Dan Wootton Outspoken - SICK STARMER CONSPIRACY TO COVER UP TRUTH ABOUT MANDELSON OVER MCSWEENEY STOLEN PHONE LIE

Episode Date: March 25, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Slippery Starmer is engaging in a cross-government and police conspiracy to cover up the truth about his appalling appointment of Jeffrey Epstein’s best friend Peter Mandelson to be the US ambassador, yet you won’t have heard a peep about it on the British Bashing Corporation, Woke ITV or Sly News. But Two Tier Keir’s ex-most senior aide Morgan McSweeney’s claim that his phone was stolen but the police did nothing about it is unravelling, as it emerges he gave cops the wrong address during a suspicious phone call. Senior Cabinet ministers have been openly lying about the date of when the phone was apparently stolen as Starmer uses the Rebekah Vardy excuse. And in PMQs today all eight Reform UK MPs stormed out of the chamber after Starmer refused yet again to answer questions. In his Digest, Dan reveals how this is a cover up on a whole other level to Cakegate or Currygate or any other non-scandal in recent years that should finish Starmer. Then analysis from the Superstar Panel: Calvin Robinson – co-host of Reclaim the Media’s Fox and Father, Emma Kenny – the woman behind Britain’s top YouTube true cume channel Emma Kenny True Crime, and commentator Paul Cox – whose spicy YouTube channel can be found at Paul Cox Comedy. PLUS: A live on air fight on Talk Sport as Simon Jordan defends John Terry’s right to back Restore Britain leader Rupert Lowe over the burka ban without losing his football manager dream. AND: Fawlty Towers legend John Cleese has been red pilled over Islam – and it’s a joy to watch the leftist elites like Medhi Hasan, who thought he was on their side, lose their minds. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Tina Brown issues a stark warning to the Royal Family over the threat of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, as more shocking revelations from Tom Bower’s book including the Fake Duchess secretly hating Africa. Royal YouTube sensation P-Dina is here for all the latest. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Many promotions are available both in-store and online, though some may vary. No spend, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 454. And breaking right now, Slippery Stama is engaging in a cross-government and police conspiracy to cover up the truth about his appalling appointment of Jeffrey Epstein's best friend Peter Mandelson to be the US ambassador. Yet you won't have heard a peep about this on the British Bashing Corporation, woke eye TV or sly news. But as we come on air today, Two-Tare Care's ex-most senior aide, McSweeney's claim that his phone was stolen, but the police did nothing about it, is unraveling.

As it emerges, he gave cops the wrong address during a suspicious phone call, then refused to pick up the phone to them the next day, twice. We've exclusively recreated the key moments of that call. Police, what's your emergency? Oh, hello. Someone just robbed my phone. Did they actually take it from you just now? Yeah. How did they get away?

So he's on a bike. He's come onto the pavement to grab. my phone and cycled off on a bike. Meanwhile, senior cabinet ministers have been openly lying about the date when the phone was apparently stolen as Stama uses the old Rebecca Vardi excuse. So a lot of people are saying that can't be true. Definitely categorically is not true.

It's very convenient. It's all very Rebecca Vardy. Oh, I've lost my phone in the sea. Very unfortunate. As I understand it, that was a theft that was reported months before the whole mantle situation back up. And he couldn't at that stage have known that Parliament would ask for the publication of all messages in the way that they have in quite an unprecedented way. In PMQs today,

all eight Reform UK MPs stormed out of the chamber after Stama refused yet again to answer questions. I wonder what a director of public prosecutions would make of the defence, Sorry, I can't produce my WhatsApps, my phone's been stolen. Smash the Gangs has been a total abject failure, along frankly with most of his other policies. But isn't it now time, he told us, as summer approaches, what is plan B? I see reform of work walked out,

they obviously realise they're absolutely snooped. I mean, we're just furious, it's ridiculous. Nigel asked a very serious question about something of great concern. So in my digest next, I will reveal how this is a scandal and a cover-up on a whole other level to Kategate or Currygate or any of those other non-scandals in recent years. And this should probably finish slippery star, although it won't. Then analysis from my superstar panel, Calvin Robinson, father Calvin Robinson co-host of Reclaim the Media's Fox and father. Emma Kenny, the woman behind Britain's top YouTube true crime channel Emma Kenny.

TV and joining us for the first time today. The commentator Paul Cox, whose spicy YouTube channel can be found at Paul Cox Comedy. Also coming up on the show today, a live on air fight on talk sport as Simon Jordan defends John Terry's right to back restore Britain leader Rupert Lowe over the Berkaban without losing his football manager dream. Fulte Towers legend John Cleese has been red-pilled over Islam and it's a joy to watch the leftist elites like Medi Hassan who thought he was on their side lose their minds. And BBC Pido, Hugh Edwards, launches a comeback plot after a shocking Channel 5 drama starting Martin Clune's reveals really extraordinary new details about the newsreaders' double life. Then we're going to move over to South Stack for the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow as Tina Brown

Issues a stark warning to the royal family over the threat of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle as more shocking revelations from Tom Bowers' book emerge, including the fake Duchess secretly hating Africa. She certainly lied to Harry about that one. Royal YouTube Sensation P-Diner will be here with all of the latest. You can sign up to watch at www.outspoken.live. Now, my brilliant superstar panellists have also been nominating for today's Union Jackass. That means thou going head to head today

Emma has gone for Hugh Edwards for this comeback attempt. Paul Cox has gone for Morgan McSweeney for having his phone stolen, stolen and inverted commas. And Father Calvin Robertson has gone for Crispin Blunt, the former Conservative MP who has suggested today that all drugs should be legal after he admitted four narcotics charges, including possession of crystal meth. He also said that he used chem sex parties to inform government. drug policy. Anything to avoid a longer sentence, I guess. So get voting. Keep your comments coming

through during the show. I will read out the best before we go today. But now, let's go. Slippery Stama is engaging in a cross-government and police cover-up of the most shocking proportions. And by the way, I'm not talking about the hair topper perched these days on Stama's head, Although I would say the fact he is now even covering up his bald spot with a hairpiece proves that this is a man slimier than the hagfish. You know, the hagfish widely considered the slimyest animal on earth? This is how Queen Natalie imagines our dear leader might look without the hairpiece, by the way. But Starma is being exposed in many ways because there is a huge cover-up going on, involving the Prime Minister of our country, his most senior. aid until recently, and Jeffrey Epstein's best friend, Peter Mandelson. Yet you probably won't have

heard a peep about this on the British Bashing Corporation, Wokai TV or Sly News. And despite being on the ropes at PMQ's, resulting in this iconic picture for all the wrong reasons this afternoon, you won't have heard about it there either, because Kemi Badernaut ridiculously raised this growing scandal for just 14 seconds. Because the Prime Minister loves to hide behind legal process. I wonder what a director of public prosecutions would make of the defence, sorry, I can't produce my WhatsApps, my phone's been stolen. But this is a cover-up on a whole other level to Kate Gate or Curry Gate or any other non-scandal

in recent years that has resulted in mainstream media obsession, hour of hour, day after day, week after week. Because the supposedly stolen phone of Morgan McSweeney, until recently the most senior political aid in the United Kingdom, without apparently any backup of his WhatsApp, meaning the incriminating messages about what this government knew about Jeffrey Epstein's relationship with Peter Mandelson before he was appointed U.S. ambassador under Donald Trump may well be lost forever. Now, we must not forget that Stama told the House of Commons on the 10th of September, that full due process was followed

during the Mandelson appointment. Yet if the communication between McSweeney and Mandelson has not been officially recorded centrally, then that is a direct abuse of due process. Even Labour columnist Dan Hodges now admits that this was, a straight, forward lie. But the lies here are now so consistent and so appalling that it is impossible to believe a word that this government says. And in any democracy, that is a gravely chilling development. For example, on Sunday morning, Cabinet Minister Steve Reid told LBC's Lewis Goodall that the phone had been stolen months before the situation with Mandelson came to the fore.

