Dan Wootton Outspoken - UK HOLY WAR WARNING AFTER DECLARATION AGAINST ISLAMISTS, MARXISTS & SOCIALISTS BY NICK TENCONI

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

UKIP leader and Turning Point UK boss Nick Tenconi joins Dan for a bombshell interview where he reveals why the UK is fighting a Holy War, the true impact of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, why King Charles is a traitor and how Camilla Tominey of GB News is a coward. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode 319. Very special episode today. An opportunity to get in depth with the leader of UKIP, Nick Tenconi, at what is a fascinating time in British politics, revolution in the air. Many say the Uniting the Kingdom rally in which Nick marched at the weekend is a turning point. And of course, Turning Point is a phrase that Nick is very aware of, one of the leaders of Turning Point UK, which of course has been rocked by the political assassination in the US of its founder, Charlie Kirk. So we're going to get into all of that today. How can the United Kingdom be saved? And of course, because this is a special edition of the show, there will be no live after show today.

But I would still love you to join our substack community, www.outspoken.org is the address. The Royal Uncanceled Aftershow will return very soon. But don't worry if you do still want your fix of Royal News. We have new videos going up every day on YouTube. So now let's go. Nick Tanconi is the leader of UKIP, a party of course, which has a real history in British politics. Behind the Brexit Revolution with Nigel Farage in charge, but Nick has taken the party in a different direction.

He has taken to the streets. Watch this. You've been told your country isn't yours. But it is ours. This land is ours. These streets are our streets. These churches and parishes and schools. The government, it all belongs to rock. I say, send them home! Send them home! Send them home! Key stormers up!

There are. Two streets! Two streets! Two streets! Oströmish! Horstreet! No, nation, deportation. Ladies and gentlemen, the far left, the Islamists, they always try to crash.

Conservative events. Enough is enough. It's time to rid that building of traitors and the liberal elite who despise the ordinary hardworking man. We're taking our country back, ladies and gentlemen. ...spoken studio for the first time. You are a different breed. greed of political leader. Britain hasn't really seen a political leader like you in the modern era.

You are on the streets, you are taking the fight direct as an activist. This is something quite different, much more of a cultural type of movement like the one that Tommy Robinson has led. But of course you are the leader of a heritage political party, which has previously seen people like Nigel Farage, Henry Bolton, even more recently, Neil Hamilton in charge. What's behind this very dramatic U-turn in terms of the style of leadership within UKIP? So certainly, with regards to my predecessors, these were different times bubbling away under the surface. The cauldrons have all been bubbling away. So where are we at? Our enemies are the

communists, the Marxists, the Islamists, the socialists, and behind every liberal is a socialist, behind every socialist, a communist. Liberals love to talk about being right-wing and small-sea conservative when it suits them after a glass of wine. They love playing both sides of the field. So I think we have a massive problem with liberalism, liberal narcissistic personality disorder, burying the head in the sand, cowardly behavior, when we've got middle class, Christianity, which is an absolute bastardization of our faith. So if you look at every, everything in the last 10, 15 years. Obviously, it's been building up and building up ever since the Second World War.

More libertarianism, individualism, liberalism, corporateism, vulture capitalism, bringing in the worker bee so all the corporations can earn as much money as possible, not the same as capitalism. If you look at everything top down, we need something completely new, completely fresh, completely bold. It absolutely has to be the case that the Patriots, Dan, realize, that we have fallen so far from grace we must put christianity uh front center back we must put christian first not cultural christianity not christian heritage or any talk about christian christianity

the one true faith having anything to do with laws and constitutions all of that may well be very true the one true faith is either the one true faith or it is not we have fallen from grace so much has changed and when you look at it the british people the working man deserves a better class of politician. They deserve a better class of leader. They deserve something young, incredibly passionate, and I would have no issue with someone saying, using the word aggressive either. We need something different, which is standing up to the deep state and to the globalists who are essentially the, once you go past the communists at street level and the liberals that bury their head in the sand and the Islamists who have murderous intent on our Christian

brothers and sisters. There is a globalist deep state saying, you shall not pass, and you will not have control over your sovereign borders. So we have enemies everywhere, including the rise of a potential far right threat also in Britain, as you well know, which begins with ethno-nationalism and ends with your goose-stepping neo-Nazis. What we need is something courageous, brave, and bold. So in terms of my background, my education, what influences me, I knew at the start of lockdown, Wuhan, November 19, that something satanic, something evil was coming our way. And I don't just mean evil, wickedness, darkness, people do atrocious things, something supernational, something that was incredibly powerful and incredibly manipulative. And we saw that and we got pushed into lockdown.

As a self-employed man, I was told I couldn't go to work for nine months, but my bills kept coming. So most people by now know. So that was your radicalisation moment? Yeah, most people by no, that was the turning point. That was the radicalisation moment. I will fight back. my degree, my education, all of this from the last 20, 25 years, has been building up to this, being self-employed, being independent, being my own boss, a working man,

always dealing with being in B2C environments as well, always having customers. I know generally what people want and how they think, and also that was my former business as well, was to transform lives through coaching and mentoring. So it's very much the case when we talk about why the change with you can, what's behind it I know what Britain needs it needs Christian knights to take part in this crusade

and it is a holy war well I was going to ask that do you view this as warfare because of course we heard Elon Musk on stage at the Uniting the Kingdom rally on Saturday say you don't have to talk about violence but violence is coming for you

whether you like it or not and of course the mainstream media reaction to that was to slam him for encouraging violence. Well, no, they even go one step further. Don't they even G.B. News saying, you know, outrages. Elon Musk incites violence. But is it

him inciting violence, or is it actually being aware of what we have suffered as a Christian country now, certainly since 2005, which is Islamist terror attacks and the fear and the threat of this,

on a constant basis. Yeah, absolutely. So did they declare war? Yeah, absolutely. So linking back to what I think we need and radical U-turn for UKIP, etc., this is exactly what we need. It's not cultural Christianity,

it's not Christianity by heritage. It is the one true faith, which courage is the greatest virtue and is one of the most noble and holy virtues that's taught in Christianity. Courage produces truth, beauty, justice and light. And we are at war against far-left totalitarian propaganda, We're at war against communists, socialists, Marxists and Islamists who slander and smear you so that you doubt yourself, so that you stay silent.

