Dan Wootton Outspoken - TRAIN TERROR COVER UP AS MSM LIE & 32-YEAR-OLD CHARGED HAD ALREADY BEEN ON KNIFE RAMPAGE
Episode Date: November 3, 2025A weekend of gaslighting, cover up and lies from our corrupted politicians, authorities and MSM after a mass stabbing on a train to London leaves ten with horror injuries and one brave staff member in... hospital fighting for their life in scenes out of a horror movie that are now commonplace in Slippery Starmer’s Disunited Kingdom. We have finally learned that 32-year-old Anthony Williams has been charged with the attempted murders, but what’s more is that he was already wanted by police after another stabbing the night before, not to mention this horrific scene at a barbers – yet our hapless authorities let this demon out to allegedly try and kill innocents. Wanting the truth will see you branded racist and only our political leaders outside of parliament dare to question what’s really going on. Dan will slam the elite class for accepting that mass stabbing events are now part of life in Britain in his Digest. Then the Superstar Panel are here: Head of Fair Fuel UK and Advance UK College Member Howard Cox, and unspun political commentator Peter Barnes, host of the Barnes Network on Substack. PLUS: Calls to bring back the death penalty and legalise pepper spray as the fallout from this weekend’s horror unfolds. AND: A Loose Women star is lined up to replace axed Mike Graham on Talk TV. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle exposed for a fake Instagram publicity stunt involving her miserable husband Prince Harry. We’ll reveal all as we team up with the Royal News Network. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 351. A weekend of gaslighting cover-ups and lies from our corrupted politicians, authorities and MSM. After a mass stabbing on a train to London leaves 10 with horror injuries, one brave staff member still fighting for their life in hospital after scenes out of a horror movie that are now commonplace in Slippery Starmers Disjure.
United Kingdom.
And this is just all from a lad's life that I tried to save soccer bleeding.
And I had a guy suddenly run past going, run, run, there's a guy stabbing, literally
everyone at everything, there was a few of us kind of looking at each other, like thinking
it was it a joke, like it's Halloween, I'd be pranking, but then you can kind of see in their faces
they'll be in serious.
So after trying to shut us up all weekend, we finally learned that 32-year-old Anthony Williams
has been charged with the attempted murders.
But listen to this.
He was already wanted by police after multiple stabbings the night before.
Not to mention that horrific scene at a barbers.
Yet our hapless authorities let this demon out to allegedly try and kill innocent.
on that train.
Tweeted last night,
quote, if Britain's drift towards civil conflict continues,
the next phase will be physical
when politics ceases to settle grievances,
they're settled by other means.
Is that the sort of thing that a Tory peer
ought to be posting online?
Why do we need to know that particular detail?
I think the fact that a British citizen is relevant,
it kind of puts to bed the idea
which could have perhaps led to the most pronounced surprise
and anger on the streets if the person was here illegally.
Oh, yes, wanting the truth, we'll see you branded racist.
And only our political leaders outside of Parliament
dare to question what's really going on.
I think the impression he was trying to give in that description
was that those of us who were concerned about the assault on our country
by illegal migrants and other criminals who shouldn't be here
needn't be concerned that this is an entirely domestic British issue.
But remember,
that after the killings in Southport, the brutal killings of those three young girls,
Stama described the perpetrator as a Welshman.
Stama indulged, in my view, undoubtedly indulged, in deflection.
As soon as you remove the terrorism label, it can't be to do with ideology.
That means you can't point it at any one direction, be that demographic, religion, causality goes out the window.
And we're there losing our minds, thinking, well, we're just surrounded by knife-wielding,
psychopaths and maniacs. Totally, and I refuse to accept that. I refuse to accept that.
Mass-stabbing events cannot just become part of life in Britain. So I'll get into that in my
digest next. Then my superstar panel here, head of Fairfuel UK and Advanced UK College member
Howard Cox and the unspun political commentator Peter Barnes, host of the Barnes Network on
Substack. Also coming up on the show today, calls to bring back the death penalty and legal
legalise pepper spray as the fallout from this weekend's horror unfolds.
A loose women star is lined up to replace Ax Mike Graham on Talk TV.
I'll bring you the latest on that.
And Prince Harry and Fergie turn on Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor as Donald Trump weighs in on the Royal Drama.
So we'll have all of the latest too.
Then in the uncanceled after show on Substack, I'm teaming up with the Royal News Network
as Megan Markler is exposed for a fake Instagram publicity stunt.
You can sign up to watch at www.outspoken.
Live.
A programming note, too, we will also be live with you tomorrow at 9.30 a.m.
As the British state puts Tommy Robinson on trial for terrorism, that verdict will be announced.
Tommy will be in court.
Of course, you cannot trust the mainstream media reporting on this case, because you know how they feel about
Tommy Robinson. So tomorrow we will bring you a special show. Lauren, the insider, is live at
Westminster's Magistrate's Court. I will also be joined by Don Keith of the Real Beef and a special
show. You can schedule it right now and just click watch later in our live tab in order to be
alerted to that show. But we will be live with you at 9.30 a.m. tomorrow morning, then have all of the
fallout as usual in our live show at 5 o'clock. We'll also reveal a brand new Greatest Britain
and Union Jackass before the end of the show. Here are your nominees. Ed Miliband, nominated by
It's Only Me 44, who says 100 pound boiler tax, and for every 92 boilers sold,
manufacturers must sell at least six heat pumps or will be fined £500 per heat pump. They fail
to sell. Lisa Nandy, nominated by Karen Quinn, for panicking and trying to get Fiona to shut
Matt Goodwin down. She was that telltale kid at school who would be kept in at playtime to help
the teacher because nobody wanted to play with her because she would grasp them up. That's
in reference to last Thursday's question time. And John Healy, nominated by Thanks a lot 412.
The Defence Secretary has told us we should be more vigilant. Is he expecting an apology from the
victims for not being more vigilant? So there are your choices. Keep your comments coming and I'll read
them at the end of the show. But now let's go.
So it's another complete shit show in Lawless Britain, with 10 innocents slaughtered on a train by a black man who we are told nothing about, other than that he was born in Britain, as were, by the way, the 7-7 terrorists, Lee Rigby's killer, and Axel Ruda-Cabana.
But if we dare raise questions about the very obvious cover-up going on by the elite class, including the,
our hapless leaders and toothless MSM, then we are somehow racist.
Every time, after one of these attacks, we ask for transparency.
Every time we never get it until someone is charged, as happened with 32-year-old Anthony Williams
this morning.
Then, we're all just meant to shut up.
Well, no, no.
Because the Cambridgeshire police have had to refer them.
to the police watchdog, because this was said Anthony Williams, just hours before his knife
rampage on the train to Huntingdon, terrifying even more innocence at a barber's watch.
So that's what we're going to be
So that was ours before hand
So that was hours beforehand
It has also been revealed
That he allegedly stabbed a 14-year-old boy in Peterborough
the day before the train attack.
But in the past few minutes,
our corrupted and our complicit Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood
has told us yet again we all just have to shut up and be patient.
I know this house and the public will have many unanswered questions today
about who this attacker was and about the events that led up to the attack.
Those questions will be answered, but it will take time.
the police and prosecutors must be allowed to do their work.
That's not good enough. We need answers. We are sick of waiting. And we don't trust you.
Because even now the MSM and the elite class see more concerned about community cohesion,
focusing on the fact that this man was born in Britain, which means, you know, there's nothing to even talk about.
As Paul Watson, Paul Joseph Watson pointed out facetiously, however, as British as afternoon tea,
a red phone box, fish and ships, and Axel Ruda-Kabana.
And pointing out the complicity of the MSM in this ongoing cover-up,
Lelani Dowdine added,
Many papers are using Picture 1.
You can see it's a zoomed-in, cropped picture of Picture 2,
which looks to be at the barber's shop.
Charity today alleges he went into a barbers shop
with the staff called the police, but the police did nothing and no action was taken.
Let me read to you some of that horrifying report from charity today.
It is alleged that police were alerted to the man now charged in connection with the Huntington train incident
before a serious assault aboard a London mound service.
Sources have alleged that a man had earlier entered a barbershop on Queens Walk
in the Fletton and Woodston area of Peterborough once on Friday
and again on the morning of the incident.
Staff is said to have contacted police after being left terror.
by his behaviour, which can be seen on CCTV footage reviewed by Charity Today.
Eyewitnesses told Charity Today that a man appeared visibly distressed and agitated as he entered the barbershop,
brandishina knife on Friday afternoon and again on Saturday morning.
Footage show into Charity Today appears to show staff fleeing for their lives as a man entered the premises with a large kitchen knife.
One witness told Charity Today they believe they have previously seen the same man.
and suggested he may be known to some local residents.
