Dan Wootton Outspoken - TOMMY ROBINSON COURTROOM CHAOS AS HIS HANDWRITTEN PRISON NOTES SHAME STARMER'S GOVERNMENT

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

Get 20% off + free shipping with the code Outspoken at https://manscaped.com Extraordinary scenes in the Royal Courts of Justice in London where desperate Tommy Robinson held a pink note to the judg...e from solitary at HMP Woodhill revealing the prison authorities had cut off a phone call with his lawyers - despite explicit instructions from the judge. I’ve just returned from the extraordinary and urgent court hearing and will bring you the shocking details of the hearing to stop the activist and journalist’s inhumane confinement after 150 days, where Elon Musk is funding Tommy’s case. In a special Digest, Dan reveals why it’s now very obvious the state is trying to break Mr Robinson before his release and I’ll get analysis from Ezra Levant of Rebel News who flew from Canada for today’s trial. Then analysis from the Superstar Panel Based and Bougie and Sophie Corcoran. PLUS: JK Rowling launches a scathing attack on Harry Potter stars Emma Watson, Daniel Radcliffe and Rupert Grint - and I believe she’s completely right to do so. AND: Why Netflix drama sensation Adolescence is being hijacked to attack white working class boys. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Netflix boss Ted Sarandos speaks out on why the streaming company is continuing to back Meghan Markle despite dire ratings and reviews for her programmes, as she pens a deranged note to a podcaster in a new bid for attention. Sign up to watch at www.outspoken.live. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:42 Breaking right now, extraordinary scenes in the Royal Courts of Justice in London today, where desperate Tommy Robinson held a pink note to the judge from solitary at HMP Woodhill, revealing, and this is unbelievable, I was there to witness this with my own eyes, that the prison authorities had cut off a phone call with his lawyers, despite explicit instructions to the contrary from the judge. Now, I'm just back from what was an extraordinary, dramatic, chaotic court hearing, and I'm going to bring you the shocking details of the hearing to stop the activist and journalist's inhumane confinement after 150 days. And remember, Elon Musk is funding Tommy's case. So in my digest next, why it's now very obvious that the state is trying to break Mr. Robinson before his release. I'll also get analysis from Ezra Levant of Rebel News, who flew from Canada for today's trial. Then analysis from my brilliant superstar panel,
Starting point is 00:01:47 based in Bougie, and Sophie Cacoran. Also coming up on the show today, Katie Hopkins targets Matt Goodwin, Rupert Lowe denies foreign interference, and Andrew Bridgen reveals Elon Musk could launch a new party as the reform UK civil war continues jk rowling launches a scathing attack on harry potter stars emma watson daniel radcliffe and rupert grinton i actually believe she's completely right to do so and why the netflix drama sensation adolescence have you seen this is now being hijacked to attack white working class boys Then in the uncancelled after show on Substack, www.outspoken.live, Netflix boss Ted Sarandos speaks out
Starting point is 00:02:30 on why the streaming company is continuing to back Meghan Markle despite dire ratings and reviews for her program as she pens a deranged note to a podcaster in a new bid for attention, according to Taz, live with me on that. Remember, before the end of the show, we'll also reveal today's Greatest Britain and Union Jackass. So make sure you stick with us until the end.
Starting point is 00:02:52 The Union Jackass is chosen by you. You can vote in the live chat right now. If you're watching on YouTube, here are today's nominees. Nicola Marflate, nominated by Ear No Shoes. And that is for the cutting of Tommy's phone call today with his defense team. Much more on that in literally a few seconds. Shabnam Amood. And that is nominated by It's Only Me 44 for saying that dangerous prisoners must be released. Is this Labour's plan to get more votes? And nominee three, Kim Ledbeater, put forward today by Mal Waller III for trying to bulldoze through the assisted suicide bill, which will
Starting point is 00:03:33 affect everyone. Get voting on YouTube now, but let's go. Having watched today's hearing at the Royal Courts of Justice between Tommy Robinson and the corrupt socialist two-tier British government, I have absolutely no doubt. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Slippery Starmer intends to crush this man psychologically in prison. So the Secretary of State for Justice sent four expensive lawyers paid for by us, the taxpayers, to try and justify the quite frankly and quite obviously barbaric solitary confinement of a civil prisoner for 150 days and counting. These are the same people, by the way, the same lefties who stand up for the human rights of rapists, of murderers, of terrorists who are in our country illegally, but at the same time want to destroy an activist for broadcasting a piece of independent journalism.
Starting point is 00:04:42 This is nuts. And Tommy is right to say, and he did say via his KC, that his treatment is politically motivated because of his activism and beliefs. That KC, by the way, being funded by the brilliant Elon Musk. And he pointed out that it was inconceivable that this same treatment would be allowed to happen to someone with the opposite viewpoint of Tommy Robinson. But in his final message today to the court, Tommy, who has a full beard, is looking noticeably slimmer since I saw him in December and was wearing a long-sleeved grey Nike top. He held up a handwritten sign to the camera that simply read, silenced, 163 million views, can't lock out the truth. Not surprisingly, at that moment, his camera from HMP Woodhill was cut. But earlier in the hearing, it was another handwritten note from Tommy that exposed the
Starting point is 00:05:53 prison for the torture they are putting him through because of his political views. So Tommy had actually physically raised his hand to object to an obvious mistruth that was being put to the judge by the government's KC, who was trying to claim that his conditions behind bars were far better than they actually are. Now, Judge Chamberlain, I have to give the guy credit because he is a free speech advocate who believes Britain needs our own version of the First Amendment. He wanted to hear Tommy's objection. And so because Tommy was unable to speak to the court, what he did is he specifically put the court in recess to allow Tommy to speak to his solicitors and his casey, Alistair Williamson,
Starting point is 00:06:41 privately, and then come back to report to the judge. But when the court did return, Tommy revealed to gasps from those in the public gallery, this note, they cut my phone off. He then wrote another note that said my calls are live monitored. they were listening and cut it off. So this blew a hole in the state's argument that Tommy was allowed phone calls and interaction with prison staff whenever he wanted. So Judge Chamberlain, well, I could tell that he was clearly furious because he needed to try and make a ruling before 2pm and he knew that was no longer going to be possible. So he ordered the government KC
Starting point is 00:07:32 to sort out Woodhill's under-fire governor, Nicola Marfleet, calling another halt to proceedings and insisting that Tommy be allowed to speak properly to his legal team. At that point, I got a rundown of the extraordinary and chaotic courtroom drama from Ezra Levant of Rebel News, one of Tommy's key financial and moral backers who had flown in from Canada overnight to report from court because he knew, and he's right by the way, he knew the British MSM would not report on it fairly. Listen to his rundown of events. lawyers have been sparring about his treatment in prison. And one of the things they're debating about is does he get privileges like phone privileges, visitors, and there was some dispute. So there was a moment there when Tommy, who was joining by video link, waved to get the attention
Starting point is 00:08:35 of the court to signal that the government lawyer wasn't accurately reporting the facts. So the judge said, okay, we're going to have a short break where Tommy can phone his lawyers to instruct them. Tommy wasn't going to give evidence directly, but he could say things to the lawyer. But in the middle of that phone call, the prison governor hung up the phone, canceled the call. And Tommy Robinson came back and wrote a piece of paper and held it up to the video link saying I was cut off and the judge said is this true and the judge judge of Martin Chamberlain said to the government's lawyer Mr. Cross you call that prison governor and you get that phone call going right now and you tell the prison governor not to cut it off until tommy and his lawyer are
Starting point is 00:09:26 done talking i i mean this this judge is very even keeled it's tough to read this judge but when the prison governor cut off tommy's call i think that irritated the judge because it delayed things and here's the reason i think that's an important moment, Dan. It sort of proved that the prison was taking liberties, that the prison was cutting corners, that when the prison says Tommy has certain privileges, well, maybe or maybe not. Of all the things said this morning, I mean, I think Alistair Williamson, the lawyer for Tommy,
Starting point is 00:10:01 he's an excellent King's counsel. I love listening to him myself, but I think perhaps the most persuasive moment was for the judge to witness firsthand the whimsical, capricious, and perhaps even abusive nature of the prison. Amazing. Especially because up until that point, the KC for the Secretary of State had been saying, Tommy gets contact all the time, there are people in there all the time. He couldn't even get the attention of a prison guard during the trial. And that second note he held up actually made the point that all his calls are monitored.
