Dan Wootton Outspoken - RUPERT LOWE WAR TO SAVE BRITAIN AS REFORM UK GB NEWS & TALK TV LAUNCH DIRTY TRICKS CAMPAIGN

Episode Date: February 16, 2026

BREAKING TODAY: The start of a British political revolution as Rupert Lowe launches Restore Britain as a national political party and within 48 hours amasses 50,000 members. For Donald Trump, the announcement came after descending the escalators in Trump Tower in New York. For Rupert, it came on his 550-acre farm located in Gloucestershire, as he promised mass immigration to the UK will be reversed – and didn’t sugarcoat how difficult this will be either. Cue hysteria from the Reformists and MSM who believe there must only be once choice – an Islam and Tory-infested Reform UK, which is now proudly boasting about its socialist policies. But can Rupert reunite the right and what’s really going on with the proposed merger with Ben Habib’s Advance UK? Things are looking a little rocky as we come on air today. Dan will share an exclusive statement from Ben Habib in his Digest. Then on the Superstar Panel today: Advance UK college member Howard Cox, alongside X sensation Bernie Spofforth of If This Is True, who is known as Artemis For Now on the Elon Musk platform, and Lee Mitchell, the independent journalist who runs the YouTube channel LBL. PLUS: Tommy Robinson flees the country after receiving this shock threat from ISIS delivered by UK cops. AND: As pressure mounts for police to finally launch a police investigation into the royal formerly known as Prince Andrew, Prince William is launching a PR offensive, making it clear that he wanted the disgraced ex-royal banished after his Newsnight interview debacle. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: We’ll team up with the Royal News Network to reveal why Prince Harry and Meghan Markle proved they’re the biggest hypocrites in the world over the weekend. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 427 and breaking today the start of a British political revolution. As Rupert Lowe launches Restore Britain as a national political party and within 48 hours amasses 50,000 members. For Donald Trump, his announcement came after descending those escalators in Trump Tower in New York. But for Rupert, as we just saw it, came on his 550-acre farm located in Gloucestershire as he promised mass immigration to the UK will be reversed, but didn't sugarcoat how difficult this will be. Here on the farm, I am now launching Restore Britain as a national political party. Restore Britain will not just stop mass immigration, we will reverse it.

Every single illegal migrant will be securely detained and then deported. It will be difficult and it will be painful. But I assure you it is possible. Cue hysteria, of course, from the reformists and MSM who believe there must only be one choice, an Islam and Tory infested Reform UK, which is now proudly boasting about its socialist policies. These are quite, I would say, socialist policies too. I mean, are you happy with that? I am actually.

So I think there's actually a case for, you know, if we are serious about re-industrialising our country and a renaissance of our industry, then I do think there is a need for state involvement. State involvement. That doesn't mean anything. What isn't? 9%?

Nine pushment. You're not going to be decisive in any constituencies, are you? All you're going to do is take votes off reform so that Labor get another. five years. At which point, Charlie, we're in the toilet. Mass deportations. Talk about the green mint gangs. Talk about banning halal slaughter. This is clickbait politics. This isn't what can really happen. I want a politician that understands what he's going to face when he gets into number 10.

But Katie Hopkins has this message. Instead of people having to vote reform with their nose held, which in my case is quite a big job. They can vote for something that they actually believe in. You know, ultimately, democracy and politics was about voting for something that you thought would make not your life better, but your children or your grandchildren's lives better. And that's where Rupert Lowe comes in. So is Rupert Lowe the man to reunite the right? And what's really going on, by the way, with the proposed merger with Ben Habib's Advance UK? I'm utterly delighted that Rupert Lowe has decided to convert Restore Britain to a political party.

It is a new political force that can deliver change at the ballot box that this country so desperately needs. Have to be honest, things are looking a little rocky on that front as we come on air today. I will share you an exclusive statement from Ben Habib in my digest next, then handily on the superstar panel today. advance UK college member Howard Cox. He joins us alongside Ex-Sensation Bernie Spofforth of if this is true, although obviously she is known as Artemis for now on the Elon Musk platform. And joining outspoken for the first time, Lee Mitchell, independent journalist of the LBL YouTube channel. Also coming up on the show today, Tommy Robinson flees the country after receiving this shock threat from ISIS delivered by UK.

cops. So we have received intelligence that amides this application that has stated that has a poster with them that and I'm encouraging others to commit violence against just to help him. And as pressure amounts for police to finally launch a police investigation into the Royal formerly known as Prince Andrew, Prince William, launching a PR offense of making it clear that he wanted the disgraced ex-royal banished after his newsnight interview debacle. Then in the Royal Uncanceled After Show on Substat, we'll team up with the Royal News Network to reveal why Prince Harry and Meghan Markle proved the other biggest hypocrites in the world over the weekend. You can sign up to

watch at www. outspoken.live. We'll also reveal the first union jackass of the week and greatest Britain too, but you get to vote right now for the worst Britain in the world today on the live chat on YouTube and it's our superstar panelists who have made these nominations. So for Mr. Howard Cox, Abdul Halim Khan, yes another Islamic religious leader using his powerful community position to brainwash and sexually abuse young girls. Lee Mitchell has gone for Nadim Zahawi for possibly the worst explanation of why London is unsafe I've ever seen when he was on LBC. Oh gosh, you've got to take a look at this. It was cringe. Yesterday I walked from my home in one of the most, you know, up market, you can call it, areas of London.

And an individual walk past me, I literally walked off the pavement into the middle of the road, kept a very close eye at 8 a.m. Right? To see whether... What was this, did he appear to be drunk? Did he appear to be aggressive? He just looked at, you know, like, you know, he hadn't slept for, you know, a week. Just say it, Nadim. Although actually right now,

Reforms, will probably not be putting Nadim on the media at all. Also nominated by Bernie Spofforth today, Steve Reed, for attempting to delay the local elections in having to reverse his decision because he was scared by new legal advice. And that is right. Also breaking today, can you believe the Stama's regime

have abandoned that plot to postpone the upcoming May local elections in 30 councils? This is because they knew they were going to lose against Reform UK in this judicial review, which was set to be heard later this week. Nigel Farage has now responded to this, saying the government tried to cancel democracy. They have been defeated. This is now a resignation matter for Steve Reed. It is.

But do you not just get the feeling that we are living in a banana republic? This is insanity. But the local elections take on a huge amount more importance now with lots of these parties is having to find about 1,000 candidates, 1,000 more candidates to run as a result of these cancellations. That is a good thing, though. We need more democracy, not less. Now, let's go. So now we have a choice. And to me, it is a stark one. You've got a woke, wet, watered-down version of conservatism, promoted by Nigel Farage and Reform UK, a party now infiltrated by failed Tories and Muslims. Or a full-fat Donald Trump-style revolution to save the disunited kingdom, which won't be easy,

God damn it, but also won't involve us capitulating to Islam and socialists and the elite Westminster and media class that got us into this fucking mess in the first place. So I know what I'm choosing. I know who I'm choosing. But the reformed propagandists and Farage loyalists don't even want us to have this debate. as a nation. Shut it down. They scream. Well, I ask, what are you afraid of? Who are you afraid of? What happened on Friday night was our equivalent of the Donald rolling down that escalator at Trump Tower when everyone other than the actual voters thought it was a joke because they were convinced

Jeff Bush, remember him, was going to romp home and secure the Republican nomination. But our Trump is a certain Rupert Lowe. And his Trump Tower is his 550-acre farm located in Gloucestershire as he dedicated his life to the mission of restoring Britain through a new political party. On a farm, you don't think in election cycles or headlines or polling. You think in seasons. You think in generations. In what you leave behind to those who come after you.

