Dan Wootton Outspoken - TWO TIER UK AS BBC'S SHAMED HUW EDWARDS & SUELLA BRAVERMAN "COCONUT" ACCUSED AVOID JAIL

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

Two Tier UK on speed. Today the British Bashing Corporation was forced to announce the moment its biggest star Huw Edwards – just like Jimmy Savile, another paedophile – had avoided jail. So too has Marieha Hussein, despite throwing vile racist insults at Suella Braverman and Rishi Sunak. In his Digest, Dan will point out the insane lack of justice of these two walking free, while white working class folk were locked up for Facebook or X posts in the wake of the Southport Massacre. Then his Superstar Panel – Charlie Downes and David Campbell Bannerman – weigh in. PLUS: Crazy Carol Vorderman cancels Jordan Peterson, but it doesn’t go well for her AND: The Heritage Foundation’s Nile Gardiner on the despicable leftist reaction to the second Trump assassination attempt To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show for 30-minutes extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It won't take long to tell you Neutral's ingredients. Vodka, soda, natural flavors. So, what should we talk about? No sugar added? Neutral. Refreshingly simple. No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This is this is outspoken live episode number 52 today the british bashing corporation was forced to announce the moment its biggest star hugh edwards just like jimmy saville another pedophile had avoided jail despite being convicted of the center paul i'm

paul i'm so sorry i need to interrupt you and go back to Seema Kotecha, who's outside the magistrate's court. Seema? Sorry. Yes, that's right. We've just heard the sentence. Hugh Edwards has been given a six-month jail suspended suspended for two years with a requirement to complete a sex offender program plus 25 sessions so he's been given a suspended sentence for two years what that means is he won't go to prison but if he re-offends during that time he will go to jail so let me i mean disgraceful a disgraceful sentence but shut down that corrupt organisation now. Also avoiding jail, Marihar Hussain, despite throwing vile racist insults at Suella Braverman and Rishi Sunak. In my digest next, I will point out the insane lack of justice in two-tier UK of those two walking free while white working class folk

were locked up for Facebook or X posts in the wake of the Southport massacre. Then my superstar panel Charlie Downs and David Campbell Bannerman weigh in. Also coming up today, crazy Carol Vorderman cancels Dr Jordan Peterson on LBC. If we come back to like women's aggressions in society. So Dr Jordan Peterson, there's a YouTube video. Oh, don't quote it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You cannot quote Jordan Peterson on my show. I'm sorry. I mean, it's just that they're on.

Flipping heck. No, I'm not having that, Neil. You sounded quite reasonable, but to quote somebody like him, who I find a total misogynist, and it's just ridiculous because women are very frightened at the moment. But things didn't end well. For Crazy Carol, I'll reveal how Jordan Peterson himself has responded. And the Heritage Foundation's Niall Gardner on the despicable leftist reaction to the second Trump assassination attempt.

Are you here to give your opinions? A very base level of accusation against President Trump. Are you here to give your opinions or ask your guest questions? I mean, are you a journalist who wants me to answer questions from a position of having worked in the White House? Are you here to lecture your audience? I'm asking questions,

but I'm not giving you a platform to insult others who are not here to defend themselves. Then don't invite me on your show. Can you promise me that? More examples of that madness later. Then a royal special edition of the uncancelled after show today as Meghan Markle launches a PR blitz after being derided as a, quote,

dictator in high heels by the Hollywood Reporter. You can register to watch on our website right now, www.outspoken.live. It's a safe space, free of censorship. You'll support it just £5 a month. Not only gives you 30 minutes of extra content every single weekday, it also means you'll never have to watch the British Bashing Corporation again. Let's go. How many more paedophiles will be allowed to survive and indeed thrive at the BBC before we say enough? Shut down this corrupt and jaded organisation that shames Britain.

Hugh Edwards, its star news announcer who announced the death of the late Queen, wasn't the first. This is how he'll be remembered now. But I remember that the BBC's previous biggest star, Jimmy Savile, the UK's most prolific paedophile ever, was also shielded by the corporation, this time until after his death. There was a paedophile ring operating at the BBC for decades. We know that. And when Jill Dando tried to blow the whistle on it, guess what? She was murdered.

And her killer has to this day never been convicted. So while what happened today would be a seismic moment for any other organisation. For the BBC, oh, it was just another day, as its flagship 1pm bulletin, hosted many times by Edwards himself in the past, kicked off with breaking news about themselves. Today at one, Hugh Edwards has just been given a suspended six-month prison sentence for making indecent photographs of children as young as seven. Police have released this picture of the former BBC presenter after he was charged. Westminster magistrates court heard this morning he paid hundreds of pounds to a convicted paedophile

after being sent pornographic images. His barrister said Hugh Edwards is truly sorry and knows he has betrayed people's trust and faith. Yes, after a mourning in court over the last few moments, we've just heard that 63-year-old Hugh Edwards has been given a six-month jail sentence, suspended for two years with a requirement to complete a sex offender program. We'll have more details from the court in the program. If the BBC was a private company, it would be shuttered by now. Finished, over, done with. It should be.

