Dan Wootton Outspoken - TOMMY ROBINSON ATTACKS "SCUM" STARMER, JESS PHILLIPS & OWEN JONES OVER LABOUR'S COVER UP
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get to the news today.
Because breaking right now, Tommy Robinson has launched a furious attack
on slippery star, Jess Phillips, Nick Lolls of hope not hate and Owen Jones.
As the UK's labor establishment have finally been exposed for the historic
coverup of the Pakistani Muslim rape gang scandal.
historic cover-up of the Pakistani Muslim rape gang scandal. Livedly hoods, lost their reputations, smeared, attacked, violently attacked, imprisoned. So many people, all from start to finish, to cover up the dirty hands of politicians
and police leaders who allowed this.
They allowed it.
They covered it up.
And all of a sudden GB News, which has banned Tommy Robinson from day one and seen at Star
presenters brand him a racist and white supremacist, now seem to want to talk about him.
The Guardian was at even worse.
What they were saying was we think it's disgusting that people like Robinson and Mark Steen and
the rest of them were all saying this kind of stuff. Right. So my reaction to the devastating 197 page Casey report and the cover-up of Britain's rape
gangs in the digest. Then the superstar panel weigh in. Today Alex Phillips of That's What She Said
on Substack and Emma Dunwell of the excellent independent news outlet Resistance GB.
Also coming up on the show today, a civil war at BBC Breakfast involving Naga Monchetti and
Charlie State among a host of physical and verbal bullying claims on the crisis-plagued
daytime news programme. And it's a very sad day here at Outspoken. We're
gonna mark the death of TV legend the Queen of Clean and I have to say my
favorite outspoken guest ever Kim Woodburn who has died after a short
illness aged just 83. Then in the uncancelled after show on Substack Meghan Markle gives her longest interview yet demanding the truth be revealed about her in a 90 minute podcast with Kardashian ally Emma Greedy. Angela Levin and I have watched this latest car crash so you don't have to.
We will bring you all of the lowlights over on Substack www.outspoken.live register
right now and join the Outspoken Revolution. Because we're back live it also means the return
of our Greatest Britain and Union Jackass. Your nominees for UJ today. Jess Phillips nominated by Karen Hanke for raising a smile and laugh when the KC report
was being discussed.
I'm going to show you that video in just one moment.
Yvette Cooper nominated by the GRIFT report who says she should resign over the Pakistani
grooming gang cover-up and them trying to blame the far right and
now admitting it was a cover-up.
And Emily Maitlis nominated by Trooper237 who says she owes Rupert Lowe a massive apology
for calling him racist.
You could see the snaring anger pouring out of her.
Vile.
So three choices along a similar theme. You can vote right now in our
live chat on YouTube. Leave me your comments too. I'm so happy to be back live. I will be reading
out the best at the end of the show. So stick with us today, but now let's go.
The 197 page KC report shames Britain. It exposes the Westminster establishment, the mainstream media, virtually every politician, the police, basically our entire squalid
deep state. And while the findings are important and historic and have forced
Stammer into this humiliating new turn, I will admit, having read the entire thing,
that I am still concerned. So there is not one mention of Tommy Robinson in the report,
but where he is alluded to, it is under the pretense of bad actors who could use this ongoing scandal
for what the report describes as clickbait. Now trust me, as someone who has covered the
story in the independent media, there is nothing to be gained commercially from reporting on
the Pakistani Muslim British rape gang Kathera, nothing at all. Big Tech actually does all it can to throttle any coverage
of this subject. And this is a subject of course that has seen so many victims like
Sammy Woodhouse and Samantha Smith and so many patriots like Tommy Robinson, Mark Stein
and Katie Hopkins try to bring to the mainstream at great personal and commercial cost. Big Tech
doesn't want us talking about this okay. Now just this year, Slippery Stammer, our
despicably evil Prime Minister claimed a national inquiry into the scandal and its cover-up would be jumping onto a far-right bandwagon.
When politicians, and I mean politicians, who sat in government for many years, are casual about honesty, decency, truth and the rule of law, calling for inquiries because they want to jump on a bandwagon of the far right.
I mean, I actually feel visceral anger watching that, I'm sure you do too.
But if there's any positive to come out of this mess, it is that these scumbags have now been exposed for all time. We will never forget their lies,
their cover-ups, all to protect their failed mass immigration project of bringing Islam
to the United Kingdom. Like Owen Jones, who literally called this whole thing a lie.
About vulnerable white girls being targeted by British Pakistani grooming gangs. Now that
is the sort of thing you would have expected to read in BNP leaflets and which not that
long ago would actually have been condemned by Tory and Labour politicians alike but we
are in 2023 in the worst possible timeline. It's not true. It's really important to make
this very very clear.
Or how about London's failed mayor, Sadiq Khan, who wouldn't even up until a few weeks ago, wouldn't even admit the existence of these rape gangs to his Tory rival, Susan Hall, who is quite rightly now claiming victory.
Well, it turns out that this far-right bandwagon that I've been on for quite some time because I've been calling for a national inquiry on the rape gangs, turns out that there's a new
person joined us in the form of our Prime Minister, Keir Starmer.
So the big question for us in London is, is it kind of going to join us?
Because the last time I spoke to him, he didn't know what I was talking about.
But then that's on there for you.
But look, I have to be honest with you.
I don't know if there is anyone more complicit in this evil than Jess Phillips, the parliamentary
undersecretary of state for safeguarding and Violence Against Women and Girls who insisted,
do you remember this, she insisted there was no need for a national inquiry. And do you
know why she did that? Well I'll tell you, it's because she is so concerned about losing
her parliamentary seat to an extreme Muslim candidate as very nearly happened last year at the general election.
And do you know what was particularly sick?
Yesterday in parliament, she literally couldn't wipe the smug smirk off her face.
I want not just to get to the truth about past failures, but also to make sure that
we make the changes
to protect children for the future as well. That includes changes in social services,
it includes changes in policing and the police operation that I hope she would welcome to
take action to put perpetrators behind bars, and also the action to gather proper ethnicity
data which simply has not been gathered
properly before and where Louise Casey's report is very clear it is totally inadequate the data
gathering that her government her previous government left behind so I hope she would agree
to all of those being extremely important so that we can get stronger protection and truth.
Sickening behaviour, sickening behaviour. What are you laughing at Jess Phillips? What is funny
about this situation? I have to say though it wasn't quite as sickening as her appearance on
Newsnight. Look people have turned a blind eye there There's no two, I'm not denying that. Including you?
Absolutely not, May. I have never turned a blind eye. I never would shy away from calling
a problem what it is.
What? What? I mean, as even the left wing columnist, Dan Hodges, posted on X, this is
staggering. Jess Phillips literally rejected Oldham
Council's request for national support for their inquiry. That's how all this
exploded. She literally criticized Katie Lamb for raising the ethnicity of the
perpetrators. It's all a matter of public record. Of course on Newsnight she tried
to blame Labour's favourite bogeyman, the non-existent far-right, oh and
the former Prime Minister Liz Truss, who was forced from office in a deep state coup. Watch.
You mentioned the Prime Minister, you will remember that he described the calls back
in January for a national enquiry as people jumping on a bandwagon of the far-right. When
you reflect on that, was that wise?
