Dan Wootton Outspoken - TOMMY ROBINSON, KATIE HOPKINS, MIKE GRAHAM & ANT MIDDLETON REVEALED AS SAVIOURS OF BRITAIN

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

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No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Whelton. This is a special edition of Outspoken episode number 388. And yes, look at this. Yule Britannia, because we are just two sleeps from Christmas. And you know what? My mum's always saying to me, Dan, people just want good news. It's all they want. Okay? So, mum, today is a test for you. Let's see if people really do want good news because we are revealing the greatest Britain's. of 2025. Now, what we have done is all year long collate your millions and millions of votes to put them in to this superstar countdown with a special festive panel, two of my absolute favourites, Lelani Daldine and Stephen Barrett. We will be hearing much more about their Christmas plans as we go today. Remember, there is no live uncanceled aftershow today, but all of our royal content still available on substack at www. www. outspoken.com. And we have a special edition for you coming on Christmas Day at midday where Lady Colin Campbell will reveal her second annual awards. I cannot wait for that. But

let's go. Lelani Dowding, Stephen Barrett, so brilliant. to have you with us for this special countdown, looking incredible, looking festive. Stephen, is this a big time of year for you? I love Christmas, Dan. I've always loved Christmas. I think it is, without question, the best time of the year. I think it brings out the best in all of us in humanity. I am a Christian, but I don't think you necessarily have to be a Christian to enjoy Christmas. I just think the focus on children, on family, on fun, on just everybody trying to be as happy as possible makes the season.

I mean, it is just a joyous time of the year. It really is. And of course, I should say, Stephen Barrett has launched a very brilliant substack this year, the public gallery. So if you are looking for a last-minute Christmas present, that would be a good one. Lelani Dowdy, you're always sparkling. for us on outspoken, but not just metaphorically today. How do you celebrate Christmas, Lilani? I'm going to be with my family.

They're going to come up from Bournemouth, up to Staffordshire, and celebrate it with me. I went to Christmas carols at the church across the road for me a couple of nights ago, and I just love Christmas. Oh, and then I'm going to muck out the horses, very glamorous. Christmas morning, put them in a field and go and enjoy my Christmas dinner with my mom, my dad, my fiance, and I think my sister and my niece have, unfortunately, they're down south for Christmas, but it will be my parents, my fiance, and the animals. Wonderful. That sounds absolutely wonderful. Well, look, here's how it's going to work today,

right? These are not my choices. They are the choices of the outspoken audience. So, I don't know, maybe you two will hate one of our greatest brittons on the list. feel free to say if you do right, because it's not often that we're all like positive, positive, positive. But these are our greatest Britons. And a lot of them have some incredible stories behind the reason they have made the list. So let's kick off at number 20. It is Ant Middleton, obviously a military hero in so many ways. But Lalani, I think what people have been most delighted to see is Ant's political bravery over the course of the year. He has revealed that he will be running against Sadiq Khan as an independent for the London

Merrillty. And he's also backed Tommy Robinson, including speaking at the United the Kingdom rally in September, even though, by the way, and I think this is despicable, it cost him a very easy run with Reform UK, who immediately dropped him from everything, whereas you'll remember at the start of the year, Lalani, he was there at the inauguration alongside Farage and Nick Candy. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it was really awful what they did him for, you know, supporting who he supports. And that shouldn't be part of the policy of reform. But going ahead, I think Anne's wonderful. You know, he has acknowledged the problems in London that Sadiq Khan refuses to do.

And I think acknowledging the issues is the first thing that you need to do to be able to make somewhere better. And I think he would be an absolutely brilliant mayor. If I was living in London, I would absolutely vote for him. I think he's a great guy and he definitely deserves to be in the top 20. And I really hope that people get out and vote for him if they live in London to take over Sadiq because that guy needs to be out and we need out Middleton in. Yeah, Stephen Barrett, it's so frustrating to me that the right is going to be divided again in this sort of generational election.

but it looks like Reform UK are going all in on Layla Cunningham. Now, a lot of people love that woman, but remember it is something that causes me a bit of discomfort given the idea from Reform UK is you've got to put up a Muslim to run against a Muslim in Khan. Edith, that is uncomfortable. And I, you know, I'm an obsessive about Tolkien. And I just think that the message is that you cannot use

the weapon of the enemy to do good. And identity politics is the weapon of the enemy. I, you know, we need to put identity politics down. We need to defeat it. We need to destroy identity politics, fling it back into the fires of Mount Doom, and get rid of it. None of it matters. We don't actually care about identity politics. And it's, it's been used to do nothing but cause evil in our lands. You know, all of this anti-racism stuff, which actually ends up being more racist than racism. We need to put all of this away. But this is, you know, this is about Aunt Middleton.

And, I mean, I didn't know who he was before doing this show, which I think just shows how unconnected from reality I am. But he seems to spend a delightful amount of time, topless, which I appreciate, and seems to be a very handsome man. And I say that in a flippant way. But we live in a tyranny of weak men. And he's quite obviously. a very strong man. And that's what will come to replace the tyranny of weak men. Now, what we need

is strong men who then support democracy. What we don't want is some other type of strong man. But there's nothing wrong with strong men. We need them in our lives. The current mayor of London is a disgrace. London is failing. It's dangerous. I don't feel personally safe there anymore. and a strong man is not a bad idea. Now, ironically, Layla Cunningham may also end up being a strong man figure that I grew up with a strong man who was a woman when I was a child, who's called Margaret Thatcher. So it's perfectly possible to be strong

and to display these characteristics of manliness, which are about being protective and supportive, looking after children, making things safe. But that's what London needs. It needs that from somebody. And you're quite right, Dan, to just highlight we don't really want the right to be divided. It's really unfortunate now every time the right is divided because it's the left that is a really serious danger to our people. Totally.

But it's very obvious, Lillan Day, view Ant Middleton as a threat because by the end of this year, he's in court. They're trying to shut him down. And why is he in court? Oh, is it for violence? Is it for fraud or tax evasion? Oh, no, it's because he spoke out on a podcast and now trying to get him on revealing military secrets, which he says he absolutely didn't do. Of course, but it's the usual thing, law fair, when they're a little afraid of you. And as Stephen said, we need, you know, strong people now.

So, you know, I think the tide's going to turn. I think it's time for the strong men and strong women to get into positions of power. And, you know, this law fair, everyone sees it for what it is. it needs to stop. It needs to stop. And, you know, all of us, all of us need to stand against that now because it's very apparent what they're trying to do to anybody whose speech they disagree with and whose speech doesn't follow the narrative. Well, look, we've got a strong woman at number 19 on our countdown of Greatest Britons. She emerged this year with a flourish. And I have to say, I absolutely adore her. Sarah White, one of the leaders,

of the pink ladies in Epping Essex who started that revolution across the country over summer. But remember she was then arrested and she was arrested at the Eppingtown Hall for daring to unfurl a union jack on a public building, Stephen Barrett. Now, the cops eventually backed down

and dropped the charges, but it was an extraordinary moment. I think we've just got to start, accepting that the police are abusing their powers because there is no absolutely no basis in law for arresting her for that. I mean, I can't, I mean, I can be quite imaginative with law and I used to be paid an awful lot of money by clients

to be imaginative with law. But there is no way that you can come up with some reason to arrest her there. She absolutely was a victim of tyranny. And Essex police in particular, I mean, it's hard to know with our current policing system, which is the worst police force. But Essex Police is definitely in the top three. And when the Essex chief constable is sacked, I will, you know, toast.

