Dan Wootton Outspoken - SOUTHPORT BOMBSHELL: GUILTY AXEL RUDAKUBANA WAS REFERRED TO PREVENT 3 TIMES, IT CAN BE REVEALED

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

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few hours, everyone's head is going to be turned. But not me, not hair on outspoken, because there are major developments on this. So today we are going to be joined live by Charlie Bentley Astor, who was following this bombshell news in court husband of Lucy Connolly, who is currently behind bars as a result of her posts on social media on the day of the Southport massacre. But you will remember that Nigel Farage described what's been going on with the Southport massacre as the biggest cover-up in modern history. You will know that I have tried to say as much as I could about this case without being in contempt of court. And you will see that even the Attorney General had issued warnings encouraging no one to speculate on the case. However, now that there is a guilty plea from Axel Rudacabana, news is emerging about the fact, and this will shock you and this will horrify you,

about the fact that the authorities knew, the authorities knew that Axel Rudacabana was a serious threat with terrorist motivations in the days, the weeks, the months before he stabbed those three beautiful young girls at a Taylor Swift dance class. The Guardian has been the first to break the news that I have known for some time. Axel Rudacabana was referred to counter-extremism scheme Prevent three times. I'm going to take you through this article now. The teenager who murdered three young girls at a dance class in Southport was referred three times to Prevent, the government's scheme to stop terrorist violence, the Guardian has learned. One of the referrals followed concerns about Axel Rudikopana's potential interest in the killing of children in a school massacre. It is understood. His behaviour, including his apparent interest in violence, was assessed by Prevent as potentially concerning. But he was deemed not to be motivated by a terrorist ideology or pose

a terrorist danger and was therefore not considered suitable for the counter-radicalization scheme. This is a scheme which I've been saying for years is not fit for purpose. Rudi Kibana, remember he was just 17 at the time of the Southport attack, was first referred to prevent in 2019 when he was 13. A further two referrals were made in 2021, all when he was a school child living in Lancashire. Now, in the weeks after the Southport massacre, I was provided communication between Axel Rudekabana and some of his former students. It was very obvious to me that this was a scumbag completely motivated by a terrorist ideology. He was not the sweet young choir boy the mainstream media have tried to be painting him to be. And these referrals to

prevent clearly prove that. The Guardian goes on. After one of the referrals, it was recommended that Rudi Cabana be referred to other services. It is not known if that happened. Police say that despite extensive searches and investigations, there is no evidence of a terrorist motivation for the Southport attack. However, multiple sources confirmed Ruta Cabana's referral to Prevent to The Guardian. After the stabbings and his subsequent arrest, an emergency review of how Prevent dealt with Rudi Cabana was ordered. It concluded that the Prevent policies at the time covering the criteria needed to accept someone on the scheme for de-radicalisation work were correctly followed. Now just think about that for one minute.

This is a young man who then went on to kill three beautiful young girls, attempted to kill many more. Some people say he was attempting to behead many more at that dance class. And yet this government review, which has taken place behind closed doors without any of us knowing because of the way that our contempt of court laws work, which I think need to have a really good look at, because it means Starmer has been able to get away with all of this without actually telling the public what has been happening. The Guardian has more details about the referrals which will make you sick. They report, Rudi Cabana was first referred to PreENT over concerns he was looking at material about school massacres

in the US and a fascination with violence. He used computers at the school he attended at the time to search for material on school massacres. It is understood. By early 2020, after the first referral the previous year, it was assessed that he did not fit the criteria for the voluntary scheme but should be referred to other services. Two years later, in 2021, he was referred again to Prevent after viewing material on Libya and past terrorist attacks, including those on London in 2017. The material is understood to have consisted of news articles, and at the time he was assessed by Prevent, officials did not have any information that he was viewing or searching for extremist material. On each occasion, it was decided that while the behaviour might be concerning, it did not meet the threshold for intervention by Prevent. He was judged three times not to pose a terrorism risk and was thus outside the scope of the scheme.

But sources say there remains a grey area in cases where it is feared that a young person may pose a risk of violence, but where there is no sign of a terrorist ideology motivating them. Prevent exists solely to stem the flow of recruits for terrorism and there is no similar scheme for those thought to pose a risk of violence where terrorism is not suspected. A source said there is a gap for those who are volatile, who need management, who may be dangerous. There is nothing for them. But let me repeat, let me repeat, I believe Axel Rudikabana is a terrorist. He had an al-Qaeda training manual in his home. He was producing ricin.

