it anymore, to be honest with you. I don't have to be honest. We were always there when they needed help. We always would have been there when they needed help.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I mean, think of it. We're there to protect Europe from Russia. In theory, it doesn't affect us. We have an ocean, big, fat, beautiful ocean. But we're there to protect NATO to protect them from Russia. But they're not there to protect us. It's ridiculous. It doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:01:55 So Stama has finished the special relationship. And we know why he's done this. We know the Islamist left celebrate that. But actually, given what the two-tier prime minister was saying, just a matter of months ago, this is another failure for a historically bad PM. In fact, does anyone disagree with me that this dude will go down in history as the worst British prime minister since Chamberlain?
Starting point is 00:02:25 Also breaking today, Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain surges in a show. shock new pulse shaking up Westminster as Nigel Farage's Reform UK gives into cancel culture over a gay sex joke made eight years ago by the party's Scottish leader Malcolm Offord. The homophobic joke, alleged joke by Malcolm Offert, as the leader of reform in Scotland is a warning to this country of what is coming our way. Do you think you can remain your party leader after making that kind of homophobic joke? Colin, leave me alone.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I'm going for my launch. Do you have confidence in them as your party leader? Yes, I do. The joke, as we've said, is published online. It is horrendous. All these adjectives that are being used for it, homophobic vile. In five, six weeks' time, people are going to be asked to vote for who they think they should run Scotland.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Oh, please, please, get over it. Now, after I said I wasn't offended at all by the George Michael gag in 2018, I was backed up by Reform's Fife candidate Linda Holt, who has in the past few hours been axed by the party, in part for reposting me. Now this is madness, and she's not the only one. And I'm just going to say, if Reform think they're ever going to win over the deep state Westminster blob,
Starting point is 00:03:49 then they haven't been listening to the deplorable West Streeting, who is branding them all racist. We are seeing a tide of racism in this country and a type of racism that I have never seen before as someone who was born in the 80s. It's the type of open, unapologetic racism I heard described to me as a kid from the 1970s. It is back. Reform fuel it, their politics benefit from it. So it's going to come down to a straight battle on the right between these two men. You will quietly be detained and deported end of story.
Starting point is 00:04:32 We intend to basically create a clean sweep through Parliament in order to restore common sense and logic the way in which this country is governed. After my digest, the superstar paneler here, Britain's political prisoner Lucy Connolly and Lauren the insider host, Lauren Lund Farrow. coming up on the show today, even Labor MPs now claim that Morgan McSweeney faked his phone theft to try and protect slippery Stama. The latest on the cover-up, the scandal behind the murder
Starting point is 00:05:08 of the mother and asylum hotel worker Riannon White deepens, as I can reveal in an outspoken exclusive that Riannon's mother was banned from bringing along the activist behind raised the colours to a meeting with the home office. Svonne White and Ryan Bridge will be here. And Sarah, the ex-Duchess of York, is missing. We'll reveal what's really going on with Andrew Mountbatten's ex-wife Fergie, who is shielding her and why. Then, in the Royal Uncanceled After Show, which we're going to do over on substack, Megan Markle and Prince Harry condemn Australian Patriots in their latest PR disaster.
Starting point is 00:05:44 We're joined by News Nation's Paula Frollick, the star journalist behind Inside Scoop on YouTube and substack. You can sign up to watch at www. outspoken. Now Lauren, myself and Lucy have nominated for today's worst Britain in the world. This is our union jackass. Here are the nominees. I've gone for John Swinney for suggesting Reform UK are not fit for Parliament because of a joke.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Told at a rugby club six years ago. Lauren the insider has gone for Matt Britain, the new DG of the BBC. She says while anyone in their right mind is jumping ship from the talks at BBC, he has just signed a 565,000-pound contract to be Director General. Pass me the Sick Bucket. And Lucy Connolly has nominated Marie Tidball for her hysterical, screechy rant about reform MPs leaving PMQs yesterday. Now, this is the last union jackass of the week.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Remember on Monday it was Matthew Wright, Tuesday, Matt Goodwin, Wednesday, Morgan McSweeney. So whoever wins today will go head to head to be named the worst Britain in the world, which I will announce on tomorrow's show. We'll also reveal today's greatest Britain at the end of the show too, so do stay with us, keep your feedback coming in throughout today. But now, let's go. Okay, we are literally living in the insanely dystopian world of council culture where being ordinary is enough to see your reputation, career, and livelihood destroyed.
Starting point is 00:07:16 But it's about time Nigel Farage's Reform UK stands up against this bullshit, or they're going to be swallowed by Rupert Lowe's Soaring Restore Britain, and it will serve them right. So I can't believe this has now become a national scandal. But on January the 27th, 2018, Reforms leader in Scotland, Malcolm Offord, made a fruity gay sex joke about George Michael and his troubled boyfriend Fadi Fawas. At the time, Offord wasn't even involved in politics at all. He was speaking in his capacity as the chairman. of the London Scottish Rugby Club in Richmond to Mark Burns Knight. It would be four years since that joke before he became a member of the House of Lords
Starting point is 00:08:00 and the Minister for Scotland. That was as a Conservative. It would be eight years before he became the Scottish Reform Leader ahead of these critical elections in May. But this joke, which he admitted at the time, by the way, was crude and clumsy, was not at all homophobic. Yet it is now dominating Scottish politics and has today resulted in at least one reform candidate being axed. The Scottish First Minister John Swinney of Scheminging Sturgeon's SNP, which has run that nation into the ground, and if there was any justice that party would be forever booted in May, has taken to this joke to the floor of the Scottish Parliament in Holyrood.
Starting point is 00:08:48 But the point that Mr Green raises today about the... the aspirations of politicians to come in here, and let me just speak it out loud, because I know everyone is talking about it today. The homophobic joke, alleged joke by Malcolm Offert, as the leader of reform in Scotland, is a warning to this country of what is coming our way. Because there is no place for homophobia, racism and intolerance. That's what reform represent, and we have all got to stand up against that bile in our society. Now, Mr Swinney, as far as I'm aware, you're not a gay man. Although maybe like Harry Stiles, you're pretending to be to get some sort of woke points. But I am.
Starting point is 00:09:41 It's not a big part of my life. Let me tell you, it was a joke. Nothing more. I'm not at all offended. So your woke crocodile tears are as political as they come. Welcome often has been. found out sharing completely and utterly intolerant and unacceptable material. If that's what he thinks in Fields, he's got no place, no role to perform in Scottish politics.
Starting point is 00:10:12 That is completely nothing unacceptable. I think we've got to be really careful as a country about where we're heading and reform have got no part to play in it if they represent views of intolerance, prejudice and hatred of that. It was a joke. Eight years ago. Look at what's going on in Scotland. Drug deaths out of control.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Rape gangs out of control. Poverty out of control. A disastrous health system under the SNP. Yet STV, which is basically the SNP TV channel, are now hounding reform MPs or MSPs on their lunch breaks over this goddamn joke. William Simpson, what do you make of Malcolm Hufford's comments? What do you make of his joke? Is he fit to be an MSP? Is he fit to be your party leader?
Starting point is 00:11:07 Do you think he can remain your party leader after making that kind of homophobic joke? Colin, leave me alone. I'm going, I'm going for my lunch. Do you have confidence in him as your party leader? Yes, I do. You think? So he can stay your leader despite all of this, despite the opprobrium that he's been piled on about, First Minister's questions, for example. Hey, absolutely can.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Can you believe that? It was a joke. Told eight years ago, the National decided to publish it in full. Now this is the pro-SNP newspaper, while at the same time saying that it's so offensive, it shall preclude offered from public life. Here's its idiotic political editor, Xander Elliott's getting his knickers in a real twist. The joke, as we've said, is published online. It is horrendous. All these adjectives that are being used for it, homophobic vile. In five, six weeks time, people are, going to be asked to vote for who they think they should run, should run Scotland. Just having other people's opinions on a joke, I don't think it's sufficient. You can't seriously be expected to form your opinion based entirely on Labor saying it's dreadful, the SMP saying it's dreadful. You need to know what it is and then actually have your own opinion on it. In this kind of culture that Reform UK have built around themselves, whereby it's almost conspiracy-minded,
Starting point is 00:12:31 almost tinfoil hat stuff, where it's like, the media's after us. Of course they're going to be printing hit stories. Of course they're going to be going for our leader in Scotland. Of course you're going to be hearing negative things. Because the media, the SMP, Labour, Tories, they're all part of one establishment that's against you. Reform UK, we're for you. We're here for you.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And when you have that kind of conspiratorial thinking, and then you see news stories where it's like, trust us, it's horrid, you couldn't even handle it. Like, it feeds into that reform narrative, I think. And I think people want to be able to see the truth, the fact. Just shut up. Someone made a joke.