Morgan McSweeney's phone has disappeared with many of his messages to Lord Mandelson on it and no backup exists. You do understand why many people will find that very convenient. Well, as I understand it, that was a theft that was reported months before the whole mantle

situation even began. No backup. Prime Minister's Chief of Staff has no backup of his messages. Well, I don't know what he does or doesn't have in terms of backups. Doesn't seem ideal, does it? But his phone was stolen. He reported it at the time,

was well in advance of anything happening around the Mandelson situation. I remember when Boris Johnson's phone, all the WhatsApp mysteriously disappeared on that. I remember Labour, shadow ministers being pretty incredulous. Yes. And that happened after he had been required to provide it. Morgan reported the theft of his phone months. I think it was maybe even over a year before the whole situation arose. So there's no comparison. Every damn word, Reid said there was a lie.

Hodges added, we were specifically told by, read on Sunday. The theft predated the issues related to Mandelson. I'm going to say it again. This is a blatant cover-up and ministers from the prime minister down are openly lying about it. I mean, this is what the spectator's political editor Tim Shipman wrote last month. McSweeney's phone was reported stolen on October the 20th. The Commons rose for the conference recess not returning until the 13th of October. Over that period, a team of advisors and officials from the office, the Labor Whips Office, and the office of the leader of the House prepared in case the Tories used their first opposition day after the recess to submit a humble address motion seeking

disclosure of all the email and WhatsApp exchanges covering Mandelson's appointment and his resignation. Those involved told colleagues, remember this is just before the phone was stolen. If the Tories pass a humble address motion, Morgan is fucked. So he knew. He knew he was fucked. And then his... His phone was just miraculously stolen. And now he's using the Rebecca Vadi bottom of the North Sea excuse to cover up what I believe was very obviously corruption. As Hodges been moaned in the mail, thanks to the latest revelation, we now know the country

is not being governed by the new Richard Nixon. It's being governed by the new Rebecca Vadi. Four years ago at the height of the infamous Wagatha Christie libel trial, the higher court was shocked to learn a key piece of evidence had mysteriously been miscarriage. placed. The mobile phone, owned by Vardy's agent, reportedly possessing a number of key exchanges relating to her feud with fellow Wag, Colleen Rooney, had inadvertently been dropped into the North Sea. A most unfortunate occurrence, as Rooney's lawyers observed. The spectacle of Kirstama, using the Rebecca Vadi excuse to pull the wool over the eyes of the British people, is a

national embarrassment. One that is as much an insult to his intelligence. as it is to ours. But this is what's happening and this is the line that the government has been going with as even the political latest of the Times acknowledged here. A whole trance of WhatsApp messages

are missing and will never be recovered. The phone was stolen in about October. So a lot of people are saying that can't be true. Definitely categorically is not true. It's very convenient. It's very all very Rebecca Vardi, oh, I've lost my phone in the sea. It's very unfortunate. I've got a bit of an insight into what

happened and I will just relay it to listeners and they can take their own opinion. So this is what I was told that he'd been for dinner, this was in October, and he was walking along, looking at his phone, catching up on messages, and someone came by, I think it was on a bike, and they grabbed the phone out of his hand and pegged it. And he could well be, but I'm not sure he'd be that quick. He gave Chase, obviously didn't manage to get the phone, didn't manage to get the phone at all. So he called the police. The police were two. too busy to actually go investigate and find out what happened to this phone. Now, this phone matters, I would say, more than any other phone in government.

If you want the skeletons, if you want everything, Morgan McSweeney was the second most powerful man in the country at that point. He's got them. It's got the messages to Mandelson, the messages to Cabinet Ministers, the messages to Starma. It should have been an object of national security. I am told that police did not come around to talk to him, did not conduct any investigation. They just gave him a crime reference number. Off you go.

But now the story gets even more murky. That was another lie. Because Labour tried to claim that the cops had just been too busy to investigate the phone theft, like they are, by the way, with most mere mortals, like me when I've been mugged in London. Yet the Mets say they tried to contact McSweeney twice about the phone after he,

his call without success. And today, after Dan Hodges said the matter now directly implicated in this scandal, they released a verbatim transcript of the phone call. And this closes so many problems and it should be leading every single news bulletin in the country because in the call McSweeney fails to disclose. He is the country's most important political advisor, meaning the situation quite clearly needs to be escalated. But more than that, he seems to deliberately mislead the call handler about where the burglary took place. And then when she says that he's at another location, rather than saying, no, that's not where I am, he nods along and says yes. So through our exclusive recreation based on the police transcript, you can listen to.

to what went down on the call. Watch this. Police, what's your emergency? Oh, hello. Someone just robbed my phone. Did they actually take it from you just now? Yeah. How did they get away? So he's on a bike. He's come onto the pavement to grab my phone and cycled off on a bike. And where did this happen?

It happened in Belgrave Street in Westminster. And whose phone are you using now? I've got two phones. I'm using my personal one. That was my work one. Thank you. And you said Belgrave Street, yeah? Um, yeah, just kind of going back to the location. And which way did they go towards this suspect on a bike?

He went, he travels north, I saw him for a few blocks. So where were you when you last saw him? Have you got any idea? Um, yeah, so... Did you get up to Stepney? Let me tell you where I got to. I'm just going back to where I can. So he turned right, sorry, he turned left, there's a park on top of the road and he turned left there. Stepney Green Park, okay. Yeah, he turned left there.

Can you remember anything about his appearance? Yeah, he was young, he was a black guy, he was on a bike. Have you got a tracker on the phone at all? I do. It's a government phone. And it's your work phone. What kind of phone is it? It's an iPhone. Okay, now there is so much that is too dodgy about that call to be considered a coincidence. The incident actually took place in Belgrave,

road in Westminster. Yet McSweeney said Bell Graves Street. Now, you could say that was an innocent mistake in the heat of the moment. But when the call handler was quite clearly looking in the wrong area and mentioned Stepney, which is miles and miles away in East London, at that point, McSweeney needed to step in. But he never did. He never corrected the call handler. and even mainstream media outlets like Andrew Neal are picking up on this, writing it's almost as if McSweeney deliberately misleading the call handler to so confusion, says Belgrave Street, not road. When call handler thinks it's Belgrave Street in the East End and mentions Stepney, McSweeney does not correct the handler. Indeed, he then confirms the thief, turning at Stepney Green Park, when the handler mentions that, knowing full well, that couldn't be true. But then there's the next scandal, because none of this explains why the messages are not available anyway.

It is the law that all government business done on WhatsApp must be forwarded to appropriate officials for backup. Here's the evidence of that law. That, by the way, is even if your hardware is stolen. And anyone who uses WhatsApp knows how easily your material can be recovered to another device. I mean, if we just look in here at how WhatsApp is automatically set up, you'll see it says you can back up to iCloud. So if you switch to a new iPhone, you can safely restore your chat history. but auto backup is automatically turned on. And end-to-end encryption is automatically turned off.

So what this suggests is that McSweeney at some point before his phone was stolen, turned off the auto backup. Now, I know this might all feel like we're quite down into the weeds here, but it matters because this is an essential. astonishing cover-up to try and keep Slippery Stama in power. McSweeney-en-en-en-wee-Wes-Streetine admitted this morning that he uses disappearing messages. Watch this. Do you have disappearing messages on your WhatsApp?

Do you send your messages to the department as per the rules for government ministers? Yes, I do have disappearing messages. I also routinely make sure that, when I'm getting incoming from people, whether it's a member of parliament asking me to look into something or whether it's someone contacting me about something that's health and social care related, that I then relay that to and through the Department of Health and Social Care. We also publish transparency returns in terms of the meetings that we have, including meetings with journalists.

There are standards of transparency and accountability. Those things matter. But that answer posed many, many problems. What happened in Morgan McSweeney's case? Because his phone, very, very senior member of the government team, his phone was stolen, it was unlocked. The police failed to investigate, of course.