How can you say that does not make him a terrorist? I am absolutely sickened by this. And those three young girls lost their lives because of a lack of action. And what I am expecting to hear over the next few days, few weeks, and I hope few months, because this story will not go away for Starmer and Cooper, is the testimony of the folk who did refer Axel Rudiger Barna to prevent, who were desperately asking for help and were ignored by the authorities. Now because of how this has all emerged in court today and we'll be hearing from Charlie very shortly about what exactly went down, of course there's been very little detail given about Rudy Cabana's crimes. We only received a very short statement from the CPS immediately after the guilty plea.

Let's take a look at this now. Axel Rudacabana has today pleaded guilty to the murder of Elsie Dot Stankum, Bibi King and Alice de Silva Aguia, as well as the attempted murder of 10 others, including Leanne Lucas and John Hayes. This was an unspeakable attack, one which has left an enduring mark on our community and the nation for its savagery and senselessness. At the start of the school holidays, a day which should have been one of carefree innocence, of children enjoying a dance workshop and making friendship bracelets, became a scene of the darkest horror,

as Axel Rudder-Kobaner carried out his meticulously planned rampage. It is clear that this was a young man with a sickening and sustained interest in death and violence. He has shown no signs of remorse. The prosecution was determined to prove his guilt and I'm deeply grateful that today's plea has spurred the families at the heart of the case, the pain of having to relive their ordeal through a trial. Today, our thoughts are with all those whose lives were altered by what happened on that day. Most of all, we think of Elsie, of Bebe and of Alice, the three beautiful young girls whose

lives were cut short and wish strength and courage to their families who loved and cherished them. Thank you. Charlie Bentley-Aster is an independent journalist who has been covering the Axel Rudacabana case with the type of honesty and perseverance that I wish we saw from our mainstream media journalists, but we no longer do. So, Charlie, obviously, there is a lot to unpick here, but can we go back to the beginning of what happened today? You were witness to these court proceedings. Please talk us through everything. So at the plea hearing, Axel Rudacabana had a not guilty plea entered on his behalf because he remained silent when he was asked to plea. Today, everyone's expecting to turn up and a trial to be initiated.

But in the opening speech, Rudica Barna's plea was changed to guilty on all accounts. And that includes the murder of those three beautiful girls, the attempted murder of eight other children, the attempted murder of two other adults, possessing a bladed article, the rice in production and owning an Al-Qaeda training manual. the attempted murder of two other adults, possessing a bladed article, the rice in production and owning an al-Qaeda training manual.

So guilty on all of those. Now, he wasn't even prepared, Charlie, to say his name or confirm his name. But did he have to actually utter the words guilty what happened they rendered on his behalf he he did not even stand when requested which in the least is a show of deference to the process of justice and he wore a uh medical mask over his face those blue masks that you all saw in covid he wore one of those when uh these this guilty verdict was being read out um he had his head bowed so that no one in the public gallery could see him. It was just shocking. It was just shocking.

Were there any gasps or anything from the public gallery, from what you're aware? Do you know, I'm a terrible reporter. I heard myself gasp. No, you're definitely not a terrible reporter, Charlotte. I heard myself gasp. No, you're definitely not a terrible reporter, Charlotte. You've been doing absolute God's work on this. But I think what is so appalling is that many of the families of the victims and the attempted victims themselves may well not have been in court today because of course this was expected to be a four-week trial with a lot of evidence given and actually today was going to

be much more about jury selection and I guess the housekeeping matters so it's really shocking to me that that there was no warning and many of the family members may have missed out on that moment where they actually could hear Axel Rudicabana admit that he was guilty of this crime. However, Charlie, sentencing was soon set for Thursday at 11am. And what are we expecting to come out there? Because presumably there will be an opportunity for witness impact statements, for example, from the family members. You know, it's still not particularly clear. The proceedings wrapped up very quickly.

And there was nothing from the prosecution today at all? No, not at all. So all that was heard was that the defence, when asked by the judge after this guilty plea had been entered, whether he had any extra material that he wished to present to the court, he said he had no psychiatric reports, but that he wished to submit Ruda Cabana's considerable mental health record. Oh, we've just lost Charlie there. While we try and get Charlie back, what I want to do is immediately show you the way that the mainstream media are, I think, very dishonestly covering this. So, Charlie, I think we've got you back. But just let's have a result of this case, which to me, given the revelation that there was much the public has not been told about Axel Rudi Cabana, is absolutely sickening.

