Dan Wootton Outspoken - TOMMY ROBINSON FURY AS VIOLENT ISLAMIST TAKEOVER IN SADIQ KHAN'S LONDON THREATENS WOMEN

Episode Date: November 21, 2025

BREAKING TODAY: A violent Islamist takeover is underway in Sadiq Khan’s London but the mainstream media look away as the attacks become more commonplace and way of life is crushed. Tommy Robinson h...as now accused Islamists of not just grooming British kids for sex, but to join their cult. Yet still the elite class pretend everything is just fine and dandy as London’s failed Islamist Mayor Sadiq Khan flies around the world on private jets. Dan reveals what the destruction of our biggest cities means for the future of the UK in his Digest. Then analysis from Paul Thorpe, host of the real people’s channel on YouTube, who this week has said Brits are wholly unprepared for what’s coming. PLUS: Rupert Lowe hits out at two tier policing after Dr Shola’s death threat against the Restore Britain leader with two million views is ignored. AND: Axed Talk TV star Mike Graham’s independence has caused a row on the right. We’ll analyse. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle’s Diana cosplay has sparked new outrage after the release of her Harper’s Bazaar disaster interview. We’ll team up with YouTube sensation According2Taz for all the royal latest. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 366. And did you see how our dear leader arrived to the G20 in South Africa a few hours ago? He's got all the grace and dignity of a hippopotamus. But you want to know what's so hilarious? Number 10 Downing Street, who believe that they work with the mainstream media as if it's North Korea has attempted to ban the MSM from showing this clip. So you know what we do in the independent media? Can we just see it at least one more time? Hello?
Starting point is 00:00:53 Paul Thorpe, I mean, seriously, how on earth can they be? ban that. Like, this shows you how nuts, how completely nuts downing street is, right? Dan, we need something to cheer us up, brother, right? I mean, this is fantastic. I mean, look, it's not the first time when it's slippery slumber has slipped up, is it? And you can't say that before you've had a beer, I'll tell you, but slippery slid up and not for the first time. It's hilarious, Dan. Gives us something to smile about at last. There's something metaphorical there, I agree, Paul. Indeed. Well, look, do stand by. because breaking today, a violent Islamist takeover
Starting point is 00:01:31 is underway in Sadiq Khan's London. But the mainstream media look away as the attacks become more commonplace and our way of life is crushed. Oh shit, big bully out here. Big bully outside. Well, I honestly think that if they're just going to do this, I think it's fine.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Listen, I'm not going to fall into two intimidation. This is a primary school. Away. It's a school with windows open. Away. Right now or I will call the police. Go away. Go away. Go away.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Okay. Hey! Come back here! Tommy Robinson has now accused Islamists of not just grooming British kids for sex, but to join their cult. Have the people leave every religion and to accept Islam. And if that requires fighting to achieve it, then it requires fighting to achieve. Because the greatest purpose for which jihad was legislated
Starting point is 00:02:38 is to make the word of Allah the highest and the word of those who disbelieve the lowest. Yet still the elite class, pretend everything is just fine and dandy as London's failed Islamist mayor flies around the world on private jets. You could walk from one end of Whitechapel to the other and not hear someone speak English. Is that protecting our culture? Yes or no, Sebastian. Do you believe in free markets? Yes. Well, then you'll be defending their right to open whatever business they want to serve the customers they have.
Starting point is 00:03:24 The erosion of British culture, has that happened in Whitechapel, yes or not? No, I don't think it has. Ridiculous comment. Because that culture has evolved. Because we're not Normans or Saxons anymore. We're modern Britain. They're not speaking English, Sebastian. You took an entourage of 11 staff to South Africa alone.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Can you explain, by the way, this was on business class, so good for you. I hope they took care of you on the flight. Can you explain why such a large team was essential, or does streamlining only ever apply to everyone else's footprint but yours? It's the road of the mayor of London to champion the capital as an exceptional place to live, work, study and invest in. So what the destruction of our biggest cities means for the future of the UK in my digest next. Then, analysis from we just saw him, Paul Thorpe, host of the real people's channel on YouTube, who this week has said Brits are wholly unprepared for what's to come. Also coming up on the show today, Rory Stewart comes for Tommy Robinson, and the new episode of The Rest is politics.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Knight the Kingdom activist isn't taking the new slur lying down. We'll show you. Rupert Lowe hits out at two-tier policing after Dr. Scholar's death threat against the Restore Britain leader with 2 million views is ignored by cops. And Axe Talk TV star Mike Graham's independence has caused a row on the right. We'll analyze. Then in the uncanceled after show, which is over on Substack, Megan Markle's Diana cosplay has sparked new outrage after the release of her Harper's Bazaar disaster. interview. We'll team up with YouTube sensation according to Taz for all the Royal latest. And of course, because it is a Friday, we will also be unveiling the worst
Starting point is 00:05:00 Britain in the world this week before the end of the show. That's where we put your union jackasses head to head. You can vote right now in the posts tab on YouTube. But here are the contenders. Narenda Kaur from Monday. Ed Davy from Tuesday. Shabana MacMood from Wednesday. And Chris Packham from Thursday. Who's it going to be? be, we will reveal the worst Britain in the world at the end of the show and bring your comments too. So do make sure you stick with us today. But now, let's go. The speed and the violence of the takeover of London under Islamistee Khan, spreading to the UK's other biggest cities, is terrifying. But perhaps what's most concerning is the failure of the regime media and elite class to
Starting point is 00:05:51 work out what's going on and why we must fight back, while also acknowledging they've spent the past decade at least getting it totally wrong on campaigners like Tommy Robinson. Our culture is being destroyed. Our women are no longer safe. And it will soon be a mirage that we are a Christian country. I'm not shy of the truth. We don't say that Islam is here to live, you know, to coexist with lots of different religions and all of us can just hold hands and be friends. This religion was sent to dominate the world. It was sent to be superior, to extinguish the light of every other religion and to be superior to it. We're not shy to say it,
Starting point is 00:06:39 and we don't find that to be something that we should be shy to say, that this religion has been sent to dominate, to wipe out, to take out every other religion, to eclipse it, to be superior to it, to have the people leave every religion and to accept Islam. And if that requires fighting to achieve it, then it requires fighting to achieve. Because the greatest purpose for which jihad was legislated is to make the word of Allah the highest and the word of those who disbelieve the lowest. Tommy Robinson responded as a new report being spoken about on GB News tonight, pointing out that rape gangs are driven by Islam. It's quite frustrating that this is exactly what I've been trying to tell the world for decades. In a sorry state of affairs, as I was censored from every
Starting point is 00:07:25 single British TV, radio and worldwide social media platforms, the only place I could exercise my freedom of speech was Russia in an attempt to educate on Islamic rape jihad. And I mean, this is now something we're having to deal with. It's not the future, it is now. Look, for example, at this scene outside a London school. From the primary school, I beg your pardon. This is a primary school. Away, it's a school with windows open. Away, right now, or I will call the police.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Go away. Go away. Okay? Here, look. Here, look. Here, look. And of course, a lot of this is all part of the takeover, the infiltration, as Tommy pointed out. When they're not grooming British kids for sex,
Starting point is 00:08:19 They're grooming them to join their cult. Here is the evidence. Muhammad? He's the last one fine. Allah. Allah? Alon. Muhammad.