And that's why here on the farm, I am now launching, Restore Britain, as a national political party. I'm now going to dedicate my life to finding, organizing, funding and providing hundreds of qualified candidates to present to the British. people at the next general election. This process has already started, with invitations being issued to patriots in aligned political parties, reform, the conservatives, the SDP, advance and more. And in a key differentiating factor from reform, Rupert pledged that he will only be hiring outsiders. Every single one will be from well outside the existing political establishment. and every single one will understand the difficult decisions that need to be taken. Because there are no easy fixes.

I'm not going to tell you comforting lies about the condition of our country. I have only ever been honest with the British people and I will be straight with you now. What is necessary will be incredibly painful. But for the first time in a very long time, voters will have a genuine alternative which is truthful with them about the scale of what now has to be done. And I want to compare and contrast what we're hearing from Rupert and Restore Britain with what we now have from Reform UK. We're superwoman Soella Braverman.

A woman who I've always loved is now seemingly supporting socialist policies. Watch. These are quite, I would say socialist policies too. I mean, are you happy with that? I am actually. So I think there's actually a case for, you know, if we are serious about reindustrialising our country and a renaissance of our industry, then I do think there is a need for state involvement. And our industries, our heavy industries have been abandoned and unable to compete against, you know, a more powerful and ascendant east. And so I do think there is a very strong case that which I support. The benefit will be more. jobs. The benefit will be

more growth for our economy. And I do think that, you know, radical thinking needs to be, you know, put in place. And, you know, I support that policy. But radical thinking is not socialism, Suella, and you know that. You know that.

But this is something that is happening in a whole load of policy areas. According to Rupert's restoration plan, mass immigration, for example, won't just be stopped, but reversed, with an unrelenting approach comparable to Trump in the US with ICE. The first priority is to control who comes to our country, and more importantly, who stays in our country. Restore Britain will not just stop mass immigration, we will reverse it.

Every single illegal migrant will be securely detained and then deported. The message will be unrelenting. If you are in this country, without our permission, you will be removed. For the foreseeable future, far more people must leave Britain than arrive. If a foreign national is unable to speak English, lives in social housing, claims benefits, refuses to work, fails to integrate, commits crime, or even actively hates our way of life, life and wishes to do us harm, then they must leave or be made to leave. Restore Britain will make our communities safe again for women and children.

That, I promise you. If that means millions go, then millions go. Millions go. Millions go. Contrast that with Nigel Farage's honestly held views on mass deportations. By saying that you don't support, you know, mass deportations. If I say that's not mass deportations, you know, that's all. anybody would talk about for the next 20 years, so it's pointless even going there. So it's a rhetorical...

It's a political impossibility to deport hundreds of thousands of people. We simply can't do it. Okay, what about the measure of Islam? Well, I would say Rupert is unequivocal too with a policy approach that includes banning burkers, sharia law and cousin marriages. That will mean defending our culture. That will mean resisting the relentless creep of rancers. radical Islam. That will mean banning the burqa, outlawing Sharia law, blocking cousin marriages,

and re-imposing our Christian-based rule of law. A restore Britain government would legislate to ensure that no halal or kosher slaughter on British soil. This is Britain and we will do things our way. Again, let's compare that with the Reform UK approach to demography. We have a Muslim population in and growing by about 75% every 10 years. Right? That's just where we are. If we politically alienate the whole of Islam, we will lose. We will lose.

So how does one include them? We will lose. And he predicts that by 2063, Britain will be minority white British. Is that a concern of yours at all? Yeah, I don't think that's a... I mean, I haven't seen those predictions in 26 to 3. It's a long way off. It's not as long as long as long.

It's a few decades. Well, it's, I'm trying to do the maths quickly in my head. But, in most people, I'll be long gone, put it like that. Are you getting the difference yet? And it's a choice, as I say, it is a choice. Then I want to show you Rupert's closing pitch. This political party now exists for one reason to restore Britain. to make it a better, safer and more prosperous place for British men and women to raise their families.

It will be difficult and it will be painful. But I assure you it is possible. I hope you will consider joining me on this journey and becoming a member of our party. It is our country, it is now our collective responsibility to act. Together, we will restore Britain. Okay, so that is a man who I would argue wants to be Prime Minister more than anything. I think that's important, right?

He doesn't want to do it to enrich himself, but rather to save the country. Now, lots of focus saying that's not where Nigel is at at all. Watch this. I'm fascinated by your idea that Nigel Farage doesn't want to be Prime Minister. I don't think he will be.

So what's he... No, but you said he doesn't want to be? Yeah, I believe he doesn't want to be. Well, what's he doing then? What's the idea of all this? He's doing what he says he will do. He's reforming Britain. Britain needs reform, but I don't think it needs reform by reform.

Okay. All right. I just don't understand what you think Nigel Farage is up to if he doesn't want to be prime minister or if he doesn't want reform UK to succeed. He's just doing it for fun or what? I don't know. You need to ask him that.

Well, no, hang on. You bet. No, he would say I want to be prime minister, wouldn't he? Well, I've not heard him say that. I'm saying, but I've heard him say... Oh, you've never heard him say he wants to be prime minister. No, I've heard him say when reform have won the general election. He's always saying he wants to be prime minister.

He says it about 50 times a week. But of course, what's happening now is that the reformists want to shut down all debate. And that's not where I'm at. I really hate this idea that you've either got to be all in with Reform UK, oh, you're the enemy. Because I was really clear, I voted for Reform UK at the last election. Nigel Farage was my colleague and I thought my friend, I was the first to predict that he was going to become Prime Minister. But I think these reformers forget that it's actually Nigel, who unfortunately made so many of us politically homeless, waging war of those of us

on the right who very openly supported his party but were not prepared to, for example, turn on Tommy Robinson or condemn Rupert. Wednesday a Yusuf tried to get him locked up for hurty words. We're also not prepared to look away when a child jab pusher like Nadim Zahawi is parachuted in to a senior position within the party. But absolutely critical to the reform propaganda is GB News. and talk TV. My two former employers who now sadly exist as sort of reform propaganda channels pushing this sort of nonsense. And I'm not so stupid to think that clickbait statements on Twitter, mass deportations, talk about the grooming gangs, talk about banning halal slaughter,

this is clickbait politics. This isn't what can really happen. I want a politician that understands what he's going to face when he gets into number 10, which is, a very, very hostile civil service that will do their level best, as they have done with the Tories, to undo any sensibilities that they try and put forward. And to talk about a right-wing coalition now, it's too early in the day. Let's see what happens in the next 18 months, because this country is heading down the pan far faster than even I imagine. Okay, so if we believe in mass deportation, something that the Trump administration has actually done in the US, it's now just click back. Okay. Then there's Mark Dolan. Do you're in.

Remember Mark Dolan who supported Fisci Rishi Sunak to be Prime Minister? I was actually at GB News at the time. He does what his bosses tell him to do. At that point, it was like, we need someone to support Fisci Rishi. So he said, I'll do it. Now he's following his Paymaster's orders to support Farage at Talk TV. Before we launched, we ran some private poll. Polling was done, which suggested that a party led by Rupert Lowe would poll at about 9, 10%.

And that was before we launched. So we're going to see how that increases. What isn't nine percent, nine pashment? You're not going to be decisive in any constituencies, are you? All you're going to do is take votes off reform so that Labour get another five years. At which point, Charlie, we're in the toilet. Thank you very much. As I said, Mark, the Conservatives and Reform are both.

This isn't a game, Charlie. They're both in a mode of consolidation. This is not the traitors. It's not a TV show. This is people's lives. They want change. And all you're doing is taking votes off Farage, who ain't perfect. who ain't perfect, but at least he's a conservative.

Let me speak here. So the conservatives and reform are both in a mode of consolidation, right? The conservatives have fairly openly said that they're looking to win about 60 seats in the next general election in the south of England among essentially Lib Dem slash conservative voters who like the Tories tax policies, for example. Reform equally think that they have

the east of England, the north of England, essentially the white working class and beyond, that vote bound up. And so they're increasingly drifting towards the centre. And so neither of these parties, which should be the vehicles for the rescuing of this country and serving the interests of the British people. It took Katie Hopkins, someone cancelled everywhere like me, and owned by no one like me, to speak some real sense.

