Dan Wootton Outspoken - SADIQ KHAN ARREST THREAT AS ISLAMIST SEPARATIST PLOT IN UK EXPOSED & UKIP MARCH CANCELLED

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Growing calls for London’s failed Mayor Sadiq Khan to step down or be arrested over his disgraceful cover up of the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs - but what hope of that is there g...iven the Met chief Mark Rowley is in on the scam too? Khan’s rival Ant Middleton goes for the jugular. And there is growing fury as we come on air over the Met Police for cancelling UKIP’s march in Whitechapel for mass deportations this weekend, which he had asked peaceful Muslims to join. Meanwhile, Labour pushes ahead with plans to make criticising the Islam takeover of the UK illegal, just as we hit a tipping point. But mainstream politicians are speaking out, prompting the expected meltdown from James O’Brien. Dan will examine the shifting political mood in the Digest and ask if it’s too little too late. Then the Superstar Panel are here: Two patriotic new media stars of YouTube - Stef the Alter Nerd and Based and Bougi. PLUS: Katie Hopkins destroys Piers Morgan as he makes his return to breakfast TV on the British Bashing Corporation. AND: Sly News suggests Prince Andrew should shoot himself as the political storm over the disgraced Duke’s titles grows. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Buckingham Palace doubles down by revealing Prince Harry and Meghan Markle remain a bigger threat to the monarchy than Andrew Windsor and Sarah Ferguson, as plans are drawn up to deal with the Sussexes once and for all. We’ll reveal the results of a bombshell Outspoken poll with our Royal Mastermind Angela Levin. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This is outspoken episode number 341. And breaking right now, growing calls for London's failed Mercedes-Kahn to step down or be arrested over his disgraceful cover-up of the Pakistani Muslim rape gags. But what hope of that is there, given the Met Chief Mark Rowley, is in on the scam too. At least, Dan Middleton, going for the jugular. I'm in Fair Chair, what is meant by the question. If she could spell it out, I can answer. I've just spelled it out. Are you not listening?
Starting point is 00:00:34 It's the sort of gangs that groom young girls at a young age for sex. He just pretended he didn't know what her grooming gang was. The question I cannot understand is why is there a reluctance for people to admit that these gangs exist? Siddiqued Khan promotes his religion. over his people and that isn't the religion within our country. Our religion within our country is Christianity. And there is growing fury as we come on air over the Met Police for canceling Eukyp's March in Whitechapal for mass deportations this weekend, which Nick Tangone had asked peaceful Muslims to join. Note how the Met Police did not cancel an Islamist pro-Palestine march on
Starting point is 00:01:23 October the 2nd, the day two people were killed in a terror attack at the Manchester Synagogue. And unlike our protests, the Islamist turned violent and attacked the police. Isn't it interesting? The Met Police regularly say they have no powers to stop all sorts of abhorrent extremist protests. Yet when it comes to us, they are able to trample on our rights. Meanwhile, Labour pushes ahead with plans to make criticising the Islam take a of the UK illegal, just as we hit a tipping point. Taking over the country, officially, England's over. Allah, Akbar.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Yeah, what are we lining up for? This is historical. We are here to stay. Like I said, we're not here to take part. We're here to take over. Gee! Many of these fans, many of these fans are active or former soldiers who have taken part in Israel's genocide in Gaza.
Starting point is 00:02:22 They should be investigated for war crimes the moment they set foot onto British soil. Finally, mainstream politicians are speaking out, prompting the expected meltdown from James O'Brien. Islamism is now a force in our society and our politics. If we surrender to it, we know the demands for Islamic separatism will follow. That multiculturalism has not succeeded in this country, that what you need is one culture for a country. country to be a success. Now, you can be a multi-ethnic culture, you can be a multi-racial culture,
Starting point is 00:02:57 but you need one national culture for a people to live together in harmony and prosperity. I find this woman absolutely despicable. Am I culturally coherent with her? I think this is the single most disgusting thing since Robert Jenrick last opened his mouth. This particular bit, that line there, they will also need to go home. I think that's the worst I've seen. Worse than anything Enoch Powell said in 1968. I'll examine the shifting political mood in my digest next and ask if it's too little too late. Then my superstar panel here,
Starting point is 00:03:29 two patriotic new media, stars of YouTube, Steph the Alterdard, and based and bougie. Also coming up on the show today, Katie Hopkins destroys Piers Morgan as he makes his return to breakfast TV on the British Bashing Corporation. Sly news suggests Prince Andrews should shoot himself as the political storm over the disgraced duke's titles grow,
Starting point is 00:03:51 and the truth about the deteriorating health of King Charles is disclosed, piling the pressure on the monarch and his heir in the midst of the biggest royal crisis in a generation. We'll report what the Royal Rota and mainstream media will not. Then, in the uncanceled after show on Substap, Buckingham Palace doubles down by revealing Prince Harry and Megan Markle remain a bigger threat to the monarchy than Andrew Wynne and Sarah Ferguson as plans are drawn up to deal with the Sussex's once and for all. So we're going to reveal the results of a bombshell Outspoken poll with our Royal Mastermind, Angela Levin, and you can sign up to watch over on Substack, www.outspoken.org.
Starting point is 00:04:34 We'll also reveal a brand new Greatest Britain and Union Jackass before the end of the show. Here are your nominees for the worst Britain in the world today. George Aberoni, nominated by Darren Donaldson, who says the incoming president of the Oxford Union Debating Society has lost a confidence vote after his disgraceful comments on the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Zach Polansky, nominated by Dr. Wolf, who says he leads a party acting as a Trojan horse for Islam with policies that belong in Monty Python's circus. His smile shows a St. George's Cross with the missing tooth as a fake patriot, but the dental work fools no one. And Prince Andrew, nominated by Chris of Cornwall, who says he is a complete, shameful embarrassment to the British people and the monarchy. So, three very, very different men, all in the news. Get voting now. Let me know your comments throughout the show, and I will bring you the results before we go tonight.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Now, let's go. Mainstream political figures are starting to express the previously unimaginable. Not because their dark thoughts before were untrue, but they stayed silent, given the chilling threat to free speech posed by the elite class in MSM's embrace of the diversity project and so-called success of multiculturalism. Now, however, as the Islam takeover threat becomes loud and clear and Labour pushes ahead with a sinister plan to make so-called Islamophobia illegal, all bets are off. Reform UK's Rising Star Darren Grimes mused openly last night. I am really worried that my country is being pushed to civil war.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And Peter Blexley shared this chilling video with just five words. it's coming people it's coming watch will not tolerate the disrespect of our profit peace be upon him and there will be outcomes from your actions you will have repercussions for your actions we have been trained from birth that we must defend the honor of our profit and we will lay our life on the line okay you know the other argument is
Starting point is 00:06:59 okay so if you don't like it here go to your own country but why would we do why would we do that when our forefathers were instrumental in rebuilding this country after World War II. It was our grandfathers who worked in the factory 20-20 hours. It was our grandfathers who came here and run the infrastructure. It was our grandfathers who bought you the lovely curry, which is your national dish. So how can you tell us to go? We're not going nowhere. We are here to stay. Like I say, we're not here to take part. We're here to take over.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Shi! I love us. Taking over the country, officially, England's over. Allahaqvar. Yeah, what are we lining up for? This is historical. This is historical. I don't see this for Fajah. Guys, we went down a whole alleyway and there's still a man here. As Jonathan Wong surmised, Shaquil Afsfar, founder of the Islamic Independent Candidates Alliance, openly declaring, we're not here to take part, we're here to take over. When fifth columnists tell you who they are, believe them. But we know that's not how
Starting point is 00:08:04 the MSM operates, which is why Hulm's useless, was able to be able to be. become First Minister of Scotland, despite being the most incompetent politician of his generation. And it's why the regime media is ignoring the horrifying but completely predictable revelation that London's failed, Mercedes-Kahn, covered up the Pakistani rape gang scandal in the capital city. I was to do this question last week, and you found every which way but not to answer it, just how many grooming gangs have we got in London? The one of a misunderstanding, can she define what she means by that? Yes. If you look at what's gone on in Rotherham, where there are people taking young girls, grooming them for sex.
Starting point is 00:08:48 That is what I'm talking about. Well, we know in London there are issues about exploitation of young people, but they're not as defined by the member in her definition of what those types of gangs are. Liar, liar, scumbag. Because even the Met, Britain's biggest police. fought under Khan has reversed a long-held denial, which heaps further shame, by the way, on Mark Rowley, the Met Chief. And trust me, if this were any other politician, you would have a major scandal in the MSM, given Khan's political rival at the next mayoral election, the independent candidate and TV star Aunt Middleton, has called for his arrest, writing he must either step down
Starting point is 00:09:34 with immediate effect, or be arrested as a security threat to London, Great Britain, and more importantly, for endangering the lives of British citizens. This surely is the last straw for this rage-bater and extremist propaganda pusher. The damage and harm he is causing to London is beyond political protection. He has to go. Tommy Robinson's three-word verdict was damning. He must go. And as Chris Rose accurately summed up, the accusation that Sadiq Khan was part of a grooming gang cover-up in London just makes this image even more revolting. An insult to victims, knighthood should be rescinded. But what hope is there? Given Khan is protected by his mates in the Labour government and the MSM.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Susan Hall, who as you just saw has rightly been targeting Khan on grooming gangs for months, is indignant. You like me will not understand why Sadiq Khan, when I asked him if we had grooming gangs or rape gangs in London, why he didn't just answer is something we're worried about we're looking into, or yes we do, it's being investigated. He didn't say no, he just pretended he didn't know what a grooming gang was. The question I cannot understand is why is there a reluctance for people to admit that these gangs exist? Why does there appear to be a cover-up? Because if you talk to those victims, as I have, because so many have contacted me, for which I'm really grateful, when you listen to their stories, you would literally cry. Because these are vulnerable girls, and it does happen to boys as well.
