Dan Wootton Outspoken - STARMER BID TO BAN UNITE THE KINGDOM AS TOMMY ROBINSON HITS OUTS OVER ST GEORGE'S DAY DISGRACE

Episode Date: April 23, 2026

BREAKING TODAY: Finished Prime Minister Slippery Starmer’s St George’s Day plot to BAN Tommy Robinson’s Unite the Kingdom rally is exposed as our corrupted Prime Minister REFUSES to even use the word England in his annual address. But as the deep state attempts to use right-wing violence to stop UTK, Tommy has revealed he is inviting FOUR political leaders to speak, as he calls on a potential future merger between Rupert Lowe’s Restore Britain, Nigel Farage’s Reform UK and Ben Habib’s Advance UK. Meanwhile, our cretinous government under Starmer is not going to last, as Cabinet ministers turn and the path to his departure from Downing Street becomes clear, just one day after Outspoken revealed his wife and children have already moved out in his secret marriage crisis. After Dan’s Digest, the Superstar Panel are here: Independent political commentator Lee Harris, who can be found on X and Substack, and Emma Dunwell, Host of the Speak Freely Podcast which you can find on YouTube under E Speaks Freely. PLUS: The Reform UK civil war explodes in public again, with Zia Yusuf at the forefront as usual. AND: Russell Brand admits a relationship with a 16-year-old teenager in an extraordinary interview with Megyn Kelly ahead of his UK trial. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Prince Harry flees Meghan Markle and his two children after a matter of days to return to Ukraine where he has, once again, shamed the British Royal Family with a hyper political speech designed to overshadow Prince Louis’s eighth birthday celebrations. We’ll team up with Paula Froelich Uncensored for all the latest royal news. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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St. George's Day from your patriotic team here are outspoken where we raise the colors to try and save England every day of the week. Breaking today. Finished Prime Minister, Cypri St. pre-Starm as St. George's Day plot to ban Tommy Robinson's Unite the Kingdom rally exposed as our corrupted Prime Minister refuses to even use the word England in his annual address. We reject their division completely and we will fly our flag proudly. It's our flag. It belongs to us and we will fly it for the values that we believe. Some people call him for more than a peaceful protest. what do you think that will achieve? If you come and roy it, if people come and roy it,

what's that going to achieve? You're all getting locked up. So as Tuteiakir's deep state attempts to use right-wing violence to stop U-TK are revealed, Tommy has just said he has invited four political leaders to speak and he's calling on a potential future merger between Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain, Nigel Farage's reformed UK, and Ben Habib's Advanced UK.

I'm going to make the appeal to all of them, from Cambod Van der Lech to Nigel Farge, to Rupert Lowe, to Ben-Abeeb. Come and speak, guys. Come and speak. The public are there for the country, yeah? You're all fighting the same fight. Now, I hope, who knows where we're at in three years? Hopefully, Ben-A-Beb, Rupert Lowe, Nigel Farge,

are all sitting around one table to work what's best for us. Great Britain. Meanwhile, our Kretanist government this St George's Day continues to put the native English population at serious risk. A leafy Surrey village is at war with the home office after migrants were moved into a 500,000 pound cottage, just weeks before one was arrested for allegedly harassing schoolgirls. Not that Stama is going to last much longer as cabinet ministers turn and the path to his departure from Downing Street becomes clear just one day after I revealed his wife and children have already moved out of Downing Street as part of his secret marriage crisis.

It's got to the point now where I genuinely think that, you know, as far as the Prime Minister is concerned, it's not a case of if, it's when. When do you think Kirstarmer will resign? Right, short and sweet. Sometime within the next eight weeks. So we will hear... From Slippery Stama today. And then my superstar panel, independent political commentator,

Lee Harris, who can be found on X and Substack, and Emma Dunwell, host of the Speak freely podcast, which you can find on YouTube under E Speaks freely. Also coming up on the show today, the Reform UK Civil War explodes in public again with see Yusuf at the forefront, as usual. And Russell Brand admits a relationship with a 16-year-old team, teenager in an extraordinary interview with Megan Kelly, ahead of his UK trial. We will analyze.

Then, in the Royal Uncanceled After Show on Substack, Prince Harry flees, Megan Markle and his two children after a matter of days to return to Ukraine, where he has once again shamed the British royal family with a hyper-political speech designed to overshadow Prince Louis' eighth birthday celebrations today. So we're going to team up with Paula Frolic uncensored for all the latest royal news. That's after the main show. You can come and join us at www. outspoken. com. Because we have a very special show tomorrow and I'll be previewing it at the end of the show. It's the first ever election debate between the Green Party, Restore Britain and Reform UK.

We will be revealing our worst Britain in the week at the end of today's show. You can still vote in the posts tab on YouTube. This is when we put your union. Jackass is head to head from across the week. On Monday, it was Rachel Reeves, Tuesday, Kirstama, Wednesday, Zach Polanski. Already over 50,000 of you have voted, which is just incredible. So do get your votes coming in. I will reveal the winner and your best comments at the end of today's show. But now, let's go. It takes some unbelievable front as a leader and actually, has a human being too. To hate your country and to hate its people so much,

that you oversee an invasion that puts our safety under threat every day, and an Islamist takeover, which undermines our Christian heritage forever, and then choose to deride the patriots who are fighting back. But that's what Slippery Stama, who is on his way out of Downing Street with his wife and children already having moved out after this marriage crisis at the MSM are covering up. That is exactly what Kirstama did today. as he posted St George's flag stands for unity over hatred and decency over division.

Those are the values I will always fight for. Some try to hijack our flag to spread hate. I reject their plastic patriotism. Funny that, given he used his St. George's Day address to spread hate against us. is both here and abroad who would seek to divide us, who want to set us apart from each other, who want to pretend that in this country what we really do is to distinguish between people, to find the points of difference, to have the sort of toxic culture of hatred between different individuals, different groups, different communities.

We will not let them do this. We reject their division completely. And we will fly our flag proudly. It's our flag. It belongs to us. and we will fly it for the values that we believe it. Oh, well, guess what? That Cretton, who claims to be so proud of the English flag,

did not mention England or the English once in his formal published address for St. George's Day. So I repeat, he hates us. He hates us because he is allowing our streets to become plagued with illegals who want to rape our daughters and wives. A leafy Surrey village, at war with the Home Office after migrants were moved into a 500,000 pound cottage, just weeks before one was arrested for allegedly harassing schoolgirls.

Asylum seekers were placed in a taxpayer-funded house in multiple occupation, just 200 yards from a primary school in Leylam. The move is part of the government's drive to close down migrant hotels, but it has sparked a spat between the Home Office and the local council. Spellform Borough Council claims it was not told about the introduction of asylum housing, housing in the 2,500 person Riverside Hamlet, which is featured in the Doomsday Book. Only weeks after the migrants were moved in, we can reveal how one resident was handcuffed at the gates of the HMO after acting suspiciously outside a local primary school.

The Afghan National was arrested on suspicion of harassment last Thursday afternoon. He was later held under the Mental Health Act when concerned parents raised the alarm. The man, in his 20s, has since been moved out of the area and is at a secure facility awaiting assessment, but the introduction of migrants to a half a million pound cottage has triggered serious concerns among local parents following the incident. And it's in this context, the Slippery Summers Deep State are now plotting to shut down and ban Tommy Robinson's Unite the Kingdom Rally next month, using a potential breakaway group suggesting a three-day more forceful approach to pressure the organisers. Now, a lot of these negotiations were

sparked with police after this viral video of X-rays, the colours organiser and Tommy's close friend Danny Tomo went viral. I also need to make one thing extremely clear because I think some are still in very much in doubt about what is going to be happening on the 16th of May. I do not speak for everyone, but I speak for myself and many that follow me. We are not coming to London to weigh flags. We are not coming to London to walk down roads. We are coming to London for three days to defend our country, our children, our families, our herities and the future of this country.

We don't care about the modus. We don't care about the left. We don't care about the infighting. Who thinks they're right and who thinks they're wrong. We know what needs to be done. And they have pushed us to this. So make no mistake. and the 16th of May, things change. That's the fun of it. Except it. You evolved in it. The question you do, the quicker this ends.

