Dan Wootton Outspoken - TOMMY ROBINSON STORMS BACK TO UK FOR FIERY INTERVIEW AS HE DESTROYS STEVE LAWS & MIKE GRAHAM

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

BREAKING TODAY: Tommy Robinson threatened again upon entering the UK as the deep state does all it can to shut down the main man challenging the Islamist takeover of Britain. Tommy joins Dan today for an exclusive interview to respond. He’ll also hit back at fresh criticism from Steve Laws and Mike Graham. PLUS: Will Tommy sue Nick Lowles of Hope Not Hate for false cocaine claims? AND: Why on earth has OnlyFans degenerate Lily Phillips just been baptised? THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Prince William’s fury at the return of his brother Harry because of the government’s security U-turn. We’ll have all the latest with our Royal Mastermind Angela Levin. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wharton. This is outspoken episode number 398. And breaking today, Tommy Robinson threatened again upon entering the UK as the deep state does all it can to shut down the main man challenging the Islamist takeover of Britain. What does it say that there's a judge or a warrant or police or not? Is it High Court judge? I don't know who is looking for you. I only know that it's... Is it in the pole? It's in the pole, yeah.

Another country, there'll be an in the bowl, a restaurant. Okay, thank you. Tommy, with me for the entire show today, for an exclusive interview to respond. I mean, Tommy, we didn't know if you were going to make it for a while, given what went down. I didn't think I was making it, no.

So that went down in Tenerife. I've been in Tenerife. I went on New Year's Eve. I wanted to go into the new year and somewhere where I was fit, healthy training. So I went to Tenerife. I was over there with my son. I sent him back, actually.

He went back at the 12 o'clock flight. I got the 7 p.m. flight. Because I always suspect this anyway. And when I got to the airport, that my passport flagged up with the Spanish and they said, well, we need to stop. Then they got on the phone and they said, someone's looking for you, a judge, a judge is looking for you. I said, what do you mean the judge is looking for me? Is there a warrant? Is it? What's going on? And then at the end he says, no, unless you, when you get back, you need to contact

the judges or you will be arrested. So I guess, I guess this is to do, I don't know if you saw the other week. High Court sheriffs went looking for me at my mother's house. So when I got 18 months last year, last year, when I got 18 months for the documentary silenced, because it was a civil offence, not criminal. Not only did I get the 18 months, but then the government, the Attorney General's office, added up every penny they'd spent on that case and then sent, give me the invoice as I walked out of jail. So as I walked out prison i was handed a documentation paper i think that for that there was a hundred and seven i think it adds up to nearly 200 grand but for that there was like 103 or 107 000 of costs for that

so they get me that and said i have i have however long to pay it or i have to go back to court obviously i haven't come out of jail and paid 103 000 i don't have 103 000 so they haven't received their money the high court a high court warrant officer then went to my mums recently i don't live at my mums. I rang them up and said that. I don't live there. But they come to repossess possessions that I own. And then I guess, because this happened to me a few weeks ago when I was at another foreign airport and they stopped me again and said, no, you can't leave until we have proof of address. And that was a way. That was in Barcelona. I couldn't leave until I had a proof of address. I said, what for? They said, it's coming from your country.

You need a proof of address. Yeah. So the deep state psychological war, warfare absolutely continues. It's insane. By the way, should also say, congratulations, Tommy. This is the first time that you've been on since outspoken viewers. And by the way, they voted in their millions last year, made you the greatest Britain of 2025. Were you surprised? I was surprised. It's a great feeling, mate, if I'm honest. It's a great feeling, man. Because I have my ups and downs and I feel good and I feel bad. And then it was a great feeling to see that, because I think sometimes I don't give myself time

to think about what's just gone on. I've just done that now. That's why I went away. I went away again. I thought I needed at a just some time. Walking, chilling, gym, routine. I've got a bit lost before Christmas there. Totally. So when I was thinking about,

I thought, Jesus, man, when I was thinking about the last 12 months. I started the year in prison, ended with United the Kingdom. It was a ride. But look, lots coming up from Tommy today because he will also respond to this fresh criticism that has come from Steve Lords and Mike Graham. Tommy Robinson will do because he's a traitor.

Yeah, well, he gets hundreds of thousands of people going to this rallies. How many people go to yours? Yeah, but he's getting hundreds of thousands of people leading them astray, and they're only going to that rally because it's the only rally in town. Oh, Tommy Robinson, thank of the decade. All of his mates are constantly saying, so sorry to Tommy, you know, you've called him names. Well, the last time I saw him on social media talking about, he called me a pedo. He's called me all sorts of other nasty names.

I don't really mind. It doesn't bother me. I don't like the guy. I think he's a horrible little wanker. And I'm never going to change my view. Meanwhile, it's Americans, realizing the deep shit we now find ourselves. Even the Muhammad, last prophet, man, Mohammed, al-Sahlam, is the, It's the top name in UK, the born one boy is.

What do you speak? Bengali. Okay. Does the government help you with food and housing? Yes. Does they do? Yes. How long have they been helping you for? Why no, I come? Oh, so they help you for six years?

Oh, they've been helping you for six years? Yeah. Okay. And the Muslims, let's be honest, they're breeding like rabbits. That's like part of their mission is to have kids, have tons of kids, have six, seven, eight kids. and win by multiplication. So Christians need to start having babies. Sorry, but we do.

There's nothing wrong with it. I'm sorry, but no more Muslims. So much more of that in The Digest Next, also coming up on the show today. Will Tommy Sue, Nick Lowell's, of hope, not hate for false cocaine claims? And why on earth is that only vans, degenerate Lily Phillips,

just being baptized? We've got the astonishing video for you. Then we'll move over to Substack for the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow, Prince William's Fury, at the return of his brother, Harry, because of the government security, U-turn all the latest, with our Royal Mastermind, Angela Levin. No union jackass or greatest Britain today because of the special edition of the show with Tommy Robinson. It will return tomorrow, though.

So now, let's go. So Tommy Robinson remains under attack by the British Deep State. every time he attempts to enter his own country. This was the scene at Spanish Customs last night before he boarded his plane. For a fight? No? I don't know. No. So is it a judge? That's me. That's me. Yeah. So what does it say that there's a judge? or a warrant or police or no is it high court judge uh wait

when i'm sorry sorry you are from latin yeah yeah listen it's me it's me because when i when i traveled recently from barcelona and they stopped me I don't know who is looking for you. I only know that it's a... Look, what is this of the country? In the UK, yeah? In the UK? It doesn't say.

I don't know. Is it, when you get to that, you have to name to that and then... Yeah, but here it's Interpol, dude. Yeah, because it's Interpol, yeah. So Interpol seemingly now involved, but Tommy knows this is all about the British government cracking down on him for calling out the Islam threat to our way of life. You arrive to Tennessee.

A New Year's Eve. What day? New Year's Eve. The 31st. New Year's Eve? No. The day. New Year's Eve I come.

No. You'll be on there. When did I come here? What date? What day? 31 January. December? December 31.

Ah, okay. Okay. So is the Interpol of the U. So is an interpol stop on behalf of the UK. Okay, I can go. Go, go. They stop me in. I, I, I, when you are right to United Kingdom, they'll be waiting.

