Dan Wootton Outspoken - STARMER HUMILIATED BY JD VANCE AS HE SLAMS UK GOVT & BACKS TOMMY ROBINSON'S UNITE THE KINGDOM

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

BREAKING TODAY: A seismic moment at the White House ignored by the corrupt British mainstream media, as the US Vice President JD Vance backs Tommy Robinson and the patriots at the Unite the Kingdom ra...lly over our despicable leaders Slippery Starmer and Calamity Lammy. And the threat of the Islamist takeover of the UK remains clear every day, with Elon Musk weighing on the horrifying case of murdered Essex teen Henry Nowak, as shocking new footage emerges from Tower Hamlets. That’s why the Makerfield by-election is the most important of our lifetime and possibly ever, with shocking leftist attacks on the Reform UK plumber candidate Robert Kenyon. But the fightback against Andy Burnham has begun as shocking leaked footage reveals he advocates for men in women’s toilets. Our Superstar Panel is up after the Digest: Father Calvin Robinson – host of the relaunched Common Sense Crusade on YouTube – Reform UK’s Kane Blackwell, who is also an organiser of CPAC GB, Restore Britain firebrand Lucy White and Reform UK candidate and broadcaster Dr Roger Gewolb. And then: Rikki Doolan, the Unite the Kingdom singer and preacher, is here for an exclusive interview as he announces he is SUING Piers Morgan for his false claims on Uncensored. PLUS: Matt Goodwin reveals the Reform UK civil war is ON as Adam Boulton falls for Farage fake news, despite calling for GB News to be shut down. AND: GB News star Benjamin Butterworth accuses ITV’s Good Morning Britain and Susanna Reid of a cover up over another one of their presenters. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle’s latest PR stunt using British Airways crew members has been exposed by royal YouTube sensation According2Taz, who will join us. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken #uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Witten. This is outspoken episode number 496. And breaking today, a seismic moment at the White House is ignored by the corrupt British mainstream media and elite class as the US Vice President J.D. Vance backs Tommy Robinson and the Patriots at the United Kingdom Rally over our despicable leaders, Cypri Stama and Calamity Lammy. What you see all over the West, and it's kind of crazy, is this idea that the way to generate prosperity is to bring in millions and millions of unvetted people and drop them into your neighborhoods, and we simply reject that idea. So to everybody in the UK who rejects that idea, I'd encourage them to just keep on going. But we will act decisively against hatred. We will use the full force of the law when that hatred manifests as violence. and we will ban those coming into the UK
Starting point is 00:00:57 who seek to stir it up as we have done already because this country belongs to all of us and I will not tolerate anyone who seeks to stand in the way of that you're the reason that J.D. Vance is talking about
Starting point is 00:01:14 what's just happened in London. You're all the reason that the world is looking that Britain many people feel inspired in Britain that there's something happening, there's something shifting, there's something moving. And the threat of the Islamist takeover of the UK remains clear every single day. With Elon Musk weighing in on the horrifying case of the murdered S-16 Henry Nowak, as shocking new footage emerges from Tower Hamlets.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Tommy Robinson, yeah? No, if I catch it, Tom's Robinson. Amo. Yeah? Well, that's all I'm saying. Islam. Big up. Islam.
Starting point is 00:01:52 And this is why the Makerfield by-election is the most important of our lifetime and possibly ever, with shocking leftist attacks on the Reform UK plumber candidate Robert Kenyon. I'm absolutely made up to be standing and I cannot wait to get out there and meet all the voters. On June the 18th, make sure you get out and vote for Reform UK. Hours after Reform UK announced their Makerfield by-election candidate today, his ex-account was suspended. Screenshots show him replying to a man who, who was jailed for stowing up racial hatred during the Southport riots.
Starting point is 00:02:39 But the fight back against our real enemy, Andy Burnham, has begun, as shocking leaked footage reveals this hard leftist advocates for men in women's toilets. People are falsely portraying their gender in a different way, just because they want to, you know, abuse of women's space or encroach on women's safety. Maybe it happens, but you're talking here, tiny, tiny, tiny people. Your Labour MP has stepped down to allow Andy Burnham to run for Parliament. This expensive by-election will cost taxpayers five million pounds and is only about his own personal ambition.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And it is fair to say temperatures across the country are at boiling point. With Rachel from accounts, the Chancellor, actually getting into a fight with a reform supporter at a petrol station in Leeds today. The country, get chaos down the road. Look, England flags. It's a useless. Labor parties are useless. I love our country.
Starting point is 00:03:57 And one of the things about our country is good manners. Not very British. And I think tensions are going to reach even higher today with this news, which is just a that the jury in the trial of the two brothers accused of assaulting an armed police officer at Manchester have been discharged after they failed to reach verdicts. So we're going to get into that all with our superstar panel straight after the digest. Father Calvin Robinson, host of the newly relaunched Common Sense Crusade now on YouTube. Reform UK's Kane Blackwell, he is also an organiser of CPACGB,
Starting point is 00:04:46 Restore Britain Firebrand, Lucy White, and Reform UK candidate and broadcaster Dr Roger Giewold. And then, Ricky Doolin, the Unite the Kingdom singer and preacher, is here for an exclusive interview as he reveals he is suing Pierce Morgan for this. Finally, Tommy Robinson and me agree about something, cutting that. monstrosity off before it could finish. And to be fair to him, he has united the kingdom in condemning what we just heard as possibly, and I speak as a former judge on Britain's got talent, the least talented singing we've ever heard on these aisles. Also coming up on the show today, Matt Goodwin reveals the Reform UK Civil War is on as Adam Bolton falls for Farage fake news,
Starting point is 00:05:38 despite calling for GB News to be shut down. And GB News star Benjamin Butterworth accuses ITV's Good Morning Britain and Susanna Reid of a cover-up over another one of their presenters. We'll get into this intriguing story. Then, in the Royal Uncancled After Show over on Stubbsack, Megan Markle's latest PR stunt using British Airways crew members, has been exposed by Royal YouTube Sensation according to Taz. She will join us. That's at www.outspoken.live. We're also revealing a brand new, greatest Britain and Union Jackass,
Starting point is 00:06:09 hairy on nominees for the worst Britain in the world today, put forward by our superstar panel. Lucy White has gone for Nadine Dorris for trying to repeal the Online Safety Act even though she pushed the Act through Parliament. Father Calvin has gone for slippery Stama for being humiliated on the world stage by Jady Vance and Ricky Dolan, who's here later, has gone for Owen Jones for using AI fakes like Pierce Morgan.
Starting point is 00:06:37 He has zero journalistic integrity. So get voting and we will announce the Greatest Britain later too. But now, let's go. A seismic moment at the White House from the Vice President of the United States of America that should be leading every MSM broadcaster in this country and should be emblazoned across all the newspaper front pages, but instead has been completely ignored as further proof, I believe, of just how much our elite classes hate patriots. J.D. Vance, you probably haven't heard about this, slam. Slippery Stahmer's position on Tommy Robinson's Unite the Kingdom Rally,
Starting point is 00:07:22 offering full-throttled support to those of us in the disunited kingdom desperate to stop the Islamist takeover of our country. Number two, since you asked about Great Britain and the United Kingdom Rally, one of the ironies, one of the great ironies of this job is that for the past couple of years, you see these protests break out all over the country, and sometimes, you know, they're fairly well attended, and sometimes they're very poorly attended. Everybody holds these signs saying no kings, right?
Starting point is 00:07:50 And how many democratic lawmakers have I seen holding up signs that say no kings? They are very, very insistent that we not have kings. And then King Charles comes to the congressional chamber, and these guys break out in rapturous applause. So maybe they don't care so much about kings as they pretend that they do. Maybe they just don't like the agenda that we're implementing that's actually making American workers and American families safe and prosperous again. But to answer your question about this immigration issue, look, one of the problems that we have in all of Western societies is that we have a lot of people who've decided
Starting point is 00:08:26 Wall Street bankers, corporate lobbyists and government officials that what the United States and what the West need is more and more cheap labor. What we believe in this White House is what we need more and more of is high wages for American workers and investing in our own people. But Jadie Vance wasn't done there. More in just a moment. I do want to remind you, though, what slippery Stama and Calamity Lammy had to say about the UTK Patriots.
