Dan Wootton Outspoken - SADIQ KHAN LONDONISTAN PLOT REWARDED BY SLIPPERY STARMER AS ANDY BURNHAM BECOMES LABOUR LEADER

Episode Date: July 17, 2026

BREAKING TODAY: The fight for Britain has just begun, with the Rat King of the North Andy Burnham stacking Number 10 Downing Street with members of the evil organisation Hope Not Hate which encouraged crazed leftist hatred against the assassinated Ann Widdecombe. His anti-democratic coronation as Labour leader today disgraces the Disunited Kingdom, having faced absolutely no tough questioning about his hard left, high tax and pro-Islamist agenda. Today’s coronation was a sickening display of leftist vibes, with no detail of the hell they are now planning to unleash on us all. Slippery Starmer’s last act in Downing Street is to reward Lord Sadiq Khan from turning the greatest city in the world into Londonistan – a crime-ridden Islamist hell hole. Joining Dan for the entire show is political YouTube sensation Leo Kearse. PLUS: Reform UK demands James O’Brien face Ofcommunist sanctions for suggesting Nigel Farage should be got rid of just one week after Ann Widdecombe’s assassination. AND: Alex Armstrong is forced to go through the most craven GB News humiliation ritual yet, as the presenter comes out as gay live on air to try and limit the leftist backlash to an anti-Pride guest making a perfectly valid argument during a live TV debate. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle leaks details about Prince Harry’s UK reunion with King Charles to People Magazine, as the Duke makes a bizarre new solo appearance on an American red carpet. Legendary royal reporter Robert Jobson joins us with the latest. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken #uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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with members of the evil organisation Hope Not Hate, which encouraged crazed leftist hatred against the assassinated Anne Whittaker. But yes, Andy Burnham's anti-democratic coronation as Labour leader today, I believe, disgraces the disunited kingdom. having faced absolutely no tough questioning about his hard left, high tax and pro-Islamist agenda. Yet posting apparently humanising bullshit like this. I don't know why. I just have a feeling that it softens the teabag a bit and makes it stronger.

Might be wrong. I know that will offend a lot of people, but there'll be no legislation to ban that. Today's coronation was a sickening display of leftist vibes with no detail of how, of what the hell they are now planning. to unleash on all of us. We won't beat Britain's new right if we are consumed by infighting and pulling in different directions. This is a last chance to change and we must take it together, united together.

And sorry, it just gets worse today given that Slippery Stahmer's last act in Downing Street has been to reward Lord Sadiq Khan. Yep, Lord Sadiq Khan rewarded for turning the greatest city in the world into Landanistan, a crime-ridden Islamist hellhole. That exchange between Sean Bailey and myself is proof if it was ever needed that we should abolish the House of Lords.

But it's not only that sign, the Punjabi sign. I don't agree with that either. English only. We are in England. Why am I having this conversation? You are forgetting that there's other people, they're trying to get difficult. Then don't come to our country. No, no, but we're here. We're being here.

Don't come to England if you're not going to speak English. Well, at CPG, I wasn't having it. Let me just point to one thing. I mean, we are here in the great city of London, in one of the bedrocks of the western. The one's great city of the world. It is not great under city, can't. No, we've got to be honest about it.

Come on. It was once a great city. This is no longer a great city. But think about the person. We'll show you much more from CPAC TV, including the moment former Prime Minister Liz Truss broke down on stage while paying tribute to Anne. She was a kind and generous human being

and we are all so devastated that she has been taken from us. Now let's reflect on Anne's remarkable life. Joining us for the entire show today, political YouTube, sensation Leo curse. Also coming up, Reform UK demands James O'Brien face of communist sanctions for suggesting Nigel Farage must be got rid of just one week after answer assassination. And Alex Armstrong is forced to go through the most craven G.B News humiliation ritual yet as the presenter comes out as gay live on air to try and limit the leftist backlash to an anti-pride guest making, I thought, a perfectly valid point during a live TV debate, which is the point of debates, right, for people to disagree

about controversial views. Then, in the Royal Uncanceled After Show over on sub-sac, Megan Markleaks details about Prince Harry's UK reunion with King Charles to People magazine as the Duke makes a bizarre new solo appearance on an American red carpet. So legendary royal reporter Robert Jobson is going to join us with all of the latest at WW. outspoken. Live because it's a Friday, we're also going to be revealing the worst Britain in the world this week. It's when we put your union jackasses from across the week head to head. Today, Adam Bolton, Kathy Newman and Lucy Powell. You can vote right now in the posts tab on YouTube. Do keep your comments coming in too. I will read out some of them before the end of

the show. But now, let's go. We're finished. Well, at least the capital of the disunited kingdom from where for now I still broadcast outspoken every day is finished. Because imagine turning the greatest city in the world into London-Astan, a crime-ridden Islamist hellhole, and then being awarded for it. When folk say there isn't an out-and-out plot to destroy English culture and society, then how the head. Heck, do you explain this? Sir Sadiq Khan has been awarded a peerage by Sir Kyrs Stama days before resigning as Prime Minister. The London mayor's elevation to the House of Lords opens the door to him joining Andy Burnham's cabinet in the future. So yes, rewarded for an Islamist plot. Rewarded for the cultural vandalism of one of the most important places in the West. I believe this is now a coordinated globalist attempt to finish us off.

Because now he's done with London, it's clear Khan is coming for the rest of the country. When one of my brilliant fellow panelists at CPGB yesterday tried to say, London is still great, I had to interrupt. Let me just point to one thing. I mean, we are here in a great city of London, in one of the bedrocks of the western great city of. The Western civil... It is not great under Sadiq Khan. No, we've got to be honest about it.

Come on. It was once a great city. This is no longer a great city. But think about the... If you don't believe me about how bad things are in Lundanistan under Khan, I just want to show you what happened

when Alfa in the independent journalist Montgomery, Tom's of Freedom Watch UK, visited Whitechapel recently just a few minutes from the financial heart. of the city of London. We need mass deportations and to reclaim our British roots. Madam, you are wearing a burqa.

That is not British. That is not English. So that is changing the culture. We're a Christian country. British people will be a minority in this country within the next 50 years. Let's see what happens. Let's see if you can push whatever you need to push it.

We can and we will bring back British culture. We will bring back the British people. If you come to Britain, you speak English. Yeah, but we are speaking English, but we need to. We have to do. We have hope it. We need people. They expect everyone to speak English.

Why am I having this debate? It's incredible to me that I'm an Englishman who's born and bred in this country. My ancestry dates back thousands of years in this country and I have to have an argument about what language we speak. What's the whole topic on? But it's not only that sign. But I don't agree with that either.

English only, we are in England. Why am I having this conversation? Other people. That means you are forgetting that there's other people. Some people they're trying to get difficult. Then don't come to our country. No, no. Don't come to England if you're not going to speak English.

Why is that controversial case to say? This is my country. This is my country. Why am I sitting here having to deal with it? No, no, no, no, no, it's our country. This is my country. This is my country. This is for everyone.

Why are you in Makahiri? Well, I, huh? When, what are you from? You started there. You're telling me? You came to speech, so. Yeah. You're telling me?

So let's just think once more about the Sadiq Khan that they are rewarding with a peerage. So this man won't allow the England football game to be shown on big screens in Trafalgar Square, our cultural heart of London. But is happy to turn said Trafalgar Square into the act of the biggest display of Islamism in the world. in the Western world, outside of the Middle East, in history. Do not tell me that this is not part of a plot. These traitors are also liars. Kirstama insisted he would not hand out resignation honours if he became PM, and has now done exactly that.

And Sadiq Khan said in December 2022 during a London Assembly session that we should abolish the House of Lords, so presumably he will decline this parish. Mike Graham discovered the receipts of that moment. That exchange between Sean Bailey and myself is proof if it was ever needed that we should abolish the House of Lords. He's not there yet, Chair.

Even the establishment Politico reported throwing 16 new Labour peers into the Lords and bringing his Lord birthing total to around 150, 66 of them Labour, far more than the 92 hereditary peers he managed to delete, was not the line when Labour was elected promising proper Lord's reform and possible abolishment. And listen to Stama's stooge official response to the U-turn. His spokesman said Sadiq has been a brilliant man who has transformed London. Yeah, that much is true.