Okay, so there'd been a little bit of back and forth between myself and Danny Tomo after I played that video on the show. He accused me of trying to create a bit of drama. I absolutely wasn't doing that. I was reporting the fact, which is that there is this push for a breakaway movement. and Tommy is opposed to it. By the way, I had also invited Danny on the show because I really respected the work that he had done in Epsom where the police are quite clearly covering up details of this alleged migrant gang rape.

Well, last night, Tommy actually sat down with Danny for a live YouTube broadcast where they both had it out, obviously their friends, and it was very respectable in terms of why UTK must remain a one-day family the event and it's because slippery starma and the failed london islamas mesdique khan are now looking for any opportunity to pounce there were calls for a three-day demonstration that were put out there there were some more maybe i'd describe as aggressive messaging that was going out from different people at different times um i want people to understand that in our negotiations with the

police for this event the council have stonwalled us the whole time time. Okay. Now, fortunately, when it's your videos, Danny, I'll be honest, the police gave us the police in our negotiations with the police, they were worried, yeah. But that actually worked and gave us a position of negotiations with the police, where what I've been trying to say to the police is, listen officers, and these are negotiations that we just wouldn't have had, yeah? Because the council has been stonewalling us, blanking us, not giving us permission to set up or giving us permits to set up speakers, stages, anything. Yeah. Now, in our negotiations with the police, what I've been stressing to them is ignore any messaging from people because we hope to sit down with those people and get everyone singing off the same hymn sheet, which we will hopefully convince people to do if you, the police, overrule the council. And Tommy made it clear that any type of violence will result in long-term jail sentences or patriots, because effectively deep state, want an opportunity to win.

Some people call him for more than a peaceful protest. What do you think that will achieve? If you come and riot, if people come and riot, what's that going to achieve? You're all getting locked up. They're going to, you're all getting locked up. That's not what I was calling for, just that.

I know you. No, no, you weren't, Danny. I know you weren't. The reason I'm saying this is there's a, there's a sway of people who don't like us, yeah, who don't want us to succeed, who are attacking. us for having peaceful protest, having music, having all these things, yeah? And I understand people's

frustration. I get the frustration. I get the anger. What I'd say is two years ago when we sat down and spoke about a cultural movement, to be where we're at now, we're about to put millions on the streets again, yeah. We've shifted a lot. Mood has shifted a lot. And it's part of a spiritual awakening. It is. And look, I have huge respect for Tommy in terms of what he did there. I also have a lot of respect for what Danny Tomo does too. But I think Tommy was making it absolutely clear. Look, there are reasons we can't do this three day event. There are reasons why we need to be focused on a family event because the deep state are out to get us. And that is, of course, because there is such a political angle to unite the kingdom this year. And it is all about seeing a mass demand for a

general election. The election is a week before. Kirstama's under pressure now. I think Labour are going to get trounced. We're going to be tender people, demand the election, descend on our capital, but have a great day. Have a great day because although people may not see that it's bought about change, it has, and it is.

The momentum and the political parties are riding the waves of this nationalism and patriotism. and on May 16th it's just going to be another step forward again. And in fairness to Danny Tomo, he was then very clear that he is not advocating for violence either. So I need to be careful because the last thing that needs to happen is any good men or women being sent to prison because of any directions that myself or Tommy have given. Absolutely, absolutely.

Now Tommy, of course, is currently in the United States of a men. America, but he revealed that he is returning next week to ensure that the deep state are unable to cancel United Kingdom. By the way, I don't know if you've seen this, but there is even a false flag post from Tommy going around announcing that he has had to cancel UTK. It is a fake, but it shows you the length that the deep state are going to to try and undermine this event. And I think they will also try and cause violence at the event too. That's why patriots have to be on guard watch. the British government think when they look at you over there.

Mate, I know what the... Again, do you know what the British... They'd be worried by me being here, but they'd have been worried by May, September 13th. When they saw those numbers, they will be worrying now. And do you know what they want? More than anything? Which is why I said, more than anything,

they want to cause division, divide numbers, get people not to come. So anyone making those comments now, it's like, look, you don't have to support me here. You don't have to agree with everything nice. there's momentum with this the whole country is about to make a stand against the corrupt government who are betraying us on immigration on culture on identity on funding on everything they're betraying the farmers they're betraying the school children they're betraying the pensioners

they've betrayed all of us they've betrayed all of us we are at a pivotal moment in our country's future where what our country looks like it will never look the same again because they destroying it. So this is a moment to send a message to the entire world that Britain is awake. And the thing is, the U-TK movement is bigger than any political party. And that's why it is very significant that Tommy has announced he is inviting the leaders of the Conservative Party, Reform UK, Restore Britain and Advance UK to speak. We're not alone, we're mainstream. We're We, there is no political party that puts those numbers on the streets. There is no movement that has ever done that before.

This is the movement for the people, which is why I'm going to make the, I'm going to make the appeal to all of them, from Camby van der Lech to Nigel Fragge, to Rupert Lowe, to Ben Abede. Come and speak, guys. Yeah, come and speak. The public are there for the country, yeah? You're all fighting the same fight. Now, I hope, who knows where we're at in three years? Hopefully, Ben Abed, Rupert Lowe, Nigel Farge, are all sitting around one table to work what's best for Great Britain.

And what's interesting is that Tommy is convinced that Rupert Lowe and his Restore Britain Political Party is already making a major difference to the political position of Reform UK and Nigel Farage, who have been forced to move away from their weak source approach. Without Rupert Lowe's party polling at 9% now, Nigel Frage wouldn't be going harder on all the policies he's going harder on. He just wouldn't because he went soft as shit.

He went really soft. He's now having to try and pull back, yeah? So all of these things, Ben Abib, an advance and any of these parties, I would just be telling people I joined advance so that there was pressure to put on Nigel Frudge. I would tell people to get politically active. And I mean, it is without doubt true because you now have Zia Yusuf the so-called shadow home secretary for Reform UK, suggesting that actually they will deport 600,000

people or actually potentially even launch a UK version of ICE to try and deport 2 million people. Now remember, before Restore Britain, Nigel Farage was saying that was a political impossibility. Sadly, though, Reform UK is continuing its MSM-driven narrative. trying to distance itself as far as possible from Tommy Robinson. Just look at Reform UK's Scottish leader Malcolm Offord here. That same candidate also tweeted in support of Tommy Robinson. Do you think candidates should be supportive of him? No, we've been very clear about Tommy Robinson.

In fact, Nigel Farage has been very clear that there's no common ground between Tommy Robinson and reform. Now that is absolutely bizarre to me. Think of what Malcolm Offutt is saying there. No common ground. No common ground between Reform UK and Tommy Robinson. Okay, so Reform UK doesn't want to end Pakistani Muslim rape gangs? Seriously, think about your language, Malcolm offered. At some point, you've got to be brave and you can't allow the MSM to dishonestly define what Tommy Robinson's UTK movement is about. And I'd argue that Reform UK are doing lots of good stuff. I mean, today, St George's Day,

they announced a new patriotic curriculum policy, for example, where every school will have a portrait of the king, a union jack, and a patriotic curriculum that teaches them about empire. Announcing the plans ahead of St. George's Day, Farage's party said every school in England would be required to honour the patron saint's day if it took power. The party said it wanted to end the ideological capture of our classrooms by introducing a new history curriculum to honour our island's story with pride. Reforms Education spokesman, Suella Braverman, accused previous governments of promoting their mass migration agenda in schools. The party said children were taught to be ashamed of Britain's past and were not taught about its men and women who fought for freedom.

It highlighted a survey by policy exchange that found only 20% of 18 to 24-year-olds have a positive vision of Winston Churchill. And that's great, okay? That's great. But then I look at what Reform UK actually do. So Malcolm Offord, there's no common ground with Tommy Robinson. And just today, I would argue Nigel Farage has given in to the weak source approach once more by distancing himself publicly from US President Donald Trump and actually finally admitting what I first reported many months ago, their own special relationship, is over. I can't think of a better person to send. Right at this moment in time than the King.

And he'll give the speech in Congress, but of course there'll be private conversations. And I think, you know, the King will understand fully that this isn't just about Donald Trump, nor was it before about Joe Biden. It is about the really important relationship between us and America. And I do think Stalin has done it some damage.

