Dan Wootton Outspoken - TOMMY ROBINSON SPEAKS OUT AFTER CHARLIE KIRK WARNED OF DEATH OF UK BEFORE ASSASSINATION
Episode Date: September 11, 2025BREAKING TODAY: CHARLIE KIRK – A FUTURE AMERICAN PRESIDENT, HUSBAND AND FATHER – SHOT DEAD AT 31. But the Turning Point founder was also one of the greatest allies in the desire for a new English... revolution, with his final video posted just two hours before his assasination at a Utah university warning of the death of Britain. Tommy Robinson will join Dan for an exclusive interview reflecting on Charlie Kirk’s brutal murder. What does it mean for the fight for the right? And will it change his plans for the Uniting the Kingdom rally on Saturday? We’ll also be joined by Nick Tenconi and Jack Ross, the bosses of Charlie’s organisation Turning Point UK, who believe his shooting is a declaration of war. In his Digest, Dan will also reveal why the hard left and corrupt MSM have shown their true colours in the horrifying past 18 hours, which has rocked the right. Then we’ll get analysis from Rafe Haydel-Mankoo of the New Culture Forum. PLUS: Peter Mandelson finally sacked as US Ambassador over Jeffrey Epstein, just six days before Trump’s State Visit, but why his hiring by Slippery Starmer should now represent the end of our morally corrupt Prime Minister. He knew! AND: The Royal Family rocked as King Charles meets with Prince Harry. But we’ll reveal why the so-called reunion didn’t go as well as the duplicitous Duke hoped. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle’s fury as Netflix give full throttled backing to Victoria Beckham. Lady Colin Campbell joins us for all the royal latest. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken, episode number 312.
Charlie Kirk, a future American president, husband and father shot dead at 31.
And breaking right now, reports from Stephen Crowder suggest the cartridges found with the potential murder weapon near the shooting scene were end.
engraved with wording on them expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.
Horrifying yes, surprising no. We all knew that this was a political assassination.
But this is a very dark day in the United Kingdom too, as the Turning Point founder was also
one of the greatest allies in our need for a new English revolution with his final video
posted just two hours before his assassination at a Utah university, a warning about the death of
Britain. It's also the tradition that built the West. America is not America without England,
period. America is a transference of the best of England. And yes, we had a revolution.
But in some ways, we're still sister countries. And we brought English common law and separation
of powers and this idea of natural rights. We didn't just come out of that ex nihilo.
It is an inheritance that we derived from your country, from the Magna Carta to the Declaration
to the Constitution. Now, the other man in that interview, Tommy Robinson, is standing
by to join me for an exclusive interview reflecting on Charlie Kirk's brutal murder.
He's feeling very emotional today, but also very passionate.
And he's going to reveal what Kirk's killing means for the fight for the right
and whether it will change his plans for the massive Uniting the Kingdom Rally on Saturday.
So do stand by Tommy Robinson coming up exclusively very soon.
We're also exclusively joined today by Nick Tenconi and Jack Ross,
the bosses of Charlie's organization Turning Point UK.
They say that his murder is a declaration of war.
But in my digest next, I'll reveal why the hard left and corrupt MSM have also shown
their true colours over the horrifying past 18 hours.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
He did say that gun deaths were an acceptable side effect of gun rights.
falsehoods and conspiracy theories on issues,
including COVID-19, climate change, and the 2020 U.S. election.
Go to...
Now, the news is about to completely come to a halt,
and everybody's supposed to just pause and take a minute
because of one guy.
One guy.
You can imagine the administration using this as a justification for something.
He wasn't admired and loved by all.
They are despicable.
They are evil.
So many of them are actually mentally ill.
And we're going to have analysis coming up from Rafe Hidal-Manku of the New Culture Forum.
Also coming up on the show, two other major pieces of breaking news that we will, of course, cover.
Peter Mandelson finally sacked as U.S. ambassador over Jeffrey Epstein just six days before Donald Trump's state visit to the U.K.,
But I'm going to reveal why his hiring by Slippery Stama should now represent the end of our morally corrupt Prime Minister he knew.
And the royal family rocked as King Charles meets with Prince Harry.
But we're going to reveal why the so-called reunion didn't go as well as the duplicitous Duke hoped.
Then in the uncannceded aftershow on Substack, Lady Colin Campbell is with me, www.outoutspoken.
At the end of the show, we'll also reveal today's Greatest Britain and Union Jackass,
your nominees, Bush Reshake, nominated by Sarah Booth for her despicable reaction to the assassination
of Charlie Kirk. Prince Harry, nominated by Rose Junie, for turning up at the Well Child Awards
and making it all about his showmanship. But she says his performance was bordering on Nauseus.
And Joy Cheney, you just heard her there in that brief clip from the BBC.
nominated by C.J. Edmund, who says she is the BBC contributor who laughed at Charlie Kirk's death.
And she says she is the most disgusting jackass.
Let me know your reflections on Charlie Kirk as well in the live comments throughout the show.
I'll read some at the end today. So do stay with us.
Tommy Robinson and Turning Point UK both coming up,
exclusive interviews. But now, let's go.
Yes, America, lost a future president. Donald Trump lost one of his closest allies,
and the international independent media lost our leader. But as I sat frozen yesterday,
trying to just take in the news that Charlie Kirk had been assassinated in front of
students at a university, JFK style, simply for encouraging, healthy and non-violent debate.
I couldn't help but lament the fact that the UK has just lost a best friend.
Britain is in trouble. Charlie knew it.
And Charlie was one of the only people in the world brave enough to raise the alarm on the Islamist takeover of our disunited kingdom.
And he did so with no fear.
He cared what was going on here.
I mean, when he joined my campaign earlier this year to free Lucy Connolly,
I was so happy because it meant the world took note.
He loved Britain.
He loved Britain because he said that without us, there would be no America.
But he could see what was happening here and was so determined to be part of the fight back.
The only difference between what I do and what you do is in my country, my government can't put me in jail for making a movie.
I mean, they can put me in jail for other stuff, but we still have robust speech protections as it stands right now.
The current regime wants to change that.
I think that's a very important element as to why the UK has allowed this mass migration to happen without any sort of – there's been some opposition – there's opposition now, but not serious opposition.
because of the lack of ability of robust speech protection
it's also the tradition that built the west america is not america without
england period america
is a transference of the best of england
and yes we had a revolution but it in some ways we're still
sister countries and we brought english common law and separation of powers
and this idea of natural rights we didn't just come out of that ex nihilo it is a
it is an inheritance that we derived from your country
from the magna carta
the declaration to the constitution
And that's why Turning Point UK, his British organisation, will today right here and outspoken, declare the death of their leader as a declaration of war.
They can't win the argument democratically, this hard left mob.
So now they are taking patriots out one by one.
It is chilling.
And my heart broke last night as Megan Kelly announced the news, we all fared live with one of Charlie's early men.
towards Glenbeck.
What are we waiting for, like, the AP to say it?
We don't trust that more than we trust these.
They're reporting that Charlie has died.
That he's dead at the age of 31.
Which he would have to be if that video is real.
There's no way he survived that.
The only good thing is
It had to have happened quickly.
Right.
Right.
But tears soon turned to rage.
And Donald Trump, in a powerful emotional Oval Office address,
overnight UK time, made clear
that the left have blood on their hands.
And violence and murder are the tragic consequence of demonizing those with whom you disagree day after day, year after year, in the most hateful and despicable way possible.
For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals.
This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism.
that we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop right now.
And it was laughable with our free speech destroy a slippery stammer,
then trying to get on the act too, writing,
we must all be free to debate openly and freely without fear.
There can be no justification of political violence.
Are you kidding me?
As Restore Britain's Lewis Brackpool raged,
If Kirk was British, you would have locked him up.
Turning Point UK itself pointed out,
Your Deputy Prime Minister David Lammy described us and Charlie
as sinister forces and xenophobic.
Other Labour MPs have protested with violent far-left activists who attacked us.
The language your party and the wider left uses to describe people like Charlie and us
is the language that actually means we face.
Violence. Shame on you.
And Tommy Robinson raged,
Are you fucking for real?
You would have had him locked up for speaking the truth.
You coward, you wanker, Kirstama,
you have attempted to encourage violence against us.
Watch.
This wanker, these wankers have put targets on everyone.
Kirstama is responsible for the sort of shit that happens there.
Because he's put a target on every one of us
with his smears and lies for telling the truth.
Charlie Kirk told the truth.
If Charlie Kirk lived in the UK, Kirstarmer would lock him up.
How dare you make comments about his death?
When you're responsible for this shit, people with your mindset,
condemning people, putting targets on them, lying about them,
and then pretending you give a shit.
Absolute fucking hypocrisy.
Tommy is standing by right now.
I'm going to ask him much more about
that very shortly, so do stand by. But rather than look away, I actually think it's important
to lean in and look at the left's ghastly reaction to the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
After all, as we come on air today, Stephen Crowder is reporting that the cartridges found
with the potential murder weapon near the scene are all engraved with transgender and
anti-fascist ideology. That raises the stakes in this investigation.
especially as the killer, the likely domestic terrorist, is still on the loose.
As Piers Morgan said, seeing so many clips and posts of supposedly kind, tolerant liberals,
gleefully celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder, thus so utterly disgusting.
This is what we're dealing with.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
He did say that gun deaths were an acceptable side effect of gun rights.
But the MSM on both sides of the Atlantic was actually no better.
MSNBC suggested Charlie had been shot by a supporter
and then immediately pivoted to how Trump was going to try and use the shooting.
Because as we were just talking about a moment ago with Alan,
after one of the Doge employees was allegedly attacked in Washington, D.C.,
That's what Donald Trump used as a justification to send in federal troops into Washington, D.C.,
to get things under control, the carjacking situation.
He used that.
And I know it's hard to predict the future, Mark,
but you can imagine the administration using this as a justification for something.
I must admit, I'm at a loss to guess as to what happens next.
I'm at a loss at how sick and twisted you are.
But it got even worse.
TMZ stuff openly celebrated,
not realizing their bosses were broadcasting live in a next-door room.