Starting point is 00:10:41 And that they would have been monitoring that pool with his lawyers. Very, very interesting. And I believe that. Other things that the Secretary of State, that's the government's lawyer, was saying, I know from personal experience are not true. I know you visited Tommy and I visited Tommy once, but my subsequent visits, one of them was approved and then at the last minute was cut off by the prison.
Starting point is 00:11:06 So is that what the Secretary of State, what the government means by Tommy has visiting privileges? For a while there, Tommy's own son was cut off from phone privileges. There's a lot of liberties being taken and there's a certain cruelty there. And listen, Tommy's been in solitary for about 150 days. It's not meant to be that way, Dan. And listen, I'm not saying Tommy is going to win. It feels like it's on a knife's edge here. And we've got about an hour right now. But I think Tommy's got a shot. And remember what's being decided today, not the substance of Tommy's complaint, but the scheduling question is, has Tommy proved to the judge that things are urgent enough and emergency enough to have a speedy hearing? So today is not the final disposition of should Tommy be in solitary. Today is a judge saying, is this something we should fast track because it's really urgent. And I think the strongest piece of evidence that Tommy's lawyer, Alistair Williamson, presented
Starting point is 00:12:06 was a detailed psychological evaluation by a mental health professional sent in to examine Tommy and talking about his PTSD, his ADHD, how some of it is from his last stay in solitary confinement, how that is affecting Tommy's mindset. I won't try and repeat exactly what the doctor said, but it was pretty persuasive. And by the way, the government didn't dispute any of that psychologist's findings. So you know what? If I had to guess, it's foolish for me to guess because we're going to find out the result in about an hour.
Starting point is 00:12:43 But I think this judge is going to say, the result in about an hour but i think this judge is going to say you know what let's have that hearing sooner rather than later he's not going to make a final disposition about what happens in the hearing but i bet he goes for a quick hearing one last detail i tried to google a little bit about this judge i hadn't heard of him before today his name is martin chamberlain senior guy obviously pretty smart guy from edinburgh originally if i'm not mistaken. He gave an interview with the Times of London a few years back, sort of up-and-coming lawyer. They wanted to ask him a question.
Starting point is 00:13:13 They said, if you could pass one law, what would it be? And you know what he said? He said we should have stronger freedom of speech in the UK. We should have a US-style First Amendment. Wow. Not usual, by the way, for the judiciary here I know. For the judiciary here in the UK. And so some of that has to do with Tommy's case, doesn't it? Yeah. And if I'm not mistaken, he also
Starting point is 00:13:31 weighed in in favor of the, what's that called? Existence Rebellion, or what's that group called again? The Sixth Rebellion. That's right. So they're sort of eco-extremists, and you and I might not agree with them, but if this judge is strengthening their right to protest, again, if he's being a principled precedent follower,
Starting point is 00:13:51 if he applies that matrix to Tommy, well, maybe he's more sympathetic. If he's a free speecher and a political protest supporter, maybe he's more sympathetic to Tommy. I don't know. You don't want to read too much into it, because he is guided by the facts and the law. But the things I could define about him just by a quick Google, I thought this isn't a bad judge. Brilliant. Well, look, I'm praying for the right result, but I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to level with you. I'm not feeling hopeful. And Ezra was right, by the way, not to trust the MSM in courtroom three of the Royal Courts of Justice, given his seatmate, who he thought may have been a reporter from The Guardian, was grumbling about, quote, fake journalists.
Starting point is 00:14:37 As Ezra surmised, they're not neutral. They are activists. It is also worth noting that my former employer GB News was not in court today, which could be explained by the personal animosity between Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage. Watch. It's not the guy he's portrayed to be. He has stood in the way and made sure that I'm not allowed onto GB News. He's made sure he tried to do the same with Getter. When I had that platform, you don't want to be known as a Tommy Robinson social media. These are his words. You don't want to be known as a,
Starting point is 00:15:08 you need to get rid of Tommy Robinson. So trying to get me sidelined from social media when I finally get a voice. So all these things with Nigel Freud, always been running away from, never wanting to be seen with us because we're extreme. Well, mate, your brand is as extreme now yourself. And do you know what?
Starting point is 00:15:23 They should have been there. Shame on GB News for not being in that courtroom today because let me tell you, there is so much to get into with this story. The madness in the government's written submission included the fact that Tommy was only relocated to HMP Woodhill from HMP Belmarsh after, quote, social media activity directed at the governor, who is a black woman.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I mean, that is a fact that should surely be a complete irrelevance to this. I think it was Ezra who actually summed up what he was witnessing in court, because sometimes you've got to be an outsider, you've got to be outside the country to understand how shocking what's happening really is. And he posted, I find this amazing. Everyone agrees that UK's prisons are out of control, are run by Islamic gangs and are violent places. It's just a given that's how it is. The government's main argument is that because they can't control their prisons, they have to lock Tommy up in a hole.
Starting point is 00:16:30 He then went on to say, seriously, just think about that. Not only is Tommy's life threatened by the lawless prisons, but the government says anyone who meets with Tommy is at risk too. I can't believe we're all just listening to this like it's normal. The UK is truly becoming a failed state. And I've already read one of the mainstream media reports, and they are focusing on completely the wrong thing, trying to make out as if Tommy's living some type of glorious life in prison. It's a joke. Now, as part of his submission, Tommy pleaded. He pleaded for this torture to end. He said he is terrified of the long-term consequences. He simply wants to leave prison mentally well and not mentally broken.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Any humane country, any humane government would give him that chance. Now, the superstar panel. Delighted to be joined today by the conservative YouTuber, Based and Bougie, and right-wing columnist, Sophie Kikorin. Now, Based in Bougie, you're a big Tommy Robinson supporter. What do you make of what happened in court today? All I have to say is, where was this energy for Hassan Sentimi? Where was this energy for Axel Radicabana? Where was this energy for the councillors who got caught red-handed kidnapping, drugging and SA-ing these 10 to 15 year old young white girls? Where was this energy? Why is this energy only being given to a journalist who simply reported facts? All
Starting point is 00:18:19 Tommy Robinson is guilty of is reporting the truth. And it actually makes me so angry because as an independent journalist myself, who is dedicated to reporting the truth and it actually makes me so angry because as an independent journalist myself who is dedicated to reporting the truth I really need people to understand that this is not just a threat to Tommy Robinson this is a threat to every single person's right to freedom of speech this is a threat to every single person's right to tell the truth this is a threat to every single person's right to state facts and And that's all Tommy Robinson is guilty of, stating the facts. And I think that his treatment is disgusting and it should wake up people's eyes to understand that we are currently living in a socialist Britain. This is a communist Britain.
