Dan Wootton Outspoken - TOMMY ROBINSON’S MOST EXPLOSIVE INTERVIEW EVER AS HE UNLEASHES ON PIERS MORGAN & NIGEL FARAGE

Episode Date: August 9, 2025

Tommy Robinson hits back at shocking claims made by Nigel Farage and Piers Morgan with his own seismic allegations in his most explosive interview ever. He sits down with Dan in Outspoken’s brand new interview studio where there are tears, anger and ultimately triumph. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Dan is joined by Andrew Lownie, whose book Entitled about Prince Andrew has sent shockwaves through the British Royal Family this week. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Witten. This is outspoken episode number 288. And breaking today, Tommy Robinson, in his only news interview, responds to all of the headlines of the day. I'm incredibly excited because as you can see, this is our brand new studio. We're going to be face to face with some of your favorite guests over the next few months. And no one is under more demand to come on. on this show than Mr. Tommy Robinson. Of course, it comes as the UK is on the brink with 14 migrant hotel protests planned from right now and across the weekend

as Palestine Action, the prescribed terrorist group, really put a massive challenge on police resources. So we're going to get into it all, plus why he decided to sit down with Dan Witten outspoken rather than Piers Morgan uncensored, as Tommy claims, the famous former Good Morning Britain host wants to see him locked up in jail again. It's going to be a fascinating conversation. Also coming up on the show today, why have Reform UK become the woke party Tommy hits out at Nigel Farage and will give

him the first opportunity to respond directly to shocking comments made by Tommy while in prison by everyone from Camilla Tomeney to Jess Phillips. Then at the end of the show, as ever, we'll reveal today's worst Britain in the world this week. Tommy will also offer his picks. You can get voting, by the way, in the community tab on YouTube. We've already had tens of thousands. And a reminder of the nominees on Monday.

It was our union jackass, Narinda Kor, on Tuesday, Bushra Shake, on Thursday, even. Peter and on, sorry, on Wednesday, Evick Cooper and on Thursday, Pierce Morgan. So get voting now. I'll bring some of your best comments and the results at the end of the show. Then, by the way, we're not finished for the week. Another huge interview over on Substack for the Royal Uncancelled After Show with Andrew Launey. He is the author of this major new bombshell book on Prince Andrew, which is rocking the Royal Family. It's called Entitled. I'll be there with, according to Taz, getting all of his insight. You can join.

Join us at www. outspoken. But now, Tommy Robinson, standing by in the brand new Outspoken studio. Let's go. Tommy Robinson, look, the difference with Outspoken, as you know, we are a news show, and there is a lot of news to be made today

because you have been sent to Robert for the past seven days. Oh, it's been a scary week. Yeah, yeah. It's been the worst week in my life. and I've had some bad weeks the most scary we can live maybe not the worst most scary and we will talk a lot about that

in detail I see you've bought your books do it that's alright you do it my books TRbooks.co.com.combeautuK bought you one of each biographies only that one's left on Amazon these are all banned

so Amazon removed Amazon removed even the manifesto you can buy Moyn Kampf Hitler's book in 20 languages on Amazon but my second autobiography's banned it's insane in it I'm on my third autobiography. It's mad, isn't it?

But that one was up to 2015. This one's up to 2021. The next one, political prisoners, come in by Christmas, hopefully. The Quran is... You'll have more than Katie Price suit. Yeah, hopefully, yeah. Hopefully, anyway, so I'll give you them, but they're TRBooks.com, UK. Thank you very much.

And I bought you as well, Dan. UTK. Oh, I love it. UTK. You know, I'm on a weight loss. I know. I'm on a big weight loss. I know.

Good luck. Well, these are... Before next month. That's all I'm wearing now. And you get these at nationware.com. Yeah. Gifting. Yes, I'm Gifting. Don't care. Shainlessly. Tommy, let me start by talking about why you are here instead of being on Piers Morgan uncensored. He's very angry about that. He said when you announced this interview that you had bottled it.

I had said on the show earlier this week, and by the way, I have no personal issue with peers at all, but I had said on the show earlier this week, there's a very dark side to what he's trying to do. He wants you to go on uncensored, repeat something from silence, which is then going to have you in contempt of court, and then send you back behind bars. He's been very honest about it, and that's why usually I'd say, yeah, go right ahead, have a debate with Islam about with him, but that's not what he's trying to do. it's not uncensored. He says it's called unscensored.

He had me blocked for the last two years. Since our last showdown, what was it, three years ago, he's had me blocked, totally. And at that time, it's only now he's gone on his own YouTube channel, I believe. But he did contact me. They did reach out and said, would you come on and have a discussion? I need to have a discussion with him at some point.

It's just that, Dan, when I was in jail, you spoke up for me. There's so many presenters, commentators, that spoke up for me that actually allow a discussion. So even if you disagree with someone, we probably like agree on every single thing yeah but we can sit and talk about it peers don't talk he just shouts over you when i went on last time it was embarrassing i was embarrassed when i watch it back i'm embarrassed for him and it hasn't aged well for him and i think he probably has seized the the change in atmosphere as well of the entire nation he got

schooled by he got schooled by i'm only catching up the last couple of days as i'm looking through a tommy phobia by um i missed a mask i was in jail all right i was in jail so i was looking Piers literally had his pants pulled down by every American commentator on this issue. And then he talks them out and he's still trying to say, yeah, you lied. It's like, mate, 167 million people watch that documentary. I don't need to comment on it. And we also have to realize that there is no justice system in this country. There is a judiciary.

There is a judiciary that works on behalf of the deep state. And the problem is, yes, Pairs might be opening his eyes to certain issues. For example, the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. What he doesn't realize, though, is that in this country there is a whole network behind the scenes that works to silence people like you. And the fact that you're in contempt of court, in my view, doesn't mean that what was said in silence was a lie. No, the public, as I said, in the court, a public opinion, just read under his comments

on his own social media, read every comment. Every comment's telling him, we've seen the evidence. We saw it was you, lied, Pierce. it wasn't just that Pierce lied. Pierce should have, by now, come out after watching that documentary and seeing what he done to that young 15-year-old child Bailey, he should have come out and apologise. He can have his venom against me.

He can dislike me. He can despise me. Whatever problem he has with me, he can have. But he should have accepted when he's done Dan wrong, because he's done something very, very wrong. His reporting was wrong, his encouragement and his incitement of hate against a child was just wrong. And he hasn't held his hand up once.

He should have reached out to that child. That's what he should have done by now. But he hasn't. He's actually just carried on digging his own hole. It's like, mate, everyone's watched it. It doesn't really matter what you say, Pears. Everyone's watched it. And also, for someone who has a show called Uncensored,

and as I say, I have no personal issue with peers, he should be very concerned about the fact that there is a citizen journalist in this country who is banned from speaking about his journalism because of a contempt of court ruling. By the way, and I haven't spoken about this before, I am currently subjected to a gagging order from the high court which also means that I would be in jail for contempt of court I'm currently at the moment having to weigh up

is there a way to get the truth of this story out via America so this is not a one-off this is something now that the UK state under Slippery Stama is going to start using to shut down dissident voices and Pear should be so concerned about that even if he disagrees with silence right he should be so concerned about this is part of that Peir's is part of that.

Pierce is part of that machinery. Pierce is part of the establishment machinery. Always has been. Pretends he's not... Look, I said, when the grooming scandal went on at the height of it, Pierce Morgan was the editor of the Daily Mirror. Are we supposed to believe? We know that Andrew Norfolk tells us he knew it was going on.

We know that politicians knew. We know that the government knew. We know the police knew. We know everyone knew. We meant to believe that the lead ahead of the Daily Mirror had no idea and was not aware that these gangs were raping their way for our country. He knew.

He made a decision not to comment on in it He was weak and he continues to be weak And even when I went on with him In whatever year it was When I went on and we were discussing After the Manchester terrorist attacks Like Pierce keeps trying to make it personal about me And I'd rather talk about the issues

It's like when he keeps I keep watching him on these shows Talking about Like trying to take some moral high ground Because I've got a conviction for mortgage fraud It's like, mate My brother-in-law lied on a self-certification mortgage Yeah

Find me the man and I'll find you the crime. Pierce Morgan made fake images of our armed forces with Iraqi torture pictures and endangered Iran forces. He wants to talk about morals. He hacked dead kids' phones. Which he denies. He denies, but he's admitted it in multiple

interviews with other people and talking to them, which will come out in the court case. So, hacking dead kids' phones, I think the public can make their own mind up on who takes the moral seat here. The reality is, at the height of what should have been his journalism, he was a coward. and he continues to be. But at the same time, when I've come out and he has contacted me for the interview, there's lots of things he said

which are total lies about me. I know they are. So I would like to have a discussion with him about it, but on my terms, not on his terms. It's like, mate, I'll do talk shows with people who have, I feel, are the future of the media. I don't think Pierce is the future of media.

I think Pierce is a dinosaur and doesn't realize he's dying. I think, like, mate, you're old school, there's a new guard here, there's a new media here you're not going to be part of it what my issue is is that he's setting up the interview

on these very narrow terms saying he is only really going to question you about silence he only wants to question me about saying I'm not allowed to talk about yeah yeah because he wants you in prison now look it did kick off though

yesterday I've got to go through this back and forth I laughed all day by between you don't I laugh all day thank God for Elon Musk I was just like even now I'm laughing about I'm just like I'll shut well we've got that post actually. He responded

saying, laugh all you like Bottle Job, but the joke's on you. Your supporters can't believe you're too scared to be interviewed by me. Your response. I'm scared of Pierce Morgan, yeah. Piers, last time I went on in his show, just read

the comments. Go and pick up any of the news articles. It was the most watched episode of Good Morning Britain that's ever been, yeah? Go and read the comments. Just read the comments. Pears, read the comments under your own post that you posted there. Just read the comments, mate.

I embarrassed you, 167 million views. I exposed you to the world. And you said to him yesterday, the truth is worth going to prison for no regrets. He responded by that by saying, you literally went to prison for lying and breaching a court order not to repeat your lies. And I suspect the reason you're bottling my show

is because you know if you repeat the lies again, when I challenge you, you'll be back to prison. So we can see his intention. See, I didn't even read that. We're going to see his intention. But the reality is, my documentary was not my opinion. I didn't, when he says I lied, I wasn't in court for anything. I said, there were witnesses and there were school records.

There's nothing I've said, yeah? So let's not pretend I've sat there and said things, and I'm in court for lying, because it's not my opinion. There's a piece of journalism which the state has censored. They censored. They gagged the school teachers. They paid them $275,000. The documentary shot.

showed all this. See, when he's, he's still trying to argue. It's like, anyone who watched the film, there's no grey area, Piers. It's there, yeah? I didn't lie. Everyone knows I didn't lie. And it, don't you think, and when I say it was worth going prison for, I don't have any regrets. You know why I don't have any regrets? Because you know that poor child that had his life ruined, Bailey, he now walks the streets and people shake his hand. He now walks his hometown and all the people that turned on him and everywhere, he couldn't walk down the street. People want to kill him. So it was worth all of those months. in solitary.

