Dan Wootton Outspoken - SHOCK AS NIGEL FARAGE FINALLY BACKS TOMMY ROBINSON DURING BOMBSHELL CPAC APPEARANCE IN USA

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

MANSCAPED - Get 20% off + free shipping with the code Outspoken at https://manscaped.com Nigel Farage has finally backed Tommy Robinson. Not surprisingly he has done so on American soil, but is this a seminal moment in the Overton window moving in terms of the political establishment ignoring the treatment of Britain’s political prisoner who is backed and funded by Elon Musk? Farage’s CPAC appearance was highly significant – the Reform UK leader’s rhetoric has completely changed, with a bombastic public declaration that he will become Prime Minister and save the UK. Dan will analyse Farage’s bold new act in his Digest and is then joined by former UKIP leader Henry Bolton, who is President of the Primrose League, the patriotic, culturally conservative movement, furthering the interests of the nation and its confidence, optimism, prosperity and security since the 1800s. PLUS: Former Prime Minister Liz Truss reveals she’s taking on the British Bashing Corporation with a new independent media venture. What does that mean for GB News? AND: Angela Rayner is exposed as Labour’s latest CV swindler. We’ll expose her lies. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: It’s mood board Meghan Markle now. Our Royal Mastermind Angela Levin is here to analyse her extraordinary new Instagram post, as criticism of her relaunch grows on both sides of the Atlantic, including from Megyn Kelly and Meghan McCain. Sign up to watch at www.outspoken.live. Today’s Sponsors: GROUND.NEWS - Go to https://ground.news/outspoken to see through media bias and stay fully informed. Subscribe through my link for 40% off unlimited access this month. INCOGNI - Take back your personal data with Incogni! Use code OUTSPOKEN at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: http://incogni.com/outspoken SURFSHARK - Go to https://surfshark.com/outspoken for an extra four months of Surfshark at an unbeatable price VERSO - https://buy.ver.so/outspoken - Use code OUTSPOKEN to save 15% on your first order. MANSCAPED - https://manscaped.com – get 20% off + free shipping with the code Outspoken. ---------- Dan Wootton Outspoken is fan funded through monthly and one-time donations: https://www.outspoken.live ---------- Join Dan's Substack community: https://www.danwoottonoutspoken.com ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So be it. Impress even the toughest of critics with freshly prepared Canadian barbecue favorites from Sobeys. No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This is Outspoken Live, episode number 168. And it's finally happened. Nigel Farage backed Tommy Robinson. Now, not surprisingly, he has done so on American soil. But I ask the question whether this is a seminal moment in the Overton window moving in terms of the political establishment ignoring the treatment of Britain's political prisoner, who remember now legally at least is backed and funded by Elon Musk. He's got a very long criminal record. I don't hate him.

And by the way, he shouldn't be, whatever I think of him, he shouldn't be in solitary confinement. I hear he's in very bad conditions and that's not right. Yeah, he doesn't, he's allowed to see his ex-wife. Yeah, that's not right. Thank you. However, Katie Hopkins has now had her visit to Tommy Robinson in Woodhill cancelled. I'll bring you the latest on that. But Farage's CPAC appearance was highly significant.

The Reform UK leader's rhetoric has completely changed with the bombastic public declaration that he will become prime Minister and save the UK. I am now leading, and in historical terms this is incredible, I am now leading Reform UK and we are now topping every opinion poll in Britain. And we are going to win the next general election and save our country. We're going to do it. I'll show you the best bits and analyse Farage's bold new act in my digest next. Then I'm joined by former UKIP leader Henry Bolton, president of the Primrose League, the patriotic, culturally conservative movement furthering the interests of the nation and its confidence, optimism, prosperity and security since the 1800s. Also coming up today, former Prime Minister Liz

Truss reveals she's taking on the British Bashing Corporation with a new independent news media venture. But what does that mean for GB News? And Angela Rayner is exposed as Labour's latest CV swindler will expose her lies. Then in the un-cancelled after show on Substack, it's mood board Meghan Markle now. Our Royal Mastermind Angela Levin is here to analyse her extraordinary new Instagram post as criticism of her relaunch grows on both sides of the Atlantic, including from the cool Meghans in America, Megyn Kelly and Meghan McCain. Now you can sign up, of course, on Substack www.outspoken.live. Because it's a Friday too, we are currently running our worst Britain in the world poll. You just have to go to the posts section on YouTube. We've already had over 25,000 votes, the nominees this week,

because these were all the union jackasses who you picked earlier in the week. So we've got the European leaders, Starmer Schultz and Macron, Ed Davey, because remember, he called Donald Trump a bully, Sadiq Khan, because he was telling the EU that Brexit is wrong, and Zahra Sultana for her threat to Nigel Farage. So get voting now. I will bring you the results. Who is the worst Briton in the world this week? That's at the end of the show. But now, let's go. Nigel Farage has had enough of being cautious. Drunk on the MAGA spirit, all the talk of entering number 10 as an insurgent prime minister has been thrown out the window, replaced by a buccaneering spirit meant to emulate J.D. Vance and Elon Musk.

And to be honest, I'm delighted. As you know, Nigel's caution has annoyed me a little bit, tacking to the left on certain issues like mass deportations and demography and even the situation in Ukraine has been frustrating, even if the poll results, and I concede this, show it has been highly successful. But given the hell the UK now finds itself under Slippery Starmer and his socialist mob, I'm here for Farage's honesty. At CPAC, he admitted the UK is in a mess. My country, you can't say anything or you might get put in prison. We're getting poorer. Everybody's miserable. We're governed by a left-wing, awful government.

And we have had enough. That like you, British taxpayers have had enough of sending £100,000 to Bangladesh to study shrimp behaviour. But we've had enough of free speech being cracked down upon. We've had enough of two-tier policing, two-tier justice, different groups of people being treated differently by the law. We've had enough of being told, you can't say that. The hell with it.

