Dan Wootton Outspoken - RUPERT LOWE REVEALS REFORM RIVAL AMID REVELATION THAT BRITISH CIVIL WAR HAS ALREADY BEGUN

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Britain’s civil war has already begun. That’s the shocking revelation from Professor David Betz from the Department of War Studies at King's College London as a result of the Islamist takeover of our institutions, as the hard left continue to attack patriots. The problem is that Nigel Farage has now admitted capitulating to Islamists by selecting Laila Cunningham to run against Sadiq Khan in London simply because she is a Muslim woman. And now the Islamists are even coming for our dogs. We’ll get exclusive analysis from comedian Leo Kearse. PLUS: Carol Vorderman’s political comeback as she calls Nigel Farage a grifter and a liar without a hint of irony. AND: The Epstein Files Fallout proves why our elite class is so corrupted, leading to the resignation today of Peter Mandelson from the House of Lords. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle’s panicked phone call to Kris Jenner has been revealed after Kim and Khloe Kardashian exposed her as a liar. We’ll get into it all with our Royal Mastermind Angela Levin. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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best Western gift card. Life's a trip. Make the most of it at Best Western. Visit bestwestern.com for complete terms and conditions. No spend no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 418. And breaking today, Britain's civil war has already begun. That's the shocking revelation from Professor David Betts from the Department of War Studies at King's College London as a result of the Islamist takeover of our institutions as the hard left continue to attack patriots. I think we'll look back at this period when we try to write up the history of the 21st century civil war in Britain and we'll think that We were already in it by 2006.

The problem, the jealous of... Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. This is my property. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Thank you. No, no, don't touch my stuff. Don't do that. Don't do that. The problem is that Nigel Farage has now admitted capitulating to Islamists by selecting Laila Kunningham to run against Sadiq Khan in London simply because she is a Muslim woman. We've got a Muslim woman who's going to stand for us for the Mayor of London contest against

Sadiq Khan. So no, there are plenty of members of the Muslim community who will vote for reform, support reform. My name Shadana Khan and I work in IT at the moment. And I've now reformed reform UK. Pelléle my Conservative Party made. So this is a message to all the Muslims in the EU. UK, we've done it guys. We have successfully managed to infiltrate the Reform Party. And now the Islamists are even coming for our dogs.

And actually, this isn't just about the fact that a lot of Muslims find dogs very difficult. It is about people who do not know how to control their dogs. Why do Muslims find dogs difficult? Because a lot of, they don't have to control their dogs. have dogs as pets. They have dogs as, as, uh, that shouldn't stop other people taking their dogs to the country because there are some people that you don't like a dog. So who is our savior? Is it Rupert Lowe, who is finally revealing he will launch his own political party? You know, I'm, I'm intent on trying to deliver a solution for everybody, but it's going to

require their support. I can't do it. I can set up the opportunity, but then it's up to the British people. And if they don't, then I respect that. But I've got to try and deliver a mechanism through which, if they agree with me, that we need radical change. It's got to come from outside the existing political establishment. I'll get into it all in my digest next. Then analysis from Leo Curse. Also coming up on the show today, Carol Vorderman's political comeback as she calls Nigel Farage a grifter and a liar without a hint. of irony. The Epstein files

proves why our elite class is so damn corrupted. By the way, to all of those people in the live chat saying, when are you speaking about Epstein? Trust me, I'm speaking about Epstein. Today, it has led to the resignation of Peter Mandelson from the House of Lords and Prince Edward being challenged directly

in the Middle East. And is it time for us to finally admit that the comedian Rosie Jones just isn't funny? I'll be asking Leo about that one. Then in the Royal Uncancled Aftershow on Substack, Megan Markle's panicked phone call to Chris Jenner has been revealed after Kim and Chloe Kardashian exposed her as a liar.

We'll get into all of that with our Royal Mastermind, Angela Levin. Of course, you can also vote right now for our Union Jackass, the worst Britain in the world today. These nominees from Leo Curse today, Zach Polanski, for saying it's time to be. legalise drugs, Judge Amjad Nawaz for not jailing a migrant who sexually assaulted a 12-year-old girl. This was such a shocking story. And Bill Gates over allegations in the Epstein files that he gave antibiotics to his wife

to cover up a potential SDI infection from misbehaving with his pal Epstein. Honestly, it really is shocking. It really is shocking. And all of this was covered up for so long. and this afternoon that scumbag, Adam Bolton, is still on Sly News defending. Peter Mandelson, they look after each other. So we're going to get into all of that.

Keep your feedback coming in throughout the show. Thank you so much for the super chat. Rosalind Headley, who says, Leave our dogs alone. Rupert Lowe 4pm. Keep them coming in throughout the show. I'll read out the best before we go today. But now, let's go.

Britain's Civil War has already begun. That is the chilling premonition from Professor David Betts from the Department of War Studies at King's College London in a shocking just-released interview on David Starkey's YouTube channel, where he looks at what has caused the grave underlying tensions in our society and culture. To me, a really significant moment was that in 2011, when clearly intoxicated young, I suppose, I think he was probably attached to Tommy Robinson's group, but young guy was interviewed and went on to YouTube

and he was talking about Muslimic ray guns. And, of course, he had a horrible accent, but he wasn't talking about Muslimic ray guns. He was talking about Muslim rape gangs. He was talking about paramed. systems of governance that had emerged across parts of the country that, for the most part, our national establishment, our chattering classes, don't know about and don't care. And never even visited.

You know, never visited. They don't know. I mean, they haven't the faintest idea what's going on in some of like ex-pit villages around Durham or something. Well, I mean, they may know Durham very well. That's a wonderful place. just go five miles outside. They don't know it. And this guy was made a fool of pilloried. And now you look back at that and say, wait a second, in the light of the revelations around the industrial scale activities of Pakistani

community-based sexual torture networks in this country, how dare they have laughed that off. Indeed. But in the conversation with Dr. Starkey, Professor Betz went further than he ever has in his previous warnings. Going on to say that historians looking back on the 21st century will judge that the first steps in a path to civil war have already been taken. The civil war of Britain has started. He pointed specifically to the Islamist control over police forces, as one of many possible trigger points watch. And I think we'll look back at this period when we try to write up the history of the 21st century

civil war in Britain. And we'll think that we were already in it by 2006. The watershed, the tipping point had occurred previously. No one's going to start. You know, just as, you know, historians of the American Civil War don't pick up the story on page one with the bombardment of Fort Sumter. There's, you know, that might have been when the first shot was fired, but that's not when the story begins. And the story of our 21st century civil war starts at a point, which is, which we have already passed. Which we have already passed. We are in a civil war already. And I have to say,

that it is hard to watch this video of our friend based and bougie being attacked for wearing a union jack and conclude that David Betts is wrong. Sorry, excuse me. It's okay if I can know. What are you guys freeing Gaza from? From? Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me.

This is my property. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. No, I'm not from GBA News. Don't touch me. Thank you. No, no, don't touch my stuff. Don't do that. Don't do that. But I find it interesting how they can film everyone, but the minute you ask them questions, they're doing what that man just did,

which is screaming and shouting in my face and trying to antagonise me. But I was never going to back down and I can do whatever the flip I want to do. Then you had this hijab, come from behind, and Damne tried to suffocate me by pulling it from behind, but she severely flopped.

And my whole thing is, like, what if I was to pull your head scuff? agonise me, but they weren't going to do it because this is the greatest country on earth, and nobody's going to make me feel bad about it. And sorry, guys, I'm looking back at the phrase. This guy with the glasses actually told them to stop. So not everyone there was a violent, you know, lunatic. So where is our saviour?

