Dan Wootton Outspoken - TOMMY ROBINSON SUES NIGEL FARAGE FOR CLAIMING HE IS WOMAN BEATER IN DRAMATIC COURT FEUD

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Tommy Robinson SUES Nigel Farage in a dramatic escalation in the right-wing war between the Unite the Kingdom activist and Reform UK leader who falsely claimed on air at LBC radio that the then incarcerated political prisoner was a woman beater. The MSM is, of course, ignoring this story, but we’ll reveal the full letter Tommy has sent to Nigel overnight – and outline his demands. In his Digest Dan says it is also very clear, despite the regime media and deep state obsession with cancelling him, that Tommy Robinson is not the enemy and Nigel’s decision to go for him was wrong. We’ll also examine the growing war over Reform UK’s new candidate, a Boriswave Bangladeshi immigrant. Then analysis from Connor Tomlinson – the host of the brilliant independent commentary show Tomlinson Talks on YouTube. PLUS: Andrew Pierce is axed by Woke ITV as a host of Good Morning Britain after a decade as rumours swirl about growing allegations against the Daily Mail columnist and GB News host. AND: A shocking on air emergency on LBC as Andrew Marr appears to suffer from a new health incident. We’ll play you the horrifying broadcast. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Queen Camilla and King Charles make their most dramatic split from Prince William with a Christmas public olive branch to the treacherous Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. That royal bombshell and much more with YouTube sensation P-Dina. To watch the Uncancelled After Show for exclusive extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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who falsely claimed on air at LBC Radio that the then-incarcerated political prisoner was a woman-beater. Robinson's talked about this, but he has a criminal. criminal record, a list as long as your arm, violence, violence against women. I mean, I could go on, Nick. So the MSM is of course ignoring this story, but we are going to reveal the full letter that Tommy has sent to Nigel overnight and outline his demands. It's also very clear, by the way, that despite the regime media and deep state obsession with canceling him, that Tommy Robinson is not the enemy, not Farage's enemy. And the decision by Reform UK to go for

him was wrong. I want illegal migrants mass deported. I want criminals mass deported. And I want problematic Muslims who wish to overthrow democracy and replace it with Sharia. They want them gone. I want the 40,000 Ontario watch list. Half of them have got dual nationality. They've got go. I want any of them that step out of line in our country. I think we need to stop pretending it's everyone's country. It's Britain. What's the problem with that, Nigel? So in my digest next, we'll get into all of that and examine the growing war over Reform UK's new candidate, a Boris Wave Bangladeshi immigrant.

Then analysis from Connor Tomlinson, the host of the brilliant independent news and comment show Tomlinson talks on YouTube. Also coming up on the show today, Nigel Farage and Reform UK launch a rival podcast network to GB News. Andrew Pearce is axed by Woke ITV. as host of Good Morning Britain after a decade, as rumours swirl around growing allegations against the Daily Mail columnist and GB News host, and a shocking on-air emergency on LBC, as Andrew Ma appears to suffer from a new health incident, we'll play you the horrifying broadcast. Also, Elon Musk says he now cannot leave the house since the shooting of Charlie Kirk.

That's disturbing too, so we've got a whole load to get to today. Then in the uncannceded after show over on substack, Queen Camilla and King Charles. make their most dramatic split from Prince William with a Christmas public olive branch to the treacherous Prince Harry and Megan Markle, that royal bombshell and so much more with YouTube sensation P Diner. You can sign up to watch after the main show

at www.outspoken.live. And because it's Friday, we're also going to be revealing the worst Britain in the world this week. That's your Union Jackass nominees from Monday to Thursday going head to head and you can vote right now in the post.

tab on YouTube. Last time I looked, we'd already had over 50,000 votes today. There are your nominees from Monday, Angela Rainer, from Tuesday, Piers Morgan, from Wednesday, Hugh Edwards, and from Thursday, Jeremy Vine. So who is going to take that crown? Will it be Piers Morgan? Will it be another? We haven't decided yet. You can vote right now, and I'll read out your comments at the end of the show too. But now, let's go. The growing war and divide on the British right, symbolised by Nigel Farage's disdain for Tommy Robinson and his Unite the Kingdom movement, is heading to court. In January, when Tommy was incarcerated, an HMP Woodhill as Britain's number one political prisoner, and Elon Musk was bringing international attention to his disgusting persecution by the British Deep State, the reform UK leader went on LBC and said this. Robinson's talked about this, but he has a criminal record, a list as long as your arm, violence, violence against women.

I mean, I could go on, Nick. And all I'm saying is, look, Mr. Robinson, do what the hell you like. We are totally separate from that. If I was to embrace, as it looks like I was being urged to do, the sort of violent, thuggish people like Robinson, that would do our party immense harm. and probably rightly so, actually. So the fact that I've stood up on a point of principle, even if in the short term it's to my detriment,

kneel in the long run may even work in our favour. Problem for Nigel Farage, that simply wasn't true. Tommy has no convictions for violence against women. As far as I'm aware, no allegations. While he was silenced behind bars, his lovely and ever-loyal ex-wife, who has actually raised their kids brilliantly, by the way, despite the fact that they are now being hunted down by the deep state with their

16-year-old son just debanked in the past week. Well, she was outraged, and she released a statement that insisted, I have never, ever been assaulted or abused by Stephen ever in my life. There has never been a call to the police about violence towards me or any other woman for that matter. Stephen, and she's, of course, talking about Tommy, has never ever been charged or accused of violence towards me or any other woman. Those lies have to stop. Our children don't deserve to have these allegations thrown in their faces by their pairs or questioned about it in their friendship groups. Who the hell does Nigel Farage think he is? What gives him the right to spread lies and misinformation about my ex-husband? What gives him the right to upset my children with his false

allegations? The lies have to stop. They have to stop now. Nigel must apologize for what he has said, my children have endured enough lies and misrepresentations about their dad to last a lifetime. But there was no apology. There was no apology then, either publicly or behind the scenes, there remains no apology now. So overnight, Tommy had enough. He announced pre-action letter sent to Nigel Farage this evening. Enough as enough. I am entitled to the protection of the law as much as anyone else, and making false statements about me does harm and can actually put me in physical danger. The legal process will now have to take its course. I look forward to Mr. Farage's response. What's astonishing is that the entire mainstream media,

and by the way, we've checked, I mean, I'm talking about everyone, including GB News and Talk TV, have disgracefully ignored this story. Not one piece of, of coverage on it. But it is a seismic moment, and so I want to share the letter with you. From Tommy Robinson. He writes, Dear Mr Farage, this is a letter sent under the pre-action protocol for media and communications claims regarding a claim and defamation which I am considering bringing against you. Since the one-year limitation period under Limitation Act 1980 expires on the 7th of January, I would ask you to give this matter your urgent attention. You may wish to see you.

expert legal advice. The public know me by my pseudonym, Tommy Robinson. And so it was clear to any listener that you were talking about me. To give some examples, on the 1st of January 2025, Elon Musk posted why is Tommy Robinson in a solitary confinement prison for telling the truth? He should be freed, and those who covered up this travesty should take his place in that cell. The next day, free Tommy Robinson. Then on January 5th, once again, free Tommy Robinson now. The imputation conveyed by the words, he has a criminal record, a list as long as your arm, violence, violence against women. I mean, I could go on, Nick, is that I have one or more criminal convictions arising from my use of physical violence against a woman. The imputation is untrue. I do not have any convictions

for violence against women. This is a matter of public record. The statement you made on the 7th of January 2025 has done serious harm to my reputation and will continue to do so until you apologize. As regards the gravity of the imputation, leading the public to believe that I have committed a criminal offense, which I have not committed, is self-evidently a grave matter. Violence by men against women is seen as being particularly morally despicable as being an attack on the vulnerable. At the time of the statement you made, I was in prison, which made it harder for me to defend myself. I may commence proceedings, unless we can reach an agreed outcome, including an apology, in an agreed form of words via a pinned tweet and the payment of a summon damages. I appreciate that the Christmas period is coming up. If you need more time to take legal advice,

