Dan Wootton Outspoken - TOMMY ROBINSON EXPOSES SMEAR CAMPAIGN AGAINST DANNY TOMMO AS SHABANA MAHMOOD LEADS ISLAMIST PLOT

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

BREAKING TODAY: An Islamist takeover of the British judiciary and Home Office designed to take out patriots like Danny Tommo and Tommy Robinson has just been exposed as the taqiyya-practicing Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood is forced to admit she is driven by her Allah necklace in a shocking revelation caught on camera. That comes as Tommy Robinson reveals there is now a smear campaign against Tommo because the deep state want to stop him emerging from prison as a martyr. Is it any wonder when Tan Ikram, the Islamist judge, who locked Tommo up has just been exposed. There’s still no examination of what’s going on inside our mosques despite new footage emerging of a senior preacher encouraging Muslim men to beat their wives. And will the real Nigel Farage stand up? Because after the attempted Israeli 9/11, he’s now admitted that folk will be nervous about flying with Muslim pilots as he admits the Islamist takeover poses a civilisation battle. How is that different to what Tommo or Tommy have been saying for years? That's all as Andy Burnham releases a whole load of prisoners today who are all thanking him. We’ll get into it all today with the dynamic husband and wife duo Neil Hamilton – the former Tory Minister and UKIP leader – and the author and broadcaster Christine Hamilton. PLUS: Esther Rantzen’s mixed legacy. We will pay tribute to the TV legend but unlike the mainstream media, Dan will not erase her highly controversial views on allowing the unvaccinated to die. A respectful but important conversation after her death from lung cancer at 86. AND: A shocking political and royal development as Nigel Farage pledges to DEPORT Meghan Markle from the UK as Prime Minister. We’ll show you the shocking footage which will send shockwaves and some delight through the Royal Family. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Lady Colin Campbell joins us to reveal why this week proves Catherine, the Princess of Wales, has triumphed just as Meghan Markle’s failure is complete as she launches a $148 advent calendar. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 596 and breaking today. An Islamist takeover of the British judiciary and home office designed to take out patriots like Danny Tomo and Tommy Robinson has just been exposed as the Tikia practicing home secretary Shabana Mahmood is forced to admit she is driven by her Allah necklace in a shocking revelation caught on camera. I notice you have the pendant on your... Is that a symbol of faith? So this says Allah, which is Arabic for God. I have decisions. I need to be accountable for, not just to Parliament, but in the end to the God that made me.

My faith is the most important thing in my life. It is the absolute driver of everything that I do. This comes as Tommy Robinson reveals there is now a smear campaign against Danny Tomo because the deep state want to stop him emerging from prison as a martyr. Now who's risk to fame and actually done something and got the world talking about the boats again. Danny Toye, we must attack him because he's going to come out of jail with a martyrdom support.

So they don't want to do that. So convince everyone he's a wrong one. Convince everyone he's took money. Convince everyone he's this, he's a beast, all these things. That's exactly what's going on. And is it anyone when Tan Ikram, the Islamist judge who looked Tommy up, has just been exposed? Ickram's previous rulings have also been controversial, including deciding not to punish three pro-Palestine activists who were accused of supporting Hamas after they displayed images of paragliders at a pro-Palestine rally.

In an event in Bradford last year, Bradford is one of the most ethnically diverse cities in the UK. Lots and lots and lots of Pakistani practitioners in practice in that area. and I specifically went there to reach out to that particular group of lawyers. And there's still no examination of what's really going on inside our mosques, despite new footage emerging of a senior preacher encouraging Muslim men to beat their wives. A woman, when you see from her nushus, then advise her, and boycott her in bed.

Meaning, don't touch her in bed. And discipline them physically as well, by lightly hitting them to show them. who is in charge. And it's all of this. Will the real Nigel Farage please stand up because after the attempted Israeli 9-11,

he is now admitting, in the US at least, that folk will be nervous about flying with Muslim pilots. As he admits, the Islamist takeover poses a civilisation battle. So how is that different to what Tomo or Tommy are thinking and have been saying for years?

Nobody now will get on an aeroplane without fearing who the pilots are. There is now a civilizational battle going on between us with our Judeo-Christian values and the West and those who think about the world in a very different way.

The worry I've got after today is to think about how deeply embedded much of this is within our own country. Oh, and by the way, as Danny Tomo remains locked up, Annie Burnham has today just released a boatload of violent criminals and they're all thanking him. I would the express that. Do you have a message for Andy Burnham this morning, the Prime Minister?

Thank you. You've got anything to you want to say to Andy Burnham? Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Do you think it's right that people are being released early? Some people, yeah. Do you have a message for the Prime Minister, Andy Burnham? Yeah, stop, stop sending people to prison in first place. What are you going to do now?

What's your plan? I don't know, I'm going to go steaming again. We'll get into it all today with the dynamic husband and wife duo Neil Hamilton, the formatory minister and UKIP leader and the author and broadcaster Christine Hamilton. Also coming up on the show today. Esther Ranson's mixed legacy. We will pay tribute to the TV legend, but unlike the mainstream media, I'm not going to raise her highly controversial views on allowing the unvaccinated to die.

A respectful but important conversation after her death from lung cancer at 86. And a shocking political and royal development as Nigel Farage pledges to deport Megan Markle from the UK as Prime Minister, we will show you this shocking footage that will send shockwaves and, let's be honest, some delight through the British Royal Family. We'll also have much more Royal News with Lady Colin Campbell in the Royal Uncancalled After Show on Substack. Plus, Neil, Christine and myself are nominating for the last Union Jackass of the week. Here are the nominees. Christine's gone for Jenny Riddell Carpenter. This is the Labour Minister for saying a vision of Brits drinking war mail and pubs with black Labrador's by their feet is far right. She says and I love this.

Black Labs Matter. Very good, Christine. Very good. Neil Hamilton has nominated Alex Norris for the prisoner early release scheme. And I have nominated Prince Harry for linking his problem with Papps to the attempted terror plot at RAF Fairford. So get voting. Keep your superchats coming in. Nala reveal all at the end of the show. But now, let's go. The Islamist takeover of the disunited

kingdom has now succeeded at taking control of our home office and the British judiciary in an accelerated plot to defeat patriotism. In an admission that should terrify us all, our Takia practicing home secretary, Shabana Mahmood, who had, remember, promised vengeance against Danny Tomo just days before he was locked up, admitted she is driven by her. her Allah necklace, as she was caught on camera once again confirming that her Islamist faith drives every decision that she makes. And the other thing that I think brings you solace or something different to politics is your faith.

And I notice you have the pendant on your, is that a symbol of faith? So this says Allah, which is Arabic for God. I mean, so there is an accountability, right? This life is not the end. It is a beginning. There is another life. And there is accountability before God for everything that you have said and done in this world. But remembering that this life is not the end, that God knows all.

like it means that I can sort of step back a bit and then also just remember that who I am, you know, what my life is for me, it's a gift, it's a test, I have a set of responsibilities, I have a privilege, I have to account for, I have decisions, I need to be accountable for, not just to Parliament, but in the end, to the God that made me. Okay, so let's just be very clear what she is saying. Shabana Mahmood and the Home Office is operating a Muslim first policy.

not a Britain first policy, a Muslim first policy. And this woman has been hiding in plain sight. Remember this? Islam, my own religion, like a lot of practising Muslims, my faith is the most important thing in my life. It is the absolute driver of everything that I do. I feel a very strong calling of my own conscience and my conscience calls me to God. And we know.

