Dan Wootton Outspoken - SOUTHPORT COVER UP GROWS AS MSM COVER UP AXEL RUDAKUBANA TRUTH–SHOULD FAMILY BE DEPORTED?
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No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This is Outspoken Live, episode number 149.
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That's in stark contrast to Donald Trump showing the world how it can and must be done. So in my digest next, why the MSM continues to find excuses for Axel Rudik Obama's Islam extremism with Peter Hitchens now blaming an invented addiction to marijuana.
Can you believe that?
Then my superstar panel weigh in.
Today, I'm joined by the conservative commentator Charlie Downs and Peter McIlvenna of the Hearts of Oak podcast.
Also coming up on the show today, Reform UK tops the national polls as Kemi Badenoch bombs again.
So is it too late to save the Tories? And major developments in the witch hunts against Russell
Brand and Noel Clarke. I'm going to bring you the latest on both of those stories, which I have been following closely. Then in the Uncancelled After Show,
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You might remember if you were with me on my GB News show, Dan Woodson Tonight, that one of the
ways that I would keep you up until midnight to begin with, that was our very
first show, or 11pm in the later months, was with my segment Greatest Britain Union Jackass,
where my superstar panel would nominate from a whole selection of ghastly characters and I would
choose the winner. Once I even made it my
own mother, which was maybe a little bit selfish of me, but she really, really is totally incredible.
But when I departed from GB News, they in their wisdom decided to keep the segment going because
I think it was a very successful thing. A lot of you used to say to me that it was the reason that you would stop going to bed because you just had to know who the winner
was. They never really did it with the same enthusiasm though or the same love for the
concept and when I exited GB News I made sure that I had the right to be able to continue it
on my new venture and the great is, now that GB News has finally
waved goodbye to Greatest Britain and Union Jackass, the format returns every day here on
Outspoken, but with a little bit of a twist. And the great thing is, this puts the power
in your hands if you are watching Outspoken Live. So what I'm going to do is choose the
nominees put together by the Dan Wooten Outspoken Club on X. I will announce them right at the start
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further ado, I hope that makes sense. I'm very, very excited about this. Today's Union Jackass nominees. Slippery Starmer, the Prime Minister, nominated by Mark for renaming HMS Agincourt to HMS Achilles,
so not to offend the French.
Nominee two, Rachel from Accounts, nominated by System LLB,
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So excited to have GB and UJ back where it belongs. But now, let's go.
The people who are prepared to be honest with you about the Southport massacre
have said to hell with political correctness or a corrupted political and judicial process
designed to cover up the reality from you.
And we have stated a simple truth. That simple truth being that Axel Rudikabana is a terrorist
who converted to extreme Islam, had a copy of the Al-Qaeda training manual, was producing ricin in
his revolting bedroom, and has been practicing the Muslim faith behind bars in Belmarsh.
Quite a catalogue, right? But the MSM don't want to admit that simple truth. And what I've seen
over the past week is actually sickening. Anything other than admitting the truth that is hiding in
plain sight, let's blame, I don't know, Elon Musk instead, or Amazon and Jeff Bezos,
or even Donald Trump. But even many MSM commentators, normally of sound mind,
are really grasping at straws. Like Peter Hitchens, this weekend on the Mail on Sunday,
who actually said, these are his words, Rudacabana is not a terrorist any more than Paddington Bear is a terrorist.
The idea is idiotic.
He is plainly crazy, as are many of those who kill on our streets.
What the hell?
Well, it turns out Hitchens, despite criticizing sane people like me
who know exactly what radicalized Rudy Cabana, he is actually attempting to politicize the most sickening of crimes himself by inventing a theory that Rudy Cabana was radicalized by marijuana. I'm totally opposed to the wacky backy, actually. I agree with Hitchens. It is a damaging gateway drug, and I have seen it destroy many lives.
But he has zero evidence that this is the case here.
Yet he writes,
Rudy Cabana became crazy around the age of 12 or 13
between being filmed dressed as Doctor Who, cheerful and normal,
and becoming the blank-eyed, masked, mumbling grotesque which he now is.
Rudy Cabana began to display anger issues and started to turn violent around the age of 13.
That is usually the point that the children of Britain first encounter marijuana. Within a couple
of years many of them are irreparably damaged and some are crazily violent. Now, again, that is simply not the case here.
Ruda Khobana was radicalised by something altogether different.
But we've had a week of this, a week of being gaslit by the dying MSM, like LBC.
There's no evidence to suggest this man was a radical Islamist, for example.
He looked at Al-Qaeda stuff, yes, true,
but that's not quite the same as saying that he believed in a radical Islamist worldview.
Well, the British Fashion Corporation doubling down last night
on the fact that social media is to blame. Watch.
Ministers say social media companies have a moral duty to take down harmful and illegal
violent content in the wake of the Southport attacks last summer. Axel Rudukavana had watched
a huge amount of violent content online before he murdered three young girls.
The Conservative leader, Kemi Badenoch,
said what he'd been watching was evidence that he hadn't integrated into British society.
And, of course, Rachel from Accounts,
now joining the call for censorship.
It's totally unacceptable the fact that the killer,
before he went on to commit those horrific crimes,
was able to access really easily on some of the online platforms
such hateful material.
And those companies have got a moral responsibility
to take that content down.
And when someone in the MSM accidentally delivers a truth bomb,
this is how they react.
Look out in my mind. SM accidentally delivers a truth bomb, this is how they react.
Look out in my mind.
Had people done their job better in the last few years in relation to this man,
those girls would still be alive.
So what's behind this mad approach?
Well, Alex Phillips actually had a very reasonable theory that I wanted to share with you. She posted on X,
Alex is super smart on this this actually. It's why none
of the middle classes seem to give a damn about young migrant men loitering around outside a
primary school filming little kids. As Alex puts it, yet again, the safety of little girls matters
less than offending men with absolutely no claim to be in our nation.
And we the people are fed up. Listen to this desperate call from a mother to a migrant hotel.
