Dan Wootton Outspoken - TOMMY ROBINSON “DIRTY SMEAR MERCHANT” LIB DEM ROW ERUPTS AS BBC STAR DEFENDS SHAMIMA BEGUM

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

BREAKING TODAY: Tommy Robinson urged to sue Liberal Democrat deputy Daisy Cooper who he has branded a “dirty smear merchant” as she repeated her PMQs attack in parliament yesterday on LBC radio, opening the door for legal action. Of course, the Unite the Kingdom activist is not a racist as anyone who has done a scrap of their own research can attest. Dan will reveal the evidence. But of course calling out the Islam threat to the UK doesn’t make you racist but rather a patriot, as yet more shocking cases emerge. Yet with all this going on, ex-flagship BBC News presenter Mishal Husain has decided to launch a valiant defence of ISIS bride Shamima Begum, who she claims was treated poorly by the MSM because she was a Muslim. Rather than because she was a terrorist traitor unconcerned by beheadings… Dan explains why the elite class are so out of touch with the real threat to the UK in the Digest next. Then the Superstar Panel weigh in: Reform’s Epping pink lady leader Orla Minihane and Lee Harris, the independent reporter of Addicted2News. PLUS: Green Party leader Zack Polanski is finally destroyed on live TV as Jeremy Vine makes the mistake of putting the liberal favourite on the same panel as Carole Malone. AND: Keira Knightley laughs off the JK Rowling trans backlash in further proof the woke mob are losing. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Lady Colin Campbell is unleashed after Meghan Markle made a host of gaffes during her latest on stage appearance in Washington DC. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Smith, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This is outspoken episode number 338. And breaking today, Tommy Robinson urged to sue Liberal Democrat Deputy Daisy Cooper, who he has branded a dirty smear merchant, as she repeated her PMQ's attack in Parliament yesterday on LBC Radio, opening the door for legal action. But it is not just the Chinese government that is a threat to our country. On Monday, the far-right racist hate preacher Tommy Robinson, who is currently on trial for allegedly refusing to comply with counter-terror police. I stood up for my values today. I don't like seeing racism in our society.

I don't like seeing far-right extremists causing violence on our streets. Of course, Tommy Robinson is not a racist as anyone who has done a scrap of their own research can attest. And I felt let down by the people that in the organisation that were in positions, the same people that are calling me a traitor now, that were in positions invited Nazis to stand with them in the street. Now, I am the public face. It's my face that is up for this. I have to be true to myself.

I despise Nazis. I despise racism. You see the elderly, you see the young, the beautiful young women, all of them. They're not fighting the war. None of these people, look. So you see that, and it just brings it home. But of course, calling out the Islam threat to the UK, doesn't make you racist, but rather a patriot, as yet more shocking cases emerge.

Slim Seeker laughed and danced after stabbing a worker in his migrant hotel to death, a court has heard. A moment, two men tried to kidnap a teenager from a busy city centre street in broad daylight. He didn't like this hotel and he wanted to be moved. So because he got frustrated and found that the process was taking too long, this was his method of speeding up process, coating this rather nice four-star hotel room in green paint. So can you believe with all of this going on, the ex-flagship BBC news presenter, Michelle Hussein, has decided to launch a valiant defence of wait for it, ISIS bride Shemima Begham, who she claims was treated poorly by the MSN because she was a Muslim,

rather than because she was a terrorist traitor unconcerned by beheadings. And I'll share an example here of someone for whom I think it is worth asking the question, would she have been perceived exactly the same way if she'd had a different name had not been Muslim? Why the elite class are so out of touch about the real threat to the UK in my digest next, then the superstar panel are here. Today, reformed Epine, pink lady leader, Ola Minnie Hayne and Lee Harris, the independent reporter of Addicted to News. Also coming up on the show today,

Green Party leader Zach Kalanski finally destroyed on live TV as Jeremy Vine makes the mistake of putting the Liberal favourite on the same panel as Carol Malone. You've got to see this. Karenightly laughs off the JK Rolling Trans backlash in further proof the woke mob are losing

and King Charles and Prince William are at loggerheads over Prince Andrew as Virginia Dufray haunts the disgraced duke from beyond the grave with the release of her bombshell autobiography causing utter horror for the royal family. I'm going to take you through it. Then in the uncanceled after show on Substack, Lady Colin Campbell is standing by. She will be unleashed after Megan Markle made a host of gaffs

during her latest on stage appearance in Washington, D.C. I'm very much looking forward to having Lady C. Back on the after show, you can sign up www. outspoken. live. Before the end of the main show, though, we're revealing today's Greatest Britain and Union Jackass. You can vote for the worst Britain in the world today in the live chat on YouTube right now. Here are your nominees. Rachel from Accounts, nominated by Real Mick Cass for finally admitting what we already knew. She's about to raise taxes for working people breaking a major Labour manifesto pledge.

Jess Phillips, nominated by Blamegay, who says after intense public pressure, Labor government promised a national inquiry into grooming gangs in June of this year. So why has the minister responsible for the safety of women and girls, Jess Phillips, made zero progress? Why indeed? And Nina Mishkoff, nominated by Drew 59 Blue, who says Nina is a prime example of why this country is in such a state. She blames our pensioners, Brexit, etc., for our increasing debt, but thinks that all the illegals cost us is next to nothing, another champagne socialist who doesn't give a damn what happens to the rest of us. Okay, so three women going head to head to be named our union jackass today.

Get voting, keep your feedback coming in throughout the show, and do stick with us today. I will reveal the winner before we go tonight. But now, let's go. Britain is facing a holy war in the next decade. as liberals allow Islam to take over our biggest cities, putting our future as a Christian country under serious threat. But a decision has been made by the deep state and by the elite class to pretend this isn't happening. And when someone points it out, they will deride them as a far-right racist. And if they become too powerful, they will simply designate them an enemy, then a criminal.

and eventually, as we're currently seen with Tommy Robinson, a terrorist. The mainstream media has always played along. And that's why we now have two versions of the United Kingdom. Those who watch the independent media in shows like this, who understand the Unite the Kingdom activist is a patriot like you or me fighting to the death to save our dying nation. Then we have the others who rely on the British Passion Corporation, Wokai TV, and Sly News,

which ignore the threat of Muslims and constantly lie about a non-existent far-right. Their heroes are women like this. But it is not just the Chinese government that is a threat to our country. On Monday, the far-right racist hate preacher Tommy Robinson, who is currently on trial for allegedly refusing to comply with counter-terror police, claimed that his legal costs are being paid by Elon Musk. It is outrageous that a man who has so much control over what people read online every day could be funding someone who stokes far-right extremism on our streets.

If this was Putin, the government surely would act. So will the Prime Minister commission the security services to assess the threat that Elon Musk poses to our democracy and recommend measures to this House that we can take to stop it? Well, I can tell her we do look across the board at threats to our democracy and must continue to do so. I won't comment on the particular case given the state of legal proceedings.

Now, Ms. Cooper was protected there by parliamentary privilege, of course, but she stupidly then went on LBC and repeated her slanderous libel. Tommy Robinson has responded to your question with an expletive, laden series of tweets and attacks on you personally.

Do you worry that you're getting into something that's going to be quite nasty, a fight that's going to be very difficult? Look, I stood up for my values today. I don't like seeing racism in our society. I don't like seeing far-right extremists causing violence on our streets. And those are the things that I wanted to speak up for.

I'm elected to do that, elected on that platform, and I'm encouraged by the messages of support that I've received from MPs of all political parties and from people from various groups that campaign against racism who have said that they felt that today I said something that they consider to be brave and courageous and quite frankly I think we need to see more bravery and courage in our politics. Now Tommy responded to that, wrote writing on X,

calling out this lying, slandering piece of shit for who she is. Politicians think they can be above contempt. They are not. Contempt in this case is fully justified, deserved even. politicians think they can lie and slander someone using their parliamentary privilege and get away with it. News flash, they can't. Politicians think they can cry victim after instigating very mild pushback from a working class lad. I don't give a shit about you. You're a cry, bully and filthy smear merchant.

Ask why Daisy, the deputy leader of the Lib Dems, has not posted about grooming gangs operating in the UK, except for when Elon Musk brings attention to it. And rather than post about this stain on our nation, she opts to criticise Elon for daring to speak out, accusing him of wanting attention, off the back of child sexual exploitation. What a filthy piece of shit she is. Her values have led to the industrialised rape and enslavement of generations of British children. But I can tell it is the racist claim that has upset Tommy Robinson the most. So he asked Grock for the truth. This was the reply. After searching Tommy Robinson's posts for racist content via web queries, none appear.

