Dan Wootton Outspoken - STARMER’S DERANGED MARCH TO RUSSIAN WAR GOES ON AS MSM LIE ABOUT NIGEL FARAGE & JD VANCE

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

Go to https://ground.news/outspoken to see through media bias and stay fully informed. Subscribe through my link for 40% off unlimited access this month. Slippery Starmer’s deranged march to war with Russia – aided and abetted by the political establishment and mainstream media– continues at pace. The Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch has launched a stupid attack on Donald Trump as he withdraws aid to Ukraine to force a peace deal, while usually sane voices in the MSM are now openly lying about the Vice President JD Vance. The analysis you won’t get from the uniparty or legacy media in Dan’s Digest. Then Michael Heaver – the former Brexit Party MEP, long-time adviser to Nigel Farage and now the man behind independent sensation Heaver News – joins Outspoken for the first time. PLUS: Can the right ever unite, as Reform UK’s former Deputy Leader Ben Habib and the party’s chief whip Lee Anderson step up an astonishing feud? AND: What is the best strategy for Farage amidst this growing backlash over his sensible position on Ukraine and is Jon Sopel right that it could scupper his march to Number 10? THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Dan has given up over four hours of his life watching With Love, Meghan, which he says is the worst TV series ever made. We have an incomparable line-up to reveal the truth behind Meg’s latest tissue of lies… -Our Royal Mastermind Angela Levin -Author, counsellor and Meghan’s estranged sister Samantha Markle -Royal YouTube sensation P-Dina -And joining Outspoken for the first time Nancy and Stephanie Sidley of Twin Talks, they are the Sidley Twins Sign up to watch at www.outspoken.live. Dan Wootton Outspoken is fan funded through monthly and one-time donations: https://www.outspoken.live ---------- Join Dan's Substack community: https://www.danwoottonoutspoken.com ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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no sugar added neutral refreshingly simple no spin no bias no censorship i. I'm Dan Wooten. This is Outspoken Live, episode number 175. And breaking right now, he's done it again. Zelensky just capitulated to Donald Trump because of the US president's tough negotiating position, making peace far more likely, which makes slippery stammers deranged march to war with Russia, aided and abetted by the political establishment and mainstream media, even more insane. The Conservative leader, Kemi Badenoch, launched a stupid attack on Trump as he withdrew aid to Ukraine to force a peace deal, while usually sane voices in the MSM are now openly lying about the Vice President, J.D. Vance. Wow. A vice president who is as dumb as he's aggressive.

That takes some doing because, Mr. Vice President, that's some random country that's not fought a war. That would be the United Kingdom, who stood alongside your troops in Iraq, not once but twice, and in Afghanistan. No, no, no, no, no. He wasn't referring to us. But what is in it for these warmongering Labour clowns? Well, Starmer, back in first place in the polls. I hope that answers your question. The analysis you won't get from the Uniparty or Legacy Media next

in my digest. Then Michael Heaver, the former Brexit Party MEP, long-time advisor to Nigel Farage, and now the man behind the independent sensation Heaver News, joins Outspoken for the first time. Also coming up on the show today, can the right ever unite as Reform UK's former deputy leader Ben Habib and the party's chief whip, Lee Anderson, step up an astonishing feud? I'll tell you who called who. A pathetic little man who should shut up. And what is the best strategy for Farage amidst this growing backlash over his, I think, very sensible position on Ukraine. Is John Sobel of the fake news agents right that it could actually scupper his march to number 10 Downing Street? Then we have a very special uncancelled after show today.

Let me tell you about it. It will stream as normal on Substack at www.outspoken.live. But because it is a special day for Royal Watches, we're also going to premiere it live on YouTube at 6.30pm. Because let me tell you, I've given up over four hours of my life from the very early hours of this morning watching With Love, Megan. And trust me, this is the worst TV series ever made. But what's very exciting is we have put together an incomparable lineup to reveal the truth behind Meg's latest Netflix tissue of lies. Our royal mastermind, Angela Levin, Megan's estranged sister, Samantha Markle, who has big news, royal YouTube sensation, P.D.

And joining outspoken for the very first time, Nancy and Stephanie Sidley of Twin Talks, the Sidley twins. As I say, if you're a royal watcher, the whole idea behind this, right, is we want to make sure that you don't have to watch Netflix because it's so bad. So we're just going to tell you all about it, give you all the best and worst moments.

So join us live on YouTube, 6.30pm for that. But of course, I still want you to sign up for my sub stack too, www.outspoken.live. Before the end of the show, we will also reveal today's Greatest Britain and Union Jackass. Union Jackass is chosen by you. You can vote in the live chat on YouTube right now, but let me tell you your nominees today. Mark Rowley, the Met Police chair, boss, sorry, nominated by It's Only Me, 44. And that's for putting a public order act for Tuesday's, well, today's rally farmer, farm rally, forbidding anyone from bringing their tractors into central London. Shame on him. That

means farmers could face arrest if they block the roads during this protest over the inheritance tax raid. Nominee two from Gav Foster 2 on X, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, for his globe-trotting exploits and expenses, which came in at over £180,000. And nominee three, sadly, we don't know the name of this person yet. I hope someone's going to be able to find out because this has absolutely horrified me overnight. It's the Westfield Morons, nominated by IanDraper34, who says, they could have hit a child when throwing a footstool over the balcony at Westfield. These people must be stopped. And as I say, just just watch this.

Look, look how close it came to disaster. Go, go, go. There's nowhere this guy's doing. Oh, no. What the fuck is this? Cody, Cody. Cody. I mean, sickos. Absolute sickos. And this is the type of behaviour, by the way,

becoming commonplace in Sadiq Khan's London. Anyway, get voting. Get voting. And I'll bring you the Union jackass and Greatest Britain at the end of the show. But now, let's go. All of those simpering so-called conservative politicians and members of the mainstream media who have spent days attempting to denigrate Donald Trump's negotiating strategy, including pausing aid to try and bring peace to Ukraine and Russia. They owe the US president an apology this evening because Ukraine's corrupt president,