Call to the judge. I, I don't know who is looking for you, but someone search for, for me. You're looking in your, okay, you don't know, you don't do anything. Yes. Yes. Arrest, okay. another country they'll be an in a bowl restaurant okay okay thank you he said there's once he was on board the plane i was just saying someone in the queue they said i said every time i go through

the airport i just worry about what's going to happen next so i actually took my son earlier to the airport at 12 o'clock and flew him home separately because i don't like to go through the airports with my children so let's see what happens when i land hopefully i just get three pass-through but According to them, there's an Interpol notice from a UK judge wants me. Sorry, my life. What's so disturbing is that as the British deep state and MSM continues this attack, and it is an attack, it's psychological warfare against Tommy Robinson, Americans are wide awake to the threat and prepared to ask the hard questions

and call for the bold action when it comes to Islam that still terrifies the UK's elite. class, even as our country slips away before our very eyes, something the sound comedian Andrew Lawrence summed up brilliantly in this joke, which is going viral. I grew up in South London. Yeah. Now I live in Pakistan. I haven't moved.

I haven't moved. The stats are impossible to deny, but very easy to ignore. No mainstream journalist is going to tell you the truth about this, but Chris Davies of true conservative media has broken it down. I wanted to share it with you today. Europe's most dangerous cities, the UK, Bradford, to be precise, tops the table for the most dangerous cities in Europe based on citizen perception. In all, England features six times in the top 30. Coincidentally, if you believe in coincidence, which I don't,

in every city, the Muslim population is over 10% based on 2021 census data from the Office for National Statistics. This therefore excludes illegal immigrants. So you've got Bradford, 30.5% Muslim. Coventry, 10.5%. Birmingham, 29.9%. Manchester, 22.3%. London, 15%. Not in him 12.2%. England is not the only country to feature heavily. France has seven entries in the top 13 cities. Coincidentally, in every case, Muslim population over 10% there too, including the out-of-control Maasai, which is 20% Muslim. Now, it's so shocking to me that US independent journalists, like Nate Friedman, who teamed up with Tommy Robinson on a recent visit here, is doing the work that our legacy media refuses to watch also this someone that was not speechless was a store

owner i believe that you spoke with very concerned let's listen to that i see that the muslim community in the uk is really growing i think is the like the the top religious yeah you know growing in uk in the uk yeah yeah even the uh Muhammad our prophet last prophet name of muhammad is the uh is the the top name in UK, the born boy is yeah. Muhammad is the top name in the UK. Getting on that topic of baby names, Muhammad being the top name in the UK. Was there truth to that? Maybe what were your takeaways there speaking to the story? Yeah, absolutely. It's widely reported that Muhammad is now the number one name in the UK.

I'd ask the audience, does that sound like a headline you would expect from the UK or somewhere like Afghanistan? If you walk around Whitechapel, everywhere you turn you see at least one Muslim woman with a child, What's interesting is how they're getting the money to do this. What do you speak? Bengali. Okay. Does the government help you with food and housing? Yes.

Does they do? Yes. How long have they been helping you for? Oh, so they help you for six years? Yeah. Oh, they've been helping you for six years? Yeah. Okay.

Now the UK just voted to scrap the two child benefit cap. Now who benefits from that the most? Muslim migrants. The 26% of Muslims living in England and Wales are living in subsidize housing. 32% of Muslims live in overcrowded homes compared to that of 6% from Christians in the UK. The birth rate in the UK is 1.4 children per woman. The Muslim UK birth rate has been cited as high as 3.4. You can conquer a country like this. It's part of that because Muslim people are encouraged to have a lot of children, right?

Yeah, more children. Even we are five brothers. You have five brothers. Yeah. Just incredible work. from Nate Friedman. I highly recommend you go and check the whole thing out. And again, I compare our so-called right in the UK to a figure like the great Megyn Kelly, a good friend of mine in the US, who makes her position Oz on Muslims in politics abundantly clear. And the Muslims, let's be honest, they're breeding like rabbits. That's like part of their mission is to have kids, have tons of kids, have six, seven, eight kids, and win by multiple

So Christians need to start having babies. Sorry, but we do. There's nothing wrong with it. I'm sorry, but no more Muslims. We're done. Our values are not aligned. They're just not. I have Muslim friends. It's nothing against them. Their individual, you know, friendships are fine. They as individuals are fine. But Islam is not consistent with the values of America, of the West. They should stay in countries that don't care about keeping church and states. separated, they should stay in countries that don't care about protecting free speech. They should stay in countries that don't care about women's rights. That's where Islam can fester and grow. It's great. I mean, I'm sure if that's like your thing and you don't care about like genital mutilation, you might really enjoy living in an Islamic country. If you don't mind living in a life as a woman where you have to keep every inch of your

body except for your eyeballs covered, yeah, someplace in the Middle East could be for you. It's not my thing. it's not America's thing and it's not a thing that we should want or encourage in the West and it's definitely not a thing we should encourage

at our governmental level but what's going on here in the UK is a debate between so-called civic and ethno-nationalist categories by the way that like Connor Tomlinson and I completely reject it was depressing though

for me to see Andrew Gold just shrug off the idea of the white population going extinct in this interview with Steve Lawless watch but there's those That what you've just presented there would not reverse the demographic decline, would still become a minority in our homeland. At some point, unfortunately, white people, and I count myself among them, will become a minority and will probably go extinct.

We are a worldwide minority already, which is why I take the radical stance, that the English have the right to exist. We have the right to our own homeland. That everyone agrees on that, right? Yeah. That's the basis line. I think so. I think that's the base. It depends what you mean by English. That's the issue.

We already disagree on the meaning of English. So there's that, okay. But ultimately, with the direction that the country's going, the future of our people is at stake, the most radical stance that we have to take to fix this is okay with me. I don't care what we have to do. I don't care who gets caught in the crossfires.

I don't care how much damage gets done along the way as long as the future of my people is secured. That's my line. But in that same interview, Steve Laws continued what I believe is a completely unfair attack on Tommy Robinson. You think the average mum and dad that goes on the school run is going to go out on the street and fight against people because they're brought an immigrant. I think Tommy Robinson will fight against that. Yeah, Tommy Robinson will do because he's a traitor. Yeah, well, he gets hundreds of thousands of people going to this rallies.

How many people go to yours? Yeah, but he's getting hundreds of thousands of people leading them astray and they're only going to that rally because it's the only rally in town. Do you have any room in your mind for that you might be wrong? No. See, that's the sign of an ideologue. I don't care. Yeah, but you might be wrong here. What's going on?

No, I believe I'm right. The future of my people is non-negotiable. I want England to belong to the English. And now Tommy Robinson is here to respond. Okay, Tommy, loads to go at. But let's kick off with Steve Laws, because this is an interview that has very much divided the right in the UK, what do you want to say to him?

I watched a video of Steve Laws interviewing a girl who had a mixed race child, and he told her that he'd deport her child. That's what he told her. So I totally agree, whites cannot become a minority. They cannot, and they must not. And the English, white English have to remain a majority in England. We have to reverse the migration. We have to deal with the demographic replacement of our people in this country, across Europe, across the whole place.