I think that what the Prime Minister was saying,
this was in the wake of Elon Musk for Aurore,
was that the Conservative politicians,
Kemi Badenoch, the Shadow Home Secretary, Chris Philp,
that he was saying they were jumping on the
bandwagon of Elon Musk talking about on Twitter. I think it was actually
Liz Truss, she gets forgotten in this story, Liz Truss who started it and then
Elon Musk carried it on, is that he was like where have you been? You've just
been in government, you were the policing minister and the children's minister.
Where have you been?
And frankly, I didn't need...
But was that a knee-jerk reaction
simply because they are politicians on the right?
No, I think it's because they're politicians
who had never cared and thought it was politically expedient.
Oh my God.
Now, Trost responded to that, good on her for doing so, saying I accused Jess
Phillips of excusing Master Zlamas thugs, which she did, and of rejecting Oldham's
calls for a government inquiry into grooming gangs, which she did. It was not a far right
bandwagon, it was about holding her to account for her complete dereliction
of duty.
But it's not just political figures, because the MSM in Britain must never be trusted again.
Can you believe that Lewis Goodall has done a total 180? He's now trying to hold Labour
politicians to account for that far-right smear on LBC.
But it's pointless because he was part of it.
Do you remember his treatment of the former Home Secretary, Suhaillah Braviman?
You asserted that perpetrators of child-grooming gangs in the UK were almost all British Pakistani.
Now you had to, that was chastised, wasn't it? Entirely
rightly because it was a false claim.
Well, I disagree with the ruling from Ipsos and subsequent reports and data has shown
that to be wrong. Lewis, what you're doing is you're zooming out, you're zooming out
and you're looking at it from the broad umbrella.
I put it to you again, you may say you disagree with it. What do you disagree about with the
Ipsos claim that said that what you said about the clear majority of virtually all of grooming
gangs being almost all British Pakistani when Ipsos said to you that what you said was significantly
misleading and the Mail on Sunday had to actually put in a retraction of it. What do you disagree
about?
Right, so again, Louis, what you're doing is what you always do, which is why you've
got a lot. You've called it wrong on a lot of political issues in recent months and years. You're
you're fixating on tone and I'm not fixating on tone, it's about facts.
It's about facts. I've responded to your question about it. I disagree with the reeling. They've So do not try and take the high ground now, Lewis Goodall.
And as ever, despite the Casey report making it abundantly clear, abundantly clear that
Pakistani Asian men are the problem when it comes to this crime in the United Kingdom, Susanna Reid
decided to return to her usual shtick of bashing white blokes.
I just want to ask you specifically, you say most of this abuse is caused by or perpetrated by men
of Pakistani origin. The figures that I have seen show that most of this child's
sexual abuse is actually committed by white perpetrators.
But there is a disproportionate amount of abuse
of this type committed by men of Pakistani origin.
Are you taking issue with with that?
Statistic when you say most is caused by men of Pakistani origin I just think we need to be careful with the terms here as well
So so you might be referring to some police data from 20 I'm sitting at my way services. No, Susanna. No
Look when you're looking at this in the round, if you're Tommy Robinson who we just saw there,
who has literally been demonised and locked up for attempting to blow the whistle on this scandal
for I think over a decade and a half now, is it any wonder you're goddamn furious?
I just hope that every person, you see Nick Loles,
you see Owen Jones, you see Jess Phillips,
Kirste Dahmer, the entire Labour establishment,
that attacked every single person.
So many people who lost their jobs,
lost their livelihoods, lost their reputations,
smeared, attacked, violently attacked, imprisoned.
So many people, all from start to finish,
to cover up the dirty hands of politicians
and police leaders who allowed this.
They allowed it, they covered it up,
and they come down like a tonne of bricks
on anyone who tried to speak about it.
And right now, those same people who acted in that
way are trying to rewrite fucking history they're trying to rewrite
history as though they were on the side of the children you were on the side of
the rapists Labour you were on the side of the rapists yes I'm angry and so
should every single person in Britain be angry. Because you see all those traitors in Parliament, all of them sitting there in Parliament, they
all knew what was happening.
You see the entire mainstream media, every one of the journalists, they all knew what
was happening.
You see Andrew Norfolk, who won all the awards for exposing this, he knew what was happening.
Every one of them knew what was happening. Every one of them knew what was
happening. They let it happen. They didn't care. In fact, right now they'd still be
letting it happen. It would still be allowed to happen. If it wasn't for the
people who stuck to the streets, if it wasn't for the survivors, if it wasn't
for the whistleblowers, do not allow them to rewrite history. Any of them. Don't
allow Labour politicians, don't allow the mainstream media, do not allow them to rewrite history, any of them. Don't allow Labour politicians,
don't allow the mainstream media,
don't allow any of them to rewrite history.
Because every one of them had dirty hands.
Every single one of them, scum, the lot of you.
And everyone, everything will be unveiled.
Everything's coming out, everything.
You see, when they do this national inquiry,
do we trust them?
Do you trust them? I'm gonna do my episode anyway, I'm gonna show you do this national inquiry, do we trust them? Do you trust them? I'm going to do my episode anyway. I'm going to show you Labour's involvement, but do you trust
them? And you see if the truth comes out on this. Do you know how many of them need to go to jail?
Police leaders, council leaders, politicians, all the way to the top. You see that filthy Labour
scumbag, Sean Davies, trying to rewrite history. It's like what are you doing? You can't rewrite
history. You've all got dirty? You can't rewrite history.
You've all got dirty hands.
It's all coming out.
There's going to be nowhere for you to hide.
Nowhere.
Now, of course we do not trust them.
Tommy is right.
I understand his anger.
I feel it today.
You might be able to tell we are being led by scum.
Now, Dominic Cummings knows how the swamp operates and I want to share with
you what he's said about this. Important to register on the gangs, the government is
refusing to authorise investigation of police, social workers etc who worked with the gangs,
thus stopping the inquiry looking at the Whitehall cover-ups. There's obviously no justification for this other than
continuing the cover-ups to maintain the old regime, but in doing this they are burying the
credibility of the old regime, not saving it. The old regime's loop is in the same state as David
Cameron's when he walked onto a London hotel roof to rant about Turkey joining the EU 2016.
hotel roof to rant about Turkey joining the EU 2016.
And then on the failure of our media class, which you know is something that I've looked at closely,
Dominic Cummings added,
Remember what many MSM pundits were saying at Christmas?
Fraser Nelson, UK integration story, a beacon of hope.
Our streets are now safer than they have perhaps ever been. Our
immigrant population has almost doubled while our crime rate has halved. We seem
to have attracted immigrants who by and large are prone to integrate and
strengthen the social fabric. Ah yes Dominic Cummings said diversity is our
strength, British values and if people in small boats were leaving Dover and risking
death to reach Calais we'd have more cause to worry. The boats are actually a with British values. And if people in small boats were leaving Dover and risking death
to reach Calais, we'd have more cause to worry. The boats are actually a sign of our
success dummies. And then he pointed to Lewis Goodall who said in January, Far right thinking
has become mainstream. Remember that the notion of ubiquitous Muslim grooming gangs has long been a trope of extremism despite little evidence.
And Cummings said for NBC Goodall the real story is not the gangs but the emergence of
a common UK-US online right, making extremists until recently fringe politics mainstream
and Britain conservatism. SW1 sensible mainstream 100% on brand.