But there is a concern. None of his messages were backed up. That's against the rules. Can you confirm that there's an investigation into how that happened and to ensure that no one else is in that situation currently? Well, I suspect that off the back of this, there will be a reiteration of the expectations on ministers, special advisors and officials so that people are clear on the rules and expectations. People will want to tighten up on those fronts inevitably.

as for Morgan McSweeney's individual case, those are questions for him to answer. I would just say, and I can totally understand the cynicism in these sorts of cases, do bear in mind that when his phone was stolen, it was reported to the police at the time, and he couldn't at that stage have known that Parliament would ask for the publication of all messages in the way that they have in quite an unprecedented way. And so, yes, sometimes in politics, things can be explained as a result of conspiracy in other times.

More often than not, it is a result of cock-up rather than conspiracy. Again, you are lying. That is not true. It was a week before. And the government did know. So this is a conspiracy, a conspiracy to cover up. Of that, I have absolutely zero doubt.

As ex-story, Cabinet Minister James cleverly raged, the rules don't need to be tightened up. The rules are clear. I would screenshot messages and post them onto my ministerial private office group chat multiple times a day. It made sure that actions weren't missed and that my ass was covered. Where are the McSweeney messages? Another ex-Tory Minister, Tom Tuganhart. This is a remarkable claim, suggesting a serious security breach and no follow on actions by police officers. former chancellor and now reform defector, Nadim Zahari, went even further.

This is a huge cover-up. There is no way in the world that the chief of staff to the PM would have his phone stolen, presumably with an ability to track location and is treated in this way. Security and Intelligence Committee needs to get involved and bring everyone involved as a witness. Where is the cabinet secretariat? This is a massive breach of national security. and somehow nonchalantly the police do nothing. And top barrister, Stephen Barrett, even more infuriated, posting,

it's not bizarre, it is a lie. They met police, the Labour Party, are lying through their teeth to protect the worst prime minister ever. I look forward to the coming trials. Now, I give credit to Dan Hodges, who unlike his other Westminster colleagues, knows the significance of this story. He has added today, I've now spoken to two former government spads. Both were senior, both lost their government phones. In both cases, their first approach was to the government internal security services,

who then broke it a liaison with the MET to ensure the issue was dealt with properly. I'm still trying to get around the fact that in 72 hours, we've gone from, he lost his phone a year before the Mandelson scandal broke, to, okay, he actually lost his phone a week after we strategised how to deal with Parliament trying to get his Mandelson Mell. messages. There's been some confusion about this and some attempt to muddy the waters by number 10. So to be crystal clear, all the messages on McSweeney's mobile phone have gone. There was no backup. Now, there was another extraordinary exchange between Wes Streeting and the MSM today.

This one more significant because it was on Good Morning Britain, where he was quizzed by Ed Balls. Ed Balls, who is, of course, the husband of another cabinet minister, Evette Cooper. And he pulled up West Streeting on the truth. Watch. I do trust the account, actually, the Morgan McSweeney's phone was stolen for a couple of reasons. One is that it was reported to the police at the time. I think there's a separate set of questions as to why this wasn't dealt with, given that it was a phone of a senior government official that would have contained sensitive information.

I suspect many people watching who've had their phone nicked will not be remotely surprised that police haven't done anything because that's been their experience too. But it is serious that something that will have contained sensitive information wasn't properly investigated. I would just point out that when that phone was stolen, Morgan McSweeney couldn't have known or predicted that Parliament, in a quite unprecedented move,

would ask for the release of all communications in the way that Parliament understandably did. And look, one of the things... Are you sure about that West Streeting? I remember in September an expectation that the Conservatives would be coming to Parliament in October and asking for that kind of information to be revealed. There was highly speculated about at the time. In fact, what happened was the Conservatives got diverted onto a big investigation to Chinese spies

and it only happened a few months later. But look, it was quite convenient for Morgan McSweeney that his phone was reported because he can now say it was reported, but it was also massively convenient that it happened to disappear just at the point when at the time people were expecting that information to be asked for by the opposition. Now, this cover-up is continuing.

Today, Robert Peston, reporting that Downing Street is refusing to say where the Morgan McSweeney's Wapsack exchanges with Mandelson were lost. I think it was Mark Thompson. who perhaps summed up the absurdity of all of this best, asking, is this plausible? I am Morgan McSweeney. I am Chief of Staff to the Prime Minister in Great Britain of Great Britain Northern Ireland. I hold a top secret security clearance. I own a mobile phone. I use this phone

to conduct government business. I use this phone to message with Lord Mandelson. My phone is tracked by GCHQ. There are protocols for officials using personal phones to conduct government business. My communications are monitored to ensure they are not intercepted. My phone is stolen, a month after Lord Mandelson is sacked. The police do not investigate. The phone is not tracked down. The police are too busy to track down the phone the most senior member of the Prime Minister's team, someone with a top-level security clearance. I do not contact my service provider to block the stolen phone. I do not consider asking GCHQ to do this as a national security priority. I do not ask for a replacement SIM. I do not buy a new phone. I do not activate my new phone with the new SIM. I do not

log into my Google account. I do not select restore. I do not download WhatsApp. I do not recover my messages. Nobody ever who had their phone stolen was ever able to get their messages back. Do you think we are all stupid? It is the cover up that will take. you down. So no wonder Number 10 Downing Street has been left so desperate that they actually posted this video of the whole of Stama's cabinet looking like they are in a deep depression on Stama's TikTok account because this is a government reaching its end of day's moment. Indeed, PMQ's turned into a farce again today as slippery Stama refused to ask, virtually answer any question.

Smash the gangs. That is what the Prime Minister promised us. Trust me, I will stop the boats from coming. But 70,000 later and 1,000 in the last week and too many young men that pose a threat to national security. Is it not time to admit? Smash the gangs has been a total abject failure along, frankly, with most of his other policies.

But isn't it now time he told us, As summer approaches, what is plan B? Mr. Speaker, this is from the man of the party that voted against giving law enforcement, counter-terrorism-style powers to tackle that. So he wants the grievance, he doesn't want it sorted. He has absolutely no judgment. He again said, let's join the war, let's all go to war. I want to make it perfectly clear he wants the war.

A week later, screeching U-turn, we don't want to go to war. And he says, trust his judgment. Mr. Speaker, it's hard to take anything he says seriously. He promised lower tax and now reformed councils are hiking council tax by 9%. In Worcestershire, this is what he said about Worcestershire. He said, we took control of a virtually bankrupt council. I wish we hadn't bothered. He asked for people's votes and then he abandons them.

Reform don't want to solve problems, they only want to exploit them. I am thankful for the opportunity to change this colour. for the better. He says he wish he hadn't bothered winning councils because they're an absolute disgrace. That prompted all eight Reform UK MPs to storm out of the chamber. As soon as possible so my constituents can enjoy the snooker. Mr Speaker, I see Reform of Works walked out, they obviously realise they're absolutely snookered. Mr Speaker. Oh, I mean we're just furious, it's ridiculous. Nigel Arsday very, very much.

Nigel asked a very serious question about something that have great concern to tens of millions of British citizens about the fact that they're smashing the gang's policy for the illegal migrants has completely failed, 70,000 people, and the Prime Minister is banging on about the war and councils. I mean, there's no dinghies and boats in Staffordshire, for heaven's take, Prime Minister. They're coming across the English Channel. We're sick of it. It's the second time in a row the Prime Minister has refused to ask a question. The whole point is, you know, the clues in the name, it's called Prime Minister's questions. He has to answer our questions, not the other way around.

And the speaker, frankly, needs to sort something out because this is becoming a farce. The entire premiership of two-tier care slippery stammer will go down as a farce of historic proportions. Now, the superstar panel. Paul Cox, Emma Kenny and Father Calvin Robinson with me. Father Calvin, this is a cover-up, isn't it? It's quite obviously a cover-up. It's not a very good one either. I used to be a school teacher before I did all of this,

and it's a kind of excuse I'd hear from one of my teenage pupils that, where's your homework? Oh, you know what? My iPad got stolen, and somehow none of the work was backed up. I can't recover anything. It's all gone for good. Oh, well, we wouldn't buy it for a second, and nor should we, as the British public, buy it from one of our politics.