It was worth it. It was worth it for, Bailey's a lovely kid from a difficult brick upbringing. Yeah. A really good kid. A really good life. He lived with me. I don't know if you know that. So when this happened at the school, this happened, he was 15.

I went up there, met his mum, his two little sisters. They had nowhere to live. They were hiding. I said, right, come back with me. I brought them all back to loot them. The mum, the two sisters and Bailey lived with me at my house for six months at the house. I had to watch the decay of the family, all the issues they were going through, all based on lies. the entire family broken all based on not just lies but shit journalism by wankers like

pierce morgan who who because it was a story just like he jumped on black lives matter just like he jumped on the vaccine just like he jumped on everything he jumped and tried to ride this wave of virtue whilst destroying kids lives and families lives without any evidence so what we know is 100% factual there was no racist attack at the school there was no criminal charges Bailey was cleared there was a reason Bailey done it we know all that

from the school records and the police records yeah that's not what Pierce Morgan portrayed to the public he demanded his words

had to pay him 100,000 pounds and damages when he sued you over the lies then you repeated your lies in your film

which breached court orders not to and went to jail for contempt no wonder you don't want me to interview you

hashtag botler hashtag botler abys 167 million people have seen it it doesn't matter what you say. It doesn't matter. Your credibility's shot. Absolutely shot, Piz. He says, I have the fastest growing YouTube new show in the world. I don't

need bottle job, Tommy, but he needs to stop hiding from me and do a proper interview. Not these endless, cozy chats with deluded sycophants who suck up to him. What's he scared of? What are you scared of? I'm scared of nothing. I'm scared of my mum, right? you should be not you peers right not you so i will when when the time's right for me and i'll be honest just speaking totally honestly here which peers is full aware of because i did contact him and let him know this yeah i've come out of jail seven months of solace of confinement i come out in not a great place again so i you would have seen i made a video where i said i'm taking two weeks back seat here yes i'm taking that time because i'm not right in myself and i know i'm not right

So, and it's like, Pearce, if you just sat in solitary confinement and you'd been through what I've been through and you're trying to deal with all the other problems that come with it, it's natural. I know what I'm going through as natural because I look at all the side effects of solace confinement and what it does. So I know what I was going through is natural, but I need to take some time to regain my own health and make sure I feel fit and make sure I feel myself again, which I currently still don't, really. No, I mean, so. And you all know. And I'm not going to underprepare because I'm going to make Pierce Morgan look like the school. boy that he is, yeah. I'm going to annihil him. This is the debate of your life. When I sit down with him, he's going to look like a fool that he is, like he did last time, to be honest. And he

shouted me down last time, but that's not going to wash any more. I want, I want, I's debate. I always have. I've never hid from any debate. I want to sit down and have a civilised adult discussion without someone just screaming buzzwords like racist or Islamophob and all this bullshit. It's embarrassing. What Pierce's done to me when I went on his show last time was the screaming of Islamophobe, Islamop because I was holding up the Quran and trying to explain the reason we were having the problems. Like, the public has shifted now. They understand

I was right on many of these issues. But you see that attitude that Pear's had against me, trying to silence discussion, trying to enforce blasphemy laws on the public that can't have a discussion around Islam. That same attitude that Pear's pushed on me is the reason that grooming gangs were allowed to

rake their way through this country. Because of people like peers. Because when you try to talk about it, you're racist, you're extremists. didn't see him saying that to Jordan Peterson. Since I've been out of jail, I've watched Jordan Peterson put him in his place. I've watched Gadsad putting him in his place. I've watched everyone put Piers in his place. Douglas Murray, Dave Rubin.

Other people who he respects. Other people who respects and he can't get his head around it. And Piers, my background is not perfect, yeah, which you keep going on about. I'm a normal working class kid from Luton Town. Made my mistakes. But I told the truth, Piers. You didn't, yeah? I stood on truth whether it meant you.

jail, prison, we had a motto during the whole English Defence League, which was death, prison or glory, we will not submit. You submitted, peers. You submitted to the corporations, you submitted to your bosses, you submitted to, you submitted to, you submitted to woke culture. You submitted. We didn't. And you hate us for that. But in America, they view us as not submitting and telling the truth. And that's what you can't get your head around. Because you're part of that class system who just looks down your nose upon us because we're working class. That's your problem, beers. And what he doesn't realize either is the Overton window in the UK is shifting dramatically too and we would get to that. But it is interesting you speak about your mental

health. I didn't want to sit down with you actually straight after prison. I'd obviously seen you in there in December. I think I've done one and I'll just and I couldn't stop It was very emotional but Liam was the right person. You know Liam Tavs he's one of your best friends but I think it was important for you actually to get some strength back because it was intense. I mean I saw you in there in December and actually at that point, you were okay, but I saw how intense that experience must be. Look, I want to talk about Elon Musk because this all came up again yesterday, given you was discovering these tweets for the first time. And it was quite extraordinary. I mean, he said, Piers's brain

hasn't received its software update yet. You responded saying, America thinks you're a joke. Can you just talk about exactly what's... The funny thing is, like, Pierce Morgan views me, hates me, football hooligan, thug, wrong and criminal. Richard's man in the world Imagine the fact that everyone that he's looked up to in respects He's just putting him in his place Just saying shut up here's like tommy phobia I absolutely just I spent all day yesterday

Just giggling and laughing And then giggling and laughing And picturing him kicking his cat across the room Or saying It's like peers man What is the situation with Elon Musk Because I want to get to the bottom of this Something definitely changed after he entered

The Trump administration Because he had been so vocal about you as you saw early in january he's stayed away from this area since but is it true that he is funding some of your court cases so i think so if you look at x and elon musk what they've said from the start with regards to free speech is that they will defend people who are in problem for exercising their free speech on that social media platform now my video that went had 167 million views was on X and I went to prison for 18 months for exercising my free speech on X. So I know I was in jail while all of this was going on.

So I know that Elon paid the legal fees for my attempt to get me out of solitary confinement because I felt that my mental health was, well, it was deteriorating. That's not my view. That was independent experts that come in and said, listen, he's now got complex post-traumatic stress disorder and it's going to continue to deteriorate the longer he's left in solitary confinement. So he took care of that. And I know that he looked at the, that we had to send, again, it's not just blind support. We had to send to lawyers the terrorism charge I face, which I think Americans were just

gobsmacked that I face a terrorism charge, being stopped with no suspicion of a crime at a border, and then being forced to give a six-hour interview with no right to remain silent about my legal and lawful activities and then be enforced as a journalist to hand over my phone and give them every bit of information that's on it so they can download it including every source of information

every person I've worked with everything which they don't have a right to do as a journalist so I think they were shocked for that so they agreed to so at that time because it's a free speech issue they agreed to take on the legal and so he's doing this at Virex yeah I've never spoke to it right

yeah I've never spoke to Ilomis would you like to? I'd love to shake the man's hand I'm very grateful do you know the moment? And you know, do you know what? I took a massive risk releasing that film.

I took a massive risk because I thought I could get killed in jail. If I'm honest, I got the injunction three years prior. I knew what the film showed. I knew the evidence I had.

I knew that it showed a far bigger story than Tommy Robinson story. As you've just said now, you face this gag in order. Do you know, Laura Luma? She can't talk about this publicly.

Do you know that, I don't know if I can name who took her to court, but there's lots of these Islamic organizations that have a lot of money behind them. just gag everyone, yeah?

So she faced losing everything. They gagged her. Look what they done, Steve Bannon through the courts. Alex Jones, a billion pounds, Gert Wilders, more than Messerschmitt, look what's just happened to Le Pen now. Anyone who has challenged this... Katie Hopkins, they took her house,

they ruined her life, they all simultaneously on the same day. It's organised. Lawrence Fox, Lawrence, Robin Robinson. It's everyone, yeah? So we know what happened. So this story was far bigger than me, and this story proved

the corruption and weaponisation of the judiciary and how it's used as a weapon and the lengths that the state will go to to control the narrative and that narrative for me was about this story yeah but that's any narrative transgenderism even when it was BLM COVID vaccines you get in their way they're going to crush you and they're going to set an example yeah and and whether it be prison whether it be bankruptcy so they've got everyone scared so I knew the film showed that but if I'm honest I'd live my life from the start of my activism in 2009 when I entered into the English Defence League and talking about Islam, I knew that if you put one foot in, you're never going to bring about

change. If you worry about consequence, you're not going to bring about change. So I never worried about consequence. So I just went, right, full sleep my head. And I've done that. And that's been my, well, I'm doing it. And we'll see what happens. And I worry about when I'm in jail or I worry about when I'm dead. So I just carried on. But then, because of the effect I had a solitary confinement in 2018, where I went into jail, one person, come out another. I had a devastating impact on my life with alcohol, with my marriage, everything. So all that went on. Yeah, all that went on.

Is it when you start thinking about the impact on your marriage? I'm a family, yeah, on my family, on everyone. Do you still regret the end of your marriage? Yeah. Do you think there is a way back? The lads we think they've been in a dog house, which I've done, man. I was a bad husband, so it's my moment. fault.

And Israel Levant speaks even this week about the fact that he worries for your family because he worries about the fact that at some point they might be having to deal

with life without you. Yeah so when it come to releasing the film obviously look I come out court given the injunction and I didn't do what I should have done, and I should have walked out of court, I should have told Justice Nicklin, you're a fat fraud, and I should have played the film. That's what I should have done. Now, if you look at Karm, the way life works, if I would have done that... Because how do you

think that would have changed things? No, because for three years, I left the UK after my divorce, and I didn't play the film, but it ate me up. It just continually et me up. And it was only after... So everything would have just happened a lot soon. I don't think it would have happened the way it's happened. So in hindsight, it's the best thing that could have happened was those, that three year, because it wouldn't have gone the way it went. It wouldn't have got 167 million views. I wouldn't have played it to 100,000 people in Trafalgar Square. It worked down.

And also, we wouldn't have had that week in January, the start of January, which changed everything. So you know when that happened, I was in jail, no, but I released the film, but I was scared, that's the truth of it. I was scared. I was scared because of the impact, not on me, my mental health, but I was scared because of the impact on my kids

and I felt like I was letting them down by making a decision to go to jail. But then I sat my kids down. I spoke to them about it. I just said, I need to do it. I need to do it. Did they understand?

Yeah, they're getting older now. And I tell you what, it's a beneficial place to be now because they get to see where we are. They get to see the support and love get shown. So you misunderstand your wife doesn't? No, she does.

As I've said, I was a bad husband. So it's not, it's, my wife stood by me for everything. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm not criticizing her, my God. So it's not that she doesn't understand. Obviously, her life's been turned. Upside Down, threats, moved to house eight times, all these different things. But I think that at that time, yeah, I said, do you know what?

