Dan Wootton Outspoken - TRUTH ABOUT WHO REALLY CAUSED RIOTS EMERGES IN BOMBSHELL COURT CASE AS ASIAN MAN GUILTY

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

The MSM will not tell you about this story, but it really matters: An Asian man called pleaded guilty in court Ehsan Hussain to posting messages in the wake of the Southport Massacret to deliberately stoke violence under the fake name of Chris Nolan. This fits into the major story that Dan has reporting but the rest of then media will not touch that the so-called “riots” were deliberately started by the far left, including Antifa. In his Digest, he will explore the seismic story in a way you won’t hear anywhere else. Then his Superstar Panel – Mayuran Sentilnathan and Molly Kingsley – weigh in. PLUS: Britain’s richest plumber Charlie Mullins joins Father Calvin Robinson in joining the brain drain from the UK AND: Katie Hopkins finally calls out Carol Vorderman To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show for 30-minutes extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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massacre to deliberately stoke violence under the fake name of Chris Nolan. So I'll tell you about the details of this seismic case in a way that you won't hear anywhere else in my digest, but this fits into the major story that I have been reporting that the legacy media simply will not touch, that the so-called riots were deliberately started by the far left, including Antifa. Also coming up today, my superstar panel Myron Zentel-Nathan and Molly Kingsley weigh in on Labour's astonishing poll slump as Reform UK continues to surge. Plus, Britain's richest plumber Charlie Mullins joins Father Calvin Robinson in the brain drain out of the UK. I think we'll be in recession very soon. And, you know, I've been speaking to different billionaires and millionaires over the last week, and they're already gone. There's Alfie Besk on to Monaco. There's other

people that are leaving Dubai, Italy, anywhere but the UK, because they just don't know how to look after people that are contributing to the economy. And finally, finally, someone calls out Carol Vorderman. Over to you, Katie Hopkins. Well, Vordernorks, I wonder if you could answer a question for us. Now, I know you take responsibility for the Labour victory and also you're really, really good at maths. So can you explain to us why old ceramic bobhead Rachel Reeves has stolen 300 quid from the very poorest pensioners who will die this winter in order to give 11 billion quid to despot dictators and tyrants that will Vaudenauks. Vaudenauks much more from Katie Hopkins versus Vaudenauks later in the show. Then in the uncancelled after show today the hollywood reporter is quoting a source close to harry and megan describing the duchess of sussex as a dictator in high heels i'll unpick

this astonishing royal story with lee cohen stateside and you can register to watch on our own website right now www.outspoken.live it's a safe space free of censorship your support at just five pounds a month not only gives you 30 minutes of extra content every single weekday, it allows me to continue making this independent daily news show. So one more time this week, let's go. You won't find the most important newsflash of the day anywhere within the corrupt MSM. But you know I have been reporting for weeks that we have not been told the full truth about the so-called riots in the wake of the Southport massacre which were used by Tute Akir as a way to bludgeon the white working classes into terrified silence. It was always abundantly clear to me that many of the major instigators and agitators

were hard left activists, many connected to Antifa, who were desperate to stir up tension and then pin the blame on the social media users expressing genuine horror about the deadly stabbing of three beautiful young girls at a Taylor Swift dance class. Today, the very tip of the iceberg was revealed in a bombshell court case that the vast majority of the legacy media has chosen to ignore, even though they went wall to wall, wall to wall on the jailing of pensioner housewives who made inartful Facebook posts. But this is much more sinister.

Much more. This is Ehsan Hussain. But during the unrest, he used the fake name Chris Nolan on social media in a deliberate bid to try and cause hatred and violence against his own ethnic group. Now credit to the Daily Telegraph, one of the only outlets that has actually reported the details from court alongside the Daily Mail. So let me read them to you. Ehsan Hussain, 25 years old, used the name to post messages calling for disorder that spread across Britain. The messages appeared on a telegram chat group called Southport Wake Up, which had more than 12,000

members. Screenshots of the messages obtained by the police show Hussein urging people to conquer Al-Amraq, a predominantly Muslim neighborhood neighbourhoods, stating, sick of these smelly scumbags. Other racist messages, Hussein's contribution to a conversation he had with two other users, included, quote, we've got a blues match on Saturday, we can do a part two on Saturday, get these P word scums out. He also wrote, Birmingham first, we need to take back what's ours and we're doing P-word bashing. Hussein from Yardley pleaded guilty at Birmingham Magistrates Court to contributing threatening, abusive or insulting written material intending to stir up racial hatred between August the 3rd and August the 6th. Now you might remember what happened in Yardley. There was indeed an assault and criminal damage

which we covered here on Outspoken on August the 5th. So this was a false flag operation in place. And my belief is it was far bigger than just a son Hussein. But will we ever get to the bottom of it? Sadly unlikely, given it doesn't fit the establishment and media narrative. As Chris Rose posted on X, hope he receives a similar sentence to the white working class people he was trying to provoke. Otherwise, others could just say that they were joking as well. He has been warned he faces jail, but I won't hold my breath. In the meantime, though, the deranged MSM have decided to continue to create a far-right bogeyman in bogus reports. There is no more dishonest actor in the British media than woke ITV News or its over-promoted loser Paul Brand, who devoted an entire show to it last night. I'm going to show you parts of it just so you can see how hysterical

and removed from reality this is. Vehicle was threatening to engulf surrounding buildings. Restaurant owner Lookman feared for the lives of local residents. He believes the rioters' objective was to terrorize the local community. I think that just wanted to set an example that we have to live under constant fear. I think they have gone beyond cruelty in order to cause our businesses, our lives, our properties in general,

people from ethnic minority backgrounds, the fear. And now I can definitely tell you people are living in constant fear. There was a lot more too about the social origins. Experts agree that the shape of the far right in Britain has changed markedly in recent years. If you think about the 90s, you had far-right groups who had a leader, they'd go to the pub, have their weekly meetings, pay their fees. That doesn't really happen any more. What happens more and more is you have these very decentralised

online far-right networks where anyone can join, anyone can share their ideology, anyone can mobilise. Despite this, there are certain threads that tie far-right activists together. It's about either British culture or white people being replaced by people as they would see it from an alien culture. But it's this idea that basically multiculturalism in Britain has failed and it's in crisis and we're heading in some cases on the more extreme end, they believe we're heading towards some sort of civil war. At 1.59am on August the... Now, you know, in my opinion, you're not far right to say multiculturalism has failed.

