Dan Wootton Outspoken - SOUTHPORT MASSACRE COVER UP GROWS WITH FARAGE & REFORM UK MPS GAGGED & DOUGLAS MURRAY FURY

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

There is growing fury over one of the biggest cover ups in British history over the Southport Massacre accused Axel Rudakubana. In his Digest, Dan has shocking information about the bid to gag MPs to protect the Prime Minister Keir Starmer, as Douglas Murray furiously refuses to be silenced on the issue. Then Dr Daniel Pitt weighs in. PLUS: The plot to shut GB News after the Ofcommunist issue the former free speech channel with a £100,000 fine AND: Growing concerns that Belmarsh’s new governor is trying to make Tommy Robinson’s life in prison hell, as Ezra Levant claims he is being put in a position where he’ll be killed by jihadist prison gangs To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show for 30-minutes extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Do click to subscribe to our brand new independent news source. Turn on the notification bell, then you'll be alerted to our new live shows, uncancelled interviews and royal specials too. Today, growing fury over one of the biggest cover-ups in British history over the Southport massacre accused Axel Rudigerbana. The government knew all along that this individual is a radicalised individual. He's got the facial hair to prove it. He's got the documentation to prove it. Goodness knows what they've got from his tech and his gadgets and the rest of it but it doesn't matter they all knew in my digest i have shocking information about the bid to gag mps to protect the prime minister keir starmer as douglas murray furiously refuses to be silenced on this issue, good on him, I'll

tell you what Douglas Murray has to say, then Dr Daniel Pitt weighs in. Plus, the plot to shut down GB News after the off-communists issued the former free speech channel with a £100,000 fine. And growing concerns that Balmarsh's new governor is trying to make Tommy Robinson's life in prison dangerous as Ezra Levent claims he has been put in a position where he could be killed by jihadist prison gangs. Tommy has been in Belmarsh prison before but the previous prison governor put Tommy in a special unit called the contingency suites where no other prisoners had access to him. It was the same prison within a prison where Julian Assange

was held. Now it's psychologically damaging to be in solitary confinement like that for so long but at least Tommy was allowed visitors and he knew he wouldn't be attacked. Then in the uncancelled after show according to Taz on Prince Harry's return to the spotlight without Meghan Markle, and information on how King Charles and Queen Camilla have recovered after their Australian and Samoan tour register at www.outspoken.live. And thank you so much for continuing to allow me to make this independent daily news show. Let's go. Among my words, the Southport massacre cover up is one of the biggest scandals in British history. authorities and mainstream media are going in order to stop all debate and all discussion on this topic is truly disturbing if not surprising we know they don't trust us mere

plebs with information that might impact social cohesion like the fact that the bloke accused of stabbing these three innocent young girls at a Taylor Swift dance class in Southport was reading Al-Qaeda terror manuals and producing ricin. But when our democratically elected representatives, who are meant to be protected by parliamentary privilege, when they are also silenced, seemingly to stop the Prime Minister being asked uncomfortable questions about what he knew when, then you know we are no longer a free society. And I mean that, because it is exactly what happened yesterday. My Reform UK sources tell me that their Deputy Leader Richard Tice

was planning to put two-tier care on the spot about his clearly misleading answers regarding Southport when he knew the details about Axel Rudik-Banner. I'm told the plan was really to stick it to the PM by asking, do you think the public is stupid but check this out given the way westminster works the speaker of the house lindsey hoyle feared that was the plan by reform uk and richard tice so he preempted that with an all-out ban i wish i wish to remind the house that the following Rwy'n gofyn i'r Tŷ y dyfodol o'r anodd anodd yma yng Nghymru ar 29 Fawrth. Mae'r arbenigwr yn ymchwil yn trawl ac mae wedi cael ei gyfrif â threfiadau cymaint. Mae'n golygu bod y cyfres o'r Tŷ yn ymgysylltiedig ac y bydd ystyriedau ddim yn cael eu gwneud i'r achos. Rwy'n gwybod bod pob un o'r aelodau yn hoffi gweld made to the case. I know that all honourable members wish to see justice done in this case.

It is therefore of paramount importance that nothing is said in this house which could potentially prejudice a proper trial. But asking what the Prime Minister knew when would not prejudice anything. Now, luckily, Reform UK had suspected that would be the case, though, so they came up with a clever way to subvert the ban. Richard Tice. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The government's own independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, Jonathan Hall Casey, has said repeatedly recently

that it is important in incidents of terrorism that the authorities put out more information sooner in order to prevent an information gap. Does the Prime Minister agree? Prime Minister. Mr. Speaker obviously I tread carefully in answering this question for the very reasons that you yourself set out at the beginning of this session. I think it's very important, first and foremost, that in all cases, including the particularly difficult case that the Speaker mentioned earlier, that the police and prosecutors are able to do their difficult job. And all of us in this House have a choice to make, including both candidates to be the next Tory leader.