I would be willing to consider entering into a standstill agreement for a reasonable period of time. Look forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, aka Tommy Robinson. Well, shots fired. But Tommy actually then told his supporters he's not looking for an unnecessary legal case. This isn't about money, but rather the chance to clear his name. Angel told the country, I have convictions for violence against women. I simply cannot allow this lie to be taken as fact. There is zero truth in it. And I want my name cleared a simple correction

and apology to my family will do. And obviously Nigel should do that. I mean, there's no doubt he should do that. There is no criminal conviction. It was a lie. So Nigel should do that. That to me is unequivocal. But what's interesting to me is the wide. a point here. Because Nigel himself is now under sustained attack by his real enemies, the MSM and the political class who want to finish him off with smears about his time at school. Yet for much of this year, he has treated real conservatives and patriots like Tommy Robinson, like Rupert Lone, like Ben Habib, and indeed like this show, as the enemy. Now, Tommy's position, just like me, mine is mainstream. Not at all radical. Watch this new interview. Do you want Christians

for, I think minorities must deport. No part of that. No, I don't want, no. What about Jews? No. What about? No, I don't want individual Muslims mass deportee. I want illegal migrants mass deportee. I want criminals mass deported. And I want problematic Muslims who wish to overfrow democracy and replace it with Sharia. They want them gone. I want the 40,000 on terror watch list, half of them have got dual nationality, they've got to go. I want any of them that step out of line in our country. I think we need to stop pretending it's everyone's country. It's Britain. It's our country. These people who have come from Pakistan, they've come from Somalia, they're guests in our country. Your guests. And if you step out of line, just like the

United Arab Emirates do, they take their passports off them. Fuck about, you're going home, yeah? That is the policy we need to have. That's where we should be. And when you start addressing that, So when you're, to be clear, so when you're talking about mass deportation. I'm not talking about deporting, decent immigrants that have come here at all. I'm not talking about that. In fact, I'd fight for them, yeah? Totally, yeah. I'm not talking about round up every non-wise.

Tommy Robinson is not the enemy, Nigel Farage, as that interview makes clear. Who are the real enemies, who I think Reform UK should have spent the year targeting? I would argue it's cretons on the hard left like Owen Jones. vulnerable white girls being targeted by British-Pakistani grooming gangs. Now, that is the sort of thing you would have expected to read in BMP leaflets, and which not that long ago would actually have been condemned by Tory and Labour politicians alike, but we are in 2023, in the worst possible timeline. It's not true. It's really important to make this very, very clear. It isn't true.

Nowhere did I deny that British men of Pakistani origin had raped many white girls in, for example, Wotherham and Telford. These are horrific scandals, which are very much real, and it is not racist or untrue to talk about those scandals. So he's a real enemy of the state right, and a liar. But the problem is reform UK seems to be moving further to the left on an almost daily basis, not representing the millions of Tommy supporters who have quite simply had enough of the type of rubbish being spewed, the type of lies being spewed by the likes of Owen Jones. Also, we've had enough of stories like this, which Tommy rightly pointed out yesterday.

An Afghan illegal migrant has secured permission to remain in Britain despite answering, I don't know, 158 times when asked about his age. The invader, who has been granted anonymity, informed border force officers upon arrival that he was born in 2007, which would have made him 15 years old at the time. An upper tribunal judge has now accepted his claimed birth year as accurate, ruling in favour, despite significant inconsistencies in his testimony, during age assessment interviews. Indeed, reform's decision this week to confirm a Bangladeshi immigrant from the Boris wave will be standing as a candidate in next year's council elections has sparked consternation on the right. Restore Britain leader Rupert Lowe has hardened his position as a result, announcing only British people should be able to vote and stand in our elections. If I move to Bangladesh, I wouldn't expect to be

able to stand in their election. So why should a Bangladeshi be allowed to stand in a British election? No, not right. The law must change British elections for British people. Advance UK leader Ben Habib responded, this is Reform UK, the anti-immigration party recruiting immigrants, the right-wing party recruiting lefties, the anti-tory party recruiting Tories, the small state party increasing public spending, the lower tax party, tax cuts. The unionist party recruiting Scottish nationalists. If you want a complete mess made of the UK vote reform, if you want serious principled politics to save the UK vote advance. Now Lucy White, the conservative commentator who sparked this debate in the first place,

she raged, this is pure insanity. What business does a Bangladeshi named Adi Mo Asiduzezaman have to do with British politics? Absolutely nothing. He does not represent the native British people. Asidusaman recently arrived on a student visa and is not even a British citizen. This is a national security threat. The law must be changed to stop this nonsense. I stand by my point that only native British should be in UK politics. It's common sense, obviously. And Tommy has come down on her side of the argument, arguing, are you telling me? There wasn't an English man or woman that could have stood in his seat? Sold out again. Nigel hitting his diversity. Quoters, wake up Britain. Nigel has become the very establishment we opposed.

Now, reform critics have also said the party launched its Christian fellowship event this week, specifically to beat Tommy's long-announced UTK put the Christ back in Christmas event on Saturday. I'm here today in St. Michael's Church. in Cornhill, the city of London, for the launch of Christians for reform. Reform will always stand up for Christianity in this country. We are fundamentally a Christian country and we are proud to be Christians. And of course at this time of year with Christmas fast approaching, it's the perfect time to launch this interest group for reform.

But what's in no doubt whatsoever is that the witch hunt against Farage by the establishment is now heating up. the real enemies. Look at this week's Economist cover. Even more reason why Farage has to wake up and realize who his real enemies are. Those real enemies include the Deputy Prime Minister, David Lammy, who posted yesterday as Deputy Prime Minister, I'm focused on delivering for the British people and I tend to ignore the noise. Bullshit, you are the noise, you make the noise. But in the past week, I've been sent stories about a reformed mayoral candidate telling me to go home to the Caribbean where he said my loyalties lie, a reform councillor's TikTok account endorsing a comment calling me a greedy, thoroughbred, a reform council leader referring to me saying, no foreign national or first

generation migrant should be allowed to sit in Parliament, apparently unaware I'm a British citizen born in North London. I will never be cowed by racism, but I will call it what it is. Nigel Farage, you need to clean up your party and stamp out this 1950s style hate. Now, this is a strategy, by the way. This is not something. that Lammy decided to do on his own because it backed up a line that Stama trotted out at PMQs. Before May's election, reform in Kent promised that they would improve services and cut taxes. Instead, vital services to older people and those with a mental health condition provided by great organisations like Imago and involved is to be cut and taxes are going on.

Would the Prime Minister agree with me on two things that given the additional money for the County through the Fair Funding Review, it's beyond belief that Kent are cutting services that vulnerable people rely on, and that their so-called Doge Unit that we were told would eliminate waste, actually stands for deluded, overconfident, gormless and embarrassing. Well, it sums up very well how his community have been utterly let down by reform. whilst the Member for Clacton is making excuses about his behaviour at school, look at what his party are doing across the country. Chaos in Kent.

In Hampshire, their mayoral candidate says the Deputy Prime Minister, a black British man born in this country should go back to the Caribbean. In Staffordshire, reforms leader has been exposed as a white supremacist. It's not a coincidence, Mr Speaker, because, Chaos and Division is a member of Clacton's life world. And now, Connor Tomlinson is here. Connor, huge amount to pick up on today. Lots of breaking news.