But the better. So this is thoroughly deserved. He has cut violent crime to record lows, cleaned up the Capitol's air, delivered the Elizabeth line, and got London Building Council Homes again. Anyone in this city that we broadcast from every single day, for now, knows they just lie and lie and lie some more.

It is twisted. To see how destructive this decision to propel Khan really is. Why don't we just look at who is celebrating it? Narenda Corposed. Hora! If anyone deserves to become a lord, it's Khan. I'm really happy as hard work in London and success with saving lives through clean air has been recognised. Also, loll? It's now Lord Khan, Mayor of London and the haters are going to explode. But as Lauren the insider responded quite seriously, Narenda, a woman that values clean air on Khan's resume more than safeguarding children. What makes at worse is Narendra as a mother. Shame on you. Yes, I must also point out, the Pakistani Muslim

rape gang cover-up has gone on in London under Khan's watch and for a period of time he would not even acknowledge that he knew what the term meant. So trust me, this fight is just about to begin. That's because Andy Burnham became Labour leader at midday in a coronation, having faced absolutely no challenge whatsoever. The entire process was sick-making. Labor believes we are stupid and have acted as if there has been a democratic process. Yet the coronation began, it wasn't inspiring.

Trust me. It began with former Stama Stoja's, Lucy Powell and Shabana MacMood. Cracking dodgy jokes, watch. We're here for a special conference. It feels like the sort of last day of term a bit today, doesn't it? It's kind of non-uniformed.

not for you today, Andy. And maybe we'll go and have a water fight later out the back, if anyone's up for that. The returning officer has informed me that the requirements of that contest have now been met. It's hardly a nail-biter, folks. And so despite the efforts of a lone MP, I can confirm. Dispatching a hardcore socialist with a smile into the role of Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is no laughing matter for us. a joke. But these people are a joke because in a gross moment, Powell, who had been stabbing

Stama in the back ever since she lost her job, because all these people care about is personal power, had the cheat to praise Slippery Stama's legacy. Lifting half a million children out of poverty, real wages rising and interest rates falling, restoring Britain's standing around the world as a force for good and change, ending no-fault evictions, railed back into public ownership and giving our mayor's powers over buses, of which I'm sure we'll hear more about. Day one writes to sick pay and finally ending zero hours contracts. And just this week, Hillsborough Law, what a moment that was. And finally, ending the hereditary principle in the House of Lords.

That is just to name of you. That is a legacy he can be. be very, very proud of. A legacy to be proud of? Peter Lynch died in prison. Lucy Connolly was locked up for over a year for the crime of being angry about three of our young little girls being slaughtered by an Islamist terrorist, who they still deny is an Islamist terrorist. The Pakistani Muslim rape gang cover-up has been in full force across the entire country,

not just London. Our economy is trashed. Benefits are out of control. The justice system has been destroyed. What legacy? But their new Messiah Burnham also praised two-tier care on stage, despite plotting to dethrone the man

for well over a year. Keir put labour back in a position to change people's lives, and that is what we have been doing these last two years. New rights for workers and for renters. NHS waiting lists falling for the first time in years. in fact since I was Health Secretary I think so well done

Wes rail back under public control Britain's reputation rebuilt on the world stage and as Lucy said just this week the biggest rebalancing of the scales of justice

this country has ever seen today we thank here for his service to our party and to our country Mr. Nice Guy, Burnham also declared war with what he described as the new right. So I presume he's talking about you and me here. Watch. We won't beat Britain's new right if we are consumed by infighting and pulling in different directions.

That is and always has been an indulgence that falls heaviest on the people who need labour. most. Fighting to eradicate it and the insidious briefing culture that goes along with it will characterize my leadership. Perhaps in one of the only honest statements made during this coronation, Burnham admitted that this is Labor's last chance. I said we hadn't been good enough. I told people what I would do to fix it. You know what? People started to listen. again. They gave us a fair hearing, as the great British public always do, and then another chance. But let's be honest, everybody, this is a last chance to change, and we must take it together, united together. But this is a man who is all about vibes, right? His entire campaign has all been

about vibes, so he managed to slip in a joke about Kemi Badernaut mocking his clothing choices. We won't try to outgreen the Greens or out reform reform or doing what we've done in the past of wearing too many Tory clothes. Let me tell you, I'm quite happy that Kemi doesn't approve of my wardrobe choices because I'm not keen on theirs either. But do you know what I think about this speech doesn't matter what he said at all. what matters is what he didn't say. Not one word on stopping the boats, stopping the invasion. Not one word on the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs that remain out of control. Not one word on the Islamist takeover.

Not one word, just a week since a particular event. not one word on the leftist terrorism that I believe resulted in the assassination of Anne Whittaker. And our hopeless MSM didn't ask him one damn question. Do your job. Woke ITV's Robert Peston, who was there in the room, wrote on X, this historic and wholly unexpected election result is here for your edification and delight. Believe it or not, Andy Burnham is now Labor's leader. that made me so mad.

He was in the room. So I responded to Mr. Peston. And you've just accepted? Not asking a single question. If this were a right wing leader, there would be outrage and you know it. You would be chasing him down the street. Waiting outside his house every damn day,

do your job. Shout if you have to. So what is Spurnum really doing? With all of these dudes in the MSM nodding along, wanting him to succeed. He is stacking his Downing Street operation with the evil organization, Hope Not Hate, that has turned leftists against Patriots. With Nicholas Lowell's former director Matthew McGregor becoming Burnham's, I mean, I can't even believe I'm saying this, new director of political strategy in Downing Street. Now let's just think about hope not hate.

Okay, let's think about hope not hate. And I described this as how the evil left work. So Hope Not Hate has launched websites to, in my view, turn crazed leftists against patriots, right? Against lots of patriots. Against me. Against Nigel Farage. Against Rupert Lowe. Against Tommy Robinson.

Against the Lotus Eaters. Honestly, the list could go on. But also against Anne Whitcomb. There it was. an eight-minute read, an eight-minute read of pure hate designed to turn crazed leftists against Anne Whittickham. And guess what happened when Anne was assassinated by a crazed leftist? The website disappears. All the others, though, remain live.

And Andy Burnham is hiring these cretons. yet there has been zero MSM focus on this issue. Instead, we're getting absolutely banal videos like this one where Burnham's biggest crime is not stacking number 10 Downing Street with the members of hope, not hate, but putting the milk in the tea before the tea bag. Veemently against, stop it immediately. Or against, very strongly against, anti-social behaviour.

You just don't want to listen to everybody else's nonsense. No. Where's this come from? It should not be done. Strongly against. And in fact, if I ever get a position of power to do something, I will pass legislation to ban it. I have been known to wear my Birkenstocks with socks. I'm not sure I should be admitting that. Oh my goodness, that is strong against. When we've been away with the kids on Holly over the years, it was always a kind of topic of conversation to think someone's going to clap at the end and you kind of brace yourself. It's not my thing. I'm not a convert. I am receiving lots of advice from many quarters.

right now, some of which is in the form of voice notes. I'm against. What happened to living in the moment and just absorbing what's right in front of you? Why are we all like doing this? Then you kind of go and then you kind of missed the thing that you actually went to see? No, very much against. It's more likely, actually, statistically, that goals are scored in time added on. And look at how many minutes are adding on these days, you know?

So no, definitely not. Stay to the end. Kind of a bit of a northern thing. Take your shoes off, leave them on the step. Yeah, all that. I don't know why. I just have a feeling that it softens the tea bag a bit. makes it stronger.

Might be wrong. I know that will offend a lot of people, but there'll be no legislation to ban that. No, no, no, no, don't give a shit. Don't give a shit. But I do care about you stacking your administration with hope not hate, and I want you to be asked about it

every single damn day. This new Burnham administration being ushered in is already a total mess. By the way, already out each other's throats, despite what he said. Gido Forks, repeating that where's streeting was spotted crying in the lift, down from where Burnham's offices and parliament,

That prompted this week denial of all the bizarre speculation I've read in recent days. This is the best. I wasn't even present, let alone involved. Hope my doppelganger is okay, though. But it is becoming increasingly clear that Chivana MacMood, who back to 50P income tax, will be made Burnham's Chancellor overstreetine or Mad Miliband. So that probably is why he's crying. The Polly Market has moved so significantly on the Chancellor appointment, by the way. This is all in recent days with traders in real time.

now reporting there is an 85% chance of MacMood taking the job from Rachel from account. So is she better than Mad Miliband? Well, I guess yes. But I mean, God help us. I don't trust this woman as far as I can throw her. Then we get to St. Rhys-Darmer's farewell tour, where he is trying to make clear that he never hid the truth about his private life from the British public that his wife and children never moved out of Downing Street just a few months ago.