Starting point is 00:13:21 He was drunk at a rugby club. and he made a joke. That's it. He actually regretted the joke, but that was it. So I've been watching all of this. And even though I know Reform UK throw so many good people under proverbial buses, I actually just couldn't take the insanity anymore, right? So yesterday I posted, I like Malcolm Offord more after reading his so-called homophobic joke about George Michael, which the Scottish elites say should get him cancelled and banished from public life. It was a joke years before he was reform leader, focus on drug deaths and rape gangs maybe losers. Quite sensibly, I thought that post was shared by the Fife Reform candidate, a very good woman who is desperately needed in politics
Starting point is 00:14:06 called Linda Holt. But today, after a witch hunt from the MSM, it emerged that Reform UK has failed to support her, and she has now withdrawn as a candidate. Announcing on X due to a lack of support from the party, I am withdrawing my candidacy for reform with immediate effect. I thank all those who have supported me and I wish the remaining candidates well. That's four candidates gone in a week. And it seems like the final straw was this ludicrous hit piece in the Courier newspaper. And it's about the fact that I posted this tweet and she shared it. So let me just read this at peace to you. An underfire Fife Reform UK candidate has re-shared a social media post supporting her Scottish Party leader after an emergency made a homophobic joke about George Michael.
Starting point is 00:15:00 MSP hopeful Linda Holt amplified a social media post from conservative commentator Dan Wooten who said he liked Malcolm Offord more after reading the crude joke. Ms Holt has already been the source of controversy after being picked a standard Northeast Fife laugh at Thursday. The career revealed she branded former First Minister Humsi Yusuf an Islamist moron, true, said he was not British. True, she also claimed the Scottish government was becoming a Hamas PR support act, true, while he was the SMP leader in 2023. The Korea has since seen the joke, but we have chosen not to publish it all, aren't you brave? The Korea contacted her and asked whether she agreed with Mr. Woodson's views. I'm not talking to you, she said in response
Starting point is 00:15:38 before hanging up the phone, good girl. Ms. Holt was previously, an east new counsellor until the 2022 local elections, the taxi firm co-owner was also censured by the Standards Commission in 23 for behaving in an aggressive, disparaging and dismissive manner. Now, I can tell you I've been in contact with Linda Holt today. She is in absolute bits. Absolute bits about the terrible way Reform UK has treated her. And sadly, she does believe that reposting me was the final straw for the party. How does any of this make any sense? Like Malcolm Offord is the leader. He is the leader of the party. He's staying leader. Yet she's out. It's nuts. And Reform UK is now preparing to welcome back James McMurdoch into the fold in Westminster to stop him defecting to restore Britain. Now, while I fully agree with that decision, how does it stack up with their?
Starting point is 00:16:43 their treatment of Linda. And the problem is, reform going down this path means they literally don't have enough candidates. As Sam Weber revealed, I received a call from this phone number at 2pm today asking if I wanted to be a paper candidate for reform in the local elections, and I had a similar voicemail a few months ago. I explained I was already a Lib Dem counsellor, so we'll be standing for them. And Matthew Torb, the G.B. News lefty, added, heard last week from a Westminster to lobby journalists that they had received two phone calls from reform asking if he fancy being a candidate and May what is going on. And I have to say, when I was at the Thatcher Freedom Festival in Buckingham over the weekend, I actually heard lots of evidence about this going on from actual reform members
Starting point is 00:17:29 who are being asked to stand. And the problem is, why wouldn't an ordinary person stand, given the way that Reform UK are treating their candidates? Because Linda is not the only victim this week. Chris Parry. Very good man. This dude has been dropped as a reformerial candidate and has now been subjected to an internal investigation. As Basil the Great explained, Chris previously said if David Lamy wanted reparations for the Caribbean, then he should go home. He is a British hero who fought in the Falklands War. Reform can't handle how based he is. Now his latest thought crime was appearing to compare the Jewish neighborhood watch group Shomrim to Islamists on horseback. But I have to say, I've looked at the full quote and it was completely taken out of context.
Starting point is 00:18:15 As Andrew Fox explained, I do know Dr. Chris Parry well. In person, he's a kind, decent and intellectually bright man. His record of opposing anti-Semitism and standing by the Jewish community speaks for itself far more than one poorly phrased ex post ever will. And Chris himself posted just to be clear, as I've been on the plainer, all day, I am well known for being a lifelong committed, energetic ally of Jewish people. The issue was caused by a malign reading of my attempt to respond to a tweet criticizing Jewish people. I am not prepared to accept any criticism from anti-Zionists and people who wish the Jewish people and Israel ill.
Starting point is 00:18:52 But rather than stand up to this cancel culture, I would argue Farage's party is going further down the deep state rabbit hole. With Westminster establishment outfit Politico now reporting that the party has said it is very interesting, interested in taking MI5 up on its offer to help political parties vet candidates amid fares of hostile states meddling in British politics. But as Stephen Edgington of GB News responded, the Home Office defines cultural nationalism being against immigration as far-right extremism in its counter-terrorism strategy. Outsourcing vetting to MI5 would be mad. Having only state-approved candidates in Parliament would be a very dark road for democracy. But here's the problem.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Having outsourced their vetting to hope not hate in the past, it's not really a surprise. And why this is also ridiculous is that the establishment are still absolutely as determined as ever to destroy reform UK, with Labour's Westreating, accusing the party of fuelling a tide of racism in Britain. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:20:02 We are seeing a tide of. of racism in this country and a type of racism that I have never seen before as someone who was born in the 80s. It's the type of open, unapologetic racism I heard described to me as a kid from
Starting point is 00:20:18 the 1970s. It is back. Reform, fuel it, their politics benefit from it. A completely different type of threat to who we are and what we stand for. They have the audacity to dress up nationalism
Starting point is 00:20:35 as patriotism and claim that they are the party for the working man and woman. At the same time, they are an affront to this country, its history, its heritage, its values, and its national health service. So yes, reform are a very different threat. I think they're an existential threat to this country, who we are and what we stand for, and if we can't defeat this lot, then we shouldn't be in the business of politics at all.
Starting point is 00:20:58 We're going to take them on and we're going to beat them. This lot, what an absolute scumbag you are, streetie. And that's why Reform UK can never win over these people. I mean, seriously, all Streeteen cares about is Muslim voters. That's it. Because he knows that stands between him and winning his seat at the next election. And the problem is, it's not like there's no alternative on the right to Reform UK now. With Restore Britain surging in a new poll today.
Starting point is 00:21:28 And Rupert Lowe vowing, important news, a national poll just out has put Restore Britain on an incredible 8%. We officially registered as a party less than a week ago, 120,000 plus members polling 8% historic growth. I believe that Restore Britain is going to win the next election. And actually, I've had a look at the broken down results of this Find Now poll. There's some very promising news, actually, for Restore. Here's how World by Wolf summed some of it are. percent very or somewhat likely to vote restore 10 percent with 18 to 29 year olds now in that young male age group reform is only 1 percent ahead 11 percent compared to 10 percent for restore 13
Starting point is 00:22:19 percent in the east of england 12 percent in wales 11 percent in east midlands and 23 percent of 24 reform voters and 17 percent of those who did not vote in 2024 so the idea that restore is sort of bringing new people into the fold is looking increasingly true. And I think it's now plausible to say that the battle on the right to save the country comes down to these two men. We're intending to win the next general election. Although people laugh, I believe it to be the case that we will. And once we've won, we intend to basically create a clean sweep through Parliament in order to restore common sense and logic the way in which this country is governed.