You're dead right. But according to that definition, Elon Musk is on the far right. Father Calvin Robinson is on the far right. You probably are too. But Paul Brand wasn't finished. He posted on X, Exclusive data shows a 327% rise in far right activity during summer riots.

ITV Tonight has quantified the surge in social media traffic as one former senior police officer tells us that the far right has been underestimated. What absolute bullshit where is the paul brand investigation into the real threat the provable threat of islamism extremism i wish itv would hire someone like tom slater of Spiked Online, who puts all of this into perspective? To the extent the commentariat is concerned about Islamist terrorism, they only seem concerned that it will fuel a supposedly burgeoning far-right backlash. IS murdered three at that festival in Germany.

When you look at something like this, you just really worry about how it could be used by those on the far right to stir up hatred. Those riots, egged on by hard right influencers, should horrify anyone who stands against racism and bigotry. Still, it is grotesque to use the real but mercifully small threat posed by the far right to deflect attention away from Islamist extremism. Not least because Islamist extremism accounts for the vast, vast majority of the terror threat that we face. Since 2005, 95 people have been killed in Britain in Islamist terror attacks. During that same period, the far right have killed three people.

Islamist extremism also accounts for three quarters of MI5's terrorism caseload. But you wouldn't get that impression from the mainstream media. So well done, Tom Slater, for a truly balanced and factual report. that impression from the mainstream media. die a long, slow, and propaganda-filled death. even leaving the kiddie pool. Whatever groceries your summer calls for, Instacart has you covered. Download the Instacart app and enjoy $0 delivery fees on your first three orders. Service fees, exclusions, and terms apply. Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. Now let me bring in today's superstar panel. star panel and i'm delighted to be joined once again by the rising star of reform uk myron central nathan and making her outspoken debut the brilliant molly kingsley a lawyer parent campaigner and the force behind the incredible us for them a pressure group which bravely pushed back against the

devastating impact of COVID lockdowns on children. Great to have you both here. So, Myron, what do you make of this bombshell court case today? I think what it's showing is, let's go back to what you were your digest, what you were talking about, your monologue, because unless we define the term far-right, this whole conversation, this whole discussion about the rights becomes meaningless. I mean Lee Anderson got up in the House of Commons and asked Angela Rayne a very simple question, can you give me a definition of Islamophobia? And she gave a complete non-answer yet Islamophobia is going to be passed into legislation somehow people are going to get accused of

crimes may even get sentences and it's same thing is happening with the with the term far-right we don't know what this term means when you have mass immigration when you have illegal immigration when you have a society changing as fast as it is changing now, and people have concerns about that, at what point do they start becoming far-right? If the government is going to use terms like this, if the media are going to say things like far-right activity has increased 327%, if they're going to make these claims, you have to.

It is imperative. You define clearly in legislation, by bit in precise detail what does far right mean but in terms of this court case it is a signal to say there is a blind spot i mean i think you might say it's a lot lot more than a blind spot um in the whole narrative of how these rights have been formed i think what i would class as far right is the kind of Nazi saluting swastika bearing individual, which I think makes up an absolute tiny, tiny minority of the British population. And of course, they may hijack certain legitimate protests and you may get violence spewing over. But I think there is a blind spot of the Islamist threat. And you brought up Tom Slater there, where he brought up the idea that MI5, three quarters of their caseload is Islamist threat. And you brought up Tom Slater there, where he brought up the idea that

MI5, three quarters of their caseload is Islamist terrorism. I think we've lost sight of that. We've amplified far-right terrorism extremism, and we've broadened the term to almost mean to a point of meaninglessness, and we've dwarfed the term, and we're ignoring the idea of Islamic Islamist extremism as well. And I think that's the real problem that we're seeing here. Absolutely. I completely agree with you on that, Myron. Absolutely. Without any doubt.

But Molly Kingsley, great to have you here, by the way, for the first time. Lovely to see you. Thank you, Dan. Can we just talk about this specific case with Ehsan Hussain? Because he's pled guilty. He's admitted it. He has made it clear that he doesn't actually feel that way. I mean, it's his own ethnic group that he's talking about.

So it seems very clear to me that there was a false flag operation going on to try and stoke violence, to try and anger the locals in Southport. Well, yeah. And I mean, I think the key thing here is the law has to be applied equally, you know, regardless of someone's background or the label we apply or is applied to them. Actually, if someone has stoked violence and they ought to be, you know, meted out with the same punishment, regardless of whether they are far right, nothing, far left, you know, in a way, it's not relevant to what they've done. And I think, you know, as Myron said, I'm very concerned, having spent a lot of the last three or four years, you know, being labelled far right extremist, I think it is a really, really problematic phrase. It's a label that's lost any kind of bearing to reality. And of course, the use of that label and other labels like it is intended to delegitimize and

to devalue, in some cases, legitimate concerns, I believe. Yeah, totally. Absolutely. And and the thing is Myron people are very concerned about two-tier justice right and it clearly is going on I mean we've seen so many examples of it but I guess for me this is a slightly different case because the judge today made it absolutely clear that this guy is going to go to jail. But what I'm more interested in is what were his motivations? Why was he spreading all of this racist stuff in the Southport group? Because, you know, if you look at, for example, the Black Lives Matter riots across the US in 2020, and then the sort of counter protests that followed, Antifa would very often go