If he's still on the loose because they want to find him.
So I would think that that's one of the main reasons they're holding this news conference.
So my guess is we're going to see an image of this guy possibly in the next 20 minutes.
The news conference is scheduled for 3 o'clock in Utah time,
which is 2 o'clock Pacific, 5 o'clock Eastern.
Janet, go to have somebody look at the Fox...
Trump just posted that he's been.
Trump just posted that Charlie Kirk is dead.
All right, so is this ready to pull the trigger?
When you get Trump, come in a second.
What did Trump say?
Yeah, what did Trump say?
Yeah, Trump just said he's dead.
Those disgusting chrins were literally whooping and hollering in Los Angeles.
Later, TMZ denied it, but I call bullshit.
The BBC's Democratic contributor, Joy Chennai,
knew that she was live on air when she laughed.
It is a really shocking moment, you know,
and I was thinking, you know,
I've never shared a Trump post in my life.
I will contemplate sharing this one.
But what I will say with a caveat,
he wasn't admired and loved by all.
So that's an exaggeration,
but the truth is it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Sorry, Matthew, go ahead.
It doesn't matter.
And the BBC presenter of that show blamed Trump.
That level of violence in political rhetoric, though, Matthew, does go all the way to the top, doesn't it?
I mean, some of what President Trump has said in the past, some of the things he's posted on his social media, you know, they fall into the category of what you're describing there.
Well, I mean, let's just be clear.
I mean, let's be very clear here.
You know, you brought up Donald Trump's rhetoric.
Donald Trump survived two assassination attempts.
At lunchtime today, they were still trying to pin this all on Trump.
Listen to the BBC presenter here.
That's been Trump's reaction there.
Reckless?
I'm not going to jump in like that.
I think the thing we need to take here is a man has lost his life.
We've got children that no longer have a father and a wife that no longer has a husband.
Wokey TV and sly news were no better.
Polarized American politics and the availability of guns has tonight claimed the life of one of President Trump's most prominent supporters.
And certainly he has been accused by critics of promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories on issues, including COVID-19, climate change and the 2020 U.S. election.
So I definitely do think that, definitely on the conservative side,
they are going to start blaming the LGBTQ community as well.
But I don't know how the other community feels about that.
But I do think that there is a possibility for a divide in America right now,
especially with this.
And he was known, as I was starting to say there,
for speaking about some of the conspiracy theories
surrounding things like COVID-19 or even the Trump election,
January 6th and so on.
You know, is that, you know, the influence he had
would that have drawn people to those views, do you think?
Oh, I definitely think so, yeah.
I mean, people were shouting USA, USA, Donald Trump in the beginning.
Yeah, people were really hyped up
and then cheering all kinds of political stuff in the beginning.
Yeah, especially considering that Utah is a primarily Republican state,
so everyone was really excited to come.
Unfortunately, the British left.
have shown that they are both mentally ill and evil and out to cause harm.
Look at this post from Instagram of Nadia Hussein.
Do you remember that the ex-BBC star who hosted the Bake-off?
Who actually, in Marking Charlie Kirk's death,
described him as a vocal Islamophobe and bigot who glorified violence.
His life, she says, was a platform for division and fear.
Fuck you.
This is the type of rhetoric that caused Charlie Kirk's death.
When are you going to get that through your head?
Carol Vorderman's best friend, Super Tansky, posted Magatwats and far-right flag shaggers
will believe mad conspiracies like Bill Gates' bumming 5G into people via vaccines,
but not the possibility that the billionaire dictator hijacking the White House
might stage an assassination attempt or kill people for political game.
That's one of his closest friends, you vile woman.
She went on.
Those subjected to hate crimes because of him also have families.
Three kids are dead in Colorado today because of gun laws and a president.
He helped to get elected.
Bush Rishake wrote,
I'll pray for Charlie Kirk as much as he prayed for Palestinians.
And at that point, I thought about one of Charlie Kirk's famous.
tweets, you learn a lot about someone in terms of how they react when someone else died.
Femiola Wally continued down a similar path, writing the same people have spent the last two years
telling us to treat the murder of 80,000 people in Gaza as an acceptable and justified loss
are about to get real precious about the sanctity of one human life.
Before making this even more deranged video, watch.
The same people who spent the last two years telling us to treat the murder of tens of thousands of innocent people in Gaza as an acceptable and justifiable loss are now about to get real precious about the sanctity of one human life.
Like, we're expected to just go about our lives knowing that our taxes are going towards the ending of the lives of tens of thousands of people.
Like, we're supposed to just carry on as normal.
But right now, the news is about to completely come to a halt and everybody's supposed to just pause and take a minute because of one guy.
one guy. One guy. Oh, and not just one guy. Um, this guy. Like a fraternity guy and a sorority girl
at 19 hooking up both five drinks in at 2 a.m. and all of a sudden she like removes consent.
Yeah, like that's a murky middle gray area. And excuse me, I say,
she removed consent, did she not? Okay, but again, the, if he continues to go onward with that
encounter, again, then he is, he is sexually assaulting her. Again, that's, that is such an unfair
categorization. Like, again, it's very case dependent. I think it's, I think it's worth it. I think it's
worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have
the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe. I repeat, these people are sick.
And the fact that Femiola Wally post those clips thinking in some ways that just
The murder of Charlie Kirk, I mean, I repeat, evil and mentally ill.
Now, at least on G.B. News, Bev Turner finally lost it in the most brilliant way,
with their left-wing panelist Nina Mishkoff, who she accused live on air of spreading hate towards people like her.
It's a fascinating exchange watch.
And I'm sorry, but it's a bit rich to hear Nina Mishkoff, who was one of the people who was the most bullying to me.
on TV, on national TV, who sat in a studio with me and demanded to know if I'd taken the COVID
vaccine. And the implication was that would make me a good or a bad person. Well, guess what?
That attitude is leading us to today where the entrenchment of views, where we are supposed to do away
with nuance, we'd do away with any sort of ability to have a conversation, to shake hands with
the person and say, I don't agree with you necessarily, but I still respect your opinion. That's
got flushed away in 2020. I was cancelled. I was censored. I was told I was a bad person. I
was going to kill grandma because of the position that I was taking. And so I'd like to hear
people like Nina Mishkoff just admit that at some stage during the last five years, they played a part
in the fact that we've got to the point now where free speech is considered dangerous because it
became, it has become left versus right. I never cast myself as left or right. I still
actually don't to this day. I see myself as very apolitical in terms of party allegiances.
But we've got to the point where people are literally being killed because of their views.
Okay, Bev, we'll obviously bring back Nina and speak to her after you've made a series of accusations
and comments towards, but while I've got you, I just on vaccines, for example.
or during the pandemic. What's your reaction to what Bev Turner has had to say tonight?
Well, I couldn't hear absolutely everything she said because the sound in the studio is not good.
But I remember exactly the incident. It was on the Jeremy Vine show.
And we were perfectly, there was no debate. It's a debate program.
I didn't cut down free speech. I merely inquired of her whether she had which vaccine she had.
And then asked her when she was talking about her views whether she was an epidemiologist.
or a virologist because she was making out as far as I can.
And this is awful that we should be discussing this when this is not the topic tonight.
And so therefore, I'm not going to say any more than that.
There was a plenty of discussion.
I am very surprised that Beverly has been unprofessional enough
to bring this up, to make this about her
and some slight from five years or so ago
and when she should be doing her job.
And I can only think it's perhaps the setting up
of GB News in America and she's overtired
and she needs a bit of a lie down in the darkened room
and let's leave us at that.
Okay, Nina.
Well, I think Bev Turner can fight for herself.
Mark Littlewoods, look.
Typical. Absolutely typical response.
When will the left,
including the left in the United Kingdom,
wake up to the reality
that their hate has consequences?
Van Jones attacked Charlie Kirk
on CNN one day before his death.
Hurt people, hurt people.
What happened was horrible, but it becomes an opportunity for people to jump on van wagons.
And then someone like Charlie Kirk, he should be ashamed of himself.
No one mentioned the word race, white, black or anything except him.
What people mention is the horror of what happened this young woman.
That prompted Charlie to dig up this old video.
Even the most liberal, well-intentioned white person has a virus in his or her brain.
that can be activated at an instant.
And so what you're seeing now is a curtain falling away.
And those of us who have been burdened by this every minute, every second of our entire lives
are fragile right now.
And as he wrote, that all white people have a virus in their brain is legitimately one of the
most racist things I've ever heard.
That is one of Charlie's final tweets.
he knew about the scourge of anti-white racism.
Of course, we do not know his killer yet.
It is chilling that he is on the loose.
But breaking right now, the FBI have in the past few moments released this image
of a man, a person of interest, wanted in connection
with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
And the suggestion is that the cartwrights,
The bullet cartridges may have been engraved with trans and Antifa propaganda.
Perhaps one of the most chilling things is that Charlie was so smart.
I think he knew what was coming.
He wrote recently,
assassination culture is spreading on the left.
48% of liberals say it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk.
55% said the same about Donald Trump.
In California, activists are naming ballot measures after Luigi Mangoni.
The left is being whipped into a violent frenzy.
Any setback whether losing an election or losing a court case justifies a maximally violent response.
This is the natural outgrowth of left-wing protest culture tolerating violence and mayhem for years on end.
The cowardice of local prosecutors and school officials has turned the left into a ticker.
time bomb. And trust me, that ticking time bomb exists here in the UK too. We're just this
week, Labour's John MacDonald, the former shadow chancellor, likened Nigel Farage, to Adolf Hitler
and called Reform UK a fascist organisation, prompting Kevin O'Sullivan to write memo to John
McDonald. Reflect on Charlie Kirk's assassination and ask yourself if it's wise to reduce political
debate to lightning those with whom you disagree to the Nazis. Your cliched rhetoric about
Reform UK was as juvenile as it was dangerous. Grow up, shame on you. And then Alex Phillips added
this direct challenge to Kirstama. In an open letter, dear Prime Minister, the age of vilification
and demonisation must end. You have stood at a lectern and used words that became actual
bullets. If you are human, with humanity, you will see how destructive this now is. Be a leader.