Starting point is 00:23:13 But if you come to this country illegally, you throw your documents into the English Channel so that we can't identify you. Under a reform government, it won't be a four-star hotel, it won't be three meals a day, you will, quite rightly, be detained and deported. End of story. Now, Reform UK don't know what to think about Restore Britain. There's half of them who think it's a real threat. There's another half who just say absolutely no issue.
Starting point is 00:23:46 They shrugged off. We're not worried about Restore at all. And the independent journalist Charlie Simpson, who's done a lot of good reporting of late on Reform UK, said this from inside the party. Over five weeks ago, MP Rupert Lowe launched a new right-wing party called Restore Britain. It quickly gained momentum overtaking the Lib Dems and the Tories and membership numbers in just over four weeks. The reaction behind the scenes at Reform UK HQ has been mixed and inconsistent.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I can exclusively reveal that the party intends to move further to the right in the way it conducts itself on TV. It has also coordinated smear campaigns against Restore Britain using talk TV, political commentators and elected officials to carry them out. The party has not responded to my request for comment on these allegations. I can also exclusively reveal that Reform UK is hesitant to give former Chancellor and ad deem Zahawi a party role. Reform HQ surveyed 2,500 members on whether he should be given a senior position and a whopping 65% said, no, I'm surprised it's not higher, if I'm honest. There are concerns within the party that promoting Tories, especially where it's like Zahawi will lead to more members leaving Reform UK and joining Restore Britain.
Starting point is 00:24:57 And what I can tell you for sure is that if reform keeps on cancelling Patriots, like Chris Parry, like Linda Holt, and yes, like Rupert Lowe himself, all other patriots will soon realize it's simply not the party for them. Now, the superstar panel. Lauren the insider and Lucy Connolly with me live. Now Lucy, I'm very interested in your view on this because, of course, you have appeared as a special guest at the Reform UK conference, but you've also appeared as a pair of at a parliamentary debate as the guest of Rupert Lowe.
Starting point is 00:25:41 So I guess you've got a foot in each camp. How do you feel about the fact that Linda Holt seems to have been axed as a candidate in part for reposting me? And my tweet was actually supporting Malcolm Offord, the Scottish leader. I mean, reform shouldn't be doing this sort of cancel culture with its own people, should it? No, I do not and will never support council culture, Dan. You know that. I don't know the ins and outs of this story. I guess we'd have to get with, you know, reforms side of the story as well.
Starting point is 00:26:23 But it seems to me that they're going down the route of this. Oh, we've found something from years ago that you said, you know, what's the difference between that and the press coming after Nigel, for example, because he allegedly said all this nonsense when he was four at school or whatever it was. We can't carry on with this culture of, you know, you've said something that's offended somebody, so we're going to ruin your life and take your livelihood away. I don't, I will never support that. You know, perhaps some of the things, some of them said were, you know, bad taste.
Starting point is 00:26:58 And they apologize, they, you know. Eight years ago. Eight years ago. That's the level we're now at. And this is literally dominating the politics of Scotland. It's what the journalists are focusing on. And Lauren, this is why I really worry about Reform UK constantly giving into this, because I don't think they realize the genuine threat,
Starting point is 00:27:28 how much the deep state is determined. And by the way, the media is part of that, the mainstream media is part of this, determined to stop them with sort of non-scandals like this, like a joke told eight years ago. It's absolutely ridiculous. To put this into perspective as well, there are 40,000 homeless people in Scotland
Starting point is 00:27:49 and 10,000 children in temporary accommodation. So these clowns are wasting time and money talking about a tweet that was eight years old. At the end of the day, Nigel came out and said, you know, things that were attributed to him were schoolboy banter and it was not to be taken seriously. The problem is, reform playing into cancel culture. It just keeps proving how establishment they are. And I'm sorry, but anyone that thinks reform hold the power to change things, they are just actors and they are, I believe, as much deep state as the rest of them.
Starting point is 00:28:33 because every kind of month that goes by, they just keep showing their true colours more and more. This is woke nonsense. At the end of the day, do we really want to be living in a society that's policing tweets that we're eight years old? This is insanity. And then we see these new poll numbers, Lucy.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And I mean, it is pretty extraordinary stuff. Like, look at this. With zoomers, who I think, think there was a real suggestion they would all end up with Farage on the right. I mean, how depressing, by the way, 41% going for the Greens. But when you come and look at the right-wing vote, completely split, like 11% for reform, 10% for restore. And that actually does fit with what I'm sort of hearing out there, which is that young people actually are becoming more right-wing and don't want the sort of weak source forage politics.
Starting point is 00:29:34 They actually love the fact that Rupert Lowe is telling it as it is. Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to pussyfoot around. I have heard the same. I know lots of youngsters that are very pro-Rupert and they're looking to, you know, get involved in setting up local branches and things like that. I think that this is only actually a good thing for reform because there's another party now to hold them to account.
Starting point is 00:30:02 They can't be complacency. Complacency is never good. And, you know, this just will make sure that they are, you know, kicking back on things. You know, if we store challenging them, that can only do a good thing, in my opinion. You know, the likes of you and I, we don't care what Labour has to say or all the Conservatives anymore. You know, they don't, they're not the opposition. They're no longer the opposition. So I think it can only be a good thing that there's somebody holding reform to account and, you know, keeping them on their toes.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah, indeed. Indeed. I do think that needs to happen. And it is interesting because if you just look at this, Bridget Phillips and I showed some of it in the Digest, wrote this horrible post about James McDowoc, who we all know went to prison when he was 18. And Bridget Phillipsham said, Reform UK said I was bullying when I pointed out their colleague was jailed for beating up as former partner. Now they're trying to sneak him back into the party. So I'll say it again, James and Murdoch was jailed for beating up as former partner when he was 18. He's since gone on, served his time, had a family, had children. And he has now responded to Phillipson. So when I first graduated and started life in the grown-up world, I was taken out for lunch by a senior manager at the firm I just joined. This was my first client-facing role and was a big step forward for me.
Starting point is 00:31:25 The senior gave me a piece of advice that I've never forgotten. He said, never try and close a deal by bad-mouthing the competition. It just brings the whole industry into distribute. The more experienced I get, the more I realize how right he was. Bridget never has the chance to get this type of advice because the only job she had was a few years working for her mum's charity. Now the country is stuck with the Secretary of State who knows nothing about the world she's in charge of,
Starting point is 00:31:47 and I'm stuck with a colleague whose best shot at advancing herself is by putting out comments like the one below. Say LaVie. Thank you to everyone who has come out back. for me, I'll keep on keeping on. And Lucy, you have publicly supported James Mitt Murdoch today. Yeah, I think James is a good MP. Overall, I know he's got, you know, I'm not defending what he may or may have not done in the past. But I don't know the full story, you know, as I've said many a time, having been to prison, I know that nothing is ever as black and white as it seems and everybody has
Starting point is 00:32:22 their own story to tell. And also, how long do we hold something against somebody? You know, this was, again, a long time ago. I understand James has remarried and got his own new, lots of young children, his own new family now. And he looks like he's a great father and a partner. So we can't hold this sort of stuff against everybody forever, surely. Surely at one point, we have to say that person made a mistake. But let's move on from that. I'm not going to pussyfoot around, okay? I am sick of all the people pussyfooting around on this story. I do not believe for a single second
Starting point is 00:33:02 that Morgan McSweeney is telling the truth about his stolen mobile phone. I think he's faking it. And I think this is a huge cover-up to try and protect slippery stammer because McSweeney is well aware that the message on his phone in regards to the appointment of Peter Mandelson could finish the Prime Minister. Because nothing about this story makes sense. Nothing about it makes sense. In the phone call itself, McSweeney gives into a lie in terms of the location of where the so-called
Starting point is 00:33:44 mugging took place. He doesn't point out to the police officer the significance of his role. Oh, and by the way, when the police tried to contact him twice the next day, he said nothing. He didn't pick up his goddamn phone. Now, Reform UK is having some fun with this, posting this AI image on X, saying Britain is lawless, just ask Morgan McSweeney. And that is one of the most shocking parts of this. It's no longer a horrible, weird thing for you to be mugged and said, central London, but I think McSweeney is hiding behind that. And I have to give huge credit to the Labour Party MPs and the Labour Party supporters who have been prepared to speak out and tell the truth on this,
Starting point is 00:34:35 like the MP, Carl, Good on you, Carl. I don't believe McSwindle had his iPhone stolen. Like Rosie Duffield, former Labor MP. Is there anyone in Westminster who believes this phone containing potential Damming messages mysteriously went missing was stolen. I have yet to meet them. There's some critics too. Like Julia Hartley Brewer, who rightly pointed out, everyone continues to report that McSweeney told the police's phone
Starting point is 00:35:05 had been snatched by a balaclava-clad man on a bike. There is no mention of a balaclava and the police transcript of his call to the report the crime, and she went further on Talk TV today. This is looking horribly like a cover-up. I would say this is looking horribly like obstructive. of justice or perverted the course of justice, serious criminal offences. Now, there was lots of time to plot this cover-up, by the way, and Politico has reported today that the Prime Minister slipped out of Downing Street to have a bear with McSweeney,
Starting point is 00:35:42 weeks after he quit No. 10 Downing Street. The private Chenwag at an undisclosed location was in late February or early March, days before McSweeney's leaving due. It just gets worse, by the way, too. But at least Richard Bergen, the far-left Labour MP, is also prepared to challenge this. He has now submitted formal parliamentary written questions and says, given the serious impact this could have
Starting point is 00:36:12 on getting the truth about the Mandelson scandal and even on the Labour-Together scandal, we need the answers. So he has written to the minister for the cabinet office and posed these questions. whether and when the PM's former Chief of Staff reported the theft of his mobile phone to the Cabinet Secretary, what his department's policy is on staff reporting the loss and theft of mobile devices and whether that policy was followed for the theft of the Chief of Staff's mobile phone, what the Cabinet Office policy is on the backup and retention of messages on official mobile devices,
Starting point is 00:36:39 what assessment he has made with the potential impact of the theft on national security. Nadim Zahawi of Reform UK has gone one step further, though, and said if the Prime Minister knew about this, and Morgan must have had to tell him, then he must resign. This is a massive national security breach. So can you believe the one person who the PM has decided to sit down with today is Beth Rigby of Sly News? And Beth, who used to go around the world hounding Boris Johnson, if you remember, she doesn't think this is a scandal at all. She literally just asked him one question right at the end, a little throwaway question right at the end.