They can either support the police in their difficult task or they can undermine the police in their difficult task. I know which side I'm on. Late till blitz. Despite that holier-than-thou attitude it was the prime minister yet again playing politics with the southport massacre and he has been protected by his friends in parliament and the msm because they're all too terrified to touch the story. GB News presenters, for example, have been told not to even mention a Southport cover-up. That is madness. And how has not one journalist asked the Prime Minister or Chancellor today, they're literally sitting in front of these

guys, what did you know? That's it. The fact they haven't is proof, folks, that they are all in this together. Now, thank goodness there are a few people within the establishment with the balls to challenge this madness. And the Daily Telegraph is one of the only newspapers covering the story, reporting there is pressure on StarMater to reveal what he knew about Southport and when. In a statement provided to the Daily Telegraph, the former Home Secretary, Dame Priti Patel, said, Southport was a terrible tragedy that shocked and appalled the country. At the time, the public and politicians were asking serious questions and yet the government chose not to come to Parliament or ask the searching questions needed. It is not plausible for the police, Home Secretary, Prime Minister

not to have known about the suspect's background until this week. This detail would have materialised within two to three days of such a devastating and serious incident, with the entire security apparatus focusing on finding answers to key questions. Yvette Cooper and Sir Keir Starmer need to explain what they knew when and also explain their subsequent approach to the protests that took place at the time as they were the ones who did not come to parliament or address the legitimate questions people were asking. Now that is such a significant intervention there. And I really praise Priti

Patel for that intervention. She is the only conservative politician outside the two leadership candidates, Kami Badenoch and Robert Jenrick, who have. And of course, she knows she was Home Secretary. She knows about all of this. But how is Priti Patel's intervention not rating a mention on any other news service all day nothing on sly news nothing on the british bashing corporation nothing on the captured and cowering gb news so honestly i can't tell you how important this independent media revolution that i'm part of is going to be and that's why i am so grateful you are supporting outspoken because we have to ask the questions that the MSM won't and now that MPs won't be allowed to ask Katie Hopkins summed up the situation well today the government

knew all along that this individual is a radicalized individual he's got the facial hair to prove it he's got the documentation to prove it goodness knows what they've got from his tech and his gadgets and the rest of it but it doesn't matter they all knew which means kirstama and yvette cooper and all the rest of them with their flowers and their sad faces all knew at the same time point two as they all knew they were prepared to lie to your faces so they pushed out deliberately the government the powerful the controlling religious organizations the money the establishment the different religions that work together with certain religions to control everything, pushed out what they wanted you to believe. Ooh, Welsh Christian.

Ooh, look at the pictures of him in the choir. Ooh, look at the pictures of him as a young child. There are a couple of guiding lights in the mainstream media. One is Alison Pearson at the Daily Telegraph, the other Douglas Murray, who wrote in Today's Spectator, there are certain rules in British public life that are worth noting, such as this one. If someone is killed by a jihadist or someone who could plausibly be connected to immigration in any way, the British public will not be informed of the possible motive, or at least not until it becomes impossible to conceal it any longer. Certain rules follow on from this.

One is that wise heads will inform anyone who does mention a likely motive that they must be exceptionally careful not to prejudice any forthcoming trial. There then comes an insistence that there will be a time and a place to debate these things. Quite often that time and place never arrives. And this is when people can surmise something with considerable accuracy. If the attacker had been a far-right extremist of the kind we are told of so often and had shouted, I'm doing this for Oswald Mosley, then we would have heard about it. If the attacker had said all Taylor Swift fans must be killed, we might also have heard about it. But there was silence.

Brilliant from Douglas Murray. And the thing is, that is one of the biggest disturbing issues with this cover-up. All of the usual suspects, including Yvette Cooper, including Keir Starmer, are hiding behind contempt of court laws that they don't give a damn about when talking about non-Islamist criminals. As Paul Embry wrote on his sub stack, after discovering the Rison and Al-Qaeda manual, why didn't police declare Southport a terrorist incident? They say it's because they haven't established a motive, but that didn't stop them doing exactly that in other cases. What's going on? And Colin Brazier added,

ministers can't be allowed to ignore questions raised by Southport. In particular, they must explain the apparent discrepancy between instantly defining some lone wolf assailants as far right, while insisting on delays and stressing mental health when it suspects Islamism. But that is exactly what the Speaker Lindsay Hoyle stopped yesterday. Just think about this for a second. It is now impossible, impossible for any MP to question the PM, or any minister actually, including Yvette Cooper, about anything to do with Southport until after the trial in January. There's a lot I know that I cannot report without being thrown in prison,

