Dan Wootton Outspoken - TELL-ALL BOOK THREATENS TO REVEAL KEIR STARMER'S BIG SECRET AS MSM CONTINUE COVER UP

Episode Date: October 2, 2024

A tell-all book is threatening to reveal Keir Starmer’s big secret, as the MSM remains stunned into silence as they become part of the cover up. But the Daily Mail’s Andrew Pierce has broken cover to say a bombshell book by Lord Ashcroft – who Dan revealed had previously been trying to expose the sensation has triggered alarm bells at Number 10. In his Digest, Dan provides the latest on the scandal the mainstream media knows about but won’t tell you about. Guido Fawkes boss Paul Staines and Father Calvin Robinson weigh in. PLUS: Robert Jenrick goes for the Farage vote as a war breaks out between the two firebrands AND: Is Dawn Butler engaging in anti-white racism? To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show for 30-minutes extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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digest, I'll provide the latest on the scandal the mainstream media knows about, but won't tell you about, because I believe you have a right to know. Guido Forks boss Paul Staines is here too. He said this about the scandal.

I think that story isn't over yet. Also coming up today, Robert Jenrick goes for the Farage vote as a war breaks out between the two firebrands

who are both battling for the Reform UK vote. This is a really fascinating one. Look at Robert. And then there's David Lanny, our Foreign Secretary. Living proof that there is a more annoying LBC presenter than James O'Brien. But seriously, friends. but seriously it's a good line but i'll tell you nigel farage's response later plus is dawn butler engaging in anti-white racism my skin is my protection and you my friends

don't matter because i am the chosen one for I am of the first ones you created a structure that made you seem great when the simple reality is it is all fake because I am the chosen one goodness me father Calvin Robinson is here later cannot wait to see what he thinks about that then in the uncancelled after show, Lady Victoria Harvey with the latest on the royals as Prince Harry arrives in Africa to make a bizarre plea to those in power. And you can register to watch on our own website right now, www.outspoken.live. It is a safe space, free of censorship, and your support at just £5 a month gives you 30 minutes of extra content every single weekday and allows me to continue making this independent daily news show. Let's go. So the MSAM may not have touched the story, but trust me,

everyone in Westminster, and I mean everyone, every major political broadcaster, political journalist, editor, politician, special advisor, snivel service, they are all talking about Keir Starmer's big secret. So this week I have broken cover, as you know, as an independent journalist to reveal the stories that remain unanswered about the potential shape of Keir Starmer's family, suggestions that he and his wife were living separate lives before the election campaign, and how all attempts to report the story have been aborted. But after my revelations, which have become clearly in the public interest following Lord Ali's tens of thousands of donations to Starmer's wife for clothing and pot accommodation for his stunts to study his GCSEs, Lord Ashcroft broke cover. So the Conservative parent top author

has spent months trying to reveal what he knows. And he wrote directly to the Prime Minister on X saying, as you know, I'm updating your biography, Red Knight, to be released next spring. It will address Labour's manifesto and promises after six months in office. I am struggling to keep up with all the revelations. I would ask you to pause for a few weeks to let me catch up. Thank you. And following that tweet, breaking right now, the Daily Mail's associate editor, a long time Westminster insider, has now confirmed this is triggering alarm bells in number 10 and those headaches are only growing for the prime minister's staff with the bombshell announcement in the last few hours that wait for it lord ali now under investigation for alleged non-registration of interest leading

to potential breaches of the code of conduct for members of the house of Conduct for members of the House of Lords. And Starmer has now decided to pay back £6,000 worth of those gifts. So given the context of what's going on here, actually, this story couldn't be more serious. But what disgusts me, of course, is that the Boris witch hunters are all silent over this stuff. No special investigations from Wokai TV's Paul Brand, no hysterical ex-posts from Carol Vorderman, no lengthy monologues about cronyism and cover-ups from James O'Brien of the Labour Broadcasting Company formerly known as LBC. Nothing, nada, complete silence. So it is worth giving credit to those brave souls alongside me who don't want to hide something everyone in the Westminster swamp is talking about from their listeners and their readers. Guido Fawkes has led the way on this,

and its editor Paul Staines believes that there is more to come. During the election campaign, you were hinting a bit about, well, Guido was hinting a bit about Keir Starmer's personal life, but... We never got the story to fly. Well, no, more that no one else...

Yeah, everyone was talking about it. Yeah, but no one else was talking about this, apart from Guido. Is that because journalists and editors want to stay on the side of the incoming government? There was a bit of that and there was a bit of, you can't, those type of stories you can never prove. Yeah, liable. You've got a photographer outside at night time and in the morning, shall we say. So it's very hard.

Like I got him. Very hard to stand up yeah you know um and just because everyone knows or everyone says doesn't mean it's tough so we tried it from all different angles and people enjoy as lord leveson said to me a mosaic of information yeah could put it together and you know i think i think basically a lot of people knew what the mail and the telegraph were getting at when they were saying, where's Vicky? And all that kind of stuff.

Where's the ring? Truth is... Where's the ring? He's still not got it back on. Maybe he's just putting a bit of weight. You know, it happens. Maybe he's following Prince William. He also doesn't wear a ring.