Within the limits of what free speech gives us, we should be allowed to say whatever the hell we want. And we will. Oh, yes, we will. Come on, arrest us if you want to. But Nigel does know, especially in America, that Elon Musk turning on him viciously over the Tommy Robinson situation and seemingly deciding to back Rupert Lowe to replace him

has been hugely damaging. The Washington DC conference was a chance for him to try and make good. Well, I think he's a hero because if you remember 2020 in November, you couldn't say anything about the conduct of the election in this country. You then couldn't say anything about vaccines or about lockdowns without social media closing you down. And then along came the hero of free speech, Elon Musk. Unlike virtually all other British politicians, Farage also provided a full-throttled endorsement of J.D. Vance's speech of a lifetime at the Munich Security Conference where he lambasted Europe for its failings on home turf.

That rather upset them. But J.D. was right to have allowed millions of undocumented young males to come into Europe, many from war zones in which they took an active part, to allow those people who come in, and in many cases come from cultures and countries where women are not even treated as second class citizens, to have seen the massive increases in crime, gang crime, dramatic increases in sexual crime against women. And yet nobody in the European establishment is prepared to put their hands up to recognise the depth of the problem and to say sorry to their people. And JD called them out in this speech, and he was right. He was right.

And there was even time for some fun. And the fun was had at Prince Harry's expense, which I'm always here for. And we, now we very often follow you. American trends we tend to follow. You occasionally follow some of our trends. I mean, you gave us woke. And we gave you Prince Harry.

No, you keep him. You keep him. But then, then was the important moment, the significant moment, the real change in strategy, the declaration. For the first time, Nigel went on the record to say Reform UK will win the next general election, meaning he will become prime minister to save our country. Watch. I am now leading, and in historical terms, this is incredible. I am now leading Reform UK and we are now topping every opinion poll in Britain. And we are. And we are going to win the next general election and save our country. We're going to do it.

And look, the polls certainly back up his new sense of optimism as Zia Youssef, the party's chairman, reported today, reform the most popular party again with a different pollster, Techni UK, 1% ahead of Labour in this poll, 4% ahead of the Conservatives. And the fact that there's now a clean sweep for reform in every major poll means the opposition has pressed the panic button. So we had this from the attack dog 1Ed Davey, Lib Dem leader. There's a rumour that Nigel Farage is keeping his head down because he's off to a Trump cheerleading conference over the weekend. I'm afraid I'm being proved right. Farage is far more interested in Trump's success than British security. He is a bootlicker and plastic patriot. And even more deranged, that woman Zahra Sultana, she's still at it. Another poster. And she wrote

on X, we stand for solutions, not scapegoats. We're against billionaires, bankrolling division, against politicians propping up a system rigged against us, and for a future rooted in working class unity, solidarity, and justice. Join the fight back. But look, the reality is that the fight back is happening on the right. And Nigel's MAGA-inspired race track is much better than the new Tory-lite approach he's taken lately. So it makes me excited about what might be to come. Now, let me bring in today's outsider. Delighted to be joined for the show by Henry Bolton.

He, of course, succeeded Nigel Farage as the leader of UKIP, now the president of the Primrose League, the patriotic, culturally conservative movement which furthers the interest of the nation and its prosperity and security since the 1800s. He is also an ex-diplomat, soldier and police officer. Henry Bolton, so great to have you back on Outspoken. What did you make of this change in tone

from Nigel Farage at CPAC overnight? Well, as you quite rightly said just now, there's a bit more forward-leaning rhetoric coming from nigel than we've seen for a for a few weeks if not a couple of months uh but you know on the other side of it we've got to remember that he is at cpac uh cpac is a particular sort of environment safe territory yeah indeed and it was safe territory very much so for Nigel. But also they're a very American Republican type of sort of political body. And I think, you know, they're very, very, as you say, friendly environment, very receptive to his message, very receptive to that sort of rhetoric.

And he's enjoying it. And Nigel does enjoy that sort of thing. So it doesn't surprise me at all to hear this coming from Nigel in that setting. Do you believe it though, Henry? Do you believe it? Do you think Farage can become prime minister and Reform UK can win the next election? Can, yes. Are they on track to? I actually, I'm little bit of a I don't think they are on track at the moment. Yes, the polling is high, but on the polling, you know, his former leader of UKIP and with a lot of contacts from within that sort of ex UKIP, sort of quietly patriotic sort of centre right group of people who are deeply disappointed with the Conservative Party, deeply disappointed with the direction that the country's going in, deeply disappointed with the lack of delivery for Brexit. Those people, a lot of them have subscribed as supporters to

the Reform Party, but are far from having decided to vote for them. And indeed, we've got another four years or more before the next general election. And the other thing to look at, whilst the polling is high, is not just where reform are, but the appalling place that the Conservative Party and the Labour Party are. And look at the by-election results, local election by-election results since the last general election. Because whereas UKIP traditionally did very well in local by-election results, reform is not doing so well.

I think there's been about 163 by-elections since the general election, of which reform has won 11 and the Conservative Party has won 24 or gained 24 um so in that respect the voting in those by-elections albeit local government uh is not necessarily reflecting what we're seeing in the polling and And I think the nature of the way that reform has recruited its members skews the thing somewhat. And finally, on all that, I think that reform is offering a great deal of hope. As I said, there's a huge disappointment in the Conservative Party,

understandably so. The Conservative Party absolutely does not deserve anybody's vote. Through negligence and incompetence, it's failed to deliver, failed to deliver and failed to deliver again. The Labour Party, of course, is actively undermining the nation. So where is there to go? And Nigel, with his rhetoric, his showmanship and so on, is the obvious place to look to for hope. But he and the party so far, whilst being artful in the extreme at telling us what we already know, as Nigel did in those clips that you showed, we know that everything's in an appalling state. But what are the solutions? Now, in the past, I've had conversations with Nigel, heated conversations, when I've tried to advocate that the detail

matters, only to be told that I'm not interested in detail, nobody's interested in the detail. But as a sort of former military planner, I know very well that if you get the detail wrong, it's not just intention, it's about getting the detail right, how you're going to do things, whether things you've got, you've got all the resources in the right place at the right time to do the right thing. So all of these caveats, I would say if reform does want to gain power in the next general election, these things have to be addressed. It's far from a done deal yet. And Henry, what about you personally? Because you haven't thrown your weight behind Reform UK. Is there a reason for that? Yeah, there is a reason. I'll give you the history of it, Dan. I don't think I've ever given it to anybody else. Just sort of briefly. I obviously lost the leadership of UKIP.