Starting point is 00:18:57 The fact that you are being thrown, this is things that they used to do in Africa in the 60s. And yet they're doing it here in the UK and yet people are just sitting here worried about a black woman worried about the fact that he's a far right worried about the fact that he's speaking about Islam and not actually processing the fact that someone who simply uploaded a documentary is in solitary confinement this is not just a threat to Tommy Robinson this is a threat to everybody and everybody should be protesting and live it. Sophie Cacor, in your view? Yeah, I think you said something really important at the end of your speech there, Dan, is that
Starting point is 00:19:35 for a long time, people on the left wing, people from the Guardian, shall we say, have constantly banged on about prisons, you know, having to be a place of restoration, of rehabilitation. And they have these views of some of the people who are extremely extreme and who, in my view, are beyond salvaging. So why don't they express the same view towards Tommy Robinson? Why is it OK for a prison to be used in a way of punishment, but of severe punishment, one that is far more disproportionate perhaps than what it, well, I say perhaps, it's definitely far more disproportionate than what it needs to be. And secondly, it's rather hypocritical of them to have the view that prisons should be nice, it should be about rehabilitation and supporting. And as soon as it comes to Tommy
Starting point is 00:20:19 Robinson, be, you know, advocating policies that are beyond basic human rights and beyond what we pride ourselves on as a country and treating our prisoners fairly. He shouldn't be leaving prison mentally broken. That is not the point of prisons. And even those of us on the right who argue that prisons should be there for punishment for the people who are in more extreme cases, the left are consistently down our throat
Starting point is 00:20:41 saying that we're horrible people for thinking that. So why all of a sudden... And he is a civil prisoner, remember? Well, exactly. So why are they having these views? Not only are they having these views on Tommy Robertson, full stop, but the fact that he is only there for a civil matter makes it even worse. They're just hypocrites, aren't they, Dan? But as usual, we know that. I know, but the thing is, Basim Bougie, if you listen to Ezra Levant,
Starting point is 00:21:02 if you listen to Jordan Peterson, they know what's going on. And the Labour government are absolutely terrified of Tommy Robinson. So this is an opportunity to try and break him before his release. That's exactly what they are doing. The reason why Tommy Robinson is in jail right now because he's a threat he absolutely exposed how broken and corrupt our system is and what they are trying to do is they are trying to mentally torture him to the point of no return that's what they want because they know if they go in there and they do something to Tommy Robinson you know the whole country would riot but if they can mentally torture him to the point of no return
Starting point is 00:21:45 then that's when he will be silenced and to be honest this is why I am so proud of Tommy Robertson and this is why I will always always always support him because God knows how much mental torture he's going through but the fact that he's still able to hold up a sign basically saying haha my video is on 163 million views this is the type of person that should be tortured and i think that every single person should really be praying for tommy robinson that he does not allow this system to break him apart so we're two now sophie because whatever happens with this case case, Tommy Robinson will leave prison in a much enhanced position, given that Elon Musk, the world's richest man, a senior part of the Trump administration, is funding his legal costs. And not just for this case, by the way, also for the ridiculous case where he's being
Starting point is 00:22:40 charged under the Terrorism Act, which is just totally bonkers. So given that, how do you think not just the left of British politics, but the right of British politics should deal with Tommy Robinson? How should your party, Reform UK, deal with Tommy Robinson? How should Kemi Badenoch of the Conservative Party deal with Tommy Robinson? Can they just keep on ignoring him? What about the mainstream media? Should GB News have been in court today? Should Talk TV have been in court today? How can they just ignore this story? Well, look, I don't know why GB News and Talk
Starting point is 00:23:17 TV weren't there, because if the Guardian was there, for example, then GB News and Talk TV should have been there and should report on it in the way that they seem fit but you are right politicians can't ignore tommy robinson and it's not necessarily they can't ignore the person is that they can't ignore the political ideology and the political policies that are coming out of him and regardless of whether they chuck him in prison the labour government have failed in this they've failed because they try to use tommy robinson as an example and they try to use Tommy Robertson as an example. And they try to use, you know, Lucy Connolly, another one I've been really campaigning recently to set her free.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Because she, also like Tommy Robertson, does not belong in prison. But they try to use these people as an example. And then their own MP has just gone and got a suspended sentence for quite literally smashing someone up and beating him up and then he gets gets away with it and the public are fed up with this and it's come back to bite them in the back side because everyone can see that there's a two-tier justice system now so all it is doing is inflaming tensions even more and like i said you can't ignore the ideology they may be able to ignore tommy robinson as a person but they're not going to be able to ignore some of the views that he's put forward and i think addressing those views is important i don't
Starting point is 00:24:29 think people should keep on slagging tommy robinson off in a sense is he ever going to come into the political frame no but they need to be able to deal with some of the things he's suggesting and also they need to tackle this perception of a two-tiered justice system which is why to be honest it's in the government's favour, perhaps, to be open and honest about how badly they're treating him and how badly they've treated some of the other people in comparison to people who have their views. Face and Bougie, as Ezra Levent tweeted, four lawyers were there for the government today.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Four. And Ezra's summation is that to Ke starmer keeping tommy robinson in solitary confinement is a very high priority do you agree a hundred percent they are keeping him there in solitary confinement because they know that some tommy robinson for one is the only person that will tell the truth and expose what is going on in our very corrupt socialist system not only that but they know that Tommy Robinson can rally troops that is the power of Tommy Robinson he can rally a lot of people not because we are just a fan of Tommy Robinson but Tommy Robinson has the bravery and the courage to stick up for causes that a lot of people may be afraid
Starting point is 00:25:41 to stick up for or maybe may are afraid of being jailed for. So I feel as though, yes, they are keeping him in solitary confinement because they know the power that comes behind Tommy Robinson's name and his movement. I know, I know. It's just fascinating to me because, Sophie Kikorin, this is not where the independent media is just going to come through as well? The reason I wanted to be in court today, the reason why Ezra Levant literally flew on the red-eye flight overnight, he's heading back to the airport right now. But the reason he wanted to be here is you can no longer trust the mainstream media to even report on a court case.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And sure enough, the article that I read from the proceedings today suggested that Tommy is just having a nice life in prison. It's ludicrous. No, yeah, you're right. And Ezra's always been an absolute champion of an independent journalist. A few years ago, God, I can't remember when it was. It was quite a couple of years ago now. I went to Davos actually
Starting point is 00:26:45 with um it was during the pandemic because none of them were vaccinated so they weren't actually allowed to leave Canada so they had to send um those two Brits um two Americans uh one of them was Avi Yemeni and two uh sorry two Australians one of them Avi and two Americans and we all went to Davos with Ezra so he's been a real champion of independent journalism. He's someone that I think has really paced the way globally. And of course, independent journalism has become really important in the UK. But yeah, you can't trust the media.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And the public know that because we've seen things, like I said, like the two-tier justice system coming out. But I want to touch on the point what Basie and Bougie said, is that they're not doing it to Tommy because he's the only one that's going to break the silence. They're doing it because he is one of the most powerful. He's not the only one, but he's one of the most powerful.