Is that true? I don't wear a ring. Apparently it's the traditional thing to do. Well, I don't wear a watch, so I don't like it. Me either. I think that story isn't over yet. That story isn't over yet. Well, clearly Lord Ashcroft agrees, Andrew Pearce agrees,

and a lot of worried folk in Number 10 Downing Street agree. Mike Graham, on talk and the intrepid independent journalist Isabel Oakeshott, they've also been asking all the right questions on this. So I think there is something bigger going on here, and it's annoying because I don't know what it is. And I know that the lobby of political journalists at Westminster feel the same. All of us instinctively feel that there is... And Jennifer Akuri, who had her career destroyed

for an alleged affair with Boris Johnson, she thinks she knows exactly what's going on. I believe there's definitely something very sinister going on, which is why I think whoever does have this story will wait till the opportune moment to make sure that they do the most damage. Because it's inevitable. It will come out, you know, whatever this is. Now, I've thought a lot about the story, as you can imagine. I am under all sorts of legal threats. Trust me, they want to shut me up. And I'm clear that who a politician was sleeping with

and whether the Prime Minister has a love child should actually be of no interest. But what I cannot accept is a complete two-tier system. And as is always the case, I've been listening very closely to you, the outspoken family, because if you thought I was on the wrong track here, I would take that very seriously. But actually, it's quite the opposite. 37,000 of you have now voted in my major YouTube poll, and 85% say the public does have a right to know about Keir Starmer's private life. Osbole wrote to me saying, it is most certainly within the public interest that we do know.

The problem for him is he's been lying and covering things up, which goes against British values. His time is up. Jeff Nod wrote, the Labour left-wing supporting media have always hammered the Conservatives' private life, so what's good for them is good for Labour. Elia Tone wrote to me to say, since his private life seems to be in sharp contrast to what the Labour Party is supposed to represent,

then yes, his private life should be scrutinised in every way that he has chosen to scrutinise ordinary individuals in this country. You cannot have one rule for a select few and another rule for the rest of society and shouldn't he be leading by example anyway uh from lindsey mary davies it depends what the information actually is if it reveals something that is strongly negative about his personality or it affects his policy making or he's a danger to anyone or he's done something illegal, then we as victims of his governance has a right to know. And from Ian Hawkes, media bias for all to see. They can never be trusted again to be impartial. It's a dangerous situation for someone to be in. Power with secrets could be open to future blackmail. And I guess for me, that really is the question for the mainstream media. How can you look at your dwindling number of viewers and listeners? How can you look at them in the eye when your coverage of Boris Johnson's private life was quite clearly intrusive, salacious, and designed to destroy his career, but then say Starmer is some sort of protected species.

It stinks. And I am here to point out the fact you are all hypocritical client journalists who hide the truth from the people you should be working for. And now, time for today's uncancelled interview. And I'm delighted to say the man we saw there in my digest who has led the way not just on the story of kia starmer's big secret but also let's be honest the drip drip drip of sleaze emanating from every aspect of this government in its first few weeks. Paul States, who is the man behind Guido Fawkes. Paul, great to have you. I know you were straight back from Conservative Party conference. Yeah, I look a little bit rough.

It's because I've just got off the train from Birmingham. I shudder to think how much you've drunk over the past few days, Paul. But we'll talk about what happened at the Tory conference shortly. But first, you were very, very early on to this story, Starmer's Big Secret. Do you know anything more? Or are you under pressure legally not to reveal more? Well, you know, we've both been in the game a long time. You know the rules.

If you can't stand it up completely, you can't run the story. So we have a name, as do the mail and the telegraph. We have a birth certificate. And people have been looking into it. Journalists have contacted the family. So it's in play. And a lot of people do know it, but we have not been able to substantiate it to the degree that you need to publish. OK, so to clarify, would you say that this story is about the shape of Keir Starmer's family? Yes. Yeah, that's a very good way of phrasing it. And do you believe it's in the public interest to reveal it? So Starmer's been very careful.

For instance, he insists, and the media generally goes along with it, that his kids aren't named. And, you know, most lobby journalists are respectful of that because, you know because they're family people and politicians' kids do get a lot of, can get bullied and differently. So they don't name the kids and Starmer doesn't ever use the children in his campaigning.

Although he did do a video during the COVID which he made out was uh from his home with pictures of the children in the background on the bookshelf which was lord alley's um penthouse in covent garden so it sometimes does cross that line but in general he doesn't use the children for political purposes and you might think that's very wise and fair enough, or he might have a reason for not wanting to publicise his children. Yeah, I mean, look, I think it's a bit insane that we can be talking about the Prime Minister of this country and the media will argue that they won't name the children. I think that is a bit nuts, to be completely honest. But I guess for me, Paul, it's because I've just lived through all of these years of there being absolutely no respect

for boris johnson's personal life whatsoever i mean you could also argue boris johnson has been very private when it comes to his family he's never put his kids out there in the in the public domain and desperately begged for those children to be protected now i'm sorry it was labor politicians that spent about four years using every tiny detail of Boris Johnson's personal life, not only to embarrass him and humiliate him and call him disgusting and make jokes about the number of children that he has.

I mean, I can dig all of those up. You remember them. It's all been going on. But also to try and make him lose his job as well i mean this this wasn't just harmless digs about his personal life it was all about driving him from office well it was it added to the pressure but it was um it was basically to um smear his character really you know the and boris was always very careful to say, I'm not an angel, and he never discussed his private life. So the comparison between how the media treated Boris

and how they're treating Starmer is quite something, though. So just before we move on to the generalities of this Lee scandal, just want to clarify a couple of things that you may or may not know. Lord Ashcroft, he's been trying to reveal this, hasn't he? For some time. Yeah, and he does name the children in his book, Red Knight.