Starting point is 00:11:33 well. What sort of a society are we that we can't look after the most vulnerable? It's shocking. It really is. And Sadiq Khan has shown his true colours. Every time I've asked him, you have seen what he's done. He's tried to pretend he doesn't know. He's just worked the clock down so that I don't have any more time to ask questions. I'm sorry that's not good enough. It's not good enough. As Ant Middleton put it, by plain dumb, Khan has ultimately condoned their actions. Such an endangerment to life, especially young British girls. He must be held to account. Failure to do so will have huge consequences on the safe and security of our capital city.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Reckless with so many British lives, shocking. Promising a zero-tolerance policy for extremism, he added after posting this hilarious Trump style. A-I video. Yes. Love it. Love it. That's what we need. As I sit and have my morning coffee and gaze out of the window at the capital of England and its rich history, culture and landmarks, I have this overwhelming sense of protection and preservation. I will fight with every inch of my being to make this city and its people safe and secure once again for all to enjoy and thrive. Londoners and London deserves to be protected against the evil forces that walk within it and lay bare over it. I will overcome. evil with good. And what's critical is that Ant made it clear to me at Unite the Kingdom that Khan's Islamism will be part of the story. The world's greatest city. Sadly, you're right. And I've got my work to cut out. And that's why I want people to remember their roots. I want to remember where they come from. I want them to remember that, you know, you look at our courts. It's Christian. They're done on
Starting point is 00:13:34 Christian values, beliefs, you know, everything is done under Christianity. Look at our calendar year. We've got Easter, we've got Christmas holidays. Every Sunday is going to be church. You know, I think when you try and dive into this multiculturalism, now if we're of all cultures, that means we're culturalists, right? And then that means we have no identity. And here is where the problem. Sadiq Khan promotes his religion over his people. And that isn't the religion within our country. Our religion within our country is Christianity. But for now, we live in two-tier Britain, with the police rightly coming under fire and facing fury for just canceling Nick Tenconi's UKIP March. Remember, this was happening in Whitechapal, this weekend.
Starting point is 00:14:25 It was for mass deportations, but critically, he had asked peaceful Muslims to join, to show solidarity. As Tommy Robinson argued, the Metropolitan Police caved and allowed hate marches every week. UKIP apply for one protest denied. Now let me tell you, Nick Tenconi is absolutely furious about this decision. Watch. Patriots, following two-tier policing, we will be moving up. our march on Saturday to outside the London Oratory on Brompton Road and marching through central London to Speaker's Corner. I am disgusted to see that the Metropolitan Police have cancelled
Starting point is 00:15:08 our march in Whitechapel due to threats of violence from the local Islamist community. This is in direct breach of our democratic right to peaceful assembly and it comes just a week after the disastrous decision from West Midlands police to ban Maccabee Tel Aviv fans from attending an Aston Villa game due to concerns fans would be attacked by Islamist thugs. We are watching British police officers cave into sectarian violence across the country, which is unacceptable. The MET must decide who is in charge of police strategy, police commanders or Islamist community leaders. Note how the Met Police did not cancel an Islamist pro-Palestine march on October 2nd. The day two people were killed in a terror attack at the Manchester Synagogue. And unlike our
Starting point is 00:16:03 protests, the Islamist turned violent and attacked the police. Isn't it interesting? The Met police regularly say they have no powers to stop all sorts of abhorrent extremist protests. Yet when it comes to us, they are able to trample on our rights. This is two-tier policing at its worst, and the Met have at best signified they have lost control of the streets of London, or at worst, are complicit with the Islamists in stifling our democracy. We will not be bullied, and we will now be meeting outside the London Oratory at 1pm on Saturday, the 25th of October. Patriots, we will not be deterred from taking. our country back.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I mean, good on him. But I completely appreciate the fury. Because this is two-tier policing, folks. We are living through this. However, increasingly, there is an acknowledgement on the British right that tackling Islamism and rejecting multiculturalism has to be part of the conversation.
Starting point is 00:17:09 As Tory rising star Katie Lamb managed to horrify, and I love this, both Zach Polanski and Robert Pestan in one go on Woke ITV last night. If these very large numbers of people left, we would have what you called a culturally coherent country or a more culturally coherent country. What is a more culturally coherent country? Well, there is a gathering view now which I subscribe to
Starting point is 00:17:39 that multiculturalism has not succeeded in this country, that what you need is one culture for a country to be a success. You can be a multi-ethnic culture, you can be a multiracial culture, but you need one national culture for a people to live together in harmony and prosperity. I'm not sure you agree, do you? No, I think diversity is one of the best things about this country. This country was built on migration, and of course we should celebrate people who are born here,
Starting point is 00:18:02 but also people who come here and make this their home too. And actually I think that's part of being a patriot is the care and compassionate approach towards others. I think that's part of being British. So what is Zach saying that you think is wrong? think is wrong? Well, firstly, this country wasn't built on migration. There have been throughout our history different waves of immigration, but this country was built on the British people. Now, it's totally true. We go back to 1066. We can talk about lots of very big waves.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And that's happened throughout the entire history of our country. But to say that the country was built on migration is simply not true. Now, there are lots of people around the world, exceptional people that we would want to come to this country and contribute. There are also, sadly, lots and lots of people around the world who live very, very difficult lives. And in our compassion, we extend a hand to some of them. But can I just ask you on that very specific point? Obviously, we've had an indigenous population
Starting point is 00:19:04 for a sort of longer period, for example, in a slightly more dominant position than in America. but America is absolutely a country that was totally built on migration. Is America a failed state? I think in many ways America is a very culturally incoherent state and I think that that is a massive problem.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I think it depends who creates cultural coherence and actually that's not for one person to do. It's certainly not for politicians to do. That's for communities to do. We had 14 years of conservative austerity that's destroyed integration because we don't have community centres, we don't have arts and culture
Starting point is 00:19:37 and we need to tell that. If it's not for politicians to create, community cohesion, then those things wouldn't have changed that. Now, I have no doubt that the vast majority of the country agrees with Katie Lamb. But just look at James O'Brien's hysterical reaction, proving why the MSM is dying on its ass. Think of a more dehumanising turn of phrase than this. It's not the fault of the individuals who came here. They just shouldn't have been able to do so.
Starting point is 00:20:06 They will also need to go home. What that will leave is a mostly but not entirely culturally coherent group of people. How are they going to decide whether you're culturally coherent? Will they check that you're racist before you can stay? Will they check that you're white? Will they check that you're Christian? Will they check that you're Anglican? I find this woman absolutely despicable.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Am I culturally coherent with her? I think this is the single most disgusting thing since Robert Generic last opened his mouth. This particular bit, that line there, they will also need. to go home. I think that's the worst I've seen. Worse than anything Enoch Powell said in 1968. By the way, James O'Brien, Enoch Powell didn't say anything wrong. He may have expressed it inartfully, but there was a reason that he was warning against mass immigration, right? You agree, surely. Of course, anyone, though, knows that the hatred, racism and true threat to Britain has all been
Starting point is 00:21:08 coming from the left, as the unhinged Zara Sultana has proven perfectly in Parliament. Tel Avid's racist fan-huliganism cannot be separated from Israeli militarism. Many of these fans, many of these fans are active or former soldiers who have taken part in Israel's genocide in Gaza. They should be investigated for war crimes the moment they set foot onto British soil, not welcomed into our stadiums. And let's be clear, this Labour Government is no innocent bystander. It has armed Israel's genocide, it has provided diplomatic cover, and he has shamefully denied that genocide is even taking place. So I ask the Minister, is there anything this Labour Government won't do to defend the genocidal
Starting point is 00:21:57 apartheid state of Israel? Madam Deputy Speaker, I like the Honourable Lady, but I have to say that she is doing the people of Birmingham no favours with that sort of rhetoric. When it comes to the conflation that she makes between all of the Maccabee-Telieve supporters and the actions of the Israeli government, That is precisely what the Honourable Gentleman was talking about, about blaming, in many cases, British citizens who happen to support Maccabee Tel Aviv for actions that are taking place in the Middle East. Conflating, being Jewish and Israeli,
Starting point is 00:22:42 I have to say, I'm afraid, is in itself anti-Semitism. I think she should take more care of her role. Sultana didn't take that takedown well. Growning, to label my stance as anti-Semitic as she did in the chamber, is a baseless and desperate smear. It seems there is nothing she and this Labour government won't do to defend the actions
Starting point is 00:23:00 of the genocidal apartheid state of Israel. Sure, Jan, but almost as bad, is that ghoul, Bob villain, exposing the BBC's woke staff for secretly loving his Glastonbury performance. Just to kind of show how mundane the whole thing was, it wasn't like we came off state and everybody was like,
Starting point is 00:23:21 it's just normal, we come off state, just normal nobody for anything nobody and even even staff at the BBC but I fantastic that was fantastic that was fantastic we we loved that I was like that's such an NPC maneuver though isn't it's like any band comes off you smashed it fantastic no but that was like this was this was a couple hours later it took us a little while to get but like you know they've never nobody at the BBC at that time was was there like, oh my gosh, you know?