And I spoke to Nigel on a couple of occasions and said, look, you really need to re-engage because now there is nobody. UKIP is going to go by the by, you know, fade into insignificance incredibly rapidly. You need to re-engage because the remain elements, the remain campaigners are regrouping, reorganising. And if the vacuum that's been left after Brexit, after the referendum, is not filled, then with a vision, with direction, with proposals as to what we should do what our plan is um then if if that void is not filled then those reform the sorry the uh remain people the rejoin people are going to start to dominate the debate and nigel did not want to get in that's where we had that concept of that conversation uh heated conversation about detail um and but in the end he did re-engage but again there's no

detail i i i repeatedly sort of tried to push that um he and i spoke about forming a new party which i did uh which was the our nation party that was in full collaboration with nigel uh we were speaking two three times a week about it. Unbeknownst to me, he was setting up the Brexit party in parallel and suddenly he announced that he was doing that and that that was a done deal. I wasn't terribly impressed, but nonetheless, I threw my weight behind Nigel, offered to help. He said, don't want your help. You know, don't want it to look like UKIP 2. I've subsequently had conversations with Richard Tice and with Nigel, where I've been asked for my input on how to

manage borders, how to manage the boats coming across the channel. Those have all been incredibly frustrating, if I'm honest, Dan, because I have proposed solutions. I've told them why their four point plan cannot work. I want it to work. We need to stop the boats and there are ways of doing it. But I've highlighted the reasons why that four point plan cannot work and what could work, only to be told, Henry, that's not what we want to hear. That's not the answer we want to apply. And so I see a party, if I'm honest, that is all about rhetoric and not about detail. And they don't care about the detail. If it's got the attractive headline that is going to attract votes and support, then they're happy with it. I'm not sure that whatever nigel says i mean i think there's

going to have to be a change within the party because if they realistically do come to the point where whatever they say whatever they might be thinking something different at present time um but if if it's really a serious prospect that they're going to be forming the next government, then they are going to have to address these things, because otherwise they will fail. They will disappoint as much, if not more, than the Conservatives did. But at the moment, what they're interested in is building up that momentum. You keep hearing it from momentum, momentum. Now, I've offered to be part of that i've offered to do the back back room detail stuff the the policy the uh the sort of development of of all of the things that nigel you know nigel wants to deliver x y and z well let's work out precisely how to do that what it's going to cost what it's going to take how to do it what legislation needs changing you know

all of these sort of things all the diplomatic sort sort of issues. We can work all that out, but he doesn't want to. And nor does Richard Tice. So there's not a place for me in that party. And I've been told quite clearly, you know, we don't want you because it's going to look too much like UKIP, too, which I think is rubbish. But I think it's more that I'm quite outspoken. And so what I have done, actually, Dan, is I've gone to the Social Democrat Party, I don't really care if reform picks that up and runs with it, so long as somebody does things properly. Now, on that, you know, another frustration is where reform keeps on picking up on things that other people have developed. So, for example, it's been a long standing sort of little phrase of the Social Democrat Party, family, community, nation.

Well, you know, Nigel Farage says what he said a week ago or so. Look, for me, I came back into politics because I thought about it and I realised that it's about family, community and country. And so many of the reform headline policies are ones that the SDP has been running with for a lot longer. So, you know, if that influences the future of British politics and governance, I'm happy. But it's a little frustrating that reform keeps saying we are the only party that we are the only party that when that is patently not true. And they know it and they know it because actually at certain levels there have been conversations between the two parties so all of these things dan disappoint me and even now um if you look at the yes i think today's papers are running and

yesterday it was announced that um the the reform party is now not owned by Nigel and Richard. That's true. However, before that change went through, sort of legally in Companies House and so on, the constitution was changed. And having been a party leader who has been removed by primarily the national executive of his party, I understand the value of constitutions in this respect, party constitutions. And to all practical purposes, the reform constitution makes Nigel's position unassailable. Now, I'm not suggesting for a moment that the members of reform want to remove Nigel.

I think that's far from the case. I wonder what would happen to reform if Nigel wasn't there. But the point is that, again, this is what the Russians would call maskurovka, which is misleading. It's a deception plan, because whilst you change the legal setup, what you've done before doing that is ensure that the position of the leader is still unassailable democratically. So through another mechanism, it's disappointing if a political party can't respect democratic processes within its own structures and organisation. How is it going to respond if it becomes the government to a broader...

These are questions, Dan, and I don't mean to be critical, except in a constructive manner. If reform gets into government, I want to know that these things have been addressed, because I think they do have, they can have, to go back to your original question, they could form the next government. But to go back to your original question, they could form the next government. But these things do need to be addressed, particularly for the good of the

nation, if they do gain power. And I'm a great fan. You're showing photos of me with Nigel there. I mean, I am a great supporter and have huge respect for Nigel. But we all sometimes need a broader team. We need to listen to other people. We need to question ourselves, our own motives and whether or not we're getting carried away with certain aspects of the job that we enjoy rather than focusing on the delivery for other people. Because at the end of the day, politics is about delivering for other people, not about making yourself feel good. Indeed, fascinating insight there into the history. Personally, I would say, come on, there's so much that Henry Bolton has to offer to Reform UK. Although I do get the sense sometimes Reform UK aren't that into critical friends. And obviously, if you're not a sycophant, that can be a problem. But as you've seen today, very positive from me about Nigel's speech. Breaking right now, Nigel Farage has backed Tommy Robinson publicly for the first time while in Washington DC for the

CPAC conference. So is this potentially a seminal moment in terms of the shifting Overton window when it comes to Britain's most famous and most mistreated political prisoner. And things have just got worse, by the way, behind bars for Tommy Robinson at HMP Woodhill. It has just been revealed that his friend Katie Hopkins has now had her visit with Tommy cancelled by the prison. Tommy's team say she was the only person booked in that day. So it seems like Tommy will have another day wasted by the prison and governorship and will have to remain in his cell. They want to break him, but they will fail because Tommy has the support of the free world behind him and they know it. So we know the background here. Nigel Farage being under serious pressure to speak up against the ill and inhumane, and I believe completely illegal, treatment of Tommy

Robinson behind bars. Obviously, Elon Musk very quickly withdrew his support for Nigel Farage as reform UK leader because he wouldn't come on board. So it was perhaps inevitable that he would be asked about the Tommy situation at CPAC. He knew that he was going to have to change his position. And this is what happened when he came face to face with Tommy's own outlet, Urban Scoop. Mr Farage, I'm from the UK. Hello, I have a question for you. Rupert Lowe says you don't have to hate Tommy Robinson because he's exposing a lot of grooming gangs.