And then what about Nick Lowes of that stinking government funded charity Hope Not Hate, who
has finally admitted the government is right to call an inquiry. But Stephen Wolf responded
to him saying, this is about as low as a lefty grooming gang apologist will get to an apology.
Nick Led calls to stigmatize as racist anyone who claimed that the paedophile and grooming
gangs were a majority ethnic composition including from Tommy Robinson to Suala Braverman.
His organization contributed to the division in this country whilst parading as offering
hope. Their hate for those who raised the issue is clear. Hope Not Hate should have
all its government funding withdrawn, but don't hold your breath. I know we won't.
But as ex-Coronation Street star Charlie Lawson revealed in his usual colourful language. Ordinary Brits are finally waking up.
Jesus, you wouldn't fucking follow him to Marks and Spencer's would you? Anyway, he has finally
seen the light, well he hasn't, he's been kicked up the fucking arse by some people in Westminster
no doubt, and we are to have a national inquiry into the rape gangs and I don't care, they're not
grooming gangs, the rape gangs, let's say it how how it is I don't give a shit what race they
are they're rape gangs and now the shit will hit the fan because hopefully Sammy
Woodhouse and her friends and all the rest of those wonderful young ladies
from grooming a national disgrace documentary will start speaking up again
and we can get these people who started all these cover-ups and kept them going and listen
I've no time for Dominic Cummings but at least he can have the balls to say it as
it is. We're coming to get you all you councillors in Rochdale, Oldham, Blackburn,
Birmingham everywhere you're gonna get your asses fucking kicked. Cheerio now.
Now today's superstar panel. everywhere, you're gonna get your asses fucking kicked. Cheerio night.
Now today's superstar panel.
And it is a pleasure to have her back, Alex Phillips of the That's What She Said substack
and joining Outspoken for the first time, Emma Dunwell, the independent journalist of Resistance GB. So Alex, I mean,
has our elite class finally been exposed?
Yeah, they've definitely been exposed. And I think actually in the wake of the Casey
report, I'm now beginning to think that the entire existence of the government is untenable.
Now, I don't say that loosely, I don't say that in a blasé manner,
because I despise the Labour Party, which I do.
But what we have seen is a safeguarding minister
who said that having a national inquiry
would be a far-right bandwagon,
repeating the Prime Minister who said much the same thing.
We know that all of these acts, by and large,
were perpetrated in Labour-controlled councils.
We know that labour-controlled councils
themselves didn't want to do their own independent inquiries, only Oldham, which the safeguarding
minister then blocked. We also know the Labour Party have a rather strange relationship when it comes to
Muslim criminality. There was the cover-up of what happened in Salzburg gaslighting the entire public
that this was a terrorist offence of an Islamist.
There's lots of history of things such as postal vote fraud within Muslim communities
voting for the Labour Party. I could go on and on and on not answering the question on the burger.
We had Lucy Powell on any questions. I mean the Labour Party now, it is very clear, every single time, have decided to appease or condone
criminality within one particular community in the United Kingdom in order to garner their
votes or because they're afraid of them. And when it comes to the safety and the protection
of little girls, can you imagine, other than actual genocide, killing genocide, any other crime that comes
close to what happened to white girls at the hands of Muslim men?
And they're doing it again, of course.
They're saying, oh, it's British Pakistanis.
No, actually, the Casey report pointed out there's asylum seekers, other foreign nationals,
the common denominator.
These men are from Muslim backgrounds, and the Labour Party still won't speak to that.
They're still gaslighting us.
They're still trying to fiddle this inquiry.
So nothing about their involvement,
their local councillors, their ministers gets covered at all.
They're going to make the inquiry a busted flush.
They're still lying to us.
They're still gaslighting us.
I watched that interview with Jess Phillips on Newsnight.
I saw her arrogance, little cocky defensive smile on those green benches and I thought this is the
biggest issue, this is the biggest issue in our recent history as a nation. What has been allowed
to be perpetrated swept under the carpet and is still going on today and if we expect this government,
the ones who seem to appease Muslim criminality to be the ones to finally have an open conversation and sort it
out, it's not going to happen. So how, when this is the most despicable,
disgusting crime, an issue of national importance, how can we have them sitting
in number 10 Downing Street, sitting around the cabinet table and trust them
to do something about it when all they've done is lie, cover up, gaslight and actually put people in prison,
intimidate people for speaking out. This government's now untenable. This government has to go.
I couldn't agree more. I could not agree more. Emma Dunwell, so great to have you here. Do
you share some of my concerns though? Because look, I read the
whole report and it is incredibly powerful. And the fact is that time and again, time
and again, our elite class have decided to literally cover up the ethnicity of these
serial rapists because they're worried about community cohesion.
However, I didn't like the fact that within the report they're still saying,
but this could give rise to online clickbait.
It's almost like the same sort of thing like slamming Tommy Robinson, slamming this invisible far right.
Well, yeah, Dan, I mean, first of all, thank you for having me
on. The issue with the Grumman programs, there is no doubt that
this has been covered up. But these girls have been betrayed
on a systematic scale. We already know that Labour have
essentially bought votes from certain demographics, and it's
never been racist to recognise a statistic.
Now we have those statistics in black and white so that they can no longer be denied, but we all knew it.
And like you said, we were all branded as far right, jumping on a bandwagon.
And I think it's very telling that even when Tommy Robinson is alluded to within the report, they're still very careful to
attribute any credit to him for the advocacy that he did around this. I mean, I was watching a Tim
Paul video on this earlier today, and he said, you know, in the States, that's how everyone found out
about it through Tommy Robinson. It wasn't through the mainstream media. They didn't care. And now
that this report has come out, all of a sudden sudden they feel the need to cover their own backs, as always. And who's taking
the brunt of what's gone wrong is the victims. I mean, even some of these victims have criminal
records from when they were under the coercion of these gangs. I mean, Sammie Woodhouse even
just said she's lost her legal battle to get her name cleared from those charges.
And it's just disgusting.
The government does not care about these girls.
Absolutely not.
And it is only through people like Sammy Woodhouse, who were brave enough to risk so much actually
in coming forward, that really did wake up the country to what has gone on.
But I agree with you, there is a concern in that tone of the report,
not wanting to acknowledge Toby Robinson, still tiptoeing around this invisible far right as if
we've done something wrong. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, we have reported the truth you haven't so don't be worried
about our reaction it's your reaction it's the elite class reactions the
mainstream media reaction which put all of these young women at risk for such a
long time and it is a stain on society if you watched our interview on outspoken
yesterday Alison Pearson now says it is the biggest scandal in British history.
Developing right now, growing claims that GB News is preparing to change its editorial
position on Tommy Robinson after the Casey report vindicated him over the Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs. Now this is of course a fascinating
development given that loads of that channel presenters have for a long time described
Tommy Robinson as a white supremacist, as racist, and indeed that coverage was even
continuing on the channel last night watch But then he'd also put something heinous on the back end of it. So it's quite easy to dismiss So I think a lot of people on the left didn't just see nutters like Tommy
Heinous on it because I've not really seen anything that he said that you know was particularly wants to ban Islam, which is
Tommy Robinson is objectively a racist
Oh, come on. Tommy Robinson is objectively a racist man that hates most people.