Shouting, Restore will split the vote. That is incorrect. Because Restore is a long-term proposition, 27, 28, 29. And by then, many things will happen, including mergers of the biggest parties on the right. But for now, instead of people having to vote reform with their nose held, which in my case is quite a big job, they can vote for something that they actually believe in. You know, ultimately, democracy and politics was about voting for something that you thought would make not your life better, but your children or your grandchildren's lives better.

And that's where Rupert Lowe comes in. So I so applaud Rupert Lowe for having the personal resilience after what he's been put through by Lee and Zia and the rest to stand up and create this party. I so applaud Ben Habib for parking his ego and handing over almost the mechanics of the political party that he's built up in order that they can create something that can move at speed and deliver as a political party when the time comes. And I'm so thrilled that this will be a party not of recycled failed politicians that got us into this mess, but of successful business leaders, of farmers, of ordinary people who want to work hard and do the best for this country. And so I say to you, do not worry about splitting the vote. Because in truth, Nigel never wanted to be Prime Minister anyway. Think about the fact that this is an alternative political party that you don't have to vote with what is your nosehead.

Many of us would never vote for Nadim Sahawi because he's a monster. He forced vaccines into children. Many of us could never honestly give a vote to Zia or Lee because we know how they treated Rupert. This is a political party you can vote with with your heart. And that's what matters. It's a party you can actually believe in. And I leave you with this.

When a man stands at his own farm gate and tells you quietly what he's going to do, then believe me, he will do that. And he'll probably even do it on a John Deere. Well done to Rupert, well done to Ben. And well done to all the brilliant people who know that they finally found something they can believe in with Restore. And I so agree. Because I'm absolutely sick of being told,

oh, you have to vote for this party who is now capitulating to Islam, pitchulating to socialist, and you've got to do it because we have no choice. We need the choice. And reformers clearly freaking out about this, because they know that they've led us all down on the so-called ride. And they've done it because they thought that we were not going to have another choice, and now we do.

So the irony is that Rupert's biggest enemy, Zia Yusuf, the bloke who effectively bought himself in to Reform UK with a £200,000 donation and then reported Rupert Lowe to the police wanted him to go to jail for some type of political row has now opened the door on GB News, no less, to a Restore Reform UK deal. Are you worried about Rupert Lowe setting up this rival group, Restore UK?

It's just happened quite a lot of the audience maybe following what Mr Lowe is doing now, he's out of reform. Well, look, it's a democracy. People are entitled to start parties, and we'll see what level of support will be achieved. I mean, look, the first past the post system, you know, someone who was chairman of this party for a considerable period of time, you know,

it is really, really difficult. And I think people underestimate how hard it is. I mean, Nigel himself, if you remember, tried a number of times to just become an MP, let us alone get us into this position. So, you know, look, all we'll do is continue to make our argument. for the right to be this divided. You've got Rupert Lowe doing his thing,

reform doing your thing, the Conservatives doing their thing. We talked earlier about the prospect of some kind of lab, lib, lib, green coalition. If that beat reform on its own, you'd have to start doing deals with the right, didn't you? Well, that's a big if, right?

And in that hypothetical scenario, you'd have to do it with the patriotic thing. But ultimately, reform is reform... Well, no, hold on. Reform is led north of 200 opinion polls. in a row. The average of our lead in the polls consistently is nine to ten points. We are on course for a general election. If the alternative was the coalition that I've just described, you just said something about patriotic duty. Are you saying that if it came to it, that the right

would have to unite to see off a progressive alliance? Well, I think as soon as you're in the territory of that conversation, frankly, this is why I came into politics, I'd be extremely concerned about the way the country is going to end up, because there's nothing, frankly, right about the Tory party in terms of how they've governed. Well, that is true. But I would argue now that, frankly, there is nothing right about reform UK either. That's not to say, by the way, that I think everything is going to be straightforward from here on in. And you know, I'm an independent reporter.

I don't support any particular party. And so I am concerned about what is going on in all of this with the Advance UK. which is led by the magnanimous Ben Habib, whose initial reaction to the announcement from Rupert, quite rightly, won massive respect. I'm utterly delighted that Rupert Lowe has decided to convert, restore Britain to a political party. It is a new political force that can deliver change at the ballot box that this country so desperately needs. And that is why I set up Advance UK last year. Indeed, when I set it up, I set it up with Rupert Lowe,

contemplated his leader. So I am over the moon that he has come round to sharing my view that a new political force, one that can deliver change at the ballot box, is what is required. Eat. And with that in mind, I'm going to be calling a meeting of the College of Advance UK, the body of people who are charged with the guidance of our party, the heart, soul, conscious, intellectual ballast, if you like, of Advance UK, I'm going to be calling a meeting of that body of people in the next few weeks to determine the terms on which Advance will merge with Restore Britain. And when it comes to the terms of the merger between Advance UK and Restore Britain, I want to make one thing clear, it matters not what my position is post any such merger. I didn't get into politics

in order to politically advance myself. I got into politics to save this. country, to do it in a serious principled way, a way that will sustain this country into the years, centuries ahead as a secure country, never again being threatened by the forces with which it's currently being threatened. So it's not about me. Frankly, it's not even about Rupert Lowe. It's about getting the right force in politics together, and that's what we will do. And I do love the fact that Ben Habib never puts his ego first. But then last night, Andrew Bridgen posted, it appears that Ben Habib has been misleading his members and the public

regarding the prospects of any merger between his party Advance UK and Restore Britain. So obviously the first thing I did this morning once I'd seen that is ask Ben Habib what was going on and what was the truth about those rumours. He messaged me this statement, which was more than happy for me to share with outspoken viewers. And he says, an open offer has been made to restore to which we have not had any response. The ball is firmly in Restore's court. Once we have a response, I will call a meeting of the college to discuss the position. Right now, all focus must be on winning Gorton and Denton. Of course, Nick Buckley is standing there for France UK versus Matt Goodwin for Reform UK.

and Ben Habib said, it is business as usual. Advance is a first-class party. The best structured in the country, perhaps the best structured party ever. We stand for our mission's statement, which must not be compromised. So I would argue it's not looking like a done deal yet, is it? Which does obviously risk some type of fracture on the right.

But there is so much more to celebrate, though. I mean, the Guardian. Look at their coverage of this. They're definitely worried. The UK far right lines up behind Rupert Lowe in Challenge to Reform. Good Lord, they are worried. What? The UK far right? Like Duncan Bannentine. Duncan Bannentine, the BBC Dragons Den dude.

Really good guy who's right behind the... Is the Guardian going to call him far right now? And Restore Britain, look, they're making it clear. This is not some type of spoiler party. They are in it to win it. We are not in this to win a few seats or act as a pressure group. We are doing this to win the next general election. There are three years.

Let's get to work. And the bookies have immediately taken note. And what you've got to realize about the book is very often they move before the polls. With Basil the Great revealing that Rupert-Lowe's odds on becoming Prime Minister have dropped massively, he's now 16 to 1 at William Hill, placing him second behind Farage among opposition leaders. He's ahead of both Kemi Badenok and Zach Polanski. Not bad for day three. And there are some huge endorsements as well.

Rupert has received the backing of Elon Musk, who said he was the only one who would actually do it. Sensibly, he also suggested, though, that the party combined efforts with advance. Then there's Tommy Robinson, who said when asked who he thought should be the next British Prime Minister, wrote Rupert Lowe is the only man in this fight. Farage wants us to prepare for the Islamic takeover. And in a sign of Rupert's star power, even international stars like Glenn Beck, the Independent News sensation and Brian Kilmead of Fox News are noticing.