but I can at least talk about the cover-up. Now, there are already fears, by the way, that this trial could actually be pushed back by a number of months. It's meant to be in January. If that happens, you know why they want to push this discussion into the long grass for as long as possible. As Peter Whittle suggests for the new Culture Forum, the authorities are using our natural belief in justice to gaslight and mislead us. Now the authorities exploit our residual belief in the rule of law, yet they show no such respect for proper procedures themselves. Back in August they crowed about 1,000

arrests being made in the aftermath of the civil disorder which resulted from those deaths. Yet in that same tweet, they disgustingly referred to those charged as criminals. We all saw during this time how the law was pressed into action remarkably quickly. People were demonised by the government's handmaidens in the media. They were jailed for things written on social media. Since then, a protester who did nothing violent has died in jail. The authorities announced the new charges yesterday, a full three months after the atrocity, which left three children dead and another eight injured.

Now, a full sweep of Rudica Barna's house would have happened almost immediately. Rice-Inland terrorist instruction manuals would have been found. Yet for weeks weeks for months there was silence from the authorities it is hard to emphasize quite how big a scandal this is I agree with Peter Whittle this is one of the biggest scandals of our time one of the biggest cover-ups of our time. But what the problem is, is that we now have a mainstream media infected by the woke mind virus who believe that their job is to protect their guys. And their guys are Keir Starmer and Yvette Cooper.

The fact that Yvette Cooper is grilled by her own husband, Ed Balls, himself a former Labour cabinet minister, and that is considered acceptable by Ofcom, or the Ofcommunists as I call them, tells you that they are all in this together. But here's the thing. Those in power can only keep this story covered up for so long. Axel Rudekaber will eventually face trial. And we will never forget that this is what they did. Now, the uncancelled interview. and i'm delighted to be joined today by the academic and author who writes for conservative home the critic magazine conservatives magazine and the tory reform group dr daniel pitt

dr pitt's so great to have you on the show today how do do you feel about the Southport Massacre cover-up? Well, thanks for having me, Dan. Much appreciated. Last time that we saw each other was at the Freedom Festival at the University of Buckingham, organised by the Margaret Thatcher Centre. And that just reminds me of essentially what's... The concept of freedom has radically changed our country. And the freedom now, the freedom of the press and the idea of consent has changed. The idea of that policing, the Peelite, from Robert Peel, tradition of policing by consent. You cannot give your consent to something that you are not informed about.

You cannot consent to a certain type of policing if you are not informed about it. So it fundamentally undercuts our conception of what policing should be in our country, which is disturbing at times. How do I feel about it? Well, as a father of three young children, I am very, very... It's emotional. Actually, physically, I feel it tightening of the chest about this, to think about those children who were enjoying their favourite singer. I'm a Swifty, but I'm more of a Jonathan Swift chap

rather than a Taylor Swift chap. But to think that something wholesome of enjoying a party, listening to pop music, and this comes in. And this is what the thing about it, it feels so alien. It feels so alien to our culture um that this attack would happen and that's why you we wanted to dive deeper into that what were the reasons what's the motive behind this attack and who is who is doing it no indeed and look you speak about policing and policing by consent. So what I want to do is take a look at a few videos from over that period and get you to analyse whether we were being told the truth or whether we can now categorically say this was part of cover up. So I will start by showing you the Home Secretary Yvette Cooper now this was in Parliament after the Southport massacre and when there was unrest on the streets I mean I like the

fact that Priti Patel called them protests actually rather than riots because I don't think they're riots but that's a separate discussion but this is what Yvette Cooper had to say in Parliament. Extrem's extremely important that people don't spread damaging misinformation online. False information has already been extensively shared in the last 24 hours. Those who do this for their own purposes risk undermining a crucial criminal investigation and I ask everyone to show some respect for the community in Southport and for families who are grieving and in trauma.

But Dr Daniel Pitt, they were not spreading misinformation as it turned out. Wasn't the government? It's fascinating the wording there, that it's very vague. You're meant to, you're assuming who the Home Secretary is directing it at. I think she's done that on purpose because you could say, who's the people doing the misinformation?

She's not saying who that is. Now, the information that we know now is that the misinformation could come from the government, from the police, or at the very least, that information has not been presented to the public who are, you could think of, informed adults, reasonable adults, that can then make their own decisions about the case going forward. But this is the point that it's actually very, very vague in the way that she does it. She doesn't specify who's actually sending it. It's just people online.