His critiques focus on Islamist ideology, grooming gangs and migrations, cultural effects, not racial inferiority. He often highlights anti-white racism or hypocrisy in accusations against him. Specific examples of prejudice based on race rather than behavior remain elusive, despite frequent media claims. He sent that to Daisy Cooper and added anything to say, you filthy smear merchant. Now, it's important we're honest about what is happening here, and I think Bruce unfiltered summed it up very well. By writing, let's be clear, what Daisy Cooper said in Parliament is dangerous. She effectively implied Tommy Robinson shouldn't be allowed a legal defense unless it's government approved. That's authoritarianism in a nutshell. Under UK law,

every person has the right to a fair trial and to appoint or receive legal assistant from whoever they choose. Nothing in the legal aid, sentencing and punishment of Offenders Act 2012, the Legal Services Act 2007 or the proceeds of Crime Act 2002 gives the government any power to restrict who can fungial defence unless that money comes from criminal activity. Elon Musk hasn't broken a single law, but Daisy Cooper's words break with the very foundation of British justice, equality before the law. Indeed, Bruce believes the entire terror trial of Tommy Robinson is a chilling development for a country where our democracy is now online. Either you like him or not, this one should set alarm bells ringing.

because this isn't really about Tommy Robinson at all. It's about what happens when the state decides who it wants to target. When the state starts using counterterrorism powers on people it politically disagrees with, that is outright authoritarianism. And if it can happen to one person, regardless of your opinion of them, it can happen to absolutely anybody. But I think we've already seen some cases of this. The prosecution claimed the stop wasn't about his views,

but his supposed far-right associations. yet they didn't name a single individual, and funnier enough, in today's climate, that could have been any one of 20 million people. Because once you give the state the power to decide who's extreme, who's dangerous, or who deserves scrutiny, it is only a matter of time before that label lands on ordinary people who simply disagree. The case has been adjourned until November 4th,

when the verdict will be handed down. And let's be honest, the outcome will tell us a lot about where Britain really stands on liberty, in 2025. This isn't about defending one man. It's about defending the principle that no government should have the power to criminalize opinion.

Now, remember outside of the UK, Tommy is viewed very differently. I mean, overnight, he's just been given a hero's welcome. In Israel, where he is on a state visit as a guest of a sound Israeli minister. How are you feeling?

I'm happy to be here, mate. I'm honored to be here. What are you hoping from this trip? I'm hoping to show solidarity with real strong leadership. I wish our country had a leader like Netanyahu. We have weak cowards. Our government have recognised a terrorist state and that government are not elected on a mandate.

They are elected with 20% of the public votes. I don't want people in Israel to think that the other 80% of people, not even the majority of Labour, support them, support recognising a terrorist state. So I'm here to show solidarity with the Jewish people and the Israeli people. for a strong and hopefully form good friendships and understand because Israel is surrounded by jihad.

Britain is going to be surrounded by jihad. The problems that Israel faces here are the same problems that we're going to face. So the security issues that Israel has and Jews have in the state of Israel, we're all going to face in Europe. Shear numbers. Because you hear the numbers, don't you? But when you see that and you see an individual face and you think about an individual family

and you think about the individual children or the mum and dad and you see the scale of that and then you know the size of Israel you know that every single person must have known someone that was directly affected as a family as a community by this attack and then you see so many like as you walk around you see the elderly you see the young the beautiful young women all of them they're not they're not fighting a war none of these people look so you see that and it just brings it home. Now, I would argue that's a humanitarian, not a racist, hate preacher. There was a time you might remember it many moons ago. Before the MSM stopped platforming people

like myself, Katie Hopkins and Tommy Robinson, where he was allowed to speak openly on the state broadcast to the British Bashing Corporation to the chief interrogator Jeremy Paxman no less and explain his journey and explain how he wasn't a racist. Now, given lots of people are waking up to what's going on at the moment and giving Days and Coopies smears, I actually think it's worth you seeing quite a bit of what Tommy Robinson said back then. I had a long time to think about where I was going. I know it was strange, seems strange to say that,

but where I was going, where the movement was going and what I want. And then when I come out of prison, I see the organisation, elements of the organisation, fringe elements that were on the outskirts, had been welcomed back. I'd battled for four years to keep racist, Nazis, extremists out of this movement. I've battled and dedicated my life to it. And they were invited back. And I felt let down by the people in the organisation that were in positions.

The same people that are calling me a traitor now that were in positions invited Nazis to stand with them in the street. Now, I am the public face. It's my face that is up for this. I have to be true to myself. I despise Nazis. I despise racism. I'm not about to be the public face

and that was one thing. I'd made that decision I hadn't left and then Lee Wrigley was killed. What was the EDL? What is the EDL if it's not racist? It's not racist. You see, this is what I want to say. I want to say a personal thank you to supporters of the English Defence League because it's become a life and I've grown to love many people in that movement.

I see this is a massive step forward in the fight against Islamic extremism and the far right extremism. The English Defence League is a collective group of ordinary people, the majority of people in that movement are ordinary people with heartfelt concerns. and they've been branded races. I've been branded races for four and a five years. Everyone's called me a racist and extremist.

But you did say there should be no more mosques built in Britain unless I'm reformed, correct? I said there should be no more mosques unless they're moderating and regulated in a way like schools are with Offstead. I said, I believe we need to know who's funding them. We need to know which preachers of a hate to speak in them if they are. And we need British-born Muslims in control of those mosques. Now, what's coming out of this is everyone's saying the English defense that's been taken over by Nazis. That's not actually the case. The point is that the first demonstration I didn't go to, Manchester, they were welcome back.

There was a recent demonstration in Portsmouth where splinter groups, which I've fought to keep out of it, actually give speeches. So for me, this is all about for me, is being the public face, we've done this for four years, we've raised a profile. I think the defence has been very successful in bringing things to the forefront. I now think it's at a point... Have you changed your views? My views, I think I want people to listen to my views, because what people betraying my views and believe my views would be is not what they are. I don't hate Muslims. I have a... Why do you want to stop mosques being built?

Unless they're moderating and regulated, because I believe there's a problem. And every time we see an undercover documentary, we see problems, and then it's like, they say, oh, that's not Islam, and it's not representative. But there is a problem. But for me, this leaving is about... We're four years in. I see this as a step forward. I see this as inevitable progression into what we were doing.

And I don't see it beneficial to continue doing what we would do it. Do you still think this country's in danger? I know this country's in danger. I've just sat in there and watched the news and seen that we've got to... 2,000 British people out fighting out for al-Shabaab. This country is in danger. Let's not pretend. The biggest threat to this country is Islamist terrorism, extremism.

At the same time, I despised far-right extremism. I've battled through this organisation to be true and to steer it in what me and my cousin Kevin have built it on. And we've built it on inclusive in welcoming everybody. Sure, but you haven't changed your views? No, basically, no one's listened to what I've said for four and a half years because our message has been lost in translation because of the action. of a minority and that's

I just thought that was really important for you to hear today and isn't it fascinating how much the state broadcaster has changed in just a decade a conversation that they would never allow us to hear today

and by the way I couldn't believe this its presenters have been revealed as hard left extremists right because the moment they leave the corporation they show their true colours we've seen it with Emily Maitlis. We've seen it with Lewis Goodall and John Sopal. And now we're seeing it with

the ex-flagship BBC News presenter. She fronted their election. She fronted the Today program Michelle Hussein, a Muslim who has bizarrely used her first public intervention as a campaigner for Islam to defend, wait for it, wait for it. The ISIS bride, Shemima Begham. She said the media treated Begham poorly because she was a Muslim rather than because she was a terrorist traitor unconcerned by beheadings. Watch. Nearly six years ago, the chair of the press regulator Ipso said after five years in the role that he thought Muslims were on occasion written about in the newspapers in ways Jews or Catholics would not be.

And I'll share an example here of someone for who, I think it is worth asking the question, would she have been perceived exactly the same way if she'd had a different name, had not been Muslim? This story goes back to 2015 and three school friends leaving their homes in London, traveling through Turkey to join Islamic State, a prescribed terror group in Syria. It was soon after the murders of hostages, including journalists James Foley and Stephen Sotloff, workers Peter Kasig and David Haynes and Alan Henning a Solford taxi driver who was on his fourth trip delivering supplies to Syria when he was abducted by IS

Shamima Begum one of the three was 15 at the time four years later the times found her and interviewed her in a camp in Syria she was nine months pregnant about to give birth to a third child her older to having died as babies through illness and malnutrition The callousness of her words in that interview, including her saying she'd been unmoved by the sight of a captured fighter's severed head in a bin, prompted widespread revulsion. Amid the scramble to get the first TV interview, both Sky and the BBC reached her. One broadcaster said their correspondent had tracked down the IAS bride in a hospital just hours after she gave birth. The other recorded their interview when her son was three days old,

the distinctive cry of a newborn, audible, off-camera as she spoke. Okay, I'm genuinely astonished. And all her champagne socialists, filled with suicidal empathy, no doubt sat there nodding along. This is back shit crazy, but there's more. When I watched these interviews, I saw something that appeared to go entirely unnoticed,

in editorial decision making or was regarded as unimportant. I saw a teenage mother only just postpartum. I thought of my own experience, giving birth in NHS hospitals to three healthy babies with family members helping out. I know I was in no fit state to give any interview in the weeks, let alone the days after those births, and certainly not an interview of consequence to the rest of my life,

conducted without advice, representation, or even access to information. The teenager said it herself in one interview. I don't have my phone. I can't go on the internet. I don't know what's going on around me right now. I found these interviews very hard to reconcile with a sense of duty of care, assessing whether an interviewee is in a position to give informed consent or in a position where they can speak freely.