Look, there he's just watched the video and said, Love this guy. Indeed, Rupert's video has surged in terms of viewership even compared to Nigel Farage's launch video as Reform UK leader. And a Find Out Now poll already has the party registering

at 10%. So behold the start of a British political revolution. As Rupert Lowe launches Restore Britain as a national political party and within 48 hours amasses 50,000 members. Good evening, everybody. Forgive my slightly scruffy farm attire, but I've got some excellent news for all those who are following what we're doing at Restore Britain. We've just gone through 50,000 members, which is absolutely fantastic. It shows that people, people, are following what we're doing and they are supportive of what we're doing, which I just can't thank them enough for.

What I would say is that it's now you can't rely on a small group of people to carry the burden of what needs to be done. So I appeal to all of you. Join us in as many numbers as you can, but spread the word, start to challenge when you think things are wrong. Don't accept everything. Do it legally, do it fairly, do it in a British way. But please, let's spread the word. Let's collectively take on this malaise that has infected Britain. We need to get rid of it.

So have a good evening. Good luck next week. And thank you for watching. Now let me bring in today's superstar panel. Bernie Spofforth of if this is true, Lee Mitchell of L, B, L, and How. Howard Cox with me. Howard, you are many things, of course. But in terms of this discussion, you are a member of the Advance UK College. And you have posted earlier today on this saying

over the weekend, I've had dozens of private messages calling on the right to come together. But many of these self-declared politically experts are in fact doing exactly the reverse and encouraging division. My position is clear and has never wavered in 30 years. I look at policies, not sound bites, political parties I have supported have moved away from me and the majority's needs and desires. Advanced UK and Restore Britain must come together. For the sake of decent, honest, hardworking people, that is my wish. And I hope the adults in the room recognize that before it's too late. The political philosophies of both parties are separated by a mere micro-godness of a message of difference. It doesn't have to be a marriage of convenience,

but instead it should be a conjoined partnership respecting both political east. ethoses. So what's going on, Howard, because in that first message, Ben seemed to make out as if this was just inevitability, there's going to be a merger. He actually spoke about when, not if. But now in this exclusive note to us today here on outspoken, he's saying, we have not heard anything back from Restore Britain. Our philosophies have to be followed. So what's the truth here? What's really going on behind the scenes? Well, I'm privy to some of the things behind the scenes, but what Ben has said is what is actually, you know, is being talked about within of Arch UK's hierarchy. And that is simple of this. The offer has been made to restore Britain to

Rupert to come back to us and say, what do you want from us? And we've had no response. Now, there are 40,000 members, which, you know, bear in mind if Rupert had taken up the invitation to be leader of a Vance UK back last, you know, in June of last year when it was launched, we wouldn't be sitting in the situation. We'd have a party probably of 100,000 members. And that is what I find a bit sad. I'm a massive fan of Rupert, you probably appreciate. Rupert was there when I stood for London mayor. He was the only one that came when I stood for reform. to support me on the day, on the ballot box day, when I put my tick in my own ballot box.

Yes. He was the only one there. I didn't have anyone else there. I've got a huge amount of respect for Rupert. And in fact, I'm going to, the court tomer, you know, the Royal Justice, a court tomorrow in the Strand. He's got a court case on it. And I've been invited to go along and witness what's going on there.

So we're not in, I'm not being ostracized by Rupert, but I don't understand why he hasn't come back to bed, even privately, to say where we stand. We can't just all the hard work and the £100,000 that Ben's put into this campaign. And bear in mind, you heard Rupert speak by those lovely gates in his Gloucester farm, virtually actually mailed the same stuff that Ben mentioned at the Emanuel Centre last week on the Saturday. I think you were there, Ben. Yes, I was.

I was. And it was inspiring. And that is the thing. I want Advance UK to be a part of this personally. I do because I think Advance UK is brilliant and I think it's full of brilliant people. But I guess Bernie Spofforth, what's really interesting to me is that there has been a change since Rupert announced this. There's something about Rupert as a leader.

He's our Donald Trump. I really do believe that. But also, there are just the practicalities, right? Like, he has a seat in Parliament. that makes a difference. It means the mainstream media can't completely ignore this in the way that they have ignored Advance UK. Oh, but they will do.

They'll try and ignore it as much as possible and smear it as much as possible because that's the armour, right? For me, I like Ben very much and I like Rupert very much, probably mainly because they're my type of people, they're business people, they've been in business for a long time.

I think the key point of what Rupert said that everybody needs to remember is forget all the other bollocks and the noise. He said it will hurt, it will hurt. And the problem that Rupert's got and the problem that Ben's got, that reformed, by the way, have figured out, is that people will not vote to hurt themselves. 60% of this country takes benefits and welfare from the government or are employed by the government. Within the next five to 10 years, 60% of white-collar workers will be unemployed. We don't have the tax revenue to support everybody. We are in a terrible, terrible situation.

And I know that migration and illegal migration and welfare drain is, the big newspaper headline. I get that. I hear it. I agree with it. But behind the scenes, we are in the worst financial predicament you could ever believe. Britain is owned by the banks. Totally. But Bernie, that's why, though, I loved this message, because Rupert Lowe said, this is going to hurt. It's going to be hard. And compare that to what we're seeing with Reform UK. And Swala Bravman actually sitting there. I'm shocked.

I mean, I know Sullah Bravman. She's not a socialist, but she's having to embrace socialist policies. And I'm not up for that. Yes. Yes, she is. And it makes, and it's complete bullshit because she knows as reformer, have just figured that trying to get Britain out of the mess it's in,

and don't forget, it's taken 60 years to get here. And over the last 15, it's been absolutely embedded through every part of the civil service and in every institution, it will take more than one political cycle to get out. And if, let's say Rupert gets in, right, let's say he wins a general election. In the end of five years, when the new general election comes along, he'll be voted out. And they all know that, because what takes 50 years or 60 years to get into can't take four years to undo. and that's the problem.

And it's the problem I've got with all the parties. They're lying because if they tell the truth, they won't be elected. Indeed. Now, Lee Mitchell, great to have you on Outspoken for the first time. I believe, and I hope this is the case, actually, because you know I love to have a fair and balanced debate.

You're more in the June Slater camp, aren't you? And I noted that Basin Bougie, one of your co-host, good friend of mine, she wasn't happy with this announcement over the weekend, Lee. She posted congratulations to Rupert Lowe for further dividing the vote and giving the Uni Party a clean win. Actually, giving the British public a chance at seeing a patriotic parliament, party in parliament, woohoo, what a smart move.

So she was annoyed by this, Lee. Are you? Yeah, I mean, I agree with pretty much what the other two have just said. I mean, I've known Howard for a number of years now. he knows me and I agree with what he's saying I agree with what but I kind of I kind of agreed with what June said and not agreed with what June said it wasn't a complete agreement the fact of the matter is is that when I don't know if many people don't know this but I only found out recently that we haven't had a prime minister serve a full term in this country

since Tony Blair that's 25 odd years and in that time, what we've seen is a complete and utter basket case of a country where we've gone from one direction to another direction. People will say, oh yeah, but it's 14 years of the Tories. But the thing is, we had half a dozen different PMs at the Tory Pies, all seeing different hymn sheets. So like what Bernie has just said, this is not going to be a problem that's going to be solved just by one election over four or five years. This is going to take decades to solve every single problem. What I agreed with what June

said was is that the problem we got here and as you know, Dan, is the civil service. Whoever gets into power, it doesn't matter whether it's Rupert, whether it's Ben, whether it's Nig. Whoever gets into power are going to have an enormous fight on their hands with the civil service because the civil service will just not like

they're going to see. Totally. But that's why I think there's this difference though, because I would argue that Rupert is saying we're going to war with you. That is a Trump-like approach. Personally, I think that's what we need. Nigel is thinking, oh, we're going to be able to bring these people around to our side. You're not.