Yes. Which I believe has got a paperback coming out which is going to have more editions, the paperback version. He has... He actually and in his book, Red Queen, which was about Reina, he references a story and this is we we dug it out and used it. He references a story about a senior Labour politician, putting Labour HQ in

a panic because they're worried about a story that was going to come out about an affair and a love child. Now, you can make the inference that you required there, who would Labour HQ be panicking about during a campaign having a love child? So that's what really triggered us looking into it. Because I guess you'd say people are unlikely to care paul if it was you know pat mcfadden or or a member of the shadow cabinet that's that's not going to panic them is it it's not going to panic it's not going to panic labor um because he's not

front and center of the campaign you You know, with Starmer, it might be different. OK, very, very, very interesting. And then Andrew Pearce today referring to the publication of that updated book and saying that it has, quote, triggered alarm bells at number 10. So I think we can certainly say, can't we? They're talking about this. They're worried about this. And all the Westminster journalists are talking about this. When we were covering it, when we were sort of shaking the tree a bit before the election, I bumped into a former Labour MP in a pub who knew the story.

He knew it. He knew exactly what we were getting at. And he just said, you're not going to make it stick, you know, quite confidently. And I do wonder if the people concerned don't make a comment and don't confirm anything. I think the story can stay buried, frankly. Maybe. I mean, you can imagine how I feel about this, Paul, because last year I was subjected to, as you well know, a complete smear campaign to destroy my career and actually my life based on total lies. And they were complete lies and they were investigated and they were proven to be lies. And I always knew they were lies and I always said they were lies. And I already always told my employees that they were lies.

But the mainstream media in the left were quite happy to jump on this story. The Guardian, the Daily Mirror, and I find that bizarre. I mean, at that point, I'm a presenter at GB News. I'm not Prime Minister. No, and I think you did get some apologies i seem to recall didn't you yeah the guardian and the daily mirror just for the record yeah so that you get the point that i'm making don't you i mean how can they say that my private life is subject to public interest and prime minister isn't i just i just think there's a lot of hypocrisy going on, but I think it is worth you pointing out. My argument on the situation

and generally with politicians is it speaks of character. And if you're going to lie to your wife, you're going to lie to the voters. And that is a character type. If you're going to lie to the person you give the most sacred

vows to, you're going to lie to the voters. give the most sacred vows to, you're going to lie to the voters. So I think there is always a case for looking into a politician's character. Whether the media agrees or not is another matter altogether. And look, having gone through this, I know you and I differ somewhat now on some of these media regulations, specifically around whether people should be named once arrested, for example, before being charged with a crime. Having gone through it, I have a very different view on this to what I previously did. But there's no alleged illegality here, is there? So it would be a straight question of, does the Prime Minister

have a right to privacy? And I think it is worth you pointing out that privacy is now something that does very often stop journalists in this country running through stories. Oh, all the time, all the time. Even in scandals that would normally have been reported, you know, as recently as a few years ago, the privacy issue, if you start asking questions of, well, celebrities or politicians, you may get a legal note pretty sharpish from a law firm saying, you know, our client has a human right

to privacy, Article 10, I think it is. And for a lot of media organisations, it's problematic. Yeah. We need an American-style First Amendment, you know, where freedom of the press is absolute. Well, with that, I actually do completely agree with you. But that would also mean that we could no longer have a contempt of court and that

sort of thing it would mean a total fundamental change of the system which which i agree with uh but look the other thing is paul it's not just stum's personal life that you have been looking into you at guido forks i have to congratulate you you have put the mainstream media to shame uh since this administration has come in. Sleaze scandal after sleaze scandal exposed by you. You're a small operation. I mean, you're great, but you're a small operation. These are the types of stories you would usually think that mainstream newspapers,

Paul Brand at ITV, Channel 4 News, you would think they would all be over this story. They don't seem to be. So the Lord Ali stuff, they did follow on with, to be fair. They were a little bit slower, but they caught on in the end. All apart from the BBC, of course. I don't think it got

the same kind of coverage on the Channel 4 and other TV news that it did in the press. No, and I mean, this is a genuine scandal. And I'm not just talking about the living arrangements. I mean, you revealed, for example, the connections that Lord Ali has previously had with Assad. Now, you had to do that simply by going through and looking at his public comments in the House of Lords, which all journalists should have been doing.

That's the first thing. The second thing is Starmer clearly thinks he did something wrong because he has now today agreed to pay back £6,000 worth of expenses. I think it includes the Taylor Swift tickets, for example, on the same day that the House of Lords is now investigating Lord Ali for breaches of their code of conduct. There's also just a point of principle. If a businessman got £50,000 worth of tickets and events

and goods like glasses and clothes, that would be a benefit in kind, a taxable benefit in kind. I don't quite understand why MPs are, you know, not paying tax on all these donations. You and I would have to. Yeah, totally. There's a lot of things they get, though, isn't there, Paul, that you and I don't get? But again, to me, this story, it's about the hypocrisy, isn't it? We thought Labour were going to be different because they promised us

they were going to be different. And in fact, it feels like they're operating as the worst type of champagne socialists. I certainly do wonder how you get to spend £30,000 on suits. I mean, I have a made-to-measure suit. It costs, you know, £1,000. How many suits did he get?