undercover within those counter protests to try and stoke violence and make it look as if it was the quote unquote far right that was responsible for it. And I believe there is Antifa operating in this country doing a similar thing. Yeah. So what extremists do, whether you're far right, and I mean that in a true sense of the term, or you're an Islamist extremist is you try and create a grievance narrative. And then for a grievance narrative, you create a victimhood and for victimhood, you create rage and a sense of strength in your identity and your tribalism. And then that spills over into actual violence

and extremism. And I think what Antifa are good at, and I think what the Islamist and what this case shows is an attempt to create a grievance narrative. So if you can stoke violence, incite people, get them angered, get them rageful, then what happens is your own group that is in his, in this case, I'm guessing the kind of Islamist Muslim gang that hit that in Birmingham, you mobilize them, you strengthen their identity, you give them a grievance, you give them a narrative, a sense of victimhood, and that Islamist us versus them believer versus unbeliever starts to become more defined, and it strengthens your position. And that's how extremism works generally

across the spectrum but I think we're seeing this case play out in this particular court case. Of course we are, of course we are. And Molly what do you think overall about the unrest in the country at the moment? Oh I mean where to start it's's just very depressing, isn't it? Because it speaks to a country in what feels to be almost terminal decline. And, you know, as a parent, that is really depressing. And actually, for the for the first time. So we were in Australia for a few weeks over summer, which was fantastic with the kids. And for the first time in my life, we looked at this other place and thought, is it time to move our family there? You know, what is in the UK for our children growing up? And so many people are thinking about that.

I mean, we're going to be talking later in the show, actually, about Charlie Mullins, who has done just that. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I think, you know, when you come back and in fact, it was as the riots, I think, broke out the day that we flew back into the country. And I remember seeing the paper for the first time in four or five weeks and just thinking, this is just so depressing. And actually, the element of it that I find particularly depressing, because you know, I feel very similarly to you about mainstream media, very let down on both a kind of personal, professional level, and the need to keep stoking this unrest which I think mainstream media are really guilty of they're very guilty of you know fermenting this never-ending tribalism and actually most people

just want to get on with their lives they want quiet lives they want to go to work they want to make ends meet and they want to raise their kids in a peaceful happy country and I don't think that's where we are as a country now. And it is really, really saddening to see. Yeah, they want to be safe. It is interesting, Molly, actually, because I have to be honest, the past few weeks, I've had a very similar feeling to some of the despair I felt in 2020 and 2021 during the COVID pandemic, when I just felt like so far removed

from what I was hearing in the mainstream media. And while I do believe the majority are with me, the silence majority are with me, it can be a very isolating experience, can't it, when the entire political establishment is against you, the entire mainstream media is against you, the Uniparty, Labour and the Conservatives against you the uni party labor and the conservatives against you it it's easy to be despondent i guess it really is i mean and i've got you know having gone from

a point of writing you know weekly twice weekly for mainstream media in this height of the pandemic then obviously the whole censorship experience i've gone to the point now where I almost can't bear to pick up a newspaper because I look at it and I think it's either this, you know, tribal inflammatory rhetoric or it's lies, outright lies and propaganda, or it's just a failure to report the really key stories. And yet we complain and media complains about the mess the country is in well if we can't start having honest conversations and asking even asking the right questions what hope do we have to fix any of this and you're so right so much of the media bias and myron i'm interested for your view on this but so much of it comes by omission, by story selection. So, for example, you would see the British Basking Corporation, WOKI TV, Channel 4 News, Sly News, lined up outside the courtrooms when the likes of poor Julie Sweeney and Lucy Connolly,

white working class women who made an artful social media post were being sent down for 18 months but when it comes to this man today no tv cameras not one iota of coverage anywhere on the broadcast media so very often it's about what stories they try to amplify? Yeah, no, absolutely. If you look at lockdown, lockdown is the classic case. It's the case study that we should all be looking at. It should be taught in schools and universities how this all played out. We had a BBC simply plummeting over and over again, daily, daily, daily figures of dying with COVID or of COVID, who who cares it's just a number scaring people into submission nudging people into fear there was only one narrative lockdown or lockdown harder and for longer there was no impact assessment no cost benefit analysis and that was

our state broadcaster our impartial news reporting that was going on. Yet lockdown was probably one of the biggest, most catastrophic policies of government in modern times. If we look at something like net zero, do we ever talk about the real cost and the real implications of net zero? It's never talked about on the BBC. So it's exactly what you're saying, omission. It's not just about reporting, it's omission. There are huge gaping

black holes not the 22 billion pound black hole but the other black holes in in media in reality that are simply not being noted by our bbc the bbc that we should be trusting with our news and so that's why people are up in arms it's very interesting actually that you mentioned those subjects uh myron because i was speaking to very very senior figure, shall we say, in your party, Reform UK, just yesterday, actually, who said to me, there at the moment, but when it comes to not zero, it's something that is still this broad establishment consensus, but not with the people because we don't want to be bankrupt by it. And actually, breaking right now, I want to show you this bombshell new poll from More In Common, which actually, this is what gives me faith, guys. This is what gives me faith guys this is what gives me faith in the british public because the establishment the mainstream media might be evil but the people are good so this is the first voting intention since the general election it was published in today's politico

playbook but this is according to luke trill who's behind the polling labor down six percent but look at the slump since the election, 29%. That puts the Conservatives just four points behind on 25%, but look at the surge from Reform UK. Now, clearly, the big opposition force with 18%, the Lib Dems 14%, Green 8%, and the SNP on 3%. And as Zia Yousaf, the chairman of Reform UK, posted on X, Reform is winning support from Labour at great speed. This is just two months post an election they won. Imagine what a few years will do.