But there are other people who are annoyed about this too, actually, on the right. People I really like, and it upsets me, actually, that they don't think it's okay to have a debate. I mean, I'll give you the example, Andrew Lawrence, the comedian. I think he's brilliant. So funny. But he posted on this, Lowe has most likely condemned us all to another term of Labor government. Those are not the actions of a man who cares about the same. country. And then he said, on reflection, not bothered about restore Britain, supporters all seem a

mixture of furious, unhinged and autistic, fringe outfit at best as you were. And that's what I hate with Reform UK supporters. It's like, I'm not going at you personally like that. I just think we have a difference in policy perspective. Anyway, Katie Hopkins fired back in him politely and said, Andrew, your comment applies to tactical voting based on the current offering in this. short term. In the mid to longer term, decent British people finally have a party they can place faith in. Holding your nose and voting tactically will never beat voting with both head and heart. And Howard, I have to say, I totally agree with that. I do. But what I found really disappointing because I love Andrew Lawrence and I'm going to keep loving Andrew Lawrence, just like I'm going to keep loving

June Slater and Adam Brooks and all of these people. But why are you attacking us? Because we're not welcome in Reform UK. So what did you expect that we were just going to sit outside and watch our country be destroyed and watch this party go down a woke and wet path? I mean, I saw Carl Benjamin, the brilliant Carl Benjamin of Lotus. He's just saying that the weekend to Alex Phillips, what did you think we were going to do? Like, we're fighting for our country. You can't just tell us to shut up for the next three years. Well, look, something like 45, 46. 8% people didn't vote in the last election for a start. And in that situation, and they're politically homeless.

And what Liam Bernadette has said is very, very right. We're in a situation we've got to take on the blob, but we've also got to take on the lefty lawyers. You know, we're all talking about what's happening in Europe, you know, and we're in Stama getting closer to Europe again. All the liars are being thrown. And I just take a little bit of exceptional what Bertie said, that parties tell lies.

One of the reasons why I'm with, well, advanced UK, and Ben is simply because I've never met more honest politician and the way he operates. Is it phenomenal? Unfortunately, as you probably both know, I stood for reform, you know, for London mayor. I also came second in general election last year down in Dover. But I was, you know, absolutely ostracized

simply because of my right for free speech in supporting Tommy Robinson. And I had to resign because, you know, otherwise I would be actually excluded, you know, suspended from the party, thrown out of the party, simply for a thing that I agree with, because I am a supporter of Tommy Robinson and why can't we do this? Now, that man, Tommy supports Advance UK. He also supports Robert Murdoch,

uh, Robert, sorry, that's a Freudian slip. Rupert Lowe. And from my, from my point of view, we need to be a conjoined party with two leaders at the moment. I believe that, you know, what will happen is Ben would happy be a deputy leader and, and, uh, uh, Rupert Lowe would head the whole thing together. But I also seeing people like Conner Tomlinson saying, you know, there's no democracy in this thing, but we've got to have that. It's a hard policies we've got to have. It's going to hurt, yes, but we've got to have a democracy within the party.

And that's what I'm not what I'm seeing so far with Restore Britain. Yeah, that is a concern. You've got to have a laugh sometimes, right? You've got to have a laugh. It was actually June Slater, believe it or not, who pointed this out to me on a WhatsApp group I'm in. And this is funny. This is from David Curtin, who leads.

the Heritage Party. And he summed up the situation with reform, restore and advance. Nigel hates Ben. Ben hates Nigel, Nigel hates Rupert, Rupert hates Nigel, Ben loves Rupert. Rupert's fans would deport Ben.

I just thought, that is very funny. You've got to laugh at this sometimes, right? Yeah, I mean, what I found fascinating over the last couple of days, but also, very concerning was the amount of ethno-nationalists

that have made Rupert Lowe their new pin-up and the second coming of Adolf like what I mean you just you showed Bates and Bougy's tweet of just a couple of minutes ago and these people

that are coming out and supporting Rupert Lowe have constantly attacked BASED and Bucci on a regular basis I've seen the messages that she gets sent they said they're going to break into a house and they're going to hang her. They call her a chimp. They call her a fat, retarded monkey.

So I'm kind of concerned with the support that Rupert Lowe is getting from a certain segment of our country. That's what concerns me most of all. And until he addresses that, then I'm going to find it very difficult to get behind him in whatever he's doing. I've seen this is something that reform are pushing. Bernie. We've seen it from Matt Goodwin over the weekend, this idea that restore Britain supporters are racist. I come at this from a different point of view because what I love about Advance UK is they said, look, anyone can be part of our party. We're not going to sort of do that offense, archaeology and try and judge, oh, this person's views are unpalatable, so we're going to kick them out.

But do you think this is going to be an effect of a tackline, Bernie, trying to say, oh, restore Britain supporters are racist because I do think we're going to see a lot of that. Well, it's work before. It's what the media do all the time, isn't it? They just call anybody who doesn't agree with the narrative a racist. So it's no surprise to me whatsoever that that's the tactics used if they are being used. And can I just say that based in Buzi is a babe? I really love her. She's great. She's amazing. And no one should have to put up with that abuse, but abuse seems to be the new way of deciding who's in your club. And I just think, you know, all of these parties talk about Christian values and none of them show any of them. So if you're

really going to talk about being a Christian, you should remember that it was Jesus that said, love your enemy, love the people you disagree with. So it's all bullshit, isn't it? Because it isn't about Christianity. It isn't about anything other than power. And the media and other parties will use every tactic they possibly can. Meanwhile, we'll fall to pieces because we are literally falling apart. It's insane to me. In a democracy, you should vote for the party whose policies you most align with, you understand and you believe they can deliver. So if you think that's reform, vote for them. If you think it's advance, vote for them. Reform, Tories, Labor, even the tip whisperer, right? If they've got the policies you most align with, then vote for them.

All of the other stuff is fluff. That's what I honestly believe. hugely worrying story has developed over the weekend and I'm going to try and bring some insight to this because I have been in touch with Tommy Robinson over the past 24 hours but this is just so shocking to me he posted on X I'm a priority target or ISIS I have now left the country I need time to work things out for my safety and the safety of my family I will probably have to relocate this. I will update you when I can. And you just have to think about this for a second and realize that when Jim Ratcliffe, so Jim Ratcliffe is absolutely slammed for saying immigrants have colonized this country and then you have someone like Tommy Robinson being driven out

because of an ISIS threat, something has gone very, very wrong in our political discourse. Of course, there was no outrage. Indeed, no coverage of this from the mainstream media whatsoever from talk TV, from GB News. I find it sickening. This is one of our most successful activists. You can disagree with him if you want. But you should be absolutely concerned in a democracy that a man who is speaking up and has spent his life, his adult life, speaking up against Islamist extremism.

is now forced to leave British soil because the police cannot protect him and he is not allowed to protect himself. And I think what's so effective about Tommy is that he opens up this world, right, in a way that I wouldn't do. And it's the beauty of him. It's the joy of the way that he connects with people. Because if I got a call like this from the police, I would be shit scared. I would be terrified and I'd be really worried, and I wouldn't be sharing it with the world. But what Tommy did was immediately record that phone conversation, and I think it's telling because I think it shows you a little bit about the British deep state. Look, I'm not criticizing the policeman on the phone

who seems like a lovely and kind gentleman. But what I want you to think about during this phone call is, what if this was you being told by the police that you are now an ISIS threat, but there's nothing that we can do to help you. We just want you to know. We just want you to know. And we actually probably want you to know because it's much easier for us

if you're out the country. Listen to this phone conversation. Speaking. Gregory, it's Tommy Robinson. Hello, Mr Robinson. How are you? I'm not bad. I understand you've been looking for me.

You're looking for me last night. Yes, yes. It's a discussion with you not regarding me of interstate or anything like bad at all. It's discussed information. that we have received concerning yourself. So we have received intelligence that an ISIS publication

has stated, has posted within that, I'm encouraging others to commit violence against yourself. What ISIS publication? It's called Yalgar. What's that, a terrorist man? It's one of the kind of, like, their publications essentially, like their essays, they post out manifestos and another... And that's an official...