Can we stop kidding ourselves, please, that we should be proud of this degenerate organisation? I mean, of course the BBC has already been pumping out its own propaganda, like this from its media editor Katie Razzell today, assuring us Edwards is the criminal, not the BBC, although some suspect he is being used as a way to bash the corporation for ideological reasons. As one serious insider put it to me with a heavy dose of sarcasm, at the end of the day, it's always the BBC's fault. Are you actually serious?

Piss off! Save your bullshit today, You are despicable. And in two-tier Britain, of course Hugh Edwards was never going to go to prison for possessing images showing the most stomach-churning activities on young children. But under our truly skewed justice system, Julie Sweeney, the grandmother of three and pensioner carer for her husband, and Lucy Connolly, the housewife of a conservative councillor, are rotting behind bars as we speak for sending one Facebook and one ex-post respectfully in the wake of the Southport massacre. Please, someone make that make sense. Well, it doesn't. And that's why I want to share with you this very human reaction from Leilani Dowdine, our superstar panelist who will be here tomorrow. I don't have children, but I think they are the most important things in the world they are the most important

things so when someone has pictures of children being raped and then they don't spend a single day in jail I don't understand how that's justice and I'm really upset because like I said I think children are the most important things in the world and I'm angry and that's why I'm crying I'm so angry because it's frustration and it's like what what can we do what can we do about it when we don't have a justice system. When they'll lock people, like you go out and you protest and you get angry or you make threats against pedophiles, they'll come and lock you up. They'll come and lock you up for saying something. There are people sitting in jail because of Facebook posts right now. Like literally sitting in jail for two years three years some of the people that follow me and this fucking guy has got off and the people that sent him the person that sent him the

pictures has got off are we gonna protect the children i feel your pain and your anger and disgust, a lot of you, I'm sure millions more do across Britain. Thank you for that honesty. Meanwhile, in two-tier UK, it's now acceptable to be racist. As long as you are a non-white person racially attacking another non-white person. Follow me on this because it is the sickening conclusion after marie ha hussein from high wiccan was cleared after holding this sign at a pro-palestinian rally branding suela braverman and rishi sunak as coconuts this

is what happened according to channel four for these protesters protesters, Marihar Hussain is a symbol of free speech. The former teacher had been charged with committing a racially aggravated offence for her placard depicting Rishi Sunak and Soheila Bravaman as coconuts. But today in court, she was found not guilty. It goes without saying that this ordeal has been agonizing for my family and I. Instead of enjoying my pregnancy I've been vilified in the media, I've lost my career, I've been dragged through the court system in what can only be described as a politically motivated show trial. Now Maria I am told, had been inspired by an exchange between me and Narendra Kerr on my former GB News show, which you'll see right now. And you'll also see that I made it completely clear at the time that I was disgusted by what I viewed as out and out racism.

Narendra, I just want to put something to you. Is it true that you said that while you wouldn't use the C word, you would actually use another C word to describe Rishi Sunak? I would have said he's a bit of a coconut. Explain what that means. I get called, it's not racist. If a brown people will call me that sometimes. Explain what it means.

So what it means is you are brown on the outside, white on the inside, like a bounty. Yeah, it's like the bounty chocolate bar. I often get called that by other Indian people and I don't mind that. But you're going to call Rishi Sunak that? Oh, Rishi Sunak is a coconut. Well, I'm going to say to you immediately, Narendra, that that is hugely racist because what you are saying is being... And sadly, after the ruling, that sort of language might now become commonplace, especially with the conservative peer baroness warsey

immaturely celebrating the ruling by posting a picture of herself drinking from a coconut now the reform uk chairman zia yusuf wasn't having any of that he responded by saying so turns out being racist to sunak and braverman is not a crime district judge vanessa lloyd has effectively declared open season on ethnic minority politicians who reject far-left dogma And he added, referring to Warzy, Now, Warzy responded by saying, the smearing of Sunak and Braverman as coconuts. She is still a Tory pair. What a farce of a party. Now, Warzy responded by saying, good to see you've found your voice on the issue of racism. Not sure where you were when your Reform Party volunteers were smearing migrants, Muslims, minorities, and calling Sunak an effing P word. But Zia's response sums up where the UK is now when it comes to two-tier justice. He said, everyone at reform condemns racism.

You are on here promoting it. Now we all see what you really stand for. Your entire career howling racist was projection. Now, I take no joy in saying this, but the failure to jail Hugh Edwards or find Marie Ha Hussein guilty of racism shows our society is crumbling. It seems only the white working classes will be punished for going against the narrative. These are dangerous times. Now let me bring in today's superstar panel.

And to returning superstars today, I'm delighted to be joined by Charlie Downs. He is the content lead at the Center for Migration Control and a political strategist. And also we actually saw him there alongside me trying to deal with Norinda Kerr, so he's a longtime guest of mine back on GB News as well. David Campbell Bannerman, chairman of the Freedom Association and so much more. So Charlie Downs, a day of shame for the British Bashing Corporation, but also surely a day of shame for the uk charlie when a man like hugh edwards escapes jail and the court seems to care much more about his mental health than the fact that his activities encourage the most sickening pedophilia of young children aged between seven

and nine years old meanwhile you can be locked up for 18 months for posting a tweet yeah well if there's one thing that is abundantly clear now and this you know the whole thing of the two-tier policing has become quite mainstream and quite popular recently but it's been the case for a long time that the regime that governs britain um you know from from the conservatives to this labour one and and earlier the way that it operates, it doesn't operate on principles. The only principle that it operates on is power. It rewards its friends and it punishes its enemies. And that really at bottom is how all politics works.