No wonder Starmer is petrified. But but myron it's not just labor who should be petrified is it the conservatives stalling really and the big beneficiary from this complete lack of faith in labor as a result of so many terrible decisions but i think you'd particularly say the early release of the prisoners in order to lock up social media criminals and also the removal of the winter fuel allowance for pensioners has just created so much disharmony in such early days for Slippery Starmer. Yes, Starmer has effectively broken his contract with the British people. He started off with the riots. As soon as you label anybody concerned about immigration as far-right, he's basically broken his contract with the working class people,

with the Red Wall. As soon as you start taking away winter fuel payments to vulnerable pensioners, you break your contract with the elderly. And at the same time, we have prisoners being released early. And, you know, not we have police not really prosecuting anyone who commits petty crime. So again, you start to realise as a citizen, am I the mug for actually abiding by the law? And so this is what's happening. The grumblings are happening that what on earth am I doing here? We're going to talk, we will talk later later perhaps about the exodus of millionaires.

We also have to talk about people who, where it pays us beyond welfare rather than actually get a job. And so you start to realise the whole shift and dynamic of how society and the state should work is slowly, slowly breaking apart. And so that's what I mean by the social contract is becoming more and more redundant. At the same time, Keir Starmer has formed alliances with the unions, trying to form alliances with the unions, I'd say. And he's also chosen the Muslim vote when he when he when he chooses to stop arms to Israel. And so you start to see that he's forming alliances here and he's breaking contracts there. And it's proving to be deeply, deeply unpopular with the electorate and he's also lying by the way because the fake 22 billion pound black hole which doesn't exist the lie that it was liz trust who crashed the economy when we all know it was

shutting down the economy for two years and printing money and operating a furlough scheme for a virus that actually wasn't going to kill the vast majority of the country that's what crashed the economy molly where do you stand on the state of politics at the moment is there something about reform uk that excites you can you get behind farage i think it's a very interesting time and I think you know I mean I think Myron was exactly right when he said we've just lived through a period well it will be part of the history books but it's notable for containing the worst policy decisions I think of modern times and also the most expensive and I think that leads to real problems for both of the mainstream parties. Obviously, you had, you know, the Conservatives broke the country, I think, during the pandemic.

But Labour cheered and applauded and lauded that on. So we had this honeymoon period. Harder, longer, remember, Molly? They wanted that. Yeah, harder, longer, faster, more, more, more. And they'll do exactly the same again. And I think there are I think the degree of public anger about that period has been radically underestimated by mainstream discourse. I think there are many people for whom, you know, they will quite simply never get over that period. They saw the way their government could act, behave, treat them,

take their rights away, and they don't forget. And I think there is an extent to which Farage and Richard Tice and reform have really benefited from that. I guess what I would say, and it's nothing I've not said certainly to Richard Tice, who has been a very close friend of the campaign and a real supporter of us for them. I personally feel there was a moment when they could have benefited more, actually. I think there are things that happened during lockdown and the pandemic that could have been made into more mainstream political issues. To be fair, I know that Farage has spoken a lot about some of those issues. So certainly things like, you know, leaving the WHO and the kind of corruption around that. I know he's been very, very strong on.

And if I was reform, I would be not relenting on that. Because obviously, whilst, you know, immigration is a huge issue for a very significant number of voters, I think there are other issues which would bring across the people that maybe we're seeing now move. So the disillusioned Labour voters, the disillusioned centrists, the disillusioned families and parents, actually, you know, how do you get those on board? And I think there's a really exciting time for reform

if they are willing to broaden their perspective a little bit to capture those people. Well, it was interesting. I was speaking to a conservative politician this morning who lost their seat at the most recent election. And I found this fascinating, Molly. They said coming up on the doorstep was the World Economic Forum. So all of this discussion that actually that's some sort of fringe issue and it's just a far-right conspiracy theory is wrong. People see what's going on as a result of the pandemic. They see what's happened with these globalist authoritarian organizations. And I will just say, I hear what you mean because you could argue that reform uk maybe

put more focus on the boats and immigration over that time but all over the pandemic i was in close touch with barrage and he was always on the right side of history when it came to the pandemic and there were not many politicians in this country that I could say that about. So certainly when it came to mandates and lockdowns, you know, you can say he might not have been as loud as he was about stopping the boats, but he certainly was on the right side of history with it. I absolutely agree with you. And, you know, they were fantastic and they were very supportive of you know us for them from the very first minute actually of almost their campaign and and have been since and they've certainly been head and shoulders above any of the other parties in that respect um and i think you know i think when we're looking at a labor slump now it's no surprise is it because it's it's as you said you know the unipart uniparty is it no views phrase but it's no surprise, is it? Because it's, as you said, you know, the uniparty,

as in no views phrase, but it's just more of the same. And it's more of the same inability to talk to voters, you know, like human beings and candidly and honestly about the very deep rooted nature the country faces. Indeed. And of course, all three of us, sorry, Myron, you come in. Yeah, I was just going to add that I think Reform UK with just five MPs in the house of commons has been more of an opposition than the conservative party. You have Nigel Farage talking about two tier policing, of course, illegal immigration as well.

And the large numbers coming in, you have Richard Tice being absolutely blistering. I mean, asking so many questions about net zero and so on and steel making and really holding the government to account. You have Lee Anderson, as I said before, asking about Islamophobia, even Rupert Lowe. He's really he's offered to take his whole MP salary and donate it to charity in his constituency. That's a phenomenal thing. That's what Reform UK is doing just with four or five MPs in the House of Commons. Imagine what else could be happening.

