Dan Wootton Outspoken - UNDERCOVER STING ON REFORM UK BY LEFTIST CHANNEL 4 NEWS COULD GET NIGEL FARAGE & AIDES JAILED

Episode Date: September 4, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Nigel Farage launches an astonishing hit back as his Reform UK party is plunged into its biggest ever crisis after a year-long leftist big money sting by eco-extremists on the leader’s two most senior advisers was sold to the state owned broadcaster Channel 4 in an astonishing bid to see senior Reform figures sent to jail. Nigel’s two most senior advisers – his surrogate son Dan Jukes and the party’s head of policy James Orr– have both been brutally booted as Farage does his best to save himself and pretend that it’s business as usual. You’re going to get honest coverage here on Outspoken today that the MSM will not provide you. Yes, the Channel 4 sting is morally questionable who have set out specifically to use big money and lies to destroy Nigel Farage and Reform UK. But also, yes, that sting has unfortunately exposed Reform UK as a dodgy and thuggish operation not even close to running the country today. The propagandists today tell you there’s nothing to see here, it’s an establishment stitch up and an MSM beat up. But on Outspoken you’ll hear analysis you won’t get anywhere in the MSM today with our Superstar Panel: Reform UK candidate and supporter Dr Roger J Gewolb, Restore Britain supporter and independent journalist Will Coleshill, top broadcaster and author of The Outsider on Substack Peter C Barnes, and Pink Ladies star Orla Minihane, who resigned this week as the spokesperson for the safety of women and children at Restore Britain. PLUS: The British Bashing Corporation is forced into a humiliating U-turn as they finally report on the invasion of the UK from Calais and are attacked in the process, as Nigel Farage and Jordan Bardella sign a historic deal to stop the boats. AND: Piers Morgan and Ben Shapiro in an explosive new fight that’s dividing the internet. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: We’re joined by royal YouTube sensation P-Dina to reveal why Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are facing a custody battle as Megyn Kelly, Meghan McCain and Donald Trump hit out and drop truth bombs. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken #uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Don't you wish you could just hit skip on the worst parts of your life? You know, the same way you can skip an ad? I get it. I'm Siaiaa and I live in Ice Cove. I've made some questionable decisions that didn't end up the way I planned. And today, I'm still figuring it out. Somehow things usually get worse before they get better. Apparently, that's how I roll.

So bundle up and come along for the bumpy ride. Stream a new episode of North of North Tuesdays on CBC Gem. Spent no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Woodham. This is outspoken episode number 577. So breaking right now, the Reform UK conference, which was already in crisis, has just been paused. We are now awaiting Nigel Farage to come to the stage and try and claim back some type of agenda after his Reform UK party has been plunged into its biggest ever crisis after a year long, leftist, big money sting by eco-extremists on the leader's two most senior advisers that was sold to the state-owned broadcaster channel 4 in an astonishing bid to see senior reform figures sent to jail.

Nigel Farage is celebrating tens of thousands of pounds of illicit foreign payments. What you're about to watch is a plot to break the law on party funding at the highest levels of reforming. UK. It would technically be a donation income. It's able to find out, am I going to tell you what, obviously you've got to let it's see more. So, reality is we can use something to get away with it. There's little clandestine projects are so valuable. And they take it right to the top. What is the fact of relatively modest investment? £30,000.

£30,000? And this, just weeks after he resigned amid a scandal over his finances. But now, Nigel's two most senior advisors who we saw there, Dan Jukes, he's like a surrogate's son and the party's head of policy, James Orr, have both been brutally booted, as Farage does his best to save himself and pretend its business as usual. It's more problematic is loose pub talk, including a couple of boasts that simply were not true. That our people were pushed and pushed and pushed into saying these things. The comments were injudicious at best. neither of these members authorized to act in that way. Accordingly, they've stepped down pending an

investigation. And I emphasize again, reform was broken no law. And we take compliance around donations very, very seriously. Okay, so today you are going to get honest coverage that the main three media are just not providing you. So let me be very clear. Yes, the channel for Sting is morally questionable. They set out specifically to use big money and lies to destroy Nigel Farage in Reform UK. But also, yes, that sting has unfortunately exposed Reform UK as a Mickey Mouse, dodgy, thuggish operation, not even close to being able to run this country. And they need to wise up, and Nigel needs to wise up. The propagandists will tell you there's nothing to see here. This is just an establishment stitch up. Look, I hate the mainstream media more than anyone else.

But this is not a stitch up. If you were to white label the policies of the current conservative party, Rupert Lowe's clown outfit, Rupert Lowe's bound shirts, and reform, you wouldn't find a huge amount of ideological difference. I think that's the message it needs to come out, that we are the original. I've taken legal advice, notably and importantly, from a senior lawyer, a Casey, who has confirmed that no rules, no laws have been broken. So we are very confident our position. You can say it's probably true

that, you know, reforms, enemies and critics will come for them. They will use every single tool in the book, every single stick they can grab to beat them. Yes, but reform knew that. Reform knew that. And this still happened. So as I say, the conference has just been paused. It looks like there is some type of dramatic rewrite

of Farage's speech going on behind the scenes. We're going to bring it all to you today. with analysis you simply will not get in the legacy media or the captured conservative media with our superstar panel. Reform UK candidate and supporter Dr Roger J. Giewel. Restore Britain supporter and independent journalist Will Coleshill. Top broadcaster, author of The Brilliant Outsider on Substack, Peter C. Barnes and Pink Ladies star Ola Minnehane,

who resigned this week as the spokesperson for the safety of women and children at Restore Britain. Also coming up on today's show, the British Bashing Corporation forced into a humiliating new turn as they finally reported on the invasion of the UK from Calais and are attacked in the process as Nigel Farage and Jordan Baudela sell a sign a historic deal to stop the boats. And Pierce Morgan and Ben Shapiro in an explosive, and let's be honest, very entertaining new fight we need this Friday. It's dividing the internet. I will let you be the judge. Then in the Royal Uncanceled After Show over on subset, we're joined by Royal YouTube Sensation P. Diner to reveal why Prince Harry and Megan Markler facing a custody battle as Megan Kelly,

Megan McCain and Donald Trump all hit out and drop truth bombs. You can sign up to watch at www.outspoken.live. Also, breaking right now from the US, courtroom chaos as the judge in the Lindsay Clancy trial declares a mistrial after jurors failed to reach a verdict following seven days of deliberations, which, let's be honest, have stopped America and the world. But then only moments later, he gave Clancy's lawyer one hour to appeal his ruling. So it looks like we may finally have at least some type of resolution in the Lindsay Clancy case while we are on air today as well.

We will bring it to you. We're also going to reveal the winner of the worst Britain in the world this week. You can vote right now in the post tab on YouTube. This is when we put your union jackass winners from across the week head to head. On Monday, it was Sadiq Khan. On Tuesday, Slippery Stama, on Wednesday, Mad Miliband, and on Thursday, Nina Mishkov. Do you know who I want to hear from most today, though? You!

So do keep your super chats coming and I will read out the feedback at the end of the show. But now, big breaking news day, let's go. So Reform UK is in crisis. The propagandists will tell you otherwise, but that is not the truth. My senior sources tell me the mood at the conference in Birmingham is toxic, with a growing sense of fury, including from Nigel Farage, about how this lifter sting was able to happen in the first place. What you are not going to get here on outspoken is propaganda. I'm going to show you what you need to see without having to watch Channel 4 News, which trust me is the most

dishonest program in the UK. Channel 4 News is run by activists and not. journalist and I say that right from the off. But two things are undoubtedly true here in my opinion. Channel 4 has broadcast a morally questionable undercover sting undertaken by hard leftist eco-warriers who have set out specifically to use big money and lies to destroy Nigel Farage and Reform UK. But that sting has unfortunately exposed Reform UK as a Mickey Mouse, dodgy, thuggish operation, not even close to running the country today. The propagandists will tell you there's nothing to see here. This is an establishment stitch up. This is an MSM beat up. Well, if that is the case, how the hell do you explain that Nigel Farage has just axed his two

closest allies? Dan Jukes is a man I know well. He literally is Nigel. He is an extension of Nigel. He is by his side every day. He has been right through from the Brexit party to G.B. News to Reform UK. He is like his surrogate son. And we see in the sting that James Orr is one of only a handful of people, one of three people, he says, to report directly to Nigel. He is as senior in the party as you get. So I'm sorry that some of you will be angry. Reformers and Farajas will say I have an agenda, but this is very much a bombshell story. And Richard Tice, Lee Anderson, Zia Yusuf, they all know it themselves. And Channel 4 knows it. You could hear the orgasmic tone as Christian Guru Murthy opened his show with the bombshell just as Reform began its conference.

the Reform UK plot to break the law on party funding. Nigel Farage filmed undercover celebrating secret new foreign donations. What is it? It was a matter of the business. It should be £30,000. Yeah, that is it? He was under investigation for taking a £5 million gift.