Indeed. Indeed. And then we actually have the police themselves and surely in a situation like this you should be able to trust the police but what was so concerning to me is that after the mersey side sorry after the southport incident we actually heard very little from the Merseyside police. There was certainly no condemnation of the specific attacker. As soon as the so-called riots happened, they took a completely different tone. I mean, it was the same thing with Yvette Cooper, but it was all about demonizing these people on the streets in a way that we simply do not hear

when they're talking about Islamist terrorism. So this is Serena Kennedy during the so-called riot. What I would say to those people who think they've got away with being involved in the disorder on Tuesday or on Saturday, you absolutely haven't got away with it. We are coming for you. Beth ydw i'n dweud wrth y bobl sy'n meddwl eu bod wedi cael eu hwyrdd â'r disawdder ar ddiweddau neu'r ddiweddau? Ni ydych yn cael eu hwyrdd â'r disawdder. Rydym yn dod i'ch rhan. Mae gennym ni gyfnod o ffoteg cymdeithasol, mae gennym ni gyfnod o ffoteg CCTV. Mae gennym swyddi yn gweithio o amser i ddysgu pwy ydych chi, lle rydych chi'n byw, lle rydych chi'n gweithio.

Rydym yn dod i'ch rhan. Byddwn yn dod i'ch rhan am y diwrnodau nesaf. Byddwn yn dod i'ch rhan am y diwrnod nesaf. Felly efallai y byddwch yn dod i'r diwrnod nesaf. Efallai y byddwch yn sefydlu â bwyd o ddŵr yn meddwl, the next few days we'll be coming for you for the next few months so you might get to next week you might be sitting with a cup of tea thinking phew i've got away with it please let me reassure you you haven't got away with it we are coming for you you will feel the full force of the law now i have real questions for chief constable serena kennedy for taking that type of approach because we never hear the police talking about Islamist terrorists in that way.

We know there's thousands of them up and down the country, Dr. Daniel Pitt, who are planning attacks. And we didn't hear her after Southport come out and say, if you attack our young girls at a Taylor Swift dance concert, you will be arrested. It really felt like the police were so comfortable to be strident when they were dealing with, let's be honest, predominantly white working class protesters. Well, when you did your digest at the very beginning, you mentioned about woke ideology. And in woke ideology, there is from like Michael Foucault, the left wing firebrand, there is the Frankfurt School and which drives from Marxism. And they say that there are there are two types of groups in society.

There are the oppressors and the oppressee. And you can see that this is included in the way that the police are dealing with these incidences, is that you've got to tread lightly when someone, a victim, or the purported person conducting their victim, they think it's a victim, is then going on

to commit crime because they're oppressed. It's society has done this, it's the West who's inflicted on this on them and inverted commas, far right people are not. They're oppressors.

They're oppressors. So when they do it, it's just blatantly full-blown crime. So you can see this ideology completely, and it warps the whole of our... So there's no sympathy. I think that's absolutely fascinating analysis, actually. There's no sympathy if you are a white working class protester who might be considered part of the far right because according to woke ideology which is by the way uh setting out to destroy the west i had a on ayan hershey ali the other day on the show talking about that but according to woke ideology you are guilty you are guilty effectively of historic crimes and actually if you're an attacker despite the fact that you have potentially invaded this country illegally uh putting our citizens at risk according to the woke ideology

you're still considered some sort of victim and i think you can really tell that in the tone of chief constable serena kennedy so we saw her talking during the riots. I now want to show you her press conference yesterday when she is announcing the new charges against Axel Rudikabana. Sorry, this was two days ago, that press conference. And her tone is completely different. Watch. Today, the Crown Prosecution Service has authorised Axel Rudikabana, aged 18, from Lancashire to be charged with two further offences.

Axel Rudicabana already faces three charges of murder, ten charges of attempted murder and one charge of possession of a knife, all relating to the Hart ar 29 Fawrth 2024. Mae'r ddau effeithiau ymhellach yn ymwneud â chyfnod oedd wedi'i gael gan y Golwg Merseyside yn ymchwil am adrannau'r adrannau lleol Axel Ruddicobarnau, fel rhan o ddysgu llenghau a chymhleth sydd wedi bod yn ymwneud o hyd i 29 Fawrth. Mae'r cyfrifion addysgol yn cynhy a biological toxin, namely ricin, contrary to Section 1 of the Biological Weapons Act 1974, and possession of information, namely a PDF file entitled Military Studies in the Jihad Against the Tyrants, the Al-Qaeda training manual. Dr. Pet Serena Kennedy went on to say that we shouldn't speculate, that we've all got to be very careful, of course. Contempt of court, I understand that. But also that despite that information that she revealed, the police still do not consider the Southport massacre,

which Axel Rudacabana has been charged, a terror attack because they can't establish motivation. It's nuts, isn't it? It does feel that way, that you treating these acts as separate. These are incredibly, incredibly serious offences, biological, essentially a weapon, and under the terrorist act. And then to see how they don't link together. I just I find that hard to. Well, indeed, indeed. And also, what about the fact that Rison is being produced at this residential

address? I mean, surely that constitutes a serious breach of public safety and that we do have a right to know before the trial. But I think one of the big problems here is that the mainstream media is so terrified now. And when I spoke to Robert Jenrick about this earlier in the week on the show, he's of course one of the two candidates for the Conservative Party leadership. I personally hope that he will be leader. The poll has now closed, so if you're a Conservative Party member, I hope you've voted and done the right thing.