Starting point is 00:23:58 But it was very normal. Of course it was very normal. Of course it was very normal for the BBC. And the reason that they reacted the way they did in the end was only because of the public pressure on them. It's interesting though because as Nigel Farage refuses to talk about the growing Islam threat, Tommy Robinson pointed out, the Conservatives seem more willing to discuss this topic than reform.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Now that was certainly the case with Nick Timothy's speech warning. This is a very, very important speech, by the way, warning of the threat of Islam separatism. We must be honest and brave enough to say that we do not want you here. If you are not brave enough to say this, the very future of our society is at stake. After the failures of successive governments, Islamism is now a force in our society and our politics. If we surrender to it, we know the demands for Islamic separatism will follow. Separate schools, states funding for mosques, the Alema Muslim scholars on the public payroll, public prayer provision, the incorporation of the Sharia into our laws.
Starting point is 00:25:14 We don't want any of these things. So no. No to blasphemy laws. No to special protections for Islam. No to intimidation, violence or censorship. No to the politics of communalism. And no to the hate preachers, extremists and thugs who refuse to respect our way of life. If we give in to the mob, the mob will come back for more. We have to stand up to the mob, hold the line and say with confidence that this argument ends here and now. I mean, he's not the most dynamic speaker, right? I understand that. But just listen to his words, they were important. And this is a mainstream politician. I mean, he was Theresa May's main advisor. She's a lefty, basically.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Front bencher Claire Coutino is going there too, with Maya Toosie pointing out the Tory Party suddenly is now the only mainstream party that finally says the political ideology of Islam is a problem. We live in crazy times. Watch. At the weekend, it was reported that the government had dropped its work on an Islamophobia definition. But if you look more closely, that isn't the case.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Now, I've been campaigning against a definition because I'm worried that it's going to have a chilling effect on our public bodies and that it will stop them from talking about difficult issues like gender equality, like counter-terrorism or the grooming gangs. The risk is that we sleepwalk into a de facto blasphemy law, which means our body. public bodies are not able to tackle these difficult questions around cultural practices or integration at exactly the wrong moment. The whole process has been shrouded in secrecy from start to finish. They started behind closed doors with a small group of activists until we force them to make this into a public consultation. But now we don't know what's in this definition, we don't know who it will silence or what it will do. So they must come clean, they must publish the working
Starting point is 00:27:13 group's advice, they must let everyone scrutinise the draft definition before any decision is taken on whether to adopt it. The problem is that if they decide behind closed doors that they want to use this definition, they could also start pushing it into our institutions without anybody having a say. And this is something which could affect everybody. It could affect a nurse, a teacher, a member of the public. Anyone who says the wrong thing could be impacted by this definition. Oh, we will be. We will all be impacted. I mean, this is all about making this show illegal. I mean, it's completely nuts. Robert Jenrick 2, now saying that Britain needs to deport more migrants than we take in net negative immigration. This from 2CTV.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Well, on the question of immigration, we've been very clear that if we were lucky enough to be in government again in the future, we would ensure that we bring migration right down, not to the tens of thousands, not even to net zero immigration, as some on the right call for, but actually to net emigration, where more people are leaving every year than are entering the country so that we can give the United Kingdom breathing space, help young people onto the housing ladder, help people to access public services, and ensure that over time we can become a more united country with better integration than we've seen in recent years. And we would ensure this actually happens this time
Starting point is 00:28:41 with a legally binding cap set by Parliament so the public can have trust that politicians are going to finally do what they say they're going to do, not let them down, as has happened time and again over the last 25 years. And on illegal migration, by leaving the European Convention on Human Rights,
Starting point is 00:29:00 by changing our human rights laws that have been abused so flagrantly in recent years, by illegal migrants and the left-wing lawyers and activists that are around them, we can actually secure our borders and detain and deport everyone who comes here illegal, either back home to their own country or to save third countries. That is the best way of solving the small boats crisis. So that's some of the good, and I celebrate the good, because we've got to change the conversation, right?
Starting point is 00:29:29 By the way, I'm still not voting conservative ever again, I'm sorry. but I will praise them when they do something right and unfortunately so much of the mainstream right needs to wake up still especially my old employers at GB News which had Nigel Nelson on air live pushing the Islamophobia law that would actually end up shutting GB News down
Starting point is 00:29:57 what we need to try and do is get to a a similar definition of Islamophobia, the problem is finding the right form of words, as Chopper was just talking about, to make sure it doesn't infringe on free speech, that you are able to criticise the religion, but it prevents hate speech. It has been difficult to find the words.
Starting point is 00:30:21 People can say to them its hate speech when they're just offended. People that Graham Lennon made tweets, people said they were offended by, he got nicked. That's the point. If you give extra leverage, Which people will use it in toxic ways. Nicked in a case abandoned.
Starting point is 00:30:37 But if you have a definition of anti-Semitism, which people can largely accept, there are bits of that I find a bit difficult. But anyway, that you can largely accept, why should you not strive to get a definition of Islamophobia? Well, because quite simply, in its present form, the phrase Muslim rape gangs is Islamophobia. No, it would not be.
Starting point is 00:31:00 It would not be. The whole thing is that if you're making a simple description like that, that's exactly the kind of things that you wouldn't want an Islamophobia law to outlaw. And it wouldn't. And the whole point is it's difficult finding... Statements of facts might be offensive. They can't be illegal. No, that's what I mean about it.
Starting point is 00:31:17 That would be a fact. To say that would be a fact. The problem with the wording is to make sure that you can criticize the religion of Islam without criticizing Muslims. Totally delusional. Totally delusional. But that was followed by Christopher Hope, the apparently impartial political editor, actually going on air on GB News to argue how brilliant Starma is, especially behind the scenes. Those, of course, are AI images for those watching. But yes, I mean, he is somebody who... That might be real. Well, I'm going to say it. I'll say it. He is privately quite a funny
Starting point is 00:31:56 guy, he does like a bit of a laugh. He tends to, when he's got his game face on, when he's doing his TV stuff, he tends to maybe be a bit more formal, but that's often the way with people of a certain age, maybe younger individuals are more relaxed on camera. I think it's just how he is. I mean, he's trying to do his best by the country. I think there's been a problem, a criticism in the past that he's a bit of a kind of judge's lawyer, not a jury lawyer, likes the kind of desiccated, dry arguments with a judge, but it's less good of convincing an audience, but I think it's getting better. I think it's part of conference speech last month, one of the best I've seen from him.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Chopper is quite right there. Kirstarmer in private is actually very funny. He's great company, but when he gets out in public, he becomes incredibly cautious. So every word is measured. Even then he gets some things wrong, like the island of strangers in his speech. So that's the key storm of the public sees. Honestly, how has GB News any better than the British Bashing Corporation or sly news these days? Wake up! Wake up! He is evil.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I don't give a damn if he charms you and he's funny off camera. The guy is evil. He is destroying the country you need to wake up. Now, the superstar panel. And let me bring in our YouTube sensations based and bougie and Steph, the alter nerd. So much to discuss today. Steph, Basil the Great now reporting that the BBC have still not said a word about Sadiq Khan covering up grooming gangs. This is nuts. Do you agree with Aunt Middleton who says this guy either has to step?