What do you say? What do you say that's racist?
Oh, heinous things about all brown people. He calls all brown people perverts.
How many brown mates?
Oh, yeah, sure.
What?
I mean, he works alongside, you know, brown people. I just don't understand. I know there's a lot of, you know, there's certainly a lot of, er... He doxed a 14 year old bram blad, accused him of heinous things that he hadn't done.
That lad has to go into witness protection.
Like, he's been heinous because he used to beat up police officers, he's done immigration fraud,
you know, he nicked a load of money off his fundraising supporters.
Woah, oh god.
I think we're just straying into quite a dicey legal serotry here when it comes to something.
Well seriously, that's not a good enough response from the presenter there because it's not
just dicey legal territory it's a full-on litany of lies and it is these lies that the
mainstream media have used to cover up the Pakistani Muslim rape gang scandal by turning
someone like Tommy Robinson into a false bogeyman. Now Tommy was clearly
not happy about that segment. He posted on X, who is this lying twerp on GB News? And of course,
GB News does remain a thorn in the side of Tommy. Its main presenters for many months have continued
to propagate this myth about him being the bad guy of the piece, led of course by Nigel Farage. Watch. Mr Robinson, do what the hell you like. We are totally separate from that. If I was to embrace,
as it looks like I was being urged to do, the sort of violent thuggish people like Robinson,
that would do our party immense harm. And Farage is certainly not GB News' only presenter that feels this way. Here's Patrick Christie's.
...Tommy Robinson in this loose role as advisor on grooming gangs. A, what advice do you need
on grooming gangs? B, do you want that advice coming from a man like Tommy Robinson? It's
not a good look for the party whatsoever. Frankly, it's not a good look for society
and I do really think this just demonstrates actually that there is an undercurrent, not
this subtle level of racism
That's been leveled at UKIP in the past. I think you could argue that this is now much more overt
Or how about Camilla Tomane on ITVs this morning?
Elon Musk doesn't quite seem to understand who Tommy Robinson is and what he represents
Which is a misunderstanding that is sometimes seen across the pond, you know
Americans and Canadians thinking that Tommy Robinson is some kind of, you know, misunderstood folklore
figure when in fact he's a convicted criminal and white supremacist who hasn't really done
much in fact he's currently serving a sentence for contempt of court.
Now describing Tommy Robinson as a white supremacist is completely outrageous and there is now a split within GME News because
Michelle Jubre and Ben Leo, two of its other senior presenters, have now come out publicly
and said that Tommy deserves an apology. And I think when I show you this interview,
it's an iconic interview between Tommy Robinson and Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight in wait for
it, 2011.
So what's that?
14 years, is that right?
14 years ago.
It's impossible to disagree that he does deserve a groveling apology.
Watch.
The only one who's been murdered by a Muslim gang, you probably don't, I do, do you know
only 15 year old girls that you know that you've grown up with that have been raped
or pimped, you don't, so I don't expect you to understand the issues.
These are all personal issues of yours.
Personal issues in towns and cities like mine that are happening and they're not happening
with the Sikh community, they're not happening with the Jewish community.
And indeed they're not happening with most Muslims.
No they're happening within the Islamic community, that's what I'm saying, that it's an Islamic problem
and when I'm just a simple person, so I'm just a normal person, but when I'm looking
at I have to look for where this hatred is coming from. So are you seriously suggesting
there aren't white drug dealers and there aren't white gangs? Of course I'm not, no.
Or Sikh gangs or any other kind of? No I'm not, but I'm saying some of these specific
issues are coming from the Islamic community, community solely solely the islamic community
terrorists wanting to blow us up
constant hostile activities was our youth all these problems and from from
sitting back there's got to be something is coming from it's a none of the other
communities are spreading it so
we're a symptom of the problem the english defense legal claiming the
community is spreading it actually what we're talking about here
with yes exactly as you could talk about members of the white community doing all
sorts of atrocious things you know not not not not 24 year old groups of 10 of
them hanging around outside school gates you've never seen a white gang and
purposely targeting never seen a white gang are we going to pretend that
Muslim groups are not out there purposely targeting our youth and
pimping them are we going to pretend it're not pretending white people aren't doing that?
Not in the same manner, not in the same group. They're saying it's a cultural thing.
Now what Tommy Robinson is saying there is exactly what the Casey report is saying in
2025. So the first on air talent on GB News to break cover on this issue is Calvin
McKenzie and I give him a lot of credit for this. So he initially posted on X a round of applause
for the reviled Tommy Robinson and the banished Mark Stein as Home Secretary Yvette Cooper finally
admits that every word they ever said about the rapes of hundreds and hundreds of white girls by Muslim men was true.
Politicians on all sides should be totally ashamed of themselves for dismissing them
as racists, as should every MSM journalist, mainly Guardian staff. A front page apology
from the Guardian should be the minimum. A donation to the victims would be appropriate.
With the notable exception of the Times, none of the national media believed the girls. The Sun was terrible, preferring
not to run the sexual abuse stories for fear it would chase away the advertisers. Another
dreadful mistake by a bloody awful management."
And then Calvin McKenzie, and again I congratulate him. Calvin's brave. I love him. Actually, I really, really do. He went on GB News and he told the truth about Tommy Robinson and Mark Stein. Watch.
This is the shocking reality is the man that was 100% right on all this and was reviled by every
single side of the political spectrum was Tommy Robinson, right? He was
a low voice saying this is going on, this is going on. He said, yeah, there are aspects
to him, I quite understand, not everybody's cup of tea, but a thousand miles, not particularly
mine. He was right about this. And the other one that was banished by it was the guy who
used to be a presenter here. He made these points. The Guardian was at even worse. What they were saying was, we think it's disgusting that people like Robinson and Mark
Steen and the rest of them were all saying this kind of stuff.
Right?
Good on Calvin McKenzie.
You could see the horror on Jacob Rees-Mogg's face.
And Samantha Smith, a survivor, also posted on this saying, this is going to upset some
people but I really don't care.
GB News didn't expose the Pakistani Muslim grooming gang scandal.
Broadcasters like Mark Stein were covering it decades ago.
Survivors like Sammy Woodhouse were sharing their stories long before GB News interviewed them.
Whistleblowers like Maggie Oliver were speaking out against institutional failings as they happened.
GB News has done great work, but they came in at the 11th hour. They can't claim credit for the decades of groundwork laid by those
before them and ignore the years of work by those who spoke out and suffered for their
bravery long before GB News ever existed.
So let me bring in my superstar panel, former GB News presenter, now independent, substack journalist Alex Phillips, and Emma Dunhill of
Resistance GB. So Alex Phillips, this is a difficult position now
for GB News, isn't it? Ever since launch, and I'm sure you
experienced the same thing as I did, there was this blanket ban
and some of us would try to get around it,
but there was an absolute decision made by management that Tommy Robinson would not be
allowed on the channel. Now, since you've gone independent, you have interviewed Tommy
Robinson. You have decided that he is an important part of this picture. And what seems quite
clear to me is that there is some type of civil war developing within GB News,
because you've got Michelle Dewberry saying, look, we've got to apologise to this guy.
But then you've got Nigel on the other hand saying, no, no, no, no, no, he comes nowhere near us.