Who do you buy them off? £30,000 goes a long way in a man's wardrobe, I think, unless you're on stage and a rock star. I don't think he got value for money for his donors. And Starm is rich. I mean, people forget this. He's got the gold-plated pension, doesn't he, from the state because of his role at the DPP. And there was a specific law that had to go through to get him that pension.

He's got property. I mean, this is a guy valued at over £10 million. Yeah, I'd say the house is worth a good few million. He had a successful legal career. You know, in public service, he was one of the highest paid public servants. They had to introduce a special law to deal with his pension. It was so big, the pot. Yeah, he's not poor.

I do think there is some kind of sense of entitlement there, isn't there? There's, you know, I know it caught on victoria sponger but the wife getting involved as well we were told before the election that she was a humble nhs worker oh she seems to have got the high life for some haute couture hasn't she well yes and she actually turned up at london fashion week and sat in the front row in designer outfits which which very much felt like this is our new approach there is a post-election approach and look in some ways it's nice isn't it that we have a you know wife of of the prime minister who's public but i think going back to the original story what was fascinating is that

there was a marked change you referred to it in the podcast with the bombshells that all of a sudden as soon as the daily mail and the Daily Telegraph started to suggest, where's Vicky, the disappearing wife? I remember I made a video about that. All of a sudden, she was out with a huge amount of force. And it was very public. I mean, it all started, do you remember, with that picture on Instagram, loved up picture on Instagram during the Taylor Swift concert.

And from there, there was a marked change. So it was very clear they wanted to shut down the rumours, but I guess it hasn't worked. Well, what the lobby suspects about Lord Ali's property, they don't really buy into, I don't think any of us really buy into, it was for the son

to do his revision for his GCSEs, that was he in the dog house? Was he kicked out? Was he, that was he in the doghouse? Was he kicked out? Was he, you know, using the bedrooms at the penthouse? You know, that's what they're suspicious of. Was he not under the same roof as Victoria? Well, yes, indeed.

And I had learned that there were mainstream newspaper journalists looking into the story before the election that Starmer and his wife were, shall we say, living separate lives for a period of time. But look, obviously, hopefully, I've sorted that out. But Paul, you're just back from the Conservative Party conference and quite a fun little row has broken out between Robert Jenrick, the man who I think is going to win the Conservative Leadership Contest, and a certain Nigel Farage. So here is Robert on stage today. The country needs a leader. Instead, with Starmer, we've got an undertaker. And what about the cabinet? What about our new cabinet? I'm literally complete.

Rachel Reeves. As wooden as Pinocchia, a dim ond ychydig yn fwy onest. Ac yna mae gennym Ed Miliband. Pwy bynnag sy'n dweud bod y ffynion yn ôl yn gyfrifol, edrychwch ar Ed Miliband. O Wallace, yn golygu ei ffynion. Ac yna, ac yna, mae David Lamy, ein foreign secretary, living proof that there is a more annoying LBC presenter than James O'Brien. But seriously, friends. But Nigel Farage, he is not having any of it. Watch this on GB News today.

And his party, Reform UK, claiming they want to make the party redundant. What do you mean? They want to make the party redundant. They want to make Reform redundant. Yeah, not Tories. What do you make of that? Yeah, and he wants me to retire. Jenrick says we want Farage to retire.

That's ageist. Well, there's not a catch-chase in hell like that, let me assure you. They're delusional. They're delusional. They think, let's get another leader, which, by the way, would be the sixth leader since 2016. Let's get a new leader, come out with some different policies, and somehow the public will all say, aren't they wonderful, we're going to come back to them.

And what they don't understand is it's rather like a relationship. You know, if you keep letting the other side down, in the end the relationship's broken. So, what is your take on that, Paul? ...candidates, the question, what are you going to do about my friend nigel and they don't have a realistic answer and i think partly it's because they can't at this stage where they're trying to win the votes of conservative party members there's not a lot of love for nigel he's given them a great great job at drubbing in the election,

you know, caused the biggest and worst result they've ever had. So I think what they're saying now when they're running for election and what they'll do pre-general election are not necessarily the same. Generic's game plan is to deny the space to Nigel, to out-reform reform. I don't think the voters are going to buy that. They Nigel to out reform reform. I don't think the voters are going to buy that. They don't trust the Tories. The Tories said for years, they're going to stop the boats. And they were not just unsuccessful. The situation

seems to have got worse. We had more boats coming. And I say don't have a realistic game plan for a deal deal with nigel they're gonna have the same result in this general coming generation they had the last one they're gonna get thrashed yeah i mean i have to say no one impressed me on stage today it's obviously been a really interesting few days for kemi badenock. Although a lot of people have focused on her negative moments. But Paul, there's been some good moments. I mean, she's going for it. She's saying that 5% to 10% of our snivel servants should actually be put in jail.

Now, I believe it. I actually believe she's right. But it's quite a major thing to say. Watch this and I'll get you to react off the back. It is not all civil servants i don't want people to get me wrong i think that civil servants are like everybody else they come in to do a job and i would say about 10 percent because i am going to just speak for kemi but she said that five to ten percent of civil servants she thought should probably be in jail and that was because they were breaking the Official Secrets Act effectively

and leaking. Leaking? Well, I'm not going to want my civil service contacts to be jailed for leaking, I'm afraid. No, very good point. I think a lot of them should be fired because, you know, particularly in the Home Office, they actively frustrated the elected government.