Starting point is 00:27:30 And essentially what they're doing is they're trying to use him as an example in the sense that if we can do this to your king, if you like, then we can do it to you. If we can go after Tommy Robinson, if we can break this man, if we can shove him in solitary confinement, then we will do it to you. So you better shut your mouth, which is essentially what the government is aiming to do. They're trying to use Tommy Robertson to spread a message and say, if you do this, we can come after Tommy Robertson, we come after you, dear working class man in Newton. So you better be quiet and you better not say anything. Meanwhile, we're going to protect our neighbour councillor that's just beaten up one of
Starting point is 00:28:06 his constituents. And by the way, for all of those lefties who care all the time about mental health, well, all you need to do is listen to the report read out in court today to prove that what Tommy Robinson is being put through is having the most shocking impact on his mental health, causing ADHD, causing severe PTSD. But they don't give a damn about that because it's Tommy Robinson. And let me just repeat, where are the human rights lawyers? Where are the human rights lawyers that stick up all the time for terrorists, for rapists,
Starting point is 00:28:52 for murderers who are in this country illegally? But when it comes to Tommy Robinson, human rights go out the window. All of these lawyers who say things like, we have to defend people who we don't agree with. We have to defend foreign murderers. They have to be given a chance to stay in the United Kingdom. But when it's Tommy Robinson, they do not give a damn. Breaking right now, growing outrage that Netflix is trying to use the new drama Adolescence as a political movement to target white working class boys as all of the ills in Britain. Now, I need to take you through what's going on with this series quite honestly. And I will say from the start, I enjoyed the series. It's a beautiful piece of art.
Starting point is 00:29:55 No one is denying that. But what's happening now is that Netflix is trying to use this piece of art as some type of psyop to try and say that the issues in this country, the violence in this country, the threats to women in this country are being caused by young white men when the statistics prove that that is quite simply not true. Loads of evidence, by the way, about the fact that actually Netflix has based this story on truth, but changed the colour, the race, the ethnicity of the lead character. As Keith Woods put it, this is how Netflix portrays a 13-year-old knife murderer in the UK. Second image is the person it was based on. And that image is Hassan Tintakmu, who was jailed for murdering Eliane and Dan. Ian Miles wrote, Netflix has a show called Adolescence that's about a British knife killer who stabbed a girl to death on a bus and it's based on real life cases such as the Southport murderer.
Starting point is 00:31:08 So guess what? They race swap the actual killer from a black man migrant to a white boy and the story has it so he was radicalised online by the red pill movement. Just the absolute state of anti-white propaganda. Now as I say, I have absolutely no issue with a drama. Do whatever you want with a drama. If you want to make the white boy bad, that's your choice, Netflix. But this is already becoming more than a drama. This is becoming a political movement. And our foolish prime minister, our scumbag, slippery star in pmqs here saying the house of commons when he was asked about adolescence at one point suggested it was a documentary watch this everyone is talking about adolescence the series by nosely's own stephen graham and christine y series hwn gan Nôsly ei hun, Stephen Graham a Christine Tmarco. Mae'n arwain
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Starting point is 00:33:12 They are trying to use this to push a narrative. Side note, by the way, regular viewers who've followed Outspoken for a while should just put in your memory bank the fact that Slippery Starmer just said he had two children. We'll come back to that another day. But Sophie Kukoran has posted on this adolescence drama, why is the boy a young white boy? The boy the story was based on was not white. In addition to this, Afghans are 22 times more likely to be sex offenders. Foreign nationals are 71% more likely to be sex offenders. Stop blaming young white boys. Films like Adolescence are going to fuel misogyny, not help it. Demonizing young white boys when they're not the problem and have done nothing wrong will fuel
Starting point is 00:34:05 resentment, will fuel misogyny, and will give away to harmful actors becoming role models because the political class and media are ganging up on young white boys. It's spreading a harmful narrative. And I'm delighted to say Sophie is here alongside Based and Bougie. So Sophie, this is my problem. It's the fact that this isn't just being viewed as a drama. The creator, the writer, is specifically campaigning for this drama to take away our free speech as well. Yeah, so a lot of people are saying that this drama is great. But the reality is it's spreading a really dangerous message. And this dangerous message has been spread for the media for a long time.
Starting point is 00:34:48 It's a demonisation of young white boys. And we're seeing it in a whole host of matters, not just when it comes to sort of violence, but also when it comes to education and employment. Young white boys are consistently being demonised by the media. They're either called, you know, dangerous to women. They're all sex pests or they're all hyperprivileged. And this grouping of young white lads is extremely damaging. And what adolescence is essentially doing is basically saying, look at all these young white boys, they're all becoming radicalised by Andrew Tate and they're all violent. When in actual fact, because the media has persistently, persistently picked on young white lads,
Starting point is 00:35:27 has villainised young white boys who have done nothing wrong, many of whom are struggling themselves with issues, who aren't, you know, they don't have white privilege, they don't have all the things that the media is saying they do, they're not all sex pests, they're not all harassers, and the media are doing this to young white lads, and what's happening is these boys are then you know breeding resentment breeding anger thinking why the media
Starting point is 00:35:50 constantly picking on us why are we being picked on so then they're looking to people like andrew tate who perhaps are coming to be role models for them because they're being told they're too masculine they're too toxic they're violent they're this that and the other so they're then looking to these people and this is what is fueling misogyny this is what is fueling anger it's the media picking on young men blaming them for things that they haven't done they're saying that they are things that they are not and that then in turn is breeding anger amongst young men which then is going to fuel itself in potentially harmful acts against women so the media are doing a disservice to women they're spreading extremely violent narrative that is going to be very damaging in the in the long term in terms
Starting point is 00:36:35 of relations between men and women and it is simply not true it is not true white young boys are not the problem there is a problem that they don't want to address and they're blaming the problem on somebody else and they're looking and thinking oh why are they not happy about that because it's not them based in bougie where do you stand on netflix and adolescence yeah people keep saying that the show is promoting misogyny i actually disagree i think what the show is promoting is racism let me just quickly read you a statistic that was put out by gb news by the way so out of a thousand people who were arrested 209 people are albanian sorry out of a thousand people that are arrested 106 are afghans out of a thousand people that are arrested, 106 are Afghans. Out of a thousand people that are
Starting point is 00:37:25 arrested, 64 are Somalians. Out of a thousand people that are arrested, 12 are white British boys. So wait, if this is a documentary, they could have at least got the demographic correct, because if out of a thousand, there's only 12 people that are white people, how on earth is this a documentary? documentary yes this was a documentary in the sense that it was a story about i believe his name was hassan sentimu who slaughtered eliane may her soul rest in peace and the problem that i have with these shows is that they promote white hate this is just a perfect example another example actually of white hate meaning they keep pushing this hatred and this demonization
Starting point is 00:38:05 towards white people and i'm just not feeling and this is the same media that keeps talking about ending racism now let me make it very clear white the white race or the white culture is not superior the same way every other culture is not superior we both have our pros and we both have our cons in every culture however what i find to be very distasteful is the fact that they try to make it seem as though white culture has absolutely no pros sorry whilst also having all these people live in these very white countries is very contradictory so yes if this was going to be a documentary they should have at least got the demographic right and from what i read on the statistics it is um albanians and afghanistanis
Starting point is 00:38:46 who are actually making up percentage of arrests and crimes so why on earth would they get a white boy it makes no sense no it does make no sense but we know why they're doing it and again let me repeat my point if this was just a drama right and they just said we wanted to make a drama stephen graham said i wanted to make a drama. Stephen Graham said, I wanted to use a nuclear family in Liverpool because that's what I associate with. I would have been totally happy with that. No issues with that. But it's the fact that they are using this to change the law, to run a PSYOP. And we're not stupid. I mean, let me show you. I mean, of course, the British Bashing Corporation are all over this, totally all over this,
Starting point is 00:39:23 loving this, trying to change the law, having people talk about crying as men and masculinity on Newsnight last night. But watch this interview with the creator of the show and Stephen Graham specifically just admitting that they want to change the laws of the UK as a result of a drama which is not based on reality? You mentioned at the start of the interview, you hope people pay attention to this. Yes. So parents, teachers, government. Yes. What would you like them to pay attention to? Well, in Australia, they're doing this thing where they're implementing this digital age of consent and they're trying to, and that would mean preventing, making it the social CONSENT. THEY ARE TRYING TO, AND THAT WOULD MEAN PREVENTING, MAKING
Starting point is 00:40:05 IT THE SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PREVENT KIDS ACCESSING SOCIAL MEDIA UNTIL THEY ARE AGE 16. WE NEED TO BE DOING THE SAME HERE. RESEARCHING THE SHOW REQUIRED GOING INTO THE DARKEST HOLES OF
Starting point is 00:40:17 THE INTERNET. IT DOESN'T TAKE LONG TO ACCESS. AND THESE KIDS ARE BEING POLLUTED BY THIS STUFF. AND WE NEED TO STOP THAT POLLUTION. AND PARENTS CAN DO A LOT. SCHOOLS to stop that pollution. And parents can do a lot. Schools can do a lot.