Starting point is 00:33:52 down or be arrested? Yeah. And he should have been, he should have stepped down and he should have been arrested a hell of a long time ago. He has consistently denied knowledge of grooming gangs
Starting point is 00:34:10 that have obviously been operating in London actually for years. So there's a clip that's making the rounds at the moment. He was questioned back in around about 2020, about what he was doing to actually investigate grooming gangs operating in London. This was five years ago.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And obviously this is a decant, right? He doesn't answer the question. Instead, he deflects in the most disgusting way. He turns around and he says, are you only asking me that question because of my religion and my race? And then the person who asked the question is then silenced and shut down. Yes. Being accused of Islamophobia just for asking that question in the first place.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I remember it. And David Curtin also really pushed him on this at the time. And you're completely right to point this out, Steph, because yes, Susan Hall has been doing great work in recent months. But you're right. I mean, this is a cover-up, Steph, that has been going on for five years. Five years by Kahn, at least. It's disgusting. And then you look at the situation that we've got based in Bougie in the capital at the moment. So the Met Police, today, reverse their previous denials, finally admit, oh yeah, yeah, we do have a Pakistani Muslim grooming gang scandal. But then, what's their next decision to ban this protest by Nick Tenconi and UKIP in Whitechap? Based on Buzi, I'm sorry, look at all of the hate marches that they have allowed to go on every single damn week. Yet Nick Tanconi protesting against mass deportations is not allowed to happen. This is a disgrace. You know, more and more, I understand why people just want mass deportation. Honestly, I get it because it makes no sense how every other issue in the world is more important than actual issues that are going on in the
Starting point is 00:36:09 country. For instance, with the lady, I believe her name was Zahra Sultani. Yes. Why are you talking about Israel? Like, why are we talking about Israel and Palestine? No disrespect to the Israelis or the Palestinians, but why has this become our issue? I don't understand why has this become our issues. We have so many issues going on right now in the UK, but yet we are so focused on every other issue in the world. It's like we want to become, you know, the world hospital. And when we do have people like Nick Tinkone, who actually wants to focus on the issues, the issues of, you know, grooming gangs, the issues of mass migration, the issues of extremist
Starting point is 00:36:45 Islam, they're completely shut down. So I completely understand why people are becoming so so tired of, you know, mass migration and this whole idea of multiculturalism because it's very clear, especially with Sadiq Khan, constantly trying to deny that the grooming scandal actually took place. These people, like they said, they're not here to take part. They're here to take over. They do not care. They do not care if English girls are being groomed. Do you not care if young girls are being assaulted. They do not care about any of the issues going on in the country. They are just here to take over. Yeah, I mean, look at this part. from the Metropolitan Police, Steph,
Starting point is 00:37:23 the prospect of serious disorder has prompted us to intervene to prevent a protest organised by UKIP from taking place in Tower Hamlets on Saturday. It was calling for mass deportation and had caused significant community concerns. Now, the sort of tone that you get there from the Metropolitan Police
Starting point is 00:37:41 is that in some way, this protest was wrong for calling for mass deportations. I'm sorry, mass deportations. now the policy, Steph, of Reform UK, Advance UK, I believe will be the policy of the Conservative Party by the next election. There is absolutely nothing wrong for protesting for mass deportations and the fact that the Metropolitan Police have cancelled this protest, I think, is a disgrace. It is. And I think it's an abuse of their powers. We have a constitutional right to protest. And you, Kip, this isn't their first rodeo. They've mounted,
Starting point is 00:38:20 many protests, especially in the last 12 months, and they've gone largely without incident. So the police can't turn around and say, oh, well, we've had trouble with UKIP protests in the past, so we've had to kind of stop this one. No, they've gone largely without incident. And they're punishing the wrong people, really, at the end of the day. Because really, if they want to make sure that mass gatherings are as safe as possible, then how about, they turn their attention, let's say, to Notting Hill and the carnival there. This year there were like 140 arrests plus. Compare that following month with Unite the Kingdom and there are only 23 arrests.
Starting point is 00:39:04 They're punishing the wrong people because we are saying the truth and they don't like the truth being said out loud. They really don't. I mean, Basin Bougie, I'm interested for your personal take on this. I mean, this is from the Metropolitan Police release. They say it is part of a series of events and locations around the UK promoted as a mass deportations tour. Organizers have described it as a crusade calling on attendees to reclaim Whitechapel from the Islamists, which, again, they think should shock us, right, should horrify us and make us think that this is why they should shut the protest down.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Now, you've been protesting at events before with Nick Tenconi. Have you seen anything that worries you? I can tell you now that the only aggressors are stand up to racism. They are the only aggressors. I have not once seen anyone from Nick Tonney's team and the people protesting with Nick Tonney ever go out of their way to try to attack them. It's the left.
Starting point is 00:40:07 It's to stand up to racism. They're always the first ones to throw the fists. They're always the first ones to throw bottles. They're always the first one to throw slurs like Nazis and fascists, even though the British were the ones who actually defeated the Nazis are so stupid. but I've never, never, ever seen Nick Tinkoni and his crew of people ever go out of their way to attack. And let me just make something very, very clear.
Starting point is 00:40:30 White Chapel does not belong to the Islamists. It does not belong to the Bangladesh community. It does not belong to the Pakistani community. It belongs to the English people. And this is what I'm so sick and tired of. I'm so sick and tired of other communities coming into this country and trying to reclaim areas as if it's theirs.
Starting point is 00:40:48 No, it's not. It's not yours. Even me as someone who's non-black, one thing my parents have always told me is that, yes, I'm living here, yes, I'm British, but the native people have the first say. The same way if he was to go to Congo, if he was to go to Nigeria, the Chinese, they always have the first say. But why is that such an absurd concept here in the UK? It just makes me sick to my stomach, and it just goes to show that something very suspicious is going on.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Totally agree. Totally agree. Something suspicious is absolutely going on based in Bidji. when you think about the fact that the metropolitan police do not believe it is appropriate for a mainstream political party, this is UKIP, we're talking about, to host a protest saying that they want to take back one of our brilliant historic areas, Whitechapel, from the Islamists. They think that's inappropriate. Well, I'm sorry, I think there is something very, very suspicious going on.
Starting point is 00:41:45 And let me be clear, I'm not going to hide what I believe it is. London is now taken by the Islamists. There is an Islamist in charge of London, and he has covered up the Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs. We're not going to hide away from what is happening to our capital city. And by the way, well done Aunt Middleton for making the early running, being very clear, Khan should either step down now or be arrested. Breaking today, Katie Hopkins has destroyed Piers Morgan,
Starting point is 00:42:20 for making his mainstream comeback to the British Bashing Corporation on breakfast television. Now, I thought the whole thing was all really awkward. It's like, Pears, you've gone independent, right? You've got a show on YouTube. That's where the people are. Why on earth are you crawling back to the scumbags in the regime state media? But weirdly, it's where he seems to be most happy. watch
Starting point is 00:42:50 oh good morning Britain in a while whoa whoa whoa no babe I've got this I need out for two minutes I'll forget somebody a little bit younger
Starting point is 00:43:02 a little bit more handsome you're not having a fever dream but good morning let our Ben back on well actually have to be quite so hasty don't get too comfortable they don't be so insecure morning
Starting point is 00:43:15 Pierce Morgan very early on a I've come all away from London for this. I've got several nosebleeds just getting up there. Katie Hopkins wasn't having any of it. She posted on X. Such a great pity to see Pearz Morgan looking like a homeless drunk on the BBC sofa, desperately hawking his book and tickets, his teeth all but dissolved by years of lies. And there was more what. Piers Morgan on BBC morning breakfast sofa unwashed and unshaven and his teeth melted away by years of lies trying to punt his book and tickets for some godforsaken show with him that simply won't sell what a terrible tragedy to see one so great fall fall so very low
Starting point is 00:44:10 I do very much pity him. I mean, there was a little bit to pity because he has done one of those begging tweets to Elon Musk posting, Good morning, Elon Musk, I've written a new book, and I think you will really enjoy. And I give you credits in it for leading the charge against the woke mind virus. Maybe we could do an interview about it. Now, this is what Pierce doesn't understand right, because Tommy, sorry, Elon Musk isn't just about praise. as you saw with Tommy Robinson, he's also about what's right, and he wants people who truly believe in free speech.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Now, Pierce claims to believe in free speech, which you will see in this section of the BBC interview. Watch. You've got a lot of views, a lot of people's. Because one of the most insidious aspects of it is this kind of suppression of people's free speech. And I got really exercised about this. I think in the last few years, we kind of lost our minds where people felt they were not able to express themselves freely.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I have members of my family who fought in World War II, for example, for the right to defeat the Nazis and save our free speech. And the idea that we have this new kind of fascism, I call it, where if you say the wrong thing, you do the wrong thing, you get shamed, vilified, cancelled, destroyed. I think it's completely wrong. and very un-British. Now, that sounds great. That sounds great. But there are a few issues. Do you remember during the COVID pandemic?
Starting point is 00:45:48 If, for example, you spoke out against lockdowns or spoke out against vaccines, Peers wanted to send you to free speech jail. He didn't want you to have a platform at all. But even within this interview, he is suggesting that social media should be banned for all children. Now, that's something they need on. Musk and the tech giants are completely against because it doesn't just mean that children
Starting point is 00:46:14 won't be able to access social media. It means censorship for everyone online. Watch. And yet you said the problem is social media, yet the genie is out of the bottle. What can be done to change how divisive that is and maybe protect younger people from becoming too tribal too soon? Well, I don't let my daughter on social media. She's 13. She's nearly 14. And I won't for a bit either because I do think it's very damaging to a young, impressionable mind. I look at this stuff that I see on. I mean, I have nearly 9 million followers on X, for example. It's a lot, but it means I get a lot of content coming through all the time. And a lot of it is horrific, whether it's from Gaza, whether it's from Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:46:59 You could never, when I was young, when I was my daughter's age, you could never see that kind of stuff. You would see a sanitised version of warfare, which would be controlled by the media, mainstream media. There might be two or three news networks. There might be a smattering of newspapers, but you wouldn't see this constant horrific stuff, which I think that negative dopamine rushes, which come all the time on social media, very damaging to young minds. We've got to protect them. I like the way Australia's gone with this. Well, I like the way Australia's gone with this. I think there is an argument to ban it completely. Oh my God. Okay, let me bring in my superstar panel based in Buzi and Steph the alternate. Steph, he just doesn't get it, does he?