Our saviour from civil war. As I have been warning for many months now, I do not believe it is coming in the form of Night of Farage's Reform UK, which has capitulated in the face of Islam, believing that is the way to secure power. The G.B News presenter admitted as much in a new interview in regards to picking Laila Cunningham, with her secret Islamic tattoo, to be the party's London mayoral candidate versus Sadiq Khan. As Sly for the right put it, a clip of Nigel Farage admitting he selected a London mayoral candidate to target the Muslim voting bloc as blowing up, and people are rightly asking,

Since when did identity politics become the plan? What's next? Policy by demographic, amnesties to lock in votes, pick candidates on merit, competence and values, not checkbox politics. Watch the interview. We've got a Muslim woman who's going to stand for us for the Mayor of London contest against Sadiq Khan. So, no, there are plenty of members of the Muslim community who will vote for reform, support reform. The difference here, of course, is that for many, many years, the Muslim vote was viewed by Labor as being a block vote.

They turned out and voted for Labor in their droves. That has changed the lot. Connor Tomlinson countered winning the Muslim vote is mutually exclusive from winning the working class white British vote. 93% of reform voters think Islam is incompatible with being British. What are we doing here, guys? Especially given the limits of Layla Cunningham, are becoming increasingly. clearly. As Georgia Al Gaholle wrote in The Critic this week, I am yet to be convinced. Last week, I attended a panel held by Open Justice UK and the Prosperity Institute on the grooming gang scandal. Cunningham

was a speaker. The discussion was wide-ranging and emotional. Fiona Goddard, who was brutally abused and trafficked by a Pakistani gang in Bradford, candidly detailed her story and urged action on what remains a live issue. Cunningham, who spoke first, fiddled with her phone while Fiona spoke, and interrupted fellow panellists to jokingly urge them to defect to reform. But perhaps Cunningham's biggest foe part that evening was her apparent skittishness around Islam. During the discussion, Cunningham stressed more than once that A, she was a Muslim woman, and B, that the behaviour of the rape gangs who were overwhelmingly from Pakistani Muslim backgrounds did not represent the Islam she recognised.

But how relevant is her personal experience? And the thing is it does now seem constant with Reform UK. Basil the Great revealed, this is Shakina Khan. She defected to Reform UK. They haven't just made her a candidate for council election. They've made her a campaign branch manager. Reform are a pro-immigration party. They just want less than Labor and the Tories.

This will not save our country. Watch. My name is Shania Khan. And I work in IT at the moment. And I have now reform joined in Reform UK. First I was conservative party in. And now I've joined.

And I've selected that I'm as a candidate to stand as a counselor. And now, I'm personally made a campaign branch manager. Just four or five minutes. But I've been very successful and this thing is making me,

I'm going to go. There are now even videos of British Muslims boasting that Reform UK has become their party. Watch. So this is a message to all the Muslims in the UK. We've done it, guys. We have successfully managed to infiltrate the Reform Party. Leila Konykham, Nadim Zahawi, Zia Yusuf,

just a few of the members we've managed to get in there. What this means are the next elections when people are voting for reform, it actually just be a lot of vote for us. I'm going out to celebrate now with a pint of last week. You guys celebrate too, and congratulations to everybody. And they're even now coming for our countryside. Look at this madness now being propagated on GB News over government plans to make Britain's

countryside less white under a nationwide diversity plan. Traditional pubs have been singled out in particular as making those of foreign heritage feel unwelcome. And now the white middle class liberal elite are coming for our dogs too. because Islamists don't like them. We've got a problem. It's a lot about, yeah, it's a lot about the national parks and getting people out there and making national parks for everybody.

And one of the problems is dogs. And actually, this isn't just about the fact that a lot of Muslims find dogs very difficult. It is about people who do not know how to control their dogs. Why do Muslims find dogs difficult? Because a lot of... They don't have dogs as pets. They have dogs as... But that shouldn't stop other people

taking their dogs to the country because there are some people that you don't like their dogs. As we know, and any country... There's a lot of very badly behaved dogs. See you next hour. Gad Sad raged over that when I explained the canonical root

of dog hatred in the noble faith on Joe Rogan's podcast, the people of perpetual peace got mad at me. and accused me of lying. Anti-woke actor James Dreyfus went even further, writing, Christ, I just knew this day was coming. Nope, going after our dogs is my land line in the sand. I don't like snakes.

Would I expect them to be removed from the Amazon if I fancied a jungle trek? No, I'd go elsewhere. Don't like dogs? Too bad. Dogs are everywhere in this country. There are also many bad owners. Concentrate on training them. Don't punish our four-legged family members. It's the reason so many of us moved out the big sands.

city so our dogs could have some freedom. And no, I don't mean allowing them to run a muck in farmers' fields or worried sheep. This is about common sense and personal responsibility. I walk past people of all ethnicities and faiths every single day, and not once has anyone objected. Yes, some people have moved out the way, which is absolutely fine. Not everyone loves dogs, but not one person has ever said anything derogatory about my dogs over the years. I leash them when I should and unleashed them when it's safe. As to most other dog owners, who the heck is this woman? Speaking on behind, half off. It's some owners that need training. Don't punish all of us because some don't like it. There are always other options, places to go. It's something others are simply going to have to put up

with period. Don't like it. Don't care. Really don't care. Hashtag align in the sand. So we need a saviour. We need a saviour to deal with all of this. And like many of you, I'm increasingly coming to think that savior could be Rupert Lowe. Connor Tomlinson certainly thinks so, declaring last night he's doing it. Rupert Lowe is doing it after this new podcast with Peter McCormack was released. Watch what he's talking about. People often say, well, how am I going to join Advance UK? Well, the truth about that is Ben and I did speak to each other.

I never agreed to lead Advance UK. We had a big meeting with all of our staff present after I was cleared by the CPS and I was out of reform because Ben is a good man and I think, you know, a lot of what he says is very sensible. I think he's a patriot. I think he does want the best for Britain. But I didn't want a party, as I said to him,

a party at that stage was divisive. I wanted a movement, which we've got and we've got We've got our own fantastically loyal people who support us, and I think they would like to see us now find a solution to delivering this change that you and I think is now necessary. It's going to be hugely hard work. It's going to be very complex, and I don't think any of us can actually say how the course is going to plot itself. But Ben wanted a party.

I wanted a movement. Initially, he said he'd support my movement, and then we could turn into a party when we were ready to do that. but he decided to set up Advance UK. And I've never ever publicly been anything other than polite and complimentary about Ben because he is a good man. So, but that was the philosophical difference between us. He didn't want to wait, so he set up advance. I've set up Restore.

And I guess the question is, is there a way in which those two bodies can work together? And if there isn't, what do we do? And that's the question that is still got to be resolved. And I will resolve that once the rape gang inquiry is done. So there could be a restore Britain party coming within weeks? Watch? But I can assure people, I know what they, I know they want change. I know we've got to do it by 29.

and my intention is to try and give people the best opportunity to vote for something fresh, something that is outside the establishment, which is what reform used to be. As we said, when we were first elected, we were against all the odds, and that was a huge achievement by all of us, to actually break into this closed shop.

We broke in, and we broke in against all the odds. And when I fought my campaign in Great Yarmouth, you know, I had no idea what great people they are and I've really got to like them hugely. They've been badly let down by the post-war elite and I'm, you know, I'm intent on trying to deliver a solution for everybody but it's going to require their support.