Starting point is 00:08:49 But we will act decisively against hatred. We will use the full force of the law when that hatred manifests as violence. And we will ban those coming into the UK who seek to stir it up as we have done already. Because this country belongs to all of us. And I will not tolerate anyone who seeks to stand in the way of it. of that. There were 43 arrests made, 11 of them for hate speech,
Starting point is 00:09:19 and my job, working with the Home Secretary was to ensure that people could not fly into our country from abroad to stir up hate and division on our streets, so we barred them from the ability to do that. Jane Evans knows how wrong those two assholes are, and actually he is now actively
Starting point is 00:09:36 encouraging Tommy Robinson supporters to keep on going in a massive if you to two-tier care's face. government. What you see all over the West, and it's kind of crazy, is this idea that the way to generate prosperity is to bring in millions and millions of unvetted people and drop them into your neighborhoods, and we simply reject that idea. So to everybody in the UK who rejects that idea, I'd encourage them to just keep on going. It's okay to want to defend your culture. It's okay to want to live in a safe neighborhood. It's okay to want your job to go to yourself and your
Starting point is 00:10:12 neighbors and not to a stranger who you don't even know. It is reasonable for the people in Western societies to want to control who comes into their country and who doesn't. A lot of people, a lot of people in the media have tried to persuade all of those people that it's somehow racist to want to protect your borders, even though very often the very people who are most affected by low-wage immigration are lower-income black and Hispanic Americans right here in the United States of America and I guarantee that's true in the UK. So we believe in making America great again. You can't do that unless you protect your borders. I'd encourage our friends in the UK to follow the same path. A jubilant Toby Robinson responded as Kirstama and his ilk attack how will unite the
Starting point is 00:10:56 kingdom and the West rally as far right racists. The second in command to the leader of the free world Jady Vance praises us all and understands our message. Jadie Vance just said what millions of British people have been saying for years. Protecting your borders, protecting your culture, wanting safe communities, wanting your own people prioritise. That isn't extremism. That's normal. The fact this conversation has now been had openly at the White House tells you everything about the world is heading. The UTK Freedom Rally was one of the proudest days of my life. What people didn't see was the months of pressure, the last minute restrictions, the chaos behind the scenes, and the incredible team who made it happen despite every obstacle being put in our way.
Starting point is 00:11:35 This wasn't just a rally. Something shifted in Britain on Saturday to every steward, volunteer, supporter, and every person who donated five or 10 pounds or simply turned up peacefully. Thank you. You made history. Now the real work begins. Get fit, get healthy, get politically active, get involved in your communities. We are the people. And he believes it is patriots like you who are shifting the Overton window. John Wells needs the biggest applause. Every one of you that went through and risked your reputation, risk your career, risk you everything, to come into that city and stand with your fellow patriots and enjoy that beautiful day. So every one of you that made up a number, you're the reason that J.D. Vance is talking about what's just happened in London.
Starting point is 00:12:22 You're all the reason that the world is looking, that Britain, many people feel inspired in Britain, that there's something happening, there's something shifting, there's something moving. Ricky, Doolan and his band, amazing, beautiful. The girls, beautiful. All of them, beautiful. That's the only way I described that day is just beautiful. Another way for it.
Starting point is 00:12:40 It was beautiful. What's clear is that something is changing, even within Reform UK. Because Nigel Farage's number one girl, June Slater, has gone public with her support of Tommy Robinson, and she is very confident that Nigel Farage will not discipline her as a result. And the other crap I'm sick of is, Oh, do you know, get in trouble with Nigel Because she's shared something about Tommy Robinson, no, I won't
Starting point is 00:13:09 I've never been in trouble with Nigel for sharing anything about Tommy, bloody Robinson. Guess what? Nigel Farage knows that I'm an individual that can do what a bloody hell I want. I've never been a member of VEDL and I've never joined the BMP, I've never joined any political parties. So I'll say, what I want, whenever I want on my pages. And if you don't like it, I'm going down the Tommy route. Suck it up.
Starting point is 00:13:29 This man has had enough bloody greed. to last anybody a lifetime. He can't get a proper job if he wants one, can he? Because nobody will bloody employ him because the media, your television screen, has made it impossible. They've made it as impossible for him to live a life as he did with Enoch Powell and they crushed his career.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Everybody that goes around now thinks Enoch Powell was a racist. This is a man who completely respected India and all it had to offer. Learned people's languages so he could communicate better, and was an absolutely fantastic military strategist. And Tommy Robinson, whether you agree with him or you don't, I put his life and soul into what he does. And I'll support who the bloody hell I want.
Starting point is 00:14:08 And I support reform politically. And I support Tommy Robinson as a very effective activist. And if you don't like it, bum off. Well, that is quite some way from where Reform Deputy Richard Tice was when he said this on GBC News. Tommy Robinson, people have been protesting in his name. What do you make of Tommy Robinson? Is he a good guy in your eyes? No.
Starting point is 00:14:30 All of that lot, we have nothing to do with them. Even the protesters who have got banners up saying two-tier care, you agree with them on the policing and justice. We agree with ourselves. I'm not aligning ourselves with Tommy Robinson's lot in any shape or awful. Now, there remains a clear and present threat to Tommy Robinson, and it is so shocking that only the independent and foreign media actually care about what's going on with this.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Look at this reporting from Vice Grant. of the 18-year-old Algerian Muhammad Saboos in an interview outside East London mosque in Tower Hamlets, London. Watch. If I catch Tom Robinson, yeah? No, if I catch Tom Robinson.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Amo. Whoa. Yeah? Well, that's all I'm saying. Islam, big up. Islam. Respect everyone. Respect every colour.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Islam's perfect. We're not. Big up. Would you like the United States? give them to be a Muslim country. It's not a Muslim country. We're not here to take home. We're here to just spread our beautiful religion,
Starting point is 00:15:38 spread the peace and spread the love. That's it, my brother. That's it. Just around the corner, Pandemonian broke out in Tower Hamlets as Pakistani and Bangla factions of the Awami League clash at a town hall meeting. This aired live on Bangladeshi TV and one of their new MPs was in attendance.
Starting point is 00:15:58 So when people say there's no Islamist takeover, look at this and tell me I'm wrong. Watch. And where is the horror about the case of Henry Noak? A man has been charged with the murder of this 18-year-old student who was stabbed to death while a night out with his football teammates. This young man was from Chafford Hundred in Essex and he suffered a puncture wound to his chest and two wounds to the back of his leg after becoming involved in an arm. altercation. He was pronounced dead at the scene after officers attended the incident in Belmont
Starting point is 00:17:42 Road, Portswood on Wednesday. 22-year-old Vikram Digua of Southampton has been charged with murder. He has also been charged with possession of a bladed article in a public place. But the case is far more sinister than that description. As Kelly J. Keane revealed, Henry Noak was murdered in December of last year, he was handcuffed by police as he lay dying because his murderer said he'd said something racist. From court, we learn that in his final moments, Mr. Noak can be heard saying, I can't breathe. Police put handcuffs on this young man who was lying on his side, telling officers that he had been stabbed. The officer told Mr. Noak that he was under arrest for suspicion of assault. He repeated that he had not been stabbed. Sorry, he repeated he had been
Starting point is 00:18:41 stabbed, but a male voice said, I don't think you have, mate. He died. Tommy Robinson posted this is fucking outrageous. Prompting Elon Musk to offer, I am happy to fund a wrongful death lawsuit against these disgusting excuses for law enforcement. They damn well better have been fired. And reforms Robert Jenrick added, will there be protests at his death? Will the anti-racism movement even batten eyelid? I suspect not. I've totally lost the plot. This case shames Britain. And that is why the maker field by election is the most important of our lifetime and possibly ever. And that is why there is already such a craven attempt to destroy this man. Reform UK's local plumber candidate Robert Kenyon, who is running to try and stop the future Prime Minister,
Starting point is 00:19:45 Andy Burnham. Hello, I'm Robert Kenyon, and I'm standing for Reform UK in this Makefield by-election. I'm absolutely made up to be standing, and I cannot wait to get out there and meet all the voters. On June the 18th, make sure you get out and vote for Reform UK. And they're scared, the leftists are scared because they know they've got a battle on their hands. Polymarket lets you follow. real-time prediction markets on politics, culture, world events and the big stories everyone is talking about. It's not a focus group and it's not a panel of Westminster Insiders. It's a live snapshot
Starting point is 00:20:21 of where traders think events may be heading. And so far it has Burnham with a 66% chance of winning. But that's not to count out the Reform UK candidate who has a 30% chance or the Restore Britain outside candidate Rebecca Shepard, currently at 5%. But we're going to keep across this. because I think it will be changing a lot in the next fortnight. And this is why the attacks from the left on Kenyon have come almost immediately. Lefty newspaper, the Metro reported, The Reform candidate posted about Asian men assaulting white people en masse and an invasion of foreign criminals. Kenyon also said the far right doesn't exist and demanded King Charles open up his palaces to house asylum seekers
Starting point is 00:21:04 after the monarch called for unity during the Southport riots. Reform has refused to investigate their candidate and said they are proud. to have him representing the Parsi. Good! They should be. Then there was this. Hours after Reform UK announced their Makerfield by-election candidate today, his ex-account was suspended. Screenshots show him replying to a man who was jailed
Starting point is 00:21:28 for stowing up racial hatred during the Southport riots. Robert Kenyon stood for reform in Makerfield in the 2024 general election, taking nearly 32% of the vote and was elected to Wiggin Council earlier this month. In a 2024 interview, he described himself as having served in the British Army. He was a part-time reservist Lance Corporal. Screenshots from his now suspended account show him publicly replying to three figures
Starting point is 00:21:53 with significant far-right connections during the period of unrest following the Southport stabbings in July and August 2024. The first is Wayne O'Rourke, who during the Southport riots spread misinformation claiming the attack was carried out by a Muslim, urged people to get out on the streets and praise rioters burning a car in Sunderland.