A local business owner in Woodston, Peterborough claimed the police knew about it.
I encountered the man twice, once on Friday night and once again on Saturday morning.
I saw that big kitchen knife he had.
I have the CCTV footage God was watching over us.
It is alleged that officers were made aware of the man's presence,
but did not detain him or carry out an assessment.
At this stage, investigators have not confirmed any link between the.
the earlier reports in Peterborough and the subsequent train incident.
But it gets worse, folks.
It gets much worse.
Because the Huntington train suspect also allegedly stabbed a DLR passenger,
the night before his knife rampage.
So this took place in the early hours of Saturday at Pondoon Dock DLR Station shortly before 1am.
It is understood his victim suffered facially.
injuries after being attacked with a knife. Williams then left that location before going on a knife
rampage on the high-speed train to London on Saturday evening. And we all know what happened next.
Please, run.
I don't.
I don't know.
Go ahead.
Come on.
Come on.
I don't know the truth they're looking at least.
All right, they're all the place about non-dry.
What are you doing something?
They're looking for someone on the train.
They're going for someone on the train.
That's so good, he's up, I'm just for it.
Give me a hug!
Give me a hug!
Four, six, eight.
There's at least ten ambulances, twelve ambulances.
Oh my god.
Can you say it's cool, you know?
They don't need someone on the train.
Give it up to that train were truly horrific.
The scenes on board that train were truly horrific.
From the Telegraph, the train left Peterborough station at 7.30 p.m.
Moments later, there came a message over the tan.
We are aware there is an incident. Just keep yourself safe. What followed was 14 minutes of terror
as LNER passengers were trapped in a moving train with a marauding knife attacker. Some tried to hide
in the toilets. Others collapsed from their injuries, soaking the train seats and blood during a scene
that felt like something from a film, witnesses said. One passenger initially believed that it was
a Halloween prank until he saw blood covering the carriages. The accounts from those poor souls
on board as the driver fled to Huntington for 14 painful minutes were just hellish.
What happened to you, sir, last night? We just happened to be on the same, the same. And this is just
all from a lad's life that I tried to save, stop the bleeding. What did you see?
Just not worried.
Just a young lad that had a lot of stab wounds
and I just created a makes you turnicky to try and stop bleeding.
And how are you pushing these?
Pretty shaken up by the whole thing as you would expect.
You don't get on the train expecting anything like that but I'm just trying to get on with life now.
Can I ask you a name?
Thank you.
Andy. Andy.
Andy Gray.
Great. With an E.
Thank you, Annie.
I was in Coach H.
I was literally listening to Audubour on my phone.
And then I had guys suddenly run past going, run, run.
There's a guy stabbing, literally everyone, everything.
There was a few of us kind of looking each other, like thinking,
it was it a joke, like it's Halloween, I'd be pranking.
But then you could kind of see in their faces that were being serious.
I kind of got my stuff and I was running,
and everyone was really pushing behind this, really panicking.
And at this point, I was kind of asking questions, like, what's happening?
Like, who is it?
And they were, like, a guy's just stabbing everyone back there,
put my hand on this chair, like, just trying to push myself forward.
And then I look at my hand and it's covered in blood.
And then I look at the chair and there's blood all over the chair.
And I'm thinking, okay, this is pretty serious.
To some of the guys that had ran through to kind of alerts of run,
they were the ones who had also being stabbed.
So we're running over and getting to the end of the carriage,
still trying to work out, who is it?
What's their intentions?
What's their motives?
I just knew they were stabbing everyone.
So someone kind of said they thought they had a gun, pulled the emergency alarm and just trying
to work out with barricaded doors, come and we locked the doors.
But we couldn't really.
And then by the time I got to the end of the carriage, I realized I was actually at the back
of it and there was about six of us.
There was a girl, bless her, who was really, really in a bit of state because the guy
actually tried to stab her and one of the older guys was an absolute hero blocked it with
his head and he's got this like gash.
He had his gash on his head.
He's got a thing a gash on his neck
and he's kind of giving him
our jackets to keep the pressure on the blood.
While we're doing that, there's a person that I know
and he's kind of looked to me and gone like,
have you got anything we can use in case he comes through?
There's at least 10 ambulances, 12 ambulants.
We had a Jack Daniels bottle between us and that was it.
So we're kind of sitting there.
We've got one Jack Daniels bottle
is looking down on the end of this carriage
is praying somebody doesn't walk down
with a knife, with a gun.
We didn't really know what's going on.
So quite naturally, a nation already on edge.
After the stabbing to death of Wayne Broadhurst in West London last week,
allegedly by an Afghan illegal, who arrived here on the back of a lorry,
saw epping locals erupt in furious street protests,
leaving multiple people furious.
Save the nation!
Deportension!
Save the nation!
Save the nation.
Deportation.
Save the nation.
Deportation.
Save the nation.
Deportation.
Refugees are welcome here.
Say it now.
Say it's welcome here.
Refugees are welcome here.
But for our media class,
that is just dismissed as far right racism.
Indeed, the new host of Sly News's Breakfast Show,
who is meant to be a journalist.
His father was David Frost.
He's led him.
his dad's name down actually argued today that the cops should not disclose the ethnicity
of criminals. Why do we need to know that particular detail? I think the fact that a British
citizen is relevant, it kind of puts to bed the idea which could have perhaps led to the most
pronounced uprisings and anger on the streets if the person was here illegally. I'm not sure
where the ethnicity is necessary. I don't blame the police. They're following the new guidance
and these things evolve over time.
But it would be interesting to see where the final guidance on this ends up.
It's only temporary guidance at the moment.
Do you notice how fucked up our media classes?
They literally care more about protests on the street
than they do about innocence being stabbed by a madman on a train.
Think about that.
And then there's Lewis Goodall.
Toby Young tweeted last night,
quote,
conflict continues. The next
phase will be physical when politics ceases
to settle grievances. They're settled by other
means. Is that the sort of thing that a Tory peer
ought to be posting online? I don't think we
are there today. I'm not saying
I don't suppose Toby Young
was saying that we are there today
but we've got to make sure we
have, there are
some common values. I think Elon
Musk is wrong and I think people who think anybody
who thinks we are there today, I think they're wrong.
It's not anywhere near
it at any point.
any point? What, civil conflict in Britain, given, really, are things that bad?
I don't think we'll go there, but I think...
Toby Young seems to.
Well, I don't think he's saying that.
He said, well, I haven't read the piece, so...
Well, he's tweeting a link to an article which suggested it could be on the way.
And I'm just saying to you that he's a conservative peer.
He's got the conservative whip.
There would have been a time, I think, not so long ago, where he'd lose the whip for posting
something like that.
That's sort of hysteria.
I think it would be a big mistake not to confront some of the realities we have in our
society.
Sure, you can do that and not predict civil conflict.
I'm not sure he is doing that.
And that's what I'm not what I'm predicting, but I do want to make sure we don't simply sweep these issues under the carpet.
This tyranny from the MSM to brand anyone racist for asking questions that has caused, I believe, so much silence from our political leaders.
And it is sick.
As John James pointed out, since when was it part of British culture for train carriages to become abattoirs?
Who are these British nationals?
Who raised these British nationals?
Were they known into the security services?
Were they released from prison early?
Those poor passengers deserve better.
Tommy Robinson added,
Police now say there's only one suspect in Huntington mass train stabbing.
So who was the other British-born suspect?
They emphasised so much about why is there no footage from anyone released?
It's all very smoke and mirrors again.
And despite shocking new stories of the fact we are literally important.
14 criminals, Lib Dem MP, Liz Jarvis, wrote, any politician trying to use last night's
awful events to stoke hatred and division should be ashamed. That prompted Connor Tomlinson,
a regular hearing outspoken to reply, we don't have to live like this, Liz. It isn't normal.
The presence of these murderous savages in our country is optional. They were brought here by
government policy and they can be expelled and kept out by government policy. Question is, why are you,
you more worried about having that conversation than you are about law-abiding Brits being raped
and killed every day on our streets by people who never needed to be here in the first place?
Advance UK leader Ben Habib posed the very fair question. So they ruled out terrorism without even
knowing the identity of the attacker? And he added, we have the stab's name. We are told he is
British and out of Caribbean descent. Apparently that is meant to quell our desire to know why he
sought to kill innocent people on a train.
We have been given no motive for the attack
and no understanding of this man's beliefs
as wretched as they are.
We need chapter and verse on this barbarian.
Burnside added, having breathed a sigh of relief yesterday
that the train attack was carried out by a British national,
the government may be wondering if someone known to authorities
who is linked to four knife attacks
might show the state to be at fault in protecting the public.
And Rob Boyd raged, the story everyone should be focusing on about Anthony Williams
is how police bungled the chance to apprehend him after he stabbed someone on the DLR the previous day.
