Dan Wootton Outspoken - SHARIA BRITAIN ERUPTS OVER IMMIGRATION AS DONALD TRUMP CONFIRMS ISLAMIST TAKEOVER UNDERWAY

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

BREAKING TODAY: Britain erupts over the hard left destruction of the United Kingdom, with an uprising in Crowborough and clashes in Birmingham, as the family of a hotel worker killed by a migrant join...s the fight on the streets. The anger erupted after Donald Trump was prepared to say what our corrupted politicians are not: It’s a fact that Sharia Law is already destroying the Disunited Kingdom. And yet we’re meant to trust Shabana Mahmood on immigration who wants to become the UK’s first Islamist Prime Minister. But the hard left are losing the argument as they reach for the most desperate of slurs. In his Digest Dan reveals why we will no longer believe the lies of the left as we see the destruction of our country around us every day. Then the Superstar Panel are here: The honorary president of UKIP and a former Tory minister Neil Hamilton and broadcaster extraordinaire Christine Hamilton. PLUS: Mike Graham makes a major announcement as the backlash against his Talk TV sacking grows, with its flagship show Plank of the Week tanking without him. AND: The BBC’s deranged war on Donald Trump continues as a new book confirms Panorama and the Martin Bashir scandal led to the death of Princess Diana. We’ll analyse the bombshell new findings. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Desperately ambitious Meghan Markle infuriates Netflix chiefs with her transparent bid to cosy up to Jeff Bezos. We’ll have all the latest as we team up with the Royal News Network. To watch the Uncancelled After Show for exclusive extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Boarding for Flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes. Ugh, what? Sounds like Ojo time. Play Ojo? Great idea. Feel the fun with all the latest slots in live casino games and with no wagering requirements. What you win is yours to keep groovy. Hey, I won!
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Starting point is 00:01:01 Move back. Bristol patriots say whose street, our streets. The communists, every time the smoking gun is the communist left. People want to stand here and chant, let them stay. Immigration should be legal. We should know who is coming into our country. Who is walking our street?
Starting point is 00:01:27 The anger erupted after, Donald Trump was prepared to say what our corrupted politicians are not. It's a fact that Sharia law is already destroying the disunited kingdom. He's a terrible mayor. And look at the crime you have in London. My mother loved London. She loved that city. She'd always talk about, that was a different London than you have today. You have Sharia law where they don't even want to obey the laws of your country. We're meant to trust this woman who wants to become the UK's first Islam as Prime Minister.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I'll know that if the job came free, he'd probably have a tilt at it, would you? Look, I don't indulge in this kind of, you know, future hypotheticals and all this ridiculous chitter-chatter. It's not what I'm about. And Shabana Mahmoud is just tampering with the edges of asylum policy. What this country needs is a change of government and it needs it right about now. But the hard left are losing the argument as they reach forward. the most desperate of slurs. Told by people in New York and Chicago
Starting point is 00:02:35 that London is a scary and dangerous place and as an elected politician in Britain, not actually pushing back and explaining, that's Lord Hawhor territory. A mother whose son was mugged at knife point, a former senior crown prosecutor, being compared to a Nazi sympathiser
Starting point is 00:02:54 for telling the truth. Well, I tell you what, James. If you're trying to bully me into silence, That's not going to work. Why, we will no longer believe the lies of the left as we see the destruction of our country around us every day in my digest next. Then, my superstar panel here, the honorary president of UKIP and a former Tory minister, Neil Hamilton,
Starting point is 00:03:19 and broadcaster extraordinaire Christine Hamilton, who just so happens to be his wife as well. Also coming up on the show today, Mike Graham makes a major announcement as the backlash against his talk TV sacking grows with its flagship show Plank of the Wink tanking without him. The BBC's deranged war on Donald Trump continues and in disastrous timing for the British Bashing Corporation, as I call it. A new book confirms what I have long thought. Panorama and the Martin Beshear scandal led to the death of Princess Diana. We will analyse the bombshell new findings. Then in the uncanceled aftershow.
Starting point is 00:03:58 on Substack, desperately ambitious Megan Markle and furriates Netflix chiefs with her transparent bid to cozy up to Jeff Bezos. I wonder how Lauren Sanchez feels about that. We'll have all the latest as we team up with the Royal News Network. And of course, before the end of the show today, we will also award the first greatest Britain
Starting point is 00:04:16 and uni in Jackass of the week. You choose the worst Britain in the world right now from these nominees. Get voting on the YouTube live chat. But here are the nominations today. Angela Rainer. nominated by its back again, who has popped up wanting to be the PM, even though she still hasn't paid the £40,000 to HMRC.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Get in the bin. Narenda Kaur nominated by Kaz Quinn for cosying up to the Green Party. The Grift Don't Stop. And Rachel Reeves, nominated by Warning Shot, who says she's very good at adding black holes to the ones they inherited with more to come. So we will be announcing the brand new Greatest Britain and Union Jackass at the end of the show. A programming note for you as well. Tomorrow, Mike Graham speaks out for the first time live right here on Outspoken.
Starting point is 00:05:12 We will be sitting face to face in the outspoken studio. Nothing is off limits. This is a no-holds-barred conversation the first time Mike Graham has spoken since that. scandal that saw him removed from Talk TV. You can go right now and schedule that live show. Click on Watch later and make sure that you are with us at 5pm tomorrow because trust me, it is going to be blockbuster. But now, let's go. The mainstream media and corrupt British Bashing Corporation are refusing to reveal the real rage throughout the disunited kingdom. In fact, they are ignoring it.
Starting point is 00:06:01 They are ignoring it as mass immigration destroys our biggest cities and now small towns too. They are ignoring it as the invasion of illegals puts all our safety at threat and they are ignoring it as sharia law is introduced through the back door. Indeed, it is only the American president rather than our own politicians who is brave enough to admit what is really going on. So in Krober this weekend, residents chanted Stama out as thousands upon thousands attended a protest against plans to house 600 loan male asylum seekers, or in my words, illegals, at an army camp on the edge of their town watch. and I feel like this is the way that we're at traffic. Three,
Starting point is 00:06:58 three, three, one one, one, get out, one, down a house,
Starting point is 00:07:08 three, one, two, two, three, one, man, one,
Starting point is 00:07:17 one, down, That's absolutely horrendous. We're all down right out. Three one. We're going to get around. It's absolutely horrendous, horrendous for the people of Krobras in so many ways. Panic alarms installed in their homes, concerns about being able to get a GP appointment.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And I look at these crowds and I think these are true patriots who know what is coming. and I am afraid to say it is just the beginning of what is coming. Pink Ladies Leader Olameney Hain posted in support writing, Wow, that's a lot of far-right racists in one town. Maybe they just don't want 600 illegal migrant men as neighbours. Maybe they want to be consulted. Maybe they want their children and women safe. We stand with Crobra.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Then in Bristol, as Britain erupted, once again, there was two tear policing on full display. as hard left Antifa thugs were allowed to get away with being violent and masked watch. All right, okay, okay. Who protects the racist? Police protect the racist. Who protects the racist? Who protects the racist? Who protects the racist? I do my friend. Who are you? Who are you? Who are Bristol?
Starting point is 00:08:58 Who are you? Stay now, Tyone. Bye. What's now? What's good? What the fuck? Dickin. I'm not getting him.
Starting point is 00:09:09 I'm not getting him. He'll get him. He's a fucking rush. He's a part of you, kid. We are live and direct outside of Bristol, in which case we have a bunch of valed-up Antifa marching down the street in response to an anti-migration demo outside an asylum seeker hotel. And as you can tell, you know, the police are all the way down there. It's quite gruesome. It's always been violent with Antifa in Bristol.