I think initially saying you can't use the bases, then you turning 48 hours later. I think that's done some damage to the relationship. So the king, him going is good. Trump has this extraordinary respect for the royal family, for the institution, and I'm sure he'll do much good. You're not worried like some people are

that he might embarrass the king? No. He just won't do them. And who invited you? Oh, and several members of Congress. You know, because you can sit in the gallery. And I'd love to be there, because it really is a biggest,

Is Donald Trump in touch ahead of it, Oscar? No, I haven't really been in touch with Trump for many months. And what about the real threat? What about the real threat that we all need to be uniting about and talking about, especially on this St. George's Day? Tommy knows exactly what it is. Because he says this weird trans-Islamo alliance with Zach Polanski, the tit-whisperer,

and Mothan Ali, the Islamist Green Party. that's not going to last. And what's coming soon is full-on Islamist parties. Now, there's a little civil war going on from the Labour and the Green Party, Labour thought they could rely on these lot, and they're leaving them. And eventually they'll leave all these left-wing groups because they'll be for Islam and Islam only and Sharia only. But we're in a race, we're in a race against time.

This election in three years' time, I personally think it's not the end of the world to have three years because we need a public, who are radicalized to the point where they're going to accept the real change that's needed. Indeed. Indeed. And that real change is going to be hard

but is utterly essential. Now, the Superstar Panel. Ever done well and Lee Harris back with me. Lee, what is abundantly obvious to me is that slippery Starma and Siddi Khan are looking for any excuse

to ban Unite the kingdom, firstly, and if they can't ban it to make sure that there is some form of violence on the day in order to deride it. So Tommy Robinson, I think, is taking a sensible approach here, do you? Absolutely. I didn't disagree with a single word that Tommy said. He's got it. And to be able to pull off what he pulled off last time shows that he's got his head screwed on properly. I mean, I was there, Dan, you were there. We spoke to, I mean, I spoke to a lot of people. And that was the culture of the entire day. Everybody I spoke to, no violence, we're here to have fun,

lots of happy, you know, smiley faces, families, children, people from all ethnicities, all backgrounds. And what I was really disappointed in is there was a mistake where the police had led down, I don't know if you remember, behind the stage, there was that road where they led down, led down some lads down the wrong road and they they led them into a wall of police and it kicked off for about what 15 minutes and it didn't even kick off a lot there was about i don't know maybe 20 or 30 people where they were pushing each other that was it and the media were all over it they made

out that there was loads of violence and it and it was all far right they will jump on this as as quickly as possible they will make the biggest deal out even if there's one punch up they will make sure that is headline news. So Tommy is absolutely right. The feeling of the event last year was fantastic. It was a, I wanted to bring my daughter. That's how I felt about the event. I kind of wish I had.

It was that type of event. It was for everybody. And if it gets ruined by people who, and honestly, I'm saying this, but I don't think it will happen. I really don't. Not from the vibes I was getting from the last one. But, you know, that's what they want.

They want people to kick off and get violent. It wouldn't surprise being the slightest if we have groups of people that are trying to kick off. I think that almost tried to happen. Antifa infiltration. Government infiltration. And that's why the Patriots have to be very aware of what the government is trying to do.

Now, Emma Dunwall, you spend a huge amount of time reporting on the streets, on the ground, around the activists. Do you get that sense of frustration from the likes of Danny Tomo that they want this almost harder approach to UTK? I really do. I'm in completely two minds

when I initially saw the video because I do see both sides. I've had people, I've had grown men shoving signs in my faces, screaming obscenities at me. And it does. It completely enrages you. And when it gets to the point,

where we've got the establishment going after us as well and we just seem to keep getting tired with the same brush over and over again and everyone else just seems to be able to get away with whatever they want, it does become exhausting and it does get to the point where you are kind of waiting for someone somewhere to snap and then everyone's just going to go because it is our, it is our docile nature as British people that we kind of, you know, we keep calm and carry on.

That is one of the things it is to be. British. But I do think that it's so important to keep ourselves poised and keep ourselves driven and directed. So I do think that Tommy was completely right. We need a very specific approach here. It needs to be like last year. We need to have like no problems. I think there was a few things that happened last year. But from what I can remember, it was on the very outskirts of the protest, where other protesters were able to then kind of go to people. Because you had those stand up to racism, hard lifters and the police had had brought. brought them too close together.

But honestly, compared to any other major event, the arrest number was tiny. Compared to the number of people that were in attendance, let's think about the numbers that were there. I mean, look at the Notting Hill Carnival where there are stabbings and deaths and murders and literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of arrests. But this is the problem. Tommy Robinson does not fight on an equal basis at all. Lee, what do you make of his invitation to all of the right-wing party leaders?

For example, last year, only Ben Habib of Advance UK spoke. Would it be a good idea for Kemi Badenock, Rupert Lowe and Nigel Farage to take to that stage? I mean, I say absolutely, we know that Farage won't do it. We know that Badenot won't do it. But isn't this a great opportunity for the Restore Britain leader? Yeah, I don't think they'll do it. I mean, Rupert didn't come to the last one either. Maybe he will come to this one.

And what I think of Tommy doing it, I think is fantastic. I think Tommy's doing exactly the right thing. And I like the stance he's taking this kind of apolitical stance, where he really wants to emphasize that this is for everybody. And his words were, you know, these aren't people that are following me. These are people that are, you know, voting for you, as in talking directly to these political leaders. I don't think they'll come.

Maybe that is the right decision or the wrong decision. I'm not sure. I just really hope that they do because I think it would really unite the kingdom. I think that would send a very strong message. Emma, I know that there are some discussions behind the scenes at Restore Britain. That seems the most likely one for me. I mean, I imagine Ben Habib will speak again because he absolutely brought the house down last year. There's obviously no chance Frudge is going to be there.

No chance Baylonok is going to be there. I think Rupert Lowe could be. I think it's a possibility that Rupert could go, but then also, like Lee said, it's a bit of a coin toss. I do think that, again, just to kind of echo what Lee said, kind of like Tommy, I'm feeling very much politically homeless in terms of an exact specific party at the moment myself.

So I think this is something that if it's just, it appeals to everyone, which is fantastic. And it's what people want to see more of. How many times have people said, even just hypothetically, oh, wouldn't it be great if everyone on the right wing parties that has a bit of sense actually got together and made just one great party? And I think that it's invitations like this,

whether they are taken or not, that are going to start having that conversation because it is on such a big stage now. Like Tommy said in the video, this is not a small movement. They are mainstream now, and they've done that brilliantly well. So I don't know. I think there's even might be a small possibility

that Baydenot could say, surprise everyone and turn up. I mean, she's really been hard hitting lately. It would be the best thing she has ever done. Seriously. By the way, whatever happens, whatever happens, you will be able to watch it all here on outspoken during our special coverage of May the 16th. Slippery Starman's finished.

We know it. It's not just his wife turning on him. Of course, I exclusively revealed yesterday that a miserable Lady Victoria Stama has moved her and the kids out of Downing Street and the latest marriage crisis between the pair. But now the cabinet ministers are turning, the MPs are turning significantly the mainstream media is turning, and the deep state is turning. Stama, who once promised on the record to quote, restore service and respect to politics and end the era of noisy performance tread more lightly on your lives and unite our country is going to be done. And if you look at today's newspaper front pages,

the Guardian, the Times, the morning start from all across the spectrum, admitting that he's finished. But what's interesting is that he is being given a staged exit by the party, which would allow him to hand over at the party conference later this year. Here Starman will resign. Right, short and sweet. Sometime within the next eight weeks. I mean, what I was being told this after.

this evening is there is going to be an attempt to sort of give him an honourable route out, staged exit. I would be, I would expect he will say he will pre-announce as we've seen before. He'll pre-announce his departure and he will announce that he'll hand over at the party conference. The mood has gone from we kind of we quite like to get rid of him to but we haven't got a candidate to, look, this can't go on, we have to get rid of him, we're just going to have to find a candidate. Bring back Harriet Harmon. I mean, some of the names, people like Hillary Ben, people like Yvette Cooper, John Healy's been mentioned, but then there's the other thing of how it's described to me as, and then they'll sit in for a place for a while, and then there'll be

some sort of what was called a celebrity death match, which Andy Burnham, will be given time to find a seat. Angela Rain may be able to throw a hat in the ring. Wes may be able to sort of extradicate himself from his own proximity to Peter Mandelson. Maybe Ed Milibandall, when I have a go at it as well. Everyone I'm speaking to says something's changed in the last 48. And so Stama, this St. George's Day, went out to face questioning from his pals on sly news about whether he has considered resigning.