Yeah, well, Nigel's thinking about his route to number 10 and what's going to be political expedient as he needs to do.
Unfortunately, politics is a rough and tumble game where very often if you want to build cohorts of voters,
you've got to play by a set of rules
that you don't believe in and don't agree with.
And so I think that's what he's doing.
He realizes if reform or he as an individual
ever turned around and endorsed Tommy Robinson,
it would create for all way among mainstream media
who still have an oppressive effect on votes
and this sort of creating a sense of shame about something. So I think he's just being political. the people who are in the mainstream media
, who still have an oppressive effect on votes and creating a
sense of shame about something.
He is just being political, whereas
Michelle Gibby doesn't have that issue.
The problem is GB news is run by an Australian who doesn't
necessarily understand this country or the history of it.
They are constantly trying to chase where the viewers are. When the Overton window shifts, they want to run after it as if they've always been there at the crest of the wave rather than waiting to see in which direction
the wind's going to blow.
And I partially understand this as a broadcast
of being concerned about the regulator off-com
equally being attacked and demonized
and having embargoes and campaigns against advertising
because that loses you money.
So, you know, both people, whether it's GB News or Nigel Farage, have their own reason,
they have their own skin in the game, to be a little bit lily-livered over this issue.
And I appreciate there are lots of people up and down the country, probably in positions of authority,
who quietly around the dinner table say, I actually really like Tommy Robinson,
but would dare not breathe those words out loud in public because such a brilliant
job has been done to, as you said, turn him into the bogeyman.
It's a distraction technique.
Oh, look over here.
Here's a massive racist.
Here's a criminal.
Here's a monster.
Look at this man.
Isn't he bad?
Which means don't look at what he's pointing at.
And they've done this now for decades.
And especially that interview of Jeremy Paxman
was just astonishing.
You know, it's like, back in a time catch,
and they're going, oh my goodness me,
if he said that today, everyone would be venerating him
as a hero, the working class whistleblower
who was pointing out something
that was so disgusting and so dangerous,
but he was massively ahead of his time.
And I realized in speaking to him
that this was a really important person to speak to,
a social phenomenon.
I wanted to find out who the man was, his motivations, his background.
I wanted to look into the history of the EDL.
Were they really the sort of violent, criminal, thuggish entity that they were portrayed as
being?
I looked through lots of videos and footage of their rallies and demos and couldn't really
see much to that effect other than what looks like, what looks like pure unbridled classism and
the ease with which the establishments were able to point at, you know, good old working
class men up and down the country and label them as monstrous skinheads, ignorant, you
know, illiterate, unseemly, immoral scumbags. And this is what they do. And that's what
they did to the victims as well. Let's be fair. This is what they also did to the white working-class girls who these Muslim men
were systemically abusing. They decided that the girls weren't worth it. They're working-class,
they get themselves into trouble. Oh well, they go off of these men we may as well consider them
prostitutes but let's protect the men. It's been an absolute atrocity, it's disgusting. We live in a
world sadly in the United Kingdom, and I don't know how this has come to pass
where people who do want to whistle-blow people who do want to speak out and
Really feel that there's too much for them to lose and Tommy Robinson was making that point in his own video today on social media
Saying what about all the people who have lost jobs who have been ostracized?
Prison and now all of a sudden you've got these renal and vain
Politicians jumping up and they're
going I said it I always believed it well I always thought this I've always wanted to
talk out about this oh it wasn't me looking the other way and we know we know that so
many people on so many issues when it comes to either taking the easy road of protecting
myself whatever the cost to somebody else whatever the atrocity taking place actually
take the easy road people look at what happened in Nazi Germany and say how on earth did so themself, whatever the cost to somebody else, whatever the atrocity taking place, actually
take the easy road. People look at what happened in Nazi Germany and say, how on earth did
so many members of the population just go along with this? Because they were scared.
They were scared of being reported. They were scared of losing their employment. They were
scared of being sent to Coventry and banished from their social circles. They were afraid
of being punished by the state, by the regime.
And so they decided that actually it was better
to go along with it and turn a blind eye to the fact
that millions of Jews were being massacred.
Now, I'm not saying that this is the same apples
and pears it may be,
but you equally have plenty of people in the public,
whether they held public official positions,
whether they're in mainstream media, whether they're politicians, whether they're school teachers, whether they're
doctors or nurses or just neighbours or milkmen. There were plenty of people who willfully
decided to turn a blind eye to what was going on because it was easier for them, for them
to fit in, for their livelihoods, for their security. A lot of people drank the Kool-Aid,
maybe I'm being too harsh, and maybe a lot of people just didn't realize and needed a report, an
official report to come out before their eyes were open and the scales fell away.
No, because there have been so many.
And they hide behind the report.
And then nothing changed. Nothing changed. And Emma Dunwell, I want to ask you about Katie
Hopkins as well because
there's been a lot of discussion over the last couple of days that she
deserves an apology too. I mean Basil the Great put this out on X and then Katie
actually joined in saying just waiting on my apology for your threats of
arrest Greater Manchester Police and you Simon Dok, you are a serpent indeed.
And again, that was simply because she publicly,
I think she was at the Sun newspaper at the time,
linked the rape gang scandal specifically
with Pakistani Muslim men.
So does Katie Hopkins actually deserve an apology too?
She absolutely does. I think Katie Hopkins is one of those people who's
always been outspoken on these topics, and has never apologized for it. And that's what people want. That's what people need, especially when our own
politicians are doing the best that they can to cover everything up. Katie
Hopkins, Tommy Robinson, they both deserve a massive apology. It's absolutely disgusting
the way they've been treated. I mean, you only have to look at more severe cases, I
would argue like Peter Lynch, where he actually passed away in prison. I mean, it's just awful
for holding a placard. Lucy Connolly right now is a mother taken away from her family for a tweet and we have domestic
abusers, we have rapists, we have paedophiles just being let out to make room in the prisons
for all these far-right thugs. It's an absolute joke. I mean just right down to the age of
consent in UK legislation, it says that a girl between the ages of 13 to 15, it's not automatically classed as
rape and they will explore if she consented or if she was in love with
them. I mean these are children. If we're arguing against legislation that
literally argues the fact that a child can consent that goes against our own
age of consent laws, where can you win? People have no option but to turn to the
likes of Tommy Robinson
and Katie Hopkins because they actually say it how it is.
Totally. Well, look, we've just got Starmer now responding on GB News to its political
editor Chris Hope on whether he regrets ever describing this as a far right bandwagon. I don't think
we're going to get a straight answer, but this is the first time I've seen this.
When you said to me in January in that hospital, you said it's a far right bandwagon if you're
calling for national inquiry. I know you're talking about politicians, but a lot of GB
news viewers and listeners were also concerned that they felt you were calling them far right.
Would you perhaps regret that remark? Well, I wasn't calling them far right. I think you may have been in the room.
Yes, I was.
I said expressly, politicians and I mean politicians, and I was expressly calling out politicians
who had been in office and done nothing, and it was them that I was criticising.
This is not a far right issue is it?
No, no, no, and I was certainly on criticising your view, isn't it?