What's your point on that? Because you question sometimes his criminal record on TV. Well, he's got a very long criminal record. I don't hate him. And by the way, whatever I think of him, he shouldn't be in solitary confinement. I hear he's in very bad conditions, and that's not right. Yeah, he doesn't allow to see his ex wife. Yeah, that's not right. Thank you. So it's a start. It's something, isn't it? I know there'll be supporters of Tommy Robinson, who don't think that is enough. But remember, that is a serious change in tone from even just a few weeks ago.

A lot of that has been forced by people like the former Reform UK deputy Ben Habib, now chairman of the Great British PAC, who had this to say to Rebel News. He's an absolutely awful man. Lord Hermer should be sacked. Lord Hermer decided he's a political appointment by the Labour Party, the Attorney General, and he decided that it was a matter of national public interest that Tommy Robinson's case should be taken from being a civil case to a criminal case. Now, at no level in my view is it of a national interest. And that was the bar he had to get over to convince himself that this had to go now criminal. So it was an appointed politician of the worst sort, a terrorist sympathizer.

Sue me if you want to, Lord Herma. A terrorist sympathizer who decided to convert Tommy Robinson's case from one of civil action to criminal action and then the then the court threw the book at Tommy Robinson so anyone who can't grasp those facts can't see the cause and effect of the political interference in Tommy Robinson's case is in denial yeah and it doesn't matter what you think of Tommy Robinson I make no apology for Tommy Robinson I'm not here saying Tommy Robinson's a great guy or a bad guy it doesn't matter yeah he is a political prisoner and certain members of certain leaders of certain parties should have

the courage to say it yeah fascinating insight there with the great sammy woodhouse this is the latest update by the way new, new from Tommy's team, who say Tommy's legal team is still working in the background. We cannot and will not go public on legal strategy or arguments for obvious reasons at this moment in time. Just be assured things are moving along as they should be. Tommy has asked people not to protest outside the prison. Doing so at this moment in time could well end up being counterproductive, and we do not want to compromise the legal arguments challenging his current treatment by HMP Woodhill. Despite everyone's frustrations, the real battle is in the courts.

So please respect Tommy's wishes. If or when things change situationally, we will update you further. I want to bring in Henry Bolton now. He is the former leader of the UKIP party. And Henry, you obviously have your own interesting history with Tommy Robinson because Tommy has been in and out of UKIP for a number of years and it did cause a huge split within the party. But where do you stand in terms of the treatment of Tommy Robinson behind bars?

I think this is a broader conversation, and I don't think it necessarily needs to be personalised in terms of Tommy. I think Tommy is symbolic of the problem, which is an effort by by politicians, by the government, by certain people in positions in the judiciary to actually close down free speech. I think they see. I mean, I know great fan of Tommy, a former police officer. Tommy has got a criminal record. That doesn't mean say that, you know, people don't change or people don't regret what they've done. But I think Tommy has had and has expressed legitimate opinions. And I as well as sometimes a little bit sort of beyond, you know, somewhat exaggerated, but I but nonetheless, those are opinions and i think it is fundamental in a democracy that people are allowed to express their opinions we do have a problem in this country that a whole range of people on the left on the right in the center don't want to listen they don't want to listen to home truths they don't want to listen to other opinions that

question their own worldview, their own perception of things or their own sort of tribal affiliations. And I think, you know, that is a serious problem. Tommy is symbolic of that problem. And I think we should all be seriously concerned. I think I would absolutely echo what Nigel has said, that, you know, I'm not a lawyer. Is it right that he's in jail? He was in violation of court orders and so on. So as I understand it, so that, you know, I've known as a police officer, people who've been arrested and gone to jail for that. Tommy's not an exception. But there is clearly a political angle to this. I find it so difficult, Dan, if I'm honest, to even use in the United Kingdom,

regarding the United Kingdom, that there are political prisoners here. But I think we have to accept that there is an angle of the way that Tommy has been treated that is politically driven. And he's not necessarily a political prisoner, but the way that Tommy has been treated that is politically driven. And he's not necessarily a political prisoner, but the way he's been treated, the isolation he's being held in and so on, which I don't, we don't know the details of whether that, to what extent that's for his own safety.

But the whole presentation of this is incredibly worrying. And I just think that, you know, when we look at this, you know, it's not just him, as I say, but people have been arrested for comments on social media, people have been in prison for that. United Kingdom in the 21st century and we are arresting people because they are activists or campaigners not because of criminal damage that they have done not because you know they committed a crime as such but because because that's that's valid but where but but when they're expressing an opinion like Tommy has and raising issues and concerns that are shared by a great many people in the country I think we've got some serious serious problem problems that need to be addressed and I go back to reform yes you know um you know there are lots of promises made lots of you know this is wrong well that's wrong and Nigel quite rightly called called this out you know in in CPAC again you I think you were spot on the money there where you said, well, of course, in that environment, you know, having been criticised, particularly by Elon Musk

over the way that this has all been dealt with, I think it was inevitable that Nigel was going to come out with that. But I think he's right nonetheless. But what to do about it? That is the question. And it is clear that the Labour government is not going to address it. The Labour government are responsible for this largely, but so is the previous Conservative government, and so are the judiciary, so are the police. The whole thing has been politicised. If you poke your head above the parapet and you express something that politically is at odds with them, whether it's about gender or whether it's about you know the migrants or whatever it is um you know you get your head ripped off i mean you know piers morgan ripping into me because i supported suella bravman and saying we were

facing an invasion of of people coming across the english channel and that you know he tried to make the whole program about that word invasion um you, there are people in the media who are equally responsible for this. And how to address it, to be honest, I don't know. But I think there's more and more expression of concern about this. And hopefully at some point that will come over and actually dominate the electoral voting. I think that's the only way. But again, I'd like to see answers from Nigel as to what the plan is. I think that we've got to restructure, reorganise both our police and our judiciary. And I think that's a good start.