I will have a glass of champagne because it's just ridiculous. The pink ladies are an exposition of pure English goodness, mildly eccentric, utterly charming and completely just on the side of good. And the idea that you crack down on those with military-style police is just ridiculous. I mean, you know, they are the hobbits and the police are the orcs. But of course, CNN, Lulani is trying to deride the pink ladies now as a far right threat. you know i think that that word has become meaningless it's been overused and it's absolutely

meaningless and you know what people like sarah white are not going to stop because some you know rag of a channel CNN calls her fire right and this is a thing she's not going to stop because she was arrested she's not going to stop because of the name calling she's going to continue on the mission which is that to get the message out there that we need to protect the women and children from these, you know, men that we have no idea about being in these hotels. To me, she's an absolute inspiration, and it's great that she's in there. It's wonderful that somebody local has gone out and started, you know, a whole movement because this is what we need. We can't just rely on the usual faces and the usual suspects to do it.

We need the grassroots people from the area. And, you know, it's absolutely, I think she's wonderful. I think she's an inspiration. She definitely deserves to be here in the top 20. Another inspiration for us, Lelani Dowding. We actually were on the Mark Stein Cruise with her earlier in the year at number 18. It's Sammy Woodhouse. But of course, Lelani, this is for her work on the Pakistani Muslim rape gang. She was a victim.

And this year, she joined the panel on Rupert Lowe's independent inquiry into that scandal. Yeah, do you know, Sammy, I just think is so brave, you never hear her moaning complaining. She's out there trying to do something positive, making change. You know, she's written this brilliant book about her life story. And I just think she's wonderful because she doesn't sit there and, and, you know, kind of go inwards. She's all about making change, trying to help other victims of, you know, these horrific acts that will silenced for so long, you know, she brings light to it. And I just think, again, she's just another very brave, strong, heroic woman. And she's doing so much good for the people that have been totally and utterly abused and have forgotten about, not just by the men, but then again, by the system. And I mean, she has been on this for a long time, Stephen Barrett, before it was trendy, before it was an issue that was an acceptable issue to talk about, there was Sammy Woodhouse.

Yes, and she deserves huge credit for everything that she's done, as does Rupert Lowe. I mean, the two of them are pushing forward an actual inquiry while our government is quite clearly trying to create a fake inquiry that just covers everything up again and causes maximum delay. And what's going to happen, I predict, but I don't consider myself a genius for having this prediction, is that the government's inquiry is going to be completely shelved and forgotten because it's not going to achieve anything.

They're obviously Labour cronies running the entire thing, whilst Rupert and Sammy's inquiry will actually achieve far, far more. And then, Dan, we need to start seeing arrests. And the entire point now, because we thank goodness, Suella started it, but thank goodness we see arrests of the actual rapists, but now we want to see arrests and I want to see arrests of the councillors, of the authority leaders, of the social workers, of the secondary group who permitted all of this.

And that's what I want to see what the Americans call the accessories to the crime. You know, I want to see all of them arrested. And I want to see trials and I want to see them banged. up because what happened, on an absolutely fundamental basis, what happened was a grotesque abuse of our children. And it almost cannot be forgiven. And I still don't think the nation is angry enough. I look forward to the nation getting angrier over there. 100%. And that's why people like Sammy are so important. But look, a change of pace at number 17. He sparked a huge story here at outspoken this year.

After a Facebook post, which bosses at News UK said was racist, he denied ever posting. But it did result in Mike Graham being sacked or axed from talk TV to go independent. And it has sparked a civil war at the station. Stephen Barrett, they are now at each other's throats. I just think the entire thing is desperately unfortunate. I don't think, to be perfectly honest, that the nation is still in this outrage culture.

I don't think that most people still want to cancel people. To my mind, it's a lot like the Salem witch trials. Yeah. Okay, but to have the Salem witch trials, people have to pretend that there are witches. And I think that the nation has actually moved beyond pretending that there are witches. Nobody can seriously believe that Mike Graham is a racist. It's not plausible.

So just sort of pointing fingers at him and screaming racist, it doesn't really work. And it should never have worked. And I think all of us can now see, maybe Mike is the turning of the tide, but a lot of us can see that what happened to him is really just not fair. No. And Lalani Dowding, again, it was sort of like suicidal empathy from talk. TV. Get rid of your top rating most popular presenter because he expresses a view. I mean, let's stress again. Mike says he never said that, but he expresses a view perhaps inartfully,

but is something that all the talk viewers and listeners really agree with, which is that uncontrolled mass immigration has changed the face of our country. What's incredible is that Mike is actually performing now in the independent space stronger than Talk TV itself. It is incredible. I'd also say that Mike's Post is directly, because I, you know, I'm a lawyer and I'm a little bit obsessive about comparisons, but Humza Yusuf stood up in the Scottish Parliament and complained about there being too many white faces and too many white people. Right. Well, that is exactly the same type of thing that Mike posted about. And yet Humza Yusuf is lauded and Mike is removed.

And that is really just wherever you stand on any of this, they should have been treated consistently and they weren't. Let's get a little bit royal in our countdown now of the greatest Britons At number 16, it is Catherine, the Princess of Wales. And Stephen, I think what was so incredible about her year is that the cancer battle was put behind her and she wanted to return to her work. And this was a level of work we were seeing, Catherine, in a way that actually a lot of people predicted may never happen again after her cancer and health battles. And we see in Princess Catherine a type of royal that we are just blessed to have. I mean, she is incredibly hardworking.

She is incredibly level-headed. We are blessed additionally in the fact that she's incredibly glamorous. I mean, I was always a huge, a colossal fan of the Queen Mother. But the Queen Mother was never quite as glamorous as this. So it's just an additional win. but she seems to have exactly the same sort of mindset, exactly the same sort of level-headedness, and a deep and natural understanding of the public,

a deep and natural understanding of her role. And our country is built upon a very fine and delicate balance of power. We, I think, you know, I bang on about our constitution, and people have sort of forgotten that at the heart of our nation lies the relationship between the people via Parliament and the monarchy. And that those two core, those are our two core chambers. Those are the heart of the nation that beat. And I have nothing but confidence and faith in the future of the monarchy

with Princess Catherine involved. She's just marvellous. Lillardi Dowling, are you a fan of Catherine? I have to say, I am a huge fan of Catherine. and I'm not a royalist at all. I actually do not like, especially now the new royal family. I'm not a fan of King Charles. I'm not a fan of Prince William.

But I do love Catherine. I love looking at every single picture and video of her. And to think this poor lady had cancer and she's out there in the public and she just looks beautiful and glamorous every time I see her. And I guess maybe it's because I always love the disease. princesses, but I do love a beautiful princess. And Princess Catherine is absolutely gorgeous.

And she's just aged like fine wine. And I think she's stunning. And all the pictures you got on, I just love looking at her. And I don't know if that's what you're meant to do and how you're meant to think of the royal family. But, you know, I'm still into the Disney princesses. So she's up there for me. At number 15, on our countdown of the greatest Britons of 2025. And what a year she had, Sharon Davies, someone who put it all on the line, actually, to champion women's rights, especially on this, what was seen at the time as a hot potato issue in terms of trans people being able to compete in women's categories.

Again, I'd just be clear about it. men competing in women's categories. But Lelani Dowding, it was a full circle moment for Sharon Davies this year because she is a hero again and now she's going to be entering the House of Lords. I love Sharon Davies.

You know, it was right from the start when we couldn't talk about it. You know, as you said, she was out there and as a swimmer, you know, she was such a successful swimmer, gold medals, represented us and to think that

you know if she lived now that could have all been taken away from her by a man coming in and beating her so it was wonderful that she spoke out from having that experience of being such a you know huge gold medalist and so to me

you know if she'd stayed silent I think it would have been very weak and a lot of sports women did stay silent and they allowed men to come and play in the sports. We saw it actually with a lot of the English footballers. They just kind of stayed silent or they said it was okay. And Sharon, when it was very unpopular, said, look, we should not have men in women's sports. It's completely unfair.