Starting point is 00:22:10 He pleaded guilty to publishing material to stir up racial hatred and was jailed for three years in August 2024. Kenyon replied to him on the 30th of July 2024 about police activity in the area. The second is Peter Immanuelsohn, known online as Peter Sweden, a Swedish far-right commentator with hundreds of thousands of followers known for alarmist anti-immigrant content and accusations of Holocaust denial. Kenya replied to him on the 21st of August 2024 about government resources following the riots. The third is Carl Benjamin, known as Sargon of Akkad, who made a rape to him.
Starting point is 00:22:42 joke about Labour MP Jess Phillips has repeatedly used racial slurs and is now the Swindon branch organiser of Restore Britain. His media platform Lotus Eateres describes Restore Britain as its political battering ram. Kenyman replied to him twice in July and August 24, in one post referring to Keir Starmers' Fuhrer's Funker. And they're going for her. They are absolutely going for him. Loads of it is pathetic. Like, look at this. They're trying to say he's a wrong and because a guy called Dylan Carey campaigned with him and Make a Field before being sentenced over the so-called Southport riots 18 months later. How desperate is all of this? Reform supporter Rayal Braverman hit back, writing the sight of the desperate lefty journalist scrambling around in the dirt to find anything they
Starting point is 00:23:28 can to smear this hardworking man makes me sick. Dan Hodges is one of the worst, a common bottom feeder. And Will Kingston of G.B. News added some of the attacks I've seen on the new reform candidate today. One, he is Facebook friends, so practically blood brothers with a former BNP member. Two, he keeps saying he was born in Makerfield, but there are no maternity wards there in 2026. Why would anyone, with talent, want to go into politics if they have to deal with this nonsense? All sides are guilty. We get the politicians we deserve. But I think some of these attacks will actually have the reverse effect, as Basil the Great pointed out, Reform UK's candidate for the Makerfield by-election has had a number of tweets leaked from before his account was deleted, and he's
Starting point is 00:24:09 as F. He even agreed with Rupert Lowe regarding the Birmingham police chief and said the police system is against the native population. When you're done with Nigel being English as a feeling Farage, there will be a place for you at Restore Britain with the real patriots. So that was an interesting take in my view. Thus far, at least reform is doing something it hasn't done. In more recent weeks and months, it's standing by their man. Here's Robert Jenner. We'll come back to that. And now the party, Reform UK, is beginning its own attack on Andy Burnham.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Your Labour MP has stepped down to allow Andy Burnham to run for Parliament. This expensive by-election will cost taxpayers five million pounds and is only about his own personal ambition. He was a Labour Member of Parliament for 16 years. He voted for the Iraq War, served in the Blair and Brown government, and it's part of the political establishment. Let's listen to what the voters have to say. Andy Burnham is very self-entitled thinking he's going to come into here and just take the seat. He's just going to come in, try and get Parliamentary number 10 and not really represents us anymore.
Starting point is 00:25:36 In 2016, you backed Brexit with 65% of the vote, but Andy Burnham has other ideas. The man who could soon oust the Prime Minister hinted Brexit may not be permanent. Long term, I'm going to be honest, I'm going to say it. I hope in my lifetime I see this country rejoined the European. I'm absolutely clear. We've walked it out, stay out. The cost of living has increased since Labour came to power. An expert say Andy Burnham would make it even worse.
Starting point is 00:26:03 The man who said last year the government had to get beyond this thing of being in hot to the bond markets, spook the bond markets. The cost of 10-year borrowing reaching an 18-year high. The ideas that you've got are going to involve a lot more public spending, potentially higher taxes. Even his record as Mayor of Greater Manchester has now been called into question. As Mayor of Greater Manchester, he missed his target on tackling homelessness, missed his affordable housing targets. That's, of course, before we spoke about the Pakistani Raid Gang scandal.
Starting point is 00:26:30 He was slammed by locals, victims and survivors for, as they saw it, being part of the cover-up. To be known from my place of you. That would not have a question. Even Andy Burnham himself understands why people want reform to win. Do you understand why people are voting for reform? 100%. My party and other parties have let them down. He doesn't care about Makerfield. He only cares about himself. Vote reform on Thursday, 18th of June.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And today it has got even worse for Burnham with the Daily Mail uncovering secret footage showing him acting like a hard-left loon by advocating for men in women's toilets. Clearly, there is a group of people who do feel that toilets should be safe space only for women. And, you know, there shouldn't be anyone who was biologically a male shouldn't be allowed in that space. Now, I personally think that's a majority view, I think it's a minority view. Quite small minority view actually and I don't want to see clash as I have seen in the last year clashes between people standing for trans rights and people supposedly selling for women's rights don't start culture wars in Greater Manchester but people are
Starting point is 00:27:49 falsely portray them to their gender in a different way just because they want to you know abuse a women's space or encroach on women's safety I just Maybe it happens, but you're talking here tiny, tiny, tiny number of people. Now that damning video has already cost Burnham the support of Dragons Den star and businessman Duncan Bannentine, who announced last week I decided to throw my support behind Andy Burnham for leadership of the Labour Party and onto PM. But I cannot do that now that I found out he says trans women, i.e. men, should be allowed to use the ladies' toilets. I can never support anyone that does this. Biological women must have. single-sex spaces. And that led Rupert Lowe to reach out to Duncan Bannentine to inform him
Starting point is 00:28:39 that Restore Britain is running this local businesswoman Rebecca Shepard, who is very passionate about small business and rejuvenating our high streets just what Makerfield needs, leading Duncan to reply, she has my support for the by-election now. And Rupert is determined to show that this is not a two-horse race and that Restore has a good chance of sweeping to victory. Posting on X today, looking forward to campaigning with Rebecca tomorrow and Makerfield, dozens of members out today, and we're expecting 500 or so on Saturday. Restore Britain can win it. What's certain is the chances of Burnham winning the seat do look increasingly shaky by the day. But his failing leadership rival where Streeting has done himself no favours, using a farewell speech in Parliament
Starting point is 00:29:33 to suggest that the thing Labour should be focusing on is fighting nationalism. I left the government because we are in the fight of our lives against nationalism. And it is a fight that we are currently losing. Unless we change course, we risk handing the keys of number 10 to reform. And I do not want that on our consciences. For the first time in our history, nationalists are in power in every corner of the United Kingdom. Scottish and Welsh nationalism represents an existential threat
Starting point is 00:30:11 to the future integrity of the United Kingdom. And Reform UK represent a threat to the values and ideals that have made this country great. There's more chance of me being the UK's first gay Prime Minister than that, loser. now the superstar panel. I don't want to be, by the way. Look, Father Cameron Robinson with us
Starting point is 00:30:39 alongside Reform UK's Kane Vacquel Restore Britain's Lucy White and the broadcaster and reform candidate Dr Roger Giewald. Okay, Lucy, there is a battle on right in this by-election and isn't the risk that you run spleen the vote?
Starting point is 00:30:58 And Andy Burner might come through the middle, Lucy. No, I didn't think so at all. So, you know, as a Restore Britain member, I was there in Great Yarmouth and we won 10 out of 10 of the seats. I think Restore Britain have every right to stand in Makerfield. Why shouldn't they? And essentially, what Restore Britain is able to do is galvanized supporters from those that have been disillusioned by British politics for their whole lives. I've spoken to people that only ever voted in the Brexit vote and they've said that they will. be voting for Restore Britain and they haven't voted before because they don't trust the establishment. So I think just because reform is running, why should Restore not run? And also, I personally don't think reform is even a right-wing party to begin with. Yeah, Kane, you don't own this. You don't own this. This is democracy. I know we don't own it. Of course it's democracy, but at the end of the day, you don't want Restore to run, do you? My minister.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Pardon? You don't want Restore to run, though, do you? No, I don't personally, because I know what will happen. They'll split the vote. And Lucy's a very clever woman. She knows, and the idea that she said, the maths, we don't know about the maths. Of course we know about the maths.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Of course, the maths is there for itself. Restore Britain is going to split the vote. They will let Andy Burnham in, and that will be a terrible thing for our country. I just, this is what frustrates me about Restore a lot of the time, is a lot of the people, I agree with on a lot of different issues and I don't think they're bad people. But the problem is they care more about destroying Argyr Farage
Starting point is 00:32:37 and destroying Reform UK than they do about destroying the Labour Party and Andy Burnham. That's the problem. That's what really frustrates me because I care about this country and I know Lucy does and I know many other people do. But at the end of the day, we have to pick a side. And if you're on the side of Britain, then you need to vote reform, UK in this. Oh, you didn't even know.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Daly slipped up that. Freudian split up. Lucy, your response to that because Kane's thrown a lot at you there. I mean, he's effectively saying that you're just a Farage hater. That's what this is about. So I don't think this is anything to do with personal egos of Nigel Farad or Andy Burnham that simply restore Britain are here to take the country back.