Starting point is 00:08:37 He's the last one painter? It's the last one now. Allah. Allah. Hello. I testify. God. Allah.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Jesus, Son of God. God. Copies of the Quran? Yes, have a copy. You're Christian? Do you believe in Jesus? You believe in Jesus?
Starting point is 00:09:00 We also believe in Jesus. Do you know that? Muslims, it talks about Jesus. Yeah, look, if you look at the 19th chapter of the Quran, it's actually called Mary. Here, say look, Mary. Surah, that means chapter, Mary. Who do you believe? So we believe in the one true God, the God of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:09:18 The God of Jesus. We believe that Jesus was a prophet of God. Jesus is the son of God, like the physical son of God or someone who's just righteous? We believe that he's a prophet. Like Moses, like Abraham, like Noah. They all had the same message. Worship God alone. None of them said worship Jesus. Right? Even when Jesus, he was praying, who was he praying to? God. Right? So this is what Islam teaches. Take a copy. Take a copy. Have a read. Take care. Hamdallah. As you can see, young guys, Hamdallah. You didn't know much about Islam, but just engaging with them.
Starting point is 00:10:03 They took a copy of the Quran. May Allah, you know, may guide them by reading it, inshallah. And already our culture is changing in Khan's Islamist London. On the tube, women now stand as the men sit. Prompting Kiara Dis to rage, call me crazy, but once upon a time, British men would offer their seat to a woman on public transport. The imported generation of men do not share those same values. This seam epitomizes that statement. Watch. But of course, even more concerning is the actual violent attacks on our women. Look at this, Bridgeton Star, Genevieve Chenoit, was attacked overnight in central London again,
Starting point is 00:11:06 just months after this incident where her phone was stolen. And she is completely traumatised by what went down. Watch. It's literally five minutes before my audition. I was walking around the corner in Oxford Circus and this guy just looks at me and like targets me and I'm like against the wall and I was literally like right about to arrive for my audition. So I like had to come in and I'm trying to like gather myself.
Starting point is 00:11:47 but I'm so shaken because obviously I had that phone attack happen to me and it's like so nerve-wracking for me being out in central London now and I just got my confidence up and was like looking and moving back. He just like, he literally like I couldn't walk anyone. He was just looking at me and he just fucking hit me. And that follows an almost identical violent attack on my friend, the TV presenter, Kirsty Galaher, in London just last month. And I noticed this guy, um, all in black, um, covered up, actually, uh, just walking at me.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Um, and I'm always vigilant. And he was just walking towards me. And, and I thought, this is, this is not right. So I moved out of the way. And then he brushed past me. He turned around and he kicked me like he was kicking a football. He kicked me in the middle of a street. He kicked me in the middle of a street at about 7 o'clock last night in front of people. And I mean, this is our life now, a life where it is now impossible to walk the streets of Carnes, London, without being mugged. I mean, it's happened to me twice, with another attempt by two Islamists on the back of a motorbike. Some locals now have just had enough without fighting back.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Oh shit, big bully outside. Oh shit, big bully outside. Oh shit. But of course. But of course, when the late, great West London bin man, Wayne Broadhurst, attempt to to stop a violent incident involving an Afghan illegal who arrived here on the back of a lorry, that Kretton stabbed him to death. I think what's so disturbing is the suicidal empathy of young hard lefters who are completely unaware that it is their future under threat because of Islam. So I want to show you these idiots at the LSE in London yesterday, who were actually celebrating the political assassination of Charlie Kirk as Turning Point UK
Starting point is 00:14:37 attempted to host a peaceful open discussion. Nazi sandbox, in a box, in a box, Nazis come, Nazis come, Nazi scoff, Nazi scum, Nazi scoff, Nazis come, off the street, Nazis scum, Nazi scum, Nazi scum, As a team. Nottings come. Bean, bad, Bean, boy,
Starting point is 00:15:17 bean boy, bean boy, bean boy, being boy, back up being. As turning point activist, the very brave young Bob wrote, physically assaulted
Starting point is 00:15:26 at the turning point stand on the LSE campus. We were simply trying to debate. Yet several masked men kept approaching throughout doing everything they could to shut down
Starting point is 00:15:36 a fair discussion. This is the state of tolerance at our universities. And to be honest, I think what's actually just most important is that you see these horrific scenes. Watch. I think we should stay here just to see what happens. Well, this is fun. Well, this is fun. I honestly think that if they're just going to do this, I think it's fine.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Listen, I'm not going to fall into intimidation. If it is literally just a couple of ballied students, I'm not going to do anything physically, however I can handle. You're legitimizing this understanding that they can just do this. I think you're stepping on my property, so I would ask that you don't do that. But look, the law IQ chimps, the ones that are unfortunately, you know... Please do not call people that. Well, don't protest the speaking event.
Starting point is 00:17:08 So, for the intimidating woman with a ballyon, do you want to speak on why? Yes. The one-year-taxious off of campus. Be a traditional man and stop being afraid of women. Pardon? This is good fun. Section 14 of the Public Order Act, so not dispersing during a protest and it was given a no further action. How am I doctor?
Starting point is 00:17:35 What women have I harassed? Find me the woman. What woman have I harassed? Pardon? That is my real name. That is just a stage name I used to go by. But my real name is very publicly open to the public. I've said it.
Starting point is 00:17:51 On many occasions, my name is Gregory Thomas Mackay Moffat. But I go by Young Bob. This is what we're trying to do. So look. Yeah, and get NFA again. So, look, I'm not trying to be petty here. It seems like you are. I'm just trying to engage in a genuine discussion.
Starting point is 00:18:04 We do not engage with Nazis. We do not engage with Nazis. We do not engage with Nazis. Why? Why? We do not engage with fascists. Yeah, I'll try to. However, I think it's fair to try and have discussion in these people.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Because I have respect to my elders, I like you people. Doesn't that just sum it up? Just sums it up. I mean, I've got a lot of respect for young Bob. I think he's the British-era parent to Charlie Kirk. But I think it's just shocking that in this context, the elite class still tried to justify the absolute dire state of Kahn's London. Watch this from Gb News.
Starting point is 00:18:45 What's the issue with Whitechapel? A lot of people would say not a lot of white people. Is that what you're going for? No, it's not about skin color. If you come out, I'll tell you what, you come out of a Whitechapel station. My family's from the East End. You could be anywhere in South Asia, okay? So what is it about?
Starting point is 00:19:01 It's not skin color, what is it? No, it's about language. And it's about businesses that are not. essentially British and... So if I was... If I could move... Say I moved to Whitechapel, I find it hard to find a pub now.
Starting point is 00:19:17 They used to be on every corner. So not just because of the economy, but because the culture and the demographics have changed. Do you believe in free markets, I think? You could walk from one end of Whitechapel to the other and not hear someone speak English. Is that protecting our culture? Yes or no, Sebastian? Do you believe in free markets?
