Dan Wootton Outspoken - VIGILANTES PROTECT ROCHDALE AS GANG LEADER SHABHIR AHMED FREED BY STARMER AS LOWE EXPOSES BURNHAM

Episode Date: July 2, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Rochdale Pakistani Muslim grooming gang leader Shabhir Ahmed is a free man today walking our streets because the government has been unable to change a 55-year-old law that makes d...eportation difficult, as Rupert Lowe reveals incoming Prime Minister Andy Burnham has TWICE refused to meet him to discuss the findings of Restore Britain’s inquiry. Dan argues there is no genuine desire to get any of these animals out, with it being left to the BBC of all places to track down the Godfather of migrant crossings, Twana Jamal, who is now working illegally while seeking asylum in Leicester. Reformed Muslim turned activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali has today issued a stark warning to Britain: “Islamists want to dominate, not integrate” But leftist Gary Lineker has used this moment of England's hope after the World Cup to push the sick line that embracing the St George’s Flag is somehow racist. Joining us for the entire show today is Rafe Heydel-Mankoo, the brilliant broadcaster and historian who is a Fellow of the New Culture Forum. PLUS: The Metro Newspaper has decided that its focus should be attempting to cancel Tommy Robinson’s new Spotify podcast, but he’s not taking this MSM hit piece lying down. AND: Prince Harry leaks his own security report trying to convince the UK government he is at threat of a terrorist attack ahead of his visit with Meghan Markle, Archie and Lili. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Royal YouTube sensation P-Dina joins us for the week’s royal news, including James Corden’s awkward dig at his so-called friend Prince Harry and a new look for Sophie, the Duchess of Edinburgh. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 528. And breaking right now, vigilantes are protecting the streets of Rochdale as we come on air. After Pakistani Muslim rape gang leader, Shabir Ahmed is freed from prison by slippery stammer. This animal is walking amongst us. because our Labour government has been unable to change a 55-year-old ass of a law that makes deportation difficult. That, as Rupert Lowe reveals, the incoming Prime Minister Andy Burnham has twice refused to meet with him to discuss the findings of Restore Britain's rape gang inquiry. And do not tell me that there is any genuine desire to get these animals out. With it being left to the BBC, of all places, to track down the godfather of migrant.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Crossings. This is Tijuana Jamal, who is now working illegally while seeking asylum in Leicester. When they arrested you in France, police were injured in the arrest. And now you're in Britain. Why are you claiming asylum? Why do you want to be in Britain? I've been here for a long, long time. Yeah, why? Why do you want to be in this country? Because I was not safe at my country, and then I came to this country. Right, but you came to this country via France where you spent. years people smuggling. You don't know one of the biggest people smuggling networks. I never. We know your part. Reform Muslim-turned-activist Ion-Hersi Ali has today issued a stark warning to Britain.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Islamists want to dominate, not integrate. Do not give in to the demands of Islamists. Confront them with the question, why are you here if Sharia law is so fantastic? Where are so many people in Muslim countries moving to the infidel West? But suicidal empaths like Gary Lineca have used this moment of England hope after the World Cup to push the sick line that embracing the St George's flag is somehow racist. You know, they're the ones that have taken this St. George's flag or, you know, on board as a sign. But I also think you've got to go home.
Starting point is 00:02:25 and I think, you know, they're trying to divide us. You know, they're using it as an excuse, a deflection away from the real issues and what's really causing the problems in this country. Oh my God. And the Metro newspaper has decided that its focus should be on attempting to cancel Tommy Robinson's new Spotify podcast, but he's not taking this MSM hit piece lying down.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Luke, have you watched the podcast? I just something about it. I haven't just a little bit. Well, maybe you should listen to it and watch it before you ask me questions, no? Is there anything that's fueling violence, inciting violence in any way, breaks any law? I think there's two points. Actually, I'm just to answer to your question. They talk about, in an interview, there is a talk about...
Starting point is 00:03:21 Joining us for the entire show today, Rafe Hidal-Manku. Brilliant broadcaster, excellent historian, also a fellow of the new culture, Also coming up today, Tommy Robinson lashes out at a leftist false drug smear. And Prince Harry leaks his own security report trying to convince the UK government. He is the threat of a terrorist attack ahead of his visit with Megan Markle, Archie and Lily. This is nuts. We're going to get into it all. Then in the Royal Uncanceled After Show on Substack Royal YouTube Sensation P. Diner joins us for the week's Royal News, including James Corden's awkward dig at his so-called friend, Prince Harry.