Starting point is 00:40:27 But actually, I think as a parent of an almost nine-year-old, we need government to do something because they need to control the conversation on this one. There's that beautiful saying, it takes a village to raise a child. And Jack twisted that narrative a little bit. And Jack said, it also takes a village to destroy a child. So I think we need to, you know, we're all.
Starting point is 00:40:49 So Sophie Cacoran, always the case on the left. The solution is more regulation. The solution is a crackdown on freedom of speech. And that is why there is this big push by Labour to show this in Parliament, to show this in every school, demonise young white people, take away freedom of speech, while ignoring the elephant in the room about what type of groups in society actually cause the violence. Well, yeah, because it's easier for a government to pick on a small problem as opposed to a big problem. But even if we did deprive young people of social media, the young people aren't seeing that much violence on social media in comparison to the amount of things that they're seeing, where extremely prominent people in society are calling young people overprivileged, toxic, too masculine, too violent. This is what young boys are being fed and what they're going to
Starting point is 00:41:47 continue to be fed by this documentary and it's dangerous it's harmful this is a harmful message that we shouldn't be sending the young men in an equal sense that and this is what is breeding perhaps these people that become role models for example andrew tate and people like that who perhaps are you know the best role models for young boys to have. But the reason why they're looking for these role models is because they're persistently being told by people that they are wrong, that there is something wrong with them just because they happen to be young, white, working class boys. But as is always, let's just try and suppress free speech. Let's just try and hyper-regulate everything,
Starting point is 00:42:26 as opposed to tackling the real cultural issues. One is being the hatred towards men that is infested Western society and is becoming extremely dangerous and extremely toxic. And the second, of course, is the fact that actually a lot of this misogyny is coming from other cultures, cultures that perhaps shouldn't actually be welcomed in the UK. But because we'll tie ourselves in woke little knots by saying that, we're not actually going to tackle that issue as well.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Breaking right now, extraordinary leaked messages from Nigel Farage to the BBC suggest that the reason Rupert Lowe was axed from Reform UK was to do with the Daily Mail interview he gave rather than the claims against him, which, as you know, I think are spurious. This is a fascinating story. It has literally just broken on the BBC by its political editor, Chris Mason, and the presenter of Sunday, Laura Koonsberg. I want to take you through it because we're learning about this at the same time. But wow, unfortunately, it does back up what were a lot of my suspicions, including when I spoke to Rupert Lowe in the only interview he's given about all of this last Monday. So the BBC reports, Nigel Farage called the behaviour of suspended Reform UK MP Rupert Lowe disgusting and contemptible in private WhatsApp messages seen by the BBC.
Starting point is 00:44:08 In the messages sent after Lowe criticised Farage in a Daily Mail interview, the reform leader accused him of, quote, damaging the party just before the election. Now, it goes on to say that the series of messages between Farage and a long-time activist who has worked for Lowe in recent years reveals Farage's personal anger with contemptible. When asked by the activist why reform had not allowed a lawyer to complete an investigation before suspending him, Farage said because he is damaging the party just before elections. Disgusting. When it was suggested the investigation into Lowe was a response to his criticism of the leadership, Farage replied on WhatsApp, we are definitely damaged and within two weeks of nomination. Awful. Farage went on to say that the mail interview was a side issue and that the party had to investigate the claims against
Starting point is 00:45:17 Lowe, but the messages reveal a level of animosity between the suspended MP and his team and the Reform UK leadership. The BBC source is themselves the subject of a bullying investigation, which they strenuously deny. Now, there's much more to this story, which I'll come to shortly. But first, reaction to this from Reform UK member, former Tory, Sophie Corrin, and conservative YouTuber, Based and Bougie. So Based and Bougie, I suspected this. I suspected Farage's anger. I suspected that he knew that it was seriously damaging and that as a result, these sort of trumped up allegations against Rupert Lowe were used to finish him off yeah um Nigel Farage saying basically insinuating that Rupert Lowe is the reason why the reform party is um his reputation is being ruined I
Starting point is 00:46:20 personally find that to be a bit laughable. The only reason why the Reform Party's reputation is being ruined is because of Nigel Farage and his consistent backtracking, okay? I feel as though I used to be a supporter of Reform, but after this whole scandal, I've stopped supporting Reform because I feel as though Nigel Farage has a track record of consistently trying to ruin people's political career anytime they speak out against him now if reform is supposed to be the party of great britain and great britain stands for democracy and freedom of speech surely you should be allowed for people to be able to criticize you and your leadership nine times out of ten they are probably criticizing you because they have your best interest at heart but anytime anyone says anything against niger farage whether it's ben habib whether it's
Starting point is 00:47:05 rupert lowe their um political career just automatically just gets ruined online but the thing is that people or reform used to realize is that the public we are paying attention to this you know we don't care about niger's popularity or who he knows or how much power we have what the public cares about is character and for niger Farage to go as far as calling him a bully first of all Rupert Lowe looks like a big old teddy bear how can he be a bully for him to go as far as saying that he has dementia dementia why would you even have someone in your party who has dementia that is absolutely insane character to me is everything and I feel as though niger faraj's character is what is leading to the the bad um a representation of the reform party and not necessarily rupert lowe
Starting point is 00:47:53 sophie kakoran rupert lowe has actually just given a statement to the bbc on these messages as i say i'm getting this in for the first. I know you're hearing this for the first time too, so let me read it to you. Rupert Lowe has told the BBC, Farage has admitted himself in writing that the motivation behind my removal was the Daily Mail interview in which I raised reasonable and constructive questions of reform structure, policy and communication following months of pushing for change behind the scenes. That interview is why they designed and launched their horrific smear campaign against my name. It is evil behaviour. Nigel Farage must never be Prime Minister. All I have done is tell the truth and I will continue to do so. So, whoa, whoa, Sophie, this is a real escalation because it looked a couple of days ago like Farage might even consider maybe changing his mind on
Starting point is 00:48:55 Rupert Lowe. But the fact that Rupert Lowe has now called him evil or said that it is evil behaviour and said Nigel Farage must never be prime minister, Well, there's no way back here, is there? There's no reconciliation coming. No, and I don't think so. And I think there's been a lot of people that have put a lot of emphasis of blame on Rupert Lowe saying that he shouldn't be responding publicly.