The incompetence is priceless.
And indeed it is telling to me that it's only political leaders outside of Parliament,
Habib and Nick Tenconi of UKIP,
who have been prepared to pose the very difficult questions needed.
I think the impression he was trying to give in that description was that those of us who were concerned about the assault on our country by illegal migrants and other criminals who shouldn't be here needn't be concerned that this is an entirely domestic British issue.
But remember that after the killings in Southport, the brutal killings of those three young girls, Stama described the perpetrator as a Welshman.
Stama indulged, in my view undoubtedly indulged, in deflection. He wanted to give exactly.
the same impression that Lovelace has tried to give us this morning about the identity of these
two men. Now, it's quite possible that they are, in every sense, British. But he didn't give us
their names. And I will remain extremely suspicious until we get chapter and verse on who these two
people are. It's almost inconceivable in my mind that this wasn't an act of terrorism. Why would
you needlessly pull out knives and seek to kill people, random people, on a train? If that isn't
terrorism what the hell is if it's not terror related in the most heinous of crimes where two
men have dressed in black block they've inserted themselves into a metal tube deliberately
to slash and slay and to terrorize unarmed defenseless innocent civilians if it's not terror related
then what's the explanation sign confessions and nothing else sign confessions
with regards to the motivations for this attack. Nothing else will do. Here's a thought. If it's not terror-related, what is it to do with? Because if it's terror-related, we all know that links to ideology. That makes it terrorism. This is very dangerous. As soon as you remove the terrorism label, it can't be to do with ideology. That means you can't point it at any one direction, be that demographic, religion. Causality goes out the window.
and we're there losing our minds thinking, well, we're just surrounded by knife-wielding psychopaths and maniacs.
The British public isn't buying it anymore. I'm not buying it anymore. We haven't for a very long time.
These acts are so heinous, so callous. The only thing that matters now is causality.
And I've seen different political leaders throw in their two cents about what needs to happen next.
Order must be restored to Britain. The only way you,
you can have order. Indeed, to restore it is to enforce it. The British government are making
no noises whatsoever about what's going to change. You can't throw money at the problem. If it's
ideologically related and therefore terrorism, this is something that has to be confronted and fought,
defeated, removed, eradicated, not just from our country, but from planet Earth. If it's
ideological related, it's terrorism. If it's not, it's lone wolf stuff, mental health stuff.
Do we really believe that?
Do you know we haven't seen the Prime Minister, our hated Prime Minister at all, since this event?
He still hasn't said a word about Wayne Broadhurst either.
On the night itself, he managed this one post on X.
The truly awful we're streeting, can you believe this?
More interested as people were being massacred on a train in posting about strictly
come dancing. The Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood said she was deeply saddened, but was much more
concerned to warn, I urge people to avoid comment and speculation at this early stage. Stephen Barrett
fumed in response, Shabana, don't you dare speculate hurty ideas about the mass stabber
Mahmood must never be our Prime Minister. And Reform UK's Laila Cunningham added,
I can't stop thinking about those victims, 10 beautiful lives, families and families.
agony waiting to see if they pull through. I am devastated. We are a nation in mourning and
Shabana's first instinct isn't fury, urgency or avow to catch them or make our train safe. Her priority
is to silence us, to manage our reaction, not our safety. A train was turned into a war zone.
What's next? We are sitting ducks now. Our great nation is desperate for leaders that feel our
fury, our fares, and are ruthlessly focused on keeping us safe. Instead, we have leaders
who want us to shut up and die. And by the way, have you noticed that this point about
don't speculate is also being wheeled out by the MSM? This was sly news.
Initially, the police have said very, very clearly, has the Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood
is that it's important for people not to speculate. It's important that people don't start sharing
images on social media
and you may well have loved
ones who have been injured and then people
are not, they've not been able to tell
their loved ones and it would be terrible
if people saw those images
of people who are hurt or people
who are distressed circulating on social
media. If anybody has any information
then please contact 101
or send it uploaded
to Cambridge Police's
website. Yes, that's a
very important point to make.
But there are doubts about the official
narrative, one outspoken viewer wrote to me yesterday. I was working last night. I'm a train
dispatcher at Cambridge and we were dealing with all the customers who were diverted to us. Some were
shaken. The staff was shaken as we have friends who work on our NER. We were told a different
story from what the news and the police are now spinning. I know who to believe and it's not
them. Now again, you're not going to hear about this in the MSN, but others were furious about the
length of time it took for the train to stop, with Daniel, whose partner was on board, writing
20 whole minutes of slaughter. No stops, nothing, Peter Britta Huntington. Of course, there is also
the elephant in the room that being British mourn doesn't mean you aren't a psychopath terrorist
who wants to kill Brits. Here's the list of shame. Lee Rigby Killers, UK-born, Southport Stabber,
UK-bomber, UK-bomber, 7-7 bombers, UK-born, 27-7-bombers, UK-born, 27-Westminster,
attack UK-born, Manchester Arena Bomber, UK-born, 2019 London Bridge attack, UK-born, and it goes on.
The UK has a massive issue with violent second-generation immigrants.
And Russell Quirk of Reform UK added, this has to be said.
Just because the police tell us that the two Huntington attack is a British-born does not mean
that they are not terrorists, nor does it mean they are not radicalised.
Many multiple victim attacks in Britain, including terrorism, have been carried out.
by people born here. More information is required before we are able to form a properly
considered view on this atrocity. We will not be gassed again. But the problem is, as you well
know, this is all about information control. Today in Parliament, even the Speaker,
Lindsay Hoyle, was saying, oh, you've got to be so careful not to prejudice the trial. They all
hide behind our draconian contempt of court laws. And what they want to do is shut down the very
real discussion that we know we need to have.
And this isn't just because of the train attack, by the way.
It's because of what happened to Wayne Broadhurst,
stabbed to death by the illegal.
Or at least allegedly stabbed to death by the illegal.
Again, I've got to be careful because of contempt of court.
How ludicrous is that.
We saw it with our own eyes on bloody camera.
Constantine Kirsten of Trigonometry,
credit to him because he was prepared to go there in a powerful viral post.
I want to share it with you.
Constantine wrote,
I don't want thoughts and prayers.
I don't want to hear about diversity being our greatest strength.
I don't want to know about communities coming together.
I want every single foreign criminal out.
I want the borders closed.
I want extremist organisations banned.
And I am saying it now before the facts are known for a reason.
We may not know all the facts, but we do know one fact.
British people don't go on stabbing sprees.
They just don't.
The problem is imported.
When I came to Britain in the mid-1990s, it was a safe, high-trust society.
And I don't care if the suspects in this case end up being home-growing.
Home-growing just means we should never have allowed their parents in.
We may not be able to undo all the damage that's been done to our country,
but we must immediately stop doing the things that got us here.
End all illegal immigration now.
tow the boats back to France
I don't care if the French get upset
deport every single
foreign criminal
right now I don't care about
their life right to a family life
you threw your rights out the window
when you decided to abuse our hospitality
out
no benefits for foreign nationals
if you want to come here pay your way
ban extremist organisations like Muslim
Brotherhood deport or imprison
extremist preachers, British people have had enough.
Look at the scenes from Birmingham at the weekend.
Yo!
Yo!
Donoie, that we're bang at the clock.
Bang it, I bang it.
One, bang it.
I bang it.
I bang it.
Go on.
Bang.
I bang it, because I bang it.
Bown.
I want more.
This is not Britain.
It must not be Britain.
It all makes a mockery of Mahmood's boast about knife crime murders being down.
As Peter Blessly put it,
remember, remember the 1st of November, bloodshed, horror and plot.
That date should serve as a watershed moment
when government and the police committed to robustly and relentlessly fight the scourge of knife crime.
Question is, will they?
Answer, of course they won't.
They all have blood on their hands.
Now, the superstar panel.
Peter C. Barnes and Howard Cox with me.
Howard Shabana Mahmood in the last half hour telling us,
don't worry your pretty little heads.
You know, just let the police take.
all the time in the world.
We still know nothing about this man.
He was trying to stab people
for the 24 hours before he got on that train
and the police did nothing, Howard Cox.
Absolutely, Dan.
And a beautiful introduction, mate.
I mean, a lot of the things are saying there
I echoed also on social media.
But listening to our home secretary
not say anything and hide behind.
And we're seeing it nonstop, aren't we, Dan, Peter?
We're seeing the fact that government
are covering up these.
things to suit their agenda. They can't blame anything to do. We can't, you know, if we criticize him,
he's black, he's from Caribbean. We're immediately, we're called a racist. And I've been called
that more and more now, especially as I've, you know, now part of, you know, they've left reformed
part of the vast UK. The simple fact is this. If I hear another politician saying my thoughts
and prayers is their first sentence, I'm going to put my fist through that television screen
when I see it. I'm sick to death of these platitudes. And in my tweet immediately after,
I said exactly that we need action
and I actually said if you don't mind me saying
do your fucking job. Totally.