Starting point is 00:47:38 Because you can't say on the one hand, I believe in free speech. Then on the other hand, advocate for us giving more power to a corrupt government to patrol us online. Now, absolutely he has a right as a parent. And I think it is good parenting. You ban your own child from social media. That's what we need more parents to do. But fundamentally, he claims to believe in free speech at the same time as advocating for further state control of our media. The two things don't marry up, Stiff. No, it doesn't. And I'd go one step further.
Starting point is 00:48:14 He claims for free speech, this, that and the other, but then goes on to the BBC that is really anything but free speech at this point. It's just the mouthpiece for the government. So he can't have it both ways. He needs to pick a damn side and he needs to stick to it. for me, him going on to the BBC is just proving to me more and more how much of a hack he really is.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Now, I've got a little bit of a personal kind of thing with this because earlier on this year, the BBC actually invited me to go on to one of their shows to talk about multiculturalism. I told them to piss off. I basically turned around and I said to him, I don't believe you've got the journalistic capacity to actually report on this issue.
Starting point is 00:48:57 And that's exactly what Piers Morgan should have done. All right, he's trying to. a hawk a book, but do you know what? Your integrity and your beliefs and your ethics are supposed to be worth more than a freaking paycheck. He sold himself out. He sold his soul to the BBC devil. Well, that's the thing that's really interesting to me based in Bucci. It's like, here's, you've got a major show in the independent media space. Like, you don't have to go and do this anymore. But he feels to me like he's more happy and more at home when he's in a mainstream media studio. It's almost like that's what he wants to go back to. That's why I'm so confused about
Starting point is 00:49:41 because his show has done pretty well for an independent, you know, I guess you'd call him a journalist. So I'm not sure why he felt the need to go back to the BBC and start promoting his book and things like that. But I have a love-hate relationship with Pierce Morgan in the sense that sometimes I do find him entertaining, but sometimes I feel like he just lies too much. So for him to sit here and to be talking about the work mind virus and freedom of speech, is he forgetting his interview with Tommy Robinson
Starting point is 00:50:06 a couple years ago? Is he forgetting the way he shot Tommy Robinson down? He didn't even allow Tommy Robinson to get a sentence in about why he was there and why he was speaking up against Islam taking over in the UK, which Pierce Morgan is now doing on his show.
Starting point is 00:50:23 So Pierce Morgan, I don't know, he's good at his job, but the way he is constantly hypocritical i can't tell if he's doing this on purpose i can't tell yeah i mean and god don't get me wrong it obviously is an entertaining and very successful show outspoken uh well no his is called umcensor mine is called outspoken which is way better right way better but but you know i think what a lot of people choose to forget but i don't is that time during the Good Morning Britain era, which was all about shutting people down if they didn't give in to the COVID narrative. And that was so damaging to this country. The BBC did ask
Starting point is 00:51:06 Piers Morgan if he's considering running for Prime Minister. Watch. You've got a lot of views, a lot of opinions. Have you thought about politics? Would you consider a career? Well, somebody did say PM for PM has a certain ring for it. Was it PM? I think it was a few PMs, actually. You know what? I've never hanked to be in politics. But I do look at the current situation in our country and do think, wow. I mean, it does seem to be a shockingly mediocre top tier of politicians. And I think back to when I was young, when he felt like the cabinet, for example,
Starting point is 00:51:42 was full of really smart intellectual people who'd all done things in the real world, which have been successful. I don't get that sense anymore. Those kinds of people don't want to go into politics. And I think that's a shame. I would also go the Singapore route, which is they pay their population. politicians, a million dollars each, and they remove, in one fell swoop, they remove corruption as a potential way for people to go down. And I think that there's an argument, if you pay
Starting point is 00:52:05 peanuts, you get monkeys. And I think we've got to start paying politicians better, but with that more accountability, and we demand more from them. Isn't that the problem, though, that so many of us just can criticise from the outside, from the sidelines? We all have views, but none of us are actually going to put our hat in the ring and say, you know what, I could change this? I could do this better. Yes, it is. But I do think there are fundamentals of running a country. I went up to Kirstarmer at a party this summer. I said, Prime Minister, I gave him my unwanted views.
Starting point is 00:52:31 But I've known have a long time. We're fellow Arsenal fans. We're top of the league. I know I'm in Manchester, but we are top of the league and we're going to stay there. How long for? Until the end of the season, until the trophy, I don't want to do really. Probably win it around my birthday, March the 30th. I don't want to upset my Manchester fans, both of them with that, but that's what the current situation is. But I went on to him and I said,
Starting point is 00:52:49 Prime Minister, can I just offer you some advice? I said, you've been in power for a year now. I said, you've done so many you. turns and you've made so many pledges you haven't kept. Why don't you just stop making pledges? Just stop making pledges. I mean, they're up to about 20 now. I mean, I think what's interesting to me is he's at a party with the Prime Minister, right? That's a different sort of world. That is a Westminster inside a world. Now, Pearce did also speak about his departure from Good Morning Britain. And I did want to talk
Starting point is 00:53:25 about this, because he seems to argue that because he was cleared by the off-communist, the state regulator of television, that means that he is a responsible journalist. And it's like, can we please just move on from this rubbish right? Like, I'm proud that the off-communist found in breach of me on GB News, and I had to leave as a result, because what did that prove? pushing the boundaries. I was questioning the narrative and the state wanted to shut me down. So this whole boast about, yeah, I got lots of complaints, but I did nothing wrong because the off-communists said I did nothing wrong. Like, who cares? They shouldn't be controlling our speech full stop. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Did you also find sort of the confines of television, you know, or traditional linear television? And, you know, there are certain rules around how you make shows like this, not in so much as what you can say, but how you make them. Was that difficult for you? Well, we're going to find out my next few minutes, aren't we? Yeah, I mean, I always made the point. I was a former newspaper editor, so I kind of knew where the line was. I liked to be very outspoken and express my opinions, very firmly,
Starting point is 00:54:44 but I never felt I really crossed the line. And in fact, the whole five years I did Good Morning Britain, we never had an off-com ruling against us, the TV regulator. There were 57,000 complaints about me disbelieving Mega Markle. I think nowadays it would be the other way around. If I believed there'd be 50,000 complaints. But they all got rejected, which was quite an interesting thing, which people tend to forget in my whole story around Good Morning Britain,
Starting point is 00:55:07 is a few months after I left, Offcom came back and said, actually, he was perfectly entitled to have his view not to believe somebody. And no one in this country should be compelled to believe anybody. We live in a free democratic society. I absolutely agree with that last point, Pears. I absolutely agree. We live in a free democratic country. So why the hell do you think that a state regulator should tell you what you're allowed to say on television or on the radio? It's nuts. It's completely nuts. And I am absolutely delighted that the thing about outspoken being on YouTube is that we are not regulated by those of communists. But trust me, if one day they do try and take on the internet, it will only lead to bad things.
Starting point is 00:55:50 things, and that's why we all need to be fighting it. Breaking right now, a major media scandal over sly news suggesting that Prince Andrew should shoot himself as there is a growing storm engulfing the British royal family. Now, this is an incredibly interesting one for me, because, yes, I have given very tough treatment of Prince Andrew for well over a decade. I was at The News of the World in 2011 when we first revealed the fact before anyone even knew that Prince Andrew had reconciled and was in New York with the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein. In fact, if it wasn't for the media pressure over Andrew, there's no doubt that the deep state would have covered up this entire story. Indeed,
Starting point is 00:56:49 even today. We've seen once again the media revealing that Prince Andrew hasn't paid a penny in rent for 22 years and he's now being described as the peppercorn prince because there's this crazy old-fashioned agreement where he doesn't have to pay any money to live in Royal Lodge, simply has to give up a peppercorn once a year. At the same time, I have also urged for there not to be total hysteria around this story given we are talking about a man who has not been found guilty of any crime and has lost everything already. He has lost everything. Prince Andrew is now a figure who will go down in the history books as one of those awful footnotes, right?
Starting point is 00:57:43 Queen Elizabeth II, greatest monarch of all time, had a real. terrible second son, who was caught up with one of the world's most infamous paedophiles and he lost everything. Prince Andrew can't change that. But he poses no clear and present threat to the royal family as a result, unlike Prince Harry and Megan Markle, who are actually trying to destroy it. But for me, and you know I'm a free speech absolutus, and by the way, I'm not calling for sly news to be shut down and I'm not calling for Nigel Cawthorne to be cancelled. But for me, they really crossed the line, really crossed the line about the type of media world we want to live in, the type of society we want to live in, especially given everything that's gone on in recent weeks in regards to Charlie Kirk. Because what you're about to see is a guest on sly news advocating for Prince Andrew to shoot himself dead as a response to this saga.