You know, they were running the administrative state, as they call it now, was running its own agenda, which was not the government's agenda and not what the voters wanted. We did stories about the private chat rooms that civil servants use where they're where they're actively frustrating and openly saying that they are frustrating the will of the government it's it's uh a problem that we've got a lot of woke uh wokeness in the civil service and particularly for a conservative government it's very difficult so i think maybe the idea of supposedly neutral civil service has to go and we'll be like the americans and have

a partisan civil service with changes so you have people who are aligned with the collective government's uh viewpoint and policy and manifesto when you have a change of government and that way you might get some things done do you think there's a possibility of a prime minister for raj in 2029 because i know some people say i'm crazy paul but i genuinely do well i think uh i actually bumped into nigel's um age when i was coming back from Birmingham. He was going up to watch the football. He's an Aston Villa supporter. And I was having a chat with him.

And he was saying two things that struck me. He said that the thing about reform is now the membership reform, including himself, believe they can win seats. And the voters will believe it as well. They've seen five MPs. It's a tipping point because the argument that the Tories used to use that, you know, it's a wasted vote and you'll let Labour in, that's gone. It's not a wasted vote.

So that means the obstacles of voting for reform in the next general election of, oh, it's a wasted vote, you know, they're not going to get elected, has gone. In some ways, Nigel's task is going to be easier next time. Yeah, I think you're completely right. Well, look, Paul Staines, you're doing God's work at the moment. So keep it up. Everyone should check out Guido Fawkes, because actually, I think this is going to be an incredible five years for you,

given the mainstream media's reluctance to hold Labour to account. Thank you so much, Paul. Thank you much. And it's time now for today's Outsider. And I'm delighted now to welcome Father Calvin Robinson. Father, good to see you. What do you make of this growing scandal over a mainstream media cover-up relating to Keir Starmer's private life? It's interesting, isn't it?

Because we touched on it accidentally in our last episode. I was talking about Ke here kissing his wife and how awkward it looked and how it didn't look like a loving couple embracing each other and uh i think maybe you misheard me and thought i was talking about someone else and you said of course you're talking about him kissing his wife not someone else care would not be kissing someone else i was like where did that come from but obviously you were privy to information I was not privy to, Dan. Yeah, no, indeed. Indeed, Calvin. Goodness gracious me. Yeah, I think I saw Julie Birchall in The Spectator this week, right,

that she thought when Keir Starmer kissed his wife, it was about as sincere as Philip Schofield. And I thought, yes, yes, yes, that's a very good comparison. But look, Calvin, you're a man of the cloth. You're a very moral man. We know they're socially conservative. Does it matter what Kier Stammer is getting up to in his private life? It does and it doesn't.

So it does matter that we should expect our leaders to live to a higher standard. We should expect them to be noble and loyal and honorable. And if they do something foul of that, they should resign. This used to be the case. Any politician or even king that was an adulterer would have had to resign in disgrace, actually. So if it turns out that Keir Starmer is an adulterer, I don't think in this modern age anything will come of it. I don't think anyone will care. I don't think you'll have to resign. I don't think you'll even apologize publicly at this stage after all of the adultery we've seen from people like Matt Hancock and Boris Johnson over the years. It's just kind of part and parcel

of public life now, unfortunately. But I don't think it should be. I think we should hold people to higher expectations. We should say, look, if you're going to lead our country, we want you to lead it in a moral way, in a good way. And if you can't be moral in your home life, how on earth are you going to be moral in your public life? How are we going to be helping our country become a good place when you can't even keep your home as a good place?

And the other thing is, Calvin, is what does this mean about the mainstream media, too? Because isn't it really important that they're not worried about covering up for a politician? Oh, absolutely. And it'll be interesting to see how this plays out, because if he is doing something wrong, the mainstream media should expose it. But of course, they've wanted him in power for so long now. Are they willing to hold that power to account or are they complicit in all the essentially left wing activists rather than journalists? We've been saying they are for a long time, but we're about to see actually how many of these journalists are actually journalists how many of them are professional how many of them want to investigate and report versus how many of them just want to propagandize and cover things up and it's it's i mean it's the same over here

actually i'm saying interesting uh the way that certain stories are not necessarily lied about but they just won't address them in the first place and so people won't on certain channels and in certain newspapers people won't hear the truth it won't even be covered the first place. And so people won't, on certain channels and in certain newspapers, people won't hear the truth. It won't even be covered up. It will just be silenced. Yeah, no, I know. I know. And Kelvin, what you also have to think about as well is, will a politician who is under pressure about the mainstream media not revealing a secret, potentially do things to appeal to a particular newspaper or a particular broadcaster in order to keep those things secret. That shouldn't be how it works. I also, by the way, just absolutely hate the fact

that everyone in the Westminster swamp is talking about this story, but they don't think the public has a right to know. Not just the mainstream media holding him over a barrel that I'm worried about, it's other politicians. So if other politicians are twisting his arm to get their own way so that they don't expose him, what is he willing to do and compromise on? That's an important question. He is the prime minister of our country, for goodness sake. He has a lot of power, a lot of influence. He shouldn't be scurrying around trying to cover up his secret torrid affairs. He should be out there fighting for the people he's supposed to represent. But at this stage, who is he supposed to represent? Probably Lord Ali more than you and I.