Starting point is 00:37:19 of their softball chat. And she didn't follow this up at all. Watch. And just finally, critics say that the theft and botched investigation of your former chief of staff Morgan McSweeney's phone stinks of a cover-up. Can you understand why people are suspicious about his phone being stolen just before,
Starting point is 00:37:42 just as the Manderson scandal was unfolding? Well, the phone was stolen. It was reported to the police. There's a transcript of the call in which Morgan McSweeney gives his name, his date of birth, the details of the phone, and the police confirmed that it was reported. Unfortunately, there are thefts like this. It was stolen, it was reported at the time, and the police have acknowledged and confirmed that that is what happened.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And the idea that somehow everybody could have seen that sometime in the future, there would be a request for the phone is, to my mind, a little bit far-fetched. Liar, lie a lie, sorry, I've got to calm down. He makes me so mad. Dan Hodges, watched that and posted, I've just spoken to a former government advisor who confirmed that over the autumn recess, a meeting was held in which the question was specifically raised. What if they come for Morgan's messages? This meeting was held before the theft of McSweeney's Mobile. We don't know for certain what happened to McSweeney's Mobile, but after his interview this morning, we know this for certain. Kirstama is deliberately lying about McSweeney's mobile.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Stama is well aware that his team held meetings specifically to pull together a strategy for dealing with a scenario where McSweeney's messages were asked for by Parliament. He's aware those meetings were held before the theft of the mobile, yet he's pretending the opposite. He had more to say on talk. In all of this, it's this morning. The Cabinet's office and I quote Dan going, we found some of them. This, you labelled yesterday as Starmer's Watergate, this stinks to high heaven, doesn't it, pal?
Starting point is 00:39:25 Nobody wants to talk about anything else on this show this morning. No, it does, and the thing about this is obviously every time a minister or anybody goes on to TV on TV to try and explain the mystery of the missing mobile, it kicks the story on. And in fact, I mean, you've touched on a good point that Downing Street is claiming some messages. have been found. I mean, that's not actually a particularly new story. We know they're in position of some messages, in particular, I think, emails. But obviously the issue is not what messages they do have and they are going to provide. It's the ones that they're holding back or the ones that have mysteriously disappeared.
Starting point is 00:40:09 But once again, you know, and I said this last time I was on the program, was on again last week, this morning we've now, for the first time, got Kier's, Starrma personally, you know, commenting on this issue. And once again, and I'm sorry to say it, Kier Starrma is lying through his teeth. I mean, it's damning. He is a Labour columnist, remember. Dan Hodges is not someone on the right. Now we have recreated the key moment in McSweeney's phone call with the police, just to show you how he quite clearly is lying and misleading about his location. His phone was lost in Westminster,
Starting point is 00:40:52 yet he gives the wrong street name, meaning the call handler is talking about a park in Stepney, which is in the East End, miles and miles and miles away, a completely different part of London. And when the call handler does that, Sweeney nods along and says,
Starting point is 00:41:09 yeah, watch. Police, what's your emergency? Oh, hello. Someone just robbed my phone. Did they actually take it? from you just now. Yeah. How did they get away? So he's on a bike. He's come onto the pavement to grab my phone and cycled off on a bike. And where did this happen? It happened in Belgrave Street in Westminster. And whose phone are you using now? I've got two phones, I'm using my personal one. That was my work one. Thank you. And you said Belgrave Street,
Starting point is 00:41:37 yeah? Um, yeah, just kind of going back to the location. And which way did they go towards this suspect on a bike? He went, he tried, he tried, I saw him for a few blocks. So where were you when you last saw him? Have you got any idea? Um, yeah. So... Did you get up to Stepney?
Starting point is 00:41:57 Let me tell you where I got to. I'm just going back to where I can. So he turned right... Sorry, he turned left. There's a park on top of the road and he turned left there. Stepney Green Park, okay? Yeah, he turned left there. Can you remember anything about his appearance?
Starting point is 00:42:12 Yeah, he was young, he was a black guy, he was on a bike. Have you got a... tracker on the phone at all. I do. It's a government phone. And it's your work phone. What kind of phone is it? It's an iPhone. The MSM are letting the government to get away with murder on this.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Look at the Defence Secretary, John Haley, completely fail on Sly News this morning. The Prime Minister's Chief of Staff, former Chief of Staff, Morgan Mitsweeney, had his phone stolen, which means we can't see the messages that he sent or may have sent to Peter Mandelson.
Starting point is 00:42:46 What was the security protocol if a government phone like that is stolen. I mean, you must be very across this. I know that he's called the police, but you'd think there'd be a bit more of an internal security process as well? Well, I think we've all either had or know somebody who's had their phone stolen, and what I understand Morgan McSweeney did was reported immediately to the police. We're not all the chief of staff of the Prime Minister there, well, we?
Starting point is 00:43:13 That's the difference, right? So the, well, but he reported it to the police. The police have undertaken the investigations, I guess, that they need to take. And as far as I'm aware, all the proper protocols have been followed. If you had your phone stolen, you know, as Defence Secretary, I feel like there would be a pretty thorough security process, wouldn't they? Well, I mean, I have to take, especially, I spend most of the day actually without my phone because I'm operating in areas which I just can't have electronic devices.
Starting point is 00:43:47 So, in fact, I find myself using a phone and carrying a phone much less than I ever done before than this job. Totally irrelevant. This is a cover-up. Daniel Hannan says it's usually the cover-up rather than the offence that brings you down. Call it the Watergate principle. It may all be an innocuous coincidence, but Stama must know after the loss happened. Sorry, Stama must know the loss happened after No. 10 officials had to scumma. the possibility of MPs demanding to see texts. And this whole thing is now smacking of a massive cover-up, by the way, because Stephen Swinford, political editor of the Times who has been across this story, has just revealed now that Lord Mandelson has not been asked to hand
Starting point is 00:44:31 over WhatsApp messages or texts from his personal phone amid mounting concern about the limited nature of the government disclosures. To the superstar panel. Lucy Connolly and Lauren the insider, Lauren, this is a cover-up of epic proportions, isn't it? And the mainstream media are currently allowing Stama to get away with this. First up, Beth Rigby is pathetic. Yep. Absolutely pathetic.