I mean, out of the around 100 constituencies, Reform UK came second. And so we are hot on the heels of the Labour Party. And even Tony Blair, as soon as Keir Starmer got into power, he wrote a piece saying, beware of reform. Don't don't don't neglect that vote. Oh, indeed. He's quite nervous about it. Indeed. They know Reform UK is a danger. beware of reform don't don't don't neglect that vote is what he was telling kirsten oh indeed he's quite nervous about indeed they know reform uk is a danger what i find chilling and dystopian is that rather than saying okay let's have a national conversation about immigration starmer has gone down an authoritarian path and is effectively saying if you even want to have

the debate about massive immigration or the invasion of our southern border via the channel or why on earth those south port stabbings could take place then you are far right and you should be silenced and there's loads of different ways they are planning to do this and yesterday i exposed on the show the fact that this new monetization committee is Starmer's attempt to remove Nigel Farage from his broadcast platform. Effectively come up with new rules about second jobs. That will mean he is booted. He is sacked from GB News. Well, last night on GB News, Nigel Farage responded in the strongest of terms.

And today, Lucy Powell, who is leader of the House, has set up a new committee, a new modernisation committee. When you hear that word, you should always have a slight shiver down the spine. And she herself, unusually, is going to chair this committee. It has 14 members, nine of them are Labour. And I'll tell you what they're really going for. They're talking about second jobs, but in particular what they're talking about is broadcasting. And it says the committee will consider

what advantages, if any, outside paid engagement, such as media appearances, journalism and speeches, furnished to the public, versus potential conflicts of interest. Well, folks, I want to tell you this. I don't see any conflict of interest between being an MP and coming here three evenings a week for an hour. And by the way, if there are crucial votes, I just won't be here.

I don't see any conflicts of interest whatsoever. In fact, I might make an argument that's slightly different, that I'm here with a panel of people. Some agree with me. Some disagree with me. We have open debate. I'd like to think that through programmes like this, what we actually do is take what's really happening in politics and bring it to a bigger audience.

So I think it's complementary. So all I can say to Lucy Powell is this really affects Lee Anderson and myself. And if you're coming after us and think you can bully us, you've picked on the wrong people. I'm not going anywhere. If you want to martyr me,

please have a go. There he goes. Now, look, I think we probably know what myron thinks about this one so molly kingsley what do you reckon should nigel farage be allowed to continue to broadcast on gb news earning a seven-figure salary for doing so even though he's a serving mp working for the people of clackton honestly as long as the same rule applies to all MPs I don't have an issue with it I mean I guess the thing I would say is personally I think MPs should be paid more I think the dearth of good good quality politicians is one of the reasons we are in such a mess as a country the

thing though that I am far far more concerned about in that he didn't actually talk about it in that clip I think he talked about it just before was the the the aspect of the news story related to um Labour going after him as a broadcaster which is a fact that reform MPs can't sit on select committees so despite getting more votes than the Lib Dems they have been banned from either chairing or having MPs on select committees I find that so sinister and invidious because actually if you look and you know I have read far far too many select committee transcripts over the last few years and the thing that strikes me is that one of the failings real failings of our democracy and the kind of checks and balances that obviously all went out of the window during the pandemic and, you know, disastrously so for us. But one of the

real failings was the fact these select committees did not do their job. They became, you know, an organ of the uni party. The MPs lacked backbone, they lacked teeth, and they didn't have the kind of powers that we're now seeing some of the select committees in America have. And I think, you know, Farage and the other reform MPs could have given a much needed dose of backbone and steel to those select committees. And, you know, I'm just, I'm appalled, actually, that they're not allowed on them. And breaking right now, Charlie Mullins, who is known as Britain's richest plumber, he's a very, very, very rich multimillionaire,

the guy behind Pimlico Plumbers, sold it recently in order to launch a new business. Well, he has put his money where his mouth is. After threatening to leave the country if Labour got into power, he has done just that. He follows in the footsteps of Father Calvin Robinson, a regular on this show, who has also quit to move to the US. And there are other billionaires and millionaires doing the same thing as well.

So Charlie Mullins appeared on GB News today to justify his decision and mourning. This clip does contain small doses of Tom Hardwood, so I apologise in advance for that. Tom, you're quitting Britain. Is this not a bit unpatriotic of you? Well, you can call it what you want, but I'm moving abroad to protect my assets for my family. I mean, you know, they're going to increase inheritance tax, going to increase capital

gains. You know, it's just destroying Britain. It's just not practical no more to be here and, you know, I've paid, let's say, over 100 mil into the system and I'm afraid to say that, you know, Starmer is just driving away investors, entrepreneurs, even

just normal people that are on 100k or 150k, they also want to leave. It's the wrong way to go about it, and unfortunately they're very anti-business. Maybe we was better off with the Conservatives then, if I'm being honest, because at least they didn't have all this increase in taxes and the workers' rights. I'm pretty sad to be leaving, if I'm being honest.

I mean, it's quite a big decision, but I'm pretty sad to be leaving, if I'm being honest. I mean, it's quite a big decision. But, you know, I'm no longer prepared to keep putting into the system and let them waste it. And Nadine Dorries, the former Tory cabinet minister, posted on X, lost count of the number of people I know who are going to live in the UAE. And Charlie actually went on to give a couple of examples of that. And I think we'll be in recession very soon.

And, you know, I was speaking to different billionaires and millionaires over the last week, and they're already gone. There's Alfie Best gone to Monaco. There's other people that are leaving Dubai, Italy, anywhere but the UK, because they just don't know how to look after people that are contributing to the economy. And I think we'll be in recession very soon. And, you know, I was speaking to... Gosh, Myron, this is a worry.