Hotel and Dean's Hangar.
Yeah, are you guys aware that the asylum seekers that you guys have got in the hotel
are down by the school taking photographs?
Are they doing it right now?
They're not right now, but they were about 9 o'clock this morning.
9 o'clock this morning?
It's undermined the fact that the police have been contacted.
We're aware currently.
Would you like to call the welfare team that like here
um no that's okay if i don't actually deal with it is it is there just like any other people in
your hotel or is it just the asylum seekers just in case we we're getting confused just
okay all right then well we've reported it to the police and we'll just keep doing what we can but i Right, OK, do you have any kind of description? Just so I can tell the welfare team. Yeah, one of them was in an army jacket this morning.
Army jacket?
Yeah, they were in an army jacket.
Obviously, they've all got beards,
and there's, like, different ones every day, but... Yeah.
Yeah, so we kind of...
My sister, I was late this morning on the school run,
but my sister saw them at school drop-off time.
When I was late, I turned up and saw them again,
and I beat the horn and they they ran off
with their hoods up and stuff so i just wanted to make you guys aware yeah no i mean our phone's
been going crazy all morning i've been getting off because um oh bless you i'm aware of what's
going on um all i can say is i've got phone numbers for the correct welfare teams and we
do have security here so you all the people who are worried about this can contact them.
Obviously, I'm just on reception, so I can't actually do anything.
But, yeah, we've not actually had a visit from the police yet.
When I drove by this morning, it seemed like it was all just men in the hotel.
Is there actually any women and children, or is it just men?
No, there isn't any women and children.
Oh, OK. Seems strange, isn't't it because they're all seeking asylum but they're not with their
wives and children and stuff. No, no yeah, no, I know 100% I think it's the same over
the country but yeah. Okay, alright thank you. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for helping. I really appreciate it.
Yeah, no, no worries. It's all right.
Cheers.
Thank you. Thanks. Bye-bye.
Doesn't that phone call just sum up
the hopelessness of the situation that we all feel?
And it gets worse.
Our descent gets worse with the case of Ibo Jasser from Gambia who came to
Britain in 2004 on a six-month visa was accused of sexual assault in 2010 raped a vomiting woman
in 2015 and got six years in prison but has taken the home office to court six times using
taxpayers money claiming asylum on On leaving prison, he was
held in a deportation centre to be sent back while he continued to use legal aid to claim he shouldn't
be returned and has now received substantial compensation for oppressive treatment by the UK
government. As Alex Phillips puts it, once again, the foreign rapist becomes the victim. Our descent into insanity isn't a future prospect. It's happened.
And we've got to do something about it. Now, my superstar panel. and I'm delighted to welcome back Peter McIlvenna from the Hearts of Oak podcast
and the conservative commentator Charlie Downs so Charlie look loads to pick up there but can we
start with Peter Hitchens who is attacking people like me, who say this is very obvious. People
like Douglas Murray, who say Axel Rudi Cabana is 100% a terrorist, an Islamist.
But he is trying to say that actually this is all down to marijuana.
Oh, Charlie, just unmute yourself, please.
Sorry about that.
I was just saying that it's very interesting
how since the sentencing of Axel Rudikabana,
it's acted as a kind of political Rorschach test.
So as you said, we've seen the government
come down on social media.
They've said that there needs to be greater,
more stringent checks on people seeking to buy
what amounts to cutlery and kitchen utensils
from the internet,
which inevitably paves the way for digital ID,
by the way.
We've seen Reform, and indeed yourself, Dan,
come out and say that this was clearly terrorism.
And we've seen Peter Hitchens come out and say
that this was because of marijuana.
Now, I think that pinning this case to any one thing
is fundamentally too simplistic,
because it's possible, actually, that it's a combination of all these things. It is quite possible that Rudy Cabana was socialized by spending radicalized rather by spending a lot of time on social media.
It is possible that he was on marijuana and that had an impact on his kind of mental state.
It is possible that he was radicalized to radical Islam. I mean, there are rumors that he was attending a mosque when he was in custody awaiting to be sentenced.
But what I would say in response to all of this is let's take it back one step further and ask the question, even if all of this stuff is true, none of that would be an issue if he wasn't in our country in the first place.
Because this is the point. The Ruda Khobana family being in Britain is an outcome of government policy. The Rudi Kubana family claimed asylum here in 2002,
which by the way, was eight years after the genocide in Rwanda. So it's not because of that.
It's actually unclear at this stage why they were granted asylum. So there's questions to be asked
there. But if they hadn't been, if our government didn't have this pathological addiction to, you
know, so-called empathy to people from the most violent imaginable regions of the world, then they
wouldn't have been here and this wouldn't have happened. So I think that that's really the level
at which the conversation needs to be happening. We need to be asking the questions of why we're
allowing these people here in the first place, because if they weren't here, we wouldn't be
having conversations about whether it's because of marijuana or social media or the fact that he could buy a knife
of Amazon or Islam or anything else. Suicidal empathy, as Gad Saad quite rightly describes it.
And actually, I want to dig deep into Axel Rudikubana's father in particular very shortly.
But Peter, before we do that, can I just get your reaction to the MSM seemingly looking
for every other solution to this problem other than the one which is obvious and which there
is evidence for? Well, it was on Amazon that the Southport killer bought his knife. off to that Taylor Swift dance class.
He was not just sitting in the row directly behind Donald Trump.
He is the guy that got on stage and did the Nazi salutes.
So I am not given too hyperbole,
but the aligning of these planets is at the very least notable.
But what the hell can a British government do to rein them in?
Because that is the fight that they've picked.
Peter, your reaction?
I'm shocked that LBC don't know what they can do to rein these people in.
That does blow me away, that level of stupidity. I'm shocked that LBC don't know what they can do to rein these people in.
That does blow me away, that level of stupidity and level of ignorance. But they talked about Amazon.
And I'm curious because we talk about Islam as a religion and Islamism as some political ideology.