We know that is why she absolutely despises Danny Tomo and Tommy Robinson. They are arch-nemesis. And as Tommy pointed out, that haunting line she said on stage, and it is worth just recalling it again. I have decisions I must account for, not just in Parliament, but in the end. Tommy said she was installed as UK Home Secretary. You seen what's going on yet? Oh yes, we do. Remember MacMood Falsy accused Danny Tomo of being run. racist, something he was considering suing her over, and promised that he would feel the full force

of the law. That was just 10 days before he was locked up for trying to stop the invasion of the disunited kingdom. And while Mahmoud seeks to bring down Tommy Robinson and Danny Tomo, you will not hear a peep from her about mosque preachers in Britain telling everyone that they should beat the shit out of their wives. The Daily Mail reported a mosque in London would charitable status? What the hell? It's facing an investigation after it published sermons encouraging husbands to strike their wives and condoning the execution of gay people. Videos published on the Hackney Islamic Community Center's YouTube channel described gay sex as, quote, one of the most evil of acts, and urge men to discipline their wives

if they disobey them, including if they refuse to have sex. Many of the most extreme views are contained in a series of video lectures delivered from the centre by Yazen Munyei and Ustada who reads from Mantumatu al-Kabir a poem that collects what Islam recognizes as major sin. So here is that man, here is that man who wants to turn Great Britain into Sharia Britain. A woman when you see from her nushus then advise her, and boycott her in bed. I mean you don't touch her in bed. And disciplined them physically as well

by lightly hitting them to show them who is in charge. Whoever you see doing the action of the people of Lut then was the punishment in court in a government. It is that the person who is doing it is killed, executed and the one who is being done upon is also executed. Both of them are executed in the Sharia. But of course, Mahmood wants you to think, Danny Tomo is the real danger to British citizens. Deep down they know that the only danger he poses

is to the current political establishment's power. And that is why, and you may have seen this online, that Tommy Robinson revealed there is now this smear campaign against Tomo, because the deep state knows he will emerge from prison amasa, just like Tommy emerged from prison Amasa. He revealed as Danny sits confined in a cell, he may not realize his attack by the judiciary and government has exposed them to a wider audience. More people will join our ranks in the upcoming battle against those that try to destroy our nation, our families, our culture and our beautiful country watch. Now who's risen to fame and actually done something and got the world talking about the boats again, Danny Tommy, we must attack him because he's going to come out of jail with a martyrdom support.

So they don't want to do that. So convince everyone he's wrong. Convince everyone he's took money. Convince everyone is this, he's a beast, all these things. That's exactly what's going on. And I watch it and just think, people actually buy this shit. But they should be bought on it because it's a campaign,

a very, very well-funded campaign. John Locke, I'm seeing these Muslim converts, and a couple of these Muslim converts are doing the rounds within our movement. Anyone who doesn't, or steps out of line, isn't in our mindset, they are approaching and then pulling them in and then causing all the division working with them.

and you've got them all to take it. It's mental. And Tommy then revealed that this onslaught against him is continuing as well. When you're over the target, they come from you from all angles. You've got enemies, good. It means you start for sale. So I'm under attack from every angle, with every corner to do with everything. It's not the duty, it's not money, it's this, it's that, it's everything.

But I'm still winning. My last dispatches proves that. What I go on to do in the next 12 months, will, in the next month, just the next month, even just tomorrow, will you more than any of these wankers. Whankers do in the next 10 years? Now, our political leaders can see the inevitable uprising, including Reform UK leader Nigel Farage, who, let's be honest, seems to be flip-flopping,

over his position on Danny Tomo and Islam as he tries to strategise his way at winning Patriots back over to his side. What I have noticed, though, and I'll prove it today with receipt, is that Farage is far more on. honest about his feelings while appearing in the US independent media, where he admitted overnight to Benny Johnson that ordinary folk will now be nervous about flying with Muslim pilots after the terrifying mid-air plot to create an Israeli 9-11, which looks like it was only scuppered by a hero co-pilot. Nobody now will get on an aeroplane without fearing who the pilots are.

And we've got to think about this because what I don't know about this is how did the passengers get into the cockpit? Was it? Was it that the injured passenger pressed a button to let them in? Because since 9-11, it's been impossible for anybody to get into the co-pilots cabins. Things to think about there. Trust, safety, security in flying. And let's face it, you called it a miracle. today. I call it deliverance. These people have been through a biblical

deliverance. But the next time, the people on the plane won't be so lucky. And there will be a next time. And the next time. And the next time. And the problem is this. The religion of Islam needs to go through its own reformation. Now today it has been revealed by the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the pilot was indoctrinated by radical Islam. No surprise. The attacker, the co-pilot who attacked the captain is now being interrogated. But here's what we do know. First, we know that he underwent Islamist radical indoctrination.

That appears to be something we're gathering from the information, his personal information. Now, Farage is much more open talking about Islam in America, in the independent media in America, rather than here. And he continued in this interview with Benny Johnson, admitting that the Islamist takeover now poses a civilization battle. There is now a civilizational battle going on between us with our Judeo-Christian values in the West and those who think about the world in a very different way.

And here's the problem. Whether it's Michigan or East London or parts of New York or even now elected or prospective elected representatives to the US Congress coming up in a few weeks time, we now have embedded within our own countries, within our own civilizations, those who view our values as anathema to their way. way of life. Absolutely. But where is all of this talk here in the UK? As Nigel today declared he is back on the road starting the general election campaign early. But how is what Nigel is saying in that interview with Benny anything different to what Tommy Robinson or Rupert Lowe or Danny Tomo, or indeed all of us here on outspoken, have been saying for many months, while he has deemed us as fringy and extreme for expressing this exact view.

Will the real Nigel Farage please stand up? I'm sick of him being outspoken on Islam in the US while judging those of us who do the same in the UK. Tommy Robinson, who Farage has condemned multiple times in appeasing the establishment he seems to so desperately want to be a part of, wrote on X in response to the interview in praise, actually, the strongest Nigel has spoken on Islam. It cannot go through Reformation as they believe the Quran to be the word of God.

The spread of Islam must be stopped. And indeed, Nigel went further, saying that Islamism is now embedded in our culture and what happened over the skies of Israel is very likely to spread here too. The worry I've got after today is to think about how deeply embedded much of this is within our own countries. And this is down to weak politicians and bad policies and belief that diversity trumps anything that our cultures have developed over the last 200 years. So today is, I think, most people will think, well, okay, it's all ended well, it's all going to be fine. Benny, it's not going to be fine. It's not going to be fine. this is the beginning of something very, very frightening.

Okay, good, good, good, good, good. It is. But start bringing that message here, okay? And stop attacking those of us who are desperate to bring that message to the wider British public. Farage also revealed new information that he claims reveals the Fairford Five. We're committing a dummy run of a terror attack outside of the RAF base likely for Iran. Why would they do that? I'm going to give you this.

I've not said this before. I'll say it to you exclusively. These five, and perhaps a few others involved, were a dummy run for a proper terrorist attack on US forces at RAF Fairford. And by one of the five ringing the emergency services, he was testing response times. He was testing what would happen if a serious attack took place. could the attackers get away? That is what I believe

was going on. Either way, I genuinely believe that. Now, they're out on bail, they've not been held because explosive weren't found. Are they linked to ultimately what would have been an act of barbarism? Yes.

And I'm deeply shocked. I'm deeply, deeply shocked that they're out on bail whilst there are other people in this country who've said things that the establishment now thinks are racists who were held inside behind bars without frankly proper charge. Okay, so he hasn't named him there, but he's referring to Danny Tomo. And this is great that we hear this from Nigel in America, but do you understand what I'm saying?

It's about time we hear that from him here in the United Kingdom. When he's on GB News, it's like he's a different man. I mean, I want to remind you of what Danny Tomo and the Patriot platform were, were previously dismissed as by Nigel Farage on G.B. News. We're also about Dover today. There's been barricaded by hundreds of masked individuals. What do you make of that? What's going on? Disgusted.

Nobody in any political protest, whether they're on the left or the right, should appear in balaclavas. It is wrong. It's sinister and worrying for people there. It's horrible. There's families in cars on the waiting on the M20 to get some holiday,

and they see all this happening around. them. Disgusting. Disgusting. Okay, so what's changed? You can understand where I'm coming from. Is it that Reform UK is now worried about the growing popularity of Danny Tomo's Patriot Platform movement, especially given that they see the group aren't going anywhere, despite their leader being locked up as they re-emerged this week, making their most direct pledged. to change the country forever if the invasion is allowed to continue. Now, Reform UK's Muslim Shadow Home Secretary, Zee Yusuf,

has become the party's most senior official to try and win the support of those sympathetic to daddy's cause by speaking out against his imprisonment directly today. This is brand new watch. It has now been charged with slashing a dinghy and refusing to give the police the pin number to his phone. And as a result of being charged, he has also been remanded into custody by a judge until next March.