But that's beside the point. What I respect here is that he is calling out the mainstream media because what we saw was them covering the Southport massacre in a very squeamish manner, which means they're not asking the questions that must be asked. I don't want people to be calling out incidents, you know, squeamishly or selectively, as we saw earlier in the summer. In fact, I want the media to be able to speak about these things much more openly than they are today. I'm worried that we are sliding

into the position that we see in some other European countries like Germany, where there is censorship, either by regulation or self-censorship, and serious crimes that are being committed, for example, by illegal migrants on the streets are not being covered properly, out of fear for community tensions and community cohesion issues. That is wrong. We need to be ensuring that our media are calling out what is happening, no veil of secrecy being drawn over what's happening on our own streets. That is letting the British public down.

And the thing is, Daniel, that I find it truly astonishing that there are journalists who have been sitting down over the past two days with senior government ministers, with the prime minister, with the chancellor of the exchequer, not with Yvette Cooper, I haven't seen anyone sit down with her but with all of those senior government figures and they have not asked one question about Southport and the problem is this is where groupthink comes in and the groupthink is oh Lindsay Hoyle said in the house we can't ask anything about this because we might be prejudicing the case well I'm sorry you

can because look at the statement from pretty patel she is a former home secretary she is not going to say anything that is going to prejudice an active court case but you can ask the question of what did you know when did you know this information why was it not released to the public? That will not prejudice any case. Well, groupthink is a huge problem in many of our institutions that people don't get to hear the opposite side of the arguments. And John Stuart Mill, a great Victorian liberal, he argued that was not just a negative outcome for the present, but also for the future generations that don't get to find out the truth. And unfortunately, in our legal systems, since essentially statute acts, going back to the new labour years, that you've gone from laws that protect the individual to actually speak to the person who's then the person who takes the offense and this is the big difference people are scared to offend

people they are scared to offend and because of that they don't speak up group think or continues and we don't therefore have the basic of truth coming out or even error that when when error actually is just as important of truth when we find out that we've we've erred and we've got things wrong clashing with the truth means that we can correct that and then the group think dissolves but that's the point if you if you get things wrong and you say the wrong thing that's it you are done cheerio you're cancelled oh yeah look i i know about that more than anyone else but the great thing is that i'm no longer part of any group thing i mean i think one of the reasons i was cancelled by the way is because i refused to be part of group thing.

But you're right, it's so appalling. Now, stand by, because coming up very, very shortly, a major update on Tommy Robinson's safety in Belmarsh Prison. You're not going to want to miss this. But first, breaking right now the off communists have imposed a 100 000 pound fine on my former employer gb news simply because they interviewed the prime minister now this is a major scandal that brings to mind so many questions about free speech in the UK, which is under serious threat. You've seen Elon Musk, the free speech owner of X,

point out which direction the UK is heading in as a result of these types of decisions. Let me be very clear. Right now, I am free. Yes, I am constrained by the big tech platforms on which I broadcast, but I am not regulated by the off communists. And the problem is because the off communists were so determined to shut GB News down. That is what they want, mark my words. That is what the establishment want. They do not want this broadcaster on air. What's happened is that GB News is now captured. They have capitulated.

They are terrified. Their presenters are told not to talk about the biggest issues of the day, including the Southport massacre cover-up, which means the whole point, the whole point of GB News, the whole reason that I was so proud to be the launch presenter on GB News is now gone. And without wanting to make this about me, because it's not just about me, but it is about the presenters who were prepared to challenge the free speech. They are Mark Stein. They are Calvin Robinson, Father Calvin Robinson, now a regular on this show. about the presenters who were prepared to challenge the free speech they are mark stein they are calvin robinson father calvin robinson now a regular on this show and yes they are lawrence fox and we know what happened with myself and lawrence fox and

it was our throwing under the bus by our bosses to try and satisfy the off communists that was the beginning of the end for GB News because appeasement never works folks they had to stand up and say no we're going to fight for the right to free speech that doesn't happen now I'm going to show you an incredible example in a few moments about what happened when Tommy Robinson was raised on the channel and Andrew Pierce basically peed his pants and they shut it down immediately. So GB News is in big trouble now because you can't trust it. You shouldn't trust it. And the off communists think they've got their way now let me take a close look now at both statements so offcom released one saying offcom's early investigation found that an appropriately

wide range of significant viewpoints was not presented and given due weight in the people's forum as a result we concluded that the then prime minister rishi sunak had a mostly uncontested platform to promote the policies and performance of his government. Now, remember, they are saying that, the off communists are saying that, despite the fact they refused to investigate, an interview conducted on Good Morning Britain, where the current Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper, this was in the wake of the Southport massacre, was questioned on air by her own husband. The bloke she goes to bed with at night, Ed Balls. And they found no issue with that.