Absolutely. No, we need it
but Peter C. Barnes
it clearly wasn't done
because it looks like and of course
we are unfortunately
constrained by these ludicrous contempt
of court laws but I mean what we can say
is the Cambridgeshire police have had
to report themselves
because by all accounts there were
multiple opportunities missed
with this absolute lunatic.
I mean, look at the footage from the barbers
and the barbers reported him to the police.
Well, is anybody surprised?
I generally am not surprised anymore.
That's half of the problem.
I thought that was a brilliant introduction, Dan.
I really do.
But, you know, we're told to give the police time,
let them investigate.
I wouldn't remind people there's currently 22 inquiries,
statutory or non-stitory inquiries going on at the moment.
22?
How much longer do we have to wait?
The idea of let them investigate is a kind of political tool to say, we don't know what to say,
we need some more time to think of an excuse for our own failure.
That's what it is.
But more importantly, when they do have these investigations, I look at the whole Jonathan Hall's
investigation into the terrorism legislation after Southport.
It says very clearly in that that prevent and the authorities need to move away from thinking
in terms of ideology and thinking in terms of violence.
And that is how we should start to reclassify things.
and it was ignored.
That was a report this year.
So they could do all their investigations,
but then they don't follow through on anything.
That's part of the big problem
is that we can do whatever,
all these inquiries and all the investigations,
but you don't follow through.
You don't back it up.
That's my problem with every bit of the political establishment
at the minute.
They talk a good game,
but when they have to actually do something,
they're not even in the room,
let alone behind a wheel,
have a car to get us anywhere,
because this is the point.
We are so at the point.
threat. Over the last couple of days, I've got a little tired of people say this is a peaceful
country. It isn't and it hasn't been for a long time. The rise in serious crime has gone
through the roof. The rise in terror-related offences since 2017 is astronomical. Astronomical.
And most of that, I hate to break it to people, is young, radicalised youth. Radicalization is the
problem. And the government is not in control of it. 100%. And critically, what I think we have to speak about
Howard Cox is the fact that these people do have different cultural norms, even if they are
British born. And that is proven time and again. So in this case, Howard, it's simply not enough
to say that this guy is a British national who happens to be black. That is not enough,
Howard. Unfortunately, I need to know where his parents are from, when they came to this country,
what were the circumstances behind the way that he was raised?
Those questions all matter.
We've seen that very recently held with Jihad al-Shami,
who is the ISIS terrorist who attacked the synagogue in Manchester.
And again, he came here in 2004, but was clearly radicalized while here.
So the fact that Sly News says we shouldn't even know the ethnicity of the attacker is ludicrous to me,
because I actually think we need to know much, much more
about this man's background.
Absolutely spot on.
We've been invaded by cultures
that just do not respect decency, culture, Christian values,
all those sorts of things.
They are coming here and we're being inflicting on this.
And one of the things I'd like to see
is a true definition of what terrorism is.
Because, you know, as you know, I'm going to Tommy's verdict tomorrow
and, you know, he's being charged under the terrorism act
for driving a car over to Spain
and also recently, obviously, previously to that,
for not giving his password to his phone
under the Terrorism Act.
What was yesterday but an act of terrorism?
It doesn't matter if it's a lone wolf.
People were terrorised.
In a situation, when you get this mass stabbing type situation,
it has to be terrorism.
And these people are coming from overseas,
as you quite rightly see,
or maybe second or third generation,
but their culture is being passed down
and it's inflicted and being implemented into our lives,
and all our families.
But I've got a daughter that's worried sick about going out at night.
We're in a situation at the moment in time
where we must have stop and search
and make sure we get these people.
Let's go back to that and catch the criminals
and put police back on the street.
Indeed.
And Howard is very right to point out
the Tommy Robinson trial verdict
on these ludicrous terror charges
is coming tomorrow morning.
The best place to find out exactly what is going on
from court is right here on outspoken. We will be live with you from 9.30 a.m.
Calls for the death penalty to be reintroduced and for women to be able to carry pepper spray after
the horrifying events on that train from hell over the weekend. As my friend Colin Brazier
writes that a deep gloom is descending over Britain, one atrocity.
at a time. He writes events which rock us to our foundations, leave us unsure of our footing,
fearful of what comes next, a sort of dark epiphany. Everyone will have their own.
For me, it was the hideous murder of Lee Rigby, a British soldier, slaughtered, not fighting
in some corner of a foreign field, but by deranged Islamists here on the streets of England.
But sad to say it might be any number of other atrocities, 7-7, Axel Ruder-Cabana, the Manchester
arena bombing. We each will have our own. What is extraordinary at the moment is how we are becoming
inured to horror. I do not say that vile attacks on our way of life have become normalized,
but simply that their share frequency and volume makes some desensitization inevitable.
As I started writing this piece, for instance, the court sentenced to Somalian to life
in prison for stabbing a random Britain to death at a high street bank in Derby. There is a
mountain sense that whether it's acts of terror or criminal savagery committed by illegal migrants
owls as a nation on the edge of a precipice. The thing about an abyss is that we have no
idea where the bottom lies. Will we look back on these days as harbingers of a greater doom,
even full-scale civil conflict, or a blip before good sense is made to prevail again?
But of course, lots of folks saying what's so shocking is that
these incidents are just moved on from so quickly, especially by the MSM.
Wayne Broadhurst, they didn't even bother to talk about his slain by an Afghan illegal
in Parliament at all.
And as Dr. Philip Kisali wrote, after the weekend's incident, there was a time when an
incident like this would have been in the news for weeks.
But something equally brutal will happen tomorrow or on Monday.
My country isn't my country anymore.
is unhinged. The street's unsafe. If you're out and about all the time on trains in London,
you just feel like you're waiting your turn. Mugging, assault, stabbing, whatever. It never used
to be like this. We were civilised. And what was fascinating was to see this caller on talk this
morning actually put the point to a very scared Richard Tyson, Jeremy Kyle, who said absolutely not
that Brits deserve to be armed given that we are facing these types of
atrocities watch.
I think now is the time that the great British public are allowed to arm themselves now.
There's that many psychopaths with knives running around perverts and all sorts.
Then we have to do something.
We just can't sit there and wait for this stuff to happen to us.
I mean, I'm all for legalising firearms.
I know it's not going to be a popular decision,
but we're going to be able to do something apart from just sit there and just wait to
It's really interesting, Richard, because Sean, I don't agree with him in that instance,
but I will say one thing that I picked up in the last hour and a half is a real fear.
I told the story of my son last night going back to London, 630 train,
rang me after 20 minutes, a drunken man in his 20s was having a go at him,
and I said get off the train.
There will be people today, tonight, tomorrow, and for the next few weeks
who will be sat on trains looking over their shoulder.
And it's an absolute disgrace that we've got to this point, isn't it?
I don't agree with Sean either, but there is a fear and we must pay tribute to the heroism which we actually hear about so often of just decent, ordinary British folk.
And the stories we're hearing of the LNER person who is, we believe, in a life-threatening condition who clearly saved lives.
Truly, truly remarkable.
The fast decisions of the driver.
and we pay tribute to them
and hope that
that everyone survives, of course.
With regard to knife crime,
we know that stop and search works.
The evidence is crystal clear.
Once again, the lefties are trying to deny it,
but it's all there.
Well, I'm not one of those people
who's going to say, no, no, no,
we can't be armed because seriously
this country is changing
and our enemies are armed.
Alex Phillips posts on this
if we are going to continue to have psychosis-inducing drugs on our streets
and a two-tier approach to policing them,
if we are going to import men from misogynistic cultures
who pose a danger to women and girls,
if we are going to see a continued frenzy of phone snatching,
stabbings and muggings as part of organised crime,
largely corralled by foreign gangs,
if this government is going to continue to do nothing
about cracking down on both possession and open borders
due to perilous wokeery.
And if the police continue to insist on wasting time patrolling social media
on our streets,
then we need to legalise pepper spray.
So Fika Corrin argued that in the UK you can be sentenced for up to 10 years for carry,
not even using, just carrying pepper spray.
And Samantha Markle, my friend, added,
the ability to defend oneself using at least pepper spray to potentially save their lives is a no-brainer.
The government is complicit in these attacks if they don't allow victims some protection.
These offenders have to be stopped.
Enabling this victim rate is a human rights violation.
And Charlotte Gill added, if politicians,
won't protect us from rapists and murderers.
What are we meant to do?
We're not even allowed to carry pepper spray.
How is this okay when politicians keep defunding the police?
We need to protect ourselves if the state won't.