Signed to the people of the United Kingdom in fear and confusion. Now, during his last visit here,
just a couple of months ago, Charlie Kirk had powerfully warned about the state of Britain
and how we are now a conquered country. The UK, what's your perception of the UK right now?
I mean, as a country, and I'll get to the government, I mean, sadly, this place is a husk of its former self.
This place seems to get its mojo back.
And this is the place that split the atom and invented the steam engine and brought common law to the world.
And unfortunately, the perception amongst American conservatives is that this is increasingly a conquered country and that there is not a firm opposition to try to bring Britain back to greatness.
I hope that's reform.
We'll see what happens.
It certainly isn't labor and, you know, Kier Starmer and all the nonsense that he's doing in this country.
But look, I mean, we want this country to be great.
America is Britain obsessed.
And we talk about the royal family all the time.
If you come in with a British accent, we take you more seriously.
My friend Steve Hilton, who is an advisor to Cameron, is literally running for governor of California.
We love this country from afar, and we're really sad about what's happening to it and what has happened to it.
And I think that there's a potential political revolution that can happen in this country.
I know it because I've lived through several.
With reform, are you talking about?
I don't even know.
Yes, but like I hope so because I like Nigel, but I'm not here to tell you what to do politically.
I hate when foreigners come to America and say, vote for a Republican, I've Democrat.
Like, okay, calm down.
You don't live here.
All I can do is as an outsider, kind of like de Tocqueville coming to America.
I can tell you right now as an outsider who's seen themes and trends and patterns.
There is an explosion way to happen in this country.
There is mass repression, and here's why.
people are coming up to me quietly
me as an American who follow me
on social media Charlie I love what you're doing I wish
I could speak out against it there's so much
the silent majority is what we called
it in America yeah and President Trump
tapped into that and these are the muscular
class of London these are the people
that are building your hotels they're
driving your taxis are the ones that really
make London work and they are so
animated about how this country has been
run down the gutter
you got it Charlie Kirk
and we needed you
And that's why they took you out.
But Tommy Robinson is clear.
Uniting the Kingdom will go ahead as a million Brits will honour this hero on Saturday.
And now Tommy Robinson joins me.
Tommy Robinson, in July 2018, Charlie Kirk,
posted, Salit Kahn is trying to lecture the world on free speech while Tommy Robinson
is locked in a London prison for speaking his mind. He knew Tommy what was going on here
before virtually anyone else. You appeared on his show last year. Where were you when you
heard the news? I was sat at my mum's with Tyler Olivia, you know, the American YouTuber. I was
sat doing an interview and I was looking at my phone and it popped up Charlie Kirk shot
and I said Charlie Cox just been shot and then obviously we were waiting to see and then
I saw the video and then I think as soon as I saw the video we knew he'd be dead when you saw
the video and what do you think in that moment what did I think I'll be honest I'll be totally
honest with you I fought my kids because I knew what they're going to think and as soon as I
then looked down on my phone.
I saw my children's names all popping up
because I knew that, I don't know,
recently when I was in prison,
Sawa Mamika was executed in an assassination in Sweden
and I'd made a video called Save Salat
where I travelled out to speak to him
because I knew who was going to be assassinated
and I knew that the government's
and no one was taking it seriously
all trying to protect him
and I knew when I rang home,
my ex-wife told me that my son has not stopped growing
and my children are scared
because they've just seen him executed and assassinated.
so I'll make it selfishly when I saw what happened to Charlie I just knew what my kids would be
thinking they'll be thinking that could happen to their dad and Tommy do you feel that
do you feel that this is a new era of political violence where voices are now just being taken
out via assassination no it's not new this has been coming for a long time it's encouraged by
government, it's encouraged by NGOs, it's encouraged by far-left organisations who lie, smear and
label. And to see Keir Stama sit and put out some groveling statement on his social media,
if Charlie Kirk lived in the UK, he'd be in prison. If Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk would be
one of the men that Keir-Stama put a target on, calling him far right, calling him racist,
calling him extreme, calling him Islamophobe. That's who, that's who Keir-Stama is.
Charlie Kirk, I think only now we're about to realise the legacy this man's about to leave.
We're only going to see he was probably one of the greatest that's ever lived.
when you listen to him, the influence he had, the peace that he bought.
He would sit down and debate in the most professional fashion with anyone.
He talked to everyone, and he was lovely and kind, and there was nothing that he had.
Like with me, I've led street protest movements, I've challenged Islam, I've confronted it head on.
Charlie just held debates.
He held debates, but I think because of his level of influence,
and I'm grateful because he has stood up for me when I look through the things he said for me.
I'd think now
if I was telling people
because I've just sat down
with a podcast host
who said that it made him think
because he was meant to have a college debate
you see the legacy
that Charlie talked about
and will leave
and he spoke about courage
and he spoke about
having courage even when you're fearful
now anyone
who's sitting thinking now
that they shouldn't host a debate
that they shouldn't go to a college
that they shouldn't speak out
that they shouldn't go to a protest
that will dampen
and darken the legacy the man leaves.
What you now need to do is stand up.
Now is the moment to stand up.
Now is the moment to exercise your free speech.
Now is the moment to speak truth to power.
Now is that moment.
It's not a moment where you back down.
It's not, my messages are in and dated.
Absolutely inundated here.
With people telling me to be careful, be careful.
What about Saturday?
Maybe don't go.
Maybe this.
That is the total wrong message.
The moment now it is to go.
There's more people now need to come out.
freedom of speech is not just a political right
it's a biblical right and it's based
and it's principled in truth, responsibility
and courage and that is the courage
that Charlie Kirk spoke about
let him and his life be
an inspiration to bring
courage and you see when he spoke about faith
and how he wants to be remembered, let it bring
people to Christianity, let it make people
search for the truth, let it make
his life and I'm just, I'm watching
and looking at the videos of his
wife and his children
and the attack on this and the
encouragement and you know now we're seeing people celebrate his death and then we're seeing the
democrats i'm seeing them boo and refuse to to recognize and pay and pay some respect what you're
going to witness this saturday is a million people going to pay respect and gratitude to charlie kirk
and to america to all of them we all make sure that his death and his life is honored in london
on saturday i just don't really think i think for us all to take it in and see that a target was put on
Charlie Kirk and a target is put on all of us and it's put on us by governments is put on us
by media where what they do is they radicalise the public into thinking where the person that may
have killed him we will soon to find out I guess and hopefully find out but the people who attack us
the people who threaten us a lot of the time they think they're making the world a better place
and they're doing that because they've been their targets have been put on all of us
justifications dehumanising there is and they've been allowed to do it you know like
We sit here.
I was the platform
from YouTube.
Jihadists have got YouTube.
I'm taking off of social media.
The Muslim Brotherhood
have got a Facebook account.
It's like the unfair playing field
where one side
encourages political violence
and police don't enforce laws,
they sit back and they allow it to happen,
the attacks on Republican figures,
on commentators,
but I think now what I'd say to anyone,
if you're scared,
do not let his death be for
nothing, because he demanded and encouraged courage. He demanded and encouraged people to stand up and
speak the truth, regardless of consequence, regardless of consequence. And the worst thing we could
be thinking right now is, I'm not going to go because I'm scared. That leaves no legacy. His legacy
is that he, that hopefully inspires people to stand up, to speak, to show courage. And I just think
that um look and i understand the fear i sat there last night thinking about all of this as it was
coming through thinking about what it's like for his children who stood there and watched him bleed out
and what's it's like for his family his wife what must it have been like from to see that
and then obviously again selfishly what it may be like for my mum now worrying about this what it's
probably like for lots of people's mothers for their families for their kids but i just know that
now is not the time now is the moment now has to be the turning point
Now has to be the time when you do stand up, when you don't back down, when if you've been
worried and you've been fearful, you get up and you go, you go to London, you attend the
demonstration, you continue to debate, you continue speaking out.
Don't otherwise, you see what they've done?
This attempt, continued attempts, is to put fear into you, is to silence you, is to prevent
you speaking.
You don't let them be successful in there.
Don't let this barbarian and this murdering bastard who shot an innocent man dead in front
of his family don't let them win and you will let them win if you stop speaking you will let them
win if you decide not to go there in case this happens that's not how we live that's not how we live
and it's not how we can allow ourselves to live to live in fear it doesn't mean not going to be
scared i just think that i just think only now we will realize what a great he was only now
Absolutely. And Tommy, he understood what was going on in the United Kingdom. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but his last live stream, which was broadcast on his ex account.
Islam is going to be used. Islam is going to be used. Is that it? Islam is going to be used by the left. And it was headlined the death of Britain. So he was acutely aware, especially when it came to Islam, of what was going on here. Of course he was an American.
Patriot, but he cared so much about what he saw happening in the United Kingdom too.
Dan, do you know how happy I was when I saw him talk about the problems, but to warn America
that we've got to stop it, because I thought at least there's someone so pivotal, so influential,
so recognised and so respected by Trump, by all of them, who gets it, who's not backing down,
who's warning them now before it's too late. They have to stop it.
who we're going to find out who was behind it
but I think that he carried such weight
and such influence. You have to understand
that everything that's happened to America, everything that's
happened in Britain has been planned.
There are mass corporations, global
powers that have spent
billions and billions and billions
and decades and decades
to get our countries into the state they're in.
And he held influence
and he was awakening people. Obviously
look, I think that we are. I think that a million
people we will have the biggest protest
in our country's history is coming this Saturday.
where we stand for truth, where we stand against these things,
and we will stand on the Charlie Kirk,
because the influence he's had,
but most importantly, we can't allow them to be successful.
You can't allow that killer to be successful.
You have to stand and do the total opposite to what his motives were.
His motives was to instill fear, terrorise the public into silence
on these most important issues of our generation.
Tommy, there is a bit of an irony, though, don't you?
think, seeing the UK right unite over Charlie Kirk, which is obviously a very good thing,
but these are people who consider you, persona on Gras, who consider you as someone who cannot
be discussed in polite society, who must remain cancelled. Yet your message is hand in glove
with what Charlie Kirk was saying. And Charlie Kirk wasn't one of the people who wanted me
cancelled. He stood up for me, spoke up for me time
and time again. When I was in prison
he used his platform. Do you know what?