I can't do it. I can set up the opportunity, but then it's up to the British people. And if they don't, then I respect that. but I've got to try and deliver a mechanism through which, if they agree with me, that we need radical change. It's got to come from outside the existing political establishment. Then they've got to show that and they've got to support us and they've got to trust us because, you know, I will do my best to change this mess that is this homunculus-like state,

which is sucking the blood out. This was what Ben Habib, the leader of Advance UK, said about a potential union with Restore Britain and Rupert Lowe here and outspoken just yesterday. And as you know, I'm sure, and many viewers will know, Advance UK was really set up with Rupert Lowe's leader in mind. And that didn't work out. Rupert decided to set up his own movement. I Rupert remains fully welcome in advance we have when we continue to have

exchanges of texts and you know we speak from time to time but Rupert is still going on with his movement I don't think he's interested in joining any political party at the moment you would need to ask Rupert his views but I personally can't see any genuine saving of the United Kingdom any real tilt at saving the UK coming out of a movement.

You have to do what we're doing. And you can see what we're doing. In other words, having a political force challenging the other parties at the ballot box. You can already see the impact that's having on reform and others because of the social media outcry as a result of us standing a candidate in Gordon and Denton. So what I would say to Rupert is continue the brilliant work you're doing, if and when you decide to join a political party, advances there with open arms for you.

After their march for Jesus was cancelled in Whitechapel and UKIP were faced down by an Antifa mob instead in central London, Nick Tenconi's party has decided to take a different path. France, faithhoods, disciples, supporters of the faith. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen. Michael the Archangel, defend us in the day of battle. Be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray,

and do thou a prince of the heavenly host by the power of God for us down into hell Satan and all in these spirits who wander through the world for the ruin of souls. Amen. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen. Be gone, demon. As new Green Party figures suggest, the Gorton and Denton by-election is a two-horse race.

Between Reform UK and the Green Party, UKIP has announced it will endorse their former leader. Nigel Farage, this is what Nick Tenconi wrote announcing the decision. At UKIP, we are not interested in splitting votes to allow leftists to gain power. We are interested, however, in uniting the right and prevent. the communists from gaining further political influence over Britain, be that through their marches of hate or in Parliament. UKIP will be standing candidates in the 2029 general election,

but we will not be looking to sabotage efforts to keep the left out of power. For now, whilst we build our Christian army, UKIP's strategy will be to help unite the right. In order to help alleviate the current tyranny patriots live under, we will, where possible, stand down candidates where reform are leading in the polls, and the outcome is forecasted that the vote could be split. will not risk causing the election of more extremist leftist MPs. In 2024, we saw the consequence of the right-wing vote being split, a Labour supermajority. Where others put personal gain or political

vendetters first, UKIP will always prioritise the country. UKIP will continue to be the rod that ensures our right-of-centre politicians do not pander to the Liberals or the left. May God have mercy on the souls of political leaders who continue to further sabotage Britain. Now, even John Cleese is waking up to the Islamist takeover of the Green Party. But I've got none. I really have nothing to say apart from shame on this country. Shame on the Western governments who allow us. Shame on the Western.

Shame on the Western. Shame on you. Shame on you. Yeah. Shame on you. Shame on you. Shame on you! Shame on you! Shame on you! Having finally done his research, John Cleese wrote,

I didn't realize. The Green Party was in cahoots with the Islamic sectarians. What a shame. I mean, at least he has realized, just like we all now know, I was right to call Slippri Stama a dangerous commie, whose morals go out the window when it comes to staying in power, even in regards to the tax cheat Angela Raina. The Prime Minister looked like he enjoyed his trip. In fact, it looked like a dream come true for a man who was virtually a communist most of his life.

But apart from the... Angela Raina joked that she's not dead yet. She's obviously been making a few interventions politically, very effectively too. Is it time for her to return to your cabinet? Well, I've always said that Angela has not only played a... big part in Labour politics, in our country's politics, but it's got a big part to play in the future. That's not new. I said that on the day that she stepped down, and I don't doubt that that's true. She's certainly not dead yet, and she's got a huge contribution to make, and I look forward to her making it.

Do you want her back round the table, though? Well, I would like to have Angela back at the right point, and I've always been clear that she's got a future role to play. She's a fantastic asset for the Labour Party. She played a huge part in the achievement that we got at the last election getting elected. We just passed the Employment Rights Act, which has got her fingerprints all over it. And as I say, the day that she stepped down, I wrote to her and said that she will be a big voice in the future as well as the past. And that's the problem with Stama, isn't it? just like Peter Mandelson

was a big part of his future having been a big part of his past too and we saw where that ended up let me bring in Leo curse so Leo it is all kicking off today but what do you make a professor David Bitt saying actually when we look back in history this error will have been regarded

as the start of the UK Civil War Yeah, I think it's been rumbling along at a low level for a while now. We saw it. Sometimes it rises to the surface, like when the Southport attacks in the wake of those horrific attacks, riots, you know, sprang up, protests sprang up across the nation. And quite often there were battles, clashes between Brits who, you know, were horrified by the Southport attacks and Muslims who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who were fighting against the Brits.

We've also seen it with raising the flag. I mean, why do you think people raise flags? We see it in Northern Ireland. People raise flags to mark out their areas, mark out the Catholic territory, the Protestant territory, the unionists and the loyalists. So we're seeing that happening in Britain now. And I've got to be honest, as a Brit,

as a native Brit, as somebody from the Anglo-Sphere, I feel reassured when I'm in an area and there are Union Jacks flying. I know that I'm going to be around kin, around brethren. You know, if something happens, there's gonna be people there who are on my side if I need any help.

You know, I wanna raise my daughter in a country where, you know, if she gets into trouble, if she's, you know, having forbid, you know, drinking with her friends in the park. I know I did it as a kid. But I grew up in a country where you could go and drink in the park with your friends when you're 15, and there wouldn't be predatory males

waiting to take advantage of you, bundle you into one of their taxis, take you to a house somewhere, phone up their cousins and their uncles, and come and go. gang rape you. And then you know, we didn't have politicians and a police force who would cover up that because they were, because these grooming gangs were voting for them. And we've seen the examples of the Civil War in other places, like in Bali, Mena, in Krobra, where people are

having to take the law into their own hands, form vigilante squads, to go and deal with issues that the government that the police and services aren't dealing with. In Bali Mena, it's It was similar to this grooming gang scandal. There was local families were moved in and put in their community. So families from outside were moved in and put in their community. And these were Roma families that were involved in crime and involved in anti-social behavior and all sorts. So the locals went to the police, went to the authorities and said, please, we're having issues with these families. Can you do something about it?

This is a tight-knit community. We're not racist. These were, you know, the locals were friends and, and, you know, the locals were friends and, you colleagues of Filipinos, of Poles, no problem at all whatsoever. It was just these Roma families that were causing the problems and committing crime and then going back to Romania, posting on social media with cash with weapons and obviously up to no good. And when the locals approached the politicians and went to the police and said, can you help us? Can you deal with this issue? We haven't asked for these people to be housed here. They were told, oh, go away. This is

diversity. This is good for you. Stop being racist. So then, then, then, There was a local girl, I think she was 14, she was very young. She was sexually assaulted by some of these guys. So it was kind of like the grooming gangs. It's all covered up. The locals knew they had to do something. So they took to the streets, they protested. And not that I condone this whatsoever, they burnt the homes that some of these problem families were in.

And people say it's mindless violence. You can actually see in some of the footage they're moving cars out of the way so they don't, the cars don't get burnt in the fires. So it wasn't mindless. It was very specific, very targeted. I still, you know, obviously it's horrific. It's not to be condoned whatsoever. But the people wouldn't have done that

if the democratic process had worked for them, if the government hadn't pushed them into that position. And we're seeing that across the country now. We're seeing people having to form their own vigilante mobs. Like in Kroberra, they've got to form citizen patrols because they know that the establishment, that the state, that the police won't police properly, They won't police for them.