Starting point is 00:45:02 The fact she calls herself a journalist. She is a propaganda mouthpiece and shame on her, you know, every single time. She should be advocating for patriots with that microphone. Every time she gets in front of the camera, she's just part of the establishment. So let's rule her out. She's pointless. Secondly, the Labour government are organised crime. It's so clear to see.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I'm offended. They think we are all that stupid. And secondly, what would you do if you were trying to create a story and a paper trail that matched your story? You wouldn't be putting things in writing. Of course you'd file a police report. That listening to the police call, that to me does not sound convincing, in my opinion. And of course you're going to say, oh, it was someone in a balaclava, because what do we know?
Starting point is 00:45:57 People are nicking phones wearing balaclavas all around London day in, day out. Lucy Connolly, do you believe that this phone was stolen? It's like Jack Anori, isn't it? No, I don't. I don't believe it was stolen. I think it's absolute nonsense. And even if it was stolen, it's an iPhone, it can be backed up. The messages that were sent between the two people, why can't you get them from the other person's end? It's kind of irrelevant whether it was stolen or not. There are still many ways they can get those messages back. But it's like, oh no, it's been stolen. We can't, we can't possibly disclose those messages now. I mean,
Starting point is 00:46:39 And I think we're stupid. Well, obviously they do, don't they? They do. It is an absolute cover-up. It is a total disgrace. And I think increasingly, it is now impossible to trust a word that the Prime Minister says. And shame on the mainstream media for being so slow on this story. Breaking today, the scandal behind the murder.
Starting point is 00:47:09 of the young mother and asylum hotel worker Riannon White deepens. As I can reveal in an outspoken exclusive that Riannon's mother, Chauvin White, was banned from bringing Ryan Bridge, the activist behind the brilliant organisation raised the colours, to a meeting with a minister at the home office. Now, Chauvin, having written and been ignored by the Prime Minister Slippery Stama, was invited to speak with Alex Norris. He works for Shibana MacMood as the Minister of State for Border Security and Asylum,
Starting point is 00:47:50 and he's done a pretty goddamn shit job. Chauvin confirmed, as is her right, that she would be bringing along Ryan with her to the meeting, as a friend and for moral support. But then the Home Office said that Ryan would no longer be allowed to accompany her, to the meeting, stating that sometimes they need to put in place reasonable restrictions on who the minister meets, and that is one of those occasions. They asked Chauvon, remember a woman who is absolutely grieving after the loss of the wonderful
Starting point is 00:48:28 Riannon who was stabbed 23 times by this monster, if she would like to bring anyone else with her. Chauvonne declined as banning her friend without any clear explanation made her feel uncomfortable and she has refused to meet the minister as a result. They're going public on this for the first time today, here on outspoken, and it is an absolute pleasure to have Chavon White of the Rianan White Foundation and Ryan Bridge of Raise the Colors with us now. So, Chavon, great to see you.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Do you believe that this meeting request was made to you by the Home Office Minister Alex Norris, given your very powerful email requesting a meeting with Slippery Stama, which I know you believe has been ignored by him? Yeah, I think he felt like he had to reach out. But again, as I explained this morning, I won't be dictated to. Nor should you. So what else do I do? nor should you
Starting point is 00:49:36 and so so so they initially said that you could bring whoever you want but when you said that it was Ryan
Starting point is 00:49:44 who was coming with you they came back and said no yeah they they accepted his name and then literally on Wednesday morning or afternoon
Starting point is 00:49:54 I received an email to say that Ryan wasn't welcome Ryan Ryan obviously you'll raise the colours organisation has
Starting point is 00:50:05 received attention, shall we say, from the French and British authorities. You have been visited by police, but you are absolutely confident in the fact that you have done nothing illegal, and you've basically said to the authorities, bring it on. Do you think you were banned from the home office for political reasons? I 100% think it's for political reasons. I just want to say thanks for having us on and thanks for giving us the voice. Over the past, God, many months now, myself and Chavon have become good friends. We've had some ups and downs and we've got each other through our own journeys that we're doing.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And this is something that just fitted in with Ryan and Chavon to go and do. We was in London last week seeing various people, which went well. and it's just a, you know, a normal, friendly piece of support. And I feel what's happened to us over in France where the French government have banned us for no reason. I feel that I feel that the British lackeys are literally, the police have come to my door and handed me something to say I'm banned from going to France.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I've not been arrested. I've not been convicted. And we are appealing that. And it looks quite promising at the moment. They're looking for mediation. so they're not asking us to go to court, they want to mediate with us. So that's positive.
Starting point is 00:51:35 But for me, for the British yet again, so not only let me down and people who follow us raise the colours, this is separate, this is me helping a friend. And at the end of the day, I feel that the British Home Office,
Starting point is 00:51:49 I feel the British government first are the ones that are letting us all down. And then, obviously, they've been given the job by the Home Office, and the Home Office are now saying that I can't attend. but anyone else can and not giving a reason for it and I believe that that's because they don't want to
Starting point is 00:52:04 answer the questions that they know I'm going to have. Totally. I mean, I spoke to you both this morning about this and, Chavonne, I've been thinking about it and it's almost as if the government would be okay if you were prepared to be one of those victims who wasn't political. Do you know what I mean? Like, open a park, here's a big,
Starting point is 00:52:28 bench, but you're doing so much more than that, Chavon, and I absolutely support what you and your family are doing. So I'll sit quiet and stay done. Yes. And they don't like it. And like I said, I have got a big family. I have got a lot of friends. But to me, Ryan, you know, offered to came along, you know, come along with support. And it's his belief that why shouldn't he have the flags up for his own country and first and foremost it was as a friend yeah of course to be refused i won't be dictated to down at all now and you shouldn't be and and the thing is right we have to make political change like there is absolutely no point in you being fobbed off by some junior minister they need to know that it is this is political because and we don't mention his name around you and i
Starting point is 00:53:24 totally respect that, Chauvonne. But the absolute monster who murdered Riannan, it is just worth reminding everyone, Chavon, because of course, more and more people are coming to your story by the day, because remember the mainstream media covered this up, they didn't want this to be a big story for a long time. So it is just worth reminding people, Chavon, how long had the monster been in the UK and how had the monster entered the UK? People need to know. 11 weeks and a small boat But he was refused to sign him in Italy and Germany Before he came here
Starting point is 00:54:00 And we were paying for him to stay in this hotel Where your daughter worked and he murdered I mean Yeah It's unbelievable Sorry Ryan The bottom line is this guy Surve circumnavigated himself
Starting point is 00:54:13 Through the NGOs Through the far left Got himself from South Sudan All the way up through Africa, over Libya, into Greece, into Italy, failed asylum in Italy, got to Germany. We know he was, we know he was, um, arrested in Germany. He was, yeah, he got arrested in Germany, all the way to France. He was in Calais, jumps on a dinghy, gets across.
Starting point is 00:54:37 We're giving three meals a day, a hotel, and beautiful Rianan was looking after this guy and never went home from work that day. And things like that, the government have got to answer for. And if we're a voice that, I mean, we're friends now, first and foremost, but if we're a voice that people like, like Chavon, want to turn to, and the government want to silence us, I'm a businessman. I'm not doing anything illegal. I'm not doing anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I just don't believe this is right, whether it's your daughter, aren't it, whoever it might have been a man or woman. It's not right for these people, these monsters who we don't know what they've got. We on the day of the court case, for Chavon to come out and tell me, oh, it's going to cost us X amount now to keep him in a jail in the UK for the next 30-odd years. And we've left to pay for his HIV treatment. The guys come over on a boat. It's got HIV, which, you know, people can track that.
Starting point is 00:55:31 But we need to be testing and we need to be vetting these people. And they're not safe. I know. I know. And the problem is how, I mean, unfortunately, I've spoken to other parents who have had their children. murdered by illegal immigrants. And how many more are we going to allow? How many more are we going to allow?
Starting point is 00:55:53 Exactly. And I think now it's come to the stage of, they don't really want to talk to me. They just want to sit quiet and, you know, make out they actually care when they don't. So they're going to try and silence me, Dan, as they do they be rid of them. And you're not going to be silenced.