Starting point is 00:09:50 streets, the communists, every time the smoking gun is the communist left, the extreme left in Britain. These people are terrorists. They want open borders. And the police are put in the middle every time. Together we are stronger. Bristol Patriots says no surrender, no diplomacy and no surrender. We want these people gone. They are domestic terrorists who have subversive intent. Outside the MacHour Hotel, where fighting age males, undocumented men are being harboured at our expense. It is time to begin mass deportations of the terrorists in Britain. And what the MSM and our politicians, Nick Tenconi of UKIP aside, so often forget, is the tragic human stories behind this anti-immigration uprising.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Like Riannon White, murdered by this illegal. scumbag, who as Tommy Robinson wrote, saw her brave sister speak out as concerned families protested in Wolverhampton about the invasion of the UK. Riannon, he reminded us, was stabbed 23 times by a Sudanese invader. The far left turned up to scream refugees welcome over the speeches from the family. Watch. my sister did not deserve to die brianan's now six-year-old son he knows what happened to his mother people want to stand here and chant let them stay immigration should be legal we should know who is coming into our country who is blocking our streets but instead no the government
Starting point is 00:11:42 want to allow these people into our country have no idea what crimes they've committed in other countries. Our government have a lot to answer to. Immigration is done correctly and we have amazing doctors, nurses, teachers. This needs to end in Rianan's name and in every other woman who is affected by this and her son who has to grow up without a mother. This ends now. We make a change now! Can I dash out?
Starting point is 00:12:20 I work in a microcoteau. Like a lot of people do, and she'll miss out. He stabbed 23 times, she's in a fucking head, but he for sure he did the three phone and killed her. Fucking hell man.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And he's fucking sitting down. And he's like here. He's in the country, 11 weeks prior, on her dingin. 11 weeks. 27 weeks. These four pairs, hours, 20 twins, how are you? 23 stab wounds.
Starting point is 00:12:49 To their breast and a half in south defence. And the right one that killed done with the face of the poor of the brain. And these bastards are standing in defending her. What about Cates for them at me? Hello, hello. Hello, hello. She was murdered. Show your face.
Starting point is 00:13:06 They're behind your side. Show your face. And the sister was murdered. Her sister was murdered. Murdered. Murder. It could happen to any of you lot. No, well, my.
Starting point is 00:13:19 God bless you, Alexandra White. And just imagine protesting against a woman like that whose sister, let me remind you there she is, let's all repent. her name Riannon White. Riannon White fatally stabbed after 23 blows to her head from a screwdriver by this
Starting point is 00:13:45 cretan dang magic from Sudan who had been here for 11 weeks 11 weeks illegally in the country before he took this woman's life. And in the midst of this genuine hell we're now living, the regime media and Labour are telling us that we're meant to trust the woman who wants to become the UK's first Islamist Prime Minister to solve the problem. Yes, that is right, Shabana Mahmoud, Labour's Home Secretary who has openly said Islam drives every decision that she makes in her life.
Starting point is 00:14:23 We're meant to believe that she's going to shut our borders, all while she is angling to replace slippery Stama and become Britain's first Muslim Prime Minister. And your colleague, Wes Streeting, had to deny this week that he was plotting any kind of leadership attempt. But it is, you know, it's well known that if the job came free, he'd probably have a tilt at it, would you? Look, I don't indulge in this kind of, you know, future hypotheticals and all this ridiculous chitter-chatter. This is a valid question because Kirstarmer's leadership is questioned by many of your colleagues. No, it's not only secure, but he has the full support of all. of his cabinet. He is our Prime Minister. He led us to a historic general election win at a time
Starting point is 00:15:08 when people thought we would not form another government for at least a generation or more. That was only a year and a half ago. I know that things have been difficult. Government is always difficult. There are always challenges. The most important thing is Kirstama is our Prime Minister. We won a general election. We've been granted a privilege and precious time to set the direction for our country. All of us have to make sure that we do not waste a single second of that time. And the elite class, by the way, very much on board with the idea of Shabana Mahmood, Prime Minister, Kamal Ahmed, writing in the telegraph, yes, the telegraph, the right-wing telegraph today, that Shabana Mahmood would make a better Prime Minister than Kirstama as she is
Starting point is 00:15:48 one of the few rays of sunshine in an otherwise bleak landscape. That's suicidal empathy right there, folks, but Katie Hopkins is of course not being suckered. I was in Chicago and New York on holiday as my husband's American, and so many people were like, oh my God, we've heard about what's going on in the UK, are you
Starting point is 00:16:11 guys okay? And instead of saying well, hello, a person from Chicago, let's sit down and compare statistics, shall we? What are we going to start? The good people of Kroberra out protesting against 600 illegals, the rubber dinghy massive brigade, being dumped in their little town in a military barracks.
Starting point is 00:16:30 The thing is, many of these people in Kroberra moved out of London to escape multiculturalism and now finds multiculturalism being dumped on their doorstep. The government doesn't care. All it wants to do is get rid of the line item that's labelled hotel costs for illegals. And Shabana Mahmoud is just tampering with the edges of asylum policy. What this country needs is a change of government and it needs it right about now. but what is most shocking is that those on the left will literally now lie to our faces
Starting point is 00:17:02 about the fact that crime is soaring and we are now unsafe on the streets of our biggest cities thanks to this invasion, as Wayne Broadhurst found out in the past few weeks as he was stabbed to death on camera in London by an Afghan illegal. As the City Hall Conservatives put it, under Sidique Khan, crime has soared
Starting point is 00:17:23 and all the long-term data shows it, yet still when. question the mayor tries to cherry pick the facts and he did watch this sit there with a straight face and say crime is down since you became mayor in 2016 knife crime has gone up by 27 percent violence against the person has increased by 26 percent robbery has increased by 57 percent theft has increased by 37 percent shoplifting has increased by 109 percent Sexual offences have increased by 64%. All crime since you, Sadiq Khan, became Mayor of London, have increased by 26%.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Don't Londoners deserve the truth about the state of crime in the capital from you? You do with the list that was read out, theft from motor vehicle down by 18%? Over what date range? Over what date range? Over what date range? Over what date range? Since you became Mayor of London? Over what date range? Over the last nine years. Not the last month, the last nine years. I know you don't like the truth,
Starting point is 00:18:34 but apologise to Londoners over your tenure that you have allowed crime to skyrocket. But this type of gaslighting is being taken up by Khan's close friends in the MSM. Notably, the truly despicable James O'Brien, who has compared Reform UK's rising star, Leila Cunningham to Lord Ho-ho, a Nazi sympathiser who was hanged for treason. She says, why?
Starting point is 00:19:06 For people agreeing? With people I met in NYC that London is dangerous? And she said, with just two hours on air, LBC chose this moment to clip and post. They have a clear agenda. Now, I want you to watch this pitiful attack from James O'Brien and Lela I was in Chicago and New York on holiday as my husband's American and so many people were like,
Starting point is 00:19:38 oh my God, we've heard about what's going on in the UK, are you guys okay? And instead of saying, well, hello, person from Chicago, let's sit down and compare statistics, shall we? What are we going to start with? School shootings or violent crime on the streets? Or shall we start with a murder rate? Oh, hello, New Yorker, who believes that London is unsafe.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Shall we start with the statistics, the facts, the evidence and the detail, or shall we go onto your social media account and believe all the bills that has been put there by liars like me? That idea of being told by people in New York and Chicago that London is a scary and dangerous place and as an elected politician in Britain, not actually pushing back and explaining, that's Lord Hawaer Territory.
Starting point is 00:20:21 James O'Brien crossed the line today. He compared me to Lord Ha Ha ha, who as a Nazi sympathizer, hung in this country for treason. And the reason why he compared me to him was because I had the audacity to agree with people in New York and Chicago who said that they were scared to come to London because it was more dangerous. Imagine that's a mother whose son was mugged at knife point,
Starting point is 00:20:45 a former senior crown prosecutor being compared to a Nazi sympathizer for telling the truth. Well, I tell you what, James, if you're trying to bully me into silence, that's not going to work. I will never, ever stay silent. I will always defend the victims of crime in this city, the ones that you and your best pal, Sadiq can't try and cover up. Because Londoners know the truth. They know that we have a knife crime epidemic, a rape epidemic, a robbery epidemic. And the fact that you sit in your ivory tower and pretend it's not happening is an insult to all those victims and all Londoners.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Good on, Laila. But the problem is, there are lefty lunatics all over the place trying to pretend otherwise like Stella Creasy, a Labour madwoman who was trying to convince us. London is so safe. It's so safe that she posted thank you to some corporate for the joy of finding your flash mob tonight and joining in. The more they hate us, the more we need to take to the streets to show the joy that can be found here. Sorry to disappoint you, Rupert Lowe, London isn't broken. it's bouncing, prompting Rupert to respond, you're like that cartoon dog sitting in the
Starting point is 00:21:57 burning building. It's pretty tragic, isn't it, that we rely on Donald Trump, a foreign leader, a great foreign leader in my opinion, but still a foreign leader to tell the truth about the perilous reality of what we are facing with Sharia law. Your mayor is a disaster. I don't know him. I don't even know where to look. If you put him there, I wouldn't even know who he was. I can tell you he is a disaster.