Remember, Ed Balls isn't a journalist. It's a joke to say that Ed Balls is a broadcaster or a journalist. That's an offense to people like me. He's a politician. He's an activist. He was a Labour Party minister. But they say it's completely fine. No issues with Ed Balls interviewing his own wife, the serving Home Secretary. But GB News can't allow the public to ask questions of the serving Prime Minister Rishi Sunak. He was Prime Minister at the time. Now GB News has responded. I would say it's too little too late but I do want to show you their response. So this is from the Chief Executive

Angelo Frangopoulos. The announcement by Ofcom to impose sanctions upon GB News in relation to the People's Forum is a direct attack on free speech and journalism in the United Kingdom. We believe these sanctions are unnecessary, unfair and unlawful. The High Court has already granted GB News permission to bring a judicial review to challenge Ofcom's decision that the program was in breach of due impartiality requirements. The sanction imposed by Ofcom is therefore still subject to that legal challenge. The plan to sanction GB News flies in the face of Ofcom's duty to act fairly, lawfully and proportionately to safeguard free speech, particularly political speech, on matters of public interest. We have believed from the very start that People's Forum was an important piece

of public interest programming and that appropriate steps were taken to ensure due impartiality. But the issue is, GB News didn't take the same approach when it came to Mark Stein, who was raising questions about the safety of the COVID vaccine. That was an important piece of public interest journalism, but they were happy to give in to the off-communists. Now, Chris Davies of True Conservative Media, who's actually going to be on the show tomorrow, wrote on this, for the unteeped time, a lesson in not appeasing the crocodile, hoping you'll get eaten last. From being a staple with me until the dismissal of Mark Stein, to now zero eyeballs ever, GB News has been reduced to whimpering controlled opposition. Shame. Meanwhile, Dan Wooten goes from strength to strength on Outspoken.

I didn't just choose that because of that part, but I do appreciate it, Chris Davies. And in all seriousness, I know that if I were on GB News now, I would have not been able to deliver the digest that I delivered today about the cover-up involving the Southport massacre. And that's not because I'm breaking the law. It's because GB News is so terrified now and so captured. I speak to a lot of people at GB News. Of course I do. Their presenters are told, you're not allowed to post anything on X that's controversial. You have to stay away from controversial issues. And we saw evidence of what happens during controversial interviews. So the channel, to its credit, actually earlier this week decided to host the politician Andrew Bridgen on

the show. Now we know Andrew Bridgen, he's a controversial guy, but he has been absolutely right in terms of challenging the COVID vaccines. And he was on to talk about the jailing of Tommy Robinson. But quite naturally, other issues are related to the Tommy Robinson case. And there is an intersection, isn't there? Because the whole point about Tommy Robinson's jailing is how can Tommy Robinson be in jail when Hugh Edwards is free on the streets. But what you'll see here is absolute terror. Absolute terror when those issues are raised. And I know what happened because it happened to me is you've got a producer in your ear saying, stop talking about that. Stop talking about that. And you see Andrew Pearce, who's totally captured part of the mainstream media, panic.

Now, what's extraordinary is he then goes on to repeat shocking misinformation, trying to suggest that Hugh Edwards accessing child pornography, or child sex abuse is actually how it should be described, I'm sorry, child sex abuse images, that that wasn't illegal. Now, I'll set this up. So at this point of the interview, they talking about the tommy robinson film silenced and miriam kate's is asked she's the co-presenter with andrew pierce villian and for bev turner and she was asked whether she'd watch the film see what happens here video no i haven't watched a video andrew no well i really suggest

you you watch it see the quality of the journalism, the quality of the undercover investigation. Interviewing the headmaster of the school in question, who says that they've been paid money to keep quiet. They've all signed NDAs and taken £10,000 to stay quiet. Nothing

reported in the mainstream media. And yes, and you know from the House of Commons, there's many things that the House of Commons don't want to talk talk about they don't want to talk about peter lynch and the death of a 61 year old grandfather they don't want to talk about tommy robinson they don't want to talk about excess deaths they don't want to talk about the vaccine arms they don't want to talk now about the european defense and security issue yeah but let's go back to the point here he pleaded guilty in court yesterday to contempt of court. He did release the film, yes, he breached that.