Starting point is 00:33:24 We're the only anti-establishment party. and I think the voters know that. Reform have let their masks flip many times, and that is why Restore is the only anti-establishment party running in Makerfield. And, you know, reform isn't even a right-wing party, as I continue to say. And anyone that knows what's best for the country will be voting for Rebecca Shepard, Rebecca Shepard and Restore Britain. Can I just say one thing, Dan?
Starting point is 00:33:53 Sorry. Please. The problem is, Lucy, you just said that Refordshire, restore want to take back Britain, well, you only literally stood in Great Yardath in the last local elections. So if you're going to be the party of Britain, why can't you stand across the entire country? And quite frankly, no, no, no, no, but also quite frankly as well, you didn't even stand as Restore Britain. So did Great Yama first. You're not being fair, are you? Pardon? You're not being fair. This is a brand new party. They want to be a national party. They don't stand national candidates.
Starting point is 00:34:24 They don't have the infrastructure, all the resources. that Reform have yet, but where they did stand, they absolutely swamped it. They took all the votes. It was incredible. We should be congratulating Restore for the results that they got. It was outstanding. All the years that Reform have been around, and let's not forget they were the Brexit Party beforehand, they've got all the same backers, all the same infrastructure, all the same systems in place. They should have stormed it far better than restored it. Restore were outstanding. But I think Lucy's right, absolutely right. There's no vote to split. Kane, whose vote is splitting? My vote would never go to reform. It will go to Restore. It will go to
Starting point is 00:34:56 restore. So it's not a split vote. Many of my followers were messaging me saying that actually they voted for reform because there was no restore candidates available. If there was, they would have voted restore. Many people held their noses and voted reform because reform were everywhere and restore weren't yet, but restore will be. So when restore runs, I reckon they'll win. They have a good chance. So there's no vote to be taken from reform. It's actually not reform's vote in the first place. Well, look, I want to bring Roger in on this, who is a reform candidate. Roger, who do you agree with on this? Actually, nobody.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I think anybody who can't see, and I've been saying this on television and radio for two years now, that the right will eat and destroy itself if this sort of behavior continues instead of accelerating and growing as it's doing, restore, I can't see how it has a chance. Look at the numbers. It's so new, as Father Calvin says, and it's so small.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I don't care how many 10 out of 10 victories it has in small, isolated places. There's no way that it is going to push aside all of the other parties and get anywhere near winning a general election. And all it is doing is splitting the vote. Lucy has said they're not splitting the vote, and reform is not a right-wing party, but she's given no justification whatsoever for those two statements. They're just ruining the party. I see it as a party founded out of the disagreement between Rupert Lowe, who is a man who's got, you know, so many things going in his favor. But I'm sorry, he's also created some things that go against him.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Restore is going to wreck it for everybody, and we are going to end up with a labor government, which we should have expected, would be even worse than the 14 years of toasted, hoary obfuscation, lies, scandals, and incompetence that we've lived with that has left us in the S-H-blank-blank-T where we are now. Okay, well, Lucy's got to have a right to respond to that, because you're making quite a major accusation
Starting point is 00:37:22 towards her, effectively saying that restore Britain supporters want a Labour government, want Bernard to come through. No, no, Dan, I didn't say, by the way, would you and Father Calvin and everybody else refer please to the Vice President as J.D. Vance, like your pants.
Starting point is 00:37:43 His name is not Vance. But we're British, okay? I know, but he's American. I'm not going to take English lessons from American, Thank you very much. I'm British as well. Oh, you've been very argumentative today, Roger. I'm sure Lucy's going to speak.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I don't want to speak for her. But I do want to say to Roger's point, look, David Bull and Richard Tice pushed the vaccine mandates. Nigel Farage said Tony Blair should be brought in to handle the vaccines in our country. Nigel Farage himself has said, look, we cannot have mass deportation. I don't want to talk about mass deportations. This is why they're not considered by those of us on the right, a right-wing party, because they're pushing centre-left lines or centrist lines.
Starting point is 00:38:24 The only big party that I can see coming up on the right is restore. That's why there's a differentiation. It's not a split vote. They're completely different politics with different policies. It's not a big party, as you've just called it. It's a tiny party. It's the far as the far as the country. They have more members already than the oldest political party in the world.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Oh, for goodness sake, it's a couple hundred thousand people, the same ones that elected Rishi Sunak, for God's sake. Okay. So maybe if I can respond. So the first thing is Restore Britain was created on 13th of February this year, and it was officially registered a month later in March this year. We already have over 130,000 members. So the reason I'd say that Reform is not a right-wing party, and here's the difference.
Starting point is 00:39:12 So Reform are happy to give you a Muslim Home Secretary candidate and a Muslim Mayor of London, whereas Restore Britain have spoken about ending the political Islamization of our country. So you can see which one is serious on that front and which one is it. Well, whoa, just a moment. Can you not distinguish between British Muslims and people who come here in small boats, unchecked, unvetted? I mean, there's nothing wrong with Muslims.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I would gladly have a Muslim mayor, a Muslim candidate. I have Muslim friends. That's why you're not. Well, you've got suicidal empathy, then I think, Roger, actually. So, yes. So that's my first point. And secondly, just to continue, Reform have former Tory ministers in their top team. You have Nadine Dorees. You have Robert Jemrick, Nadim Sahari, Sweller Braithman. Whereas Restore have actively said they will not have any former political ministers or sort of those in those parties in Restore Britain. And thirdly, Reform have actively put. foreign nationals as local council candidates who some of them were here on visas and some are
Starting point is 00:40:27 applying for indefinite leave to remain. Yet, hypocritically, reform have said that they want to abolish indefinite leave to remain, yet some of their candidates foreign nationals are applying for ILR or foreign nationals and visas, such as a band of national. So, Roger, I guess the overall criticism will not do that. And I guess the overall criticism to put to Roger and Kane, is that for those reasons that Lucy outlines, you're not really a right-wing party. I mean, in The Spectator this week, James Hill is actually boasting about how Reform UK
Starting point is 00:41:02 is going to move even further to the left in the coming months, how Nigel Farage is trying to win over the trade unions. I don't think it's wrong for Nigel to try to consolidate support when he has won such a resounding victory. in the 7th May local elections that, you know, I mean, he didn't do that before. He's doing it now. Having heard the voice of the people, I think it's quite right and quite politically, strategically sensible for him to now, you know, go and build relations with, not the enemy, but people
Starting point is 00:41:43 who would not necessarily have voted for him. I mean, you're criticizing him. it's how they criticize Trump. You know, if he found a cure for cancer, they'd still find a way to criticize him. I think Nigel's doing what anyone in his position would do. And Lucy, I don't care whether reform is seen as a right-wing party or not. I don't like labels.
Starting point is 00:42:07 There's a lot of things about reform that I'm not that crazy about, but no party is within 10,000 light years of the common sense that it seems to demonstrate every day in how they operate. All the other parties, I think, are crazy. I think that the Tories are toast. I mean, we've had 14 years of their BS, and I voted Tories for, I don't know, decades and decades. Labor has just turned out to be something of a disaster.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I'm sure they all mean well, but they're also inexperienced. They just make mistake after mistake. and you could go on and on and on. You know, Ed Davy can jump off surfboards. It all means nothing. I am behind reform because they're the only political party that has a chance of governing us. Now, Restore may be able to do something,
Starting point is 00:43:05 but they aren't going to go from, you know, zero to 60 miles an hour in this speed that they plan. We'll see, won't me? A lot of people said the same thing about Reform UK initially. It's very interesting. we will continue the debate. What I want people to realize is that, you know who won't have the debate? G.B. News. Talk TV. They're so scared of Restore Britain. They ban Restore Britain voices. They ban Rupert Lowe. If you're not scared, why not have the debate like we do on this show with voices who support restore, voices who support reform, voices who support UKIP and the Heritage Party and even the Conservatives too.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Breaking today, Rachel from accounts involved in a blockbuster blowup at a petrol station in Leeds when she came face to face with a Reform UK supporter who has just received the backing of Nigel Farage. Watch this. You are, Nigel! That case down her out. Look, England flags. You say useless. Labor parties are useless. I love our country.
Starting point is 00:44:35 And one of the things about our country is good manners, not very British. Go that man. Go that man. And you know what? I would actually argue that having manners about the total destruction of our country has to end. Okay? This British politeness is actually part of the reason why we're in the trouble we're in. Because people have been too kind. People have not called traitors like Rachel Reeves out to their face
Starting point is 00:45:07 and it's about time they start realizing how hated they are amongst patriots. Now Nigel Farage has actually weighed in. He's backing the man on Petrol Forecourt with the St George's flag writing in the past few moments, I would like to buy this man a pint. Does anyone know how I can find him? Well, let's hope he's not a member of Restore Britain. But I thought Bev Turner, the GB News presenter, made a really good point too, posting,
Starting point is 00:45:37 how did they not know that you can't put Rachel Reeves on a garage forecourt and expect her not to be heckled? Do Labor have no idea how much they are despised? They no longer appeal to anyone, even those who voted for them. And that wasn't bad manners. It was trying to be heard there is a difference. the common complaint is that they don't listen, Exhibit A. To my superstar panel, Father Calvin Robinson, it's not rudeness, is it?