So to me, she's a hero for doing that. And I'm so glad that she spoke up. I mean, she was demonised, Stephen. And that demonisation had a very real. cost too. It had a financial cost. It had a professional cost. But Sharon Davies didn't care because she was going to do what was right. Well, ultimately, to do good, you have to stand with truth. And that's what Sharon did. You cannot have men in women's sports. You cannot have men in women's spaces either. And that's another battle that we're still fighting. And history, I hope,

we'll think that we were completely ridiculous for ever going down this path. But those who were brave enough to fight, who did pay a price for that, we have to acknowledge that. That they are the heroes of our age. And Sharon is an absolute hero. So to all young women in the country now,

soon to be, Baroness, Sharon Davith, is an absolute hero. And I saw a tweet just yesterday, I think, saying that she'd been in the College of Arms. So just for viewers, that means that she's picking out her coat of arms. And soon she will have a coat of arms. And I look forward to seeing what it is.

Exactly. And fight for what's right. And indeed she will be a noble baroness. Yeah, exactly. And fight for what's right. And in the end, do you see what I mean? In the end, if you fight for what's right, you will be proven right. But look, I want to move on to number 14,

because it's a big up to one of our cohorts in the independent media. I think this is brilliant. Maya 2C, the man behind 2C TV. But Stephen Barrett, we also celebrated at this young man's wedding this year. It was a wonderful day. Well, that was actually at his 2CTV Christmas party, Stephen. But it was a wonderful day, wasn't it, when Maya tied the knot to. Great to see a whole load of people from across the political spectrum.

as well, you know, from Tommy Robinson to Nigel Evans, former speaker at the house. But this is really great because Maya has had a huge year hitting a million subscribers on YouTube. He has. I mean, there is something, just so viewers know, there is something absolutely surreal about having to come on a show and talk about your mate. I mean, it's just fundamentally weird. because Meyer, to me, is just somebody I expect to buy me a pint. I mean, that's his role. But he is utterly...

Well, he'll be having to buy you another pint after your kind words. Well, I want viewers to know that he is utterly sort of unprepossessing. Like, he's not arrogant in any way. He's utterly just who he is and who he appears to be. He's an absolute joy to be around. That's Danielle, his new wife. Their wedding, actually, to my mind, Dan, was that I think it's the best wedding I've ever been to.

I had the honour of being a groomsman and I, you know, I dried the flowers so that I preserved them in perpetuity. It's just, he's just a story of absolute joy. Again, he is leading the charge, as you are leading the charge, for independent media. And I don't think anybody in the country has any love for the mainstream media anymore at all. And I think they all need to die. And I say this as somebody who,

who grew up on the BBC and would have been the greatest defender of the BBC. I never thought I would turn against the BBC, but I have turned against the BBC. Independent media is the way forward. People willing to say the truth and share their reviews. I don't have to agree with Meyer all of the time, but that, again, he doesn't demand that.

He just does his work. And what he does is lead the way on new stories. I mean, he's remarkably good on stuff there's a fantastically interesting that the mainstream media is way too slow to ever cover. That's why he's successful. He just jumps on the interesting stuff.

He realizes that the secret to success in media is telling people interesting things that they might not know. I mean, that's it. Rather than trying to re-educate them or make them better socialists or whatever the hell it is the BBC's doing. But Maya deserves

every success he has and he's being very successful. Oh, totally. And the great thing about it is, Llanney. I mean, he was an original. So I'm one of those people who had been in the mainstream media, had done my best, was cancelled, you know. So I'm in like the Meg and Kelly sort of Tucker Carlson box here in the UK.

But Maya is the original. He's a digital native. He rejected the mainstream media because he believed in the independent media. I have so much respect for him. as a result of that. He did start as a citizen journalist out there recording all about what's going on and the latest news from his point of view without ever trying to appease anybody in the mainstream.

So I think that's what it is. And although I've only met him very briefly a couple of times and he's very, you know, he's very kind, very charming, I think that that is the most important thing about him, his authenticity and his ability to relate to, you know, everyday people around Britain. So true. At number 13 on our countdown, Katie Amos, now she is an incredible woman, an incredible woman, the daughter of the Tory MP, David Amos, who was slaughtered in an Islamist terror attack. And Stephen, she will not stop until she has got justice

for her father. And she's not taking the platitudes and the false promises from slippery Stama, Yvette, Cooper and Shabana Mahmood. She will not stop. And thank God she will not stop because Stephen,

it will happen again. It will. And she is a lesson to us all in that the best way to achieve anything in this age is to not give in. And she will not give in. She will not stop.

She keeps going on and on and on because she has a rightful message. She is the victim of great evil, and it is about time that we recognize this. I mean, particularly after Bondi, I feel as though there has finally been an admission that something terrible exists in our society, but we are going to have to address Islamic extremism because it is killing us. And it is dangerous to all of us. And it is not on. And we, I think we, ultimately, fear of being called racist has to go away

because the fear of being killed is just greater. And we are going to have to deal with this. And I say that as somebody with a lot of very good Muslim friends. And I don't think the left have served Muslims very well at all. Because I think every single time those of us who are vaguely sensible have tried to separate Islamic extremists from decent Muslims, the left have come along and team them back up again and push them back into a big huddle.

And we are very clearly going to have to pull them apart because there are decent Muslims and there are Islamic extremists and the Islamic extremists are going to have to be dealt with. I mean, Lelani, it's interesting, isn't it? Because, of course, within 48 hours of that bottom, I Beach terror attack, which shocked the world. The UK government was pushing through with its Islamophobia definition,

meaning that having conversations like this could soon be illegal. And again, I think that's why Katie Amos is so important. It's like her father was the greatest example of a local MP, a public servant. He was killed by an Islamist terrorist. Her life was destroyed. she doesn't want others like other people to suffer what she has and that's why I think what she's doing is so important. It's absolutely right, Dan.

It's so important and we cannot brush Islamic extremists aside. And like the foreign minister to the UAE has said eight years ago now, that our ignorance about Islamic extremism and just wanting to be politically correct is what's going to put us in a lot of trouble and so we have to address it head on and I just want to say another amazing thing about KTMS is that she is a huge, huge animal advocate

and you know so that that's close to me as well and she really really you know tries to get the information out there of what's going on so the latest thing that I learned from her actually is that straight on in the UK are put to sleep just after seven days. That's all they have to find their old home or a new owner

and she has brought that to public awareness and so that's a really important cause for her and I know that there's a lot of other people who aren't in the political arena that will be very interested to know that that's something else that she fights for. Yeah, no, she does. Really great that you've pointed that out. Okay, a couple of very ad entries in our countdown now. At number 12, the late Peter Whistle, the founder of the new culture forum, a great man who we lost this year, Stephen Barrett. He fought absolutely

stoically and with huge dignity to the very end. But the loss of Peter Whittle actually was so devastating for our United Kingdom, Stephen, because we needed him and we need his organisation, the New Culture Forum. We do. We absolutely need this voice. And I've been honoured

to speak to branches of the New Culture Forum just to explain issues of law and the constitution to them. What he's done is he will go down as a legend in turning the tide

and in correcting our country. And his, I mean, it is deeply moving. His funeral is literally on Monday. So, I mean, this is, you know, this is, this is raw. He was very honest, even about his own diagnosis and what was going to happen to him. He didn't sugarcoat it. He came out and just told us to look up and diagnosed and we know what's going to happen. And obviously it did.