So when my daughter was at school with BLM hit off, my daughter had a real hard time. Lots of her friends were black as well. And most of my friends were black growing up. But there was lots of, but they all really isolated and turned on her. Those same kids now, because I rang her the other day on FaceTime, and they're all like, Tommy, yes, we're all coming. Yes. They're all supporting. But the point that you're making, and I think it is something that is so important,

because, I mean, what we faced in 2020 for speaking up against narrative, which was in terms of COVID, in terms of vaccines, but critically, even in the United Kingdom, in terms of Black Lives Matter, was extreme. People forget, because the Overton window has shifted so much in five years, and now it's shifted. Now it's shifted. You see so many people finding courage. And I need to follow my, I said it yesterday,

I need to swallow my bitter pill because I get a bit bitter and I look at people now screaming about these issues and just think, you weren't talking about this issue. It's now quite cool to talk about it. It's now okay to be angry about migration. It's now okay to be angry about Islam. It's okay to talk about these things.

It wasn't 10 years ago, it wasn't five years ago. It was difficult. This one tears me up a bit too. I have to be honest, because yes, you do want people to come on board. Of course you do. What I think frustrate me is when I see people who pretend that they were always there, when they don't own up to the fact that actually a few years ago,

you were trying to cancel me. That's the point. You weren't just silent, but you were the ones parroting, racist, far right? Yes. He's dangerous. Yes. But this is a really difficult issue to deal with, though. And I want to speak to you about it in regards to GB News and talk to him.

because these are obviously two mainstream media platforms that I certainly in the case of GV News helped to create because I thought it was very important that the Overton window in this country's mainstream media shifted. I think you could argue that was achieved. It's extraordinary to me though. Four years on, I'm sitting here and they will interview Bonnie Blue. They will interview hard left Islamic extremists on a daily basis. Racist. Anti-white racist. I was coming to that, like Narenda

Kor and Bushra Sheikh on a regular basis, but they will not interview you. You remain cancelled and lots of people say, well Dan, on the whole it's a bit like the Reform UK discussion which we'll have later. You know, Dan, come on

like on the whole these channels are good things. I just don't know if I believe that anymore. When we still live in a world. I mean, I look very closely at the coverage of you on GB News and talk TV. The moment the Sun released that footage of you being arrested at Luton Airport, it was leading their news bulletin. 24 hours earlier when you had joined Advance UK, Ben Habib's party, a huge moment in British politics, radio silence. So how do you feel about the fact that yes, the Overton window is changing, but these

bands in the mainstream media. I mean, the Sun, where I was executive editor, right? And I know the Sun readers, better than virtually any person in this country. I love the Sun readers. But I read The Sun today. They still describe you as a far-right thug in their coverage.

No one cares what they say anymore, though. That's their problem. Do you know, like Julie Hartley-Bruar talk TV, like, I see her talk down about me. She used to contact me. All of these people, in fact, I'm not going to name them, yeah? Go on. I could pull up my DMs now.

That's what we do here. I could pull up my DMs now from GB News. Yeah. Some of the people on there who since 2017 have been messing me about how they've been inspired and they've done this and they've actually gone down that path because of this. And then I see them sitting there saying negative things. I just think that's not true. So for me, it's like some people feel the need to kick me to be able to talk about this issue. And John, I don't mind.

And that's where I need to swallow my bit of my bitter pill. But see, I do mind. So for me, I think one of the things that I hate most is if I, and no one will ever find an example of me doing this ever, because I never have. It's like, oh God, we're about to talk about Tommy Robinson or Katie Hopkins. So we have to do that qualifying sentence beforehand, which is, I don't agree with most of what they say.

But no, no, no, I'm not okay with that anymore. It's weak, it's gutless, you don't have to do it. And by the way, people like me prove that there is life after the mainstream media. Which is good to see. Which is good to see. I love this. I love seeing people who have tried to cancel. You know, Dapper laughs.

Yes, love him. I look what they've done to him. Oh, it was revolted. Do you imagine how broken he was? Yes. Because I know what it's like, yeah? I know it's like to be cancelled, censored and have your voice taken and hit rock bottom. There's nothing worse.

Nearly killed Greg Wallace just two weeks ago. That's what I mean. And so I know it's like, so when you see someone punch back, I see Dapper and I watch him, I think, I can love it, mate, selling out arenas. I look at Katie Hopkins, selling out arenas, loved. You've got your new show, you're flying, do I mean? It's great. But the threats remain.

And so, yes, we're in a much better place than we were five years ago, right, when Katie Hopkins actually had to leave the country. Threats do remain, though. I don't know if you've seen just in the past week, but the off-communists, as I described, them. They now want to start controlling YouTube. So what they want to do is say well there's that but it's even

more chilling than that. What they want to do is say we want to force YouTube into prioritising content from public service broadcasts. What does that mean? The British bashing corporation Wokai TV, sly news channel 4 news. So they actually

now, it's so chilling they actually want to come in and fuck with the algorithm effectively so that this interview, for example, would be pushed down the algorithm, but what people in the United Kingdom would receive would be a negative report, for example, from the BBC about your arrest. Google my name and it's just to every negative thing. But you see what you're saying there. I got arrested last week, then I obviously would get on to that. When I got arrested, I was detained under three to, I was arrested and questioned under three tweets. One of the tweets was

one of the tweets was a daily mail article. It was a daily mail article that said about a school in East London was it where English is not the first language for any of the pupils in the school it was a daily mail article I shared it they arrested me for that article

so my solicitor said hold on a minute in interview she said it's a daily man arkel why aren't you arresting them if you've got a problem with it and she said are they're protected so basically this new law

means that government recognised media are exempt from this law of prosecution for mistakes, anything like this, yeah? So if they run a story that's, they're exempt, but we can be arrested. Yeah, because they don't count citizen journalists. And by the way, I've worked with these people. These people, on the whole, are shills who just want to take the paycheck. And I look at what's been happening up and down this country over the past three months.

And I am actually inspired. And remember, I'm someone who's come through the mainstream media world. was executive editor of the sun. Do you know who inspires me, journalistically today? It is the young people on the ground. On the street, it's great, isn't it? Outside the migrant hotels.

He speaks freely. Jack Hatters. Jack Hatter's. Eddie Alexander. They are very, I mean, and there's a whole load more that I close. Based in bougie.

You know, amazing, amazing people. Now, to me, they are more when it comes to journalistic credibility than someone who sits in a Westminster briefing and parrots what the government see. Do you know if we didn't have citizen journalism? Do you know the whole Epping situation where they bust in Antifa? Well we don't know they bust in Antifa because they lied about it. None of the media would have told you that. Do you know if we didn't

have citizen journalism we didn't have X? Then when the riots went on after Southport, the Muslims that were attacking people in every town city, China and al-Aqbar in their hundreds with basal rats and swords, but none of the public would have known that. So Elon Musk's role is incredibly important because the British public now have a platform for discussion, but not just that, a platform for education, a platform for the reality of the situation. But I get real, I get real happy looking at the new media as well. That's why I think on my first, was it the first demonstration in London? I'd give a platform to promote and I'd probably do it on the next one. We give press passes and the

daily mail contacted on the, at the, um, July 27th one, daily mail, so we had a way of contacting us for press passes and they contacted. I should apply to him, fuck off. See you later. You ain't getting a press pass. The TikTokers are getting. press passes, the YouTubers are getting press passes, the citizen journalists who are going to come, and even if they're against us, but they're going to live stream and have discussions, not cutting out of it.

Fox Populi, doing great stuff. Resistance G.B. doing great stuff. Lotus Eaters doing great stuff. Lewis Brackle. Oh, my, Tusi, he's the original in the best, doesn't he? Got his independent media festival tomorrow, actually, which I'm very excited about. He's bringing a whole load of us together

for the first time in central London. Things are changing. On the protest, Tommy, we've got a, big night ahead, a big weekend ahead. 14 hotel migrant protests planned. That clashes with this Palestine action event on Saturday. So this is where Palestine Action, which is now officially prescribed as a terrorist group,

wants to flood the demonstration so that police are so overwhelmed that they couldn't arrest all of them. Police are saying that they could arrest up to 500, or at least there's prison places for up to 500. Talk, Palestine action might try and get 3,000 demonstrators. Britain is on the brink, isn't it? But then if you look at the mainstream media, which I have been this week, people like the fake news agents, Lewis Goodall, BBC Newsnight are saying,

all that's changed is the language, actually. The language of the far right, nothing has actually changed up and down this country. Do you think things have fundamentally changed and that Brits are finally waking up to the threat that we face? It's changed and it's never going to change back. People are awake. People are awake and they realise the danger of the country faces. They realise that the future for their children.

The safety of their children is a jeopardy. They realise that. There's no hiding from it. It used to be confined to towns like Luton. So when we used to speak about it, not everyone saw it. It's not confined to towns like Luton because they've flooded hotels in every area. Look what's happening in Bournemouth. Look what's happening across the UK.

So they can't hide it anymore, thanks to citizen journalism, thanks to social media. They can't hide it. The thing I would say is that you see all these protests, nearly made this mistake with Epin, where I said I was going. Yes. I think that organisations need to stay away, probably even political parties need to stay away. They need to leave them as grassroots, local community. Truly local, because that's what was so incredible about Epi.

And I'm sure you also saw the scenes outside the Britannia Hotel and Canary Wharf. These amazing mums, right? Dressed in pink, doing the conga. And it's so effective, Tommy, because it's like, how on earth can these people be branded for a ride? Men turned up there with balaclavs on. Don't do that. Take your balaclavas off. Do not do it because you're going to discredit the hard work that those local people were putting in to be taken seriously.

And half the time, some of the people covering their faces are probably government agencies that are coming in in order to discredit. Yes. Like they busts Antifa, isn't it? Like they bust Antifa in. If you look at the Stockport, after Stockport incident, if you look at the riots in Sunderland when they burned down the police station, it's all people, six, seven of them all head to toe in black, can't see any of their skin who went and set fire to a police station. Who are they? No one's ever arrested. They're never charged.

If you look at the Google special demonstration squad, the government have squads that infiltrate legitimate protest movements in order to entice violence like what happened on January 6th. In order to do that, then the media act as a weapon to discredit the protesters, it's exactly what they tried to do at Epping, but they failed miserably because of a citizen journalist. So you're convinced it was the right call for you not to...

It was definitely the right call for me to stay away from Epping. Because if I'd have gone, it would have made it about me, and it was not about me. It's about the 14-year-old school girl that got sexually assaulted by the migrants. If I'd have gone, it would have given... of the ammunition and by the media to just continue to attack them. Do you think this shows

a new found maturity in the way that you approach your public role? Because let's be honest, in the past you would have gone. Yeah, I would have gone and I said I was going because I act quite a lot of time

if people realise I act out of impulse and I watched a video of some girls saying and it was a young girl and her mum said, Tommy, can you please come? And they wanted your help and it was very inspiring. So I didn't want to let them down

and I thought if I can come and bring 3,000 or bring thousands of people, but at the same time, as well what people need to know if you're organising these protests. The reason when the riots went on, you have to liaise with the police and you should, just telling you know, the reason being, if you don't, you're given the opportunity. Do you remember St George's Day, the demonstration in London that happened where there was clashes? That's because there wasn't liaison and agreement with the police to where protesters were going to be, where they were going to march, where

they were going to congregate. So then the police shut up a roadblock where they get their riot shields out and then you've got protesters walking down that road and they're blocking the road, but that's because there's no agreement. They can't do that when you have an agreement. So I've learned, remember, I've held 80 national demonstrations. I know how to negotiate with the police over issues. I know how to make sure they're peaceful events now and how to try and change the atmosphere of the event because there's a lot of anger out in our country in a minute

and it's justified anger. It's justified. But you do not want a rudderless ship, which is what we saw after Stockport. The reason why you don't want rudderless ship and people say, yeah, but we have a right to be angry and they're not listening, I get it. I was one of the people 20 years ago,

I was one of the people who put on a bar of clava and charged for the streets of Lewin, yeah? Because we were angry with the takeover of our town, with the rape of our daughters, with the prostitution, with the terrorism, and we weren't being listened to. But at the same time, each one of these events, British men who are stepping out a line and getting angry, justified anger sometimes, yeah,

and they step over the line, they're ending up locked in jail, I'm speaking to their families, they're being targeted by all the Muslims, they're being battered, so I don't want to see young men make mistakes. And when those riots were going on, it's young kids.