At any point in the last seven days have you considered your position and thought about resigning? I think it's very important to see what's going on here. Last week, my political opponents were saying that there's no way a civil servant wouldn't have told me about the outcome of developed betting, the security exercise. Turns out my political opponents were completely wrong about that. Then they said that I was dishonest. It turns out they were completely wrong. about that. They are now putting any allegation that they can, and I'll tell you for why, they're opposed politically to what this government is trying to achieve. We've introduced the

Employment Rights Act to give people more rights at work. The Renters Rights Act, giving those in rented accommodation more rights, is coming in very shortly. We've invested a huge man in the NHS, but my political opponents don't like that, and so you have these allegations that keep on coming. Okay, but did you notice that? He didn't say that he had not considered resigning. He is considering resigning. I revealed that two days ago because he knows the game is up. So that was really interesting to me.

Of course, he also wouldn't admit the fact that he threw a top blob leader under the bus to protect himself. Do you accept, though, that Ollie Robbins was just following procedure, trying to implement your wishes, and that it was a mistake to sack him. Look, I strongly think that the outcome of the security clearance exercise, the developed vetting exercise, was important and should have been brought to my attention, and could have been brought to my attention, and had it been brought to my attention, before Peter Mandelson took up his post,

then I wouldn't have appointed them. I think it was a serious error of judgment. It's very important to make clear to, everybody that Sorali Robbins does not suggest he did tell me that information. He makes it clear he took a decision not to give me that information. I think that was the wrong decision. But all of the allegations that have been that he wouldn't have told me, he must have told me, I couldn't be telling the truth about this. All allegations by my political opponents, all of which are being found to be a case that just can't be substantiated. It's totally desperate. He's hiding behind process.

But a critical moment was that he refused to say if his own cabinet is behind him. Watch. Are you confident the cabinet is fully behind you? The cabinet is working really hard on huge amount of issues on what we're delivering at the moment. We're preparing for the King's speech and all the further measures that we're going to need to take the country forward. And of course, the issue we discuss at Cabinet a lot. in recent weeks, is the war on two fronts, the ongoing war in Ukraine and the developing situation in Iran. What we discuss at Cabinet is the international aspect of that, but also

the domestic impact in relation to that and the measures that we need to take to ensure that we're assessing the risks and making sure we're protecting people in this country. He's just creditorious. It makes me so angry. Doesn't answer the question. But I mean, look, he's done. He is finished. Look at this. Cover of the spectator. today, Keir Kama, with its political editor, Tim Shipman, reporting on a text message that Slippery Stama sent Peter Mandelson, best friends with the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, the night before he made the announcement he was becoming US ambassador. This is what Stammer said to him. You'll be brilliant in challenging circumstances. And after many years of our discussions,

we get to work together side by side, I really look forward to that. He's screwed. And listen to the top Westminster Insiders and what they're saying to Tim Shipman. One said, I hope this will finally kill the absurd Kirstama as a decent man narrative. He's a shit weasel whose sole political talent is blaming others for his own failings. In terms of everyone who's been sacked, another former official notes, the body count outstrips anyone since Thatcher. Boris talked a lot about firing people, but he was all mouth and no trousers. and then Shipman quotes Morgan McSweeney.

Stama's former Chief of Staff who will be giving his own evidence on Tuesday morning telling a friend, I always knew care would throw me overboard in the end. A former Labor Cabinet Minister, wonder if it's Angela Rainer or Andy Burnham probably, said the public are allergic to Stama. And the party cannot stand him. He has no friend in politics apart from the Attorney General Herma.

He trusts no one. He has not a single real supporter in the cabinet. The civil service loathes him and the military are contemptuous. The media have seen right through him. Stama is now thoroughly paranoid. He is terrified of the Rainer Burnham threat to him, but Labour MPs cannot yet gather around an alternative. But look, that is changing very quickly,

the eye newspaper reporting directly from a cabinet minister who says that they have lost patience with Sir Kerr, saying it's bleak. It's a question for the cabinet and colleagues need to come to a view. I know what my view is. And that has now led for some to call for the health secretary West Treatying and former Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rainier to form a pact to unite different wings of the party and avoid a bloody leadership context.

The idea is fraught with complexities. Several Labour MPs also talked up the prospect of Foreign Secretary Evac Cooper taking over from Stama in a temporary capacity. Oh, what a miss. What a miss. Look at this. The telegraph reporting it's over. Cabinet loyalists have now turned on Stama. And this is what I found most shocking today. Rachel Reeves.

Rachel Reeves. The one woman who probably should stay loyal to Stama because she will be out immediately. Now also turning on the PM. But it's not just the right-wing media reporting this either. today's Guardian also saying that divisions have now emerged in Keir Stahmer's Cabinet. On another difficult day for the Prime Minister, the Guardian learned of concerns around the Cabinet table.

A senior minister refused to say that the dismissal of Robbins was fair. Some senior Labour MPs say the Prime Minister is now living on borrowed time as he continues to come under fire for his decision to appoint Mandelson. There is talks in the Times newspaper that he could face a sleaze inquiry over the Mandelson scandal. That, of course, has to be demanded by the Speaker of the House. So this is absolutely dire. It is done. But what about the country?

What about the country? We are being humiliated on a national scale. Like the fact when Kirstama actually stepped outside Downing Street yesterday, only question being asked was whether he could hang on. onto his job. And a Labour MP has even appeared on GB News, the enemy channel, to Stama and called for him to step down. It's got to the point now where I genuinely think that, you know, as far as the Prime Minister is concerned, it's not a case of if, it's when, and I just think we need to get a handle on this, because people out there are worried about

their cost of living, they're worried about their NHS, they're worried about crime on their streets, and we're completely consumed by this scandal, and it's completely unexecutive. and as I'm sure you can tell, I'm quite angry about it. You're saying it's if not when the Prime Minister should resign. Yeah, I mean, ultimately we're in a situation now where I don't think anyone reasonably expects the Prime Minister to lead the party into the next election. And I think that we have to refocus this government on the priorities of the British people. To the superstar panel, Lee Harris and Emma Dunnall.

I mean, Emma, I am absolutely astonished that Rachel from accounts has now turned on slippery stum. it's over. It's over because she knows that the only way she stays Chancellor is if Stama stays Prime Minister. So by turning on him, she is now acknowledging that there is no way for him to survive. But does he really deserve this eight-week resignation strategy then handing over at the party conference later this year? I would argue he deserves to be brutally sacked for the good of the country. He deserves to be marched down Downing Street so while people can hurl tomatoes at him like they would do in the old day. And a few eggs, actually, a few rotten eggs. Yeah, I'm sorry, but ever since Labour have got into power, it's felt like for everyone that we've just been in some kind of fever dream.

I don't think that any of his colleagues actually thought that he would get in. I mean, his wife certainly didn't think that she would get in. She actually admitted that she never signed up to become a public figure. well, you wouldn't if you knew that you were going to be the Prime Minister's wife. So that tells me that she never thought he would get in. I don't think he thought he would get in himself. He was so confident from the opposition, but now, as soon as he's actually come into power, broke his manifesto straight off the bat.

This man has done nothing but destroy the country from the inside out and then smiling our faces. And actually, I don't even know if he believes he's in charge. Because let's be honest, with the whole Mandelson thing, best case scenario, he is. just completely out of control of his own government, right? That's the best case scenario. So who is running the show? I've seen multiple clips of him, even when he's saying, I'm the prime minister of the United Kingdom, this is, this is my duty, it's my job, da-da-da-da-da. And he's saying it with a smirk on his face, almost like he's trying to hold back a laugh. So I think this is, this all just boils down to the fact that we literally

have a deranged child running the show and we're all trying to get on with our day despite that. I think it's just he needs to be gone and out. He should have been out ages ago, but I do worry about who his replacement is going to be. So, you know, but he needs to be out. I don't know how he survived this long. No, of course. Well, Lee, one of the reasons, I guess, is because he was their man. You know, he was the mainstream media's man. He was the deep states man. As a result, they never gave him the scrutiny that was required. Absolutely. That is spot on. I think it should be a case of Kirstama being dragged out of number 10 in handcuffs and charged with treas.