He is a, he is the epitome of a strong man. And, and Dan, can I? Can I say that, because, you know, we're both same-sex attracted. And often when you're a young same-sex-attracted man, there's a pressure in our culture that you're not a real man. Well, he proved that wrong because he is an absolute, I mean, he will go down as a father of the nation. I mean, this is an incredibly strong man who not only faced, you know,

political opponents, our political decay, tried to reverse it, tried to save our country, but stared down. death in the face with immense bravery, courage and strength. I mean, he is a truly remarkable man, and I hope he is remembered for a very long time. Yeah, Lelani, I mean, he was dignified and classy till the very end. I last saw him at the annual New Culture Forum drinks, which he had invited me to. And it was literally just a couple of weeks before he retired reluctantly from public life. But he was looking incredible.

He still held that room with real power. And of course, it was all because he knew how important saving the United Kingdom was. And by the way, Lulani, before anyone else, he realized that we are in a culture war. That's why this was the new culture for him. Before anyone else, 20 years ago, Peter Whittle predicted this culture war that has left us where we are today. Absolutely. And I think that's what I've, you know, I've said this quite a lot of the time that there's a lot of social and cultural aspects that then become, they get made political when really it's, you know, cultural and social. And I think no one had a bad word against him. You know, he was gentle. He was insightful. He was very, very well respected. And, you know, you can only hope that when you go, you can leave a legacy. And I think he has done that. he's definitely left a legacy behind him. And, you know, he was so on point with, you know, the cultural aspects of everything.

So, you know, it's very sad. Absolutely. The new cultural forum is an incredible legacy. And at number 11, on the list, another man, great man, who we lost in 2025. James Whale, who really Stephen Barrett was the original of this format, the Godfather of talk radio in the United Kingdom. And he was a man who was number one of broadcasting great. But for me, personally, as a young broadcaster, a young talk broadcaster behind the scene, someone who was super supportive. You know there are so many people in this industry who don't want to see young people succeed. They maybe view you as a threat or they don't want to help you.

Oh my God, James Well, I worked with him a lot. at talk radio when I was the drive time presenter and his show would follow mine. But even before I got that drive time slot and when I was just doing my weekly slot on a Sunday, he would call me after the show and he'd be saying, I've been listening to you on the way in, you're really good at this, this is what you're doing well, this is what you're not doing well. And I think because he had such a boisterous persona on screen, which was always engineered Stephen for the big explosive moments, right? And lots of rows, people maybe didn't assumed that off-screen, he was actually a wonderful, supportive, encouraging man.

Yes, but it was obvious in the pure outpouring of love that happened as soon as he was diagnosed. And although he achieved so much in talk and pushing forward and engaging with the people, I do think how he faced death will be his legacy. Because again, we've become a society that is almost too cowardly to admit that we will all die. And he brought that back home to us. And it's a very important thing to remember because if we're all going to die, then it's important how we live.

And it's important that we live in truth and that we live in goodness and that we achieve good things during our lives. And it's quite a useful thing to admit that we will die and to face that reality. And I think that really will. be James's legacy. It caused a lot of people to realize that we don't have infinite time. And if we don't have infinite time, how we use our time is desperately important. I think we saw

that yesterday with the, you know, this puberty blocker trial is going to mutilate children. And Tom Tuggenhardt has sort of come across the field, if you like, from being a bit of a lefty liberal to being on the side of sanity and normality and admit. that, do you know what, we can't mutilate children and it's time to speak out. And it's going to be time to speak out for a lot of us. And a lot of us will have that courage because of how James Whale faced things.

He's a remarkably strong man. And much loved by his wife as well. That was also lovely to see. Yeah, Nadine was a wonderful woman, actually. And Lulani, people forget that James Whale quite soon before he faced his own cancer battle had lost his first wife to cancer, which was utterly devastating for him. But then Nadine came into his life and stood by him through those darkest days

and really gave him a second act, which is pretty incredible because obviously after James was grieving following the loss of his first wife, first wife, things were pretty dark. Yeah, I think, you know, it is very sad. And I think, you know, I know that a couple of times, couple of people are going to come on and attack me for saying it because James had a very strong stance against the um for the COVID jab sorry well I was against it and you know people have attacked me because I've got on his show since but I would never wish illness on anyone so first of all and I think it is absolutely horrendous when anyone dies of cancer so I'll say that too and I remember

I would rather remember people by the things that we agreed on. And I remember going on James's show because he'd seen me very emotional about the Hugh Edwards verdict when Hugh Edwards was allowed to walk free after, you know, after the horrific things that he had on his phone, he walked free from jail. And James got me on the show and we talked about that and we agreed with it.

And I think that that's really important that, you know, in a day where there's so much toxicity and everyone's arguing. It's really important to think about the things that you actually really do agree on and what you, you know, the common similarities we have and what we're all really fighting for

because we all really want, you know, this country to be great again, I think, I truly believe. And, you know, James was a good broadcaster. He had a, he also, yeah, he also had, you know, a long legacy of being a very good broadcaster. So, you know, it's very sad, and we should never, ever, ever, you know, be glad about or dance at anyone's grave.

We're into the top 10 of the greatest Britons of 2025 as chosen by millions of outspoken viewers throughout the year. And in some ways, this might be a surprising entry on the list. because this time last year, Lucy Connolly was behind bars, Slippery Stama's ultimate political prisoner after she was locked up for sending those tweets on the night of the Southport massacre, soon deleted by the way. But you know what? It's the old cliche, isn't it? Let's turn lemons into lemonade.

And my God, Lucy Connolly has done that. Since her release from prison, she has become a champion for free speech. She has spoken at Parliament alongside Rupert Lowe. She has even been on stage at the Reform UK Conference campaigning for prison reform. Plus Stephen Barrett and Lulani Daldine, she's now a regular superstar panelist here on outspoken. And Lelani, why I love Lucy Connolly is it's like, She is an ordinary woman who was put into an extraordinary position. And that matters.

And I think her voice, and this is where Labor really dropped the ball because her voice is so much louder than it ever would have been, even though she had to go through that hell of that prison sentence. Exactly that. And she has not been silenced. And that's the main thing that she has come out and she is stronger. And she has not let them silence her

for a second. And what happened to her? I just think it's absolutely horrific. But it went all around the world so that it shows how tyrannical and horrific that this government is. You can contrast it with, as I said, Hugh Edwards, who just walked free from jail for the worst possible, you know, quite things, having, I don't even want to say it, with the children on his phone. And you walk free from jail, yet Lucy Connolly goes in. So you contrast what's happening in the UK. And you just see how her, you can just see however. So anyway, sorry, I'm going off point because it actually makes me so angry.

But Lucy Connolly is out of prison. She's speaking about it. She's telling everyone to speak out. She's fighting for free speech. She hasn't withdrawn into a shell, which would have been the absolute worst thing that she, you know, that she could have done. So to me, I think she's absolutely heroic that she's out there and she's, you know, fighting for us to be able to say what we want to say. Totally.

And when you look, yeah. And Stephen Barrett, I guess she's a walking talking illustration that two-tier justice does exist in two-tier Britain. And that free speech doesn't exist, Stephen. No matter how many times Kirstama might lie to Donald Trump, might lie to J.D. Fants, oh, we've had free speech for a very long time in Britain. Yep. Yeah, we did.

We don't anymore. We don't. And two-tier is absolutely real. I mean, the greatest, for me, the peak surrealness of two-tier was when we made a home secretary, Suella Brotherman, resign, for admitting that two-tier existed. We literally forced her out because she just admitted the problem. I mean, that is just absurd.