But let's get first to that major announcement from Tommy Robinson. The pre-action letter to Nigel Farage is sent. If he doesn't apologize for his false claim that Tommy had been convicted of violence against women, this will end up in court. what do you think Nigel should do? Surely he's banged to rights. Yeah, it's a shame that it has been brought to this point because Tommy Robinson seems to be the one man in Britain

that you're allowed to smear and slander without any pushback or reprisal. Guests on TV News do it all the time, saying he's a fascist and a racist and has committed all sorts of crimes that he actually hasn't. And he gets no right of reply because he's banned from pretty much every network. And the same seems to have happened here

where Nigel Farage has made a, let's say, slip of the tongue, and it only happened once, as the letter pointed out, but he hasn't done the gentlemany thing and apologised. And so it's a shame that Robinson feels the need to threaten legal action to get Farage to apologize, when he should just say, yeah, said the wrong thing, my bad, even if he's not welcome in the party, it's still the becoming thing for Farage to do. Absolutely it is. Absolutely it is.

Do you think he will? Because he does seem to have a visceral hatred against Tommy, doesn't he? I think he finds him inconvenient and he doesn't like to keep being asked about him. And reform, despite their pole dominance, still have this bunker mentality, this sort of Ming Vars mentality, that they can't put a foot wrong because their seismic pole lead that is consistent in and has been for months. And yet, even the economist says they haven't quite reached their ceiling, is somehow still a mirage.

they're not confident enough in themselves yet. And so they feel the need to consistently punch rightward, even though Robinson at this point is probably on the same page in them as them in terms of deportation policy, though their deportation policy isn't been fleshed out. And a perfect example of this was, Nigel Farrow's just this week, reiterated how right he was to oust Rupert Lowe from the party.

And he was saying, oh, you can't go around, you know, slagging off the membership and slagging off the head and carefully omitted the fact that the reason that he was ousted from the party, as far as I'm aware, considering everything that came out the time, was misogynistic bullying allegations that disappeared like a fart in the wind, and also Zia Yusuf, and with Lee Anderson's help on that letter, accusing Rupert Lowe of having to threaten to kill him, and therefore he had his home raided and his shotguns taken. So they would rather Rupert Lowe be given a criminal record on what turned out to have been

completely false charges, as many people predicted, than for him to have a gnatur in the Daily Mail and say that Nigel Farage is the Messiah and he's also a very naughty boy but we should probably build out a team around him, which is something that Nigel Farage now agrees with in a recent interview given to the specky. And also, when Farage said, well, we had to get rid of Rupert's censoring because he said mass deportations are a dark and dangerous use of rhetoric.

And then a couple of months later, he came out and adopted mine and Rupert's position of mass deportations anyway. So, yeah, look, reform just keep shooting themselves rhetorically in the foot, and they don't need to. They don't need to be so insecure. They don't need to make so many enemies to their right.

They don't even need these people in the party necessarily, but there's no reason to antagonize them. Learn the lesson of Trump in recent months. Trump doesn't ever try to seek approval from the likes of Ilhan Omar or Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi. He's got nicknames for them. He disparages them. He dedicates every true social post

to telling Ilhan Omar to go back to Somalia. But when he's asked about Nick Fuentes or Tucker Carlson, who have themselves been very critical of Trump over the Iran strikes and everything, Trump just goes, they can talk to who they like. I'm not going to sit there and ritualistically disavow them for the fake news. who has always had it out for me and won't give me any grace even if I cleave off my allies.

And so they just need to learn that the media are the enemy and your enemy isn't actually people that are encouraging you to take stronger stances on the policies you're both concerned about because they know you're going to win. They just want you to win effectively. Now, Reform UK are celebrating today, Connor, because of this breaking news where they say they are now the biggest political party in the UK by membership. I've hit 268,000, which takes them above Labour, who are on a quarter of a million, and you'll see they're the Greens, more than 180,000, the Conservative is less than 123,000. The Lib Dem's around 83,000.

Advance UK, by the way, Ben Habib's party, already on 40,000, which is pretty extraordinary, given what a short run-up that party has had with very little financial support. But at the same time, the right is really disillusioned with reform over this decision to put up this Bangladeshi Boris wave migrant as a candidate in next year's election. Yeah, the absurdity of that, there's some extra details there. So first of all, people are going, oh, he's just a campaigner. No, he announced, before the BBC run an article on him confirming he was a candidate, that he was going to be a candidate in a ward in Portsmouth.

and he announced it in Bengali on his Facebook page. So he himself is not abiding by that, well, you have to speak English to stay here standard. He's doing it in at least two languages. And then when the post announcing it said, well, he's here to represent his community. It's like, yeah, he's an ethnic sectarian candidate. I don't know whether he's a Muslim or not,

but it would fit the trend for reform, unfortunately. So he is incapable of representing the white, mainly Christian, if not agnostic or atheist, left behind working majority of the country. And then how he came to be in the country is also very conspicuous. He's on a student visa, which will expire soon. So how he's going to stay here,

I mean, one, he was, you know, he's only here because of the Boris wave in the first place, but how he's going to stay here, we must scratch our heads. And then the post that announced it, said, clarifying underneath, yeah, he might want to move to the Middle East soon, right, so he's not actually wedded to this nation. He doesn't care about what he hands off to his inheritance.

He's just like a political grifter to basically get it on his CV. He's basically a striver. He's doing it for the LinkedIn post. And also, it said, well, he wants to return to his homeland at some point. It's like, okay, brilliant. I really hope he does. I hope he does very quickly. That means he should be barred from any political representation in our country. And the two laws that allow this, by the way, just to put it on people's radar when we come for the Great Repeal Act. It's the British Nationality Act of 1948, and then it's revision in 1981, which allows Commonwealth migrants to vote in our elections and to stand as local candidates in council wards. And this is why in Tower Hamlets, we have Bangladeshis dominating

the local council wall, also running as MPs back in Bangladesh, repeal, replace, and anyone found to be doing that, deport. What's fascinating is that Reform UK are now also wanting to become their own media empire. And why I find that particularly interesting is that Nigel Farage has quite simply turned G.B. News, a 24-hour channel in which he has a significant shareholding into a propaganda outfit for his party. That's why Rupert Lowe's band, that's why Ben Habib's band, and that's why a whole load of other people who have defected to advance UK, for example, or support Tommy Robinson, are not allowed on the GB News airwaves. Obviously, I've found that pretty uncomfortable as someone who was the launch presenter of Gb News and believed that it should

not be party political at all. It should stand up for what's right. But Nigel, who's always up for himself, and in some ways that's okay, but I think GB News has made a real strategic error by going all in on the Nigel Reform UK bandwagon, has announced, in The Spectator this week, we're going to open our own podcast channel very soon. Remember that? They have already built a full functioning studio within Reform UK headquarters. The tech is better than anything that GB News has, and this will provide a direct threat to GB News, which is no longer, let's be honest, a true channel of free speech or a true champion of British patriotism, but rather a channel which campaigns on behalf of Nigel Farage and Reform

UK. Now, Connor Tomlinson, host of Tomlinson talks on YouTube, I have no problem with GB News choosing to be that. They are a private company. I just wish they were honest about it, right? I wish their presenters would all own up. Like, I was watching an interview this morning between Alex Armstrong, secret reform UK member, wants to be a candidate, and Miriam Kate, who Andrea Jenkins revealed earlier this month. was in secret discussions with Danny Kruger to defect to Reform UK. They were both interviewing Zia Yusuf, Reform UK, Big Bod.