Starting point is 00:22:29 He's a nasty person. And he's letting crime go rape. You have areas in London, and you have this in Paris too, where the police don't even want to go anywhere near those areas. You have Sharia law where they don't even want to obey the laws of, you know, your country or France or other countries. and you have much worse conditions than even that. It's crazy what's gone on with Europe.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And, you know, I'll do this interview. I hope it's not too controversial because, to be honest with you, it's just fact. It's not like there should be no controversy and they have to do something. Exactly. It's not controversial because it is a fact. We have Sharia law.
Starting point is 00:23:14 It is starting to destroy this country and people like Sadiq Khan are lying to you. Well, Trump got him right as well. I'm pretty much on first name terms with the guys on the corner of my street. And they're so friendly and you see them putting shopping in the car of old women. And it counters this idea that they're an aggressive presence on the street. They're not. We've got such a crime problem in London. And I wonder whether Sadr Khan should do something similar. He's a terrible, terrible mayor. And as an example, you know, I was a high-ranking officer sort of
Starting point is 00:23:49 of always or a president, even as a civilian. You know, I was a respected person. He treated me very badly. I said, who is that guy? He's a terrible mayor. And look at the crime you have in London. My mother loved London. She loved that city.
Starting point is 00:24:08 She'd always talk about that was a different London than you have today. Today you have people being stabbed in the ass or worse. You are. You absolutely are. been stabbed in the ass or worse on a daily basis. As Kahn's independent rival at the next election, Aunt Middleton raged, sack him. It really is that simple. Consecative failure of one's job with zero accountability and progression. At least he's been consistent year after year it being the worst London mayor ever. Roll on 2028. But in his Gb News interview with my friend
Starting point is 00:24:46 B. F. Turner, who I think did a great job, actually, because she didn't try and do gotcha with Trump. She didn't try and force him into areas where he wasn't prepared to go. It was a really fascinating conversation. And without ever naming our prime minister, he quite rightly threw Slippery Stama under the bus on immigration watch. I'm so sad to see what happened in Europe with the immigration I think above all else the immigration but the bad taxing policies
Starting point is 00:25:21 when you look at Europe is not the same place I can't say every place but pretty much almost every place or a couple of places and I won't even get into that because those are the people the leaders that aren't liked by the other European leaders but what's happened
Starting point is 00:25:40 is so sad to Europe and I think probably you have the same problem that we do with the fake news you know if you don't get the news out and properly it's never going to change but Europe I love Europe hey I'm originally from Scotland yeah
Starting point is 00:25:56 and between Scotland and Germany a German father and Scottish mother and a great mother by the way I have to tell you a great father great mother so I have a little prejudice toward Europe and those two places, but it's so sad to see what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:26:13 It is. It is tragic. It is devastating. And I thank you, Donald Trump, for being prepared to state those facts. So while our politicians and our regime media might lie to us every day because of people like Trump, because of shows like this, the British public are waking up as the Green Party deputy leader Rachel Millward discovered after being blasted by locals for lying that illegal migrants are actually doctors and engineers. Watch. My second question is actually directly to you, Rachel.
Starting point is 00:26:55 It does actually go to you as well, James. You did a video the other day, Rachel, saying that all of these people, you know, doctors and engineers and surgeons that are coming here and we should give them the right to work. Now, firstly, engineers, doctors and surgeons do not come from France on a dinghy
Starting point is 00:27:14 and throw their medical certificate overboard. It's very clear to me that you really don't understand the small boat crisis. So therefore, I'm going to say, why don't you resign both of you and make way for someone Who understands the crisis? It's not a joke, Rachel, I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:27:49 You do not have the capabilities to do this. You don't understand the small boat crisis. Step down both of you and let someone else take lead and actually get us what we need and represent this community because you don't. Amen. We are waking up. We're mad as hell and we're just not going to take it anymore. Now, the superstar panel.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Christine and Neil Hamilton with me. Neil, how refreshing was it to see Donald Trump actually admit what we all know and say, quite simply, this is a fact, it's not even a controversial statement anymore. Sharia law has been introduced into the UK through the back door. And actually, it is part of the destruction of our... formerly great country? Well, this is absolutely right, that what we're seeing before our eyes
Starting point is 00:28:41 and have been for many decades now is a cultural displacement in this country. You know, we are no longer the cohesive country that we used to be. Everybody identified with the United Kingdom, whatever part of it they lived in. Now we have, of course, throughout the great cities of England,
Starting point is 00:29:03 in particular, ethnic minority populations, large proportions of which don't feel their principal loyalty to the United Kingdom, but to their racial group, to their religion, to the countries from which they or their immediate ancestors came. And this is a very, very dangerous situation that we're in. And we see in the protests which are taking place spontaneously up and down the country, the British public at long last, and I've been warning about this for 50 years or more, waking up to the reality of what life is going to be like in a country there is no longer at peace with itself.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I won't condemn people who are demonstrating on the streets that the complete deafness of the political class in this country to represent their interests, that wonderful clip that we've just seen a minute ago of members of Parliament being taken to task for the lies that they've told to the electorate. All the mainstream parties have behaved in exactly the same way. The bulk of the recent increase in immigrant population
Starting point is 00:30:02 has taken place under nominally conservative governments. And, of course, it was the Blair government that deliberately opened the floodgates to mass migration in order to, as they put it, to undermine the arguments of the right by multiculturalism and to render their arguments redundant. So, you know, this is a deliberate exercise on the part of the Labour Party to undermine the cohesiveness of this country and actually to destroy what a nation ought to be,
Starting point is 00:30:30 something which is at ease with itself and which is cohesive. Absolutely. And Christine, we have this gaslighting going on. You know, Sadiq Khan. Oh, it's so safe. You know, it's so safe. Okay, go and tell that to Rianan White's sister, Alexandra White, who is now on the streets, Christine.
Starting point is 00:30:53 And God bless that woman. Thank God she is. I wish, and I understand why some families can't do it. It's just too difficult, but thank God she is because her sister, you know, fatally stabbed 23 times in their hair, Christine, by a dude from Sudan who was hair illegally after just 11 weeks. The same thing happened to Wayne Broadhurst in West London just a couple of weeks ago. So to Sadiq Khan, I say F you and your statistics. So you know, Christine, most people don't even report to the Metropolitan Police any.
Starting point is 00:31:30 when they're mugged or when they're attacked. So the statistics are a joke. We know what is happening. We know we are unsafe. I don't feel safe on the streets of Sadiq Khan's London anymore, Christy. That's just a fact. No, I don't know why I do your show, Dan, because every time I get so depressed.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Because you love me. Well, it must be something like that because it depresses me so much. I mean, for the last, what, 20, 25 minutes. you have been confirming what I know, it's not exactly news, but actually to have it all spelled out like that, and to see those seeds, those masked men with masks up to here and hoodies down to here, on our streets, on British streets, I mean, it is just mind-boggling.