And I hope that was probably the problem. peak of it. But Lucy getting 31 months when there's a child rapist case I saw yesterday who got 18 months. I mean, this is just absolutely absurd. This is what they, you know, we are falling into a form of slow communism and it's just as bad as quick communism. And it's where the police and the law are simply used against political opponents, whereas actual criminals wander the streets freely. And I think we can all see this. And Lucy Connolly is the totemic example of that. And that's why we're all rejecting it. For goodness sake, she was a mum who tweeted. I personally don't think that her tweet did break the law. That's my legal opinion. And I wish

that it had been challenged. I think that the state behaved in a totally disproportionate and monstrous way in order to force her to plead guilty and once she had pled guilty now the state like a spoiled little child that has bullied somebody sits there going well she pled guilty so she must be guilty

and I just I hate that I literally loathe it it makes my skin crawl with the sheer passive aggressive abusiveness of it all it's a total disgrace it is not how a country a noble country should

or should be or ought to be. And I loathe the entire thing. I love the fact that she is becoming a celebrity because that shows that whilst this is a tyranny, this is a tyranny of weak men. Okay? And ultimately, as long as she refuses to be cowed, they can't even stop her.

So from their point of view, she's just a mum and we la la la did our little bit of bullying. Yeah, but as long as she refuses to give in, As long as she stands strong, the weak men can do nothing to her. And they are exposed as the cowardly sniveling little men that they are. I'm going to start using a phrase on Twitter. I'm going to start calling them we men. I'm going to call them the we man.

And it's all for all these little lefty politicians who are just, and they're not, and I've got friends on the left. So I hate that I have to sort of use the phrase the left. And I should use the modern left. as the great noble tradition of actual left-wing politicians who cared about the working class is sadly long dead and instead we have these venal, petty, weak men who want to put mums like Lucy Connolly in prison

for basically her crime was having a husband who was a conservative counsellor. Let's be absolutely honest. That's what they did. And why do they do it? To scare us all. But at number nine, on our countdown, one of our favourites,

part of the outspoken family, the wonderful, legendary lady Colin Campbell, who in part makes the list, Lelani, because my God, she is a trooper. This year, she actually broke her pelvis in a horrendous accident at a film premiere, but immediately was speaking out from her hospital beard, here on outspoken, slamming the NHS for its utter incompetence while at the same time broadcasting her YouTube channel every single day. And I just think, oh my God, we don't make them like Lady Colin Campbell anymore. Long may she rain. Oh, that's the thing, isn't it? I think people are sick of weaknesses now. And I think it's wonderful that she's there explaining everything that's going on from her hospital bed.

People are sick of the NHS. You know, the weights are absolutely insane. You know, there's people with serious injuries just being expected to just sit around for hours and hours and hours. Well, they make excuse after excuse, and now it's the flu. So now you're going to have a long wait because now the flu's about. And it's all just a load of nonsense.

But people like people are warming much more now to strong people instead of the victim Olympics and I think that that's why people really, really like Colin Campbell. She's wonderful Stephen. I mean honestly she's one of my favourite people in the world.

She is very good to you and I actually think she's a very good impact on you and I think we do all need very strong ladies in our life. I'm very lucky to enjoy the care and protection of lady

Judy McAlpine. And again, just these very strong female figures who are allowed to be mildly eccentric because that's what we do here. You know, that's part of what we do. We don't all have to conform. We don't all have to be the same. We're not from some processed, you know, biscuit factory where everybody is exactly the same. We celebrate and engage in actual diversity without any diversity, You know, it's part of who we are as a people. And I think Leilani's point is actually bang on the money. She's strong. That's what she is.

She is strength. And we need to get strength back. Because if we're living in this age of these diddy little wee men, then I think we need to go back to an age of strength. And by the way, Gen Z is young people love it. She's constantly going viral on TikTok. People love that no-nonsense approach. They're sick of the woke-toe.

opians pandering to them. And young people actually love Lady Colin Campbell. But look at number eight on our list of other favourite of ours. Alison Pearson, legendary Daily Telegraph columnist, my partner in crime when it came to delivering Lucy Connolly's story to the world. And it really was Alison Pearson's feature in the Daily Telegraph that was able to change opinions. And the thing is Delani, what we know about Alison Pearson is that it would be so easy for her in the mainstream media to just ignore these stories, but she never does. She puts herself on the line. And I actually don't think there is another columnist in the mainstream media

Lilani anymore who does that outside of Alison Pearson. No, I think you're absolutely right. I think that, you know, Alison really is the one person in the mainstream that is bringing the stories that people really need to see to light. And I don't think that people would be, would know Lucy Connolly, any, you know, as much as they do now without Alison Pearson, you know, she went and, yeah, she really researched the entire case. And I think loads of people just, you know, read the original headlines, oh, this, you know, terrible woman, she's been, she's been put away,

or they didn't know, but to see that it was a mother locked away for so long for something that was only on social media for, you know, a few hours, and then taken down. And then Alison kind of went into it that actually Lucy had looked after school children from immigrants and those immigrant parents were happy to speak up for Lucy and say many, many good things about Lucy. And, you know, I think that that's where Alison really, really helped bring this horrific case into everyone's view to the point where so many everyday people were like, This is insane what is happening in England. How has this mother been locked up for so long for a post that was taken down four hours later?

And I think it really, it kind of lit a firework. Yeah, I mean, she did change the opinion of the elite class, Stephen, because, for example, Julia Hartley Brewer, the talk TV presenter actually interviewed Lucy Connolly later in the year and apologised to her for having previously said, I've got no problem with Lucy Connolly going to prison. And she said it was all because Alison Pearson had changed her mind. Now, obviously that's frustrating for me in a way because it's like, well, all of the information was out there.

You just had to look at it. You just had to read the cases. But at the same time, no one did, Stephen Barrett. You know, like G.B. News, the Daily Mail, Talk TV, they were all anti-Lucy Connolly until Alison Pearson published her feature. Yes, and it's greatly frustrating for me because I often, like you, I expect people to go out and read things and discover, but they don't. They rely on the headline on the BBC website.

They rely on the headline. So I've just come to accept that my role in life is often just to explain things that I think people ought to already be aware of, but for various reasons they are not. Alison goes well beyond my role. I mean, she's a crusading force for good. And very few people end up being bigger than the publication that they publish for. I can't think of a Times journalist who is bigger than the Times. But I can tell you that right now that Alison Pearson is bigger than the Telegraph.

So true. And people talk about her all the time. People talk about her as an independent. force, although she's obviously main, she is technically mainstream media, but she's just on the side of good, she's not going to back down, and again,

strength. She's not a diddy wee man. She's got real strength to it. She's got, you know, Cahoney. She's got the absolute substance to Alison. I have the pleasure of knowing her socially and she is, I just want to

reassure your viewers, she is an absolute delight. She's one of those people, a bit like Dan, that you gravitate towards at parties because you just want to be around goodness and fun. And having Alison at any event is a plus. She is a total delight. And number seven on our list, it is J.K. Rowling and Lalani Daldine,

this woman just gets bolder by the year. No, good on her. She has been standing up for girls and women, despite all the mass trolling, despite the death threats, despite all the venom from the public and the small amount of public and trans activists that are there. But, you know, I absolutely love her because she has stood up against, you know, the worst attacks because, you know, she's on the side of us. She's on the side of us. She doesn't want men in women's spaces. She doesn't want men in women's sports. You know, the letter that she wrote, I can't, Emma Watson, is it Emma Watson?