Well, indeed, because of course, we have the revelations today, Father Calvin, that Starmer will be paying back £6,000 worth of gifts, which is quite an extraordinary thing. It means there's some sort of acknowledgement that he did something wrong, or at least he didn't feel comfortable in terms of taking the gifts and lord ali himself is now being investigated by the house of lords uh committee over breaking potentially the code of conduct so this stinks but it stinks to me just as much by the way that the mainstream media are not covering this because if this was a conservative party prime minister just trust me it would be leading every single news bulletin are not covering this. Because if this was a Conservative Party Prime Minister, just trust me, it would be leading every single news bulletin.

Oh, I tire of the hypocrisy of it all. It's so frustrating. The moment the Tories do anything slightly like this. The corruption scandal. The Labour Party do it exactly the same way. It's like, do what? Who gave money to who? Who gave gift to who? I don't know what you're talking about.

It's disgusting to see the hypocrisy, both from the politicians and the mainstream media but i don't buy into what's happening at the moment this returning of six thousand pounds six thousand pounds out of tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands they've received so far is nothing it's to make it look like he's doing something and the same for the house of lords commission this investigation that they've launched. I mean, the Lords launching an investigation into a Lord, I don't buy it. Nothing will come of it. It's just to say, look, we're looking into this.

Something's happening. Honest, honest. They're not very honest though, are they? No, indeed. I mean, we know the mainstream media in this country has been completely corrupt. What about the Conservative Party leadership contest calvin robert jenrick nigel farage going at each other today jenrick saying he wants to be able to retire farage

farage saying absolutely not jenrick you're a big time fake this party conference season with uh humor because it's also weak and feeble. It's also rubbish. Robert Jenrick says a few nice red meat things every now and then. He's generally conservative, but he's not hardcore. He's certainly not. He doesn't have the capacity to retire Farage,

for goodness sake. And Farage hitting back at him as if it's anything. I mean, it's like when a fly is buzzing around your head. You don't honestly think they're hitting at it. It just makes you look silly. And that's what Farage is doing at the moment, unfortunately. He just needs to stay strong, get his party into becoming an actual party,

give the members an actual voice, don't handle the power to the board and don't keep the power to himself. We've discussed all this, what he needs to do. He needs to make sure that he gets people out there in all the constituencies so people have someone to vote for. He's got a lot on his plate to worry about

what the Conservative Party is saying at a Conservative Party conference. They are irrelevant. The country have shown everyone the Conservative Party is now irrelevant. They have got so much work to be doing. Farage should be acting as if he is the opposition. He should be stronger than this.

He's got to stop playing their silly little games. What have you made of Kemi Badenoch this week, Calvin? There has been a big push against her. I think she's been incredibly strong. I like Kemi personally. I don't support her as the leader of the Conservative Party, but I like her as a friend. And I think she's been saying some really, really solid stuff, which has generally impressed me but she's still skirting around these issues, you know, she was saying not all cultures

are valid, I don't know if I'd say the word valid, I'd say not all cultures are equal you know, some cultures are inferior but she's pushing on the right path and then we see people like Laura Kuhnsberg try to honor her in a gotcha moment as the bbc does you know that's that's horrible um tabloid journalism where she's trying to really nail

kemi down on just say just say the muslims just saying the muslims is what she was essentially saying but kemi should have turned around and said yeah islam is incompatible with british values christian values it does not fit in with our way of life but she won't go that extra step well done to her for not being baited. But of course, she needs to own it and just be forthright with it. But she's been strong. Of the ones that I've seen so far, she's come out strongest this week. Okay, because this is because, yeah, she said other cultures.

Exactly. Other cultures. What cultures is she referring to, Calvin? Because, you know, she's not referring to Hindus, is she? No. And this is something we need to be open and honest about. Hindus and Sikhs have integrated very well into Britain. You know, some of the first migrants were

Indian, and then some of the others were West Indian, and generally speaking in the 50s and 60s they integrated very well. But there's been a mass of immigration from Islamic countries over the last few years, and they haven't integrated. We've seen areas of London and other major cities that are no-go zones, as Trump called them back in the day and got chastised for.

But it turned out to be true, that it's a society and a culture that does not integrate with or assimilate with the host. And so when something doesn't assimilate with the host, it tries to take over. And it does that in a hostile way. Islam is not compatible with British values. It shouldn't be a crime to say that. It should be a conversation that people are willing to have. Because if we want Britain to be a great nation,

then we want it to be coherent. So we want it to be cohesive. We want everyone living together in harmony, no matter what their religion or their race. And people will be kind of thrown back by that. But England can be multi-ethnic. What it can't be is multicultural. Calvin Robinson, stand by,

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Wanted to see me broken, head bowed and tears in my eyes. More for you, you didn't realize, but my strength is powered by your lies. You are the wrong one, the violent one, the weird one. Whereas I, I am the chosen one, because I am of the first ones. You see this skin I'm in, this beautiful mahogany brown, this skin you don't like, I believe. So why you try so hard to achieve by burning yourself in the sun? For me there's no need, because I am the chosen one, for I am of the first ones. I know I'm black and beautiful, an African freedom fighter. My skin is my protection, and you my friend, don't matter. Because I am the chosen one, for I am of the first ones.