I was in prison and I respect Charlie Kirk and looked
up to him and admire him, yeah?
And I watched, I think he was one of the most influential
people and getting Trump elected. He was. So
up there with changing young men
to vote. And when I rang my
son and he played me a recording
of Charlie being interviewed whilst I was in prison
and Charlie was demanding that the American
establishment
sanction even
the British to make sure that
freed and it was a that was a moment for me to sit and listen to someone of such
influence speaking up on my behalf it was a great feeling and I'm very grateful to
Charlie for that for stepping up and speaking out and defending not just me
that defending all of us in Britain's free speech to defending the attack on our country
and witnessing and understanding what's happened and I know when he just come to
Britain recently he went home and spoke to America about really they need to
understand how lucky they are to have the constitute to have the free speech so
and he spoke about the Islam takeover of
of the United Kingdom without the fear
that so many people have in the United Kingdom,
worrying, are we gonna be locked up?
And he was, he would have been pivotal
and he was pivotal in starting to warn America.
And who knows the motive or the reason at the minute?
It's a political assassination.
It's a kill shot.
It's the same as what they would have done to Donald Trump.
Who knows the lengths or the powers
that have organized,
this or been behind this. Who knows if we'll ever know? But I think now, now has to be a
turning point. It has to be because they're put targets on all of us. So they don't have
to kill us. They don't have to attack, kill us. I'll get an attacked in St. Pancras train station,
not because of the things I've said, not because of anything I've done, is because of what the
government and the media have said. It's because of people like Camilla Tomlinson.
Camilla Tomlinson put a target on me. She lied on her show and put a target on me. Nigel Farage,
This is people from the right who are uniting over what's happening to Charlie Kirk.
Nigel Fland has continually put a target on me with false allegations and lies and smears.
Just blatant lies.
So these people, that's what's happened.
Julie Hartley Brewer has put a target on me.
I've got a target on me because of right-wing commentators who apparently are horrified
by what's happened to Charlie Kirk.
But they need to realise that those and those lies and smears and those false allegations
are putting targets on people.
I wouldn't mind if people come up to me and confront me over something I've said or done.
But when they're confronted me over things that,
I haven't said or done, yet media personalities on the social right.
You should be allies.
I mean, Camilla Tominate, unless she's been in touch with you, and I don't know about this,
as far as I'm aware, still hasn't apologized for going on national TV and calling you a white supremacist.
She hasn't, and see if she did, I'd accept the apology.
And if she needs to, I'm sorry, she needs to.
And if she had been lied to, and if she believed the smears in the media, I've sat down recently with
a few podcast guests, big ones, who have, who have apologised.
Trigonometry.
I did say these things about you because I did believe the media.
So, and I get it, if you were lied to and you believe the media, but to use your daytime platform
TV show to millions of people and make such, such accusations that hold no truth.
And then to know then that they hold no truth, but to still not apologize or correct your
lies.
For example, Nigel Farage telling people, I've got convictions of violence against women, telling
in the whole country that I beat women.
There's no truth in that. It's a total lie.
You made it up. It's a total lie.
You made it up. And you have said that
to people who may wish
to confront me when they see me in the street
because they believe I beat women.
What's worse than beating a woman other than being a paedophile?
And that is what Nigel Farage,
the leader, probably in the next prime minister
of Great Britain, has put on me.
So of course, when people see why do you keep getting upset,
I'm upset by that. I'm upset by the fact
that my children had to go to school the next day
and my wife had to brief them on the fact
that people may think their dads are violent against women
because of what Nigel Farge has said
and people need to understand if you've said something that's wrong
own it and stop justifying it
and stop encouraging because what that does
whether you accept it or not
by making false allegations against people
as racist as any of these labels
you are justifying violence against them
by radicalised people
whether it be on the left or on the right is bullshit and it's lies
So I think that we're going off of now
and talking about things that I shouldn't
I think we need to look at Charlie Kirk's life
We need to respect
And respect and honour him
And the way for us to honour Charlie Kirk
Is to speak and speak more
And show more courage
And show more more defiance
Not be weak
Do not change your plans
In what you were doing
I'm not changing my plan
There's no way I'm changing my plan
Brilliant
And that's what everyone
I should do
Absolutely we will remember
Charlie Kirk on Saturday. Tommy, we'll speak more about Uniting the Kingdom and the plans for that
on tomorrow's show. But right now, I want to bring in the heads of Turning Point UK.
Nick Tenconi, Jack Ross, the driving force behind Charlie Kirk's UK arm of Turning Point.
condolences on what is a terrible day
for the world. You write
they killed him
because they couldn't debate him.
Nick, you're overseas.
How did you get this news?
Well, we've just finished being on tour
in northern France
and it's been an incredibly
hectic and very
important mission over the last three, four days, which involves barely any sleep and doing
what we set out to do, which was to patrol the borders of Northern France in Calais, etc.
And as we were leaving France yesterday, ready to go and make our entry back into Britain,
the news broke. And to be honest, to be down, we're still in shock.
Charlie was loved, admired and respected across the world as not only an incredible debater,
very talented and well-versed debater, but to lead the charge against far-left totalitarian
propaganda, the very far-left totalitarian propaganda, which has been used by insidious
actors, agents, Marxist educators, unhinged, lefties.
those with hatred in their heart to weaponise these individuals, be they liberal, as they start
out, moving forward to socialism, to full-blown communists. It is far-left totalitarian propaganda
that is their weapon. That is to silence. That is to demonise. That is to denigrate anyone
who opposes them. And they are continually ramping up their rhetoric to mainly to produce two
things. One, create the amount of emotion and hatred that is required for far left domestic
terrorism and to, in the case of Charlie Kirk God rest of soul, start martyring those on the
common sense conservative rights by a way of direct action now as murdering. An innocent man
who was nonviolent, he was a family man, 31 years old is absolutely nothing. He's just getting
started in life and he's got two small children and to be brutally murdered in the way that he
has been has sent ripples throughout the Conservative right, common sense movement and we genuinely
still are in shock. We're devastated and our thoughts and prayers are with Charlie's family. It's
absolutely devastating what's happened. Jack, in your tribute, you posted to Charlie, you revived Christianity
and shaped our politics for the better Charlie,
a true patriot family man and hero, now a martyr.
But Jack, he was also incredibly important
for the fight that we have going on here in the United Kingdom.
And it gave me chills that his final broadcast,
which was simulcast on his ex-account just hours
before his assassination,
was headlined in part.
heart, the death of Britain. He knew what we are facing here better than most people in this
country. Definitely. That's what always really impressed me about Charlie is the fact he could
debate on any topic. He was an incredibly intelligent man. I still to this day, don't know how he
did it, but you could ask him anything and he'd always have an answer and he'd always have quite a reasonable
position, be willing to talk and have that respectful debate. And that's why it's so chilling
what happened because Charlie was a really nice man. He was a really nice politician. When he'd
debate left-wingers on campus, he'd ask the crowd to be polite to them. He'd always try and tear
up with pleas and thank yous and be good to them and respect them as a debating opponent.
So the fact that he's been killed, he's been murdered, it's left us.
left us horrified. We're struggling to process it over here because he was a man who pushed
peace, he pushed Christian values and respectful debates. And as we've put out there, they couldn't
debate him so they killed him. They didn't like he was having these conversations. He didn't
like he was making more people politically aware, putting politics in a more accessible format
for people, bringing young people away from hard left ideals and educating them.
about different political perspectives.
It's no coincidence that a week after he was named
the most influential man in US politics,
when he was promoted on South Park, he's been assassinated.
I do have to ask you, Nick, about this post
from the UK Prime Minister Slippery Stama last night,
which, let's be honest, has outraged many of us.
Because within his tribute to Charlie Kerr,
he wrote, we must all be free to debate openly and freely without fear.
There can be no justification for political violence.
But as Turning Point UK, as you have quite rightly pointed out on your ex-account,
the man who Stama has just appointed to be the Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom,
utterly slammed Turning Point UK.
He described your organisation,
as evidence that sinister forces are taking hold of our country,
describing you as xenophobic.
So it feels like these are crocodile tears now from Stama, does it not?
Absolutely.
We were, in terms of the timeline last night,
obviously we're still in shop,
but it was seismic, the impact that it had on us
as people who carried Charlie's torch in the UK.
and debated both liberals, those liberal-minded and far-left extremists on campus.
We've been spat at, we've been attacked, I've been smashed over the head
before Jack's been attacked and spat at, people coming in with sharp objects countless times.
This insane mindset, and I will involve liberal mindsets in this,
because behind every socialist, there's a liberal, behind every communist, there's a socialist.
this evil rhetoric and crocodile tears from our political leaders.
It's painful to even say that.
It just makes things, it adds and compounds to the shock,
total outrage and disgust.
The rhetoric that the left use in ministerial positions and backbenchers
is completely denigrating and demonising of those on the right,
the patriotic Christian nationalist right who stand for common sense and freedom of speech
ever since the radical trans lobby tried to have their way which as a movement began in earnest
somehow circa 10 years ago for example that was the final line for people that observe the
ideology of conservatism and the faith of Christianity. Man is man and woman is woman
there are two sexes and that you can't interfere with that.
So that is the line that was drawn and the left labour included, the greens, the yellows,
they've all forced this narrative to say that actually if you are conservative and you are peaceful
and you want to debate and you want to put logic and facts to the front away from emotion
and psychological warfare, totalitarian propaganda and emotional nonsense,
which is what the left thrive off of and the hatred, then you are therefore a Nazi.
This rhetoric has been normalized and it's been weaponized in the hearts of the bleeding
heart liberals, the toxic socialists and the murderous terrorists that are the communists.
God forbid, Starrma actually ever called out communism.
If you listen to Donald Trump's four and a half minute homage to Charlie Kirk,
he mentions far left extremism more than once.
and that he's going to declare a war on it.
And thanks be to God as well.