Shemima Begham was still living among IS women. It was rare to see any focus in reporting of how she was under 16, legally a child, when she made the worst decision of her life, which, to be clear, was also criminal because IS is a designated terror organisation. Oh, I'm glad you got that in there. At the end, Michelle Hussein. How utterly bizarre! How utterly crazy! That the BBC's former flagship presenter goes on stage for her first major speech

pushing the Islam message and says, you know what, we've got to rehabilitate Shemima Begham? And let me tell you, when was the last time that there was a Catholic 15-year-old suicide bomber who went over to join one of our enemies? Let me tell you, that would be a big story, okay? But the suicidal empathy of an idiot like Michelle Hussein, a dangerous idiot like Michelle Hussein, proves that the MSM have an agenda. Their agenda is to cover up the serious threat

that Islam, including the terrorists, invading our country on a daily basis, pose to ordinary Brits. Yet the litany of evidence about what we are facing it piles up every day. Like, why is Rianan White? Riannon White, who was allegedly killed last October by a migrant at the asylum hotel where she worked, who is currently on trial. Why is she not a household name when you listen to the horror of her case, which has currently been outlined to court? The asylum seeker laughed and danced after stabbing a worker in his migrant hotel to death, a court has heard.

They were shown CCTV of Riannon White leaving the hotel to catch a train before a masked man is spotted following behind her. Prosecutors claim this man is Deng Chol Magic, a Sudanese asylum seeker from the hotel in Walsall. Two minutes later, after Riannan was stabbed over 20 times with a screwdriver, the man re-emerges on the bridge holding a phone. Ms. White was on a call to a friend when the attack happened, and the jury was told Magic took the phone from her and threw it in a river. Magic, who claims to be 19, then allegedly returned to the hotel where he was seen laughing and dancing in excitement at what he had done. Magic has pleaded not guilty and the trial continues. An illegal who shouldn't have been here. Why aren't politicians like Daisy Cooper

speaking about him? Speaking about Riannon? Or how about speaking about the migrants trying to kidnap teenagers in broad daylight? Moment two men tried to kidnap a teenager from a busy city centre street in broad daylight. daylight. Muhammad Ali, age 49, and his son Lutman Ali, 20, attempted to bundle the teen into a vehicle in central Birmingham. The 15-year-old girl can be seen walking along the street,

before being approached by two men. She is grabbed by the arms and the men try to bundle her into the back seat of a parked white Dacia. Bravely fighting back, the girl wrestles with the men for a moment on the pavement in a desperate bid to escape. As the men make to drive off, members of the public come over to intervene. The group try to stop the men from driving away with the terrified teen, gathering around the vehicle. The heroic members of the public then form a human barricade in front of the car, forcing it to stay put and saving the girl from the kidnappers before she manages to escape and run to a nearby shop for help.

The two suspects were quickly arrested at the scene for their role in the petrifying incident. Specialist officers are speaking to the girl and offering her support in the wake of the harrowing ordeal. Both Mohammed and Lutman are charged with kidnapping. Mohammed is also accused of false imprisonment and assault and have been remanded into custody. Now let's just not talk about that, right?

And when the police do try and step in to patrol the bad behaviour of these communities, these Muslim communities, this is the response they get. NSL, Wolverhampton. NSL Wolverhampton, 315. Okay. So they told you to come here during the prayer times, right? I'm just coming here by myself. Oh, by yourself? Oh, so is it you who hating Muslims' players time, right?

Do you have some problem with my religion? What are you doing here just at this time, praying time? Yellow lines, yellow lines. Yeah, I understand it, but why you're not here every day? Because if you come down, we get abuse every day like you're doing. No, I'm not abusing you. You are, you've got to come around. I'm not abusing, am I abusing him?

Hello brothers, am I abusing him? I was having abuse. I'm talking to you. I don't abuse, why would I abuse? I think you're taking advantage of Muslims, praying in the mosque and giving them tickets, where every day when we're having here arguments, fight, you're not coming, you're always, abandoning this area and now when the paying time you get to the disgrace of migrant hotels like in highfield house hotel in southampton we're turning point UK as a quiet footage of

illegals attacking each other and trying to smash windows None of it. I'm a question. What's what? What are you? What are you? What? None of them should be here.

None of them should be here. There was an equally disturbing report on Talk Tee's He was a Mauritanian asylum seeker and why did he do this? Why did he do this? Because he didn't like his room. He didn't like this hotel and he wanted to be moved. So because he got frustrated and found that the process was taking too long, this was his method of speeding up the process, coating this rather nice four-star hotel room in green paint. We also have pictures, thanks to you, Isabel, of other rooms, another. room where two migrants apparently had a fight about drugs and when you see this room there it is look at the state of these rooms this is a nice hotel by the world or at least it used to be now on the floor there if you can we may get a close up in a minute but the carpet there covered in blood absolute detritus everywhere look at the mess of it apparently this was where two migrants asylum seekers had got into an extremely violent fight over drugs, which is a story in itself really.

But look at the state of this. So Isabel, you brought these pictures in. This is through a contact of yours. Well, your thoughts on what we're looking at here. Well, when I received these pictures this morning, I was just shocked. I mean, some will say, why be surprised? But this is how certain asylum seekers repay the generosity of the British taxpayer.

And all this does is add to the fury that we are paying for people who hate us, for people who want to destroy us to live in luxury accommodation, including, by the way. And this is real. This is not a spoof. This beautiful 16th century manor house, which Basil the Great has described as the poshest migrant hotel in the world. Watch.

Welcome to the Maidley Court Hotel. He needs back up. He needs back up. He needs back up. Look at this architecture. Hey. Hi, what's up, man? Come to film this building.

Yeah. What film? This building. Doing a documentary on the housing crisis. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. We are big problem, bro.

My wife is pregnant. Yeah? And not take point, man. Not to take appointment in doctor. You can't get appointment? Two weeks going in her and speaking. My wife's problem. What country are you from?

Georgia. Yeah. Okay. You're staying in the here then? Yeah. Okay. Four months I'm living here. Four months.

When the housing office comes, is it? Look at this. Housing office. Housing information. In Arabic. I'm not allowed to come here. I'm not allowed to come here? No, yeah.

A bit ironic though, isn't it? I'm trespassing. I'm trespassing? Yeah. You don't think that's a bit ironic? Look at that. We are told we are trespassing when we come to these places. People have entered the country illegally with no documentation.

They're placed in here. And some of them are not even worn torn countries. So who are we kidding? Are we doing a training day guys? Big training day? No, as I said to your colleague mate, we heard a report that there's a protest and that's where we've come down here in these numbers ultimately. That's the only reason why we're hearing numbers. We're not protesting.

So other officers have come from different corrections. Are we got any more on the way? I don't know, mate, I don't believe so, but yeah, that's why we've come out of force and all right. All right. Mental. Yeah, I think they said they're tend to be tendons. Yeah, he said there was 10 protesters. Up the borderline.

This is what your taxes are paying for. Isn't that utterly astonishing? You get mugged. You get your house broken into. You get assaulted. The police are not going to show for you. No way. But if someone citizen journalists just walks inside a migrant hotel,

which we are paying for, by the way, Ten police turn up to shut it down. There is a conspiracy of silence to try and stop us understanding where these migrants are being housed. Meanwhile, the response from Labour is total arrogance. Look at Lisa Nandi, putting down men at pubs on the BBC. We've literally have... I mean, your government...

No, can we just be very clear about this? No, no, you carry on. Go on. Keep digging. You've literally sent a trade delegation with Rachel Reeves to China within the last few months and then you accuse us of not having a hard approach when we were the ones

who charged these guys you'd let them off. Right, mate, just talk about... Just calm down for a moment because... This is important. This is like the national security of our country. I know, but you're literally just sitting on a sofa shouting like an angry man in a pub.

I don't think that's fair. I don't think... I don't think it's true. Okay, but can you stop doing that so that I can just answer the question because... Well, I'm not doing that. Yes, Lisa and Andy,

there are lots of angry men up and down the country in pubs because of what you are doing to our... country, you should listen to them rather than try and deride them. And what about Labour losing Neil Coyle being thrown out after a clash with Reform UK's Lee Anderson in Westminster? I'm going to make some progress because I know there's a lot of people want to speak in this

very important debate. I always talk to intervention. This isn't a coincidence and it is a classic case, I believe, of a mayor who could not care less. He would soon to spend his time calling everybody who disagrees with him. I've just said not going to give way, Ms McVeigh. He would sooner spend his time calling everybody who disagrees with him a racist rather than stopping these endless knife attacks on the streets of London.

I remind members that it's down to the speaker to accept or not. Is it a point of order? Well, I'll listen to your point of order and then we'll decide if it was. Thank you very much. The point of order, Chair, is that where members are all required, to not mislead the House or accidentally mislead the House. There is an issue with some of the figures that have just been presented. And I just wonder whether you could encourage the Member to either give the dates for the figures he was using,

which show that they'll be out of date, or use the correct data which show that knife crime has fallen in the Capitol. Something we should welcome together. It wasn't a point of order. Would you like to leave the Westminster Hall? When we're done, yeah. I'd actually ask you now to leave. Thank you. Wow, brilliant. Thank you.