Starting point is 00:56:09 And thank God you're not. And actually, I want to bring in Lauren the insider and Lucy Connolly now to other people who will not be silenced on our superstar panel today. Lucy, you're another one who will not be silenced. You didn't take what Stama's government did to you lying down. You are now one of the biggest thorn in his sides. Do you respect what Chavon is doing in terms of saying,
Starting point is 00:56:37 I am not going to let this government set the agenda? 100%. And Chavon, can I start by saying, I'm so very sorry. I'm so very sorry that you lost your beautiful girl and that you're now sentenced to a lifetime of grief because that's exactly what it was. You know, from one grieving mother to another, I get it. But yeah, massive respect to you.
Starting point is 00:56:57 And it's so easy after you've lost a child, the grief is so consuming. It would be so easy to just roll over and accept, you know, what's gone on. But it, you know, you're now dealing with your grief, you know, and you've got this fight And it's exhausting, isn't it? It's absolutely exhausting.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Fighting these people constantly as well as dealing with your grief. So, yeah, I 100% support you and, you know, anything I can do to help. And I wish you so much, you know, luck with getting answers. That's what you need, isn't it? Accountability and answers. Lauren, you know just how corrupted and morally reprehensible this government is. But can you believe that slippery stammer has literally ignored Chauvon? I mean, he meets other grieving parents.
Starting point is 00:57:52 You know, if it's someone who was trans or claims that they were trans and was murdered, he meets their parents, but he won't meet Chavon. Yeah, well, Chavon, I just want to start by saying, I can't imagine what you've gone through. And you have got a space on my channel anytime you want, because you should not have lost your daughter. and we need to rally around you. I mean, you're being gaslit
Starting point is 00:58:18 and you're being bullied by the establishment that your daughter should still be here. Get these fucking illegals out, and I'm sorry to swear, but they are not, they're not assimilating. And at the end of the day, there will be more lives lost like your daughter, Chavon. And so you can have the logins to my YouTube.
Starting point is 00:58:39 You've got a platform, because the more they try and silence you, the more you're doing something right. And I have no doubt everyone at outspoken will get behind you now because you should not be having to do this alone. We should be living in a country where the illegals are treated like illegals and you are being treated like a criminal. Yeah, I am all because I want answers basically.
Starting point is 00:59:08 and again it's dictatorship when it came to Ryan. Like I said, I could have took a family member but because they deliberately said, no, not Ryan, I went against it and said, you're not dictating to me and that's it. I mean, the only way I can do it now was to keep fighting. The government are so cruel and they are so manipulative. If they have someone that will fit the narrative,
Starting point is 00:59:34 and we say this all the time, but it's true, then oh there's a bench. No, we don't want a bench. We want our women and we want our children alive and we want them safe. The problem they have with you is you're telling the real story and the real story is the story they don't want out there.
Starting point is 00:59:52 They can control the mainstream media. They can bury this. They can't silence you. They can't silence outspoken viewers. They can't silence me and Lucy. And I am going to make it my mission to get your story and your foundation out as much as I can because it's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Thank you. Amazing. Amazing. And there is so much support from outspoken viewers today. I mean, I'm just looking at the live chat right now. Chauvin, uh, gaming anime says, I'm so sorry. Lost your child. May she rest in peace.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Trinity 9365 says, Chavon, we support you. Ali, 50 says, Patriots. We need to stand together. We want the same thing. We've got to stop what's happening to the same. great country which is dying god bless you s r y says chavon is amazing and she must stand her ground tessa broad says this lazy lady is amazing so a huge amount of support coming in chavon and how can
Starting point is 01:00:52 people support the ryanne and white foundation well i was talking about it's there with my sister and you know it's through all and myself and amy we're going to do the Obviously, the fundraising set up little boxing matches for kids and hopefully get football matches set up and everything we can do to involve children. Because it's about children. Everything we can do is to promote it and get it out for the children and get it widespread as far as we possibly can. Amazing. Amazing. And look, if people do want to learn more about what exactly happened to Rihannon, I have. recorded a very special edition of Outspoken with Chauvonne White. We're face to face and she bravely
Starting point is 01:01:45 recounts the entire story. It is a harrowing watch, but very, very important. And as I said, during that interview, we're going to continue to support Chavon's fight and we absolutely will here on outspoken. And it's also so brilliant to have Ryan Bridge actually on from raising the colors because I've been watching what Ryan has been doing over the past few months. And it does seem very clear that there is sort of a government attempt now to shut him down and how ludicrous, because this is a patriotic organisation. So Chauvonne White, Ryan Bridge, we will be speaking much more to you in the weeks and months to come. Breaking right now, Sarah Ferguson, the former Duchess of York, has gone missing. And
Starting point is 01:02:35 indeed it is now at the point where outspoken is issuing this formal notice to help us find Fergie. Because what has been revealed overnight by the establishment daily mail columnist Sarah Vine formerly married to the Tory Minister Michael Gove is that Fergie is now being shielded, protected and paid for by really. and powerful friends who she has accumulated over the years. Now, that's fine. As long as we receive a public statement, which we have not had from Sarah Ferguson, confirming that she will indeed cooperate with the British police investigation into her ex-husband,
Starting point is 01:03:29 who she always supported and claimed never did anything wrong, Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, and that if required, she will travel back to the United Kingdom to be interviewed by the police, if required. But at this point, what we have is total radio silence and a very clear effort in the mainstream media to rehabilitate Fergie, to make us feel sorry for Fergie, for us to believe that Fergie is actually just a good woman who didn't really try and sell her husband to the fake shake for 500,000 pounds, who didn't really take her two princess daughters to meet a child sex trafficker just a couple of days after his release from prison? No, no, no, it's kind and gentle Fergie.
Starting point is 01:04:14 We need to find this woman, okay? Because she is a big part in whether there is ever justice in this case. And as I have always said, by the way, If Andrew and Fergie have done nothing wrong, then just speak to the authorities in the United Kingdom and the United States. It's simple. It's simple. It's a really easy way to clear this up. Let me take you through exactly what Sarah Vine has revealed because she's boasting about this in the Daily Mail saying, I know the secret behind Fergie's disappearance and exactly why no one can find her. And she went on, What I do know about her, however, is that unlike Andrew who cuts a sad, lonely figure abandoned by all who once knew him and dependent on the kindness of his brother,
Starting point is 01:05:05 who is not so secretly furious with him, Fergie still has a close coterie of friends on whom she can rely. How else would she have remained so efficiently hidden? Some might say shielded from public view all these months. She's more elusive than the scarlet pimper, or harder to track down than Lord Luke, and she is when you think about it. the most famous missing person in the UK.
Starting point is 01:05:29 And yet she hasn't been photographed once, despite the best efforts of His Majesty's press. She wasn't even spotted during her final flight from Royal Lodge. Those players on Celebrity Hunter could certainly learn a thing or two from her. What's her secret, simple good mates? Someone as recognisable as Fergie doesn't remain that well-hidden without some serious backup funds and transport and the generosity of friends. So why does she inspire such loyalty? It's not as though stripped of her titles and royal connections
Starting point is 01:05:58 ostracized by her charities, cancelled by her publisher, penniless, homeless and a social prize. She has anything less to offer them. And yet personally, I know of at least two people who have stepped up to help and I'm told there are plenty more. I asked one of them a good friend of mine too, why? And she said quite simply, it's because she is a very loyal friend. She never forgets a birthday, always sends a present, nothing flash, just kind and sweet. and thoughtful. The only people who don't like her are the ones who haven't really met her. She is generous to a fault, and it is a fault. She would give you her last fiver, which is probably why she is in this mess in the first place. Whatever else Sarah Ferguson may be, there is no doubt that she has always been a survivor, the kind of woman who picks herself up, dust herself down,
Starting point is 01:06:46 and gets back on the horse. Until it transpires that she has some kind of criminal case to answer, I can see her making a comeback. A book would seem the most likely course of action telling her side of the whole sordered story. Who knows? Maybe that's what she's working on at this very moment in whichever borrowed bedroom she happens to be in. But one thing's for sure. For better or worse, I very much doubt we've seen the last of her. And we haven't seen the last of Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, either, by the way.