Do we need to deport every single non-white, British Christian person? No, we don't. Are we going to? No, I don't. Would I want us to? No, I would. Because what that would mean is deporting. Remember, you have to understand where I'm from as well.

It would mean deporting people that all of us, I'd say pretty much all of us, have a friend or loved one that is of a, non-white skin. Now, Steve Laws will talk about deporting a mixed-race child like that, but doesn't talk about deporting me. Well, my mother's from Ireland, yeah? So what's the difference between that? Because I've got an English father, but that little child that he said he wanted to support had an English mother. So for me, what he does is cause a massive problem because, yes, the public are angry. Yes, the public are frustrated. Yes, the public don't want become a minority. But let's look at the reality of which numbers, who we've become a minority too. Because I, and I can, I'll bring you back again to the, to 2013 when I looked at the growth

forecast for Lute in my hometown by 2030. The Pakistani and Bangladeshi community were going to increase by 70 to 77 percent, the white and black community by 1.2 to 1.4%. If we stopped Islamic immigration, if we dealt with the Islam issue, we're not going to be. become a minority. Whites are, and dealt with the migration. If we dealt with that, okay, because the Chinese aren't having taken. If there's any Chinese here, Japanese here, if there's any Sikhs here, Hindus here, they're not having the birth rate of the Islamic community. It can be dealt with by halting immigration, reversing immigration, getting rid of all of the illegal immigrants without being fucking retards and thinking we're going to take someone whose parents

and their parents were born in England and love England. For example, my mate, yeah, Isaac, who served in the British military, served for the Royal Marines. Yes, he's black. He's got England tattoos on him. He loves this country. He's probably done more for this country than that fucking little seven stone div that was interviewed.

And he probably would do more in a fight. He'd be on the front lines more than Steve Laws would, yeah? So Steve Laws talks about it's the only demonstration in town. And also Father Calvin Robinson. By the way, would be deported from this country under Steve Laws' plan because one of his parents is non-white. And then all of these things, it's just, for me, it's a ridiculous stance. Yeah, for me, it's ridiculous stance.

But the way he's getting wind with it is because people are concerned about becoming a minority. And of course, they're concerned. Yeah, and Andrew Gold did just shrug it off in that interview. I know he's tried to clarify that, but it wasn't good from my point of I come at this from quite an interesting angle and I reject the labels, by the way, civic nationalist, ethno-nationalists, I reject them because if you take my situation, Tommy, it is quite unique and I had a row with World by Wolf on X about this because think about it, right? I am English. I am entirely ethnically English, even though I was born in New Zealand. My parents are English. They were born in the United Kingdom. Well, my mum was. My dad was born on a British Army base in Malta. But if you took Steve Laws' prescription to its end point, my family would be deported from New Zealand. Every white person would be deported from Australia. Every white person would be deported from Canada.

So that's why I don't sign up to the full prescription of what Steve Laws is saying, because it's more complicated. No, I think, Steve Laws is going to be deported. Fucking no one. Who the fuck is Steve Laws? Steve Laws is going to be deported no one. The prick's never going to be in power. He's never going to gain momentum. He's never going to do anything other than spout shit to his little ethno-nationalist group.

That's all that's going to happen. So why so many people are having discussions about who's going to be deported and who's not going to be deported because of what Steve Laws say is pretty comical because it's never going to happen. Now, as I said, if Steve Laws wishes to hold a. a demonstration to have all non-whites deported. Go and do it, Steve. Like, please, go and do it. Let everyone know that you're marching through your capital city, through Dover, through whatever city you choose. Go and hold a mass rally, because apparently there's fucking millions of you, go and hold a mass rally and call for the deportation of everyone that's not ethnically English

or white. Go and do it and see, as we were the only demonstration in town, see how many people turn up to that demonstration. See how many people turn up. And then, and then we can just end this bullshit argument that the majority of the British public want to deport every single person that's not white, because they don't. They just don't. And that, and the reason why there's so many people on a United Kingdom event, the reason why we have exploded, the reason why even under the English Defence League, we were able to galvanise 10,000 people out on the streets. This is 15 years ago when no one could. The reason why that was was because we wasn't wanting to pour every single non-white person. We wasn't neo-Nazis. We wasn't racist. We wasn't all of those things. That's the

reason they haven't been able to stop us. Now, along comes someone like Steve Laws and whoever else on that side of the argument having these arguments. It just won't work. It's not going to work. It's never going to gain momentum. I don't really understand why. I, when I see it, I just think, what's the point in sitting down? Steve Laws doesn't have a, he's not got an organisation, he's not got a mass movement behind him. There's nothing other than, he has on the internet, because then you've got Canadians, Americans, Europeans,

all of these ethno-nationalists who all want every non-white person deported. Yeah, there's a large group of them spread across the globe, all very organised in their little groups. But as I said, hold a rally. Go have a march. Go have a demonstration. Do a petition if you want. Whatever you want to do, then do it.

So you're not, because we're then not the only, not the only show in town. There's plenty of shows. There's plenty of demonstrations everywhere. In fact, these wankers, all they do is attach onto other movements and other groups who have already holding their demonstrations. They turn up and unveil their stupid little banners. It's like, well, what are you turning up at an event of an ideology and idea

that you don't like? Because everyone knows what we. stand for, you can see that by the people singing and performing or speaking on our stages. We don't want them people deported, okay? We want the wrongans deported. We want people that want to implement Sharia law

in this country deported. We want when you mix oil and water, we want the oil deployed. Yes. And by the way, we're still talking about deporting millions of people. Millions of people. And you went through those figures there, percentages. It's all bullshit. Those percentages

are bullshit. I sat down with the leading imam, excuse my language, because I sat down with a leading imam in Lut and Qadir Basque years ago. And when I sat down, I said, what are there, 25, 30,000 Muslims? He said double it. He said, really, really double it. Whatever they tell you, double it. That was the lead imam in his community telling me how many illegals were there. He just said double it. You can double that for how many of us with Lut, double it. So all of those figures, whilst they're shocking, the situation is far, far worse. And in that list of dangerous cities, because it was

cities. Now when it comes to town Luton, my hometown tops the league every single time. Luton tops the league of the worst town to live in, the most violent town to live in. I've just watched this that's been sent that's gone out this morning, which is the highest drugs.

There's a little video here. Look. Drug dealing most rife in the east of England. And we get to the top five cities. Now, before naming the top entry, where in the east of England do you think drug activity is most concentrated? This area posts a staggering 22.1% involvement rate, sees millions in dirty money laundered through its vast shadow economy and perennially ranks among Britain's worst places to live. That place is Luton. So Luton is 22%. So when I talk about the shadow economy, what is the shadow economy?

It's the fruit and veg shops, the chicken shops, it's every cash industry. literally we've got a row of shops as a mile long. There's fruit of veg, fruit of veg, fruit of red, fruit of red, fruit of red, chicken chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, looting has more chicken shops per square mile than anywhere else in the country. They are, and bar, now they've gone from chicken shops to barbershops. But it's just, Luton tops it, I've lived it, I've experienced it.