Zelensky, who clearly sees benefit in a forever war, has just agreed to come back to the negotiating table because, let's be honest, otherwise he'd be out of a job. He's posted on X, our meeting in Washington at the White House on Friday did not go the way it was supposed to be. It is regrettable that it happened this way. It is time to make things right. We would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive. Now that's Zelensky, by the way, trying to get ahead of Trump's major address to Congress tonight in the early hours of the morning in the UK, where he has promised to tell it like it is. Here's the thing, despite what you might be hearing in the mainstream media, Trump wants peace. I mean, I want peace. I've wanted

peace in this conflict for years because the bloodshed, the hundreds of thousands of pointless deaths, the destruction of a great country, it must stop. But I do question if that is what Zelensky wants, and slippery Starmer too, who sees a war and a chance to play global statesman as an opportunity to improve his diapole ratings. Today, J.D. Vance once again told it like it is. And again, do not believe the MSM lies about the Vice President's bombshell interview with Sean Hannity. I want you to watch this key exchange for yourself. And here's the thing, you know, when you would talk to the Biden administration officials in private, it's another example of a terrible situation that Biden admin left the Trump administration. When you ask them, what's the plan? OK, we're going to spend tens of

billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars in Ukraine. What is your plan? And they would honestly tell you, well, we're just going to send them weapons for as long as we can and hope eventually they can turn the tide. Hope is not a strategy. Throwing money and ammunition at a terrible conflict, that is not a strategy. The only guy in town with a strategy is the president of the United States, and everybody needs to follow his lead. What scares me is Zelensky, when he says it's going to go on for years, how many more lives are going to be lost? He's not going to have a country to save. The minerals deal would have provided the monies to rebuild their country

and a strong U.S. presence and maybe European troops as well. And this is an important part of it. The president knows that, look, if you want real security guarantees, if you want to actually ensure that Vladimir Putin does not invade Ukraine again, the very best security guarantee is to give Americans economic upside in the future of Ukraine. That is a way better security guarantee than 20,000 troops from some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30 or 40 years. The security guarantee and also the economic guarantee for Ukraine is to rebuild the country and ensure that America has a long term interest. You're not going to do that if you come to the Oval Office, insult the president and refuse to follow his plan for peace. Now that 30 to 40 year line sparked absolute hysteria from the British mainstream media, including outlets like The Sun and LBC,

who should know better. Look at this response from Nick Ferrari. Wow, a vice president who is as dumb as he's aggressive. That takes some doing because, Mr Vice President, that's some random country that's not fought a war. That would be the United Kingdom, who stood alongside your troops in Iraq, not once but twice, and in Afghanistan. The problem is that hysterical reaction was absurdly dishonest, as Vance himself confirmed today, posting on X, I don't even mention the UK or France in the clip, both of whom have fought

bravely alongside the US over the last 20 years and beyond. But the UK's warmongering political establishment and MSM purposefully misinterpreted his comments to pursue a deranged agenda. I do really believe that because even the Tory leader, Kemi Vandenhout, got in on the act, saying the news overnight that America is halting military aid to Ukraine is profoundly worrying. It is clear that Britain and Europe must re-arm much faster if we want to provide Ukraine with more than just warm words of support. We must work to keep America in and Russia out. And things got even more bonkers. Look at this from one of Kemi's Tory tribe. The MP Graham Stewart posted, we have to consider the possibility that President Trump is a Russian asset. If so, Trump's acquisition is the crowning achievement of Putin's career,

and Europe is on its own. That madness prompted Reform UK's Rupert Lowe to respond, this is exactly what you expect to read from some loony FBPE account, not an actual conservative MP. Unhelpful and will achieve nothing. A very stupid post. Although not quite as stupid as Labour MP Josh Fenton-Glynn, who deleted a post on X describing reform leader Nigel Farage as the MP for Stalingrad North. Now, that rhetoric is not only dangerous, it's completely ill-informed. And we must be able to have a discussion about why the hell Starmer is proposing sending boots on the ground and planes in the air to Ukraine when we cannot even protect our own borders. 600 illegals flooded in in the invasion yesterday, and that's only the ones that the government tells us about probably many many thousands more we've also got to have this conversation

when our allies like georgia maloney the very sound italian prime minister has ruled out such a proposal calling it a very difficult thing to implement and saying she is not sure about its effectiveness so the uk's political and media class, I believe, are getting this whole situation badly wrong. It feels like Brexit. It feels like COVID. It feels like lockdowns. It feels like vaccine hysteria all over again. And as Politico reported this morning, there is another motivation for Starmer. They said it points to a potential rally around the flag effect as the majority of MPs unite in supporting efforts to broker peace in Ukraine. And sure enough, today's new YouGov poll has Labour creeping back into first place.

Although, as the Mercian puts it, all the slander and uniparty attacks from all three sides and yet Reform UK has still not lost support. The growth will continue as the MSM does not have the effect they once did. The best they got didn't cause a scratch. And look, I hope the Mercian is right. But I still feel the MSM is completely distorting the truth here to try and encourage ongoing warfare, as well as finishing Nigel Farage off. That's like the bonus prize. That's the cherry on top. And we've got to listen to people we respect like Elon Musk, who said, Zelensky wants a forever war, a never-ending graft meat grinder. This is evil. And there are

some sensible people in the MSM here, like Mike Graham and Kevin O'Sullivan on Talk. Kevin posted, same old voices. You're all going to die of COVID unless we lock down forever. Same old voices. The war in Ukraine must go on, forget forever. He says we won't get fooled again. And maybe sense will prevail if the public are listened to, if we make our voice heard. Look at this YouTube poll, which I've been conducting on my account over the past 24 hours. It's had a massive 60,000 votes. And I asked who you trust most to bring peace to Ukraine. It isn't even close. 89% say Donald Trump, Stama just 4% of the vote, even lagging behind Emmanuel Macron. So this media narrative of Starmer as the hero is bullshit. It is Trump who will stop the bloodshed.

And Zelensky's climb down this afternoon already proves his strategy is right. Now, the uncancelled interview. And I'm delighted to welcome for the first time on Outspoken, a man who knows all about dealing with the dishonest mainstream media. Michael Heaver was a close advisor to Nigel Farage during his time in UKIP. He then became a Brexit Party MEP, now the man behind the independent news sensation Hever News on Substack and YouTube. that's a very separate one. But what's your response to this breaking news that Zelensky does appear to have capitulated to Trump this afternoon, despite everyone in the UK MSM saying Trump's strategy was completely wrong? Well, Dan, first of all, it's great to join you here on the show. I don't do too many mainstream media interviews nowadays, and they've certainly stopped asking me because fundamentally, I think this is the future platforms like this.