It is all sweetness and light. So let's bring in Sly News political propaganda. Sorry, I mean, political editor, Beth Rigby, the woman known for berating Boris Johnson around the world. She's in her war boots and her lovely green outfit with her mate, two-tier care in Ukraine, to conduct what is, I promise you, her biggest softball interview ever.

PM, you've spent a lot of time on foreign affairs. You care deeply, clearly about Ukraine. you've worked very hard with Zelensky and Macron. You're clearly leaving office before you are ready. You would not have chosen to go now. Why have your MPs rejected you after such a short time? Well, the way I look at this is not just the two years we've had in government, but the six and a half years that I've been on the front line.

I took over the leadership of the Labour Party early in 2020. We had just lost the 2019 election. That was the worst election result for the Labour Party since 1935, and most people thought the Labour Party is finished, it will never win again. And even those that were a bit more optimistic said, if they do win again, it'll take 10 years. I'd never believe that. I turned it around.

We ripped out anti-Semitism. We forced the party to face the country, and we began to make real progress. Begrudgingly, people said, well, you might win, but it'll be a coalition, because you won't get a majority, and we've got a landslide victory. So for the parliamentary party, the question who was the right person to save our party, to take it to victory in a general election, and the second biggest majority ever of a Labour government,

that's answered, I've answered that question. They're now asking the question, who's best to take us into 2029. They've given the answer to that question. Do you agree with the answer? I accept it. That's a different answer to agree. I accept it, but I accept it and this is really important with good grace. I mean, we all remember the way she used to berate Boris Johnson.

The tone is just insanely different. I mean, she is clearly devastated. He's not going to be there to fight the next election. And also, I have to be honest with you, they're both deluded as each other because it's clear they both think that he could have won that election. Therefore, from the moment I took the final decision, Yeah, you... I have not only done it in good grace, I've done it trying to ensure that there's an orderly transition and that my successor can succeed.

And I believe that to be true, I think we've built strong foundations, a stable economy, which it's impossible to imagine that we've done in two years, much stronger public services, huge measures on child poverty. We'll do more on child poverty than any government, including the Labour government. We've done more on defence and security. We've enhanced our international reputation. Now that is a sound foundation to go on and win in 2029. And amongst the reasons that I accept the decision of my parliamentary colleagues. I'm going in good grace and what to support what comes next is. I believe in my country.

I want my country to thrive. And in the end, I've said many interviews with you, country first. And I mean it and I'm going to live it. Do you think if you'd stayed on, you could have won the next election? Labour could have won with you as the leader. I've always believed we would win. Now, we all know Stama is a droid. Okay?

One of the reasons we hate him so much is that he finds it impossible to express genuine emotion. So I'll bear fast to feel the pain for him. It must hurt to have to leave. Look, it's a very difficult decision to... decide to end your political career. Of course it is. And I'm not going to sit here and pretend otherwise. And what I've had to grapple with is the question,

what is the answer of my parliamentary colleagues to the question about 2029 and accept that? What is the best thing for the country? What's the best thing for the government? Oh, so how can we humanise slippery stammer? Beth has a final go. and she's going to do it by bringing in Lady Victoria Stumb. Lady Victoria, who was so miserable, by the way, that she actually moved out of number

10 with the children a number of weeks ago. Something only revealed by me, not the mainstream media. Slippery Stummer has lied about the reality of his family throughout his time in number 10 down the street. But for our Biff Rigby, the brave sly news political propagandist, it's not Lady Victoria to her. No, no, no, no, no. To her good mate, it's just Vic. Just Vic. Let's talk about Vic.

Can I ask you, what did Vic say to you? Because she, what did Vic think? Well, I'm not going to get into the ins and outs of what Vic said. But I can tell you this. Through every step, she's been with me. Yeah. The good, the bad, the challenging, the great moments, the victory nights, the really low moments when somebody,

I tried to burn our house down, our family house, when my brother died. The last few months, which have not been easy, but she's been there at my side every step of the way. And so that's why we had to take the decision together. And that's the way we will always be. And I do realize how lucky I am to have such a rock. Because there are lots of eyes in politics. There are a number of lows.

and to have someone by your side who is 100% part of an inseparable team is remarkable. Pass me the sick bucket. You know why we've got big issues in this country because the mainstream media treaty, a failed Prime Minister like that, and they are providing absolutely zero scrutiny on the incoming Prime Minister who has not been voted for by any member of the British public to take this job. Now, Leo Curse. So Leo, as you can tell, I'm pretty pissed off today.

It's like we've got a scenario where Lord Khan, Lord Khan is a real thing. So I'm trying to get my head around that. Then I'm trying to get my head around the fact that all of these. MSM journalists are just there clapping along for Andy Burnham at this bizarre coronation, not asking a single question. And then the only person who actually does have an opportunity to ask some really difficult questions of Cypri Starma, given the hell that he has unleashed on this country over the past two years, and she provides what is effectively hagiography.

I mean, honestly, I am just despairing today, Leo. Yeah, me too. And also, as well as the lack of any scrutiny or accountability for Starmor, there's a lack of scrutiny and accountability for Andy Burnham. As he comes in, we've seen so many softball interviews about how he makes a cup of tea or how he likes to listen to the stone roses when he's jogging. And that's not policy. That's not what matters. I think our media, for all that the government has decided, the media channels such as yours and mine need to be suppressed and we need to elevate BBC and elevate sky and elevate legacy news outlets and in the algorithm. I think it's the alternative media that are the only people asking the

questions. Yeah, I wonder why they want to do that right, Leo. Yeah, yeah. And for Sadiq Khan, for Sadiq Khan to be to be made appear, you know, this is after Starmar said, there's not going to be any resignation on or it's like, oh my God, as soon as a politician says something, you know, the opposite thing is going to happen. And for him to be made appear after he's changed London so irrevocably, I mean, London is now a minority white British city. Like Britain's capital, England's capital city is now minority white British, which is, which is incredible. I mean, I lived in London for about 25 years. I've moved out now because it's becoming a crime-ridden hellhole. I mean, look at what happened to Monty here in Whitechapel, Leo. It was terrifying. But, but, but,

actually, you could walk out in Whitechapel any day of the week, Leon. That's what you're experiencing. Absolutely, absolutely. And it feels like an alien city, a lot of it. I mean, in the time that I was there, I saw mass immigration affect it. You know, so many Somalians arrived that parts of London just don't feel like Bangladesh anymore. And, you know, this has really changed the nature of the city. You know, we associate London with Cockneys.

that they've been completely pushed off their old tribal lands and they've all been forced to move out to Essex. And the idea that if you filmed EastEnders now, if you made East Enders now, it would just be, you wouldn't have a single white face in it. Well, Leah, you know what? It would be the BBC's dream show. Yeah, yeah.

And there's no, you know how in America and in Australia, you get land acknowledgments for names, native tribes. I've never once you know, land acknowledgement for Cockneys, for the native custodians of the Dagenham River Basin. So, yeah, I mean, I think it's a real shame what's

I'm to London. And it's been done for votes. The left have brought in people from overseas purely to get their votes. And then, Leo, this other really chilling development that a number of people connected to Hope Not Hate are going to be taking

senior roles. I mean, these are not small roles, Leo, senior roles in the Andy Burnham administration. And I just put to you this, Leo, if hope not hate really were doing nothing wrong with that targeted piece of propaganda about Anne Whittaker, why did they try and scrub it from the internet after her assassination? And would they do the same, Leo, about the piece about me if I was assassinated? Like, is it only once their targets are unalived, that they say, oh, we don't need this article up anymore? Yeah, I mean, it's so sinister. Andy Burnham was talking about how basically we're going to have the most left-wing government ever, which I'm sure is what the nation's crying out for.