So yes, Dan, Stama has just added fuel to the fire by being so disingenuous.
And what he should be doing is the right thing, which is to notify the British public,
the far-left extremism, and Islamism remains the number one threat to national security in Britain
in 2025 still.
And I'll tell you...
Sorry, you go.
Well, actually, just before you do know, because I was just going to say it's not going to happen
because one of his MPs, John McDonnell this week,
compared Nigel Farage and Reform UK to the Nazis.
So this is now their playbook.
He's still in the party.
I'll tell you, the worst part about the David Lammy xenophobic comment.
I remember I was on the launch of Turning Point UK in late 2018, early 2019.
And this comment calling us xenophobic,
we were lambasted as racist and far right.
we hadn't even tweeted anything in the UK.
We hadn't released a single statement.
So they were branding us before we even made a comment on British politics.
And this is what the left do.
They aren't interested in debate.
That's why Charlie's dead because they don't want to debate us.
They want to label us.
They want to shut us down.
They want to silence us.
And it looks like now if they can't silence us, they'll kill us.
Well, yes, because you have described these people, Jack, as evil.
And this is just one example.
And sadly, there are thousands.
But this was posted the day before Charlie's visit to the Utah campus.
Someone called Omar writing, Charlie Kirk is coming to my college tomorrow.
I really hope someone evaporates him literally.
The reply, let's just say something big will happen tomorrow.
And this is all over.
Social media, Jack.
The be kind left, who left.
Elon Musk's ex platform because they argued that the debate was too toxic, which actually
meant that they didn't want there to be free speech, have been throwing a party over this.
I mean, I completely endorse Turning Point UK using the word evil, because Jack, what we have
seen over the past 24 hours is the definition of evil.
the mindset you have to have with the left as well and this is why we have to shift our focus to looking at the far left as extremists because historically as conservatives we think they're wrong we think they're silly university students but they genuinely believe we're Nazis they believe we're fascists they believe we're evil and that justifies it so they're celebrating the fact that charlie was assassinated because they see it as a victory they see it as the equivalent of say hitler being shot and it's not just um
I think the worrying thing is it's not just that they call us these slurs,
but those at the top who orchestrate these attacks on conservatives,
they know that they're brainwashing their far-left thugs into actually believing that these people,
people like Charlie are Nazis, which is laughable.
Charlie's done immense work actually shutting down the far right in America.
But it's happening here too.
And Nick Tenconi, I have to say there is an irony.
And obviously I think it's brilliant that all of the...
the right have united over the past day to pay tribute to Charlie Kirk. Of course, that is
brilliant. But there is an irony there because a lot of the things that Charlie said were the
same things that you've been cancelled for, that I've been cancelled for that Tommy Robinson
has been cancelled for. And I mean, if you look at Charlie Kirk and Tommy Robinson, for example,
he was posting on what was then Twitter tweeting in 2018 about the irony of Sadiq Khan talking about free speech when Tommy Robinson was languishing behind bars in prison.
So this idea that the mainstream right in the United Kingdom was on a wavelength with Charlie Kirk, I think is actually very wrong.
He was ahead of where they were at.
and certainly when it came to the cancellation of Tommy Robinson,
he understood before most people did.
Well, certainly what we've seen now with the attempted assassination
and this is what it comes down to of President Trump last year
and now with the murdering of Charlie Kirk is a declaration of war.
It's an all-out escalation.
Jack's point is actually spot on, and I'd like to echo it.
These individuals on the left think that they are killing Nazis.
They genuinely, no matter what work we do on the right to highlight the dangers and toxicity of far-right ideology,
far-right behaviour, far-right grooming, it doesn't matter.
Charlie's is a very reasonable, open-minded and fair man.
So it's an enormous escalation, and it hasn't just started yesterday, God rest his soul.
It started with the attack on President Trump as well.
So we are now re-evaluating and reviewing everything that needs to happen to protect ourselves more so
and also to continue the work with Gusto of Charlie Kirk, God rest his soul, on the university campuses.
Aristotle said that courage is the greatest virtue
and courage is a central tenet of our faith,
which is Christianity as well.
So now it's about turning our heads to what happens next
on university campuses,
standing up for the fact that Charlie Kirk has now been martyed
and understanding that the mainstream media,
going back to the 2018 comment down,
the mainstream media on our friends
for so very long our opponents
and enemies have gone unopposed in so many ways and they are emboldened and enabled by
tremendous funding and tremendous support and a very warped bizarre mindset, which is constantly
enabled by law enforcement, again, calling out individuals like Sadiq Khan, politicians, leaders.
That's why Jack and I do what we do alongside Nigel Farage, like Tommy Robinson, etc.
We are all united right now on the right. And our message is clear.
Charlie will not be the last martyr, and thanks be to God, I'm sure he's in heaven right now,
and we will continue to carry the torch, standing up to the establishment, the deep state,
the mainstream media, those who have murderous intent, be they illegal invaders,
be they unhinged lefties, this only serves to emboldened and to empower us to stand up to our enemies.
But this is an escalation, and as Jack has rightly said, this is evil, and it is an act of war also.
it absolutely is so jack obviously security and safety is most important i also listen to nick's words
there and i think just imagine if the uk was able to properly unite on the right imagine if this
was the event actually that was able to make it happen it would be so powerful
and i know it's early days for you but we're too now for turning point uk without
Charlie Kirk, without your founder?
Well, Charlie's certainly left a hole in both our politics and politics in America.
But we're not going to let this stop us. This is what terrorists want. They want us to be intimidated.
They want us to stop. If anything, this has this has awoken something both here and in the States because Charlie was such a good man.
He was not an extremist. He was, you know, a common sense, conservative, and they've done this to him. So for us, we're not backing down. We're not going to hide away. We're not going to pause our activism. In fact, we're already discussing, renewing our university activism. Because we pulled it before because it was too dangerous, because we would be attacked by masked Antifa and the police would do nothing to protect us. But actually, we can't, can't let them win. We can't let them bully us off of campuses. It's time for us to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to,
take what Charlie's done, hold the torch he's given us and run with it.
Nick, a final word to you.
I want to just say that this is tough, Dan, I'm not going to lie to you.
This is really tough.
Charlie was 31 years old.
It's literally nothing.
Two small girls and a loving, devout wife.
So I am filled with rage over this.
Charlie was huge. His voice, his profile. As Jack mentioned, there's been a huge blowing up of Charlie's
profile more so because of the South Park clip and because of debating on a podcast recently
where he takes on people individually, etc. He has grown bigger and bigger very rapidly
in the near just recent future. And the people that want us dead, Charlie,
God rest of salt, me, Jack, you, Tommy O'Brienson, Deep State, Communists, Islamists, the people that want us dead.
I have a very clear message, and well, Jack and I both have a very clear message as politicians and as activists as well, is that a shot at Charlie Kirk is a shot at all of us, and it is a declaration of war, and there will be consequences for that behaviour.
And we should really explore with gusto getting back on the university campuses to stand up.
Now is even more important a time to be standing up for conservative voices on the university campuses.
And I just want to say once again that our thoughts and prayers are with Erica and Charlie's family as well.
And may God have mercy on his soul.
Nick Tenconi, Jack Ross of Turning Point UK, more reason than ever to support Turning Point UK today. Thank you both so much.
So let's try and make sense of this all now. No one better to do that with than the historian and broadcaster, senior fellow at the New Culture Forum, also behind his own YouTube channel, Rafe Hadle Man.
Hanku. Raif, you've obviously heard the emotion there. I mean, two guys whose boss was Charlie Kirk. And what
bravery from them to say, actually, we previously pulled our university events. But because we don't want to
show the hard left that they've won, we're going to go back to the university campuses. It very
much echoes what Tommy Robinson was telling me near at the top of the show.
We cannot let these people win.
But when you look at what's been happening today, Rave,
the picture released by the FBI of this suspect since we've been on air,
the revelation from Stephen Crowder that the gun cartridges discovered near the scene
were inscribed with trans and anti-fascist ideology,
it's very hard not to believe that there is now not a targeted
campaign against those of us on the right?
Yeah, absolutely.
And, you know, I'm full of admiration for those people, like Turning Point and others
who aren't going to be cowed by this, who do understand that freedom and liberty are
worthless and meaningless if you're not prepared to stand up for them.
And for them to actually so willingly commit to that just hours after the death of their
founder, I think, deserves our applauded. Because you are quite right. We are in a state now where
we will no longer be lectured to by the left, as they have done for a decade or more, that it's
from the right that political violence comes. And no more should we ever allow the media class,
the left, academia to get away with denouncing decent, well-meaning people in Britain and America
as far-right thugs
because we know where those thugs are,
they're firmly on the left.
That's not to say that there's no violence
coming from the right,
but if you look particularly in America
and what's happened in the last few years,
I'm afraid the vast majority of the violence
has come from the right.
I mean, we've had the assassination attempts
on President Trump.
We had the murder, you remember,
of Ben Thompson, the Medicare healthcare CEO
who was allegedly murdered by the suspect
And what about David Amos in this country?
But in 2017, we had the House Majority Leader in America.
Stephen Scalese was shot as well by a Bernie Sanders supporter.
We had the Israeli embassy in Washington.
Two employees were murdered by a man who was shouting free, free Palestine.
And now you have Charlie Kirk added to that list in America.
And yes, of course, you have examples over here as well.
And the irony of course, the fascist.
are the anti-fascists. Antifa are the fascists. They are the danger. And it's, of course,
they are being aided and abetted by the media, by the political class in this country as well,
by people like our new deputy prime minister, David Lammy, who called the Brexiteers Nazis,
literally on stage, called them Nazis. When you tell people that the MAGA movement,
that the reform movement,
that those people who want to control immigration
are like Nazis or are literal Nazis.
When you equate our leaders with Hitler,
is it any surprise that the dim, the confused,
the ideologues on the left will be taken in by that
and think the very worst of us?
And all of the polling shows internationally
in the Anglosphere
that the left have a visceral hatred
and animosity towards,
the right that isn't shared the other way.