But I think if you look at what I said, and I know you have done carefully
and you'll have listened to it, are very, very explicit,
because there's one thing that I find frustrating,
it's politicians who had the opportunity in power to do something about it
and did absolutely nothing. Now claiming,
late to the issue, that the only ones that have ever raised the issue, I've been raising
this issue for 15 years, I'm really glad that I'm the Prime Minister that's actually now
put in place a national inquiry, something which wasn't done well.
Well, we're load of nonsense.
Oh my god, I was the only one I'd been calling this at for 15 years. When? When were you
doing that? Oh, I'm so proud I'm the politician who's going to be the first person to have
a national inquiry. You didn't want it. You said it was far like bandwagon. This man is
a gas lighter. What I hate so much about him and Jess Phillips they don't admit a mistake but what they do is they
call the rest of us names they demean us they they silence us they intimidate us
and then when they suddenly find that they've been caught with their pants
down they tell them I didn't do that oh no I've always thought this these people
are disgusting this is why this government has to go because they're
still lying they're still maneuver. They're still maneuvering.
They're still gaslighting.
They have to go.
Yep, totally.
And look, just an indication of how widespread this is.
We've got a super chat in during this conversation
from Catherine, I won't read her last name,
who says, Emma, I was locked in a taxi
by a Pakistani Muslim man. I had to fight my way
out. I found out he was out on bail for raping a woman and sexually assaulting another. I
contacted the police and they were useless. And the police have a lot of blood on their
hands in this whole issue, don't they as well well? Emma as much as that is horrifying to realise.
Absolutely, I mean there are cases of girls who have been trafficked, abused, raped and then
simply sent back to them afterwards because they were they were drunk or disorderly and they were cautioned with child prostitution.
This is just absolutely abhorrent. It will forever be a stain on our country's history.
And I agree with Alex,
the only way that this will ever be,
even begin to be solved is with a complete revamp
of the people in power.
I mean, if I remember rightly,
Keir Starmer put a three-line whip
on the decision with the Child Safety Act,
which included a national inquiry.
So he never wanted an inquiry to happen,
none of them did, because they were all importing votes.
100%.
And we will not forget, we must not forget. And I think Alex is right to
say that actually this government has lost its authority to lead this country and that could,
I think, prove pretty devastating for the state of the United Kingdom in the months and hopefully not years to come. Breaking today, a civil war on the BBC Breakfast program with its two
presenters Naga Munchesi and Charlie Seat at each other's throats. Now this is
becoming a real issue for the corporation, the British Bashing Corporation
as I call it, given this is a news department that has been scandal-ridden in recent years.
Hugh Edwards, ring any bells?
But here's the report from the Sun newspaper today. BBC breaking point toxic feud destroying BBC breakfast exposed with bullying
probe tip of the iceberg and Naga Monchetti at her wits end. The newspaper
reports that the toxic feud ripping apart BBC breakfast can today be exposed
in full after The Sun revealed the show was facing a bullying probe. Tension
between presenters Naga Munchetti and Charlize State are threatening to combust over opposing
views behind the scenes and workers feel uneasy around the program's draconian boss Richard
Frediani if they are not in his clique with Naga at her wits end over allegations of toxicity. Now it's even been claimed that this producer
physically shook a lower ranking female editor with a complaint upheld after a BBC investigation.
The source has told The Sun, the probe into Freddie's bullying is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to BBC Breakfast. In reality, the smiles on the red sofa mask growing tension and an increasingly
toxic culture driven from the top down, with its unwitting presenters at the heart. Naga
is incredibly approachable and friendly to everyone on set, Charlie is very professional
and tries to disengage from any politics. But some stars like Sally Nugent are loved by Freddie, whereas others like
Naga and Charlie are not.
And I mean, let's be honest about this.
The toxic nature of the show is hardly a surprise.
I mean, the exchanges between Naga Munchetty and Charlie State have literally made it clear
that these two are the breakfast presenting team that hate each other
the most since Susanna Reid and Piers Morgan watch.
They tried to race against there.
It reminds me slightly of when Mike Bushell endeavoured to take on a
real race, a 60 meter indoor sprint race.
And over 60 meters, I remember it vividly,
Mike, good luck to him, tried,
and these were proper athletes and it was a proper race.
And about 20 meters in,
they were so far ahead of him
because you just don't see ordinary people
against those super humans very often
Yeah, they kind of race against each other. So it doesn't look that it looks even. Yeah
Well would have been fun, Sarah
I mean, okay
Alex Phillips
They despise each other. Okay, clearly they don't like sharing that sofa. It's interesting though, isn't it in television?
It doesn't
always mean, and I'd love to hear your personal experiences Alex, but it doesn't always mean
that it's not a good presenting combination because for example Andrew Pearce and Bev
Turner at the moment on GB News in the morning, they despise each other it makes for really
good viewing. Same thing with Pearce Morgan and Susanna Reid, same thing in the past you remember with Eamonn Holmes and Anthea Turner dating back all of that
time. So you don't necessarily have to be Richard and Judy on the sofa to make good telly, but what's
quite interesting about this for the BBC is I thought they had cleaned up their act, Alex,
and it seems like it's out of control at Manchester with these claims of physical altercations and bitch fights behind the scenes. Actually, it was really fascinating. So first of
all, disclaimer, I have had two co-hosts in my career as a TV presenter. One was Simon McCoy,
who I love to the ends of the earth. I adored presenting with him. We became very firm friends.
And the other was Kevin O'Sullivan. And likewise, he's one of my favourite human beings on this
planet. We actually miss presenting together
and would like to start doing that again.
So not for me, this sort of bad chemistry
with a television husband,
but here's an interesting factoid for you.
Back in 2016, I was speaking to a very good friend of mine
who I will not name, who was a senior producer
at BBC Breakfast, 2016.
So we're talking almost 10 years ago.
She'd come to stay with me.
And I said, what's it like at the Beeb?
Because I'd worked at the Beeb before
and personally never enjoyed it.
And she said, you've got no idea,
the bullying, the toxicity, the fights,
the divisions, the cliques.
And she said, back then, 10 years ago,
she was telling me how horrific and terrible
the atmosphere at BBC Breakfast was.
So when I read this report today I thought to myself well that doesn't actually surprise
me.
When it comes to Freddie Arnie I have actually met Richard Freddie Arnie at one point in
my life.
He interviewed me for a job at I think it was ITV, which must have been about 20 years ago or something now. Needless to say, I didn't actually get the
job.
His loss.
His loss.
His loss. Yeah, he phoned me up afterwards and said, I thought you were a little bit
too cautious. I'd have liked you to be a bit more punchy in that interview. And it's funny,
that bit of life advice, I kept hold of because look at me now, I don't hold back, do I?
So thank you. I'd like to thank the man because he actually gave me a brilliant piece of career advice,
which I've remembered to this day.
But no, I have heard long, long, for a long, long time that BBC Breakfast is an absolute viper's nest.
Fascinating. Emma Dunwell, I mean, don't you think that this is just completely a ticking time bomb
for the BBC? I mean, we were told that after the Hugh Edwards debacle, after that cover-up
where the man who announced the death of the late Queen Elizabeth II on air was actually
a paedophile and lots of people at the BBC knew about his behaviour and did nothing,
we were told that there was meant to be a
total clean act coming in and yet this all seems to be unraveling on BBC Breakfast.