Starting point is 00:03:59 and a new look for Sophie the Duchess of Edinburgh. That will be a pallet cleanser. We'll also be revealing the last duty in Jackass of the week. You can get voting in the live chat on YouTube. But here are our nominees, Shabir Ahmed, nominated by Rafe Hidal Mancoe, the disgusting child rapers who has been led out of prison on the streets of Britain and can't be deported due to this 55-year-old law. He's also gone for Tawana Jamal, the people smuggler, convicted in,
Starting point is 00:04:29 France, who has fled to the UK and is now working illegally in Leicester. I've gone for Chris Ship of Woke ITV News. He's the Royal Editor there, but as I will prove later in the show, simply these days, a propagandist for Prince Harry. So get voting, keep your superchats coming in during the show too. I will read them out before we go today. But now, let's go. The Labor Government and Slippery Stama, who have spent years covering up the scandal, have to released the leader of the Rochdale Pakistani Muslim rape gangs onto the streets. Shabir Ahmed, nicknamed Daddy, was this afternoon led out from prison on license, immediately putting the Greater Manchester Town on edge with vigilantes,
Starting point is 00:05:23 now patrolling those streets in a bid to protect this monster's victims and other native women. The 73-year-old served just 40. 14 years of a 22-year sentence after being caged in August 2012 for heinous sexual offences against girls as young as 12. The Labor government says we can't get rid. We cannot deport because of this 55-year-old law. What's so despicable is that is despite the fact that victims were promised he would be deported. This evil rat came to Britain in the late 1960s. He held dual British and Pakistani citizenship at the time of his conviction. Here is one of his victims called Ruby,
Starting point is 00:06:12 speaking to the Daily Express, detailing the abuse she suffered. Watch. Dad did normally follow us up and drink us drinks. That day, the vodka and everything was already in the room, bearing a man, he wasn't giving us mixer. So imagine two 12-year-old girls drinking vodka straight a litre between us, and we were always polishing the bottle.
Starting point is 00:06:34 so like there was nothing left in the bottle we went in this other room because there was like rooms with just like mattresses on the floor they said go in this room today start drinking and then we'll move you into that. We'll come back in the other room that's when all the men was there and it weren't just like one mat
Starting point is 00:06:51 and it was like so many men like I was like 20 men in like one room all sat in a circle and we was just sat in the middle and that victim Ruby has released a statement regarding the sickening release today watch The woman who we're calling Ruby now has children of her own. She says, I'm scared for my safety and my kids' safety. The main ringleader is getting out of prison, who is well known in Rochdale, Oldham and Middleton.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So even if he's not in that area, he still knows people and has a chance to talk to people from that area, and that makes me unsafe. Well, she continues. Victims are left to fend for themselves because there is no support. The Immigration Act is from 1971. Why are we still going off acts from 50 years ago when it's 2026? We need the law changing and victims need to be heard. Absolutely. This is disgusting.
Starting point is 00:07:44 It is despicable. It shows how far this country has fallen. And the fact that there are now vigilante gangs protecting the streets says it all. I mean, how is Ahmed any different to Shemima Begham, who we did refuse to allow to return to the country? She had dual citizenship, remember, reform UK, Zia, Yusuf and despair over this Kafkaesque news today. Watch. You hear government ministers come on and talk about, yeah, we're going to do this. And you hear this rhetoric and they call him names. Then you hear Tory shadow ministers.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Remember, the Tories had 14 years in power to get ourselves into the position as a country where you can deport people, by the way, who are foreign nationals, who have been convicted of being... I mean, again, it just makes me so angry, who were ringleaders of the grooming gangs. And what hope do we have as a country? If we cannot even deport a foreign national, who was a ringleader in the Rochdale grooming gangs, what hope are we got of deporting the north of one million people in this country? Britain is utterly, utterly broken.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Well, we have no hope, and that is the problem. And that is why we need regime change. But the situation at ground zero of the Pakistani Muslim rape gang epidemic is going to cause serious tension, I believe, on the ground, with vigilantes quite rightly taking to the streets of Rochdale to protect local residents and victims of Ahmed who say they are living in fear, as we just heard. The Daily Telegraph has reported in the last hour, a group organised by local campaigner Billy Halworth will patrol the area in coming down. days, with police remaining on standby. Mr. Howard said the paedophiles' victims were so terrified by his release that they were not leaving their homes. He said, he wasn't just a child rapist. He is the devil incarnate. He must be kept in jail or deported. No questions asked. What I've managed to do is get a shitload of Rochdale lads together as rapid response.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Residents will be protected. So are we in a situation now where we trust vigilante gangs on the streets of Rochdale more than we do the police? Unfortunately, given the cover-up and given the police's involvement in the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs in Rochdale, the answer to that question is yes, and it shows what deep, deep trouble we are now in. Incoming Prime Minister and Rat of the North, Andy Burnham, claims that there's nothing off the table to get the scumbag out of Britain. He posted like everyone, I want this vile criminal out of the country. Victims must come first. I will ask the home and foreign secretaries to review all possible options and they should consider nothing is off the table. But restore Britain leader Rupert Lowe called out Burnham as the wolf in sheep's clothing, replying, I invited you to discuss the findings of our rape gang inquiry, a process that has enabled so many victims to speak openly about their suffering for the very first time. You ignored my request. twice. Poor form indeed. Kemi Badenock says the Conservatives have a solution,
Starting point is 00:11:02 despite them being in power for 14 years in which they could have changed these laws. But she did say, I completely agree, the Conservatives have a solution. We will amend the government's immigration bill to close the loophole so that this man can be deported immediately. If Andy Burnham wants to show he means what he says, he should instruct Labour MPs to support our amendment.