Starting point is 00:58:48 And what you will also note is that the presenter of Sly News doesn't disagree for one second. Simply thanks the guest and moves on. Now, let me just stress again, if you think that a suicide is the way out of this debacle, you've got another thing coming. Why are we in this mess? Because of the apparent suicide of Jeffrey Epstein behind bars. Although if you believe that, you still probably believe in Santa Claus too. So watch this really shameful piece of broadcasting.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I know many might disagree with me, might think that is the route to go down, but again, do we really want to live in a society where we now have the mainstream media advocating for someone to kill themselves? I don't think so. Watch. Save, of course, that there's no imputation of guilt of Vincento. the presumption of innocence is with him like everybody else. However, he's the royal family. He's an honourable man, he's an officer and a gentleman. Now the traditional, honourable way out of a situation, it involves a tumbler of whiskey, a loaded revolver in the study.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Thank you so much for joining us this evening and giving us your thoughts on what is most likely to be a very difficult week for the king on his engagements and that shadow the allegations of Prince Andrew continuing to cast long over the royal family. Thank you very much, Judge Gawthon. Thank you. Oh, you thank you so much. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:00:41 No, no, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, it's never the answer. It honestly isn't. It really isn't. And if any of you have dealt with suicide in your own life, in your own extended circles, you'll know why that broadcast was so deeply irresponsible on so many levels. And it's not what we should be advocating for. What we should be advocating for is for criminals, like Jeffrey Epstein, to face
Starting point is 01:01:11 justice. And because of his suicide, that's why so many victims of this man have not been able to see justice. At the same time, it is undeniable that this is now a storm engulfing the entire royal family, as the respected royal author Tom Bauer made clear on GB News. I just one has the feeling there's panic in the palace rudderless leadership everything is causing huge damage to the royal family into Britain and it's all predictable months or not years ago ever since the news night interview which of course shouldn't have happened and the palace has just let it trundle on until the daily mail on Sunday released the emails and all the rest and there's so much more terrible incriminating stuff to
Starting point is 01:02:03 And where's it all going to end? One just realizes that the king needs to take a firm hand. He's ill. He has not good advisers. I think Prince William has been remiss in not stepping in and being more of an influence on his father. I think the cabinet secretary is invisible. The prime minister has done nothing. The great and the good, the wise men, the establishment of Britain, is allowing the monarchy just to drift into an unbelievable quagmire.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Tom Bowers right. Do you think Maggie Thatcher would have allowed the royals to get themselves into this state? Do you think Tony Blair, and I'm no fan of the guy, would have allowed the royals to get into their state? Absolutely not. Because of course, now there is a drumbeat in politics to strip Prince Andrew of his Prince title as well, with reports overnight that there is cross-party support for an act of parliament to formally remove the disgraced royals titles. The government says it doesn't want to get involved. But even conservative shadow minister, Robert Jenrick, was prepared to speak out on the BBC today.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Life forever, stop having any subsidy from the taxpayer whatsoever and go and lead an entirely private life. The public are sick of Prince Andrew and the damage that he's done to the reputation of our royal family and this country. What we should be worried about, though, as you rightly say, the victims of Geoffrey Epstein, this appalling scandal. And they deserve answers and justice. And that involves Prince Andrew giving evidence, informing inquiries about what he knew
Starting point is 01:03:44 and what his involvement was. And yes, he should do that. So you're saying, you would say that Prince Andrews should go to America and speak to the authorities? Well, look, that's a decision for him and for the authorities in the United States. It's not for me to say. But what I do believe is that the victims of this terrible scandal deserve to have answers. And if Prince Andrew can contribute to that, then he should do. And unfortunately, what we're doing, and this is the real risk, if you're a monarchist and a royalist like me,
Starting point is 01:04:11 is what we're currently doing is empowering the Republican movement. Look at that odd little bloke, Graham Smith, who posted, I was at Royal Lodge just now where Andrew is hiding. So he's stalking Andrew again. Talk of losing titles as nonsense. There needs to be police investigations. and an inquiry into the royal cover-up. But I'm afraid that he's going to get a lot more coverage than he would have previously, given what else is going on.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Watch. This is Royal Lodge where Andrew is hauled up, trying to keep away from trying to keep away from trying to eyes of the world whilst he is facing mounting accusations of criminality, obviously the sexual offences going back 25 years, and also now accusations of trying to corrupt a police officer and accusations made in Andrew Lowney's book about misconduct in public office when he was trade envoy. Now, the debate raging at the moment in the media is all about whether or not he should lose his titles,
Starting point is 01:05:08 which is quite frankly an offensive debate when he should be faced with criminal investigations. At the very least, the police should be not protecting him at the gates here, but instead of arresting him, taking him to a police station and questioning him under caution. And given the amounting evidence, there should be a high likelihood. of that leading to prosecution. That's not happening and we're hearing stuff about, you know, or should he lose his Duke title, which is not lost, you know, should he not be allowed to go to the coronation, which is clearly absurd as a punishment for sexual offences if he's guilty of those. So, you know, we need to change the tune and change the debate and the guy now hiding away in here
Starting point is 01:05:51 needs to be taken down to the station interviewed and hopefully charged and facing serious consequences And meanwhile, his brother and his nephew need to face consequences for the clear, cover up the constant efforts to protect Andrew from scrutiny so that they can protect themselves from any kind of blowback. Because all of this has been about rich and powerful men protecting themselves by putting distance between other rich and powerful men who are accused of the most horrendous crimes. So it's time to get rid of this lot altogether. And to do that, we need to start pushing for proper accountability. for serious accusations of criminality. To my superstar panel, based and bougie and Steph, the alter nerd.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Steph, firstly, can we just discuss sly news? Now, openly broadcasting people advocating for Prince Andrew to take his own life. I'm sorry, I believe a moral line has now been crossed. I have covered this story in detail. and been incredibly harsh on Prince Andrew for many years. But it feels like we're losing any sense of civility here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:09 And it's dangerous. It's setting a very, very dangerous narrative. And because people have heard it now on mainstream media, they think, oh, we're now allowed to say this as well, that Andrew should just go and end himself in this way. it that's no good now in terms of the horse reaction to it i'm not going to condemn the host as such because what that guest said was so outrageous so egregious so evil that in the face of that i think the horse was just stunned i was like what the hell do i assert of that all right
Starting point is 01:07:50 next thanks for your comments next on the show blah blah blah right uh but yeah absolutely reprehensible the person that said this should make a public statement and apologize. The most that we can say when it comes to Prince Andrew is that he should be questioned and if there is any evidence that can lead to an arrest and a potential prosecution, then that's the route that it should go. Not the only justice that's worthy of anything from him is for him to end his life.
Starting point is 01:08:24 He said, Dan, we're in this, mess because Epstein ended his life, right? Oh yeah, but there just happens to be no CCTV footage of the cell and you know the deep state investigations into what happened insist, oh no, no, no, this was just
Starting point is 01:08:43 incompetence. I'm sorry, I do not believe it. I do not believe it. And Basin Bouging actually, one thing that people should be wanting to do probably is preserve Prince Andrew because he is one of the only people in the world who may be able to cast some light on what actually went on with Epstein. Exactly, this is what I've been saying.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Instead of us trying to condemn him and demonize him, how about we use our brains and actually say, do you know what, this person was around Epstein, so maybe we should use this guy as a means of trying to investigate what happened to Epstein. Now, in regards to the comment that the, you know, person made in the BBC... Nigel Hawthorne, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:25 yeah this is why churley kark was murdered this is why because the leftist media keeps inciting violence they keep inciting violence and then when someone passes away they either shocked or they're celebrating it and i'm sick and tired of this now as for prince andrew yes we should investigate him yes we should look into what he's done but him dying what is that supposed to do you know this is a christian country so the first thing we should be preserving is life even if someone has you know done something wrong. We are all sinners by nature. Not only that, but we're always talking about the great replacement and, you know, the demise of British values. I think a big plan or big part of trying to bring down British culture and British values is by trying to take down the royal
Starting point is 01:10:09 family, this constant attack that we are seen towards the royal family, whether it's through Harry and Megan and attacking, you know, Prince Andrew is them also trying to take down British culture because one thing I, you know, love about the British family, sorry, the royal family. sorry, is the fact that in a world where everything is changing, the royal family is the one thing that has stayed the same. It's the one thing that has preserved itself. It's still very conservative. It's still very British. And we should be proud of that. We should preserve that. But in every corner of the media, they're just trying to destroy it and demise and, you know, bring its demise. And I'm just sick and tired of it now.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Indeed. Absolutely. Very, very well put. And I just think we've all got to be. clear and to consider it. And of course we have been covering this story and uncovering the scandal since 2011. And as Steph says, if there is criminal activity, Prince Andrew, of course should be investigated just like anyone else. But when we get to the point where commentators on television are openly advocating for him to go and take a revolver and shoot himself, I think we've jumped the shark on this. I really, really do. today, King Charles's health is at the centre of why he has been unable to properly handle the Prince Andrew scandal. The mainstream media will not report this. As loyal outspoken,
Starting point is 01:11:41 viewers know, I have been prepared to sensitively go there. And I'm going to explain why again. Because yes, King Charles is an individual who deserves respect, but as the monarch, as the head of state, there is huge significance in terms of the state of his health. And the reality is that there is a growing feeling within the British royal family that King Charles is indeed dying. And that is why power is shifting to Prince William. That is why Charles's appearances are becoming few and far between, and he is looking unwell, and of course I have so much sympathy for him in regards to this, especially given he was struck by this terminal cancer so soon after taking the throne. Of course, there is almost a Shakespearean tragedy-like storyline to the life of Charles.