I've got Heven News, my sub stack, I've got my YouTube channel. So I'm delighted to join you because I really think, as you saw in the recent US election, you know, independent media really is the future. People have had enough being talked down to and dictated to. And I think it's a really exciting time, a time to be optimistic about media, the media landscape in our country. So I just wanted to get that out of the way. No, I totally agree. And I love what you're doing. And it's so great to have you here, because I think we all do have to support each other. And actually, the narratives that we've seen, I think, over the last 24 hours, 48 hours in the UK compared to the US shows why it's so important we have a thriving independent media. Absolutely. And yeah, I mean, this Zelensky statement shows you something

that we've seen time and time again with Trump. And I have to say, more generally now, just in my general life, I try and spend as little time on social media as I can. Obviously, I do a lot of things on YouTube and a bit on Substack and things like that but the problem nowadays i think is people are losing all sense of perspective in terms of their these constant knee-jerk reactions to every single thing that gets put forward so the jd vance interview he has clearly stated um what he meant by that he didn didn't mean the UK or France. When you look at this Zelensky statement, what you're seeing here now, not on a one or two day basis, but on a general trend, on a general direction, once again, is that Trump's approach is moving us, hopefully, towards a peace deal. And I just remind people, because it is very easy to criticise, where was the peace deal? Where was the prospect of any

peace whatsoever, even any sign of a plan under Joe Biden? Frankly, there wasn't one. It was going to be endless war. There was no end in sight whatsoever. And what Trump is doing is what he always has done. It's at times harsh. It's constantly unpredictable. It's in the end about getting a deal done, a deal the Ukraine can sign off on to try and stop this war. Totally, totally. And Zelensky isn't Mr. Perfect, right? And I think that is one of the problems here, Michael, that Zelensky is protected as a hero. Putin is presented as a evil dictator. By the way, I'm no supporter of Putin. I've been very clear on that for a very long time. But I do think there is far, far more nuance in terms of the betrayal of Zelensky.

For example, by the way, just last week in the Oval Office meeting, Zelensky actually goes in and calls J.D. Vance a bitch F-word under his breath. Now, there's video to prove this. We'll have a look at it in just just one second but the point is imagine if trump or or vance had said something like that but given it's zelensky saying it the media just ignore it watch this i have been to come one i have actually i've actually watched and seen the stories and i know what happens is you bring people you bring them on a propaganda tour who come one i've actually i've

actually watched and seen the stories and i know what happens is you bring people you bring them on a propaganda tour mr and i mean it's quite an extraordinary moment, number one, isn't it? But do you see what I mean about the way the MSM is going with this very, very dishonest narrative? And actually, we saw it with the J.D. Vance interview too, because you've got people I think who should know better, like Nick Ferrari and The Sun, assuming that Vance was talking about the UK and France when the vice president has said

he absolutely wasn't? Well, look, I think Zelensky deserves respect. I think equally that Trump and J.D. Vance, not only did they want respect, they demanded respect in that, you know, that sit down that was a complete disaster. I think that could have easily been avoided, by the way. Why that wasn't done behind closed doors, I'm not quite sure. But look, the bigger picture is here. Trump is trying to get a deal done. Zelensky today with that statement hopefully means that any ill feeling can be moved past because, again, in the bigger picture, this peace deal is extremely important. I mean, you've seen our own prime minister and some of the pretty horrific things senior Labour figures have said

about Trump in the past. They're now having to sort of eat some humble pie because they recognise fundamentally, and again, not day to day, not this comment, not that comment, this has to be done with US backing, US support. I think it's been described as a lasting US backstop. That is the reality. And so, you know, I hope now with Zelensky with that statement, it can move things forward again now. And I'll say it again, you know, Trump is a deal maker. And at times, you know, even in our own families and our own relationships, sometimes you do have to clear the air. Sometimes there can be arguments, things said that aren't particularly nice. But at the end of the day, sometimes you have desperately joining the political class to try and paint

Nigel Farage as a Putin stooge in the latest example of the Russia hoax. Let me show you some of the madness that is going on. John Sopel of the fake news agents who posted on X, Nigel Farage, well, this was in response, sorry, to the mail headline, Nigel Farage blames Zelensky for Trump now saying Ukraine leader overplayed his hand and failed to respect the president by not wearing a suit. Sopel writes, wonder what that will do for reform poll numbers. And the Lib Dems went even more crazier, posting on X, Farage has stuck to his guns today, unapologetically pro-Putin, pro-Musk and pro-Trump. He's certainly not pro-Britain, no matter what reform says. He's a plastic patriot.

Now, of course, Nigel's actions have been patriotic. Indeed, I think he's supporting Starmer far too much. But look at what he wrote this morning. The breakdown in talks and aides between the US and Ukraine only helps Putin. I hope that Keir Starmer can use his new role to bring the two together and soon. So this narrative that is forming has very much been designed to try and damage Reform UK and Nigel Farage in the polls, given that a similar sort of Russia hoax before the last election was believed to have harmed Reform's final vote. And you see it yesterday in Parliament, when Nigel asks a completely sensible, sound and actually really important question to Starmer, given that there's no opposition whatsoever coming from the uni party and the prime minister responds not with a proper answer, but with a smear. Watch. President Zelensky has now accepted that he's going to sign the minerals agreement with America.

And America's going to put in a hundred billion or whatever it is, and thousands of Americans will be in Ukraine. Is that of itself enough of a security guarantee? No. Or does it mean that we need to send British troops and if we do given the size of our army how many? The mineral deal

is not enough on its own but can I just remind him Russia is the aggressor Zelensky is a war leader whose country has been invaded. And we should all be supporting him and not fawning over Putin. The independent journalist Darren Grimes responded to that, writing, Nigel Farage stood up in the House of Commons yesterday to ask how many British troops will be promised to Ukraine. A reasonable question. He was dismissed as being a Putin

apologist by both conservatives and Labour. The Uni Party are still two cheeks of the same ugly old arse. 600 migrants crossed the English Channel yesterday. The media and politicians want to talk about war alongside Ukraine instead. We focus on defending Kiev whilst allowing the invasion of Kent to take place. This matters way more to us. Michael Hever was, of course, a senior advisor to Nigel Farage for many years, then became a Brexit party MEP alongside him. So you know all about Michael from personal experience, the types of deranged attacks that are targeted and levelled at Nigel Farage, very often to try and stop his march in the polls. But given you know the man so well,

what do you make of these claims and this narrative being spread that he is some type of poodle to Putin? Well, let's be absolutely clear here. What you're seeing in the House of Commons and the psychology of it is quite fascinating, actually. Labour MPs, of course, winning many, many seats on a relatively low vote share, you know, a third of the votes, two thirds of the seats. They are panicking, right? They are panicking. They know that at the moment, many of them, many of them will lose their seats at the next election, many of them to reform. And it's really interesting to see now when Nigel rises in Parliament has something to say. The noise that you hear from the government benches, from the Labour benches, shows you the fear that is in the air from them. So all that people are going to see over the next few years until the next general election, it's very clear