This is a huge worry because Labour might hate a real success story like Charlie Mullen's, but I think he's amazing. He's just the sort of person that we desperately need he's a wealth creator no absolutely I think we need to come to the realization that the state has no money and so the state needs money from the private sector it's a it's an obvious point but everyone seems to forget this point around 10 percent of the richest people in this country pay 60% of income tax. We have the top 1% of this country pay around 30% of income tax. And that is how this country works.

If we have a mass exodus of millionaires, whatever billionaires, 9,000 millionaires leaving this year, you are going to have a dysfunctional economy. And today we had news of mass immigration and how most, perhaps a significant amount of this mass immigration is low skill, low wage, which is over the lifetime of around I don't know, 70, 60 years or so pensionable age. It's a net drain of £150,000 on the economy. Per migrant, right? Per migrant. We could end up toppling over which is not per migrant which is just an astonishing figure and actually before i get you to come in molly i want

to show you the moment when charlie spoke about the fact that he feels very betrayed that so much of his tax money is now going to illegal migrants. They're using the black hole thing as if it's never been there, but they say that £9 billion of that is down to pay rises and costs of the civil service. The fact that what they're doing to the pensions, I think that's the final straw. I mean, you know, how disrespectful is that? They've paid into the system all their life,

and they're, I mean, it's just like the new Robin Hood style, isn't it? It's robbing everybody to feed the migrants and the illegals. It is. ...action to the brain drain. The white chocolate macadamia cream cold brew from Starbucks is made just the way you like it. Handcrafted cold foam topped with toasted cookie crumble. It's a sweet summer twist on iced coffee.

Your cold brew is ready at Starbucks. Oh, sorry, it just cut out there. What's your reaction to the brain drain? Because I know earlier you said you're actually considering joining it. Well, yeah, I mean, it just, you know, so the fact that millionaires and billionaires are leaving is obviously concerning. I don't dispute that at all.

We need those people to pay tax. But for me, I think the, you know, as concerning is the people in the middle. And I think Charlie mentioned, you know, the ordinary people, you can judge whether someone earning 100 or 150 grand is an ordinary person, but you know, the kind of band of aspirational middle classes. And of course, we have,

and we're directly affected by this, the tax on the private school fees. And for me, that just speaks to this like punishment of anyone who wants to strive for them and their families to do well in this country. And I think when you couple it with what we've got, we've got the inheritance tax, we've got the tax on school fees, we've got proposed increases to capital gains tax, which are a huge, huge deal cumulatively. And in fact, you know, as someone so I would be affected by the tax on the private school fees as an ex entrepreneur, I would have been affected by the capital gains tax. It's really, really difficult to set up your own business. You know, you give up a salary, you put your own money in, and you work. I mean, in my case, it would be for at least half a decade for no money. The only thing you have going is the prospect of some kind of return at the end. And I can tell you now,

if you bring that tax in, it will just kill entrepreneurship in this country. And a lot of my friends, so before us for them, before campaigning, I had a startup tech business for half decade, more about eight years in the end, and had a very big network of friends in that industry. And I would say half of them have now gone to mainly other European countries, but notably other countries that are very receptive to young and ambitious entrepreneurs. And we just don't have that anymore in this country. And it's really, really sad to see that, you know, the difference disparity in the again, like declining tax scene here compared to overseas yeah iron what do you make of the fact sorry you come on mine yeah sorry let's not forget labor ran their campaign on growth yeah and it's astounding that they they did that and where on earth is the growth going to come from i mean we've got oil refineries closing down, we've got net

zero pumping, wasting taxpayers money, we've got an exodus of millionaires, where on earth is growth? It's capital gains tax is a tax that you have you have already paid tax on your income. And for the for you are not being rewarded for taking a risk and retrieving your profit, you're going to be penalized and how is growth going to happen it's simply not going to happen and this is this is the problem with socialism and the authoritarian government of starmer indeed myron i wanted to ask you about patriotism though reform uk is obviously a very patriotic party a lot of these people leaving are real patriots but calvin robinson for example father calvin Calvin Robinson he's regularly on

this show he has faced a lot of pushback from folk who say oh you're quitting the battle you're leaving when we need you most what's your view on that sort of response to the people who are getting out I would like to see I think Calvin Robinson um he's a is an important voice I would like to see, I think, Calvin Robinson, he's an important voice. I would like to see him still in the country fighting the good fight politically, democratically, on his media channels, through social media, whatever it is. I am actually, believe it or not, Dan, I'm a little bit optimistic. I think this is I see this Labour government as a vaccination, right? It's a vaccine. Every so often a country needs a vaccination against socialist authoritarian identity politics. And this is our vaccination. I think after this government, the public will

understand the perils of net zero. They will understand the perils of mass immigration, high taxation, low growth, authoritarian governance. They will understand the perils of mass immigration, high taxation, low growth, authoritarian governance. They will understand these things and they will vote against them vehemently. And I think it's important that where there are voices like yourself, like Calvin Robinson and others, Reform UK, Nigel Farage, that we're ready and waiting in the next four years, let's say, to take power. Because I think even Charlie Mullins said he'll be back when Nigel Farage is president. I imagine that's going to be in the next four to five years. President or prime minister, because I think we need our monarchy.