But just have a watch of some of this coverage from sly News and I'll get you to respond off the back. What did they know? Were opportunities missed to try and intervene and divert him from this path of violence? What was his interest in violence and extremism? Where did that come from? And so on. There are so many important questions we need to know about, not least because conspiracy theories have been swirling around the internet. So we need to know about, not least because conspiracy theories have been swirling around the internet. So we need to have the facts out in the open. And we need to have the understanding of why the police didn't declare this to be a terrorist incident. That needs to be out in the open. I don't think there's any great conspiracy around that myself, but it needs to be ventilated in public. And that's why I think we need an inquiry.

Yes, Daniel, we'll come on to the perception of who did this at the time and what that led to, even though many people jumped to completely the wrong conclusion as to who Axel Rudacabana was. But you rightly point to that terrorism assertion, because whilst he was arrested on the scene at the time and subsequently charged it wasn't until October that police discovered ricin which is a naturally occurring toxin in his possession and also al-qaeda materials as well that gives this whole thing a different flavor doesn't it like you say a terrorist element to this well it, it does, but the police... I mean, can you believe that immediately, Charlie, they're leaning to this idea of conspiracy theories and disinformation when actually it was very, very clear

that there has been huge amounts of information regarding Axel Rudiger Barna's past withheld from the British public. And Starmer and Cooper can hide behind contempt of court laws all they want. But that is a fact. Exactly. The reason there were so many quote unquote conspiracies. Oh sorry, we've just lost your audio there, Charlie. Do you mind just unmuting? And can you just repeat that charlie please sorry oh we just lost charlie's audio so while we get her back let me just remind you if you are just tuning in to what has happened today in an unexpected twist axel Rudikabana has pleaded guilty to all the charges that he

was facing. But it has emerged in the past hour officially that he had been referred to the Prevent Terrorism Scheme three times. Charlie Bentley-Aster, who is watching Proceedings in Court today, joins me now. Charlie, your reaction first to the way that Sly News immediately leans into this idea of conspiracy theories and disinformation? How dare they? The reason there are so many quote-unquote conspiracies

is because that community, the people at Axel Garuda Cabana's old school, social workers, neighbours, family, friends, everyone has been trying to say what they can about this because of how misleading the public narrative has been about this now with regards to the terrorism charges they knew about the ricin at his house the same day starmer and cooper would have been told the same day we saw that they were at his house at half past four on the day of the attack. Starmer would have known by that evening, undoubtedly. I've talked to people who work in counterterrorism. There was no way they would not have been informed that this was happening. The reason it has not been declared a terror attack is because the way our laws work, unless a terror attack is declared by the attacker at the time of the attack or is committed with a bomb or a gun, it cannot be declared a terror attack

unless the perpetrator declares their motive. Because Rudi Kavanaugh has failed to speak, he has declared no motive, and therefore the terror attack cannot be declared. But you were right, it is a terror attack in all but legal name. There's been some really interesting reaction to this, Charlie. Jake Berry, the former Conservative Party chairman, posted before the trial started today, the Southport attack trial starts today, and of course it's overshadowed by Trump's inauguration. This is a calculated and cynical move by the Labour government

to bury bad news behind international headlines. Alison Pearson, the Daily Telegraph columnist, posted, This evil bastard Rudy Cabana, who massacred three little girls and injured many others, suddenly pleads guilty. How convenient. The public deserves to know how he was radicalized,

why he had a bioweapon in his kitchen, although not terrorist-related. It stinks, doesn't it? And the thing is, so much stinks, Charlie, around all of this. But the timing of this trial provides the mainstream media the ultimate opportunity to look away. When I was monitoring the MSM coverage this morning, which is something I'm forced to do, Sly News was not reporting on the Southport trial starting whatsoever. They were full time with their presenters in Washington, D.C. and Jerusalem. So do not tell me, do not tell me that this trial

was not scheduled for this day on purpose. But the thing is, we're not stupid, are we? We're not going to look away. This sentencing is on Thursday. This crime touched the nation in a way that few have in our recent history. And I don't think Starman will get away with this. I think he is trying to delay the inevitable. But in the end, this will completely and quite rightly crush his credibility. There is no way to survive it. He will, the whole of the front bench, any of the front bench that knew about this and were complicit in the spinning of this narrative need to go. They are not fit to lead the country if they can't be honest about a very

significant change in the course of our country. That's what this attack has been. Nigel Farage has just weighed in as well, Charlie. Let's have a look at this. Axel Rudacabana has pleaded guilty to murder and a terrorism charge. Will we ever find out the whole truth? What do you think, Charlie? I mean, part of it is starting to emerge, but I feel we won't. I don't feel hopeful. Do you?