And while this is all going on, while we see a drip, drip, drip. Every day there's a new horrific crime on the front page of the Daily Mail or whatever from, from, you know, an asylum see asylum seeker. Obviously somebody just exploiting the asylum system to come to the UK and claim benefits or work cash in hand. We see like another horrific crime committed by one of these guys. And the government doesn't do anything, anything to stop the flow. And the government could easily do it. You're telling me we couldn't stop small boats full of unarmed men.

I mean, if we can't stop them, what are we going to do if Putin wants to invade? Totally. They don't want to stop them. I honestly do not believe that they want to stop the invasion. Absolutely. And that's where I guess we come to what the solution is, Leo, because a lot of people say, well, Nigel Farage is the obvious solution. I say he's capitulated to Islam already. I don't know if you'd seen that interview, but I mean, he's effective.

admitting that Leila Cunningham was selected as the London Merrill candidate because she was a Muslim woman. They are the types of identity politics. I don't think Reform UK should be playing. And so is the Saviour really Rupert Lowe, who now looks like he is going to launch a political party? Well, who knows? I mean, we've got a lot of political parties on the right. But I've got to be honest, and, you know, some of the guys, like Ben Habib, I'm a huge, huge fan. of his and you know I think he's incredibly intelligent and you know will in the future make you know make incredible waves politically but I think we've got to be realistic and recognize that right now the the person on the right with the

brand recognition with the British public is Nigel Farage he's the only realistic prospect to to make some changes and I'm sure that when reform get in we will be to some extent disappointed I'm sure the left, the blob, are going to kick off. The state is going to kick off and stop reform, you know, enacting any policies that would do change. But I still think reform are going to get some stuff done. And perhaps we should be looking at the electoral cycle after that.

So once the windows shifted that far, and once the country's, you know, really facing up to some of these issues, really confronting them, they're not being swept under the carpet anymore, like the rise of Islamism. You know, we've got literal. convicted terrorists running for election in Birmingham. It's, you know, my mind just blows that people are, you know, the whole country isn't just like, what on earth is going on?

But when we do start confronting some of these issues, the grooming gangs in particular, these guys preaching in mosques, preaching to huge groups of Muslims saying, we've got the upper hand, you know, we're here to, we're here to conquer. Once people start recognizing that, I think, you know, then perhaps the electoral cycle after, after the reform victory, I think there will be a massive reform victory. That'll be when perhaps either reform will be pushed further to a place where they can actually enact the policies they need to enact.

Or somebody else will come in. Who knows? I don't know. I've kind of vacillate between having really high hopes for reform and thinking they're going to do incredible good and then thinking it's just going to be another party to let us down. But at least it'll be a different name letting us down this time.

You know? Well, yes, indeed. Indeed it will. Indeed it will. And I think that is becoming pretty likely. Nigel Farage has hit back today, though, at Carol Vorderman, who described him without a hint of irony as a grifter and a liar. As Vord has revealed, she is making a political comeback this year. As quoted by the Gryft report, I won't forgive my.

myself if I don't step up, I'm coming back into the political fight. Although Gryfty said, and there was me thinking she would be too busy to find time with her five special guys. Richard Donaldson of the National Strike said Carol Fordman has said she's going back into politics after years of telling everyone to vote Labor in the last general election. Stick to presenting daytime TV, Carol. So this was the article in the Daily Telegraph. And I mean, it is hilarious because she's the grifter, by the way. She actually hates everything the Daily Telegraph stands for, but because she's promoting this milf range of clothing, yeah, yeah, actually milf, she's got to go and do that interview. And so she said, I've always taken the term

milf to be a bit of a compliment. And in that nowadays she also gets called a gilf, the G standing for grandmother. The point of the J.D. Williams campaign, however, is to redefine Milf to mean midlife is living fearlessly. When it comes to the topic of Farage, Vortemann truly does live fearlessly. He's the worst thing, she says, sounding baffled. I'm half expecting her PR to jump in and cut things off. But she says he's not an MP. He's hardly there. He doesn't turn up for the Prime Minister's questions. He would destroy the NHS. This is a time where we all have to stand up and fight. People are going,

politics isn't for me. Well, it is when you need the NHS, when your police forces are diminished and violence, it is inherent for women and girls. I won't forgive myself if I don't step up. I'm coming back into the political fight later this year. Good Lord.

Now, Nigel Farage was asked about Vorderman's return at a Reform UK press conference in the past few hours. This is what he had to say. One more. Carol Vorderman has called you a grifter and a liar, and she's pledged to enter politics this year. What's your response to that? I'm looking forward to it. Marvelous.

Do you know, people can abuse me all they like. I never, ever bothered to return the compliment. I might have teased people over the years for being damp rags, but I've never actually really verbally assaulted or abused. anybody. I'm not going to start now. I just, you know, it's sad. But hey, bring it on. Come as down in Clacton. We will look forward to seeing it. Do you know what? I actually really liked his approach there, because of course, the real grifter and liar is Vorderman. Here she is promoting her milf range. Milf to me means it's more about being fabulous. The F is about being fab. I always took it as like it was meant to be a bit of a compliment. Sometimes, as I learned on

countdown over many decades, words take on a new meaning. But the reason we shouldn't trust Carol Vorderman is not because she's saying she's a milf, but rather because she spent years suggesting that the country was going to enter some type of utopia the moment that Slippri Stama was in charge. Indeed, she now has had to concede that the opposite. that has happened. Watch. I cannot tell you how incensed. I am. Honestly, I know I should let you speak. But honestly, I am absolutely incensed. And it has made me even more determined to do everything I possibly can to make them lose as many conservative members of Parliament as possible

in the general election through our tactical voting website. I cannot even begin to tell you. I find it a personal attack, this attack on her. Oh, it is. It is. And it's because of her background. It's because who she is. And she's a strong woman, an absolute strong woman, and a role model for every single girl out there.

And she is going to be Deputy Prime Minister. She is. And she is going to look into every single book. I know. It's going to be fun, isn't it, Kyle? I know. It seems arranged. So what do you think?

Kirstamber should do now, right? We've seen... I think he should apologise. You think he should apologise? I think I absolutely do. Now, lots of Borderman's political predictions were not right before the last election, as June Slater pointed out.

Oops, Carol's tweet hasn't aged well. Dan Norris has been arrested on suspicion of sexual offences, yet she promoted him. He'll beat Jacob Rees-Mogg and give us a... Portillo moment. And I think on the Farage is a liar and grifter headline. It was Chris Rose who put it best saying,

says the woman who told us that Kirstama was honest, decent and competent. And isn't that the problem, Leo curse, with all of a sudden taking this Carol Vorman political comeback seriously? Because presumably, right, she's going to be backing Zach Polanski, the tit whisper of the Greens. That's my assumption. But it's like, this is what you wanted, bitch. This is what you wanted.

Like try and make this work. You forced this on us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we all knew that at Labor were going to be like this. I don't know why she thinks, you know, Zach Polanski is now going to be the man to deliver the utopia. He can't even deliver a straight row of teeth. It's ridiculous.

And I'll hope that, you know, everybody says, oh, Zach Polanski's got no credibility because he used to hypnotize women to make their breasts bigger. For me, that's the only credible thing Zach Polanski has ever done. I hope that in the tit-whispering community, He's sneered that and doesn't have credibility because he's a communist, because he's on the far left.