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yes. Well then... That isn't... Well, then you'll be defending their right to open whatever business they want to serve the customers they have. The erosion of British culture. Has that happened in Whitechapel, yes or no? No, I don't think it has. Ridiculous comment.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Because that culture has evolved. Because we're not Normans or Saxons anymore. We're modern Britain. They're not speaking English, Sebastian. I don't speak English in my household. Am I less British as a result? No, but you're speaking English now. Yes, and they all speak English as well.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I mean, the fact that that left just thinks that some type of gotcha moment. As for Kham himself, he is that ultimate champagne socialist, right? Ignoring destruction at home to swan around the world on private jets, be whined and dined on super yachts. As Chris Rose pointed out, Sadiq Khan went on an 83,000 pound taxpayer-funded Jolly to Africa with an entourage of 11 staff. He also flew business class. Mr. Eco racked up around 258 tons of carbon emissions over the four-day trip, more than 20,000. times the average accrued by a UK family over an entire year. And look at his arrogance when he was challenged on this. For the last line years, all you've done is moan and wine and say that
Starting point is 00:20:52 it's always someone else's fault for the things that you have to do. But possibly one of the budget savings you could have made was the cost of your Africa trip, which cost the taxpayer £83,000. You took an entourage of 11 staff to South Africa alone. Can you explain, by the way, this was on business class, so good for you. I hope they took care of you on the flight. Can you explain why such a large team was essential, or does streamlining only ever apply to everyone else's footprint but yours? It's the road of the Mayor of London to champion the capital as an exceptional place to live, work, study and invest in. The purpose of the visit was to promote London, support. So, look, I would say, Mr. Mayor, why did you have to go business class? Why did taxpayers have to fund your lavish trips in that way? Can't you fly with the rest of us normally? Chair, a number of the legs of that trip were economy class.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Did you fly business class, yes or no? One of the legs was business class, I think. I'm trying to find out there. I'm trying to get the table. I'm more than how much said, so let me find it now. One second. Well, look, I'll leave it there, Mr. Mayor. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:21:59 A truly pathetic man. I mean, some are now challenging what's going on in the elite class. I do want to give them credit for that. So shout out to the Tory MP Nick Timothy, who is now campaigning against what he knows is an Islamist takeover. Islamist leaders or Islamist preachers or street organizers or whatever. they obviously make threats about the future of this country, about foreign policy, often about Jewish people, often about other minorities as well, like, you know, Hindus or gay people or whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And we talk about it often in terms of the threat they pose to us, you know, collectively as a country. But one of the other things that's happened is that the mainstream in politics and the media and the public services have allowed these people to dominate public discourse about what it is to be a Muslim in this country. So they are actually giving the wrong impression of a lot of opinion in the Muslim population here. but they're also, we're allowing them to say within that population that they're the ones with the power and actually don't speak up if you just want to get on with your life and raise your family and get a good job and, you know, do well for yourself because they're the ones who are in charge
Starting point is 00:23:46 and they're the ones who the authorities listen to. Two others who get it are Will Kingston, the Australian commentator, host of the Aussie Spectator podcast and the former Australian Prime Minister, Tony Abbott. This is an important conversation, watch. The demographics of our more recent immigration intake have seen a large increase in people coming from Islamic countries. Many people in this country are uncomfortable with that. How do you feel about that demographic shift and do you think that it undermines that form of multiculturalism that you talk about in the book as being largely successful in the post-war era.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Well, you raise, I think, a very, a very important question. How compatible is Islam with the modern Western liberal democracy? And I think the truthful answer is not very. I don't think that means we stop taking immigrants who happen to be Muslim. What I think it means is that we should be very keen to ensure that all of our migrants are only too well aware of our expectation that they will be joining Team Australia. And also our expectation that for all the the diversity of modern Australia. We have a core Anglo-Celtic culture, and we have a fundamental Judeo-Christian ethos. But there should be so many more, given the urgent threat we are facing, but in spite they spend most of their time attacking Tommy Robinson, whose life, by the way,
Starting point is 00:25:38 is in constant danger. So look at this. Again, virtually ignored by the mainstream media. This is the Birmingham wrapper Twister cheese, otherwise known as Omar Ibrzac. He was recently jailed for making threats against Tommy Robinson, but has now been jailed for attacking a petrol station with a flamethrower who told, and he told a shopkeeper, I'm a terrorist, I will kill you. Now, after being arrested, he admitted what he had done saying, Allah told me to do that. So this man has made direct threats against Tommy Robinson. Watch him here. My heads about explode. So what did I do? My mom and dad was in Hajj this time.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Guess what? I swear to God, something just... I just thought, so and I hold back like that, yeah? I heard the deep inner voice in me, with a manly voice said, Oudu. So in my heart I said, Bylla he ministered on the regime, Bismillah Rahman Rahmahim.
Starting point is 00:26:42 That translates in English, Oh Allah, I see grievous from the devil. When I said that, light come from the sky. Bro, made me blind. My eyes are hurting. I try to cover my eyes with my arms. My eyes are still hurting.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Yeah. When I light disappeared, a red wolf on fire, footh, dropped on the floor, yeah? With black eyes, look at him like that. And then it's, with a noise. Like one second from here to death. Just gone. Like magic.
Starting point is 00:27:09 It really is time to start protecting and stop attacking Tommy Robinson, who is doing all he can to halt what is now a chilling Islamist takeover of the disunited kingdom. Now, Paul Thorpe is here. Paul, so great to have you on Outspoken today. I mean, it is astonishing, isn't it? When you look at the Islamist threat,
Starting point is 00:27:38 so clearly a threat targeted at Tommy Robinson, yet just this week, you still see the people who actually should be protecting patriots, for example, the Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood, actively attacking Tommy in Parliament, thereby I would argue encouraging that type of violence against him. Yeah, exactly, Dan. Thank you, as always, by the way.
Starting point is 00:28:02 It's a pleasure to be back. As always, Dan, you know, we have to put up with the same old pathetic rhetoric from the same old pathetic culprits. I'm afraid it's time that everyone opened their eyes and saw what's clearly going on right in front of our very eyes, week in, week out, by the usual suspects.