No one knows when exactly that came from
because we see right at the beginning of Islam,
we see varying levels of violence
and spread by the sword
and that is right in the root of Islam.
So if we're going to talk about Amazon,
I should talk about Amazonism
as some offshoot of Amazon
that's nothing to do with Amazon
but is a twisted form Amazonism as some offshoot of Amazon. It's nothing to do with Amazon,
but is a twisted form of the wonderful shopping experience that we have on Amazon.
I kind of hate it the way we label some areas one way
and refuse to label other areas another way.
So I think we should have the same conversations
across the board.
If Amazon is the problem
because that's a shopping channel,
then maybe Islam is also an issue
and we need to have Islam on the table.
But of course,
you can't have that conversation.
And of course,
the concerning issue
that Rudy Cabana was going to court
and he had said that he was going to plead innocent.
Suddenly he pleads guilty.
What does that mean?
It means we don't have a trial.
It means the evidence, whatever the police,
the police aren't always very good at collecting evidence
and the CPS aren't always very good either,
but whatever that was they were collecting
that would have fitted together in terms of a legal defence
or attack on Rudy Cabana.
We're no longer going to see that
because that simple declaration of guilty
means that's all brushed aside.
And I think that if we are willing to pay the money
to the grooming gang rapists to appeal their sentences, of which two million was given to
the Rochdale Nine, for instance, and on and on, and you've referred to some of the money that goes
to these individuals, Dan, then I think some of that money can be spent to actually have a trial.
And let's find out what the reason was that this individual carried out this attack. Was it because
he was a loner? Was it because he had had a spliff? Was it because he attended his local mosque?
What is it? But the problem is we will never know because that has been shut down. And to me,
that is the biggest travesty. The public will never know why this happened.
Breaking right now, growing concern over Axel Rudicabana's father and whether the family should have been in the country at all. So Peter Lloyd, who's done a lot of work on this, has said this is the father
of Axel Rudikubana. He stopped his son committing jihad at a local school just one week before the
Southport atrocity, yet he didn't alert the UK authorities. Now the entire family have been
rehoused at the taxpayer's expense and are in hiding. He goes on to say,
there's no way Axel Rudikabana's parents didn't know he was planning jihad.
Their house was littered with weapons of terror,
including arrows, ricin and blades, all on full display.
They effing knew all of them.
And certainly looking at Axel Rudikabana's bedroom,
it is hard to believe that your son was not plotting something absolutely appalling.
Conor Tomlinson, who was here on Outspoken discussing this last week,
has done a bit more work over the weekend,
writing that the BBC have confirmed that Axel Rudicabana's father did not
report his son to the police after stopping him from travelling to his former school a week before
the Southport murders. Rudicabana planned to stab school pupils on the last day of term.
Asked about the incident, a spokesperson for Lancashire Constabulary, in whose area the
Rudicabana family lived, said this wasn't reported to the Lancashire police.
Merseyside police, who are still carrying out an investigation, said they could not comment.
And Connor asks, why did his parents not hand their son over to the police and save the lives
of those girls? They repaid the kindness shown to them by Britain in granting them asylum eight years after the Rwandan genocide by bringing up a killer. And it does feel like maybe, just maybe,
the mainstream media are turning their attention to Rudy Cabana's father. However,
Charlie Downs, it's quite shocking, isn't it, that there hasn't been much, much more focus on this,
much, much more focus on why Ruta Gabbana's family was in the country in the first place,
the family's connection to the Rwandan regime, exactly what the family had done to report their
son to authorities. We know the police had been there numerous times,
but was that good enough?
And I guess it also raises the question now, Charlie,
should the family be allowed to stay or do we need to deport them to Rwanda?
It's funny, isn't it, Dan?
I remember distinctly during the election,
on a number of occasions,
Keir Starmer spoke of the virtue of
transparency and said that he would be a bringer of transparency. But this entire story from top
to bottom has been, has had, you know, it stinks to high heaven. Why don't we know more about,
you know, about the family, about the circumstances under which they were allowed to come into and
settle in our country? I mean, there are various unproven, I should say,
reports that suggest one, perhaps that Rilkebaena's family was in some way
involved or associated with the genocide in Rwanda. There are unconfirmed reports that
Keir Starmer himself may have had something to do with them being settled in the UK when he was a
human rights lawyer. You know, and the fact that the government seems intent on just keeping their mouths shut and not actually giving the public any information
about this, it leads us to speculate. It leads us to ask, well, this is all very weird. The way that
this case has been treated seems uniquely, I mean, there seems to be a unique level of fear in the
government itself about information getting out. So you have to ask, well, who actually is implicated in this?
Who is perhaps now currently in a position of power
is implicated in this family being here?
And just on the topic of them being deported now,
I mean, I find it impossible to believe
that the parents didn't have some idea of what's going on,
especially if you're living in a house with somebody.
You know your children, you know what they get up to.
Even if you don't know for sure, you can get an idea,
you can look at the pictures of the, you know, the squalid conditions that they were living in.
And as you say, the items strewn across the house, you know, the parents would have an idea.
And yet nothing was done. So I think that certainly grounds at the very least for some
kind of prosecution, because let's not forget that Rudy Cabana was 17 years old when he carried
out the attack.
He was still legally a child and therefore the responsibility should indeed
fall to the parents.
This is something I think that needs to be, you know,
it needs to be a far more wide conversation when it comes to crime of this
nature in general,
because obviously let's not forget that kids are getting stabbed on the
streets of London every week, you know,
every other day at this point by other kids, you know,
these are minors who are stabbing each other to death on the streets of England. And it always, you know, every other day at this point by other kids. You know, these are minors who are stabbing each other to death on the streets of England.
And it always, you know, the parents have to be part of that equation.
There has to be a conversation about the absolute dereliction of duty that parents in this country are kind of giving to raise people like this.
It's ridiculous. But, you know, somehow I don't think this conversation is going to happen in the mainstream. No, I mean, so much to pick up on there.