Starting point is 00:11:23 We need to make sure this vile individual never walks our streets again. But he already is. He already is. Ahmed is free on the streets of Rochdale today, right now. It's sickney. And we know what's happening all over our streets is sickening. I mean, it's not just child rapists, is it teenagers? Now find themselves caught up in shootings near mosques in Birmingham.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Watch. Some breaking news. A teenager has been a... arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after a 16-year-old boy sustained gunshot wounds in a shooting in Birmingham. Police said the shooting occurred in the Allum Rock area just before 5.30pm yesterday, a 17-year-old is in custody. So we are in danger, we all know it. Now, unbelievably, it was the BBC of all places, who have tracked down the godfather of migrant cross scenes as their dogged investigative journal. Sue Mitchell and I will give her credit,
Starting point is 00:12:27 confronted Tijuana Jamal, who is now working illegally while seeking asylum in Leicester. Do the Home Office know your real identity, Tijuana Jamal? Yes. The Home Office know that you're a convicted people smuggler? Smuggler? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I never. You've not served time in prison in France. No. The Tijuana Jamal we saw convicted in France in 2016. Okay. We know the court record. We've seen the pictures of you. Have you told the Home Office that you're a convicted people smuggler?
Starting point is 00:13:00 I never did that. You never did people smuggling? The courts in France estimate you were the most prolific people smuggler they'd come across. You weren't more than a million pounds. What's the proof? What's the proof? When they arrested you in France, police were injured in the arrest.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And now you're in Britain. Why are you claiming asylum? Why do you want to be in Britain? Why do you want to be in Britain? I've been here for a long, long time. Yeah, why? Why do you want to be in this country? Because I was not safe about my country and then I came to this country.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Right, but you came to this country via France where you spent years, people smuggling. You've known one of the biggest people smuggling networks. We know your past. We know your past. Well, if you know that, there was just one second, I'll be back. We want to you guys. No, I want to talk to you. We've waited a long time to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Okay. We've seen you driving around in this country in a car. Tell me what license you've got. What valid... For what? For driving around in this country. I'm not troubling. We've got photos of evidence and video evidence of you driving.
Starting point is 00:14:04 For what? We are being taken for fools as Peter Lloyd raged. This scumbag is Toana and Jamal, a convicted people smuggler once, Jaldon. France, described as the godfather of migrant crossings. He's now living in the diverse Nirvana of Leicester, where he's seeking asylum, working illegally. Politics UK exposed that Jamal had earned up to £100,000 a week,
Starting point is 00:14:31 moving illegal migrants across the channel. He was given a five-year prison sentence in France. So why is he here? Why is he here? He is here because the government and Sipri Stama don't actually want to stop this invasion. And of course it's not just the people's people's smugglers who need to get out of the country, but also the folk, the terrorists, the criminals, the rapists, the murderers, who they were responsible for bringing in. And in a bid to, I think, just infuriate the native population even further, illegals have today been moved into what the sun has dubbed Migrant Street. Now, this is a series of gorgeous new build, 250,000-pound houses in the quiet village of Stoke Heath, Shropshire.