Well this is just the mainstream media in a nutshell, isn't it? It wasn't too long
ago that it was coming out in the news that they'd broken their own editorial guidelines
over 1500 times. So, you know, convicted
paedophiles as hosts and bullying behind closed doors, I suppose, shouldn't
really be a surprise to anyone. Yeah, this is what this is what you don't
find usually within citizen journalism, which is why the Overton window is
shifted because people feel like they're watching and interacting with people that they can trust. They will actually give them the truth that are
hopefully not horrible people behind closed doors and the BBC just time and time again
keep proving themselves as examples of very dysfunctional professional settings or
unprofessional settings I guess I should say. And lying to the viewers about the truth. I mean, Alex Phillips, Emma makes a point,
doesn't she? Like, isn't the whole point of where we're heading in our media landscape
right? Like total authenticity. So actually, you can't really pretend to be something you're
not now because people see through it immediately. And I think whether, you know, Nanga Monchetti
and Charlie State are nice people or not,
like it's bloody obvious they can't stand each other.
So faking it doesn't work.
Yeah, no, I think to some degree,
Emma's got a very good point, but a lot of presenting,
I'm afraid, is faking it, isn't it?
Otherwise, you know, I'd sit there for three hours
doing a show on tour, can I pick my nose scratch? I do scratch a lot on there, cause I'm an it is faking it, isn't it? Otherwise, I'd sit there for three hours doing a show on tour, can I pick my nose scratch?
Or I do scratch a lot on air, because I'm an itchy person.
I can't, you know, shovel like, you know,
fork scratches into my mouth with a pint of cider.
You know, there is like an artifice to presentation, okay?
There is an artifice to working in the electric media,
even now, you know, I'm sitting here,
I'm nicely framed up,
and I'm not sort of doing the things I just listed above.
It would be rather uncouth.
And so similarly, if you've got two co-hosts,
you decide they don't like each other,
you don't actually expect them to start, you know,
pulling each other's hair out live on TV.
But at the same time, if it had been reported
that the atmosphere was so toxic
and so bad at BBC Breakfast 10 years ago,
you've got to wonder why on earth changes hadn't been made
to improve the situation. And I think part of the problem is at the BBC, that there's
such an embedded culture of right honoree, of wokeism, of lefty liberal media, that if
you happen to be somebody who didn't subscribe to that, you're better, better blimmin well
not confess to it, hide your light under a bushel and stay shtum or you're going to find yourself osprecised. It's interesting because, you
know, someone like Simon McCoy was a beloved BBC presenter for so long, and all of a sudden
he pops out the other side and is like, wow, you're a Brexiteer, who knew? Whereas I think
what helps, you know, when I was at GB News and, and now I'm at Talk, and Talk is a wonderful
place to work, frankly. I love all my colleagues there. We all are genuinely a very, very happy family.
But what helps is why in large,
we all sing from the same hymn sheet.
We're fighting the same campaigns.
We believe in the same things.
And it isn't this sort of, you know,
big bureaucratic behemoth, you know,
overstaffed, over-resourced that the BBC is,
which has this ridiculous mindset,
which I imagine a lot of people at the BBC is, which has this ridiculous mindset, which I imagine a lot of people at
the BBC happily subscribe to, but there must be individuals who pull in the opposite direction.
Yeah, it really is. And Emma, I'm fascinated by the work that you're doing at Resistance GB,
because for folk who don't know, this is a truly independent news outlet. Well, I say new, you've been going for
quite a few years now, big interviews with a lot of people who the mainstream media or a lot of
topics the mainstream media just won't touch. Well, yeah, I mean, we cover anything freedom
based really, we've covered anything from the farmers rallies contesting against inheritance tax and specifically
around these kinds of issues and regarding freedom of speech. One of my favourite conversations
I'll admit is Howard Cox because he's just absolutely lovely. But you know we spoke about
his expulsion from the Reform Party for speaking out about Tommy Robinson. The shift from
mainstream media to independent journalism is so needed because there
are people in positions of power or who used to be in positions of power
who have been cast out for having the same views as the general populace and
it allows us to feel connected again to people who could once again one day be in power and
re-establishes that trust that no one has in the government at the moment.
Jason Vale And of course also not regulated by the off
communist which is such an important thing because it's why you get that total faux balance and all
of that very annoying stuff. So no, I think Resistance TV is doing brilliant work.
And of course, Alex Phillips, you can also find
on Substack, that's what she said.
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Outspoken. But now back to the show. I can't tell you how many messages I've
had today about the death of Kim Woodburn. 83 years old, a true legend of the TV industry and I think the
reason that so many people have reached out is because they knew that this woman
was very special to me. Truly one of the all-time great British TV icons and for
me personally, my all-time favourite guest on every and for me personally my all-time favorite guest
on every show I've worked on. I mean I have literally worked with Kim Woodburn
through my time at ITV Daytime appearing on Big Brother together then at Talk
Radio, GB News and Latterley where she gave what has turned out to be her final
interview on Outspoken, which you can
watch on our YouTube channel right now. But the reason that Kim Woodburn was so special
right, was because she was a cleaner who found fame late in life and never forgot her working
class roots, never forgot that she used to spend eight hours a day as she would put it
cleaning loose, cleaning bathrooms, sometimes for very rich people. And as a result, she had
absolutely no time for the prissiness, the diva behavior, and the duplicity of the TV industry.
And that's why I loved Kim, right? Because she would call a spade a spade.
She would call out the fellow celebrities, whether it be Phillips Gofield or Holly Willoughby.
And so when I was working at the Sun's Bizarre column, that's the big showbiz column in the Sun,
and I was the editor there for a number of years, I wasn't able to attend the National
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Isn't she nice?
That's a gorgeous suit.
Thank you.
Well, I'm nice all you not wanted.
Get out of my way.
I'm speaking.
You've been in shock too long.
You're a greedy pig.
Come here.
Now, what is it with you and Gemma?
Would you like me to end up with her?
No.
So I'll tell you why. She's a lovely girl.
But she'd live in filth.
I don't just like her but she's nuts.
She's not.
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She's too posh to speak you see. I thought she was as common as not yourself.
Don't swear at her.
No, no she's obviously not a...
You see when you're as posh as Gemma Collins and you work in TOWIE you...
You don't speak to the likes of me.
Obav no.
Just hilarious. Honestly so many of the celebrities just saw Kim and ran because they knew.
They knew you couldn't mess with that sharp tongue.
And it was a couple of her appearances on GB News that many of you have pointed out to me today were your favourite moments.
You've sent in a whole load of them.
So I chose two.
The first was Kim Woodburn on Carol Vorderman.
Well, Carol Vorderman, she's gone, man.
She's nutty, dear, isn't she?
I mean, by God, she took-
What happened to her?
She used to be quite nice.
She walks in front of you,
just like a bum's two pig spiting in a sack.
Kim! It's not about the size like a bum's two big spiky and a sack.
It's not about the size of a person's bottom. Well you've got to admit she's always talking about that Jenny but look fascinating debate. Sorry about the tech issues I feel like I'm on a ship.
And if you're not prepared to tell the truth come on.
Oh god they wouldn't do that on GB News these days.
And then this was the one
that captured the imagination
and left me genuinely gobsmacked.
Kim Woodburn on Holly Willoughby.
But Kim, Holly Willoughby is saying that she wants to come back
and launch this new show next Monday.