You should, because I'm going to make sure that everything that there is to know about this case is in the public forum. What Rudi Cabana's background is, why he wasn't picked up by Prevent when he should have been, what was going on with social services, mental health, his school, why was the trial scheduled for today, why has it been handled this way, why did Starmer, in full knowledge of the nature of this attack, take to a national stage when the nation was in fear and grief and say that you are far right for having concerns about how this case is being handled.

Everything will be on the table. So help me God. Good on you. I'm about to bring you a horrifying image, Charlie. After the guilty plea, we now have access to the official mugshot of Axel Rudikabana. This is the face of evil. What do you think of it, Charlie? I've been in contact with a lot of the families and, sorry, the account that most stuck with me is one of the parents

who had seen Rudica Barna at the time and said that is the face that those children saw in their final moments. And it's not the face of a child as the media portrayed him. You know, we didn't get a picture of him at 16 years old, 17 years old. We got him as young as eight, 11, 14. That is the face that they saw. And it's just unforgivable.

These children should not be dead. People failed, and I will not settle for platitudes of mistakes were made. We're bored of them as a nation. Mistakes were made. Mistakes can't lead to the deaths of children. You know, if he had locked that door as he went in, he would have killed all 28 of them that were in there. Absolutely. And would that have been enough for real change? People like me have been saying that Prevent is not fit for purpose for years and years. How many people is it going to take to die before there is change?

But looking at this mugshot of Axel Rudiger Barney, you do think about that and charlie i had heard reports that his intention was to behead these young girls do you have any information on that um so i'm afraid to relay that yes um the girl who died first was almost beheaded um two of the other girls he got you know a decent way into doing that and i think the the girl with the least number of stab wounds had six um they i don't know whether they will go into the specifics, but it was frenzied. There was no time frame in which, you know, the longer you spent time in the room, the more injuries you had. It was whoever was nearest got it worse.

It's unimaginable what the terror those girls felt. Unimaginable. It is unimaginable what the terror those girls felt unimaginable it is unimaginable and this could have been prevented that is the and it could have been anyone's children you know this is the thing it could have been anybody's children it could have you know if any of those i'm sure that you know these parents were raking themselves over the coals, over, you know, I shouldn't have taken them there. I know, but it was a dance class. Come on. Exactly. I know. Exactly. Exactly. It could have been anyone's children and anyone's dance class. He could have chosen one down the road and it would have been another set of children it's it's the government can't leave this as it is

and charlie you're upset i would describe myself as very angry and there's going to be a lot of people feeling anger today. Now, of course, we know violence is never the answer. So where should people channel that anger? Should it be demanding answers of our MPs? Should it be protest? I mean, what can people do to channel this deep sense of anger, resentment that we feel about what's going on today? I think every town should be hosting a vigil. I think every town should be hosting a visual and putting that on social media and showing Westminster, we see you. This could have been our children. We are taking a stand now. This can't go on.

The ineptitude, the platitudes of, oh, well, well you know there weren't the resources or they didn't show signs at the time you know and people who raised concerns about immigration when this this started that that this wouldn't have happened if axel rudicabana's parents hadn't been given asylum to the country that's a valid point to make. And when it comes to integration and the levels of crime among second generation immigrants, the children of immigrants is actually worse, according to I think a Swedish study. It needs to be addressed. We can't go on like this. We absolutely cannot. Charlie, stay with us. but i also want to bring in now raymond connelly he is the conservative politician whose own life took a terrible twist as a result of the southport

massacre because his wife lucy connelly who simply posted her anger the day of the Southport massacre, ended up in prison as a result. So, Raymond, I know there's a lot of big moments involving Lucy, and I will talk to you about that later in the show. But of course, this breaking news, Axel Rudicabana has pleaded guilty to all the charges he was facing. We have also learned that he had been referred to the prevent program three times in the past. Now, your Lucy felt what happened that day so deeply in part because of the terrible way that you both previously lost a child what's your reaction to the shocking information which is now public i just listened to this now for the first time it's just i'm gutted for these families and these children um i just i just feel they're so let down um organizations certainly need to

review their criteria and prevent one of them but just listen to charlie there it's just absolutely awful and it almost like seems my own situation with lucy so significant um compared to what these families and residents are having to go through no but you do know about the loss of a child Raymond and you know that a loss of a child can I mean will you tell me it changes you forever doesn't Of course. You're so very protective over your children and other children as well. Like Lucy's situation, she was obviously mortified when these children were attacked. She's been there before with this loss.