there's been lots of briefings about it. There's you know labor mps are forming a anti-reform group and you've seen labor ads going up in reform colors and all this stuff they've worked out their attack lines this will be one of them as you pointed out the question that nigel asked personally you know perfectly uh reasonable very sensible very important um but the attack line that you saw there as long, as well as sort of rubbish about, oh, reform, want to do this with the NHS, all that, more lies from Labour that you'll hear. These have been worked out now to try and dent reform's polling figures. Now, as you point out, that's all very well. They have to do that because essentially Labour and the government are reduced

to attempting to distract from what they're actually delivering which is a continuation of the Conservative legacy it's high immigration it's weak borders it's high taxes despite all of the pledges before the general election that is what you're now seeing delivered from Labour. And you can expect more of the same. And frankly, look, Nigel has been around long enough. He will take these attacks from Labour in a way as a compliment. After all, they are worried. They are very deeply worried because reform are clearly now the opposition to Labour. And that is why you're now going to see Labour MPs, as I say, and some of them are doing it already, losing their minds on social media. They are going to see Labour MPs, as I say, and some of them are doing it already, losing their minds on social media. They are going to be obsessed with trying to dent reform. So expect the attacks, by the way. We're only just getting warmed up here. The attacks from Labour on reform

and on Nigel are going to get even more deranged, unhinged and desperate the closer we get to the next general election. Yeah, totally, completely. I mean, do you have concerns that reform's poll rating is being hit by this Russia hoax? You, Gov, saw no drop for reform, but did see a boost for Labour, meaning that they are now ahead again. Yeah, I just did also see, and I just posted on my channel on youtube download there was another there was another poll done by freshwater strategy now that was like a monthly poll that's been done and that actually has

reform up five labor down five conservatives down five lib dems up. So I think the broad trend, there may be a point or two here, the broad trend is clearly still reform on top. And I just want people to consider the fact of what a massive shift that is since the general election. I mean, that is a remarkable rise. It's astonishing. It's a remarkable rise for reform, you know, and so-called experts and commentators not long ago would have said, oh, no, you know, support for a Nigel Farage reform party. Well, it won't be above 20 percent or then it won't be above 25 percent. I won't go above 30 percent. And every single time I suspect they'll be proven absolutely wrong. It's a shame that we've had so many local elections due to take place in England on the 1st of May cancelled at a couple of months notice. And I have to say, I think that is highly dubious and pretty disgraceful, really.

But you're still going to see a lot of elections in England taking place on the 1st of May. And I think you're really going to see for the first time that growing reform support reflected at the ballot box. And as I said, we're just getting warmed up here. It's very clear to me Labour now see Nigel Farage as the leader of the opposition. That is where they are directing their firepower. Yes, I know the Conservatives will get desperate at some stage. They'll probably have another change of leader

and make all sorts of promises last minute like they always do. But the real battle here that you're going to see is Labour trying to discredit Nigel Farage. And the challenge for Nigel Farage and reform is to say, look, we're not just a party that wants to be in opposition. We actually want to be in government. And there are some amazing synergies, of course, going on with the US administration. And I think rather than being afraid of that, actually, Nigel can lean into it. So, for example, on the issue of free speech, which is absolutely a key plank for Nigel. And we've also seen brilliant rhetoric from Rupert Lowe and Ann Widdicombe, other major reform figures on this area. And last night, we saw J.D. Vance, the US Vice President, write,

shutting down free speech will destroy our civilization. America and Europe can take on outside threats as long as we are strong internally, and I will continue to fight for safety and security as long as I'm in office. And Elon Musk actually reposted that with a couple of American flags. Then J.D. Vance sat down with Sean Hannity on Fox News, and I would argue made a direct criticism of Slippery Starmer, of the lack of free speech in the UK, which, let's just be honest, Starmer lied about in the Oval Office, given that we currently have grandmothers languishing in prison for two years because of posts on Facebook or X. And this is what he had to say. We have to ask ourselves the questions as leaders.

Are we willing to defend people even if we disagree with what they say? If you're not willing to do that, I don't think you're fit to lead Europe or the United States. If you're running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you. Exactly right. Set it at the same. That's exactly right. There's nothing that we can do for you if you're terrified of your own people. And Sean, you see this every single day. What are some of the biggest drivers of violence in these European societies? It's mass migration. It's people who haven't assimilated into European societies, who are driving cars into Christmas festivals, killing tons and tons of innocent people. And very often the European response to that is not to say, oh, well, maybe

we should get control of our own borders. The response is to try to silence and shut down their own citizenry. That is a danger in Europe. It was a danger under Joe Biden in the United States of America. And look, of course, China is a major threat. It's a major competitor over the next few years, over the next few decades. But I have no doubt that America and Europe could take on whatever threats so long as we're strong internally. That's the biggest risk to our civilization. It's that weakness internally. That's what we have to fix. I mean, I couldn't agree more with him. And it's so aligned with Nigel. I mean, what Nigel has done previously as well in terms of America,

he made the offer to help the then conservative government in terms of reaching out and doing what was in the national interest because Nigel is at heart as I am a patriot and that becomes that comes before anything else and and he's done the same actually with Labour he's offered that can I help with the relationship between our countries because it is so important now what I noticed with J.D. Vance's recent speech that was dismissed in terms of the state of free speech in Europe, there was a lot of emotional reactions to it, not much actually tackling the issues that he raised. But let's just analyse the evidence. We touched on the fact that we've seen elections cancelled at short notice in England. We see in Romania, the frontrunner to that election, that was cancelled, the second round was cancelled. Still unclear whether the

rerun of that election will allow that candidate to stand or not. And on top of that, I don't know if you've heard about this one, but in France, we've just seen the C8 broadcast channel, a channel viewed as one on the right politically, shut down. So, you know, there is an increasing body of evidence that when you contrast the direction of free speech that the Americans want to have and what's going on in Europe. There's a bit of a contrast. Indeed, because we've seen it here, haven't we, with the off communists effectively trying to strangle GB News, really, so that it can't be the free speech channel. Yeah, and I mean, the regulation in areas like that, the way that everything is now moving with independent media, I think, as I said, is hugely exciting. I will always be an optimist. And I think the emergence of channels like this,

channels like mine, many, many others, you know, that gives me hope because it gives you that leverage moving forward to always know that these voices can't be shut down and dismissed. And that actually we live in a time where the amount of information out there is astonishing. You know, if you want to go and become an expert about any subject or politics in any country, you only have to go on YouTube or wherever online. You can read articles from the left, from the right, disagreeing. This is something I do for my YouTube channel because I cover a lot of European politics. But the amount of the wealth of information out there now that can be translated via various apps, etc, at the click of a button, I find this all enormously exciting. And the more that authorities try and shut down free speech,

the bigger the backlash. And as I said, with what the Americans are saying now, with what the Trump administration are saying now, I think a gulf is going to open up between the European Union and America and the opportunity for us. And we are in a unique position. We've seen that in terms of the negotiations over this peace deal. The big opportunity for us as Brexit UK is to not be tied into an increasingly over-regulated European Union. It's to make our own decisions. And at the ballot box, we decide whether we approve of what the government have done or not. Indeed. Indeed. shut up, you pathetic little man.