Their bullies and thugs, their tactics are despicable. They also use their rhetoric, as we're now finding out, which is a key component of far-left totalitarian propaganda, to incite other people to want to commit murder and to act as terrorists. Words are important. I'll say that again. This is a very important quote. words are important and both words and actions have consequences and with the murder of our boss at turning point charlie kirk god rest his soul we're now seeing that take place now you couple that with individuals like bob villain no one knows who this guy is uh i certainly didn't know about

him and then the latest video which i think was today or yesterday maybe so so this week he has said that he's well he's encouraged celebration of the death of bob villain but but but he's He's gone one step further than that. He has made it very clear that this is part of a left-wing campaign, including in the UK, to take out enemies with violence, which I always believed. I mean, the moment it happened with Charlie Kirk, I thought that's what this was the start of.

But for him to be on stage, leaning into that, and having an entire audience whooping and hollering and supporting him, I think shows not just how far the lift have fallen, but how dangerous they now are. Yeah, so linking the points together, what we've been trying to do with the Patriots for some years now, and especially in my tenure in the last over a year now as leader of UKIP, is to explain what far left totalitarian propaganda looks like and sounds like.

So initially we thought it's to slander you, is to smear you, is to shun you into silence. These are bullying tactics. Shut up, otherwise we'll call you a Nazi, this type of thing. This is why Christian courage is required, and the knights are now once again required, because it's courage that overcomes fear. It's courage that stands up to the bullies. But how far does this go?

Because let's look at this from a political perspective, right? Because you are the leader of a party, you have a policy platform, which presumably you're going to be developing ahead of the next election. So there were some people on stage at Uniting the Kingdom, who, for example, have called for the closure of mosques in the United Kingdom. Ant Middleton, who I spoke to for outspoken after his address on stage, stood by his comments to actually, he didn't say at all levels, by the way, so he's very clear he doesn't mean it like a council level or a councillor level,

but he doesn't believe that major political roles in the United Kingdom, presumably including the Home Secretary, who is now a fundamentalist Muslim, should be held by people who are believers in the Islam faith. Is that politically palatable? Yes, certainly. So where we're at is our policy is incredibly clear. No member of Islam would be anywhere near, allowed anywhere near high command at UKIP.

It's a full stop there. It's a very, very easy thing to comment on. So just to clarify that, because I don't even know if you're allowed to do that in this country. Like, would you be happy to fight that in the courts for it? example? Yeah, certainly. So, I mean, there's no discrimination at UKIP whatsoever, but there's a difference between, so for example, but if you're Muslim, you wouldn't be able to take a senior role in the party? You wouldn't be anywhere near High Command, no, absolutely not. It's a Christian country. And unfortunately, after October 7th, we look for the peaceful moderate Muslims to extend

the hand to socially conservative Christians, be they Catholic or Protestant or Orthodox, and stand with a shoulder to shoulder. We didn't see that. It's been two years almost to the day, well, almost. And we still don't see that. The Islamists are the snakes, but the moderates of the tall grass that they hide through. We are and slither through. We are at war. So the hand, as ever, on record of saying, remains extended to peaceful, moderate Muslims who are not Islamists, who are not part of radical Islam, who do not subscribe to Islamism or radical Islam. And we say, stand with us as typically a socially conservative religion and declare war on radical Islam. I mean, how do we deal with these mosques, Nick?

Because no one is talking about what is going on in these mosques. Now, I know a lot about this because I actually used to live in a part of East London where a lot of these mosques operate. And I know for a fact, because I have spoken to people, including on the show, actually, with Sahel Ahmed, who was a young gay Muslim who very nearly blew himself up at Canary Wharf because he had been radicalized. Actually, no, sorry, I want to be clear. He didn't nearly blow himself up. He nearly placed an IED in Canary Wharf. It wasn't going to be a suicide bomb, but he intended to set out to kill large amounts of people because he was radicalized in one of these mosques operating

in Whitechapel, do you know what I mean, in East London, right in the centre of our capital city. And at these mosques, Nick, British-born youth are radicalised to the point where gay people like me should be pushed off the top of skyscrapers. That is literally the teaching of those mosques. And women should not be allowed to leave the home. And this is being taught within these mosques. And as far as I can see, there is no plan by any political party in this country to actually tackle the teachings that are going on inside of these mosques. Sure. So let's be absolutely clear.

What you're referring to now, which I think you've done spot on, by the way, is stages. The first stage is to declare war and radical Islam. So there's 80 prescribed terrorist organizations in the UK. Shut down the Sharia courts. Yeah. 57 out of the 80 are prescribed a jihadi radical Islamist, etc. So every single one of those organizations,

members, proponents, splinter cells, terrorist cells. anyone who knows that in mass deportations and re-migration, they're all going home. And you're a hardline on this. Hardline on this. And that links to the... So what? So if you have... Just to be clear, because this is obviously becoming a really critical issue, how it's done. So you're saying if you have any links to a radical Islam organisation, you will be re-migrated under UKIP policy. Yeah. So five pillars, Muslim Brotherhood. Even if you were born in this country. Yeah, it makes no difference whatsoever.

So remigration, as you know, refers to citizenship deprivation, so you're going home. So let's just say, for example, minutia examples aren't helpful, but to go stage further for your audience, someone is being monitored, going back to the 57 out of the 80 prescribed terrorist organisations, let's talk about that in terms of individuals. There's 45,000 terrorists on MI5's Terror Watch List, 39,000 are radical Islamist, jihadist, et cetera, et cetera. So anything where they don't have to have been gilded. found guilty of a crime, but they are radical in orientation. They've said radical things.