He should be locked up. Absolutely. I mean, there is genuine treasonous behaviour from Kirstama and especially his best mate Lord Herma. We couldn't have had the worst possible prime minister at the worst possible time. As Emmer said, he has genuinely been working against the best interests of our country. And it doesn't take that long for us to even list a few of these things off. We can talk about Chegos, for example. You know, the fact that he wants to weaken us as a country.

But what's got me over the last 24 to 48 hours, actually probably a bit longer than that, is I found myself, I was writing a post on X to describe the last time that Kirstava misled the house. And as I was writing it, I was watching him in PMQ's misleading the house again. And this was very specific. I honestly could not get my head around this. The fact that he, the whole centrepiece of Ollie Robbins' testimony, the whole centrepiece was all about the pressure exerted from number 10 onto him and his team around pushing Mandelson through as quickly as possible.

That was the centrepiece. There was no ambiguity. There was no misunderstanding about that. The fact that Kyrs-Nama stood up in the house and said, explicitly that Olly Robbins said there was no pressure exerted. I mean, what sort of man does that? And what gets me as well is how is he allowed? How is Kirstama allowed to mislead the house constantly and nothing happens? What's going on? Surely if this was Boris or if this was anyone else, he'd be dragged back into Parliament, not allowed to parogue Parliament and

close it down so he doesn't have to face another PMQs. I genuinely do not understand Dan. What's happening to our institution? Why can't we uphold the rules that we have? Because if we did, Kirstama would be out already. He may well win a vote of no confidence, but exactly for the reasons you've just described. They haven't got anyone else to replace him. You know, but it can't go on. We can't see the conventions of our House of Commons, um, being abused daily by someone who just constantly lies. It doesn't make any sense. No, it doesn't.

He is abusing us. He is humiliating us as a country. And look, I do agree what comes next is going to be horrible, but sometimes that doesn't matter. Unfortunately, sometimes things have to get worse before they're better. There is darkness before dawn.

And can I just, yeah, can I just say something on this? Please. I saw Kelvin McKenzie yesterday write a post out on X saying, you know, to all those people who want to get rid of Stama, you're mad, this is why, because whoever will come next. Well, I have a theory on this. You know, people will disagree with me. That's fine. I actually want the next person to come in to be as bad as humanly possible. And this is my theory, is that look what happened to the Conservatives at the last election.

We had this constant pressure put on them by the media. and then we saw MPs started to fold and that pressure that was exerted onto the Conservatives pushed Rishi Sunak to call for an early election right so we are stuck with Labor for three years if nothing happens but if we can exert enough pressure if there's some sort of financial crisis or something that can bring this government down quicker then that's what we have to do so you know so be it if we have Ed Miliband or Rainer the absolute lunatic taking over the the worst possible person. To me, that, yes, it's going to be painful. It could be, um, I'm hoping it won't be irreversible. But the way I look at it is we might have to go through

just like you said, Dan, a little bit more pain to try and get this labor government out as quickly as possible. Because if we don't, we're just going to have to wait until 2029. That, that's, you know, I think we should set our expectations at that level. But if we can bring them down or they can bring themselves down by putting an even worse person in, I say bring it on. Yeah, because actually there has to be a focus on what this government has done to our country. I mean, look at this headline today. Three, asylum seekers. That's what LBC calls them guilty of raping women on Brighton Beach and predatory and callous attack.

Well, they're not asylum seekers, are they? They're illegals. They shouldn't be here. Labor is allowing them to flood our country every single goddamn day. And actually, part of what we have to do with start. as Lee is suggesting there, is make them unelectable forever, forever. And so it doesn't matter who comes next. If they're worse, it's going to be painful, yes.

Although can you actually get worse than slippery stammer? I don't know. I don't know. And if you can then actually make Labour unelectable for a generation. A bizarre new civil war has kicked off within Nigel Farage's Reform UK Party. And surprise, surprise! Zia Yusuf, the Muslim former chairman of the party, who was a conservative himself, he likes us all to forget that, is at the heart of this.

But I find it particularly bizarre, given that it is just a couple of weeks before this utterly critical local election result for Reform UK, and Zia Yusuf is using his ex-account to cause trouble yet again. I have no idea what this man has on Nigel Farage. I think it's something sinister, because there's no. No way he should still be there if this party is serious about taking party. Power. Remember, Zia Yusufu's fall out with Rupert Lowe is really behind the emergence of Restore Britain, which could screw Nigel Farage's chances of power once and for all.

But I want to read this post to you because Zia Yusuf just decided to go there and go public with the Civil War, which is tearing the party into. And much of this, of course, even though neither of them will admit it publicly, is to do with the utter hatred that exists between Zia Yusuf and Robert Jenric, who was Nigel Farage's star signing to come into the party as Shadow Chancellor and effectively destroy Yusuf's chance of taking that role. So, he posted, reformers, we are moving through hostile terrain. The left-wing press is spreading lies about us.

The so-called right-wing press is doing the same. because it is an arm of the Tory party. Failed Tories are trying to infiltrate us and destroy our enemy from within. Hold the line. As a start-up party, we have already made history and smashed the two-party system. We will not back down.

We will defeat the Uni Party and break the establishment that has failed and betrayed the British people. Nigel Farage will be our Prime Minister supported by a majority of turquoise-blooded reform MPs. A brighter future awaits Britain. So you see what he does there. This is called the burger approach, right?

You have the two buns with the negative, with the positive stuff on the outside and then you put the real meat on the bones in the middle. And he did that by saying, because I just want to come back to this line. Failed Tories are trying to infiltrate us and destroy our agenda from within. Well, they haven't tried to infiltrate you.

I've been invited in by Nigel Farage. So you can say that you want Nigel Farage to be Prime Minister all you want, but this is a direct attack on Farage and a direct attack on the fact that these failed Tories have come into the party. It's very obviously talking about Genuix, Sualla Bravman and Nadim Sahawi. Now, whatever I might think about those people coming into the party, and certainly Zahawi is the biggest mistake that Farage has ever made, they are infiltrating because of permission from Nigel Farage,

who remember Andrew Bridgen said on this show earlier this week is now compromised. So a lot is going on with this, but it's totally bizarre that this story has just been ignored by the mainstream media given that there is a huge fight within the party. Personally, I think Zia Yusuf is a massive issue. And I also think we have to remember that this guy was a Tory himself who bought his way into Reform UK. So I want to get to my superstar panel on this, Emma Dunwell and Lee Harris. Now, Lee, you have been pretty close to Reform UK, but what is going on here? Because for this to play out on X so publicly when Nigel Farage has always said that if people

turn Raos public, they will go. Yet Zia Yusuf can seemingly do or say whatever he wants with no consequences whatsoever. I got to admit, I found the tweet a bit odd, but I didn't take it the way that you may have taken it. I don't think he was referring to Zahari, although I do consider Zahari exactly the same as you as a mistake. I'm just glad that, well, and continue to hope he doesn't get any type of position of any authority within the party.

He just stays a member, just like anyone can be a member of reform. so can he that's fine um but i'm i didn't take it that way i thought that i assumed that he was referring to more tories that were trying to infiltrate the party and i think we did get um a little bit of a press release to say that i think there'd been two or three tories that had been rejected uh very recently from the party maybe that that's what he was referring to these these additional tories that were trying to get into the party and it wouldn't surprise me if they were potentially trying to infiltrate reform but i don't necessarily necessarily see what Zia Yusuf has some sort of undermining of Farage or going off on a tangent.

I think that what he's just basically trying to say is that there is a lot of pressure being exerted on reform. I think that that's pretty obvious. They are potentially going to be forming the next government. So I would expect the attacks to happen. I mean, it happened to any party. It happened to restore if restore in the same position, it would be happening to them too. Media attacks, internal attacks. I just think that that's probably what Zia was referring to. Do you buy that, Emma? I'm on the fence.