He'd resigned as an MP to force a by-election, saying nothing he was accused of was against the law. But a short while after, Nigel Farage and members of his top team were discussing illicit funding for Reform UK from a new foreign donor. Good evening. It was a plot by senior figures in Reform UK to break the law on foreign donations and keep funding secret from the public and the electoral commission and it's all been caught on secret cameras. And to Guru Murthy's delight, he revealed that reform had been utterly fooled. What Reform UK did not know was that the people behind the US companies,

who paid the money were actually an undercover team posing as a wealthy American and his UK-based son. After the three polls had been published and paid for and a much larger donation had been floated, Nigel Farage met the two men he thought were donors in his cracking constituency. And then they unveiled the first snippets of the footage they claim has Reform UK bang to rights. to donate directly to this up to this point. But I was thrilled, you know, to pick up the tab for the polls that you had had admission. That was, right, and the third poll was, boom.

In other meetings, senior figures in Reform UK described the importance of keeping such arrangements secret. Here's James Orr, reforms had a policy. He's able to find out. I'm going to tell you what, obviously, you don't have left. was he more. So it was all looking so sensational until he explained who conducted the undercover investigation. The undercover work was conducted by Verbatin, an investigative group that was founded by journalists from the Centre for Climate Reporting. After being approached by Verbatin

with the findings, the Channel 4 News Investigations team has checked and verified them. We did not pay for the polling and paid no money to Verbatin or any associated country. According to official records, none of the payments for the polling have yet been disclosed by Reform UK to the Electoral Commission. And most of the relevant reporting deadlines have passed. Tonight, a former chief executive of the Electoral Commission, Bob Posner, has seen the key findings and said there should now be a criminal investigation. Our chief correspondent, Alex Thompson, has this exclusive report on reform's secret donations plot. So just to be clear, Thompson took the footage from these hard leftists and then claimed it all stacked up.

Hello, who are you? Very, very good to see it. Hello. You, you're going to see it. Yeah, very good. For the past year, a team from verbatim, a group of investigative journalists has been undercover in the heart of Reform UK. Posing as super-rich donors with American money.

And we've been given exclusively. exclusive access to their footage which we've verified. Gilles with a champagne top. Nigel Farage is celebrating tens of thousands of pounds of illicit foreign payments. What you're about to watch is a plot to break the law on party funding at the highest levels of Reform UK. It would technically be a donation in common.

It's able to find out. Am I going to tell you what, obviously you've got to let it? Obviously, you're going to be able to do so. The reality is we can use it a little clandestine projects are so valuable. And they take it right to the top. But in fact, it's relatively modest in this. 30,000 pounds. Amazing.

Amazing. And this, just weeks after he resigned amid a scandal over his finances. And this has completely derailed Nigel Farage's conference. Let's head live to Birmingham as he arrives on stage and bring in our superstar panel, Peter C. Barrow. all a mini Hain, Will Coles Hall, and Roger J. Giewold. So, Peter, what do you believe has been going on behind the scenes today? This speech has now been delayed for more than an hour.

Your colleague at Talk TV, David Bull, who is hosting the conference, got up and stage and said we are having to pause. Clearly, something being completely rewritten after this channel for Sting. Yeah, thanks for having me. Dan. This is quite interesting really because conference speeches are huge for most party leaders, but this one for Farage in particular is

unbelievably important, even before this story actually broke, because let's be real, they've had a very difficult summer, they had the clacted by-election, they've had the slump in the polls, it's been one thing after another. They needed this to go off perfectly, and even from the first day, without this kind of revelation, it's been a bit of a disaster, but

behind the scenes there, it will be somewhat of the first 15 minutes of saving private Ryan. People will be running around having no idea what is going on, shouting at each other and somebody trying to find a pen to rewrite this desperately. Because unfortunately, this has completely changed what reform need to say now. They need to decide, are they going to go down the full mea culpa, open up the doors, let everybody in and, you know, see the books and all the rest of it? Or are they going to go down what I think they're more than likely going to do

and play victim? Are they going to then say, oh, it's Channel 4? or it's the establishment, it's this, that, and the other. We've dealt with our people. We're having an internal investigation and that, and hopefully that will put it all to bed. I've got to be honest, if they go down that second route, that's just going to be a disaster for them.

Because, I mean, like you said, Dan Jukes is Nigel Farage. As long as I've known, Dan, they basically are the same person. And, you know, James Orr directly reports to Nigel and is the head of policy there. You know, these are not small figures in local branches. These are big players in the party. And Nigel sat next to both of them in the documentary. I'm just going to quickly interrupt.

G.B News is reporting that counter-terror police did not allow Nigel Farage on the stage due to a security concern. David Bull is now up. Let's listen to what he's saying. I've worked with since 2019. He said to me, I'd like to make a television program. And we did a pilot in my studios in Suffolk. And I called it Farage in the garage.

And he didn't like that. That became Farage Live. That's how he ended up doing his television program. Nigel Farage is the best political campaigner I have ever met. I know him extremely well. He is a man who is determined to change this country for the better. And let me tell you something else. He has an uncanny ability to identify key political issues affecting this country

before anyone else understands or recognizes their importance. Okay, so I'm just going to interrupt briefly before we get Nigel Farage on stage. The Sun newspaper now also reporting Roger Giewelb that reform news sources are saying the reason for Nigel Farage's delayed speech is that counterterrorism cops won't let him on the stage. Seems there's been a security scare. Roger, quite astonishing, given this conference open this morning with Nigel Farage paying to your colleague, my friend, Anne Whittickham, who was assassinated just weeks ago. Yeah, I mean, there has certainly always been a serious security threat around Nigel.

But, of course, he's, I mean, I did program with him at one point for a GV News and sent him afterwards, you know, you really got to beef up your security, which he's, I think, certainly done. And what's going on now, as I said to your producer, I really haven't made my mind up yet because there are so many, yeah, it's Channel 4, there are so many elements of long-term entrapment that one can see here. And then on the other hand, if an American, well, any non-UK. father wants to give his eligible U.S. children money to donate to a political party, is that illegal? Well, seemingly not. So this is a difficult one, and it's very easy to say that, you know, like his friend Donald Trump, they will do anything, including violence, which is why the

counterterrorism people, anything to get rid of Nigel and keep him from moving forward. And then on the other hand, there are all the allegations of slees and the rest. It's very hard for me to make up my mind. But, I mean, I do know Nigel, and I don't think he would do something as obviously stupid and simplistic to get in what are actually relatively small amounts of money in the scheme of things here. So I'm kind of leaning pretty well over the 50% mark that this is. is something of a setup to get him. Will Coleshill, is there any type of explanation for this Channel 4 News sting?

My instinct says no, I think that they're panicking. I think that the delays here, you've seen the same thing used in Clacton when he didn't go to the announcement of him becoming an MP for the second time. It was security concerns. Now, that seemed to fall apart last time I was on the show. we were talking about this thing. I think they're probably throwing every single thing they've got to try and work out what their narrative is going to be in delay.

Now, being a journalist editing and also being in politics, my instinct tells me that the things that they're saying and how they're said, my instinct says that they've been caught. What I think we need to focus on is what is the severity of this? And fundamentally, why are they going to American donors? I think a lot of British donors are actually terrified, Dan. I think there's a climate of fear in this country. And I think, obviously, this is disproportionately used against the right.

Channel 4 is owned by the government. It is a public service broadcaster, apparently. It was set up with British taxpayers' money. Why aren't they doing this as a Green Party? Why aren't they doing this to the Labour Party? They know that if you're a big businessman and you decide that you're going to put money towards Reform UK and you, let's say, you invest in property, suddenly your planning permission might not come through.

If you own some sort of taxi company, suddenly they get these licensed. We know that we're not a democracy, Dan. We know that we haven't been in a democracy for a long time. I'm just going to interrupt you, Will, just before Farage gets on stage, just to say there has been some type of security breach of the stage. Look at this. We believe Greenpeace, which is quite astonishing, given they were part of this Channel 4, Sting,

have been able to get to the stage. this is while Richard Tice was speaking, and you can see there that signs is collect the 5 million, burn the planet, and if you see there, I can show you here, there has been some type of breach. But let's go and listen. Farage is now being allowed on stage to talk at Reform UK.

Ola will hear from you after his speech. So this is probably going to be one of the most important speeches of Nigel Farage's career. Reform UK in crisis, he's just sacked his two most seats. your aides facing a police investigation as well. Let's listen to see how he intends to deal with this. Certainly, he is loving the attention. It has been a long walkthrough. So any type of idea that this was going to be a Nigel Farage resignation speech now seems to be well and truly off the agenda.