Starting point is 00:32:16 And for Sadiqa, who cares, frankly, whether statistics of crime in London or New York are higher? What we care about is the statistics in London. and that member of the London Assembly read them all out. That's what matters to British people, not whether there are more stabbings in London or you know. That is irrelevant to most of us. We care what happens in our capital city.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Well, it used to be our capital city, but I mean, frankly, it isn't anymore. I mean, there's a horrifying statistic. There's a horrifying statistic. I find it horrifying. Anybody born today, when they're 25, a white Brit born today, by the time they're 25,
Starting point is 00:32:54 they'll be in a minority in their own country. They will be in a country that doesn't share the same values, that doesn't share the same cultural cohesion. I mean, it's unbelievable. Somebody mentioned, I can't remember who I might have been Katie Hopkins, the word domestic terrorists. That is what we've got. We've got domestic terrorists on our streets.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I think it was Nick Tingconi, the leader of UK. I mean, we know why Sadiq Khan keeps getting elected, because he keeps left, you know, his people are now taking over London. Well, it's sectarian politics, isn't it? But, Neil, that's what... Sorry, Christine, finish your point. No, I just said, I mean, I think the statistic is that over 50% of Londoners were not even born in this country. Correct.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I mean, dear God, it's our capital city. And, Neil, then you get to the abuse, really, of Leila Cunningham by James O'Brien, who's Sadiq Khan's mate. Now, there's so many ironies here, Neil, because Leila Cunningham is a Muslim, right? But because she's pointed out some of the realities about London, James O'Brien literally compares her to a Nazi. Yeah. Well, James O'Brien is thoroughly anti-British. He hates our country and its history and heritage. He's always talking us down. He wants to destroy our country, in effect. He wants to create this multicultural melting pot where nobody feels an affinity actually with anybody else. that's an absolutely catastrophic future that is in prospect
Starting point is 00:34:31 if we carry on in the way that we are. You know, Christine was talking about more than half of people living in London today weren't actually born in the UK. Obviously, that includes people like you, Dan, which we're quite happy to have here. But a lot of people who we don't want. Well, I'm a British citizen. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:47 But they don't share the cultural ideas that we all share. Well, absolutely. And this is what drives me insane, right, because it isn't about simply, Oh, you can be born here and you're British, right? So I think my story is really important in all of this. So my mom, you know, born in Essex to a good working class Essex family. My dad, born on a British Army base in Malta to a family from South Shields, who were all minors,
Starting point is 00:35:19 emigrate to New Zealand as 10 pound pom. So I'm born to British parents in New Zealand. But I am British. Do you see what I mean? I am British. Like, I am ethnically British and I am also legally British ever since I was born. And that's why this idea that someone like Axel Rudacabana is British because he happened to be born here or is ethnically English because he had happened to be born here as for the birds. Do you see what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:53 And so I actually think my story is really important in all of this because. where you are, you know the point I'm making, Neil. Yeah. Well, Dan. All I was going to say was that Dan, yes, of course you're 100%, well, not 100% British, but you are, you feel British. You share British values. You share British.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Yeah, well, I am ethnically British. All of, all of my roots are English, you know. That's the difference. And the fact that I was born in New Zealand is actually an irrelevance. And that's why, that is why, when we. we start kidding ourselves that people who hate our country and do not share our values and do not share our culture are English, simply because they're born here, we lead to this collapse in society. That is what is happening. It is the suicidal empathy collapse. And of course, there are different ways that people could and should emigrate to this country and prove. that they deserve citizenship, I'm sorry, I will die on this hill. It does not make them English.
Starting point is 00:37:05 It just doesn't. Or British, you know, Scottish, Welsh, whatever it is. Just like if I was to emigrate to Nigeria, I would never be Nigerian. Now, I might get citizenship there because I would sign up to the values that that country had if I wanted to live there. So this is madness. You know, we keep saying that these second-generation terrorists are English or British. No, they are not. And that is not racist. It is a fact. And I say this as someone who wasn't born in this country, but absolutely know that I am English through my roots, through my culture, through my heritage, and through my values, my Christian values. Breaking today, Mike Graham is about to speak out after his axing from Talk TV as that station is mired in controversy with Mike's show Plank of the Week tanking in the ratings for the first time being broadcast since he was officially dumped from the station.
Starting point is 00:38:19 As the Gryft Report posted, sorry Talk TV, but only Mike Graham can do Plank of the Week, no wonder you turned off comments and lost half your audience, I'd say if anyone was Plank of the Week, it's Talk TV. And what was interesting is that when Kevin O'Sullivan introduced this week's show, there was no mention of Mike Graham, despite the fact that previously he had admitted that he was filling in. the star host watch. Welcome to Plank of the Week. I'm Kevin O'Sullivan. I'm in for Mike Graham, and I'm surrounded
Starting point is 00:38:57 by beauty and glamour this week. Welcome to another sparkling edition of Plank of the week. I am Kevin O'Sullivan and I've got one hell of a panel for you today. So he's just been erased from history, just like I was from GB News, but the problem is the viewers, the listeners are furious. Look at this post. It would be great. This is from Reform UK grassroots, by the way. It would be great if Mike Graham's colleagues at Talk TV stood by his side and threatened to quit if he wasn't reinstated. You all know who you are. The alternative is all your viewers and listeners switch to GB News. Either way, you'll have to lose your jobs, your call. But Mike is moving on,
Starting point is 00:39:36 and he is moving on fast. Posting over the weekend, please join my new crusade for the truth and revealing this brand new video. Watch. Afternoon, I'm Mike Graham. Welcome to my new world. I just want to say a really big thanks to all of you who have signed up so quickly to my new substack and to my new YouTube channel. It's the Mike Graham Show.com. And we're going to be producing it very, very soon. So look out for all the latest news, all the latest views, all the opinions that you've been missing for about a month. I'm going to be back with you very, very shortly. And he is going to be back with a bang, because Mike Graham is already prepared to get much more political now that he is unleashed from his. his corporate shackles with the head of the pink ladies, all a mini-hane announcing that Mike this Saturday will be the star guest alongside Lucy Connolly at those major protests in Chelmsford. Mike confirmed I'll be joining the pink ladies next Saturday protecting women and girls in Britain. But before that, I am delighted to announce today that Mike will be sitting down with me,
Starting point is 00:40:49 live at 5pm tomorrow. That is Tuesday in my interview studio to give his first interview since being sacked by talk. Mike has agreed that no subject is going to be off limits. So like we do in the independent media, this will be a respectful but a no holds barred conversation where Mike will reveal everything. That has happened since he made that post or he claims didn't make that post on Facebook, which was branded racism and led to his defenestration from Talk TV. To my superstar panel now, Neil Hamilton and Christine Hamilton. Christine, you have been very publicly supportive of Mike Graham, and we shared one of your posts on X last week that made it clear that you thought this was a big mistake by Talk TV.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I certainly do, and the viewing figures have proved that I was right, so that's nice. But Talk TV have behaved in exactly the same way that G.B. News behaved with you. They didn't believe Mike. They didn't believe their employee. They decided that he was not telling the truth, and therefore he had to go. G.B. News decided that you were not, and you had to go. You were able, subsequently, to prove that G.B. News were wrong, and that you were telling the truth. All the allegations against you were withdrawn. But it was too late.