Starting point is 00:46:09 To say to our leaders, you are destroying us. And this frustration, I think, actually needs to come out more and more. And it's not about safety. You know I'm against all forms of violence, Father Calvin. But if I saw a senior labor politician, would I give them a peace of my mind? Absolutely, goddam, lootly I would. Because they are screwing up this country.
Starting point is 00:46:36 And what other way do you have to make your voice heard? If he walked over to her quietly and politely, people would have brushed him off. He yelled out so that he could be heard, and he was heard. And to be fair to her, she responded. And that's probably the first engagement with the real public she's had in a long time. The Labour Party is so disconnected from what's going on on the ground.
Starting point is 00:46:56 And that frustration is coming out in people like that good old white van driver. You've got to love a white van driver. They're telling how it is. And he's right. We need more English flags up. And we need Keir Starmar gone. And she does not get the problems that are facing ordinary people in our country. I don't think he's right on the issue of getting for origin.
Starting point is 00:47:13 But he's certainly right on the issue of we need someone else to get in and get Labour out. I guess you loved the fact that this dude was a reform UK supporter Kane. I mean, it was great, wasn't it? But I think it just proves the point. that the country is with Nigel Farage and Reform UK. That is the person that the country, the average working man and woman, know they trust and they believe in.
Starting point is 00:47:37 And I think that's so important. And it was great to see someone actually standing up to these people because for far too long, they've been living in Whitehall, being insulated and being told by civil servants, don't worry, Minister, it's all okay, it's all fine. And actually, the country's burning down and they are doing it.
Starting point is 00:47:54 They are the arsonists. And thank God someone has stood up to them. And it's really great to see. Lucy White, from a Restore Britain perspective, your challenge is getting men like that to come to your party right, rather than backing Nigel Farage. I think that, as I said earlier, Restore Britain has only been around since February.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I think it's going to take time for everyone to recognise Restore Britain. but once they are aware of Restore Britain and Rupert Lowe and the policies most importantly, for example, this guy has an English flag, just like I do. Restore Britain believe that being British is linked to ancestry and heritage, rather than, you know, as Rupert says, having a piece of paper, a passport does not make you British, whereas I would argue Reform UK seem to think anyone can become British. So my message to this white band man would be, please look at Rupert Lowe and restore Britain's policies on that
Starting point is 00:48:56 because you are right, you as an English man, have your ethnic identity here, and we respect that, whereas, you know, we don't believe anyone can become British. Can I say something? Please, Roger. Yeah, as somebody who is British, I've been British for decades and also American, this magnificent island, the size of Indiana, were it limited to the restore policy of white, English, British people, we've already been reduced to almost a third world power by the combination of 14 years of the Tories plus a couple years of labor.
Starting point is 00:49:38 That would put us in the real, we go from them, as they say, in American baseball, from the minor leagues to the Little League. if you only had white British English people walking around, the idea of restricting foreign immigration and people having British passports is probably the stupidest thing I've had said by any political person in the last, I don't know how many years. That's just ridiculous. It will never happen.
Starting point is 00:50:11 It's totally self-destructive. So you think Lucy's stupid? I didn't say Lucy per se is stupid. She is simply repeating. Well, she's passionate about this. She's being one of the leaders of this. I understand. She's repeating policy.
Starting point is 00:50:24 I'm not making this personal any more than I am when Father Calvin in our last talk together on your wonderful program talked about limiting things to only white English people. You don't know how many. I didn't actually say that. White English Christian. I'm talking about Calvin. You don't know how many calls I received from followers saying, excuse me, isn't that gentleman black or mixed race?
Starting point is 00:50:53 Why is he talking about English people? So, I mean, it just... Let me answer that question, Roger. Because why you... Let me answer. Well, let Father Calvin answer, Roger. Yeah. Because I don't know what your ethnicity is, Roger.
Starting point is 00:51:04 I can't tell by looking at you and I've tried to search online. I can't find it out. You just called yourself British. You're clearly not British, right? You're born in America. I don't know what your family ethnicity is. but you are coming on television as a brown man saying that Britain must have open borders. Britain cannot restrict its borders.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Britain cannot be primarily British. Let me finish because I'll let you speak. Britain cannot be primarily British and English. You've said these things. You said these are stupid ideas. And I think that's actually who are you to tell the British people who they can and cannot let in? Who are you to tell the British people who they are as a people? Britain is a place with a people that has been around for over a thousand years.
Starting point is 00:51:41 It has a heritage, a language, a culture, and ethnicity. It is predominantly white, predominantly Christian, predominantly British and English and Scottish and Welsh and Northern Irish. And these things matter. They mean something. Now, someone can argue that you can have limited immigration. You can have a minority of people coming to live in your country. But those people do not ever become ethnically English or ethnically British. Having a British passport does not make you ethnically British. Do you have parents who, do you have grandparents who are born in Britain, who also have grandparents who are born in Britain?
Starting point is 00:52:15 I don't think you do, but you never clearly answer that question. You just come on air and tell us who we should be. And to answer the question about me, yes, I do. Half my family is ethnically English. Half my family is Afro-Caribbean. I have great, great, great, great, great, great-great-grandparents who were born on the British Isles. I have the blood and I have the claim to the soil. And I disregard anyone who claims otherwise.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Yes, but you were talking the last time about white English people. Yes. That's what I received. White English Christian people. Right. English Christian. Let me finish. My turn. White English Christian people and that's what I received calls about. Now, good. I don't think personally, Lucy, you, anybody mean, this isn't about who we are. Had I heard the words from Lucy limited or primarily, I wouldn't have said what I said. But it sounds. it very absolutist to me that only white British Christian people should have the vote and should be part of restore. And all I said last time, and all I'm going to say that, I didn't even mention
Starting point is 00:53:23 the word Christian actually. I was just saying that reform seemed to think anyone can become British. Then what I said is that Restore Britain are clear that being British more than a piece of paper. Why can't anybody who lives there for five years? become British. What are you talking about? Like, are you really asking that question? I'm asking you. Why? Well, Roger, I'll ask the question. I'll ask the question, Roger, that I always ask when people try and say this, Roger, okay? Because sometimes I think people need to have the bubble burst, the woke bubble on this burst, Roger. If I moved to Jamaica and spent five years in Jamaica, could I become Jamaican? Norman.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I don't know what the laws are there. Are you British, Dan? Yes, I am. Roger, ask the question. What are you? Can I become Jamaican? Could I run around Jamaica saying I am Jamaican? After five years.
Starting point is 00:54:20 You would call me racist, Roger. You'd call me racist. I'm not calling you racist. No, no, no, no, listen to me. If I spent five years in Jamaica and started running around the island saying I am Jamaican, you would call me racist. No, I wouldn't. Are you doing it?
Starting point is 00:54:37 Well, can I become Jamaica? I don't know the Jamaican law. I know the British law. Are you British? Of course I am. Well, I mean, so how did you become British? So you're not ethnically British? Yes, I am ethnically. I am ethnically British. My mother was born in Essex. My father was born on a British army base in Malta. I was born in New Zealand. But a hundred percent of my blood is either English or Welsh. Right. Well, I think it's important for this debate. If Roger's going to come to on here and tell British people what they need to, who they need to let in and who is British. I think it's important that Roger, that Roger's transparent and tells us what his ethnicity is. Don't put words in my mouth. I'm not telling British people anything.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Other than this, that the Restore Party, if its policy is limited to British, white Christians and you can't become British unless you have relatives from here, if an Italian person moved here, lived here for five years, applied for citizenship and granted it, he or she or they would be a British citizen, but not ethnically British. Sorry, this is Wofford. Roger, are you Jewish? Am I Jewish, yes. Okay, thank you. And?
Starting point is 00:55:56 Yeah, and also nobody at Restore Britain has ever said it's limited to white Christian people. No one's ever said that. That was said on the last show. That was the last show, but I'm on this show, and I didn't say that. What I've said is that we believe, Restore Britain policy and the members believe that to be British, it's more than having a piece of paper, more than a passport. And also, your language is essentially genocidal in the sense that you believe that the British people can just be replaced. We are a people. We are a civilisation.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Sorry, I understand that. How can you? No, because you're denying the right. What did I say that's genocidal? Because you're essentially saying, anyone can become British. How is that genocidal? Because you're having an issue.