It was just amazing. You know, Emma has had such privilege from being an actress and being able to grow up, having the security and the money from one of J.K.'s books that it's, that it's It's just nonsense that she was to attack and turn her turn on JK herself. And JK this year was like, enough, enough. And she called her out and she did it, I think, in a compassionate way. But there is that bravery. It is funny, though, Stephen Barrett, thinking of how people like me have changed the whole view on JK Rowling.

And I was actually at, before Christmas, I was at, sorry, before Christmas week, I was at this Dominic Frisbee comedy geek. He does this big sort of end of year. gig, absolutely brilliant at the backyard comedy club, which is actually in the heart of Sadiqan's Islamist London, which makes it almost more funny. Do you know what I mean? Because it's like we're in their underground amongst all of the Islamists and amongst all of the woketopians. But he does a song about the Brexit referendum. And at the time, because J.K. Rowling was obviously one of the Ramona in chiefs, she's actually listed as like one of the Jackasses, one of the bad guys. And he has to add in a line into the song now, a new lyric where he

says, oh, we've sort of changed our view on that. Just very funny, isn't it? But I think even though she is a lefty, it doesn't matter when it comes to an issue like biological sex. It's above politics. And that's what's so interesting about the culture war, isn't it? Sometimes politics doesn't matter. It's just about truth. Or people say it's not about right and left anymore. It's about right and wrong. And I think that's another category that we could put J.K. Rowling in. She's just right on these key issues of the day, even if her politics might be far to the left where I come from. Well, I would put the lady in the House of Lords because I think she would be a great credit to that institution and of great benefit to the nation. As you say, I think that the

slightly introverted narcissistic politics of what I call party politics is dying because we are facing such massive crises, such obvious fights between basic good and basic evil that what we're going to see and what I hope to see is what I call the Coalition of the Decent. And J.K. Rowling is more than welcome in the Coalition of the Decent with me and with you, whatever tiny differences we might have on some issue of policy, because on issues like are men, women, obviously those of us who know that men are not women need to stand together. On issues like, should the state be able to kill us via mass death in the NHS, which is what assisted suicide is, it's just eugenics, this is basic good and evil.

on issues like abortion up to term, basic good and evil. And I think we are well beyond having little differences between us, meaning us that we should fall out, when all of those of us who are a basically good human being need to come together. And J.K. Rowling is without doubt a good human being. She is. And on a very similar theme at number six on our list of Greatest Britons, it's the women's rights campaigner Kelly J. Kean.

Now, I adore this woman, Lulani, another one who was so ahead of her time, another one who put everything on the line and was vilified and physically abused and banned from Western countries like Australia and New Zealand. You know, I'm so glad to see her on here because she has been fighting for so long And she doesn't have the, you know, financial security that J.K. Rowling has, you know, she's a, you know, a little lady that's just going out there and fighting for women's rights, fighting to have, you know, like, just like Sharon and like JK, but without the celebrity to start with and without those finances to start with. So she doesn't have fuck off money. That's the thing. Exactly. And, you know, she's put herself in danger. She's been in danger.

but she's there to shout for us to be our voice and, you know, I fully support her. I love everything that she's doing. And to me, she's, you know, absolutely deserving of a position here in the top 10. Absolutely. Do you agree, Stephen Barrett? Yes, yes.

And I think it's good to note that your viewers are siding with all of the angels in this fight. I don't know how we got here I honestly don't I mean you literally can we do not have the power we're not we're not gods we're just an evolved ape we do not have the power

or the science to turn a man into a woman and we cannot do it and so to pretend that we can is simply a lie so those who stand with truth should never have been vilified should never have faced any of this nonsense

it's absolutely categorically obviously. And I talked about forced teeming in the good Muslims and the Islamic extremists. I feel Dan that, you know, because we're both from the letter soup, I think we're often forced teamed with some really dangerous

people. I don't want to be. I can't bear it. With the Q plus people. I don't want to and I rejected it very early on. Actually, before this was a thing, you know, that whole LGBT thing decided that I was a bad

guy. And it's like, yeah, because I've got you. I've got you. I'm a gay man. I'm not in your party. I'm not in your camp. I don't believe in LGBT. All of that alphabet suit. Absolutely no way. It's like they literally said to us, Dan, go and stand over there with the dangerous perverts who are a threat to children. I'm like, no, I don't want to stand over there. Exactly. No thing. And by the way, at the trigonometry Christmas party, I did meet Kelly J. Keene's husband. And what a great man he is, too. I mean, he's not out there publicly, you don't see him. But I thought, well, you've got to be a really strong man actually and very, very confident to let your wife put herself on the line like that and the very united, great couple. And so that was wonderful to see as well. This is a really

interesting theme, actually, because on a similar issue, but I guess for very different reasons this year, at number five on our list of Greatest Britons of 2025, as voted by you, Graham Linehan. And I think Lelani, the moment that put him so high on this list, although I'm a huge fan of Graham Lennan, always have been, you know, Father Ted creator, someone who was completely thrust out of polite society again for just standing up for a biological reality. But Lelani, I think the reason he's so high on the list this year is because of the way he was arrested at Heathrow airport by armed police for tweets Lelani. And it's like, have we learned not? Nothing. Plus, he's back in court the next day because they're just weaponising the justice system against him.

But I think it was that arrest. That was the moment where people were like, enough of this. Oh, yeah, absolutely, because people are sick of it. And there's no way that he should have got arrested for the tweets. And I think he turned up into court with that billboard on him saying, like, no men in women's sports. No, God on him. You know what? He lost so much speaking up for us. He lost so much for just speaking the truth. Yeah, his wife, his career, his career, everything financially, he got obliterated. It's like, you know, for the simple things that you cannot, a man cannot be a woman. That's it.

But like you said, it's the fact that he got arrested and people are sick of it. People are absolutely sick and tired of people, good people, very good people, getting arrested, whether or not they get charged is irrelevant now because it's the whole process you've still got to hire the lawyers you've got to be put through that stress you've got to be you know

you're made out you've got this thing just hovering over your head and you just want to get on with life and so you know even if they do drop the charges later because I mean and I'm glad he's going to go and sue for wrongful arrest I think and because these people need to be held accountable you cannot just go around doing this

nonstop at a whim oh, I'm going to arrest this person for a tweet and this person for speech because we don't like what they've said. Oh, and then it's okay because we're just going to drop the charges. No, it's a big problem and people are sick of it. Such a good point, Stephen Barrett,

because people don't realize that it's the lawfare and the consequences of the lawfare, not necessarily just the lawfare itself. Do you see what I mean? It's the financial consequences, the psychological consequences. the consequences to your relationships, to your families, to your friends.

And that's what lawfare is really about, not just what happens in court eventually. The process is the punishment. And when I was practicing, I had a lot of individual clients. I preferred to work for individuals rather than for large corporations. And so if we got to the end of a trial or the end of a legal process, perhaps we got a negotiated settlement, whatever. I always used to say just one line to my clients, which is that I hope you never see me again. Because seeing me means that something has gone terribly wrong in their life.

I know that being involved in litigation is incredibly emotionally draining. It's psychologically draining. But this is what we've become. We've become this slow-boiled communist country, and we all hate it, quite rightly. Why on earth was he arrested? Why on earth is he being hounded through the courts constantly? Graham Linnehan is a good and decent man. Right. Well, in criminal law, we have something called the public interest test.