You created a structure that made you seem great when the simple reality is it is all fake because I am the chosen one, for I am of the first ones. So you wanted to see me broken, head bowed and tears in my eyes. More for you, you haven't realized. My strength is despite your lies. Calvin Robinson, is that racist? Because if we replaced the word black there with white,

don't you have a feeling that we'd be strung up, cancelled, probably arrested, maybe put on the Prevent Terrorism programme? Absolutely. That was the first time I've seen that because Dawn Butler blocked me on Twitter, believe it or not, when she was my parliamentary representative. That's how much these people care about the people they're supposed to represent. That is black superiority. That's black supremacy, which she's preaching there. But it's really, really strange because it's

not even English politics that she's talking about American politics. In fact, she's even showing Kamala Harris in the video. It's this American race politics that she's addressing. Well, it's critical race theory. It has no place in English parliament. What is she doing? And what's all this about? I am the chosen one, is she calling herself Messiah? And she's saying the first race and stuff like that i mean there are scientific theories that the human race started in africa there are also scientific theories that human race started elsewhere this this kind of the first race is very strange to hang on to especially for someone who claims to believe in diversity and claims to want to live in a multi-ethnic multicultural society to claim superiority at the same time as that when she is not the the native

indigenous race is very very aggressive and strange she's she called herself an african freedom fighter love go to africa and fight for freedom then what are you doing in british politics i don't understand no indeed and it's really interesting in terms of how you look at this because patrick o flynn is furious that the bbc isn't covering it as a story which i think is a really good point he said according to the bbc this black supremacist rant from a sitting mp of the government party isn't a story remember folks story selection is the biggest bias of all and he is correct on that isn't he oh absolutely story selection is what we were

talking about earlier. They censor news by not addressing it in the first place. But also, there's this massive bias. It's absolutely right. If the word black was replaced with white in this poetry or whatever it is that she's done, I mean, first of all, that's cringe. Why is an MP standing up there? Is it rap? I don't even know. But if you replace the word black with white it would be seen as white superiority therefore it is racist and it should be addressed as such and a member of parliament putting out racist content should be headline news but of course it isn't because it's who is doing it it's not even about what race she is it doesn't matter that she's black that she's doing it because she's left wing and she's doing it um i i had a news an article in the newspaper this morning i think

it was in the independent when they covered that uh my case against professor kehindi andrews has been dropped and in the headline they said something about you know this is the guy that called me a house negro but they censored out the word negro in the same article that they're saying that this word is inoffensive if it's an inoffensive word and the police don't want to do anything about it and the media are calling it inoffensive why censor it why not just put the word house negro because we know it's offensive along with uncle tom and coon and all the other things that he that he called me like there's a massive bias in our media left-wing bias and anyone on the left can get away with whatever they want but the moment anyone on the right does it

they're arrested they're castigated, they're cancelled. Like, we've got to find a way to fight back against this. We really do. Yeah, well, Malamie McDonagh in The Spectator wrote on this, what I think she is saying is that because human civilisation originated in Africa and her own ethnic origins are African and recently Jamaican, she is a cut above the rest of us. Yeah, I mean, it's disgusting. I don't think she's a cut above the rest of us. Yeah, I mean, it's disgusting.

I don't think she's a cut above the rest of us, for lots of reasons. I don't think she's the smartest parliamentarian we have. But the fact that she thinks because of her race that makes her superior to everyone else, well, again, she's not the native indigenous race of Great Britain, and she's serving in the United Kingdom Parliament.

Therefore, that's just rude against her host country. If she genuinely thinks that the African race is superior, then go and live on the African continent. But of course, she's not even from Africa. Her family are from the Caribbean. So it's all stupid. It's very foolish. And bringing this divisive race politics to the United Kingdom

is only going to tear people apart and tear the country apart. None of it's positive. None of it's helpful. What is she doing it for other than to kind of latch on to celebrity culture and try and make a name for herself? Well, I just think, imagine, Kelvin, if I were to talk about how it's great that the UK is a white majority country. The hypocrisy, all of this always comes down to hypocrisy it is hypocrisy but it's even worse than that I mean if she thinks she's

some kind of superiority she should be challenged on that, in what way are you superior list the qualifications that you have that make you superior and if she identifies her skin colour as one then she's out and out racist and the media should cover that and she should be sacked. But isn't the reality, Kelvin, that she is actually adding to racism? History Month or Pride Month is that they used to be events that were all about, yep, celebrating, everyone can be part of this. And I always felt they were relatively harmless.

Actually, I was never a big fan, but relatively harmless, a bit of virtue signaling. Now they have become something quite different, Calvin. It's about driving division and i think what dawn butler doesn't realize is that a lot of folk who do not have a racist bone in her body find what she's doing deeply offensive and i'm actually really interested in your point of view calvin because of course you are half white. No, it's true. I consider it from that perspective. You know, I'm half black, half white.