You never hear anyone going around saying
Labor scum or liberal dem scum,
but how often do you hear Tory scum?
We are the decent people.
That is the reality.
We have to start saying that.
And I also like the honesty of people from the right,
rave, who are actually saying,
this has rocked me, this has terrified me.
The most high profile, Jeremy Clarkson,
one of the most famous men in the country,
Some people hope he could be our Donald Trump, who posted after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, for the first time in my life, I'm genuinely frightened about being a newspaper columnist.
Carl Benjamin of Lotus Eaters replied, now that's another tough man, right? These are tough men.
We're all afraid because our opponents are insane. It's chilling.
They're insane. And they think that we are.
evil. This is the distinction. Me, myself, the comments that I've made about immigration, my
fight against Islamic extremism and so forth, we all now have to think and wonder about where
this leaves us in this situation. Thankfully, Britain is still a far more peaceful country than
America. You know, we talk often about civil war, and in the hours following the death of
Charlie Kirk, many people on the right have said we are now in a state of war. And of course,
famously we've had, I'm sure you've had on your channel, David Betts, talking about the potential
for civil war. The civil war does not mean an American civil war where you have literally
tanks in the street fighting each other. What they're talking about here, what we're really
talking about is the implementation of sectarianism, like we had in Northern Ireland, of two
vehemently opposed groups with the British Army or the American Army in between. And I think
things like Charlie Curtis assassination show us what form that will take. It's not,
not that dissimilar to what we saw between the IRA and the loyalists in Northern Ireland,
where you had Protestants and Catholics assassinating each other,
terrorist activity, and the army called in to try to bring peace and separate the two.
And I fear it's that sort of civil disobedience.
It's that sort of retreat into our echo chambers where we are at risk of going to a head.
And it's going to be the decent people of Britain, stuck in the middle as you have
and increasingly reactive far right in this country,
I think will emerge to defend this nation
against the combined forces of Islamism
and these far-left-woke ideologues.
Yes, and Rafe,
what is so upsetting to me about the loss of Charlie Kirk
is that he was such an ally to our United Kingdom
and he cared.
Yes, he was the ultimate patriotic American.
I really do believe he would have.
he would have been US president one day.
So of course it is such a great loss
and I'm not trying to compare the loss
that the US feels to the loss that we feel,
but he really cared about the United Kingdom.
He knew about our decline
and he knew how important the revolution
that is hopefully coming to the United Kingdom was going to be.
I just wanted to pay tribute to Charlie Kirk today, Rave,
by showing the opening of his incredible
address to the Oxford Union, his last visit this would have been to the United Kingdom.
It's great to be here tonight. Thank you to the Oxford Union for inviting me.
I never went to university. I take that as a great compliment. So therefore, everyone who went to
university should be able to run circles around me. You'll be the judge, but I'll do my best.
Has Donald Trump gone too far?
Well, I can nitpick at how vague that question is.
What is too far exactly?
Are his tweets too long?
Can all of us even agree on what we're aiming at?
I don't think so.
The truth is this.
If you dislike the West and if you hate the West's values,
if you think the West is evil fundamentally and deserves to be destroyed,
then anything Donald Trump does basically short of surrender will be too far for you.
If I was visiting the school 100 years ago, speaking in support of an American president,
I think we would at least have some broad agreement on what a country's leader should be trying to do.
But we don't anymore.
I don't think it's because America's change.
In fact, I think it's because Britain has changed.
From my perspective, Britain is one of the greatest countries in the history of the world.
You are the country of Shakespeare, the steam engine, and Adam Smith.
You defeated Napoleon.
You destroyed the slave trade.
You stood up to Hitler.
Hitler. My country America became great as it is because of what we inherited from you, from
Britain. When I hear the slogan, make America great again, I'm also hearing, quote, return America
to its British roots. Great Britain has everything in the world to be proud of. But when I look
at Britain today, I see a country where the ruling elites are in a race to abandon the very values,
the values that made them so great in the first place. Thank you, Charlie Kirk. We'll try and
save this country. And do you proud?
Breaking today, slippery Stama, the United Kingdom's corrupt and then battled Prime Minister must
surely now go after the decision far, far, far too late to sack Peter Mandelson as the ambassador
to the United States, a man who he personally appointed after it emerged that he was
not just a best friend, but a career advisor to Geoffrey Epstein, America's most infamous
paedophile, even after his conviction for soliciting, a young girl. Now, of course it's
extraordinary to me that Mandelson ever ended up in that position. And when people try and say that
Candace Owens is in some way a conspiracy theorist or mad for suggesting that a network of
paedophiles is running the world, then how on earth do you explain Mandelson's elevation to one of
the most important positions for United Kingdom in the world? But of course what happened to
Mandelson also raises a lot of questions about Prince Andrew too. Why was the late Queen's favourite son?
completely cast out of public life
when Mandelson, who was far, far closer to Epstein
than Andrew ever was,
saw his career elevated.
Rave Hidal-Mankut with me now,
Rafe, let's look at the politics of this first.
Stama cannot survive this, can he?
He's lost as Deputy Prime Minister.
He's now lost as US Ambassador.
But the point is, this was not some sense.
secret that emerged, Rafe, he went in with his eyes wide open. The security concerns about
Mandelson were always well known. The close friendship with Epstein was always well known. And
even yesterday, Rafe, he stood up at PMQs and insisted that Mandelson had his full support.
So as far as I'm concerned, not only is Stama morally bankrupt, he's now politically toast. This
is the end.
And it's not only people like us who are saying this,
it's members of the Labour Party,
it's people sitting on the green benches behind Kyr Stama,
who are saying much the same thing.
How Stama could not see this Mandelson disaster coming
shows you that the man has zero political instinct whatsoever.
You know, there are only two cast iron rules in British politics.
One is that when a prime minister loses an election,
he has to move out of number 10 down.
Street. The second rule is that when Lord Manderson accepts a government job, he's going to
resign in disgrace within a few months. Those are the two rules. And this is the third time
that he's resigned in disgrace. And that Stama wasn't able to predict that this was inevitably
going to happen, especially given his knowledge of Mandelson's friendship with Epstein,
just goes to show you how ill-suited he is for that role. And, you know, I'm just amazed that
Stama continues to be so arrogant. How can he be arrogant when you have
nothing to be arrogant to go. You're so naive. And this entire party of his stinks, because
just 18 months ago, these people thought they were, you know, the bright heralds of the
new dawn. You had leading British commentators like Andrew Maher and others saying, well,
the serious people are coming in. They are, you know, they are not corrupt or anything else.
Well, I'm sorry. They're now spending their time defending Stama over accepting gifts from
Lord Ali for himself and his wife, spending time discussing.
Angela Rainer's multiple house purchases
and now defending the dark prince himself,
Lord Mandelson, over his friendship with a paedophile,
utterly corrupt.
Everything that they accused Boris Johnson and the Tories of,
they are doing themselves as the Uniparty scandals.
They're one and the same, whether Labour or Tory.
The man has to go, the question is when.
I forecast a while back that he wouldn't lead the government
into the next general election.
The question is whether he'll still be here by Christmas.
time. Now, the problem is, though, Rave, I actually think there's a much bigger story here.
And it is about the acceptability of paedophiles and of totally sexually bankrupt behavior amongst
our elites. And this is what we're learning about the macrons and whether you believe
that Brigitte is a man or a woman. It's not really the point. That was.
a pedophilic relationship, which is now at the heart of French politics. And the fact that
Mandelson is so readily accepted back in, does it not say something about the moral standards
of the people who not just run our country, but run the world? Because this is the globalist
elite. Well, there are two branches to say that, yes, that certainly seems as if there is a double
standard in a two-tier system that applies to our elite class and their activities.
But as I would say with, personally speaking, I would say with Mandelson, it's something very
different here. First and foremost, because Mandelson is gay. He's a homosexual, and I don't have,
I've not heard of any stories about Epstein procuring young boys or procuring young men
below the age of minority on his islands or whatever. So I think perhaps that's one of the reasons
why there's not necessarily the whiff of sexual scandal around Mandelson,
whereas we know this was a man who loved being around the rich and famous.
That was his Achilles heel.
He wanted a lifestyle.
He couldn't afford.
And if you look at that photograph of him with Epstein on that island,
where Epstein is wearing a shirt and trousers,
Mandelson is in a white robe.
He's clearly been for some spa treatment around the pool.
And he's got this adoring look, almost like Epstein's lap dog.
And this is a man who claims.
to be such an important figure in British politics,
but he simply found the aphidisiac of wealth and power so much
that he was willing to put aside all common sense
and all good ideas about what he should be doing in life.
The emails, the leaked emails, Rafe, are truly reprehensible,
truly morally reprehensible.
Peter Mandelson, who, by the way, has been at the heart of every Labour government
of the modern age, which, again, should tell you something about Labour,
was quite literally advocating for Geoffrey Epstein
to use his conviction for child trafficking, for paedophilia
as a way to relaunch himself.
It's truly sick.
And I just want to show you how he reacted, Rafe,
when Harry Cole of the son asked him whether the Epstein files should be released.
Watch this.
President Trump seems reluctant to clear the decks on this one.
Would you be in a personal capacity, be supportive of the Epstein files, so-called Epstein files being released?
That's not a matter for me.
And a personal matter is someone who's potentially named in them.
Would you have any problem with them being published?
I don't believe I'm named in Epstein files.
I have no doubt at all that there's a lot of traffic.
correspondence, exchanges between us. Absolutely. And we know those are going to surface. We know
they're going to come out. We know they're going to be very embarrassing. And they know that I'm
going profoundly to regret ever having met him and been introduced to him in the first place.
But I can't rewrite history. What I can do, what I can do is express my profound sympathy
for those who are badly treated by him. And secondly, I can accept. Yes, I can
accept that I continued my association with him for too long.
Have you discussed this, A, with the Prime Minister, and do you retain his full support on this
matter? And have you discussed it with the President?
I haven't discussed it with either the President or the Prime Minister, and I hope that I'm
doing a good enough job as Ambassador here in the United States.
I mean, doesn't that say at all that he hadn't actually even discussed it with
slippery stomach?