You know, everybody was like, oh, my God, you know, Kirstarmer has been so right-wing. No, people don't want that. But Andy Burnham is basically saying, you know, we're going to return to the 70s. We're going to have nationalization of industry. it's going to be a problem. We're going to have higher taxes. We're going to have more splurging on welfare. But part of being extra left wing is what we've seen under far left governments in East Germany or the Soviet Union is where the population is closely monitored by secret police. And essentially, hope not hate, are the sort of secret police, the FSB, the KGB, the Stasi. of the Labour Party. They're very incestuously linked. And they're going to be digging through,

using all kinds of dirty tricks to try and, you know, smear any politicians or commentators on the right, people like you and me. And they're also, they're also, I mean, I think there's a certain level of incitement. As you've pointed out with that article on Anne Whittaker, I think when people on the left speak about right-wing politicians with such absolutely dehumanizing tones to justify anything, justify any violence, justify any destruction of their lives, that incites and encourages people on the left.

Because the difference between the left and the right is the right deal with reality. They deal with the way the world is now and the way it's heading. whereas the left deal with utopia. And if you're creating some sort of incredible fantastical utopia, then any amount of terror, any amount of death and destruction and starvation is acceptable because you're heading towards this glorious, wonderful communist utopia. So you can see people on the left see it as completely acceptable

to slaughter and destroy people on the right. There's now absolutely no doubt that the assassination of Anne Whittaker, The senior Reform UK spokesperson, also close friend and colleague of mine over many years, was politically motivated. But I still believe there is a massive establishment cover-up going on here. Have you noticed how the mainstream media just very quickly were like, oh, we can move on. We can move on from this story. You know, yeah, third, fourth down the news agenda.

We're not even going to mention it at all anymore. and it was left to the independent reporter Nicholas Lassack. To reveal overnight, I've been informed that the man in custody for Anne Whitakam's murder is allegedly an active member of a mainstream left-wing political party. It has further been alleged that the suspect was motivated by Whitakam's conservative views on gender identity, shocking if true. yet there is a huge battle going on within the, I guess, right of British politics about where is the line in terms of speech? And I have to be honest with you, I'm at quite a different

place than where Reform UK seems to be at because I know my friend Anne would be horrified if her assassination was being used to crack down on free speech. It's like, crack down on left-wing terrorism, yes, but we don't need to crack down on speech. because speech that is illegal can get you in a hell of a lot of trouble already. Just ask Lucy Connolly, okay? But what I will do is call out crattons on the left for being crattons, for being, and this is a word he hates, so I'm going to use it again, subhuman. And one of those men is absolutely James O'Brien of LBC, with Reform UK's chairman,

now demanding a formal apology from the lefty host over distressing and dehumanising attacks that he made on Nigel Farage. Now, I want you to listen to these attacks, and you can be the judge about whether he has gone too far. Oh, I'm being persecuted because I'm so successful at making money. You've literally been handed money by somebody who, hours, days, weeks later, I heard you announced policies that were going to make him even richer than he was when he gave you 5 million quid in secret. It's like going down a coalmite. You wouldn't want to do a shift like the shift I've done. 77 votes on the bounce he's missed in the House of Commerce, but he's working so hard.

So hard. To make that money. To make the money that he just gets handed for no reason. Sorry? For a variety of different and conflicting reasons. You've got this idea that the scales have tipped. that the gig is up, that Farage is finished on a national level. When I was reading last week, all of these suggestions that the game was up,

all of these suggestions that he'd run out of road, all of these suggestions that the Mars could finally slip, I just wasn't feeling it. I don't know whether that's because I was unplugged, or whether it's because I've seen it all before, and I would have arrived at exactly the same conclusion, even if I'd been on air for three hours a day for the last two weeks. Is it different this time?

Or will we be here in six months' time? Looking back upon this period last week, moving forward and just going, yeah, he is. He is the unflushable poo. He is the irremovable skid mark on the wide fronts of British politics, and there is nothing we can do to get rid of him. Okay. Nothing we can do to get rid of it.

Would James O'Brien have said the same thing about Anne? I just wonder what message he's sending there, because of course he knows about the threats to Nigel Farage's safety. He then ever so charmingly decided to refer to Reform UK supporters as thick. Do you like them? very expensive but guess what I bought them myself

how about that I don't think you did mate well prove it seriously hey you can spend the money on whatever you want you can spend it on Ferraris you can spend it on very so this is what he's doing

he's on stage in front of his customers and he is responding to the story about Kirstama declaring gifts from Wahid Ali including spectacles by claiming that he buys his own glass and not telling them, so if you're in that audience, perhaps you can hear yourself laughing. 20th of September 2025, 2024, 24, 24,

5 million quid in his bank account already, claiming to his mugs, sorry, customers, sorry, supporters, that he buys his own glasses when he is not telling them. So maybe you can hear your own voice in the crowd laughing at that, because he's laughing at you. These people are so thick he's saying to himself that I'm going to tell them that I buy my o'grasses without telling them that I've got five million quid million in my bank off a cryptocurrency billionaire based in Thailand.

Okay, so I guess it's just a fundamental question here. I don't think any of us agree that James O'Brien is a subhuman prick. The question is what is the way to deal with him? Is what he's doing directly putting Nigel Farage's security at threat? And don't we have to be careful as an overall movement on the right that we are not immediately doing what the leftists do, which is call for people to be cancelled, call for police investigations, call for further regulation. And I just post this as a question because I do understand James O'Brien is a despicable force

here in the United Kingdom in terms of our discourse. But I'm not quite sure this is the right approach from Reform UK. Let me take you through it. Reform UK now demanding a public apology over the remarks, pointing to Offcom's broadcasting code rules around. hate speech. The regulator's definition of hate speech includes forms of expression used to spread or incite hatred based on political opinion of the opponent. In a letter to the broadcaster seen by the Daily Mail newspaper, Leanderson argues that Mr. O'Brien's comments are clear breaches

of these rules. He writes, Nigel Farage is no stranger to criticism from commentators. However, to dehumanize him in this way, referring to him as excrement and a skidmark, and then to idly mews that there is nothing we can do to get rid of him is beyond the pale. This clear personal dislike of the man paired with his earlier disregard for Nigel's claims around his personal safety, these bogus victimhood narratives, make for very distressing listening indeed. Reform has called on our VC and own a global to instruct Mr O'Brien to make a public apology for his remarks and to issue him with a warning about broadcasting rules around hate speech. The party warns that failing this, they will lodge an official complaint with Offcom next.

Monday. So Leo Curse, I'm torn on this one and I'm sure you can imagine why. I mean, leftists weaponised the off-communists against me, really, to cause me to lose my mainstream media career. Of course, I absolutely understand the hypocrisy. I mean, James O'Brien, I mean, I didn't even say anything in this case. I basically tittered along to something that Lawrence Fox said, but James O'Brien says, the most despicable, disgusting things about people on the right every single day and never, ever faces any type of action as a result. But at the same time, Leo, is it really what we should be doing on the right? You know, there's something I feel a bit pathetic about Lee Anderson, like saying,

oh, hate speech, and oh, off-com, and oh, apologize. Like, personally, I would rather just see Lee Anderson call this out publicly and call on people to stop listening to James O'Brien, to boycott. James O'Brien. But where do you stand? Because I do understand, and I want to be clear on this, the huge sensitivities within Reform UK at the moment after the assassination of Anne Whittickham. I mean, that goes without saying. But we've also got to be careful, I think, when it comes to free speech, because Anne was the most vociferous proponent of free speech. Yeah, I'm going to see where you're coming from. But I think if you want people on the left,

because let's be honest, it's people on the left who are pushing restrictions on free speech, who are pushing, you know, off-com's monitoring of people like you. People in the left won't understand that free speech is necessary until they experience the repercussions of being targeted by off-com, being targeted by cancel culture themselves. So I think it's absolutely right that James O'Brien, having being part of the left, having helped create this weapon of cancel culture, having helped create this weapon of off-com regulation, should then be subjected to it himself.

And also, I'd say that the stuff that James O'Brien has been saying, he didn't just titter along to a funny, drunken comment. He said things that are absolutely abhorrent. And in a climate at the moment where we're seeing politicians apparently being assassinated by left-wing activists, This is very, very dangerous. So he described Nigel Farage's excrement as a skid mark and also commented about getting rid of him. And this is, I mean, this is the language of, well, you can draw your own conclusion.