Starting point is 00:28:21 As time goes by, we are seeing people slowly but surely waking up, but the gaslighting of the nation continues and continues at a pace. It really does. But the thing is, Paul, don't you think there are sometimes these moments? And I sort of describe them as crossover moments where actually people start realizing this isn't a political thing. And I think there was one of them with this Bridgeton actress, right? Genevieve Chenois, and Tommy has actually posted on that in the past few hours, writing
Starting point is 00:28:53 Bridget and actress Genevieve Twenwire breaks down as she is attacked in London for a second time. No description of the attackers, of course, we all know she wasn't attacked by an Englishman. And the thing is, Paul, she's an actress. You know, she's probably on the woke side of things. But at the end of the day, no one is safe. And this is the real world impact. And I think it's becoming harder for the mainstream media and people like James O'Brien and Fraser Nelson to say, oh, this is just far right thugs like us, right, Paul, like you and me, who are just making this up for political reasons. I mean, what are you going to say this about Genevieve Twainois? Yeah. I mean, look, Dan, I mean, obviously I've got sympathy for the young
Starting point is 00:29:37 lady, you know, it's a horrible, horrible thing that's taken place. But I'm afraid that some of these people, Dan, they just won't open their eyes until they are victims. And even then, you know, we saw our mutual friend, Liam Tufts interviewing a guy down in Crowbro, recently, saying, you know, what if this was your daughter? And he's like, well, if it is, it is. For me, it's a mental issue, almost. It's like a virus that's spread through certain parts of a nation.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Watching those individuals with young Bob, totally and utterly incapable of even holding the most basic, conversation. It's an illness. It really is. I think young Bob is doing incredible work though, right? I mean, super impressed by him. Brave guy. Absolutely. I mean, he's a very brave young man. I think what you said is correct. He's the heir apparent. And, you know, I worry about him because he's a young man. He's, you know, physically not the biggest guy in the world. And I hope everyone looks after him and keeps their eye on him at these events. But, you know, the way the police are, Dan,
Starting point is 00:30:49 I was watching a video earlier in the week, in the way in which police dealt with Antifa down in Bristol, messing around, you know, patricade, patricate, patacate with these masked thugs. By the way, there was a section in place, I believe, that banned face coverings. The police just ignored that, let them get away with it, in stark contrast to the way in which they treat patriots, at our events where the riot helmets are on,
Starting point is 00:31:17 the batons are out, and the riot shields, when there's not even any trouble, but they treat these people with kid gloves and they wonder why they continue to do it and to get away with it. The thing is that the elite class, the mainstream media, the liberal elite, regardless of what's going on,
Starting point is 00:31:37 and regardless of the increasing violence and the Islamist takeover that we see with our own eyes, still continue to want to paint Tommy Robinson as a bogey man. Now, of course, independent shows like this one, like the show hosted by today's guest Paul Thorpe on YouTube, are starting to change, but they're not going down without a fight. And I want to show you a very telling video,
Starting point is 00:32:04 which was broadcast this week by the rest as politics, those Cretton's Alistair Campbell, and Rory Stewart, directly not just targeting Tommy Robinson himself, but coming for people, I would argue, like me, who have been mainstream media figures, but who now realizes that the mainstream media is beyond hope, coming for people like us for telling the truth about the Unite the Kingdom Organiser. I'll get reaction from Paul in just one moment
Starting point is 00:32:34 and actually show you what Tommy Robinson had to say. But first, watch their discussion. Washing now happening of Tommy Robinson. A lot of people saying you can't call him racist, you can't call him fascist, because he's not Hitler. Hitler wasn't Hitler until he became Hitler. Absolutely. When I challenged Tommy Robinson on Twitter, he said, Rory Stewart is weak, spiritually, weak emotionally, weak intellectually, weak. Again, when I challenged him back, his supporters come in and they say, you never answer any questions.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Here are two questions to answer. and number one, are the too many Muslims in the UK? Number two, if there are, how many should they be? So I answer back one, no, two, C1. And then unleashed on me is extraordinary abuse. But if you think about what would happen if you replace that word Muslim with are the too many Jewish people in the UK,
Starting point is 00:33:25 other too many black people in the UK, then you see where the problem is. And people are just not waking up. I'm getting more and more aggravated about this. And I mean, the race of politics loves this. that that's sort of purposely trying to stoke Tommy Robinson's supporters. Indeed, when they posted that clip on X, they did it with the caption Q, Tommy Robinson's fans flocking to the replies.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Tommy did go for it. He hit back writing he's talking to a man, this is Alistair Campbell, of course, who is responsible for the death of millions of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan about my supporters offending him about Muslims. irony is lost on these vile people. And I thought that was a very good point, Paul Thorpe. But what do you make of the fact that for someone like Rory Stewart, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:14 who hilariously describes himself as a conservative? I mean, he's clearly not. But Tommy Robinson, even now, remains the figure who they believe they need to bring down. Well, they feared Tommy quite clearly, Dan, because Tommy tells the truth. He's been sending the truth for, you know, well over a decade now, and he continues to tell the truth,
Starting point is 00:34:41 whether it's unpleasant for some of these people's ears or not. It doesn't really matter. The truth is the truth. It doesn't even matter if you like Tommy or not. It's still the truth. And people like this for me, they're just, I mean, the only word I can think of really is they're cowards.
Starting point is 00:34:56 They refuse to face the truth. They refuse to see it. They won't champion the truth. and I just wonder where these people actually live, what communities do they live in, what experiences of real life every day, living in London, living in places like Loon, Blackburn, Bradford,
Starting point is 00:35:11 Lester, Berman and etc. What experience have they really had of the life that Tommy Robinson has had as an example? But Dan, they're cowards. It's simple as that. They would never debate Tommy ever. You'll never, ever, ever get these people to debate Tommy live on a show like yours,
Starting point is 00:35:29 which would be the ideal. platform, by the way. They'll never do it quite simply because they haven't got the argument and they haven't got the backbone. 100%. And that's the irony, isn't it? Even though they would claim to be independent media, in fact, they still operate on this whole de-platform basis, which is where the mainstream media has been for a long time. And, you know, in recent memory, Paul, it wasn't like that. I mean, sure, he might have had a pretty rough ride, but Tommy Robinson in his his early EDL days was allowed to appear on the British Bashing Corporation on Sly News. So it just shows you how over the past decade, the mainstream media has decided, well,
Starting point is 00:36:13 we can't beat these people. So we're going to silence these people. Dan, 100%. And the bottom line is the more truthful Tommy's words are being unveiled, the more relevant his message becomes the more they need to ban him they just cannot have tommy's voice on the mainstream media for fear of it reaching people who unfortunately are still away from social media still away from shows like yours and mine etc and many other great patriot shows on on social media they cannot afford to have a man like tommy promising that tells the truth on mainstream TV
Starting point is 00:36:55 again i call them out now i call them out here live on your show these people are They are. They are. And the other fascinating sort of glimpse into that is the Liberal Democrat Party, right? And specifically Ed Davy, who is waging war against G.B. News. Now, I obviously find this so hilarious, Paul, because as you know, and as we've discussed many times, like, and I was the launch presenter at GB News, but to me, GB News is absolutely now an establishment channel, right? Like, it has moved so far towards the centre. Look at the GB News coverage of the United Kingdom Rally, for example. So, like, I find it hilarious that actually GB News remains such a target to them.
Starting point is 00:37:40 But of course, it's because of Farage, right? And it's because they want to shut Farage down. And so Ed Davy has made yet another video. I'll get you to react, but let's just watch this first. with the BBC and you know what he's got every right to be angry with the BBC Donald Trump is gunning for the BBC and his mate Nigel Farage couldn't be happier the BBC under our plans would be slimmed down to something very relatively small but why is Farage so keen to see the end of Britain's cherished public broadcaster
Starting point is 00:38:20 especially when the BBC puts him on TV so often and gives him such an easy ride. This might have something to do with it. Nigel Farage has been paid over £330,000 by GB News in the last year alone. Farage is deep in the pockets of a company that aims to replace the BBC and put end to independent, impartial news altogether. Well, I did notice that Donald Trump's press secretary, Catherine Leavitt, suggested British viewers watch G.B. News, not the BBC. No wonder Nigel Farage is egging Trump on to destroy the BBC, to serve his own interests and line his own pockets. We can't let him.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Be no one thing, folks, whether you're watching home or in the car listening to this, it is very much the advantage of GB News. Trump's America. Don't let it become Farage's Britain. I mean, I just laugh at that, Paul. I find the whole thing hilarious. But I guess what's most interesting to me, though, is the panic, the absolute panic from the elite class because they are losing.