And it was extraordinary. It was like, oh, Zia, here's a question from one of our viewers saying, we really want you to be Prime Minister. Come on. No one. No one who watches G.B. News wants Zia Yusuf to be Prime Minister. So it is propaganda for Reform UK. I just wish that they were honest about it.

But it's interesting, isn't it, that Nigel is like it's not enough. Reform UK is going to open its own podcast channel, which is in direct competition with GB News, which might be the number one channel, by the way, on TV when it comes to news, but is very much struggling in the new media space in the YouTube world. Yeah, a few things are down. Number one, that viewer might be Paul Marshall. So actually, there is one person who wants to be the owner of GV. Yeah, well, I don't think he's on the board anymore, but I know he at least set it up.

Oh, he pulls the strings, trust me. I couldn't possibly say anything. As far as whether or not it's a competitor to GV News, well, I'm not sure. I think they probably have a better digital game than GB, and this isn't me slighting GB, by the way, because I'm still allowed on digital, if not banned from live airwaves, because an executive told me I was, quote, a legal liability. I think I'm perfectly sensible and nice, but there you go, can't win everyone over. Though last time I had an interview put out, they had five interviews in the bank when I was about to record a new one, which hasn't gone out yet.

And then even though they hadn't released them all, they just released them all in the same day, which anyone who does YouTube as you do Dan knows that that just screws you over in the algorithm and they all get buried. Like Victor David Hanson, who usually gets like hundreds of thousands of views, got like 40,000. So they've kind of screwed themselves over their digital strategy. So maybe reform realizes a bit of a gap in the market there. And it means that they're never threatened during, one, the election season when off-com prevents Farage and other elected politicians from hosting their own shows, because they won't be off-com regulated. Two, it calls Labour's bluff on the Online Safety Act as to whether or not they're going to regulate social media and internet broadcasting, because then I think Reform think that they'll win back over the entire online right and commentary sphere if they lead the charge on fighting back against censorship of online broadcast, the insistence on neutrality. And also, because Offcom doesn't have jurisdiction, it can't cancel its guests. And, you know, at the moment, I've got Stella Creasy trying to bring an Offcom complaint against me for my recent appearance on GB for saying that we shouldn't have any MPs from the Indian subcontinent in Parliament, stand by every syllable, frankly.

They've probably seen things like that, the fact that GB has been maliciously targeted by left-wing actors, like Stop Funding Hate, funded by the Paul Hamlin Foundation and the Home Office and all sorts of SORUS-funded NGOs trying to get them shut down and thought, well, if we bring all the production in-house, if we only do digital, if we only speak to each other and we're not sort of constantly bickering with your average off-com-appointed leftists, when we can get the message out even further. My only question to them would be, which guess are you going to bring on to expand your reach? We were both at the Trigonometry Christmas Party on Tuesday, Dan. And I won't say who, but I was speaking to someone involved in reform. It turns out we got along a lot better than we thought. It was very much like the Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, thing of, I thought you were a Fed.

No, I thought you were a fed. And, you know, we got along in the end. But I just said to him, do you not think that it's a kind of problem for reform that they've distanced themselves from all of the organic young people who have their own platform and their own audience and a bit of energy and were willing about a year or so ago to help out. muck in and spread the word. And now when you go to try and do that youth outreach and try and do that content, you've got Jack Anderton, and that's about it. And like, he can do some very sleek, slim, you know, clean-cut TikToks. But he's not the most charismatic man in the world and he probably can't carry a monologue show.

But he's the one that's doing all the campus tools. You've got the Xavier chap, who, again, seems really nice that politics Joe interviewed. But, I mean, he is a Portuguese immigrant here on a student visa. Like, it came like nine years ago studying as a student and now he's here in Durham. And so, sorry, but is there no one else with a bit more pizzazz and presents and, you know, can throw a few jokes out there? And I think ultimately what it will be, it will just be Brexit Party TV all over again unless they change the formula up. Now, I don't know what they've got in store, but I know that me and my friends and probably my audience probably won't be watching it. No, I don't think Reform UK speaking to Reform UK on a podcast is going to be.

the success that they believe it is. Now, by the way, Connor, you speak about Stella Creasy trying to get you banned from GB News. It was as a result of this interview, which you were talking about, I've got some of it, so let's just watch.

Our parliament is turned into a battleground for the ethnic grudges of the Indian subcontinent. These respective nations have their ambassadors in our parliament who are second generation immigrants, but are arguing on behalf of people who come from where their parents came from, who believe the same

religions as them, and at no point in this process is the native population represented. I certainly don't feel represented when these, when someone from Pakistan, someone from India, and someone from Bangladesh are all arguing over how they can import more of their fellow countrymen into my country. And you know what? The majority of the British public don't feel represented either, and so they're just sort of waiting out the next few years, or even earlier if an election is called, to get these people out of their parliament. The only problem is, and this is why I think Mahmoud has forwarded this particular measure, to sound like she's talking tough on migration.

The only problem is they are more likely to be replaced by independent Muslim sectarian candidates, like Iqbal Muhammad, than they are a reform or a conservative, sensible conservative MP. So what we're going to get at the next election is either more Green Party or independent MPs, sort of freaking out any time someone tries to put forward a sensible immigration restriction measure, rather than the British people being represented in many places across their country. Now, Conner, what I find infuriating about this is that GB News will not put that on its main TV channel. And I think that's gutless and weak, to be honest. And another reason why they are failing digitally.

Because actually, you're one brand. So the idea that they can sort of be totally wet and weak source and Reform UK propaganda channel on TV, but then, oh, we're going to put up a couple of edgier interviews online. And that makes people realize that actually we're something that maybe we're not on TV. I don't think it works. What's also interesting to me is I think what Stella Creasy has done in terms of this campaign against you proves that that.

are never safe. You're not safe just because you put something on a different platform. Actually, they've got to stand up and be bold about their brand and what they want to be and what they want to do. But the fact that people like you and Carl Benjamin are sort of like segregated online, you know, never allowed on TV. I don't think it works, personally. Yeah, I think they do me to stand up and be countered because you're not negotiating with a good faith interlocutor over something like marginal tax rates here. You're trying to fight for survival with an enemy that wants, in Stella Creasy's case, to abort every child that she can get her sights on up until the moment it is crowning out of the womb and then replace them with men from Pakistan, India, Africa,

the Middle East. I mean, take your pick. She's full-throated open borders. She was crying about Mahmoud's mild asylum augmentations while also establishing new safe and legal routes to get charter flights straight from Palestine. And she wrote in The Guardian, well, we're going to need ice-style raids to rip children away from their families. And it was like, oh, I wish we had the government your fevered imagination had cooked up, Stella. Anyway, so yeah, they do need to stand up and be counted because they've got people like that that will always want to shut them down. They would rather see them dead in the street than succeed and reform the country, make no bones about it. However, I will provide a little spirited defense for the split strategy that GB

are doing, Dan, because I don't know if it's necessarily a containment exercise to throw a little bit of red meat to the base while they then, you know, carry the Ming Vars for a form over the line. I do think that it's just my friend Stephen Edgington is actually very much onside and has a degree of autonomy because he does a great number of eyes. Yeah, he's an excellent guy. He's very principled. I count him among the zoomers. He's too good for G. And there are only there were a few people like this in institutions like my friend mary harrington unheard despite me despising unheard there is like lorry wustle and david chiplet the spectator they're kind of stuck in these institutions and trying to make the best of what they got and so i think uh uh we should

reward with carrot and stick wrap rap gb on the knuckles anytime they do something silly or cave to the left but when they do platform people like carl or david star keep throw on a carrot. Yeah, the problem is Rupert Lowe is still banned everywhere. And he keeps on posting to Michelle Jubry about this. Am I banned from your show, Michelle Jubes? A very straight question. I'm sure your viewers would appreciate a straight answer. I used to love coming on your show, Michelle. I really did every week. Lively debate, good fun. Then all of this with Farage and you've gone completely silent. And then when Lady C asks, come on Michelle Jubs, do the right thing and show the station is really free speech.