I think this absolutely does deserve to be scrutinized. And then we also have what is going on within Reform UK itself, Leo. And of course, we do have to talk politics. We do. Like, it's not disconnected from all of this. And a new Cervation poll released this afternoon, shows reform support plummeting, are now just within 1% of Labour. And Jacob Rees-Mogg, obviously a conservative, but let's be honest, a colleague of Nigel Farage at CB News, definitely pro-Farage. like this is not an anti-Farge guy, reporting on the fact that there are now people within Reform UK talking about deposing Nigel. Watch this.

But I'm also concerned that I hear from my friends in reform that some of this information has been coming from within reform and that there are problems within the party with people wanting to take over Nigel's job. That matters even more because divided parties very rarely succeed, almost never succeed, the strength of reform has been its unity around Nigel. Nigel remains the only person capable of leading a right-wing party in strong opposition to the

Conservatives. There's no one else of his charisma or ability to understand the British nation. If he is not there, then reform is going to find life extraordinarily difficult. And this by-election farce has made that more likely. It's not good for him. It's not good for reform. I don't think it's overall good for what I would call the broad Tory family, although it may help the Conservative Party a little bit in the opinion polls. Now, look, Leo, it's one poll, okay? It is one poll, and it's a poll that comes when Andy Burnham has not actually had to do anything other than sort of like deliver some vibes. But I still think this is going to set the cat amongst the pigeons, right? Because if you look at this poll, reforming, you. UK down 3% to 24% and actually Labor up 5 to 24%. Perhaps the most fascinating thing for me within this poll, though, is that the

Kemi-Badernot bounce, which people have always joked about and laughed about and sort of said doesn't exist. Well, I actually think it is starting to happen because the fact that the Tories are at 21% is quite extraordinary to me. No movement really for the Lib Dems and the Greens have slumped since. Stamas was deposed. And what I do have to note about Restore Britain, by the way, down there at 2% is that they are not prompted in polls like this.

So I also believe very strongly that Restore's polling is underestimated. But in light of this, Leo, and I can actually just tell you because I'm looking at the notes from Servation, that this is Labor's highest polling since November 2025, but reforms lowest since just after the May 2025 local elections. Do you think there's any realistic threat to Farage's leadership, as Jacob Rees-Mogg seems to be suggesting there? Yeah, I mean, I think the donations scandal, it does hit his credibility.

Although, you know, I think that's kind of unfair. When you see the level of threat against Farage, you can understand why he might want five million pounds for close personal protection. And when you're talking about close personal protection, 24 hours a day, five million pounds doesn't go very far. I mean, you burn through that very quickly if you've got round the clock, you know, former military officers making sure a deranged leftist doesn't kill you with a wooden

club. And also I think, you know, that scandal won't be as damaging to Fras as it would to, you know, say somebody like Starmer. And also we've got to recognize that, you know, hedge, offshore hedge funds have donated millions to the Labour Party. we've had energy barons such as Dale Vince donate millions to the Labour Party and the unions donate millions to the Labour Party and all of those people get favours in return.

So this is just how politics works. Although the personal donation to Farage, I think it was to Farage personally, not the party. So it is kind of separate. But we can see the establishment escalating the attacks on Farage, doorstepping his family. there's also this now assassination or apparent assassination of Anne Whittaker, which is a lot of people on the left seem to be celebrating it.

So will Farage be pushed out? Does this polling actually matter? I don't think this polling really matters. We're seeing this honeymoon bounce for Burnham. But I've got to tell you that the honeymoon is ending now, and especially the direction, the trajectory that Andy Burnham has marked out for the Labour Party. is going to be disastrous. The last thing this country needs at the moment

is an anti-business government that's going to raise taxes and spend more on welfare and create more of a sort of surveillance society oppressing its own people. And this is where Kemi has actually been quite smart. She's sort of tacked away from the culture wars and made the Tories the party of business

or, you know, alleged in the sort of serious. We're the serious people in the room. I mean, what's very interesting, and I think, Leo, though, is that Burnham has obviously got here, as I say, based on vibes alone, right? I'm a nice guy, and certainly when he's in direct comparison

to Nigel Farage, well, sorry, direct comparison to slippery Starma, like, of course he looks more human, like Starma was terribly robotic and like a droid. But I really do think we need to start looking into what a Burnham government is really going to look like, and it's this hiring of Matthew

McGregor from Hope Not Hate as his director of strategy, which I think is hugely significant. I mean, Gido Forks has revealed today that he has deleted his X account. And you think, well, I wonder why. What do you have to hide? And unfortunately, we don't have all of it yet, Leo, and I hope we do get some of it. But I just want to show you a couple of examples of what he has to hide. So from June 2016, this is the new director of strategy at number 10 Downing Street, responding to Nigel Farrar. with the words, another reason to vote remain to tell this racist piece of shit to do one.

So we know he hates Farage with a visceral passion. So how is he going to deal with that? Well, censorship, unfortunately, attacks on free speech. Because look at this. From October 2025, so nine years on, politicians hosting shows on news channels can blur truth and opinion. Offcom needs to tighten its rules. and ban it, but it's not going to happen unless we speak up. Sign the petition to protect media impartiality and ban all MPs from hosting news shows. And what is the picture they use there?

Nigel Farage on G.B. News. So the vibes may be one thing, but what we're about to get from this new hope not hate administration, I believe, is authoritarian censorship. And certainly, and attack. I mean, we know the attack on us is coming, on YouTube, on the algorithm, but also I think on GB News and Nigel Farage's ability to host on GB News. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And when we look at hope, not hate, even though they put themselves forward as a hope, not hate, they're actually a really despicable far-left activist organization. You use all kinds of dirty tricks and have all kinds of horrible people working for them. There was Lyron Velleman,

who was convicted of child sex offences. There's Matthew Collins, the head of their intelligence, who's admitted to attacking women with hammers. These are not nice, morally upstanding people. These are not the people who should be controlling the surveillance state, the Stasi state. But this is what we're going to get. And these attacks on Farage,

they're coming from every. angle on everyone on the right. There's going to be all kinds of smears, all kinds of dirty tricks, anything they can do to take people down and bully people out of public life. Because why would you, if you're Farage, if you're, you know, he worked as a, I believe it's a commodities trader in the city, why would you quit a job like that where you're making good money, having a great time? Why would you quit a job like that to become a politician where you make far less money and are subjected to constant attacks and constant scrutiny and constant abuse and genuine risks to life, why would anybody do that?

This is the left's playbook. This is how they keep people out of politics who oppose them. The first CPACGB in Sadiq Khan's Landanistan this week was always going to be a very interesting affair for a whole low, of reasons. I'm very honest about the fact that even though I was very privileged to be there and to be part of one of the panels about the new media, I also have serious concerns about the fact that this organisation seems to be favouring one side of the right, Reform UK and Nigel Farage, who was made a keynote speaker, while blocking out others, including the Restore Britain leader, Rupert Lowe, clearly a force on the right of British politics and Tommy Robinson,

not a mainstream politician, but certainly a huge part of the right-wing movement. So I I had my own issues with the conference, but then after the assassination of my friend Anne Whittickham, it actually meant so much more, I think, to be able to be with a group of widely like-minded people who understand the threat that we are under. Liz Truss. The former Prime Minister is the woman who decided to bring CPAC, which is run by Matt Schlapp and was really the only conservative organization. the United States that stayed steadfastly loyal to Donald Trump during his time out of office. And trust began the conference with what became a very emotional tribute to Whitty, to her breakdown and tears on stage. Watch.

She was a kind and generous human being, and we are all so devastated that she has been taken from us. Now, let's reflect on Anne's remarkable life. was really interesting for me to see Liz upset like that because she's not usually a particularly emotional woman certainly after everything she had gone through with her own career no tears whatsoever not like Starma not like Theresa May but she was close to Whitty and she had recounted the fact that they had even uh been friends when Liz had young children and Anne had been very good with her young children. So I think the loss of Witty impacted us all. But there was a broader point of this conference and it was to bring the best of the conservative movement from around the world

together in London with some of our conservative stars to try and give us a bit of hope. And one of America's top independent broadcasters, the close friend of the late Charlie Kirk, the colleague of the late Charlie Kirk, Jack Spopiac, quite rightly, you. used the story of Henry Novak, the tragic story of Henry Novak, to insist that Brits must reject two-tier policing. That because of the color of his skin, because he happened to be a young white man, that he hadn't been stabbed,

he must have been the aggressor. He was the one who was put in handcuffs as he died. This cannot stand. This cannot stand in Britain. It cannot stand in America. It cannot stand anywhere in the West. We will not accept two-tier policing, we will not accept two-tier justice, we will not accept two-tier anything. No.