Starting point is 00:42:18 They weren't prepared to give you the benefits of the doubt and talk TV, talk radio. No, is he on talk radio as well? No, he's only on talk TV or is it the same thing? It's the same thing now. It's the same thing. It goes out on both. I hope that they are being proved wrong
Starting point is 00:42:34 because he was such a popular person. I mean, I didn't do his show very often. I did it a few times. I've met him a few times. He seems to be a thoroughly nice guy. And the alleged social media post, I just didn't recognize Mike Graham. I mean, it's just not the sort of thing you would think he would say. So I believe him that it wasn't him. But if his employees are not prepared to believe in, then frankly he's better off. And I hope that he will prove that you have that it's better off on the outside. It's not cold on the outside. It's actually a damside warmer. And he will be free like you're free. He'll be able to free to do what he likes, say what he likes. And people will, what's the word vote with their feet and their wallets.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Yeah, Neil Hamilton, it's interesting actually because I genuinely believe this will be the best thing that has happened to Mike Graham. I'm not just saying that. I genuinely believe that because there are a whole load of issues that he has clearly had to follow a corporate script. Now, even he might not acknowledge that yet, he might not talk about that yet. But I just know it's the case because you do have a group think mentality when you are part of a. a big operation like that. And let's be honest, one of the reasons he was sacked, Neil, is because of this growing wokeery
Starting point is 00:43:55 and really a civil war that had been raging between the staff of Talk TV and the staff of Talk Sport, who are really woke these days, oddly. Yeah. Well, you're absolutely right, Dan. And you may recall that at the start of your Villarola Rosa from GV News, I said exactly the same to you
Starting point is 00:44:19 that life on the outside can be very exhilarating and you may well find very quickly that you're very much better off as a result of what GB News did you and so it has proved to be I think this is very exhilarating actually that
Starting point is 00:44:34 just as in the political world individual disruptors are managing to break out of the corporate straitjacket in the media is going to be a good thing for everybody because the stranglehold of the elites,
Starting point is 00:44:53 whether they be in politics or in the corporate world, has been dramatically loosened by the freedoms which the internet gives us. And so, you know, we can't be controlled. We can't be muzzled any longer. And we've got an audience out there and they need to be represented. They need somebody to speak for them
Starting point is 00:45:11 to speak to them and speak with them. And when you're constrained by corporate, of course that doesn't happen. And so there's a kind of spontaneous uprising as a result of this where the people are fighting back. And it's a great feeling to be part of that megaphone, which you are. I think this is wonderful, actually. I'm sure Mike Graham will make us greater success of it very quickly as you've done. I think he will too. I really, really do. And I say bring it on. Christine, can we talk, please, about this very thorny issue of whether the other talk, TV presenters, his colleagues for many years, some his close friends, are being disloyal in
Starting point is 00:45:56 some way by not acknowledging Mike, by not talking about his departure. Now, you can imagine there's been such a big pushback over this over the past couple of weeks. I've had a lot of it towards me saying, well, what do you want, Dan? Do you want the station to close? Do you want me to lose my job as well, and I hear that to an extent. But obviously we had Russell Quirk, the talk presenter last week, come out and say, sorry, I've got to say something. I have to speak out. Now, we'll see if he's cancelled from the station. He is due to appear on Plank of the Week this Friday. I'm hoping they don't cancel him, because that then sends a message to others. No, it is okay to speak out. And look, I would just point to some examples from my time at GB News.
Starting point is 00:46:43 As you well know, Christine, most people really disgustingly did stay completely silent because they were too afraid to speak out. But one who didn't was Bev Turner. She was incredibly supportive of me. She spoke out both privately and publicly to defend me. Hardly affected her career, did it, Bev? She's just interviewed God damn Donald Trump in the Oval Office over the weekend. My argument would be actually the bosses respect someone who has their own view.
Starting point is 00:47:16 As long as you express that view in a respectful manner, I hardly think these people are going to be sacked for speaking up for Mike Graham or at least saying something nice about him, but maybe I'm wrong. What do you make of it? Well, I have no, I know nothing about the internal workings of talk TV. What I do know is that one or two of them are paid a fortune. One of them was GB News tried to tempt them across No names, no pack drill And they were offered the most eye-watering some
Starting point is 00:47:48 Not to leave So if they're risking their jobs They're risking a monumental amount of money But that, you know That's coward's way out, isn't it? Oh, I can't afford I might lose my job No, well actually, you know
Starting point is 00:48:01 Four marks to GB News Because it didn't hold Bev Turner back So that's a good example And people at Talk TV Perhaps ought to look at that and say, well, hang on a minute. Why can't I speak out too? If I feel, as I'm sure some of them do, they must do. I mean, the way Mike Graham was treated was appalling. I mean, he didn't have a proper trial. There was no proper investigation as far as I'm aware. It was just, oh, you've been
Starting point is 00:48:27 accused, out. So, you know, yeah, it'd be nice if one or two of them came forward. I mean, maybe they could all come forward in unison. They can't sack them all. There's unity in strength. Strength in unity, that's what I meant to say. But, you know, I don't know. It's quite hard. I'll tell you, actually, just slightly moving off that subject. Yes. What is very hard is, I mean, the people you're talking about, we're talking about, are the people at the top, the visible people, the faces. There's an awful lot of people behind the scenes, and there were at GP News who felt incredibly strongly, you know this, that you had been appallingly treated, But they obviously didn't dare speak out because they didn't dare lose their jobs.
Starting point is 00:49:08 They couldn't quite so easily hop onto something else. And by the way, I really want to stress, you know, in terms of my personal situation, while I was incredibly grateful for people who did speak out, people like you and Neil, people like Meg and Kelly, who refused to return to the station, still hasn't. To this day, people like Father Calvin Robinson, who lost their job. genuinely I never asked someone to speak out publicly and actually if they approach me I said you know I don't expect you to say anything of course I don't I don't want you to lose your job so so absolutely when it came to me that was how I felt but Neil there's something quite uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:49:47 about watching a man like Mike Graham who could have cut him open and he would have bled talk radio right that's how much he was part of this station he was offered huge money to go across to GB News, huge life-changing money, and he didn't because he had a loyalty to this station talk. Now, as it turned out, that was a mistake because they have shown no loyalty back to him. Yeah, I just don't understand the spinelessness of these corporate organisations. You know, migraine was a big part of talk TV, same as you were a big part of gb news you you both in your different ways built the audiences that made these stations what they are and i think it's extraordinary in even a commercial sense to say that all that's thrown
Starting point is 00:50:44 out of the window because of some poxy little campaign against you on some bogus excuse and to deny you you know natural justice as well in the investigation of whatever that you've been accused of doing. It doesn't seem to me to make commercial sense and certainly doesn't make moral sense. And I've seen it, of course, in politics many times. I've been the victim of it myself a long time ago. Well, indeed, I ran more recently too when I come to think of it.
Starting point is 00:51:16 But it's a natural human proclivity, I suppose, is to keep your head down. Otherwise, you might get it shot off. But there are ways in which you can express your sense. sympathy and support without being belligerent about it and yeah you know what are these free speech channels about if they're not about allowing you a certain degree of latitude to comment upon the affairs of your own station so i think it's very disappointing what we've seen with talk tv same way as i thought it was very disappointing what we've seen on gb news and respect not just of
Starting point is 00:51:51 yourself but a number of other star performers you know we saw it back with the you know Mark Stain, for example. Mark Stein, Lawrence Fox. There's been a lot of people. Quite a long time back. So, you know, what we just seen with Mike Graham isn't anything new. But you would think that people will learn a lesson by what's happening with the audience figures and the contrast, of course, with the audience figures you're now generating
Starting point is 00:52:18 as an independent producer and performer. And I'm sure Mike will be able to claim the same success as you've done with his own podcast. I think loads of people are going to say, no, we still want to wake up with Mike Graham. What I do need to say, of course, is that News UK claim that there was an investigation into Mike Graham, which they offered him multiple opportunities to cooperate with. They say he did not. So tomorrow, when I sit down face to face with Mike Graham, we're going to be live, by the way, so this will be completely unedited.
Starting point is 00:52:54 That's what we do here in the independent media. Mike will get his opportunity to respond to News UK for the first time and you will be able to watch that live at 5 o'clock UK time right here on Dan Wooden outspoken. Breaking today, the British Bashing Corporation has a death wish. This corrupted organisation and its hopeless chairperson, is fighting back against Donald Trump in a way that I think could actually put its very survival at threat. And my God, I am here for it. So you may have seen over the weekend on Air Force One, Donald Trump up to the ante with the BBC saying he will absolutely go ahead with his legal action after they refused to settle for a small figure. So now he's going for
Starting point is 00:53:55 up to $5 billion. Watch. We'll sue them for anywhere between a billion and $5 billion, probably sometime next week. So you're ready to think... Well, I think I have to do it. I mean, they've even admitted that they cheated.
Starting point is 00:54:14 I mean, not that they couldn't have not done that. They cheated. They changed the words coming out of my... Well, they did. And in Donald Trump's exclusive interview with Bev Turner in the Oval Office, he made it clear that this wasn't just about him and this is what I have huge respect for.
Starting point is 00:54:31 It's about what the British Bashing Corporation does to everyone on our side of the political aisle. Watch. You know, you worry about AI because things like this can happen, you know, with their different geniuses. I mean, you know, you can do things. I've seen things that are incredible.