Starting point is 00:39:35 They are losing because they know. Look at us on YouTube, right? And this will be the next thing. You know, they'll be trying to shut down Paul Thorpe on YouTube. They'll be trying to shut down outspoken on YouTube because if you compare our numbers on YouTube to the numbers that the legacy media receive, by the way, including GB News and Talk TV,
Starting point is 00:39:53 it's just incomparable. And so Ed Davy wants to maintain this system. And I think they will start actually engaging sort of the deep state and apparatuses, I guess, of the deep state in order to do that. Dan, I think we've got to be a little bit fair to Ed Davey. I mean, come on. is coming the pantomime season he's due any moment and doesn't he reminds you of um darling on blackadder
Starting point is 00:40:22 i mean he's got one eye half shut when he speaks i mean he's darling from blackadder i mean look the guy's hilarious for i mean i actually quite like it davy because he just makes me laugh not politically but i just think he's such a clown um but no seriously you're absolutely right then and look they're scared they're scared the bottom line is they are scared uh and the reason they're scared is because they know that the people are coming for them all. When the next general election comes around, all of these people are going to suddenly have to go out and find themselves a job somewhere
Starting point is 00:40:55 and someone that will take them on because their days as politicians are rapidly coming to an end. And Ed Davey is very much among those people. Oh, yes, he is. And it is over. It is over for you, Ed. Whether you like it or not, you just don't know it yet. Breaking right now, Rupert Lowe has hit back at that race beta-in-chief. The anti-white racist herself, Dr Scholar, after he revealed that the police were going to take no action against her,
Starting point is 00:41:33 despite quite clearly inciting violence against the Restore Britain leader, something he believes proves that there is now. to tear Britain, given the action taken against Lucy Connolly. So let me rewind back to where the story started. You might remember that Rupert Lowe had advocated for restoring the death penalty, actually a popular position, right, in the United Kingdom, but one that seems to apparently make you an extremist in the mainstream media world. Dr. Scholar responded, writing, then execute white criminals by death penalty first. She made this about race.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Rupert Lowe had not said a thing. He wanted the death penalty restored for the most heinous, most horrific and most monstrous crimes. But he hadn't made an issue of race. She then went on there are more heinous, horrific and monstrous white criminals than there are foreign criminals. I'm against the death penalty, but for you, Rupert Lowe, I'll glad. badly make the exception. Rupert responded, Lucy Connolly was in prison for months over one foolish social media post. Let's see what happened here. And Dr. Scholar then taunted the authorities and the Metropolitan Police, writing, bring it on. Even the Met Police sees through your lie.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Not only did I not threaten you with death penalty, I don't care about you. You're so desperate to be a victim. I departed from my principal stance against death penalty for you. If you execute white British criminals first following your call to execute foreign criminals. Yes, foreign criminals, Dr. Scholar, he hadn't spoken about their color, okay? Because just to clarify, you can be a foreign criminal if you are white, for example, from Poland. This was not about race. It was about ethnicity. She went on, you're just another racist, anti-Muslimophobic, bigot who weaponises the public office to incite hate, carry on. Now, I got involved in this too. Writing Dr. Scholar now calling for the execution of Rupert Loeb at the MSN will continue to have
Starting point is 00:43:46 this hard leftist hate preacher on their cozy sofas thou as bad as each other. She responded, Hey, dumb-ar, Stan Woodton, it's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt. Your comprehension of the English language is sorely lacking, but I expect no less from intellectual dishonest frauds like you, making an exception for Rupert Loby Green to depart from my principled stance against the death penalty, as long as he executes white British criminals first. It's calling out his duplicity and double standards, you walking, talking, oppressor, masquerading as a victim. On a lighter note, do I finally make number one of your UK most hated list? I was offended when I came third last time. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:44:28 it's highly possible. It is highly possible you will go up that list, Doctor. Scholar because I actually think you are the type of hate preacher who needs to go. You hate Britain so much. You hate the white native population so much. This country would be so much better without you in it. Now Rupert Lowe took this issue of Dr. Scholar to Parliament, this Westminster Hall debate with Lucy Connolly, where he revealed that the police had washed their hands of her incitement to violence watch. Online influencer Shola Moss Shogba Mimu recently posted on X and I quote,
Starting point is 00:45:15 I am against the death penalty, but for you, Rupert Lowe, I'll gladly make the exception. This post currently has two million views. The Met Police have said no action will be taken. I don't want people in prison for social women. media posts. I also don't want such obvious two-tier policing. Shola walks free, yet Lucy Connolly was imprisoned for one foolish social media post soon deleted. Where is the fairness in that?
Starting point is 00:45:47 And Paul thought that is the question, is it not? Where is the fairness in that? Because we all know that Dr Shola was inciting violence against Rupert Lowe. We all know that she was engaging in very obvious anti-white racism by saying that white criminals should be executed before non-white criminals, something that Rupert Lowe had never said. Now, we can laugh that off, right? I happily laugh that off. You know I don't want anyone arrested for speech, but it is the absolutely revolting double standards where, and I will say it, white Britons are still being arrested all the time, yet the Metropolitan Police ignore someone like Dr Scholar. Well, Dr. Scholar bringing race unnecessarily into a debate, big surprise, eh?
Starting point is 00:46:41 I know, maybe the least surprising moment of the week. Yeah, exactly. I mean, look, Dan, at the end of the day, the only thing I will give is, yeah, sure, I'd like to see people like Ian Huntley, subject to the death penalty, it wouldn't bother me one bit. But it's ridiculous. Why do these people...
Starting point is 00:46:57 Dan, these are people... people are dangerous. This is never, ever, ever, for any of us, within this movement, within this base, been about race. No? Let's put that to bed once and for all. We do not care. And Dan, I'm pretty sure I speak to speak for you when I say this. We love people of all colours. Absolutely. It's about culture. I'm colourblind. Exactly, Dan. But you know, they call me racist for that. Dan, the word racist now is becoming a compliment almost. because if someone calls you a racist, you know you've won the argument. What I want to see is people come onto your show, onto mine, and prove us wrong.
Starting point is 00:47:38 That I can respect. If someone can prove me wrong, then I've learnt something. I always say that. I enjoy being proven wrong because then I've learned something. But unfortunately, these people teach us nothing other than intolerance. And is it incitement? Well, I wouldn't want to see a personally go to jail or a comment like that. I personally wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I totally agree. She is a race-bates her. She is a troublemaker. And it is people like this that are causing divide between black and white people who should be brothers and sisters and enjoy our lives together. We make our way in life together.
Starting point is 00:48:15 We become all proud of being British under one flag sharing the same pint on a Friday night and the same football match on a Saturday afternoon. People like Dr. Shoda do not want that because there is no money in union. Only division. Oh, yes. I think that's a really important point to make, by the way, Paul.