Reform UK's Matt Goodwin or Matt Badlos, as the wags at the hotel were referring to him after Gorton and Denton, and revealed a fascinating and very talented private conversation with the Trump advisor in Washington, D.C. You know, I was recently in Washington, and one of President Trump's... advisors turned to me and he said something profound he said you know I just visited London for the first time in 20 years

and he said I was completely shocked not just because of the mass immigration not just because of the open borders not just because of the record taxes and the insane energy policy but because of the extent to which

your leaders seem to hate your own people Soala Braverman spoke up for the white working classes. It's a crisis that doesn't tick the fashionable boxes that preoccupy the liberal elites. I want to talk to you about our white working class children, and particular, our boys. Boys and girls whose grandparents and great-grandparents mined our coal, built our ships, ran our factories and fought our wars.

Because the brutal truth is that we are failing them. Not by accident, but through neglect. Jacob Bree Smog was one of the only optimistic people in the room. Because it is so important that whatever wing of politics you're on, you're interested in ideas. And sometimes we think that the blob is, against us. The universities are against us and therefore the intellect is against us. But we must never accept that. Because however strong the blob is, we need to be generating ideas that make

conservatism fit for government in this country. But when I took to the stage as part of a panel on the new media hosted by the CPAC boss Matt Schlapp, very much a great guy and my friend Mike Graham, amongst others, I have to be honest, I was noticing a real elephant in the room. Two elephants in the room. Actually, no one had even mentioned once. Not once. The Restore Britain leader Rupert Lowe or the Unite the Kingdom activist Tommy Robinson. And I understand that it was a pro-reform UK event fundamentally because Nigel Farage was a keynote speaker and so as a result, there was a huge amount of negotiation that went into making sure that he would turn up. And we know he didn't even turn up to the Spectator Garden Party because he didn't

want to come face to face with Rupert Lowe. But for an organisation that is all about uniting the right, I don't think, tell me if I'm wrong, I'm happy if you disagree, but I don't think we can keep ignoring Rupert and Tommy. Do you? So I had to raise it. But it is also naive if we say that we don't need a leader. Of course we need a leader. How did America change? Donald Trump, one of probably the big issues in the United Kingdom at the moment, and I'm probably one of the only people on the right that actually talks about it, is that there is such a split on the right. Because we have three big leaders, I would argue, in Nigel Farage and Reform UK. He's a keynote speaker here this weekend. This is a very pro-reform event.

But there is also Rupert Lowe and Restore Britain and leading the street movement, Tommy Robinson, and Unite the Kingdom. Plus then you do have Kimmy Badenock trying to sort of make the Conservatives conservative again. So there is a significant split on the right of British politics. Donald Trump was able to bring the American right together. I think there is much more of a challenge here

about how that happens. There was another real debate in the room about whether it made sense for the mainstream media, the likes of LVC and the Daily Mirror and politics show and all the usual suspects to have been allowed in when a lot of.

lot of really great conservatives had not really been welcomed in, given that all they did right from the start of the day was try and humiliate CPACGB, try and make CPACGB look like a flop, posting pictures of empty chairs. And sure, it wasn't a particularly well-attended event. And I think that's a shame. And I think it's because Liz Trust didn't want to include Restore Britain, didn't want to include Tommy Robinson and Reform UK. already have a lot of big events, right? That's my view. It was very expensive. We ran an offer here on Outspoken in order to bring the price dumb, but it was an expensive event. But at the same time, do we really want to keep allowing these idiots, these enemies into our spaces?

This is what I said. Today, sorry to interrupt, but today, there are people in this room, there are enemies in this room. Today, I've already seen it, the Daily Mirror Politics, Joe, who are writing shit about this conference already. Why are they here? Seriously, who let them in? I just say, it's pathetic. And Mike Graham, who used to work at The Daily Mirror, explained why his old employees' inevitable death

will be coming in only a couple of years. Nobody cares. The problem with all of these people is they've got diminishing audiences as well. I used to work for the Daily Mirror, believe it or not, years ago. And we used to sell, when I was there, about a million and a half copies a day, something like that.

And it's now down to about 300,000. So, I mean, their audience is dying off. The older people that buy the newspaper are not going to be buying it in two years' time, and they'll be shutting it down. And Matt Schlapp then finished up by asking both myself and Mike Graham, if the right can claim victory at our next general election.

Sitting here after your next national election, are you winners or losers? I think we're winners. I hope we're winners. I'm nervous. I am very, very nervous. Andy Burnham is much, much more of a threat than the right want to believe at this point. Leo Curse, the independent YouTube sensation joins me now. Leo. We were both at CPAC Australia last year in Brisbane. And it was an amazing event. Actually, huge amount of power and positivity in the room. I don't know about you. I didn't feel like the right was as divided in Australia. Of course, there are different parties over there. There's one nation and the liberals and nationals,

but it still felt like quite a positive unified room. And look, I backed CPB. You know, I had Liz Truss on this show. We ran a discount offer for our viewers. I agreed to attend and was part of that panel. But I'm also not going to lie. Like, it wasn't the big, that we hoped it would be. Yes, it is the first year, but there were a lot of empty seats. You can't deny that, even though I do think it was very intellectually dishonest what those left-wing publications did, because they took the pictures at 9 a.m., right? I was still asleep at 9 a.m. You know, by the time my session was on at 2.30, actually, the room was pretty much full. But I do worry, Leo, that it's a little bit naive to say, oh, we're having a big conference about

uniting the right. But, you know, Rupert Lowe's banned and, and, you know, Tommy Robinson is the anti-Christ. Well, then you're not going to unite the right, are you? Like, how is it any different to a Reform UK conference in that case? Do you understand the point? Yeah, although I guess the counter argument to that would be, you know, these people have baggage that I think is quite unfair. You know, in the case of Tommy Robinson, I think he's been unfairly vilified by the media and also people haven't appreciated that, you know, 20 years ago, he was quite a different man with quite different views. And now his movement is very positive. It's not at all, you know, he gets described as a white nationalist, which just factually isn't correct. He's a civic nationalist.

And I think, you know, by the standards of history, he's quite, quite a liberal forward-thinking guy. And the other aspect is that I guess restore are seen as damaging reform. We saw in the Makerfield by-election restore fielded a candidate. I don't know people will say, oh, but if you combine the restore vote and the reform vote, they still wouldn't have beaten Andy Burnham. But we don't know that that's true, because one of the things that people vote for is momentum and the sense that it's worth voting because you're going to win. And I think Restore coming in and fighting against the reform candidate destroyed that

feeling of reform being on the upper foot. And now we can see how we're going to suffer the result of that through having Andy Burnham deliver the most left-wing government we've ever had with hope, not hate, in a senior position. Yes, but my answer about the conference, though, because obviously that was the counter-argument that came up. But my argument is just pretending, right, which is what TV news do and talk TV do, and in some ways what CPAC did, just pretending that Tommy and Rupert are not there isn't going to work, it never works.

I mean, look at this Manchester Merrill election, which is taking place because, of course, Andy Burnham won in Makerfield. Well, the most recent poll I saw Leo, and look, it's only one poll, had restore at 9% of the vote. I mean, that is astonishing, because even 2% to 3% of the vote

is basically going to stop, Reform UK winning enough seats to govern, probably, like according to their own internal polly. So absolutely hear what you're saying. It's a fair argument, but then restore people come back and say, well, Nigel shouldn't have, you know, called the police on Rupert-Lote. You know, we can go through all of that. But when it comes to CPAC, isn't the point that you can't just keep ignoring these people and hoping they go away.