But certainly, this was meant to be a speech about Reform UK's first 100 days in government. It is about sleaze and scandal and an undercover sting and about who Farage has surrounded himself with. Let's see how he deals with it. I'm sorry we were delayed. It was a security alert and I was told for security reasons I couldn't take the stage. That's why we have a delay. So I decided instead to come among you and sing and dance. And it worked out pretty well, I think, in the end.

We have another year. and another Prime Minister. Can you believe it? The seventh in ten years. I mean think about it. We used to laugh at the Italians, not any longer. But what clearer sign could there be that Britain is broken that even our politics doesn't work anymore? So I wonder, what will this new Prime Minister Andy Burnham actually do? Well, he keeps saying, that for 40 years we've been headed in the wrong direction in every way. We need

more state control. We need more public ownership. And he sounds like the most radical Prime Minister in decades. And yet his Chancellor, his Chancellor John Healy says this is a continuity government oh we've got a screamer.

We've got a screamer. We've got a screamer. We've got a screamer. What do they say? Oh, young girls. You look like she was going to do herself an injury, didn't she? Well, there's a saying I've got for that. You know what it is, don't you? Boring, boring. I suspect the truth is there'll be very little difference in this government to the one that went before. That is my suggestion, although he does have a big solution. It's called number 10 north. And what does that mean? It means bigger guys.

government, more taxes and of course more failure. Now I stood on this very stage in September 2024 just after our breakthrough in a general election and I said Starmer's government will not go the full term. I said very clearly that I believed that financial circumstances would force Labor into a spring 2027 election. And you know what? I stand by that. I believe there will be an election next spring.

And I believe there must be a general election because Andy Burnham has no mandate. The Messiah, without a mandate, we deserve a general election on who continues to govern this country. So at this conference, we say, enough of all the broken promises, enough of all the U-turns. We need a government that actually delivers on its promises, a government that restores trust in the entirety of the voting

system, a government that is honest with the country and admits that Britain is broken and Britain needs reform. And we're the only people capable of doing it. The Tories had 14 years in power and failed absolutely miserably. Andy Burnham says, he needs 10 years. At this conference we tell you that in the first hundred days of government we will make fundamental

changes to the way this country has run we will keep our pledges and I will hold those ministers to account and if in a hundred days they have not delivered on their promises I will sack them and replace them with somebody else with the courage to do it.

Since we were last here in September let's remind ourselves and one of two of the ups and downs of this year. May the 7th this year was massive. We wiped out the Conservative Party in East Anglia. We smashed some East Anglians there clearly. And we smashed the Labour Party in the Midlands. And let's not forget the huge strides we made in Scotland and Wales.

We campaign on a slogan. Vote reform. Get Stama out. a promise made and a promise kept. We have gone on to build the biggest party membership in the country. We now have over 2,500 elected councillors. We are in control of over 30 councils, and I was especially pleased the other week when Britain's most famous living detective,

Colin Sutton, was elected as our police and crime commissioner in Norfolk. That's all right. Okay, so it looks like there's been another disruption during Nigel Farage's speech. Quite astonishing the level of security scares. Greenpeace being able to invade the stage too. I think maybe next year we'll put the price of the tickets up, don't you? This time last year, I was the leader of the party, Richard Tice was the deputy. That was the entirety of our front bench.

A lot has changed this year. Robert Jenrick now acting as our shadow chancellor. Zia Yusuf acting as our spokesman and home affairs. Suella Braberman, skills, education, universities. Richard Tice, business and energy, who you've just heard from. And we have in Dan Thomas, the opposition leader in Wales. And in Scotland we have Malcolm Offord, leading Scotland. Malcolm, have a go if you're hard enough, offered.

And in both Wales and Scotland, of course, we have full shadow cabinets. We've also been joined this year by the 25-year member of Parliament for Romford, Andrew Rosendell, who I think was reform before reform was even founded. And since last year, Danny Kruger has come in a man that has worked in number 10 in government to help us to help us prepare for government this time last year I said on this very stage that our biggest weakness was that we lacked experience we didn't we didn't have anybody who'd been there on the front lines so another protest in now interrupting Nigel Farage's speech when there was meant to be such a focus on security

the benefits of a university education folks Nigel has his lines Tell us, love. Is it sociology, is it? Yeah, I bet it is. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Nothing's fine for Nigel today, let's be honest. Now we have frontline experience. Now we have frontline people speaking for us in the UK, Scotland, Wales, England. But we've more to do. There are more big jobs to fill. And I'm looking and working on defence, health and the other areas. get there. We will get there soon. But we've also lost somebody very, very important to us. And I thought the tributes, at least I hope and believe the tributes that were paid to Anne Whedicum this morning at the start of this conference were correct and appropriate.

And we missed you terribly. May God bless your soul. And we're busy. We're busy restructuring the party. We're busy raising money. We're interviewing general election candidates four days a week. And believe me, when that election comes, we will be ready. And when that election comes, we will fight to win. No question. But since May the 8th, and May the 8th was the day, the establishment woke up and thought, oh dear, oh dear,

these people aren't just a flash in the pan. These people are not going to go away. and we have been the subject of a highly coordinated campaign of attacks. In a sense, it's not really surprising. If you think about it, two parties have dominated British politics for over 100 years. And around them is a whole ecosystem of membership of the House of Lords, the issuance of government contracts, heads of quangos and so much else. a whole ecosystem around the century old two-party system,

and we come along and threaten that, they were never going to come out with a tray of gin and tonics, I promise you. But I promise you, we will not be distracted by any of this. We are absolutely determined in what we're doing. And our opponents are so conniving, and I include both Labour and Conservative in this, they tried to deny the vote to 5 million people on 7th of May this year, in some cases,

for the second year in a row. And it was reformed by pushing that legal action that won back the right to vote for 5 million people. And then statement after statement in the House of Commons from Labour ministers trying to change the rules on donors, treating successful British businessmen, have gone out around the world and made a huge success of their lives, actually calling them in the Commons malign actors. Now, talking of money, and this thing is not always easy. You will, you will.

Oh, dear. It's all right. So, I mean, this is a joke now. That one went a bit more quietly, didn't he? Constant interruptions to Raj's speech. You have noticed today, and by the way, the timing of today is no coincidence, is it? The fact this happened on the first day of a reform conference is no coincidence. So you'll have noticed we've experienced a little local difficulty today. A foreign-funded group of hard left activists with a long history.

Indeed, a group in the past strongly criticised by the US Congress for their methods have for over a year and at huge financial cost targeted figures in reform. Make no mistake, this was an exercise, a prolonged exercise, in entrapment. I want to be clear, the party has done nothing wrong. The party has taken no illegal money. The party has taken no money. That's important. I was asked today about the polling.

Let me be clear on that too. The polls in question were not commissioned by reform. The results were out there in the full public domain and there is no issue. What is problematic is loose pub talk, including a couple of boasts that were made that simply were not true. But some of the comments made by two of our team were injudicious at best. Neither of these men was authorized to act in this way. Accordingly, they've stepped down pending an investigation. I repeat, reform has broken no law.

We take compliance extremely seriously. And ask yourself, why is all of this happening? Anyone got a clue why it's happening? Because they're scared of us. That's why it's happening. And in my case, I've broken no laws, abuse no public money. I haven't even got a motor home, believe me you me.

I'm accused of a non-declaration of a personal gift, a personal gift that might just keep me alive. Might just keep me alive. But I couldn't wait forever. I couldn't wait for six months or a year for this committee to decide. So I said, right. right, I tell you what, the voters of Clacton, they can be my judge, let the people of Clacton decide, and they answered with an emphatic win, and I thank them very much indeed.

So today we make the 100-day pledge, and we're taking on a Conservative Party who failed on all of their promises and reasonable expectations, a party who put net zero into law, a party who earlier released 160,000 prisoners, a party who gave us mass migration on a scale the country has never seen. And a Boris wave, a Boris wave given that the vast majority that came don't work and will never work that will cost us hundreds of billions of pounds over the decades to come. And I would argue it's a disaster for which they simply should not be forgiven.

Okay, we're going to come back to Nigel Farage if there are any new developments at Reform UK conference, but of course, they were the key lines, weren't they? This was loose, pub, talk, all a mini-hane. And in the process, Nigel has just thrown his surrogate son to the wolves, his closest advisor to the wolves.

I don't like that. I'm a guy all about loyalty. And I guess he realizes how inevitable it is that he is going to have to save himself. Yeah, I mean, those boys have been lambs to the slag. They've been sacrificial lambs, haven't they?