It's shameful, actually, that his peers and contemporaries are letting him get away with this. They should be saying, come on me, this is not, you know, this is beneath us. Just log into your WhatsApp on your new phone, download your messages, and hand them over. It is always the cover-up that gets them. It is the lie that gets them. And it's quite transparent in this case. Because, Emmergeny, the thing is, if this were a politician on the right or a government on the right, you know, if we had been speaking about Boris Johnson or we were speaking about Nigel Farage,

they would not allow the government to operate until answers were delivered on this. But it's hardly been covered at all on the mainstream broadcasters in this country. It's as if they're in on it with Stama. It does feel like there's some kind of collusion because it feels as if since Starmor has got in, he's lied repeatedly about situations and he's been found out repeatedly, and yet there have been very few consequences, if any. And I think that what Calvin was just saying there is entirely true. It speaks of something far greater than just them being unwilling to come forth with these text messages, these WhatsApp messages.

It speaks of something incredibly rotten within government. It speaks of something dark within those individuals who are hoarding this information and keeping it from the British public. And of course, if it had been on the other side, there would have been demands. But like I said, it's speaking to something entirely rotten. And I think sometimes you look at the theatre with. government and it feels comical, but this is not funny at all. This is covering up things that are absolutely disgraceful, disgusting, dangerous and deeply problematic at the core, not just of politics, but of society. So absolutely, there would be calls for these to be brought forward. And I'm

surprised they haven't just got a forensic analysis of this phone. Yes, it's challenging to do that, but in murder cases we do it, why can't we do it here? Well, indeed. I mean, Paul Cox, I had great to have you, by the way, on Alts spoken for the first time. A real pleasure. And I had Mike Graham on the show yesterday. Now, you remember he was sort of let go or sacked or however you want to put it by Talk TV because they claimed that he had posted something on his phone that he says he didn't post. And he said all of these forensics are easily available. If you want to get these messages, you can get. these messages. And it is very clear that this government does not want these messages to emerge at any cost. Yes, they are acting with entire impunity. I agree with the rest of the panel. This is now got beyond a point of just your day-to-day shenanigans that happens within the Houses of Parliament. This is treachery as far as I'm concerned because these people are acting with complete and utter detachment from their responsibility to the UK.

public, not just their voters, absolutely everybody else. As Emma pointed out, this isn't just some sort of small crime. This crime underpins a much bigger crime, and that is the Mandelson association with the biggest paedophile this world has known in recent times. And this in itself should absolutely, absolutely bring down Kirstama. He should have gone a long time ago. The fact he's not gone and the fact that he hasn't gone yet, and it doesn't look like he's going to go just any time soon, says to me that everybody, everybody is complicit in this. And I mean that. I mean, the Met Office, the Secret Service, there's no way that Morgan McSweeney would ring 999 or 101 or 111 or whatever it is. He would immediately ring the Prime Minister's

office and say the most important phone I have has just been stolen from me. Unless, unless he did that and then a little plan was hatched. Oh, we know the Metropolitan Police don't investigate anyone who has their phone nicked. It's broken Britain after all. Just don't tell them who you are. Just ring it up like a run-of-the-mill human being. This stinks. And I completely agree with Paul Cox.

If there was any justice, slippery starboard would be gone as a result of this. But the problem is I have no faith in the mainstream media who still seem to dominate conversation out of Westminster to actually acknowledge the true horror of what's happened here. The mainstream media continue to obsess over the totally wrong subjects. And I think no example of this has been greater this week than the total hysterical witch hunt against John Terry, a footballing legend. who I really like, by the way, given he simply decided to back

Rupert Lowe's Restore Brisson on Instagram with a couple of posts. Now, can we just think for one moment of the hard lefters who operate in the football space and the football broadcasting and managerial space and say the most wild and extreme things from Ian Wright to Gary Linneker to Gary Neville? I mean, literally we had Neville.

saying that the Union Jack should be torn down. We had Gary Lineker describing Zionists as rats. That's all fine. But John Terry deciding to back Rupert Lowe. That's the red line for our sporting mainstream media. And there was actually only one voice of sanity on this over the past 24 hours, and I start to think that Simon Jordan is one of the only sane, non-woke sports broadcasters left in the United Kingdom. And he had a fascinating live on-air fight with his co-host Jim White. And I do just want to show you, first of all, how Jim White actually set up this story, because I think you need to look at it in context to understand the total bias, actually, because it's quite clear that Jim White thinks that John Terry

has pretty much ended his career as a manager for endorsing Lowe. Your view in this, Simon, I'm pretty damn sure I'm going to get it. John Terry liked to post from Rupert Lowe, and this over the weekend has very much split opinion. Rupert Lowe, who is Rupert Lowe? He's the former chairman of Southampton. Rupert Lowe these days is an independent member of parliament and founder of Restore Britain. Now Lowe's post pictured a London tube station, Whitechapel, which has its name translated into Bengali alongside the English name.

Now if you're watching on YouTube, watching on telly this morning, you'll see this. We're illustrating it as we go here. And Rupert Lowe then makes the comment. and if you're watching essay, you'll be able to read it at the moment. The picture was taken in London. Restore Britain would ban the burqa, and restore Britain would ensure that all London stations use English. Enough is enough.

Vote to restore Britain to get our capital city back. Now, that's one thing. But John Terry then jumped in and seemingly endorsed that post by commenting with three applauding emojis and the national flag of England. having done that, John then deleted what he endorsed. Now, the Athletic posted on Twitter, John Terry has appeared to endorse a UK politician's social media post

that advocates for a nationwide ban on the burqa before deleting his comment. The former England captain is still involved in football and has been in an academy coaching consultancy role with Chelsea since 2021, working in a part-time capacity that involves mentoring academy. players. Okay, so you see what that's all about. You see where whites go in there. Oh, mentoring academy plays. No, a Rupert Lowe supporter shouldn't be able to do that. We're not talking about a pedophile, a BBC pedophile here. We're talking about someone supporting a registered political party for God's sake. So thank God for Simon Jordan, who immediately fired up at the MSM coverage

of the posts, which were not taking into account the madness of the story that John Terry was actually commenting on. Well, he probably should have thought twice if he could have worked out that the athletic were going to make some idiotic association with the fact that because you liked one verse, something that someone said, you like everything they said. So the fact that he particularly agreed, which by the way I do agree with, that renaming English buildings or locations

in other languages outrageous it wouldn't be done anywhere else in the world and I don't know why it has to be done in our country and liking that and agreeing with that doesn't then leap into the fact that he then agrees with every other thing that Rupert Lowe says and to suggest that John Terry has subsequently got into bed with banning the Burker

I mean it's just nonsense because that's one version of what that's one instance of what Rupert Lowe has said and it's not everything that necessarily we put low does or doesn't stand for. So I don't understand the point of this. It's just gotcha. The motivation of the MSM, though,

is to try and paint John Terry as racist. It's because it's John Terry, and because John Terry's had situations in his past where you're making this association, this has nothing to do. John's allowed to have an opinion, he's allowed to agree with an individual opinion of someone else, not the entire gambit of all his opinions,

But we are, the media are making this assertion. We're saying that because Rupert Lowe said this over here, that over here, the point that John's, there's no reference in this tweet to Burkers, nothing to do with that. He's applauding the tweet. And then the tweet, Logers on about Restore Britain would ban the burqa.

John's applauding it. Do you build a picture in your mind of where John's political leanings go? And then months after that, A big job in management comes up and you're interviewing John Terry. Do you allow that to sit into your mind when you're doing the interview? Who cares? I mean, are we seriously in a country now?