It's a nonsense. I don't know what gives Carol Vordham in the right to preach about who's going to be good for the country. She doesn't have any track record of picking and choosing. I think it's really cynical of these celebrities to virtue signal, to say, oh, we should have opened borders. We should let everybody come here from anywhere. Everybody in the world is British when they know that they're

insulated from any of the impact. I mean, I'm pretty sure that Carol Vorderman lives in a very nice area and has very resolute security on her house. It's the working class girls in Rotherham and Oxford and Peterborough that are going to suffer as a result of the policies that Carol Vordeman desperately wants the UK to continue. They're the ones who are going to be going to have the asylum

hotels next to them, overlooking the school playground while we spend hundreds of pounds on taxis for them. ferrying them around. I don't know. You've caught me at a bad point because last week I did my taxes and seeing how much money we pay, I feel responsible. I feel like I'm funding.

I'm continuing this system by paying for it. It's disgusting. It made me complicit in their crimes. Yeah, no, we are. We are screwed. I just find it absolutely astonishing, though, that the left are so tone deaf that they can literally advocate

for this type of change of government and then immediately say, oh, well, that didn't work. So we're going to go even more to the hard left. It's just nuts. But a lot of this, of course, does come down to just a personal hatred of Farage, right? Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, they see him as responsible for all the ills in the past, responsible for Brexit, whereas, you know, the issue with Brexit, isn't that isn't that Brexit happened? The issue is that Brexit was implemented by people who didn't want Brexit, so they made sure it failed.

So that's not Farage's fault. That's the Blobs' fault. And yeah, I mean, it's Farage is sort of held up as an example as this sort of pariah of racism and, you know, ethno-nationalism, same as Tommy Robinson is. If you actually speak to them and find out what they want, they're not ethno-nationalists whatsoever. Like Tommy Robinson, you know, half of his

mates are, you know, are different colors of British guy. You know, Tommy Robinson believes that, you know, it doesn't matter what your ethnic background is. You know, it's about your, your values and how much you love this country. That's what makes you British. And, you know, I'm inclined to agree with them on that. Same with, same with Farage. If you look at Farage's party, I mean, it's very diverse. It's very ethnically diverse. You know, it shows that, you know, we've got people, like Suella Braverman, like, you know, the other people in his, in his party like Leila, Leila Cunningham, who, yeah, who I mean, I think most people, if you're real about it,

unless you're Steve Laws, most people are fine with ethnic, you know, people from ethnic backgrounds if they've got a posh English accent. That's the key thing, man. If you've got a posh English accent, then I've got no problem. I know you're not gonna get up to any, any trouble. You never get these grooming gangs standing outside the court with a posh English accent, do you?

I wish I had your face. I wish I had your faith. Do you know someone who I think is almost as bad as Vorderman is a woman called Marina Perkis? Have you ever come across her? Yeah, yeah. She's so bad. And she was just actually unbearable

on the Jeremy Vine show with Andrea Jenkins yesterday. I mean, it ended up resulting in Andrea Jenkins nearly walking out and making this dig about her podcast. Watch. After the break, it's the papers. Go back to your podcast. Oh, Marina. That's so poor.

What's, what's of confidence is that? Keep it polite. I've thought the job what I'm going back to after this, actually. What are you doing? Just misleading people again. After the break, it's the papers. But by the way, it's not poor because when you see what she put Andrea through. It is remarkable.

And also, I need to know, you are, obviously, you have a defender of Trump. You praise him, your party, Farage. You align very closely. Do you, I think the viewers, should know given everything we know about Trump there's in these files that we know of him today do you still support him look this to me it's not about Trump this is about believing in due process you know you still I will finish do you just ask the question I will finish can see through this

but I mean I think you do still support him right because you as you're saying he's not guilty in your terms I believe in a due process and why can I excuse me right go go go for it go for it go go go for it go go You go for it, Andrew. You're not the host here, Jeremy. No, no, it's fine. Now, the fact is, do I support Trump? He's a democratic leader.

Now, if anybody is seen to have been involved, whoever is, whichever party in underhand tactics and an abuse like that to a minor, then they need outing. Excuse me, Marina. The due process isn't happening? Just a minute, Andrew. Let Marina say her thing. I'll come back to you. The due process isn't happening because under him, there are still.

millions of files that haven't been released. I can't believe. In fact, I looked, there is no mention of you ever talking about women and girls unless it's through the lens of immigration. But here, when faced with this guy who's on your side, not a, not a peep, not a peep. He has been found all. Forget what you think he's done though. Forget what's in the files. If the fight, if you want to pretend. Yes, yes. If you want to pretend. Do you not get a word in edgeways. Let me just answer. No, no. Marina, wait a second. You've had enough, Marina. stuff that we've known today. The civil... I'm going to talk if I do not get chance to speak. Okay. With motor mouth.

Hold. No, no. She's not... I can control it, but you're both speaking. I agree. Your turn... Leah, she's unbearable. I think she's even worse than Voldemann.

Yeah, and she seems to be morphing into Narendor Cor. It's ridiculous. And yeah, and what a straw man argument to say that people on the right don't care about Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. They only care when migrants are involved. That's an absolute nonsense. But Jeffrey Epstein was an American, was an American, might still be an American. We don't know.

Was he really? The way he was actually spotted on the island again. Oh, really? Yes, they were. Look, I think this idea that, you know, we don't care about Epstein. Yeah, I think Epstein's crimes are horrific. But my priority is for the girls of Britain. That's who I care about the most.

So, you know, any crimes like that that are happening in the UK, and, you know, the crimes of the grooming gangs are, you know, far worse than even Epstein's crimes. So, yeah, I mean, that's, I think it's a real straw man to have a go at Andrea over that. It's also just not true. I mean, Epstein's crimes were first revealed by the right-wing media in the United Kingdom. It was my former newspaper, the news of the world, that actually pictured Epstein in Central Park with then Prince Andrew at the time,

which started this whole thing off. Breaking today, Princess Catherine is keeping calm and carrying on amid the Epstein fallout as Prince Edward is challenged in public for the first time over the growing scandal involving his older brother Andrew. So I think Catherine actually got this right. She just was like, look, I'm going to continue. She looked absolutely incredible actually visiting. the premium jeans manufacturer hiat denim and cardigan West Wales today.

And it was like, goodness me, we just need a reminder of what royalty is meant to be. And why she is perfect. It's interesting too that she went for this brand because the brand first caught international attention after being worn by Megan Markle. And this engagement was confirmed last week as part of her ongoing efforts to champion British textiles and independent enterprises. She didn't cancel even though last. Last week, the Republic organisation did send hecklers to try and ambush her and Prince William. But Prince Edward was ambushed on stage today.

Now, this really doesn't happen in royal circles. Every royal event is usually planned to the nth degree and journalists don't go off script. But I will actually give credit for once to Eleni GioCoss, a CNN reporter. during Edward's appearance at the World Government Summit in Dubai today, by raising the elephant in the room. And I'm also going to be honest with you, I think Edward was thrown, he didn't expect it, and his initial answer wasn't the best,

although he did slightly recover. Watch. And it's super important because, you know, it's been dominating headlines. We all know the last few days have been very interesting, very difficult, and I'm sure for you, sir, as well. This is an important question to ask, and I want to ask it in the context of what we've seen from their majesties and their response, and they're saying that we should be focused specifically on the experience of the victims.

The palace has been very, very clear on that. We've just heard some commentary from Prime Minister Kiri Starma as well, and bearing that in mind, and he's saying that there needs to be assistance for the victims. And I wonder what you think of this, because it is so close to home, clearly very difficult, and I know you've put in various plans in place to move the institution forward, but how are you coping with that? Well, with the best world in the world,

I'm not sure this is the audience that is probably the least bit interested in that. So they all came here to listen to about education solving the future. But no, I think it's all really important always to remember the victims. And who are the victims in all this? Well, who are the victims in all of this? Leo Curse, that was quite a moment, wasn't it? absolutely everyone is interested.