Obviously, the fact that he was 17 years old, living at home, meant that he was unable to
receive a whole life sentence.
So absolutely, the family's action should be part of it.
Peter McIlvenna, one of the issues that I've got is the mainstream media just doesn't seem
to want to report on the parents at all.
Again, they hide behind contempt of court, but absolutely not.
No charges have been brought against the parents.
Surely it is our job to do all of the investigation into why this apparently angelic choir boy was radicalised.
And the parents are a big part of that.
It's weirdly over one day become changes from an angelic choir boy,
as you can see on the right, to a psychopathic killer on the left
with no reason why he has done it.
But, I mean, Charlie is right that we have opened ourselves up
and we have welcomed people in.
And yet there is no expectation or requirement I mean, Charlie is right that we have opened ourselves up and we have welcomed people in.
And yet there is no expectation or requirement to integrate into British society.
And my big concern is whenever you bring over cultures where it's maybe a shame and honour culture,
that actually if something is going wrong within that part of society, within that culture, within that ghetto,
and you look at London, and I'm sure it's the same for major cities across the UK,
we live in a ghetto-wide society.
There is zero integration, and successive governments have allowed that to happen, which means that the police and local authorities have little input, little access,
little understanding of what is happening in those closed communities.
Is that a part to play?
Because to me, if something is going wrong, then you actually have a duty, a sense of responsibility to report it to the police.
Even if that is a loved one, you must do your duty. But if we are bringing people into this country who have no duty, who have no
responsibility to this country, then why shouldn't they just deny everything and cover things up?
Because they don't feel part of this country. They're here maybe for a while. They've got
protection. But actually, they're not married to this country. They're not part of this nation. They don't have an identity here.
And that is my concern. The values that I was brought up in, that it is fairness.
It is actually if you see something wrong, you should stand up for the underdog.
That you need actually to go to the police if you see something wrong.
You've got a responsibility as a citizen. And we are moving towards importing huge amounts of people
who don't have that same understanding
as a citizen.
And again, that conversation will not be had
if we are talking about,
well, it's because someone smoked some marijuana.
Literally, is that the issue we face?
No, it is integration.
It is cultures living side by side in silos, in ghettos.
And they have no understanding what it means to be in this country.
Many people don't speak English.
Therefore, they don't even have access to the parts of this nation,
to the police, to the legal system.
They don't even read the media.
Therefore, they're utterly isolated.
And that happens with many of the women who come over,
many of the wives.
And it seems, though, that the children are also part of that ghetto.
But again, we will never know,
because this government have refused to let us have a proper trial.
But Charlie, what we do know is that there has been
absolutely no apology from these parents.
There has been no explanation from the Rudacabana family.
And from all of my research, what I can certainly tell is that this is a family that was treated very well by this country.
Rudacabana's younger brother,
I'm not going to use the picture of him, I don't think that's fair, but he is disabled. And the British public raised a huge amount of money to help with his disability. I imagine he will have
got a huge amount of treatment from the NHS. At the very least, I expect an apology from the Rudacabanas,
and I expect an explanation. And by the way, that's at the very least, because to be honest,
there may well need to be criminal charges. But isn't it fascinating that we have heard
not a peep, and apparently the family are now on hiding again at taxpayers expense.
Let's just be completely charitable for one moment here.
Let's assume that the Rudi Kuban family wants to make an apology and wants to come out and disavow the actions of their son and apologise personally to all of the families and the dozens of people, hundreds, thousands of people, millions of people even, that have been affected by this incident.
Let's assume they do want to do that.
Do we really think this government would allow that?
I really don't.
I think that this culture of censorship and silencing that has come to characterise Keir Starmer's tenure,
I don't think it would allow the family to come out and say anything
because I think they want this to all just go away.
I think that they want it to be forgotten about.
You know, the news cycle now has moved on
and they like it that way.
Rudy Cabana's in prison.
He's going to be there for at least 52 years.
And that's kind of it.
And I really think that it's in their interest
that something isn't said.
And that I think is really, really depressing
in and of itself.
But, you know.
It is.
And of course, so much of this
is about the mainstream
media guys because look at this uh report about the terrible rape gang in scotland and by the way
i want every single one of the scumbags absolute scumbags in this photo to rot in hell. And let me say that very clearly, first of all. However,
I do think it is very interesting, Charlie, that all of a sudden, all of a sudden, the BBC,
the British bashing corporation seems to be very interested in covering this particular rape gang as breaking news,
having ignored all of the other rape gangs.
What's the difference, Charlie?
Do they think we're stupid?
Well, the whole two-tier thing goes around
and I think it's become a little bit of a sensationalised label.
But it's very clear that there is a double standard
across the various arms of the power structure that governs Britain.
And that doesn't just begin and end with the kind of public facing elected element of government in the commons.
That is everything from the civil service to the education system, to the media itself.
It doesn't want to admit that the project of multiculturalism has not only failed,
but has pretty much destroyed a lot of the social fabric of this country. And so when there is
an opportunity to point the finger at a group of white people, quite frankly, a lot of the social fabric of this country. And so when there is an opportunity
to point the finger at a group of white people, quite frankly, who are doing the same things,
then they will quite gladly do that. Because to even broach the notion, to even, you know,
concede the idea that there are qualitative differences between different groups of people
and different cultures is to admit tacitly that multiculturalism was a stupid idea to begin with.
Because if we do admit that there are regions of the world,
peoples, religions, ideologies, etc.,
that make places worse when they are allowed to proliferate,
then the whole project, the whole notion of bringing in
everybody from every corner of the world
is revealed to be a completely, you know, destructive idea.
And so, you know, when an excuse does come around to point the finger at some people who are indigenous to this country, I think they will quite happily take it because, you know, that essentially serves to reinforce their narrative.
So much easier, isn't it? But look, the great thing is, Peter, we have the independent media. We have social media.
Look at this post from Paul Thorpe, which has gone viral over the weekend.
I think it made a really fundamentally important point.
He wrote, this must never be allowed to go away.