Where someone cannot support a political party with a brilliant MP and be a football manager? My God. Simon Jordan wasn't taking that, though. That's not racism. It's an alternate view. And you're allowed to have it. And because we live in this stupid binary world where if you don't agree, with something, you're a racist or a misogynist, you're an Islamophobe, you're whatever people

want to do to try and discredit your argument. I don't, I'm not comfortable running around London seeing train stations being renamed in Bengali. I don't know what it needs to be done. No one else in the world does this. Well, the bilingual signs were formally installed in March 22. They've been around for a while. This is not bilinguality. To coincide with Bangladesh Independence Day. This is not bilinguality. So getting back to my original question time. Bilinguality's got nothing to do, but you're renaming place names in this country. That's not bilingual what it's next to it. But should personal or political beliefs go as far as to preclude you from your roles in football,

you would say in this instance, regards Terry and like the host. To the superstar panel, Father Calvin Robinson, Emma Kenny, Paul Cox. Paul, I mean, can you believe the tone and the tenor of that conversation? It is very apparent to me, having watched the whole thing, that Jim White was basically suggesting that John Terry should be excluded. from all football managerial roles. Well, like I say, sadly, I can believe it. This has been the convention now for many, many years.

What is happening, though, Dan, as we're All Testament too, is that the changing of the guards is taking place. It's a slow change. And when the reckoning happens, and by the reckoning, I mean that we have hopefully a right-leaning government in place in the next three to five years, then the rest of the public will be able to see it's left and right, not left and wrong, and that there are alternative views out there. John Terry is a lad that comes

from the East End of London. He would have seen even in his 40 years a massive change. I've got family that were born in the East End of London in the 1910s are sadly obviously no longer with us, but the stories that I used to tell about how quickly the change happened in the 50s, 60s and 70s. It took people by surprised. People can still remember how things were and they're allowed to have nostalgia for those days. The idea that we can simply just change everything for some political ideology that most of us never signed up for is utterly ridiculous. And then to hold John Terry accountable for that, because it just in a moment of weakness it would appear, John Terry, in his position, like to tweet, sorry, an Instagram post from Rupert Lowe is also

ridiculous. Yeah, totally. But what's weird to me is that football, which Used to be the sport that most represented the working classes. At least the management of football are now most out of touch because Alex Marman has just sent in a very good super chat actually and said note the backlash Ipswich Town have received just following Nigel Farage to pose with their shirt at their home stadium too. Starman ever had the same backlash when posing with an Arsenal shirt. And there are these double standards that pervade these discussions

Emma? Well, there are double standards always in life, but yeah, when it comes down to politics, you're only allowed one view, and if you dare to espouse any other view, obviously you're going to be criticised heavily. I mean, it comes down to a ridiculous scenario when you can like a tweet that basically says that they'd ban the burqa. Well, Belgium and France and Denmark amongst many countries have banned the burqa, and we're now accusing them of just being completely racist. Is it not okay to like the fact that they've done that? I would ban the burqa because I'm female and I don't think that I want to subjugate females and I really don't care if anybody else out there disagrees with me because I'm English. So therefore, my cultural values

are very distinct from those that say you have to wear things to be considered a decent human being. Also, I'd love to see women on the football pitch in Berkers because I'm imagining that would probably be a bit of an issue for the match. And the idea that you can say something or agree with something and that then means that you legitimately agree with every single thing that people have said, for example, I agree with some things that Nigel Farage says, I don't agree with lots that he says. That doesn't mean that I'm pro or against. It just means I'm a human being. You know what? This is absolutely astonishing with my own opinion. There you go. It's amazing. It's one of those things that human beings you used to have. It's your own opinion

as opposed to what does everyone else think? Is it okay to think that? What happens if I say that and then I get attacked? Well, you know what? It doesn't matter because if you are a cogent, autonomous human, have your own opinions, do your own work and grow a pair. Totally. But the thing is, Father Calvin, is my suspicion, is that Rupert Lowe probably, sorry, is that John Terry probably does agree with Rupert Lowe on most issues. He probably is a Restore Britain supporter. But what is so chilling and I think sinister about this coverage of his post is that it's sending

a message not just to him, Father Calvin. But to every footballing icon, every hero, if you express any of these views, we're going to come for you and we're going to come for you. And we're not just going to come for you and write lots of horrible things about you. We are going to try and make you unemployable. Because we are going to say to the football clubs who might be considering you for a role, how can you take on John Terry when your club supports diversity or rainbow. laces or whatever virtue signaling campaign they have felt forced into signing up to. And that's, I think, what's so shocking and horrifying for me about this. Who knows what John Terry would do? Probably Jim White is correct. He won't say anything about politics ever again. But for me, it's the chilling nature of the fact that it also silences lots of other people who probably do agree with Rupert Lowe, but would never say it. That's the point. I don't know John Terry, if I'm I don't really care about his political opinions, any way, shape or form.

However, what's happening here is they're trying to shape the culture. And so BBC and all the media are pushing down on this, and the football associations are pushing down on John Terry in order to say, this is an opinion that is not allowed. And it's a very weak argument. It's guilt by association, isn't it? He liked something that that guy liked. That guy is a bad guy.

We do not support that. It's unthinking as well. I think Emma is on the money there when she says, you're not allowed difference of opinion. because what's happened is political correctness evolved evolved rather into virtue signaling and that's what the woke ideology is it's a if you want to be a good person you subscribe to what we tell you makes a good person if you step outside of those bounds you are a bad person automatically if you like any of those people who are outside of those bounds you are also a bad person by guilt through association and therefore you will do what we say you will think what we say and you will say what we say and that is not a culture that i want to live in that is Marxism that is far less Leftism. It's evil. It's wicked and it's not very human. I like the idea of having different friends and knowing different people from different backgrounds who think different things. That used to be acceptable. We have to make it acceptable again. I think John Terry's only mistake

was deleting his retweet. He should have stood by it. And I like that. Is it Simon Jordan? I've seen him on your show before. I like that guy because he's like, well, no. I don't think it's right that we should rename street signs in England to Banglind Doche. Why should we? Father Calvin, do you know he is the partner of Jubes, Michelle Jubbery from G.B. NUbs. Jubes. Jubez and core. I've got to know that. Yes. And I think Paul, this is what's great about Simon Jordan. He doesn't need the gig. Do you know what I mean? This is a wealthy, successful man in his own right, who trust me, would be absolutely fine in the independent media space. And so he almost has a power that some other

people don't because he is able to go into talk sport and say, okay, I'm surrounded by all of these woke staff members, but I'm just going to say what I think, to hell with you. I love it. I know the left absolutely demonised billionaires and hate wealth and success in any way, but thank God for the independently wealthy like Simon Jordan and Ricky Javais and John Cleese, who will talk about later, because they are in a position where they cannot be cancelled. And that's the one thing we've all, the one thing we've all talked about here is the ability to cancel someone for wrong thing, for having the wrong idea. You can't cancel someone who is independently wealthy and isn't going to go away and is their own boss. So if they come out like Simon Jordan and say,

hang on a minute, what do you mean? This is utterly ridiculous. You're not supposed to just have one view. And by the way, the irony of a sports commentator saying you must only have one view. You can't differentiate between the different teams, for instance. They're always discriminating. They're discriminating against one player to another, one team to another, one country to another, within the boundaries of football. All we're doing here is having exactly the same discussion within the boundaries of politics and day-to-day life. It should be totally acceptable. Let's talk about John Cleese.

Let's talk about John Cleese now because he has been brilliantly red-pilled. and I'm all for it, especially as the leftists are completely up and arms because they don't know how to control this dude who, a bit like Ricky Jervais before him, is a comedy legend who is uncancellable, like he was behind Monty Python. He wrote and starred in Faulty Towers. That is a legacy that cannot be destroyed. And as we put Lowe, the leader of Restore Britain put it, comparing him to a not-so-national treasure in a world filled with Lenny Henry's B.A. John Cleese.

And I just want to show you quite how red-pilled John Cleese has been, because he's not holding back, okay, on the issue of Islam, especially after that display of Muslim domination in Trafalgar Square by London's failed Mayor Sidde Khan. And John Cleese did start by saying, sorry I have to say this. I don't really think he's sorry. But he said that anyway. Sorry I have to say this. The British do not like the kind of diversity that intends to take over Britain and kill any infidel that is not to convert to Islam. Is that hard to understand, silly little man?