Starting point is 01:07:18 He has been spotted in a range rover with a missing. tree woman in the back seat as he visited his new home in Sandrineum to my superstar panel, Lucy Connolly and Lauren the insider. So Lauren, you have obviously devoted a lot of very tough coverage to Andrew Mountbatten Windsor and to an extent Fergie 2. What do you make of this rehabilitation effort which is already going on? And surely at the very least what we need to be demanding of Fergie is full accountability and a full concession that she will come back and that this disappearing act isn't a permanent way to potentially evade police. Because how do we know if she's not telling us?
Starting point is 01:08:10 Well, I believe we're looking at a cover-up. I do not think that the royals adhere to the same rulebook as any of us or the same judiciary. At the end of the day, MI5, we'll know where Sarah Ferguson is. is the mother to Pointless Princess One and Pointless Princess Two. And she, by all accounts, from many people within very connected high society circles, they say she's worse than Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. Sarah Ferguson leaching off rich people is nothing new.
Starting point is 01:08:46 And I can only assume the reason she's still being hosted is because she wasn't behaving badly alone. She's consistent. I'll give her that. She consistently shows disgraceful behaviour. She has had millions and millions of pounds. Go through her bank account. Where is this money going? Because she's very like Megan Markle. She doesn't pay for a lot herself, does she? She knows to call to get a private jet and she knows who has a house that she can stay in. And Rob Schueter believes that she's staying with Priscilla Presley. But Sarah Ferguson isn't friends with normal people like us. There's always an exchange of something.
Starting point is 01:09:30 She either wants money, power or influence. She's disgusting. I am not buying. I don't give two hoots about her mental health. If anyone is on the fence regarding Sarah Ferguson, just have a look on YouTube for the video of her slamming victims, gaslighting people, and trying to humiliate these victims that had accusations.
Starting point is 01:09:57 She's a vile, vile woman. 100%. Because that interview, now, if you look at it, I mean, it was one of many, but I know the clip you're talking about, she claims that this was all just an elaborate stitch-up. Lucy Connolly, where do you think Fergie is? I've no idea, but nor have I, under any illusion that she's some sweet, lovely, generous lady.
Starting point is 01:10:28 She was involved with a child trafficker, for Christ's sake. You know, like, Lord knows what these people were, were actually involved in it. I mean, I know that it's all speculation at this point, but she's not a nice lady, is she? She was involved with these type of people. She covered up Andrew's disgusting behaviour for years. And in my opinion, is in as deep, if not deeper, than he is. Yeah, I mean, the thing is, Lauren, a lot of this was morally reprehensible anyway. I mean, certainly Fergie is the one who has dragged her two daughters into this.
Starting point is 01:11:07 And as a mother, Lauren, which you are, surely that should bring you a lot of shame. and she needs to be publicly apologising. And the other thing is, Lauren, surely if she really was this great mother like all of her friends claim she is, she would have come out publicly now and taken the hit and said, look, this is on me.
Starting point is 01:11:27 I forced Betris and Eugenie to come and meet Epstein when they were 21 and 19. This is on me as their mother. But instead, she has let them take the flag. Now, personally, Lauren, I'm not one of these people that has all of this sympathy for Betris and Eugeny. I know that splits people in this community.
Starting point is 01:11:44 I think at that point they were old enough to ask the correct questions and take some responsibility for that meeting themselves. But I do think the fact that Fergie has effectively hung them out to dry when it comes to this show she's actually not a great mother, if I'm honest. I agree with you, but I would say they haven't released statements either. You know, how long are we giving these girls? They're not girls. See, this is the thing. We always say they're girls. aren't they? You read everywhere. They're adults. They're not. They're adults, they're mothers,
Starting point is 01:12:18 their wives. I've not seen statements from either of them. All I keep seeing is performative PR and quite frankly it's not washing anymore. You know, they, they are continuing to behave in this way. Wasn't it one of the princesses was on the verge of a breakdown and went skiing to start? You know, starts one of the most expensive places in the world. They are all entitled. And quite frankly, I am sick of these one percenters taking a different approach, you know, adhering to different rules. I don't want to live in a two-tier society.
Starting point is 01:12:58 I don't want to live where my children are at a disadvantage because they're not blue blood. And all I keep seeing is they do just enough to get by and think we'll sweep it under the rug. But we won't. And at the end of the day, when those women went to New York to see Epstein when he was released from prison as a sex offender, we've got to ask bigger questions because we, the taxpayer, unbeknown to us,
Starting point is 01:13:26 we paid for the Met to accompany those women and Sarah Ferguson. So not only do we have members of the royal family, being Sarah, Andrew Eugenie Beatrice, who have shocking judgments and keep, awful, disgusting company. But we also have a police force that are embroiled in this, I would argue. And still, they think they can just fob us off by going into hiding. There's no accountability. At this point, Dan, I'm afraid anything we see, you have to discount it. Because if they truly, truly thought what they had done was wrong or they had
Starting point is 01:14:09 something to say, they would have come out by now. So it just shows their true colours. Yeah, it is astonishing. Speaking of people showing their true colours, have you heard about this petition, this massive petition, which is absolutely garnering huge support in Australia. It's effectively fed up Aussies saying, Harry and Megan are coming to visit us. This must not take any of our public money. And Milo Unopoulos posted on this saying how many things have to go wrong, for a person to find themselves issuing public condemnations of their own unpopularity. And it's because Harry and Megan had the cheek, Lauren, to release a statement condemning this petition, saying it's a moot point that Trip has been privately funded.
Starting point is 01:15:00 So I'm not sure what this petition hopes to achieve. And it's like, this is actually something you should be taking very seriously. You shouldn't be condemning the petition. You should be really looking at the fact, oh my God, even the Australians realize that you're all about the grift. And given that you're asking British taxpayers to fund your private security, why on earth would Australians not think
Starting point is 01:15:22 you were going to do the same thing with them? Well, everything about their funding is just one big grey area, isn't it? Philanthropy, charity, and we never really know who's footing the bill. And we won't get transparency and the truth with this. But good on Australia. I think this is brilliant.
Starting point is 01:15:43 And you know what? More and more people are going to sign this. And they're getting a taste of reality here and they don't like it. Megan Markle can switch her Instagram comments off. She can get People magazine to send three questions, you know, three months in advance. She'll likely change numerous times before then emailing back propaganda answers. But we see you, Popit, and we don't want you. And Australia don't want you either. So I would urge as many people to sign this as possible.
Starting point is 01:16:13 I think it's wonderful. Lucy, how do you feel about this petition? Do you blame the Australians for being very concerned? No, I don't. You know, why would they want their money to fund any security for Megan and Harry? As far as I'm concerned, the pair of them are just irrelevant now. They've left the country. They're no longer part of the royal family.
Starting point is 01:16:35 So I'm not really sure where they're still behaving like they are. And I have to just show you these lovely videos. Look at William and Catherine yesterday. This clip, Lauren, there was something about the interaction between the two of them. This was at the Archbishop of Canterbury's Sarah Malalley's service. And people were just saying, oh, they just look like best friends. Watch this. And Catherine, also, Lauren, dealt very well with a windy day in London.
Starting point is 01:17:08 What did you make of it? I love her. You can't help but smile when you see her. I know I'm damning about a lot of members of the Royal Family. family, but truly Catherine and Prince William, I just think are brilliant. And also, there was something a bit Mary Poppins about this outfit in the most wonderful way. I love her outfits. I just think she's perfect. She's class personified. And she is exactly the type of future queen we want. I just think, you know, if a lot of them could go, it would just be much better. But she is,
Starting point is 01:17:44 She never puts a foot wrong and she can rock designer clothes or high street and it looks exquisite. I mean, you wouldn't want her as a best friend, would you? She's really, really pretty and her clothes are incredible. You constantly feel like the ugly one, but I love her 10 out of 10.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Breaking right now, the slippery Starma PR comeback is on. Our corrupted Prime Minister has just sat down for another one-on-one interview with Beth Rigby, the In-the-Tank political editor of Sly News, who loves this bloke and wants to give him an easy ride, to try and make us feel sorry for him
Starting point is 01:18:30 over his revolting fuck-up in regards to Peter Mandelson. Now, as I say, this is the second interview of the day. This is specifically for the Sly News Electoral Disfunction podcast. think that's such a disgusting name for a podcast, isn't it? Because we know what they're doing. It's an anti-man podcast, basically, with three lefties, Beth, Rigby, Tess, Harriet Harmon and Ruth Davidson. And yes, Ruth Davidson is a lefty. She may be a conservative, but she's certainly a lefty. And anyway, Beth, who loves her Ange, and remember did that emotional interview with Ange, has now done her emotional interview with slippery stammer.