Starting point is 00:56:43 You seem to have an issue with the native British population. And guess what? We're already on track to becoming a minority in our own homeland. And so your discussion and your talk that we need more of, you know, anyone can become British. I'm sorry, both of you. And this is the problem so far with what you've said. You both keep putting words in their mouth that I didn't say. First of all, genocide was very offensive.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Secondly, yes, we do have a problem that we are losing our British identity. But I'm not willing to take that problem to the level of Leila Cunningham shouldn't be mayor because she's Muslim originally. But she is Muslim today. And I don't want her. I'm just going to be honest, Roger. I don't want her as London mayor because I think we have an Islamist mayor of this kind. country at the moment. And given she's got this crescent moon tattoo and given a tequila is something that I really worry about, I don't want her. Kane, you think that's wrong.
Starting point is 00:57:49 I just, I haven't said much on this one. So I just wanted to really jump in, actually. I just think it's wrong to sort of judge people completely on their religion or where they're from. Exactly. I judge people on the content of their character. I think that's really important that we can continue to do that because if not, then, you know, we'll just descend into chaos. But what I will say is this is, I agree to a certain extent that there is a native British population that goes back generations. Of course it does. No, I'm not denying that. That's history. That's fact. Of course it does. But my problem with Restore's policy is I don't understand how it would work. How do you, what do you say to, do you say to certain people, do we have to all get our ancestry charts out and say, well, my granddad
Starting point is 00:58:36 landed here in, you know, 1962, and my granddad landed here in 1066. So that qualifies me. I mean, I think we can use common sense, though, can't we. I think we can use common sense. But Kane Blackwell, thank you so much. Kane is, of course, a Reform UK supporter,
Starting point is 00:58:55 but also one of the organisers of CP, which I am speaking at. Go and get your tickets today. Breaking today, unite the kingdom star and close friend. an ally of Tommy Robinson, Minister Ricky Doolan, is suing Pierce Morgan, after the unscensored host used an AI fake to slander the pastor's musical performance in another bid to weaken the force of what has been an incredible UTK movement now backed by US Vice President J.D. Vance. Pastor Ricky Doolin joins us to exclusively reveal his plans.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I want to show you how Pear's dishonestly tried to frame things. Watch. Finally, Tommy Robinson and me agree about something, cutting that monstrosity off before it could finish. And to be fair to him, he has united the kingdom in condemning what we just heard as possibly, and I speak as a former judge on Britain's Got Talent, the least talented singing we've ever heard on these aisles. But that wasn't how the performance sounded at all. It was soon revealed that left-wing agiturates. alter what we heard they're using AI, with Patriots on the ground being able to provide evidence that was not the same performance they heard. Let's take a listen. Sounded bloody beautiful to me. So no wonder Minister Ricky Doolin is heading back at Pearz, publicly messaging him right then.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I need a public retraction and apology, Pearz Morgan. Otherwise, you're hearing from my lawyer. You have used AI doctored video clips on your show and called me a monstriac. and referred to my singing as the least talented singing we've heard on these aisles due to fake videos. Someone with AI put my voice out of tune. I'm a professional singer with two albums and millions of streams online. What you have done is defamation and misrepresentation of my profession to millions of people. Your researchers did a job and a half. He went on this as a pitch tracker showing the AI version of the clip that Pears used and the real one of me singing. The AI put me out of tune and Pears Morgan and his team, bought it, like medium fries and a big Mac, probably in Pierce's case, large fries I'd imagine.
Starting point is 01:02:05 How stupid and unprofessional can you be? Piers Morgan wanted a war, though. He said, which one's the fake? Thar both diabolical. I need a public apology from you for the damage your dreadful, tuneless wailing inflicted on my ears. And now the MSM is weighing in. with a close friend of Pearz Morgan, a lawyer, appearing on the Jeremy Vine show, to further smear Ricky Doolin. Watch. Well, you're a lawyer. Would he win that case, so defamation? Well, can I start off by saying I'm not a defamation lawyer, just to like to protect myself there? I mean, what harm has he suffered? He's singing at a Unite Britain.
Starting point is 01:03:00 a protest march. I'm sure just standing on that stage is enough to cause harm to his professional and I'm just so sick of that type of approach from the MSM. So is Tommy Robinson, by the way. He's now owning this line, get Islam out of politics. And he said there is absolutely no shame in all it's saying. It's not racist. It's not hateful.
Starting point is 01:03:26 It's just common sense. And he has described an actually illustrated, Piers Morgan as an absolute sausage. You could add to the list of Patriots that Piers has attempted to smear Kelly J Keene suggesting that her speech was comparable to Jew hate. Watch. For speakers and performers at the pro-Palestine rally have made similar speeches about Jews that have been arrested amid a national outcry and for the record they would have deserved it. So Ricky Doolin joins me exclusively now alongside the superstar panel, Calvin Robinson, Lucy White, and Dr. Roger Giewold.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Now, Ricky, this really shocked me the entire hit piece by Pierce Morgan because the whole thing was set up to try and make Tommy Robinson supporters look insane. But the fact that he is actually using AI-altered audio of you is quite something. and you are now determined to take legal action. Yeah, well, we all know Piers Morgan has got Tommy Robinson derangement syndrome. So, you know, the lengths he'll go to to try and discredit Tommy, to try and discredit United the Kingdom. We can't really be surprised about.
Starting point is 01:04:59 But obviously, we could expect or try to expect a little bit of journalistic integrity. But I suppose with the track record of Piers, we shouldn't really expect any of that. It didn't come as a surprise, but still, you know, there are rules, there are laws, and certainly defamation is something that's taken seriously. And so you will sue if he doesn't publicly retract his comments or apologize to you. Well, right now I'm in talks with my lawyers. I have been since yesterday, and we're looking at the way forward.
Starting point is 01:05:36 I mean, as a Christian, I forgive peers for the defamation and I appreciate. for his soul. But, you know, on a legal point of view, there is more to look into on that. The thing that is so interesting is that when he had Don Keith on his show, the same episode, he did a gotcha on Don Keith, who had incorrectly posted a video which he had claimed was in the United Kingdom, was actually in Pakistan. But Don Keith held his hands up. And he just said, I'm sorry, I made a mistake. I deleted it. But Pears, seems to be such an egomaniac that he just cannot admit when he's got something wrong. I mean, the irony that it was on exactly the same show that he called out Don and Don
Starting point is 01:06:25 like a gentleman, like a man, put his hands up. Yeah, like you said. And Pierce should do exactly the same thing. I mean, to be honest, like nobody really wants to go into legal battles and all of the energy and time and resources that are required to do it. But it's a simple principle. And even to come out and just publicly say, we got that wrong. This was an AI video. We didn't know whatever.
Starting point is 01:06:50 But instead, I'm sure it's because it's connected to Tommy and he's got the derangement syndrome that he's refusing to back down from it. But obviously, as somebody who is a singer, as somebody who's in the public eye, you know, it's to be defamed in that way, you know, an out of tune video. And to be honest with you, Dan, we saw it, me and my wife,
Starting point is 01:07:12 we saw it on Sunday morning, we were preparing for church. We saw that video, and there's another one that Owen Jones used, where they're both clips from the United Kingdom and the voices put out of tune to obviously defame the United Kingdom. And me and my wife laughed, Dan. It was funny. I'm not somebody that is like, uber sensitive or a snowflake to kind of online trolling. It was funny.
Starting point is 01:07:36 but when it's being used out of context of humor and it's being passed off. On a news show. On a news show. And a big platform. It's 4 million subscribers. And I mean, I was that's a lot of people. Absolutely. I was at the last United the Kingdom Rally standing behind the stage. And you sounded incredible, Ricky. And your singers sounded absolutely on point. So I was very shocked when I saw the video to begin with.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And I thought, oh, maybe there was a tech issue. or something, because it can be really difficult when you're doing those big events. But the fact that it was this type of left-wing sabotage, that's how I will explain it, I think is so terrible. And Pearce needs to actually realize he is on the wrong side of history with this one. And trying to do down patriots like he did on that episode is just completely and utterly disgusting. I want to bring my superstar panel in on this, Roger Giewald, Father Calvin Robinson, and Lucy White. of Restore Britain. Lucy Piers got this one so wrong.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Why doesn't he just hold his hands up and apologize rather than face a legal battle versus Minister Ricky Dolan? And by the way, Ricky, I think you would have a huge success crowdfunding this case. I mean, I would be putting money in. I think a lot of people would support raising. Because you know, you've got to raise about £250,000 for a defamation case like this.
Starting point is 01:09:02 But I honestly think you could do it, right, in a day. because I'd put money and I'm sure a lot of people would. Lucy, why does Pearce not just apologise? He got this one catastrophically wrong. Well, yeah, absolutely. He should apologise what he did to you was unacceptable. I think he's got a lot of things wrong, such as sort of, you know, claiming that
Starting point is 01:09:23 because he loves Indian food, it means we can have, you know, unlimited mass migration as well. Because he wants a chicken, take him a salar, and he doesn't mind if the racists like us, are out of the country. Exactly. So what I would say to Pears is that he's done himself so much discredit recently that this is just another piece of his discredit that I wouldn't be surprised if he starts to lose his audience because he's projecting himself to be someone who is no longer credible. Roger, where do you stand on Peers, Morgan? Because Reform UK has been a little bit lukewarm on Tommy Robinson, to say the least. Well, I'm not Luke warm on Tommy.