I would say Tommy Robinson isn't going away, right? Like, he's a huge force. look at what Unite the Kingdom is. No one else could do that on the streets of London. And I would also argue that Rupert Lowe has proven that with Elon Musk's backing and with the appearance on the Joe Rogan podcast, you know, the biggest podcast in the world,

he ain't going away either. Yeah, but how do you bring these disparate elements together when there's so much bitterness between them? Well, isn't the start to talk, though? Sorry to interrupt, but isn't the start of that process Leo, to talk, to have them in the same room. You know, maybe if Nigel and Rupert actually happen to be in the same room, you know how these things work, like you bump into someone,

oh, I've had a bit of an issue with them a few years ago, actually have a drink. Maybe I'm being naive, but I just think this idea of trying to keep them all in silos and like you ban people from this event, you know, that certainly isn't going to work. Yeah, no, you actually, I agree. And we saw this at CPAC in Australia. So One Nation, who are the insurgent party, are welcomed in, are welcomed in,

even though obviously they're damaging the electoral chances of the legacy right-wing party. But yeah, they're welcomed in, and I think there's cross-pollination of ideas, and I think the right emerges stronger. And I think it's one of the failures of the right, I guess the essence of being right-wing is that you're an individualist.

So there's going to be more fracturing on the right. But this next election could be the last chance we have to save Britain. So the right really needs to get its act together and everybody needs to pull in the same direction. Totally. Totally. And look, I agree with that. I totally agree with that. And I actually said on stage, I agree with that. But I guess it's all about how we get there. And I'm pretty sure I'm going to be proven right that ignoring Tommy Robinson, ignoring Rupert Lowe, ignoring Restore Britain is not going to be the way to unite the right. That's what I see this sort of right-wing establishment doing, the Daily Mail, the Daily Telegal.

because, you know, they only talk about Rupert or Tommy if it's like, oh, you know, they're being arrested or, you know, far right. Only negative. Only ever negative coverage. We see it. I don't think it's going to work, but look, time's going to tell. But I thought CPAC TV was interesting. I know some people would take what I'm saying as being critical. Actually, I'm not being critical. I love CPAC as an event. I just think it could have been so much better. And of course, we need these things to be bigger. and better if we do have any hope of bringing the right together and winning. So I always stood by my decision not to be forced into an on-air apology when Lawrence Fox made some fruity comments on my LGBT news show, even though that decision not to apologise cost me my MSM career. And that's because I knew that that sort of capitulation to appease hard leftists would change the so-called free speech channel forever. And my argument is that is now what's happened. It's what's happened for a long time. And this week, we got the proof. And if you don't believe me and if you think I'm being tough, I'm going to show you what happened and you can make your mind up. But the highly ambitious chameleon Alex Armstrong was forced by bosses this week, and I know that to be a fact, into a three-minute, what I would describe as a three-minute humiliation ritual actually, live on air.

where he was even forced to publicly come out as gay and claim that some views are not acceptable to broadcast on GB News. And he did this, not because that's how he truly feels, or actually that's what the bosses even believe, but because a leftist pressure campaign once again got to them. Channel bosses were forced to succumb to the tyranny of the off-communists after this debate on socials, called LGBT sex issues at Pride received over 9,000 complaints. Now, that makes it the most complained

about GB News show ever previously. It was my debacle with Lawrence Fox. So Alex Armstrong, I will quite happily hand that one over to you, mate. The debate on where the Pride was suitable for children took place on the channel's weekend primetime show. It is called Alex Armstrong Tonight. And it featured Caroline Farrow, a Catholic who is a regular contributor making these comments which sparked leftist outrage, watch. Now, I think the problem is that pride is not about gay rights. It has become about celebrating every single sexuality that isn't heterosexuality, including some very bizarre and unhealthy hinks and quirks, you know,

like furries and bestiality and even minor attracted, they call themselves minor attracted people, you know, pedophiles. Now, it is important to point out that was during a debate. Okay, a debate where actually Alex Armstrong did provide balance, said he was at pride last year and that the overwhelming amount of people attending were there for good reasons and it wasn't full of paedophiles. He also was sure that there are some nefarious people there. But despite adding that bit of balance, just like I did, by the way, in my whole Lawrence Foxing,

I don't know if you remember it's unfortunately like etched on my mind as some type of trauma. I said that Ava Santina was a beautiful woman after Lawrence Fox said he wouldn't shag her. But that balance wasn't good enough because it is never good enough for the hard left. And so rather than stand firm, an entire week after that Pride debate aired, once there'd been this big campaign, once there'd been these 9,000 complaints, Alex Armstrong had to make a long-winded apology on air. And trust me, it is absolutely. humiliating to watch.

Well, tonight I want to address outrage from the LGBT community and press over comments made by one of our guests last weekend. We welcome robust and difficult debate on this channel, and particularly on this show. It is not and never will be an echo chamber for anybody. That's why we always have a dissenting voice on all of my shows. want you to hear all aspects of every debate. That's made it even more important when guests come on my show and make statements that are considered homophobic or deeply offensive, that they are challenged and balanced by me and my guests if they do that. But sometimes I feel it's necessary to go a bit further.

And I'm going to do that tonight. Okay. It's a little bit shouty here. Comments made my guest last weekend conflated gay pride with the celebration of paedophilia. This is an age-old gay trope. It's been used over a number of years to demonise and slander gay people. And as I said to the guest, during that segment,

it is a statement I fundamentally reject and have not witnessed when attending pride myself. The debate we were meant to be having was around whether or not pride was suitable for children. Those comments by a guest had no place in that discussion and in my opinion we're lazy and offensive arguments that don't reflect my views or the views of this channel where many LGBT people also work. What I do take serious issue with is when social media commentators and activist groups claim that I made those statements. or deliberately try to misrepresent my views in other ways to try and paint me as homophobic. I will not be smeared by people and media

who are politically motivated to try and counsel me for simply opposing their political ideology. It's ludicrous! I'm sorry, it's a debate. The whole point of having this debate was because Caroline Farrow disagreed with you both. That's a debate. If you're a free speech channel genuinely, that debate should allow to be had.

And how on earth can you tell me for an absolute fact, Alex Armstrong, that there were no minor attracted people. Hashtag petapiles at that pride event. Had Hugh Edwards ever attended a pride event? Probably. Probably. You know, he is one of those people. Minor attracted, pedophile. So she made a comment.

you were offended by it, that's fine, you push back, but why does her view not have a place on a free speech channel? Ah, well, we know why, because he mentioned the LGBT mob within GB News. And that's what this is about, because it's why they always hated Lawrence Fox. I remember when I was there, the campaign to cancel Lawrence Fox was actually nothing to do with Ava Santina, it was to do with the fact you might remember this.

He burnt the pride flag in his garden on X, and the LGBT mob didn't like it. I didn't cancel him as a result. because I believe in free speech. I didn't agree about not wanting to share a Gavis Antina, although personally as a gay man, you know, not my thing. But it was his view. And it was okay.

And I wasn't going to do this craven apology. And to be honest, I actually feel like Alex Armstrong should have grown some balls and just said no, because I am informed he was not happy about having to do this. But then he did the thing that really made me despair. He came out on air. He's never spoken about being gay before,

but with his back against the wall, knowing that he's probably going to lose his job because of these complaints unless he does it, he went on air and he revealed that he was gay, while ironically claiming that it's not relevant to his job and not something he discusses. So why are you doing it now, Mr. Armstrong? As many of you already know,

I am openly gay. I very, very rarely talk about it or discuss my sexuality because I believe it is such a small part of my character and frankly, I don't think you, the British public, care about it or have any interest in who I'm attracted to, nor does being gay have any bearing on my politics and nor should it ever. I maintain that pride is not suitable for children.

adult material and products, even on so-called family day. I have witnessed it myself. There's a lot of alcohol, scatly dressed individuals, and political propaganda, all things I don't believe are suitable for children. Okay, fine, fine. So you're allowed to have that view. Personally, I agree with that view. I think it's irrelevant that I'm a gay man, but I do agree with that view. But you know, Alex, there's a whole load of people who think that view is unpalatable, who think that view should not be allowed to be broadcast, who think you should be cancelled in the same way that you have just cancelled Caroline Farrow for having her view.

And this is the problem when the free speech channel starts to shut down free speech. And I stress again, it's why I was prepared to lose my job not to apologise to Lawrence Foxwindhold to do so through my ear that fateful night. And it mattered because I knew that this is what was going to happen. And it got worse. it wasn't over. The humiliation ritual continued. Wait for it for another eight minutes. Because Alex Armstrong was then forced to interview a trans to give a lecture on, I mean, by the way, I'm assuming there are trans. Maybe I'm wrong.