Right. And unfortunately, it would seem that in politics there's always a sacrificial lamb, Dan. But from my point of view, I look at this conference and I see, I was at the conference last year, I see a very, very big difference in Nigel's persona, in the messaging, in

everything. He looks rattled. He looks, he's a reading. Normally, he's very charismatic and very theatrical. He's standing there. He's reading off a script. I think he's scared. I think he's worried. And I think, you know, ultimately, you can say it's loose pub talk. You can say you was stitched up, you can say all these things. But if you've been caught on camera agreeing and accepting something, then you are guilty of doing so. So look, but again, what concerns me the most? And I don't want to bash Nigel, because I think we're so past bashing each other at this point. What I do want to say is that we should not have somebody standing at a conference who is asking and pleading to be the next prime minister already trying to.

to defend his actions. That is the most concerning thing. You know, if someone is the PM and they're standing up and saying, okay, blah, blah, blah, and trying to negotiate with the public, that's one thing. But to do it prior to even getting into power

does not bode well. And the fact is, I and many millions of others, I am sure, are getting to the point where we are, I am losing the will to live with this, the right of politics. everybody is fighting. It is an absolute shit show.

Excuse my language, but it really is. We are fighting each other, and all that is happening is we are handing another term to labour, and God forbid the Greens. And that has to terrify everybody. We've got a rape epidemic. We've got the economies in the toilet. We've got open borders and being invaded every day.

And what's happening? The right are fighting each other, fighting internally, you know, exposing themselves to be scandal. It's just, it's heartbreaking. It's absolutely breaking my heart. And I'm sure that millions of people across this country feel the same way. Well, I'm sure they do. I'm absolutely sure they do.

But the problem that we've got right now, Peter Jukes, Peter C. Barnes, I'm thinking about Dan Jukes, is that Dan Jukes is not just someone who can be dismissed. Right? Like, as Stephen Swinford of the Times says, he's dismissed Dukes and or as a couple of contractors who have said some injudicious things. But he says it is worth reflecting how integral they have been to the Reform UK project, particularly Jukes, who has been by his side for two decades. The two men are so close that they are often viewed as more like father and son than colleagues. Peter, is this line going to stand? No. Brutely, it's not. It's not going to work because of who Dan actually is.

It's like you said, he's a surrogate son. But I couldn't help but notice that in that speech, there was a little bit of a wobble in Nigel's voice when he was talking about it. I think you could tell this actually hurt Nigel very personally. And I'm not surprised, you know, those two, I think he said father and son. But the line contractor, I remember reading that the first time and I thought, wow, that is brutal language.

Because I very much remember Nigel Farage saying, I stand behind my people. I don't leave people out on the battlefield. I, you know, I'm all about loyalty. while that seemed to last about 30 seconds after this documentary was released. And I think that's very telling as to how serious this genuinely is. For them to lose those two people in the same day over this, tells you that this is not just a little bit of a kind of leftist establishment attack.

That's just, by the way, the leftist establishment attack is just the other side playing the game. And you know, reform have to realize that you can't just turn up on the field and then be aghast that there's another team playing and that they also would like to win. I think that's what reform have to get into their heads. But you're right, Dan, this is so brutal for reform because they have built reform. You know, Dan is the gatekeeper to Nigel. If you want to get to Nigel, you go through Dan.

Everybody knows that. But yeah, in a way, I feel sorry for Nigel on this one, but then this is all of their own making. I've been saying this for nearly two years. Everything that happens to Reform UK is not because of another shadowy government. It's about the fact that they didn't protect themselves. We all knew the blob was going to come. and it arrived and it took them down very, very easily.

That's the more concerning thing about this. I mean, it's like a house of cards. It's actually quite laughable how weak they've been defending themselves. And they retreat to victimhood. And, you know, Nigel plays the safety card every single time. Don't get me wrong. That's a serious issue. But there's only so many times you can start using that line

before you start to look like you are exploiting what is happening. And I think, I don't think this is going to go down very well. Because let's be real, what exactly was just announced in this speech? What's actually been announced at the conference? This was meant to be the proof, Roger, that we were going to take over government and that we were going to have a great 100 days of government. And indeed, it has been completely hijacked. But, Roger, I do want to ask you about the personal side of this.

I mean, I'm just looking at the live chat, Juliet Johnson. Hello, Juliet, saying, Farage Sacking Dan Jukes, of all people, shows how disloyal Nigel is. There is no one, Roger, that this man will not throw under the bus. Oh, my God. And that is a problem, isn't it, for Nigel? Listen, I think I'd rather be ironing my shirt than listening to this cobbler's from all of you. I mean, come on, really. I mean...

Well, you're not wearing a shirt, Roger Darling, are you? You're wearing a T-shirt. You could have dressed up. Yeah, since the Tories and now this government, I can't afford a shirt, Orla. I mean, this is politics. For God's sake, the two of you are operating. your own personal agenda, well, all of you, against reform. Roger, I have no agenda against reform.

I have absolutely no agenda against reform. Let me finish. Let me finish, please. I mean, you know, this is politics to say, oh, my God, as you said, oh, my God, look at these disagreements. I mean, show me an election where this doesn't happen anywhere in the world from Myanmar to Pluto, for God. I mean, and politics here.

compared to America is like a tea party. You always say that, Roger. I do, and it is. This is standard stuff. And oh my God, Nigel's voice quivered. No, I don't think Nigel is suffering.

I mean, I'm sorry. Can I disagree with you? Just let Will Coles Hill come in and then you can go back. I didn't interrupt any of you. No, no, no, no, but just let Will comes in, come in and then you can respond. Let me just finish and then you can say your peace, please.

please. I'm just saying this is all bog standard politics. Anywhere in the world, it's perfectly normal. You're all trying to put an interpretation on it, that something terrible is it said, what is terrible is the threats of violence, the behavior of the extremists in this, but it was all expected. And finally, and then I'm done, for a politician to sack some of his closest protegees, his surrogate children, his greatest supporters is hardly unusual when they do the wrong thing. They go off and try to help him and do something untoward. They have to go. Okay, Luke Cole Hill coming.

I've seen Dan Jukes in that action. Basically, I describe him as Nigel Farage's other brain. I've seen them in Plactant. Nigel takes orders from Dan Jukes. That's how trusting their relationship is. When Danjuk says, go here, Nigel goes there. When he says, say this, he says this. When he says, stand over there.

And he says, do this, do that. I don't agree with that word. And in glove together. We have made your point. Roger, you've got a little. We'll get a word in. And then you can come back. I think the only reason that Farage has really got rid of him is because he knows that they've got them.

They've got them. There's no way out of this. Dukes is going down. All's gone, right? And all we know, well, if you, if you, if you pay attention to where all has been maneuvering, he's been popping up in Hungary, he's got connections to the Hungarians,

he's got connections across Europe, and he's got connections to the Americans as well, especially with regards to CPAC. So I want to see how much further this goes with American money. Now, what I will give you, Roger, and I'll definitely give you this. You wouldn't see this. You, you, he has connections with Americans.

He's got connections with CPAC. What's wrong with having a connection to see how far goes? What I will give you, what I will give you on your side of him. side is, like I was saying earlier, there is a climate of fear. If you happen to be right-wing and a big businessman in this country, you have a lot to lose. They can take all of your money, they can destroy all of your businesses, because a lot of the time you don't just have cash in the bank, it's all in assets, it's all in businesses, and some of it may be leveraged, you may be in

debt to some degree. If you lose a massive contract, that could sink you and lose everything. This is why a lot of people don't want to go on the register and support reform. Meanwhile, we're talking about all of this with foreign money. Foreign money, foreign money is flooding into many, many political parties because you have a bunch of paper citizens, foreigners, but British passports who are on the electoral register or even possibly not on the electoral or possibly not even citizens who are able to vote in this country, giving money to the Labour Party, giving money to live them, to the Greens. We have loads of foreigners in this country with passports able to give money to all of these other parties. So I sympathise.

I sympathise that it's an entirely corrupt system when you've got British people, overseas, whose ancestors come from this country, who want to donate and want to save their own homeland. I'm just going to quickly interrupt. Will Roger, hold up, hold up, because I'm just going to tell you some breaking news. Nigel Farage has just committed to lead Reform UK to the next general election. He has also said that Parliament will sit for 24 hours a day, seven days a week, if necessary, when they clear a national emergency on day one. But what I do just, want to show you quickly is some of what has been going on inside the conference hall. So we saw that chaos during the speech.

Well, Christopher Hope, who's the political editor of G.B. News. And I mean, this is terrible. It's just been knocked to the ground as part of this chaos inside the venue. Look at this. So let's just take one more look at that, because you can see Christopher Hope in the middle of the screen with his GB News mic, and he goes into trying to speak. from the prejudice and boom. He's pulled to the ground.