Starting point is 01:10:06 I support Tommy. I didn't go to last. I went to the earlier rally in March, and I was actually right near you at the stage. And I think that Lucy is right. I think Pierce has lost a bit of his allure. And I mean, he definitely should apologize. And if he doesn't, I'm not clear whether you actually will sue him or not.
Starting point is 01:10:41 You weren't that definitive about what you just said. But I mean, that's up to you. But you're certainly right that he was wrong and should apologize formally. I mean, Ricky, are your lawyers considering sending a pre-action letter to pairs? Yeah, that's the next step. And they were just waiting for me to decide, really. and I'm still praying about it and I'm taking my time. I don't have to rush into it.
Starting point is 01:11:06 But it is certainly an option on the table right now. Now, Father Calvin, we were off last week, of course, and I wanted to ask you about a little back and forth. I don't know if you'd go as far to call it a row that you're having with Tommy overunite the kingdom and specifically the Zionist influence on the event. you spoke about this and then Tommy hit back in a video. Have you sort of been turned off, Unite the Kingdom, or what's going on between you two?
Starting point is 01:11:40 No, nothing's going on. I was talking to Tommy this morning. We're still friends. I'll be chatting with him tomorrow about Islam. We're both speaking at the Oxford Union at the end of this month. But my point was very clear that I was saying my problem with the Unite the Kingdom event, which I've been quite involved in from the beginning, was that it's great, it gets people together, it's camaraderie,
Starting point is 01:11:58 but what next? My question was, what happens next? And I was having a conversation with someone else who said, well, it feels like a pressure valve because people get everything off the chest. And then they go back to work and nothing ever evolves. And I was like, yeah, I kind of get that. And I had a conversation about, you know, the fact that it should be united, the kingdom should have British flags, which are all Christian flags. It shouldn't have Israeli flags because it's not an Israeli event. And I've said this in the meetings and it's been taken on board. And I was giving credit where credit is due that were Judeo-Christian Christian was removed and the flags for the most part were removed and that's a good thing. Like people can support the Ukraine, people support Russia, people support Israel or Iran as much
Starting point is 01:12:37 as they want. But unite the kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland should be British, first and foremost. That was my whole point. Roger, as it, do you have a problem with that? I just wonder why Calvin didn't mention that there were probably more Iranian flags than Israeli flags there. They were this time. I just said that you can support Iran or Israel if you want. You did, no, no, you talked about Israeli flags.
Starting point is 01:13:03 You didn't mention that there were as many or more Iranian flags there. I mean, well, there shouldn't be Iranian flags either if that makes you happy. There should be no Iranian flags, not a single one. It's a question for the organizers. They either want to limit it to British and no foreign flags or they don't. Yeah, it doesn't bother me either way. But that's my point. It does bother me.
Starting point is 01:13:24 And I had this conversation with the organizers. Lucy, you want to come in? Yes, I just want to support Father Robinson here, essentially that I completely agree this is a Unite the Kingdom rally. There should just be British flags, or well, English, Irish, Welsh, etc. flags, but there shouldn't be foreign flags. And this goes into my argument. And again, I'm a Restore Britain member. So this is just my perspective as an individual, not official policy. I would say that the fact that there were lots of foreign flags there are. comes into the sense of lots of other nationalities are trying to hijack what it means to be British. I think this is a day for the British, we shouldn't be having foreign flags. I can't disagree with that.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Okay. Well, I want to ask Ricky Doolin about that actually because, Ricky, you have been at the heart of Unite the Kingdom. Tommy likes the fact that there's an international flavour to these events. So who's right on this? I think everybody can have the own opinion, of course. but I think the vast majority of flags as your pictures just showed where the British flags or you know English Irish Scottish and Welsh and you know a
Starting point is 01:14:39 sprinkle of other flags doesn't really bother me I think we have a lot of support from people from from other backgrounds and you know unite the kingdoms ethos is not like deport every single person who's not British or I think you've got to understand some people are going to also want to represent their heritage where they've came from. And I think as long as it is not something that is too
Starting point is 01:15:07 overpowering, like if you go on a left wing match or all you're going to get is Palestine flags, if it's not something like that, I don't think it's a problem. The other moment... To be fair to Pierce Morgan, this is a part that he was right on. Don't get me wrong, Pierce Morgan is a snake with no principles and will say whatever he thinks he needs to say to get the views. But where he was
Starting point is 01:15:23 right is where he said, Kelly, what's the name, Kelly J. Key. Kelly J. Key. Kelly J. Keene, if she was saying what she said about Islam, if she was saying that about Israel or Judaism, she'll be arrested. He was spot on with that. But that's the problem, those dual standards. We should be able to say, I don't like Islam. I think it's a dangerous ideology. I don't want it in my country. We should also be able to say, I don't like Judaism. I think it's a dangerous ideology. I don't want in my country. If you can say one of those things, but not the other, there's a problem with two-tier systems. Well, the argument against this. And I mean, I absolutely believe that you should be able to criticize all religions. I mean, everyone knows that. The argument that is made against that, Roger, bring you in on this, is that you've got an ethnicity with Jewish people. Is that how you view it? You don't view it simply as a religion. You view being Jewish as an ethnicity. Yeah, there is an ethnicity to it as opposed to some other religions.
Starting point is 01:16:20 That's correct, yeah. Father Calvin? Well, you could say about Israel, then, which isn't an ethnicity. You can say, I don't think my country should be supporting Israel, which is a foreign country with foreign interests. And you would still face the same anti-Semitic claims from that. This is the collation of ancestry, ethnicity, and religion are by design to stop people, to censor people from criticizing. Please stop telling me, as you do continually, what I would say when I haven't said it. I mean, I haven't said anything what you would say.
Starting point is 01:16:49 I've said there would be claims of anti-Semitism. I think also that. In response to what Ricky said, nobody has mentioned. I think it's Tommy's call also. It's his event. And if he said, I don't want any foreign flags there, that would be fine. I think Tommy would be the first to say it's the British people's event, actually. And he is the figurehead of it.
Starting point is 01:17:14 And there are many other figureheads involved. Ricky is one of them. But it's not Tommy's event. And so it is important that these conversations are had. And if it's to unite the kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, then those are the people who should be represented. presented. To have lots of foreign flags, and Ricky's right, it is about proportionality. The first event was almost 50-50, Union flag and Israel flag. But after this conversation that we had,
Starting point is 01:17:34 post that first event, it's been much more British flags. And so proportionality is important. But also stage representation. You know, there's a lot of international people speaking. And at some point, we have to say, look, the British people need to be speaking about what's going to happen in Britain, because Britain is crumbling. And it's nice to have foreign support. Good. But there has to be predominantly British people. So, Ricky, I want to give you the final word to Pierce Morgan directly. He'll be watching this.
Starting point is 01:18:03 What would you say to him? I would say just have a little bit of integrity. It doesn't have to be something that blows up further than this. Really just have some integrity, have some heart and soul. You know it was AI. Whether you knew it was AI or not beforehand, I don't know. You might just have bad producers that don't.
Starting point is 01:18:25 don't do their research properly. But at least, and now it's very clear that it's AI, and you made some harsh comments based on that AI. Just be honest, own up, hold your hands up, be a man, and just tell the truth. Ricky Doolan, thank you so much. Very, very good to have you on the show today. Breaking today, Susanna Reid and Woke ITV's Good Morning Britain accused of a sex cover-up involving one of its presenters or former presenters by a GB News star.
Starting point is 01:19:08 This is a very complicated and dark story. It's been completely ignored by the mainstream media. So I want to take you through what's happened. This morning on the ITV breakfast show, Susanna Reid sat down with Carrie Johnson. Carrie is the wife of the former Prime Minister Boris Johnson, but also a victim of the black cab rapist John Warboys. And she gave her first broadcast interview to Susanna, which as you can imagine sparked a lot of attention. But after Good Morning Britain posted the first clips of that interview on air, Benjamin Butterworth, who many of you will know as one of the leftist regulars on G.B. News. He was a regular on my former, there he is, on my former show on GB News, but he also has hosted the Saturday 5 on GB News and being a regular across the
Starting point is 01:20:07 media on everything from Jeremy Vine to Good Morning Britain to the Sly News paper review, went public with a bombshell claim. He replied to Good Morning Britain and Susanna. Good Morning Britain did nothing after being told it employed a man who solicited explicit photos of a teenage child, who he then threatened, and who molested another on-air talent. Susanna Reid celebrated that man after ITV was told. I invite you to sue me for this post. When you were told privately, repeatedly of concerns, you were silent and kept him on air. It's not going away. And there is no way Good Morning Britain did not know of this man's history of abuse.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Everyone knows. I am sick of people coming to me and telling their stories of him molesting them. Stories going back 25 years from men ranging from 17 to their 50s and still. no action taken. And for everyone's information, ITV was invited to speak to more of this man's victims. ITV refused to speak to them. Sartey then asked Benjamin directly, is there a police investigation to which he replied yes, prompting Kelly J Keane to thank him? He then added, if you realize who this man is and have your own experience of him, my DMs are open. Others, many now, have reached out before and there are met officers, barristers and solicitors
Starting point is 01:21:56 working on this case. You are safe coming forward. He then posted a picture of himself and added me feeling cute and going about my life happily, while people paid five. five times my salary will be calling me a little shit and spending yet more time working how to stop me rather than deal with the pervert himself. Hello. Now you'll know previously here on outspoken, we have reported on the fact that the G.B. News presenter and star daily mail columnist Andrew Pearce was removed from Good Morning Britain. I have no idea if these two situations are linked. But given we have reported on that before,
Starting point is 01:22:48 I thought it was worth mentioning for full transparency. To my superstar panel, Roger Giewald, Lucy White and Father Calvin Robinson. Now, Father, obviously, you had a lot of on-screen battles with Benjamin Butterworth. But put politics to one side, Father, the Calvin, he seems to be suggesting there has been some type of serious cover-up going on here by ITV and Good Morning Britain, and that Susanna Reid is aware of it. And it's like, have no lessons been learned by the mainstream media after all of these sex scandals at both the British Bashing Corporation and woke ITV?