Starting point is 00:54:52 But you can't imagine that BBC did this. somewhat crudely actually yeah you know it's done sort of crudely they'd clip together hadn't they two parts of the speech that were nearly an hour apart it's incredible um to to depict the idea that you had given this aggressive speech which led to this riot and and one making you into a bad guy and the other one was you know my my statement was a very calming statement uh it's pretty incredible i mean i just i just i couldn't believe it actually i've never seen I've been doing this for a long time. I've never seen anything like that.
Starting point is 00:55:28 That's the most egregious. I think that was worse than the Kamala thing with CBS in 60 minutes. How far will you push it? Because they haven't offered, our understanding is they've offered no money whatsoever. They've apologized in a letter. But they haven't offered you a penny in compensation. There was this figure of a billion dollars that you may be pursuing. I think I have an obligation to do it.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Look, I'm not looking to get into lawsuits. But I think I have an obligation to do it. This was so egregious. If you don't do it, you don't stop it from happening again with other people. I think you probably have an obligation. I'd like to find out why they did it, you know, so bad. Who thinks like this? And I wonder if they've done it.
Starting point is 00:56:12 We'll find this out. You know, the nice part about litigation is we'll find out how many times have they done it to other people. Maybe they did it to me quite a bit. And there's so many people when it comes to the BBC who are trying to turn this into an issue of Brits versus the rest of the world, as if we have to be proud of an institution that has shamed our country, disgraced our country for decades.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Remember, this organisation shielded our most despicable paedophile and actually ran a paedophile ring around Jimmy Saville. So I've said for a long time, if it was a private organisation, it would have been shut down a long time ago. And guess who's with me?
Starting point is 00:56:53 Liz Truss, watch this. There are lots of people in Britain who are cheering President Trump on and who want him to see the BBC because they're a huge problem. They've lied, they've cheated, they've fiddled with footage, both in the case of President Trump, but also covering up what's happening in Britain, whether it's mass migration,
Starting point is 00:57:18 whether it's our economic problems. They are always biased towards the left. And the British taxpayer has had to pay for all of this fake news. So there is a lot of excitement amongst conservatives in Britain at the moment that President Trump is actually taking the BBC on. Do you think an apology from the BBC is enough? No, I don't because they keep doing it again and again. They have painted a completely false picture of President Trump in Britain
Starting point is 00:57:49 over a number of years. They've done the same thing. about conservatives in our country. And I believe the organisation needs to be defunded. And as well as suing the BBC, I think it would be a fantastic if President Trump were to encourage stopping the British taxpayer funding.
Starting point is 00:58:12 What is fake news that is damaging Britain's reputation? It is, and they do keep on doing it again and again. Look at this. White House fury at Trump, monster jibe in Showpiece BBC lecture, with the mail reporting the rail between the BBC and Donald Trump has escalated further after it was revealed the broadcaster commissioned a fierce critic of the US president to deliver its flagship annual lecture. Dutch author, Rukta Breckman, used the high-profile events to draw parallels between Trump's America and the rise of fascism in the 1930s. as Nigel Farage said, the BBC is diseased and needs radical surgery at every level, including the removal of the licence fee.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I say just shut it down. Seriously, just shut it down altogether, especially after its completely hopeless chairman, released a new letter to staff today promising to fight the US president. Let me just read you the key line. I want to be very clear with you our position has not changed there is no basis for a defamation case
Starting point is 00:59:25 and we are determined to fight this so guess what they're following the Alistair Campbell playbook because Alistair Campbell at the weekend decided to do a little cosplay of slippery
Starting point is 00:59:38 Stama it was as cringe-worthy as you could imagine watch I work here Stama this is what I would say right now at that lectern. Very good. Maybe not that one. Maybe inside number 10.
Starting point is 00:59:52 The BBC made a big mistake. Many media organizations make big mistakes. Unlike the others, the BBC has apologised and taken responsibility, and the Director General has gone. That should be the end of the matter. The attacks upon the BBC by the Conservatives and Reform are contemptible, given the huge role the BBC plays in our national life and our global reputation. I have this evening spoken to President Trump. I have made clear in the strongest possible terms that his attacks and those of
Starting point is 01:00:33 his office and supporters upon the BBC are unacceptable. We do not want an American-style media landscape in this country. I will protect and strengthen the BBC and to that end we will invest more in the World Service and the BBC regions. Finally, my message for the BBC leadership. One, clear out the political partisans at the top, or I will do it for you. Two, start platforming the Lib Dems, the Greens and the Nationalists as often as you platform that ragbag of five MPs called Reform UK.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Three, stop pandering to a right wing that is determined to destroy you. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Oh, ho, ho, ho. Thank you. Ho, ho. From the man who should be in jail for leading the United Kingdom into an illegal war. That killed our servicemen, that killed millions of Iraqis.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I mean, Christine and Neil Hamilton, doesn't Alistair Campbell just actually reveal what this is really about at the end there? We want the BBC because we want you to stop platform. Forming Nigel Farage and Reform UK, but push the Greens and the Lib Dems. They're happy with the BBC because they know that there is a political motivation, Neil. Well, the BBC does platform the Greens and the Lib Dems. I mean, the BBC is explicitly pro-net-zero. They won't allow anybody who is against this climate alarmism to broadcast.
Starting point is 01:02:09 And you just look at the BBC website. It's full of the most amazing rubbish, which is regularly factually untrue. there are numerous complaints, but against them, that are put in by Paul Homewood, who runs a website Paul. Not a lot of people know that, which is full of brilliant people who really know what they're talking about, about climate science. But of course, the BBC marks its own homework. You can't complain to offcom about them until you complain to the BBC, and you know that's going to be a waste of time. So, I mean, if you're reduced to having Alistair Campbell as your standard bearer for truth of accuracy and impartiality, then I'm afraid you're pretty desperate, aren't you?
Starting point is 01:02:45 But I mean, what we've seen with Trump, of course, goes back a long way. I mean, it happened to me 40 years ago with a panorama program called Maggie's Militin Tendency. And then I was introduced along with another three or four conservative MPs, as we then were, as being a tightly knit conspiracy of closet Nazis trying to take over the Conservative Party, just like the militant tendency was a collection of Trotsky. It's trying to take over the Labour Party in those years. You know, what we're seeing today is nothing new. They've never learned their lesson as a result of a libel action that I took against the BBC,
Starting point is 01:03:21 which took me three years when, you know, we had almost no financial resources ourselves. The BBC even then had an income of two billion a year with which to fight us, and they threw everything they possibly could at us. But we motored on through, at the end of it, we went into court and demolished them. They sued for peace after I'd been in the witness box. for a few days. And then we got the Director General of the BBC. Then Alistair Milne sacked.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Yes, which was a big scandal. But, Christine, you actually wrote about this in your autobiography and said it was a complete hatchet job. And it was actually really devastating for you. It was horrific. I mean, Neil was a newly elected MP, elected the June before, and this was in January 1984.
Starting point is 01:04:14 And suddenly, there he was on national television. And don't forget in those days, we didn't have all the options of channels, so more people would have been watching, completely and utterly destroyed. I mean, he was portrayed, as Neil has said, as a fascist or not. I mean, don't go there, it was horrific. But what is extraordinary to us, because we were promised, of course, oh, we won't do this again, you know, this will never happen again. We have tightened up our procedures.