He's also been going for the deputy leader of the Labour Party, Lucy Powell, spitting facts there, saying, She doesn't want to lose Labour votes, so she happily sells the rest of us down the river. And when he said, maybe if the Muslims stopped threatening to kill infidels, that would help, Medi Hassan, that hard-left British-American Islamist, posted, difficult to describe how insanely big is it. John Cleese has become just total far-right nuts. Red-pilled himself. Yeah, he did. He did, Medi. He woke up and he stopped listening to people like you.

And he stopped listening to the ludicrous people in byline times and hope not hate. And do you know what? I've had my run-ins with John Cleese over the years. I've also had my good moments with John Cleese over the years. But I am all for this wake-up moment. Now, you'll know that Sadiq Khan is trying to play the victim after what went down in Trafalgar Square, saying he's heartbroken about the backclash. in regards to it. And yet again, describing Islam as the religion of peace and accusing those criticizing the If-Tah takeover of racism. Watch. Everybody wants to dominate. This is a Christian country, but it's a source of pride that, you know, the Christians that I meet love their neighbor, their Muslim neighbor. And I'm disappointed that this is the, this year, these people have decided to criticize that If Thar or the square. And, you know,

Our religion is about submission, it's about peace. I began my speech with the greeting of peace. Asa al-a-Qu, may the peace and blessings of our creator be upon you. What can be more peaceful than that? And I think what this is is what we call dog whistle politics. I call it megaphone politics. They're going to the lowest common denominator. But I think British people are better than that.

I think British people are decent. British people love having diversity. Londoners love having diversity. Londoners have chosen me once and twice. for three times to be there, because I'd been a mayor for all Londoners. And as long as I'm mayor, Trevago Square, public square, will be open to everyone.

While John Cleese wasn't having that victim act from Khan, regarding fellow Muslims, posting, calm them down, you silly little man. They are not the ones who may get beheaded. Read the Quran to them. when James pointed out that a new poll finds 48% of Muslims living in Britain feel they don't belong in the UK

because of the rise of so-called Islamophobia pleas respond to the puzzle is why on earth did they decide to come here when there are 60 Muslim countries where their beliefs would fit in perfectly oh possibly the easy money but I do think it is worth pointing out here that Cleese is

prepared to offend all religions. You'll remember some of those famous life of Brian Skits Wright, which very much offended Christianity at the time. And as he says now, just add that criticism of a religion is a traditional British value. Criticism of Islam should be called Islamo-scepticism. As the Sussex phobia suggests an irrational fear, like a fear of spiders. or dogs. Some criticisms of Quran practices like child marriage, female genital mutilation, the duty to kill infidels and the stoning of women are definitely not irrational. To my superstar panel, Emma Kenny, Paul Cox and Father Calvin Robinson. So Father Calvin, he has been red-pilled on Islam. But trust me, this is a far better use of John Cleese's time.

than when he was in the pockets of the likes of Hugh Grant and the Liberal Democrat Party. Yeah, but I don't think we should get carried away because it is just a warrant issue waking up. There's so much facing our country. Yeah, he's got to take all the red pills all at once. But it's nice to see him gradually, you know, when he joined GB News, it was like,

which way is he going to go? Is he going to actually become conservative and protect the country? He was going to keep speaking these woke lines that he's given. And for a good while, he started to, change when they defaulted back because most celebrities want to be liked by other people and want to be liked by their circle

in the green room. So it makes sense for them to follow the byline times, but it's nice to see him taking a break from it. Yeah, Emma Kenny, what do you think about John Clee's being very public on this? I mean, it's certainly not like other celebrities who sort of creep out. I mean,

he's like exploded on this one. I guess part of it is as well that he's just realized that he was always a comedian, so he can use humor and sarcasm to express opinion. You can take him seriously. You don't need to take him seriously. But what it kind of again shows is that when you dare to speak about something that's just logical, for example, in Christianity we don't have a sishad, which is where basically you can become a martyr and end up in paradise, etc. We've kind of walked away from that on a Christianity

level. We do believe in loving thy neighbour and turning the other cheek. You know, it's kind of something that I really respect about my Christian faith. And right now, we are at a point where all the the things that we've talked about today are all about one thing, which is a closing down of other people's opinions and beliefs. You don't have to respect and enjoy those opinions and beliefs. You can just acknowledge they exist and they have a right to exist. And I'm tired of being told that if you espouse that opinion, you are basically then going to be responsible, for example, a whole minority feeling scared or afraid. No one actually thinks about the impact of other people's belief systems on, for example, the indigenous population in the UK, who also may be afraid because

of certain things. So I think for John Cleese to come out and just be honest and open, he'll probably like me and you agree with certain things that the right agree with, sometimes agree with certain things that the left agree with. But the reality is just say what you think, because for too long, people have stayed quiet, allowed this to fester, and now we're in a really bad position. So get brave with your opinions and stop being afraid because that's the only way we all close it down. That's how it changes. Well, that's inspiring, Emma. That's like a great wake-up call. I absolutely love that. And you're completely right, because Merri has to immediately say, oh, far right, far right, you know, and others are saying racist. Well, number

one, it's, it's not racism. Like, can I just correct that? Maybe you can call it Islamophobic. I really like John Cleese introducing this new term. I'm going to use that. Islamosceptic, because put me down as an Islamosceptic, okay? I'm there. I'm well and truly there. You know, I know that lots of young Muslims have been taught to push people like me off the top of buildings. So, yeah, I'm an Islamoskeptic, okay? I'm there. there. But I totally agree. Like, you can't just now say John Cleese is a far right nut job because actually lots of his views are totally on the left. Now, Paul Cox, very interested to know what you think about this, because obviously you are a comedian who has been brave with your views from

early in your career, which I presume has got you cancelled from a lot. So I'd be quite fortunate on that. Doing sort of this type of media on a very regular basis now for a about. about four years. Like you're not going to be booked for SNL UK. Do you know what I mean? I'm not going to be booked for S&LUK. Absolutely not. I mean,

I'm probably about 20 years too old, to be fair. But other than that, I don't share any of their views. I mean, I wish them well, get on with it. I hope it goes all right for them. But at the end of the day, I tell you where I know this is still a capitalist country, I run and own comedy clubs. Therefore, I book comedians.

So all of a sudden, the people who do have a view of me, keep it to themselves because they still want to be booked. Oh my God, do you? I love that, Paul. I didn't know that. Okay, and do you book comedians from like right across the political spectrum? I do absolutely because my clubs are called epic comedy.

We don't own any venues. We go into other people's venues and put professional comedy on. But we book nights for the audience. And as we all know, and thank God it's still the case, there is a very sort of diverse in terms of political view audience in the UK. And I'm in the home counties. I'm in Hampshire. I'm in Dorset.

I'm in places like that where I would call the normal people live. And they don't care. They want to see Leo Curse because Leo Curse speaks their way. But also they've got children who want to see somebody. I mean, I'm not going to book Nish Kumar. Sorry, Nish, absolutely no chance. But, you know, there are people that there are people that want that type of comedy. And I accept that as someone who's running.

a business. Well, no, exactly, because we're not trying to cancel left-wing comment. I mean, we can say Niske Kermas's really not funny. I mean, we're not trying to cancel them. We're not calling up venues telling them to not allow him to perform, which are the tactics that the left do use on the likes of Jim Davidson and Katie Hopkins and other other comedians on the right. Did you ever work with John Cleese during his time at GB News? I did, actually. What did you think he was I was kind of, it was interesting because the dynamic was, it was a little bit of a hero of mine. It was one of the few people that I've met in my media career, I've genuinely been in awe and actually asked for a selfie. It's not really a done thing when you're a contributor,

just to walk up to someone else and say, can I have a selfie? But I made that decision to do with John Cleese because, you know, he's a man in his autumn years. We don't know how long he's got left. But John Cleese is someone that splits opinion anyway, just because I think Father Calvin was absolutely right. John Cleese next week could have an opinion on something else. We all totally disagree with. But I really welcome that too. I like the fact that people can share their opinion. One thing I hate more than anything is that people are getting into tremendous trouble for simply having the wrong opinion. Yeah, I totally agree. I totally agree. And I hope that what I prove by supporting John Cleese on this issue is that I am prepared to take

people for what they say rather than what they think about me because cleese was utterly vile to me during my cancellation from jim news do you remember this father Calvin he he went on good morning britain and slagged us off and then he was posting constantly on x like mad stuff from from left-wing people. But I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care what he thinks of me.