Yeah. I mean, but the thing is, there you've got.
the master of the dark arts a man famed for his ability to slither and slide out of any situation
but even here the game is up and even he couldn't he couldn't cover up what we all see and it's the
moral bankruptcy of the man and it's the ineptitude of his leader kirstama this is the thing
this is a man who continued to befriend someone after he knew that he was a pedophile and a child
prostitution procurer and continue that relationship all for the sake of
of having fancy holidays, having access to powerful people.
And that's the moral bankruptcy that's at the heart of the globalist elite network.
They don't care what you've done so long as you are in a position of power to help and influence them.
Rave, can you feel that this is a little bit unfair on Prince Andrew?
I mean, he lost everything.
and really his relationship with Epstein
was nowhere near as close
as that of Mandelson
who found himself promoted.
I'm not as, I'm not as forgiving as perhaps you are.
Yes, certainly you could say
that Manusel had a stronger relationship.
However, of course, as I said,
there was no hint of sexual impropriety
on behalf of Mandelson.
You know, Prince Andrew is still,
innocent under the eyes of the law. He has not been tried or found guilty of anything,
but unfortunately he's been tried in the eyes of the public court. And for better or worse,
the monarchy lives or dies by public opinion. And I'm afraid his lack of judgment,
similar to that of Mandelson, knowingly continuing to befriend and even in fact stay at the
residence of somebody who was convicted for those insidious and evil crimes does call into
question his judgment. Just as he was willing to lay down his life for Queen and Country
during the Falklands War, I'm afraid the fallout of the Epstein scandal gave him a similar
challenge to go out into the wilderness and to sacrifice his public life for the sake of the monarchy.
And I think he's done that nobly, but I think that's where he has to remain. Yeah, I mean,
by the way, I'm not defending what Prince Andrew did. My view on the whole Epstein saga,
though, is that Galane Maxwell and Prince Andrew have been the very easy people to blame in all
of this, right? Like, let's not look at Bill Clinton. Let's not look at Bill Gates. Let's go for
the two Brits. Let's go for the two Brits with connections to the royal family because we know
that's where the tabloid is going, interest is going to be. And they are the only people who truly
have been punished for what happened with Jeffrey Epstein. And I do think there's more to emerge on this.
And certainly what I do think we can all agree on is that Stama's judgment proves,
absolutely proves that he is no longer fit to be the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
And as Rafe Hidal-Manku says, it may take weeks, it may even take months,
but this is now a morally bankrupt, lame duck prime minister.
Breaking today, King Charles.
meeting with Prince Harry wasn't as it seemed with the duplicitous Duke given the cold shoulder
during a very short meeting with no special treatment where he was even forced to drive through
the public entrance rather than being given the special passage that Sophie the Duchess of Edinburgh
was allowed to use just 20 minutes before his arrival. And if you look at the special
picture from Megan's mole, which juxtaposes Prince Harry's face arriving at Clarence House to that
of him leaving, certainly it is clear that he wasn't happy with the outcome. So we're learning
quite a lot about actually what went down in that meeting. Lady Colin Campbell reporting here
on outspoken that Prince Harry was in the room for less than half an hour. Even woke ITV, major allies of
Prince Harry, say the meeting only went on for 45 minutes. Then, when you look at exactly what went down
and Charles's schedule, let's take this from the Sun, for example, which reports on the private tea
reunion, the schedule was absolutely fascinating and did not suggest that Charles wanted to spend
any real quality time with Harry, because look at this. He attended the Privy Council meeting from
345 to 415, then an investiture with 95-year-old Holocaust survivor Manfred Goldberg from
415 to 5pm. Harry arrived through the Clarence House gates at 521pm. Charles then began a meeting
with an Australian dignitary at 6.10pm and Harry was seen driven away at 6.14 p.m.
Yesterday, Sophie, the Duchess of Edinburgh was seen leaving Clarence House just 20 minutes before
Harry arrived, tellingly, Harry and his driver Barack Obama's former bodyguard Christopher Sanchez
were made to use the visitor's entrance and they were not driven in through the gate on the
mall, which was used earlier by the king and Sophie and as for members of the royal family.
Ouch, that's got to hurt.
Rafe Hadleman Koo, the optics of this, I think, from King Charles have maybe been more clever than I
initially believed. What I will say, and I'm going to be very honest about this, I still believe
the monarch has made a huge mistake. I think Harry is using this meeting for commercial gain. He needs
proximity to the royal family to try and get these big deals in America. And we know that he is
not only morally bankrupt at the moment, but financially bankrupt too. And I totally agreed with William's
position, which is that this was a man, just like the Duke of Windsor before him, who does
to stay in exile for the rest of his life. However, Rafe, this was not the choreography of a
meeting of a loving father wanting to spend quality time with his darling son. He was treated like
a sort of low-level dignitary coming in for the lowest amount of access. And we're also told
that Queen Camilla was there and that Charles had no
one-on-one time with Harry whatsoever. So even though the mainstream media raf are trumpeting this
idea of this being the big royal reunion, actually, was Charles sending a bit of a message that
this is, I guess, a very tentative start? That's precisely what it is. And the use of the term
low-level dignitary is quite correct, because along with the ignominy of having to enter,
not through the entrance
that other members of the raw family use.
He also had to suffer the indignity
of being stuck in the traffic of London
due to the London tube strike
where he wasn't given
the blue lights police escort
that would have been able to cut through the traffic.
He had to deal with it
just as any other Londoner would have to deal with it.
If we're stuck in traffic,
you bloody better be too, Harry,
because we don't even want you here.
Exactly.
So it began a lot longer, so he should have got some knowledge as to what was awaiting him.
And remember, the last time that Prince Harry was in the country, he wanted to have a meeting with his father, we're told, and the king said that he wasn't available.
This time, he is available, but only for a very small amount of time.
It seems to me clearly that his majesty or his advisors are only doing these things very incrementally step by step.
And I'm sure that that meeting that was held between Prince Harry's chief aides and the King's chief's aides very publicly on the balcony of the Royal Overseas League club, looking over St. James's Park, included some requirements from the Duke of Sussex that he wouldn't talk about any conversation that he had with his father. I suppose they're waiting to see whether he still holds true to that.
Because by past performance, by past performance, he certainly has been very free in speaking when it comes to revealing conversations.
And the level of trust has been completely eradicated.
So you can completely understand why the king will be reticent to speak anything other than the briefest of niceties to his estranged son.
This is a test, absolutely.
There was no trust in that meeting from what I'm told.
Absolutely.
Charles's warning, you know, you keep this between us.
And let's see if you can really do that, because we know Harry's going to immediately get on the phone to Megan Markle.
And so even if Harry stays quiet, will she?
Now, look, I want to show you some reporting from Tom Sykes.
He's the European editor at large for The Daily Beast, but also runs the royalist blog on Substack.
And this was from there.
And his contention, Rafe, is that the reason Charles actually ended up going through with this meeting is because
he is desperate for a reunion with Archie and Lily, the two children, his two grandchildren,
who of course he hasn't seen in years. Watch this.
Is where does it go from here? Like it's definitely not going to end with Harry getting his patronages
back, getting a palace back, becoming a member of the Working Royal Family again.
Like we all know that that is not going to happen.
But it's also a completely pointless meeting if it doesn't wind up with Charles meeting his
grandchildren.
And that has to be the end game here, I would suggest.
If we can't get to a stage where a man can see his grandchildren in the last years of his
life, I think that's just a really tragic kind of indictment on all of them.
I don't begrudge Charles for seeing his son
but I hope he isn't bringing him back
I think that probably sums up
what most people think about Charles
I think that most people think
yeah we don't begrudge Charles seeing his son
of course we don't
of course we don't
but how people feel about Harry
I think is a different matter
but Rafe isn't there a major problem with this
that Harry has made it clear
and he did so in the BBC interview too
that he has no intention of
Megan, Archie or Lily
coming back to the country
until he receives the full security detail
which the government will not give him
for very good reason
and Charles will not get involved
and overrule his government
which would plunge us into a constitutional crisis
so we're still at loggerheads
and I would hate to think
that that's also to think
of Prince Harry that he thinks perhaps he could use his children as some sort of bargaining chip
but he is he is something with i would hope to think that that's not right yes well he just is
and the this is dangling those children rave and i think it's sick given the king's health
sorry to interrupt but i think that is exactly what he is doing you have to remember of course
this is a royal family and the king of course is and always has been a doting father and aside
from all of the politics and all the drama,
this is a man who has always,
throughout this terrible period
of estrangement, has always left
the door open, has always, as a Christian
monarch, has always hoped that his son
would prove to be that prodigal
son. And he did extend
olive branches repeatedly, obviously.
All of those were spurned.
And now, of course, the king
is not in great health still, still
undergoing weekly cancer treatment,
never seen one of his grandchildren.
So yes, you would hope
that there would be some sort of compromise where Prince Harry would, you know,
bring them over out of, and nothing more than just decency and love for his father
to enable that to happen. And we can just hope that it happens sooner rather than later.
Well, indeed, because of course, the other thing that Tom Sight says, Rave,
is that all of this has to be seen in the context of the fact,
and the mainstream media don't like to discuss this, and of course I like to do so sensitively,
but the fact that Charles is dying.
Watch this.
As far as I can tell,
people are pretty, pretty hostile to Harry
and are concerned on the King's behalf
that he's going to be exploited, basically,
and that Harry's going to reveal secrets from the meeting.
Don't forget, it was only in men,
2nd of May this year, that Harry went on television and said,
my father won't speak to me, he could fix my whole security problem at the drop of a hat,
and I don't know how long he has left.
Now, that is incredibly inflammatory thing to say.
The palace has done nothing for the past year.
The king's fine.
The king's fine.
The king's great.
The king's fantastic.