Our whole law enforcement has to be turned around. And it is only really since the training, Theresa May largely responsible, but Blair to an extent as well, for the change in the recruitment and training processes regarding policing. I think there's a great deal to be done there, but I think this requires root and branch reform

because that is where this all started. Well, exactly. So you're saying we need to start seeing specifics and there are some really obvious specifics, aren't there? reform because that is where this all started. Well, exactly. So you're saying we need to start seeing specifics. And there are some really obvious specifics, aren't there? We should have the equivalent of a First Amendment, which protects free speech, which protects independent journalism. Right.

Even if sometimes that independent journalism is going to offend people, you can sue if you want. You shouldn't end up in jail as a result of it. And also we have to end these non-crime hate incidents altogether, given that people like Alison Pearson are being visited by police. Plus, I genuinely do not believe anyone should be in jail for any social media posts. Seriously. I mean, we have Julie Sweeney, a grandmother who posted on Facebook on the day of the Southport massacre, Lucy Connolly, the wife of the conservative politician, Raymond Connolly, who is in prison for over two years because of a post on X. And the mainstream media, when they're told, Henry, you know, we actually have more political

prisoners in this country in terms of social media posts than Russia, they act horrified. But it's true. It's actually true. I agree, Dan. And the non-hate crimes. I mean, what is a non-hate crime? And why are they wasting their time? I mean, when there's such real crime.

I mean, look, you obviously know all about policing, all about law and order. But our streets feel incredibly unsafe at the moment, Henry. And I don't care what the statistics say, because you know most people don't even bother now to report crimes because they know the police won't even show up. Correct. Our policing is appalling. Now, you know, I want to put a caveat on that because there are a great many men and women serving in the police forces around the country who who who do have the right ethos and would put themselves and do put themselves daily between those who would do harm and those to whom they would do that they would do harm. And I take my hat off to them. But the whole institutionally, the organisation has been corrupted by political correctness, by woke, call it what you will. And the eye is off the ball. The ball is keeping the British public safe and safe and security. I was with Thames Valley Police and I think at that time we had the the motto the motto was sit packs in thames valley

but but let there be peace in the thames valley but but it was also about the preservation of life and property and that is it that is it that's your sort of prime directive as a police officer it's not you know whether somebody's offended um there are rules there are laws in the public order act that you, if you deliberately go out, deliberately, to go to cause alarm or distress or harassment, then, you know, rightly, I don't think you should go out of your way to cause somebody alarm or distress. I think that's wrong. And rightly, there are laws against that. But to actually say to somebody, I'm arresting you because you've offended somebody on social media. To hell with that. The response to that is if you if you don't like what somebody's I get it daily.

I'm sure you do that absolutely daily, multiple times. People give you abuse online. I don't report it to the police. I, you know, I've got thicker skin. I just block them, you know. Totally, totally. There is such an obvious distinction between trolling, which we totally accept, and between actual threats of violence, actual incitement of violence. But at the moment, that line has become so blurred. And trust me, Alison Pearson,

Julie Sweeney, Lucy Connolly, their tweets didn't even come close. They didn't even come close. Breaking right now, the former Prime Minister, Liz Truss, has announced that she intends to take on the British bashing corporation, but perhaps more significantly too, the UK's conservative news network, GB News, by launching a brand new independent media venture. She made the announcement overnight at the CPAC conference in Washington, DC, where she posted on X,

JD Vance is right. Europe's governments, especially Britain's, are treating George Orwell's 1984 like an instruction manual. That's why we are establishing a new free speech media network with some help from our American allies. And here's how she made the revelation on stage at CPAC. We have seen what independent media has done for the United States, and we want some of that. That's why we are going to be establishing a new free speech media network in conjunction with our American allies. Including the great people here at CPAC.

It will be uncensorable and uncancellable. It will take on the Britain Bashing Corporation, which is what we call the BBC. It will take on Starmer and his socialists. And it will take on the censors of Germany. Because it's only by telling people the truth in the United Kingdom, in Europe, in the Anglosphere, in America, that we will turn our backs on the wars west against itself. Now, this is really fascinating. I have to be honest, I've known a little bit about Liz's plans for some time. This is the first time she's gone public with them. Henry Bolton, former UKIP leader with me now, also was at GB News for its launch. I think it has changed significantly.

I know you still contribute to the channel. You were obviously on a lot with me. But I think we can be honest and say it wants to be mainstream now. It's part of the mainstream media and it really has tacked towards the centre ground. Plus, it's regulated by the off communists, which means you have to do this faux balance constantly and have crazy lefties on it. It's a very different thing to what's happening with the independent media in the US and certainly what I'm trying to do here with a show like Outspoken. So what do you make of Liz's plans to take on GB News with her own independent news network? Well, it's interesting, isn't it, Dan? It's interesting that you say that you've known a little bit about this for a little while.

And I say that because, obviously, this hasn't come out of the blue, particularly she's referencing the CPAC itself. Really, the success lies in what backing she's got, because as you'll know, it's an expensive business setting up something like that. And to get that reach and projection out there, it's not much different setting up a new political party, in fact, and getting that out there. But, you know, it's also interesting for me, Dan, because a little while ago i i um i had conversations with cpac myself and i actually if liz if liz is listening um if you want the uh the the uh trademark for cpac or uk or britpac i own that so uh you know we might talk about whether or not you want to buy it off me that

is so funny because i know that people like Liz, and I totally agree, definitely think there should be a CPAC UK. Crazy that there's not. No. And part of the conversations I had with CPAC a couple of years ago about this, I'm not going to be indiscreet because they wouldn't have expected me to repeat those conversations necessarily. But they had been looking at how they could develop a CPAC in the United Kingdom.