Wow. Things just got heated in the growing civil war that has, I guess, taken over parts of the right after Nigel Farage's brutal sacking of the former Reform UK deputy leader, Ben Habib. It was Lee Anderson, Reform's attack dog and chief whip, who decided to throw that insult at Habib after he criticised him for plagiarising a post on X. When that happened, and I should point out, Lee Anderson did plagiarise the post from my friend Bernie Spofforth Artemis is now but he insists that he did not know about it he was sent this information and he wanted to share it and he has now

acknowledged that it wasn't his own information and he has revealed that it did come from Bernie. But before that happened, Ben Habib posted on X, does Reform UK endorse plagiarism? Things go from bad to worse, so much for integrity. That prompted Lee Anderson to reply, shut up, you pathetic little man. I was sent a cut and pasted version of the text from a friend who also received it from a friend. I had no idea who the author was, but I liked what I read, so I shared it. You really are scraping the barrel with your pathetic attempts to smear us. Just go away. You're boring.

P.S. I want to thank the original author of the post. It's great and well written. But you know what, Ben? There are more important things to talk about at the moment than someone's post on here. You need to go and see someone. Well, Michael Hever, former Brexit Party MEP, who was a colleague of Ben Habib in the European Parliament. What's your response to Lee Anderson now calling Ben, who I think is a great man, calling him pathetic and telling him to shut up? Well, look, I like both of these guys. I know, as you said, I served with Ben as a Brexit MEP.

And, you know, I sort of think these sort of social media spats don't leave anyone looking too good, to be honest. What I would say is, you know, Lee Anderson certainly deserves a lot of respect. Here's a guy who, unlike a lot of other Conservative MPs at the time who were thinking about it, toying with the idea. He actually had the bottle to join reform, then subsequently increased his vote share in his constituency in Ashfield as a reform MP this time. And, you know, this sort of needling on social media, I just don't think is great. What I would say, though, is increasingly we are seeing some criticism. People on the right, some of them I've seen criticising Nigel or Reform or Lee Anderson or whatever. Here is the reality. Reform is the party that is going to challenge Labour at the next election. Whether people like it or not, you know, putting digs in or criticising what the party is doing, at a time where you've seen Nigel Farage increase as leader the support for the party by a remarkable amount, I mean,

I really don't think that's looking at the bigger picture here. As I said, I like Ben. I know him. Lee Anderson. As I said, I respect him a lot for what he's done. And I just think this sort of stuff, I mean, it's not covering yourself in glory. Do you think that there was a better way to handle Ben Habib's brutal sacking from Reform UK? Because I guess the one thing where that the one area, I guess, where I might disagree with you on this, Michael, is that if you don't treat folk with respect after they've put in the hard yards and a lot of service, unfortunately, this is what sometimes leads to this type of bitterness. Now, I think Ben Habib is a great man.

He has so much to offer. He's now the chairman of the Great British Pack. The whole idea behind that is actually uniting the right. And was it really necessary for Nigel to get the champagne out and effectively celebrate having firstly sacked Ben Habib as leader and then sparking his departure from the party? Well, I don't know the ins and outs of it, Dan, but what I do know is that moving forward, I believe the party at the top level wanted to have people who were elected as MPs.

That makes sense. I don't know how things were handled internally, to be honest. I'm just saying, look at the bigger picture, which is, look, we may have individual disagreements with people or the way things are handled in terms of personal relationships or roles or whatever. The fact is reform has seen a staggering increase in support in recent months, whatever way that you try and look at it. So that sort of indicates the leadership. And, you know, politics can be a brutal business. I've seen it many times over the years. I've seen people fall out and then make up. You know, you've got to take a longer view sometimes of these things. The broader picture is reform. reform very much, in my

opinion, is moving in the right direction and voters seem to agree. And the challenge for reform is to keep up that momentum. Do you understand why Nigel Farage has been really tough on people who he doesn't want to be part of the party, people who don't pass these very stringent vetting procedures. And I guess the two most famous examples, and I'd actually like you to comment on both of them separately, actually, but the two most famous examples are Katie Hopkins, who has said she'd love to run to be a Reform UK MP. She wants to support the party, but she thinks she's been cast out, that they are not interested in her because her brand is too toxic, I guess, or that's what they would argue. And then the other is a guy who has said he actually doesn't want to be part

of the party at all, Tommy Robinson. Well, no, I think Nigel's leadership on this has been absolutely correct. I mean, I've seen it time and time again over the years. I mean, I remember back in the day when UKIP were on the rise and you actually saw stories on local council candidates who said something stupid. Now, there had never been that level of scrutiny on local council candidates before, and that ended up hurting the party. So the vetting procedure, the professionalism now that's been brought in with reform, I think is the right way forward,

because this isn't a party that's looking to get 15% of the vote. This isn't a party that's looking to appeal to 20% of the electorate. This is a party, from everything I've been hearing, I'm not intimately involved in the workings of reform, I do know that the level of professionalism now, the level of resources, the figures that you've now got in key positions in the party are gearing this party up 100% to be in government after the next general election. I'll say it again. People can criticise. People can say Nigel's made wrong decisions here and there. Look at the poll ratings. Look at the amount of support. Look at the local council by-election results. The party recently, I think, won 54% of the vote, a majority of the vote for the first

time in a local council by-election. Everything indicates the party is getting this spot on and it's readying itself not to be in opposition after the next election to govern. Yeah, and I mean, it is worth just taking another look at that poll that you referred to earlier. Freshwater strategies reform up 5%, 27%, Labour down 5% to 24%, the Conservatives down 5% to 23%.