After spending seconds in Southport for a photo opportunity, the PM scurried off to
attend a party.
Serena Kennedy then misled the public.
This is misconduct.
This is unacceptable.
They should both resign.
But perhaps the most striking thing there, Peter,
is just a reminder that at that moment,
she knew and he knew.
And they misled us.
But Keir Stomer looks so sad there.
He looks so serious.
He's really hurting.
And Paul Thorpe does an excellent job.
He was on with me a week ago on Hearts Evoked, just to plug that.
But you're right that whenever I look at the rape charges
and rape sentencing.
In Bradford,
on the 17th it was,
so 10 days ago,
there was a group of men,
nine men in Keighley,
and one of them was sentenced
to three years for rape.
Another one was sentenced
to 11 years for nine cases of rape.
We simply are failing
to address these evils
in our society.
And we have a judicial system
that seems to disregard
one of the most callous,
one of the most evil
parts of society,
which is rape.
And that's why only 1.5%
of all the allegations
that are made by women
actually end up in a prosecution.
And either Keir Starmer, along with every concerted government,
is saying 98.5% of women are lying,
or else they're saying we simply do not care
because they could put in the resources to tackle this.
And it is a failure of putting the resources where it matters.
We have only limited resources,
but our governments decide
that there are certain crimes
that actually are serious
and ones that are not.
And whether it's an online post,
that is a serious one.
If it's rape,
then actually that's less serious.
And if it's a murder,
we'll never find out.
And it is sickening
that it is all for a photo op um that they turn up for the picture
and then disappear and long gone are the days where we had politicians actually had conviction
and it is now about publicity it is all about the news cycle is all about getting your picture in
and moving on and sadly that's where we are as a society breaking right now reform uk now top of the
national poll average this is a bit of history in the making folks and of course rupert low
who some people within trump world believe el Musk is backing to potentially replace Nigel Farage before the next election as leader,
has said that this country needs to unleash a wave of punishment measures similar to what Trump just did to Colombia over the weekend. He said, this is the way we must follow,
starting with the £133 million going to Pakistan and foreign aid, use that to get foreign rapists
and criminals out of our country. So Charlie Downs, this reform UK poll surge is not a surprise in lots of ways.
I mean, I certainly predicted it even before the last election.
There was always going to be so much unhappiness about the reality of a socialist hellscape being unleashed by slippery Starmer.
However, what's very interesting is this idea that actually Reform UK could sweep this thing. What do you make of it?
And also, do you think there are potentially some tensions growing between Farage and Rupert Lowe?
Well, there's a number of things to say here. First of all, I agree. I'm not surprised that
Reform are absolutely, you know, storming ahead in the polls, because they're really the only,
you know, non-establishment option that ising ahead in the polls, because they're really the only, you know,
non-establishment option that is actually viable in British politics, because you look at the state of the Conservative Party, and their leadership, and their lack of direction, and their lack of
energy and enthusiasm, lack of anything concrete, really. And it's no surprise that people are
flocking to reform. With that being said, you know, I'm a member of the party, I have supported
the party for a number of years, which is not to say I haven't been said, you know, I'm a member of the party. I have supported the party
for a number of years, which is not to say I haven't been critical of the party, because I
think that it is the duty of the party's biggest supporters to point out where they're going wrong.
I do think that there needs to be now a conversation about reform transitioning from
being a populist party into a party of government. And I'm sure those conversations are happening on
the inside. I actually published a video today, which I would encourage viewers to go and watch,
talking about the problem with populism, because populism, you know, it's a very effective
rhetorical technique. It's very effective to give the crowd what it wants and to kind of gin them
up and all the rest of it. But if that's not followed up with real substantive policy and
action, as we're seeing from the Trump administration, then that kind of doesn't
really mean anything.
So I think that there is a real appetite now for some real some real meat, some real substance from reform, which I'm sure we will get.
But until we can hope until the Conservative Party gets its act together, I think we are going to see reform continue to grow.
And I think that's great because I think we need to break this kind of two party system that we've had,
because there's really a head's breadth that separates the Labour and Conservative parties. I mean, it's just been since Labour took office, a continuation of the same project, the same style of governance,
the same ideas about what good governance looks like. So yeah, I think Britain's ready for
something different. And can I just say, can I just say, Charlie, I would be very happy to have
Nigel Farage as Prime Minister and Rupert Lowe as
home secretary, for example. That would work fine for me, actually. So I think it's important
that the party does stay united. But what I do like about Rupert is he is a man of action.
And you're right, action here is very important. Now, you raise the prospect of the conservative party being finished certainly Kemi Badenoch
has not made an impact I thought she was going to be useless she has been useless there was
incredibly embarrassing moment over the weekend where she was asked about why she picked this
battle with Nigel Farage and Reform UK over their membership numbers. Peter McElvina, I'll get you to respond,
but first, can we just have a look at Kemi yet again
having a car crash moment in the MSM?
You accused the Reform Party of exaggerating their membership numbers.
How many members does the Conservative Party have now?
We do not release our membership numbers.
I know what they are.
Well, why not?
Because you were happy to have a go at Nigel Farage saying that he had artificially
inflated his and then Reform UK took people in to go and look at how many members they have.
Wouldn't it make people feel reassured if you were willing to be transparent about your own
membership? It's really important that we focus on the things that matter. I made a comment on
Boxing Day. It does, but it doesn't matter to people out there. I've been travelling around
the country. I was in Devon on Friday. I've been in the Midlands.
People are crying out for help.
They tell me that they are struggling.
They're not interested in the Westminster bubble gossip
of who has more members.
I made a comment on Boxing Day and I went back to my Christmas
and I actually found it quite funny,
the number of people who were spending time on that.
Most people were spending time with their families.
That's what was important to me.
But, Peter, she started it. time on that. Most people are spending time with their families. That's what was important to me.
But Peter, she started it!
Look, I remember
when I worked in City Hall
with the UKIP team there
and Kemi did impress
me with what she,
with her work in City Hall.