Rupert said a very straight question. I'm sure your viewers would appreciate a straight answer. And Jubes is very outspoken on X when she wants to be Connor, when it's coming for people like me who she considers enemies of the station. But with Rupert Lowe, who was a guest on her show every single week, as was Ben Habib, one of the most popular guests on her show, by the way, Total Radio Silence. Yeah, last time I was on Michelle's show was last August,

I had that big bust up with Sean Simon, the former Labor candidate, and the clip got something like 400,000 views, and I thought, oh, that was good fun. Never got a callback since. And I think it's because not necessarily Michelle, but some executive somewhere just went, well, we can't afford to have him on, you know, too risky, take the cut. Instead, I mean, Charlie Downs, you know, mutual friend, head of campaigns at Restore Britain, was only on Michelle's show last week. He's a regular.

Perhaps he's replaced me because he's slightly better looking. But I do think that there is a conspicuous absence of people to the right of reform. And yet again, it suggests that reform have this risk-averse Ming-Vars strategy, that they're encouraging all of their aligned outlets to engage in helping them carry over the finish line. So then one must question why, if you are having the entire Marshall Network on your side, trying to get you, bracket Zia-Yusuf elected, why you would think that putting Bonnie Blue in the Christmas edition of The Spectator giving an endorsement to Nigel Farage was such a good idea. Breaking right now, Andrew Pearce, the Daily Mail columnist and host on GB News, has been axed by Woke ITV and the Good Morning Britain Show, where he has acted as a commentator alongside Kevin McGuire for the past decade amid a swirling scandal of allegations.

that the mainstream media will not report. Now, this is very interesting, and I'll come to it in one moment, because, of course, when it came to Russell Brand, Andrew Pearce was like the one with the pitchforks out leading the mob. But he expects very different treatment, given the allegations against him. But Wokai TV, which is particularly risk-verse, is using their move, their production move, to the base of ITN next year. as a smokescreen in order to axe Pierce without having to deal with the allegations,

which I know for a fact they are very much aware of. Pierce isn't happy about it. I mean, this is a greedy bloke, by the way. He loves the money. He's got a full-time job at the Daily Mail, full-time job at GB News. He had a full-time job at GMB, and he wants it. And he was furious so much so that when the Daily Express reported one Good Morning Britain's Star suggested he won't be on the show much longer. He posted, not a suggestion, it's a fact.

Next week is my last on GMB, but viewers can tune in to see me presenting on GB News from 9.30am, Monday to Thursday. Now, as soon as I saw that, I just thought of two words, for now. For now. And my Tusi, very respected figure in the independent news space, of course, posed this simple statement, wonder why he was sacked? Now, the problem that a lot of people have with Andrew Pearce is the fact that he is a protected establishment figure, very, very close with Lady Rothermear, which is why he gets totally different treatment at the Daily Mail. I will remind you, of course, this was an organisation that suspended me based on total lies and then sacked me based on a comment that Lawrence Fox had made on GB News. Yet when it comes to Andrew Pearce,

totally different approach. And the reason why so many people despise Andrew Pearce is because of the positions that he took during the COVID pandemic. And then the way that he bullied his co-presenter on air, Beverly Turner, who despised Andrew so much. It's one of the reasons she's ended up interviewing Donald Trump in the US. I mean, could you blame her, not wanting to sit next to this man for another day? Especially after this on-air exchange, following allegations against, again, against Russell brand, which Bev Turner simply wanted due process, conducted on. Watch. That is shameful.

It's not shameful. That is shameful. You have dismissed in one tweet a four-year investigation by the Sunday Times, The Times, and Channel 4 is contemptuously the mainstream media. A 16-year-old girl has complained of being groomed by this man. Two women have said they were raped, and there are more and more cases coming in sight. And you say you're a hero. Don't you think before you say some of the hero, hang on, don't you think before you say he's a hero, you should establish whether these very serious allegations are true?

Well, what's the answer to that? Before I tweeted that, I had spoken to several sources, close to Brand, close to the Times. How'd you spoke to those four women? I was confident that there is no smoking gun in this regard. Right. I remain confident having watched the dispatches, if that is what they've got after four years of a joint investigation by the Times newspaper and Channel 4, those four flimsy allegations from women who choose to stay anonymous, so there is nobody that can counter their version of events. It's nobody who can say, well, hang on, I was there on that occasion. And this is a thing, every year, every year, there are 1.1 million, every year, there are 1.1 million people who are sexually assaulted in this country.

Newspapers like yours don't care about that until there's a celebrity involved. And then suddenly it's all over the front page of the paper. So you'll notice Andrew Pease doesn't seem to believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty. Particularly interesting given that I've been told this is a guy who has used NDAs to shut down people from speaking about him. But he wasn't finished there. There's not a scintilla of sympathy in this statement on Twitter for these four women, who I would argue, none of them know each other. It's a very big thing to go public.

And you say, this proves, keep going. This proves you're winning. What, winning by allegedly raping and grooming 16. You're a hero, love heart. Let me tell you why he's winning. He's winning, because he is a man who generates his own content under his, his own speed, under his own expense, he is a threat to all of these newspapers. The ones that you write for when you can.

I love newspapers. Don't get me wrong. I love this industry. So that's more important than these allegations by these women. Why now? Why now? Why now? It's taken four years. It's taken four years for this. And that's all they've got. Why didn't those women go to the police? Why haven't they gone to the police now? The allegations, they're increasing in their number, and I guarantee you this is going to be a huge investigation, a huge story, and I'm astonished that you leapt to his defence. Well, again, let's allow that investigation to play out. Of course, it is playing out, and Brand will be facing trial. But what's playing out with Andrew Pearce is an investigation that lots of people, including the Daily Mail, seem. to want to cover up.

And they seem to operate completely hypocritical standards. I think what was particularly awful, though, about Pierce versus Turner was the way that he was just so determined to bully her live on air. You hadn't watched the dispatcher. Had you watched the dispatcher show

when you put that tweet out on Saturday morning? No, but that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You hadn't even seen the dispatches program when you put out he is a hero. You hadn't even seen the dispatches program. He would not have gained the popularity as a woman knowing that how difficult it is in this country. If all of the mainstream media hadn't been singing for one non-scientific hymshe for the last three years, shame on you. Then he wouldn't have the heroes. Shame on you for attacking these women.

You've created that hero. Shame on you for attacking these women. Because all these people, all these newspapers that gave one side of the pandemic, he with a low... So it's now about COVID again. Beverly Turner's other big hobbyhalls. She can't get through an hour without going on about... This is not about COVID. This is about serious allegations about a public figure who has been accused by four women of twice, two of rape, one of grooming a six-year-old, and you're banging on about COVID.

He talks about the thing that's... You're obsessed. No, I'm telling you that the reason he is a hero to million... of people, millions who will be watching this channel is because of his position on politics in the last three years. He used to be a left winger. He got out that's written off as a right winger. That's why people like Jonathan Ashwood don't know what to say. Because when he was the left wing darling, everybody loved him. Now that he's interviewing people like Tucker Carlson and interviewing Ron DeSantis, the press hate him. They've turned against him.