It's just our system is particularly explicit in that because who else do we know who have essentially gotten away with the worst sorts of crimes, pedophilia, rape, and so on for years? Well, it's the grooming gangs up and down the country. And why is that the case? It's because, in the most perverse possible way, the power structure that governs us views that group, i.e. immigrants, as clients and as political friends and as being worthy of

protection. Whereas the white native population of Britain is viewed as an enemy, which is why you see white working class people locked up for Facebook posts, but elite, high-level, state-adjacent figures like Hugh Edwards essentially getting off scot-free. And at the same time, you see people of the lowest order um you know people from people who are not from britain who have come here and raped uh young girls um also get off scot-free and it's because those people belong to the same category which is they are friends or clients of the power structure yeah i totally agree very very terrifying isn't it david campbell bannerman but david what about

the bbc's response today how dare they on a day of shame for that organization be publishing a piece trying to say oh this is just going to be used by people like me for ideological reasons i mean if this was a company they would be closed long ago david i remember their moral outrage when i was working at the news of the world for example which was shuttered over phone hacking now how does the bbc continue to get off scot-free when clearly it has a major problem with pedophilia well you make a good point, Dan, and I think it's the way the BBC is managed or not managed, actually.

I don't know who really runs it. I think the chairman kind of floats above it, really, and his team and does other things. It's the editorial control, I think, is the big problem. They did report today, Hugh Edwards, I mean, he got uh category a charges against him which is seven counts of penetrative sex of someone who was seven to nine aged i mean that is really appalling and uh is this a light sentence it does seem to be

uh to be honest and uh this is the face of the BBC News, of course, for many years. So that's outrageous. But I would say what is really outrageous is the Rotherham sex scandal. You know, there was no reporting in this depth last week about the charges into that. And this has been ignored and overlooked. And there is some very odd decision-making going on about what we're

allowed to see and what we're not allowed to see and the depth of reporting behind it which really does need investigating i mean investigating because it is scandalous yeah and when it came to these so-called rioters and i say so-called rioters by the way because there's still a lot about these riots which is emerging like for example the asian man who we found out last week was actually posing as a white man to stoke up lots of the conflict in southport so i say so-called rights but the bbc and other mainstream media organizations Duns, was lining up to cover them being jailed for, in some cases, up to nine years. Yeah, I mean, it's not surprising because, again, the BBC is marketed as being an unbiased and neutral media outlet. But they aren't. And everyone has known that for a great many years at this point. I heard just today, actually, I was sitting listening to BBC News for my sins,

and they were covering Keir Starmer visiting Italy and speaking to Giorgio Maloney. And before they even started the story, they made sure to note that Giorgio Maloney has links to fascist organizations and in her youth was involved with neo-fascist groups and this sort of thing. And it's like, well, you know, you don't sort of note that, for example, someone like Keir Starmer was involved in essentially communist activism when he was a young man. Yeah, exactly. Or was actually advocating for Jeremy Corbyn, an extremist, to be prime minister for years. Exactly. And that is because, once again, the power structure that governs us and the bbc and and the entire media actually is part of that power structure exists to punish its friend punish

its enemies and reward its friends and kia starmer and the labour government and hugh edwards and all the rest of these people all belong to that category are part of the globalist establishment aren't they david yeah can i just say that i mean you've got people like ed milliband whose father ralph and we weren't allowed to mention the fact you know the father was a marxist professor and all of this who actually swore allegiance before carl marx in highgate cemetery and now this man ed milliband is running our environmental policy disastrously and david milliband is running the Red Cross internationally. So, I mean, I think it's relevant, the background to the decision.

Of course. And it was interesting, wasn't it, today that all of a sudden Hugh Edwards decided that his father was relevant. His dead father apparently was the reason behind his conviction. How despicable is that? How cretinous is that? And of course, we saw the mental health card played again, and the magistrate gave it a lot of stock. Now, David, there you were sitting alongside Narendra Kerr in that clip in my digest on GB News. Now, that was the first time that I had heard that term be used in that context, certainly on TV. You saw, and you probably remember, I was very shocked by it and I scolded Narendra. has been backed up by this court ruling that it's completely okay for leftists to attack other non-white ethnic minorities for being on the right of politics and i just think it's out and out

racism but the courts don't agree well i i think it is racist And you're right to call her out on the sofa. I was sitting next to her on the sofa. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's a very abusive term. And it's derogatory to white people, isn't it? Because, you know, you're white on the inside, you know, you're really a white person, which is, the N-word is used quite openly, but only amongst certain communities that are allowed to use it. And if white people use it, you know, they get into serious trouble. You know, it's a horrible word that no one should use. So there are double standards. It's sort of two-tier racism is arising here. No, it is. You know, Barris Wazi was a disgrace and she's still a Tory peer. And, frankly,