And that's an official or is this publication? As far as well, it's prescribed material, so this has come from kind of a counter-terrorism. It's like he was getting a phone call from the gas company or something about an unpaid bill. And so Tommy quite rightly was like, well, what can I do about this? Listen. Can I get a copy of this? Can I get a copy of that what it is? Unfortunately not.

If I try and download that, is that a terrorist defence? I think it will be prescribed material. I've not had direct insight of it because of that. That has to come from, I said, have a car terrorist. Okay. Colleys. All right. Yeah, and it's just to remind that, you know, because of this information, it doesn't authorise you to carry weapons, anything like that to take any preemptive action against others, if you were any action.

So I cannot, so just to clarify, so named in an ISIS manual to be targeted by ISIS terrorists, but I cannot have anything to protect myself. Just to clarify that, because I think I'm not allowed to position myself in any sort of armour of defence to have a weapon or defend myself. In public. Within your own private home, obviously there are access to the things but no, not out in public. Now Norman Fenton listened to that call and wrote,

no doubt this ISIS threat against Tommy Robinson will be strongly condemned by all politicians, mainstream media and Muslim groups. Oh no, they are all too busy condemning Jim Ratcliffe. And he was completely correct. There was absolutely no condemnation about the ISIS threat against Tommy Robinson.

Andrew Bridgen, ex-conservative MP, wrote, The fact that Tommy has to flee the country due to an Osmond warning that ISIS are planning to kill him as a disgrace to this country. Tommy feels safer outside the UK than inside. Who have we let into the UK? Why can't our police guarantee his protection? Now, I know where Tommy is at the moment. I've spoken to him over the past 24 hours.

He is doing okay and he is considering what's next. This is the video that he made as he fled. So I'm out of the UK and for the foreseeable future, I guess, in a minute, until I work out what the hell to do. I guess that's the... This is probably the most serious, because this is a manual that goes out to every ISIS operative, every terrorist downloads it. It's like the Inspire magazine, which was Al-Qaeda's one, this is ISIS's one. And then they're told what to do and who to target. So I guess I'll be a target, so any of my...

I'd not guess I am their target, so any of my locations where I be, I simply can't be in the UK. because I'll be put in my loved ones in danger. So I've left the UK for the foreseeable future. I'm not aware. I'll be long term at a minute. I just got the hell out of there. I need to sort lots of things out now. So suitcase ready.

Titch you one and all because I need to back, really. But yeah, thank you to anyone who supports me in these situations, yeah? To my service our panel, Bernie Spofforth, Lee Mitchell and Howard Cog. Howard, you are a supporter of Tommy Robinson. He really was the reason why you ended up leaving or feeling like you were being forced out of Reform UK. And the radio silence over this, Howard, from our political class, from our media elites, makes me sick. Tommy Robinson feels like he's not safe in the United Kingdom and no one's talking about it. it. Absolutely right. And it makes me feel physically sick too. I mean, I've been in contact with them, giving him support, which means nothing really what I can do. But, you know, we know from the

mainstream media what they're like. I was a regular contributor to the mainstream media in both GB News, talk TV, the sun, all those sorts of things. But as soon as I put my head above the parapet and said, I support Tommy Robinson, suddenly I'm completely being cancelled. And that's what's very, very sad from my point of view. I just hope he and his family, you know, everyone around him, but I hope he's getting good advice and support from people around him. I sometimes worry there are people around him that aren't giving him the sort of support around him. And I'm not alone in thinking that, but I hope, I hope and I pray that he's okay. And it's a shame. And he asked the illogical question, can I have the right to defend myself? And it's a shame that

we're not allowed to do that. That's one reason why probably he's moving abroad. So he can have that right to defend himself. Yeah, I mean, Bertie, my sense is that this was all a pretty terrifying moment, even though it has happened before. This is ISIS. It's another level, isn't it? This is the first Osman threat that he has received since Charlie Kirk's assassination. I mean, Ezra Levant of Rebel News has always said that he fears at some point Tommy is going to be taken out. But I just think it really shocks me, Bernie, that if this were another public figure, there would be such outrage over this. But with Tommy, it's just like the elites don't want him to be here anyway.

I think it's just desperately sad. And I think he looked like a desperately sad and very upset man. I don't care whether you support Tommy Robinson or you like what he says or you don't like what he says. that doesn't matter. This is a British citizen who is being threatened with death by ISIS, and the government has said nothing, and the press have said nothing, even though we've had politicians. And yeah, I think you could call Tommy Robinson a politician or an activist. We've had MPs murdered. We've even put a teacher from battling in, you know, protective, custody somewhere and no one knows where he is because he can't even go back home. But a British citizen

for his views has had to flee the country because the police say, yeah, sorry, mate, we don't know what to do about it. Well, how does that leave the rest of us? Because even if it's not ISIS, I know there are many women in this country and you know them too, Dan, who are threatened with death daily by trans people. Yet the British go. government does nothing. What we're supposed to do is say, really sorry, we won't say those things you don't agree with again. And it's an awful position to be in. Look, like I said at the beginning, it doesn't matter what you think of Tommy Robinson's views. What matters is he's a British citizen and Britain cannot and will not protect him. What does that say about us as a country? Because I don't

think that ship would be happening in the States, do you? Absolutely not. Lee Mitchell, what's your view on this? Yeah, it's a terribly sad state of affair. I feel more for his children and his partner, whoever that may be. Tommy's a, I mean, he's got skin thicker than an army boat, so I'm sure he's, as much as he'd probably be worried, he'd probably more concerned with his family than.

and he has himself. But again, I go back to what I said, this is the basket case that this country is now in, isn't it? I mean, the only time this should be really happening is if Tommy Robinson was in either Pakistan or in Afghanistan or even Israel. The fact that he's had to leave the UK because ISIS, foreign terrorist organization are threatening him in his home country is just it begs. or belief. And it goes what you said about Jim Ratcliffe, about the way he was out of being saying with the word colonism. I mean,

what's the difference? You say colonised and then everybody hates you for it, but yet then when people come out and turn around, which I've seen and said, like, we need to diversify the countryside because it's too white, I mean, I don't see the difference, you know. and yeah it's just it's just terrible it's a terrible state of affairs now i mean i've got a lot of

respect for tommy robinson um he gave based on booty a platform you know um he he's he's spoken to her numerous cases i mean he's looked after her when she's been in hotels on a road and that you know i i can't thank him enough for doing what he did for her exactly and all of those people who say he's racist. You know? Danny Kruger from Reform UK going on the BBC and describing him as an ethno-nat and saying that

Reform UK stand against everything that Tommy Robinson stands for. Well, that actually means you stand for Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs. It's mad. And I think it's really nice, actually, that you provide that color about Basin Bougier because if Tommy Robinson were a racist, why on earth would he have helped launch the career of Baste and Bougie?

Yeah, and I'll go back to what I said, if I can quickly, Dan. Please. You know, they go on about Tommy Robinson or he seems to be the boogeyman in the media. But yet when it comes to the people, like I said earlier on, who give Baste and Bougy the most nastiest amount of abuse I've ever seen from someone online, they don't particularly want to bring that up in any way, shape or form, you know. But like I said, ISIS shouldn't even be operating in this country. they shouldn't be giving death threats to people in this country.

They should, you know, but as I said, this is the basket case that this country's been in for the last 25 years. I think we've got about 40,000 known terrorists in this country as far as I'm aware. Yeah, so we need long-term leadership. We need, you know, all these people, Rupert and everybody else, they're all singing the right hymns. But like I said, whoever gets into power is going to have an awfully hard job on their hands because the civil service are not going to make it easy for anyone to get rid of these people who are causing these problems they're giving to the likes of Tommy Robinson.