As I mentioned earlier, in terms of one specific party. I'm a bit politically homeless at the moment. So I don't really follow all of the... I don't know, it's like when you like a celebrity, you don't go and check what they eat for dinner. I haven't really been following all of the infighting and the drama. But partly for me, when it comes to reform, they kind of just have become the party of infighting,

which has just been a bit of a put off of me. When Zia Yusuf came in, listen, whenever I actually listened to the guy on GB News, for example, or whatever, I rarely, rarely find myself disagreeing with him. I like a lot of what he says. I think he's a really strong debate, and he's really articulate in what he says. I think he's really good.

However, there is this whole conversation of how much power he has within reform. and I think that's perfectly reasonable to have that concern. So I don't know. I think that because of all of the infighting and the drama that we've already had in reform, this on top of that doesn't, it's not a good look. It doesn't make it likely that there's nothing much more behind it. I think there is maybe something a bit more behind it like we've seen before.

But like I said, I don't follow reform closely enough to be able to say either way. All I know is that for me, it just is another thing that just doesn't make them look good. It just makes them look like they're still kind of scrambling between each other, trying to find out what they agree on and what they disagree on. Yeah, the other big moment of the week that has concerned a lot of people, including me, is Nigel Farage's attack on X because this was like how the lefties operate. And by calling Elon Musk's platform dangerous, I believe this is the start of Nigel joining with the uny party to try and go for,

for social media censorship. Personally, I believe he's doing this because X is really the one platform where Rupert Lowe and Restore Britain are not censored, unlike on other media platforms like TV News, for example. But here's a reminder of what Nigel said. To those of you who might be tempted

to think that we as a party have headed in a nativist or even racial direction, the sheer number. The sheer number of ethnic minority candidates that we're standing in this campaign, especially in London, is remarkable. Quite remarkable. We haven't made a song and dance about it. We don't.

We just don't. We don't really care if people that men or women or black or white or whatever they are or what their chosen preferences are. We really want to judge people for who they are and what they can do, such as our belief in meritocracy. But I would add, I would add, that the online abuse on X, the online abuse on X that our minority candidates are receiving is utterly appalling in every way.

And if it was happening to any other candidates from more established parties in a sense of their age, you would all be in total uproar. And I've not heard a single person comment on it. It really, really is bad. And X is now becoming, X is now becoming a very unpleasant and very dangerous place. huge concerns about that. Elon Musk responded immediately describing Farage as the definition of

controlled opposition. But there was other, uh, more interesting discussion about this. Like, look at Dylan Smith. Back in 2024, the British people asked for a nationalist party and for a time they received one. However, Reform UK is no longer that party. They have transitioned into a democratic socialist party becoming indistinguishable from the Labour Party. Now the party is upset with us for our dissatisfaction, especially regarding their candidate selection process. They have chosen individuals representing almost every other nationality on this planet except for us, the native English, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish inhabitants of these islands. We asked for a nationalist alternative and instead we got more of the same that we saw from our current and past governments.

Britain deserves better and that better is Restore Britain. Steve Lotus said reform support is a lot thinner than Farage realisers. Things like this will see it evaporate quickly. And Liz Churchill described him as a, this is from stateside, a spineless traitor who has betrayed every British citizen who trusted him, then runs to the regime media to complain. Advance UK leader Ben Habib was disgusted too, posting the whole point about free speech is the right to insult. The second you insist social norms are observed, free speech dies. Nigel Farage does not understand this. Neither does he understand that without X, there would be no Reform Party or British right wing, we would have been cancelled. Keep insulting.

And reclaim leader Lawrence Fox added Farage is the worst possible thing. That will happen to Britain. The entire woke edifice is built on shutting down free speech. He's fully signed up to the woke agenda, establishment shill, Ponzi scheme operator, indistinguishable from the uni party. Father Calvin Robinson was a little bit kinder. Oh, bless him. Nigel Farage begging the mainstream media to have his back and calling online people racist. This is so sad. How far has he fallen? Not just joining legacy media and being a leftist, but leading them in calling X a very dangerous place.

Now, Lee, this really concerned me. It really concerned me. And you know I have obviously had a long time relationship with Nigel Farage. We work together. I know him. But this was a place I genuinely never expected him to go. I mean, Lee, literally at the start of last. year, Nigel Farage was in Mar-a-Lago with Elon Musk, wanting him to pull out his checkbook.

All of a sudden, that platform is dangerous. Why? Because he won't ban, restore Britain. That, by the way, is not to say that horrible things don't happen on X every single day of the week. I have been on X since it started, right? Since it was Twitter. I get abuse every single day of the week. horrible things happen because people are horrible. People are horrible. It's actually not to do with the platform. But after watching that, I don't think Nigel Farage does believe in free speech. And that hugely concerns me.

I have a very clear take on this. Nigel Farage should not have criticised Twitter at all. That was a bad thing to say because Twitter has been very helpful. X has been very helpful to Nigel Farge and the right. I'm a staunch supporter of X, as you well know. That was a stupid thing to say. However, I have noticed, as well as a couple of other people that you know as well, Dan, that have genuinely received some awful, awful racist and vile abuse.

Some of the stuff that I genuinely shocked me. Of course. But, you know, hold on. We all receive that. No, no, no. I totally get that, but I think the point is, is I have noticed it, we have seen it. If he just stuck to just saying that, and I know what he was referring to, he was referring to the, you remember the candidate announcements that were coming out, we had a slew of people

sort of basically just picking all of the ethnic minority candidates and saying, look, reform was just picking ethnic minority candidates, that's not right. and implying that it came across. I'm not sure if this is what they implied completely, but it came across as basically because they aren't white, they shouldn't be running for reform. Now, I'm sure that that's not what was behind a lot of it. In fact, I do know.

I know Basil very well. Basil got involved. I know he's not like that. But I disagreed with Nigel blaming X. Maybe he shouldn't have brought it up at all, but there's also a strategy behind this as well. The strategy behind this is that the reason that Nigel is, or reform in general, not necessarily just Nigel, reform in general, are getting very close potentially to

getting into government. And one of the things that Nigel needs to do is try and get that centre ground, you sadly, in the system that we have, which I do respect and like, first past the post, you have to get people to vote for you who don't necessarily agree with your politics. The closer we get to an election, it's more important for Nigel to try and get rid of this kind of tagged the MSN. And let's be fair, mainstream media have been kinder to Nigel. Don't get me wrong, in recent years than they used to be. But I suspect that what he's been trying to do is just saying, look, we are not a racist party. We're not far right. We're not, we're not all this nonsense, all these buzzwords that don't really mean anything anyway. And this is kind of a media play.

And in typical Nigel Farage fashion, I think he overplayed his hand by blaming X. But I think that's the only mistake he made. I am glad that he has raised what we've seen on X. Some of it has been utterly awful. Based on Boogie, who I love to bits, the abuse that she has had, and I've seen it in the comments, it's disgusting. And I've got to admit, I am, doesn't, like I said, it doesn't take a lot to shock me, but it's been very visible. Now, I'm quite glad that he's come out and said something about that, but he just ruined it by blaming X. That was the totally wrong thing to do. There's no conspiracy.

I don't think he is against shutting down free speech in the slightest and that's the mistake he made. See, I think he is, Emma, because why has he turned on Elon Musk and X? He's turned on Elon Musk and X because Elon Musk turned on Farage and started backing Rupert Lowe

and restore Britain because X has not really changed over the past time since, I mean, it's changed a lot since Musk took over, but not when Nigel Farage was more than happy to receive Musk's endorsement and wanted Musk's money. So what's changed? Does that Musk no longer backs reform?

That's the only change that I can see, really. I do agree with Lee that there is a lot of stuff that is absolutely horrendous on X. I actually get some of it myself. Yes. We all do. We all do. I'll let you come back, but I just want to say very, very quickly.

There are terrible people on X. The problem is when it was Twitter, what happened? They started banning so-called terrible people, but those terrible people were Graham Linnahann, Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins. The Taliban is on X. You know, it's like, this is free speech. This is free speech.

There are horrible people deal with it. Exactly. There are comments that have got my backup there of comments that I've thought, like, bloody out, like, that's not just like horrible or mean. That's like really sadistic. Like really, someone's really thought that out. But at the end of the day, you have to, especially when you are visible on the stage of media, however small or large it might be, you have to just let it go.