But because I've experienced it, the difference between probably me and Steve Lawsons. I understand Steve Laws and I understand from looking outside and looking in. But remember, I've been in. Yeah. So I've grown up with every culture, every migrant group, St. Lucia, Bulgarians, Italians, Jamaicans, Indians, Chinese. I've gone to that multicultural diverse school. And as I say many times, look, if we didn't have Islam in Britain, if there was no Islam, none at all. So take out every single Muslim and take Islam out of the equation, none of us would ever, you wouldn't know Tommy Robinson. That's for a start. None of us would have a topics of conversation. to speak about around the immigration and the dangers and problems from it. Because the rapes we know in this country, they're coming from the Muslim community, per se, the immigration, if you want to do, 2003, we had 8,800 rapes,

2,023, we had 88,000. Now, what does that growth correlate with? It correlates with the growth of the Islamic community. You can literally do a graph, the same for Sweden. I've looked through each country. In fact, we're now, we're putting together a five-year vision for where we take the meat, media and cultural movement that we're planning now. So we've got me, we've been doing all this behind-the-scenes stuff of planning a cultural movement, a media movement, a mass international

citizen journalist umbrella movement. And the focus for me, I want to do this. I want to go into the Islamic Republic of Sweden, the Islamic Republic of Norway, the Islamic Republic of Denmark, Islamic Republic of France. And I want to take each country, because it's what people need to look at. And when you look at each country, starting whether it be 50 years ago, and just show the growth in the building of mosques, the growth in the Islamic community, the growth in crime, the growth, literally you're going to have graphs that just go like this. They're all identical. They're all identical. So the more Muslims are less freedom, the more Muslims are the more rape, the more Muslims are more crime. It's just a reality. It's just a fact. So, and what Steve Laws,

what I find, what I find, and I've just, as I said, I've just been to Tenerife and I met a Hindu couple there, lad called Namib. Lovely guy, very successful. His wife runs a pharmacy. They both spoke to me about how how worried they were about Islam and about what's happening in their town and their city and how everything's been great for them growing up. They grew up all, they grew up as minorities in predominantly white cities, but they were loved and they were welcomed in and they become British. I'm talking to this man. Yeah, he's got brown skin, but he's talking to me as a British lad. He's just talking to me as a British lad, a proud British lad. He's like, what's happening to our country? What's happening? Now, the difference is

I've met so many lads like that growing up, who I love. Yeah? who I have deep friendships with, whether it be through my football scene in Luton, my school friendships, or I'm still all in the group chats, I'm friends with, I love them, yeah, and they're great,

hardworking people, and they're great, and they're British lads. And, you know, if you sat them down and said, where are you from to the black, that's say, I'm English. I'm not saying I'm Jamaican,

that's how I'm English. I'm English. It's like Ian Wright. Steve Laws would deport Ian Wright. Mm-hmm. He said he would. Steve Laws, he said it deport Ian Wright. You know, for me,

it's just like, come on, man, come on. Come on. So I just don't agree with it. I don't agree with it. I think the amount of airtime Steve gets for who he's going to deport when in reality, the fucking little div ain't going to report anyone. And I'd love to see him have this conversation somewhere. I'd love to see him have this conversation somewhere outside of his studio because he talks about being a traitor and how he's brave. It's like, mate, step out and stand for what you stand for. If you really want to deport these people, start doing something about, I'll tell you what we'd up when we started

the English Defence League. When we started the English Defence League, 25 of us went into East London Tower Hamdis. And we confronted an IEF, Islamic form of Europe. We went to an Islamic form of Europe conference with 2,000 Muslims in it. And we turned up a bit, 25 of us. The reason why everyone knows the name English Defence League is we took it to them. We took it on the streets and we made sure you knew our name and you knew what we stood for. And not just you knew what. what he stood for but the Islamists knew what he stood for the jihadis knew what we stood for every one of them knew what we stood for because we stood proudly unashamedly against so what i'd say steve is if he wants to do all this stop just sitting down talking shit and go go and do

something me like and then let's see how much support you do have that's what that's what i'd say because i think people need to not get confused with comments on a youtube video and general public support. If you took your camera out, Dan, or anyone else, and went into city centres and asked who's Steve Laws, I think the very mass majority of them won't have any clue, yeah? So, yes, there's a core group of ethno-nationalists who want to deport everyone that's not white, who are supporting Steve Laws. But they're ethno-nationalists from across the globe. They would not put their faces, many of them are under fake IDs. And I also just don't think is, it's not reasonable, it's not legit, and it's not going to solve fuck all. It's going to cause absolute turmoil,

mayhem, you're going to break up and rip in half loving families who have done nothing wrong but integrate and assimilate and work hard for this country. So, yeah, I just don't support it at all. I do, but I do support the mass deportation of all illegal immigrants, of anyone on a jihadi watch list, of any criminal from any country, of all of these things. So I do support all that. Yeah, exactly. It's still millions of, millions of mass deportations, which is necessary, absolutely. Millions, and it's quite easily encouraged, because where was I just now?

Where have I just come back from? Who was I just whipped up a week? I was in Europe, and they said that they pay them $25,000. Yeah. They give the Syrians $25,000 to return to cereal because the longer effect is, I think they end up cost us $400,000. 100%.

That's part of the Restore Britain plan for mass deportations. I absolutely agree. I'm happy to pay. I'm happy to pay to get these people out. That is one of the ways to start remigration. Now, Nick Lowell is a terrible force in this country. You probably haven't heard of him. But he runs a crooked and corrupt organization called Hope Not Hate.

And his latest attack on Tommy Robinson is to claim that he was one of the country's biggest drug dealers. Now, this happened after Tommy posted on X, 73,000 Americans dead, because of very many, Venezuela's drug imports. Trump warned him time and time again to deal with it, taking out Maduro is America first. Lolls replied, saying Tommy Robinson pretending to be anti-drugs. For many years, he was one of Luton's main cocaine dealers. And Tommy responded when you refuse someone tick. Now, these two, of course, have a long history, a long beef. This is what happened, when Tommy actually confronted Nick about some of his dodgy work. Father to father, do you think it's fair that you put a picture of my children's home online

when you know people want to kill him and rape him? No one's identified that home. No, you put a picture of my children's home online. You have. And you have. And you doorstepped, my partner. No, I didn't doorstep by that. Your people, no, not my people.

The woman who was scared in her home doorstep to your partner because you put a picture of her home online and then turned up there. looking for me, which you're aware of, because she contacted you multiple times. You didn't take her house down. Why did you take it down once your wife told you to take it down? Why did you then delete the picture of her house? Because you know it was wrong, Nick. You pay three. I've got evidence for seven sources you've created. You pay them. When that story comes out. When that story comes out. You pay them, you blackmail them. I know you've got the media waiting to run your stories. I know you have. I know you have. I know you

have. Because you, that's what your job is. Your job is to create the source, create a lie, and then the media wait there and pump it. Yeah. That's what you do. And I'm exposing you for it in a documentary. No one's going to trust you. You paid Tom Foley. Are you going to deny paying him? You paid Andrew H. You create your sources of information. That's a little demon drows though, isn't it? Sweaty mess of a man. Now when Michelle asked Grogue whether Tommy Robinson has ever been charged with supplying drugs, it responded saying no, he has not been charged or convicted of supplying drugs. Claims to the contrary, appeared to stem from a mix-up with a co-defendant's 2014 conviction in his mortgage fraud case. His record includes assault, fraud, and contempt, but no drug offences.