And I remember saying at the time, lads, where's the men? Get their masks off them. Get their mask off of them. Do you know what they fear? They won't fear. They want you to do those little riots. Then they come down and shut it down.

They'll fear when you win the hearts and minds of the entire country. And trust me, the entire country is fed up with immigration. The entire country is fed up with Kirstama. So to win the hearts and minds of them, they will fear you when you are coordinated and you are peaceful. And you show that you can control that crowd. Totally. And we're seeing that fear.

And I'm loving it because they do not know how to deal with. it. No, it's like... Whereas last year, it was so easy to show them to say, far right thugs, racists, lock up Lucy Connolly,

lock up Wayno Rock. The best thing is that was all meant to scare us. That was meant to scare you in silence. Like my prison sentence of solid confinement was probably meant to stop me. Fucking wake up.

It's not going to work. And our event in Trafalgar Square, which we had over 100,000 people there, the next one probably nearly 200,000 people, which was a show of defiance from the British public

after they used the judicial to scare everyone thinking it would stop the protests. And at that time, do you know when I was away? I didn't think I had it in me to organise another protest. I was worried, I was scared, I knew I was going to jail. But I felt it was massively important for the public to know that they can still protest. Because people then, what they wanted you to do is think

you can't talk on social media at all, you'll end up in jail and you can't protest because they treat their fingers of riot. So October 26th, what you done, which again, do you know, when I was arrested, obviously the event was on 26, I got detained on the 25th at Felix, so. When I'm in the police station, I'm sitting in my cell in the morning, and pictures are coming under the cell,

and they're printing pictures out of our demonstration, the police officers are. And then the door opens at 11 a.m. It's the police woman with live TikTok on her phone. She said, look, how many are there, Tommy? This is the cop. Look how many are there, Tommy? And then when I come out for the interview at 6 o'clock,

and this is why I've seen a massive change, I come out for the interview at the phone call at 6 o'clock. There's two sergeants there. I said, right, I just used the phone. they said you fucking nailed it lads you nailed it no trouble because they heard me on the phone earlier and they saying the message is no trouble so again i need to stress which i'm going to stress in the build up to his next demonstration it's not a piss up right it's not don't get on the coach with 30 lads at 8 in the morning start drinking beer there's always one out of the 30

probably used to be me yeah there's always one that gets a little bit out of control that man needs to be rained in you need we need to control ourselves and i'm thankful to the football lads at each one of these events, yeah? But football lads get a bad name. And I think it's the football lads that will step forward each time. And we'll each time step forward who are hardworking, decent men, but who are not afraid either.

But they don't run around acting like morons like some people do at demonstrations. They'll keep them in line. So we've managed to keep our own supporters in line. If there's any problems, I said to the police in the first meetings, when we had the first meeting for the first demonstration at Parliament Square, I sat down and it was, and in the briefing, because they weren't letting us do anything.

This is what they always do, yeah? So I said, right, lads, let me tell you what we'll do. I said, I'm going to pick the same day and same time as a Palestinian march, and I'm going to organise a march on Tower Bridge. And I know the rules, because I've done it with the EDL. You can't stop us. As a static protest, you can't stop it, yeah? But I don't actually want to do that, yeah?

But we do want to have a voice. So we'd rather pick a day where there's no other demonstrations. We'd rather work with, and if Antifa want to be here, I'll tell you what, we'll go 10 miles that way, yeah? So we don't want to see them. but to do this we want a screen we want a family atmosphere we want permission and the police were great

and I said lads and what I'm going to ask you and we have an agreement by what we record everything and I'm going to hold and then the MET police have been great they've been great but we were at war with them basically before that when I say we, patriots patriots come under attack

if they're held a demonstration now in this meeting with the police they said we don't want to see you just being honest we are we don't need to see you you don't need to have riot police what we'll do is, and this is what we do now, we go through the route and say, where's the flashpoint, where's a possible flashpoint?

And the flashpoint's there, and it's a side road where that's where their demonstration is. There may be a flashpoint. I say, right, we'll put 100 stewards there. So as our crowds walk past this way, there'll be a hundred of our people line in that street, and they will make sure no one gets through, because our supporters won't attack our own stewards. And our stewards that come forward, and if you've been a steward,

thank you, yeah? Because the success of these events is thanks to you. It's not just thanks to me, and it's not just thanks to you, it's thanks to the commitment of our supporters who have showed absolute respect for the people who are arsonomed and these are all volunteers so we form our own barrier which means there's no clash for the police and basically say to please stay away yeah because if you come out and wear riot shield it's going to provoke for yes and do you know when I watch the demonstration back and I see little kids clapping the police and we thank the police afterwards and said thank you for today because we've had a very successful

day peaceful and the reason why I worry because I know who's coming in our demonstrations middle-aged women, many of them, 60, 78-year-old women, young children. We need to make sure there's a safe environment for those people to come and have a demonstration, which the police have, again, in the last three events, four events, it's been a total success. And that's been a total success because we go in for weeks and weeks and weeks of planning. I was in London last week. Obviously, that's when that incident happened at St. Pancras. I met all day with the police.

And there's a lot of planning behind it and a lot of organisation behind it. but also we've come we've the tarnishing and the lies just don't work it's like when you've got caught 200,000 people there and then your headlines come out

and call them far right hoodoos but they've all been there they now know your liars on every issue and they're outraged by it but again I'll just say that again I say it's a lads this is going to be the biggest

the biggest political patriotic gathering this country's ever seen don't do not let us down do not puck it up You don't fuck it. Do not fuck it up. Do not fuck up.

And if anyone's wearing a balaclava or mask, we will take it off of them. Because this is an Overton window shifting moment. It's a shifting moment. And there's a lot of people who would love to see you fall flat on your face. Tommy, stand by, because of course we are a new show. We're going to get to the news and then I'll come to you to react. Breaking right now, Reform UK under growing pressure after being accused of going woke with their new female MP. Sarah Poachan defying Nigel Farage and saying that digital ID is something she has no problem with.

What do you feel about ID cards? Digital ID cards. Is that something that Reform UK would support? Well, look, I personally don't have a problem with an ID card. I don't see what the issue is. Most of our ID, most of our information now is on our smartphones anyway. And we trust the system, though? well what more how much more could we be at risk as I say all of our information is out there in a cloud in the ether whatever you want to call it it's all available isn't it we can all be tracked now if somebody wants to track us no you cannot trust the system you cannot trust the system terra potion do not get it as i posted on x everything i've warned for months about reform UK has exploded this week. Now a centrist party of the establishment. In just one week, I've said

they are four digital ID, four men and women's prisons, four site tests of its candidates, four party NDAs to take away free speech, anti-mass deportations. How depressing. Tommy Robinson, you endorsed Reform UK before the last election. So did I. I was very open about the fact that I voted for that party. I believe that Nigel Farage will be Prime Minister. I was actually the first to predict it that he'll be Prime Minister in 2020. That's already chosen. but what is going on with this very clear move to the left? And again, I know a lot of people get angry for us even having this discussion.

This is the problem. A lot of people can get angry and I understand why, because they see the only hope in reform as challenging the Conservatives and Labour Party. Is that true? The government... Are they the only hope? No.

No, I don't believe there are... There's any hope in reform. I don't believe, and that's going to upset some people. I wish there was. Yeah, I really wish there was. I wish that Nigel Fragge would have took up the baton for the voiceless community The majority of this country in recent polls have said they're concerned And they do not believe Islam is compatible with the West

Yeah, they do not believe it's because it's not yeah Nigel Farge and Reform were banning anyone talking about it And then people make the excuse of well they're just waiting until they get in Well Gertvilders didn't wait till he got in Gertvilders won the Dutch elections by being brave, fearless and telling the truth the whole time Donald Trump Donald Trump did not pander and start becoming weak And people say anyway, he's just trying to get into office

He's trying to appeal to the mainstream. We are the mainstream. The mainstream British public that are voting for reform. All the people are voting for reform are voting for them because they want mass deportations. They're fed up of Islam. They're fed up of this transgender nonsense.

They're fed up of these things. It's why they're voting for them. But they're voting for... The country's primed and ready for populist revolution politically. And we get a party that betray and go back on everything. And not just that.

How are you going to tackle the Islamisation of this country? Some people don't want to hear this. We're a Muslim chairman of your party. Do you think Marie Le Pen would have a Muslim chairman of her party in France? Do you think Gert Wilders would? Do you think any of the leading, do you think the AFD, alternative for Deutschland, who want remigration, who won 21% of the vote? Do you think they would?

The Swedish Democrats, when I started activism, won 1% and now on 24%, yeah? They're not got Muslim leaders, right? Because they've got to tackle the Islamisation. And they've got to do things to do that. And at the minute, there was a fancy dinner for reform a few months ago. It was before, whilst I was in jail and I knew someone, a businessman that was going to that, going to that meal,

it was 25,000 pound a ticket. Do you know the whole head table of Reform's meal with Nigel Frudge, Pakistani Muslims? So, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but didn't they just take a million pounds yesterday from a World Economic Forum, Muslim? Yeah?

It's like, you can't, Nigel flip-flop for arch. He changes on everything. For me, your party don't believe in free speech. You don't believe in democracy. So when people are saying, yeah, but we need, we need reform. Reform are filling themselves with all the ex-tories, net zero, pro-net-zero people, pro-net-zero politicians. Remainers. Remainers.

Left-wingers. Labor, liberal, they're filling all the council. It's just the same bullshit. It's like the country's ready for political revolution to get rid of these absolute traitors in parliament, and you're filling your whole party with the same traitors that were in parliament. Well, he actually told the new statesman the other day, and I've Raj this is, that he wants Reform UK to be to the left of the Conservative Party on immigration by the next election. I saw it. I've seen it all. But reform voters don't want to hear this.