Starting point is 00:48:35 She is on a massive grift. Narenda Corr is on a massive grift, you know, because Narenda used to say things about Islam, which, you know, even we wouldn't say. But she doesn't anymore because there is a massive grift going on. I refuse to mention a name. She's not worthy of a mention. to me personally, Dan, I've never mentioned her, and I never will, because she is just a grifter,
Starting point is 00:49:04 a race-baiting grifter, a religious grifter. And frankly, look, if that's how she owns her money, if that's her stick, that's her stick, right? But for me, she's not for me. Rupert Lowe also attacked Reform UK at this debate, Paul. And I do think it's something that is forgotten quite often, because remember this was a debate all about free speech. And you will remember that Reform UK, which claims to be for free speech, did report Rupert Lowe to the police for hurty words in an apparent argument with Zia Yusuf. I do wonder if we've forgotten that all too quickly, Paul, watch. A personal experience, a late-night police raid initiated by false allegations from former Reform Party colleagues relating solely to words I had allegedly spoken. the party of free speech indeed the reform leadership's bitter attempt to see me in prison failed
Starting point is 00:50:04 but too many others do not escape the consequences of such vile misuse of the system and rupert i sorry rupert that's rupert uh paul i think rupert is making a very fair point here actually and when people come for me which they often do and say dan well you know reform u k is the only chance to save the United Kingdom. You know, you're quite tough on them. I say, look, I voted for Reform UK at the last election. I was the first person to predict I think Nigel Farage will be Prime Minister by 2029. It's possible, Paul, that if there was an election tomorrow, and I thought that there was the most chance of Reform UK seeing this hard leftist Islamist block go, that I would vote for them again. However, that moment for me, when we're
Starting point is 00:50:55 Rupert Lowe was reported to the police for hurty words was a big one. And there's been absolutely no reckoning within Reform UK about what happened. And I can't just forget it and move on. Look, Dan, I think you give everyone a very fair crack at a whip. I mean, look, for me, I think the vast majority of the people in the United Kingdom right now are sick and tired of hypocrisy politics. And for me, I'm afraid that that is where, in many cases, Reform and Nigel Farage has led us. I am now, as I think you know, a member of Vance UK.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I'm also on the college. Yes, you are with Ben Habib, which I think is great, by the way. I think it's absolutely brilliant. Ben, for me, is the man that gives the people what they need. I think Nigel and his team missed the biggest trick in the book by basically removing or making Ben and one or two other people unwelcome within the party together united they could have stormed this country politically like never before unfortunately there's a split but for me it's a bounce and ben 100% I'm afraid
Starting point is 00:52:06 Nigel has lost my confidence for many many reasons that we won't go into right now but look as you say it feels a general election tomorrow the way we would have to vote potentially tactically in some areas we'd have to wait and see but you're right and I go And who knows what's going to happen? And, you know, obviously, I hope that it's, so you just make your point, you just make your point. Sorry, Paul, I interrupted. No, sorry, Dan, I was just going to repeat.
Starting point is 00:52:31 You know, it's the hypocrisy politics. I think the vast majority of people are sick and tied off. And I want to see candidates and politicians that tell the truth, tell us it is, and give the people something not only to hope for, something to believe in Dan, politicians that we can actually believe because we've given these people
Starting point is 00:52:55 so many mandates in the past and they've let us down. The problem for me, one of the problems is reform is they're taking people into the party who have failed in the past. This is like employing a football manager who's just seen his last team relegated. It's not going to work.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Yeah, there's that whole debate about where the Tories should come in. Also, it would be remiss of me not to mention this major piece of news today. in regards to Reform UK, Nathan Gill, who was the party's former leader in Wales, jailed for taking bribes for pro-Russia speeches. Police say he received at least £40,000. He's gone to jail. I mean, this is an extraordinary sentence to me, Paul, 10 and a half years.
Starting point is 00:53:39 I mean, I'm not a supporter of that. I think that is absolutely nuts. And I definitely do believe this is the judicial system, are weaponising themselves against Reform UK in the same way we have seen the judicial system weaponising themselves against Tommy Robinson for years. However, that said, let's just take it as read that this guy is indeed guilty.
Starting point is 00:54:04 It very much feels ironic to me that, you know, Rupert Lowe was such an issue. Do you know what I mean? I do, Dan. I do, I do. I do indeed. I mean, it's a very, obviously, it's a very serious charge. We'll have to see how it comes out in the wash, and I'm sure there will be a lot more to come out about this.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Indeed, there will. And of course, one thing that I can guarantee is the mainstream media will go totally bananas for this story, because it fits into their agenda. And I would just argue that reform UK haven't made it easy for themselves, because what they needed was a united right. And unfortunately, the way that they treated Ben Habib and Rupert Lowe means that like in the US, and we're seeing that divide play out at the moment, the UK right is divided too. Now, you can try and pretend that isn't happening. I would argue that's intellectually dishonest. For me, I just want to tell you what I think. But I also stress out, you know, it's not me who's cancelled Reform UK being on the show. They have chosen to do that themselves.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Developing today a growing row on the right over Mike Graham, the axed talk TV presenter going independent. With a divide between loyal talk supporters and Tommy Robinson fans who say Mike Graham has not yet had a come to one of a moment about his previous criticism of the Unite the Kingdom activist. Now, Paul Thorpe is obviously a close ally of Tommy Robinson already operating in the independent media space. And when I sat down for this exclusive interview with Mike Graham, Paul wanted me to put a very direct question to Mike Graham. I did. And so I want to show you what happened and then we'll hear of Paul was satisfied.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Another great guy in this space, Paul Thorpe, who has. has his own independent broadcast. And, you know, he likes you, Mike. But he messaged me when I was saying, I'm going to be speaking to you, saying you're a very likable guy, but you lost a lot of respect when you threw Tommy Robinson under a bus. Given recent events, would you like to apologize to Tommy and accept that he's a decent guy and a patriot and not a far right racist up to you, brother?
Starting point is 00:56:34 Yeah. I mean, I think Tommy Robinson's probably going to be okay without my endorsement, to be honest. You know, he's got a very big following, much bigger than Mark. he and I have been going out each other for as long as I can remember you know he's called me a lot of names too but you know we're all big boys aren't we I mean I don't think I need to apologise
Starting point is 00:56:51 to him I'd quite happily Would you debate him? Maybe, maybe I'd like to host that Okay but I don't see Part of me, I get this a lot and people Why don't you just debate him? He said it as well Why don't you debate me? I'd debate about what exactly
Starting point is 00:57:05 You know because we're not actually That far apart on some of the things that we think I think he's a much more nasty kind of figure, if you like, in the way that he goes about doing things. So is it more the tone of Tommy rather than what he has to say that upsets you? I think so. Paul, I asked the question, were you happy with Mike Graham's response? I'll be honest with you, Dan. I was very disappointed.
Starting point is 00:57:34 And I'll tell you why. I mean, there's a few points here, isn't there? First of all, you know, Mike spoke about this. being his stick, you know, the way he reacts to people, et cetera. That doesn't excuse lies and libel, I'm afraid. You know, he's very clearly said a lot of very damaging things about Tommy in the past are simply not true. Whether you like Tommy or whether you don't, they are not true.