Tommy then replied saying, Shall I sue the rat, with the Grift Report weighing in saying, Do it for the good of all mankind? But Nick Loll's doubled down. Writing overnight, for all those people urging Tommy Robinson to sue me for calling him a former drug dealer, I've got some bad news for you. I'm only repeating a claim I made in detail in my phone. book Tommy, which was published in 2022. He didn't sue then and he won't sue now. Tommy,

your response? My response is that Nick Lowell's has become irrelevant. He's trying to get some relevance. He's trying to bring the focus back to himself and his book and allegations. And I don't really think, I'm giving the steam off my piss, if I'm honest, that I think Nick's back there now. Nick used to be here. We used to be here. He used to be in front of us. used to be having an effect on us. We've just steamrolled him. See you out of it. Fuck off.

Goodbye. Okay. Hope my hate. You're irrelevant. So should I tie myself up in years of court problems? Should I ask the public to fund a court campaign? To be honest, I want to stay out of court, man. And when Nick says stuff like this, for me, it's just digging his own grave.

It's like, mate, everyone, there's lots of labels I've had. There's lots of allegations against me. But one of the biggest cocaine dealers is just ridiculous. it's fucking ridiculous so i just think with nick um yeah do you know what he done let me tell you what he done so i don't i looked in my documentary nick went to loo and what he done is because in order to publish stuff and it's a very well-oiled machine what i hope i do and they target they docks we know that they make people scared so if you're working in a certain job or career they contact your HR company. They are a campaign group who I believe are part of MI5. I believe they are the government.

They receive funding from the government. If you look at who chairs on the organisation, it's always members of parliament. They've always got members of parliament as their heads. So if you go through the website now, look, there'll be Labour, members of parliament. They are really embedded within the deep state. So they act where the police can't. So for example, the police or the newspapers. So if the newspapers come to me, they can't pay me for an they can't sit me down and say, Tommy, there's 10,000 pounds, sit and tell us loads stuff about Nick about Nick rolls. Then I tell them loads of bullshit because they pay me 10 grand and they print it. The newspapers can't do that. So I hope not hate, step in to avoid

and they go in and they get people. And I'll prove this in my documentary. I'll prove seven different people, even not stories about me, but about other people. They'll go to someone. Say, for example, they approach my ex-colleges and they offer them money. And they don't care, they tell them what to say, you know, sit there and say this. So then when that person sits and gives an interview, making false allegations, whether they be sexual, criminal, financial. Whatever it is, when that person makes the allegations, Nick Lowell's has the army, or used to have the army, used to is the best word here. He has the army, the media sat waiting, and then that media come in and they pump the stories. So whenever Hope Not Hate used to do an investigation or a

study or a think tank document, whatever they used to do, and whoever they used to name, every national newspaper. I'm not just saying what, all of them, used to then serial and run the story. All of them. Not any more. Not any fucking more, yeah? So they used to. So when Nick Lowell's wrote this book about me called Tommy, Sex, Drugs and Violence, makes me sound like a fucking rock star. It makes, I put it in the group chat, said, I'm a fucking rock star. I put in a group show. But when he wrote it, what he did, he went to Luton, and I was so shocked, and he'd mix it when I

confront him. There's a Gambino gang. There's a Pakistani gang called the Gambinos. Now, I'm very honest about my upbringing about my youth. We fought them for years. As young Luton football hooligans, white and black lads, we had clashes with this gang on the streets, in the nightclubs, in the bars, outside of the bars. We would clash with them. It started when I first held my demonstrations, a young 20-year-old lads and I held a demonstration called Ban, the Luton Taliban. I was in targeted, not just by the extremists, but by the drug gangs. Now the problem for the drug gangs was at football on a Saturday, there'd be 50 of us, yeah? Well, we could galvanise 50 men from all go to football together on a Saturday and who all used to be not quite fair for a punch-up, yeah?

So we had classes with this Pakistani gang. We target, I wrote a leaflet, which ended up on the front page of our local newspapers. I show you this in my Oxford Union presentation. And I write the leaflet where I name the Gambino gang. I name them. I named their shops and their businesses that are used to ferry. money to pump herring out of and in the in the leaflet that i wrote in 2004 yeah i say they used drugs as a weapon in order to prostitute um to paedophilic prostitute our youth so in a leaflet in 2004

i told everyone in my town front page and they printed the entire leaflet in the front page of papers yeah but i done it bare face i done it as me stephen linner Stephen yexley i done it as me so the result was fucking ill man the time that lights were on me yeah because i've drawn real attention again And then we didn't really back down to them. So we had five of them. Now, what Nick's done is Nick come to Luton, I was so shocked. Nick went and sat down with the Gambinos. Now, in 2008, a national newspaper, forget which one, you can Google it.

Google Gambino's Luton drugs. Google that, you'll find the National Newspaper article. Now, in that National newspaper article, they run a story, the Nationals did, four years after my demonstration, saying that the Gambino Gang of Luton, 100 strong Pakistani mob who deal heroin and pimp and prostitute girls, that that gang funds terrorists and jihadists. So they put the two together. They said the street-level violent gangs are working with the terrorist gangs. Oh, hello!

I told you that in 2004, lad, you should have just listened. I've done your job four years prior. But because I done the job four years prior, they all turned their, they shot me. Now, when Nick Loll has come to Luton writing his book, Tommy, who did he go to see as his witnesses? So when he says, I have a source of information, his source is, with the Gambinos. So he went and sat down with the Gambinos, a Pakistani game. And he said to him, tell me everything about Tommy Robinson. Now, obviously, they're going to say everything and

anything he wants them to say. He then uses those statements and those witness statements from drug lords, from gangsters. He uses them to then write what he wants in his book. So if I was to sue him, he then produces in court a source of the information who has to be hidden and protected because of me and my dangers. And that source of the information is a load of scumbag herringdeen in Pakistani mob, pimping little wrongans from Luton who have hated me way before the English defense league. Totally. And you know what?

This is why it is so important to expose hope not hate. It's why I've done a lot of work exposing byline times as well. Because what these hard left organisations do is rely on criminals. They are the ones relying on criminals. and very bad people wrongens to try and back up their false claims. It's really disturbing. One other person I wanted to ask you about Tommy, though, because this has been going viral lately, is Matt Goodwin.

Someone who you clashed with in the past, someone who has had a bit of a damascene conversion on lots of issues, including Islam, now a GB News presenter, now someone who wants to be a Reform UK MP. Do you trust Matt Goodwin, given that he did used to be one of the guys who was attacking people like you? I think Matt Goodwin is brilliant. He was opposed to us. I think that when I watch him and listen to him, he can really bring people around.

He's doing a great job in his commentary, in his work. Let's have it. if he would have come out with any of the things he's saying now 13 and 15 years ago whenever we sat down and had that clash if he would have come out of those things now he would have lost his job as a university professor I'm not saying it's right

I'm not saying it's right or it's wrong or what's brought him to where it's brought him to now what I'm saying is if I look at his content from now and what he's saying and what he's doing it's very positive in awakening the nation to the dangers and the friends so I'm not going to sit here and what we have to do is

remember lots of people started here and ended up here lots in fact most people yeah my inboxes are full of people who hated me and then now here yeah Matt's gone through whatever his own journey is probably I'll say get him on and ask him what brought him around what changed his mind what changed his opinion but it was he was obviously heavily um on the other side in that one interview that you see oh which is when my answer and that was 2012 so what's that 13, 14 years ago? 13, 40 years ago. My thing is that I get a bit frustrated about is just think,

and I did have a bit of a bitter pill, which I just had to swallow enough swallowed it, because we've been wanting people like Matt Goodwin, we've been wanting the professors, the academics, to come out and start awakening and talking. So when they do, I don't think we should be condemning them on any of their past comments.