And I'm sorry, but blaming X was completely the wrong decision. I mean, this was back when Zia Yusuf first joined reform and people had legitimate questions about how reformed all of a sudden seemingly been taken over by Zia Yousev, Farage said that any questions about him was Islamophobia. So there is, there is, like Lee said, I think he just completely overplayed his hand. He had a point kind of hidden in there somewhere, but by saying what he said and blaming X,

I think he's just completely shot himself in the foot over that. And to just come back on the comments about, you know, how ethnic minorities in parties and if they're not British and all that kind of argument, I think that it's perfectly acceptable to want your country represented in the party you're voting for. I'm not saying all white people, but if I was to go over to China, I wouldn't expect to see a bunch of British people in power. I would expect to see Chinese people. If I went over to Jamaica, I'd expect to see Jamaican people and vice versa for any country you get. I think that it's only, it's kind of, it made me think about this thing earlier as well when Starma was

saying, this is our flag. Who is our? The flag belongs to us. Who is us? Is there an us? We aren't allowed to say that we are a people. No, because if so you're racist. And this is the problem. It opens the door to deriding a lot of people as racist. And yet we see the tip whisperer, Zach Dave Polanski being able to advocate for the eradication of all. right wing is and there's absolutely zero outrage about it either. So I think Nigel, who was sort of trying to say, well, you've got to care about the people going for our people. You know, it's just a dodgy path to go down. Look, I want to have a little bit of fun with reform though. Do you guys know this 19 year old kid George Finch who became leader of the Warwickshire County Council? He's certainly

receiving a lot of heat on social media. Reese posted, saw this on TikTok. I didn't realize Ricky Jervais, head a side gig media training reform councillors. And it's a result of this video made by The Times. Watch. Me. It's about the people out there. Hang on. Is that okay?

Can you see that if he's jumping up? If you've got power, you can't just wield it willy-nilly. You have to be sensible about it. That's something I know as leading this council. You know, yes, I'm young, but I'm not just going to go around and say, right, that's it. you're doing this, this is being done, you have to just take a step back, understand what it's like to be in charge of a council. No 19-year-old's done it before. And yes, some people might not agree with reform policies or our policies. Councilors might not agree. But what I would say to that

is get better at elections. Being in this chair, being in this office, it's amazing. But if, you know, if a general election comes and I get asked to stand as a council, candidate, that will be the biggest honour of my life. I will have the same ethos, honesty, integrity and transparency. Because if you haven't got those, what's the point of doing anything? Oh, I don't know. Lee, Emma, blissom. Isn't it?

It is precious. I really, I think he's quite a nice lad. But I watched that and I got to admit I was crying. And I've seen it again. It's so funny. that the Ricky Javez thing from the office, which I loved, by the way, it is exactly like that.

It's just absolutely brilliant. Yeah, cringeworthy, but very funny. I think he is a nice lad. Yeah, it is a little bit cringeworthy, but I think it's just adorable that we have a bunch of teenagers just putting suits on and setting the camera up and acting like politicians because, you know, hopefully it will, you know, put them on the right track

and they'll go in the right direction. Am I would rather that than him down at the skate park smoking dope, you know, graffitiing the walls. Doing a TikTok dance. Yeah, doing a TikTok dance. Exactly. So I look, I actually don't want. I hear, I get it, right? I get what everyone's saying.

And if I'd done that at 19, my God, I would have humiliated myself. But I don't really want to jump on the whole bandwagon of attacking this guy actually because I think it's really cool. what he's doing actually but you know just don't invite the mainstream media and i'm going to humiliate you basically breaking today russell brand has admitted to a sexual relationship with a 16 year old girl in an extraordinary interview with megan kelly which is going viral around the world for all of the wrong reasons this is of course just months before brand returns to the UK for his sex trial where he is facing numerous rape allegations and of course a lengthy prison sentence. Now, for a very long time, I have been of the belief that Brand is being targeted by

the deep state because he has turned on them. They treated him as an absolute hero as the shaggar of the year according to the son when he was a lefty who loved Owen Jones, who wanted Ed Miliband to be elected when he was married to Katie Perry. He was a hero. All of a sudden his sex life became a problem when he was exposing the COVID vaccines, when he was exposing the corrupt war in Ukraine when he was supporting President Donald Trump. So trust me, I don't come to this story with any type of anti-Russell brand rhetoric. But I also understand the complete revolver. The complete revulsion around the world about the entertainment industry, about these monsters who think it's appropriate to use their Hollywood power to try and bed 16-year-old girls, girls. And just because it might be legal here in the United Kingdom doesn't make it right.

But ironically, Russell Brand is acknowledging all of that. Anyway, I think one of the reasons this is so interesting is that Megan Kelly has definitely seemed to change her position. So she's a good friend of mine, by the way, as well. And I spoke to her about this, and I will show you that. But this was her with Russell Brand on this issue on her show. Front, I was angry when I saw that because they did it in such a compelling way that, especially the stuff about the 16-year-old, that I was angry with you. I believed what they said, or at least believed that there was enough smoke,

there might be fire, and said to the audience at the time, you know, The conservative movement doesn't need somebody like that. Like we love what he's saying about COVID, but if this is a guy who's sexually assaulting women and taking advantage of 16-year-olds, we need to move on without him and felt that anger for a couple of years around you because I just thought it was so reckless

and it was so wrong. And I knew that it might be false, but it seemed overwhelming, the way that they presented the evidence. And then the more I looked at it, the more I started to recognize, I might not know the full story because since then I have seen what the British government has done, what my own government has done to certain figures that it doesn't like. And I have an enormous amount of open-mindedness to you are being railroaded and

attacked by people for reasons having nothing to do with actual facts, but with your right-leaning stance on certain issues. Your growing prominence as a figure in a bunch of discussions that they find very threatening. Now, that is actually what I think, too. It did surprise me, though, because when Megan and I had discussed this at the time, when I was back on G.B. News, she had a very different view. But she does admit that, but I just want to show you what she said. I don't really care if it turns out that the rape charge or the sexual assault charges

fall apart. You're 31 years old, and you have sex, allegedly, over a three-month period with a 16-year-old, We're done. I'm unsubscribing, all right? And I am sick of conservatives online trying to defend that as though she had a role in it. She was a minor. Just because you can't be prosecuted for it. It doesn't mean it's right.

The conservative men I know are lovely. They're ethical. They're honorable. It's not to say they've never fallen down in their lives. But in no world would they be taking advantage of a 16-year-old minor. I have a daughter who's four years away from that. You come anywhere near her as a 31-year-old man, and we are going to have a serious problem. And it's not going to be over whether you get demonetize on YouTube.

I really hope my friends and the conservative side of the aisle would remember just because we're all over me too. And it was an overreaction, and it went too far. And it got politicized. Doesn't mean that we have to knee-jerk defend every scumbag who gets accused of bad behavior. So I want to show you the explanation for sleeping with the 16-year-old. old from Russell App. Thank you, Megan Kelly, for giving me the grace to address in particular your anger, which is entirely legitimate and recognisable.

And the plain fact of it is that in Europe and in the United Kingdom where I'm from, the age of consent is 16. And I did sleep with a 16 year old when I was 30. But when I was 30, I was a very different person. I was a lot younger and I was an immature 30-year-old. Consensual sex, actually, with a variety of people, when there is a strong power differential, as there is when you're a famous man that has the ability to attract women that I had at that time, I think involves exploitation. I think it is exploitative.

I recognise that my sexual conduct in the past was selfish and I did not apply enough consideration, barely any, I suppose, really, to how that sex was affecting other people. The only matter that I would contest while acknowledging, firstly, your right to be angry as a woman who are given what I know about you in the industry you've worked in, I'm sure that you have personal reasons

for feeling aggrieved towards powerful men. A lot of British right-wingers, though, are truly disgusted by that interview. Charlie Sansom, my friend, for example, posting, this is totally and utterly reprehensible. No 30-year-old man should be going near a 16-year-old for sex, arguing the age of consent as a defence will not stand with any decent parent in Britain. Disgusting. And again, where this is difficult, weirdly Russell isn't really disagreeing with that. He's simply saying that it wasn't a crime. And he does make clear to Megan,

that he does believe he will avoid jail because yes, the sex may have been a moral, but none of it was illegal. As soon as I've said, I'm not guilty, what I'm in effect saying is, I had consensual sex with lots of lots of women, and you can argue that that's not appropriate. But the age of consent is an important thing.