She was opinionated. She knew
what she stood for, had convictions.
That's something that I certainly missed in British politics.
So I thought it was really positive whenever she was dropped in that safe seat in Parliament.
And I was expecting a lot more.
So maybe I had more hope for her, Dan, than you did.
But you're right.
Don't pick a fight you're not willing to back up.
And to attack Nigel and to refuse to back up your corner on figures is horrendous.
And I don't know whether she has got bad advisors.
I mean, if you do not make your position in the first 100 days, then you're lost.
And as good as I wish Kemi may be, I think she is much more within her.
But she's failed. She's passed her 100 days.
And that means that she hasn't dissed herself from other failures of 14 years off Tory rule.
And she hasn't given an alternative to Keir Starmer.
And that's why reform have swooped in.
And reform have had a really easy route. Nigel's done exceptionally well, of course, in building reform to where it currently is. But all they've had to say is we are slightly better's the FPU, that's what they have all said in Europe.
And he backed off and said, no, no, that's not part of it.
And whenever he was asked about Islam and that clash,
how Islam treat women is horrendous, is disgusting.
And we let Sharia courts operate in the UK.
We let Sharia councils, Sharia finance, all of that happens.
And the treatment of women is horrendous.
And he was asked about that as he
doesn't want to make an enemy of Islam
meaning he doesn't want to speak
truth and isn't willing to stand
on his feet and what it means to
be British and have British values
backed by a Christian
Judeo underpinning.
So I think Reform are aware
they are not necessarily
because of their great policies,
but they're there because of a weak Conservative Party.
And we've got over four years to run.
It's irrelevant who leads Labour because if Keir Starmer isn't there,
well, we'll have David Lammy, Angela Rayner, and we'll just go from bad to worse.
But that's irrelevant because they have got a majority.
Or even worse, Sadiq Khan.
And look, this really is clown world what is going on with him.
Susan Hall, who ran against Khan as the conservative candidate for the mayoralty,
has really been putting him under fire over his total refusal to even acknowledge, even acknowledge the possibility that there are
Pakistani Muslim rape gangs in London, which let me assure you, there are. She tried again
this week. His response will disgust you. Watch this.
Since last week, somebody has actually explained to you what a grooming gang is and how horrific
they are. So since somebody now must have told you exactly what they are, are you going
to ask that some money is ring-fenced to actually look into that in London? So the next time
I ask you about grooming gangs, you can tell me what the Metropolitan Police are doing
about them.
Well firstly, it's really important when you have a conversation of this nature you think about the victims of child sexual
exploitation. I'm on a clock can you just give the answer will you? Will you make sure
some money is ring-fenced to look at this grooming gang problem we have? Yes
or no? I'm really surprised that the member doesn't know how operational independence works in our police service in this country.
You should never be surprised, Mr Mayor.
You're not going to answer. Thank you, Chairman.
Just disgusting.
Just utterly appalling, Peter.
And I remember when we were in City Hall,
we put forward an FOI to every police force across the country
and actually to every council in London
to ask them
about grooming gangs and whether that was
an issue for them, whether they
have had any engagement, whether there are any
prosecutions and
every single one of them says no
we have not happening in
our borough. Now to say
this not happening in every borough
in London, 26 boroughs and they don't have a
single issue of grooming gangs.
I can't accept that. That has to be a lie.
And the anger that Sadiq Khan riles up within me, I have to contain myself because he is despicable.
The individual who is supposed to care for Londoners, all he cares about is his DEI policies and is not worried about rape,
about knife culture, about
gang culture. He actually ignores
all of that. And Susan Hall's
question was absolutely normal. Put some money
ring fence and he refuses to even
consider. Well, last week he refused to even
acknowledge what they are. And Charlie, actually
just before I get you to weigh in on this,
continuing the clown world
this weekend was the left-wing commentator, Norinda Kerr.
Now, you'll remember that it emerged in these shocking leaked figures from Thames Water that at least one in 12 folk in London are an illegal immigrant. Narendra went to a pub, right?
Had a look around and decided that the fact that she could only see white
faces, although tellingly,
she didn't actually prove that there were only white faces in this pub.
We meant to take her word for it,
but that proved that there were just no illegals in London at all.
Charlie, have a watch of this and I'll get your response.
So I am in a pub in north london it's packed
and it's just clear to me my husband that we are the only people of color in this pub which is fine
that no one's back and i live but the point being this whole um what the telegraph put out
this report that one in 12 in london, I'm in London, I live here,
and we're in a pub and it's packed
and everyone in here is white.
So, happy London.
Charlie, so just no issue, no issue whatsoever
because Narendra claims she's in a pub with white people.
Yeah, I would cautiously suggest
that the asylum seekers, so-called, that come across the channel aren't hanging around in, you know, in the king's head and having a pint of ale.
Right. The pub is a distinctly English institution full of distinctly English people for the most part.
So, I mean, obviously, this is deeply dishonest. But that clip of Sadiq Khan and Susan Hall going back and forth.
I mean, Peter, I agree with you. I just can't stand the man. I actually was involved in an independent mayor of London campaign last year.
It was a lot of fun. And I met Sadiq Khan very briefly. But he is just such an unpleasant individual.
Although I've got to say, I mean, Susan Hall was the Conservative candidate for mayor of London last year.
And I mean, where was where was this Susan Hall? I mean, she was astonishingly weak when she was going up against Khan on the campaign trail.
But now, I mean, she's given it both barrels. It's actually quite impressive and commendable to see.
But, you know, I mean, I think every now and then in public life, there are these figures that emerge that kind of they embody a certain aspect of the current sort of political or cultural paradigm that we live in. And Sadiq Khan is one such figure. He will be remembered as being a kind of totemic figure when this period of
history is reported in 200, 300 years time, because he embodies almost everything that's wrong with
Britain in the 21st century. He is an immigrant. He is someone who is here as a guest. He is here
because of the good nature of the British people who have seen fit to allow in an enormous number of people from all over the world.