And reform members don't want to hear this. And I'm sorry, but it's the truth. I'm sorry. Do you know what? And we did support reform. That's the thing. Even when I, and I said it on the show at the time. But when I came to see you in H&P Woodhill in December, Nigel Farage had just launched those attacks on you. and I thought it was important that you had an opportunity to respond in some way even though you were behind bars but you were very clear to me

you didn't at that point want to attack reform you didn't want to attack Nigel all you said is that you wanted them to stop their attacks on you that was your message even at that point and a lot's changed since then I guess

well a lot's changed in the fact of Shemina Beggnam Nigel will let her come back when you think about that they'll let women men go into women's prisons they'll they they the demographic change he doesn't care about no now i'm sorry white english white brits by the current trend will be minority by 2041 that's unacceptable it's not racist to say that it's unacceptable it would be unacceptable for black nigerians to become a minority in nigeria it would be unacceptable for the japanese to become a minority in japan it's unacceptable for white british to become a minority in britain the

demographic replacement that's replacing us is not black, it's not Hindu, it's not Sikh, because their birth rates are exactly the same as ours. It's Islamic demographic. Now, what does Nigel do? Zia Yusuf buys a seat for £200,000. Now, at the same time, this is where I don't want to go down to rabbit hole, but Marie Le Pench has been banned from standing for election, right? Did you see that? Did you see what for? Do you see what for? Did you see what for? So basically... Yes, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, parliament. Is that what you mean?

Using money when she was in the European Union. So when she had the European Union, using the money that's given to the European Union because they get big money. It's basically just a big Ponzi scheme. They all get to keep money. Using that for the home, for French elections. Nigel Flaj was under investigation for exactly this.

And is again. It's gone. So Nigel Flaj in 2019, I believe, was under investigation for exactly this. But parliamentary authorities are investigating him again now. It was interesting. They probably aren't now he's gone full woke. Well, I spoke to the agreement.

I spoke to Alex Phillips about this. And she said that is the number one concern about how the establishment are going to try to stop. They're not going to try and stop him. He is them. They might have been trying to stop him, but now he's part of them. So that's what I mean. If you look at his, what's changed?

But her point would be, and I'm interested in your view on this, that this is why Nigel had to change. Because there is no. What about doing to Marine? He's joined the club. There's no chance of him becoming prime minister unless he does bend to their will.

Do you think that is a fair argument at all? Because there's a lot of people within reform who say, They're all saying that. Just trust us. Yeah, they're all saying that. You know, just trust us. Yeah, they're all saying that. You don't buy that.

No, it's bullshit. Trump didn't do it. Bill just didn't do it. In fact, they just stayed to truth. Le Pen will win the next elections, yeah? Wherever they stop her, her number two will win. If you look at the trend, it might take another four years. But she's never bent.

These people have never been. Nigel's bending on every issue. Would you rather have Nigel Farger's Prime Minister than slippery Stama? Would I rather? Yeah. Just telling the truth. Yeah, I would, yeah. I think this country needed Kirstama.

Now, I think we need a Kirstama to help part of the process of the mass awakening of people. I think we needed it. Can we survive eight years of it? Probably not. We've probably lost the country by that point. But what's Nigel doing it going to do when he gets in? If he's banning people from talking about his life, If he's kicking people out for having a view on transgenderism,

if he's already making the people sign NDAs, anyone who stands as an MP or counsellor has to sign that they won't mention my name. Psychiatric testing. But they're not allowed to mention my name. Do you believe in free speech or not? And I made my opinion. No, they don't.

I think they're quite clear they don't. Yeah, they don't. Then it comes to... And where the hell is he a Yusuf come from? Well, where's he come from? How has he spent 200 grand and got a seat at the head table? And how on earth does he go from effectively being sacked by for... Within 48 hours, back in a position as powerful,

even though he threatened to blow the whistle on racism within Reform UK. It's insane. But I want to talk to you about London, because obviously this city is in deep, deep trouble. It is my city, and it's very depressing to see. There was a lot of hope that Aunt Middleton, who is speaking, I believe, at United Kingdom. There was a lot of hope that he was.

aligning himself with reform UK. I mean, he even attended the inauguration, Trump's inauguration with Nigel Farage and Nick Candy. Nigel weren't in there. No, no, no, but he was in, they were at what, he's sort of at the party at Washington, D.C., but no, Nigel wasn't at the actual inauguration itself. Nigel didn't get into any of the actual in the inauguration. I think after his spat with Elon Musk, I think he was left out. Yeah, Katie Hopkins said that. No, he was left out. Yeah, he didn't get in. He was over there. Now, he went over there thinking he was going to it and just got pretty much sideline from what I understand. And you think that was because

he didn't back you? No, I think it's because... And you're on must. No, I don't think it was to do with not backing me. I think it was to do with showing absolute cowardice and betrayal with free speech. So it didn't have to be... It wasn't about me. It was about the fact that he should have stood up for free speech

and he made a decision to instead stand up for free speech, come on the side of the establishment and attack and trying to destroy someone who was exercising that free speech. So I think that's what it's about. But of course, what's happened with that Middleton is shockingly predictable. but I still think we need to talk about it because the moment

the moment that he started talking about you on social media, Reform UK started distancing itself from him. Now Tommy they are briefing to Tim Shipp and the political editor of the spectator, you know, great guy but a very

establishment journalist, that the person who they have chosen to replace Aunt Middleton is a la Cunningham. Now she seems great. I've heard she's good. Tommy, she is another Muslim. Is that an issue? It's probably an issue for Lee Anson,

because Leansson was on record as saying that Sadiq Khan can't get the city away to his friends, as in Muslim friends. And that's what forced him to leave the Conservative Party? The Anson said, so what's his view now? Is Leila Khan and the Muslim lady are going to give it to her friends? Look, London...

Do you think, how do you feel about the fact that Aunt Middleton put what would have been a very easy path to Parliament or City Hall, how do you feel about the fact that he put you and supporting you ahead of that? Because report must have been mortified. Again, I think it shows the character of Ant Middleton.

He's a very strong man, and that's what this country needs. It needs strong men, not weak men, and it needs principled men. So Ant Middleton, and if you look at what he said, he didn't speak about me having a perfect history. He spoke about my journalism of what he's watched and my investigations,

and he said that it was important work. And Ant doesn't have a person. no it doesn't know it isn't and who does who does Nigel doesn't no trust me right that's shit I've got on him what do you mean I've got so much man he's a snake he's a rat I've got loads again again only only when but are you talking about professionally you're talking about politically I'm talking about personally politically financially I'm talking about all of it the man surrounds himself with money launderers for the cartels it's it's like

fraudsters but yet he keeps having a kick at me and not just keeps having a kick at me I know everything about his sordid personal life and I've made sure I know everything and I've had to know I think because he's sitting on national TV telling people that I've got convictions for violence against women my ex-wife whilst I'm sat on structural confinement is having to put a statement out and explain to my kids

when they go to school people might be saying your dad's violent against me it's because of Nigel Frarch he put my family in such a shit position at the worst moment in my life because he's a coward who's tried going on the attack on behalf of the establishment. So up until this point,

I'd never attack Nigel Fudge. I just kept saying, stop attacking us. Stop attacking us. But I know so much about him now. And again, I don't even want to, I don't want to waste my time on it.

I've always say, I don't want to waste my time on that. And unfortunately, I don't want to upset all the reform supporters or members, because I know many of them see the only solution. There's a lot who love United Kingdom as well. And I want people to know that.

Okay, well, what about this thing? On, sorry, you finish your life. On September 13th, it's not going to be an anti-reform. No, no, no. I'm not going to talk about reform. No. It's nothing to do of reform. But on Ant Middleton, though,

could he still be mayor of London? Yeah, I hope he is, and I hope the whole British public back him. He's standing as an independent. People are saying, well, she has... So what, so he's going to stand as an independent? Yeah, he's standing, yeah. Yeah, he's standing.

And he's got, from what I understand, he's got it all set. And you would back him? Oh, back him 100%. London needs a strong man. England needs a strong man. Britain needs a strong man. Look at his past.

Look at it. He is the strong, staunch leadership that capital, city needs to get rid of the lawlessness, to bring it in order, to give the police confidence, to break down the criminals, to give the city back to the good Laura Biden citizens of that city. Look at the state of our capital city. Look at the crime rates, the rape rates, all through the immigration. Look at all of it. It needs a strong man. Now, people say, I've seen the excuse from a reform vote saying, but she needs to appeal to the Muslim vote. Muslims make up 15% of

London. 15%. Right. It's still another 85%. Okay. Now, we need to stop looking at that people people who voted when to start looking at the people who didn't vote. Because Keistama got voted in on 9 million votes. 18 million people didn't vote. Nigel's not doing any effort, I don't think, or reform to try and get those people. In fact, he's alienating with all his bullshit policies. But he's not, he's going for the left.

He's going for the left, he's going for the Muslims. He knows, and they know, they, the establishment, know that people are fed up with this, because they're fed up with Labour. So reform could be called whatever it wants under any new name. As the only opposition, that's what people are going to vote for. So the trend

seeing so when people say about advance i think nigel doesn't care because it's not going to affect his vote or his membership he can do all this woke bullshit yeah because there's no other option that that's why i think it's so important that advance uk well i was going to ask you about this so so so what happened because when i saw you in december you were very clear that you didn't view joining a political party as part of your future ben habib launches advance uk he says it's not a left or a right wing party, but it's very clear on the issues that you are most passionate about. He is very much to the right of Reform UK. How did those discussions take place? And what made you change your mind and decide to actually say, no, no, no, I am going to

join a political party, which is a change in strategy. Well, I looked at Nigel, and I looked at reform, and I looked at all their changing policies, mass deportations, demographical change, Shemina Begnum, transgender issues. They've gone back on everything. Because there's no opposition to them. So they don't care. Now, the Brexit party forced a conservative party on issues. There needs to be a party that's going to force reform back into their position and start representing the public in what they wanted them for originally. So then I looked at, I looked at advanced UK. I looked at, I looked at UK. I think Nick Tenconi is probably the best newcoming face and activists that I've seen. I think it does some brilliant work. But I looked at what UKIP

done at the same time, this is just being honest, and it's nothing to doing Nick Tenconi, but what they done to Gerard Batten and what the NEC within that party, which Nigel Fragge controlled at the time and made sure that they closed the party down. He stopped any opportunity for a populist party that represented the working class. They went, they tripled, Gerard Batten tripled their membership and they shut him down and got rid of him.

It didn't make sense, right? It was an attack by the establishment to close down any opportunity. So I looked at that. I looked at Howard Cox. I looked at some great representatives who were kicked out of reform for speaking up, not personally about me, but about issues I'd stood on, and they lost their

they worked every day for years for a political party, I need to get the boot. I looked at the treatment of Rupert Lowe when I come out. I looked into it. It's disgusting. Because he's a great man. He's brilliant. I was wishing that when this advance launched

that it would be Rupert Lowe and Ben Abed. I was thinking, please be Rupert. And bin Habib did ask Rupert to become leader. That's what I was hoping it was. And again, I'll say again, I don't want to be involved in politics. But I believe, after seeing the way that our supporters were described,

by Richard Tice at our event. So he said that lot? That lot. The most derogatory, that lot, irrelevant, yeah? The same way he spoke about Ben Abed. Look at what Ben Abed gave to. So I just look at the way Nigel Farage has treated everyone, yeah? And the betrayal of them.