They're part of the radical indoctrination and the radicalisation program in the mosques, for example. A lot of these people will have criminal records. A lot of these people will have intelligence will have it on tape. And does this include anyone involved in the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs? Of course, absolutely. Anyone found guilt. Everyone who took part in the rape of Britain will be deported. But Rupert Lowe has even gone one step further. and said if you were part of covering it up or you were shielding a family member because we know that goes on. I mean, I've spoken to Sammy Woodhouse about this. You know, the families are very complicit, Nick, and what goes on? Like, would you go as far as Rupert Lowe and actually

say those people should also be deported? Yeah, certainly. And I definitely would add in, I'm not sure that Lowe has the monopoly on that policy. There's a lot that we've come out with in the last year, which then gets recycled. But no, to be absolutely clear to your audience, anyone complicit in the cover-up must face the consequences as well. So, for example, if they are someone who is of European or British heritage, for example,

and deportation is simply not possible, there is a line with deportations and remigration, but you're talking about prison time. And that goes for everyone. So councillors, we know that the girls and the fathers went to councillors, mayors, police constables, detectives, bronze commanders, gold commander, silver commanders, MPs, anyone you can think of that we can find who aided and abetted in shutting their mouths

for the sake of diversity as that appalling tweet, which, as we know, Nas Shah liked and retweeted, I believe, anyone involved in the cover up there will be treated as the most heinous of crimes. And in some cases, I'm not a judge or jury, that might be six months in jail. It might be five years. It might be 10 years. But we must achieve justice for the girls. And the suspected over a million girls interfered with, not just girls, by the way.

And that's still happening to this day as well. So this is a lifelong project that guys like you and I, and when we finally achieve power, our legacy, we pass on to the next generation. This must be remedied in context. There is no consolation for this sort of thing. Well, indeed, because we'll come to Charlie. Kirk and I want to speak more about him later. But for example, you know, he was one of the people who

led the charge in terms of speaking about the threat of Islam in the United Kingdom. Gert Wilders, after his death, was prepared to repost some of his comments, which very ironically Nick could actually probably see you locked up in the United Kingdom today under Slippery Stama. But I know what you're saying, by the way, when you're talking about the radical Islamic groups, of course I do. and you do have to deal with them first. But do you agree with Gad Sad, you know, the author of Suicidal Empathy, brilliant academic, who says, and you know, he's called me up on this before, by the way. So I will hold my hands up and say, I sometimes maybe make this mistake too.

But he says, it's pointless talking about extreme Islam. It doesn't exist. You're just talking about a faith. and it's all extreme. So I'm completely clear on this point. My hand remains extended to what we call the peaceful, moderate Muslim community. You will be declaring and decreeing that this is a Christian land. You will be a part of a society which says,

I want to work, pay my tax, and I want to get on with my life. And I live in a Christian land. We are post-modern, post-modern. We live in a globalised era. 4.1 million Muslims here. You and I have both met good people before. Absolutely. Raj and Mia is a good example.

Obviously, I'm not aware of his status, practicing or otherwise. And I will not let those people down. Just like our enemies on the far right, fringes they may be, have a very big problem with a certain demographic also. So my hand remains extended to those peaceful, moderate individuals who 100... But you crack down on the extremism going on within the mosques. The mosques that foster extremism must go and will go and will be demolished. Because that's my concern, you see. I just don't see anyone tackling that or prepared to tackle that issue.

And the problem is a lot of these mosques actually operate as if they are very respectable. Of course. And then the teachings are very, very much against the native population. I think there's a number of things to consider here. So under a UKIP government, putting Christianity back into the heart of government, not only means X, Y, Z to our most vulnerable within society, our elderly disabled women and children. And it's going to be truly glorious when we do it.

But it also means we're going to end the defunding of Christianity. It also means there'll be no more funding or promotion of other religions in anything to do with public society and taxpayer-funded money. So there's ways of doing things. We must crack down on the, I disagree with Sadd, I think there is a very big problem with Islamism and with radical Islam. And my message to those peaceful, moderate Muslims who proclaim to be peaceful moderate, my hands extended, but I wouldn't poke the bear on it.

And that's my line. Because obviously we've seen a lot of people who probably think they are peaceful and moderate actually act in ways that absolutely are not, for example, in regards to Palestine actions. So it's interesting. But I think one of the issues we've also got in this country, Nick, is with the the soft right, you know, the people who consider themselves on the right, who consider themselves to be patriots, but get themselves so tied up. And I'll give you the example of Camilla Tomine,

who is, you know, flagship presenter now at GV News, star columnist of the Daily Telegraph, influential accepted in all of the right-wing parties. Now, she recently went on ITV, woke ITV, as I call it, The This Morning Show, and described Tommy Robinson. as a white supremacist. And what was interesting, she then felt she needed to try and back that up some way. So she started speaking to a whole load of enemies of Tommy Robinson who were really humiliating to her

because they were like, well, no, he's certainly not a white. Yes, he's got an issue with Islam, but he's not a white supremacist. He's got black friends. He's got Asian friends. He's very open about this. And she said, well, yes, but he wants the United Kingdom to be,

a predominantly Christian country. So isn't that some form of supremacy? And I thought, hasn't our right-wing media lost its way, Nick, when we can't even sit there and defend the fact that we want the United Kingdom to stay a Christian country? Yeah, I'm aware of who she is. I'm not sure what there is to say liberals, liberals being liberals, liberal mindsets.

But she's not viewed as a liberal. People will be shocked to hear you say that, Nick. Do you see what I mean? Of course. She is viewed as a conservative. But what you're saying, that type of policy positioning means that you can say you're a conservative, but you're not. Yeah, cowards. I was on LBC the other morning with a lady named Sheila.