Starting point is 00:49:15 But ultimately, if someone drags your name through the mud publicly, in my view, you have a right to respond. And look, I'm a young girl in reform. I also have a learning disability so I care very much about the content of the alleged bullying you know if he was a misogynist if he you know did make these sorts of comments I of course wouldn't support him but I have spoken to Rupert though after and I have complete faith in him that he is not that way
Starting point is 00:49:40 inclined at all in actual fact I've worked it with alongside many politicians and there's probably no I don't think there's any politician that I feel safer being with than Rupert Lowe in terms of being a nice person and and keeping me safe so in my character it was a complete defamation of character and the problem with this is that when people criticize Nigel Farage I don't ever think about him when other people do. Oh, that's why he can't be a good prime minister. But seeing the way he takes criticism is what makes me question whether he would or wouldn't. Not the fact that people criticise him. And I'm a member of Reform and I really want Reform to succeed.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And there's obviously, with all new parties, there's going to be sort of difficult difficult parts of the party you know with with the vetting the over centralization of reform but anytime you criticize things or even have a problem or even say oh you know are the leaflets going to be arriving next week or not you feel almost like you have to consistently look over your shoulder i mean i never thought i would fear feel fear of being in a party that values free speech, like they do in reform and think, what if I say the wrong thing and get chucked out? What if I accidentally criticise a branch chair for not doing the right thing or a candidate for having a messy campaign? What if I do that and they're going to throw me out? Oh, you know, I never expected to join a political party that has, you know, valued free speech as much as it said it's had and
Starting point is 00:51:05 and then feel scared almost of saying the wrong thing and being thrown out if i even you know the lightest of criticisms to the party and the problem is is that the reason one of the reasons that i had a problem with the conservative party is because they you know they were imposing candidates they were just putting their mates in seats that they shouldn't have been they weren't listening to the feedback of the members which essentially is what drove the party into oblivion because if the leadership of the party actually listened to the people i don't think the tories would have got themselves in the state that they were in and the same thing is happening to reform they're imposing candidates some of them don't even live in the places that they're going to be
Starting point is 00:51:41 um there's no democracy in the branch structure. They say they've got branches, but all of them are run centrally. And if they want to just get rid of the branch leaders that they can do, everything is so hyper-centralised. Everything is run almost like a dictatorship, far worse than the Conservatives was. And I understand some of the reasoning behind it
Starting point is 00:51:59 because they're worried that they're going to get these infiltrators and all this. But nonetheless, you can't really run a political party in that way. And the reasons why we criticise the Tory party and the reason why the Tory party ended up facing oblivion was for the exact problems that reform have got now. Now, there's a bit more in terms of this Great Yarmouth investigation, which has been going on within reform. So the whole idea is that it's been made to look as if Rupert Lowe himself was a bully, which he obviously strongly, strongly denied to me. So let me take you through this.
Starting point is 00:52:34 The BBC has spoken to several members of Rupert Lowe's team. Among them are people who have worked alongside Nigel Farage for years and admired him. But many are now deeply critical. One said, Nigel is thin-skinned and egotistical. I have spent years defending him, but the aura has gone for me now. Reporting Rupert to the police? Come on, they're trying to put him in prison. The staff member went on to claim that the route of this whole row was Elon Musk's praise for Lowe on X, saying Nigel is very sensitive about his American contacts. Another staffer said it is absolutely terrible, the party going to the police. You'd never find someone more kind and considerate than Rupert. If you don't have the policies as a party, you're a joke.
Starting point is 00:53:20 And that is what Rupert was pointing out. And the BBC says that it has also seen evidence of lengthy and detailed exchanges between Lowe's officers and Parliament's human resources team over the alleged conduct and subsequent departures of two members of staff. So based in Bougie, it does look to me like these were trumped up charges. I said it at the time. And by the way, I have been so supportive of reform in lots of ways. However, I am a journalist. I have to do my job. I have to report on what's really going on. And I can't stand by and see a good man like R the first thing I think to myself is that something is being hidden. Something is being hidden. And I think that's exactly what's happening with Rupert Lowe. I think something must have happened that Reform is trying to hide.