It's like WWE inside that conference hall. I mean, this is a total mess. Why did I always miss out? Last year was so boring. This looks brilliant. Will, I can't disagree with a lot of what you said, but what is the actual point you're making? The point I'm making is although I sympathise,

I think they're taking this very seriously. I don't think Farage would cut these two people off, especially Dan Jukes, unless he knew that Dan Jukes was going down. He didn't want to do it. He didn't want to do it. Last night, he said that this was a hoax, and they released a big, long propaganda interview with James Orr inside the Reform UK conference venue.

He had the 100 days. There was a move to try and save Dan Jukes and James Orr. Oar overnight the decision was made. No, we have to jettison them. And at that point, Will, that's when he moved to entrapment. So he went from it being a hoax to it being entrapment. Now, well, I think that change in language is important. I completely agree.

I mean, when he was talking about it being an entrapment and talking about the backgrounds of these people, I mean, just look at the footage, look at the footage, listen to all of the little sayings, oh, don't get caught, get away with this, etc., etc. I knew what they were doing, I believe, was against the rules, and they went ahead with it anyway. Exactly.

Now, do I sit with them? Just, Roger, let all are coming. Let all are coming. Look, entrapment is, you know, it's all very well and good. But to be trapped, one must take the baits. That's the point. You know, you can't just say it was entrapment and then go, oh, and claim to be a victim. I'm afraid if you are willing to take the bait and you get caught, there is only so many times that you can call entrapment.

Men get, you know, you get these honey traps with women. They still go and get involved. Exactly, all right? But it is a rigged system. You must admit that you have a lot of money. coming from foreigners in this country, going to political parties, saying, anyway, you've got people being put on trial,

you've got people's businesses being destroyed, people getting kicked out of their jobs, left, right and centre. I'm on trial, I think it's six days. I'm on trial on the 10th, right, for going out and, you know, saying mass migrations destroying Britain. So this is the fate of this country.

But, Will, isn't that the point, though, two things can be true. Two things can be true here. Sorry, that was my point earlier. We are in such a state. This country is in such a state. state and anybody, I mean, put anybody on the right, I don't care who you are, what party you are, what fringe you are, we are all under attack, we are all going to lose. And that is what is so

tragic about what we're seeing unfold. It is just an absolute shambles. And I'm not sure how this is going to end. Peter C Buns, Roger, hold that thought because I'm going to bring you in in one second, but Peter C Barnes, there is, and we cannot deny this. I know Roger will deny this and I will allow him to do that. But you know, I know, we cover this party close. and we cover this party as critical friends. And you know a lot of the people, you work with these people at GB News and Talk TV. But the Civil War within Reform UK

has now just gone to another level, Peter, because what you've got is all of the Tories have come in, the Genrex, the Danny Kruger's saying, this is our moment. You're an unprofessional, thuggish mob, and we're going to take over. And guess who just launched his leadership campaign today? Mr. Zia Yusuf, posting on X,

literally within hours of this scandal breaking. This is my story with a professional video. He's trying to make himself out as the new sort of David Cameron with Tim Montgomery. This is how messy it is, Roger, in your party. Tim Montgomery, who's now been suspended, writing, the sooner Nigel Farage realizes this man is running to replace him as leader the better. And B.C. Barnes, I know you probably disagree with me on this,

but I have said right from the start, Yusuf has a plan to become the first Muslim Prime Minister of the United States. the United Kingdom. And I think all of this mess today just takes him one step closer to that. I actually think you're correct, Dan. I think Zia uses has been behind a lot of the problems that reform UK, either intentionally or unintentionally, when he called himself the greatest, what, electoral weapon. Well, he is somewhat of a weapon and, you know, that's about something which he was rather quiet. I think what's very interesting listening to everybody here is, people have to remember what the Electoral Commission actually said in response to a lot of this.

It's not just whether somebody accepted the money. It's the fact that any attempt to circumvent the rules is also against the rules itself. That's what they've said, that that's where the police investigation is going to go. So it's not about the entrapment about whether they took the money or not. It's the conversations, as Will rightly says, that they knew what they were talking about and how to get around it. That is the killer. That's what's killed them dead here. It's not the kind of the Channel 4 aspect or anything like that.

It's the fact that they've openly said, don't get caught. We know how to get around this. And what Jukes, he said, when he said, we've done this with other donors, I mean, that was his death sentence. Well, isn't the issue, though, Peter, as well, those names have been bleeped out. Well, I'm sorry, the mainstream media now can spend all their time trying to work with this hard leftist outfit, trying to name all of those people who were bleeped out. But, Roger, I want to speak to you.

Who's to say they haven't done it already? Well, yeah. They've been waiting. Who's to say they haven't done it already? Who's to say it's not in the works? So there's day two, day three, day four, day five. Any time, any moment. But Roger, I just want to ask you about the personalities of this, Roger.

I mean, I'm looking at the live chat. Lili, 1962, calls Zia Yusuf Zia Tekia. A whole load of people don't trust him for different reasons. Roger, I don't trust him. I think he's practicing Tikia, absolutely. But why on earth today would he launch this glossy video about himself? When your party is in crisis, the dudes are mad. madman.

Yeah, I got to say, first of all, that I think it's inappropriate to refer to Takia, which is the... Why? Why? Because it's got nothing to do with Islam. He happens to be a Muslim, but politicians do say things that they don't actually believe for all sorts of reasons. It's a bit of a... Have you asked him about the extent of his Muslim? faith because he has refused to answer any questions in detail about it, certainly to me. No, I'm, I'm, I'm, that's a different subject and I haven't addressed that. Well, then how do you know whether he's practicing to Kia or not? You don't. No, but to

You're just telling me off. You're telling me off. You're saying I'm un-PC. I'm telling you off. I've known you long enough that I can dare tell you off once in a while. You can, but you're wrong. Well, I may be, but yes, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm not the greatest fan of Zia Yusuf. No. And I think that Orla is very perspicacious in picking out the zeitgeist of the moment where he jumps in there like that. I don't particularly like that either. So there's all sorts of stuff to talk about. But the main thing is that this conference is going on. And like Trump's, it's been disrupted by threats of violence and all this, especially by groups that claim to be saving.

the planet and yet they're yelling, burn the planet. You know, I mean, it's just the... Oh, that's scum. The total scum. And it's actually terrible that the security was so lax. I do just want to ask, though, Peter, about Nigel Farage himself, because something that has been lost in all of this is a quite astonishing report on woke ITV news last night. But it was by Romilly Weeks, and I'm going to give her her due, right? She is a Westminster veteran. She's not the type of person who does the fake news. Okay, she's not a Robert Peston type of person. And she actually reported last night that over the summer, Nigel Farage had been seriously

considering quitting as Reform UK leader. Watch this. I understand over the summer, Nigel Farage was considering whether he really wanted to continue as leader. He decided to put all of that behind him and press on with a new start at this conference. So this really couldn't have come at a worse time. So Peter, do you really think Farage is committed until the next election, given that? I think that's interesting because I go back to what Lee Anderson said in an interview just the other day as well,

where he said he had to convince Nigel that this was his destiny. There's a lot of rumours flying around about this. Now, obviously, there's Westminster gossip. But when your own party chairman is having to convince the party leader to stay on, I think there is a bit of a problem. And also, Peter, Peter, also saying to him, Oh, my God, you're doing it again. And every single politician has thought about quitting, you know, every other day.

Roger, Roger, of course every politician thinks about quitting. The fact that the party chairman on the eve of conference decides to say this kind of thing, that is the problem. It's not necessarily that I disagree with Nigel. I actually surprised he's still in it. I'd have walked away ages ago. But the point is when the party chairman says this stuff, that's what we're talking about. Can I just say one thing? And I'm going to be a little bit controversial.

And all I'm just going to say, speaking as a politician who has quit this week over time. Well, I'm not a politician, but I'm going to be a little bit. I'm going to take Nigel's side for once. And I'm going to do that. You're allowed to do that now you're outside of Restorbitter. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I'm going to take his side.