That's what I think. No, that's very respectful of you, and I have a lot of respect. for that. Actually, I think Matt Goodwin is good as well. Actually, I just sometimes think he's shilling a bit too much for Reform UK because he wants that seat. But I think ideologically, he is very sound. Now, Mike Graham, who has launched his new independent media show this week, has once again come for Tommy Robinson in quite an extraordinary way. In fact, Maya Toosie of Toosy TV, who has been close to Mike in the past, called him out over this, saying Mike Graham's war

on Tommy Robinson continues for only egotistical reasons. Now Tommy is going to respond to this new attack in just one moment, but first, this is what Mike Graham had to say. Right, last one. Tommy Robinson. Oh, Tommy Robinson. Tommy Robinson. Mike of the decade. Well, I'm sure he'd love me to say something terrible about him because he seems to feed off the fact that, you know, he wants me to apologise to him or debate him or something, you know, and all of his mates are constantly saying, so sorry to Tommy, you know, you've called him names. Well, the last time I saw him on social media talking about, he called me a pedo. He's called me all sorts of other nasty names. I don't really mind. He doesn't bother me.

I don't like the guy. I think he's a horrible little wanker. And I'm never going to change my view. You can support the movement without having to support. Well, it's not really a movement. This is the movement appears to exist in order for him to go and live in Spain, drive around in Bentley's with $13,000 with a cash in his pocket, which he claims he's putting in, you know, he's the guy is a grifter. And, you know, I don't object to what he does,

but I object to what he pretends to be, I would say that. He doesn't really tear. He talks about being a patriot. He doesn't even live here. Yes. Neither do it is the most loyal supporters. No. Most of them all have moved away and lived somewhere else.

Don't pay tax. You know, don't do anything which is in any way relatable to what ordinary people's lives are like in this country. And he sort of flies in every now and he gets over a rally. And he's got a lot of support and, you know, good luck to him. But, you know, he's quite capable of looking after himself. And I'm never going to debate it because what's the point? no it's just further divide people anyway but i wouldn't even give him the honor of becoming a plank of decades to be honest all right well that's a that's a little wild card and mike also responded to my

too so he saying hey my i used to call me the godfather of free speech you know i gave you your start tommy is a complete charlatan and you know it so he's doubling down even though he has gone independent, Tommy. Are you surprised? I think we need to remember what this is about. What caused this? A very, a young child close to me, okay, there's legalities around what I can and can't say around this. I appreciate that. A young child close to me was eight years old. She was sexually assaulted. A man was charged for that sexual assault. And Mike Graham used that opportunity and weaponized

that opportunity to attack me at that time, say that I wanted it to happen somehow. I wanted somehow a very young eight-year-old child close to me to be sexually assaulted and then I was projecting it and using it. That's what he'd done. Now remember that when this girl was sexually assaulted at holiday park in the UK, the man wasn't arrested. I was

arrested for detainment. So I was arrested. The man's phone wasn't taken. Nothing was searched. Only when the police watched the CCTV next day and saw the young child running and legged it crying from the swimming pool. Only then did they then arrest him.

Bit late then, because the man was not with any women, not with any children, who was with two other men at a children's holiday park in a swimming pool. Yeah? What the fuck was he doing there anyway? But they lost the opportunity to detain the phones, to seize the phones, to see what they were up to. Whether they're taking pictures of kids, whether they were just

walking around fondling kids in the swimming pool, whatever that fucking wrongman was doing. That's what he was doing that at a swimming pool, and he targeted a very young girl close to me. Now, Mike Graham, weaponised that and mocked it. So I'm sitting there watching that scumbag mock the sexual assault of an eight-year-old child that I love, yeah, that I know. So I watch that. So let's remember what this is about, because that's

what's fucking about, yeah? And if Mike Graham at the time, how old was Mike Graham? Because really, what I should have done when a man does that, as a man-to-man, I should have ironed him out, because it's what he's saying about, about that child, yeah? So that's what he done. he rublished sexual assault claims from an eight-year-old fucking child that's what he done and i'm still enraged about it now thinking about it i think look at him sitting there making it if he wants to sit and argue with me no you're wronging you stood on the side of a fucking nonce that sexually assaulted a child that's what you done you know and you listen to the video of the little eight-year-old girl talking about what happened to her and then you mocked it that's what he done

That's what he done. So this isn't about plank of the week, plank of the decade. He's right, he's wrong. He stood on the side of a nonce. That's what he done. And he done that to score political points against me. And he didn't give a shit about that little child. And that's what done my head did.

So when it comes down to it, at the time everyone condemned him for what he said, he doesn't want to talk about what he said. That's what he said. Forget about your war, whatever you think about me. This isn't about, and I don't think he's got to apologize to me. Yeah? I think he should apologize about the child that he mocked. so an eight-year-old girl is sexually assaulted

and he mocked it he mocked it he used his platform to fucking mock it excuse my French again man I'm sorry but him and then he sits there once pretend this is all about oh he does see no you no if your daughter if someone close to you if something happened

someone close to you and I started making videos laughing and mocking it you'd have an opinion on it so it's nothing to do with and in fact I actually up until that point and still all think Mike Graham's are good and it's good that he's come out of the mainstream. It's good. He says, set up his own YouTube. It's good. He's going to war with the fucking media. It's all

good. It's all good. But I have, what my problem with him is, is that. And when he appeared on Outspoken, because look, I think Mike is great in so many ways, but when he did his first interview on Outspoken, I made it clear that we differed, obviously

when it came to you, suggested that maybe I host a debate, played your video to give him an opportunity to apologise, but clearly he is doubling down. He doesn't want to talk about it. He don't want to talk about what this is about. This has got nothing to do with me

saying he's shit or me mocking him or anything like. It's to do with him standing on the side of a non-su sexually assaulted a child, a man that was prosecuted and charged by the police afterwards and him about to do with him listening to a little child, give her account on camera, and then mocking it. That's what it's to do with. But nothing else. That's what it's to do with.