But just to see this unfolding now is just you know really gutting really gutting and to see the picture of that guy as well and poor children to um see that person come in that's the last thing they've seen in their life it's chilling it it, it is utterly, utterly chilling. Can I ask both of you about the likely sentence which will be handed down to Axel Rudacabana? So Charlie Bentley Astor in court today, the judge made it clear that Rudacabana must be expecting a life sentence. However, given his age and his guilty plea, he will not receive a whole life tariff. At some point, this psychopath evil bastard will be out on the streets. And unfortunately, Charlie, a lot of people like me look at this case and think, I'm sorry, the death penalty is the only correct sentence here. Do you have any idea of how long behind bars he will potentially receive?

None at all. This is going to be developing over the next couple of days as they look at the mental health material that the defence have submitted to the court. I'm taking this plea into consideration, but the idea that he will ever see the light of day is abhorrent. You know, obviously, hopefully, the parents of these children would have you know get into their old age or passed

on you know the idea that they'll ever have to encounter this this person on the street is is unforgivable but I agree that the country needs to start taking the death penalty idea seriously because even the fact that these parents are going to have to pay via their taxpayer money to house this monster, to feed him, to entertain him playing the Xbox. If we can't have the death penalty, then we at least need to make prisons self-sufficient so that no victim ever has to pay for their perpetrator to be incarcerated at his majesty's pleasure. Indeed. And Raymond Connolly, I'm sorry, we also have to change the rules that a cold-blooded murderer, in my opinion, an absolute terrorist, cannot receive a whole life tariff in the UK because they're under 21. I'm sorry, that makes no sense,

Raymond. He should never be out. He should never be out. out agree I wouldn't want him I wouldn't want him walking the streets anywhere I mean how can you take how can you take your kids to school I don't think it'll be coming out personally but who knows

in 20 years time people will look at things. I can only hope that he never, ever sees a day outside of prison. But he will. He will. That's the disturbing thing. He absolutely will. Now, of course, there are massive political implications to all of this too. And before I come

to you both on this, let me just take a look at what Darren Grimes has said about this. How could Starmer not have known during the mass uprising and online post-arrest that he dismissed as far-right thuggery? We now know that the lives of three innocent young girls could have been saved. Three referrals to prevent, three opportunities to intervene, and still a 17-year-old with a chilling fascination for violence and school massacres was allowed to slip through the cracks. Axel Rudikabana was flagged for his obsession with mass killings, his interest in terror manuals and even the production of ricin, but was deemed not suitable for intervention. He then went on to commit the most chilling and horrifying attack on a Taylor Swift-themed dance class, murdering three children

and wounding 10 more. He was charged with a terror offence, pleading guilty to possessing a document called Military Studies in the Jihad Against the Tyrants, the Al-Qaeda Training Manual, and also to producing the biological toxin ricin. The system failed. PREVENT exists to stop violence at its roots, yet it appears utterly powerless to act when facing with individuals like this, despite glaring red flags. We need to know if political correctness played a part in these failures. If this doesn't make your blood boil, nothing will. Our institutions seem more interested in ticking boxes than protecting lives. This wasn't a failure of hindsight. It was a failure of foresight. The writing was on the wall. Where is the accountability? Where is the justice for those innocent lives?

This is a scandal of epic proportions and it demands answers now. So Charlie Bentley, Esther, Raymond Connolly, Charlie, let me come first to you. What are the political repercussions of this? Is there anything Keir Starmer or Yvette Cooper can do now? Surely, we first and foremost demand that they speak publicly, demand that we hear from them. I don't give a damn that it's the inauguration of Donald Trump today. That's important. But this is more important if you are living in the UK. You know, I almost don't want to hear from them as with uh when i saw yvette cooper's you know statement before the trial started i thought no one cares what you think no one cares what you think weasel words just exactly just get out of the way and let the