The king's never been better, you know, even though we can all see that, you know,
Charles is losing weight
he doesn't look great
he's very tired
when he's out and about
he looks very tired when he's out and about
on jobs
and you know
we've been through it all before
with the queen right we were all told for years
there's nothing wrong with the queen there's nothing wrong with the queen
and we could see her
the weight falling off her in front of us
and you know the awful
things happening
and so I think that
what I'm trying to say is that really I think that you have to see this in the context
of just understanding that these probably are the last years of Charles's life
and he's gone further on with that on his substack rave writing the Harry Charles
reconciliation makes a lot of sense if you understand King Charles is dying
Prince Harry's long overdue meeting with his father yesterday is best understood as a subplot
to the grander narrative of impending succession.
But again, this just makes me feel repulsed by Harry.
Repulsed.
This is your father.
He is the king of England.
He's agreed to see you.
All he wants is to see and have a relationship with his grandchildren before he dies.
And you're making that difficult for him.
I mean, the fact that, Rafe, that he thinks that this is ever going.
going to endear him again to the British public.
And I know we've had this big performance this week from Harry,
which has just made me cringe.
I think it's been awful, actually.
He's like a man baby.
But it's like what we will never forget, Rafe,
is that you made the Queen's life miserable in her final years,
Prince Philip's life miserable in his final years.
Now you are doing the same to your goddamn father.
It's unforgivable.
Well, I was just going to say it's unforgivable,
but precisely that, it's unforgivable and it's unnecessary.
And I'll tell you why it's so unforgivable.
of all particularly, because the Royal
family make private visits all the time
around the world that we aren't aware
of. Her late majesty, the Queen
loves horses. She was going to
Kentucky all the time to go
and see horse breeders out there. We
were never aware of that. His Majesty
has just been in Scotland. My
God, Harry, with his family, could
get on a private jet. They could go to
Canada or even to do a change of plane or whatever,
but they could fly to Scotland. Nobody
would see them take off. Nobody
would see them land. They would get into their
vehicles with shielded windows and go straight to Balmoral or Burk Hall and they could be home
and nobody would even have been aware that they had been in the country. There is no excuse for
not taking your children to see their sickly grandfather. 100%. Now, can we just talk about
Harry's performance this week? Because again, he thinks that he's been really clever, right? He
thinks that what he's doing is overshadowing Prince William and sort of proving that the world
loves the idea of this cheeky, chappy prince. And it's like, let's see if there's a way to tap
into what the British public used to like about Harry. Personally, and remember I'm pretty much
the same age as William, so not that far off from Harry. Personally, I'm like looking at him thinking,
you're acting like you're 21 you've got to grow up this this is mortifying and he went to this
well child awards rave and he made a joke in front of a very unwell young man called decklin
bitmead who'd actually won this inspirational young person award about his family and i thought it was
so awful harry asked him because this this young man told him that he had a brother and harry asked him
does he drive you mad? And Declan replied, no, we get on fine. Harry replied, you know what,
siblings. Then when told his brother went to the same school, Harry said you're at the same
school. That sometimes makes it more challenging. Now, this poor young guy, Declan, clearly found
the whole thing uncomfortable. We know what Harry was trying to do, make headlines, given his
viewed with William. And I found it very uncomfortable. And then there's a couple of little pieces of
footage too, which again, I think, just show how immature Harry is. Watch this.
I said for many years that I still have a child inside of me.
Have you got brothers and sisters?
I've got a younger brother.
Does he drive me mad?
No, we get a lot of fun.
And it's like, grow up. I mean, I just feel like this whole strategy is wrong.
Yeah, well, he is immature. He is a child. You know, the tiaras and tantrums are what you expect from social media influences in their 20s, not from a Prince of the Realm and a soldier, an experienced soldier in his, you know, in his forties. This is a man who is essentially a middle-aged child. You know, he has not accepted that he's middle-aged. And, you know, he simply can't help himself. There he is trying to mend bridges with his father, with his majesty, at the same time, having a
dig at his brother and he can't help it i mean that goes to show the level of immaturity and just remember
when he has recently failed court case against his majesty's government the first member of the
rule family to take his father's government to court he was hoping until the 11th hour that the king
would step in magically on his side i mean a completely dreamlike fantasy world that he lives in
look we know that he is a bird in a gilded cage in california he hates his life he's living in
Megan's world. All his social contacts are Megan's contacts. She's got what she wanted to out of the
relationship. She's now mixing with A-listers or at least B or C-listers. Yeah. More like Zed listers these
days. Yeah. But she's got so what she's got so wannabe Martha Stewart show going. Whenever she's
going to get out of the monarchy she has, he can only be a prince or a polo player or a soldier.
And none of those can he be in America. And I think he deeply regrets what's happened. And he wishes he hadn't had what
happened over the last few years and that he remained here. And this is his attempt to remind us
of the old Harry, but I'm sorry, far too much water has gone onto that bridge. He's made his,
made his bed, and now I'm afraid he has to lie in it. Yeah, exactly. And I think while Prince William
Rafe keeps his position on Harry, the public will keep our position. Do you see,
I think the public feel a lot of loyalty to William and Catherine after the past couple of
years. And I think we view what Harry put these two through at such a terrible time in
their life as close to unforgivable, actually. So as far as I'm concerned, and I don't
mean to be cruel at all to Charles, but really the decisions that he makes about Harry are going
to end up being irrelevant at some point in the future. Because William wants this guy
in exile. And at some point, Rafe, he will have the power to ensure that that is the case.
And I mean, I'm constantly told that as it stands, William doesn't even want to have Harry
at his coronation, which would be a huge call.
Yes. Well, look, what we're talking about here is the rapprochement between a father and an
estranged son. It's a deeply personal family matter. What you're talking about absolutely is
about the succession to the throne, and it's about the monarchy as an institution, and certainly
in no context, even if the king was overjoyed to see his son, is there any path back for the
Duke of Sussex? So yes, whatever happens with His Majesty the King, certainly the doors to the car,
the drawbridge has been lifted to the castle and is not coming down for Prince Harry at any point.
Well, what a day of news, Rafe. What a day of news. No one who I would rather discuss it with more
than you and of course you should follow rave hadelman koo on youtube for much more of his analysis
he is also a senior fellow at the brilliant new culture forum and a broadcaster and historian
raf so good to have you today thanks so much then and thank you for all of your feedback today
all of your super chats i mean i've been looking at them throughout and i've really been
happening. Abita says, I just want to say rest in peace to Charlie Kirk and Erinna Zerutska.
The Be Kind Left showing their true face. I will be down at the Freedom Rally on the 13th of
September. We all stand by Charlie Kirk. Funky Junkie says, thank you. Please stay safe,
Tommy Robinson. And anyone who is standing up to corruption, I would be there.
on Saturday, but I was
but I was butchered by a surgeon.
Oh, my God.
Well, I hope you're okay.
But, oh, I've got news on that coming tomorrow.
We've got very exciting news coming tomorrow.
If you cannot be at the United Kingdom,
the rally on Sunday, this is where you're going to,
on Saturday, sorry, this is where you're going to need to be.
But I'm going to tell you all about that tomorrow.
Biological females here's Piers Morgan has some front.
Sussex guy says we had a 16-year-old schoolboy murdered yesterday
at our local train station.
Seaford, the murderer was awesome.
so 16. What T.F. I know what you mean there has happened to this generation. Private Jose
says absolutely disgusting the way the left speak about Charlie. These people need to be arrested
and sent to prison ASAP. Rest in peace, Charlie, you will be missed. And D.D. says, we are all Charlie,
RIP, my Christian brother. Thank you so much to Nina.
Bonava, who believes that all three of our union jackass nominees are evil people,
and we're going to come to them very shortly.
Other comments here, Paige Dare, says people who can't stand dissent
and must silence voices in any way possible are cowards and simpleton.
Charlie was a great man and a great voice.
They still didn't silence him.
They still haven't won.
Paul Lockwood.
The left will not be able to get away with this.
Our leaders must be held accountable for their language.
very similar pool to what Donald Trump said in the Oval Office last night.
Linda Kent said murdered with a microphone in hand.
Let's not forget the words of common sense.
Truth is now being taken.
Let's carry Charlie Kirk's words ford.
And Susie Emily says, sorry, Dan, this is making me too effing angry.
These people are sick.
Not sick as in disgusting, although that is also the case,
but sick in their head mentally sick.
I have to say I agree
I saw a post on X from someone
saying
we didn't act like this
when Joe Cox was murdered
we were horrified
or when Gabby Giffords was shot
in the head in the US
we were horrified
there is a deep evil sickness
running amongst the left
and the people who are celebrating
what happened to Charlie Kirk today
and it's very very worrying sign
thank you so much for all of your feedback today
Now let's reveal today's Greatest Britain and Union Jackass.
A reminder of your nominees, Bushra Shake, nominated by Sarah Booth,
for her despicable reaction to the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Prince Harry, nominated by Rose Junie for turning the Well Child Awards
to be all about promoting his showmanship or lack thereof.
And Joy Cheney, nominated by C.J. Edmund,
the BBC contributor that laughed at Charlie Kirk's death.
Okay, the results are now in.
In third place with 13% of the vote, Joy Cheney,
the runner-up with 36% of the vote, Bushra Shake,
but today's Union Jackass, Prince Harry.
Now, he is going to go head-to-head
without other Union Jackassers from across the week.
Let me just remind you of who they were
on Tuesday, Shabnamamam-Mood,
on Wednesday, Peter Mandelson.
Well, that's quite a lineup, isn't it?
Shabnamamam-Mood versus Peter Mandelson versus Prince Harry.
To be named the worst Britain in the world this week, we will announce it at the end of
last week, at the end of tomorrow's show, but you're going to be able to vote straight after
today's show in the Post's tab on YouTube. I hope that makes sense.
But today's greatest Britain is an honorary, but there could only be one choice.
nominated by Real McCass
who writes it goes without saying
but today's GB should be honorary
and dedicated to Charlie Kirk
after his brutal murder
he lived life to fight for free speech everywhere
he cared about Britain
his death will not be in vain
we collectively must fight for free speech
and win
and fight for Charlie Kirk we will
and fight for this unit
Kingdom, we will. And do be back with us tomorrow because Tommy Robinson has some big news
to reveal about uniting the kingdom, which we will do on tomorrow's show. But we're moving on to
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