Now, I think that TV appearance is going to look between. particularly unwise in the next 12 months. Let me bring in Connor Tomlinson, who is the host of the independent news show Tomlinson talks on YouTube. Connor, Good Morning Britain, has axed Andrew Pearce. He's not going to be part of their move to ITN next year. Andrew Pearce doesn't seem happy about it. What do you make of that decision? I'll be honest, Dan.

Whenever I saw the clips of him arguing with the chap from Daily Mirror, I was bored, stiff. So it would be very good if they could bring on an actual right winger for a change and, you know, uphold some of that famous balance and impartiality that I'm sure Offcom is interested in enforcing right when they get round to chastising Ed Balls for interviewing his own wife on morning television back when she was Home Secretary. But as far as the old clip where he was berating Bev Turner and derailing the show, I haven't spoken to bed for quite a while, but I did speak to her shortly after that, back when I used to be live on bed on a few occasions. Yeah, she hated his guts.

I don't think she might be saying that. He was an insufferable, no-it-all when they were on air together. And look, regarding Brand, I mean, there's going to be the trial next June, I think it is, because he's been charged with two different sets of allegations. But regarding the Channel 4 documentary that they put out, on this undercover investigation, separate from the veracity of the claims that still need to have their day in court and we'll see whether or not it's credible or it was like the Michael Jackson allegations where, you know, his name was smeared and they still come up with nothing,

but the man continues to be defamed long after the grave. Concerning the Channel 4 documentary, it was kind of incredulous. I mean, some of the texts that were, that the woman in the US had sent to him and claims were evidence were you could see where it was clipped and slightly doctored, so it raised questions about that. And then the pseudonymized young woman who claims that she was groomed by brand, which Andrew Pierce kept reiterating, again, I'm not going to speak to the credibility of her story, but it does call it into question when Channel 4 then reveal that she was working for channel 4 when she made the documentary. And it does cast a shadow of politically motivated

doubt over the stories. Now, again, I've got nothing invested. in seeing Brand either convicted or acquitted of this. But it does speak to Andrew Pierce's... How do I phrase this? Not hypocrisy, but his inability to accurately reflect the critical thinking capacities of people who wanted to watch an alternative media channel like GV News when he is screeching about the allegations

which have not had, again, their day in court and had spurious evidence at the time, and when he was insisting on the truth of lockdowns and the efficacy of the vaccine, which now has been called into question by even the likes of, I think it was the Atlantic this week, admitting that children had died from it, while being completely uncritical of his own personal situation.

Yeah, I think he has no critical thinking ability, actually. And I think it was one of the moments when G.B. News turned very much towards the establishment. you'll remember that in one announcement, it was three hires. People who had really turned their nose up at G.B. News in the early days. Pierce being one. Camilla Tomeney from the Daily Telegraph being another. She of Tommy Robinson as a white supremacist fame.

And Michael Portillo, too. And those signings, remember, I was still at GB News at the time. The management were proud as Punch About because they thought that it represented G.B. News moving into the mainstream, becoming an establishment force. But actually, for the G.B News viewers, and certainly for presenters like Bev Turner, it was hard to swallow because Andrew Pearce didn't just go with the narrative over COVID-Connor. I would argue he actually attempted to demonize. He demonized those of us who challenged lockdowns, and he demonized people who refused to take the vaccine in the most horrendous manner that personally I can never

forgive or forget. He was part of the Pearz Morgan scaremongering mob. And by the way, a lot of that was done from the GMB, Good Morning Britain, Sofa. And I don't forget it. Quite a lot that was done from the GV News sofa as well, Dan. I remember Carol Malone constantly shrieking about vaccine deniers as well every night. Also... Well, Beav Turner actually used to be a panelist on my show on GB News

and she had a huge clash with Carol Malone and said she would never be on with her again, which I completely understood. But I was utterly determined on my show to bring both sides of that argument

at a time and it was very risky to do so, by the way, so I hosted the vaccine injured, for example. And remember this, you know, you're talking 20, one, this was just happening. And obviously Mark Stein was another huge figure behind that too.

Yeah, and you held Matt Hancock's feet to the fire and one of the most uncomfortable interviews I think I've ever seen seared into my brain. It's probably my favorite interview ever, actually. Yeah, at various points of the interview, he looked like Woody from Toy Story when Andy walks back in the room, just completely dead behind the eyes and motion. But then this was at the same time as well.

Everyone sort of was memory holder now because it's quite uncomfortable to realize that your neighbours, and popular media personalities were acting like a kind of starzy. This is the same time when Andrew Neal, formerly of G.B. News, for all the three days, and Karen, I can't remember her surname, but she's a baroness, and she used to sit behind out next to Alan's sugar on The Apprentice, were using a Soviet slur, refuse Nick, to describe people that didn't want to get the vaccine,

who were absolutely at no threat of dying or actually, in many instances, at greater risk of some sort of adverse side effect than they were from contracting a very nasty strain. of COVID, and I know people have had adverse side effects, and they didn't have COVID nearly as badly, and so it wasn't warranted. So the entire climate was censorious and hostile, as was around the brand allegations, because I hope everyone doesn't forget, that Dame Caroline Dynage, who is still a Conservative MP, who was pressing hard on the Online Safety Act before it even passed, sent out letters to TikTok, Rumble, and G.B. News, saying, you have either platformed

Russell Brand, or you spoken positively about Russell Brand in the past. Therefore, Russell Russell Brand should be sent in to demonetized from your platform, and Bev Turner should be sacked for her tweet about Russell Brand. So the sitting MP tried to get Bev Turner fired. And me, and me, by the way, on allegations that were completely false, put out by a criminal operation in terms of byline times. Caroline Dinish, I'm so glad that you brought her up. She is a truly nefarious force in British politics and British broadcasting.

And by the way, very close, I am told to Andrew Pearce. And I just hope that she's going to hold Andrew Pearce to the standards that she held Russell Brand to, that she held Viv Turner to, that she held me too. I look forward to the letter about Andrew Pierce, Caroline Dinage. I have a feeling it will never come. Breaking right now, an on-air medical emergency on LBC that has left many commentators wondering if the host Andrew Maher needs to end his live broadcasting career. Basil the Great posted LBC presenter Andrew Maher appears to have suffered a serious medical issue on last night's show.

The episode is not available on LBC's catch-up service. Andrew previously suffered a stroke, hope he's okay. Let me show you what happened. Play LBC. 635. Something momentous I need to take the time to tell you about. The winners of the Global Player Awards 2025 have been announced. And I'm speaking as the only white man, I think, in the south of England without my own podcast.

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but the award-winning documentary filmmaker Andrew Jarecki, with help of phone cameras, smuggled to inmates, has broken open secrecy in a film called The Alabama Solution. A film has already got the Oscars buzz round it. When he joined me, I wanted to find out why Alabama is so unusual when it comes to its prisons.

I mean, incredibly difficult to listen to and I think LBC have to have a serious thought about whether this is a man that can keep presenting. You'll remember he did bravely recover from his serious stroke to go back on air on the British Bashing Corporation. I had been very, very heavily overworking, mostly my own fault in the year before that.

I'd had two minor strokes, it turned out, in that year, which I hadn't noticed. I'm going to be taking your chair. I'm absolutely sure when I'm ready to do so. I'm certainly coming back. I've got a lot more to say about it all, but I'm going to wait until I've gone through the physio to do so. And he did go back, but even a decade ago, did still struggle on the BBC at times.

Been misled. We can't expect politicians to apologise and they're not... Sorry, and then not do it ourselves, can we? Sorry. And now to the paper's front pages. Sunday Times, the super-rich story there. I'm so sorry. My throat is going.