And then I saw that there's a political party that, and there needs to be. So I looked at, I looked at advance. And there's a couple of people that have helped me tirelessly in the background with my films, my work. Probably some of the best people I've ever met in my life, people I'd try. trust and I knew that they're heavily involved in advance. I had lots of conversations with them, lots of conversations of what their goals are. And then I think that the United Kingdom movement

needs a political party that's going to support their views and support those people and give a voice to them. I wish it would have been Nigel Franch. In fact, I begged him on July 27th to stop lying about us, yeah? Be the party, there's a momentum coming. We're going to build a cultural movement. I want my job to be waking people up.

They need to be directed politically and reform have just portrayed them at every level. And things are really changing. So there's a couple of things I wanted to show you. Firstly, this new poll just released, Scarlett Maguire posted it on X. And she said it shows seven and ten are worried about political violence. Here's the most shocking line. One in five say thou'd participate if things get worse. David Shipley commented on that saying 20% of the population saying they'd be prepared to participate in political violence as

not a statistic generally associated with healthy, thriving democracies. At the same time, what you have is because of the threat of Jeremy Corbyn and Zaratholana's new Islamist party, Labour, and I want to show you this new video, Tommy, are constantly appeasing the Muslim vote. So this is our Chancellor, right? This is our Chancellor. It's humiliating, man. What did you think? Well, I think if she was meeting members of the Muslim vote.

the Spanish community in the UK would she walk in with Maracas? Go stop. Do I mean? It's like, what are you doing? It's humiliating, it's embarrassing. And do you know what? I've seen this the whole time in my life. Islam doesn't budge, right? At all.

I'll give you an example. I had a meeting when we were leading the English Defence League. Tom, his name was Tom Robinson. The Bishop of Pontifract set up a meeting with us as leaders as Ediel and leaders of the Diabandi sect of Islam. And they had, the Muthi that come to the meeting was preaching at the Golden Dome Mosque the day before

when we looked him up, yeah? So we went into this meeting with the church leaders. It's in a church in Oxfordshire. It was a secret meeting. And it was to thrash things out of why we're angry. And before the meeting, the bishop briefed us that MI5 and MI5 and MI6

see the future of this country as Diabandi, which is the very conservative Islamic sect, this group were from Jewsbury, very conservative. Yeah, that's a bleaky Jemat mosque. It's problematic for. us, yeah? So we went into the meeting and then the church leader said, well, see, we've been having, we've been bringing the communities together. We had a Christmas lunch together, yeah, for diversity. I said, you lot had a Christmas lunch. He said, yeah, I said, as in how many

Muslims come to the Christmas lunch? How many Christians? He said, well, there's like 20 of us and 20 of them. I said, did you have wine at the Christmas lunch? And he just looked. I said, you had a Sharia compliant Christmas lunch. You mug. Like basically, you bent for every, you bent for everything. Have your wine. It's our celebration. It's our culture. It's our way of life. If they don't like it, they can go. It's their problem. You're bending and changing your way of life for them. It's muggy. That's what that looks like. That's embarrassing. It's humiliating. Do you know what? When Marie Le Pen, Merri Le Pen went to meet Saudi leaders. Did you see it? And they went to give her a headscarf and she walked out of the meeting. She threw it on the floor

and said, I'm not putting that. I'm not oppressing myself for you. Muslim women, you want to cover your hair cover your hair what is this clown it's embarrassing it's total appeasement it's cowardice it's zero leadership and it's zero do you know what with her covering her hair like that women are dying right now in iran in order to take their hijab off and she as a traitor to real feminism real women's rights and it's so humiliating to watch that's meant to be our bloody one of our i know i know but it is exciting in a way what's happening with the corbin so i agree because you know what we actually need to happen, and again, a lot of people disagree with me on this, but trust me, what we actually need to happen is a true smashing of the Uniparty. Now, that does

mean proportional representation. I want proportional representation. Me too, me too. And a lot of people have spread a lot of lies about this for a long time and said that proportional representation automatically means left wing and power. It absolutely does not. It doesn't. What it means is that true political powers can be ideologically pure. Now, I think it's good. in a way, that we have this hard left Islamist party showing who they really are, right? Because this is a party, by the way, that does want first cousin marriages.

This is a party that absolutely recognizes Hamas. I mean, this is an extremist party. But what's ironic at the moment, is Labor actually believes a lot of what these guys are saying. But pretend they don't. Exactly, but pretends they don't. Unless they're in a meeting like that. Do you see what I mean?

And now they don't know what I do. Jess Phillips is not going to know what I do. None of them are going to know what I do. No, because Jeremy Corbyn's going to take the Muslim vote. 100%. Because Jeremy Corbyn's going to tell the truth on what he thinks. Because Labour have always masqueraded it and hid it and aligned with it secretly, but then put the smiling face on.

But yeah, I want to see Labour. I think, as you said, if Corbyn splits the Labour vote, if you have reform, you have Conservatives, hopefully you have advance. And hopefully, Advance UK, push them, push, push. I just think, I've seen how many Muslim... It's like Zia Yousiff's just picking all Muslims for the new candidates. Yes.

There's one in Wales. it was another Muslim lad? Yes. Well, it's complete appeasement. That's what it is. It is an appeasement strategy and it's the opposite strategy of Donald Trump.

What they are saying and this is what's so depressing is basically, oh look, the country's fucked anyway. So we've sort of just got to accept that there's a cultural takeover. Did you see what he said?

By 2050, the Islamic demographic is that strong in the UK that we cannot alienate them. Yes. It's like, which part of Islam and its ideology

do you want us to coordinate with and accept. Well, in the same interview, though, he also said that mass deportations were impossible. Tell that to Donald Trump. They are not impossible. Zero people crossed the border last week. Zero. We could stop with the right people in power. You'd stop the, you'd stop immigration tomorrow. You'd stop the boats tomorrow. There's no will or no courage to do it. We're in Ireland. I mean, Australia. They stopped the invasion overnight. No, absolutely. Look, Tommy, over the past six months, for a lot of that period, you have been. unable to respond to your critics.

You were locked up. And so what I wanted to do today is give you the opportunity to see what some of your most strident critics, both on the right and the left, said about you during that time when you were in HMP Woodhill, when you could not hit back, so that you were able to respond specifically to some of these claims that were made over that period. And so I first want you to look at what Pearce Morgan said about you. It's not a nice guy. This is a pretty repellent human being.

People in America do look at Tommy Robinson in a very different way to how we do here. The reason Nigel Farage has disowned him and was nothing to do with him is we see through him. Tommy Robinson is a convicted football hooligan. He's monetized his hatred of Islam. It has warped, in my view, all his so-called journalism, activism, whatever he wants to call it, because it's always skewed against Muslims. It's never fair and balanced in any way. Free Tommy Robinson, who is, to most people in my country, an extremely insidious individual

who should absolutely not be free right now. There's a completely weird misunderstanding of who Tommy Robinson is and what he represents in America. Because he's managed to position himself very quickly. cleverly as this kind of freedom fighter who's only in prison because he blew the whistle and all with stuff so they've silenced him by putting him in prison none of that is true i don't know if you were aware of all of that no i wasn't what do you say i've monetized my opposition to islam you can buy my koran at trbooks.co dot co dot youk so you're not denying that one to me

oh mate no i'm watching that it's like when he says I'm a hated, come for a walk down the street with me, Piers. See who's hated. In fact, in fact, if I ever go on his show, I'm going to challenge him to that. I'll tell you what, Piers, me and you go for a walk. We'll go for a walk through a few major cities. We'll see what reception you get, what reception I get. We see who's hated and who's loved.

So it's like, to the establishment, to the people within the M25 in the champagne bars that Piers Morgan goes to, maybe that is the mood and feeling. But to the betrayed, forgotten, neglected British population, I'm one of them. when they see the attack on me they know it's an attack on them when they see the censorship of me they know it's to censor them when they put me in prison they know it's to send a message to them so unfortunately yeah do you know what because Tim Paul really put him in his place after that

and all didn't he but it was interesting though I don't know if you were aware that it was actually a real campaign and it was a campaign designed to change American opinion well no that's what Nigel was doing no no so I was worried So first of January comes, ring home, and this was the moment that prison was worth it. I remember sat my kids down beforehand, so I'm going to release this film. I have to. And if it can get seen by 10 million people, kids, yeah, it A changes Bailey's life because everyone's going to watch it in that.

And my kids love Bailey. Bailey live with us for four years, three, four years, yeah. He was with us for Christmas dinner. The kids like, he become like a brother to my kids. So I said, it's going to change Bailey's life. him a fresh start in his life. Not just that. It's going to be an opportunity

for so many people to understand the corruption and the weaponisation and they're being lied to. And I had this goal of 10 million views. And then it was the first week in January and I've run home my son

and he's like, Dad! I'm like, what? He said Elon Musk shared the film, man. I'm like, I swear to God, I'm like, yes. I'm in the cell and I'm jumping around the cell. I'm like, fucking yes. And I'm jumping up

because I knew at that moment and then he said, he shared the rape Britain Nicole's story. I still speak to Nicole. Nicole was one of the bravest young girls I've ever met, yeah? She was the first person to put her face on those documentaries to challenge those gangs in Telford, yeah, against everything. She had a real backlash from it. She suffered a lot from it. So when I knew that her story had now reached the world on 45 million views or sank, I was like, yes! And I'm going through all this from my son. And I swear, in that seven days,

I bet I felt freer. I was on solitary confinement. I bet I felt freer than Kiyosama. Yes. And it was a game-changing week. Because I was in New Zealand, right? So I'd just gone back to New Zealand to be with my family for Christmas and New Year. So just after I'd seen you actually. And it was amazing. Even seen in New Zealand.

It was a true international story and that's what was so exciting about it. And do you know who shifted this a lot? Which was, and I understand this from the emails and letters I received in jail. It was Jordan Peterson sitting down. Yes. Jordan Peter sitting down and having discussion.

She's so respected internationally. And Gad's had, and many of these people, Give me the time. Jordan, gave me the time. Jordan interview was massive. Yeah, it had four million views. It was a massive shifting moment from understanding, and I understand this. I'm very grateful to Jordan.

I'm very grateful to his wife, Tammy. I'm very grateful for the opportunity to tell my story without the distorted image that's given by the British media. And that doesn't mean, of course, Jordan's going to agree with every single thing or not think I've done things in the past that are wrong. But at that moment, in our country, in our time, it was needed. And that issue, and the platform they gave to discuss the rape of Britain, And when I saw Piersmore, when my son said,

Dad, Elon Musk has just tweeted and he's used the phrase rape of Britain. So I'm just thinking, mate, you have to understand you've been there. You know when you're censored? So the best, most important work I've ever done in my life, the sitting down with the survivors and understanding them and getting to know them for 18 months and seeing the pain in their life and seeing them driven to attempts on suicide,

even during the documentary, one of them tries to kill herself, seeing all of this and then releasing these films on Rumble that aren't getting the tractional scene it's painful it's painful

and it's disheartening and it's not right so then that week it's like yes and all that's blowing up and then to see Pierce Morgan

getting schooled like Tim Paul when he's hammering me and said okay okay he's not perfect he's wrong but he's the only one

I remember talking about he's the only one I saw that brought it to the world's attention he's the only war and I listen to Pierce then trying to do well no it wasn't it was Anne Crier.