I care about what's right. And I care about the fact that I think on this issue of Islam, he will wake some people up. And that's what matters to me. I think that's your most important point in that you talked about he used to mock Christianity back in the day. It was quite controversial, but he was open to do it.

And he should be willing to do exactly the same for Islam today. And the fact that he is shows that he is, consistent and that's what people want to see. You're not hypocrisy and double standards everywhere. If you're willing to mock one religion, you should be willing to mock them all, to be honest with you. And so many comics are afraid. I like to Jimmy Carr, I think you had it on the show last week, Jimmy Carr's piece about Islam. It's like making a joke of being afraid of making a joke because that's how detached they are from it, because people are scared of losing their heads. He's back. Yeah. The BBC Pido, Hugh Edwards,

is being prepared for a return to the entertainment industry. Does that not tell you everything about just how morally corrupt the mainstream entertainment industry is? I guess we shouldn't be surprised, given that most of the BBC's biggest stars over the years, from Jimmy Saville, to the man who announced the Queen's death,

do seem to have some side of sex, some type of sexual fascination with children. Now, remember, this is the moment when Hugh Edwards was given that historic task, despite the fact that many, many BBC News staff knew that on his bone was paedophilic material. This is BBC News from London. Buckingham Palace has announced the death of Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II. In a statement, the palace said, the Queen died peacefully at Balmoral this afternoon.

The King and the Queen Consort will remain at Balmoral this evening and will return to London tomorrow. And you remember even after it emerged that he had had this very dodgy relationship with a 17-year-old boy who turned into some type of drug addict, there were lots of those leftist figures like John Sopel and Adam Bolton saying that Edwards should be allowed. back or not cancelled in the first place?

We now know there was no illegality. So what are you left with? Someone's private life has come under scrutiny, who is now unwell. I think it would be a crying shame if this is the last we see of Hugh Edwards on television when the allegations have turned out to be not that much. And I think all his friends

will just be wishing him well at this stage because Hugh commands huge respect in this industry. Very difficult to see anyone, that Hugh can come back. I think you should never say never in this industry. Never say never in this industry. Oh, what about once he was a convicted paedophile? Once he had admitted to having material on his phone of children engaged in criminal sexual acts as young as eight years old, would that be the end? You would think so, right? You would think so, given the way. that people on the right are cancelled

for saying the wrong thing. But apparently not. Because after this extraordinary Channel 5 drama this week where I have to say I watched it and Martin Clunes did an absolutely brilliant job as Edwards, I found the whole thing very chilling, very sinister, and we learned a lot more about exactly how. how Edwards did groom this young man because the young man was involved in the production.

But yet, despite that, Hugh Edwards has used this moment that you would think potentially shame him forever into announcing plans for a comeback. And the mainstream media are totally buying into this, writing all about this plan. Indeed, today, the Daily Telegraph discloses that Edwards now hopes to make a documentary in which he will claim that mental illness played a crucial role in his behaviour. This, he is working with the newly appointed publicist, a bloke called Barry Tome's, who was even given the chance to appear on Good Morning Britain today. His previous client list includes Alvin Stardust, Tony Christie, and the Beach Boys. Now, you know this has been a long-held strategy by Edwards to blame everything that went on

on mental health. In his pre-sentencing reports, a consultant psychiatrist said the former presenter suffered from a major depressive disorder. He had a psychologically challenging upbringing with a domineering father, followed by feelings of inferiority at the BBC because he did not have an Oxbridge degree. agree. A second report from a forensic psychosexual therapist said that Edwards had been destabilized by joining social media and had been made to feel desirable by strangers on the internet. All of this would be explored in the planned documentary.

Edwards's publicist, this bloke Barry Tomes, said, you have podcasts now about mental illness and how it should be treated. Mental illness is misunderstood, but these days, It's used as a word like racism, which is the favourite word now, isn't it? Lots of people not agreeing with the documentary. Veteran broadcaster Jan Leemeyne said he was not a newsreader, she liked, even though she knew nothing about his proclivities. And she said, feel extremely sorry, not for him, but for his wife and five children. they must have suffered shock at his downfall and now more hurt for them.

But Benjamin Butterworth, the left-wing star of G.B. News, has said this is still going on in the industry today. He says, this is what happens when those with power use it to cover up for despicable acts because they think it's easier than taking on an abuser. You hear horror stories, like the man who has two decades of men and boys saying he groped them, and paid men to withdraw legal claims, threatened a child he solicited explicit pictures of, told a colleague he should expose his penis when asked for promotion advice, and is still getting away with it. What's interesting, though, is that the man groomed by Hugh Edwards has also been given a voice

as a result of this documentary in a new statement, which ran at the end of it. And by the way, sorry, it's not a documentary. like Kirstaam with adolescence. It's a drama. It is a brilliant drama. But at the end of the drama, which is called power, the downfall of Hugh Edwards, we heard from this young man who said, after years of struggle, I have finally overcome my battle with drugs. I refuse to let Hugh Edwards or what he did define who I am or the life I will yet lead. I chose to tell my side of the story, so no one who has been silence feels they are alone. Your truth deserves to be heard. But we've also also had a statement from Hugh Edwards himself. This was not run in the drama, instead issued to the Daily Mail. And in it, he said Channel 5's factual drama, and he put factual in inverted commas, is hardly likely to convey the reality of what happened. They made no attempt to check with me the truth of any aspect of their narrative before going ahead with the production. They belatedly asked for a response after the drama had been made.

while reserving the right to edit any such response. They also refused to disclose whether any of those making allegations had been paid or their contributions. It is difficult to see how this approach can be considered remotely responsible or fair or be in compliance with key sections of the off-con code on broadcast standards. He also did apologise, offering regret and remorse for his 2024 conviction. He said, my deep regret and remorse for the crimes I committed were expressed in court. In pleading guilty at the earliest opportunity, I took full responsibility for my reprehensible actions. I am repelled by the idea that some people enjoy viewing indecent images of children.

Every image represents an innocent victim. I offer my sincere and profound apologies for what I did. But then he revealed his own comeback, saying, I am making an effort to produce my own account of these terrible events. This is a slow process given the fragile state of my health. I have been open about my struggle with persistent mental illness over a period of 25 years. What is less well known is the severity of the condition which was managed successfully until the downward spiral which led to an appalling outcome. Mental illness is misunderstood by many, but can never be an excuse for criminality. It can, however, at least help explain

why people sometimes behave in shocking and reprehensible ways and why things fall apart for me in the way they did. Well, on the superstar panel today, alongside Father Calvin Robinson and Paul Cox, is Emma Kenny. She is one of Britain's foremost psychologists. But very appropriately for this story, she is also behind the YouTube channel Emma Kenny True Crime. So, Emma, where do you stand on this?

Is Hugh Edwards correct to say that mental health in some way played a part in what he did? Or is he hiding behind his mental health condition to try and excuse Peter Filia? I wish we had more time because there are so many things I could analyze with what's just been said. First of all, oh, let's just do the victim blaming. It wasn't actually Hugh. It was just those individuals on pestilious. social media who just found him so attractive. How good he have helped himself, number one. Number two, actually everybody off-com should hear about this because really they shouldn't have

done that drama without checking me, the actual perpetrator in this case, because that's how it works. Thirdly, I'm not going to take any responsibility for this. What it is, it's my mental health condition. No, you don't become a paedophile, an actual predatory paedophile because you're mental health condition. You have it because, guess what? You're attracted to children, eight-year-old children, for example. And then the biggest denial, I find it reprehensible that there are people out there who exist who actually enjoy watching this kind of footage, which would be me because I'm Hugh Edwards. And that's exactly what I did.