I want you to compare his treatment to that of Mohammed Amaz, who smashed a female police officer in the face at Manchester Airport, broke her nose. When he was charged, the judge granted him unconditional bail. He was free to wander around unconditionally until his trial. So this is two very different treatments for two men who at that point had not yet been convicted of a crime. This is differential treatment. It is obviously preferential treatment too.

This is two-tier justice. This is what reform has been talking about now really for years. I'm afraid the British justice system is politicised. We have to acknowledge this. And we have to speak up against it. Yes, it is too tear justice. And is it any wonder when the establishment defined Tomo as some kind of terrorist under their own definition

of extreme right-wing terrorism. As Tommy Robinson exposed, this is what the UK government call extreme right-wing terrorism. Let that fucking seem to care. the definition includes cultural nationalism, which they describe as being a thinking that Western culture is under threat from mass migration and lack of integration by certain ethnic and cultural groups. Well, yeah. And white ethno-nationalism, which they describe as mass migration from the non-white world and demographic change posing an existential threat to the white race and Western culture. Well, yeah.

Of course. Goodness gracious me. Then we come to Tan Ikram. Now remember Tan Ikram was the Islamist judge who locked Danny Tomo up. But he has just been exposed by the independent journalist Stephen Edgington as an advisor to a Pakistani organisation that describes Suala Brabaman's comments about British Pakistani grooming gangs as reprehensible. He also travelled to Bradford specifically to encourage Pakistani lawyers

to join the bench. Watch. In an event in Bradford last year, Bradford is one of the most ethnically diverse cities in the UK. Lots and lots and lots of Pakistani practitioners in practice in that area. And I specifically went there to reach out to that particular group of lawyers. That was Tan Ikram, the Deputy Chief Magistrate for England and Wales, saying he went to Bradford to recruit Pakistani lawyers to become judges. Ickram himself is one of Britain's most controversial judges. One of his most recent rulings on the anti-migrant protester Danny Tomo has made national headlines after Icrum denied him bail. Now this guy has crazy form.

Ikram's previous rulings have also been controversial, including deciding not to punish three pro-Palestine activists who were accused of supporting Hamas after they did. displayed images of paragliders at a pro-Palestine rally, and this was after Hamas had used paragliders in the October 7th attacks to slaughter and murder Israeli civilians. He also didn't give a jail sentence to the woman who attacked Nigel Farage, which led to Nigel Farage accusing Ikram or pushing a two-tier justice system, and he sent a police officer to prison for sharing a racist joke on WhatsApp. His links with Pakistani and Muslim organisations are chilling too. I have done a major investigation into Tan Ikram and his links with Pakistani and Muslim organisations.

I've worked with the British Pakistani Professionals Forum or something. I can't know what they call in the UK to try to reach out to Muslim Pakistani background lawyers to try to encourage them to apply. Ikram is a really important individual. not only because he's one of the most senior judges in the country, but also because of his role in pushing diversity within the judicial system. It was discovered that he had liked a post on LinkedIn, which supported Palestine. Now, he said he did that accidentally, and when he was investigated, the judge essentially accepted that explanation,

but he was reprimanded for bringing the judicial system into disrepute, and for classifying himself as a judge on social media publicly. As reforms Robert Jenrick put it, Ikram should have been dismissed as a judge a long time ago. And the Pakistani rape yang survivor Fiona Goddard has told Edgington today, I find Tan Ikram's association with the British Pakistani Foundation deeply concerning as a survivor of Pakistani grooming gangs. To call them so-called grooming gangs is an insult to all survivors.

why is a senior judge connected to such a partisan group? Meanwhile, Andy Burnham's big success is releasing even more violent prisoners while freeing up prison space for Danny Tomo, who wants to save this country, and they're all thanking him on the way out. How many months were you released early? Nine months early. It was asked at the third wave mark of your sentence? Yeah, yeah, thanks, I ain't sure.

When did you go in? February last year. I see. I'm with the express that. Yeah. Can you have a message for Andy Burnham this morning with Prime Minister? Thank you. You got anything you want to say to Antiburnum?

Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Do you think it's right that people are being released early? Some people, yeah. There's not enough space in the jails. They've got to put proper criminals in there. And this chap says he's going to go and steal something ASAP. Yeah.

Do you have a message for the Prime Minister, Andy Burnham? Yeah. Stop, stop, stop sending people to prison it first. people who don't need to go help them before they get there. It should stop thinking about your money and think about people's health. Like I'm 50, I've been in and out of jail all my life. I've been in jail, 300, 300, I've been in jail,

I've got 360 convictions. It's help I need. I've got an addiction to stealing. Yeah, this didn't help me. I'm gonna have to go. What are you gonna do now? What's your plan for your first of your life? I don't know, I'm gonna go stealing again.

I'm gonna be stealing so I'm back in because they can help me time. What are you going to steal? Whatever I got. Whatever I got. So just remember all of those dudes are out early. The Fairford Five terror suspects were released on bail. Hugh Edwards, the paedophile from the BBC, didn't serve a single day inside. Yet Danny Tomo remains locked up. Now, the superstar panel. Christine and Neil Hamilton with me. So Neil, look, how on earth Can we trust this Islamist Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood, who I believe is practicing Tikia, when she is proudly caught on stage with this Allah necklace, which she has to admit, is about her Islamic faith, which she says drives every decision that she makes, Neil,

and is more important than the British Parliament, Neil. I mean, I would love to know what you think about that as a former MP of this country. and she's the one who just before he was jailed, specifically targeted Danny Tomo, specifically described him as racist, and specifically said they were going to come down on him with the full force of the law. I believe this is an Islamist plot, Neil.

I really do. Yeah, well, I think this is outrageous with all the developments which you've described in your introduction to this program really should cause people to wake up. You know, 100 odd years ago, H.G. Wells wrote a novel called The War of the Worlds. That, of course, was space science fiction. But what we're seeing today is another kind of war of the world, the totally different world of Islam,

compared with the Western culture, Judea, Christian culture, in which we've all grown up. And it's quite clear now that expansionist Islam around the world is moving in the direction which these examples that we've seen this afternoon indicate is going to be effectively the takeover. of the culture of our country if we are not careful. You know, there's been a massive expansion, explosion of the Muslim population of this country in the last 25 years. That's one generation. We've gone from virtually nothing to six and a half percent of our population. And it's going at that sort of rate for the foreseeable future unless something is done about it.

I do think that although obviously the majority of Muslims are peaceable people, Nevertheless, there are enough extremists and absolute nutters who have no thought of sacrificing their own lives in a kind of kamikaze attack on an aeroplane, that we should be deeply, deeply worried. And the fact that our Home Secretary comes out openly and says that the main spring of everything she does, every decision she takes, every policy that she introduces, every law that she promotes is the promotion of the Islamic faith, effectively, should make us deeply worried. Christine, do you trust this woman when she says this is the Allah symbol that drives everything I do? I don't trust her on many fronts. I mean, there's nothing wrong with somebody wearing, for example, a Christian cross.

They want to proclaim their religion. Yeah, and we're a Christian country. Precisely. But, and she is perfectly entitled to wear that piece of jewelry, which says God, but, as you say, she, A, she's the Home Secretary, B, we are a Christian country and our Christian values do not seek to undermine Muslim values. We think they're superior. It's our country.

That is our religion. And anybody in this country who wants to profess their Christian faith, there are plenty of people in positions of power, MPs, ministers, whatever, for whom their Christian faith is the most important thing in their life. There's nothing wrong with that because we are a Christian country and we do not seek to undermine other religions as a result. That's the division. I don't trust her, I think was your question.

I don't trust her at all. And after what you've just shown as now, I'm even more worried about it. When she first came along, she sort of talked tough, and it sounded as though at last we've got a Labour Home Secretary who does faintly get... Oh, rubbish. She was practising to Kia.

She was practising to care. She said what she had to say. And now, you'll remember at the conference this week, it's like she got the biggest chair for saying she's throwing our doors open once again to Palestinians and Afghans. Oh yeah, that's just what we need. But Neil, to me, it's the total two-tier nature.