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that would turn the UK into some sort of utopia. Well, Katie Hopkins ain't having any of that. Well, Vauder Norks, I wonder if you could answer a question for us. Now, I know you take responsibility for the Labour victory and also you're really, really good at maths. So can you explain to us why old ceramic bobhead Rachel Reeves has stolen 300 quid from the very poorest pensioners who will die this winter in order to give 11 billion quid to despot dictators and tyrants that run countries in Africa where it's hot. Now, I admire you on so many levels. I love your norks of porn. I love your tiny little waist. I love what the surgeons have done to your face. I love that you said what you thought on the BBC

and got fired. And I love that you've gone after me, Shambone. But I also know what it's like at LBC. You're having to rim James O'Brien on a daily basis. You're having to lick the fat out of the folds of fatty fogarty. It's a lot. So just one question. Please help us make the maths make sense. Cheers, Carol. Well, this is how Carol's dealing with it. It's almost like she's in a period of mourning. She can't quite admit that her advice to vote Labour was the biggest mistake she's ever made. Watch her on Sly News. Genuinely, I don't understand why they've done it. I do understand why you wouldn't pay the wealthy pensioners. But to go from, you know, I be a one of those in two years time so I

wouldn't need the winter fuel allowance payment but to go from 12 million to less than 2 million pensioners receiving it is just way too low and I'm shocked by it because they could raise that money in so many other ways, including, for instance, private equity managers. All of this is kind of in the book, really. So, for instance, a few years ago, in one tax year, 255 private equity managers earned, very much in inverted commas, £2.7 billion between them. And they didn't pay 45% tax, as every employee who's earning a decent amount of money would pay. They have a special arrangement with HMRC at 28%.

Now, that could instantly generate another £600 million or £700 million. So what do you think Keir Starmer should do now? We've seen... I think he should apologise. You think he should apologise to the pensioners? I absolutely do. Genuinely, I don't understand why they... What good will an apology do? What good will an apology do, Myron?

Yeah, what's astounding is when you see Carol Vorderman admit, and actually think, fair enough, I'm no fan of Carol Vorderman, I probably would disagree with just about everything she says, but she is speaking honestly and I'll give her credit for that. But what's astounding is how Keir Starmer and the Labour Party have expended so much political capital for the sake of £1.5 billion. I don't understand the political strategy here. They have literally fallen out with pensioners. They have been seen as the nasty party.

Constituents have had hundreds of emails each. And this is going to roll on and on and on and could affect them even in the next general election. Why do it when you're spending £10 billion or thereabouts on public sector pay or £11.5 billion on foreign aid? Why do it? There were so many other areas to take a haircut. Why did you do it on the pensions? It makes no sense to me. I don't understand it. No, I do agree with that actually but molly kingsley isn't there something to be said for actually sometimes not idolizing a political party this is the issue

with the left isn't it they thought that slippery star who's actually a technocrat and an authoritarian was going to come in and turn the country around overnight. In fact, he is making decisions that are cruel because they don't support a particular Labour voting group. So pensioners, for example, tend to vote Conservative. Now, if Boris Johnson or Rishi Sunak had dared to remove the winter fuel allowance for pensioners. Borderman would have been on the streets. And I think it's so important.

If you're ever going to trust a commentator, they have to be able to turn against their political heroes. Now, look at me during lockdown. Yes, I had supported Boris Johnson before that. But the moment he started making those decisions, which were completely damaging damaging to the country I turned because I have to be honest and I feel like what we have now is client journalism from the likes of James O'Brien and Carol Vorderman who will find any excuse to justify what I've done because sure she says oh well he should apologize but that's not enough it's interesting interesting, isn't it?

Because it doesn't make for the most interesting reading either when you have people like Carol Vorderman, you know, and actually I do agree with Myron. Like, you know, it was refreshing seeing her say, well, actually I don't agree with this and I got it wrong. You know, I didn't expect that because actually we do often see either very high profile individuals or I think more damagingly still media just take a certain position, support a certain party, almost whatever they do. And it makes for boring and quite inauthentic reporting and reading of that reporting, I think, quite often.

And I mean, I think the thing I'd say about this winter fuel tax. Yeah, I mean, it's surprising, it seems very unnecessary. And surely there would have been much more creative ways to raise more money. I mean, Carol mentioned one, but you could also imagine, you know, windfall taxes on tech companies, or on the pharma companies, or, you know, any number of things that surely would have been less politically sensitive with the voter base, maybe not with corporations, but with the voter base, and it should be the voter base that governments are acting on behalf, not corporations, and actually would have reaped him more money.

So none of it really makes that much sense to me. No. And the thing is, I think this has smashed the moral authority of this government in its early days because there were new Labour MPs who were pictured literally holding signs up saying we will not get rid of pensioner fuel allowances and they voted for this policy. So there was a brilliant moment on radio that has been captured on social media and this is when a pensioner directly challenged the new labor mp or luffra jivan sandhurst it's really awkward listening but put it this way i'm team pensioner watch this i'm really proud the achievements the last labor government i'm really excited and proud of the achievements this Labour government will have.

Right. OK, we've heard that. Now, did you vote yesterday? Yes, I did, Margaret. And what did you vote for? I voted to means test the winter fuel allowance. So you voted for it to stay? Is that what you're saying? Or you voted for it to leave? I voted to means test the winter fuel allowance.

But you want to look after the older people, of course, because you've just stated that. You want to look after people in this country. Yes, Margaret. But you're not doing that, are you? You're not doing that. So, Margaret, I vote yes to... You know, this is what makes me very cross, and it does make me very cross. Every one of you that's an MP can claim expenses. You can claim your heating.

All right, we can all do the same. We can all cut our heating back. We can cut our electricity back. We can cut our heat, anything we want to back. You think about it. Electricity is going up 10%, and I think gas is going up between 13% and 14%. Not counting everything else, but after all, I must remember, up 10% and I think gas is going up between 13 and 14% not counting everything else but after all I must remember you want to look after the

people of this country so why are we giving so much money away why are we spending millions every week for the hotels why are we sending money over to China why are we sending money over to India India we have all this but you still want to look after the people of this country. Well, somehow I don't think that's true. And as for Keir Starmer, he lied on his manifesto. And so to me, that's deceitful. So he was deceitful there, so he's going to be deceitful in government.