He did make some pretty major claims, though, in that new interview, Tommy, which I do think you should have an opportunity to respond to. I mean, he's described you as a grifter, described you as a charlatan, spoke about your arrest and seemed to suggest that because you were traveling with cash, you were in some way doing something wrong. Now, what a lot of people don't know is that you have been debanked in the United Kingdom. it's not rocket science it was the 27th july was our demonstration yeah our mass demonstration where we had a mass bucket campaign to raise money donations come in support us blah blah blah blah 13000 pounds it's very because there's all these rumors at 48 grand was raised you can see what was raised because the police i was in the car and then when i sat down with the police and the other thing is he's driving this car it was a the invoice the ownership of everything for that car

because i was transporting the car i got paid to deliver the car I was delivering the car for a friend. It wasn't my car. It's very evident it wasn't my car. It was a £49,000 car that wasn't mine. Yes, I was driving it. And to Mike Graham, Mike, no one's ever smashed your house up, have they? Has anyone ever threatened to kill your family? What about terrorists? There's any terrorists in jail serving 30 years because they were going to blow you up and kill you for the work you do? Probably not, Mike, so you can probably quite comfortably with your fat, overweight mess, sit in your house in the UK, wherever it happens to be. But some of us need safety. Some of us need sanity. When Mike walks down the streets, I'm sure people don't want to fight him, confront him, or anything like that. I'm sure he doesn't get too much bother, being Mike Graham, yeah, being Mike Graham. And Mike's been late to the show. Let's remember that. Remember, 13 years ago, a bit like Matt Goodwin, 13 years ago, it was pretty difficult to have this fight. In fact, it was very difficult. As I said, there's six Muslims serving 30 years who got caught with guns and bombs on the way to kill us. Al Shabab, named me in a terrorist video to be

killed. I've had the police knock on my door 12 times with Osmond warnings to sit me and my family down, including my wife, to tell her that she's going to get attacked with acid. So whilst Mike makes her, oh, it doesn't live in the UK, I don't live anywhere. That's the reality. I don't actually live anywhere. I live out of a suitcase. I've just come back again. I'll be somewhere else tomorrow. I'll be in another house the next day. That's how I have to live. And I have to live that way, because I've took a stance and stood by it, Mike. Yeah? So I'm sure if Mike got one, terrorist threat, if his wife got a knock on the door and said she was going to get a tap of acid unless he shuts his mouth, I'm pretty certain that fat mess would shut his

mouth. So don't condemn me for trying to survive and fight this fight. The reality is I've got the police breathing down the, I've got the courts breathing down the door for 100 grand. So when he says grifting, I haven't got fucking anything. I haven't got anything, you muck. Nothing. I don't have a single possession. Because that was something Steve Laws also claimed in his interview with Andrew gold. He suggested that you were some type of secret millionaire, Tommy. In 2021, I had my bankruptcy investigation where I was declared bankrupt. When you declare bankrupt, they investigate every penny everywhere, which is what they did with me. They went back 12 months. They went back six years. But for 12 months, you've

been locked in a bankruptcy. And if I'm honest, Daniel, Dan, you'll probably see another bankruptcy investigation coming soon because I don't have $187,000. Because of the fact that the government are coming after you even though you were jailed. You know where this comes from that. This comes from hoping, hey, it's the whole millionaire, millionaire, millionaire, they just repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat it. And then whankers like Mike Graham or wankers like Steve Laws,

pick it up and then just use it with no evidence. It's like they say, oh, he's got mass funding from Israel. Where is it? Show us. Show us one shred evidence other than she said. Show us one single bit of evidence. Bearing in mind that that that might. mug you're looking at now on that camera, spent

$200,000 on a private investigation. So if you Google, Google, hope not hate, stop Tommy Robinson bankruptcy. So when I was declared bankrupt, two months before I was cleared of bankruptcy, he and his group took over and privately funded £200,000 to

investigate the hidden millions. And even your son has now been debanked, Tommy. So again, Mike Graham doesn't have to take his children to other countries to set up bankups. Mike Graham doesn't have to,

but he'll condemn anyone else that does. So I even sit now and think where, even looking at my chip kids, thinking, what sort of life are they going to have here? What's sort of life they're going to have here? Work. They're going to get jobs. They're going to be accepted. They're going to be safe. Mike doesn't have to think any of those things. That's the reality.

So Mike can condemn me all he wants. He's picking the wrong fighting. I don't want to be sitting here fighting with Mike Graham. I don't want to be sitting here fighting with Steve Laws either. I don't want to be sitting here. fine with anything. I want to be tackling, highlighting. Totally. Now, and it's such a shame. It is such a shame because we don't need this division. We do not need this division. And that's where I have a lot of respect for Tommy being magnanimous. Even today, in terms of Mike Graham, saying that he's happy that he's launched this YouTube show and certainly in terms of

Matt Goodwin, he used to be one of his critics. Now, this one is extraordinary. This one is extraordinary. Did you see this? Tommy Robinson, let me show you the video. Lily Phillips, You know Lily Phillips, right? You've got to know Lily Phillips. Here she is being baptized last week. Lots of people thought that this video might be AI, might not be real, may have been some sort of new pornography film, but no, in a statement, which has just been provided to Newsweek, Lily Phillips said, I'm really looking forward to strengthening and growing my relationship with God and opening up conversations about how only fan girls are multifaceted. I hate that we are pigeonholed as 2D sex dolls. It can be really dehumanizing. There might be Christians who disagree with my lifestyle, but I just want to read. rebuild my relationship with God, and I think we should all be welcoming conversations and opportunities for people to explore religion in a way that's right for them. And she went further in a new interview. What? No, no, not all. Do you think there's a God? No. Okay. Do you believe that there's a heaven

after we die? No, no, no, not all. Do you think there's a God? No. Okay. I do believe in a higher power, we're not God. So like a creator for the universe? No. I believe it's evolution. An asteroid came into the Earth and that's how to create the Big Bang. That's what I believe in. It's scientifically proven. But where do those asteroids come from? They would have to come from somewhere, right? Well, they come from Space, babe. All right. Now, what do you think of Jesus?

Jesus. I mean, you know what? I leave everyone to believe what they believe in and I respect that. That's fine. But it's not something I personally believe in. Okay. Do you think he was real then? No. Really? Not even a real historical figure? No. I don't think anything can save me. Really? No. Is it because you think you're too bad? Is that why or not?

No, no. I mean, to be honest, I don't think anything I do is controversial bad. So since that interview, Tommy, she's had a total U-turn. But do you think this is a publicity stunt? And how do you feel we should be dealing with Lily Phillips and Bonnie Blue in our space, in our conservative media world where a lot of people, including like your close mate, great guy, Liam Tafts, and people like Julia Hartley Brewer and Andrew Gold, have all given big platforms to these porn stars. What's your take?

Ellie Phillips is now been baptized, wanting to live a Christian life, realizing she needs a positive impact on life. I think we should encourage it. I think that she is, if she seems the error of her ways, if she's now leaving that life behind and wanting to, turn over a new leaf and live a Christian life, then I think that that should be celebrated. I don't think we should be celebrating Bonnie Blue or the life she lived before that, but I think that if someone sees that they've been on the wrong path in life, I want to get baptized,

I need to get baptized. I should have been baptized when I was in Israel and Jordan River. That's what I should have done. So I think that anyone wanting a fresh start in life and wants to wash away their sins as such, I think that should have been encouraged. I don't think whatever Lily Phillips has done I didn't know who she was, just Googled it now so I had no idea who she was even watching that interview

but just googled it now so she was a porn star but if she's, I don't know what age she's at oh she's only 24 years old but she still is a porn star I mean this is what's interesting is it possible to have a life where you're selling yourself on Only fans and being Christian

are those two things compatible I don't think so but I thought I just saw there she's leaving her career behind well it's interesting she well since her baptism she's still apparently posting all of this content

she's still running the only fans so that's what's really complicated but it is part of a wider point Tommy and you've seen this and actually I've discussed this with Karen Dwyer and Reverend Cannon

Father Phil Harrison Rickie Doolin Father Calvin Robinson a whole load of religious figures who are highly supportive of you Tommy who are being attacked now by the mainstream media for encouraging your supporters to turn to Christianity. I mean,

this has now been a campaign run by Sly News and the British Bashing Corporation. You would think in a Christian country, people turning to Christianity, especially young people, especially your young supporters, would be a positive thing. But it's something the mainstream media trying to turn into something negative. I just had a message. from Ricky. Great guy. This morning. Yeah, brilliant.