Half black Afro-Caribbean, half white English. I do not believe that half of me is superior to the other half. I don't believe half of me is inferior to the other half. I just think my skin color should be pretty much irrelevant. It hasn't really affected my abilities or my skills or my talents or the amount of knowledge I've been able to obtain or not obtain. It's not really affected my vocation or my previous careers or jobs. It's not affected my learning or my qualifications, my degrees that I've managed to achieve. It's not affected where I've got in life or it's not held me back. And to sit there and suggest

that all of it comes down to the way we look is just really superficial. It is divisive and it is racist, but I don't understand why. The problem I get out of this Labour Party is Dawn Butler is the same as our Foreign Secretary at the moment. She's like, what is it about these people

that their very core, their very essence as our foreign secretary at the moment is like, what is it about these people that they're very core, their very essence is an obsession with their melanin, the tan. She talks in her poem about, you know, you people burn your skin to look like this, I look like this naturally. That's kind of it. It's not even knobbery. It's just racism. There's nothing wrong with people who want to get a tan. There's nothing wrong with people who want to get a tan there's nothing people people that don't want to get a tan and sit under a parasol like you should be able to look however you want to look but also to some degree you're born that way and you cannot change your skin color so it shouldn't affect you you shouldn't have pride

in it but you shouldn't have shame in it either but these people that do like dawn butler that do have pride in it they are stirring and stoking racism in a country that hasn't really had a major problem with racism in a long, long time. No, and we're not a systemically racist country. Of course, there is racism, just like there is any form of prejudice in society against a whole load of people. But this is not a systemically racist country. But do you know the thing that i think more than anything calvin i'm pretty sure you're going to agree with me on this actually aren't these hard leftists just the biggest bores in the world like i would absolutely hate

my entire being to be connected to some sort of characteristic about me, like my sexuality. Who cares? It's so dull. And I don't care anymore if people call me racist for saying this. I believe in a colorblind society. That is how I was brought up. Martin Luther King Jr., John Lennon. And so actually, I don't even view you as a black woman, Dawn Butler. I view you as a British woman and a human being. And I'm sorry if that offends you. I don't care anymore because I just find it so dull. I find it so dull. Talk about something else. Talk about something else for once. This is the difference between the right and the left. On the right, we tend to see each other as people.

On the left, they see us as labels and categories. I get this a lot. So from both sides, I get this from the lefties who say, Father Calvin, how can you be friends with Dan Wotton? You hate gay people. I get it from people on the right who say, how can you be friends with Dan Wotton? He's gay. That's wrong.

Like, no, Dan's a friend. I love Dan Wotton as a friend. He happens to be homosexual. That's one of his many things about him. But it's not him. It's not his identity. It's probably one of the least interesting things about me, I hope you would think, Calvin.

Right. I mean, it's not like every time we meet, we have a discussion about your sex habits. Like, why would we? It's a weird thing to do. Why do people make their sexuality their very core, their being? But it's the same with race yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't suspect that you think oh calvin's my mixed race friend or my black friend or whatever i'm just calvin i'm just your friend but why do people want to make the immutable characteristics and the personality

traits the very identity of the person it's just sad it's so superficial and empty people are so much deeper than that yeah but this is all this government is about calvin it's just bad it's so superficial and empty people are so much deeper than that yeah but this is all this government is about calvin it's like i am meant to forgive rachel thieves for being an incompetent drone bank of england plant as chancellor of the exchequer because she's a woman she seems to think that's all that matters i don't't give a damn. You're going to bankrupt the country. So yes, you're right. This happens on the left in all sorts of ways. But you have to admit, Dawn Butler's poem was bad as well.

I mean, she's not a clever woman. Here as well, Dawn. Dawn Butler's not a clever woman, bless her. Like I say, if I had to block me whilst I was her constituent, I find that offensive, actually. She should be there to help me in my parish. Yes, she should. But we're seeing it out here. What I was just going to say, because I've got...

Oh, sorry. Sorry, I'll shut up. People are saying you should elect Kamala because she's a woman, she's black, or she's Indian, whatever she identifies as today. That's not a reason to elect somebody. You don't want the whole country to fall apart because you elected someone based on their immutable characteristics and it makes people based on their capabilities

on their merit on their policies on how they will improve your life how they will represent you in in power and in parliament or in government like think people stop thinking so superficially use your whole brain no i know and i know we don't have time to go into it in lots of depth but i stayed up for the u.s vice presidential debate last night so sorry if i'm looking a little bit tired but oh my goodness did i care that it was two white straight men no but did i think one of those men jd vance is a future president of the usa. Hell yes. Wasn't it brilliant? And what's so good is I actually flicked to CNN after the debate because I thought, how are they going to try and shame this guy? Because they hate him. They hate everything about J.D. Vance. And CNN, it was

hilarious. They actually said, well, you know what? if this was a normal debate, if this was a normal debate during a normal election, it might matter that J.D. Vance had won that debate. And I just thought, oh, my God, you can't even say it. He was respectful. He was everything they thought he was. And I just thought it was a beautiful moment and he is a future president I reckon right there great story too it was wonderful but it was respectful you know they actually both of them said I agree with you on that point but on this you're wrong

and J.D. Vance was so polished and so well debated like he held his ground when the horrible anchors were trying to say oh fact check on this you know trying to twist a bit of editorialism in there, a bit of propagandizing in there. He held them to account and said,

well, no, actually, this is why, this is the way it is. And we want the moderators to ask questions, not to plunk their own personal politics in. But he battered them away. He was essentially arguing against three women, and he did a great job. Oh, yeah. And when he challenged them,

because they were not meant to be fact checking but when they started fact checking him they muted his microphone i mean we started to show calvin talking about how the msm in the uk is completely corrupt and captured but last night the vice presidential debate showed that too uh but calvin robinson so good to have you and uh we'll speak next week god God bless. See you soon. Thank you, Calvin. But Lady Victoria Harvey is on the way with all of the news about Prince Harry's Africa trip. So don't go anywhere.

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