Starting point is 01:04:40 The tactics that they used against Neil were exactly the same. They said that X was Y. They spliced together this and called it that. It was absolutely, it was the tactics of Gerbils, frankly, is what they used. And the great difference, of course, between Neil and us in those days is that Trump has unlimited resources with which to fight the BBC. Now, whether he has a legal case or not, that is for the lawyers, because it's hugely complicated because it's two different countries
Starting point is 01:05:10 and whether he's been defamed, et cetera, et cetera. But what the BBC have to be. very aware of, if they don't make sure that they settle this and shut it down, is if Trump pursues it, they will be liable for opening up for public scrutiny all their internal emails, all their WhatsApps, all their internal memos, because that's what you have to do when you're heading towards a court case. Now, they would be very interesting indeed. So my guess is the BBC will seek some way to settle it, but I'm damned if it's going to be using my money. this may be the straw that breaks the camels back
Starting point is 01:05:47 for an awful lot of people who just say never again the license fee. Well, I hope so. I honestly hope so. I'm totally with Liz Truss on this. I'm not even with Nigel Farage where it's like, oh no, it just needs a bit of restructuring, get rid of the license fee. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:06:01 I mean, it should go. Sure, turn it into an entirely private broadcaster and if people want to pay for it that way, then fine. But this is an organisation that has been disgraced over so many years. I mean, how phenomenal, not in a good way, but how phenomenal that panorama was allowed to stay on air after what they did to Neil Hamilton. And I just repeat the point. Imagine if this had been a private enterprise, the idea that you'd still have panorama on air, operating, still screwing people over 40 years later, would just be for the birds. But it's the BBC's that they get away with murder. In some cases, quite literally.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Like in today, a bombshell new book claims that Princess Diana's death was directly caused by the BBC's Panorama program and its corrupted journalist Martin Beshear. Now, this is going to be a massive development for Prince William, who has for a long time campaigned against the British Bashing Corporation, as I can. call it as a result of the panorama interview where Diana revealed that there were three of us in this marriage. As Chris Rose posted, you're not patriotic if you don't support the BBC. Well, to secure an interview with Princess Diana, the former BBC journalist Martin this year, deceitfully used fake bank statements and concoctured stories about her staff spying on her for security. Defunding the BBC is long overdue. Now this new book, which is published later this month, Diana Rama, is going to be absolutely damning for the corporation. It is written by the former BBC journalist Andy Webb,
Starting point is 01:07:59 and it claims that it sent her life on a terribly dangerous course. Now, before I get into the new revelations from this book, I want to remind you, of the most emotional public statement that was ever made by Prince William when the Dyson report confirmed what he had known deep down in his soul for many years, watch. The employees lied and used fake documents to obtain the interview with my mother, made lurid and false claims about the royal family, which played on her fears and fueled paranoia, displayed woeful incompetence when investigating,
Starting point is 01:08:41 complaints and concerns about the program, and were evasive in their reporting to the media and covered up what they knew from their internal investigation. It is my view that the deceitful way the interview was obtained substantially influenced what my mother said. The interview was a major contribution to making my parents' relationship worse and has since hurt countless others. It brings indescribable sadness to know that the BBC's failures contributed to the significantly to her fear, paranoia and isolation that I remember from those final years with
Starting point is 01:09:17 her. But what saddens me most is that if the BBC had properly investigated the complaints and concerns first raised in 1995, my mother would have known that she had been deceived. She was failed not just by a rogue reporter, but by leaders at the BBC who looked the other way rather than asking the tough questions. And this new book, Diana Rama, has gone one step further than Prince William, claiming that that interview did directly lead to Diana's death. Let me take you through the key revelations. After the BBC's apology to President Trump for a misleading edit
Starting point is 01:09:58 of his speech on its flagship current affairs show, a new book tells the comprehensive story of another panorama scandal. In November 1995, Diana, the Princess of Wales, Wales gave a candid interview to the reporter Martin Bashir, revealing intimate details of the disintegration of her marriage to Prince Charles and casting doubt on whether he was fit to become king. An estimated 200 million people worldwide watched the program which made broadcasting history and shaped the future of the royal family. Within days, within days, allegation surfaced that Bashir had used forged bank statements to trick Diana into agreeing to the interview. Twenty-five years
Starting point is 01:10:36 later, the BBC commissioned an investigation by the former judge, Lord Dyson, which found that Bashir had won Diana's trust through deceitful behaviour, having seriously breached the BBC's editorial rules. Dyson, whose inquiry cost more than £1 million, concluded that the BBC's initial internal investigation in 1996 had been woefully ineffective, and that the corporation had covered up any wrongdoing. Many questions remained unanswered, however, not least regarding the documents from the BBC, which had mysteriously vanished. Now, 30 years after Diana's interview was broadcast, Andy Webb, an author and former BBC TV reporter has written Diana Rama, a book charting his decades-long campaign to uncover
Starting point is 01:11:22 the truth. Web describes it as a story more lurid, more fantastical than anything that happened at the Tudor Court of Henry VIII. And here are the top 10 claims in the book. Number one, Bashir approached Earl Spencer, Diana's brother, in an effort to reach his sister. Number two, the extraordinary scale of Bashir's lies. Prince William is recording you the Queen will abdicate and Prince Edward has AIDS. Number three, Bashir was actually seeking a £1.5 million book deal. Number four, the Mish Khan note in reference to Diana's lawyer. Number five, the Mysterious Missing Documents and the BBC Mafia Memo.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Now, Webb uncovered an eight-page memorandum composed by Anna Stomann. Then the BBC's acting head of weekly programs dated April the 22nd, 1996. Webb described it as a treasure map because it revealed the existence of other BBC documents that later went missing. Stomans note, he writes, ends with the chilling words, the Diana's story is probably now dead unless Spencer talks. When questioned by Lord Dyson in February 2021, Stomond said it sounds a bit like the mafia, but it wasn't meant that way. I promise you. Number six, a cover-up within a cover-up.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Number seven, Bashir bragged from his sickbed off his friendship with Diana. Number eight, the limits of the Dyson report were even acknowledged by Lord Dyson himself. Number nine, the scandal remains an open wound for William. And number 10, from Panorama to Paris, I hold Bashir responsible for Diana's death. So here's the key point. Charles and Diana separated in 1992. But the interview prompted the late Queen to urge Charles and Diana to finalise their divorce, which was completed the following year.
Starting point is 01:13:25 After losing trust in loyal aides such as Patrick Jepson, she was left Iceland. It led to her staying in Paris with Dodi Fayed with poor security and a fatal car crash in August 1997. Webb concludes that a line can be drawn between the program and Diana's death less than two years later. He writes, it seemed to me that because of what Martin Bershear has done in 1995, and more importantly, because it had then been covered up, Diana's life had been sent off on a terribly dangerous course resulting in her death. He's not alone in this view. In his statement after the Dyson report, Prince Harry said our mother lost her life because of this. Simone Simmons, a woman who I know, Diana's new age therapist, recalled that Diana was
Starting point is 01:14:17 terribly excited after meeting Beshear. She was floating on a cloud that you couldn't get her down from. She told the author I hold Beshear fully responsible for Diana's death, not partly responsible, fully responsible. If it wasn't for him, she would still be alive. The other side of the argument from the BBC now, a spokesperson for the organisation saying in 2020, the BBC commissioned Lord Dyson to conduct an independent investigation so that he could gain a full picture of what happened in 1995. The BBC provided all relevant documentation that was in the BBC's possession to the Lord Dyson inquiry. Other individuals involved in these events also supplied Lord Dyson with written materials.
Starting point is 01:15:00 In May 2021, the BBC published the Lord Dyson report and accepted his conclusions in full. This has all been well documented. I note, no denial of the fundamental claim from the book, which is that that Panorama interview and Martin Boucher's corrupted attempt to lie to Diana in order to get her to speak to him directly resulted in her
Starting point is 01:15:28 death. To my superstar panel, Neil Hamilton and Christine Hamilton, did the BBC kill Princess Diana, Christine, as this new book claims? Well, no, they didn't kill Princess Diana. She was killed by a drunken driver, et cetera, et cetera. That's the sort of basic fact. But whether the BBC's evil actions contributed, I mean, there's a difference between, you know, cause and correlation and all this, that and the other, it's semantics. No, a drunken driver killed her. It was a terrible, terrible car accident. There were four people in the car. Three of them did not have seatbelts and three of them were killed. One had a seatbelt and was not. But that does not excuse. And isn't it extraordinary, by the way, that what is the program responsible again?