So he broke the law, he pleaded guilty, he's been sent to prison. Isn't that the right thing? We should all be under the law, but should the law also be applied equally? What about Hugh Edwards? All right, Andrew, we're straying off the point. No, Andrew, you've had your point. In fact, you'll say that's Andrew Bridge,

the former independent MP. He excites really strong views and feelings, but at the end of the day, he pleaded guilty to contempt of court and the judge has sent him to prison for 18 months. And, of course, you know, there'll be many people watching who think that what Tommy Robinson is trying to do and the things he's trying to expose is worth something. But the things that he is standing up for,

the foundation of this country is the rule of law. And if you break the law, especially if you plead guilty, then obviously you go into prison. And look, we weren't shutting Andrew Bridgen down, but Andrew Bridgen was now going to introduce Hugh Edwards into this. Hugh Edwards did not break the law. He may have behaved inappropriately. Well, he did, he just didn't um

and he was and it was appalling but i still it's a different it's a different crime this was involved and and contempt to court just for judges is a very very serious issue. It always has been. What the hell? So that's what's happened to GB News, sadly. I mean, it genuinely makes me sad. I was such a believer in the project. But that's what happens when you terrify your presenters into thinking that if you say something outside of acceptable thought, outside of mainstream media group think,

you're going to be sacked because that's what happened to Mark Stein, that's what happened to me, that's what happened to Calvin Robinson, that's what happened to Lawrence Fox. Obviously, there are some technicalities about our departures, but officially we left the station. But in reality, we couldn't stay, given what had happened. And then you see them pumping out misinformation, like saying Hugh Edwards is innocent,

just to try and stop talking about Tommy Robinson. So, Dr. Daniel Pitt, look, I know I have a vested interest in this one, but a £100,000 fine for GB News, because they interviewed the Prime Minister when you have Yvette Cooper being interviewed on Good Morning Britain by her own husband. This is a complete

set-up, isn't it? Well, the moral of the story is that don't get a Prime Minister interviewed by the people. Just get the Prime Minister's spouse to do it. Then you're fine. But it just seems absurd to me. It's interesting to think that the segment on Good Morning Britain

had 8,000 complaints, and the prime minister, Rishi Sunak at the time, the People's Forum had 500. So people were more upset and willing to complain about the Ed Balls, Yvette Cooper, husband-wife interview than the Prime Minister being interviewed by members of the public that were selected by an independent group which you would have thought that that's reasonable one thing that tickled me when i read

the statement was that uh for ofcom the lawyers said that uh trying to get kia starmer on the Keir Starmer to do the same programme, because they did ask him, was a speculative hope. Therefore, well, shouldn't Starmer go on to programmes like this and be questioned by members of the public? Isn't our whole point of our parliamentary democracy... And also, it's his choice. It's his choice. If he chooses to do it, then fine. As long as he's given the option it should be fine i mean look i have very strong views on this i don't think the off communist should exist at all of com should be abolished we should have a first amendment in this country it's utterly ridiculous to police broadcasting in this way when we have a free internet although of

course the thing they want to do next is patrol the internet, which is truly terrifying. But look, Dr. Daniel Pitt, do stand by. We'll be back with you in just one minute. And I have a major update on the safety of Tommy Robinson in prison. Ezra Levent believes that there's a chance he could be killed by jihadist gangs. Some news on that in just one minute, so don't go anywhere. But first, us men want our grooming routine to be a one and done deal. Well, the days of using the same trimmer for your face and your nether regions are over, thanks to our friends at Manscaped. I've come up with the ultimate package to keep your hairs trimmed 12 to 6.

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involved in this case. They are funding Tommy Robinson's legal fees. So listen to this very disturbing update from Ezra. Tommy has been in Belmarsh prison before, but the previous prison governor put Tommy in a special unit called the contingency suites where no other prisoners had access to him. It was the same prison within a prison where Julian Assange was held. Now, it's psychologically damaging to be in solitary confinement like that for so long, but at least Tommy was allowed visitors, and he knew he wouldn't be attacked. But this new prison warden, she's a diversity hire named Jenny Lewis. She gave Tommy two choices when he arrived, be thrown into the general

population of the prison where he would be killed by jihadist gangs, or to be locked up in a tiny cell down the block, as they say, for 23 and a half hours a day. But being put down the block is a punishment, usually reserved for violent prisoners who engage in misconduct while in prison. It's not a permanent holding cell meant for long-term use. According to a recent government inspection of Belmarsh, the average length of time a prisoner has been punished down the block is 18 days. Tommy was sentenced to 18 months. No one could survive that, but that's what this woke prison governor was threatening to do.

Absolutely horrifying. could survive that but that's what this woke prison governor was threatening to do absolutely horrifying but good news the pressure appears to have worked a brand new update from team tommy robinson that says tommy has just been in touch again and he'd like to thank each and every one of his supporters because following the news he wouldn't be protected in Balmarsh Maxapan Security Prison and any visits would be closed. A huge number of people contacted the prison and prison authorities to demand to know why he was being treated like this and in the wake of this pressure governors have been to see him today to tell him he will be protected in the contingency suite that he was kept in last time and he'll be allocated eight visits a month. Now, the thing is, there was genuine reason for Tommy Robinson to be fearful for his life. What we know is that when the Southport rioters were locked up,

there was a particular campaign to target them by Muslim gangs. This was reported by Martin Brunt, the crime editor of Sly News. And the commentator and journalist Lucy Brown has revealed a recording which suggests that some of those so called rioters are receiving the most appalling treatment and we have to remember we still don't know the circumstances of the death in custody of Peter Lynchy robinson is an altogether more famous more high profile and let's be honest more controversial figure he has a target on his head in prison but but listen to what lucy brown reveals had been going on both got put away for the riots both been put in the same prison both been put in the same cell um in the last 48 hours, the wing that they put them on was 90% Muslim. Both of them, one's been attacked in the shower.