Starting point is 01:12:40 But at the same time, we do have to be realistic in terms of what this means for the British royal family and the decisions that a King William the Fifth is going to make both in terms of Andrew and in terms of Harry and Megan. Now, I'm going to give you some context to all of this. I think it's important and I do want to do it sensitively. First, this is what Lady Colin Campbell revealed here on outspoken. The king is not in any position or health-wise to add to any stress and burdens that he already has.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I mean, his cancer is not curable, or certainly, let me rephrase that for public consumption. It is not yet cured, and there is no great prognosis that it will ever be cured. So he is having to live with treatment. Now, what this means, of course, is that the power within the British royal family has shifted towards Prince William.
Starting point is 01:13:47 And Tom Sykes of the Royalist substack, who has been thrust out of the international royal rotor because of his decision to report on the King's Health, does have some stark words about exactly what is going on. He reports readers of the Royalist, unlike those of the Craven British newspapers, will be aware of the central fact informing and underpinning this entire story that King's Charles the third is dying. Now, Tom Sykes appeared on Substack, and I do want to show you some of this because it's important that you see this in the full context because he gives, he paints a picture
Starting point is 01:14:28 of that reality being why Buckingham Palace has not been able to properly cope with the Prince Andrews situation. Watch. it's a very powerful indication of the chaos which the king's office is in partly as i have repeatedly said and as you won't read in any of the uk newspapers this is all about the fact that king charles is seriously ill and is not expected to live very long and you can you know you can tell that by looking at the photographs, by looking at his schedule, like, how quickly and briefly he attends many events by the fact that he has to go for these very long rest periods, you know, he's in Balmol at the moment, these very long rest periods before doing any major event. Like, he has to go to the
Starting point is 01:15:27 Vatican on Wednesday, and he's going to be the first leader of the Church of England to pray with the head of the Catholic Church. So it's very obvious to, anybody watching that the king is really ill and as i've also said repeatedly you know i i think he's been amazing i think he's been incredibly courageous incredibly brave all all the wonderful adjectives of praise that you could throw at andrew the example and i think it's you know anyone who we've all we've all had had friends or family who struggle with cancer and and we know, you know, how inspiring it is when people are amazing about it. But also, fundamentally, it was a massive mistake to announce that he,
Starting point is 01:16:19 it was a massive mistake to announce that he had cancer. It's completely weakened him. The queen did not tell anyone, did not even tell her own family that she was dying, and she had bone cancer at the end of her, like the last couple of years of her life, which is very, very painful. You know, I was told she couldn't see very much. She certainly couldn't move around. She spent a lot of her time in bed.
Starting point is 01:16:45 But she clung to the fiction that she was immortal because she knew how important it was. She knew how destabilizing it would be if she effectively did what Charles has done and pre-announced her own death because it fires the gun. It fires the gun on the succession. And that is what this is all about.
Starting point is 01:17:04 make no mistake. So I guess what Tom Sykes is saying is there's been a cost to the transparency, the early transparency that King Charles had about his cancer battle. He explains how that eventuated. And I say it's good that he announced he had cancer, but I want to point something out, right? He didn't mean to announce. Initially, that was not the plan to announce that he had cancer.
Starting point is 01:17:29 initially what happened was he was diagnosed with a benign prostate condition and he decided that it would be a good idea to say that he was having treatment for a benign prostate condition for the very admirable reason that it would encourage other men to do it it would be stigmatized the condition you know all of those things we hear about but also I'm afraid because Charles is a lot of always been aware of his OPR, right? And he realized this was a good way to do a good thing and also portray himself as a modern, accessible guy. This was going to be a very different kind of monarchy to the queen who was obsessively secret about her health, et cetera, et cetera. But then when he went in for the benign prostate treatment, they found the cancer while they were doing that and by that stage they it was too difficult then to cover it up or hide it or not cover it up but keep it quiet it was too hard to keep it quiet because too many people knew and everybody was asking how did the surgery go so they would have been forced into a direct lie and you know
Starting point is 01:18:49 direct lies that are not not unknown in royal communications but too many people knew like if they hadn't said in the first place that he was going for the benign prostate treatment, which I think was a form of water ablation, which is quite a common treatment for guys as they get a bit older. If they hadn't
Starting point is 01:19:10 said he was going for that and they'd done that procedure and then they'd found the cancer and then they'd been able to figure out what it was for six or seven weeks whilst keeping him private and saying that maybe you know he wasn't feeling
Starting point is 01:19:26 well or what have you, they might have been able to contain it a bit more. But because of that announcement, there has now been what Tom Sykes reports is a shift of power. So the power starts to drift away. And that's why Charles's office is being managed so badly, why it's so chaotic, why the messaging is such a mess, why on Wednesday we were being told, oh, there's no point that's tricking him of the Duke title, he'll still be a prince. And on Friday, suddenly the king's acted decisively and stripped him of his duke title.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Now he's still just a prince, which is like nothing. Do you know what I mean? It's like, so the whole thing is a, it's really very hard to understand everything that's going on in the royal story at the moment. If you read the new UK newspapers, which basically talk about Charles's illness as if he has, you know, a nasty cold. or he's a guest at a dinner party who cannot be, you know, who cannot be offended or something like that. So I think, well, what all those people do? Someone say, I can't imagine what all those people actually do at a thousand.
Starting point is 01:20:40 I mean, it is, that is a good point, but it is, the point is, it is a huge operation. It's a huge operation. And, you know, people want to be on, people want to be on the, right side of the coin. They want to be, they want to be allied with the right person. Rob Shooter has also sort of gone there in his most recent reporting, writing King Charles's brave battle as Prince William protects the crown. The walls of Buckingham Palace are whispering with concern, not scandal, as King Charles III faces the greatest battle of his reign, a serious closely guarded illness that has left even his fiercest critics full of admiration for his courage.
Starting point is 01:21:23 Royal Insiders tells you to scoop the 76-year-old moniker's seriously unwell but determined to carry on, refusing to relinquish his duties despite growing fatigue. He's exhausted, but he won't stop, says one long-time aide every morning he insists on reading his red boxes. He believes his service to the country is his calling, and he'll keep going as long as he can. Behind the scenes, Prince William has taken on more responsibility. Even the decision to strip Prince Andrew of the Duke of York title was a joint act of resolve. father and son, united to protect the institution. So to my superstar panel, based and bougie and stiff, the alternate. So stiff, of course, on one of your channels, you cover the royal family.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Where do you stand on this? Because obviously reporting on someone's health is difficult. My view is that because he's the monarch, it's certainly historic. It's not something that we can ignore. And at the same time, given the Prince Andrew scandal, it really does provide some type of insight into why so much of this power is moving to Prince William. Okay, so I don't really report on the king's health. Unless it is confirmed from the palace itself, I don't really discuss it much or touch upon it much.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Because yes, he's the king and I see your point that you're making there, Dan. However, he's still a human being and we're talking about private medical information and everyone has a right to their privacy when it comes to their medical information whether that be the king, whether it be Hazard, Megzie, Princess Gaffrin,
Starting point is 01:23:08 you know, anyone. Now, in terms of that clip that you played from Tom Sykes, that really, Tom Sikes really pissed me off. Go on. Go on. Right. Here we go. Oh, my goodness, here we go.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Tom, it wasn't a massive freaking mistake for the king to announce that he had cancer. Are you shitting me, mate? If he didn't announce that he had cancer, right? I'm telling you this right now. We would have had a Where's Cape Part 2? And you would have been involved in that as well, alongside Lousy Boozy, the Sussex squad idiots and morons and the rest of him. You'd be like, where's the king?
Starting point is 01:23:48 Why haven't we seen him in a while? then there'd be comments about his appearance, etc, when he would come out in public. So by being transparent, all that BS has actually been avoided. Now, how bad is his cancer now? Do you know what? It's not a madame business. We know, right, that King Charles, to coin a little bit of a phrase from you, Dan, has a superstar royal panel to help him on his duties. You've got the likes of Prince William, Princess Anne, Duchess Sophie, Prince Edward, etc.