Starting point is 01:16:19 Panorama. Those holier than thou entitled lofty individuals who are supposed to teach us all, you know, how the world works. Panorama again. I mean, where is Martin Bashir by now? He ought to be in prison. He absolutely ought to be in prison. There's no doubt, I'm sure, that that interview, especially when she discovered the way that it had been put together and the fact that she was lied to,
Starting point is 01:16:42 I mean, that must have been horrific for her to realize that she'd been set up and double-crossed. So I'm sure it helped her, must be careful what I say, her sort of instability, her mental instability. And yes, it may have forced her into the arms of somebody so deeply unsuitable as Dodey fired. But no, I mean, it isn't, the BBC did not kill Diana,
Starting point is 01:17:05 and I can't go along with that. But, I mean, their behaviour was absolutely despicable. And the difference between that Panorama programme and the current one, which is the Trump one, is that Trump, fortunately, is still alive to do something about it. She is helpless. And up until now, her sons have been completely helpless. But maybe, I don't know whether this one,
Starting point is 01:17:28 will give them any closure, probably not. For me, it would just absolutely reawaken everything. And the sheer horror, the absolute horror of that interview and the way it was sought. I mean, I can see now, I can't remember his name, but the BBC employee who's come forward in the last whatever year and said, yes, here is the bill or whatever it was that I doctored to make it look as there somebody had been.
Starting point is 01:17:55 And I mean, it was one half of an operation. I mean, they literally... Unbelievable. By the Great Train robbery. Yeah, they faked documents that made it look as if News International, Rupert Murdoch's newspaper, were paying certain people in Diana's employ in order to make her no longer trust the people who were around her. I mean, it was one hell of an operation. Neil Hamilton, where do you stand on the revelations in this book, Neil?
Starting point is 01:18:25 Well, it sounds all too credible, isn't it? all too obvious in retrospect. I don't suppose when this whole story started, you could have predicted the outcome that she would be killed in the tunnel in Paris all those years later. But that's not the point. The chain of causation stems from this programme. And there's no doubt that the reality is that the BBC ultimately was responsible for what happened, as much as the drunk driver in a way because if it had not been for this program and the effect it had on Diana, she may never have got into that car. So it's not just a matter of what was predictable 30 years ago. It's actually what did happen. And if it had not happened, would the result have been
Starting point is 01:19:14 the same? And the answer that I believe is no. So yes, the BBC does have blood on its hands in this particular instance. And, you know, their complete inability to recognise the magnitude of the errors and the perfidy for which their own staff have been responsible in so many different ways, not just in the Diana case, but we even see it in the Trump case. They haven't fully come out and recognise that the rot starts right in the middle of their organisation. And, you know, the culture in which people like Bashir thrived, was set, of course, by the management in the organisation, the complete lack of control, lack of interest in the truth. And I saw this in my own case 40 years ago with Maggie's militant tendency. And as Christine was saying a moment ago,
Starting point is 01:20:09 the great thing about a defamation case is that you get access to all sorts of documents which are otherwise never see the light of day. And if only we, and see what lurks still in the BBC archives in respect to the Diana case, then I think that would be very illuminating. So, no, I mean, the BBC, I'm afraid, is rotten like a dead fish, you know, from the top down. Totally. And it has to have a complete clear out if it's to survive. Starting with the chairman, of course, why he survived, God knows,
Starting point is 01:20:43 after the Director General and the head of news been fired ignominiously or resigned, before they were pushed. And there are throughout the BBC's organisation, people have the same mentality. I mean, how many people, as a proportion, find their daily reading matter in The Guardian, for example. Well, it's the number one newspaper ordered by the BBC, the number one newspapers of the Guardian.
Starting point is 01:21:10 No one reads it in the rest of the country, apart from at the BBC, which is keeping in business. Christine, I just wanted to raise a point that you made in terms of How William and Harry deal with this now going forward, because I've done a lot of reporting on this over the past a couple of years, and it's interesting now at a very different place. Prince William was able to view the Dyson report almost as a full stop on the matter. So clearly he was furious. He absolutely believes, Christine, in his soul, that that panorama interview, at least in part resulted in Diana's death. Harry is not ready to accept that this should just be at an end.
Starting point is 01:21:53 And it's one of the reasons why he's considering this Netflix documentary, which might look at his mother's death. Would you have any issues with him going down that path? Obviously, William has been very clear that he believes their mother should be able to rest in peace. And he doesn't want, you might remember at the 20th anniversary of her death, what was that? So, you know, a good few years ago now, they made those TV documentaries for the BBC and for ITV, but William made them on the understanding that that's it. You know, we move on now.
Starting point is 01:22:29 William and Harry are at very different places over this. Well, I, you know, they can do what they want. And frankly, I don't particularly care what Harry does. He's lost it as far as I'm concerned. But there comes a moment when whatever has happened to you, however, awful it is, you have to say, enough is enough, and I have to get on with my life. This will obviously reignite a lot of old wounds for the whole family, in particular, for the two boys. But, you know, you can't go on forever raking over it.
Starting point is 01:23:04 I don't know. I mean, I would like them, I would like to feel, William in particular, he's got a lot on his plate. You know, his father is not well. His wife is possibly not well. he might be king fairly soon he's got three young children he needs to move on and get on with the rest of life but you know these revelations are extraordinary and i mean i look forward to to reading the book uh the way she was treated and i'm just trying to put myself in william's position i mean the way his mother was treated was just unbelievable by the state broadcaster by the people that
Starting point is 01:23:43 they would have been brought up to trust. I mean, by the way, how many people are there inside the BBC who were members of reform or even remember members of the Conservative Party? None, I should think. But, you know, he was brought up to trust the BBC. We were all brought up to trust the BBC. And they are, as Neil said, they are completely rotten to the core from the head down. They need to be. It's like the Ordean stables.
Starting point is 01:24:04 It will never be right until it's frankly swept away. But what the boys do, look, it's up to them. I just hope that they will eventually be able to find closure, if you can ever find closure after your mother has been treated. Well, I think William has. I think William has. I don't think Harry will, and I think that's partly about the rest of the unhappiness going on in their lives.
Starting point is 01:24:29 But look, a fascinating discussion. Thank you so much to my brilliant superstar panel, Neil and Christine Hamilton. I adore you both. We'll speak very soon. Thank you. And, of course, we will reveal today's greatest Britain Union jackass in just one moment. First to your comments, though, Babba, NC8WP says in response to those scenes in Bristol and Antifa over the weekend, no face coverings. Maybe they wouldn't be so bloody brave if they didn't have to hide behind it.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Lewis Scales makes a good point about this isn't all just, you know, centered in London. He says it's not just London. I feel unsafe in Peterborough. We get treated like shit up here. They give you dirty looks in the town centre chasing and harassing women. Celerian Unlimited says Rivers of Blood, as predicted by Enoch Powell, and he was rubbish for saying so, but either laughing or ignoring the stark warning given in 1968 or they shouldn't be. And on James O'Brien, Bobabooey, says, what an argument.
Starting point is 01:25:29 James O'Brien is like, yeah, it's unsafe and bad, talking about London, but it's worse somewhere else, so that makes it okay that London is bad. And Swipe 650 says, looking forward to the mic. Graham interview tomorrow. So am I. So am I. Okay, a reminder of your union jackass nominees, Angela Rainer nominated by its back again because she still hasn't paid the 40,000 pounds she owes to HMRC. Narendy Corr nominated by Kaz Quinn for cozying up to the Green Party and Zach Polanski over the weekend. She says the grift don't stop. And Rachel Reeves nominated by warning shout because she's just added another black hole to the one that they inherited with
Starting point is 01:26:07 more to come, referring to the budget. which is very, very soon. And this was a close one today. Goodness gracious me, in third place with 29% of the vote, Angela Raina. The runner up with 31% of the vote, Rachel Reeves. But for her Green Party grift, the worst Britain and the world today, your union jackass this Monday, Narinda Corr, with 39% of the vote. And it is an honorary Greatest Britain today.
Starting point is 01:26:35 Nominated by Anna Island is Donald Trump, who says he is giving exactly what the BBC deserves. I bet they thought it was a bluff. Now, coming up in the uncanceled after show over on Substack, we're moving there now because desperately ambitious Megan Markle has infuriated Netflix chiefs with her transparent bit to cozy up to Jeff Bezos. We're going to have all the latest as we team up with the Royal News Network. So we'll come off YouTube and move to Substack for that.
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