The ability to consent is an important thing, like i.e. drunk people can't consent, mentally ill people can't consent, children can't consent. Consent is what's important. And what fame gave me and what addiction fueled was opportunity for endless consent, which led me to be a hedonist and a fool and an exploiter of women. And that is wrong. And Russell Brand has, of course, made it clear he has now turned to God.

Posting in the past few hours amidst this controversy, I was baptized two years ago, Shakespeare's birthday, too cool. To my superstar panel, the independent journalist Lee Harris and Emma Dunwell. Emma, your view. This is obviously, it's a sensitive topic. But I do think, oh, this is, it's either way, which way you say this, you're going to get hate, so I don't care. But I do think that that is probably one of the most genuine apologies and self-reflections I've ever seen of at least a public figure or a celebrity. of any kind. Not only that, before I was actually unaware of this story until recently,

but before then I'd been watching Russell over the last few months and his videos and everything like that. And to me, he has absolutely turned to Christ. He is like a completely different person to the Russell brand that I knew when I was growing up, when I was a kid. And to me, this story is more about actual redemption and what does that really look like in an unforgiving world. I've seen ISIS members turn to Christ and as a Christian I do believe that if you are truly repentant and if your heart is good then you are forgiven. If you want if you want Jesus, Jesus wants you back. So I think that this is more a story about redemption but obviously yeah there needs there needs to be a conversation about we can't, even on the legality of it, we need to talk about the fact that there

was a 30 year old man that had the attraction, not only the opportunity, but had the attraction to a 16 year old. That is a separate issue in itself as far as I'm concerned. But yeah, then obviously we talk about in the world that he was living in, in that celebrity culture, things get weird, the era that it was in. So I completely understand people's outrage, disgust. I'm still feeling a bit myself, but I do kind of think that if you can try and see the redemption and actually look at the timeline of what he was like and what he is like now and how he has, I think, stood the test of time, then I think that this is more about the fact that anything can be redeemed through Christ. Yeah, I mean, my God, he has absolutely repented, Lee,

That's the thing. He's never in the interview. I watched the whole thing. He is never once trying to excuse what he did. He's just insistingly that he never broke the law, that all of his sex was consensual. And I know a lot of people in other countries will be surprised because in a lot of countries, the age of consent is 18, but of course here in the United Kingdom and is 16. And that is relatively standard across most of Europe. Yeah, it's very difficult, actually, to disagree with anything. that Emma has just said. I agreed with a lot of that. My insta, I'll be honest, completely honest, my knee-jerk reaction was quite repulsed at hearing that. She's 16 years old and he was 30.

I remember being 30 just about. It wouldn't, nothing like that would have ever crossed my mind because of like Emma pointed out that the age difference would have put me off anyway, even if she was a very mature 16-year-old, whatever. It would have just completely put me off. So I was initially repulsed. And then I had a chat with my wife. about this and said, what do you make of this? And she said that, she said the same that, yeah, that doesn't sit well with me at all,

but the point that you're making is valid. We have to judge, I think, each of our sins in the way that, in context, right? So did he murder someone? No. I hope that isn't going to come across as badly as it sounds. But I'm just trying to make the point that if it was consensual and it was legal, and listening to how he described his opinion of how he described his actions,

he actually kind of took the words out of my mouth because the biggest word that was in my head was the exploitation of him being, you know, a famous celebrity and basically just taking advantage of people, whether that was his intention or not. Only he knows that. But I do have sympathy with the with the concept of someone like him knowing who he is and him on his side just thinking it was fun and it wasn't necessarily as bad as he's saying it is but my my knee joke reaction was was quite repulsed by what I heard but I'm I am quite a forgiving person as well again it does genuinely depend on what we are forgiving I don't just forgive anything I don't think I'll ever forgive Kirstama ever right so

It really does depend on what we're forgiving. But I think on this one, he articulately explained, or articulately pointed out, I should say, the points that were running immediately around my head about the exploitation. And if it was consensual and a lot of time has passed, then, yeah, on balance, it's a black mark against him without a shadow. Well, I mean, could I make a really quick? point. I just think that I just wanted to add that the way he actually

kind of analyzed it almost like his own psychiatrist, I think I would even go further to say that when he said, explained how the constant flow of consent and access to consent made him hedonistic, I think that the way he broke that down and explained that may actually influence this from not happening in continuing to happen in celebrity culture. So I think that specifically someone like Brand, who is always willing to be open and honest about these things, do not shut this down. Let him speak openly about it because I think that it will influence celebrity culture in a good way and get it away from the exploitative scene that it has been. Yeah, indeed. And look, obviously, I think it's still a question as to whether the sex was consensual and Megan Kelly, in fairness to her,

she very much believes in the judicial process. I'm not as comfortable that in the United Kingdom we do have much of justice system anymore. But she was certainly not advocating during the interview that Russell Brand was innocent. What she was saying is that we need to allow that trial to play out. And almost as if she will go with what the verdict is in that trial. And that trial, of course, takes place in October. But thank you so much to my amazing superstar. panel today, Lee Harris. He can be found, of course, on X. The brilliant independent journalist,

he is also now on Substack. And Emma Dunwell, who is at E speaks freely on YouTube. Her podcast is absolutely brilliant. Thank you both so much. And we're about to reveal the worst Britain in the world this week. A reminder, your nominees are from our Union Jackasses across the week. on Monday it was Rachel Reeves, on Tuesday it was Kea Stama, on Wednesday it was Zach Polanski. We are coming to you early with this result this week because we have a special episode tomorrow, which I'm going to tell you about in just one moment. But first of your comments, Dave Mates is Polanski's recent interview where he talked about excluding the right wing from society needs more examination.

Absolutely. I think it's disgusting that the mainstream media have just ignored this story. I certainly haven't. Interrogator Chaplin says people have short-term memories. Starma is merely the one at the end of the strengths. Tony Blair is very. the real corporate and I've not forgotten. John Chesney, 1971, says it's time to tear this government down, all of them,

and start with a new system of running this country where the people run it with no corruption, scumbags robbing the British people. I'm done with this shit. From Robert Bills, I'm not really sure if Stama is British, because he sure doesn't seem to give two shits for the British people. Centitent microwave added, Stamlin is still undefeated. I loved that.

Yes, because he is like our version of Stalin, isn't he? Okay, we've had over 50,000 votes so far, which is just absolutely incredible. Thank you so much. And in third place, this doesn't usually happen. Rachel from accounts, she received just 2% of the vote. The runner-up with 12% of your vote. The tit whisperer, Zach Dave Polanski. But the worst Britain in the world this week with a one. Wapping 86% of your vote is the British Prime Minister for now, slippery Stama. Now, we have a very special edition of Outspoken tomorrow. Please be with us at 5 o'clock because I think it's super important. As you know, all of the mainstream media have been running election debates without Restore Britain. They are trying to ignore this political force. So for the first time ever, Restore Britain tomorrow here on Outspoken debates the Green Party. and Reform UK, both insurgent parties.

And let's just say, things got pretty heated. Watch. Entering the country, you do not associate them as if they're criminals or guilty first. That's what everyone else is doing in this room right now. With good reason. No, it's not. Yes, it is.

The Green Party wants to see a world without borders. That's your policy. The terrorists come in on the boats. You cannot call them. Oh, I call many of them all. No. No, you are, but that's wrong.

I will. You are under investigation right now, so I would be very quiet as to what you're saying. I don't want reform. I want to see it torn to the ground. Yeah, I'll explain why I said that. What about saying that NHS are eating food banks out of business? Was that a reference to the weight of nurses in this country? Well, 20% of them are overweight. That's just statistic.

You posted a picture on X, which appears to mock bombing in Gaza. Children and innocent women being bombed is a joke for you? Will you? This will have badly for you, my friend. The reason why there is this Islamist takeover of our country. There's no one. Are you serious? Are you serious?

Did you see Trafal square the other day? It is authorized by the council, just like every other faith. And the Lord of America. You don't think Sidney Khan is engaging in an Islamist takeover of this country. What? That is the debate that you will never see. On sly news, on Wokai TV, on the British bashing corporation, on Talk TV, G.B News, but you will see it here on outspoken. The first election debate between Reform

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