the whip should have a serious talk about that. I think that is outrageous. Well, she should be out. She should be out. But, look, there's lots of two-tier rubbish going on

when it comes to politics and especially when it comes to this new Labour government, which is immediately proving itself to be, I would argue, highly corrupt and also highly unpopular. pair who we already knew was getting special access to number 10 downing street in the wake of starmer's election is now donating tens of thousands of pounds in order to dress lady starmer here starmer's wife now it feels like she was taking the piss out of us all today because in the wake of these revelations this morning remember this is a woman who has claimed for a long time i don't want to be in the spotlight she turned up at a fashion show

for london fashion week at something called the edeline lee fashion show i mean the front of that and of course it comes hot on the heels of david lam Socialist himself, who in the past was lambasting Boris and Carrie Johnson over wallpaper and Number 10 Downing Street, but all of a sudden he is defending the need for Starmer and his wife to receive funding for their clothes, despite the fact they are incredibly wealthy individuals with a fortune of over £10 million. Watch this pathetic explanation.

I recognise that, but I also recognise that in our country wealthy individuals with a fortune of over 10 million pounds. Watch this pathetic explanation. I recognise that. But I also recognise that in our country, there isn't a budget for the Prime Minister's clothes or his wife's clothes. In some countries, there's a substantial budget. I've just come back from America where there is a substantial budget to ensure that the US President and the First Lady, their appearance can never be challenged. That is not the case in our country. Interesting, though, because let's go and listen to Starmer's own words when he was taking Boris Johnson to task in Parliament in 2021. Here, Starmer.

Answer the question. That's what the public scream at their televisions every pmqs answer the question the prime minister hasn't answered the question he knows he hasn't answered the question he never answers the question the prime minister the prime minister will be aware that he's required to declare any benefits that relate to his political activities including loans or credit arrangements within 28 days 28 days prime minister yes he will also know that any donation ynglyn â'i gweithgareddau gwleidyddol, gan gynnwys cyfrifiadau a chredid, yn 28 diwrnod. 28 diwrnod, Prif Weinidog. Ie. Bydd yn gwybod hefyd bod unrhyw ariannu'n rhaid i gael ei adroddi yn y Registr o Bwydnogion y Prif Weinidog ac, o ran y llaw, bydd unrhyw ariannu o blant o blant o blant o 500 i rhan bwydyol yn rhaid i'w adroddi a'i ddeglu.

Felly mae'r rheolau'n glir iawn. Mae'r Cymru Eleolol yn meddwl nawr fod yna ddyluniau cyfrifol i clear the Electoral Commission now think that there are reasonable grounds to suspect that an offence or offences may have occurred that's incredibly serious can the Prime Minister tell the house does he believe that any rules or laws have been broken in relation to the refurbishment of the Prime Minister's flat I mean David Cain Mahan willbanaman, you could not make this up. He is describing his own situation. Within weeks of entering number 10, the guy is a despicable hypocrite.

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David Campbell-Bannerman, can you hear me? Oh, I think we've lost him. Charlie Downs, do you want to take that on? Yeah, sure. I mean, to be honest, I'm actually kind of sick of, you know, those of us who occupy our politics accusing leftists of being hypocrites because they don't care. They don't care about, they don't have any principles. They don't care about fairness.

They don't care about holding their friends to the same standards as their enemies. We care about these things because we care about these sort of old, fusty ideas of fairness and of honour and of dignity. But these people don't. They view those things as being relics of the past that aren't worth preserving. Same goes with the accusation of racism, by the way. I mean, I think that the right in general really needs to move away from saying the left are the real racist because they don't care. They don't care. Racist is their word and they use it to describe everything. So when you use it back against them, it's not going to work.

It's not effective. So I'm really interested in that, Charlie, because I do agree with you to a certain extent. But is the solution, because I think about this a lot, is the solution just to say, actually, you be as racist as you want. That's absolutely fine. But we believe in free speech and actually daylight is the best disinfectant. So go right ahead. It's a tricky one because, you know, proper racism is obviously a terrible thing and it does happen. It happens on both the left and the right. But in terms of political strategy, basically using the language of your enemies

against your enemies is an ineffective tactic. And so I think that we on the right should escape the kind of mind prison of left wing language where everything is racist and everything is sexist and everything is that isn't the other. Even the language of communities, for example. I've actually had David use that in this interview. That's the language of the left. You shouldn't use that sort of language in the talk of values as well. British values, that's an invention of Tony Blair and his government. All of these concepts that have become so deeply embedded in our political language that we need to escape from because they don't do us any favours. Actually, I think what we should be doing is understanding that the left don't care about hypocrisy. They don't care about being called hypocrites. And so actually what we