This is a man who, no matter how hardcore you are, and no matter how much you think that you can tolerate abuse and dishonesty, etc. There comes a point that people, every person gets to a point where they think, is it worth it? can I do this anymore? What is the point? Are you talking about yourself, Ola? No, no, not at all. Not all. I'm talking about Nigel. But I mean, in all seriousness, though. Let me just say this. Yeah. Let me just say this. Nigel is here. He's got Dan Jukes. He's all, one of his oldest, closest allies. He's got Generic, who I believe all day long is trying to take over that party and be the leader. Absolutely. Then you've got Zia, who is coming, who is trying to stab him in the back. You know, it's Game of Thrones. We're watching Game of Games. We're watching Game. Game of Thrones and he is, you know, sitting on his throne thinking at any point I am going to get shafted and I do not know who to trust. And you know what? At some point, everybody gets to get to the point where they go, F this, there has got to be more to life. There has got

to be more to life. I would not blame it if he just said, see you later. I'm off scy. It's so old that Shakespeare even plays. Correct. Correct. Right. And you know, it's not like he hasn't got money. He could, if I was in, I'd be on the first plane out. See you later over to the States, Fox News, present a lovely jubble. Done. And he could do that. Now, look, I do also want to talk about some of the policy from today. That is important.

You know, we won't just do the personalities here. I do think this is an important conference. And Reform UK has today vowed to end the daily invasion of illegal migrants from French shores as Nigel Farage and Jordan Badal signed this historic agreement that the Reform UK leader, and sure he's embattled, but he says if he ever will be prime minister, that it will stop the boats forever. Now, if you haven't heard of Badala, very interesting guy, effectively Marine Le Pen's deputy, or shall we say rival, he's like the Zia Yusuf to Le Pen, but he would become the next French prime minister if she were to win the presidential election and succeed

Emmanuel Macron, I believe she will. And they were joined on stage at Reforms-Hijacked Party conference to try and steal back the agenda by announcing this agreement that would allow us to turn back boats launched from French shores and guess what? Return them to France. The United Kingdom will intercept boats which have launched from French shores and entered British territorial waters and will return the persons on board to France. It isn't just us. It isn't just us upset with the boats crossing the channel. Imagine living in those northern French villages and towns, with criminal gangs and camps and shootings and stabbings.

But it's also part of the commitment, part of Marine and Jordan's commitment to stopping all illegal immigration into France. People won't enter France with the intention of coming to this country. They won't do it. And then in a moment, and this is what's so sad about what's happened with the undercover steed, In a moment that would have dominated the mainstream media, they signed the agreement on stage. We're about to sign an historic document

that will stop the boats forever. You'd hold it for me as well. It's quite heavy. The beginning of the corporation. We thank Jordan Bardella to being here today. And I thank you for witnessing this important and historic moment. Thank you very much indeed. And this is really important and historic because something is changing.

With even the BBC, the British Bashing Corporation, finally U-Turning on the migrant crisis as they start to realize that the daily invasion of the disunited kingdom is not something that they can ignore. Indeed, they've done something that a load of us were doing years ago. Going undercover to film what is really going on in Calais. And it actually caused a horror injury. And this is terrible to a BBC cameraman who was left needing stitches after being attacked. by a people smuggler at a migrant camp. But as Isabel Oakshot of Talk TV put it,

maybe now the BBC will wake up. Sorry about the injury, but these are the kinds of people hitting for Britain. And it was actually the broadcaster's Paris correspondent, James Waterhouse, who finally decided he was going to stop doing the lives in front of the Eiffel Tower as he did some proper reporting and decamped to Calais.

You're about to see a small boat launch in its entirety. A need for speed would be a fair assumption, but this was not to be the case. No need to run at this point. Twenty or so migrants are instructed to enter the shallows of the English Channel and wait for what they hope is a voyage to a better life. This is what's called a taxi boat. It's set off from the Belgian border. The water is calm and there's very little wind.

We've got around 50 people or so on this small boat, this taxi boat, but what it will do now is make its way further along the coastline. Where are you from? Afghanistan. Why are you going to the UK? They don't reply. Why UK? Why not go legally? Why do it like this?

It's very dangerous. After the last passenger makes it on board. It inches towards the UK. But you can see how shocked he is because what really happens is that there's not enough people on board. For the smugglers, they wanted more. But is it leaving? The appearance of another group suggests it's not. No. Was that the boat you were hoping?

Is it going to come back for you? I don't know. You don't know. Nevertheless, they wait. Others can catch up too. It's likely at least one person here is a smuggler, shepherding the group and coordinating with the boat. An hour later, it sure enough does come back,

but to another gathering on a different part of the beach. Some still try to make it. And do. Every time you think the boat has reached its capacity, it returns for more human cargo. And the BBC reporter has to admit that the French don't do a thing. All of these people have paid 1,500, 2,000 euros each. They're customers to the people smuggling gangs.

So they want trust to be retained in this pathway. They don't want it to become perceived as too dangerous. But you can see there are thumbs up, there are people waving. They are delighted to be on this boat. on this boat. Rescue teams and police look on. Their aims have shifted from prevention to preserving life. By the fifth collection, the orderly nature of it all has disappeared as the window for boarding shrinks. After three hours and five collections, 82 people finally depart. They all successfully reach the UK. And then they're attacked when they get to the camp.

At the biggest migrant camp near Dunkirk, we experienced. the smugglers' frustration firsthand. People are incredibly reluctant to talk. We've spoken to a man from Egypt who wanted to come to the UK for two reasons, he said, papers and a job. And that's what a lot of people have been saying. It's too difficult to get, there are necessary documents to get a job elsewhere in Europe.

It's after we film this part of the camp, we're attacked. A gang member tries to grab our camera. We rushed to the car as he repeatedly throws rocks at us. Let me give you something. We get away, but our cameraman pole was hit on the forehead. He'd later have a few stitches. To the superstar panel, Will Coulter, you're a brilliant independent journalist. You run Resistance GB.

You've done lots of brilliant work exposing loads of this. The BBC have more resources than you or I could dream of, and it's taken them six years? I mean, in some ways I want to celebrate it will and say, thank God. Finally, in other ways, I want to say, what have you been doing? What has taken you so long? This is happening every single day. And it has been for the past six years.

Well, fundamentally, I think it's damage control. I went over last year. And I went and we found about, I'd say, maybe 200 migrants just sitting around in a little northern French town. And they had all of the life jackets on them. So they're easy to pick out. You just go, bam, there you are. hundreds of them. They're about three coppers. They did absolutely nothing. They just followed them around and spied on them. And the only people, they asked questions for us. They asked us questions

as to what we were doing there, not these migrants who were about to invade our country. And we spoke to them. They went, we come to your country, we take your country, al-a-a-a-a-a-ha-a-ha-ha-ha-a-ha-ha. We come your country a thousand years. They want to take over and completely dominate our country. And the scary thing is, though, the BBC moving to this narrative is, actually the BBC doing damage control because they've realized they can't control the narrative. So what they're doing is they're just moving back to a second defensive line because they want to keep you just focused on these boats. And people say stop the boats, stop the illegals. Actually what's happening in this country is we've been dominated far more by the so-called legal

migration than the illegal. This is just the tip of the iceberg. This is what a lot of people are getting worked up over. But really, not only do we have to stop these boats where, as you can see, there, identity documents that they throw away. But we also need to clear out a huge amount of the people who are here, who are colonising, and who are occupying our country. Because frankly, it's not really our country to give away. It's our country to preserve for future generations. We've been here for over a thousand years. Our ancestors founded this nation. And we owe it to future generations to pass it on to them. And I'm particularly alarmed. You know, these exact same people have already come in via the so-called legal routes. And really, for Danny Kruger to

consider that those people, Afghans, to be equal as a civilisation, it's terrifying. It's terrifying that the people coming in voting and it's terrifying that they're supporting political parties, that they're sitting on juries, that they're out there campaigning, and they're sitting as judges. They're serving as police officers who are beating people like me up. You agree. I want them gone, Dan. I want millions upon millions of these people gone. But it's very sad to say that. this is just the tip of it. The French aren't doing anything. And I mean, if Burnham can stop it or slow it down to a degree,

then he'll get a lot of publicity off of it. I'm sorry, 45 more police officers. Please, please. That was the big announcement from Macron and the UK. Please, they don't want to stop it. But anyway, don't we start on that? Alla, alla, come on. So do you know what?

I was just looking at that one boat. And the cost to the taxpayer on that one boat is three and a half million per annum just that one boat and those men do you see how the BBC had one random child and one random woman just to make a point that's so rare i'm surprised they probably found them put them in they put them in the the the the shot just to you know make us feel a little bit sad but still 99% fighting age men 95 99.9.9% are men and look at these men Afghanistan the risk that these i'm going to i'm going to go on my usual thing the risk that these men pose to girls and women in this country is an outrage.

But they'll get to Calais and be given a leaflet. Do not rape our girls. And they'll be given condoms. If you're going to rape them, use a condom. Brilliant. Thank you, Andy Vernon. It is the biggest travesty of this generation after generation that this is happening. I am fuming.