And David Atherton's take is that it seems Nigel Farage's support for Donald Trump in getting peace to Ukraine has done no harm. They are up five points as Labour and Tories fade. Do you think there's a possibility that Starmer has the strategy wrong on Ukraine, that in fact, people are more with Nigel than maybe the polls make out? Because there is always that virtue signalling thing, that sometimes mean people won't tell the truth to pollsters. But when folk really think about, do we want to keep committing blank check after blank check to Ukraine, which is literally what Rachel from Accounts did at the weekend,

they have second thoughts. What I've learned in politics over the years, Dan, is that the electorate are a lot more sophisticated, right, than many give credit for. People do not fit into cookie-cutter little moulds, right? People have different views on things, which, of course, you want in a democracy. And also, there's an element of this.

People can disagree with a certain party stance on one issue, but actually, if they agree with them more on three or four other issues that they also think are important then they tend to sway in that direction so i would hesitate to to say at this stage that a single defining issue right now is actually going to define everything moving forward in a momentum i think what the electorate are looking at right now from all the research that i've looked at and and gone through for my channel is that they're comparing kia starmer as prime minister not the fluffy promises that we got before the election but what starmer is doing

in office and indeed what rachel reeves is doing as chancellor which has been a complete and total catastrophe and they are saying to themselves right in four years am i really confident in kemi bagnock as prime minister i don't think i am i don't think i like what i'm seeing from the conservatives who are refusing to commit to any sort of policy commitments whatsoever and the real danger for both Labour and the Conservatives, again, in all the research I'm now looking at, is that the public are viewing Nigel now differently. Right. They're not just viewing him as an opposition as an opposition figure. They're viewing him as a potential prime minister. And I'll tell you this. They will not outwork Nigel. And Nigel has been around a while in terms of politics now.

He knows what he's doing. The people around him are a very serious team indeed. And I think, I seriously think that the Conservatives, the trouble that they've got ahead is going to be massive because I think they're going to be increasingly coming in as the third party in all the national polls. I think when you start to see election results play out as well, that will be repeated.

And the question then is, for a lot of people who are true blue Conservatives who just go and vote Conservative every time just to stop Labour, that sort of very negative vote, are they seriously going to go and vote for the party in third place next time around? Very good point and i mean look at this uh even today from uh reform uk young reformers leafleting and i think that's really interesting as well isn't it can faraj really boost a genzy appeal which he certainly seems to be doing so what is the path what is the path the big question is what is the path for nigel Farage to enter number 10

Downing Street? Much more from Michael Heaver on that in just one minute. First, though, the reason you're watching this show is because it's increasingly difficult, let's be honest, to trust mainstream media or the so-called fact checkers who claim to determine which facts are true. And there's a good reason for that, given the debate over free speech, the controversy surrounding Brexit, and how Trump and other politicians challenging the status quo are portrayed. But I have the solution. It's called Ground News, and it's the best way to stay informed and cut through media bias and narratives so you can get the facts for yourself. Go to ground.news.com to check it out. But I want to show you this incredible website and app in action. So let's look at that recent game-changing speech by J.D.

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How can Nigel Farage enter number 10 Downing Street? Is this a realistic possibility, given that we've already seen the entire political establishment, the entire elite class, not to mention the biased and corrupt mainstream media do everything possible to stop the guy getting there. Well, someone who knows Nigel Farage better than most is his former advisor during the UKIP years, then fellow Brexit party MEP, now independent news maven Michael Hever. Michael, Nigel Farage, can he really be prime minister? Does he have the character to stand up against these forces? And let's be honest, there are dark and evil forces who will do anything to stop that from happening, just like they did anything to stop Brexit from happening and very nearly succeeded, as you well know.

Well, look, if a few hundred MPs in the House of Commons think they're going to shout down Nigel, then they've clearly not been paying attention because Nigel has been doing this for a long time now. You saw his speeches in the European Parliament that regularly went viral and he defied the entire EU establishment and proved them wrong that indeed Brexit would happen, did happen, is happening, and we're not going back in. In terms of reforming government, I actually think that the path forward in terms of a reform government, number one, is continuing to make clear that reform have a team. And I think you'll see that more and more over the next few years. We've got years till the next general election but you know in terms of the chairman of the party, the treasurer of the party,

you are seeing a team being built and a very competent team at that and then I think what reform need to do in terms of their offering at the next general election is say look we know for years and years and years now you've had Labour and Conservative vague promises and they never deliver. What a reform government needs to do is say, look, we're going to level with you. We can't do everything in one term. We are going to make five or six fundamental, specific policies that we are actually going to deliver. One of them could be leaving the ECHR. One of them could be specific policy pledges on cutting taxes, how much and when by. One of them could be a rapid expansion of prison places that, in my opinion, we need badly. And one of them could be an intention

in terms of when legal migration will actually be cut by and by when. I think people have had enough of sort of vague platitudes that we get of these empty speeches of vague promises that people know are never going to happen. I mean, look at Rishi Sunak, for goodness sake, standing behind a stop the boats, you know, sign his speech and never come in close to delivering it. So I think what reform need to do is make specific pledges, be very clear on how they're going to deliver, when they're going to deliver and kind of in the mode that Trump is doing. The message then can be promise made, promise kept, because whether you like him or loathe him, that is what you're seeing

from Trump in America right now. What he pledged to do is what he's carrying out. And it'll be then for the American people to decide the outcome, whether they approve or not, but they are getting effectively what they voted for. Are we getting full fat Farage at the moment, Michael? Now, what I mean by that is you'll know that there's quite a lot of criticism from folk on the right who think that he's trying to water down his policies a little bit to make himself more palatable to the establishment, the mainstream media, the centre ground, you know, floating Tory voters. I give you, for example, mass deportations. Nigel's saying that's not possible, even though Trump has made it an absolute central part of his plan.