should go at them at, the kind of level at which we should attack them, is you enable some of the worst crimes conceivable. With Hugh Edwards today being a prime example, his behavior, the fact that he is basically above the law, is facilitated by the kind of morality that left-wing politics encourages, where all virtue is understood as taking part in social causes and so on, instead of in pursuits of goodness and so on. Yeah, and it was really disappointing. Sorry, I was going to say, just to get back to this story. Yeah, it is very disappointing, but Keir Starmer is not a man who has principles. And, you know, quite frankly, another thing we have to ask is, you know, what favours was he doing for Lord Ali in exchange for all of this money that's, in my knew full well that if it involved his wife given the position that he had taken on carrie johnson that it should have been revealed to the public so

who knows what shady stuff is going down certainly the relationship between lord ali uh both lady starmer and care starmer completely stinks and the mainstream media would be all over it. If it were a Tory, Paul Brand, Beth Rigby, Robert Peston, they would be asking about nothing else. But of course, in this case, they are virtually ignoring it. Credit and kudos to the Sunday Times, part of the mainstream media that did break the story, but the mainstream broadcast media has totally ignored it.

One thing that is brilliant though and you cannot ignore the unpopularity of this new Labour government. Two examples of that. Firstly, Starmer at the races this weekend. And then Alex Baker, the MP. Rush more people first. That was in a local pub.

She posted on X following that event going viral. It's disappointing some people feel it's okay to behave like this, especially when they see me out for lunch with my young family. I'll always be ready to discuss the issues that matter most to my neighbours, but this behaviour gets us nowhere and I will not be intimidated. So Charlie Duns, where do you stand on that reaction to Alex Baker? Should she have been left alone or do her constituents have a right to be furious? I'm kind of in two minds. I mean, I yearn for a time where politics was more respectful and dignified than this.

But on the other hand, an important piece of context to understand in this particular case is the fact that where this MP was, Rushmore, one in four people are immigrants. And in Aldershot in particular, which is a town that I used to live very near to and that I went to many times, 50% of that town is white British. This is one of the places that's at the forefront of the brunt and damage of mass immigration. And so these are people, the working class men and women in this pub will be people who are at the absolute, you know, the razor's edge of the damage that's being done to Britain by the policies of mass immigration of consecutive governments. And so I don't blame them for feeling this way, for looking at the power structure that governs us, noting the fact that it seems to prioritise immigrants over the native British. And then when they express discontent, when they express a little bit of concern about that fact, they're thrown in prison.

So, you know, I don't blame these people for having this reaction because what other recourse do they have? Yeah. Well, David Campbell-Bannerman, great to have you back. I think we have you back. Can you hear us now? Excellent. I can hear you. I think that's a really fair point, isn't it? Because we're constantly told that we can't have the debate. So after the Southport massacre, now is not not going to have the debate about mass immigration because that's just giving into the quote unquote far right. So actually, do we need to start fronting up our elected representatives in a peaceful manner? Of course, that always has to be the defining quality when we give this sort of advice. But where else are people able to express their complete discontent about being ignored? I think it's very dangerous, this, Dan, you know, and one doesn't condone violence on the streets, obviously. But, you know, the underlying issues, as Charlie's touched on, are very, very strong ones and justified at the scale of immigration.

You can see it in the Republic of Ireland that is actually getting very serious, very dangerous in part. It's the same kind of issue. And in Italy, Stammer's there today. It does need addressing and it needs to be spoken about because people are worried about the sheer scale of the numbers coming in and how it's changing their society, an increase of 10 million since Labour came in under Blair. You know, in our population,

did we vote for that? Did we really want that? It's never really been discussed. And I think just lastly, I mean, the thing that worries me about Labour is I accept as a Democrat, they got a majority, but actually it's a mile wide and an inch deep. And what really happens, the Conservative vote collapsed by 20% and turnout went down to almost half, which is unheard of. And the danger is that there isn't actually a popular movement behind the policies that Labour represent, like dropping Rwanda. That was very popular. You know, 70% of people, even a lot of Labour people, were behind that Rwanda policy. And then today we see Starmer actually talking about sending into Albania

rather than Rwanda. It's the same policy, which is offshore processing. So it is a dangerous situation where the government is well out of touch actually in terms of policies indeed indeed now breaking right now the woke wet and hard left actor Hugh Grant has finally had it with left-wing London the UK's capital which I've been saying for years, is going down the toilet. So in a tweet or a post on X, I should say, that he has now deleted after a storm of outrage, he posted who exactly effed London. Dug up, coned, paralyzed, miserable. I need someone to hate. Carl Benjamin of Lotus Eaters reposted that and said,

Hugh Grant has noticed that London is no longer an English city. And isn't it a surprise that even the leftists are noticing just how grim it has become to live in UK's capital? I mean, look at these scenes from East London during the weekend. now of course hugh grant is a very stupid man charlie downs a very stupid man charlie down's a very stupid man because he deleted the tweet because he didn't like the truth and the truth was it's your mates who have destroyed london it's hard left rule it's mass immigration it's sadiq khan not dealing with crime because he's so concerned with islamophobia or being accused of racism but actually actually, it was very enlightening, wasn't it, that initial post? It is fascinating. Hugh Grant, in my mind, very much belongs to this time, essentially the kind of Blair years with Love Actually, where he was essentially playing