But at that point, they had not been able to find a suitable partner. There were some people that they felt were too populistic, some people that they thought were too academic and intellectual in their approach, and they hadn't found the right person. I'm wondering whether they found the right person in their minds in Liz Truss. We'll see. But there is no doubt that Nigel was right, you know, with regards to trends. For a while, there have been those of us in the United Kingdom looking at CPAC, and it's run by something called the American Conservative Union, looking at that as an example of how you can bring the right, the centre right and the right together in a format that is, okay, over there, it's dominated by the Republican Party. But here in the United Kingdom,

we've got reform, we've got elements of the Conservative Party, we've got the SDP, which in many ways is stronger on many of these things than reform or the Conservative Party. And you've got these these parties that you somehow need to bring together we've all talked about the the right needs to

unify and come together well perhaps it shouldn't come together as one political party but in a format where you can exchange ideas opinions solutions and so on have those debates and speeches and so on and everybody can can listen as CPAC does. And I think that would be a great thing. And if Liz can pull something off like that, then fabulous. Well, exactly. It's about building a movement. Yeah, building a movement because, remember,

before Donald Trump in the US, before MAGA, there was the Tea Party movement. And, of course, the Tea Party movement was aligned to the Republican Party, but it wasn't the Republican Party because the Republican Party was full of the old school rhinos, the neocons. And we have a very similar situation here in the UK in terms of the Conservative Party. When it comes to the media, what I'm interested in, of course, is the idea of no regulation. But I think what is also very critical is that people are free without the constraints of billionaire owners, because I know what that's like. I spent 20 years

in the mainstream media. I know what it's like. And it's interesting. I was in a black cab yesterday, a really, really lovely driver who used to pick me up when I was going to GB News. And he said to me, Dan, honestly, this is the best thing that's ever happened to you because you're so much better now. He didn't mean that I was presenting any differently or anything like that, but I am free now. I am genuinely free. When you work within a mainstream media organization that is funded by a billionaire, you are constrained in certain ways. And obviously I push back on that all the time. But so what's going to be interesting to me about this network is how do you keep the independence of the voices who are on it but the thing about liz and i've got

to know liz incredibly well she is a friend liz genuinely believes in free speech she isn't one of these people who says she does. She really does. In fact, she sort of takes the same position on these things as J.D. Vance. And Henry, I wanted to show you a moment of J.D. Vance at CPAC as well, talking about that incredible speech a week ago now, believe it or not, at the Munich Security Conference. Yeah. And we're still all talking about it. You know, it was a huge moment that is going to change the international order in a lot of ways. Dan, just before you go to that, you know,

isn't it an indictment on British politics that it takes an American vice president to introduce these things that some of us have been trying to talk about, but we've actually been closed down on it. It just doesn't get the traction. Because if you talk about it on the mainstream media, they act as if you're mad or they brand you as far right. It's much more difficult now when you have a Republican vice president. And again, he was very strong on stage at CPAC as to why he had delivered the speech.

So let's have a watch, Henry, and I'll get you to react off the back. Germany's entire defense is subsidized by the American taxpayer. There are thousands upon thousands of American troops in Germany today. Do you think that the American taxpayer is going to stand for that if you get thrown in jail in Germany for posting a mean tweet? Of course they're not, right? So the point that I try to make to our European friends, and I think that they're our friends, I believe that, I know President Trump does, is that friendship is based on shared values. You do not have shared values if you're jailing people for saying we should close down our border. You don't have shared values if you

cancel elections because you don't like the result and that happened in Romania you don't have you do not have shared values if you're so afraid of your own people that you silence them and shut them up so let's have shared values let's defend democracy let's have free expression not just in the United States but all over over the Western world. That is the path to strong alliances in Europe. Henry, I mean, I just say amen, but what's your reaction? Yeah, thank God for J.D. Vance. I totally agree. And, you know, it is, you know, to people like you and me and others,

you know, it is music to our ears to have that sort of support because we've been almost like voices in the darkness trying to say this. And I think the majority of the British people agree. You know, I don't know what to say. I mean, you go to the pubs, you go to the cafes, you know, everybody I speak to pretty much, and I'm not in a bubble at all. Some people sort of, you know, give me a hard time. But most people are saying, you know, what has happened to this country? And it's exactly what J.D. Vance says. We have we have abandoned the values of democracy and the principles of democracy, which are based on free speech. If you don't have free speech, if you can't express yourself, if there's an element of society that is is being shut off, is not being listened to, then they have no democratic involvement.

They are they're disenfranchised. And that is the sort of thing that Ceausescu's Romania or Tito's Yugoslavia or Putin's Russia, you know, we have spent going back, you know, Hitler's Germany. We have as a nation stood up as a bastion of of of fairness, of freedom, of of all of these things and of democracy. And we we are we've we've we've forgotten about them. We've abandoned them. And that's that that is a crying shame. And we have. That's why you know what I've been through politically. And I've been on my chin straps. I have been as low as a person

can be. We know about the reality of cancellation. Which is when everyone tries to destroy you. You've had the same thing as me. The establishment, the mainstream media, the political class. And it's brutal. It is absolutely brutal. But why do I keep going? It's not because I'm bored. It's not because I'm, you know, I haven't got other things to do. It is because I believe passionately that this country is great, that the people of this country and our ancestors, those we've

inherited the heritage that we've got from, have achieved so much, not just for ourselves, but for the world. Yes, we've made mistakes. Yes, we've done bad things. But overall, we have done so much for the world and we are still in a position to do so much good, but not if we abandon those principles ourselves. And I think the Americans are absolutely right. Or J.D. Vance is absolutely right. Why should America back us when we are walking away from those things that are so admirable and so altruistic and so badly needed in the world? Why should they support us?