So she goes for Danny Tomo. Goes for Danny Tomo. Describes him as racist. I mean, this guy doesn't have a racist bone in his body. Says that she's going to come after him with the full force of the law. Guess who she hasn't said a goddamn word about, Neil Hamilton. This dude, Yazun Munei, in the East London mosque, who is literally...

pushing this idea that male Muslims should beat their women. Not a word, Neil. I mean, by the way, there hasn't been a word about this guy from any Labour politician, but she is the Muslim Home Secretary and she has not said a word about him. So he is actually advocating for violence against women and gay people, not a word. Danny Tomo, who isn't advocating for violence against anyone, but is simply trying to protect our borders. She speaks out of it. against. Do you see what is happening here? Absolutely. Of course. You know, publicly calling for wives to be beaten if they refuse sex to their husbands is

Don't get any ideas, Neil. It's effectively condoning rape as well, isn't it? Of course. It's disgusting. I shouldn't joke about it. What is a Labour Home Secretary doing remaining absolutely silent on something as outrageous as that? You know, the Labour Party, which is stacked to the ceiling with the fairer, so-called feminist groups who are exceptionally militant when it's white people who they're attacking and Christians that they're attacking, go completely silent when you see a voice of Islam and imam encouraging his supporters and fellow adherents in the Muslim faith to commit crimes under English law.

Actually, it would be if they were to behave in the way that he is. recommending wife beating and forcing sex on a woman who doesn't want it. And by the way, throwing gay people off the top of buildings as well. I mean, Christine, I have been saying for years, Christine, that this is what has been taught in the mosques of East London. I know because I've actually spoken to people who've been de-radicalised, right, and used to be inside those mosques. Absolutely no investigation.

Then you have Muhammad, oh no, jihad, what was his name? Jihad al-Shammi, sorry, Jihad al-Shammi. you know, the Manchester terror attacker, caught on video in a mosque, planning a terror attack. Still no wider discussion, Christine, that we need to start getting into these mosques or shutting them down.

But people seem to be terrified of attacking, attacking in the verbal sense, attacking Muslims or the Muslim religion because you're then you're accused of being racist, etc, etc. But what that fellow, I mean, he didn't say beat your wife, he did sort of say lightly,

but that's not the point. The point is, It was the in-charge business. Show her who's boss. You know, you're the one who has to be obeyed. It doesn't matter whether it was beat or sort of tap lightly. She has to submit. Exactly.

The wife is inferior. Where are all these women in Parliament jumping up and down about that? Why aren't they creating Mary hell about that? And we're giving them charitable status, the mosque, which means we're giving them money. That's what charitable status means, because it means you can circumvent tax arrangements, etc. So we're giving money to people who advocate, yes, killing gays and subjugating women.

I mean, what the hell are all our female MPs doing, sitting on their asses in the House of Commons, banging on about Labrador's? Yeah, yeah. And we hear nothing about the segregation sexes in mosques, do we? And yet that's absolutely fundamental to the organisation of the Islamic faith. And so if that was the Church of England doing it, then there would be a massive act cry, wouldn't there? But in fact, the Church of Virginia may well move in that direction, I suppose, because they want to copy the Islamic religion because they think that these people are actually superior to us in many ways. That's the only way you can interpret the absurd way in which the Church of England has moved in recent years to not promote the Christian faith, but actively to suppress it in many ways, because they've submitted to the politically correct winds of change which have taken place in the last way.

30 years. And look at the wally that we've got as leader of the Church of England at the moment, Sarah Ball-Lally. I mean, for goodness sake. They do, Lally. Sarah do Lally. How couldn't she see that that photograph of her with those masked women was inappropriate. And a bloke, and a bloke, by the way, who had praised Osama bin Laden. But the problem is, this Islamism is spreading through so many parts of our establishment. And this investigation by Stephen Edgington, Neil, into Iqram, Tan Ikram, the judge who chose to lock Danny Tomo up is astonishing, truly astonishing. I mean, we have a politicised judiciary.

I think that we need to have a look at all his judgments and to see exactly how they conform to the standards which we expect of an English judge. And these decisions that we've identified today is mere hand. There may be many more questionable decisions that need to be looked at. I do hope that Danny Tomo is going to appeal against the refusal of bail, obviously, because it seems to me that this is an ideal candidate for an appeal. And in the course of that appeal, we might then find out a lot more about Tanweir, what's an e-cromb, and what he's been doing as the Deputy Chief Magistrate of England and Wales.

This is a very serious and important position to hold. and he is actually a political activist first and foremost, it seems to me. And he is vigorously promoting, not just diversity, but in fact he is promoting attitudes, which I think are antipathetic to the principle of the rule of law and fairness and justice, the principles of natural justice, which we've grown up with as lawyers in England. And if you bend over backwards to favour one minority over the majority, I don't. see that that's diversity at all. In fact, I think it threatens the whole basis of justice where justice is supposed to be blind. You're on the top of the old Bailey in London, you've got

a statue of justice blindfolded holding the scales of justice which are balanced. Well, I don't think anybody looking at the decision in relation to Danny Tomo and the other decisions that this judge has taken were people who are, in my view, far more dangerous potentially, have got off with lighter treatment. I mean, which I have not been sentenced to anything as yet. He's not been convicted of anything yet, but he's been deprived of his liberty for the next six months at least.

We don't know exactly when the trial is going to take place. The timetable may well slip. He will have served a very significant period of deprivation of liberty, and yet he may well at the end of the day be a judge to have been innocent throughout all this. So I think this is a most outrageous decision which calls for an appeal.

Do you know, that decision had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the law, and that judge knew it perfectly well. It was done for one reason and one reason only, and that was to get Tomo out of the way. So he could no longer be a... Yes, 100%. That's all it's about.

It's got nothing. I mean, that fellow ought to be struck off the bench. He really should. I mean, that was such a political decision. It's outrageous. And especially when you compare it to some of the ones you've already mentioned, people who get let off scot-free when they've done far worse.

I mean, you know, go back to the people who push the... statue of Colson into the harbour at Bristol. They were let off, Scott Free. Have you or I? They were acquitted by jury. Well, look at all that the people have been released today. Look at the fact that the Fairford five terror suspects are literally walking the streets. How can you say that they pose no danger when you've got the president of the United States of America

describing them as terrorists? And then you have the paedophile Hugh Edwards who was not behind bars for a single day. Christine, they wanted Danny Tomo out the way. MacMood admitted that. This is the problem they are hiding in plain sight, Christine. They're not even really able to conceal their shocking motives anymore. When you consider, I mean, the Home Secretary is one of the great offices of state. And if you look back over the years, with a few exceptions,

it's been held by some deeply important special serious people. And now we have a political activist, as Home Secretary. It's, it's, words fell me, they really do. Oh. And another interesting thing I thought in the video of Tanweer Ikram, talking about his own family background. He was talking about his mother. They came to this country in 1965 and yet she says, even 60 years later, she doesn't really speak English. So these people that have not integrated into British society and there are enough of them who don't want to integrate into British society which should make us fear for the future. future because once minorities get to above a certain percentage of the population, then they

separate themselves out into their own communities. They don't get absorbed. They then have a different agenda very often that they want to expand their own population and numbers. So they then become the majority and the people who have grown up and for generations in this country become the minority. This is the cultural clash, which you started off by referring to at the beginning of the program which I described as the war of the world and you know we need to wise up about this because this is happening to our country whilst our government of course is not only sedulously but openly promoting it look at the events of the Labour Party conference over the last few days the way a milliband went berserk waving his arms around like a windmill

and handing out 88 million pounds to Gaza. Where's that money going to go? There is no civil administration in Gaza. We know that it's a terrorist outfit which is controlling the Gaza Strip. And look at the way that Burnham, since he's been the Labour leader, has fallen over backwards

to promote the interests of anti-Israel. And the Islamic forces in this country which he sees as a pot of votes for the Labour Party. He's in competition with the even more crackpot greens, not to mention the Gaza independence. And so the Labour Party is moving quite obviously in the direction of supporting extremist and violent movements. They won't do this openly,

but the effect of their words is to promote the interests of these people who want to see the destruction of everything that we regard as the essence of British people. British civilization. Okay. I want to have an honest conversation about the late Esther Ranssen. And the problem is, is that as soon as you try and do something like this, you have the mainstream media piling on. And I start by saying that I have great respect, and I had great respect for Esther Ranssen. She is a woman I knew for well over 20 years. She is someone who regularly appeared on my former show on GB News. And she was a TV legend. We absolutely cannot deny that and I will not deny that.