Oh. I've never been on LBC with Sheila. Fogarty or Sheila Foghorn. Yeah. I've never been on with her before. Not a pleasant woman, Nick. Yeah. So I was ambushed, obviously.

was about Charlie Kirk, God rest of soul. And then I was ambushed with regards to attacking me about Christian fundamentalism, which was so easy to dismantle. I mean, honestly, I think I fell asleep halfway through the interview and I still smashed it. Going back to, is it Camilla? Yeah. Liberals, so we're at war. And I mentioned right at the start when you let me intro, communism, Islamism, Marxism, socialism, far left extremism, we know that. But liberals, liberalism, individual identity individualistic style

politics I'm all right I pull the ladder up it's all got to end we must start looking at the collective we must go back to our roots which is which is Christianity but you can understand

that's difficult for people to understand because they view GB News and the Daily Telegraph on the right side of the argument and perhaps at some point they were so it's quite

complicated for people and I think we saw a lot of it at the weekend actually too where I was shocked because remember I mean these are my former employers so it gives me no joy to talk about how far they've fallen in a lot of ways but at the weekend I actually saw like the daily mail willing there to be violence Gb news not reporting anything that actually happened on stage with that extraordinary intervention from Elon Musk for example but reporting on the fact that there were 25 arrests which is absolutely nothing for an event. of that size. So I guess what I'm saying is how do people know, you know, so you quickly dismiss her as a liberal, right? But how are people meant to know that? This is very easy

to explain. My message to the Patriots is that we have absolutely no time left. We need to start setting boundaries. Going back to what I was saying. So if you declare Tommy Robinson a racist, for example, as Nigel Farage or Julia Hartley Brewer or Camilla Tomini has done, you can just be dismissed at that point. It's it. Dismiss them. Yeah. So there's zero tolerance policy to non-compliance. We're taking our country back. So we are right-wing Christian nationalists. We reject ethno-nationalism. We reject far-right extremism, which is very, very fringe. But unfortunately, with Elon opening up, X, the way he has done, it is now the Wild West. So unfortunately, that means that you've got all of the legitimization and normalization of the commies. But you've also got that on the right as well.

But this is, again, such a problem for people, Nick. And I'm really interested to go into this, because obviously you're called far right. I'm called far right. Nigel Farage is called far right. So again, how are people meant to know what actually is far right, which is a term that is associated with Hitler and the Nazis? I mean, what's your definition of it?

People who want the abolition of races? Is that your definition? What is your definition of what actually is far right? what it means to be far right so key and thanks be to god for you and all the podcasters because it gives me a chance to explain to your audience and hopefully a lot of people see it so the far right begin everything's on a spectrum so for your audience everything's on a spectrum um the far right begins with what's called ethno-nationalism which um not all ethno-national explain to people what you mean yeah so ethno-nationalists say uh in a country where they are from

that their lineage and that they believe their lineage and their ethnicity is what is what is you what is where your identity is found, this is what should come first, and they don't want invaders. That means different skin colors, not different backgrounds or languages or faiths, but they focus solely on skin color. Now, not every ethno-nationalist is where the far right begins, and no ethnot would say that they weren't far right. Then you move forward, as we've seen happen with the left and with the communists. You move from being a liberal to be a socialist to being a communist. So everything's on a spectrum. Once you're radicalized or groomed online by the actual Nazis, by the actual far right, you move away from ethno-nationalism

to right. So I'm proud to be white, just like if you're proud to be black, that's absolutely fine. This is their argument. And actually, I want them all gone. See, that's a sliding scale, they move to the right. I want anything that's not white. I don't care about religion. I don't care if you're a communist. I don't care if you're an extremist. I just want it to be white. And they We've even been targeting people lately, including, you know, I think he's still involved in UK, Father Calvin Robinson, who is one of the most English and most socially conservative people in this country, has been targeted. So these ethno-nationalists want, so I can make this, we can have a bit of a laugh about

this as well, they want me gone because of, I'm a third Italian, they don't care that I'm a third Irish, they don't care that I'm a third English, they want me gone. So whenever it's for your audience, when you get in front of an ethno-nationalist, Be very firm of them and say, right, tell me, show me on the map, where would you draw the line? Who's going home and who's staying? Some of them will draw the line at Poland. Some of them will draw the line. They're okay with Slav, Scandy, for example.

And then you've got the hardcore lot to say, if you're not Celtic, Anglo-Saxon. Pretty sure the Romans were here at one point, were they not? Right, okay. So the ethno-nationalists, they'll say no more. Their argument is insane. And to judge people on skin color and to be so hateful based on skin color is insane. To say that we are being replaced is very true, and we're very clear about this is a completely different argument. We are being replaced.

But where's the personal responsibility with regards to us having children? Where's the personal responsibility with regards to the fact the abortion clinics? They're not filled with Muslims. They're not filled with Catholics. They're not filled with orthodox. We know who the abortion clinics are filled with. Liberal mindsets, weak parenting, weak fatherhood. So we saw it the other day, didn't we?

The truly vile Lily Allen and Mikita Oliver joking, Nick, about the fact. And this is on a BBC podcast, a podcast funded by our license fee. Oh, hilarious. I can't remember how many abortions I've had. Is it six? Is it seven? I mean, and that's a publicly funded podcast. This is the mindset.

So we must take, so as conservatives, personal responsibility 101. So again, for your audience, the ethno-nationalist position makes no sense. They're angry, their life's losers, and it makes no sense either. We need to start having babies. We need to start creating families. But the problem is, of course, is that the mainstream media, the critics on the left, don't differentiate at all between you and you Kip and those people who you define as being on the far right. And this is, again, super important for your audience.

So going back to your other point, you've got liberals. masquerading as small sea conservatives, which are platform, mainstream media, which confuses the public. So the public doesn't understand. And then, again, from the centre, jump across conservatism to ethno-nationalism, we're all called far-right racists and Nazis, et cetera. So the outcome is this. I am telling the British people, in four years, we've got one more shot at this. In four years' time, there's no more grains of sand left in the hourglass. You must pick a political party. You must pick a leader. You must pick their vision and you must go all in on it. And that party and those leaders must be explaining 24-7 for a living without drawing breath

to the patriots what small-sea conservatism and Christian nationalism stands for. Is Nigel Farage a small-sea conservative? No, he's a liberal. Explain. And that's not a slur in any way against Nigel, by the way at all. I think that... He's the former leader of your party. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, he made you keep famous. It did indeed. So you're saying you had a liberal leader? Yes. So when we talk, this is absolutely vital.