Starting point is 00:15:22 These homes have been handed to our invaders. The locals have just been told by Paula and some of the neighbours. All they've been able to be here. Under police guard, some of the new neighbours are leaving out. The lake was back. The neighbour who doesn't like us. After in Geoffrey. You have your mate again? No doubt. You don't speak to the press.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Basil the Great responded, this is part of the brand new state they've given entirely two illegal migrants. Every single home will be given to someone who broke into the UK illegally absolute insanity. And another brilliant citizen journalist took us on a guided tour showing disturbingly a children's playground right next to where the illegals will be housed in these mansions. It's just insane coming here and seeing this. This isn't some old three-star hotel or some disused student block. This is brand new homes out in the sticks. They're not furnished yet but they have got ovens and the flooring is done. It's just crazy. I did see a report where Shropshire Council were mentioned of spending
Starting point is 00:16:44 7 million on 30 new homes. Now I'm not sure if this is part of that because that was out in 2023. But yeah, just imagine your own little estate and right next door is a child's play park right on their doorsteps. I mean, it's just appalling and gross. And I mean, look, there is local pushback at least. Like from West Suffolk Council,
Starting point is 00:17:18 which voted unanimously last night to formally object to the use of the former RAF Barnum site as accommodation for illegals. Watch. We now move to the vote. All those in favour. Put your hands down. Yes, all those, any against? I don't see any hand. And any abstentions.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Thank you. To unanimous. Thank you. I now close business. Thank you very much. But they'll be ignored because the terrified locals are always ignored. And the architects of our disunited kingdom still run riot in the mainstream media. as woketopians of fewer Hirsch and Peter Frankopan's legacy podcast featured a special guest. Oh yes. Gary Linneker. Yeah, that Gary Linneker. You know the one axed from the BBC over an anti-Semitic Instagram post involving a rat?
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yes, that Gary Linneka has been given a new platform in a self-loathing attempt to turn England's Football World Cup campaign into a bid to push this narrative that embracing the St. Georgia's flag in some way makes us racist. People would say if you're not, if you're not white, they would say, where are you from? And if you said I'm English, they would say, no, where are you actually from? As in you can't be English if you're not white. And what does that mean for black and brown people who literally wear the England flag when they compete? It means they're wrong for a start.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I mean, I agree. Very wrong. I think it's very difficult, Afwa, for someone who's white, that's. never lived that like me. So I feel, I don't feel like I'm equipped in many ways to speak as to how that should be, how much it feel. What I think it should be is that that should never be an issue. I mean, of course, where, you know, if you play for England and whether you're black,
Starting point is 00:19:37 brown, Muslim, it doesn't matter. And I think it doesn't, I think for most people, most fans, they're still behind, they don't even think that way. But how do I know? Because I can't, I've not, I've seen things happen to my teammates that were appalling. And I've heard them happen. And I've seen it during my media career many, many times. We saw it, didn't we, when they, after the penalty shoot out, when they, you know, the three black boys missed their penalties. And a segment of people turned on them.
Starting point is 00:20:10 on social media and it was bloody awful. And at the same time, a lot of people came up behind them and a lot of people would have been white. But for me, how can I put my self in a position that I've not grown up in this environment? He is just the epitome of a self-loathing white, woke topean who was destroying the homeland that gave him everything. And of course, he then raised Ian Wright,
Starting point is 00:20:37 as he decided to attack Patriots who are proud, proudly waving the St. George's flag that he claims is being used to divide us. I've spent many conversations with Ian Wright, for example, and he told me something like he gets stopped in his car three times a year by the police. I mean, I honestly, in 40 odd years of driving, I've been stopped once and that I was speeding. So is that a coincidence, you know, black person in a nice car? I mean, really? How do you as a player separate yourself from the ways that your flag is getting weaponised for all the wrong things?
Starting point is 00:21:20 Especially when like you, you stand against those hostile and hate-filled ideas? Well, you know, they're the ones that have taken this St. George's flag. you know, on board as a sign. But I also think you've got to go higher. And I think, you know, they're trying to divide us. You know, they're using it as an excuse, a deflection away from the real issues and what's really causing the problems in this country.
Starting point is 00:21:52 You know, people coming over, you're taking your jobs. No, they're not. We need people coming up. We need immigration. We know that. Gary, you fool. They're not just taking our jobs anymore. They're taking our lives too.
Starting point is 00:22:04 You don't have any daughters, thankfully, but they're raping other people's daughters. And you spread this bullshit from your ivory tower. But this is everywhere. It's everywhere. Pro-SnP outlet, the National in Scotland, interviewed Q Mani Vannon. They-Thane. A newly elected they-them to the Scottish Parliament from the Green Party. who made their way into the chamber as a migrant on a temporary visa.