Why should they encourage that process by defending it, by giving us a blank check, so to speak? He's right. I do fear, on the other hand, though, Dan, that at the present time with Putin, there are issues, you know, it makes the West vulnerable to all sorts of things to be seen to have that split. But it's inevitable. And it's not the fault of the Americans. It's our own fault. And that's why I keep going. Well, I couldn't agree more. And thank God you do keep going. But it is tough when you go through it. But I guess the great thing is once you've gone through it,

there's nothing left to fear because they've tried everything they possibly can. I did just want to show you, by the way. We ought to set up a club, Dan. David Starkey said the same thing, actually. And he said it would be the most interesting club in the world because of all of our stories together. It might be the solution. Now, I just wanted to show you this post on X from Rory Stewart. His criticism of J.D. Vance

just gets more deranged by the day, right? The latest is him trying to say J.D. Vance is really irresponsible for being on X. He said, I used to be a cabinet minister with a far less important job than J.D. Vance, and I have a sense of how much time that took. I reckon that the VP and Elon Musk are spending more than two hours a day reading and composing posts on X. Is that at the expense of their work or is this their work now? And it's just like they will stop at nothing,

will they, to try and silence these guys. So the latest thing now is J.D. Vance shouldn't be on X because he should be focusing on his real work. Yeah. And Rory Stewart can be on X. That's why. But look, the job of politicians is to, you know, they've got to be able, part of the job is to communicate effectively. And in the modern world, a politician who isn't on X is, you know, is not communicating with a significant proportion of the population. What Rory Stewart is basically saying is, I don't want people with these views on my timeline,

on my feed. And I think, you know, Rory is a great example of what's wrong with the Conservative Party. I mean, good Lord, he even stood as the leader of the Conservative Party. I mean, I find that mind-boggling. Now, look, people will say that about me, but he's a has-been. It's not relevant. What is relevant is that actually J.D. Vance,

I do believe, is in tune with the sentiments of the majority of british people and they are the people going back to our earlier conversation who are who are placing hope in in reform i just my hope is that reform doesn't betray that hope for other reasons. But but, you know, we stop polling that inspiration and that hope. And J.D. Vance, although he's an American, Vice President of the United States, is offering that hope. Totally. Because we know we're not alone.

Totally. And we need that hope. And maybe the new independent media launched by Liz Truss will add to that hope. Now, stand by, Henry Bolton, because Angela Rayner, the Deputy Prime Minister, is the latest to be exposed in the Cabinet for being a CV swindler. So, Henry Bolton, back with that extraordinary story in just one minute. So, don't go anywhere. But first, attention all the proud, the bold, and the beautifully

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Get the Dome Shaver Plus today and experience a shave that is as smooth as you deserve. But now, back to the show. Breaking right now, the Deputy Prime Minister, Angela Rayner, has become the latest member of Cabinet to be exposed as a CV swindler. I'm going to take you through these extraordinary claims revealed by the Guido Forkes website in just a moment. But first, before we get there, can I just say how shameful, how absolutely shameful and hypocritical this cabinet is? Because first, we had Rachel from Accounts, the Chancellor, who lied about her time as an economist and all of the scandal that she faced. Then we have had Jonathan Reynolds, the Business Secretary, who the Conservatives have now actually launched a campaign asking if anyone can see him because he has gone into hiding as a result of the lies

on his CV. And now what I think is even more shocking, that you have other members of the cabinet lying to try and save their colleagues' skin. Remember, this from a government that said they were coming in to clean up British politics. So let me show you Lisa Nandy, the culture secretary, during an interview on LBC telling a point-blank lie. And I can prove it's a point-blank lie, by the way, if she wants to question me on this, because it's followed directly by the lie that the business secretary, Jonathan Reynolds, told in Parliament. Watch. Does Mr Reynolds find it necessary to lie about his background? I don't think Johnny lied about his background for a minute. He has never pretended to be a

solicitor. Before the last election, I worked as a solicitor in Manchester city centre and I would travel in to Manchester every day for what is now my constituency. Now, Stephen Barrett, one of our top legal minds, posted that as a result of that interview, Nandy should also now go. We can't have ministers lie to protect ministers who lie. It is the cover up that kills. But of course, the mainstream media are just ignoring this story because it's the Labour Party. It's their folks. They don't want any of their friends out of a job. But Guido Fawkes has been very good on this and they have now exposed Rainer's wildly inconsistent career history.

And I want to take you through this because I think it's utterly damning. So Guido Fawkes writes, Evidence so far has shown that the Labour cabinet may have felt the need at times to buff up their careers prior to entering politics. Reeves' Who's Who entry has received scrutiny this week as it claimed the Chancellor had written in a much more prestigious economics journal than she actually had done. Rainer's entry says this of her career, Home Help, Private Sector and Local Government 1998-2005, Trade Union Lay 2005. Trade union lay activist 2002-15. That suggests seven years. The Times notes that Who's Who typically asks those it wishes to include to write their own entries. Separately,

Rainer's personal candidacy website from 2014 describes her as a trade union official with unison. She says there of her background, my first job was as a carer, looking after elderly people in their homes. I stayed in that profession for almost a decade and experienced the conditions that often made headlines today. That's why I joined a trade union. But Guido reports bizarrely in a 2020 Facebook post on her personal account, Raina commemorated her election exactly five years ago tonight after 14 years service in local government as a home

care worker I left Stockport Council. Rainer upgrades her time working as a home help from seven years to 14. Even more strangely in March of last year during the foray over the 2015 sale of her council house Rainer said at the time of the sale of the house I was a home carer and it was my home. That would put her time as a home help at 17 years. So as Guido says, that's four different public statements and four completely different time periods ranging from seven to 17 years. And they ask, is Labour set to change the definition of decade? According to Lord Ashcroft's biography of Rainer, the Deputy Prime Minister spent six months as a home help in 1998 after an 18-month gap during which she was not working as a home help. She then joined Stockport Council as a home help. Council records released under the

Freedom of Information Act confirm that Rainer was employed as a home help with employment dates being from August 2000 to 2005. That's five years. But Ashcroft's book concludes that she was actually employed for just three years as a carer because for up to two years of the period, she was in fact a unison official working on facility time. This is when a union representative is allowed to take paid time off to carry out their trade union role. Now, as Guido says, Reina can't seem to decide how long she spent as a home help. Does anyone in the cabinet have a reliable CV? And Henry Bolton, former UKIP leader with me now. Henry, look, the thing is, you can say, oh, why does it matter? Why does it matter how long Angela Rayner spent as a home help?