They took the shower heads off, battered him. When he managed to get back to his cell, his other mate had been completely battered as well. The family's obviously distraught and everything. They're making targets of them as well as like examples of them they're making targets of the lads and they did some damage to them as well and so imagine what sort of target they would choose to make of tommy robinson now there are some good people who were standing up for his right to safety our friend father phil harris had posted his letter to the governor which said i hope the rumors are unsubstantiated if they are not given

the prisoner's profile this would seem to be putting him in harm's way i would ask you to consider thoroughly the options especially considering numerous people's general concern. And Paul Thorpe had posted on X that the whole world is watching, the entire country is aware, Tommy Robinson is now in your care and his safety is your responsibility. You are fully aware of the unique dangers that he faces. If anything happens to Tommy, there can be no excuses. So let me bring in Dr. Daniel Pitt now. So, Daniel, it feels like this is positive news although it seems quite extraordinary to me that tommy robinson has ended up in belmarsh or

this civil offense anyway uh the same prison as axel rudy cab? I think that this all shows that actually generally in our prisons that it's a Hobbesian war of all against all and it's so close to violence constantly there is just so close to violence or the threat of violence and prison is meant to give you powerlessness that's what it's meant to do take away your your liberties but what happens is when you've taken away all the people's power it congregates into the powerful who those who can intimidate and those who can uh get the gang together to suppress the others and that's what you're seeing, the threat of violence. You have to put certain groups of people away from others because they just have the power to

intimidate, inflict violence. And the authority is not with the prison officers who do an astonishing job, a really tough job, but the authority is not with them. It's with the people who can inflict violence on others and they have the power. So it's just, this is what's happened across our prisons across the board and it's something that should be a priority. And then we've got people being let out of prison early, being picked up in rather expensive vehicles and then you have got um people who you would say should be given suspended sentences who are not given suspended sentences and vice versa which is it's just our our justice system needs to go back to impartiality, equality and fairness. Look at the people on that screen.

Look at the people on that screen. I view them as political prisoners, Dr. Pitt. I mean, look, Julie Sweeney and Lucy Connolly in prison. Well, one for a Facebook post, one for an ex-post. Tommy Robinson in prison for screening a film, a journalistic pursuit, which should be protected, surely, under free speech grounds. And yes, if someone wants to sue him, we have the toughest defamation laws in this country. I know about them personally. So surely that's the way to deal with it i cannot see how he should be imprisoned for a piece of journalism no matter how

controversial it should you know no judge should be able to stop tommy robinson's investigation being screened but that's exactly what happened this this is a a good um a good analysis by you dan and i think that we need to look at that the role of free free speech needs to be looked at we need to look at the state of our prisons we need to look about the the idea of that people if people don't believe justice is being done and therefore is creating this impact across the board and this idea and it's there to take care people are saying it people believe it and this is fundamentally worrying for someone like me who believes in constitutional and legal order and think that's that's the way forward and how it has been in the past and should be going forward. So this is terribly concerning for me.

Yeah, it's terribly concerning for me as well. And the thing that feels so completely hypocritical, of course, is that when it came to the so-called rioters, there was this push for justice on acid, justice on speed. We're going to lock them up fast. We're going to lock them up fast we're gonna lock them up long yet labor's policy position is all going to be about rehabilitation releasing people early not putting non-violent criminals in jail so their treatment of the southport case and this comes back

to what we were talking about right at the start of the show, I believe it's part of this cover-up. Because what they needed, Dr. Pitt, and this doesn't make me a conspiracy theorist, I believe this is true, what they needed is they needed people in prison. The moment that we knew the truth about axel rudy cubana they needed to make sure that we were all too scared that we were all too scared to post on x that we were all too scared to protest because look at what happened to peter lynch two months sorry two years and eight months in prison he ended up dead i think the when they put that post out on x and it said uh a thousand criminals arrested the idea that you if you are arrested you are automatically a criminal that is actually

completely invert our whole justice system you are are innocent, innocent until proven guilty. Of course, they didn't give a damn about prejudicing trials then. They didn't give a damn about contempt of court then. So this is what I mean. It's completely two rules. But look, what a fascinating discussion we have had today. The academic and writer, Dr. Daniel Pitt, such a pleasure to have you for the

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