Tony Blair. And to see somebody like him, who is so thoroughly embedded in that cultural and political kind of zeitgeist waking up to the consequences of that political and cultural zeitgeist is really really funny if nothing else but it does speak to a larger issue which is that london i'm there all the time unfortunately london is visibly getting worse every single day every time i go there, I see it's as if it can't get any worse. And then it does. Homeless encampments, knife crime, social housing being occupied by people who have arrived here in the last couple of years and so on. And all of it comes down to mass immigration, which in turn is a consequence of an elite class that we've had for

the better part of 30 years who don't care about Britain and who don't listen to the concerns of the people of this country. And if we don't solve these problems, if we don't solve the primary problems of a broken political system and a terrible and damaging policy of mass immigration, you inevitably see the rise of secondary problems. This is something that Douglas Murray talks about all the time. Secondary problems like those scenes that we just saw, riots, violence, fighting. And the response of this government

is to police the secondary problems, to crack down, to increase police presence and police power. And actually that's just like treating the symptoms instead of the root cause of a disease. You know, we live in a sick society and our elite class see fit to just, you know, keep catching up every single wound that appears

without actually addressing the fact that our society is being attacked at its very roots. And my belief now is that unless something happens very, very quickly, unless this illness in our society is treated with some kind of emergency surgery instead of this kind of incremental, pathetic, ineffective sort of treatment, then things are going to get really, really bad. I think that nothing less than a robust policy of essentially re-migration will solve this. Very well put, Charlie. And in fact, what is so concerning, because if you're watching outside of London and thinking, this isn't going to impact me, I promise you, where London goes, the rest of the UK follows. And David Campbell-Bannerman, I don't say this with any joy.

I mean, I chose to make London my home 20 years ago. I loved this city. I was one of those people that thought I would never want to leave London. But it has become an absolutely miserable, broken place to live. I've been the victim of crime. I have had my phone stolen from me twice i mean when you live in a society david where you literally cannot get your phone out on the street because there is a high likelihood that it will be stolen out of your hand when you cannot rely

on the police to even attend your home once it's been burgled that is surely the breakdown of society yeah well i agree dan i mean i used to have a place in ealing and i've left that actually a few years ago sensible um and uh you know and i could see london going down a very sad over 21 years and i think it's policing particularly, or the lack of policing. The only time you see the police is speeding past you or ordering a curry, actually. That was my experience in Ealing. I think immigration is the big driver.

It's just the sheer scale of change and the numbers that are causing this. I'm actually beginning to wonder whether Hugh Grant is preparing the ground to move out for tax reasons, actually. I mean, Charlie Mullins is gone. He was a great Remainer. And, you know, he's protecting his tax. And remember, the Rolling Stones went abroad and the Bee Gees went abroad when Labour brought heavy taxation in in the 70s.

So it could be part of the big movement. You know, we've lost, we're going on for about 10,000 millionaires leaving the country. Yeah, indeed. It is very worrying times, but great to have two big brains like you gentlemen to take us through it.

Thank you so much to my superstar panel today, Charlie Downs and David Campbell-Bannerman. I greatly appreciate it. Now, stand by because Niall Gardner is up in just a moment. And we're going to be revealing this classic fight between Carol Vorderman, who has just been completely embarrassed by the brilliant Dr. Jordan Peterson. So don't go anywhere. Back in just one minute.

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Bongino, in your opinion, is the Secret Service in a better spot today with Director Rowe in charge? No, it's worse. And sadly, I'm glad this is all being recorded because when something else happens, and I hope it doesn't, I pray to my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, that I'm wrong, that you play this and go, look, that guy was crazy. You think this is the last incident, you're out of your mind. We have seen these incidents over and over. We saw the Georgia grenade incident with President Bush. They overtook

the magnetometers. The Secret Service leadership in charge now with the exact same people, exact same. Can you imagine a C-suite at a company that makes widgets? We find out that there's a design defect. The widget explodes and kills 10 people, and the CTO gets a promotion to CEO. You understand that's what happened here, correct? These are the same people. Kim Cheadle, the director, wasn't even fired. She was allowed to resign.

She'll go get some cushy job somewhere and her deputy, who is one of the guys behind these stupid waste of time things like agents wearing red ties on the detail. This actually happened by the way. These people will tell you this on the road if you get the right people. He was concerned about the tie color of the agents on the detail because it seemed to imply he supported president trump congressman big's wearing a red tie you're wearing a semi-red tie there's nothing to do with anything this is the kind of stuff the secret service was actually wasting their time with while withholding csu counter uh surveillance assets and counter sniper assets from probably the most threatened

man on earth if you can explain it good luck because that's not the agency I work for. Niall Gardner from the aforementioned Heritage Foundation joins me now from Washington, D.C. So, Niall, there was Dan Bongino, great to have you, by the way, but there was Dan Bongino predicting a second attempt. We saw it yesterday, and the secret service seemingly just accepting that because trump isn't the sitting president there cannot be the adequate protection well you can understand niall why folk like me are starting to believe that this is increasingly looking like an inside job they want want Donald Trump dead. Am I crazy?