Starting point is 01:24:18 So, for example, with the Prince Andrews situation that you're referencing, reports are coming through that Prince William really was the main architect and the force behind getting Andrew's titles effectively removed. So with that kind of superstar royal panel backup that the king's got, I'm not worried at all with the king and his capacity to undertake his duties. He's actually following, as far as I'm concerned, his mother's footsteps, to undertake his duty as king to his country and us for as long as possible. And that, to me, needs to be applauded.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Absolutely. And I do applaud that. And it was heartbreaking to see him looking the way he did yesterday. But I think, I guess, the difference with the late Queen and Prince Philip is that people like me who were reporting on the royal family at the time knew that they were suffering from. I mean, certainly the late queen in her last couple of years had very, very serious cancer, but she chose not to announce it. So while I completely agree with you, I think Charles's transparency should be applauded. I think it's sort of unrealistic to think that people are not going to see for themselves what's happening. And it's an interesting one, isn't it, based in Bouging? I mean, I do agree that, of course, this is up to him what he chooses to reveal. However, when it comes to
Starting point is 01:25:45 the Pope, for example, in Vatican City or the president of the United States in the U.S., because they are such important figures and, of course, heads of state, they do have actual medical transparency, right, where their health records are provided in some way, obviously not all of the intimate details to the public. So, I don't know, it's an interesting, It's an interesting debate, but I think certainly where it has become very relevant in this story based in Bougy is that it's William who's now calling the shots, right? And it's William who demanded that action was taken on Prince Andrew. It's William who wants to see, I guess, the King go one step further. You know, he doesn't think it should be Prince Andrew at all.
Starting point is 01:26:41 He certainly doesn't think there should be Prince Harry or Prince. Prince Archie or Duchess Megan and Duchess Lily. I mean, William is all about protecting the future of the British monarchy, and I think he's going to take a much tougher stance. But I guess that's relevant based in Bougain because, you know, if he was not going to accede to the throne for another 20 years, then maybe it would be less relevant. Do you see the point that I'm making?
Starting point is 01:27:11 Yeah, I mean, he is to add to the throne, And so, of course, he's going to take quite a harsh stance and he's going to be the one that's going to try to move the decisions around. But I guess ultimately, whether King Charles, you know, let the public know about his health, do his health issues or not. I think the main thing we need to remember is that the royal family, they're still human beings. You know, I think people actually forget that they're still human beings.
Starting point is 01:27:33 They should have a right to be private or they should have the right to be public. Now, in this case, I think that King Charles definitely should have been public about his health issues and we should be applauded him. him for that. Because look what happened with Kate when she wasn't public. There was so many rumours sweating around about her disappearing, people even saying that she was secretly dead. And it just causes so much stress to the actual institution of the royal family. So ultimately, my personal opinion on this is that I think we should just remember that the royal family are human beings and that we shouldn't, you know, pressurise them on when and when they shouldn't
Starting point is 01:28:06 inform us on their, you know, medical issues. Steph, would you like to see King Charles go further on Prince Andrew, or do you feel that the statement released on Friday night was enough? Because there's certainly a sense of growing, I guess, political outrage in the United Kingdom that Andrew has effectively been allowed to do what Harry and Megan were allowed to do, right? Which is just say, oh, don't worry about us. You know, we're not going to use these titles. going to use our HR status when, of course, we know in Harry and Megan's case, they have been. So my understanding is the difference with Hazzer Megzi and the Prince Andrew situation is that with Prince Andrew, it's been put in pretty much abeyance. So it's this like legal agreement
Starting point is 01:29:00 that Prince Andrew has got with the raw family where he's not able to use the titles again. And they didn't do that with Hazer and Megzi. So that's the first thing. In answer to your other question, should they go further? Well, that's a difficult one to answer really in a way because he has put the royal family into disrepute. And the main thing that members of the royal family have to do is to protect the monarch, protect the crown at all costs,
Starting point is 01:29:32 which is what Prince Andrew hasn't done. So he does need to fall on his sword in order to protect the crown. At the same time, as you said earlier on, he's not being found guilty of anything, but he's lost everything. But the evidence out there doesn't look good so you can understand why he's losing everything all at the same time, just his association with Epstein alone. Bloody hell, I can understand why he's lost everything just on that.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Then you look at all the emails that are coming out and more information coming out about how he's lied about his relationship with Epstein and the girls, this, that, and the other. And so, I suppose, coming around to that way thinking, you know what, let's put it this way. If an actor parliament came through to remove Andrew's Prince title, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. If the Royal Family remove him from the Royal website, again,
Starting point is 01:30:25 I'm not going to lose much sleep on it. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting because Rafe Hadle Mancoo, who's brilliant guy, you know, historian, broadcaster, excellent on Royal Matters, certainly as supporter of King Charles. And he's been pointing out some facts, just some clear facts around this. And based in Bougie, he just makes the point that Prince Andrew has not been formally stripped of his titles. Legally, he remains, His Royal Highness, the Prince of Andrew, Duke of York, Earl of Inverness, Barren, Killarly. so only parliament can take action here
Starting point is 01:31:07 well I think personally I think they should look into his association with Epstein why not honestly the whole world is talking about Epstein and you know obviously with Trump as well trying to shut down the case that was suspicious so I feel as though Andrew is the one guy that could actually give us the truth so if they give us some kind of investigation for that then why the hell not and then from there we will find that whether he was guilty or not guilty. But one thing I've realized about the media is that once the media has branded you as guilty, you're guilty for life.
Starting point is 01:31:39 That's the thing. Yeah. Once they've branded you as guilty, whether the son, the BBC, you're guilty. So I just think whether they go into the investigation or not, his brand will always just be guilty. And that's the thing. And I just try and be fair on this, right? I try and be fair on this because what you're saying matters.
Starting point is 01:32:00 Yeah, I've reported a lot of. of stuff on Prince Andrew myself over the years. So it's not that I don't believe that he should absolutely be susceptible to full scrutiny, but we do live in a country where one of our fundamental beliefs is innocent until proven guilty. He has not been proven guilty of anything. He did want to fight Virginia Dufre in court, and he was asked not to, and the royal establishment came down on him like a ton of bricks, because of course it would have overshadowed his mother's Platham Jubilee. So it's a difficult one. It is a difficult one. But I think we've had an honest discussion about it here without hysteria. And that's important to me. Thank you so
Starting point is 01:32:45 much to my two rising stars of YouTube and new media based and boozy. You've got to subscribe to her channel and Steph the Alternerd, who covers the royal family, actually, as well as British politics and many other things. You're both brilliant. Love having you on outspoken. Thank you. Thank you, Steph and based and boogey. We're going to reveal today's greatest Britain and union jackass. And just a moment, remember, Prince Andrew is nominated. But to your feedback now, uh, Pexie Sterling says, every time I see CED can refusing to answer Susan Hall, my blood pressure rises and the fact he refers to her as she, I need medication. Jaina K5V says, I used to be an anglophile, but you could not pay me to live in the United Kingdom now. Luke Jones says if the England football team won a trophy,
Starting point is 01:33:39 you would still see Palestine flags on the streets of England. What would Gary Neville think of that? He'd probably be happy, wouldn't he? He would probably be happy. And Salarian, Unlimited, speaking of Pear's Morgan, says, never forget this pompous twat was very unpleasant to those who refused the jibby-jabby to the point of refusing hospital treatment for those who didn't take the free liquid gift. Anglo-Saxon 666 says he's desperate to be back in the so-called mainstream.
Starting point is 01:34:08 And Paul on this revolting comment, I think, from a guest on Sly News, advocating for Prince Andrew to shoot himself, says Sky News definitely crossed a line with that comment about Prince Andrews. So great feedback from you today, but let's reveal today's greatest Britain and uni and Jackass. Now, a reminder of your nominees of the worst Britain in the world today. George Aberoni, nominated by Darren Donaldson, the incoming president of the Oxford Union, who has finally lost that confidence motion. He's out, folks, great news. Zach Polanski, nominated by Dr. Wolf, because he leads the Green Party acting as a Trojan horse for Islam.
Starting point is 01:34:44 And Prince Andrew, nominated by the Chris of Cornwall, for being a complete shameful embarrassment to the British people and the Muslims. monarchy. Okay, your results are in. In third position, George Aberoni with 22% of the vote, the runner up with 33% of the vote, the green leader, Zach Polanski, but following in the footsteps of his ex-wife yesterday's union jackass with 45% of your vote, Prince Andrew. And today's greatest Britain is Graham Linehan, nominated by the real McCas, because the Met Police have dropped their investigation into his social media post, concluding that they will no longer investigate non-crime-hate incidents. Good luck to him in suing them for wrongful arrest and false imprisonment.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Okay, we're moving over to Substack now to continue the conversation in the Royal Uncanceled After Show. Buckingham Palace doubles down by revealing Prince Harry and Meghan Michael remain a bigger threat to the monarchy than Andrew Windsor and Sarah Ferguson as plans are drawn up to deal with the Sussexes once and forth. So we're going to reveal the results of our bombshell Outspoken poll over on Substack with our Royal Masterman, Angel 11. Please sign up www.w.w.w. outspoken.org. So at this stage, we're moving off YouTube. We're heading over to Substack, www.w.w. outspoken. Live. But I will be back with you tomorrow. 5pm UK time mid-day eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hit subscribe if you're watching on
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