It must be the apology. Labour will bring back rent controls, it says there, and a story about the Tory's wobbly weekend. The observer has the Nepal. which is the big story again in, sorry, the Sunday Telegraph. And May, we always like a royal story on a Sunday morning. The SNP Labor Pact was the worst crisis since the abdication, says the mail. That's Theresa May.

We'll talk about that later on. The thing about Andrew Maher, of course, is that he is a very political presenter, and that's why LBC wants to keep him on air. Just this week, he had been leading the charge. against Donald Trump. Watch. The irony of the President of the United States, a country entirely founded on immigration, which in recent years as well has derived such a lot of its energy

and its push and its creativity from waves of migrants, attacking Europe for letting migrants in. It's as if whatever country it was that invented woke, name escapes me, was attacking Britain for woke, as if the country that brought us social media to, rage and divide us, now complains we aren't more harmonious. By the way, I think the speed and quantity of current immigration here is too much, and yes, I also think we have to get control of our borders. I just kind of resent being lectured by a country with such race and culture

war problems of its own. It's time to stand up for who we really are. Not perfect, but I would 100 times more rather live in London than in pious, monotonous New York or dank self-satisfied imperial Washington. Connor Tomlinson, it was obviously very difficult listening to Andrew Ma really struggle to get through that. What's your reaction? Well, despite the political and irreconcilable disagreements with him, Dan, not just over the likes of Trump, but his scaremongering that there will be blood in the streets if the Boris Waiver returned home or his sycophancy over Greta Thunberg, you can only pray that he's all right and that he's surrounded by his family and that he recovers from whatever sounds to be a really quite difficult illness or sudden medical emergency.

So, yeah, you're right, it's very distressing to listen to. But what I think this is endemic of is something a bit more broader that I've been talking about on my show recently, which is the old guard just won't let go. I mean, we have in America, in Congress and the Senate, we had Diane Feinstein, who herself had some sort of stroke and seemed to have Alzheimer's, being wheeled in for votes, which she didn't know what she were voting for by her congressional staff, and she was in her 90s. We have Nancy Pelosi, again, who's in her 80s, who's only not seeking re-election this time around, who was mother of the House and seemed to have frozen up on television multiple times. Same with Senator Mitch McConnell keeps freezing up in front of the cameras. You've got octogenarians in the American government, you've got boomers basically controlling the media class, and the world has changed around them to such an extent that they're not just inflexible in their thinking, but they're, especially during COVID, I think this is this sort of paranoia carried out. They're so concerned about their own health, their own wealth, their own status, that they are unwilling to update their political and cultural software to change with the times.

And so that means that the media bubble is increasingly disconnected, not just out of some sort of nefarious. conspiracy to gaslight the public, though that does happen, but just out of habit and temperament and thought from the public and their immediate and pressing concerns. And so I would say that it would be perhaps in poor taste to involuntarily retire like someone like Andrew Marr just because he has a health complication. But this should be something that everyone else is thinking about for the long term, is that how can you keep filling media institutions with quite literally the old guard who have been, who have hopped around the houses from the BBC to the new states, to LBC, whereas you've got no young talent being cultivated coming up, and the only space that

that's happening is in independent media, online, on X, in substack blogs, and eventually you've got to go, well, are our audience dying off either because we lack credibility, or because they're so old that, you know, every year 5% shrinks and nobody's watching us anymore, do you need to bring some young blood in, and do you need to bring in some fresh perspectives? And you won't have these problems. You won't have the problem of being utterly disconnected and discredited, but also of being stuck without a star should a sudden and unfortunate medical emergency happen to them on or off air?

Totally. I think sometimes people need to know when it's time to leave the stage. Of course, we saw this being an interesting part of the discussion between Piers Morgan and Nick Fuentes this week to Connor because Piers Morgan thought, oh, you know, here's the real gotcha moment. I'm going to pull out the big gun,

the heavy weight. Here's Danny Finkelstein. And you know, Danny Finkelstein is one of those like establishment guys who's just wrong on everything. But Pearz was like, this is big, you know, this is the guy who I've got. And he's going to make Nick Fuentes look stupid. And of course, Nick Fuentes is just like, who's this old boomer guy? And Danny Finkelstein is, I think, the type of person. I mean, he was also this week on News Night alongside Ash Sarker, a bit like Andrew Maher, a relic who belongs to another era of the media and no longer is able to serve the viewers and the listeners because they're just so out of touch. Well, Finkelstein's an especially nefarious case because he is unrepentant about his

influence over ruining the Conservative Party, you know, the most successful oldest political party in the world. And he drove it to be radically progress. and it's still insisting that it not lurched to the far right to try and save itself. He's written columns over the last year, one of which I responded to, and he wrote a really long tweet that I couldn't, you can still find it on Google, but I couldn't screen grab it in time because he ended up deleting it in response to a video I made about it, but the article was, there's no future in the politics of victimhood.

Really, Danny, no offense, but then perhaps stop writing about your mother and father's tragic persecution at the hands of Hitler and Stalin to then make yourself a household name, and then perhaps you should probably tell that to the state, of Israel, whose claim to establish itself as a state to protect Jews after the Holocaust, was because, you know, they were victimized during the Holocaust, something that you brought up when you, like, beamed in to a conversation between Pierce Norgon and Nick Fuentes to insert yourself as the sort of victimized voice of Jewish morality. It's like, sorry, but the reason that

Nick was so effective in that debate, it wasn't just because he was funny. It's because he laughed in the face of this absurd morality, which is straining under the weight of its own contradictions, and which young white men, such as myself, don't have to abide by, even if they think the horrors of the 20th century were appalling, which I do, and which actually, if you watch Nick's long-form show, despite his clippable moments in inflammatory rhetoric, he does. He's very insistent that, as a Catholic, you shouldn't kill anybody. But we haven't, using the sort of Holocaust as a kind of gravity well, around which all politics moves.

the insinuation that, well, if white Europeans, if white Americans, if the majority populations of the West were to organize around their own positive identity rather than recognizing that they have been the villains throughout history oppressing minorities. And if they stood up for their own civilization, had a preference to their people and their culture and their heritage, that would lead ineluctibly to gas chambers and Hitler. And I'm sorry, but that morality is not only wrong, like morally wrong, to tell people that they are racially guilty, no matter what race they are. Also, why would you expect young men to abide by that when that is the morality that's made them second-class citizens in their own country and incapable of making any jokes without being cancelled?

So, of course, they organically elect by watching his show, because he now gets like a million viewers a show, it's insane. They organically elect an avatar who's prepared to say the most offensive possible things, risk cancellation from everywhere, can't even get a bank account now, and spend 10 years broadcasting out of his parents' basement saying the same thing over and over again until he becomes the biggest live show in America. And when you confront him with his own clip saying, well, I've got you now, now that the public really knows what you think, that you've been saying every day on a free live stream for 10 years, won't you denounce it? Here's some Jewish guy zooming in to morally brow at you. What did you think he was going to do but laugh at you?

And that's why Pierce Morgan, not just, you know, the public revelations that he's basically a giant cuckold this week, has burned his reputation for an entire generation, and it's probably the worst time to do it considering he's trying to build a big media company with multi-million dollars, whereas Nick Fuentes just, you know, runs his camera from his basement and has captured the imagination of millions. And I'm just going to make a prediction. There's going to be all sorts of Nick Fuentes' type characters across various different countries and political climates, especially the more you try to cancel young men for saying things that are just obviously true to them. Indeed. And there was a really interesting interview

this week to Connor from Elon Musk with Katie Miller. There are a couple of key moments that I just wanted to get you to react to. Firstly, how much his life has changed, really difficult now, especially in light of Charlie Kirk's assassination, to even leave the house. Watch. You did something extremely ordinary, like go to Target or CVS. I can't go to things where there's the general public because I, I mean, there's an immediate, yet, can I have a selfie line that forms? And these days, particularly in light of Charlie Cook's murder, there are serious security issues.