Well, Dan, thanks very much for having me on the show today. And, you know, as you point out, I mean, the situation in the United States right now is absolutely extraordinary. And the degree of hate that's out there that has translated itself now into two assassination attempts against President Trump. The degree of hate is just absolutely outrageous, unprecedented. And this should not be in any way normalized. And I'm struck by how the liberal media in the United States is sort of accepting this as some sort of norm, underplaying what has happened. This is the second attempt on Donald Trump's life in the last few weeks. And it's an incredibly dangerous situation that we have here in the US at this moment. And you also have some people on the left who are trying to minimize what is happening here.

And this, of course, is a direct threat to democracy, to the rule of law, to everything America stands for. And we do have some individuals on the left who are sort of downplaying what's, as though this isn't significant. It's very, very sad to see this kind of response in some parts of the US media to what is happening here. Actually, I've got an example of that, which I want to show you and I'll get you to react off the bat. This is the hard left MSNBC in the moments after the second assassination attempt, unbelievably trying to blame Trump. Watch this. Supporters and say, let's take this down. We do not know, again, the source of any gunshot or gunshots.

We don't know who's responsible for this. The whole thing has yet to be 100% confirmed from start to finish how this all played out. But do you expect to hear anything from the Trump campaign about toning down the rhetoric, toning down the violence, or would that be atypical of the former president? Well, Alex, remember back to the assassination attempt on President Trump's life and how, you know, there was talk of a new tone. And then the Republican convention was, by Trumpian standards, muted. And it did seem like he was, you know, just trying to take it down a few notches. But then by the end of his convention speech, you know, we were kind of back to where we started.

Niall, it was actually no better here in the UK. Just before I get you to respond, let me show you what happened when Sly News came head to head with Sebastian Gorka, the former Donald Trump advisor, last night. Don't accept that they are pleased that he is safe? I reject everything that comes out of their mendacious mouths. They are absolute liars and hacks who hate America and my former boss and anybody who believes in the idea of making America great again. Yes, they are liars. So you are saying that the President of the United States, Joe Biden, is lying when he says that he's relieved that Donald Trump is safe?

That man doesn't even know what day of the week it is. He's a senile bag of oatmeal. Well, I think that's a very base level of accusation against President Trump. Are you here to give your opinions or ask your guest questions? I mean, are you a journalist who wants me to answer questions from a position of having worked in the White House? Are you here to lecture your audience? I'm asking questions, but I'm not giving you a platform to insult others who are not here to defend themselves invite me on your show can you promise me that sebastian gorka thank you very much for speaking to us now of course niall i should point out sly news and msdnc as trump calls it both owned by concast as trump calls it so i guess they're

singing from the same hymn sheet but just an unbelievable response yeah i think you know it's striking the the lack of empathy that's that's out there from large chunks of the so-called mainstream media on both sides of the Atlantic. This was a second assassination attempt here. And this is also an attack upon American democracy itself. But you listen to these liberal commentators and they're barely taking this seriously. And they they really do not express any kind of sympathy whatsoever for for President Trump here.

He's the victim of these assassination attempts. And yet the left trying to seemingly blame Donald Trump for attempts to take away his life. And this is a real sickness, I think, that is the heart of a lot of the media coverage right now of Donald Trump, actually. Vindictiveness, hate, and a clear lack of empathy, sympathy for a fellow human being. We're seeing that from sections of the US and also British media as well. It's very sad to see. It's a damning indictment, I think,

of the state of media today, Dan. It really is. It really is. Now, breaking right now, Dr Jordan Peterson has responded to crazy Carol Vorderman's attempt to cancel the great man live on the radio. So let me tell you what happened. Let me set this up and then we'll get reaction from Niall Gardner. So during Carol's hard left LBC radio show, by the way, these days I call LBC the Labour Broadcasting Company because it is so far to the left.

A man calls up, makes some absolutely reasonable points about why there is now a war on men in the UK, and he happens to quote Jordan Peterson. At that point, Vorderman loses her very, very, very, very tiny mind. Watch. loses a very very very very tiny mind watch i've been through the family courts um and been denied access to my son um from the mother's allegations and to come back to the point about should uh rights automatically be denied i think no given the current state of the family court system. I think that the family court system is actually anti-men. The whole problem is that there's a contempt of men in society. And we keep hearing, like, at government level that, you know...

Well, I would strongly disagree with you on that, Neil, as a woman. Well, if we come back to, like, women's aggressions in society. So, Dr Jordan Peterson, there's a YouTube video... Oh, don't quote it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. as a woman well if we come back to like women's aggressions in society so dr jordan peterson there's a youtube video oh don't quote no no no no no no no you cannot quote jordan peterson on my show i'm sorry i i mean it it's just that they're on flipping heck uh no i'm not having that Neil you sounded quite reasonable but to quote somebody like him who I find a total misogynist and

it's just ridiculous because women are very frightened at the moment no no no no no no no no Vorderman you are completely ridiculous Dr Jordan Peterson has just responded in a post on X, writing, Mean girl hijinks.