When we talk about liberalism, Marxism, Islamism, communism, conservatism, we're talking about ideologies. And this is what I am doing, day and night, online, phone calls, and at street level. Because the patriots aren't necessarily aware of what their ideology is. Yeah, so what makes him a liberal? So if you are, if we, if we refer to someone as being a liberal, their ideology would be either liberalism or libertarianism. both say that love is love both say stand for everything stand for nothing both say sit on the fence don't get involved both say pull the ladder up both say i'm all right jack both say i want two

cars a driveway and i want to keep getting a bigger and bigger and bigger house and i want to keep working i want to keep my job i want to tow the line and there's an awful lot of godlessness as well with these individualistic mindsets because you're moving away from love thy neighbor to love thyself and not my subjective opinion either and the problem of love thyself is not only is it unholy and anti-god and it severes your relationship with grace but it also forces the issue of pride which is the capital sin and pride leads to narcissism so be very clear with your audience when i refer to liberals and liberal mindsets and i think nigel's a liberal these people essentially will play the field they will hedge their bets they might move this way they might move

that way it depends and again there's no christian courage there either and we're at war against the communists and the Islamist true but also deep state as we've seen with charlie kirk's assassination there is potential that that was globalist deep state intervention we don't know yet most likely it's toxic far left ideology and there's evidence to suggest of the killer uh at the moment but we'll find out won't either way it's an extremist idea we won't again we might not that's one of the problems isn't it how much can we trust what what we know what we're told but certain I agree at the moment, it's looking like this was a radicalised guy, but I never fully trust that we get the full stories in these cases. Can we also talk, Nick, about King Charles?

Because this is of huge concern to my audience. It's something that the mainstream media don't talk about at all. I was discussing this with Ben Habib yesterday, and people can watch that conversation and see, I laid all my cards on the table. I find this difficult to talk about. for a whole load of reasons because he's our monarch and I am a royalist and I support our monarch however one of... Who said that so?

That's what I... That's my... I talk about this but what I'm saying is I don't find it easy to talk about because I want to be able to support our king. But one of the biggest concerns of the outspoken audience is King Charles's links to Islam

and the fact that he's meant to be the defender of the faith and seems to be pushing the Muslim faith over the Christian faith. Can you talk to me a little bit about what you think is going on there? Yeah, certainly. So I think, I don't want to sound repetitive, but we're taking our country back. So there's zero tolerance policy to noncompliance. King Charles, are we ready to call him a traitor?

Are we ready to do that? Because I am. Well, you tell me. I am. Absolutely. It makes no odds to me. We're taking our country back. they're going to come for me they're going to come anyone doing what I do they're

going to come for me makes no difference to me so so let's just can we just break that down before we get to that point because he has spoken about the Quran okay he has celebrated Ramadan he has recited verses from the Quran is that what you're saying is making him a traitor or is it because he's doing something behind the scene no so it's been the need to Islam. Either Christianity and trinitarian dogma is the truth or it is not the truth. Again, going back to earlier point, no mercy, no diplomacy, no surrender. We must take our country back, but we must protect the most vulnerable within society. We must secure our borders, but we cannot do this. We will not be rewarded by God if we continue to sever our relationship

with God. We must put Christianity first, not in terms of heritage or constitutional culture. Some might even call that blasphemous. It is either the truth, the way, in the way in the life or it is not and king charles knows that more than anyone and there will be no bending the knee to islam why isn't he pandering to other religions in the same way there seems to be something going on here whereby positions of people in a position of power and prominence just absolutely must bend the knee to the six percent four point one million of these um of this particular demographic why you tell me reciting reciting verses and we've all seen the clips that go viral all around Ramadan and sometimes this often coincides with Easter and even at Christmas.

We've seen the timings of it all. And when are we ever seeing King Charles do anything for Christianity as well? This is hugely problematic for me because it should be first, second and third. So does this put the entire monarchy at threat then? And does that then not, do you not risk UKIP being seen as a radical party rather than a party trying to preserve Christian traditions in this country because, I mean, for example, and I'm sure you're concerned about this too. I mean, it's very clear that Prince William, the heir to the throne is not a church goer, has no real passion about the Church of England. Well, he's the next head of the Church of

England. So what are you actually suggesting in terms of how you can deal with this? Do you see what mean because these are individuals so even if your prime minister how do you deal with that or are you talking about the abolition of the monarchy so we must face we must face realities if if you have cancer if you have rot it has to go and there must be a sacrifice so the people will have to through referendums and through difficult conversations the people will have to decide and under a government, which is what you're inferring, that conversation has to happen, doesn't it? Which side are you are batting for? Who are you, which side are you actually rooting for here?

But so is UKIP party policy to have a referendum on the future of the monarchy? No, so that's not in policy at the moment. So like your good self, small C conservatives, we're pro, we're royalists, we're pro the monarchy. 100%. But see, this is, but this is exactly why I'm having this conversation though, Nick, because it's difficult. Isn't it? Number one, exactly. We want to preserve this tradition. We want to preserve this tradition for lots of good reasons. Number two, I'm pretty sure you probably agree with me that an alternative is a bit of a nightmare scenario. I mean what? We see Gary Lineker elected as, you know, the next

president of the country. So there's all of that going on to. But that's why I'm really interested to know how you actually think we can deal with this. Because it's very difficult for a frontline politician, although I respect you for doing so, to call out the monarch and very few are prepared to do so. But do you see what I mean? I don't know. I guess I'm struggling to think of what the solution to this is. If we have, I mean, you've seen Elon Musk criticize the direction of the Church of England, but I mean, if we have a king and a future king who are not particularly invested in the future of the Church of England, then what the hell do you do when you're wanting to re-establish this Christian country?

So let's just say that, for example, we return a majority, and then obviously there's a meeting with, well, again, this is presuming an awful lot. Obviously, the King's health is age, for example. Let's say it's with William. You have that sit down. I don't see why that sit down can't happen,

and I don't see why it can't be televised, whereby we actually have that frank conversation. This is the way I see it going. And again, let the people decide. So you like that sort of Donald Trump style of diplomacy, where you could actually envisage like an Oval Office meeting like with Zelensky and Trump where you would actually put King Charles on the spot. That's correct. Or his successor, depending on what happens.

Absolutely. And then let the people decide. But I think, I think nothing is set. Nothing is certain. All bets are off the table. And I think that we're going to go through. You mentioned, you mentioned the word radical a few times. We are at war. We need radical change. We need radical solutions as well. And I want to bring up the Church of England as well, as you've mentioned here. So King Charles is supposed to be the defender of the faith. Yes. He's not the defender of the Catholic faith. It's not the defender of the Orthodox faith. He's the defender of the Church of England. So let's all have the conversation about the Church of England. Let's talk about the trans flag. Let's talk about the gay pride flag.