How on earth is it in the public interest to waste our money hounding this good and decent man? It's obviously not, but what's happened is that slow-boiled communism has stolen our institutions. The entire college of policing is as woke as anything. And so all the chief constables, even like, I'm just going to say it, Dan, but the Chief Constable of West Midlands, I wouldn't trust him to tie his own shoelaces. But because he's woke, he gets to have his job. And because he's woke, he gets to have his ridiculous salary

and ridiculous pension. But he, you know, he's not only is he nasty, but he's also incompetent. And that's what communism is. It's nasty and it's incompetent. Indeed. At number four on our list, another woman who was subjected to the most shocking examples of law.

fair in 2025. But good Lord, she's more popular than ever. Katie Hopkins stepped forward, Lelani Dowding. They tried to cancel her before virtually anyone else. And it doesn't matter now. It doesn't matter now. Her live tour is extraordinarily successful. Batchit Bonkers Britain, her daily news show has more views than any mainstream media production of the headlines, Lelani. She's a lot. a force. Doesn't matter that she's not invited on the British Bashing Corporation or Wokai TV anymore. She's a force. She is a force and she's actually one of my favorite people and right behind me there is a card that she sent me that I absolutely cherish. I love

Katie Hopkins, you wouldn't believe. I went to try and buy tickets for her tour actually, local to me and they sold out and then I went down to see if there's any by my parents and they've sold out. So I'm just praying that some last minute, I think, date comes up because she has the ability to make you laugh through the toughest, toughest times. And, you know, I've got to say, I think she is the most amazing, lovely person. We've never met, like, we, you know, we've kind of bumped into each other and met very briefly. But I remember that one day I was really, really sad. And it was the first time I've ever been really visibly upset online or posted something.

And she sent me the nicest message. and she said, it's okay, we will. It actually makes me a bit emotional. She said, it's okay, we will win. And she is able to make you feel positive and hopeful. It actually makes me really emotional, saying this, when you're really, really down. And she has a really amazing ability to do that.

So my God, I can't believe I'm getting emotional about Katie Hopkins. I love her. I just think she's brilliant. Oh, this is beautiful, Stephen. Isn't it amazing? See. No, no, I love it because this is the impact she has on people and a lot of people don't see the good side of Katie Hopkins, Stephen. But she is always there for people at their lowest point. You know, she was writing to Lucy Connolly in prison. She was visiting Alex Belfield when everyone turned on him in prison. She was there for Joey Barton. When he was cancelled earlier this year, she understands that you've got to be there at those lowest dark moments. because she's been there, right? She has been there.

She didn't even know that she would get through it. And we're talking about a strong woman, Stephen. And she's fighting against these wee ditty men, these weak men and their communism, and the simple fact that we don't want to live like this. I mean, we don't all have to agree on anything. We can all agree to disagree, but there is a big difference between the decent

and the indecent in our society. And from everything I've seen about Katie Hopkins, I don't know her. She represents that rebellious streak of English eccentricity that will not comply with this weak, you know, slow-boil communism that discovers that if you cannot go through,

you will go around. And that's what we've all had to do. I mean, that's what you've had to do to an extent, Dan. If you cannot go through, if they will not accept you. And let's be perfectly honest, I'm probably blackballed from the BBC. You know, but if we cannot go through, we will go around and we will still get to people

because we are still decent and good and we have a message to share. And everything I've seen is, as again, as Lelani says, you know, accepted society, polite society in London, although I'm increasingly against it, would say that she's a monster, that she's evil, that she's some far right thing and therefore we can't be anywhere near her. Well, she seems basically decent to me. I don't see what is evil in her at all. And that's why these people will fail

because they're trying to convince us that people who are actually quite good, like J.K. Rowling, like Graham Linehan, are bad people. It's like, well, you're not going to win because that's not true. Okay, we're into the top three. This is hugely exciting

because we've had millions of votes over the course of the year. These are your top three greatest Britons. of 2025. And at number three, it was a man who was subjected to lawfare by his own political party. Reported to the police, thrust out for hurty words, Rupert Lowe, went on to launch, Restore Britain. And I am very excited, actually, because on Christmas Day, Lulani, he is delivering the first ever outspoken Christmas message. And good Lord, it's going to galvanise people. It really, really is. is, I think, a political force, Lelani.

And actually, it was the moment where a lot of people like me who had voted for a form UK, who had wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt, who had wanted the right to stay united, just said enough. Like, no, you can't be a free speech party and report your top performing MP

to the goddamn police for hurty words and an argument with Zia Yusuf. It was a red line. It was really bad, Dan. It was really bad. And, you know, as we've agreed many times, Rupert Lowe is one of my favorite politicians. And I do not generally like politicians at all.

But I love that he will say what he feels. He doesn't care. He doesn't care what anyone else thinks. Okay, so it crossed a couple of the party lines. He still didn't care. He was like, this is how I am. And I think, again, just like Mayor, authenticity, that's what comes across.

He's authentic. He's him. he's saying what he feels and I think that that appeals to a lot of people it certainly appeals to me I don't like you know like the games the creeping around

the saying things but it's okay because when we get into Powell we'll do something different I'm not into all of that I like to I guess I'm a straight shooter too and I like to be spoken to by somebody who is a straight shooter what do you make of Rupert Lowe

Stephen Barrett are you a fan Well, I don't think it's for me to favour or disfavour any politician because, again, I would rather build this coalition of the decent. And I would like everybody to come in. And I think Rupert Lowe is a natural member of the coalition of the decent. That I will say. The other thing I think is that we've lived through this weak age of slow-boiled communism, these wee, ditty, weak men. And they use passive aggression and they use shame-based control. That's all that they can do. So when they try and call people who are obviously not racist, racist, they do that because the person will feel shame. And then the person, once you feel shame, you're willing to go along with the person who

has shamed you, you're under their control, you'll do anything until they approve of you. And he, Rupert Lowe just rejects all of this nonsense. And I saw Kirstie Alsop a few days ago now try to publicly shame him on Twitter and it completely blew up in her face because Rupert just doesn't do that. we need these strong people who are just not willing to be controlled by these false allegations, not willing to be controlled by shame. I do think that the police behaved appallingly, whatever one thinks of reform. I do think that the police should not have sent officers to his house late at night.

I think it was like 3am or something absolutely grotesquely ridiculous. Confiscated his guns. To take away his lawfully owned farmer shotguns. Isn't that on Reform UK, though, because the problem is the police would say, well, we had this allegation of a death threat. No, don't let the wee, diddy, weak police get away with it. It's on them.

They acted. They did it. You know, we've got to get back to a situation of basic responsibility. You know, they cannot shirk their responsibility because they acted. They used their powers. They abused, in my mind, they abused their powers in order to do this. And they should be held responsible. I think he's over in Essex.

So, again, Essex's chief constable is on my list of Chief Constable's sack. But when we get through this... I know Essex needs to have a sound police force, don't know? It's crazy. Okay, this is great, though. This is very exciting. Do you have any idea at home who might be the greatest Britain of 2025? We've had millions and millions of votes from outspoken viewers over the course of the year?

put your thinking cap on, maybe things are going to become a little bit clearer when I reveal our runner up. And I think the runner up will surprise a lot of people, Stephen Barrett, because it's a conservative politician. And I'm talking Big C conservative. And he's the highest elected politician on the list. It's Robert Jenrick. Someone who many, many, people have said, has had a sort of damascene conversion and we don't trust him. But I think what it proves, Stephen, is that for much of the year, and certainly I guess in the latter weeks of the year, Kemi Badernock had a bit of a comeback as leader of the opposition and people say, oh, maybe she's not too bad. But you've got to think back, we're looking at the totality of

2025, Stephen. And there were real moments for Robert Generate across the course of the year. I mean, Do you remember, for example, when he collared the fare jumpers at the London tube stations? And all of a sudden, Sadiq Khan's TFL was forced to change its policy because lawlessness was just erupting in tube stations. And so for me, even though I know a lot of people say, oh, Dan, he's a Tory, we can never trust the Tories. He was part of that terrible government. For me, I like your idea of the Coalition of the Decence. and I honestly put Robert Jenrick in that category alongside Rupert Lowe, I do.