By the way, Edward, I think that initial deflection didn't make sense. Thank God he did end up speaking about the victims. Yeah, although, was he deflecting to try and suggest that he might be a victim, that some of the accused men might be a victim? And the lawyer, Dershowitz, Alan Dershowitz, was saying that. And I can agree. I think they've got a point. I just think it's probably not the most astute way way to bat away a question like that.

I think he's more shocked. And I think, you know, obviously, being a royal, he probably thinks everything's going to be vetted and he's not going to have to deal with anything nasty like that, any nasty questions. So, you know, there's a certain level of, a certain level of shock and surprise there. And yeah, we can see the images here of Prince Andrew.

I'm just amazed that everybody in the Epstein files, everybody went to that island, was happy to be photographed, Happy to have all these photographs taken of them with the young women. We don't know how old... Like Mandelson in his underwear, Peter Mandelson in his underwear. It's weird. Like, I would never allow someone to take a picture of me in my underwear ever. Or if you did, if you did, you'd get some nice underwear.

You wouldn't be wearing those nasty, like, tidy whitties. Those are like cartoon white-fronts from the 1950s. It's like, has he got one pair and he washes them every night? Just, you know, if you could have a photograph take, that's going to be in the front cover of the times, then get some nice, get some nice figure-hugging boxers. Treat yourself. So, Leo, there is now a real political change

when it comes to the royal family. This is potentially historic. So in the past, someone like Nigel Farage would never dare to comment on royal matters because politicians tend to have that separation. But today, when he was asked by the Daily Telegraphs, Tim Stanley about Andrew being reported to the police. He had a totally different tone. Watch this. Oh, we'll come back to that. But just before we get to that, I want to show you an email,

which has just emerged, which is also really interesting. Andrew was apparently confiding in Jeffrey Epstein about abdicating from the royal family. And of course you can't abdicate if you're not a king, but effectively leaving the royal family. So this was in 2011, and this was an email that Epstein sent. Stuff's bad for Andrew's girls,

got royal protection taken away, queen said no royal list, get a job. Sarah has a specific question for you. Andrew is sad and frustrated considering abdication but he's like a zoo animal no way especially now for him to thrive I took my laundry to their house yesterday they were a little shocked I hope that wasn't rude

Andrew said yes but Sarah wasn't amused I need yoga clothes I mean bizarre that this conversation was taking place within all of this personal stuff but fascinating I think that that clearly these battles between Andrew and the Queen

had been running for some time, the lightweight. Yeah, isn't that a revealing look at, you know, the pressures and stresses of royal life? Not everybody wants to, wants to be a royal. And certainly, you know, Prince Andrew, he certainly seemed to enjoy it back in the, back in the days when he could go to Epstein Island and nobody noticed. He could do whatever he wanted, party like a playboy. And then, you know, his job was mainly as a sort of trade delegate, going over to Saudi Arabia, no doubt being lavishish. no doubt being lavished with gifts and who knows what else,

because we know that Saudi Arabia isn't, you know, they're not exactly averse to the Epstein style lifestyle. So, yeah, you can see now that there's the extra scrutiny of the royal family that's afforded by not just our tabloid press that's always had an eye on them, but the internet. And with everybody, everybody's got a camera and, you know, stuff can spread like wildfire. and you can't hire a PR consultant to keep a lid on it, it's going to get out. So I think unless you're living like a monk, which, let's be honest, Andrew,

regardless of any allegations of illegality, he clearly wasn't living like a monk. You know, this can lead to so much pressure on you. Yeah, and I mean, these emails are just so crazy. Because something was definitely going on. Look at this. This is another email from Epstein to a contact talking about Andrew and making the point that his phones are all wired. And most males except BlackBree account are tagged. He doesn't know that either.

So it's like, oh my God, he was being tapped by who? I mean, was this all a blackmail operation, potentially for Mossad or potentially for the Russians? Because how bizarre? Yeah, and the tendrils that Epstein snaked into politics all around the world. I mean, we can see, you know, the state secrets, the confidential documents that Mandelson was leaking from the government to Epstein, the, you know, the advanced notice of Gordon Brown standing down. or you know a half a trillion, half a trillion euro financial movement. You know, these are things that people can not only make millions and millions of dollars from, but also affect global geopolitics.

So I mean, this is all information that would be so valuable to a government, whether it's, you know, whether it's linked to America, linked to Russia, whoever it's linked to. This is stuff that's shifting the dial in politics. So there's real evidence. I think more files are going to come out even after this current tranche of 3 million. So we're going to find out if this was getting all these powerful men and getting pictures of them and compromising situations, that gives you incredible leverage to blackmail them. When I went from a developed vetting, you know, the highest level of vetting when I was working

with the foreign office, one of the things they check. is for stuff like this. Have you been in any compromising situations? Does anybody have any photographs or any evidence of you doing anything like this? They also look for things like, a lot of it's financial. If you're in debt, if you're a gambler or anything, then you can be blackmailed. You can be bribed.

But a lot of the vetting, when it gets to the higher echelons of national security, is there's Are there secrets in your past that you can be blackmailed for? And clearly, a lot of people who went to Epstein's Island have those secrets, because we can now see them coming out. Well, Elon Musk, who did also have his own communication with Epstein, says actually, as part of the files, are videos. Are videos of Epstein and very high-profile men, many of whom are on the left with these women? So I think there is much, much, much more to come here. But of course, the big breaking news today, Leo, is that Peter Mandelson has finally stepped out.

I mean, this is quite astonishing, of course, because this man has never, ever been a decent guy. He has always used money and influence to do the wrong thing, yet is forgiven by the political and media class every single. time and it is because of his close relationships with the corrupted mainstream media. I mean, look at this from John Soapel of the fake news agents. Can we just say, by the way, that John Sobel of the fake newsagents must be the person to get things wrong worse in public other than Rory Stewart because do you remember, he backed, he backed Hugh Edwards, didn't he? And at the time of him getting the job, Mandelson getting the job, look, there's my piece for the independent on Peter Mandelson becoming the next ambassador to the US.

Risky, maybe, but a very smart move. Then you've got Emily Maitliss, who is pictured constantly with Mandelson, and she posted not all that long ago sitting cross-legged on the US ambassador's carpet with Peter Mandelson listening to this, one of the more surreal evenings. So surely we can't trust a word that these people have to say. I mean, Adam Bolton is another. Chris Rose pointing out that previously he had posted. Peter Mandelson is the only politician not to lie to me.

He'll thrive in the US. Chris saying the worst people aren't looking good today. And what about where's streeting too? Did you see this? He is deleting all of his posts because there are so many with Mandelson. But the point is, I think, Leo, of course the elite class were way too close to each other, way too close to Mandelson. way too close to Epstein, it's sickening to me. It is absolutely sickening. And I don't think this is a

left or right issue because Nigel Farage has had to admit today that the treasurer of the Reform UK party, Nick Candy, is all over the Epstein files too. Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people are named in there who, you know, were just rich and influential and, you know, but might not have really had anything to do with the island. We see Elon Musk is named in there. The thing that really made me laugh about Elon Musk is that he wanted to go to the island, but he came across as such a nerd that like he was invited. But then when he accepted the invitation, he came across as such a nerd that Epstein said to Maxwell, you know, get rid of this guy. We don't want this guy on the island. So Elon's nerdiness saved him from, you know, possibly, you know, being implicated in crimes. What a beautiful moment. But, you know, for Peter Mandelson. Peter Mandelson is now trying to make excuses saying, saying, oh, Epstein was a master manipulator.