Or, for example, the refusal to talk about the changing demography in the UK and being very clear that it's going to be necessary to secure a big Muslim vote. Do you have any concerns about that? And are we seeing full fat Farage at the moment? Dan, I've known Nigel for a long time. His principles do not change. What I'm seeing at the moment is, and you're right, there is some criticism from people on the right. What I'd ask them is, how many elections have they stood in? How many election campaigns have they been involved in? What is their plan? Are they going to set up a party or are they just going to criticise from the sidelines? And I have

to say, when you look at the figures, I think, was it reform get at the general election? Was it 13, 14, 15%, something like that? So you're going from July 2024, the mid-teens, into the late 20s in terms of public support. If people out there seriously think they can build a coalition of support ready for government better than Nigel, let's see him do it. It's not that easy. No, it absolutely isn't. And I have to be honest, Michael, see, it's not totally easy being in a position like the one that we're in because I describe myself as a critical friend to Reform UK. I've been very, very honest about that. Like you, I was a colleague of Nigel Farage. I worked with him for close to three years at GB News. We had a great relationship. I was the first

person to put him on the channel on launch night and he came on my show every week, every single week, until I was sacked, no matter where he was. So I have huge respect to Nigel. We spoke a lot. actually sycophantic and just go along with every Reform UK policy, because there is going to have to be some shifting of the Overton window, I believe, to move Reform UK where we need to be to actually make the type of dramatic proper change like we're seeing in the US under Donald Trump. And that does take a bit of time. It does take a bit of pressure. And for example, again, I know a lot of people disagree with me on this, but that's why I actually wanted Robert Jenrick to become leader of the Conservative Party. It's not that I

trust the Conservative Party. I didn't vote for the Conservative Party at the last election. I've been very open about the fact that I voted for Reform UK, but it's because I think it would just shift the discussion to the right, which is where I think we need to be on issues like immigration. Well, first of all, I think Robert Jenrick will be the next Conservative leader going into the general election anyway. Big time. I don't think Hemi Bagnock's got a hope in hell of leading the Tories into the next election. No way. And in terms of, look, I hear what you're saying about reform. I personally don't think it's a criticism that's valid. If you just look at, for instance,

reform's pledge on migration at the last election, Dan, it was net zero migration. Now to go from the close to a million net that the Tories accelerated to and just completely lost their marbles, in my opinion, to net zero. That is radical. To completely dismantle the net zero consensus in Westminster that Labour, Conservative, Lib Dem are all part of. That is pretty radical as well. And what you have to do, I think, to be credible is not to simply say things because you know it may play well. It's actually reform have to stick to their guns. Nigel has to say what he thinks needs to be done in terms of governing

and not just for clicks on social media. So I think the criticism comes when you're being successful. And I think, as I said, whether it's from Labour or the Conservatives or elsewhere, you're going to see increasing criticism of Nigel and reform. That's inevitable. That's what you've got to take and put up with and respond to when you are in line, as things stand, potentially to form the next government and be the next prime minister.

What do you make of the recruitment of celebrity candidates, Michael? So we saw it just then. Luke Campbell, the boxer, is going to run for Reform UK as the candidate for mayor in Hull and East Yorkshire. they don't necessarily have a strong political philosophy. But for Reform UK's perspective, actually, it helps in a way that they don't have someone who offends archaeology can be conducted and they can go through years and years and years of posts on X to find something a little bit unsavoury. Although it was funny with Luke Campbell,bell actually someone found a post of him on x-right using the term gay which they claimed was done in some sort of uh negative manner it absolutely wasn't uh and the reform uk spokesperson was able to say uh well here's luke campbell

posting naked on the cover of gay times so i think trying to say he's a homophobe is a bit ludicrous. But you know what I mean? Do you support this idea of celebrity candidates? Or does that risk sort of getting a whole load of people who aren't necessarily going to have the experience that you need to make actual political change? Well, because I'm not on the left, I actually judge people on an individual basis, not as a collective. I know for someone on the left, they won't understand that. But I think it's perfectly valid to criticise a so-called celebrity candidate if it's someone that comes across as vacuous, just doing it for the publicity or whatever. With Luke Campbell, though, you've got someone, a gold medalist, someone that isn't trying to be on a national level. He's actually, you know, standing to be a mayor for the area that he grew up in and wants to represent the community that he's from. And I think that's very admirable, actually. I think increasingly with social media, what we're seeing nowadays,

and maybe this goes back to some of the criticism that you get on the sidelines, is there's a lot of people who seem to have big ideas about what should or shouldn't shouldn't being done but why aren't they putting themselves forward so someone like luke hamill doesn't have to do it uh he will of course take some hate for it particularly given he's a high profile candidate i think he has a pretty good chance of winning actually um so for me it comes down to the individual and i think he spoke very very well at that conference of course he's going to be put to the individual. And I think he spoke very, very well at that conference. Of course, he's going to be put to the test. I'm sure he's going to be in some hustings and debates and they're on up to the election. So that will put him through his paces. But I think what reform are trying to do is not celebrity candidates.

I think what it's about is showing that there's a breadth of talent, that there's people with all sorts of backgrounds putting themselves forward. It isn't just people coming straight out of university into a research office, becoming an MP. And I think that's admirable. We need more of it. Michael, you've spent a lot of time with Nigel, right? You were with him on the night of the Brexit referendum result. You've campaigned with him. You've been on the road with him. You've worked with him. What is the biggest misconception that the public have about Nigel Farage? I don't necessarily think enough it's the public, but in sort of the media, sometimes they try and knock on Nigel and say that he's hard to get on with and he falls out with people. My experience of the man has always been he's hard to get on with and he falls out with people my experience

of the man has always been that people tended to get involved in politics and want to use sometimes um them use the situation as a a way to boost their own profile and I think that doesn't go down very well actually I think Nigel's a very nice, loyal guy. I've always got along with him really, really well. And I think that's probably the biggest misconception that he's hard to get on with. Of course, he's very strong minded. A lot of us in the political field are. But he listens.

I found him easy to get on with. The one thing I would say as well is extremely hard worker. And I think he's going to now there's this now there's this context that potentially when you say Nigel Farage and reform could win the next election, you can have Farage in Downing Street, that that no longer sounds that far fetched. I can tell you now, Dan, he's only going to work harder. Yeah. And it is interesting, isn't it, that he has some type of pull with young people, and especially young men, right, Michael? And he's obviously had lots of criticism in the mainstream media because he was asked about Andrew Tate, and this is before he had really re-entered the political fray. And so when he was a commentator on GB News, he was able to say, well, he knows that Andrew Tate has massive resonance amongst young men. Now, that wasn't an endorsement of Andrew Tate, but he was making the point that young men are lacking in role models. And there's

something about that demographic, isn't it, that is very attracted to Nigel? I think, yeah, I mean, again, I've been looking at some of the research that I have to say I think some of the gender split stuff is becoming a bit of a mainstream media narrative now I'm not saying that reform generally don't do better with men but the difference isn't that stark in some of the research I think that kind of thing's been put forward that it's you know lots and lots of young men switching to reform, but hardly any females. I don't think that's quite true. What I would say is, I'm not sure if I'd describe myself as a young man anymore, but I certainly think the way nowadays that lads are spoken down to, told they have to change their behaviour, the term toxic masculinity and all this,

I think is very, very damaging. Of course, we need young men in our country to have manners and respect. And I very much try and apply that to my own behaviour in terms of what some people call an old school mentality. But that to me is just manners. It's part of being an Englishman. But certainly the way that young men nowadays have been told that they shouldn't go out and have fun, all the rest of it, I think, is complete and utter nonsense. At the same time, the Internet inevitably is throwing up some, I think, quite damaging discourse. And I think spending too much time on social media rather than going outside, exercising, spending time with family and friends, I don't think that's

good for young men. And I do think you're seeing that in some cases now, young men having some quite extreme views quite early, which is concerning. It's interesting you talk about that thing of being an English gentleman, right? And I wanted to show you an interview that Nigel gave to Nick Ferrari on LBC earlier in the week. And it was around this whole issue of whether Vladimir Zelensky was right not to wear a suit and tie to the Oval Office. And of course, it would have been very easy for Nigel to give the answer that every other mainstream politician in the UK is giving, which is that of course, it's fine for him to wear that. But Nigel didn't because he knows that that type of formality really matters.