Starting point is 00:57:57 And because Mike is still a likable sort of character, he's like that chubby lad at school. You just can't help but laugh with and like. He refused to hold his hands up and apologise for saying, any of those things. Now look, at the end of the day, he now knows what it feels like to be unfairly demonised. Hence, I'm afraid, I still haven't got a lot of sympathy for him. And I just felt that this was the chance for him to man up a little bit, to own up. And instead of doubling down on Tommy, saying he can get by without my endorsement, well, look, Tommy never needed or ever
Starting point is 00:58:33 sought Mike's endorsement. All he wanted was the truth. And he also said, Don't, you know, why should I debate Tommy, saying, what is there for me to debate Tommy with? What should I debate him about? You know, well, come on, really, Mike? Come on, mate. You know, don't insult our intelligence. You're bigger than that. And for me, Dan, if Mike wants to restore his credibility in its entirety, the best way to do that
Starting point is 00:59:01 will be to get his ass back on your show with Tommy, which is, without ground, those in yours is now the biggest, the best show in this space. get the two of them together anyone watching this right now put it in the comments do you agree with me get Tommy and Mike Graham on this show Dan to be the host and they can sort out man to man and put the record straight
Starting point is 00:59:23 100% I'm desperate to host it I'm desperate to host it I think we need to do that much more in this space Paul and it's really interesting because there's been a huge response to the Mike Graham interview and it has been mixed and you know I'm really honest about this right so
Starting point is 00:59:39 some people have said to me absolutely brilliant you know we love dan it's great that you're supporting him and then i think well actually yes i am in lots of ways but i also asked him a lot of tough questions and i'll show you how i actually put what tommy robinson had said about him directly you know you don't see many people doing that i challenged him for example on the fact that he doesn't believe in the great replacement theory which i think is not a theory it is a fact so there was that side of the argument. Then there are the other people who say, well, no, Dan, you shouldn't have had Mike on at all. You know, I can't believe that that you're helping him. And again, I do struggle with that, Paul, because personally, I think what we, we don't live in a world of
Starting point is 01:00:26 total moral purity. We're in this independent space. We are only ever going to speak to people who we 100% agree with. And I think that's one of the huge issues with Reform UK, right? Like, made a choice with this show once I said what you did to Rupert Lowe was disgusting right so you've reported Rupert Lowe to the police and I don't trust Zia Yusuf
Starting point is 01:00:50 as far as I can throw him you know I think he is an Islamist who has never been honest about why he was able to enter this political realm so quickly but as soon as I said that Paul they decide well outspoken is not a place for us you know Dan is now
Starting point is 01:01:07 the enemy well again you're No, you're not my enemy, Reform UK. You are not my enemy. You can say that I'm your enemy, but that's nuts. You know, the enemy is Jeremy Corbyn, Zara Soltana, Slipri Stama, Shabana Mood, the tip whisperer Zach Polanski, need I go on. They are our enemies. So I want to try and be able to bring people together here and also accept that we're not always going to 100% agree, right, on everything. But we broadly, should be in the same place, which is supporting free speech, concerned about the Islamic threat, et cetera, et cetera. So it's been an interesting to me to see the reaction from a lot of
Starting point is 01:01:50 my contemporaries. And by the way, I respect people who are having to go at me. I love it. You know, the ones who are messaging me privately, I say, look, it's great. I want to have this discussion. But I think, you know, we can't be so morally puritanical. And I don't actually even think when it comes to Tommy, but you tell me he would want that, you know, I don't think Tommy would say, oh, well, Dan, you shouldn't speak to Mike Graham because Mike Graham's being rude to me. No, as you say, it's about the truth and it's about having these discussions and sort of say, Mike, what did you mean but by this? Yeah, very much so, Dan, and I agree entirely. I mean, well, let's put it to the test then. I'm sure that if Tommy and Mike Bryant was on your show
Starting point is 01:02:32 tomorrow. I'm sure that'll be one of the biggest audiences, live audiences of all time. And you could see Mike was sort of wavering, wasn't he? Well, you know, I'm not sure that Mike has the backbone for it, to be honest, but we'll see. I can't speak for Tommy. What I can
Starting point is 01:02:48 say is this, knowing him as I do, I think that Tommy would not want to take his voice away. Most definitely not. And I also believe that Tommy would be the bigger man in the respect that if he was proven wrong over time, he would apologise. I've seen him do it before and I'm sure we'll see
Starting point is 01:03:07 him do it again. As I said, look, I can only say what I've already said, Dan. I like Mike Graham as a presenter. He is an entertainer and that makes him good at what he does. Do I respect him as a man? I'm afraid at the moment, the answer to that is the jury is out. You know, we have to Mike's got a bit of making up to do as far as being, you know, playing a fair bat, as it were. And it's time he even owned up with Tommy and just said, look, you know what, Tommy, mate, I got it wrong. You know, you understand it was my job. I'm working for the mainstream media. It's part of what I have to do.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Forgive me, you know, I think Tommy would shake his hand. Yeah, I think he would too. But I think he would. He wants there to be a reckoning with people like Julia Hart. Hartley Bruin, Camilla Tominate, you know, but it's not that he's saying, I don't want to have anything to do with you ever. I would say, and remember I operated in very similar spaces, you know, for me, no one will ever find footage of me slagging Tommy Robinson off in the past. So I don't think your bosses ever force you to slag him off. What they do is they ban
Starting point is 01:04:21 discussion of him all together. And that's what I've been very honest about. So, the people who are choosing to go one step further, like that revolting Camilla Tomaday on the Daily Telegraph, saying that he's a white supremacist on woke ITVs this morning when Tommy was in jail and couldn't fight back. That is on her, you know, that is not on her bosses. But certainly when I was at GB News,
Starting point is 01:04:44 and there would be a lot of demand from the viewers for me to speak about Tommy and get Tommy on. And I understand it right. And I was obviously in private communication with Tommy, but the bosses simply wouldn't allow it. You know, they wouldn't allow Father Calvin to do it. They wouldn't allow Lawrence Fox to do it. Now, obviously, I hoped that I was going to be able to shift the Overton window at GB News.
Starting point is 01:05:03 And I think I did in a lot of ways, but not on Tommy. That was like a no-go zone. So it obviously took me being independent to be able to do what I wanted to do. And I've been honest about that. But I've also been honest about the fact that Tommy Robinson was one of the people who supported me most when I was canceled by GB News. And that's really interesting to me because it would have been so easy for him to to say, oh, Dan, now you're getting a piece of my medicine. And he never, ever did that.
Starting point is 01:05:30 You know, he was absolutely there for me right from the moment that I was canceled. And personally, I'll never forget that loyalty. By the way, if you do want to watch the full Mike Graham interview, of course, you can sign up to my substack www. www. outspoken.com. But I do just want to show you, Paul, because as I say, I did play, you know, and this is when people are criticizing me, I absolutely put all points of view.
Starting point is 01:05:55 to Mike, but I thought the most important thing is actually he got to hear Tommy himself criticize Mike. And I, you know, it was quite awkward because what Tommy was saying was very full on. But anyway, I just want to show you what went down and then I'll get your reaction. When we first kind of locked horns, he was, you know, perhaps a very different individual, but he was threatening to come to the office and, you know, find me and bring a lot of, you know, there was a time when he used to go around, you know, with his father. followers. Well, there were protests even quite recently outside the talk offices. Oh, were there? But that was in regards to something that Pierce Morgan and Peter Cardwell had said.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Oh, okay. There was a time when he used to kind of, you know, if he didn't like a particular journalist, he would go after them, you know, in a way which I always thought was a little bit beyond the pale, which was kind of why I saw him in that light. And I think perhaps he's maybe modified his behaviour since then, and he's become a slightly more what you might call respectable figure because he's realised that actually behaving like a thug isn't really the way to go.