And, you know, as if Peter Mandelson is some naive, innocent lamb just walking along being exploited by this Machiavellian master. Peter Mandelson is one of the sharpest operators in politics. He's the most Machiavellian man in the world, as you can see by him repeatedly rising to senior ranks in labor administrations. So, you know, for him to say, oh, I'm just a, I'm just a, I'm just a naive young farm boy and you know this man took advantage of me it's just so laughable it's a nonsense and yet there so many people in the in the media establishment have uh have ties to all of

this and won't want to touch it because they won't want to burn all those bridges i think if you go after something like this you're you're taking down you know so many rich and powerful people uh that you know a lot of people like the news agents for for example they're of course they were Of course they were just tweeting. Congratulations for Peter Mandelson at the time. Oh, 100%. And I mean, he is neck deep in this. I mean, the emails keep coming, right?

They keep coming. This one was sent to Jeffrey Epstein by Peter Mandelson during the 2010 election, Leo. He said, we are praying for a hung parliament, alternatively, a well-hung young man. That's what we're dealing with. Yeah, I mean, at least he's got a sense of humor there. There's far worse stuff that he did.

I mean, when he was giving Epstein advice on how to exploit changes in British regulation, how to lobby, to improve Epstein's position, not to improve Britain's position. So he, despite being a British politician, you know, for the Labour Party who apparently represent The people, he wasn't representing the people at all. He was, he was working for a billionaire pedophile who was giving him tens of thousands of pounds.

That's so, like that's so terrible. That's so bad. I just can't believe that, you know, I can't believe Labor haven't called an election and just throwing their hands up and said, oh my God. Yeah, this is, I mean, this, in any normal year, this would be like a scan. that destroys a party. Totally. Totally. It's utterly despicable

and I do not think the Epstein Files story is even close to being over. The comedy world is finally having an honest conversation about Rosie Jones. The lesbian stand-up

with cerebral palsy who, in my view, has one big problem. She's simply not at all funny. But, Channel 4, the British Passion Corporation, Comedy Central, they have long promoted Jones because I think she amounts to a DEI higher. And astonishingly, and this is what finally I think raised the ire of other comedians, she is now lecturing them about how they should tell

jokes sensitively. Well, the actually funny Leo Curse has spoken out about this and we will get his verdict shortly. But I think if Jones was actually telling funny jokes, then people might not be led to believe that this is actually just about DEI. But are you really going to try and convince me that this is at all funny? Watch. Hello. My name is Rosie Jones. And this is my guided meditation we will start with our mantra

it could be you it could be you could be you no and crue and here is

Rosie Jones hitting back at her increasing number of critics. Watch. Hello. So I noticed that recently there's been a lot of negativity on my account. A lot of people out there who have said I shouldn't be a comedian. and because I'm disabled and cause I speak slowly.

And I just wanted to say to all of those people with respect for you. And going to carry on doing what I do because I love it. And I love who I am. Bye. I mean, Leo, because from my point of view, it's nothing to do with your disability, Rosie Jones. It's to do with the fact that you have never said a funny thing ever. Yeah, and also, you know, you know it's an act. She doesn't actually have cerebral palsy.

No, she does. But she's not funny. And the thing is, there are comedians who are disabled, who are incredibly funny. It's nothing to do with her being disabled. Well, it's a little bit to do with her being disabled because she talks so slowly that, you know, it's like when are you going to get to the point? And also, I mean, the main disability.

We've got to be honest about that. Man, I've seen her, I've seen her live and people are, you can feel the atmosphere hanging. And then she gets the, oh, you know, the sort of, you know, well done you, the school sports clap. And, you know, it's, it is a little bit to do with how slowly she speaks. I mean, if somebody was fat, you wouldn't say you're going to make an amazing ballerina. Like, this is the equivalent of making a fat person, forcing a fat person to be a ballerina. I really blame the BBC and Channel 4 for this. They've obviously got all their box ticking stuff.

They've got to have a certain amount of representation of whatever. So, you know, she ticks that box and she ticks some other boxes. I think she's non-binary or genderqueer or something like that. whatever the cool kids say these days for, you know, basically being normal. And obviously you've got to recognize our other disability that makes are not funny, which is being a woman. But, you know, we're going to, you know, I'm not going to have a go for that. I wouldn't be having a go at her if the, if, you know, by the way, there are funny comedians with cerebral palsy.

There's a guy called Tim Renco who absolutely kills life. And, you know, and he's got, he's got very, you know, he can, he walks with a frame. He's really affected by it, but he's got such a sharp mind and he's got such an evil wit that, man, he destroys on stage. And he doesn't get the pity clap. He doesn't get the school sports like, oh, people really lose their minds laughing at him. He's a great guy. But yeah, I wouldn't have a problem with Rosie Jones. You know, people can watch whatever they want.

You know, if they want to watch that sort of comedy and have a bad time, you go for it. That's your punishment for being woke. You know, I think that's apt. Everybody else can watch Norm MacDonald or whatever and have a fun time. But she lectures other comedians on how to be funny. She's written, it was like basically a guide into how you can do comedy without offending other people. Is that right? Yeah, as if that's a good thing.

Like surely, you know, the whole point of comedy, is it offends somebody? I mean, having comedy that doesn't offend somebody, that's. That's like going to the Formula One and nobody spins off the track. Like you've got to, you don't just want to watch the beads sliding down the string all nice and safe. You want it to be a bit chaotic. You want it to go near the boundaries. But she said, this is her guide for comedians like me on how to tell a joke responsibly. By the way, I'm going on tour.

I'm going on tour around the world. I'm not around the world, around the UK. Going to Rotherham, all these places. So on my website there's a link. You can buy tickets. It's March, April and May. Amazing. And you were anything other than PC? Yeah, yeah, man. I've already had.

Having seen your act before I know. It was hard to get venues to agree to put me on. You know what I mean? But Rosie's advice, which I won't be following on my tour, she says, before you tell a joke, you need to analyze it. And that comes down to three things. First, who are you? Do you have lived experience or experience close to you? Second, who is your joke about?

What is your intention? Is it positive or negative? Are you punching up? or punching down. And third, why are you telling the joke? Are you asking a question to open a conversation and make people think differently? Or are you saying it simply to be controversial?

I know, when I say stuff as a comedian, I'm mostly trying to be funny. And also she says, you know, like if we take her first point, she'd say to me, oh, you can't talk about transgender women. You're a straight white man. But straight white man, what do you think transgender women are? Like we're obviously allowed as comedians to talk about things that aren't our lived experience.

It's a nonsense. And who's to say what's punching up and what's punching down? Like, you know, I do jokes about transgender women. I say, you know, I don't know where that transgender weightlifter got his gender reassignment surgery done, but I read that he's got a 135 kilogram snatch. So, you know, that's a joke. That's a joke about a New Zealand weightlifter, Laurel Hubbard. Rosie thinks that I'm punching down a vulnerable minority.

Is she correct? Or are we laughing at a mediocre male athlete who's unfairly elbowed, women out of the way to become the number one female weightlifter. I know going through male puberty conveys certain advantages to an athlete. You get greater bone density, you get stronger muscles. It's easier to parallel park outside the stadium. There's a lot of advantages to it. And also, what about women's feelings or the historic oppression?