And what does he do with that generosity? Well, he decries British and English identity.
He suggests that the British are not a people at all and that Britishness is simply an idea.
It's simply a set of values. He says that, you know, diversity, so-called, is what makes London great and is not.
I mean, you know, let's say, for example, the hundreds, thousands of years of history of people who broke their backs working to build up that city and the culture in it.
He, you know, this is to mention nothing of the rates of murder and rape and burglary and assault that go uninvestigated under his watch in London.
The Metropolitan Police is not fit for purpose anymore.
London is an astonishingly dangerous city.
It's not somewhere that I would want to live.
I'm fortunate enough to not live there.
It's not somewhere that I'd want to raise a family.
It's not somewhere that I'd want my, you know, my fiance walking by herself at night.
And that's all because of his mismanagement.
Totally. Totally.
Absolutely.
He has single-handedly destroyed the world's greatest city.
I was walking down Oxford Street in London on Saturday and all I could think was,
it just feels like I'm about to be mugged or be stabbed.
In all seriousness, that is how you feel now
because London is just such a hellhole and
it is so unsafe and that is literally down to one man boris johnson did a good job as london mayor
but look charlie and peter stand by big developments on two of these witch hunts that's my description
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of these stories. When it came to Noel Clarke, The Guardian launched simply a witch hunt against him.
It was based on no real evidence, but it totally destroyed his career. And I've got to know Noel,
and I know that what was claimed was completely untrue and unfair. So I'm going to come to that big revelation
shortly. But first, Russell Brand has spoken in some detail on his own platform for the first time
since it emerged that the so-called claims against him were to be handed to the CPS. Now you'll remember Channel 4 and the Times
worked in conjunction with the Metropolitan Police to hunt high and low for any woman
who was prepared to say Russell Brandt had done something wrong to them. Now as he points out
there was a real motivation behind this and I think it is worth hearing from Russell directly.
Watch.
For years, my promiscuity was exploitative.
As a famous rich dude, sleeping around, having sex in bathrooms,
sleeping with multiple people at once,
using the fact that I had massive access to having sex with strangers
and was doing it, that's pretty crazy and excessive.
And there's no question that that is sinful,
broken behaviour that hurts people.
And I beg for forgiveness, and I'm given forgiveness,
and I beg for salvation.
But what happened in this weird liminal space
is that behaviour got metastasised
and reformed retrospectively into criminal conduct
by competing media companies,
working with groups like Logically and Crisp,
working with legacy media companies,
collaborating in an unprecedented way in order to go back to,
for years and years, talk to people like,
have you got a story about Russell Brand?
What about that?
Well, other people have bravely come forward.
What if we shift that?
What if we shift this a little bit?
What if we tweak that? Now it goes from this a little bit? What if we tweak that?
Now it goes from instead of being a heel and a fool and greedy
and in some aspects of the code, a playboy, a womanizer,
a gadabout, a player.
Suddenly it was reformed into,
no, this guy's not like all those other famous womanizers
that we know are out there
that sometimes have to put out injunctions,
that sometimes have to pay lawyers a lot of money to keep stories quiet.
No, you're in this different category here, all of a sudden,
of the most appalling criminals known.
All the while, in my country now, there's this explosion
that there are actual grooming gangs that are raping and abusing little girls and young women at an almost
institutional and inconceivable level and it appears that the media and government have repressed
and ignored those stories for reasons that I find difficult to understand but they're sort of a loose
way of describing it. Peter McIlvenna and Charlie Downs join me now. Peter Russell has
a real argument here, doesn't he? Because the mainstream media covered these allegations
against him far more than they ever did the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. It was a witch hunt.
He absolutely was not a perfect man. He has admitted
that. However, his behavior, as far as I could tell, was certainly not criminal. Obviously,
it will be tested in court, but he has a presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
But at the time of these actions, the mainstream media was celebrating him.
He was a Lothario. He was the son's shagger of the year.
I'm really conflated over Russell Brand. I really am.
And I hope and pray that his conversion, his change is true.
I hope he has left that lifestyle behind.
And I do hope he's a Christian because his level of profile can be a very positive thing for society and not what he used that for before.
So we can all change.
Look, as a Christian, that's the Christian message that you can change.
No matter what your past is, you can leave that behind and you can be a new person in Christ.
So I hope, really hope that's true. But I kind of can't get away from remembering who he was like
and what he was like and really not liking him as an individual. That could be because he was on the different side
of the political spectrum.
But even if what he didn't do was illegal,
you kind of, if that's how you're going to live,
then you can't complain when that comes back at you.
I mean, you live by the sword, you die by the sword.
And if that is your lifestyle,
if anything goes of utter perversion,
then you cannot complain if that comes back to haunt you.
So I don't know whether
he will have to pay a price for that
because it doesn't matter
if you have changed individually,
if you've turned over a new leaf,
you still have to make recompense
and you still have to do right
for what you've done in the past
and you can't run away from that.
But you're right,
the media have targeted him in a way that others have not been targeted
because he's high profile.
He sells papers.
And this is all about publicity for the media.
And it is not about justice.
So I'm really torn.
I really am.
And as much as I don't believe that his new conversion is true,
I hope I am proved wrong.
Charlie, what is interesting when it comes to Brand, though,
is that it's indisputable that the mainstream media
only targeted him once he was questioning the COVID narrative,
once he was questioning the Ukraine narrative,
once he was questioning the big pharma narrative. I mean, that is a fact. Before that, he was questioning the Ukraine narrative, once he was questioning the big pharma narrative.
I mean, that is a fact.
Before that, he was their hero.
When he was supporting Ed Miliband and Owen Jones,
they loved the guy.
I actually think there is a real lesson in this story
because like Peter, I too am somewhat sceptical of brand.
I'm not given to sort of giving entertainment industry types the benefit of the doubt, quite frankly.
And as much as the kind of Me Too stuff has absolutely in the past been used to defame and destroy the lives of men who are completely innocent.