And we will celebrate that side of her today. But Esther Ranson had a mixed legacy because her campaigning to allow the state to be able to kill individuals was highly controversial, as was her position that the unvaccinated during the COVID pandemic should be left to die. should be left to die by the National Health Service, even if these innocent individuals who simply had decided not to have an experimental jab were suffering from a heart attack or a stroke. And so because I have respect for you, my audience, because I have respect for Esther Ranson and the fact that she knew that her views were controversial

and that she wanted to debate things, I will respectfully have that conversation today. But that has immediately led to a mainstream media pile on In this afternoon, both the Daily Star and the Daily Express are attacking me directly. The Daily Star has published this piece headline Esther Ranson Tribute branded vile as furious viewers hit out at presenter. They're talking about me. The Daily Express, too, have also said vile Esther Ranson Tribute sparks outrage as presenter is branded disgusting. And they report Dan Witten has been slammed for what people have described as a vile

tribute to Dame Esther Ranson after her death. Well, there was absolutely nothing vile about my tribute. Actually, I think it was completely honest. Indeed, I just want to get up my ex account and actually read you directly what I said about Esther Ransson. And you can be the judge if the Daily Express and the Daily Star are telling the truth by describing this tribute as vile. I posted. I always. I always respected Esther Anson debating me, even though we disagreed on most issues. Her TV legacy is unmatched. Her health legacy is mixed. The unvaxed will never forget her telling me in this appearance on GB News that they should be left to die. May she rest in peace. Now, is there anything vile about that? Or was it honest? Because you can't just whitewash someone's legacy when it

was mixed, which is what we've seen all of the mainstream media do. So this is how the BBC opened its 10pm bulletin with a straightforward tribute overnight. Hello to you. The broadcaster and campaigner Dame Esther Ransson has died at the age of 86. She'd been living with lung cancer. She became a household name presenting and producing the BBC program that's life for over two decades, championing, consuming, rights often with humor. A tireless campaigner, she founded the charity Child Lime, and after her own health deteriorated,

became a prominent supporter of assisted dying. Tonight, her family said she was the most wonderful mother and cherished grandmother, who will be remembered for her endless capacity for joy. While the Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, shared a post on social media, thanking her for changing countless lives and giving voice to people who often went unheard. Katie Razl has our top story tonight.

I look back at the life of a woman who did so much for so many. And their long-prepared special report by Katie Razl pointed out there was a time when Esther Ranssen's power was on a level of the late Queen and Margaret Thatcher, thanks to the dominance of That's Life. That's Life made its producer and presenter Esther Ranssen a household name. At me, ma'am's ladies. I hope your mum does not see this. A blend of investigative campaigning journalism.

Is it time now to make rear seatbelts compulsory for children? Saucy humour. It's never a question of size, sir. It's a question of quality. A dog that said... And those wonky vegetables sent in by that's life's up to 20 million Sunday night viewers. Two potato hearts for Valentine's Day. With Esther and her boys, as they were often called at her side.

At the time, the three most powerful people in the country were probably the... the Queen Margaret Thatcher and Esther Anson and not necessarily in that order. And it was a lovely focus on what was an incredible TV career. A TV star was born. And when that's life took on the Braden's Week formula, that included the street interviews Esther relished. She's a snail, man. You're brandy and that's whiskey.

You're quite wrong. Am I? Have another, have another girl. I'll have another girl. She even got arrested. You're arrested. Sorry. I've just been arrested for handing out bats too.

It was my dad. It was incredibly rare for women of such talent to be recognised in broadcasting in those days. It was just wonderful. TV from another time. That didn't upset me at all. But what did upset me is that there was no acknowledgement that her views on health were far from universally accepted and actually hugely devolved. and controversial, like the state putting people to death.

And the BBC treated that. And towards the end of her life, to support the campaign for assisted dying after she was diagnosed with terminal cancer. The eyes to the right, 330. MPs first voted to allow assisted dying for people in England and Wales with less than six months to live. But the bill stalled in the House of Lords. When it was reintroduced in the Commons, MPs voted against it.

The nose to the left, 286. Yay! Esther's last public campaign ended in failure. But outside Parliament, on a phone call with her daughter Rebecca, she remained defiant. I am sure a change in the law will come. I am deeply sad that it will come soon enough for many of the people who need it. Now, that was massively controversial, and the bill was defeated. Quite rightly, though, there has also been a major focus on what was an incredible piece of television,

possibly the greatest piece of television ever created in 1988. And this was about Nicholas Winton, the man who had organised the rescue of 669 children from the Nazis in 1939. Indeed, it was such an incredible piece of television. It was recently made into an entire movie about the moment. called One Life. I should tell you that you are actually sitting next to Nicholas Winton. For many, though, Esther will be remembered for one remarkable piece of television. When in 1988, she introduced Nicholas Winton, the man behind the Czech Kinder Transport,

to some of the people he'd saved from the Nazis as children. Can I ask, is there anyone in our audience tonight who owes their life to Nicholas Winton? If so, could you stand up, please? Mr. Winton, would you like to turn around? Oh my God, it always gets me. And it is actually just worth looking at that moment uninterrupted because, as I say, I think this is probably the greatest piece of television ever made. If they hadn't been rescued and brought over to England,

these children would have been killed by the Nazis. But in fact, they were saved by an English stockbroker called Nicholas Winton. In all, Nicholas Winton and the committees who helped him manage to save 664 children. This is his scrapbook. There are all kinds of fascinating pictures in it. But back here you will see is the list of all the children and the foster families who took them in. This is Vera Deermont when she was 10. Now she's Vera Gissing. Until we told her this week, she had no idea that Nicholas Winton had in fact arranged her rescue. But we did find her name Vera Diamant, as she was then, on his list.

Vera Gissing is with us here tonight. Hello, Vera. And I should tell you that you are actually sitting next to Nicholas Winton. It got even more extraordinary. We asked as many as possible of these grown-up children to get in touch with us, so they'd have the chance to thank Mr. Winton personally. Can I ask, is there anyone in our audience tonight who owes their life to Nicholas Winton? If so, could you stand up, please?

Mr. Winton, would you like to turn round? You all had the chance to meet these people properly after the programme. In the meantime, Mr. Winton, on behalf of all of them, thank you very much indeed. Absolutely wonderful. But in Esther Ranssen's mixed legacy, I won't just talk about assisted diet. and I won't just talk about her friendship with Jimmy Saville, which obviously has also been left out all of the coverage over the past 24 hours, but also what Esther Ranson argued during COVID,

where she was very clear that the unvaccinated should be left to die. Now, this has received absolutely no coverage at all, at all, not even on GB News. and I wanted to acknowledge that for many Esther's legacy forever changed during that pandemic where she advocated for inhumane and extreme treatment of those who refused the experimental jab. And I was involved in this too because, and I'm sure you'll see that I was respectful as I always was with Esther Ransson, but it did include a memorable clash on my former show on GB News where I challenged her on those. views. Why can't we trust the over 60s to make a decision that's right for them, given that

vaccine take up in this country has been amongst the highest in the world? We are very sensible. We over 65s, there's no question. I've had three jabs, and with alacrity, and I regard it as a real privilege. I think the problem with this virus is that it's incredibly sexist and racist and ageist. I mean, people are going down like nine pins, aren't they? Still, I mean, the numbers are still enormously high. Cases. Cases. She then advocated for anyone on Vax to refuse any treatment whatsoever and a prospect that horrified me, and I think you can see that it horrified me. If we oldies are prepared to say, okay, if I get COVID, I won't take any resources of the NHS, I shall stay at home and fall off my perch here,

then, okay, you have the right to say you refuse all medical help, be it a vaccine or be it the ICU. But that's not the sort of society we want. If you expect nurses and doctors to look after you, you must protect them and you must make sure they can prioritize people. But it was in this clip that everything blew up. It was the answer to my second question when I asked Esther directly if those who were not faxed should be left to die at home from a stroke or a heart attack. So you would want to ban the unjabbed from being able to access health services? Now I'm saying you've got to make that decision yourself. It's your choice. If you decide that you don't want a vaccine or a booster, then you can decide not to go to hospital however ill you get. And that way, that is your right. So you would leave the unjabbed at home to die if they had a heart attack, if they suffered from a stroke? That's their choice. If they're unjabbed, if they take the decision, they're not going to use the medical evidence, follow the science as we see.