And it wasn't a point of order. It was a point of debate. There are at least 10 people who'd like to speak today, and you do have your chance to speak if you had, but I'm afraid your temper and your attitude doesn't actually belong in Westminster Hall. Lee Anderson. Thank you, Ms. McVeighan. It's not the first time the Honourable Member has been thrown out of a room on this estate.

this estate. So that's the arrogance of the pricks who are destroying our country. Now ahead of what he believes will be a holy war, Nick Tenconi, the leader of UKIP, is giving moderate Muslims the chance to take the right side, announcing I am calling on all moderate peaceful Muslims to join us on Saturday the 25th of October and to stand with us against Islamist extremism. My hand remains extended. This is your chance to separate from the Islamist and denounce the Islamic Caliphate. We have a right to defend ourselves. I'm calling on all Christians, all patriots, and all concerned citizens. Whenever we stand up for ourselves, our values, our faith and our way of life,

the unified voice of the Unholy Alliance screams and shouts in our face, both online and at street level calling us racists, fascists and Nazis. We didn't want or start this war, and it has now been made clear to us that the Islamists and the communists want to wipe us out, us out and certainly we will be shown no mercy. I say we have a right to self-defense. On Saturday the 25th of October, you must stand with us in Whitechapel. We reject the occupation of our towns and cities by the expansionist nature of Islamism and Whitechapel is a prime example of Islamist occupation. It's not personal citizens, they've tried it on and now they're

going to be met with resistance. The problem patriots is that their model is so aggressive and expansive in orientation and I know that peaceful moderate Muslim would agree with me, the essence of radical Islam is colonialism. So I say all is fair in love and war. We as patriots and Christians say bring it on. Britain is a Christian land and we will not stand for being colonised, which I will remind you hasn't happened by battle, strength and heart or military superiority.

No, the Islamic Caliphate has been invited in by the liberal traitors in government to colonize Britain. Now I have met many moderate peaceful Muslims who are are not Islamists and they have said we get it we stand against Islamic extremism and Islamism my hand remains extended to peaceful moderate Muslims who denounce the Islamic caliphate and this is where we find out where we stand patriots I am calling on all the peaceful moderate Muslims to stand with us on Saturday the 25th of October in Whitechapel if you stand against Islamism and Islamic extremism as you say you do

then what's the problem you should have absolutely no issue standing with us us and Muslims and Christians will unite in the fight against Islamist psychopaths and against the Islamic Caliphate. It is not enough to live in your cohorts and conclaves and stay silent when it comes to the Islamic Caliphate. It is not enough to sit silently when Islamist terror attacks happen. Now is the time to make your voices heard by not publicly denouncing Islamism, then you willingly or unwillingly become the grass which the extremists sliver through. My hand is extended. Stand with us and join us on Saturday the 25th of October in Whitechapel and together we will unite against Islamic extremism. Denounce the Islamic Caliphate.

Let's see how many show up. Now, the superstar panel. The brilliant Lee Harris of Addicted to News and Aula Minnie Hayne with me. Aller, I actually read your post on X in yesterday's Digest, because you are so furious about these migrant hotels and these HMO's luxury accommodation. You say you feel sick with anger. This can no longer be tolerated. You said to Kirstama, you are literally breaking this country and its people. But look, even more examples today.

And there's an arrogance about what they're doing. all they don't give a damn all they want to do is call you a far right racist and move on well um do you know what i'm just going to move so you can get me properly in the thing the camera um i am normally a very upbeat very you know glass is half full kind of person dan but i'm getting to a point much like many many people i think where i am becoming absolutely enraged by what is happening in this country. If you look at that video and A.Y Audits, who's a guy that's covered our Epping protests, went into this apartment block in Chelmsford in Essex, 98 apartments. And a guy was interviewed who seemed like a

nice enough man, in fairness, but he'd come from Turkey, which is the second most visit tourist destination, holiday destination for Brits. So why is he coming here? I'm looking for asylum. And I loathe the fact people say asylum seekers when they are not asylum seekers. Asylum seekers are people who are coming from seeking asylum because they are coming from mourned to all countries. In a piece that you just showed a minute ago, the guy's coming from Georgia. Georgia, Georgia. I've got friends who have been to Georgia for a weekend away because it's so beautiful. This is the ultimate. piss take excuse my language of the british people now that guy who was in that video took a y around to his apartment two of two guys lived in a brand new apartment they both had an

ensuite what is just absolutely ludicrous on the flip side yesterday i got a phone call from a couple of ladies in eping who told me about a woman who has got six children who was throwing out of her accommodation. She's six months pregnant and she had nowhere to go. She was, she went to the council offices in Harlow and sat there all day. They put her in a holiday in in South End for one night and they're going to deport her back to Ireland, even though she's lived here. But because she's an Irish citizen, they're going to deport her with six children, yet these men are coming over and going into hotels and staying for years. Well, indeed. And this is why I now think this is purposeful.

I honestly think it is purposeful. And it is part of this plot to import Islam here to the United Kingdom. There's just no other explanation for it. Because when you look at what they're doing to that woman, well, why? Why are they doing it? Because she's Christian and white probably. Lee, then you look at the BBC. Okay.

And their former flagship presenter, Michelle Hussein, has decided to launch. this campaign to try and rewrite history about Shemima Begham. And to me, it just completely shouts out about how out of touch our elite class really is. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I just thought it was insanity. Well, I read the brief of what she said at this speech. And to me, it just instantly stunk of typical kind of leftist luxury beliefs and an identity politics mindset. you know, no belief in personal responsibility.

She was making excuses for Shemima Begham. I found it grotesque in all its form. And it's just nonsense about what you're saying about is it because it's Muslim. ISIS is fundamentally based on an extreme version of Islamic scripture. Of course you're going to be Muslim if you're going to be joining ISIS. But to say that she was treated differently is ludicrous. I don't know if you all remember Jihadi Jack.

Jihadi Jack was a British citizen who had joined. citizen with Canada. And the same thing happened to him. You know, I don't think it's got anything to do with it's to do with the act rather than rather than the person. I don't think we're sort of singling someone out. And I did a bit of research on this actually. Between 2010 and 2022, the home office stripped 220 individuals of their citizenship, citizenship on the ground that it was conducive to the public good. So this isn't kind of isolated case. She was obviously, you know, it is the most famous case. But she's obviously just, like you said,

completely detached from reality, completely lost touch with what normal people, how normal people view this case. I found it utterly grotesque, completely out of touch. It's ludicrous, absolutely ludicrous. And then we get to Daisy Cooper, Olamini Hayne, who said in Parliament that Tommy Robinson

is a far-right racist hate preacher compared Elon Musk to Vladimir Putin for funding his terror case. And again, you just think, my God, we're living in two Britons, aren't we? We are. We are. We're living in the twilight zone. This is a woman whose leader says that women that women can have a penis. Right.

So, I mean, literally, that's all, you know, they're so, and you know what? I was saying to somebody yesterday, actually, the split between, I don't even think it's split between right and left. I think it's split between like insanity and normality. That's how it seems because you can't keep calling people who are completely insane, who are off the wall left. So many of them are completely insane.

The delusional way that they look at what is happening in this country just, I just can't fathom it. Look, at the end of the day, you know, to call, I think she called him, did she call him a hate preacher or a creature? I couldn't work out what she said. Preacher. It was preacher, but a lot of people thought she'd said creature and actually both are sort of as bad as each other. They are, but I mean, these, you know, what, and then Elon Musk, what's, you know, in the great scheme of things, when we look at what is happening in this country, all they can do is focus on Tommy Robinson. If it's not Tommy Robinson, it's Nigel Farage. That's it. That's literally the two people that they hate that that's all everything to blur everything that's

happening is to do with them everything everything that's bad is to do with them when normal people look at what is happening and think everything that is going wrong in this country is either to do with liberal lefty champagne socialists or labor screwing us to the ground raising taxes spending money on illegal invaders putting us at risk letting men wander aimlessly and assaulting young girls, murdering them and doing, God knows what else. It's like they can't see, they just can't see the wood for the trees. And the whole country is screaming, what are you doing? What are you doing? What are you saying? What are you thinking?

And then the minute someone who says anything that everybody thinks, anything sensible, or anything that they deem, they deem not in agreement of what they are preaching day in and day out, You're a far-right racist. Far-right racist. No one wants to speak to you. Far-right racist. There is no dialogue. There is every, we're demonised for having a different view to the people on the left.

And the people on the left are destroying this country. Destroying it. And it's heartbreaking. I think the most dangerous man in the country at the moment is this toothless weirdo, Zach Plansky. Because have you noticed, the Green Party, which has been given completely positive coverage from the mainstream media, despite the extremity of their positions, has shot up in the polls so high that there is a very real prospect that the real opposition to Reform UK at the next election will be a coalition of that nutters at Polanski and Jeremy Corbyn. So we've got to start calling it out.

And I was absolutely delighted to see Zach Polansky finally destroyed on live TV because Jeremy Vine, who was very soft on him, made the decision which I'm sure they regretted, but I was like cheering for, to put Polansky on a panel with Carol Malone. And Carol Malone wasn't having any of this guy's bullshit, including, by the way, his claims that he can enhance someone's breasts via hypnotism. So these exchanges were absolutely brilliant. Watch. Is it true that you will charge women to hypnotise them to make their breasts bigger? No, it's absolutely not true. And he shouldn't have said that live on TV.