grown-ups get on with dealing with this. I do not want to hear from them. They stand up in Parliament. I won't be listening. I want to hear what the parents have to say and the extended families and the community and the teachers. I want to hear them say, unvarnished, what they tried to do, what had been covered up, why the failure happened. I want civil servants to come forward and tell us just how much,

just how much did the Conservative government know before this happened? How much did Keir Starmer know once this had happened? And why? What was their rationale for choosing to keep it back? But I don't want to hear it from their mouths. I want to hear it from the people involved who've suffered because we can't trust Starmer and Cooper to say the truth. We can't. And Charlie, I know you have been speaking to some relatives. Do you have any sense that now that Axel Rudik-Barner has pleaded guilty, that we might hear from family members of the three innocent young girls

or potentially those who were subjected to an attempted murder? So I don't know about the families who suffered direct losses um you know i personally couldn't imagine speaking at this this particular time however i do know that bbc panorama have been sticking their claws in in the last couple of weeks asking through the police if anyone would have an interview with them. To what end, I'm very interested. But certainly family members who have been more indirectly affected by this, the families who have still gone through massive trauma with their children being, you know, attempted murder.

They were mutilated. When you hear the details of these injuries, they were mutilated. And there are a lot of angry parents who are very ready to speak. Matt Goodwin has just posted on this, whatever happens, resale support and ask Saul Rudacabana today. The British people need to know the truth.

We need to know who knew what about Rudacabana and when exactly they knew it. We cannot have information swept under the carpet. Raymond Connolly, let me come to you on the political implications of this. As a Conservative, what do you expect to happen here? Well, look, it's just utter incompetence from start to finish, as far as I can see. I'll be interested to see what Keir Staren and Yvette have got to say about it all

um I really don't know what they can say about it and like oh no we've just lost Raymond uh Charlie Bentley asked uh let me give the final word to you and we'll get get uh get Raymond back but but final word to you on on what is a really significant day I don't have words I'm you know it's it's been two hours now, two and a half hours since that announcement of a guilty plea on all charges. I'm still shaking. I'm so angry, you know, and the reason I'm on verge of tears is that face, that face, you know, it's, this can't go on. By hook or by crook, the nation has to come together and demand better from our leaders.

Oh, my goodness, it does. Well, Charlie Bentley has to thank you so much for the brilliant work that you have been doing on this. We will, of course, stay in touch with you and hopefully speak to you on Thursday following the sentencing, because that is going to be a very emotional day. And of course, Charlie Bentley Astor has been leading the charge on this reporting. I really recommend you subscribe to her sub stack like I do. cannot trust the uh mainstream media in this you really can't you've got to go to independent media sources and that's what Charlie Bentley Astor is you can find her via

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It could be the most important decision you make. But now, back to the show. Breaking right now, there is growing outrage that Axel Rudikabana, the Southport Massacre perpetrator, a man who is clearly evil, a man who I believe is a terrorist, a man who killed those three young girls at a Taylor Swift dance class, and a man who we now learn was referred to the Prevent Counterterrorism Organization three times, yet nothing was done, has pleaded guilty. But that doesn't mean the focus goes off the government. And what about those poor folk who are currently languishing behind bars in what is meant to be a free country because they happen to send a post on X or Facebook on the day of the Southport massacre in the heat of emotion, saying something that the authorities considered unpalatable, or in the case of Lucy Connolly, who we see here, illegal. Right now I'm joined by Raymond Connolly. He is the conservative politician, the husband of Lucy Connolly,

who remains behind bars on what is a very significant day today, Ray, because it is Lucy's birthday. And when you were last on the show, Ray, you thought Lucy might be allowed a Christmas visit. I don't believe that happened. So how was the first Christmas for you and your little girl without your mum? Yeah, the governor refused to leave,

although the probation officers, they were very supportive of Lucy and felt that there was not a risk and it wasn't a problem. And that they'd be, I'd pick her up at eight o'clock in the morning and she would be back home at five o'clock. But it was um they refused

um to come home um so on christmas day um i just lucy rung up and i just put it on loudspeaker with um so me and edie can that do you think that she is going to be allowed out with an electronic tag anytime soon um it's quite i mean obviously lucy's in a freedom of information to get information from the prison and um i was just looking i just got it yesterday but um obviously she was seven sentenced on the 17th yes on the 18th the information goes into the the systems for um home detention curfew and on the 18th it was um um she passed automatically eligibility checks on the 18th. But on the 21st, it was a manual alteration and it was put down as presumed unsuitable offence.