say, recognize because what the boosters do is not only protect you, they protect other people because you transmit the infection far less. Although you can still transmit even if you are triple jab. Cheryl Baker isn't the point that this is a free country and one of the fundamental principles is that we have control over our own bodies and what we choose to put in our bodies. Now I would hope that you would accept that the discussion that we've had over the past few moments is an honest tribute to Esther Ransson's entire legacy, which is why it's so disgusting that the Daily Express has just picked out, well, I've just seen in their article, two comments attacking me. They say his post immediately

sparked outrage with many criticizing his tribute. One wrote, imagine being such disgusting individual that you purposefully with vile intent, shroud an obitry with a play at division and hate, what a vile person, Wooten is. They say a second fumed, and now you grift on another dead person, she couldn't stand you, much like so many others. Well, that was a selective choice from the Daily Express, because that is not the reaction to my post. And that was certainly not how Esther Anson felt about me. We had great respect for each other. And the only reason she would come on my show on GB News is because she was treated with respect. We knew we disagreed on most issues, but we treated each other with respect. But I have seen a lot of alternative takes on Esther Anson's

death that have not been presented at all in the mainstream media like Dr. Wolf, who posted, I suppose this is where we all have the usual suspects virtue signaling how heartbroken they are. Esther Anson has died. But I won't be she. getting tears for someone who thought young unvaccinated people should be refused to NHS treatment and allowed to drop dead. No bodily autonomy. Or from Jane Rochford Bolan, who posted winner talented, well love celebrity passes on. I always like to add a tribute in how much I will miss them. I will miss Dolly Parton and Tim Curry, who both sadly passed on this year.

Esther Ranssen has died aged 85, rest in peace and all I can say is, may God forgive her. and Nick Buckley, the former Reform UK candidate, added a woman who did so much public good, but ended up representing evil, rest in peace. Now, to my superstar panel, Christine and Neil Hamilton, I haven't said at all, by the way, that Esther Anson represented evil. I just thought it was right to have a full discussion, because what I'm seeing the mainstream media do is act as if this a sister dying bill, for example, was just completely non-controversial and just a wonderful thing to do,

whereas a lot of people actually believe this was an attempt to allow state sanctioned killings of potentially healthy people. She wanted to go to Dignitas herself. Now again, we can have that debate, but just to pretend that this was a totally accepted point of view, and just to pretend that Esther Anson had not advocated for the state not saving the unvaccinated. during COVID. Personally, I believe it's dishonest. I hope you both think I've tackled this in a respectful way, unlike the sort of vile approach that the Daily Express and Daily Star claim that I've been taken. But I'm just wondering how you both feel about this, and if you knew Esther Ranson personally. Yes, we did. I mean, we met her a lot,

appeared on her shows and goodness knows what. And very much remember all her extraordinary business on That's Life. And in particular, the Nicholas Winterton show, which is you say. Winton. What did I say? Winterton. Oh, sorry, Winton. Which was one of the most extraordinary pieces of television. I mean, I disagreed 100% with Esther over assisted dying. It's a very, very difficult problem, and I'm very conflicted about it,

but at the end of the day, I come down on the opposite side to Esther. So I'm very glad that the bill didn't pass. And I'm also very much against her on COVID, too. I mean, we had the jabs we had to have, I think it was two, in order to travel because we needed to go to a wedding as it happened. Otherwise, we wouldn't have had them if we've been able to just stick at home. But we've never had any of the others. And Neil will, well, he'll tell you for himself, it was vehemently opposed to the whole thing. So, I mean, yes, she has a very mixed legacy.

I think on the whole, she was a force for good. And setting up child line was an extraordinary thing to do. And then she set up silver line. It's difficult. it was easy to forget now that children had nowhere to go, abused children. And what did they do? They were stuck at home with abusive father, whatever.

And she gave them this lifeline. And I loved Silverline. And this is actually, Neil, how I first got to know her when I was a young reporter. And she was great. You know, she'd always answer your calls. She'd always help you with stories. She wasn't arrogant like a lot of the TV celebrities are today.

but obviously nearer the end of her life, Neil, she did take on a more controversial position. Yeah, of course she was entitled to her views, but they were on controversial subjects. So it's only to be expected that the people who had very different views from her should be entitled in an obituary to draw attention to the things which they think were not part of the legacy which they would wish to see her remembered for.

And when you look at the way that Margaret Thatcher's death was treated, for example, and the absolutely vile things that were said about her by lefties on social media, there's nothing incompational. I mean, you could not possibly fairly or credibly actually be considered vile in any shape or form for what you said in very measured form about these two very, very controversial areas of law that was imposed. Totally. And the thing is there's always a fine line, and I appreciate there's always a fine line. I mean, look, we saw the most revolting way that the left reacted after the assassination of Anne Whittaker or the assassination of Charlie Kirk or even after the natural death of Margaret Thatcher.

But I hope everyone can see that there's something very different having a well-rounded discussion like I hope we've had today about Esther Anson than sort of celebrating and clapping and post-eastern. pictures in a bin on their way to hell, like the left did after the death of the aforementioned people. Okay, breaking right now, a 27-year-old UK-Iranian national man has just been arrested by counter-terrorism police on suspicion of repairing terrorist acts. This, of course, over the RAF Fairford plot. The suspect we are told was arrested in the borough of Westminster, London, a second man, 26, who is a UK national, has also been questioned under caution. Searches of two properties have also been carried out in the same area. Now, the Senior National Coordinator for Counterterrorism Policing Vicky Evans has just said

this investigation into circumstances surrounding events in Gloucestershire is hugely complex and our specialist teams are interrogating multiple lines of inquiry. As we have made clear, we're looking at all possible angles, including possible foreign state involvement. I'd like to thank the public for their continued support and patience while we work through this investigation. Of course, five men in their 20s who are arrested on Sunday remain on police bail. So, Neil, do you think we're getting closer to the truth here? I mean, what does this mean? a 27-year-old UK-Iranian national male.

So first link to Iran, Neil. But of course, we don't know the ethnicity of these other five men. We're told by British nationals, but we were also told that Axel Ruda Kavana was a Welsh choir boy, for God's sake. Well, when I see the descriptions in these circumstances, if you don't get anything more than British citizen, you know it's an absolute racing certainty that you'll find that there'll be beardy, weird.

Islamic adherents who are behind it. And I have every expectation that's what will be revealed in due course. And I really do think that, you know, Nigel Farage is onto something here, that this may well have been a dummy run for another terrorist outrage in due course. These people are well-organised. They're well-funded by Iran, of course. And we know that they have an agenda to take over our countries and our own culture

and impose their own upon the rest of us. So, you know, we need to wise up about this, as we were saying, in the first segment of the programme today. And, you know, we live not that far away from Fairford. It hasn't affected us in terms of inconvenience or anything. But, you know, if ever we travel in an aeroplane, then we're entitled, I think, to be concerned

if somebody is embedded in the system who is in a position, as the co-pilot was in this terrorist incident that we were talking about earlier, to attack a pilot. So who knows what is going to turn out at the end of this investigation. But I think we're entitled to be worried about it and we should change our methods of behaviour accordingly in our own interests. But, Christine, it is still astonishing. Sorry, Christine, but just to say,

is still astonishing that the five men arrested were allowed out on bail. While Danny Tomo is not, I cannot get my head around it. Outrageous. It's inexplicable. It's unbelievable. And it's what happens in this country today. But what I was going to say was I would just like to make it clear that Mr and Mrs. Hamilton have no problem with people who have beards. Just to say, beardy weird.

Important clarification. It's missing everybody with a beard. We have plenty of friends. Friends who have bears, we do not have a problem with bears. Very important clarification. Our friends may be beardy, but they're not weirdy. So just a reminder of that breaking news, a 27-year-old UK Iranian National, who is a man, has now been arrested by counter-terrorism police on suspicion of repairing terrorist attacks over the RAF Fairford plot.