Okay, you go ask the British public, how many have you heard about Islamic rape gangs from Anne Croyer? Yes, 100%. Who's Anne Croyer? The other big one, of course, was Nigel Farage. Watch this. No, Nigel said, yeah. Tommy Robinson character, who some see as a hero.

And all right, you know, he's talked about grooming gangs and other things, although it's hardly been on his own on that, as he? I mean, I was first being condemned in 2012 for daring to talk about him. Anne Crier was talking in 2002. Yeah, no, she was, I mean, she is the her. she's the heroine of all of this as indeed to be fair Andrew Norfolk who was writing for the times

you know and Sue Reid on the mail there were some very brave figures early on but when figures like myself as party leaders dared pop the head over the parapet we were smashed back down very very quickly so you know Robinson's talked about this but he has a criminal record

a list as long as your arm violence violence against women I mean I could go on neck and all I'm saying is look Mr Robinson and do what the hell you like. We are totally separate from that. And I never wanted, and you know this,

you've known me long enough to know. I've never wanted my parties to have anything to do with the BMP or extremism. And I never will. Why have they attracted people then, Mr Farage? Again, I've never had a conviction or any arrest or any questioning for violence against women.

So Nigel Farage is sat there lying and not just lying, but telling the most ultimate lie. It's like there's a paedophile and then there's woman be here. And he's telling the whole platform there that I am a woman beater, which I'm not, and never have been. So he's a liar, first off.

Then he goes on and lists about, well, I talked about in 2012, and I was beating back down. Well, did you get back up, Nigel? Because we've got back up every time, yeah? We haven't allowed them to beat us down or silence us. We've continued against all the threats, okay? Without your security that you have, we walked the streets. I had to live in Luton for the first, at the start of the whole English defense league,

walking the streets of Luton with every Islamic ghetto gang, blowing my house up, setting fire to my cars, battering me in the streets, hospitalising me. So, mate, unfortunately, Anne Cryer, I was in a debate show of Ancriar in 2013 on a documentary

where she had no idea of the reasons. Do you know what Ancriah done? She went to the imams and begged them, please, can you do something about this? And they said no, yeah? And then what did she do? So I great that Ancrius tried to talk about it, but in reality, then what did she do?

Well, she shut up about it like everyone else, yeah? Andrew Norfolk, I know he's dead. He died recently. In his words, he knew it was happening for years, along come the English Defence League. He wanted to then take it back, like he's got some moral high ground as well. He wanted to take it back from the far right, concerned English men and fathers. He wanted to take it back. So then he reported on it.

So without the English Defence League, Andrew Norfolk wouldn't have touched it. Without the English Defence League, no one would have touched it. None of the people. And as again, Nigel Frage, who now likes to get angry about it, he didn't talk about it. It's like, mate, you knew about it. You didn't talk about it. Do you know when he talks there about far right? So when you Kip had their MEP group,

this is why I know Nigels of Wankar, yeah. When they had their MEP group, if you look at the populist parties in Europe, who are now gaining power, who are the future of Europe, alternate for Deutschland, Swedish Democrats, Flams Belang in Belgium,

Freedom Party, Gert Wilders, all of those groups aligned together in a group of unity in the European Union. UKIP refused to ever meet me. Now, and what, UKIP, Nigel looked down his nose upon them as far right. Because they were telling the truth for the last 20 years about Islamic immigration and invasion. They were telling it when you couldn't tell it.

Well, I mean, try saying that to Ayan Hursi Ali, who very, very nearly was killed for blowing the whistle. That's it. I mean, she was one of them. She was one of them. But Nigel refused to align with them because he always saw himself as better. like now he and he sat there and he said Tommy you go do your thing well I've been trying to do my thing

but you keep attacking me and lying about me you keep and maybe I is do you know personally so some people think we'll stop attacking Nigel Fragge because it doesn't do us any benefit it's pretty hard even sat here now when I was sat in solitary confinement imagine my kids watching that prick

imagine my children watching that lying scoundrel sit on national TV to a daytime audience a massive massive audience on Nick Ferrari show and say that I've got a conviction for violence against women at the same time as this Nigel was crying on TV

about Kemi Badenock making a comment about his membership and he was demanding she apologised it's like you've just gone and told everyone I've got violence against women Nigel

if you want night again I don't even want to get into I was going to say if you want all the things I found out about you which is a hell of a lot I know about every sordid affair I know about every person

I know about everything and I'm not just know about it I've got evidence and recordings of it your mug but it's just like again, I think, I don't want to even want to go there. I just think Nigel, apologise, not to me,

apologise to my family and my ex-wife because she had to make some grovelling statement because I've read it when I got out of jail. She had to put some big statement out about how I've never laid a finger on her because that's what he's told people. So yeah, it's frustrating and I'm probably getting frustrated now

because I, don't really sit here. You have to put yourself in my shoes. That's why I wanted you to see it because I think it's important that you see what other people saw at the time. And it's very unfair to do that when someone's in prison, by the way, and can't respond. Not just in prison, but when I look here, and this way I'm maybe I'll get in a bit of a bit of here, or feeling sorry for myself, I think you have no idea what I've gone through. You have no idea what my wife's gone through. You've broke my family, yeah? I've been in prison. I've been in ten different prisons. I've been beaten and had my teeth smashed in those jails. Nigel would last ten minutes in my shoes when he walks outside this gate. He'd run away. Without his half a million pound security, you think he'd be doing what he's doing. You think he'd mention one word without the backed paid-for security that he had. So I think you wouldn't last a second in my shoes.

You're a coward. You've never shifted the over window. You jump in after it's moved. And then you start talking about the issue once it's acceptable to talk about. And the only reason it's acceptable to talk about, and this isn't just about me, right? It's because of Sammy Woodhouse. It's because of the whistleblowers. Germany whistleblowers, we don't even know their names off, who were gagged and lost their jobs.

Jeremy people lost their careers and were cancelled for trying to talk about this. Germany school teachers lost their jobs for joining the English Defence League. That was the breaking point of a lot of this. And you still sit there and slam those people. So I get frustrated because I know so many people who have lost so much. And then I sit and think about what I've gone through and my family have gone through. All Nigels do it done is make millions and millions and millions of pounds. And he sits there and say, I've monetised it.

I was bankrupt just for the record in 2022. I was bankrupt. Which means every single financial payment I've ever had or done was investigated. Every bank account, I would put on oath in court where they investigate every penny and every finance. There was no big money from Israel anyway, yeah? No big money from Israel, but there was no money. So there was no money. So I was bankrupt in 2022.

I currently, whilst Nigel's sitting making millions, I have 300,000 pounds worth of debts given to me when I walked out of jail by the state. So he wouldn't last a second in the persecution that I've failed. And let me tell you, if I was sat down and given a deal, like they tried to give me many times, plead guilty, go home, say sorry, go home. I wouldn't take the deal, Nigel, yeah? So you wouldn't last a second in my shoes to sit there and spout about me. and if you wanted to take a chance to spell it, but to spout about me

when I'm sat on solitary confinement after playing a documentary. And you know what? It weren't the first time. If you go back, you know when I was in prison in 2018 outside Leeds Crown Court? I was put in jail. And when I come out of jail, I watched a video on Nigel Frudge doing an interview, saying I should have been in jail. Well, he's a criminal and he's committed contempt of court.

Now, it took 11 weeks for that court case to realize, and this is the judge's findings, that the entire process was flawed and unlawful. So Nigel was wrong But he jumped on the establishment line then It's like each time When Elon Musk shared free Tommy Robinson And there was a mass momentum To free Tommy Robinson

Outrolled Nigel Fragge Yes Basically out rolled Nigel Fragge Not outrolled Hope not hate Not out rolled Keir Stama Outrolled Nigel Fragge Nigel Fragge then sits there

Across every TV show Like that Trying to change the public Because they think the public are listening to him Or the patriotic public are listening to him So he then comes out to condemn me and attack me

he then comes out and say well like Elon Musk some thick idiot I'll explain to Elon Musk me Nigel when I get to America I'll basically explain to him the richest man in the world

the best entrepreneur the biggest brain in the planet during our time alive and Nigel is going to explain to him when he gets it Musk wouldn't take it I shit myself thinking he would

I thought I know I know Nigel's going to go to America now he's going to slag me off demonize me which he did which he did yeah but it didn't wash but Musk didn't take it

Mustn't take it. From what I understand, he pretty much got run out of all the meetings. Everyone just said, see you later, a shit suit. Well, Katie Hopkins, who was over there, told me that a lot of people judged Farage for his position. Americans have much, much more await to this, especially within the Republicans. They care about freedom. Yeah. Nigel don't. That's what come from that is.

It's a bottom line issue for them. Nigel don't give a shit about free speech. It's very apparent. J.D. Vance, the Republican Party and Donald Trump, it's their first thing they're going to fall on. They're going to die for it. They're not budging it. Totally. The next clip is...

So one of these was when you were in jail, Camilla Tom and A, presenter on Ghibi News. The other is Patrick Christus from a while ago, but this went viral when you were in jail. And he did apologise for it. Watch this. Tommy Robinson in this loose role as advisor on grooming gangs. A, what advice do you need on grooming gangs?

B, do you want that advice coming from a man like Tommy Robinson? It's not a good look for the party whatsoever. Frankly, it's not a good look for society, and I do really think this just demonstrate actually that there is an undercurrent, not this subtle level of racism that's been leveled at UK in the past. I think you could argue that this is now much more overt.

Elon Musk doesn't quite seem to understand who Tommy Robinson is and what he represents, which is a misunderstanding that is sometimes seen across the pond, you know, Americans and Canadians, thinking that Tommy Robinson is some kind of, you know, misunderstood folklore figure, when in fact he's a convicted criminal. criminal and white supremacist who hasn't really done much in fact he's currently serving a

sentence for contempt of court white supremacist Tommy that is the she is the number one the flagship presenter now for gb news that's why she said white supremacist again the public no I'm not a white supremacist the public thank you didn't know she's done that no the public followed my story so the public no I'm not a white supremacist so again she She's rolled out as establishment to lie, slander, defame me, lie about me. And she goes on about how the public view me. Again, no, they don't.

Not anymore, they don't. They don't listen to you, Camilla. Like, what's her name, Camilla Tomlinley? Where's she from? She's on G.B. News. Where is she? Daily telegraph. Okay, I didn't know.

Another mainstream bullshit. But she made a documentary for the Daily Telegraph on you when you were in prison. Did she? Trying to back that up. So trying to prove. Did she prove it? Well, she spoke to that horrible woman. I don't even know her name who used to work for you, blonde, blonde woman who's a turncoat. Oh, but I'm not just a cairn coat. So she fell in love. I never touched her.