So, I mean, I do know the name of the person who did make that adjustment, but it was a manual change. So although Lucy was under the impression she had to apply to the governor, and she did, with the backing of the probation officers, both of them were fully supportive of Lucy and didn't feel she would be a risk and she was easily manageable. It came back as it had been the governor had refused release on temporary license for the remainder of the last six months of her sentence. So she

will have to do the full lot. It's just crazy. Now, Raymond, you have been subjected to a bit of a witch hunt by the West Northamptonshire Council. Despite the fact that you're an elected Conservative councillor, you have been re-selected to fight your seat. law firm called Bevan Britain to look into these complaints, presumably at the expense of Northamptonshire ratepayers. This is insane, isn't it? This is absolutely insane. Yeah, I thought they could have um dealt with it internally but i assume that they've had some um some quite big um influential people um writing to complain about my support for lucy um to say

by supporting her i was undermining the police um which even was with the police situation because i know quite a few of them i was kind of like oh my god um but um they text me some of the low normal police officers um just to say look ray we've got your back and even when i was at tesco's the other day i'll see him would have gone for oh my god and he'd come up and like just chat in sorry but obviously it's obviously the senior leadership but i guess um some of these people they're uh anonymous um complaints so it's just something i'll have to deal with i have put the freedom of information in to western offence council to get as much information as i can before they drop this on me and start for me to make a response to them um which i'll do the best i can um but even then it's very difficult because obviously um you know i'm going to support my family i'm going to support lucy

the mother of my child always um but i'm mindful of you know i mean i look at kirsten i mean it only a few weeks ago he's throwing his own son under the bus to kind of dodge an issue. But that's not me. I will hopefully get to the next elections without too much trouble. And I'll let the electorate, the residents, this guy had been referred three times to the Prevent scheme? And look at this post here on X from the past few minutes. Chris Rose looking at the two images and saying you've got the media image, which was there trying to present Axel Rudacabana as some type of angelic schoolboy versus the mugshot, the real Axel Rudacabana. Yeah, I just feel if the government were more truthful at the start it would have calmed all fears it probably wouldn't have been these um well so-called these riots and whatever i really do believe yes so-called riots i call them yeah yeah um so there's just so much false information

coming from the government they were and but people knew that it weren't going to be a shy quiet welsh boy they knew it was a terrorist attack and today we find out they were right will you be passing on the information that has emerged about Axel Rudikabana to Lucy behind bars? Yeah, she'll ring me tonight and I'll tell her, but she's just more gutted about the families and the children. And even, I don't even, I'd hate for her to be thinking about this today. It really will cause an issue with her. She will get upset about this. I it's just utterly heartbreaking and i just like you know awful time for these people

of course well look do pass on my birthday wishes to lucy and uh i hope you get through today Raymond it's a very difficult one for the entire country but I really appreciate you being here today that is Raymond Connolly the husband of Lucy Connolly conservative party politician on the day where the truth about Axel Rudikabana began to emerge. And the reason we are here early today for a special live edition of Outspoken is because I refuse to play the establishment game, the game the authorities want us to play, which is look over here, forget about what's happening in the UK, forget about the truth about Axel Rudicabana and focus entirely on the inauguration of President Trump.

Now, of course, the inauguration is a very important moment for the Western world. We will be covering it live on Outspoken from 4.30. But my priority today was to come on air to report the truth about Axel Rudikabana, a man who we now know was referred three times to the Prevent Counterterrorism Scheme. Nothing was done, and yet he went on to murder those beautiful three young schoolgirls in Southport. Lots of folk think that what happened could be the end of Keir Starmer's political career. And I certainly think the trust that the public has in him is smashed, if he ever really did have it. Now, if you are watching this live broadcast now, you can keep the tab open and we will be back live at 4.30 UK time. That's 11.30 Eastern, 8.30 Pacific for coverage of Donald Trump's inauguration. I'd also recommend that you sign up to Outspoken on Substack, www.outspoken.live.

We will be hosting a special Royal After Show following the inauguration, decoding the Vanity Fair expose into Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Thank you so much for joining us for this very special edition of Outspoken today on the guilty plea of Axel Rudikabana, one of the most despicable homegrown terrorists the UK has ever seen. And believe me, I will be returning to this story live tomorrow, 5pm UK time, midday Eastern, 9am Pacific. Most importantly, I promise to keep fighting for you. you