I'd say, thank you for opening the gates to me. And there was a video of him baptising more people. And he basically said the gates have been opened by so many people

and now contacted him to be baptised. How anyone can throw any sort of negative spin on that where people want to change their life? And I said, I realised it in prison when I was reading the Bible,

reading about Christianity, that if you want to live a positive and healthy and clean and decent life, it's living a Christian life. And that's something I've struggled with myself and I think that

how anyone can put a negative spin on that and the thing is the sad thing for the church is they're going to be left behind in fact you can hear my rant here do you want to hear my rant? Always because I just got my head back on me my working heads come back on now and it's come back on from just having

the time to be away from this, I put this away, have a week just walking across the hiking through Maui going in the gym every day, sitting down calmly. And there you go. Look, thank you, Tommy, for connecting us with all these people. Now they're getting into with the Lord Jesus.

God is using you, brother, keep firing. And then that's the latest video of him. And that was that. So Ricky sent me that this morning. How anyone could put any sort of positive negative, like, where's my little around? I think this is probably is, is it? Can we, then, I know the Christmas team were in here,

can we put in the application for May 16th? that's not it well somewhere somewhere i went in and said lads right right now because we always are a bit last minute we need to start planning next year's christmas event yes that christmas celebration that we had with the gospel span with the singing with sky especially the girl that sang it felt i felt something and i and again in this week in my last week i was looking you i always go mad on my physical fitness yeah but i think that unless you have physical emotional, spiritual. It's like, there's four, it's like if you had the keypad, you know, the, a, say like a padlock

with a four pin coat, if you don't get all four of them, if you don't get all of the part, so I go mad on my fitness to try and make myself feel right and feel better. So I go mad and I get up and I start training and I think, yeah, this is it, this is it. But if I don't also counteract the spirituality, which is church, which is Christianity, emotion, emotion my emotions understanding my emotion so i try and address all those things and it's never going to be right unless i address all of them so i think that spirituality and christianity and church and higher power like that girl originally said was a higher power i think that people have been pushed away from christianity made to feel that it's sort of mocked made to feel they should be

ashamed if they said they're a christian and i think all that's going to turn people are going to and seeing silly lily phillips now getting baptized for me that's positive that's positive if she changes her life good luck to her she's only a young girl who knows what put her in the path we all have lived different lives who knows what brought her to where she brought her to to with morals and values i've been immoral i've been uh throughout my life so i'm not one to fucking sit and preach but i would like saving like everyone else and i think that christianity and being baptized and getting to church. And in fact, it's something I'm going to try and do this someday for the first time. And I promised Ricky so many times, I message him saying,

I'm going to come to church and I don't end up going. But I think it can only be positive. And I think that many people should start remembering who we are and where we come from. And that it's a Christian culture and a Christian identity. And we can't moan about this being a Christian country. Unless we actually... No, exactly. Exactly. Now look, finally, Tommy, the big news, of course, Wads that announcement, May 16th. I know you hope Elon Musk might attend you TK in person, perhaps, but what else are you expecting?

Can it be bigger? I mean, can it be bigger? It was so huge. Well, we're sat down with the team this week. Again, I've just been firing in on all cylinders. So on the planning for this event. But we want, I think we need 13 screens. last time we have i think we need 13 i think we need section off which we've got so much to go

so what we're doing now by the 19th 20th of this month we're working on a vision not just a 12-month vision so people say what does a protest do well we're going to show you what that's because this protest is not just a protest the protests and the cultural side of the movement are part of a cultural awakening in great britain it's part of finding the 20 million that didn't vote and it's about directing them and politicise them, which is what a cultural movement should be doing, identity, bringing in identity. But we want to mix the cultural movement with the media movement,

which I don't think is just a British issue. It's far bigger than that. So we've been speaking with names in different countries, saying, listen, we want to work a plan, a four-year plan, and a four-year vision for our movement. So that, yes, we have the United Kingdom, but then we also have an umbrella new media that works independently as citizens

but brings, see, I look a lot of these citizen journalists that are outside hotels, they're going to need help. Not just need help, training, support and help. And I think some of them are doing fabulous, incredible work. And I don't want to take away their work or they can still build their own channels, but I'd like to see something that unites and brings them all together where we have an army of citizen journalists. And those army as citizen journalists are working alongside a cultural street movement

in each country across Europe that's working together, that then are supporting in the work and content they do, the new populist parties which are going to rise to power, whether it be supporting them with their political work or their investigations that they're doing or investigations into the opposition parties. So there's lots to do. We've got so many ideas on,

I've got so many documentaries I want to make, we just do not have the resources or the team or the size of the team to build this. We're working on a four-year vision, and then we're going to present that four-year vision to lots of people and say, listen, you want to see what we've done in the last 24 months, built a mass movement

we've changed changed the debate changed the culture of the UK watch what's what we do in four years so we've got lots going on man lots going on but it's not a big enough team

Dan not a big enough team no I know well look it's going to be huge it's going to be huge and you know you have my full support here on outspoken of course of course we will be covering it live it was massive

the last broadcast and as you know, I think it's so important that we prove to the mainstream media that this is an event that can be covered independently and deserves to be. It was still really disturbing to me that GB News, for example, didn't run one second of your interview with Elon Musk. So I hope next time they're braver. But the great thing is, is people don't need mainstream media. And why it was so important, I think, for me to cover independently, Unite the Kingdom, is that, look, if there was trouble. Of course, I'm a journalist. I would cover it. I would be honest about it. But there simply wasn't. And so for the mainstream media to focus on a tiny small number of people outside of

the event just shows you that they were not prepared to cover it honestly. You know, I've just been, as I said, I've just been away for five, six days. And everywhere I walked, all everyone spoke to me about was that they were there, realized that everywhere I walked. We were there. We're coming next time. So what we need to do with your help, Dan is get May 16th, the day, X. And people say why that long away, why that long away? I don't have people realise the organisation that has to go into it. And also, if you want to really make a big, fucking bold statement,

you're giving everyone enough time to make their plans to be there. I'm hearing of other groups and people that are going to be camping out and staying there on that date. We're going to be doing our event, United Kingdom. But if there was a date for a revolution in Great Britain, it's going to be May 16th. Amazing. Well, look, Tommy Robinson, our greatest Britain in 2020. Thank you so much for being here for your first major interview of the new year.

And of course, May the 16th, Unite the Kingdom. And we will be covering it closely in the run up. Thank you so much, Tommy. Happy New Year to you and your family. Now, because of the special edition of the show, there will be no Greatest Britain or Union Jackass revealed today. But we will be back tomorrow. However, we are moving over to Substack now for the uncannable.

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