Fuming every time I see this. And nobody is doing anything. And do you know what? I applaud Farage because he's done that deal at least they're looking at ways to to stop it. What do you want when Burnham

after only a few weeks in office gives the French only 662 million pounds? I mean, come on. What are you saying? Only. Peter? Peter, what do you want? Oh, I've got a very long list.

Andy Devers says no, so I might as well go and start asking. But the interesting thing about this protocol of understanding is Did anybody actually bother to read it? Because what Nigel Farge said and what's in that document are not the same thing. There's a big financial contribution that Britain has to follow according to that protocol. There's also the fact that it creates a revolving door, basically, France will process.

I think you're just relying on the French to deport, relying on the fact that Bardella might not even win. We're talking about Farage being stopped. The French, I also have their left-wing activists and they're very powerful as well. there's a lot of resting on a kind of wishes and whims. And I thought this was supposed to be a serious policy because, again, it looks like a publicity stunt to me. I don't think there's anything of substance actually there. The one thing I will say, just to kind of give them a little bit of credit,

that going after the business model. That's not a bad idea. This is better to smash the gangs. It's actually make the business unviable by, you know, taking away the presumption that once you reach British waters, you get into Britain. But again, there's not the detail. This is the big problem.

reform, there is nothing of value or substance that anybody can actually point to it, it says, this is the plan, this is how it's going to work, this is day one, two, three, all that kind of stuff. This is what reform needed at this conference. And if all we've got is fireworks and, you know, publicity stunts, I think this is a waste of time. Yeah, well, it is interesting. Just looking at the super chat that's come in from Lee Lee, Lee, 1962, who says, Dan, this is orchestrated evil. It's by design. They want to start a civil war. But believe, me, they won't like the ending. They obviously don't know our history. Peasants, revolt. They know F all. And I'm sorry, I am with Lili. I do believe this is all orchestrated now they do not

want to stop the boats. Now, the ongoing feud between Piers Morgan and Ben Shapiro exploded on Elon Musk's free speech platform X after an appearance by Milo Unopoulos on uncensored, which provoked a fiery back and forth between the two YouTube rivals. Now Morgan and Shapiro have been firing rounds at each other of the best part of a year, mainly due to finding themselves on opposite ends of the Middle East conflict with Shapiro refusing to go on Pearz's show, calling him the Jerry Springer of politics. So that's a bit of the backstory about why these two, quite frankly, despise each other. It's very entertaining for all of us, though, because Pear's had Mileneoplas on for this exclusive interview after his deportation from the US.

And he played a video of Shapiro reacting to the news of Milo's return. This guy, this one, why he was hanging around in the United States for so long, nobody really understands. Was he a benefit to the United States? As long as we're evoking H-1B visas, it seems to me that there's no special talent visa applicable for Milo Unoplas.

We have plenty of nut jobs here in the United States. We don't need more. Here's ask for Milo's reaction. Well, what's your reaction to Ben Shapiro? Well, I've written a lot more New York Times bestsellers than he has, so, you know, as far as extraordinary ability goes, you know, let's not punch down. But that wasn't enough for Pearce.

He was looking for the viral moment. When he calls you a decrepit pervert and scuzz bucket, I mean... As he did in his lengthy tirade. What do you feel of that? Ben has been very upset for a very long time because when I started to become popular way back in 2016, and Ben was, you know, juicing his numbers and, you know, paying for, you know, like they do in America, you know, the influence are kind of, you know, astroturfing all the rest of it.

And I was just sailing past him in, in every way, completely organically. You know, he couldn't really understand why. He's one of those people that, you know, one of those terminal mediocrities that can't really understand the difference between them and the talented people and just sits and fumes and froths and, you know, occasionally tries to sort of engage with them and then has to eject them out of, you know, out of rage and envy me.

Do the same thing with Candace. You know, Ben has become, well, Ben became somewhat wealthy and somewhat influential by being, you know, a nasty, dark, slippery person behind the scenes. I think everyone's kind of got the measure of him now. And, you know, sorry to hear that his organisation's doing so poorly, but if he's very cross about something, it should be the state of his P&L.

That's not me. So he's referring to the Daily Wire there, and Shapiro responded, of course, writing it remains a source of astonishment that in Pearce Morgan's world, the defence two charges of moral turpitude is, look how many clicks I get. Also, as per the usual,

this illegal immigrant is lying. I have five New York Times best sellers. Milo has one. Pears responded. It used to be your world, little Enjee, until people started watching you. Then a user called Gummy Bear wrote,

Does Pairs Morgan not realize that this is a cell phone when he's basically confirming Ben Shapiro's criticism that Piers is a click whore who cares more about views and clicks than he cares about standards, morality and intellectual honesty. Rhetorical question, no, he doesn't.

Prompting Pairs to reply with laughing face emojis, ironically, Ben has proven himself to be an amoral, intellectually dishonest click whore, especially about his. which is why nobody watches him anymore and they all watch me instead. And when someone called out Pears for wanting Ben on show, despite people stopping watching him, Pears replied, no, Ben Shapiro, I just can't deal with the irony of this. No, Ben Shapiro is now banned from uncensored. Yep,

banned from uncensored. He's become ratings kryptonite, so I can't risk him dragging down my massive numbers. Shapiro. Oh no. You're banning me from a show I announced publicly I wouldn't do months ago because you're political Bonnie Blue. Whatever will I do now? Also, I've been reliably informed by Midwit British Clickhaws that denial of platform is a violation of free speech principles and censorship or something. And the pair continued their warfare with mock images, with Ben posting this one of Alec Baldwin and Glenn Gary Glenn Ross, but instead of the chalkboard reasoning A always B, B, C closing.

Ben's read A always B, B, C, click, hoary. That prompted Pears, how mature to post an image, mocking Ben's height, which then turned to Shapiro replying. With this image, you've seen a lot of people compare Pears to this pigeon lady from Home Alone too, but maybe it wasn't the best timing given Pears' reply. Brenda Fricker was a wonderful, Oscar-winning actress who died a few weeks ago, aged 81. But that's not all. That's not all. Ben hadn't finished.

Don't follow the retardosphere. If you do, you may end up deported, bleary-eyed, cross-eyed on Pierce Morgan's Jerry Springer, Click Bordello. This is the theme of today's show. There are lots and lots of people in our public life who grip for clicks and cash. And you can tell who they are by the fact that they shift their views and their personas on a routine basis, kaleidoscopically. You're constantly asking yourself, hey, what happened to that guy? What happened to her? They didn't used to be that way. We're going to go through some of these people because they are, in fact, shaping our political life in all the dumbest ways. Because people love car wrecks, like they like to watch car wrecks, a lot of these people get

pretty good numbers. And then they use those numbers to proclaim that they are on the cutting edge of populist politics and then actual political figures follow them. So here is a solution. Do not donate your attention to them. There are only so many breaths you have in this life, and you're not going to get these breaths back. But Pear's always wants the final word, doesn't he? Always exsosting, humble to see Little Ben-Cabreau has used me to shamelessly and hypocritically clickbait whore his floundering show

in a desperate attempt to get his viewing numbers up. Oh God. To our superstar panel, Peter C. Barnes, whose team are you on? Morgan or Shapiro? I'm on the Chinese because I can't wait for them to take over at this point. My God, this is the one dick measuring competition that might turn me straight. This is just a pathetic load of nonsense. Good God.

If this is the state of the intellectual debate, the Chinese can take over tomorrow. Just give them the keys. I mean, what is the point? Just get over it. Who cares? We're supposed to be a serious nation with having great debates. What happened to us? What happened to great men in great rooms having important conversations?