Should she not be given the chance to do that?
I'll bet she does, my love. That little bitch. I'll bet she does, darling.
Kim, why would you say that? What's Holly done wrong?
What's Holly done wrong?
In all the years she's been on that show, she's never taken part.
All we hear is, Oh Philip, oh Philip.
Yes, but she wants to take charge now, Kim. She thinks this is her moment.
She a. didn't have better time to take a big salary. Get shot at that little
impy, wimpy little woman. She will not be missed.
And look, during my last interview with Kim, she spoke about why she couldn't put up with
that celebrity presence.
I'm a kind person.
You know what, my love?
But I tell it like it is because what's the point of doing anything else?
Let's stop falsifying and lying and covering things we know should be exposed.
Stop!
So true.
And that was Kim Woodburn's last interview.
She died aged 83 after a short illness.
Her husband is distraught, devastated.
They were such a tight couple for so many years and I'm
personally devastated because I feel like we're losing these legends of the
entertainment industry and Kim Woodburn was a legend she was iconic right. Let me
bring back my superstar panel Emma Dunwell and Alex Phillips. Alex the thing is right
Kim's story was genuinely inspirational like she was the first person alongside
Aggie you know it was Kim and Aggie on How Clean Is Your House the channel four show
who became famous because she was a cleaner and that's what was so cool about it.
Yeah, and you know, I always like it
when you've got these sort of people
who by force of character, by having some sort of energy,
despite where they come from, just steal the nation's hearts.
And you're right, there's not enough people like that.
I mean, look, I'm the sort of person, quite frankly,
I much prefer going down to a Wetherspoons
and a private members club because I was brought up in Gloucester.
Mostly I worked in the nightclubs and bars and pubs of Gloucester.
And when I moved to London, what I found was a bit of a culture shock because a lot of
people in London are frankly assholes.
You know, they don't like talking, they don't like gossiping, they're pretentious, they
don't actually show their true self.
They hold on to these sort of popular trendy ideologies.
And I can't get on board with them.
I always say that the wonderful thing
about the working class is because they haven't lived
a sheltered existence, they see the world exactly as it is
because there's nothing constraining their view.
And I find myself far more drawn to members
of the working class than hoity-toity, hair flicky,
pretentious,
you know, lefty metropolitan liberals. That's just me, you know, that's, that's my cohort.
And I'm pretty sure that actually Kim and I would have had a brilliant old time down
the pub.
Oh my God, you would have. You absolutely would have. She was a riot. That was the thing.
She was so fun. And Emma Dunmore, what she always used to say to me, she's like, Dan, I will
tell you the truth. No one else will. Because I'm in my 80s. I've earned more money than
I ever believed was possible. You know, I was a cleaner for most of my life. So I never
ever thought that I would have this money. And so I don't need to be on TV. I'm not
trying to make friends with anyone. And what was so incredible in recent
years, Emma, she became such a gay icon and so popular amongst young people that she was like
a massive hit on the app Cameo where people like Nigel Farage are really popular too because
people just were desperate for Kim to make them a message where sometimes she'd be a little bit rude to them.
And again, I've had so many people send me their Kim Woodburn messages today, and they say anytime
that I'm feeling down, I always put this message on and it reminded me of Kim and I thought, oh,
that's what a lovely crazy legacy. Well, again, I mean, these are the kinds of people that the
public wants to connect with.
These are the people that make them feel seen and make them feel heard.
I mean, I don't know too much about Kim other than I watched her on Big Brother and she
was always on the TV when I was little because my nan absolutely loved her.
My mom was a cleaner, so I completely identify with the whole people don't people don't identify with the
hoity-toity it's basically just echoing what what alex said people want relatability people want
someone that they can say you know yeah i feel like i'd be able to sit down and have a cup of
with you because that's what people want and kim strikes me as a type of person that even before
all the the fame and everything after she she even before all the fame and everything, after she
she'd made all the money and everything like that, she would still have said exactly how it is. And
that is why people liked her. That's why people loved her. Absolutely. Well, I loved her. These are
her favourite pictures that we're showing by the way, because the one thing Kim would have hated
because the one thing Kim would have hated was if I used a shot that she wasn't happy with.
So very happy to announce that Kim Woodburn
is today's greatest Briton,
nominated by our very own Darren Donaldson
of the Dan Woodson Outspoken Club on X.
He is such a fan of Kim and is so upset about this.
He wrote, the best reality TV queen was also a fan of Kim and is so upset about this. He wrote,
the best reality TV queen was also a part of the outspoken family and one of
a kind. We will miss her humor, wit and way of words that only she could get
away with. Wonderfully put. Alex Phillips, Emma Dunwell, thank you so much.
And lots more feedback coming in from you
on the big issue of the day,
which is of course the rape gang scandal cover-up
and specifically Tommy Robinson's involvement in it.
Thank you Arbiter for the super chat.
He writes, care the traitor Stammer
to protect his party himself
and the rapist over our children. Do not
forgive or forget, don't let him rewrite history, he has as much honesty as a stone
has blood. Traxman said this is in regards to our Union Jackass nominees,
yes, Phillips, Emily Maitlis, and Yvette Cooper.
All three should be accountable,
and everyone who was involved in their cover-up,
and Tommy Robinson should be given an OBE
for bringing this to the public eye.
Jenny Chilton wrote,
"'Tommy has every right to be angry.
"'He and Maggie Oliver have been on it for decades.
We won't let them rewrite history.
Tommy.
Jack Spring says, the inquiry may be happening now,
but the state will still cover up, defer, marginalise,
and try to wear down and drag out.
Kath Lissenden said, Stacey Dooley,
now lefty lovey of the BBC did a very
interesting documentary in Lusia many years ago she went to school with Tommy
she wouldn't make that documentary now she wouldn't have a career. I didn't know
that actually I'll have a look at that. And child Paul on this whole civil war
within GB News over Tommy Robinson says GB News could have been proud that one
of their presenters did much to highlight
this Mr Mark Stein but sadly they sacked him and now no glory. So a reminder of those Union
Jackass nominees Jess Phillips nominated by Karen Hanke for raising a smile and laugh when the
Casey report was being discussed. Yvette Cooper nominated by the GRIFT report because of the Pakistani grooming gang cover-up
and trying to blame the quote far right.
And Emily Maitlis nominated by Trooper237 who says she owes Rupert Lowe a massive apology
for calling him racist. You could see the snaring anger pouring out of her vial. And in third position with 14% of your vote today,
Emily Maitlis, the runner up with 27% of the vote, Yvette Cooper, but today's Union Jackass
after that disgusting and actually I believe downright evil appearance in the House of Commons yesterday
Jess Phillips she should resign she should resign or be sacked
Now we're going to move to substack for the uncancelled after show with Angela Levin
because Meghan Markle has given her longest interview yet demanding the truth be revealed about her in a 90 minute
podcast with Kardashian ally Emma Greeday. Let me tell you, she should be careful what
she wishes for. So our Royal Mouserman Angela Levin and I have watched this latest car crash
so you don't have to. We will bring you all of the lowlights. So please do come and join
us at Substack. We're going to have so much fun with this one www.outspoken.live is the address.
But it is great to be back live with you. I've missed you the past week so we're back tomorrow
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