Why don't they factor in Rosie's hierarchy of what's punching up and what's punching down? And I mean, I do a lot for when out of respect for women, I stay out of women's spaces. like the kitchen. This whole hierarchy of like who's up, who's down, and where you can't punch is ridiculous. It's actually more difficult as a comedian to punch down because then people are going to think you're a terrible person. So when I'm doing all my horrible bigoted jokes,

then you know, it's more, you've got to be more careful than if you're just saying, oh, the British Empire is bad. Oh, straight white men are bad, which is what, you know, most BBC comedy is. They all adopt this sort of victimhood. You know, people label themselves as ADHD or gender queer like Rosie has, you know, everybody's, the whole woke intersectional thing is absolutely nonsense. It's actually far easier to tow the line and parrot the opinions of the leftist gatekeepers who run the BBC in the comedy industry. Like, I've been cancelled from venues, from festivals, I've been cancelled from entire TV channels just for having a laugh, just for

making a joke. You got to remember a joke is to make people laugh and laughter is honest. Laughter is an involuntary reaction. You can't sort of plan laughter. Like comedy doesn't need to be judged by self-appointed moral arbiters like Rosie because when we perform, we're already performing in front of a jury. We've got the audience out there. There's like 200 people out there who, you know, if they like it, if they think I'm not a terrible person, they're going to laugh. If it's not funny, they're not going to laugh. So they can decide. They can decide whether to buy tickets or not buy tickets.

I don't know why comedians like me have to be cancelled, have to be, you know, de-platformed. It's like the audience will do that if they don't like us. Just like the audience, you know, choose who they buy tickets for. And buy a ticket for my tour, by the way. Well, totally. Look, here it is. Here it is, Leo. The curse on humanity tour kicking off on the 27th of March in Rotherham.

You've got to be there. And of course, Leo curse.com for those tickets. Leo, a little bit of breaking news before we go. It is now official Peter Mandelson

will face a full criminal investigation into allegations that he leaked market sensitive information from Downing Street to Jeffrey Epstein. Now, this is from

the Metropolitan Police that I've made that decision pretty quickly. What is so astonishing about this? I can't see how he isn't guilty. I mean,

The Cabinet Office has told the Metropolitan Police, this is according to Stephen Swinford, political editor of The Times, that the email sent by Mandelson to Epstein may constitute criminality. Mandelson has been investigated under suspicion of misconduct in public office an offence that carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment. For a successful case, it would require prosecutors to prove that Mandelson deliberately leaked details of sensitive government information to Epstein, knowing it to be wrong,

or with reckless... indifference. No government minister or former minister has ever been charged with such an offense in recent times. But I've read those emails, Leo. That's what he did. I mean, that is what he did. I don't think there's any denying that. Well, they've got to check, you know, are the emails legit? I guess they've got to make sure, you know, some people have said that some of the emails, like Bill Gates has strenuously denied that he contracted an STD from a Russian prostitute and then passed on the STD to his wife and then asked Jeffrey Epstein

for antibiotics. You know, the problem with the virus protection. The problem with that one, well, not the problem, but I guess the advantage that Gates has got on that one is that Epstein was like gathering

almost like a dirt file on Gates who he was angry for having cut him off because his wife, Melinda Gates, despised Epstein for very obvious reasons. That's like different, isn't it? It's a different.

That is slightly different from Mandelson. Who was sending these emails? I mean, they were clear. I mean, sure, we're going to have to check that these emails were legitimate. But, I mean, I believe they were because if not, you know, Manderson would have said that are not. I can't see a way out for Peter Mandelson. If those emails are legitimate, I mean, geez, that has to be, that has to be jail time.

That has to be jail time. He's sending government, confidential government documents and also, you know, tip-offs about movements in the financial markets, big financial decisions that are being taken by politicians. And these are decisions that then, you know, a financier like Jeffrey Epstein, that's how he can make his money. No wonder, everybody's like, how did this guy get so rich? Well, he's got politicians bent over a barrel feeding him information that he can then rig the markets. He knows what way the euro is going to go down because he's getting advanced tip-offs about these big political decisions. So he can make an absolute fortune. But that's, I mean, that's a serious crime.

That's sort of insider trading. Never mind on top of that. We've got all the government secrets that you're not supposed to give to your aids. You're not supposed to give to junior ministers. Never mind send them to a foreign pedic. a disgraced financier. That's insane. Totally. And don't you also get the sense, Leo, there is a lust for more people to be punished over Epstein. Now, of course, I do think it is a great irony that at this point it really is only Brits who have been punished. Galane Maxwell,

Andrew, now Mandelson. You know, it would be nice for some of these Americans to be punished too. I think there is going to be such public outcry over this. And I also believe this is very bad news for Andrew, Mountbatten Windsor, because how can you so quickly decide to launch an investigation into this, yet not have investigation launched over his new sex trafficking allegation? Oh, yeah, I mean, this is calamitous for Andrew. And I think the only thing that's saving the royal family right now is the fact that King Charles cut Andrew off pretty quick,

as soon as it became apparent that these allegations were going to, you know, it's not a problem that's going away. So if Andrew was still in the royal family with all his royal titles swanning around, you know, on the balcony at Buckingham Palace, I think I think that would that could mean the royal family were toast, quite frankly. Same with Kier Starmor. I think the only thing that might allow Kier Starmer and the Labour Party to hang on by their fingertips is the fact that Kier Starmor got rid of Peter Mandelson. as soon as it, you know, became apparent, you know, he was, he also hired him. He also hired him. Knowing, knowing, he hired Mandelson, knowing he was in the Epstein files, knowing that he was best mates with this Peterfile.

Honestly, my mind boggles. It is the arrogance of this elite class, this political class, this media class. They need to be crushed. They seriously need to be crushed. But look, amazing show. Thank you so much, Leo Kirst. And, of course, Leo Kirste. to get tickets for the tour, which will be very, very good.

Leo, thank you so much. We'll speak very soon. So much feedback from you coming in today. Private Jose via the super chat says the government needs to realize that the people have all the power, not the government. We can overrule them in a matter of ours. Here, here, yes, we can. Julie Cole, 8200 says, I think Rupert Lowe and Ben Habib will merge,

but a different format, not like other political parties, i.e. power given to the local people. Tracy Munro says So between reform, advance and Rupert not being grown-ups, we're going to lose our country. I can see it coming. David O says Rupert Lowe is probably the best candidate for Prime Minister, but it's simply not his time just yet soon,

but not yet vote reform. That's similar to what Leo Kirst was saying. And heaven help us all. 4476 isn't happy with me. They write, don't know why you're so jubilant that Rupert may set up an opposition party to advance and Ben, that will be an absolute disaster just as we are making such progress with over 40,000. Look, I think we need a saviour.

I really do. And you know my view, I don't back any political party. I want to give them all a platform, but we do need representation in the House of Parliament, which of course, Rupert, potentially with James McMurdock, would be able to deliver immediately. Okay, a reminder of your union jackass nominees today. Zach Polanski for saying it is time to legalise drugs. Judge Amjad Nawaz for not jailing a migrant

who sexually assaulted a 12-year-old girl and the aforementioned Bill Gates for allegations that he gave antibiotics to his wife to cover up a potential SDI infection from misbehaving with his pal Epstein. And your results are in? In third position with 28% of the vote, Bill Gates, the runner-up with 31% of the vote, Judge Nawaz. But today's Udi and Jackie. ass, the worst Britain in the world because of his ludicrous drug legalisation plot. It's the tit whisperer himself, Zach Polansky. And today's greatest Britain, nominated by Leo Curse, is Rupert Lowe for his incredible rape gang inquiry. Okay, we're moving over to Substack now for the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow all of the latest Royal News with our Royal Mastermind, Angela Liv and www.w.w.

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