Let's talk about female vicars and I think they have bishops as well and all these sorts of things. Let's open this up to the Christian community. And let's say, is love, love. Where do we draw the line here. What do we do? Some of these parishes, they offer shots of jello and bread as communion that's passed around on a tray. A lot of these churches use them as nightclubs. I'm sure you've seen yourself as well. So let's all have the conversation about what do we want Christianity to look like? Because I remember a Christianity from reading books and from studying, which was filled with knights that were there to defend, protect and promote the faith. They are under orders as baptized Christians to do so.

Let's look at where Christianity is now. We are an absolute mess, totally divided, totally fractured, and the globalists and big business and the government and the corruption involved knows that nature abhors a vacuum. So guess what? It's going to turn its head to the next big pound sign opportunity. It's going to turn its head to the next big, well, these guys are spending an awful lot of money in that direction,

and these guys are outbreeding these guys. So there's a, that we have to take responsibility for this. So I'm asking the Patriots, what type of Christianity bringing up my interview with, on LBC the other morning with the individual, just. Patty Foggetty. Just, just going for me that she also. That's Katie Hopkins name, by the way. I don't, I've been very cruel.

You haven't got ownership on that. No, I don't. You know, we must challenge this middle class Christianity nonsense. Fogorn, Foggetty, I call it. Yeah. Nick, I want to talk about turning. and what's happened with Charlie Kirk and also bring this into your background too. So can we start with Charlie Kirk and how much this has hit you?

Because I imagine given your involvement in Turning Point UK at a very, very senior level, he must have been a real idol to you. it's it's so um it's so fresh it's so uh it's so hard to talk about because i just keep thinking about erika and the two the two girls um charlie kirk was someone that i saw through what we call graphic format online when you see a graphic and turning point uk was quoting people candace owens jordan peterson ben shapiro obviously the main man himself god rest his soul um a whole a whole palethora, in fact, Clarkson, all these different

types of people, if they were coming out with anything common sense or socially conservative, which we typically refer to as right wing, I was the guy during lockdown who saw that, and I knew in 2019 I had to do something, but I didn't know what. I was the guy that saw that. And so at that point, Nick, you are working

as, what, a career coach? So personal trainer, boxing coach, but you're pretty much a life coach because of the problems that people have nowadays, so it's multifaceted. And And how old are you at that point? So 35, 36 was the turning point for me. And you're in your early 40s now.

So you're still relatively young in this whole movement. But you go through that period during lockdown where so many of us were radicalised and decide what? I want to be the British Charlie Kirk. I want to fly that flag here. Is that how it happened? Yes, certainly. So a lot of people say at that point, the British Charlie Kirk,

the British Donald Trump, my answer is the British Nick Tenconi. So you're an ordinary, I guess the point I'm trying to make up until this point, is that you're an ordinary bloke up until this point. You haven't had a strong political leaning or got particularly involved in the first couple of decades. That's very important.

So hugely political. hugely nationalistic, right-wing, socially conservative, Christian nationalists from as early as I can remember. Got it. That's always been in me. So there are, there are... You just didn't necessarily see it as a career, right here. I'm millennial, Dan. Or liberalism, godlessness, the whole package. Go to university, even without a vocational degree. Just go and just go and get a degree. We've learned from that now. Yeah, we've all done that. We've all been there, done that. Make sure you leave home as soon as possible. You know, yeah, exactly.

Was it from a red brick grey? Are you doing anything with it? No. Are you in loads of debt? Yes. So, you know, and Charlie, bless him. He called this out all the time. He didn't.

He didn't go to university. He was 31 years old. So young. It's just beyond painful. But yeah, so 10 years younger than us, give or take an inch, whatever. I'm the guy, as you say, normal guy. Strong, smallsy conservative,

Christian nationalist, always prayed, always gone to church. Typical Christian story. We use the word lapsed. Of course you become lapsed. Of course you do. It's life. It's the journey.

But you return. Off the wagon, back on again. But did that impact your relationships like girlfriends, friends, are they? Because, as you say, growing up in our era, it really wasn't the dumb thing. Yeah. So I've actually never spoken about this. I don't know how much detail you want, but I'm happy to be vulnerable with you guys if you want. Please.

So what happened, November 19, Wuhan, radar up, red flags up, and then radicalisation in 2020, sat at home. I wasn't a relationship, and I was living in Reading at the time, and I was in quite an affluent part of the world very often called Henley on Thames. And I had a bit of a presence there, shall we say. I didn't live there, but I had lived there in the past. And I remember being sat there, and I hadn't heard of the word appropriation before, but apparently the left user, if you are saying something, or if you're a white, girl with dreadlocks for example that would be appropriation yes right and um laurence fox was very important to me five years ago because of the what happened to him on the bbc i think that was 2020 yes with megan marcoe so all of this radicalization's happening on happening on at the same time

anyway long story short i'm sat there i was dating at the time and um i'm with a group of people and if you've seen narcos on netflix the girl opposite me was a spitting image of one of the female bosses and i said that And I can't tell you what happened next. I was attacked. I was verbally assaulted. My pint was picked up by a girl had thrown in the little garden area,

get out. And it was... Why? What was the... And I've never actually explained this to people. And it was... It's very difficult to explain that it was an afternoon.

It was pleasant. Everything was fine. And it's like the millennials remember how life used to be where everyone's mates. No one was raised. racist. Everything was fine. We're talking 90s, naughties, growing up, etc.

Absolutely, which is the way I call it. Normal life. So couple that with the turning point graphics and this one incident and leading to your point, I would see we had the Greta Thunberg doing what she was doing during the BLM riots. We had the tearing down of the statue, which able. But why did they, sorry, just to go back, why did she turn on you for saying that? How was that offence? Now I know they're radical communists.

But that, this didn't happen to me in 2018. Yeah, 19, Circus 16, Brexit. I put a picture up that's still on my Instagram, I think, from Brexit. I stayed up all night watching it, voted, of course. It was bizarre. Where did that come from? The women were more violent and nasty than the men. And the girl I was dating was shook to her core about it, bless her.