Howard Cox, I'm sorry, at an absolute minimum,
women need to be allowed to carry pepper spray.
Absolutely right.
My wife has been crying out for this for a long time.
There are other things she could carry a can of deep heat around with her
or something like that.
That's legal.
The point is...
Sensible.
well it is and the point is dan the thing is our young women and our wives and our loved ones
need to have some sort of defence to stop potentially what could happen to them i mean if i was on
that train i don't know what i would be doing i mean i had a set of crutches you know because i had a
hip operation a few years back i was wondering if i was carrying on a train like that would i have gone
up there and whack the guy around the head with it yes i would and that's what i would have done
But the point is there's no way a woman, and especially one, a disabled woman, an older woman, etc., can never defend herself unless she's got something in her handbag that she can get out and spray in the person's face.
It may be only a temporary measure, but pepper spray isn't a permanent disabling device.
It lasts for about two or three minutes, that's all.
But that's time to pull the communication call and get off the train.
Yeah, I mean, Peter C. Barnes, when I was in Florida last year, the moment I arrived, my friends, give you.
did me some paper spray. It was great. It felt very, very safe having it. Google, do you know,
is there any way I could bring this back into the United Kingdom? Absolutely not. We're unarmed.
We are sitting ducks, Peter. Yeah, I thought the caller in the talk clip made the point that we
just sit and wait to die. But unfortunately, I agree with everything that's been said, but let's be
real. The only thing that's going to happen here is more clamped down on our freedoms. You wait for
it. The excuse of digital ID, although we could have known where he was if we had digital.
ID. We could, if we knew more where you were, if we know more about innocent people, the normal
everyday taxpayer, we can keep you safe. That will be the narrative that you're going to hear,
and it is terrifying. These moments are becoming far too common, and I think we are getting
a little too used to them, I have to admit, but they are being used and weaponized against
the state, and they're, sorry, against the people, because the state doesn't want to do what's
necessary. It will never allow us to be armed and it'll never allow us to even the thing of
pepper spray. Because as we know, once it's pepper spray that it's a little bit more, it's a little bit
more, a little bit more. The one thing they know is how to protect themselves, not how to protect
us. And that is the big problem. Yeah, I'm just looking at the live chat. Dionysus Greek Gog
said there's a new legal spray that sprays blue dye instead of pepper. It stays on the skin
and clothes for a week, which is good in terms of identifying people. But it wouldn't help in that
It's the same that's in the DiPax.
It's the DiPax stuff that's in when they move cash and things like that.
It's that I've heard this one and it's been tested and it's going through all the checks and everything.
I think there's some hope in that.
But again, it is why on earth are we having to talk about defending ourselves and ways to protect ourselves?
That's my point.
Why on earth is that the conversation and not who's getting fired?
Exactly.
But until these mass deportations and remigration, unfortunately, we are going to have to think about that.
Now, what about Rupert Lowe's cause?
He's written to the Prime Minister about this,
and he has said, now is the time to restore
the ultimate deterrent, the death penalty, Howard.
Well, it's interesting.
When you've got unequivocal evidence
that you've seen someone slashing children
or stabbing people on the train,
there's no excuse for say that,
look, thank you very much for being on the planet.
We don't need you anymore.
Here's an injection, bye, bye.
I'm sorry, I've got no problem with that.
It's where there is doubt that you can't have the death penalty.
And that's the one that I always will support.
We've got to make sure we've got to trust our judicial system.
But we can't trust, as Peter just said, our judicial system,
we can't trust at the moment in time.
So, Rupert, obviously I know Rupert very, very well.
And Rupert, you know, I'm not so he's shooting from the hit here,
but he is actually echoing the sentiment of millions of people at the moment
who's saying, how do we get rid of these scumbags
that are causing these things, these problems for all of us and continuing to.
As you say, next week there'll be another incident.
We know that.
We've already seen the one in Peterborough.
We've seen one in Favisham.
All these sorts of things.
And shouting, Alec Akbar, was one in Favish, I understand, yesterday.
What are the police doing?
Instead, they're still policing social media.
They're still blocking people, and that sort of knocking on doors with three people,
knocking on the door and saying, we've just seen your Facebook post.
You can't say that.
All that bullshit is still going on.
And instead, we've got to get them out of it.
their desks and obviously increase a number of police, but make them visible and part of the
community and find out what the hell was going on and not be scared to go into places where at the
moment they refuse to go. Yeah, I mean, Peter C. Buns, look, I totally understand that the death
penalty is not appropriate, for example, in the case of Lucy Lettby. Now, I don't want to go down
that rabbit hole. I've previously done so on this show, and I urge people to go and watch those
videos because I believe Lucy Lettby is an innocent woman and I know a lot of people disagree with
that. However, let's talk about Wayne Broadhurst for a moment. Let's not talk about the person
alleged to have committed that crime because of the draconian contempt of court laws. But what we can
say, Peter, is we witnessed it. We literally witnessed his death. It is on video. There is
absolutely no doubt in my mind. Let me be careful how I phrase this. But
that there is going to be problems with the evidence in that case.
Yeah, it doesn't surprise me, and like you, I'm waiting for that in particular line,
the problems of the evidence.
But what I will say is I've always been against the death penalty for one simple reason.
I'm not giving the right to kill people, potentially maybe one day myself, who knows,
to the most incompetent and corrupt group of people I've ever seen in my entire life.
I don't understand the argument that we think they're awful, we think they're terrible.
So do you know what we might do?
give them the right to killers.
We've already seen, as we've seen in the past and in evidence,
of manipulation, of police corruption, and all this stuff.
I will never support that because I don't trust people,
particularly those in authority in the British state.
And I'm sorry, I understand the anger and the fear I get.
I even told my partner on Sunday to stay at home
and don't leave while I was out,
because I know how these incidences tend to play out.
And it's never just a one-off.
Thank God this was.
but what I will say is this fear isn't going away
and you can't just tell people to shut up.
The government and the kind of establishment
had this idea that the problem is us talking about it,
not the people running around with the knife.
Now, I get Rupert's idea and I understand the anger and all of that.
I think Rupert's very more in line with the public
than the government are, certainly are.
But I would say that we need to channel that energy
and that anger into actually finding out
why these instances are happening,
who's responsible, kick them out
and get somebody in the job
who's willing to do what's necessary.
My big thing has always been about accountability
and now we have to start demanding it.
Breaking right now,
friends of Mike Graham,
the Axt Talk TV host,
tell me that he has now accepted
that his departure from the station is inevitable.
That comes as News UK bosses,
trial a loose women's star
and a columnist at the son, Jane Moore,
to replace Mike as the big name on tour.
Not sure if that's the answer.
Loyal viewers are looking for.
Kevin O'Sullivan hosted Plank of the Week again on the weekend.
He did refer to his close friend in the introduction watch.
To Plank of the Week, I'm Kevin O'Sullivan.
I'm standing in for my good friend, Mike Graham,
and I've got a great panel for you this week.
But the numbers don't lie.
The boycott of Plank of the Week is continuing
with about a third of the viewers
to what Mike Graham's episodes
were previously receiving.
When Jeremy Kyle returned from his 10,
day holiday this morning, hosting Mike's show Morning Glory, there was no mention of the man.
Hey, very, very good morning, so welcome to Morning Glory. It is Monday, it's Jay K and the
controls until 10 o'clock, you lucky people. Let me have you had a good weekend. So much in the
new. And on Wednesday, Jane Moore will be trialed on talk radio.
in the 10 a.m. slot in place of Julia Hartley Brewer, in what Talk Insiders tell me is a move by
News UK chief executive Rebecca Brooks to introduce a new big name to the channel.
So this is a really interesting one. All of this going on at the time that Mike Graham seems
to have accepted that his departure is now inevitable because he is still, and I do not
blame him for this for one second, refusing to hand his phone over to News UK HR investigators to my
superstar panel, Peter C. Barnes and Howard Cox. Howard, do you think it's fair the way that Mike
Graham has been treated? And what about the viewers of Talk TV, by the way, who are having to go through
exactly what viewers of GB News went through with me when it's like, oh, just forget about that guy.
Let's just pretend this isn't happening.
Well, Dan, when you left, I mean, I actually left that slot.
I used to watch you regularly.
So take it on the chin that you were bloody worth watching.
And the same with Mike Graham.
Mike Graham is actually made.
He's probably the most popular person on there.
Oh, he is, by far.
Yeah.
And what he said may have been clumsy, what he said,
but you don't treat people like this at all.