But why it matters is because pretty much every senior cabinet minister seems to be a liar. You know, we've had Starmer lie time and again. They can't even tell the truth about their own career histories. I know. And there's, you know, there's not even consistency in the lies. There's just all over the place. I think there is, particularly amongst Labour politicians, but it seems to be quite prevalent in parts of the Conservative party as well as this this attempt to uh to communicate credibility through i delivered newspapers or i had a paper round and i i was a home help and i was well yeah and i mean well done you but there are so many people in this

world who do so many good things of that sort. I mean, you know, paper rounds. OK, not many people have a paper round these days, I suppose. But back in the day, you know, I had a paper round. Well, good on me. I mean, you know, well, well done. Of course, I deserve a pat on the back and I deserve to be deputy prime minister. I mean, you know, whatever. I mean, the whole thing is bonkers. And I, you know, then to lie about it is just beyond the pale. That said, Dan, I mean, I you know, it's an interesting thing because I had I was on a train to to to the up to the northeast where I was on. I was going to go on news night and I was on the train and I got a

phone call I think it was from the Daily Mirror saying you know we've just read a blog that says your entire military career is a fiction can you you know I said well it's obviously not and they said well can you can you prove that and I said well I'm on a train at the moment to Scarborough and they said well have you got any documentation that you can send us I said I want a bloody train to Scarborough and actually as it happened I did have some documentation which I sent them nonetheless they published the story and it it's still to an extent somebody wrote a book about a year ago uh Michael Crick in which he referred to that again it's these things go on so there is also this sort of witch hunting. So to an extent, I have some sympathy because people are trying to dig up dirt, but then when you, even when there isn't any, but when you

lie about it, when you exaggerate something, well, you know, where is your integrity? And, you know, it has to be something that you have to answer. And Angela, the problem with the Labour Party and their front bench is that they seem to think that they don't have to answer any of these concerns. They don't have to address them, whether it's the prime minister, Angela Rayner, Rachel Reeves, whoever, the business secretary. They none of them think that they need to be accountable for what they say and what they do. And that, again, it goes back to our previous conversation about the closure, closing down of free speech. It's anti-democratic. If people have concerns about something you've said, you know, well, if you don't want to be held accountable, then you're not democratic. Democracy is about being held accountable for what you do and don't do. And, you know, there is a real problem with integrity in this particular government.

As you quite rightly said, from the beginning, from before the election, all of the pledges, all of the implied and specifically stated, we will do something, we won't do something. And then they go on to be to form the government and do precisely the opposite. And they don't blink an eye. They don't care, Dan. They genuinely don't care. They feel that they are unassailable and untouchable. And sadly, because they were handed such a large majority, that's probably the case. We've got to put up with them for some years yet. But by God, we need to make sure that they don't get another term. Totally. And I agree. Yeah, that's not happening. I agree with all of that. But what about the total rank hypocrisy from the mainstream media? Because you just know that if a conservative minister

had lied about their CV in this way, They would be out because the news would never stop. Actually, the mainstream media, by and large, just ignored this story. It's like it's not even happening. Nothing to see here, folks. Well, again, Kate can use my example. I was on the right of politics, still am. And the media just would not let that go. As I say, it was a former political editor who wrote this book. He's still spouting this stuff. And it's it's proven to be false. And although it's false, you know, it's it was there for months that I'd fabricated my entire military career. You know, just go on my Facebook page page you'll see that's not the case and i i you know so as you say the media will go after you if you're on the center right or right with politics but they won't if you're on the left this why what is it about and even because they look after

themselves even people like the sun the mail on sund Sunday and people like that, they won't go after them either. There might be a little bit about it. Well, The Sun endorsed Labour. I mean, my former newspaper, I'm ashamed of them. They endorsed this madness. There is no discussion about, there is no equitability and objectivity in the mainstream media about covering any of this and i don't and it's not just this it's it's about that whole democratic deficit that this that exists in this government um you know that hypocrisy that those lies the before and after the election um it's a contrast, if you like, the hypocrisy, the lies that we're still seeing.

It should be, if it was a Conservative government, it would be, you're quite right, it would be headline news on all the newspapers, and it's not. And, you know, back to Tommy Robinson and the political angle of that. And I, you know, all we can do is do what we're doing, I think, Dan, and is keep talking about it. We cannot let this slide.

And the problem is it's like the boiled frog thing. I mean, it's a rather horrible analogy, and I would never boil a frog. But, you know, sort of legend has it that if you put a frog in cold water and you heat the water up um it it will boil alive but if you put the the frog in the boiling water straight away it would leap out of course it would but it gets it adapts to the worsening situation and humans are like that we get used to the appalling situation around us and it gets gradually more worse and worse and worse and worse and we are like that boiled frog we are we we we adapt to it we put up with it we

complain about it but in a very british way we just kind of okay it is what it is we you know just get on with life and we let these people get away with it um we've got to stop doing that now it is a conundrum as to how, when the media is not, mainstream media is not on our side and the authorities are on the side of this Labour Party. I don't quite know how we do it because I'm not an advocate of civil unrest. Absolutely, I'm not. But we have to win through in another way. Absolutely. Well, one way that people can do that, of course, with you, Henry Bolton, is by following you on X or your brilliant Bolton's blog on Substack, which I am subscribed to. Thank you so much for your company today. What a brilliant guest.

Please come back to Outspoken very, very soon. Henry Bolton, of course, former national politician, political leader and Brexit campaigner, also previously British Army captain, police officer and international diplomat. Oh, and the former leader of UKIP too. So we've covered it all today. Now, this is the exciting time of the week. Who is the worst Britain in the world. But first, just a little bit of feedback from you. This is via YouTube. Barry Campbell writes, Stammer this week, every week until the ejector seat button is pressed, if not him, take your worst pick from any of the Labour front bench. And Practical Joker 1099 on YouTube posted, I think putting UK troops on the ground when no

formal peace agreement has been reached between Ukraine and Russia puts Sir Dre Stalmer, that's a new one, up for the award. Like all his other cleverly thought out ideas, this one is doomed for failure. And BMF, sorry, Trooper5454, also on YouTube, writes, Ed Davey is barely relevant. That man calling Trump a bully is nearly as funny as Starmer thinking Britain should be at the Ukraine peace talks. Both are saying this so they can feel important. And of course, that brings us to the nominees for this week. is we take the four people who you have voted to be Union jackass Monday to Thursday, and they go head to head to be named the worst Britain in the world this week. So our nominees from Monday, the Euro leaders, Starmer, Schultz and Macron.

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