She's quite neutral on it. And I've never told anyone that story. I guess it's because it's not the greatest story. But it really, I left that pub thinking, hang on a minute, what's just happened there? You saw a change in society. Complete change in society. Normal people, friends, all gathered around that knew each other, and it just kicked off. That's it.

And, of course, critical race theory has been spoken of every second, every minute, of every day. Diversity, inclusion, inequality, and ESG, economic social governance. So the three Black Lives Matters, so you could argue there's three or four acronyms there. So even though you'd had this personal philosophy and your personal philosophy and your religion and your faith had always been there. did Turning Point UK give you the vehicle to almost go public with it? That's right, yeah. So those are the graphics that I saw. So I thought, right, well, there's...

You just thought I want to be part of this. This is it, 100%. That's it. And it changed your life? Forever. So without Charlie Kirk, there may be no Nick Tenko. It's so special. It's so difficult for me to talk about.

No Charlie means no turning point USA. It means no Jack Ross, means no turning point UK, means no Nick Tenconi. So I could have joined the Conservatives, which I went on to do. That was my party of choice. And then like most people, you're rejected from the Conservative Party. I begged them to stand. Blue-blooded Conservatives. They don't want you.

That's the one thing they don't want. The Tories, honestly. So yeah, there you go. I've never told that story before. It was disgusting, the way I was treated. Now, if men are attacking you, if men are attacking you, Dan, you're a big guy. Okay, well, we got ourselves a fight then. We can defend ourselves.

But the women were so violent. What can you do? And what can you do? of course, you're never, ever, ever going to push back against women. Of course not. Has it impacted your relationship, remote romantic relationship since? Like, has it been difficult for you being so political?

I mean, obviously Tommy Robinson has spoken about how his campaigning ended his marriage, for example. Yeah, so I bless you for bringing that up. And I definitely want to address that because I think the Patriots deserve to know. So at that time, that scene that was the big that that was there were lots of problems but that that was ending that relationship a massive factor and of course all these girls have

liberal parents as well liberal fathers as well be careful with this one yeah oh yeah he's bad news you know all of that good stuff so that's all fun in games so yes is the answer so we've got BLM tearing down statues we've got far left extremism which as conservatives again millennials that was very much under the surface we didn't know it was there. Transing kids in schools and the uni, what's the worldwide rollout of trans modeling for three year olds and up in schools. All of this was unknown to me. We were just working hard. I don't know what happened. 2020, it all becomes apparent. So, but a lot changed to. It was seismic. All of this may have been bubbling under, but come on, there was a, there was a

vast cultural change going on. A lot of it sparked by the BLM movement. 20, Dan. I don't know what the significance of 20 is, but you're right. So my social media posts were I was fully active as an activist online, but not at street level, because all the patriots don't know where to start with street level activism. It's simply not ingrained in the millennials to do this, whereas the left are taught it from birth, whether they're part of the socialist worker party, stand up to racism. Literally, it's handed down to them through the generations. So in a weird way, you were almost thinking, we need some of that attitude. on the right.

Absolutely. Which is what Turning Point was doing in the US with its campus tours. Who's leading it? How do I get involved? What happens? So an enormous amount of family members, I've never spoken to them since. They would probably never reach out to me. They might not speak to me.

So you lost relationships, even with family members, because of your involvement with Turning Point UK. So more... Well, your activism. Yeah, my activism, the stance, you name it. And linking to your point about relationships. relationships. Absolutely. This has been problematic. I cannot tell you how difficult it is. The chances of finding, obviously, your ideology, your values, your faith must match. Everyone knows that I'm,

my ideology is conservatism and I'm Catholic. And presumably you want marriage and children because that's such an important part of your philosophy. So all I've done is made it 10 times harder by choosing this path. And then what I would share with your audience, I think is very important is for all the vitriol and hatred and bigotry and nastiness that gets thrown at priests, which I think is disgusting, where it's not required or justified, I do speak with priests an awful lot, and I look at their lives, and now I see, there's a newfound respect. They've chosen a path which says, I'm on my own, my relationships with God.

And again, you mentioned Tommy, he's not the only one, I'm not the only one. All we've done is made it ten times harder to find that one, that one, who you, who, who, you will choose to be the mother of your children because that's what this is about. And it is a challenge and that's great, but it is gut-wrenching as well. But I will add on to this for the Patriots and all those young men who I was shaking hands with yesterday,

there is hope because as long as our enemies keep doing what they're doing, as long as the mainstream media and fake conservatives, conservative in name only, Cinos, the mainstream media, as long as all these liars, traitors and deceivers keep doing what they're doing, they are radicalising our male and female youth to get back to church to start having families. Good always comes out of bad. Well actually, I know we spoke about it

earlier, but we didn't see it. And given we're speaking about Charlie, even though this is so negative, sometimes I think you actually have to see it and people have to react to it. And so I just want to play that moment from earlier this week of Bob Villain, because it's It's one of the most disgraceful, I'm actually not exaggerating, Nick. It's one of the most disgraceful things I've ever seen in my life. But it also links into what you're saying because how on earth can good young women see this man and think this is my path? So I hope that this almost has the opposite effect than what this man hopes. But let's watch this.