I mean, I think of the case, for example, of Emma Sulkowicz, the so-called mattress girl. I don't know if you remember that about 10 years ago, this girl ran a sustained campaign against this guy that she was
just annoyed with because he wouldn't be her boyfriend. And certainly the Noel Clarke case
that we're going to come to shortly. Indeed. That is absolutely a witch hunt. But with that being
said, I mean, there are still legitimate cases in the entertainment industry in particular of just the exploitation and assault of the most gruesome type um and i think that what this tells us is that our leaders
political cultural etc our thought leaders shouldn't be people who are compromised and i
think that this is something that's only going to become more and more evident as time goes by
as real dissident radical movements continue to emerge, certainly in Britain.
I think we need leaders who are genuinely, morally, personally sound, you know, and I don't think
that's too much to ask for. But with that being said, I mean, you know, as well as I do, Dan,
the culture in the media and political industries, the drugs, the sex, the parties, all of it.
I mean, it's a disgusting, dirty hive of scum and villainy. And I think that's
concerning because it does mean that figures like Russell Brand, who has legitimately spoken the
truth, as you said, when it comes to things like the COVID narrative, is so easily taken down or
attacked or otherwise compromised. And I think that, you know, there's a lesson there.
No, indeed. Indeed, there is. I just think the targeting of brand was totally political. And that was very transparent because other people who have got away with that in. Trust me, they are going to end up paying
Noel Clarke a lot of money. Look at this revelation from the Mail on Sunday at the weekend. A woman
the Guardian newspaper alleges was groped by actor Noel Clarke has denied being assaulted by him in
evidence given on his behalf for a libel trial. So the Guardian didn't get this one right. And the problem is, and again, Peter, we'll go through all of this evidence much closer to the time.
However, the Guardian were so desperate to try and cancel Noel Clarke that what it meant is very often these allegations simply didn't happen.
And how embarrassing for them, how mortifying for them that a woman who they claimed was groped by Noel Clarke is going to be giving evidence on Noel Clarke's behalf saying, sorry, didn't happen.
And this is why you have to be careful with trial by media.
It is the danger of rushing to be an exclusive to get there first. And if you're wrong, these organisations,
these media outlets,
they can publish an apology
on page 30
that no one will ever see.
And they have deeper pockets
than individuals
and therefore they can fight that
through the legal system.
So it's not a level playing field.
And this is all,
whenever our government
talks about misinformation online,
they don't talk and point the figure at the legacy media
who really participate in misinformation to the nth degree
just to sell papers.
It's about advertising.
And there's very little constraints on them.
It's normally a slap over the wrist.
And these organisations, these media outlets,
can afford to pay some legal costs
because they make up their money elsewhere.
So there's no incentive for them to speak truth.
The only incentive for them is publicity and sales and clicks.
That is their incentive.
So it is infuriating whenever the government
point the finger at alternative media
and social media as the problem.
Actually, often the problem is in the legacy media.
Very good point. Very good point, Peter.
Charlie, let me just take you through just a couple of the specifics here
because it truly is astonishing, right?
So in legal papers that were filed by the Guardian newspaper,
it is alleged that a woman called Freya, but that wasn't her real name, was assaulted by Clark at a wrap party for the film The Knot in 2012. The newspaper claimed
Clark went up alongside her and groped her from behind through her dress in between her legs
without her consent. But during this pre-trial hearing, which was at the High Court last week,
Clark's legal team said Freya was one of three
people who feature in the Guardian's defense who are actually giving evidence in support of Clarke.
So the other two are an actor who is alleged to have sent Clarke a sex video that Clarke is
alleged to have shown a female actress and an actress who was said to have been directed by
Clarke to kiss a fellow actress. And the thing is, Charlie, and again, much more of this will come out in
court, and I have followed this case very, very closely, but it was the Guardian's absolute
desperate desire to cancel Noel Clarke that meant that they engaged in a witch hunt rather than
following the truth. You know, the police didn't even look at this, that there was nothing there,
and Noel Clarke still cannot work today
because the woke entertainment industry has cancelled him now this was a guy who used to
be a hero of the left he was pretty much outside of of idris elba held up as the most famous black
actor in britain a working class kid done good so I just think these trials by media have to stop.
I agree. I think the trial by media thing is a travesty. And I think what we forget, by the way,
is that, you know, you go on the Guardian's website and you'll immediately be harassed to
donate to them. Whenever you go on there, it's, oh, we're completely funded by our readers,
send us a fiver, et cetera, so that we can keep fighting the good fight for you um people don't realize that the guardian has a trust fund of
billions of pounds behind them they are a state adjacent media outlet read by all of the most
powerful people in britain so they're not going anywhere they might as well be they are effectively
structurally exactly the same as the bbc they are a mouthpiece of the state so this needs to be
thought of as being an arm of
the state going after a ordinary citizen. Now, with that being said, again, I'm not sort of I'm
not prepared to to give entertainment industry people the benefit of the doubt. I'm perfectly
prepared to believe that this guy is innocent because, you know, by the sounds of this case,
they've really made a hash of it. He's raised his, I think he's suing them for defamation for
two to seven million pounds, which I mean, to you and me, that's a hell of a figure. But to the
Guardian, that's a drop in the bucket, unfortunately. And I think that really is the lesson that we need
to take away here is that these organisations like the Guardian, it's actually very difficult
to hold them to account when they do things like this, because they have so much money, power,
connections behind them, that it's to take them down and to truly do damage to them, despite the fact that they have a waning readership, is actually very difficult.
Which then, you know, I think brings us back to the importance of alternative media.
And this is something that, you know, something I, this is something the three of us here today all are contributing to um you know we are building this alternative infrastructure for people to actually get real
information and actual truth that hasn't gone through hasn't passed through the filter of kind
of state censorship ultimately very very good point and obviously everyone should follow charlie
downs on x because you are doing great work there, Charlie, in the independent media space.
But we love having you part of Outspoken too.
And thank you so much to Peter McElvenna,
our fabulous superstar panel today.
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