And the fact is to use, you know, news UK, news international, you know, stable,
like they can move people around because obviously Jane Moore writes for the son regularly and that sort
of thing. So they can move people that they're very fond of into best places. But Mike Graham has
been treated badly in my opinion. I'm still in touch with him and, you know, and I'm wishing him
well. He seems to be in quite high spirit, so I'm told. But unfortunately, I'd like to see him
come back and say, look, this is ridiculous. He did say a strong thing and all he's got to do is
sit in front of the camera. Yeah, I was a bit wrong with the way I said it, etc. But mind you,
He's saying he didn't say that.
He was hacked, didn't he?
So from that point of view, I'd love to see Mike coming back.
He became a friend.
In fact, Wednesday week, I'm actually on Plank.
I've been invited on the Plank.
So that'd be interesting.
Yeah, it's a really interesting one, Howard,
because when it comes to the post itself,
I have heard from quite a lot of people within talk
who say that would be the best approach for Mike
to actually just be honest about it.
Yep. I said it. And again, I don't know. Of course, I don't know. I trust Mike. If he says he was hacked, he was hacked. Do you know what I mean? But in some ways, there is an argument to say, actually, maybe just take the hostage video apology back. Yeah, you did post this. It maybe wasn't artfully phrased. But I think we all understood Howard, what Mike or whoever was posting on that account was trying to say, which is that unrestrained mass immigration.
has caused massive cultural issues in the United Kingdom.
And I'm sorry, the events of the last two weeks proved that.
Well, yesterday I actually did have, I spoke at an event in Croydon.
There was about 30 or 40 people that I was speaking to.
And I was asked a question, has multiculturalism worked?
And I category said, no, it hasn't.
So, okay, I didn't swear about it, but I was quite strong about it.
Should I be arrested and thrown out?
Should I be cancelled?
You name it then.
What we're saying now at the moment, we're not.
allowed to be free him. Peter, I think would back me up on that. Yeah, Peter, you're obviously
a regular on talk. So in some ways, this might put you in an awkward position. But what,
what's your view on this situation with Mike Graham? And how are people feeling about a
station? Yeah. So I, yeah, I owe a lot to talk. I think it's one of the best stations. I appear
on. I'm a freelancer. I'm not paid. Like, you know, I'm not under contract with them or that
kind of thing. But my big thing has always been what's good for the station, what's good for
the network, because what we need is narratives like come out of talk, like come out of you,
Dan and Howard, all the work you do in the mainstream, in the public consciousness. And I think
that's really important that we support channels, no matter what, to make sure that they exist.
What I don't particularly like is this kind of pile on to other presenters and people that have
appeared on the station consistently saying, oh, it's a betrayal of Mike and it's this and it's
that these people at talk, I tell you now, if I was ever backed into a corner and I needed
some help, I hope they would be stood behind me because they are some of the most impressive
journalists and commentators and they know so much and they react to pretty much everything
and they put the viewer first. I genuinely do believe that. Of everything I go on, they
rearrange entire shows on the fly to make sure that, you know, callers and texts and messages
and all of this actually heard. And I think that's important. When it comes to the internal
stuff. I'm not part of Net News UK. I don't really have that big of an opinion on it. I get
what, I get both sides of the argument. And some people may see that as a cop-out, but genuinely,
my often rule on these things is if it's nothing to do with you, stay out of it. But I will say
that I know a lot of people miss Mike and a lot of people have a huge amount of respect for him,
myself included. But, you know, maybe this Jane Moore might be good. I've read a columns
a couple of times, but I haven't seen her on loose women. But things do change. Things have to change
at times. And we've just got to give things as much kind of leeway as we can. We must stay
firm on the issues of free speech. How would you all bang on that we self-censure, that we have
huge problems with clamping down on free speech and all the rest of it? But I don't believe
the answer is cutting a network that dedicates itself and the people in it, like Kevin O'Sullivan,
who I count as a friend and a mentor, puts his reputation on the line every single night
to talk about these issues that we think are really important. Every single person there
puts their reputation, their livelihood, and their careers on the line to talk about these things.
Julia Harley-Bruer was that controversial to the government.
She was on a watch list and she got the government to bend to her and apologize.
That's how powerful these people are.
And when they put their minds to something, I'll tell you now, they could bring down governments
and they probably will bring down this one, luckily.
But yes, they might get things wrong.
They're not perfect.
They're people.
But, yeah, I have to admit, there's a lot going on.
And it's just all in flux.
and, you know, it's, again, this might get me into a lot of trouble, but I've done my best,
but there we go.
No, it is difficult, and it's very difficult for people who obviously are regulars on the station.
I do understand that.
My view on this is nuanced as well, because obviously I'm affectionate about talk.
I was the drive time presenter there before I went to GB News.
But I guess, Howard, my view is shaped a little bit based on what happened to me at GB.
and I feel it's pretty similar to what Mike is going through now.
I mean, you could have honestly cut Mike Graham open, you know, and he would bleed talk TV.
He sort of was the station, right?
He adored it.
That's how I felt in terms of my relationship with DB News.
And if you have a person like that and you don't tell the viewers and the listeners what's really going on,
I understand why they're so upset because we all know this is going on.
on. At the same time, Howard, I have spoken to very senior people at Talk who say, look, this is a
process. It is a formal process. It is a legal process. It is an HR process. And do you want to lose
us all? Do you want us all to lose our jobs? Do you want to lose the whole station? And I guess,
Howard, probably we would say Tor is a not perfect station, but it's still a force for good
compared to most of the mainstream media in the United Kingdom. Well, as you're quite
rightly put. I mean, G.B. News and Talk TV actually held hope for me in terms of actually truly
representing the majority of thinking of this country. And thank heavens, we've got, you know,
independent channels like yourself and Maya Toosie and Paul Thorpe, you can go on forever.
These people are actually giving airways to various people. Unfortunately, one of the things I feel
bit bitter about at the moment, I haven't been banned from Talk TV or GB News as yet, because I'm still
talking about the motorists in Fairfield, UK. But Ben Habib, and to some extent, Rupert
low, are not actually, you know, you know, went as soon as...
And Ben Habibis set up the party on June the 30th, the Advanced UK Party.
And before that, he was on three times a week, the GB News.
And since then, he hasn't been gone back.
Now, that must be cancellation.
And who's making those decisions?
I know.
And he was one of the most popular guests.
I don't like that.
See, that's something I don't like.
I do feel, Peter.
And look, I know you're not one of these people, because you have...
actually spoken up against Reform U.K. You know, you've been very critical of them.
But you have to admit, Peter, there is an alliance between GB News and Talk TV with Reform
UK, which does mean if you are critical of Reform U.K. or you support Tommy Robinson,
for example, or you support Advance U.K., you are much less likely to be booked on those
stations now. And I think that does go against free speech.
Yeah, I can see the pattern
And I can understand why people think that
Again, I don't book people
I have no real say in any of it
But I will say that, you know,
I'm a prominent critic of reform
And I'm on both talk and GB News pretty regularly
I was there just on Saturday
I was there on talk with Rupert Lowe
On the Sunday.
So, you know, we have to be careful
when, you know, we start talking about
conspiracies and collusions and all the rest of it
Well, let's sure we get some evidence
before we start, you know,
everything out of accusations.
You are a brilliant exception to the rule,
Peter C. Thubbs. And look, I do always say, I do always say, and I really have to stress this,
there are still some great people on talk. There are still some great people on GB News.
The problem is they are controlled a lot. And again, what my message is to Mike Graham is just
come over to this side, Mike. You're going to love it. You're going to absolutely love it because
this is going to be so freeing for you. And in the same way that it was so freeing for Megan Kelly in
the US and Tucker Carlson in the US, it's been so.
freeing for me and genuinely, I think, and that's not to say I agree with Mike on everything,
and I know that there are people who are very angry about Mike's views, about Tommy Robinson,
for example, but I honestly think in this space, in this independent space, Mike will be able
to explore these ideas in an honest way. And I wouldn't be surprised if he changed his mind on
a couple of those issues too. But of course, we will keep across the story because no one in
the mainstream media is covering it at all. I wasn't.
I wonder why. Breaking today, Prince Harry has just declared war on his brother, Prince William, yet again. Does this man have a death wish? Like, seriously, mate, William is going to strip your titles, strip your children's titles, and make sure that your beloved, Ms. Megan Markle, is unable to cash in on her Duchess of Sussex title. If you were not very, very careful, so these types of stunts are not a good idea.
Let me explain to you what has just emerged.
Prince William arrived in Brazil for his Earthshot Prize.
Now, this has been signposted literally for months.
It is the biggest moment of William's year.
It matters hugely to him.
And let's be honest, after the terrible publicity that the British royal family has suffered internationally
over the past couple of months, especially the past fortnight,
because of Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor and his fall from great.
what we need is some good international publicity for Prince William.
But check this out.
Despite having promised to swap diaries with his father
in order to coordinate no major clashes between Harry's events and Prince William,
he has scheduled a last-minute trip to Canada
in order to take the attention away from Prince William's big event.