So there you go. Donald Trump has obviously described the... men as terrorists and said that they should never have been released on bail. This is huge. The potential next Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Nigel Farage, has just vowed to deport Megan Markle when he enters number 10 Downing Street. And I think this could be a vote winner, you know? Like, seriously, it may not please. Members of the British establishment, but it may be.

may well just make Nigel Farage PM. This was in an astonishing new interview with the US independent broadcaster Benny Johnson, where Nigel Farage specifically branded both Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's behaviour as an absolute disgrace. But what was interesting is he seems to be pointing the finger squarely at Megan Markle while saying that he now feels sorry for a hapless Prince Harry watch. the behaviour of Meghan, of Harry been an absolute disgrace and now they're back in the UK

living here for who knows how long and somehow I can't help it I sort of almost now begin to feel a bit sorry for Harry because it's the classic tale of the weak man and the strong woman who uses her wiles

and leads him and leads him I mean, Shakespeare was on this. The Bible was on this. There's nothing new in this. It's a classic tale. And Harry, you know, his service in Afghanistan, his cheekiness, he's loving for a party, lots of pretty girlfriends. I mean, he was the most popular role for 100 years, for 100 years.

People loved him. And there he is now with Megan. I think he's made a bad life. And when Benny begged Nigel, not to deport Megan Markle back to the USA, Farage revealed his secret plan. I really hope that you do not deport, please. I mean, I'm asking you as a friend, do not deport Megan Markle back to America. This is one of the greatest things England is done,

it's giving us our independence. I mean, we really appreciate all of this. Our independence from Megan Markle is actually wonderful. You might get her back. You might get her back if I'm in charge. I beg of you. I beg of you. You know, you've already sent back Ellen DeGeneres.

We thought you'd take her forever. And Rosie, it seems like she's coming back. I believe she's in Ireland, though. So it's a little less of your problem. But yes, you are, I mean, you've already shipped back Ellen DeGeneres from the Cotswold. It's too bad. Listen, listen, hey, hang on. Hang on.

You gave us woke. You gave us woke. You're getting Ellen back, all right? It's a pretty fair, babe. To the superstar panel, Christine and Neil Hamilton. Neil Hamilton, look, Nigel Farage has been slumping in the polls recently. I put it to you, Neil, that actually, if he campaigned, and I'm not even joking, if he campaigned on a policy of deporting Meghan Markle, I genuinely believe Reform UK would go up

that that's sort of around the 20% mark at the moment they need to really get to 40% to guarantee a majority. I think it would happen. she is the most unpopular woman in the country. I think this is actually genuinely a very sensible political position from Nigel Farage. And is he right, Neil? Should she be deported? I mean, she's been treacherous, hasn't she in the past? You know, in days gone by Neil, and I'm obviously not advocating for this,

she would have had her head chopped off in the tower, so why not just deport? Well, there's no doubt that she has done untold damage to the royal family. and I suppose that is akin to treason who certainly would have been in medieval times but now I think that let's take a middle course instead of sending her back to the US why don't we send her to Rwanda

to take her one of those places that we paid for which are currently unused the Americans are using them apparently they're taking our spaces but I mean honestly that apparently being serious for a moment I have no insight into it Actually, I thought Ellen DeGeneres, or however you pronounce it,

I thought she was still in the Cotswolds. There she is. Well, she was with Megan the other day. Yeah. And it's very interesting because I don't think it's worked out for her. She doesn't like the weather. She's spending far too much time in America. But the problem for her is that, of course, she made this big song and dance

about never wanting to go back to the United States of America while Donald Trump was president. So she's having to sort of style it out. But look, for me, I thought this was great from Nigel. I think, to be honest, I think they'll both go back fairly soon. I mean, it just has worked. No, it's totally failed. It's totally fair. They don't like her. The Cotswold set don't like her. She demands her own special parking space in this exclusive club, Soho Farmhouse thing, whatever it's called. where loads of celebrities go, and they just get on with their business of being celebrities

and nobody bothers them, the beckons and all that sort of thing. She, of course, has to have this at the other, and the children have to have armed guards and outriders and cannons and goodness knows what to get them to school. I mean, it's absurd. She's behaving like a ridiculous plonker, frankly, and the sooner they both go back, the better. But yes, come on, Nigel, a vote winner, you're quite right.

But we can't wait for that. Nigel doesn't think we're going to have to wait long for an election. He thinks there's going to be one next year, so maybe that's it. But Dickie Arbiter, who does know about these things, reckons they'll be off again to America fairly soon. And it can't come too soon. Sorry, Benny. Absolutely.

Well, Christine, look, you mention this incident at the schools. And I'm actually totally furious about this, Christine. Because when you think about what has gone on over the past month, First, they removed Archina Leigh from their first school after two days and claimed that it was for security reasons. Security reasons because, you know, they couldn't form a convoy on the way to the school. That didn't work. So they moved the kids to a new school and now they have had a big new security claim. suggesting that these two paparazzi photographers actually posed some type of threat to them

with comparisons to the situation at RAF Fairford, which I think is just so completely irresponsible, actually, because as we have learned over the past 2448 hours, this is actually a very, very serious potential international terrorism plot. And it's nothing like a couple of photographers turning up outside of school. Now you can have a debate, and I've said you can have a debate about whether that is moral, whether it's morally correct that there should be paparazzi photographers outside the school. But they are actually wasting police time by reporting this to the police because it's not illegal. You can't just report something to the police that you morally disagree with. I believe they should actually be investigated for wasting police time because it's a very serious issue.

Anyway, we now have Di Davies, who is the highly respected regulatory. guest hair actually highly respected former chief of royal protection coming out and branding this whole thing as just a cynical plot. And this is from the Sun, which reports that Harry and Megan have been branded shameless after comparing paparazzi outside their children's school to the Fairford Anti-Terror Swoop. In a statement, a spokesman for the Sussex's branded the perhaps reckless and irresponsible and drew comparisons with the terror alert at the US Air Base in Fairford, Gloucestershire at the weekend. But the move has been branded. by royal commentators as a calculated and cynical strategy forming part of their bid to force

the home office to give them taxpayer fund security. Di Davies, former head of Met Police Security for the royal family, blasted the latest Sussex's so-called security drama as, quote, nonsense. British newspapers abide by a code of ethics, which prevents photos of children at school without permission. And he added every week, their so-called security team has to come up with new things. Papparazzi is not a security incident. It is just to be expected. It's not unrealistic to expect some paparazzi who will chance their arm. The security team can deal with that easily. If you look at the track record, such as the New York car incident, they are nothing of real consequence. I hope Ravec-a can't swayed and common sense prevails as all the

incidents amount to sweet FAA. There's no comparison to Fairfitt. It's bordering on shameless but ridiculous as well. So that to me is actually the real situation and I think Di Davis has got it completely right. But I want to show you both what happened last night on our state broadcaster, the British Bashing Corporation, which is in cahoots with Prince Harry and Megan Markle. And the entire framing during the flagship news night program was that Harry and Megan should get state-funded security. Watch. It is no secret that Harry and Megan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, now living back in the UK, want taxpayer-funded protection for their family.

They don't have that right now. They have their own private security. Duke is fifth in line to the throne, his children, sixth and seventh, respectively. Anonymous needs reminding how he feels about the safety and protection of those he loves after what happened to his mother. Well, today the couple condemned the, quote,

extraordinary recklessness of an international photographer for looking into the grounds of the school that their children go to. Oh, and guess what? They then bring in Scott Haynes. Now, here's an ex-Royal guard who just happened to completely disagree with Di Davies and echo this link to RAF Fairford. Watch. Let's speak to a man who was personal protection officer for five years to King Charles when he was the Prince of Wales. You can see Scott Hamer there next to Prince Charles.

He was in that job between 2015 and 2020. Welcome to Newsnight, Mr. Hamer. First of all, what do you make of this incident? I think it's quite worrying really. You think with what happened last week at RAF Fairford, you've got some gentlemen in a white van acting suspiciously. It's not a good thing to do. I think it's also quite reckless, as the Prince has said,

in the fact that foreign journalists are trying to find pictures of the children in the UK. So thank goodness for Andrew Neal, who was the only person to bring any sense to this discussion, and he actually went head-to-head with the Labour MP Chris Curtis, who is just echoing nonsense about the couple being under threat while admitting he actually has no idea if they are under threat. I didn't ask them to come back to Britain, did you? British people didn't ask them to come back to Britain.

They don't have to be in Britain. We don't really know why they are in Britain. They still have a home in California. And of course, if there is any intelligence-led discovery of threat to them, and intelligence services will be monitoring all that, they will be alerted, and then they could get some protection if it was specific. But in general, I think they should pay for their own security as anybody else has to as well. It's not really true.