I know it will be paying. I want to dedicate this next one to an answer. to the piece of shit of a human being the pronouns was were gut reaction watching that um uh i think that uh i don't think that uh i don't think that uh hmm i think that the the declaration of war has been made the the declaration of war has been made by the communists the islamists have all been told to stand down you'll see fewer and fewer terror attacks because as far as they're concerned they're winning and as far as they're concern they've won the media war over Gaza. So they've been told to stand down. All they've

got to do is outbreed us now. So the orders have changed, I think. So the unholy alliance, which as you know is Islamism and communism, the communists have taken up the mantle now. We'll be in the noughties and the tens, as you know, radical Islam, the terror threats, the atrocities. And you'll see that, I think you'll see that quiet and down now. And you'll see the rise, the continued rise of the far left, prominent members of the Socialist Worker Party who, are worth mentioning by name but who I know personally because they're my enemies and they don't like me very much they're calling Tommy Robinson yesterday a fascist a Nazi this is the rhetoric going right back to the start of what we're saying there their rhetoric is designed to produce

terrorist psychopaths and murderers so that was horrible to watch he will be judged for that and what I would say is is that it's difficult to say good comes out of bad to a lot of these points but if you every point we've covered turning point myself and jack have done everything to stop the radicalization of people we've tried everything to mediate and it hasn't worked because the left keep as long as they are enabled legitimized and normalized hence that video in context we must now let this play out it is it is a declaration of war as i said on friday night in my speech at the montgomery statute it's a declaration of war we must now we want peace but we must prepare for battle. We must prepare for war and we have a right to self-defense. No appeasement,

no mercy, no diplomacy and no surrender. That's what I say to that video. Just finally, how does this link in to free speech though? Because this is always an area I think where sometimes on our side of the argument, we can fail a little bit. So I also use the example of George Aberoni, you know, the dude had his ass owned at the Oxford Union by Charlie Kirk. And so he celebrates his death. It was vile. It was horrendous. And as you say, he will be judged.

However, Nick, where do you stand and where does UKIP stand on actually, if we are free speech fundamentalists, don't we almost have to allow this to play out? because obviously I've seen a lot of people, again, people who I respect, like the former Prime Minister Liz Truss, say he should lose his job. You know, there's been a lot of people with Bob Villains saying that is clear incitement to violence. And actually, I believe under the current law, he should clearly be jailed for that. But is that right?

Do you see what I'm saying? Like, is it right for us to say, actually, we've got to crack down on free speech from the left just because the establishment is cracking. down on our free speech. This is an area where the right fails miserably. You've read the room very well. And I think it was Lawrence's main campaign, wasn't it? Lots of people go after the free speech argument.

There's very little point in going after it as an argument. What I'm trying to explain to the Patriots is that a man's political ideology and his religion is what holds himself together as a man and his family and his duty towards society together. And a lot of patriots for so many decades and are working brothers and sisters, ordinary hardworking people, the very people that we are fighting for, ordinary folk, they aren't aware that our ideology is conservatism. So what does that mean? Limited government, small state, putting Christianity back into the heart of government, freedom of speech, which takes us on to this argument, right, so are we free speech absolutists? Well, what's free speech absolution? Free speech absolution means you can say whatever you want.

okay so by definition we're free speech absolutists right it's common sense now we're into the realms of consequences should there be consequences for words speaking and saying isn't the same as doing that's how we were raised right sticks and stones may break my bones words will never hurt me i'm saying this to the patriots this very complicated and problematic area i am asking for your vote i'm asking to be backed endorsed and supported I'm asking to be selected as leader to put me into the House of Commons to lead this country, the army, the police, our intelligence services, our public sector taxpayer-funded institutions, put me in charge and I will declare war on radical Islam, communism, Marxism. These are the things. Liberalism is a choice. There's no water to be cleared there. I just think they should be shunned and shamed for their cowardice, by the way. And on the right, if there's anything fringe that grows, anything extremist, we stand against that as well. Very small threat in the UK at the moment.

So I will declare war on those things. So let's take some specific examples like with Bob Villan. And he's done it before as well in concerts recently over the summer. Should he be consequenced for that? Should Ricky Jones be consequenced for what he said? Should Lucy Connolly have gone to prison? Now, we know Lucy shouldn't have gone to prison. Absolutely not.

Should Ricky Jones have gone to prison? We can't have it both ways. 100%. And in my interview with Lucy Connolly, her first interview since leaving prison, she got a lot of respect for actually saying she didn't believe that Ricky Jones should be in prison either. And I do worry about that. Sometimes it's very easy for us to get into that argument of, well, they're doing it to us. And don't be wrong, let's call out the hypocrisy, but let's not go down to their level.

So what I like about what you've said about that despicable man who we just want. on screen is he will be judged he is judged that doesn't mean we need to use the deep state to lock him up because if we empower the state even further we just know they're going to use it against us and it will be Nick Tenconi who's in prison next so what I want to say finally on this please very convoluted point about free speech we've got much bigger fish to fry and I think on the right social small C, socially conservative folk can agree that speech must be free and this, and freedom is absolute. But you've actually just, you know, made the most important point.

Focus on the real crime, because there's a hell of a lot of it. Focus on the crime going on in those mosques. Focus on the law and order issues which have made our biggest cities completely unsafe. Criminality. Yeah, not just for women, by the way. Focus on the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. I'm with you, actually. I think we have to stop this policing of speech.

But don't get me wrong, he will be judged. And he will go down in history because those words, you can't put words like that out into the world without experiencing a serious degree of karma. I think that this is, if I could do it in 15 seconds, the rhetoric we are we are at war i don't mean that lightly we are at war so radicalization will be met with radicalization law enforcement intelligence services can't stop that we've done everything as socially conservative people to stop that from happening we are it's the war is happening

it's not it's not the culture war anymore it's happening so free speech must be absolute but there's consequences for all these uh vile words that are used and all these slandering we're called Nazis so that we have a target on our back because these people want to kill what they think are Nazis, but you can't have it both ways. The judgment piece that you mentioned, that is, that is, that is, that is key. These people will be judged, but we aren't there yet and we aren't God. So we must prepare for battle because we are at war and we must, we have a right to defend ourselves. Nick Tenconi, leader of you, Kip, so great to have you here today for our uncancelled interview and to speak about the challenges facing the country but also

learn a lot about you which i think people will really enjoy and thank you so much for your company today uh it's really interesting actually being able to do these face-to-face interviews here and i'm very very excited about monday's show because i'm going to sit down for the first time with dapper laughs, who's otherwise known as Daniel O'Reilly, a comedian who is now taking on the political elites, but found himself cancelled by Emily Maitliss for a joke. So he will be with us on Monday's show. I'm really, really looking forward to it. I hope you have a wonderful weekend. A couple of quick notes. No Royal Uncanceled After Show until I'm back from CPAC Australia, but you can still sign up to our substack, www.outspoken.live. We will also return with Greatest Britain Union Jackass

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