Starting point is 01:07:04 But there was a time when he did. and so I don't think I need to apologise to him you know So you thought some of his behaviour towards you was thuggish Yeah And that's what you didn't like That was where it all started really You know
Starting point is 01:07:16 He responded To your Well whatever it was Whatever it was I mean he tweets about me quite To you've been taken off here What was interesting His first response
Starting point is 01:07:30 I guess got a little bit of backlash Because some people said Look you're You know you shouldn't celebrate someone taking his job, he then explained, this was all public, this was on X, and I played it on the show but I think it's only fair now that you're here
Starting point is 01:07:43 that you can actually respond because he made some specific I'm not going to say that allegations, but claims that you were not taking a sexual abuse case seriously enough. This is what he had to say. Watch this. Hold on. Mike,
Starting point is 01:08:00 what's going on? For years, you've condemned me as a racist. And you just lost your job. Who's that? Mike, you know some fat dude who does talk radio or talk TV. For years all he ever does is use his platform and every time he talks about me he condemns me as that far right racist. He's got drunk and he, he's got pissed up, posted loads of racist stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:23 His true feelings come out. You were masking, you were fucking... It's brilliant. He's got time to exercise now. Do you want to drop of us, Mike? No, mate, don't employ racists. Let me just give you some context for whilst. why I'm laughing. A few years ago there was a sexual assault at centre parks. I was on holiday
Starting point is 01:08:41 at settlement parks. That sexual assault was against a child, a child that's close to me. What Mike did at that time, so a sexual assault against a child close to me, Mike used his platform to belittle it, to mock it, and to say that it was fabricated and that the child was lying in order to promote my racist agenda. That's what Mike did. So of course, I'm I'm very angry with Mike, I think it's outrageous behaviour, I think it's immoral behaviour, I think he's a scumbag, that's what I think, yeah? So, if you see me laughing, I wouldn't usually laugh at someone losing their job, I want to use laugh at, I don't believe in cancelled culture, but Mike's an arson, yeah?
Starting point is 01:09:25 See, for me, Mike, this is such a shame, and I'll tell you, Mike, it's such a shame. Just before we comment on that, the incident I believe that he's talking about at Centre Park resulted in him being arrested for attacking someone. That's actually what happened. And that was the context for me to say, because he was basically saying the reason... So you don't feel that you were belittaline? Not at all, no.
Starting point is 01:09:46 The reason that he said that he assaulted this guy was because there was a sexual assault on a child, and that was his excuse for beating the guy up. That's what my recollection is. I guess what I think is such a shame is that I think you're both brilliant, people and you're both going to be incredibly important in what is going to be honestly a fight to save this country and can you understand that people sometimes think well why are you
Starting point is 01:10:17 turning your fire on Tommy Robinson I understand he's also turning his fire on you when look at who's running the show you know look at look at Zara soltana and Jeremy Corbyn's mom look at the tit whisperer Zach Polanski like like I mean when's that guy comfortable I know, I know. But do you know what I mean? Like, do you think now that you're in this independent space, there is potentially the possibility of at least putting some of that acrimony behind you? Listen, I'm all for peacemaking at times, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:50 but I also think we should all be grown up enough to understand that, you know, we don't all have to agree on everything. I mean, he's just called me an asshole and a scumbag two or three times, and apparently I was supposed to apologize to him. I don't need it. I wouldn't ask him to apologise for that, you know, let him carry on. It's part of his schick, that's fine. You know, I'll do me, he can do him.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Paul Thorpe, your reaction, I mean, I guess the thing that maybe Tommy Robinson supporters are most angry about was Mike's use of the word thug, although he did make the point that Tommy has changed. Yeah, I mean, look, Danny, thug and racist that are two terms. that would upset most of us. And I think, you know, Mike is being very economical with facts there. Most people watching this
Starting point is 01:11:40 will know exactly who was allegedly assaulted at that park that we're talking about in that incident. Yes, Tommy was arrested for allegedly assaulting someone who had allegedly attacked someone very, very, very close to Tommy himself. And I would imagine that most people, given his position that they would have probably done the same thing.
Starting point is 01:12:06 I know that I would have. So Mike knows those facts. So I think he's being a little bit disingenuous the way he described the incident. But look, I think it just needs to man up a little bit and just say, look, you know what? Okay, I've said some things about Tommy. Tommy said some things about me. I was wrong about him being a racist. You know, the stuff about the thug about threatening to come to my office.
Starting point is 01:12:29 No, no, no, no. It's okay for journalists to talk. We have a case with Tommy going on like this right now. It's okay for journalists to go and attack Tommy to go to his front door, to doorstep his children, to docks his family, to pull his life in danger. But as soon as he goes to try and ask them a question, he's a fuck. I'm sorry, the public just won't buy that. Very well said.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Paul Thor, Thor, who of course, Ports is one of our superstars of the independent media. I describe you, Paul, as the real people's channel. Because you know, GB News tries to claim the other people's channel. But, you know, I say Paul Thorpe is the real people's channel. And of course, you must subscribe on YouTube under Paul Thorpe official. But I love having you on outspoken. Paul, please do come back soon.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Thank you, Paul. Oh, bless you all. Thank you. And we're about to reveal today's great, well, it's not today's greatest Britain Union Jackass. It's at Friday, which means it is the, worst Britain in the world this week when we put our union jackasses from across the week and reveal who has taken the prize. It's an infamous prize, isn't it, to be named the worst Britain in the world this week. Just a reminder of your nominees, Monday was Narenda Kourt, Tuesday,
Starting point is 01:13:49 Ed Davy, Wednesday, Shibarna Mood, Thursday, Chris Packham. Let's get to some of your feedback. Eddie Byrne says, as Norenda is up there, she'll always get my vote. She hates this country and the people who don't dance to her tune but calls everyone else racist. Debatable 1984, says Norinda Corr is by far the most insufferable woman in the UK. Not the most dangerous, but definitely one of the most annoying. I was severely disappointed today, learning that she lied about moving to India if reform wins. She isn't. She loves the attention and freed with the UK too much horrible woman.
Starting point is 01:14:23 But SAV-5768 says, Shabana. We have seen all this before. A few years ago, Sualla Bravman, filled the media with all kinds of tough talk and promises to stop the boats. How many boats did she actually stop? None. That's true, but I wouldn't argue it was her fault, by the way. She was very much stopped by Sunak. Mark Chambers, said Shabana Mamu, because I don't believe a word that comes out of her mouth, smoke and mirrors. She loves Islam, like she said in her interview, Islam is her life. Britain for British, run by British people. Okay, let me get to these results. In fourth position, 6% of your vote, Chris Packham. In third position with 15% of your vote, Ed Davey. The runner-up
Starting point is 01:15:06 with 28% of the vote, Narenda Corp, but the worst Britain in the world this week, by majority with 51% of your vote, the Home Secretary Shabana MacMood. Now, do you remember at the top of the show I told you that something terrible had happened to Slippery Stama when he arrived in South Africa, we must take another look. Now, he's trying to stop us. He's actually trying to stop us from showing this clip. As Guido Forks calls it Downing Street's new North Korea comm strategy demanding everyone takes down the video of the PM falling over.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I mean, this is totally not. So let's just watch it one more time. Come on, let's listen to it too, I think, because the sound sort of gives the full view. He's a fool. He is a fool, but we've got to take those moments when we come right. Okay, thank you for your company all week. We are going to move over to Substack now for the Uncanceled Aftershow,
Starting point is 01:16:20 huge amount to discuss on the Royal Beat with, according to Taz, Royal YouTube Sensation. If you're not going to be with us over on Substack, though, I do hope you have a wonderful weekend back live with you 5pm UK time Monday, midday Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hit subscribe right now on YouTube, turn on the notification bell so you're alerted to our new episodes. We're also now available as an outspoken podcast, so I would love you to subscribe. You get us on video, on Spotify, or you can watch us or listen to us as normal on Apple Podcasts, or actually anywhere where you get your podcast. Just search for Dan Witten Outspoken. And please do rate and review five stars if you made.
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