The fact that I don't care at all for noisy, deluded, self-righteous, casual, cancel culture feminists doesn't make me a misogynist. Ms. Vorderman. Niall Gardner, whoa, whoa. Her brain is so small that literally the mention of the word Jordan Peterson leads to instant cancellation. And that's what we're dealing with in the mainstream media here in the UK, Niall? Yeah, I think this interview clip that you showed, Dan, is a further illustration of just how intellectually bankrupt a lot of the mainstream media are today when they cancelled a caller who quotes Jordan Peterson, and they seem to be afraid of competing ideas. There's zero tolerance, of course, displayed for conservative viewpoints.

Jordan Peterson, who I've heard speak on a number of occasions, is an extremely smart fellow. He's very well argued, very, very reasonable in his arguments, and a highly intelligent figure. And then you, of course, have Carol Vorderman, who will not even allow the name of Jordan Peterson to be uttered on the radio. It's truly Orwellian, isn't it? I mean, the left is so afraid of competing ideas and opposing viewpoints that you can't even mention Jordan Peterson's name on this particular LBC show because the left are afraid to debate ideas of course and of course they have lost the war of ideas and therefore they try to cancel figures like Jordan Peterson and this is a classic example of this. And that's a stunning

clip that you demonstrated, but it's a real, it's illustration of just how far the mainstream media have fallen. And Jordan Peterson is a brilliant guy, brilliant fellow, one of the brightest minds of this generation. And his views deserve to be heard. So I'm glad he responded to this outrageous attack on him. Indeed, it's hatred and it's demonisation. But the thing is, Niall, Vorderman has made herself look absolutely ridiculous because she claimed that slippery star, whatever you want to call him, in number 10 Downing Street, was going to usher in, Niall, some sort of utopia.

The corruption was going to end. Watch this from election night. And everybody out there is thinking, no more of this. No more of the lies, of the deceit, of the corruption more of the lies of the deceit of the corruption of the now of course niall that's exactly what we've had everything that we've seen from the first weeks of this labor government is about cronyism is about corruption is about personal wealth i I mean, the fact that now Keir Starmer believes, by the way, Keir Starmer worth £10 million, believes that his wife should be funded to the tune of tens of thousands of pounds

and she is flaunting that new designer gear at a fashion show this morning. Does it not just show, Niall, they're all laughing at us? And actually, we should be laughing at Carol Vorderman because folk like you and folk like me warned nile they're all laughing at us and actually we should be laughing at carol vorderman because folk like you and folk like me warned what would happen when labor got in yeah exactly dan i will be warned that labor would be a complete and utter disaster and they have been a complete and utter disaster in government uh and useful idiots like carol vord, for example, who had defended the Labour government countlessly, of course, before they were in power, defending Labour as the so-called saviours of the British people.

Now they're in power, they have buyer's regret with regard to Labour. And this government is absolutely ghastly, so ghastly that even figures like Carol Vorderman, I think, are increasingly embarrassed by them. And it demonstrates just how completely morally bankrupt this Labour government is when even figures like Carol Vorderman are embarrassed with regard to their actions, actually. So a real case of buyers regret. And this, this Labour government, as you pointed out, Dan, really corrupt, far left wing. They've been putting people in jail for their Twitter posts, really woke totalitarianism, I think is what Labour represents in every respect with a lot of, you know, corruption as well, hatred of Israel, tolerance

of Islamist extremism, you name it. I mean, this government does it, right? And I do think this is the most revolting government in British history. It's hard to see how they survive, frankly, for

five years. I know. I think the British people are going to turf them out of the next election. But they have been catastrophically bad in every single respect. This is what happens when you put the far left in power. They destroy the country. Yes. And of course, Niall, I think it is worth pointing out that it was all of these far left mates of Vorderman so Emily Maitlis, John Sopel, Norinda Kerr who were all defending Hugh Edwards do you remember that and today Hugh Edwards jailed sorry Hugh Edwards

avoids jail unfortunately in a really shocking case of two-chair justice, but I think we just have to remember that it was the left who was defending this guy. Yeah, absolutely shocking, actually. And a shocking legal decision that was given. This man should be serving many, many years in jail. And it's outrageous, all the people who were defending him, because of course, he represented the BBC establishment. And so you had, you know, the left wing establishment rallying around him. And it's absolutely outrageous how the establishment initially defended and supported this individual after his, you know, in the wake of absolutely

horrific crimes here. And it does demonstrate as well that the double standard of the British legal system at this time, when you have people being thrown into jail for their for their tweets expressing opinions this is the the reality of britain uh today under uh kirsten's orwellian two-tier uh government like it's an absolute disgrace totally correct totally correct niall gunner look do stand by don't go anywhere because like me niall is a big fan of the British royal family. He is a commentator on all things monarchy. And it has been a big weekend in the British royal family. But also with the exiled royal ones.

Because Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are doing their best damage control. After an absolutely damning piece of US journalism, which has revealed that Meghan Markle is described as a dictator in high heels by her staff in Montecito. So we're going to have the latest on that, but it's in my uncancelled after show, because you know, it's very important to me that we have a safe space that is not patrolled by big tech where censorship and control runs deep so that's why i've launched www.outspoken.live it is our membership section where you get half an hour of extra content every day after the main show so this is what happens we come off youtube and rumble at this stage we

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