Starting point is 00:54:15 And I am just like you said, you're an independent journalist. I'm an independent journalist myself. Although Reform is a very powerful party and has a lot of potential character is everything to me and for you to be a party that stands for freedom of speech but at the same time go online and complain about bullying bullying i'm not being funny but this is politics we are constantly bullying each other we are constantly throwing jabs and punches with each other with our words that's the whole point of politics not only that but if they can't take a bunch of hurty words how are they actually going to be able to handle the big things ahead of them for example russia trump mass migration the islam sorry the islamification of the uk
Starting point is 00:54:56 there are so many big problems ahead of them but yet they are here whining about bullying that does not make me trust in the reform party and does not make me trust in Nigel Farage. And like I said, everything to me, character is everything to me. And I feel as though this has made me sway way more towards UKIP than Reform because Nigel Farage's character, I'm seeing a very egotistical, narcissistic person
Starting point is 00:55:22 who just can't take criticism. I'm sorry, Nigel. Sophie, any regrets from you? Or are you going to stick by reform? I mean, kind of, because, you know, reform sort of presented itself as a party that really loves free speech. And the problem with this thing with Rupert, and it makes me aware of a lot of the members as well,
Starting point is 00:55:44 if they can do that to Rupert Lowe, and a little bit like what I said with Tommy Robinson if they can do that to one of their five MPs and one of their most popular MPs what are they going to do to ordinary members like ourselves do you know what I mean we're activists we're volunteers we just do it because we love to because we want to save our country we don't we don't want anything out of this I'm not an MP I don't want to be mp um so what's going to stop them doing that to us you know and the treatment of members was something i was really critical of the conservative was about and i'm equally as critical of reformers about us i don't want to be a party where i feel like i'm looking over my shoulder every five seconds if i you know
Starting point is 00:56:19 accidentally criticize someone too much i might be thrown out or equally if I have a tweet that gets a lot of likes they might start disliking me because you know there is a what an impression of perhaps jealousy coming from certain people who are informed what if they set their sights on me you know I have a big twitter platform is that is the same going to happen to me you know I just I just want to volunteer I just want to deliver leaflets and help my local community and help help my area that's why I'm in politics I've done this commentary stuff for a long time but for the whole time of doing it I've remained an activist and probably knocked on more doors and delivered more leaflets than pretty much anyone else in this country because it's my absolute passion but it does
Starting point is 00:56:57 concern me and we talk about bullying Dan the only bullying I've seen here are people who are willing to throw a 70 year old man under the drag his reputation, say that he's got dementia because he dared to question them, or perhaps because he got the support of someone big. of power as a leader of a party to shut down any valid criticism and in doing so trying to destroy a man's reputation that my friend is what bullying really is not what Rupert Lowe has been accused of there is bullying and unquestionable bullying but it is not from Rupert Lowe wow very strong words from Sophie Kikoran and based and Bougie, my superstar panel. Don't go anywhere, though. They're back in just one minute on this extraordinary attack. And by the way, I'm cheering her on. J.K. Rowling has finally gone for those little weasels, those little Harry Potter weasels who turned on her. If you don't know what I'm talking about, stand by because I'm going to reveal all in just
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Starting point is 01:00:19 J.K. Rowling has called out those awful little Harry Potter weasels. Do you know who I'm talking about? Emma Watson, Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint. Pretty talentless actors who owe their entire career and the fact that they are now worth millions and millions of pounds to the Harry Potter author, but brutally turned on her. Brutally turned on her because she was prepared to say that you can only be a woman if you're a woman. Because she was prepared to stand up against the trans madness. Now, JK has launched her attack, which by the way,
Starting point is 01:01:02 I think is beautiful because it's done in such a funny, lighthearted way on X. Someone called Wolf of X asked Ms. Rowling, which actor or actress instantly ruins a movie for you? And she replied, three guesses. Sorry, but that was irresistible. Of course, the trans extremists have come for her. They always do. 192,000 likes for someone called Megs, who said Daniel Radcliffe and Rupert Grint are fathers. Emma Watson is doing a master's at Oxford. Dan won a Tony last year. Rupert did a critically acclaimed Apple TV series. Emma started a business with her brother. Meanwhile, you're a weird lady obsessed with people's genitals, Joanne. How despicable. They still do not get it.
Starting point is 01:01:55 But my superstar panel do. Let me bring in the YouTube sensation, Based and Bougie, and the conservative columnist and commentator Sophie Kikoran based and bougie I say call those little brats out because they would have no career if it wasn't for JK Rowling I absolutely agree all three of those weasels would not have a career would not have a job would not even have money in bank account if it wasn't for miss jk rowling now i have a lot of respect for miss jk rowling because she put her um career on the line by stating a fact that has been known since adam and eve a man is a man and a woman is a woman nowhere in the bible does it say adam and steve it says adam and eve okay and i find it so
Starting point is 01:02:41 interesting that someone tweeted that jk rowling is so obsessed with people's genitals and this is what i find so hilarious about the trans community right they say that we are so obsessed with their private parts but yet they had to castrate their private parts to validate the fact that they are a woman or a man surely if sex has no real meaning and and gender is just so fluid since that's what they like to say, then surely you wouldn't have to castrate yourself. But they did. So this is just another, you know, contradiction and just a laughable contradictory of the trans community. They are an embarrassment, in my opinion. Sophie Kikorin, is she being unfair on these brats? Oh, no, perfectly not.
Starting point is 01:03:28 And it's so laughable to me to see the way that, you know, the trans activists refer to Jacob Rowling, oh, well, you're just a woman here. I'm like, are you OK? Because this woman is like one of the most successful British authors in history. She has got one of the most remarkable stories I have ever heard in terms of she's come from absolutely nothing she's struggled unbelievably she's had to work extremely hard to get where
Starting point is 01:03:52 she is and she's one of the most remarkable people I think and she's a real she is someone who first of all I mean why is she not you know even more lauded in society than she already is but nonetheless she's someone who this country should be incredibly proud of who the left should be incredibly proud of i mean she's an absolutely miraculous story in every way and they're sitting here oh you're just this i mean mate you're sitting in your mum's basement writing comments to jk rowling meanwhile she is one of the best authors we've ever had i mean mean, have a laugh, first of all, have a laugh. But secondly, she's an absolute queen. And not only has she built up this amazing career
Starting point is 01:04:33 off of the back of absolutely nothing, she's then put all of that on the line to do the right thing. I mean, she is a phenomenal person in absolutely every single way, shape or form. She's extremely humble. She's extremely talented. She's shape or form she's extremely humble she's extremely talented she's extremely smart she's extremely brave and these people that are sitting in their mum's basement on the twitter writing mean tweets to jk rowling who doesn't even give a shit that they exist it is it's quite special to me yeah and anytime any of those trolls talk
Starting point is 01:05:01 about the legacy she's like i don't care about legacy. I don't care because all she cares about is protecting the safety and the rights of biological women. And my God, the scumbags have been out for her this week. The absolute scumbags. Now, there's a rapper. I mean, I have to say I'm not big into rap. Azealia Banks, did I say it right? Does anyone know?
Starting point is 01:05:21 Yeah. Is that how you say it? Now, she posted the most revolting message to JK Rowling, saying maybe her husband at 27 cheated on her with a trannylicious diva. And that's why she's dedicated every waking moment to harassing people who make up less than 1% of the global population. JK Rowling, who always owns these idiots, replied, it's a matter of public record that my first husband beat me up. But you got the likes, Azealia, and I hope they were worth it. What a good point, based on Bougie. I think Azealia Banks, she's an embarrassment.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I mean, her career is struggling. She's talentless. I believe she's on drugs. And I feel like what she does is she has to attack people just to bring her name back into the limelight. And for her to say that she's obsessed with people who are part of the 1%. And this is what I mean when I say the trans community are so annoying in the sense that why does making a comment saying that a woman is a woman mean that I am obsessed with you nobody cares about you for instance there was a situation where a woman created an only a woman's only gym and she got death threats from the trans community who basically
Starting point is 01:06:40 are saying they're not a threat to women in an only gym, but at the same time threatening people online, saying that this woman that created the women's only gym is obsessed with them. No, you are obsessed with us. And I just feel as though Azealia Banks, she's an embarrassment and she's trying her hardest to cling on to the very little clout that she has. And then it got worse. Then it got worse. One of the worst people in the united kingdoms she actually made my top 10 of the 50 worst people in the uk today by the way i will
Starting point is 01:07:16 be updating my list very shortly subscribe on my sub stack www.outspoken.live if you want to get it first because it's coming next month. But one of the people on that list last year was India Willoughby. Oh, the state of it. Yeah, I mean, just a revolting human being on every possible level, right? And India Willoughby decided to weigh in on the Cecilia Banks versus J.Kk rowling row and what she said i think should surely disqualify from anyone ever taking her seriously as a decent person again indy willoughby wrote to jk rowling this is about the abuse by the way about the abuse your first husband denies your
Starting point is 01:08:00 version of events he admits he slapped you which is obviously totally unacceptable but he says there was no sustained abuse he also denies your claims he threatened to burn your harry potter manuscript only you two know what actually happened but his account is very different to yours and india willoughby received quite, a strong response from Graham Linehan on that, a man who lost his whole career for standing up for the rights of biological women. And he wrote, hey, India Willoughby, you are a disgusting man. India Willoughby decided to hit back again, saying, lol, TERFs are incredibly aggressive and nasty. Check out any of their accounts. Then look at how many see as women are now being attacked or humiliated as a direct
Starting point is 01:08:51 result of the illogical hate they have fanned. You're a bigoted man. Go watch Andrew Tate or Donnie Trump. But what I find so ironic there, Sophie Kikorin, is she, J.K. Rowling, is the one who was abused. And India Willoughby, because she is so far down the rabbit hole, or he is so far down the rabbit hole, sorry, wants to now question J.K. Rowling's very, very real story. I just think it says it all about these trans activists. Yeah, I mean, I found it funny where she was being aggressive
Starting point is 01:09:32 towards JK Rowling and basically saying you're lying about domestic abuse. And then, you know, Graham Lillohan replies and he's like, oh, but they're so aggressive. Why are they always coming to me?