Prince William has just declared war on his own father, King Charles. This is over the Andrew Mountbatten-Winds scandal, which is getting worse by the day, as there is now growing political pressure on the Thames Valley Police or the Metropolitan Police to just launch an investigation

into the Royal, formerly known, as Prince. And certainly when you look at the Sunfront page and you think about the fact that you now have a former Prime Minister in Gordon Brown looking quite closely at these flight logs and you have revelations like this, the gross code word that Prince Andrew used to bring women into the palace. He would use the phrase Mrs. Windsor will arrive shortly please later up when he wanted. young women arriving at the palace. And when you see at the weekend that Stephen Parkinson, who is now the head of the DPP, remember that's Slippery Stama's former job, going public to say nobody is above the law,

not even members of the royal family, then this is hugely significant. And what you're going to see now, and it's not pretty, and it's not pleasant, and I know lots of people don't like it, is a briefing war between king and heir. Yes, they are father and son, but they believe that their legacies are on the line as a result of Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, and so they are determined to try and protect themselves.

So I'm going to show you two ways that this has happened over the past couple of days. First, we see Jonathan Dimbleby, close friend of King, Charles, you might remember he wrote that bombshell biography back in the 90s where he admitted adultery with Camilla Parker Bowles for the first time. He appears on Newsnight to say, well, of course the king wants Andrew to cooperate with the authorities. Watch. Just to go back to that testifying point, obviously you think he should testify, but do you

think the king thinks he should testify? I would strongly believe, I can't say for 100% certain. would strongly believe that he would very much like him to testify, but knows that to stand up and say that is a hiding to nothing. Now, that runs in contrast to the briefing that Williams team have given Russell Myers. He is the royal editor of The Daily Mirror, but has written a new book about William and Catherine, which has currently been serialized in his newspaper.

and the big messaging out of this from William is that he wanted Andrew gone and Charles attacked him for it and check this out, he wanted Andrew gone seven years ago. Watch. What sent William on a collision course with the late Queen and his father Charles was his view of how to deal with Andrew.

He thought he should be banished from royal life before the rot setting, he said. And he was very, very determined in that view. He thought that if Andrew wasn't put out of the picture, if he wasn't exiled from royal life, then his association with the wider institution could be hugely, hugely damaging for the monarchy. And here is the revelation in some more detail from the Daily Mirror

that reports Prince William never liked staying on the family, Andrew, after aggressive outbursts, Prince William's negative view of his disgraced uncle goes back further than the former dukes fall from grace. This new book reveals. And it says that William demanded Andrew be immediately banished from the royal fold before the rot set in.

In an alternative dimension, Andrew probably thought there would be a way back into public life. this is according to the palace source, if the scandal or the headlines died down, but it would have always had to be while his brother was king. William didn't think either of them, referring to Andrew and Sarah Ferguson, his wife, should be anywhere near the family, publicly or otherwise, but he was overruled by his father. And indeed, this book goes on to report that Charles actually put William in his place

in a tense showdown over banishing Andrew. from the royal family. He wanted it to be immediate and the Prince of Wales appealed to his father and to the late queen to take drastic action in the aftermath of that BBC Newsnight interview with Emily Maitlis. As a source said, once you understand the fact that everything that happens in the here and now affects everything in the future, William's future, it is very easy to put yourself in his shoes. He never much liked his uncle and wanted him out of the picture immediately. before the rot further set in. William's view was that Andrew got himself into the whole mess,

so he should be left to his own devices to sort it out away from the family. While Andrew had always denied the allegations both publicly and privately to his family, another palace source close to William, and I'll just give you the background here, Russell Myers is a member of the Royal Rota. This briefing is coming directly from William's team. And they said the Prince of Wales was adamant the whole episode would never go away. And despite how others may have felt, there was absolutely no upside and Andrew being protected. His view was crystal clear. Andrew shouldn't be anywhere near the family under any circumstances, not by association,

not at family functions anywhere. Every single time, there was a new revelation which no one knew when it was coming or what the next one would be. It was a stain on all the family. So Bernie Spofforth, let me get to my superstar panel, of course, Howard Cox, Lee Mitchell, and Bernie Spofforth of if this is true with me. Bernie, it is astonishing in some ways that King Charles did let it get to this point. The release of apparently all of the Epstein files, although we know they haven't all been released. And we know that names are still being redacted as we go.

Indeed, some of the files, which originally named Andrew when he was released, when they were released last week, have now been redacted. So I don't think we've seen everything for a single second. I mean, remember Elon Musk says there's video. Bernie, there is video of Epstein. And some of these famous men having sex with the women, well, is there a video of Andrew, for example? We know that there were hidden cameras. So I don't think we've seen everything. But it must be incredibly frustrating for William to now see how this is blown up and think,

I told you to jettison this man seven years ago. Oh, Daniel, you are going to hate me right, because the only thing I like about the royal family are the tiaras, and you know I'm a big fan. Well, that's fun too. In the 1700s, the royal family was virtually bankrupt. They had no money at all. Today, funded by taxpayers and by people like us, their little minions, have made them into billionaires. This family that doesn't get involved in politics has a prince shagging his way around the world, giving secrets of trade deals apparently allegedly.

But I think the big push on Andrew, and I know there's potentially lots more to come, is because there's lots more to hide. Because in our royal family, we've had Prince Charles, who for years, for 50 or 60 years, has been meddling in politics, dealing with elites, telling us what we should do whilst he becomes richer off our backs. The fact that they still own huge trenches of the country under the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall is absolutely disgraceful. And if you look at William and his big claim to flame, the Earthshot Prize, that's also funded by taxpayers and bill payers to take us down a road that we aren't even allowed to vote on, I think the monarchy

is done for. I think it's over. And I think Andrew has started a spiral that won't be stopped. Because when it all comes out about the political meddling and the financial meddling from people like Charles, for goodness sake, Beatrice, how can she be at the WEF meeting in Davos, talking about entrepreneurs, when her mother begs for money from a paedophile and her father's shagging everything that moves so that he can mix in elite circles. I don't want that kind of family at the head of our country at all, ever. I will take the tiaras, though, just saying, as in the side. Well, I mean, this is obviously Williams Fair, Howard Cox.

He sees that there is this very serious risk of republicanism raising its ugly head if you are a monarchist like I am. And I think it would be the last thing that we need as a country, actually. I think it would be really something that was immediately hijacked by the left. I can't even contemplate it, you know. And probably we'd end up with Gary Lineker or Tony Blair as president. And so, as I say, you know, we do not want to go down that path. but how do you, well, how do you feel about all of this? And do you think that's why William had a point?

Because the thing about William, he knows the monarchy has to modernise and he knows that Andrew is going to do ongoing damage, just like Harry and Megan are doing ongoing damage. Well, I mean, I listened to Bernie just then. I was very impressed with a basically a summary of the royal family. And I think to some extent, most people will agree with her at the moment. I'm a monarchist too, Dan. you but it's about time this has gone long enough and you know we just spoke about Tommy

Robinson about worrying about his protection if he had the sort of protection that Andrew's got that sort of thing we he'd be safe as houses and I just do not understand how Andrews got away with this you call Slippery Starma this guy is totally Teflon Andrew everything goes over through him he's still got stacks of money still a millionaire as you say and those sorts of things got a family that are completely and utterly based on the totally mercenary in terms of finances, etc. We're hearing that, you know, he's, you know, his ex-wife or whatever you want to call her,

she wants to relaunch herself and is going to go into the United Arab Emirates. All those sorts of things. Dan, you're very o'fay with this and, you know, about what's going on. But I have lost interest in this. I'm 71 years of age, and for most of my life, I've been a devout follower of the royal family. But in the recent years, I'm sorry, it's made me physically sick to see what's going on.

the non-stop front pages of Andrew and his sexual, you know, whatever you want to call it, you know, all I can say to you is that I'm disgusted. My wife and I regularly are sick to death of it. Yeah, and that's so sad. That is so sad for the British monarchy that I've let it get to that point. But I also have real issues, Lee, with this idea that the late Queen Elizabeth the second is to blame for this. I don't like that. There's lots of briefing to that.

effect coming from King Charles. I think it's awful to do that to his mother. Now, just for a little bit of context, when the settlement with Virginia Dufre was agreed, the late queen was, I think by that point, 94 years old and suffering secretly from terminal cancer that people like I was aware of, but we did not report out of respect for her health and the fact that she wanted to keep it confidential. By that point, much of the running of the monarchy had been handed over to King Charles, who had staged a coup alongside with Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, to get rid of the late Queen's private secretary, Christopher Guide, who was very sensible running the show because they wanted to bring in their own man. So the point that I'm making is that I think this is on Charles. I don't think

this is on Queen Elizabeth II. I also don't think this is on Prince William. I think, unfortunately, this decision was on Charles. He brought his brother back into the fold even closer after the death of the late Queen Elizabeth the second. He invited Andrew and Fergie to spend Christmas with the family at Sandrine. I mean, all of that I just find quite extraordinary. Yeah, I mean, I'm with you, Dan. I'm not with the other two on this one, obviously.