And it especially really matters to Nigel Farage. Watch this and I'll get your reaction off the back. A journalist asked him why he's not wearing a suit. Well, do you know what? Do you know what? If I turned up at the White House, I'd make sure I was wearing a suit. Well, do you know what? Do you know what? If I turned up at the White House, I'd make sure I was wearing a suit, my shoes were cleaned, absolutely.

And Trump is... In diplomacy, our Prime Minister... Winston Churchill... Our Prime Minister... Nigel Farage... Our Prime Minister... Our Prime Minister... But he wasn't dealing with President Trump.

Our Prime Minister was briefed and briefed and briefed as to how to deal with the visit to the White House. But that's not Zelensky's fault, is it? Alright, if Zelensky wants to bowl in and show no respect to a man who we all know is incredibly old-fashioned about this stuff, and he really is.

When you say this stuff, you mean manners, dress, shoes? Very much so. So your shoes have to be shined, like being back at school? Lots of times. Trump said, yeah, good shoes, great shoes. You know, whatever. That's how he... So if you're going in with a positive mindset, maybe Zelensky should have thought about that.

But that's minor. That's minor. So you are critical of him wearing his battle fatigues, effectively. I think there are times to wear it and there are times not to, perhaps. Interesting, isn't it? I think the outlook there that Nigel described as trump is actually quite similar to nigel himself in that uh and it's dying out in some ways isn't it but it's about uh and i think zelensky is a different case because obviously the situation in ukraine

um but just generally in terms of uh what you wear and how you come across wearing a suit, looking smart when you can in certain situations, that's probably an outlook. Again, some would describe it as old school that Nigel probably shares with Trump. Yeah, I know. I'm sure that Nigel would probably be horrified by both of our attire today yeah and and turning up late that's a bad one yes yes turning up like being prompt and on time is very very important yeah in a tie in a tie but we're in the independent media space so we don't have to do that right but Michael Hever such a pleasure to have you on Outspoken for the first time please come back soon hever.news is where you can sign up on substack and of course subscribe to michael's channel on youtube as well such a pleasure to have you here today thank you

michael cheers now lots of comments coming on from you not surprising on the breaking news that we kicked the show off on which is of course the fact that zielinski has capitulated and everyone's saying that trump's strategy on this is the wrong one, I think are barking up the wrong tree. Scotty John said 10,000 North Koreans lasted a month. Lol, I'd give our underfunded military six months. And I think that's actually a really good point as well. How on earth are we even thinking about sending boots on the ground when we can't protect our own borders? Nigel Parkett wrote Farage should stay strong and support Trump. Carolyn Haig posted

Trump and Vance are correct. And on the right side of history, I watched the Vance interview. He was absolutely spot on. Rick Shaw writes, Starmer worries me far more than Putin does. And Martin Scott says the Oval Office debacle was discussed and agreed behind closed doors. Zelensky changed tactics in public. From Deborah Greening, regarding Stama's comments about the minerals not being enough, the mineral deal, it shows his ignorance. It's very expensive to extract these particular minerals. More of his flimflam. And CCC said, I'm more concerned about the UK and Starmer allowing the Islamification of it. And again, so much of this is about distraction, isn't it? So much is about distraction. As Luke Jones says, I don't see why Starmer gave £2.6 billion to

Ukraine if there is a peace deal coming. How can he keep writing a blank check from that? That's my words. Hybo62 said, Vance is being honest about this country, meaning the UK. We are a disgrace to the world, the state we have become. Nigel, grow a pair and work with the USA. Really, really interesting stuff. Let's get to our Greatest Britain and Union jackass. Now, a reminder of today's nominees, nominated by At It's Only Me 44, Mark Rowley, for putting a public order act for today's farmer rally, forbidding anyone with tractors in central London. Threatened them with arrest too.

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tractor arrest threat. Today's Greatest Britain has been nominated by at EvieGirl18, and it's our very own June Slater, who she says must be working as many hours a day as Trump to research and share her findings on a subject on which she didn't used to comment. And I have to say, June is doing absolutely absolutely stellar work on this whole Russia-Ukraine story. Now, we have a very exciting, uncancelled after show today. Look at this lineup. It's absolutely amazing. We have all spent over four hours today, from the very early hours of the morning, watching With Love, Megan. And trust me, it is the worst TV series ever made. So my incomparable lineup is going to be here to reveal the truth behind Meg's latest tissue of lies. We've got our Royal Mastermind Angela Levin, Megan's estranged sister, Samantha Markle,

Royal YouTube sensation P. Dina, and joining outspoken for the first time, Nancy and Stephanie Sidley of Twin Talks, the Sidley twins. So usually the show, the after show will only be live on Substack, www.outspoken.live. Please do subscribe there. It means UK time, 1.30pm Eastern time, I think 10.30am Pacific time, we will be premiering this very special episode on YouTube. So you just need to stay on this page and then you will be redirected to the video, which is coming in just 15 minutes time. I promise you, you don't want to miss this one. And the translation, by the way, is that you don't need to give the Netflix views to Megan. You can just watch our sum up of it and you'll get far more information. So just stay here and that very special edition of the uncancelled after show coming in just 15 minutes time.

I'm back tomorrow, 5pm UK time, midday Eastern, 9am Pacific. Please hit subscribe if you're watching on YouTube or Rumble. And most importantly, I promise to keep fighting for you. Stand by, though, because we'll see you on the after show. If you're watching on Substack, that will kick off in just one minute. Or if you're staying on YouTube, we are with you for the premiere. I'll stick around in the live chat to answer your questions as well. I'm really excited to do that in 15 minutes time.