What is true is that some journalists approached me 13 years ago, 12, 13 years ago, and said, would I do some work around body image? I said, sure. She then said, can you do this ridiculous thing? I said, absolutely not. She said, would you be willing to try as an experiment for the sun? Here's my mistake. If someone says they work for the sun

and they're a journalist. Both those things can't be true. Yes, it was her idea and she said she worked for the son. Why would you do it? You were a smart man. Did you not see the trap? Because I wasn't a politician

and I said back, if you make it... Wait, wait, wait, let me finish. If you're asking a story, Carol, you've got to let me do. I've heard you use this excuse before in dismissing that. It's right that he brought that up. It's, because I asked you before,

we went on air, the job, the various jobs you've done. That is an excuse. You did it, nonetheless. No, I didn't. You were asked to do it and you tried it. So if you'd let me finish, I said, as long as you make it clear, it's not something I charge for. It's not a service I do, and this is your idea. She didn't do that. I then went out the next day on BBC radio and said, this doesn't represent me. This was way before I was involved in politics.

I made a mistake, and I own that. But I think we are more than one mistake. And actually, my favourite politician, Tony Benn, used to say, I don't care where you're coming from. I care where you're going. And actually what I now have is a history and a record of years in politics where I've stood up for marginalised communities. I've spoken out on women's rights. No, you're the real tit.

And you haven't spoken up on women's rights because you believe that a woman can have a bloody penis. But then things got serious. And they got serious. And Malone went even further when he repeated his Nazi slur against Reform UK. Was it right to say, on that show, though, but the bit of the clip before we showed it

was you saying to Zia Yousef, you're a fascist? Well, the reason why we're surging in the polls and the reason why we're getting so more many members is because if something walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I'll call it a duck. And actually, Nigel Farage, when he worked in the European Parliament, used to join forces with the Swedish Democrats. These are literally a Nazi party with roots with the far right.

Is that a same? Who dare you throw words like Nazi around? Do you even know what that means? People like you are just going to get reform more votes by talking like that. You know, you believe in your politics, reform believes in theirs. And you cannot call them Nazis for believing in that. Because you just make yourself look cheap. Well, rather than the faux outrage, I think we should focus on the people who want to deport people of colour,

who want to extend indefinitely to remain. They want to deport people who have come here illegally. It's not about their colour. There you go misrepresenting what's happening. How do you expect people to come here legally if there's no safe and legal There is, there are safe and legal rules. The people who are coming on those boats are choosing to do it that way, and they're doing it because they want to get in here to Britain to work.

I mean, you're not a fascist, but you're absurd because 80% of asylum. You'd like to call me a fascist isn't. You would like to call me a fascist because I don't agree with it. What an irresponsible idiot. And the clash over Nigel Farage continued. Did you not see the Farage case where a guy says I'm going to kill Nigel Farage, shoot him? and he's got a jail sentence. Totally unacceptable, but that's a different issue.

Could be out in two years. Yeah, but when he comes out, he's probably going to stay here. Yes. Well, that's a completely different question. But why shouldn't he be allowed to apply for asylum here when he's threatened to kill Nigel Farrah? I think if people break the law, that's a different conversation. So you should be thrown out?

The conversation I'm having with Carol is if people have done absolutely nothing wrong, they're fleeing war and persecution. They got on a small boat. They are not fleeing war and persecution. Stats say that 80% are not fleeing war and persecution. Stop peddling another life. Over 80% have a legitimate claim. to seek asylum there. That's not the same as what

you just said. You said that people are fleeing war and persecution. They are not. They are not. The legitimate claim is what their lawyers tell them to say when they come across on the border. And you should, you know that. We all know that. Well, they're not trying to tell them to say that there was war fleeing war. I mean, this is the absurdity of this anti-immigration argument. This is cliche. And I think it's really destructive and divisive for our communities. And you are

spouting cliches. You are spouting. No, I'm talking the truth, Carol. Now, Blanski, actually posted after that really struck this morning that Jeremy Vine described me in the Green Party as radical several times. Aren't the radicals those who think, A, status quo needs maintaining, and B, want to protect the wealth of the super rich, lower bills fund the NHS investing communities. But the Gryft report was furious. Writing, as a Jew, I find this cheap attack, pure evil from Zach Polanski. You owe Carol Malone and Nigel Farage apologies. This will not when you support from voters. In fact, exactly the opposite. Shame on you, Zach. But Carol Malone wasn't finished there. She,

had done her research. And the next clash came over the Green's ludicrous position to legalize all drugs. And by the way, this really does mean legalize all drugs. Like Plansky wants you to be able to walk down to your local boots and shoot up with some heroin. That is not an exaggeration. And Malone wasn't having any of it. You are literally campaigning for vulnerable young people to be taking more drugs. You're advocating giving them free poison. You are advocating young people to stupefy themselves, causing possible brain damage.

And what, in the name of a civil liberty, in the name of the freedom? Would they not be doing it anyway? That's his point. No. In Portugal, they did this. Drug death reduced to 80%. Also, also, there is no evidence.

There is no evidence that legalising something. There is no evidence. Stop. You don't get away with a mention in Portugal with hearing the truth. I'm just finishing my point, Carol, despite you shouting me down. Do not mention Portugal, because I'm going to say... Why don't you just not become an addict in the first place? Well, that's an absurd question.

Is it? Why is everyone absurd to you? Because you're absolutely absurd, because people don't choose to be addicts. That's the whole point. They are addicted, Carol. No, they're not. It's not an illness. It's not an illness. We need to turn to another subject.

No, no, no. I want to talk about when you say it's a illness. A real illness is cancer or MS. Don't you dare compare that to self-inflicted? Your mental health erasure is pretty offensive to people. And like James that we just had, the call there. I don't think James chose to be addicted. Because you've just said that it's not actually an illness.

He willfully tug drugs. Isn't it great when you finally see someone just call out the lunacy? And the same thing happened over Polanski's position on J.K. Rowling and the fact that he believes women can have a penis. I mean, I've got no time for J.K. Rowling and I think it's really sad that Harry Potter was an amazing book that was about unleashing our kind of power, being confident in who you are, identifying who you are, J.K. Rowling herself, writes under pseudonyms of different people. Yet she seems to constantly punch down against trans people, people who, as an LGBT person myself, she does not punch down against transgender people. Hold on. Hate crime over LGBT people as isn't a hundred and twenty-five percent in the last five years. Has it? So to see a billionaire, or multimillionaire, probably billionaire,

use her platform in this way, in this divisive way, feels pretty sad. You don't like... One of you don't seem to like because she's a multimillionaire. You don't seem to like rich people at all. However, this is a multi-millionaire who has taken flack for sticking up for women's rights. When you say you've got no time for her,

that means you have no time for women's rights. That's all she's ever talked about. And she makes it very clear, and everything she posts, she's not against people living in their life they're one. What she's against is the women's rights being eroded because of trans people. And that's what she sticks up for. So if you have no time for her, you have no time for women's rights. Well, I think I'd start with, first of all, I don't dislike rich people. I just want

rich people to pay a fair taxation, which is very different. Second, women's rights that I believe from speaking to women that the one that's to be talking about is violence against women and girls, not being able to get a gynecology appointment, the gender pay gap. You can't say what women's rights are because you're not one. J.K. Roller is one, and she stands up all right. You can't prioritize women as you are, but also I listen to lots of women who say we are trans-inclusive. But you're still not one. So you do not understand what has been happening to women. Well, no, but you know, you do not understand the erosion of women's rights.

But you're not trans. So we could all say we're not that thing, so we can't have an opinion. You can still have an opinion from listening to people. Yes, you are a woman and you're one woman with an opinion. She champions, the erosion of women's rights. And I think, I didn't have any time for her before this, but now I do. I don't hear her talking about women's rights, so I just hear her talking about trans people. Well, then you're not listening to her then, because that's all she talks about that. It's all about the pub and the Harry Potter theme.

So he was completely destroyed. Completely destroyed when he finally had to go toe to toe with an opponent. To my superstar panel, Lee Harris, Addicted News, and Ola, Minnie Hay. Ola, look, I thought Carol Malone did a brilliant job there. Actually, finally, someone just completely deconstructed the madness of this guy. But look, you're a Reform UK star. You know, you're one of the star. of reform. How disturbing is it for you to hear him say with a straight face to describe your

party all as being fascist, as being comparable to the Nazis? This is dangerous. And I know you can so easily dismiss the Greens, but they're at 15% in the polls now. I understand why Carol Malone is angry. And I think we have to start taking this much more aggressive approach in order to tear down their lies. Yeah, I love Carol. I think Carol's absolutely brilliant. And she's She is fierce. I love that about her. Look, let's be clear. We get called names all the time. I put a post out the other day that said racist, somebody that doesn't believe or doesn't agree with a Labour voter. Simple. So that's all they have got. Racist, fascist, Nazi. Racist, fascist Nazi. I get it all day, every day. Hence me wearing my lovely T-shirt. Not right, just right.