I love the Queen. I would like to see her back if it was. scientifically possible. The only thing that the Queen ever did wrong, as far as I was concerned, is produced two of the dippiest children I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. I think Charles should advocate the throne. She did well with Anne, though.

Come on, she did well with Princess Anne. Yeah, all right. I'll give you that, yeah. And, yeah, well, I'm talking about sons. But, yeah, I think Charles should advocate the throne. I think he should give it to William. I think William has got much more of his grandmother's. sort of attitude.

I think Kate certainly has got more. I know she had a good relationship with the Queen Kate. So I think she would make a far better queen. So, but I mean, Andrew, man. Andrew, I mean, William's right if he said this 11 years ago, because let's

remember that Epstein was charged. I think it was around 2003, between 2003 and 2008, I believe. He was charged for prostitution and he was charged for requiring a minor for prostitution, I believe. So you can't tell me that with all the security details and that

the royal family, you know, perform on people that are associated with them. You can't tell me that Andrew didn't know that. You can't tell me the Royal family didn't know that. So, I mean, yeah, he should have gone a long time ago, Andrew, and I think Charles, as far as I'm concerned, needs to just give it up and I think give it to William and Kate and that and restore some pride I think they'd restore some pride William and Kate back into the family and give us a better

remembrance of what it was like when we had Elizabeth the second in charge you know who had a lot of respect for I think the way she presented herself the way she she she you know the way she battle through a number of things with her family was to be admired and that. And I think, yeah, I think Andrew and Charles, Andrew especially are making the raw family a complete embarrassment. Breaking right now some sad news out of Hollywood. Robert Duval, the star of The Godfather, of course, among other movies, like to kill a mockingbird, has died at 19.

25 years old. So what a legend he was. His wife, Luciana Duval, has posted a message on Facebook revealing Rob passed away peacefully at home, surrounded by love and comfort. To the world, he was an Academy Award-winning actor, a director, a storyteller. To me, he was simply everything. His passion for his craft was matched only by his deep love for characters a great meal and holding court for each of his many roles bob gave everything to his characters and to the truth of the human spirit they represented in doing so he leaves something lasting and unforgettable to us all and i mean a huge star powered of of the 70s your error well i love to smell of napalm in the morning i mean you you remember that

But, you know, I just think, well, it's last of the great ones. It's 95, what a great age. You know, thank God, you know, he lived that long. And I've got so many fond memories of him, as you quite rightly say. He was very much a highlight of me growing up in the, you know, going to the cinema and watching great movies with him. And yeah, it's a very sad day. But, you know, I'm sorry to use the cliche, but my thoughts are with his friends and family. Yeah, and he was in Mash, wasn't he?

Yes. Yes, he was. Yes, he was. Which was obviously such a big show. Bernie, you're a movie, you're a movie, Buss. Bough, any reflections on Robert DeValle? No, I'm not really. As you know, my son very much is.

And he'll shout at me after this if he's watching because I don't know enough. But I also was a big fan of MASH. I have nothing more to say except 95 is pretty brilliant. And in 20 years' time, if Elon has his way, we'll all have downloaded our brains into one of his neuralink computers and be living forever. Yeah.

Lee, 95. He had four wives, four wives, but no children, which is interesting. But he had been married to Luciana since 2005. So it's a loss, isn't it? I don't like these legends goingly. No, I can't, well, I can't think of anything worse than having four wives speak quite on issue. you know that's another way you're all together um but yeah i mean one of my best one of my favorite movies that i ever watched gone in 60 seconds um i'm a film buff i'm a car fan and that and gone in

60 seconds is a great film he was in that film um with a pet dog that you see all the keys and everything else um i've seen a couple of other movies that i can't remember what they're called off the top of my head that he was in and that and um yeah he was a great actor um at 95 is a great age um he's had a good run I'm sure it'll be so here. Exactly. You've got to be happy with that. You've got to be happy with that.

Well, look, you three stand by because we're about to find out which of you has won today's Union Jackass Prize. But first, getting lots of feedback in over our earlier conversations. Not surprisingly, in regards to this divide on the right, thank you so much for your superchats, actually. That's been brilliant today. Lord Vader in Malaysia said Rupert and Ben are what the UK really needs and I'm sure many in Reform know this but feel that right now reform has a better footing

I think this will change and change very quickly Deline Faro says Hi Daniel Farmers seem to suffer just as our farmers in South Africa do hope Rupert succeeds and Cyrillian Sword says I heard Farage couldn't sleep last night he knew he'd wake up to his entire party imploding I'm joking I'm just 99

percent sure he couldn't sleep last night. More feedback from you here. David Q205E says, I like Rupert, but he's been an MP for just two years and he has no one around him with any gravitas yet. He's saying everything I want to hear, but I really don't see how he can deliver. Puds 5102 says Rupert has inspired hope. We need that and he says what we all want out loud. Helen O.D. says, I am so disappointed in Suella's conversion to socialism, awful, what on earth happened. Matthew Jay says, I'm so happy Rupert has done this. Finally, but also I hope he joins forces with Ben Habib. Leanne Oakes says, I like Rupert Lowe and I believe he has integrity and does want the best for our country, Ben Habib and Rupert Lowe need to regroup and fight this evil. Juliet Sam says,

I have joined Restore Britain today. I defected from reform. I really, really hope that they merge with advance. That would be my dream team. And Tim OU.K. is as low as telling the truth. It will be painful getting our country back much better than watching our country destroyed out of fear of the pain bring on the pain i say okay thank you for all of your comments today let's do a quick reminder of today's union jackass nominees from our superstar panel so howard cox went for abdul haileem khan absolutely horrifying story this as howard says an islamic religious leader using his powerful community position to brainwash and sexually abused young guilt he has been found guilty Nadim Zahawi, nominated by Lee Mitchell for that terrible explanation of why London is unsafe.

Just say it. Just say it, Nadim. And Steve Reid, nominated by Bernie Spofforth for attempting to delay the local elections and having to reverse his decision because he was scared by new legal advice. Okay, let's get to the results. Just 16% of you have gone for Steve Reed and Bernie Spofforth's choice. That would be mine today. I have to be honest, that would be mine. The runner-up, Nadim Zahawi, with 35% of the vote. But no, it is an absolutely horrifying story.

Abdul Halim Khan with 49% of the vote, meaning that Al-Hawood Cox takes the win on Union Jackass today. Thank you so much, Howard. Thank you, Bernie. Great to have you here, Lee, for the first time today. Really, really appreciate it. Bernie actually nominated our greatest Britain today. and of course it was the man of the hour.

But Bernie has made the point that it is for his work on the rape gang inquiry, which I do think is very important to point out because of course he has been working very hard on that and he didn't want to launch the party, did he, Bernie, until after the rape gang inquiry was finished. And I think that was a really good thing. It showed where his head was at. But look, thank you all so much. Do come back soon. and we are going to move over to Substack now for our Royal Uncanceled Aftershow,

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