You be the judge. Watch. However, in the spirit of continuing free speech and open debates on this show and on this channel, I'm welcoming the founder of translucent, Steph Richards, to discuss this further with me. Steph, thanks for coming on this show tonight to talk about this very interesting topic. Let's start with comments made by guests last weekend. The suggested pride is not about gay rights, but has become a celebration of paedophilia. What do you make of that statement?

Well, as a gay man, you will know what pride is about Alex. Oh, okay, so Alex Armstrong now has to put up with a trans person to have. telling him as a gay man what Pride is about. And he just politely nodded along to it all, because he had to. As you will be aware, pride started with Stonewall back in 1969 at Stonewall Inn. After many, what we would now call was queer people. I appreciate sometimes people get offended by that word.

But basically, LGBTQIA people... Okay. Okay, Leo curse. Look, this one's personal to me. You can understand why you are contributed to GB News. I want you to have a different opinion on this. Okay. And you also have your own, like, fascinating thing with all of this. Because of course, you were cancelled. Weren't you for being transphobic? Even though the material that you were writing was with a trans woman who you were dating. So you get sort of what this is all about. But wasn't there just a something a bit humiliation ritual about all of that, Leo.

Yeah, and it felt, I mean, I can understand why they've got to do it because, you know, it's an off-com regulated channel, so, you know, on off-com are watching them like a hawk at the moment, as we've been talking about. And this has been something, I know that another presenter was, there was a big Ferroian, pink news and all the other, all the other media outlets. about, you know, related comments linking, you know, the transgender community to, to paedophilia. Although, I mean, I'd say, why do so many drag queens go into schools to read stories? You know, why are they even going in? Why do people take their kids to pride?

I think, you know, and by the way, we do just have an example, by the way, of two gay men being jailed for the murder of the young baby that they adopted and also sexually abused. So it's like to say that it's not an issue at all. Now, am I saying, all gay men are paedophiles? Of course I'm not. But to not even be able to say that there are some. Well, isn't that just like the whole issue with where we got to with the trans thing in the first place where we just couldn't state facts because we were being offensive for staining facts?

Yeah, and it's interesting how each side is treated. So, you know, if somebody of a political party on the right, attracts some weird, you know, bed set cranks, some Nazis or whatever. That political party is instantly condemned as, you know, being pro-Nazi or containing Nazis. But if, you know, minor attracted people or whoever it is, or the P-I.E., the pedophile information exchange or whatever it was, that 70s group that was affiliated to the Labour Party, if that latches itself on to a movement like pride or the Labour Party, you know, any mention that is condemned as being homophobic or transphobic. It's just interesting to see how the different sides are treated.

I mean, I think, you know, pride has got too big and it's sucked in all these different things like asexuals, asexuals, which is an asexual is somebody who doesn't have sex, not because they're married, because they've chosen not to have sex. And that's the opposite of what should be happening at Pride. That's like having a sport at the Olympics called not playing any sport whatsoever. So, you know, I think Pride with the number of letters in the LGBTQMSN plus plus QRS-TUV acronym, I think it's dragged in too many disparate things. I've got nothing to do with being gay whatsoever.

But the problem for me, and look, as I say, please do stand up for. him. But like, why could Alex Armstrong not have said, well, actually, no, you're a trans person. You don't speak for me as a gay man. I don't view myself as being part of the LGBT alphabet suit, which I'm presuming, by the way, is his personal view, just like it's my view. But he couldn't say that. He was sort of allowing this trans person to speak for him. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting that that's, you know, the trans women came on and tried to put work. words into his mouth. Luckily, it's just words. But, you know, I think it's, I think it's interesting. But I think when you're under that level of scrutiny from the left, when, you know, your broadcasting

license is at risk, you know, I think you're going to be as defensible as possible and, you know, make sure you don't leave any box on that form unticked and you're going to do everything you can to satisfy offcom. And that's a business decision as well. And Leo, I know some people are going to I think I'm being very mean to Alex Armstrong here. And I'm prepared to take that because fundamentally there was a reason why I didn't apologize on air for Lawrence Fox because I knew it's like, where does it end? Where does it end? How?

Because you know what, Leo, like, do you remember when this morning used to actually do really great debates between people like Katie Hopkins, right? And they were very, very controversial debates. like there was once Katie Hopkins versus the late Peach's Galdoff, you know, about particular types of parenting. And there was never a view that like Phillips Schofield and Holly Willoughby had to keep on apologising for the views of Katie Hopkins and that they in some way signed up to the political philosophy of Katie Hopkins because they happened to be interviewing her. And so for me, that was a really, like it was a line I never wanted to cross at GB News because

it's like, no, we're a free. speech channel, we're going to have some guests on who I agree with, some guests on who I disagree with. At times, I'm going to have a proper Barney with them, like in debates with Benjamin Butterworth or whatever it was. At times, I'm just going to let them speak. But because they're speaking, it's not me saying, I agree with everything they say, or the channel agrees with everything they say, but where do they draw the line? Because it's like, okay, in the case of Caroline Farrow, they're saying, we don't agree with you. Do you see what I mean?

But presumably they also don't agree with the crazy leftists who they have on all the time. So that's why for me, I was never prepared to cross that line. And I think in hindsight it was the right decision. I'm not being horrible to Alex Armstrong. I actually felt sorry for him. That was an eight minute on air humiliation.

Well, 11 minutes actually when you add up the apology in the interview. It was like a humiliation ritual. And he's a guy who has to make a living, who has to keep his job. And it really was a case of you've got to do that or you're out. And I don't feel good for him about that. And Leo, I will also say, you know, I love you on GB News and I hope you keep continuing on GB News. This is not about me saying, oh, everyone, you know, needs to walk away.

But at some point, there has to be a line. And I think, you know, it was very sad for me to see the bosses actually put Alex Armstrong through that. Just face down the leftist and see what offcom do. But I know, I know what you're going to say they're worried about the channel being shut down and so there's all of that. But anyway, it wasn't pretty to watch. But Leo Curse, thank you so much. Do make sure you subscribe to Leo Curse's brilliant independent YouTube channel where he has absolutely no regulation whatsoever. For now, at least, you can find him at Leo Curse on YouTube. Thank you so much for being here today. Leo, we will speak very, very soon. But of course, it is a Friday so before.

we go. We're going to reveal the worst Britain in the world this week. It's when we put your union jackassers head to head from across the week. And on Monday, it was Adam Bolton. Tuesday, Kathy Newman, Wednesday, Lucy Powell, all of course people connected to the terrible assassination of Anne Wittickham. Tony Locke 499 says that Newman dog really has a very smug look. Oh, if I was on Jimmy News, I just have to apologize now and say that's terrible. What Tony's just said in this case, I can just say Tony's got his free speech. If he wants to call Kathy Newman a dog, he's allowed on this show. Tommy Smith, when is Kathy Newman anything other than awful? Good question. Karen Hill, given that they are all vile. I'm going to go for Lucy Powell. Adam Lynch says Sly in Times radio need to sack

Adam Bolton for sure. Sam J. Linlman says, I think speculation on the sex life of a murdered woman is not very tasteful. So Adam Bolton. And Malley 903-7 says, I'll go for the buffoon from Sky. God bless you wid. And indeed, and the results are now in. In third position, with 20% of the vote. It's Lucy Powell, the runner up with 25% of the vote, Kathy Newman. But the worst Britain in the world this week for his horrible obituary about Anne Whittaker with 55% of the vote. It is Adam Bolton. I do just want to remind everyone yet again, though, because I am consistent on this. Anne Wittickham was a free speech woman. She would not have wanted Adam Bolton to lose his job. Okay? She may have been offended.

She would not have wanted him to lose his job. Adam Bolton, of course, wanted the whole of G. G.B. News shut down because of the whole Lawrence Fox thing. but let's be better than them. We're going to cross over to Substack now. For the uncanceled off show, Robert Jobson, the veteran royal reporter is standing by because there's so much big royal news today, but I will be back with you live at 5pm UK time

on Monday, mid-east and 9-N-Pacific. Monday is a very big day because we get a new Prime Minister and we're going to find out what terrible cabinet, Andy Burnham, is going to be ushering in. So do make sure you are with us. It is going to be a very, very dramatic show

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