But, you know, the thing is, it's got to a point of sticks and stones. It's absolute nont. The irony, and I say this all the time, the irony that the people that call us Nazis are the ones that are going out, the Palestinian mob, going out chanting death to Jews, but we're Nazis. Absolutely bizarre. And the thing is with Zach, Zach and Jeremy Corbyn as the party or the coalition that will go, I mean, it's like your worst nightmare. They could make a film, an 18 film of it, and it could be like nightmare on Elm Street. It is an absolute disaster, those two. I mean, it's like your worst nightmare. saying they want to legalise drugs. We'll legalise drugs. Yeah, they're the ones that spout about being a vegan. Let's not eat meat because we want to protect our bodies, but you want to legalise drugs. Everything that they come out with is so, like just contradicts each other. It's each other. They're just, it's like you can't have a conversation because every time like Carol did, you push them on something, they'll throw something else at you. And then you ask them about why they think X and then they'll throw something else at you.

I mean, what was he just talking about? Women can't get gynecologist appointments. What? What are you talking about? Like, what a random thing to come out with? It's just, they get something fixated in their head and then they'll push that agenda with actually no, like, no substance to the subject. And then when you discused a sister or Nazi, it's, I just, it's utterly bizarre.

But, you know, on the point, I mean, this man's vile. I literally can't bear him. He's just an absolute. It's just, and it shows you that if this man is leading the Greens and they are going up in the polls, I mean, to be fair, it's only labor or conservative or reform. So nobody else has got anyone else to go with. So that's why they're doing so well. But if this man has the backing of 15% of the electorate, it just shows you what we're up against. Well, it does.

And remember, Jeremy Corbyn. Has this week, just this week, said, look, there's not going to be a merger between his hard left Islamist party with Zara Sultan and the Greens. But what he will do is deals in seats to try and stop reform UK. But I think what we're seeing is the smashing of the two-party system. Lee Harris, I do think, though, that exchange proves why the mainstream media failed to do their job when it comes to left-wing politicians time and again. every interview with Zach Polanski has been a walk in the park. It took him being head to head with Carol Malone to actually get something of substance

because in fairness, Jeremy Vine wasn't challenging him on any of this. It was Malone, who did it. No, so it's a very good observation, actually. I hadn't thought about it like that. Probably because I'm so used to the mainstream media just being very left-wing and very soft to this sort of argument. But what struck me about Zach Polanski, my analysis of him, and I'm going to try and be as fair

as I possibly can. I just don't think he's very bright. No, he's not. He's thick as a plank. He's not very politically aware, is he? No, stupid, stupid man. And, yeah, so not very bright. And if you listen to the arguments that he's making,

it's like he's stuck in 2020. It's like a lot of the positions that he's taking have been debunked a while ago. I don't know if you notice when he was, Carol, quite rightly pointed him out on our extremely high acceptance rate. I mean, pretty much everyone, even the man in the street now understands man or woman in the street understands the high

acceptance rate that we have is because of our broken asylum system he's got absolutely zero ability to critically think about anything i cannot just i cannot take the guy seriously because even if i disagree with someone there are lots of people on the left who i actually admire a lot but they're able to articulate their arguments and take on these debunk myths if that's what they want to do he just hasn't got the power or the mental ability to do any of that I've genuinely been struck by how politically naive he is. And in terms of collecting all these votes, I know he made a big thing of that they came ahead of Labor by like 0.3 of a percent.

Like they're both on 15 and they're slightly ahead on 15.6%. He thinks he's getting this positive feedback. He genuinely believes that because people are so upset with the Labour Party and they're falling into the Greens and your party as well, that he kind of thinks this is all positive feedback and everything he's saying it is right, but it genuinely feels like someone has turned the telly off and time warped us back to 2020. And it's like he's having those arguments we had that are just in the past. I find a guy utterly ludicrous. Do you think, though, that he can actually make

somebody's breasts bigger? Because it's not. I'm just saying, you know, because it's cheaper than going to Turkey. I was going to be a rich man, if he could. Absolutely not. He's the only tit. He is the only tit at this conversation. The culture is changing, folks. It really is. And I do think sometimes we have to celebrate the wins, right? And one of those wins has been very much earned by J.K. Rowling. Because single-handedly, she put her reputation on the line. She lost everything. She lost her ability. Well, she wouldn't say she lost anything. But when I say that, I mean, she lost her ability to be part of polite society, live a happy life where she could show up at the Oscars, hobnob with any major celebrity in the world who she wanted. But of course, her decision

to stand up for women's rights against all of the Harry Potter cast members who viciously turned on her has eventually changed the culture. And we saw it this week with Kerr Knightley. Because Kara Knightley in the past has been a very woke pro trans celebrity. But for financial reason she made the decision to sign up to voice one of the characters in the new audiobook of Harry Potter. And of course that meant that when she was promoting her new Netflix movie, The Woman in Cabin 10, I'm quite looking forward to watching, actually. All of a sudden, there wasn't any of the self-important baloney when she was asked about J.K. Rowling. She She didn't dismiss J.K. Rowling as an evil person and speak about trans rights.

Instead, she laughed off the question because the culture has moved so significantly. Watch this. Voicing Professor Ombridge in the new Harry Potter audio books. I was wondering, are you aware that some fans are calling for a boycott giving J.K. Rowling's ongoing campaign against trans people? I was not aware of that, no. I'm very sorry. You know, I think we're all living in a period of time right now. We're all going to have to figure out how to live together, aren't we?

And we've all got very different opinions. So I hope that we can all find respect. And if only that had been the answer of the liberal elite, the Hollywood elite, the woke elite, as they tried to cancel every single human being who didn't sign up to the fact that you could biologically change yourself. something which is of course impossible when they were literally destroying the life of Father Ted creator Graham Linnehan when they were literally painting J.K. Rowling

as some type of evil woman. But of course, Karenite Lee's U-turn follows that of Emma Watson. Watch. Ever cancel her out or cancel that out for anything, it has to remain true. It is true. And this is where this like holding of these, I just don't know what else to do other than hold these two seemingly incompatible things together at the same time and just hope maybe they will one day resolve or co-join themselves and maybe accept that they never will, but that they can both still be true. And I can love her,

I can know she loved me. I can be grateful to her. I can know the things that she said are true. And that can be this whole other thing. And my job feels like to just hold, just to hold all of it. But the bigger thing is just what she's done will never be taken away from me. Okay. So that's still self-important con artists, right?

But to my superstar panel, Lee Harris of Addicted to News, and Orla, Minnie Hain. Ola, look, I do think sometimes though we have to take the wins, right? And there has been a huge cultural shift when it comes to the issue of biological sex. Yeah, I mean, there has. If you look at where we were two, three years ago, absolutely. But I mean, you know, I've said this before about Emma Watson. What a brat. And it's amazing.

Oh, what an awful little brat. Brat. And you know what? Isn't it amazing what you do when the money starts. drying up and you're not, you know, the star anymore. And suddenly you want to, they're so, you know, they're so rada and so sweetie darling. And it makes me want to throw up. Do you know what? And now suddenly Emma isn't, you know, the golden girl anymore. Kira Knightley's cracking on a little bit and she's nearly 40 probably. And now suddenly they have to, you know, they have to, you know,

pander to JK because she's still very famous and got lots of money. Do you know what? They make me want to throw up. And the thing is they're so disingenuous. That's. what really, really gets on my wick. You know, they've, the way they treated, and I've said this before when I've been on this, Dan, the way they treated J.K. Rowling and the way that they, you know, they literally never bite the hand that feeds you. She picked them from obscurity, made them child stars, did everything for them, and then suddenly they threw her under the bus when their egos got so big. Daniel Radcliffe's another one. Can't bear him. I mean, the ginger one. He was the worst, actually, Daniel Radcliffe.

Daniel Bradcliffe was the worst. I mean, he was vile about J.K. Rodney. Awful. You know, and that just, it just furriates me so much. I think, like, you were nobody's. She made you with somebody, and then you became famous, and then you threw her under the bus.

Shame on them. And do you know what? I wouldn't believe a word that came out of their mouth. Next thing, do you know what? They'll join the Green Party. That'll be the next thing, and they'll put themselves forward as counters us with the Green Party. But the thing is,

what they're doing, Lee, is following a script, right? That's all they've ever done. So they don't actually truly look into these issues. They just know that to stay accepted in Hollywood, we have to pretend that biological sex isn't real. You know, we have to pretend that a woman can chop off their boobs and claim that they're a man.

We have to pretend that a man running around with a penis in a dress should be allowed at a women's prison. And they all did that for years. And it's totally changed my perception of JK Rowling. I mean, I didn't agree with JK Rowling on anything, right? Like, let's be honest, J.K. rolling on most other issues is a lefty. But as all I said earlier in the show, it's not really about left versus right on these issues anymore. It's just about truth.

Yeah, I couldn't agree. And I couldn't agree more. I was going to say, I'm not defending any of them, by the way. But we do know, as you just pointed out, that that industry is completely surrounded, unless you've got these acceptable views. I mean, Lawrence Fox is a great one to listen to about the industry. He tells everyone what it was like. Unless you have these acceptable views, then you don't get anywhere and you get – so I'm not saying – I'm not giving them any leeway to get out of it.