This is a ludicrous decision, a childish decision, and William is going to be utterly ropeable.
His friends, actually, already briefing to Tom Sykes of the Royalist substack.
Let me just take you through this.
He writes, Harry reignites war with William, blinds signing his brother with announcement of a Toronto trip.
And he says that it will clash directly with the Prince of Wales Earth Shop Prize events in Rio Gigenero on Wednesday.
The announcement issued by Harry's team just as William touched down in Brazil for the Environmental Awards' fifth iteration and the COP 30 buildup immediately raised tempers among William's friends.
Harry will travel to Toronto to support the Military Veterans Charity Chew Patriot Love Foundation undertaking engagements on Wednesday and Thursday.
His team insisted the King's office was notified as a courtesy.
Still, the timing appears calculated to provoke William who will be handing out the Earthshot Prize that day.
as speculation intensifies that the Wales camp plan to strip Harry Megan
and their children of their princely titles when William becomes king.
Harry's disingenes a stage of public event during the traditional remembrance period
will strike many observers as needlessly antagonistic.
Until now, the Duke was thought to be rebuilding relations with his father.
Sources say Charles and Harry have resumed regular phone calls
since their brief tea and talk meeting in London in September.
It was widely expected that Harry would avoid overshadowing Remembrance Sunday
on November the night and perhaps wait until Armist Day on November 11th,
make his own gesture. Instead, he has triggered a fresh optics war. His team denies any
attempt to overshadow Williams Rio Showcase featuring Kylie Minogan attended by global political
leaders, but blame the late announcement on Harry's lack of international protected person status
and ongoing security disputes. That explanation is unlikely to convince William when placed beside
William's glittering earthshot Jambria charity dinner in Toronto risk looking modest. To many inside
and outside the Royal Machine, Harry will appear motivated by resentment and a desire for revenge rather than
respect for the remembrance calendar. If so, it is a miscalculation and a reminder that the
brothers ceasefire remains anything but secure. And the reason why William needed this good
publicity, of course, is because even Donald Trump is describing the current situation with the
royal family. Remember, he's a big fan of Charles and William as tragic. Watch.
in the UK has had his royal titles stripped away because of the Epstein Scallon.
I know you're close to the Royal Family there. Do you have any thoughts on...
I feel very badly. I mean, it's a terrible thing that's happened to the family.
That's been a tragic situation.
And it's too bad. I mean, I feel badly for the family.
To my superstar panel, Howard Cox and Peter C. Bans.
Peter, can you believe Prince Harry?
has done this? Like, isn't it just time to grow up and stop constantly trying to overshadow
and destroy your brother? Also, Peter, it's not sensible for him for him on a strategic point
of view because William is not going to have any of this very soon. Their titles are going
to be gone. Trust me. Yeah, on the issue, can I believe it? Well, of course I can. It's Prince Harry
and he's not the smartest kid in the room, is he? I mean, you know, I've met chocolate teapots
are more use than him.
But, I mean, it's rather ridiculous, if we're being honest.
But again, it's just no surprise.
He's a narcissist and he's a child and he's never been told no.
And then he conceives every chance of he's been, you know,
that he might be in the wrong as completely impossible.
And there we are.
You can't deal with these people.
You know, you shouldn't negotiate with a terrorist.
You shouldn't negotiate with a, you know, with a prince who's been told no.
That seems to be the rule here because, of course, he was going to always do this.
It's in his nature to do it.
He has a, he's got a chip on his shoulder.
And, I mean, you might as well.
you know, get some Doritos and use it
as a salsa dip. It's rather ridiculous
but there we are. I have to
admit, Will is going to definitely take
all steps necessary because I think
actually stripping Andrew was
William's idea. I don't believe it was the king's
idea in the site. Because if it was, he'd have done it a while
ago. I think, you know, you can have the arguments that he's
waited and waited. I think William wanted
rid of him and he wants to sit
and him nowhere near the
Windsor Estate for when he becomes
king. I think this was a kind, this was
a moment and a difference between Will and Charles, because I think William's got that edge.
He's got that rough edged and that sharp edge to be able to go, no, no, no, this is bigger than
the family. This is about the future and the legacy of the royal family. And he gets that.
I think Charles is a little too soft on this. Of course, what I think Donald Trump hit the
point very well there. He says, it's a tragedy for the family. We forget that the royal family
are a family and they have disputes like everybody else. Unfortunately, there's a significantly bigger
and on the front pages, but they are, it is always sad to see brothers at war. It always is.
It is, but I mean, Howard, given Harry, continues to act this way, despite warnings. I mean,
he promised King Charles in that meeting that he wasn't going to deploy these stunts anymore.
And here's Williams big event, and he's done it yet again. I mean, Howard, my personal view
is that King Charles should not wait another day. I am actually becoming increasing
furious that he's not learning the lesson from history when it comes to Andrew and actually
just saying now is the time to also strip Harry, Megan, Archie and Lily of these titles.
But what do you make of this decision for Harry to be so egregiously aggressive in terms of
his counter-programming of William's big event?
Well, I call it the rattle out of the Pram syndrome.
You know, this is a classic case.
He lacks intelligence.
He lacks maturity.
We've said all these things.
He isn't the sharpest cookie in the box.
And he didn't get his own way.
he thought, you know, what he did, getting the grand ceremony, marrying, you know, this American lady.
You know, good luck to her.
You know, it went, well, we all loved her, didn't we, at the time, when they got married?
We thought this is great.
But then they went to their heads.
And as far as I'm concerned, the sooner that William and Kate become king and queen properly,
and the current king and Camilla moved aside, a bit like in the situation that we had with the queen mother,
when our beloved queen reign,
she was a good advisor.
But I think William, in my opinion,
is a great advert for this country.
And I'd love to see him actually being the king of this country.
He presents himself well.
I'm worried about our king at the moment.
He's not well.
I understand you quite well.
I speak to Arthur Edwards quite a lot.
And he's the photographer.
And he tells me that he's not well.
I mean, I don't know how bad he is,
but I understand it's more serious than we think.
And, you know, someone like King Charles at the moment,
You see, I don't think he's speaking up for Britain as enough.
He's the head of the Church of England,
and he's not actually shouting from the top
that our Christian values should be, you know,
taking over and leading the fight against multiculturalism.
He's not doing that.
They say he mustn't step in politically,
but he's quite happy to go to a mosque
and take his shoes off and pray with them.
Yeah, quite a lot of people are now concerned that the king,
and I mean, I say quite a lot of people, Howard,
I'm one of them, you're one of them,
concerned that it feels like the king sometimes actually wants to promote Islam more than
he promotes Christianity, which is a very, very bizarre position for the head of the Church
of England. Peter, I just wanted to come back to what you were saying about this very much
being a decision driven by William, because that has been my reporting for a long time.
But what's so interesting is that you have these client journalists, right?
And they literally just swallow hook, line, and sinker, whatever PR bollocks, basically, they are fed by Buckingham Palace.
And when I launched outspoken, actually, one of the things I said is that, because I break a lot of royal news, but I don't just follow what the Royal Road to do.
But I was so embarrassed about that awful Emily Maitlis on the fake news agents, right?
Because she actually did a genuine report last week, a correct report, which was basically what you were just saying, Peter, that this had all been very.
very much driven by William, clearly gets a phone call from Buckingham Palace, right?
I can just tell by what she's saying and the quotes.
And all of a sudden, she does a total 180 on her initial report.
So I want to play you this from the fake newsaget and then get your reaction off the back, watch.
Something, to be honest, that I had not properly understood.
And I think many in the media had not properly understood was that Prince William was not
actually the one driving this. We'd all understood that the real sort of heft of this move
came from Prince William. I was told last night that it is Prince William, actually, who's
most concerned about the state of his uncle's mental health, something that he takes very
seriously. His work, Kate's work has been very close to the issues of mental health. And I was
also told that there was a bit of discomfort. Maybe that's too strong. There was a bit of
nervousness from the siblings, from Prince Edward, from Princess Anne, who didn't want their
eldest brother to go too hard on their other brother, Andrew. But it was the king himself who
had nerves of steel. And again, contrary to what we read in the newspapers, I heard that
originally there was extremely strong pushback from Andrew, who was trying to find every
means and every reasons he could to resist this. And when I asked last night what brought Andrew
around, I was told that the monarch had simply made him see the ultimate threat. In other words,
and this is a phrase that was used to me, I don't think it's that the words that the king used,
you'll topple us all. In other words, Andrew did not want that on his shoulders. The idea was
that the king had put to him something in the tenor of.
of would your mother really want to see you putting at risk the whole establishment?
So, Peter Van's one call from Buckingham Palace, and it's like, this was all down to the king.