Starting point is 01:19:14 I'm watching this for the first time as you. It has just been released. Let's go. Don't get why you put him back into post. Surely your instinct was, I don't want this guy near my government. Are you angry at yourself that you maybe didn't follow your instinct? Well, on the back of that due diligence, we, questions were put to him, answers were given, which in my view weren't truthful. But if I sit back and answer your question, I am.
Starting point is 01:19:44 I'm frustrated. Nobody has been harder on me in relation to the mistake I made there than me. And I'll tell you for why, I've spent years trying to deal with violence against women and girls. And as I look back at it now and the mistake I make, I've been really hard on myself. In the immediate days after this all came out, I was particularly hard on myself. So, yeah, everybody else was criticising. I guess all that. but nobody was criticising me more than myself. I'm not trying to make that a mitigation or an excuse, but I know I made a mistake.
Starting point is 01:20:24 I can see that you feel that. I know that after nearly 20 years fighting violence against women and girls, I made a mistake there. And I hate the fact I made that mistake. And I dwell on it. I beat myself up about it. It's certainly not a mistake I'd ever repeat. But there's no criticism.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Anybody else can level at me that will be as harsh as the criticism I've dished out for myself. I'm just so astonished. Beth Rigby is disgusting. That is no journalist. She is a propagandist. I can feel that. I can feel that care. Do you remember the way she used to berate conservative politicians?
Starting point is 01:21:10 Would she ever act like that during an interview with Nigel Farad? Oh my God. Can you believe what we've just seen, Lauren? It's not often I'm speechless, Dad. First of all, I can absolutely assure Kirstama, I would come down much harder on him than he ever would himself. What we also have just seen there is a typical tactic that he's done hiding behind violence against women and girls.
Starting point is 01:21:41 That is a PR move he's doing to evoke sympathy, but also shame people from pushing him further. I don't feel one ounce of shame. This man makes my blood boil. He is pathetic. He hates women and children. He is the most dangerous Prime Minister we have ever had. How dare the man that has not done the right thing,
Starting point is 01:22:06 things with grooming gangs and advocating for safety for women and children. How dare he say those things? He's genuinely, he makes my blood pressure go up so much. And he's bad for Patriot's mental health. This ongoing gaslighting, it's not good for us. It's really, really damaging for our health. Yeah, it isn't good for our mental health, is it? Because Lucy, did you notice he was almost,
Starting point is 01:22:36 trying to act as if he was close to tears there. Crocodile tears. Oh, poor Kea Stama. Give the man an Oscar. Fuck sake. Do you know, like, I was just, I was watching you, Lauren, and I was like, it was like, is he really saying that? Did she really just say that?
Starting point is 01:22:54 I can feel that. I don't know who's worse, her or him. Yeah, I mean. I can't stand it. It's like, I'm Beth Rigby. It's like, you're pointless. Beth, you broke the COVID rules while everyone was grounded. I've never forgiven
Starting point is 01:23:10 you for that. But also, again, this is a woman that is supposed to be a journalist asking tough questions. It's embarrassing. I get embarrassed watching for her because she's making a fool of herself. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:25 She really is. I mean, it's unfortunate but in some ways perhaps a good thing that we are able to prove time and again that we have a corrupted mainstream media in this country. So no one from Sly News is ever going to hold Slibery Stama accountable. They are now effectively, Lauren, operating as propagandists of the state.
Starting point is 01:23:54 I mean, Bef Rigby in particular, because she was the one to do the rehabilitation of her ang, you know, having committed the most despicable tax avoidance, something that really should preclude her from a comeback. But Beth Rigby is leading the charge for Ange to be back as the next Prime Minister. But now what's so shocking is it's like Slippery Stama has seen that, realize, oh God, Beth gave such an easy ride to our Ange. So now I'm going to get her to do the same thing for me. But the thing is as well, Beth should be, I mean, we know. because she works with Sly, she never will be.
Starting point is 01:24:38 But these people that are getting access to people like Keir Stama, they should be on the side of patriots, on the side of hardworking, taxpaying people that are not being heard. And she knows exactly what she's doing there. Keir's probably seen all the questions. These things are not last minute interviews. You know, he'll have a pre-interview chat with her before, cross a few out that he won't do,
Starting point is 01:25:08 and how disrespectful to everyone to not ask him the tough questions and not hold him accountable for the mass failures under his watch. You know, we've spoken about Chavon's daughter having her life taken. This is all under Kea Starrman's watch. This man despises us.
Starting point is 01:25:33 He really does. He really does. And not as much as I despise him though, Dan. I hate it. I have a feeling someone on the superstar panel today might hate him even more than us though, Lauren, because he pretty much. Don't you be breaking your bail though, Lucy. I was going to say, I was going to say. Bail?
Starting point is 01:25:56 Oh, no, what's the thing now? You have to be really good. License. Yeah, license. Because he pretty much, he pretty much did, you know, know, directly get Lucy locked up via his Attorney General anyway for over 12 months. But there you go, there you go. Look, stand by YouTube because we're about to reveal today's greatest Britain and union jackass,
Starting point is 01:26:18 which we're of course competing for. But let me just look at the comments coming through so much from you today. Robert Freeman says, Restore Britain is the only party creating accountable for MP. so yes, reform should be worried about Restore. Leroy Brown says with tongue firmly in cheek, but very funny. Jeremy Corbyn is considered two right wing for today's Reform UK. Jenny Chiltern says, if it comes to it, I'd vote Restore.
Starting point is 01:26:48 But I have reservations. Rupert and Ben Habib together would be best for me. Roxy Jim says I reckon Matt Goodwin will get the sack next. And Helen Worrell says, I saw today that Restore was heading for two 100,000 members hope it's right. Okay, a reminder of our union jackass nominees. I have nominated John Swinney for suggesting Reform UK are not fit for Parliament because of a joke told at a rugby club six years ago. Lauren has nominated Matt Britton, the new director general of the BBC, who has just signed a 565,000 pound contract. That's sickening, isn't it? And Marie Tibble has been nominated by
Starting point is 01:27:32 Lucy Connolly for her hysterical screechy rant about the reform MPs leaving PMQs. Now, in third place, the new Director General of the BBC, Matt Britain, 9% of the vote, the runner up, 11% of the vote, Marie Titbull with 11%. I'm afraid to say, ladies, I took this one. I took this one with a whopping 80% of the vote, okay? But there you go. And John Swinney will now go head to head with Morgan McSweeney, Matt Goodwood and Matthew Wright to be named the worst Britain in the world today.
Starting point is 01:28:03 I'm going to post this in the post tab on YouTube straight after the show and you can get voting. We will announce the winner of the worst Britain in the world this week and about this time tomorrow. Lucy Connolly, you have nominated our greatest Britain today. Who have you gone for and why? I've gone from Afa Allen from the Together Declaration
Starting point is 01:28:25 because I just think he's amazing. He's been at this since like COVID. days and he's never, ever, ever, ever given in or let up. He's there every time. He shows up every time fighting for us little guys and yeah, I think he's great. Great nomination. Thank you to you both. Lucy Connolly, who of course can be found posting on X and on substack as well. Where can we find you on substack, Lucy? I think it's just Lucy Connolly, isn't it? It might be, oh, do you know. Amazing. Amazing. Yeah, just my name. And Lauren, the inside who you must subscribe to on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:29:05 Thank you both so much. Thank you. Now, we're moving over to Substack now for the Royal Uncanceled After Show, continuing the discussion with News Nation's Paula Frolic, the star journalist behind Inside Scoop on YouTube and Subsect, she's got a couple of big exclusives to reveal today.
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Starting point is 01:29:41 I promise to keep fighting for you.

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