Starting point is 01:09:42 I think basically she made a really good point in saying that they are obsessed with us. I don't think that they're obsessed with us. I but they're so aggressive, why are they always coming to me? I think, basically, you made a really good point in saying that they are obsessed with us. I don't think that they're obsessed with us. I think they're obsessed with themselves. They feel like they're more important than they actually are, because literally no one cares about India or Libya at all. But they have such an inflated sense of self-importance
Starting point is 01:10:00 that they believe that their rights should trump everybody else, and that they can be as aggressive to whoever they want. as soon as you even turn around and say actually mate you're a bit of a bloke to be fair they all listen you know act as if i've just chopped their leg off it's absurd you know they give it but they can't take it these these these trans activists also they're deeply hypocritical a lot of them claim to be left-wing and if you're left-wing what do you think you should champion social mobility overcoming barriers women's rights all of those things that jk rowling is and all of those people are not yeah well based on bougie all i would say is that in new willoughby i agree with graham lenehan is a very very troubled man yeah you see the fingers of the trans community i think people would like them more if they just
Starting point is 01:10:45 shut up honestly i think their problem is they have such nasty characters it's not necessarily the fact that they've changed they look or pretend to be a man or woman it's they nasty hypocritical characters the trans community are all saying my truth this my truth that but when jk rowling tells her truth which was her husband hit her, they are now telling her that her truth may not actually be her truth. And when it's dished back by them, by us telling them that your truth is you're actually a man, they're saying, well, you are so disgusting. You are so mean. They just, they are obnoxious. They are annoying. And like Sophie said, they love themselves too much. They hold themselves as such a high pedestal.
Starting point is 01:11:23 And I want to tell every trans person, we do not care about you thank you yeah go and go go and live your own life exactly but do not do not try and take away the rights of women which have been fought for over the past century, hard fought for. So do not take them away and do not brutalize and destroy the English language because I'm not playing your games anymore. India Willoughby, Sam Smith, Dylan Mulvaney. Sorry, I'm out. I played your games for a little while because I wanted to be nice, but not anymore, especially given your side of the argument is particularly vile. But I love you two together.
Starting point is 01:12:15 So much positive feedback always about this brilliant duo of powerful young female talent. Based in Bougie. Sophie Cacora of my superstar panel. Make sure you follow them both all over social media because they are brilliant. Now, thank you for your company too, but don't go anywhere because the Union Jackass and Greatest Britain reveal is coming up in just one moment. But wow, so much amazing feedback from you today.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Thank you so much to Bill Cotter, who joined Outspoken Plus. Always really appreciate that. On the issue of Tommy Robinson, Paul wrote, surely Trump should give Tommy political asylum in the USA. What an embarrassment to free speech starmer that would be. I mean, yes, but I don't get the sense Tommy wants to leave, particularly. Iza Ryan said, well said, Dan. The MSM, including GB News, should be ashamed. And they should be because they were not there today. Kath Listenden said, Tommy is a political prisoner. He is no different, or sorry, this is no different to when people screamed and shouted about Mandela. On adolescence, this Netflix drama,
Starting point is 01:13:27 Basil Hill 21, said, does Stammer not think we should be asking questions about the toxic misogyny in the religion of peace, Islam? Indeed, I'd love to see a drama about that, but it would never happen. Coffee Guy 66 said, yes, a black female student punched another pupil to the ground in the drama and nothing happened to her.
Starting point is 01:13:48 3243 said, Adolescents on Netflix is a 15. Why is Starmer allowing his 14-year-old daughter to watch this? Someone's not following the rules. And I thought, yeah, that's a very, very good point. And on Reform and these dramatic leaked messages to the bbc bluebell wrote farage deflects and throws everyone under the bus to try and save himself joe vickers says if brits want conservative labor back in power continue doing their job for them by knocking reform back rupert
Starting point is 01:14:20 and ben and even vote for them and put the uni party back in power. So Joe is very much on the side of Farage and Reform UK. Ronald David Woods says Elon Musk had Nigel Farage sussed and rightly backs Rupert Lowe and Tommy Robinson. And Zippy Doolittle said my heart breaks for Sophie, meaning Sophie Cacorum. As I begged for her to join Reform, now I'm sorry I did. Reform are not a political party. They are a company with CEOs and managers bullying the shareholders. Wow, Zippy. So that's a thing. We're very divided on this. I understand the division, by the way. And let me just repeat, because I say this all the time. I am an independent journalist, but I always am honest with you about where I stand.
Starting point is 01:15:11 And I voted for Reform UK at the last election, and I was the first to predict that Nigel Farage would be prime minister by 2029. But at the same time, if I see something horrific going on, I have to report it. And I have to be honest with you about it, because that's what I do. And that's what I pledged to you. And what happened to Rupert Lowe? It's just so bad. And unfortunately, I knew there would be huge repercussions. And surprise, surprise, there are. Okay, Greatest Britain Union Jackass time. Quick reminder of your nominees for Union Jackass. Nicola Marfleet, nominated by Ian O'Shoes for the outing, sorry, sorry, for the cutting of Tommy Robinson's phone call today with his defence team. Shabnam Mahmood, the Justice
Starting point is 01:15:46 Secretary nominated by It's Only Me 44 for saying that dangerous prisons must be released, is this Labour's plan to get more votes? And Kim Leadbetter, nominated by Malwella 3 for trying to bulldoze through the assisted suicide bill, which will affect everyone. Okay, the votes are in. Kim Leadbetter got 8% of your vote in third position. In the runner up position, Nicola Marfleet, the governor of Woodhill. But the Justice Secretary Shabnam Amood, today's union jackass with 53% of the vote. So you know what we do? It's Thursday. This is really exciting because we've got new folk today what we do is we put our union jackasses from across the week to the vote in a mega poll which you can find in
Starting point is 01:16:34 my post section on youtube not quite yet because obviously we've just revealed who thursday's union jackass was but i'll do it very soon after the show. And they go to the vote. And tens of thousands of you usually vote on this. So quick reminder of the union jackasses that will be going head to head this week from Monday, the off communists, from Tuesday, Nadine Dorries, from Wednesday, Prince Harry, from Thursday, Shabnam Amud. And on tomorrow's show, I will reveal who is the worst Britain in the world this week. But congratulations to our honorary greatest Briton today. It's Israel Avant, who I spoke to earlier in the show, nominated by Gav Foster too.
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