I mean, they can decide where they live. They're British citizens. They have as much right to be in Britain as you or I do. I didn't say they're not right. I just don't have a right for us to pay. I don't think it's, well, but I feel like the implication of what you were saying was they should be considering their own security when deciding whether they live in Britain. I think they have, they shouldn't have to consider that because they should feel safe and secure living in Britain if that's where they want to live. And he acted as if the risk hasn't

actually been judged by the King's courts. For one factor and one factor alone, and that is risk. If they are in danger, then the British state has a responsibility to them, like it has a responsibility to any other citizen, including all of us on this panel, to keep them safe and secure and to do whatever is necessary. Now, I don't know if there is risk. I don't know if there is a risk, that's not for me to decide, but if there is, that obviously the British state has a responsibility to keep them safe and give them the security of the bending. But if it's not a risk, then they don't. Well, and that's why it's important.

It's not just risk, so it's threats and risk, but there's also the impact of it. And like I've just said a few minutes ago, is that the impact of the Kingsome being assassinated or attacked is quite far-reaching. So, Christine, I think what you see there in the framing of that discussion on Newsnight is that, These paparazzi photographers did pose some type of security risk, which is of course not true. There is always going to be a risk to any individual, okay? You can never completely mitigate risk. But this is all about managing risk. And it is very, very clear that if the state feels there is a genuine risk to Prince Harry's security,

then he would be provided security. But there is no ongoing risk. no matter how much he tries to cook up all of these false flag issues. Oh, sorry, Christy. Can you just start? My mic's muted. Okay, that's better. It's no wonder the BBC want them to have public funds for security

because the BBC operates on public funds. It's all they know about somebody else's money. So it's no surprise that that's where they're coming from. No, it's absurd. I mean, you know, that MP fellow completely twisted what Andrew Neal said. He didn't say they have no right to come to this country. of course they've got every right to come here, but they also have to accept the consequences and they don't get public-funded security unless there is. If there was a sudden risk,

if, am I whatever, got wind that there was a risk of kidnapping the kids or whatever, then they would leap in and they would be there. But they're not just going to have general security, which is what they want, to make them feel important, probably. I mean, they can go and live in Montessito with all the security they want, it's probably gated and goodness knows what they've got. somewhere in Portugal they can go to. I mean, for goodness sake, stop bleating on. They come here of their own choice and they should look after themselves security-wise.

He may be the fifth in line to the throne, but thank God that's a very long way away. Yeah, I mean, Neil, I actually think there is more of a motivation financially, actually, as to why they wanted. I think it is partly because, of course, they want to feel important. They don't want to pretend that they're private citizens just like you or me.

But, Neil, they were warned explicitly. I covered it in detail at the time. You know, the Sandrine and Summit, which took place in early 2020, they were warned explicitly. You must think of the consequences of what you were doing. You will never receive security again. And indeed, for the first year, that sort of transition period, and a lot of people forget this. King Charles, then Prince Charles, actually personally funded 12 months of security because he was hoping that over that 12 months, they might sort of wake up and realize, oh, my,

goodness, what are we going into? This is a big mistake. Let's come back. All is forgiven. But they didn't do that. And at the time, Neil, they thought, oh, we're going to be getting hundreds of millions from Netflix every couple of years and we're going to be able to afford security for the rest of our lives. Now they're in financial dire straits. The money is drying up and they're looking at a security bill of well over $5 million a year and they're wanting us to pay for it. And the problem is, Neil, I know how this Ravik thing works. Once you get the security, It's very, very difficult to take it away. And the security, Neil, covers wherever they are in the world.

So, you know, as Christine says, Megan goes back to Montecito, and she's going to be spending most of her time in Montecito. Trust me on that. We're paying for a whole team, a whole team, Neil, to fly out to Montecito. And you know what that team then does, Neil? If Megan Markle says, oh, well, I'm going to dinner at this posh restaurant in Los Angeles tonight, one team has to go and recie that location while another team stays with Megan Markle

at the house. It's ludicrous. Why on earth should we be paying for that? We shouldn't. We shouldn't. We shouldn't. Well, they were told explicitly all those years ago that if they were working members of the royal family,

then they would be entitled to security. But they didn't want to be working members of the royal family. they just wanted to use the royal family as part of their brand to make money, and they wanted us to pay for it. Well, it isn't going to happen. And it would be outrageous, actually, if money which could be spent on all the other things that we need to spend money on in the health service or roads or transport.

Prisons. Prisons were spent on them in their gilded cage, rather than upon the people of this country who pay their taxes and are deprived of all sorts of things that they actually need. I know a bit about security. I was a minister in the Northern Ireland office at the height of the troubles. And when I was in Northern Ireland,

I had armed protection. Even if I went for a walk in the garden, a Hillsborough Castle, which was where the Secretary of State's official residences, where I stayed, if I was on duty in Northern Ireland, if I went for a walk in the garden, I was accompanied by armed men. But when I got back this side of the water in Great Britain,

I had no protection because the threat was regarded as much, much less than, obviously, in Northern Ireland itself at that time. I just accepted that as everybody did. Lots of people like me who were on IR lists and could have been targets for assassination or whatever. But we didn't take the kind of attitude which the Sussexes are taking to our predicament at that time. There was a real security threat. The IRA were conducting a bombing campaign. not just in Northern Ireland, but also in Great Britain.

And so you accept in certain circumstances, people do deserve to have it. That is fascinating. You can't do it for everybody. No, of course, because that is the thing. There are finite resources. And the public, I think, completely understand that you're actually talking about the equivalent

of hundreds of police officers being off the streets to protect one individual, which is why these judgments have to be made. And it is interesting. You say that, Neil, because even today, the Northern Ireland Secretary is one of the few members of Cabinet, I believe, who actually do get full-time security along with, I think it's the Foreign Secretary and a couple of other high-profile ones. But look, do stand by because Prince Harry is actually nominated to be named our worst Britain in the world today. We're going to get to those results shortly. First, though, to the feedback.

You're going to vote against yourself. To the feedback, Juliet Johnson says, Charles, Fergie and Andrew have done far more. damage to the royal family than Megan. But Monti Fee says Harry and Megan are the perfect definition of the phrase, let them eat cake. Nila Rock ZZ says Harry's family is no more important than the children of this country who are unsafe because of the invasion of this country. And Katie 8100 says it tells you everything about Harry and Megan that the BBC are on their side. Gary JG 772 says, Apparently nobody in Ultra Montecito likes them, either. That is most definitely true. And Tan Schla, 6700, says Megan wants security, so she will look important.

And this did make me laugh from Sarah Baker. You're very funny. Sarah Baker F2R says even terrorists are not interested in Harry and Megan. Naughty. But I like it because we are naughty here. Of course, Prince Harry is nominated for the aforementioned reasons. Neil Hamilton has nominated Alex Norris for the early. prison release scheme. And Christine Hamilton has nominated Jenny Riddell Carpenter for saying that a vision of Brits drinking more mail and pubs with Black Labrador's by their feet is far right. And she says, Black Labs Matter. And it was close, Christine. Alex Norrisen, third place with 19%

of the vote. Jenny Radal Carpenter, the runner up with 39% of the vote. But I've won today. Prince Harry, the worst Britain in the world with 41% of the vote. Now, who have you guys nominated to be the greatest Britain today? We have nominated. I have to look down. Oh, you put his name up. Thank goodness to that. Captain Smith, Macha. Anyway, the fellow who saved the day in that fated airline, he was stabbed seriously. He somehow managed to get control. I think, I understand, he was the person who opened the door of the pilot's cabin to let other people in to help. But, I mean, he saved the lives of all those people, incredibly quick thinking. So he can only be honorary because he's Indian, not British, but I just think he's a massive, massive hero.

And all the people in that plane and possibly some people on the ground and many people on the ground as well owe their lives to in. Yeah, thousands of people on the ground. Thousands and thousands of people on the ground could have been killed. Christine Hamilton, Neil Hamilton, thank you both so much, so great to see you. And of course, if you do want to vote for the worst Britain in the world this week, you can go to the YouTube tab straight after the show where Prince Harry is going here to here with Emily Thornbri Shebaranamakmood and Ed Davy.

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