Well, he's an incredibly impressive politician and I think quite rightly for a conservative politician the year after probably the worst electoral defeat the Conservative Party has ever had to make number two on the list is a huge achievement. And it shows that what, because what Robert Jenrick has done is not one one-off thing.

Robert Jenrick has been dominating our headlines, dominating the narrative, moving the Overton window every day of the year. He's a relentless force. He doesn't seem to sleep. He seems to constantly work. And that is doing good for the country. Now, I am a right winger, if you like. I believe in competition.

And I think that Kemi Badenock has benefited from the fact that Robert Jenrick has done all of this. because she has, she has upped her game. She's made him better. Competition has made, she's massively improved in the year because of competition. And I genuinely think competition makes us all better. And so I just, and I don't mean that as any way insulting to Kimmy Wadnock either. Again, Coalition of the Decent. Yeah.

But I think we all need to start coming together. I've always backed Robert Jenerick as conservative leader. I don't think Kimmy Badenock has what it takes, even though she's had a. better end to the year. Lelan, I guess what's interesting to me about this is there's no Reform UK politician on this list. Nigel Farage isn't on the list, but Robert Jenrick is. What do you make of that? Yeah, I find it interesting. I was actually surprised to see him at number two, but, you know, what you've said is understandable. And I like Stephen's idea of a coalition, of the decent, and I definitely think he'd be in there. And I think he's been a

appealing, also to working people. You know, you mentioned the thing with the tubes and the fare jumpers, but also he's been out there, hasn't he, at the car boot sales where they are selling the tools, the stolen tools of, you know, decent everyday workmen. And that to me is one of the worst things that people can steal, the tools that the man needs, or woman, to go to work and go and earn money for his family and those thieves are taking that away and i think robert jenric has brought that to light um and and and he you know showed it quite a lot it's not it wasn't just a one-off but he's really showing it and so um you know i hope it goes further and i'd like to see more politicians kind of going out and doing this kind of thing actually because i

think again you know that was authentic he took time out he's not just sat there in the um in Westminster or in an office, he's actually gone out and taken a look for himself and shown people. And I hope, you know, other politicians can follow suit. Okay, but it is now time to reveal the greatest Britain of 2025 as chosen by our outspoken audience in your millions. Throughout 2025, week a lady, every vote throughout the year, every vote for our union jackasses, every vote for our worst Britain, but also every vote for our greatest Britain. He started the year in prison. He ended it as an activist who was able to bring millions of us into central London to unite the kingdom.

Lalani Dowding, Tommy Robinson, named the greatest Britain by outspoken viewers in 2025. that's going to be a decision that horrifies the elite class, that horrifies the mainstream media, that horrifies our politicians. Does it horrify you? No, I think it's great, and it will absolutely horrify them, no doubt, because he did unite the kingdom.

So many people turned up to his Unite the Kingdom rally that I think it put the fear of God up the Labour politicians' answers. Next thing, they started, you know, within a week or two weeks, they were talking about patriotism. Didn't they try and hold a British flag in Parliament or Westminster or something? You know, so to me, I think he has actually been able to unite people. People have also seen that he was subjected to lawfare. And what he went through in prison was absolutely horrifying for,

you know, again, shining light onto what he's been trying to tell people for years and years and years and years. And unfortunately, what we're actually seeing happen because we never took heed at the time he said it. I mean, I love this decision. Stephen, I really do. I think Tommy Robinson has been completely misrepresented by the deep state, by the political class, by the mainstream media. and it is actually the independent media that is proving that he's a force for good, not a force for ill. What do you make of the decision by the outspoken audience to make him the greatest Britain of 2025? Well, the first thing I'll say is that I am still connected to whatever people might call, you know, the centre of society. I don't want to call them the elites because they're quite clearly not.

And in many cases, I think that they are nasty and incompetent. But this will horrify them. Absolutely horrify them. He is beneath the pale. Not only is he beneath the pale, they have put all of their effort into demonising him. And so if they cannot demonize him, it shows how pathetically weak they are. If the public have, and you know, this is democracy, this is what the public think, and the public have rejected their attempts to demonise him.

Totally rejected them. Yeah. This is a complete rejection. If they had any sense, Dan, they'd sit down and reflect on that and change. I'm afraid I've started to call them the residence of New Versailles. And just so that listeners and viewers understand that, Versailles was the palace in France where the rich gathered before the revolution happened. And whilst the cries of the poor and the downtrodden were being ignored,

they just played the music louder until eventually they all, I'm terribly sad to say, got their heads chopped off. But the residents of New Versailles in our time, I hope they don't suffer the same fate. But they do need to reflect upon things. And this is an utter rejection of their worldview. As far as they were concerned, they have tarred and feathered him. They have damned him.

And therefore, they go, ha, ha, ha, over. Done. Job done. Well, you know, it's December 2025 and the public have voted him the greatest Britain of the year. Yeah, it hasn't worked. It hasn't worked. Your cancellation campaigns, elites no longer work. And I think that is something to celebrate. But, well, thank you, thank you.

What a fabulous superstar panel. Lelani Daldine, one of our outspoken originals, social commentator. Of course, you must follow her on X, where she is incredibly active. and Stephen Barrett, who is one of the country's top barristers and legal minds, but now also the author of a brilliant substack. Oh my God! You're lighting out of our lives. That is wonderful.

Merry Christmas. That is wonderful. Merry Christmas, Stephen. Yes, the author of the brilliant public gallery on Substack. My superstar panel, have a really Merry Christmas, both of you. Really enjoy it. Have a great time of your daughter. Stephen, and we will see you both in 2026, I hope. Thank you for being part of my Christmas.

Very Christmas to you both. Now, I've got to give you some programming notes about what we've got coming up over the next couple of days, because at 5 o'clock tomorrow UK time, very special edition of the show, which we're not broadcasting live, but you'll be able to get it as a premiere on YouTube. It is my discussion at CPAC Australia. with the former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss and one of our favourites, Connor Thominson, very relevant, of course, because of the Islamist terrorism in Australia in recent weeks. Then on Christmas Day, two very special episodes for you. At midday UK time, Lady Colin Campbell will be revealing her annual awards.

And then, at 5 o'clock, it is the big show, Rupert Lowe's Christmas Message, and then a Christian panel featuring Father Calvin Robinson, Minister Ricky Doolin, we've also got Bishop Diwa and Father Phil Harris with us as well. So two moments on Christmas Day to be with us because I know Christmas Day is a tough day for some of you. And I get that and we wanted to have these two special moments. So we'll be with you midday UK time for Lady Colin Campbell's awards. And then at 5 o'clock, as we reveal what I believe is going to become an outspoken tradition, our first outspoken Christmas message delivered by Rupert Lowe from his farm. Then on Friday, we return to normal circumstances.

We will be broadcasting live at 5pm UK time with Bernie Spofforth and Leo Curse, revealing the worst Brissons of 2025. I'm super excited. Leo Curse, one of my favorite people. He has been tied up in one of these exclusive contracts with GB News for some time, but he is now free from that, a force in the independent media. He will be making his outspoken debut on Friday. So even though things are going to look a little different over the next couple of weeks, we have a huge amount of outspoken content for you. I really look forward to being with you over the next two weeks. So we'll see you at 5 p.m. tomorrow for the special Christmas Eve edition of the show. Hit subscribe on YouTube, turn on the notification bell,

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