No, but your point is that they would potentially lose their careers. So that's why they all follow this line. Which is why I found what Kira Knightley said incredibly refreshing. It wasn't just the way, it wasn't just what she did. It was the way that she did it. It was like, that's what normal people do. That was a normal human reaction to that particular question. And when I watched it, I thought that that laugh, that single laugh,

kind of immediately and effortlessly destroyed the entire gender ideology argument, just by that simple laugh. And because I think a lot of people watch that, like, I did, and just think we were returning to normality a little bit. It's, we're far from, you know, we're far from there yet. We've got a long way to go. But we do get, like you said, Dan, we've got to take these wins when we get them. Because it did, it did just make me feel just a little bit normal.

Yeah. And we don't want our celebrities to feel like they have to weigh in on politics or cultural war issues every single damn day. when we know they're not living in the real world at all, right? Because they live in gated communities with, you know, it's like Richard Bacon saying that you're racist, right, if you put up the Union Jack Flag. Right.

You live in a suburb of Los Angeles where there is a 0.2% non-white population. So actually. Gary Neville. Gary Neville. Gary Linnaker. Jumping socialist, you know. Totally. So just spot up.

Yeah, exactly. Sitting in his mansion, kids go to private. you know, they don't know what it's like to live in the real world. And the thing is that annoys me is people like him, I mean, not a great footballer, but, you know, he did wear the England flag. He wore the England kit and then has the audacity to, you know, slate people for being proud of their country. And we're an absolute, oh, another one.

Never sung the national anthem, though, did he? No, no. Now he finds himself roaming round building sites, pulling down flags. Yeah. But only if it's a Union Jack or a St. George's flag, Lee, the Romanian flag, you know, the Bulgarian flag, the Nigerian flag, they can all be left up in Manchester, right? It's only our flag. I mean, what an absolute world. But yeah, I think hopefully other celebrities will see that reaction from Karen Knightley and I think, you know what, there's a way to do this.

There's a way to do this. We don't have to weigh in on it all. And actually, you'll get so much more support. You know, Taylor Swift's career has absolutely recovered in recent months. But I would argue her decision to endorse Kamala Harris, making absolutely no difference, right, to the vote, was disastrous for her. We just want to hear you seeing. We don't want to hear your political views, which deep down you probably don't even believe, but you just knew that you couldn't back Donald Trump. Breaking today, huge division within the British royal family with King Charles.

and Prince William, now at war behind the scenes over the future of Prince Andrew, as both the Duke of York, and in terms of whether he can even stay in the country, following these new revelations from beyond the grave by one of Jeffrey Epstein's victims, Virginia Dufray, who took her own life earlier this year, having famously been one of the first of Prince Andrew's accuser. That is her new autobiography. Nobody's girl. It is serialized in the Guardian newspaper today. Now, I'm going to be very transparent with you. Initially, I was very against Prince Andrew, and I thought that he had made huge mistakes in terms of both his friendship and relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Then I believed that there was an almost hysteria

that was going around when it came to this case where both Prince Andrew and Gleine Maxwell were being used by lots of high-profile figures in the US, including Bill Gates and Bill Clinton, as the two people who were going to take the fall for all of Jeffrey Epstein's terrible crimes. And I also believe that Prince Andrew never had an opportunity to defend himself in court because so much pressure was put on him by the Royal Establishment not to destroy his mum, the late Queen Elizabeth II, Platinum Jubilee. So that is some of the context, that is some of the background to this. And I will also point out, and again, this won't be palatable to some people,

but I'm just an honest broker, and I'm always going to say it as it is. Virginia Joufrey was a very troubled woman with a horrible past and I feel deeply sorry for her given the abuse that she suffered as a young woman and I'm talking about as a child too but she was proven as a liar

on multiple occasions she lied about her age when she worked at Mara Lago she lied about her sexual relationship with Alan Dershowitz which actually never happened She had to take it back and apologise to him because otherwise she was going to go down for perjury. She lied about an encounter with Prince Andrew

which was meant to have taken place in Santa Fe. And of course, famously just weeks before her death, she lied about the fact that she was in a near-death bus crash while in Australia. So she's a troubled human being. But, and this is a big butt, Prince Andrew, over the past few weeks, has been proven to be a liar as well. That damning email that he sent to Jeffrey Epstein after the publication of the picture of him with both Virginia Dufray and Gailene Maxwell, unfortunately, does prove Prince William Wright on a whole load of levels.

So this was sent to Jeffrey Epstein after the publication of that picture on Monday, February. the 28th, 2011. And he wrote, I'm just as concerned for you. I mean, remember at this point, Jeffrey Epstein is a convicted paedophile. He's gone to jail. Don't worry about me. It would seem we are in this together and we'll have to rise above it, otherwise keep in close touch and we'll play some more too. Prince Andrew lied because he claimed that he had cut contact with Jeffrey Epstein by that point. But I wanted to give you all of that context before I share with you the extract from Virginia Dufre's book. Because this is not a simple story. Virginia Dufre remember became very rich as a result of her claims about famous men like Prince Andrew.

And Prince Andrew, in his settlement with Virginia Dufray, did not admit to any sexual relationship with her. In saying that, the publication of this book is harrowing and the context, and this is where a lot of you will be very interested, is about how does this impact the royal family? As it stands, King Charles hasn't even been prepared to take away Prince Andrew's right to host shooting weekends. Prince William wants him gone. Prince William wants him out of the country. Prince William wants him forever exiled, ideally on some little Saudi Arabian island never to return to the United Kingdom again. Prince William believes he's a big issue, just like his brother is a big issue, and actually Charles's weakness has been allowing Andrew and Harry back in. So while William has a huge amount

of respect for his father, I mean, we saw their public appearance last week, which was filled with a lot of affection. There's also a lot of trauma going on here because William believes that Charles is putting the royal family at risk by not dealing with Andrew and Harry appropriately. So that is the context in which the Guardian publishes this harrowing account of what went on between Virginia Dufray and Prince Andrew said to be written by Virginia Dufray. Frey before her suicide. The headline, Prince Andrew believed having sex with me was his birthright. Virginia Dufray on her abuse at the hands of Epstein, Maxwell and the King's brother.

And Virginia Dufray from behind the grave writes, On the 10th of March 2001, we were in London staying at Maxwell's White Mews House, a short walk from Hyde Park. Maxwell woke me up that morning by announcing in a sing-songy voice, get out of bed, sleepyhead. It was going to be a special day, she said. Just like Cinderella, I was going to meet a handsome prince. Her old friend, Prince Andrew, would be dining with us that night, she said, and we had lots to do to get me ready. Maxwell and I spent most of that day shopping. She bought me an expensive purse from Burbury and three different outfits. When we got

back to her house, I laid them out on the bed. There were two sexy, sophisticated dresses she had picked out and a third option that I'd lobbied for. A pink V-neck sleeveless mini t-shirt and a sparkly multi-coloured pair of jeans embroidered with a pattern of interlocking horses. After I showered and dried my hair, I put on the jeans and top, which left a strip of my stomach exposed. Maxwell wasn't thrilled, but like most teenage girls then, I idolise Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera, and the third outfit was something I imagine the two of them might wear. When Prince Andrew arrived at the house that evening, Maxwell was more cottage than usual. Guess Jenner's age, she urged the prince after she introduced me.

The Duke of York, who was then 41, guessed correctly. 17. My daughters are just a little younger than you, he told me, explaining his accuracy. As usual, Maxwell was quick with a joke. I guess we will have to trade her in soon. In contrast to his parents today, stout white hair. haired in Jowley, Prince Andrew then was still relatively fit, with short-cropped brown hair and youthful eyes. It'd long been known as the playboy of the royal family. When I noticed that Epstein

called the Prince Andy, I began to call him that too. As we chatted in Maxwell's entryway, I suddenly thought of something. My mom would never forgive me if I met someone as famous as Prince Andrew and didn't pose for a picture. I ran to get a Kodak fund saver from my room, then returned and handed it to Epstein. I remember the prince putting his arm around my waist as Maxwell grinned behind me. Epstein snapped the photo. After a bit more small talk, the four of us headed out into the cold spring air. We went to a restaurant for dinner and afterward to an exclusive nightclub called Tramp. The prince went to the bar and came back with a cocktail for me. Then he invited me to dance. He was sort of a bumbling dancer. I remember he sweated profusely. On the way back,

Maxwell told me when we get home, you were to do for him. him what you do for Jeffrey. Back at the house, Maxwell and Epstein said good night and headed upstairs, signalling it was time that I take care of the prince. In the years since, I've thought a lot about how he behaved. He was friendly enough, but still entitled, as if he believed having sex with me was his birthright. I drew him a hot bath, we disrobed and got in the tub, but didn't stay there long because the prince was eager to get to the bed. He was particularly attentive to my feet, caressing my toes and licking my arches. That was a first for me and it tickled. I was nervous he would want me to do the same to him, but I needn't have worried. He seemed in a rush to have intercourse. Afterward, he said

thank you in his clip British accent. In my memory, the whole thing lasted less than half an hour. The next morning Maxwell told me you did well, the prince had fun. Epstein would give me $15,000 for servicing the man, the tabloids called Randy Andy. My second encounter with Prince Andrew took place about a month later at Epstein's townhouse in New York. Epstein greeted Andrew and brought me to his living room where Maxwell and I was sitting. Another one of their victims, Joanna Soberg, a vived soon after. Maxwell then announced to the prince that she had purchased him a joke gift, a puppet that looked just like him. He suggested we posed for a photo with it. The prince and I sat down next to each other on the couch, and Maxwell put the puppet in my lap, positioning one of his hands

on one of my breasts. Then she put Schoberg on the prince's lap, and the prince put his hand on Schoberg's breast, the symbolism was impossible to ignore. Joanna and I were Maxwell and Epstein's puppets, and they were pulling the strings. I don't know exactly when I had sex with Prince Andrew for the third time, but I do know the location. A 72-acre island Epstein owned in the US Virgin Islands. The private sanctuary right next to St. Thomas Island was called Little St. James, but Epstein liked to call it Little St. Jeff's. I also know that it was not just the two of us this time. It was an orgy. I was around 18, I said in a sworn declaration in 2015.