Sorry, I think that's the moment of the week for me, Myron. Margaret was brilliant, wasn't she? Absolutely brilliant. Stating facts. Yeah, she was brilliant. Stating facts. Realizes every injustice against the British people even if you can find a rational legitimate argument is going to be pitted against the money spent on illegal migration in particular 5,000 beds being paid for just in case more migrants come they're just empty at the moment But they're being paid for right when pensioners see that what do you think is going to happen? What emotions are going to be stirred? That sense of rage, that sense of injustice.

It's just going to escalate and escalate and escalate. And this is the reason why migration does need to be dealt with as quickly as possible and as definitively as possible. At least the rhetoric needs to start changing, if nothing else. Because at the moment, as you said earlier in the program, we just can't talk about it. And when pensioners are going to be freezing to death and impact assessment from what, 2017? Because we don't have one now. It could be about 4000 pensioners dying. I mean, imagine the headlines coming up in December, January. It's going to be horrendous.

Look, I don't think you're a one trick pony at all. Immigration is now the number one issue for voters in this country. That is a fact. Its importance is only going to increase. And how disturbing that the entire political class, the elite class and the mainstream media have just accepted Starmer's argument that we're not going to talk about it well that position will not hold it will not hold because as you say myron it impacts everything housing education the failure of the nhs all of it in the end comes back to mass migration that we have allowed to i believe change the fabric of this country uh but molly wasn't it great wasn't margaret amazing she was brilliant and actually she you know i think i'm a one trick pony on a different trick which is lying politicians and she brought that up and you know i really do nothing angers me more they lied for the whole campaign molly and and the media just let them get away with it this is labor i'm talking about the whole campaign why don't we have criminal penalties i know people when i say things like this people

look at me like i'm the dangerous radical but what happened during the pandemic and actually even before that you know the lies in manifestos the untruths and some of them we know on the spot are lies they politicians should not be able to get away with that we shouldn't tolerate it and whatever the consequence is there should be a consequence of that you know we have the nolan principles don't we like what an absolute joke openness transparency i mean they're almost there to like state the opposite of the way politicians act and it's just disastrous so yeah well done margaret for calling it out totally because because my view is that if Labour had won, sorry, let me say that again. My view is that if Labour had been honest about its true policy prescription before the general election, they still would have won.

Don't get me wrong. People were completely betrayed by the Conservative government, which proved not to be conservative. But I think their majority would have been seriously reduced if people knew their true intentions, and that would have led to actually much more democracy. Because one of the problems and one of the reasons that Starmer acts like such an authoritarian is because he just believes he's untouchable he can literally take the whip away from so many mps on the left of his party because he thinks he is invincible because of the ridiculous majority he has but look this was of course the week that starmer decided to unleash 1 750 violent criminals on our street many more coming in order to lock people up who posted an upley on facebook or x so andrew lawrence

the comedian of the moment has summed up the madness of the situation brilliantly. Hello, I'm Sergeant Constable Detective Officer Peter Pispop from Twat Valley Police. As-salamu alaykum. Now, many of you will be aware of government plans to release thousands of criminals from prison early in the coming weeks. Indeed, this has already begun. Up and down the country this week, there were heartwarming scenes of violent thugs and thieving tow rags celebrating jubilantly outside prison gates, hardly able to believe their luck. Obviously some of you will have concerns about this process, some of you will fear for your personal safety and you're absolutely right to do so. As we move into the autumn we're likely to see a

massive crime spree all across the UK with a considerably heightened risk of you getting either battered or robbed as you go about your everyday lives. Inevitably there will be a period of significant disorder. I'd like to reassure people that police forces around the country are on top of the situation. Unfortunately, I can't, as the truth is we're underfunded, under-resourced and absolutely overrun with poorly trained diversity hires who aren't fit for the job. I myself will be spending the next few months either hiding under my desk or in a cupboard or shuffling papers, and if required to take a more hands-on role in dealing with the inevitable chaos of several thousand criminals on the streets,

I will be going on long-term sick leave. What I would say is, keep your wits about you. Perhaps take some self-defence classes. Hide all your valuables. Don't get your phone out in public. And remember, you're very much on your own in all of this. If you do find yourself a victim of crime please do report it to your nearest police station and they'll do their very

best to pretend to care stay safe out there if you can good luck assalamu alaikum namaste kumbaya molly most of what he says is completely true. Well, I mean, you know, you've got to laugh, haven't you? But like it hides a serious point, which is that actually, you know, as we talked about at the beginning, like this country is not in a good place. And, you know, maybe we do need a dose of humour to get through it. No, we do. But we're not safe, are we, Myron? And actually, fundamentally, I think that's the real worry, that people in our big cities no longer feel safe, no longer feel like the police are there to look after us,

and that's a really sad place to be in as a society. It is. We're supposed to be a first-world country. The key point that I think he made in that sketch is he said, you're on your own. And I think that resonates with the British people. I think, you know, fair play to the hardworking police officers, but nonetheless, when I had a burglary a few, about a month or so ago, I phoned the police, 48 hours.

I think it took them more than 48 hours to even show up. And I knew, and they knew, they would never find the perpetrators. And that's how it feels. I'm on my own i have to just fend for myself and lock up my belongings as best as i can because i can't actually rely on the police that's how it feels i think many of the british people feel the same indeed the breakdown of society i think is when you realize you can call 999 the ambulance ain't coming and obviously that's both practical and metaphorical at the moment we

are on our own and that's why i think a political revolution needs to happen but well uh what a deep chat for a friday evening myron sent to nathan and molly kingsley my brilliant superstar panel thank you both so much please do come back very soon uh today i want to give a big shout out to michael cass now michael is the driving force behind the dan wootton outspoken community on x it's his birthday today uh which is why i wanted to talk about him but he also runs our brilliant online exclusive greatest britain and union jackass most days and i thought given it's michael's birthday this is the perfect opportunity for me to suggest that you join our little community on x it's not so little anymore

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