It's not that I don't want to. I simply can't. Has Charlie's murder changed how you do things? Or were you already locked down pretty well before that? It certainly reinforced the severity of the situation where life is on a hardcore mode. You make one mistake in your dad. and only takes one mistake.

He also discussed conspiracy theories and the whole issue of conspiracy theories, which have now pretty much all come true. What's a conspiracy theory you believe in? Which conspiracy theories haven't come true at this point? We've run out of conspiracy theories that, because it will come true, as far as I can tell. I mean, I don't know if any alien,

People have asked me if there are aliens. I have seen no evidence of aliens. No one on the SpaceX senior team has any evidence of aliens. Because I've asked the team, like, guys, am I missing something? Has anyone on the team? Has anyone seen any evidence of aliens? Does that include UFOs? That's just an unidentified blank object.

So, UFO is, like, it could be like some new weapons program or whatever, that's, you know, some hypersonic missile or something like that. That would be technically a UFO, but it's just, it's just basically some weapons prototype. It's not, it's not like aliens. So, although Neil Armstrong, Neil A, spelled backwards as alien. Coincidence? You believe we actually went to the moon, though? Yes, we went to the moon a few times, actually, and played golf on the moon. We didn't just go to the moon.

We actually got a little bored and started playing golf on the moon. But why didn't the flag move? There's like that conspiracy theory. That was the jump-the-chalk moment. About the flag? No, the playing golf on the moon. Okay. You know, I literally did.

No, I understand that. Yeah, yeah. We have to golf ball on the moon. There's no gravity, though, right? There is gravity, one-sixth. If it wasn't gravity, you'd just float away. There's no atmosphere. Okay, fair.

But there is one-sixth gravity. And he also seemed to update his position on his own faith, too. Who do you look up to the most? The Creator. What's your current position on God? God is the creator You don't believe in God though do you Well I believe that was

This universe came for something People have different labels Connor Tomlinson What did you make of that Musk interview Yes we continue to pray for Elon Musk's conversion Because he's doing an awful lot of good Not just having purchased X And taken off the restraining bolts

On political discourse around the world But also doing things like Acknowledging that mass migration and white flight is an insidious form of a genocide, especially when, you know, when they say, oh, it's basically ethnic cleansing when you return people back to their countries. But it's not that when you bring lots of people from other countries into white European countries at the expense of white Europeans and push them out of their homelands. Funny how that's just both our strength and also punishment for colonialism at the same time. As far as Musk's comments, though,

on political assassinations, absolutely the case. I mean, you only need to look at, again, In Charlie's arch-nemesis, Nick Fuentes, who was almost killed in January, before Charlie was murdered, when deranged gunman came to his house, having already killed, I think his roommate and someone else, and while Nick was live on air, was knocking on his door, threatening to shoot him and had to be gunned down by police. Nick had to give a witness statement, so very harrowing. And then my friend, Tim Paul, this week, had an SUV circle, his property and fire, three shots off. Motivation's still unknown. and then you had people like Candace Owens saying that it didn't even happen,

that he had survived a shooting from his own brother and that he was playing off to try and get attention. And when Elon does say about conspiracy theories all being true, that has been pretty consistent to things like, you know, COVID or inaccuracies in the 2020 election or, you know, all the sorts of political malfeasance surrounding President Trump. There's even questions about President Trump's attempted assassin, Matthew Thomas Crook. that like Tucker Carlson has raised and the FBI has still been silent on. But there is one conspiracy theory that I'm pretty sure you can take to the bank is going to be untrue, Dan. And that is that the Egyptian military, the French Foreign Legion, the US military, men in maroon shirts and beekeepers that appeared to Candace Oates in a dream, didn't kill Charlie Cook.

It's probably, allegedly, Tyler Robinson, who got very but hurt over the fact that his furry transgender boyfriend was a target of Charlie's derision for refused. using to accept the fact that you can change sex purely by thought, and who was smiling at his first court hearing only yesterday. I think we have the Discord messages, we have the rifle, we have cameras everywhere of it. We have a confession by Robinson and the fact that he's turned in by his own parents. And so unless multiple governments, Tyler Robinson himself, his family and all of Tunning Point UK and Erica Kirk are all in on this one conspiracy that just so happens to land on Brigitte McCrone for some reason, I think Candice Owen's kooky true crime drama that she is putting the entire country through at this point,

that's probably untrue. I think the only plausible explanation for that particular conspiracy theory is she's trying to concoct an insanity defence that might work when the Macron's tried to suit her. Connor Tomlinson, host of the independent news and commentary show Tomlinson talks on YouTube. So great to have you here, Connor. Thank you. Have an amazing weekend. And of course we are, before we go today, going to reveal today's greatest Britain and Union Jackass. A remind Actually, it's not. It's not. It's the worst Britain in the world this week, but that is when we take your union jackass winners from across the week, put them head to head to find out who has been the absolute most horrible human in the United Kingdom these past seven days.

Here are your union jackass winners from across the week. On Monday, it was Angela Rainer for her comeback attempt. Tuesday, Pearce Morgan, for his lame-ass approach to virtually everything, pretending to be independent when he's absolutely not. Wednesday, Hugh Edwards, the Pito for attempting a comeback. And Thursday, Jeremy Vine for his attempts to destroy the likes of Joey Barson. Lots of feedback coming in from you. Strange but true, 3765 says, I said Pears Morgan, why a politician is a politician that lies till they die, but Pears is a sympathiser. They are worse than politicians because they will support the country's decay until it hits their doorsteps. By then it's too late and we have passed the threshold that things can be done peacefully. Paul Mahoney,

63313 says, I've gone for Pearce Morgan. He's so fake. Remember those photos of the Iraq soldiers being pissed on by our soldiers, all completely staged for his newspaper. I will never forgive him for that. Hugh Edwards says Po 12, Chris. For one, he likes them young, but he was a wolf and sheep's clothing. He does not deserve the license fee pension he gets. He's a criminal. And for what I've seen, not a nice man, there are more deserving than that criminal. But Big Red Fool says Jeremy Vine is pretty awful. I don't like the way he keeps suing. people ruining Alex Belfield's life, now Joey Barton's, and where is that awful Alucco on the list? She's horrendous.

But Sutherdown says if Angela is on the list, it's her every week, because at some point during the week, she would have opened her mouth at 1915AV, says, poor Rainer, the Tories made her do it. If they hadn't left a multi-trillion black hole, she wouldn't have become a liar and a tax dodger. Okay, let's get to your results. Who is the worst Britain in the world this week? In fourth position with 10% of the vote, Jeremy Vine. In third position with 20% of the vote, Pearce Morgan. The runner-up with 26% of the vote, Hugh Edwards.

But the worst Britain in the world this week, with 43% of your vote, it's Angela Rainer. Okay, we're moving over to Substack now for the Uncanceled Aftershow with P. Diner. of the Royal News, you can sign up to watch at www.outspoken.com. I hope you have a fabulous weekend. Get your Christmas shopping done, folks. And I will be back with you live. 5pm UK time on Monday. Midday Eastern, 9am Pacific. Remember, if you do want to catch up on the episodes throughout the week, best way to do so is by signing up to our podcast, which is now available on Spotify, podcast, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. All I ask is that you rate and review five stars,

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