Starting point is 01:23:33 This is atrocious. So Benjamin Bottleworth's moral values are so low. So if he's morally outraged by something, we should probably pay some attention to it. And what he's saying here is serious and important. If people are being affected in this way and it's being covered up, then it needs to be addressed by all of these outlets. And I'm absolutely on his side with this and back him entirely. Lucy White, what do you make of it?
Starting point is 01:23:56 I mean, Susanna Reid should really say something now, shouldn't she? I just think those in these positions have a role of accountability to play to the British public. And if they're not willing to do that, then perhaps they're not in the right role. Roger Giewel, what do you make of this? Do you think these cover-ups are still going on in the mainstream media today? Oh, I think they're going on all over. Yeah, absolutely. And I agree with what Lucy just said.
Starting point is 01:24:27 They need to, as they say, reconsider their position if that's the way they're going to play these things. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this, story develops and I just try and be as transparent as possible. That's always my view on things. I want to get to today's other big news breaking right now, the jury in the retrial of two brothers accused of assaulting and armed police officer at Manchester Airport have been discharged after they failed to reach verdicts. Muhammad Fahir Amaz, 21, and Muhammad Ahmad 26, were both on trial accused of assaulting PC Zachary Marsden. They denied the single charge and claimed they were acting in self-defense.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Mr Amars was previously convicted of assaulting two police officers and a member of the public in the same incident. Trial jurors heard. Mr Amars and Mr Amard were accused. of assaulting P.C. Marsden, occasioning him actual bodily harm. But on Wednesday, jurors said they could not agree on any verdicts in respect of either of the defendants after deliberating for around 19 hours and 48 minutes and after being told they could reach majority verdicts. Prosecutors asked the judge for time to consider their position and to decide whether they will seek another retrial, a further hearing has been scheduled for May the 29th.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Now, I'm obviously just getting this information in, but Father Calvin Robinson, this feels like a total outrage for me. I mean, we've all seen that footage. We've all seen that footage of those brothers and the injuries that they unleashed on those police officers. and the problem is, Father Calvin, what we don't know
Starting point is 01:26:41 is what was the makeup of the jury? You know, how many Muslim men and women were on that jury, for example? And I know the mainstream media won't ask that question, but I will, because for the jury to not be able to come to a verdict on this, we've seen the video. You know, it's, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:00 It's a very good and very important question. The jury of a trial in Great Britain should be predominantly British people. In fact, it should be entirely British people, I would say predominantly white. And at the very least, we should be told because you know in America, Father Calvin, you're told the makeup of the jury because it matters. How many black people?
Starting point is 01:27:15 How many white people? How many women? How many men? We don't know. We're not told. 20 hours of deliberation. Like something's going on there. Is it a case of we've got some suicidal empathy liberals who say,
Starting point is 01:27:28 no, we can't find Mohammed and Mohammed guilty of being violent because that all stir up racial tensions? Or is it that the jury is made up of Mohammedans themselves, which should never be the case in our country? in a Christian legal system, we should never have Mohammedans on the jury. We need to know the makeup of the jury, but also we need to know what it is they're considering. Why is it taken 20 hours to deliberate? Where was the line? What were they arguing over?
Starting point is 01:27:51 Because we've seen the evidence for ourselves. We can all see it with our own eyes. And so it would gather that one plus one equals two, like evidence of a crime and the jury should find him guilty of the crime and he should be sentenced for the crime. It's absurd that hasn't happened. Justice is not being delivered here. No, it really hasn't because. You'll remember, Roger, that Ahmed Yakub, the Islamist lawyer who was campaigned in Birmingham,
Starting point is 01:28:14 he initially represented these two brothers. And you remember, he tried to claim that they were the victims to begin with Roger and that they had suffered brain injuries. And at that point, we hadn't actually seen the CCTV footage. And everyone was on the side of the brother. I mean, it's been a crazy case. Yeah, it's a very crazy case. And it's difficult to know what happened in situations like this,
Starting point is 01:28:43 because just like Ricky's AI, you don't know what was edited in producing that clip that we saw. So we weren't there. We don't really know what happened. We don't know who was on the jury. It's impossible to speculate. It looks like it should be an outrage. But the tragedy is that we can't be sure. of what actually happened and therefore what it really is all about.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Yeah, I mean, I always think, Lucy, there are cover-ups in these cases because, of course, then we're still told even now, oh, well, there might be a retrial so you're risking contempt of court if you talk about it. Of course, you know, as we saw in the mainstream media, they first showed the police attacking these two men, when actually, I think if I'm correct, they provoke the policemen and attack them first. So again, that's how the mainstream media will manipulate the truth. I also think that there is an element of two-tier justice here, because had this been two white British men, I'm sure they would have been found guilty straight away.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Oh, come on. They would have thrown away the keys. They would have locked them up and thrown away the keys. There would have been protests on the streets. I mean, no, very, very good point. This is absolutely an example of two-tier justice. I believe that. I will keep looking into this case.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Of course, I will look, do so. I'm not so sure that we've seen enough to be certain of that. Oh, I'm very sure, Roger. I'm very sure. But look, we will keep across this. You are right. We will keep across this. It is it on.
Starting point is 01:30:23 We can simplify our legal system. Both Mohammedans should be sent back to Pakistan. Well, on that note, on that note, let me get to the feedback before we reveal today's greatest Britain Union Jackass. Harass 247, thank you for the super chat. says there's a difference between members and voters. You don't have to join to vote. Stop looking at the memberships. Restore Britain has my vote. Gary JG 772 says David Lammy always comes across as the kind of bloke who's always hovering over the buffet, waiting for it to open at a party. Tim OGB says, where is the full force of the law with the airport thugs who attacked armed police officers breaking a female police officers knows.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Juliet Johnson says what J.D. Vance said about UT Can Tommy must be infuriating to Tommy haters like Stama, Farage and Pears. And the Eiffraera 9850 says most other countries, this is how the law works. Citizenship doesn't automatically confirm nationality or ethnicity. And that's the point, isn't it? Citizenship is different. British citizenship is a totally different thing to British nationality or British ethnicity. And that should be very obvious. There's no argument about that.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Well, there is. There absolutely is an argument about that. Ethnicity doesn't vote. Citizenship votes. That's the whole point. Well, I think we've proven today there is an argument about it. But look, let's take a look at our nominees for Greatest Britain Union. Jack has the worst Britain in the world today.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Lucy White nominated to Dean Dorries for trying to repeal the Online Safety Act, even though she pushed the Act through Parliament. Father Calvin went for Syrackeir Stam for being humiliated by J.D. Vance. And Minister Ricky Doolin, who was here earlier, went for Owen Jones for using these AI fakes of his performance. Okay, the results are in. I'm excited about this with five. percent of the vote, Nadine Doris.
Starting point is 01:32:08 With 11% of the vote, Owen Jones. But Father Calvin Robinson is the big winner today. 85% of you saying Sir Keir Stama is the worst Britain in the world today. And Roger, your nominating our greatest Britain today. Who have you gone for? I've gone for Prince William, who announced that over the next decade, he will sell off royal properties to raise many hundreds of millions of pounds and put it into communities and housing,
Starting point is 01:32:44 which I think is a really wonderful thing. Brilliant choice, great choice. Dr. Roger Giewald, thank you so much for being here. Lucy White of Restore Britain. Thank you so much for being here. Father Calvin Robinson. Thank you so much for being here. Brilliant superstar panel today.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Thank you, too. to Ricky Doolin and Cain Blackwell as well. Now we're heading over to Substack now for the Royal Uncanceled After Show, according to Taz standing by, she has a big revelation actually. Big revelation about this Megan Mark will be a plain stunt. You're not going to want to miss this. So come and join us at www.
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