It's just name calling like it's high school. This is just depressing. I mean, in a way, I kind of missed 2016. At least it was a little bit entertaining. But now it's just sad. It's actually just sad to watch. I mean, it is interesting, though, isn't it? Because I guess the serious point behind this, and I am noticing it a lot,

is you sort of have this split. And in the same way in the UK, it might be like the reform restore split. It's the split in the YouTube sphere, which is that you have sort of. of the in the UK, I guess the Constantine Kissens and the Tom Slaters and the Winston Marshals who are like, look over there, you woke right, you're terrible, and they don't necessarily seem to want to engage in debate, but just call these people retards. I mean, I want to have both sides on. Do you know what I mean? Well, I remember back in, what, the sort of 2016 days when

Shapiro was first getting all of his appeal when he said, Fax don't care about your feelings. And he condemned the vote with the woke. He was one of the first people out there really fighting this who recognized this was a culture war. And so he got a load of credit for that. It's just unfortunate that when it comes to Israel, and I think it's quite ironic that he's called Piers Morgan,

a political Bonnie Blue, because he is prostituting himself for the state of Israel. I just find it ironic. And it often comes down to this sort of distinction, am I going to do the easy thing? I'm going to do the convenient thing. Am I going to go with powers that be? Or am I going to question the loyalty and influence

of a foreign country in our domestic sphere? Just like the way they took down Thomas Massien, the United States. The most principal Congress. But does this mean you're backing Morgan and this row, Will? I'm not saying I back Morgan, more that I'm just very, very disappointed by someone like Shapiro. It's sort of like the same moment that Jordan Peterson turned around

and said, take the damn vaccine. He sold out all of his principles, like a man who's got a whole room full of Soviet propaganda to warn him of when totalitarianism arises, just decides to go along with it. That's the exact same thing for Shapiro. The minute anyone mentions anything about Zionism, Israel, he gets completely woke. So they believe in all of this sort of foreign interest group, identity, politics, special interest, special privilege. We need protection over everyone else. oh, the Holocaust, the Holocaust, the Holocaust, as if, you know, we aren't the people

who ended the Holocaust, it should be, well, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Instead, it's, you know, it's constant blame, constant guilt tripping, the exact same sort of... Yeah, so what you're saying is there are certain... The whip on my back, 400 years of slavery. Certain sort of issues where Shapiro says, no, there is no debate. But, all right, I look at Morgan and I'm like,

okay, you're the new GB News. You know, you're the new free speech channel. You're literally called uncensored, but you're banned. list is now almost as long as the list of people who you allow on your show. I mean, it's the opposite of Unsense. Now, that's fine. He can put on his show whoever he wants to put on his show, but I do just wonder if he needs to change its name. Piers Morgan controlled might be a little bit more appropriate. I just think, I mean, look, I'm not a big fan of Morgans, to be honest with you. I used to be, but I think that he's, I just don't like him. He's just become an old woman.

But, you know, the thing is, these, these, this is typical Twitter. I don't know what's, well, X, I don't always happen to X. It's turned into this handbags at dawn, slagging each other off. No one's having a proper conversation. It's just embarrassing. Look, they're two grown intellectual men. Have a conversation instead of bitching about each other. And actually, the bitching, everybody talks about women being bitches.

The men are, men are horrendous. Get over yourselves. You know, the best, and it's just, what they do is they undermine their own intelligence and their own, everything about them. They're just, they, their gut, it's gutter bitching. It's pathetic. And Pierce, I'm afraid, he used to be great when he used to have people like Dame, you know, Dame Joan Collins and he'd have all these lovely people that he'd have on his show. Now he's just got a bunch of idiots that just en route. It's all pathetic.

I'm done with that whole. All is correct. And I'll add one thing to that. If she wants them to man up, go back to tradition. Let's bring back duelling. They should fight it out. Yes. Give him a sword.

Give him a sword. Give him a sword. I would be there for that, to be totally honest. I did want to ask you, Roger Giewalb, because obviously you are a reform supporter. And Pearz has been going at your shadow home secretary, Zia Yusuf, this week, describing him as racist. Now, this is after Zia Yusuf responded to the fact that there is likely to be a Somalian-born woman running in the slippery Stama by-elections. and he wrote, the frontrunner being foisted on the people of Holbin by Labor to replace the former Prime Minister Keir Sama and our parliament was born in Somalia. Do you understand what's happening?

Morgan responds, so disgusting, you're the son of Sri Lankan Muslim immigrants to the UK, you racist clown. Now, fine, you've thrown ad hominem around, but fine. What I then hate, because this is something Morgan always does, is it's like, now I'm going to try and get use of cancel too, and I'm going to try and drag other people in. So he uses identity politics by copying a Nadim Zahawi, you know, who defected another immigrant who defected to Reform UK. And he wrote, as someone born in Iraq, Nadim Zahawi, I assume you will condemn this blatant racism by your Reform Party colleague.

Or do you also see a problem with people who are born outside of the UK being elected officials here? Now, Roger, do you think that this comment from Zia Yusuf was racist in any way? Not really. No, I just think, I mean, a lot of points have been made here, but I think they're going deeper than necessary. To me, this is just two chaps that have run out of runway. And I mean, their popularity has been on the decline for some time. They've got less and less to say. You mean Shapiro and Morgan? Yeah, of relevance. And their movie. They're moving into click bait and clickharring and staging a fight. It's like you and I did 10, 12 years ago.

I came to talk radio and it gave you champagne. And I sat down with you and we had one of our great fights. We've had many, Roger. We've had many. If you remember, we made the front page of the mirror the next day over this. I just think they're just trying to get an audience interested in, you know. Look, what I would tell you is any of my. fights come from a from a very genuine

place. So maybe you must know where the champagne is. I want to know what the champagne is. I need one. I need one. I think they run out of runway. And they're just trying to stay popular. I agree with that. Well, look, your champagne is in the post.

Your champagne is in the post. Roger J. Giewelb, who is a Reform UK supporter, but also Roger, your channel. The Gospel, according to Roger. People can subscribe on YouTube. Will Coleshill, people can obviously subscribe to you on YouTube as well via Resistance GB. Peter C. Barnes, obviously, I love your substack. The outsider with P2C Barnes. That's the best place for people to find you right now.

And all of... Yeah, without a doubt. Olla, what about you? What about you and your Post-Restore Britain world? There's no subscribing. There's no subscribing. subscribing. Yeah, no subscribing. It is what it is. Well, we will watch this space. We will watch this space. I'm sure Ollum and E Hain has big plans outside of Restore Britain, even though I find it very disappointing actually all of the antics this week. I think for me personally, as I said on the show yesterday with Conor Thomins, that would be much better to try and keep the different factions of the party in 110. But there you go.

These things happen and we always love having you on outspoken, Orla. So thank you all. have an amazing weekend. We are about to reveal the worst Britain in the world this week, though. But just before we get there, I want to get to some of your feedback. There's been a hell of a lot of it coming in. Sean Keegan, 5868. Who is a new member of Outspoken Plus? Thank you so much, Sean, for joining. He says Tory failure's second chance party in regards to Reform UK. Gordon Ferguson, 437O, talking of Nigel Farage, says he doesn't care about demographic change. He won't deport millions. There's the that lot comment. There's the ex-Torries. He says he is a wolf in sheep's clothing and establishment. No one, S-U-1-U-L says,

dodgy Nigel, Restore Britain, and now the only answer to this lunacy. Zoo azoid says Farage is up the creek without a panel. Rain of T says, foreign funded, like you? What? Trust me. The only people I'm funded by are my substack subscribers. I love you all. They are from all around the world. They pay five to six pounds a month and I am so grateful for you but that is the only foreign funding I'm receiving. Kathy come home 66 says Imagine if Rupert had done this.

Farage would be all over him, the fraud. Georgia H247 says Reform alienated the right wing. They won't win with just the boomers. A lot of them will vote Tories. And on Zia Yusuf, Todd Morlanx, his ear was very warmly received at the conference. His star is rising in the party

and it is triggering underlying ambition and bringing it to the surface. And Timo G.B. He says Yusuf was always going to be the leader. Reform is designed to replace the traditional Christian Tories with modern Muslim immigrants with Yusuf as leader. Well, you know I have been predicting that for a very, very long time. Thank you so much for your super chats to Chaos UK 2026, who is number one today. Yes, chaos. You say it's been a very scary week for the common side of politics. I feel like we need this so we can wake up and unite the common sense side as one

and not let our country become a place we don't recognize anymore. We need to unite. And you've done the prayer emoji, and I so fear you on that. And Sandy always sunny, thank you for the super chat, says, I swear on all that is holy and sane Farage is a fraud. Paid to get Zia to Kia to prime minister. He has never been a real prime minister, real politician. He is a grifter.

Vote restore. Well, amazing feedback today. Thank you so much for it. And please do come back with more. Monday. But now we're going to reveal today's worst, well, it's this week's worst Britain in the world. It's when we put our union jackasses from across the week head to head. On Monday, it was Sidde Khan. On Tuesday, Kirstama, on Wednesday, Ed Miliband, and on Thursday, Nina Mishkoff, the results are in. There's a tie for third place with 7% of the vote. It's Nina Mishkoff

and Ed Miliband. This is the first time this has happened. He's only, the runner-up this week with 12% of the vote, Slippery Stama, the outgoing Prime Minister, but after his ludicrous comments in regards to the Notting Hill Carnival, with a whopping, overwhelming, 74% of the vote, Sadiq Khan is the worst Britain in the world this week. Now, look, speaking of Substack, I'd love you to come and join us over on Substack, where I'm teaming up with P. Diner for all of the Royal News at www.w.w.outspoken.live. but barring anything massive happening over the weekend we will be back live with you 5 p.m. UK time Monday, midday Eastern, 9am Pacific. Do remember to hit subscribe right now on YouTube. Do subscribe to

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