When I got, when she got my prison number, because she lost her job. It's really pretty, it's pretty mad. It's like she's not got a new boyfriend. Go and have some kids, darling. Total weirdo. Stop being a weirdo. Total weirdo. And that's, and that's who she managed to speak to. What about, what about Patrick Christy's having described you as racist? Were you surprised by that? Surprised by watching it. At the same time... At the same time,

I don't blame a lot of people for their negative opinion they've had on me because they were spoon-fed it. And he was working for Farage at the time, remember too. Okay, so I like Patrick Christie. I watch him... Is it his missus? Is that his missus?

Yes. I like them both. I think they're both great. So, I don't know. Has he said anything since that? Yes, yes. He said he's learned since then. Okay, so, you know what? But that went viral when you...

When I was in jail, okay. So, yeah, he looks young there, don't he? Yes. Yeah, he looks young. But I don't, yeah, I don't blame. You don't judge that. No, I don't judge that. And he's young, and most people can grow up and learn a lot.

And if you, I might not like me if I wasn't me, yeah, if I only took what the media have said about me. So I don't bear a grudge on it. Well, you even said that about the dude who you defended yourself against at Stanckept station. You actually have said, you don't blame him. You blame the mainstream media.

I blame Camilla Tomlinly. I blame these monks. I blame Nigel Farage. Because at the minute, say that gentleman at the train station has watched the TV, he thinks I beat up women and he think, and you're a white supremacist. So maybe Patrick Christie used to buy this shit.

So they're building an opinion base for me, which is what the media do and the establishment do. They create this bogey man. And then I walk down the street, they don't have to end me because someone else is going to end me. It happened with the Dutch politician when he was stabbed up. and that person who stabbed him up

literally thought he was stabbing up Satan just because the bloke spoke about Islam can't go final one I want to show you see she should be sued for that so should Nigel Farage to be honest though you could sue so should Nigel Farage

would you consider it or do you feel that's a waste of energy it's a waste of my energy in my time like what see what I started to do but she could be because you can categorically prove you're not a white supremacist and you can categorically prove I've never got a conviction of violence against women

so I could categorically prove it I'd probably rather stick a camera camera in their face. It's more fun. Well, it's more fun seeing that they ain't got an answer to it. Yeah, because you're lying. Camilla, you're lying. Probably the one that you will be the least

surprised by, though, is this one I'm about to show you Jess Phillips while you were in jail. People like Tommy Robinson go out and talk about these cases. They make it less likely people will be convicted. Yeah. Justice is complicated. Keeping people safe

isn't just saying the hardest thing it is a complex fabric and when you're not hearing things you think are happening A, half of them won't be happening and believe you may, I've seen beyond the curtains cock up is much more likely than conspiracy the idea that we could fake the moon landing

we can't get a drop card pudding Honestly, I absolutely love any conspiracy theory I'm like that really these guys, have you met them? And you believe they'd be able to lie about it I am just like, this is, this is, you have wildly overestimated the ability of these people. No, you are wildly underestimating the intelligence of the public you've done bitch. So what she's saying there, sorry, excuse me again, she's saying that there's no conspiracy and it's probably more likely. But also that what you're doing makes it harder to convict.

No, again, this was what they spoon fed after the first court case when I was in 2018, that I. risks jeopardising the trial. Either I did jeopardise the trial or I didn't. Even my report in influenced the trial or I didn't. And the judges all found it didn't. So that means my reporting was 100% legitimate and didn't bring about any problem to the trial. So it didn't risk the trial. And they went with that and they tried to attack me with that. Again, roll out Nigel Frage trying to say I risk the court case when I didn't. The judges said after my full video, we watched the entirety of his video and nothing he said in that video could have prejudiced this trial. So I done nothing wrong. So I haven't missed it. But what she says there, which has just angered

me and infuriated me, is she's trying to act like, it's probably more a cock-up, like these people can do some big conspiracy. There was a massive conspiracy from one end of this country to the other, and in one council, it might have been a mistake, and it might have been isolated, but Roverham, Telford, Oldham, Bradford, Newcastle, Oxford, 55 cities. And in these 55 cities, what we're found from each investigation, the police knew, the council knew, religious leaders knew, the Muslim community knew, everyone knew. And Jess, you're lying little fraud, you knew. We've seen you begging.

The reason why she is shitting herself, because she is a rape apologist and she's an Islam apologist. The reason why is because she only won her seat by, what, 600 votes? Now, if you look at Jess Phillips, look at our investigation in Telford. Our investigation in Telford showed in the grooming gang scandal there, we've done it 18 months we spent in that city. We've done a five-part series.

It was a 1.7% Muslim population of Telford. That's it. That means there's three and a half thousand Muslims say, yeah? Get rid of the women, get rid of the under 16, under 17s, the police investigation identified a thousand rapists. A fact, no, I identified a thousand victims. The investigation identified 200 rapists. 200 Muslim men were identified by the police in Telford as rapists.

There's only a thousand Muslim men in Telford. So that's 20% of the Muslim men in Telford are raping. So if you take the 20% of the Muslim men and then you take their wives, that's like 20% of the Islamic community, who have directly been involved in raping, yeah? Jess Phillips only gained her seat by 600 Muslim votes. If she lost 0.5% of the Muslim vote in that area, she's gone.

So if she stood for an inquiry, bearing in mind we know 20% of the Muslims are raping, they're not voting for her. But do you want to know the most hilarious thing, Tommy? What she doesn't realize is she's done anyway. Yeah, she's gone. She's finished. They're all finished.

Have you ever seen someone? We're streets. They are all finished. Islamists are going to finish them, not reform. Have you ever seen anyone so sick in Parliament? But I watch him and just think you actually don't have any intelligence but you're not actually got any intelligence.

How have you even got here? How have you even got here? I think that though when I look at virtually every senior Labour politician because the whole backbench. None of them have ever worked. Business owners, success. No, no, they are political animals

and it's really, really horrible. Tommy, final thing we do. So I don't know if you know, on my GVNU show, I had Greatest Britain Union Jackass where every day, we would crown the best and the worst of Britain. And when I went independent, one of my sort of guarantees with GB News to free me from my status, I said, I'm taking my favourite features with me.

So we do it on the show now, but the viewers choose each day. So they nominate three people to be the worst Britain in the world today, Union Jackass. And then on a Friday, we put the winners from Monday to Thursday head to head, and we crown the worst Britain in the world this week. So what I'm going to do is run you through our winners from Monday to Thursday and get you to choose your winner. I'll tell you the reasons why as well. And then I'll reveal who our viewers have chosen. So on Monday, it was Narenda Kaur.

And I wanted to read out her response to you actually on this because you posted a message we respect and love the Sikhs with a Sikh woman who had sent you a direct message. Now, Norenda, I don't know if you saw this. But she reposted this and said, I may seek woman, we do not stand by you or the hate you throw at our Muslim brothers and sisters. Your racist followers wouldn't know the difference if I drew a picture and would happily attack my son or husband in a second. Your response to Narinda.

She doesn't believe a word she's saying. So it's a grip. It's a financial grift. It's a financial grift which has worked for her very well. But then I feel a bit sorry for her because she's put herself in that corner that she has to stick by it. She has to stick by it and keep digging it.

And it's very sad to see, actually. It's sad to see, but it's also made her quite hated. And she doesn't believe it. She doesn't believe it. She's a mother. So I don't hold. No, no, no. She's trying to provoke a reaction.

I'm not going to get rid of it. She was the Monday nominee. Find peace, darling. Tuesday nominee was a woman called Bush Roshake, who absolutely does believe what she says. Now, this is a Muslim woman who, after the death of James Well. Now, James Well was a close colleague and mentor to me. Talk TV, lad.

It's quite funny. of cancer. Yeah, yeah. And look, I didn't agree with James on everything, but my God, he was an amazing man. He mentored me. Within minutes, Tommy, minutes of him dying. She went on the biggest tirade because of his support for Israel. And it was revolting what she said about him. So she was the Tuesday nominee. Wednesday nominee, the Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper, for this ludicrous. Have you seen at 17 in, one out deal with France? And, you know, that's meant to... And we're meant to be happy. Yeah. It's like, solved it. Yeah. Solved it.

Cheers of it. You know, so she's another one. And then Thursday was actually, because of you, Piers Morgan, was nominated. And we've got some comments on this from our brilliant viewers. Tristan, EL6HS, said Piers's attitude to Tommy and total disregard to the real threat the UK faces. Islamists really makes my blood boil. You can have the crown this week, Pears. Maggie Lucas 8685 said pears chasing headlines instead of seeking the truth. Gary 31310 says definitely Megaphone Morgan, unless he is self-identifying as Irish this week. It's hard to keep up as he

changes his nationality more than he changes his underwear. The same goes for his views on global politics. With him, everything is a movable feast. Thus he has zero credibility as a journalist. But Nicola Allen said the other three have no influence, but Cooper is an MP and unfortunately has influence. So, Tommy, out of those four nominees, who would be your worst Britain in the world this week? So you've got Narenda Kor, Bush Reshake, Yvette Cooper or Pearz Morgan. I'll have to agree on that. I'll say Yvette Cooper. Because, look, I think peers, I don't even know what he believes. I don't think he does.

I think Pearz believes whatever he thinks will ride the wave and get in popularity and cause a stir and getting views. So pro-Israel, then he's against Israel, pro-Black Lives Matter against Black Lives Matter, pro-vaccine against Vaxon. What the fuck does he even think? Exactly. Whereas Yvette Cooper is a true enemy of the state. Well, it's interesting, actually.

And she sat YouTube down, didn't she, and grilled them? Yes. And forced a private business to remove my channel. Yes, and said in the Select Committee, look, here's Tommy Robinson. He's showing up in the recommendations. I mean, it's not. well look well I bet

I'm back he's back but you'll be seeing my video pretty soon the fact you'll be seeing about a million of us in London 13 September

I'm sure she will be as far away but they'll all be watching you'll be watching her country house you can bet Kea Stama has a live want of what's going on

that day the results are in and they do actually agree with you Tommy the outspoken audience we had tens of thousands of votes this week thank you so much

in fourth position Pierce Morgan with 14 percent of the vote. In third position, Bushra Shake with 16% of the vote. The runner up with 24% of the vote Narenda Corp. But the worst Britain in the world this week, Tommy agrees the home secretary, Yvette Cooper, with 46% of the vote. Tommy, just remind everyone where they can get the books and the merch. Get the books at TRBooks.com. UK. You can watch any of my documentaries, my Viscive journalism at TRfilms.com.com. UK. And you can get

the UTK March for September 13th, which we've got hats, we've got loads of stuff. And I think UTK's going to become the British Maga. It's going to become the British, 100%. It's going to spread. It's not stopping. It's going to get bigger. So you're going to do a lot of merch for this? Yeah, well, with merch, I'll just start getting these done, but we will do merch, but I just think the name, the branding,

and the movement is going to become a cultural movement. Make America great again, uniting the kingdom. It's powerful. And you get this at nationware.com.com. Okay. But yeah. Amazing. Thanks, Dan. Thank you so much.

for being here today. Enjoyed it. So, so good that we finally got to sit down. Do come back soon. We'll do. And thank you so much for your company today. Don't go anywhere though, because we're moving over to Substack now for another fascinating conversation actually.

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