Epstein, Andy, and approximately eight other girls and I had sex together. The other girls all appeared to be under the age of 18 and didn't really speak English. Epstein laughed about how they couldn't really communicate, saying they are the easiest girls to get along with. Since I gave that account, Epstein's pilot has said in a deposition that a coded notation that he made on his flight log for 4th of July 2001, referred to to Prince Andrew. He said that Epstein, the prince, another woman and I, flew from St Thomas that day, back to Palm Beach. I guess it's possible that the orgy I remembered occurred in the days leading up to that flight, which would mean I was still 17. I'll probably never know the date for certain. What I do know, because Epstein told me, is that Jean-Luc Brunel, the French modelling agent,

who was also in attendance, supplied the other girls who took part. There were two footnotes to this book, serialised in The Guardian. Virginia Dufray died by suicide on the 25th of April 2025. In February 2022, her lawyers obtained a settlement from Prince Andrew. It was made without any admission of liability on his part, and he continues to deny Dufre's allegations that he had sex with her, that she had been trafficked him by Epstein, or indeed that he had even met her. This is adapted from Nobody's Girl, a memoir of surviving abuse,

and Fighting for Justice by Virginia Roberts Dufray published on Doubleday on the 21st of October. Difficult stuff. Very, very difficult stuff. But I wanted to provide the full context before going to my superstar panel, Lee Harris of Addicted to News, and Aula Minnie Hayne.

Ola, what do you make of it? I mean, the abuse of any child, and let's be clear, a 17-year-old is a child, okay? And if Hussein can get Michelle, who's saying can get up and, you know, talk about a 15-year-old going, you know, to be with ISIS, being a child and vulnerable, then we can stay the same about this poor woman. You know, the thing is, and I've always been a royalist, and I am a royalist. and I have got the utmost respect, I had the utmost respect for the late queen and I had the utmost respect for William and Kate. I think that Charles is weak, yes, very much so.

And I think that Andrew should absolutely be cast aside. And, you know, it's not like he's ever going to have to live or, you know, in a box or be homeless. But I think he needs to be absolutely out of public life and away from the royal family because I think he completely trashes their name and their reputation. And I think it's awful. I mean, the man's a predator, right? He absolutely is. And, you know, to go, to say to a, and you said that she was mentally unwell and that she was unstable. And of course she was. Anyone that's been for abuse as a child and has been trafficked like she has and used and abused by men is going to be mentally unstable. And then she gets older. She's called a liar continuously. You know, everything that she says is scrutinized. You know, the poor woman just probably just got to.

a point where she just couldn't take it anymore and tragically ended her life. And it's absolutely horrendous. But, you know, ultimately, him sending that email. I mean, what kind of an idiot sends an email in the first place when it's so high profile. And I mean, you know, we'll play again soon. I mean, it really is just horrendous. He, look, he, you know, again, he hasn't been proven to do anything. He is just a disgusting old pervert. Let's just be clear about that. And the, the royal family would do themselves the world of good to just disconnect with him completely him and fergy to be fair but and i agree with william but i mean this you know i think about her and the other girls that were passed around like parcels between these disgusting men and it just makes me

want to throw up it's just horrific it just really is um and i mean you know this happens let's just be honest this happens every day throughout the world on a huge scale. And the only reason that this is so public is because of who he is and who Epstein was. But I mean, the millions and millions of girls and boys who are assaulted and trafficked every day is just, I mean, it's horrendous. It is absolutely horrendous. And we're all powerless to stop it, to be fair. It's, it's awful. No, it is. Very well put, Aller. Lee Harris, are you with Prince William who just thinks Andrew needs to be banished now and ideally should actually be out of the UK? This is one of the arguments, Lee, for taking away his shooting weekends because up until this point, so this is a real aristocratic thing, but he has the right to host these shooting weekends at Sandringham and Windsor, which still gives him a sort of social cachet.

you know, in that high society world. And Charles has sort of said, well, you know, if you take those away, what does my brother have left to live for? But I think William's point is basically, you know, that's what we want because we want Andrew to feel like he has to go to a Middle Eastern country to actually be protected and live a life there and actually be out of the UK. Yeah, I completely agree with Prince William on this. You know, what happens behind closed doors, that's slightly different to what happens in public.

And I think that taking the kind of Prince Charles approach, which is kind of like a more soft approach and not really tackling the issues head on means it's going to rumble on and on. You need to just nip it in the bud. And I would take kind of four steps. I would distance myself publicly in a way of a kind of statement. So I would make a public statement against Prince Andrew. I would then make sure all his titles were removed. And then I would remove him from the Royal Lodge. And again, follow that up with yet another public statement.

And I wouldn't just give me, I would just say you are completely cut off. You know, we've got some friends in this country. You can go and stay with them. But, you know, what happens behind closed doors? I've talked for my own experience. We've had family fallouts in my family. You know, and the way you kind of deal with it, obviously it's completely different in this case. But the way you deal with the family fallout is you do it all behind closed doors.

You can't do that as the royal family. They need to publicly cut him off. It needs to stop now because if you carry on letting Charles just kick it into the long grass, it's never going to go away. A bit like smashing the gangs. Kick it, kick it into long grass. It's just never going to, they're never going to do anything about it. So it's going to carry on this pain.

Prince William's absolutely right. cut him off. Get him gone. Do you know what though? The thing is it's like you know and we've all been in the situation when a mother dies or a grandmother like a matriarch in a family everything well goes to pot a lot of the time it goes to pot afterwards and you know there's you don't really you know they are still a they are still a family. They've still got all the issues and all the you know drama and the infighting that every other family has regardless of that you know your class or you know your you're your state that. And we don't know what Charles promised Queen Elizabeth.

You know, did she say to him on a deathbed, make sure you always look after Andrew. We know that Andrew was her favourite. Does he feel guilty? You know, I mean, Charles is an old man. You know, I mean, I'm not his biggest fan, but he's an old man. And he's battling cancer himself. Yeah, correct. Then he's got the issue with Harry, that moron of a son of his.

So the drama. And actually, William seems to be a very sensible. stoic, you know, almost like a carball cut out of his, of his grandmother, you know, where he really takes his role seriously. And he's saying, I will protect the realm with everything I've got. And if that means cutting Andrew off, then that's what I'll do. But I think that he has enough respect to Charles to probably not bully him into that. But I mean, my view is that, you know, and obviously I'm not wishing any harm to Charles, but I think we'll be in a much better place when William takes the throne to be honest. No, I understand what you're saying and I think

this is unfortunately going to be left to William. I mean, I've been advocating for a long time. There should be an act of parliament. That act of parliament could strip both Prince Harry and Prince Andrew and Megan Markle of their titles. Just do it. Just do it. Actually, it would strengthen the royal family. There would be a lot of respect and there'd also be a lot of political support. But remember, the government are not going to do that unless Charles asks them to. That's how sensitive it is. But, well, what a fabulous superstar panel we have covered it all today. I adore you both.

Lee Harris, who is otherwise known as Addicted to News. And where can people find out all of your brilliant stuff, Lee? Predominally on X. That's where I'm gobbing off the most without a doubt. So find me on X that addicted to news. but I'm also on YouTube and TikTok, all of them pretty much, part of Facebook, which I'm permanently banned from, apparently. Oh, God.

And you'll be back soon enough because they're finally having to wake up. And all are Minnie Hain. You have another big pink lady protest coming, right? We do. What do we need to know? We do. 22nd of November in Braintree in Essex. Braintree has got a barracks of 1,200 illegal migrants. Oh, my God.

And these guys are. being bust in every day into Braintree, which is a beautiful little town, and they are running riot in this town and causing mayhem. The sexual assaults and the bullying and the shoplifting is out of control. And we are basically calling to all our pink ladies across Essex and men to come and be with us on the 22nd of November because we are mobilising pink ladies across the UK. It's literally grown arms and which is amazing because we all feel the same. We are not here to be abused and sacrificial lands to this government's cultural

enrichment. Keep going. I adore the pink ladies. You are doing such amazing work. Thank you both so much. I second that. I just was going to say, I'll try and make it. Amazing.

Please do. Please do. Thanks, guys. All of any Hayne. Lee Harris, the Dictor News. Thank you both so much. What a fabulous superstar panel today. all of your feedback, by the way, coming through.

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