It's like, that's just not true, because the king allowed Andrew to release that statement two weeks ago,
saying that he had voluntarily given up the Duke of York title, and the king thought that that was going to be enough.
It was William who had to step in and go much further, and it just frustrates me that she's so,
You know, she's such an establishment shill.
One phone call gets her to reverse all of her reporting,
which actually had previously been accurate.
And I'm not going to reverse my reporting because of one phone call from Buckingham Palace
because we've just got to report the truth.
I mean, I've seen some stupid things said.
That has to be from that woman, the most stupid thing I've ever seen said.
It was just ridiculous.
How stupid does she think we are?
I mean, that's the contemptible.
She thinks she can say it and no one's going to call her out.
on it. Of course, William has led this. He has, he's got that edge. He's got the hardened bit
where he's actually, you know, Andrew doesn't care about anybody but Andrew. You know, that's all,
that's what history shows us. He's given opportunities to put country first, to do things for
his mother, you know, and he's let him down every single time. So why would it be any different
this time? It's that's just a stupid thing to say. Of course this was William. And he's all about
the fact that I think he's, William has got the eye of royalty and monarchy better than Charles. And I go
back to what Howard would say about how people are, if they want the king to speak out more,
it's mainly because Charles doesn't understand how to be king. He's trying to be liked,
not lead. That's the problem. We have a problem in this country. All of it can be stemmed
because we have no leaders. We have people that want to be liked by people. And I think the
king is a prime example. And William understands leadership, probably better than his father does.
And that surprises me, but I have to admit, I think William,
It will be a great ambassador for this country.
I think we're desperate for it.
I think the royal family needed.
But if that's Buckingham Palace's way of trying to elbow in on a news story,
they need a new press advisor because that was pathetic.
Well, yeah, I mean, it's interesting because there was more briefing over the weekend
to the Sunday Times.
Again, this was from Buckingham Palace trying to make Charles look as if this was really his doing.
and friends of the king pointed to the line in Charles's statement,
these censures are deemed necessary,
notwithstanding the fact that he continues to deny the allegations against him.
And one friend said, that was extraordinary.
That's the closest you'll get to the king
and his court passing judgment on his brother.
They also said that for a long time,
Prince Andrew had removed any references to,
victims of abuse from his statements and they say now the king has lost his patience you can see
this statement is no longer a statement by committee it's a statement from the king but they also
said that other friends of the king believe it was actually the fact that he was heckled
during an engagement remember last week that meant something changed they say what's changed
in two weeks is the king and queen have been out taking the temperature of the public they're doing
national surveys at every engagement they have felt the public anger and they have acted. You can feel
the exhalation of the public going at last, something we understand. There's been too much
technical and confusing posturing of titles being put into abeyance. People didn't know what that
means, but with the King taking hold of it now, this feels final. This is the handling people
would have been waiting to see. The friend out of the King and his courtiers could see that the
Andrew problem was becoming a contagion that was more serious than the illness itself. With more and more
questions being asked about the institution. Don't forget, this is what the king is built for.
He's been forged in the fires of reputational adversity, and I've never seen him struggle
to make the big, difficult decisions. But I mean, again, Howard, he didn't actually make the
decision until he was heckled. And I don't really think one heckler should be changing
royal history either, Howard. Because remember, this heckler was actually an operative for
republic, which is the group which campaigns for republicanism.
And so they are oddly empowered now as well.
Do you know what I mean?
A one-off random heckler should be ignored, you know?
So all of this decision-making has been pretty terrible.
But as you say, Howard, you've got to have personal sympathy for the King
because he's trying to deal with all of this at the same time
that he is suffering from incurable cancer undergoing treatment.
And I don't forget that.
But it's not an easy situation.
No, not at all.
I mean, he's head of the family as well.
It's his brother and son that causing this turmoil within the family.
That heckler, I'm surprised he got that close.
I would have thought the police again should be actually, you know,
investigating the people who are standing that close to him.
But, you know, what's happening at the moment is a distraction beyond belief in our country.
And we've got other things to worry about.
And I really don't give a toss about Andrew or Harry at the moment in time.
I really, what matters to me, what we talked about earlier,
is the safety and security of our people.
And the king should be coming out and actually, you know,
for once actually standing full front in front of the Camerons
and talking about Christian culture, Christian values,
everything we should be celebrating
and talking about the fact how great our country is
if we restore ourselves back to those Christian values.
I don't hear him doing any of that.
No, very, very good point.
Thank you both so much.
Howard Cox of Fairfield.
all UK and how are you feeling about this dastardly budget and 23 days i think well dan i hope you
have me on before it's yeah it is 23 days hope you on beforehand because uh i'm hearing the field
duty will be going up and you know after 15 years of keeping it down and uh well i expected you to go
up last year and i have to say thank you rachel rees but she as a front bench labor spokesman
said to me privately after he said how had you done a great job as ever for 15 years doing this
but we went for the farmers this time but next year we're going for the most of the
motorist. So watch this space.
Well, assholes. Okay, no, we definitely will have you back on
before the budget, Howard. And of course, we'll see you
tomorrow with the Tommy trial. And Peter, where can people
follow your brilliant Barnes Network now on Substack?
Yes. So I'm launching a space of new shows. I've got
my Substack, and you can find me on there. If you search for
PC Barnes, 1, 2, 3 on pretty much any social media
platform, you will find me. But yeah, over the next
couple of weeks, you'll probably see a lot more
adverts and a lot more promotion
about all the things I've got cooking just before
Christmas. Amazing. Well, I'm very excited
about that. And Howard,
make sure you look out for Lauren the
insider, who is going to be there outside
of court tomorrow. We'd love to speak to you.
We are live
with the verdict from 9.30am.
This is the earliest show we've done for outspoken, but I'm
very excited about it because you cannot trust the
mainstream media, as you well know, Howard, when it comes
to reporting of these Tommy Robinson court cases.
So thank you both so much. Howard Cox, Peter C. Barnes, superb superstar panel. We will see you both soon.
We're going to reveal today's greatest Britain and union jackass in just one moment.
First to your feedback. So much of it coming in today. Thank you.
Ono Tail says, what a joke this establishment is. Tommy Robinson accused of terrorism for not giving his pin.
But you've got men hacking people on a train and it's not terrorism. Well, exactly.
Stuart Turbot says Khan wants driverless train.
Imagine that the train would not have stopped at the next station of Khan gets his way.
Do you know what? I've always been pro-driveless trains, but you make a very sound point, Stuart,
and, you know, I'm going to think about that, actually.
Andrew D.B.O.4 says, they've learned nothing from Southport, still insulting our intelligence.
Optimist Gals says, so a nutter has left a rampage for three days on the rail network with a huge knife,
yet we can't carry pepper spray, bloody insanity.
Adrian Smith says, it all comes out in the end.
Ruder Cabanist's head teacher was stopped from speaking out.
due to claims of racism. The race baiters are as guilty as the murderers and the rapists.
And Andy Kirby 3121 says,
police are useless, rang 999 because someone was in my home.
The crazy lady that answered my emergency 999 called called, told me,
it's your house. Tell them to leave. What a joke. Now I'm tooled up.
Okay, your nominations for today's greatest Britain and Union Jackass.
Worst Britain in the world today, the nominees are Ed Miliband nominated by its only me
44 for his heat pump lunacy. Lisa Nandy nominated by Karen Quinn for the way that she
dealt with Matt Goodwin on question time last week and John Healy, the Defence Secretary, because
you know, he just said we all need to be more vigilant after the weekend's train attack.
In third place, with 16% of the vote, John Healy. The runner-up was 17% of the vote, Lisa
and Andy, but far and away, your union jackass today with 67% of the vote. It is the
Environment Secretary Ed Miliband. And the greatest Britain today is that L-N-E-R member of staff
unnamed. With Sarah Booth writing, the unnamed member of the cafe staff who put himself
between the crazed knife man and the passengers. God bless you. Okay, we're moving over to
Substack. Now for the uncanceled after show where Megan Markle has been exposed for a fake
Instagram publicity stunt involving her miserable husband, Prince. Harry, we're going to reveal all as
we team up with the Royal News Network. A reminder, we will be live tomorrow morning, 9.30m.
We'll still have our normal show at 5 o'clock with Lalani Dowdine and Elizabeth Fox. But I really hope
you join us at 9.30 a.m. tomorrow morning. You can schedule that if you just click on the live tab and you will
see that show a special Tommy Terror Trial, The Verdict episode with Lauren the Insider and Don
Keith. But at this stage, we're coming off YouTube and moving over to Substack, join at www.
www. outspoken.com. We will be back at 5pm UK time tomorrow, midday, eastern, 9 a.m.
Pacific, but do remember that special broadcast live 9.30 a.m. tomorrow morning. And most
importantly, I promise to keep fighting for you.