I don't even know where to go with the amount of analysis I could do regarding how that demonstrates the narcissism you are dealing with. And believe me, again, whilst you could say there's a classification of narcissism that exists, and therefore you could say he suffers from narcissistic personalities. disorder where the only person he cares about is himself and has no impact or concern about the actual impact on the children involving these cases. He is not mentally ill. He has an attraction towards children and wouldn't be comfortable to imagine that we could just cure that. But a little bit like me, I find good-looking men really attractive, right? It's a bit of a predilection for me. I'm a heterosexual female, shall I say. Therefore, that means that no matter

how much therapy you give me, I'm still going to look at those guys and think, yeah, you're a good looking guy. It's an attraction base. And Hugh's taken no responsibility for it, no culpability for it. He's deflecting. He's projecting. He's projecting and he's blaming other people. So no, he's a dangerous man and he shouldn't get to go anywhere near our screens again. I'm not for cancellation, but for people like this, the only way that I would deal with him is prison, ideally eternally. So, Emma, what about, I mean, fascinating. totally hear what you're saying. You're, of course, also someone who knows the TV industry very well. I mean, for years and years and years, you were one of the most high-profile faces

talking about mental health issues on national television, a real star of this morning. Of course, you had your own cancellation football. What? Standing up against the COVID madness? Insane. How do you feel about your full? former industry, of course you're a star of the independent media now, but your former mainstream media industry seem to be preparing for some type of Hugh Edwards' comeback. Well, you and I know that they want the views and lots of people would watch that because everyone would just have that voyeuristic nature to think, how did you end up in this situation? What is your story? Of course, people are going to listen to that. But that gives untold damage and harm to victims. I'm so tired

of the TV industry shielding individuals who are very, very powerful, who operate in networks that are absolutely deplorable and that celebrate these individuals who have fallen from grace so catastrophically because they have done the worst things. And yet somehow, even when they're in the pits of hell, they think to themselves, well, how can we deal with the embers

and just raise them back up to a position where they're no longer smoldering? It's grotesque. And I think it speaks of something that Calvin has often talked about on your channel, the rottenness within that. There are pitiful networks and they operate in places of power because being a paedophile isn't simply about having an attraction to children. It's wanting to dominate and believing that you have a right to

dominate. And there is nothing more dominating than picking the most vulnerable within our society in doing so. Father Calvin, do you want to come in at that point? I hate this. And I use that word purposefully. I hate this industry. I hate these people. I hate the evil of it all. I don't hate individuals, but I hate this whole idea that they're saying that Hugh Edwards, could possibly come back to the public light in any way, shape or form. It just goes to show how dark this industry is because they protect their own. You can retweet Rupert Lowe, you're cancel for good. They want you gone out of the industry, gone.

But you can be a paedophile, but as long as you're one of them, you're fine. As long as you're left leaning, you're okay. You can come back. You can talk about your story. Tell us about your mental health. No, we don't care about his mental health. I don't care if he thinks he's desirable to people on social media. I don't care what he's struggling with.

He was found guilty of 40, cases of making indecent images of children. He is a child sexual abuser. He's a paedophile. He's a predator. These are things that should deem cancellation from any form of society. He should live a private life for the rest of his life. In fact, to be honest, he should be in prison. He was let off because of a soft judge who said he was, he pled guilty at the first instance and also seemed sorry. I don't care how sorry he is. What he did was despicable, evil, and all of us should be condemning him for it. In a just society, I think pedophile should be hanged. still today, to be honest with you. But at the very least, he should never work in the public

life ever, ever again. And the people supporting him should be ashamed of themselves. Well, I mean, Paul Cox, this publicist for Hugh Edwards, Barry Tomes, had the red carpet rolled out for him and was on the Good Morning Britain sofa today. Incredibly softball interview as well, I thought. And this really boils my blood. Excuse me. What's happening here is the continual legitimisation from the mainstream liberal elites of paedophilia. They excuse it away all the time. A mutual friend of ours, Lucy Connolly, did over a year in prison for words on X.

This guy served no time whatsoever. As far as I'm concerned, if he gets any more media time, it's a perpetuation of his crime. His victims would deserve further compensation. This is outrageous. The idea for me that there are still people out there, whether it's voyeurism or whatever it might be, that would still be interested in seeing a paedophile of the worst kind continue his media career because he was once thought of as a decent person

is absolutely sickening. Yeah, it really is. It really is. But it feels inevitable. It feels inevitable. I don't know how he's going to, I mean, he's admitted. He's working on it. And so we'll obviously have to see who he works with on that.

But look, do stand by, guys, because Hugh Edwards is nominated for our union Jackass today. We'll reveal those results in just one moment. But first, I just want to get to some of your comments today. Thank you so much for them. Mirror 893 says, John Cleese for PM, Runa for Life, speaking about Morgan McSweeney's missing phone, says, If they use the Find My Phone thing, it'll be up Starmers' ass. That did make me chuckle. Very, very funny.

PUDs 5102 says, I love Father Calvin's voice. Sorry, I've just lost that message. I love Father Calvin's voice. He should go and do audiobooks, super soft and clear and lovely. That could be like another income stream. We'll use Father Calvin. Very sweet. I appreciate that.

An Anglo hero 6295 says, I am no fan of football, but John Terry will be more loved than ever now. This is as a result of his support of Restore Britain. And actually, Rabbi Rob, thank you for the super chat, Rabbi Rob. He says, we are all John Terry now. Gibboy, thank you for the super chat, says, ooh, John Terry loves doggy's racist. He's obviously been sarcastic. and Clippy 789, thank you for the super chat. Clippy and you're our number two,

Crown supporters Day, go you, says, I love Islamosceptic. All faiths have skeptics. Atheists understand this. Also, I understand the skepticism. Father Calvin and Dan renew my faith. Well, thank you so much for that Clippy. Okay, a reminder of your Union Jackass nominees today.

Hugh Edwards, nominated by Emma Kenny, for trying to make this comeback, as we've just discussed. Morgan McSweeney nominated by Paul Cox for this cover-up. And Crispin Blunt, he is the former Conservative MP, I think he's also the uncle of the actress Emily Blund, for suggesting all drugs should be legal after he admitted four narcotics charges, including possession of crystal meth. And the results are in, Crispin Blunt, in third place, with 6% of the vote.

Hugh Edwards, the runner-up with 36% of the vote, and today's worst Britain in the world today with 58% of the vote, Morgan McSweeney nominated by Paul Cox. And Paul, you have a brilliant choice for today's Greatest Britain. And I am so glad you went with this man. Yeah, this is Nathan Newby. Now, unless you've read today's papers, you might not know who Nathan Newby is.

There he is on your screens. A regular looking guy, a white British guy from Leeds. He was in hospital in Leeds at St. James' Hospital in January of 2023. and income Mahmood. I'm going to get his name right. Farouk, Mahmood Farouk, with every intention of essentially committing a terrorist act in the maternity ward.

Nathan recognized this, and instead of doing any, you know, we may all get angry or run away or whatever, he went and asked him if you wanted to chat, ended up chatting with him for some time, showed him, you know, some consideration, gave him a hug of all things, and Farouk was arrested and taken away

and never committed the crime. So essentially, and he's now been given an honour, by the way, this was a couple of years ago, but he's just been given an honour this week to honour his bravery essentially and how brave he was, because that guy did have a live explosive on him, apparently. So congratulations, Nathan.

I'm glad people like that were still among us. Yeah, could have saved so many lives, that simple act of kindness. And I think Muhammad Farooke did end up getting life in prison, didn't he? So, yeah, wow. Brilliant story. Brilliant choice. So great to have you on the show. Paul Cox. And so we can find your YouTube channel at Paul Cox Comedy. That's correct. Thank you very much. Dan. I've had an absolute lovely time. I'd love to come back. Thank you. It's so brilliant to have you here. And of course, Father Calvin Robinson is the co-host of Reclaim the Media's Fox and Father. And Emma Kenny, I mean, gosh, you've got to go to her true crime channel. You'll know that after hearing what she's had to say today about Hugh Edwards. So it's Emma Kenny, true crime. you can find it at Emma Kenny TV on YouTube.

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