Starting point is 00:22:40 This bizarre election was enabled by a change in Scottish law in recent years, which extended candidacy rights to certain foreign nationals with valid immigration permission to be in the UK. And it's celebrated, like it's normal even boasting that this means more immigrants will be coming to slither their way into power. Watch. interesting to be in that position of being the first migrant in some ways the first immigrant or definitely the first immigrant on a visa in chambers but then it also i think has opened up the door to a bunch of other conversations around civic participation on what it means for migrants to be involved in the democracies that they're placed in and it's been exceptional to see that conversation
Starting point is 00:23:23 evolve and as difficult as the first couple weeks have been for me i'm hoping that it's easier for the second person or the third person who comes after. Oh, and there's going to be more coming. As a member of Parliament for Reform UK in Scotland, Thomas Kerr raged. Mani Vanne's smirk says it all. How a bloke on a student visa can sit in Scotland's national parliament is mental. Call me old fashion, but that right should remain with citizens. And we all need to develop some backbone to fight this insanity. As the courageous and Islam activist Ion Hershey Ali delivered these inspiring words at the Ark Conference. Do not give in to the demands of Islamists.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Confront them with the question, why are you here if Sharia law is so fantastic? Why are so many people in Muslim countries moving to the infidel West? And in today's daily telegraph, she has gone further, declaring that Islamists want to dominate, not integrate. When asked whether Islamists can be successfully integrated into liberal democracies, she responded without hesitation, no. And you must never, ever think that they can. Islamists do not want to integrate, they do not want to compromise, they want to dominate, to take over, to replace, and they have a plan,
Starting point is 00:24:50 which has been aided by vote-hungry politicians here in the Green Party, Labour, and the Liberal Democrats. Now remember Ayan Horsi Ali previously told us here and outspoken about how the Muslim Brotherhood intends to take over the disunited kingdom. Alongside just immigration in general that has negative consequences is the rise of radical Islam. And it is the entrenchment of, in particular, the Muslim Brotherhood. This is a force that wants to transform the countries that it has established itself in. It wants to transform Britain from being an open, liberal, democratic society to a Sharia-based society. They have put down mosques in Islamic centres and schools. They have taken down whole neighbourhoods and they think that they can get their message across
Starting point is 00:25:43 and transform the population and the reality in Britain through more immigration. And that's why we must articulate the fact. that this will never be an Islamist country. This will never be a country with Sharia law. The sooner we address these issues, the better. The sooner we articulate that Britain is never ever going to be a Muslim country. It's never going to have Sharia as its laws and its norms, that we have our own norms and our own culture and our laws and our laws
Starting point is 00:26:26 and a way of doing things, and that you have to, you coming from outside, you have to abide by those laws, leave. The sooner we start to articulate this and enforce it, I think the sooner we can avoid disaster. A slippery storm has enabled this, of course, and here's a disgrace to the very end. When Lee Anderson, Reform UK's Chief Whip, raised the horrifying risk of importing the legales and allowing them to be housed in luxury accommodation, the prime, Minister's only answer was to say he was proud and then attack Nigel Farage's finances. Lee Anderson.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In Ashefield, four workers, including two nurses were kicked out of their HMO. And Serco put four illegal migrants in this HMO. One of these illegal migrants was a Pakistani national. He went on to rape a young girl, a vulnerable young girl, on a park in Asheville. but he's now doing 14 years in prison. This was a monster allowed into this country by this awful government. But if a Prime Minister is really serious about protecting young women and girls,
Starting point is 00:27:37 does he agree with me and Reform UK that every single illegal migrant coming to this country should be detained, not allowed to claim asylum and then deported? Prime Minister. Mr Speaker, I'm very proud of the fact that after net migration, reached almost 1 million under the party opposite, we've brought it down by 82%.
Starting point is 00:27:59 On the asylum system, which he references, now asylum decisions are made at record levels, the backlog is down, removals are up 41% and we're closing asylum hotels. They lost control of our borders, now small boat crossings are coming down and we deported 70,000 people
Starting point is 00:28:17 with no right to be here. He likes to ask questions. He should be asking some questions the leader of his party sitting next to him. He received five million pounds from a crypto billionaire and then privately lobbied the Bank of England on digital currencies. So did their leader carry out lobbying paid? Why did he keep his five million pound gift secret?
Starting point is 00:28:42 And I'm happy with their leader earning 20,000 pounds an hour, flogging gold bullion. They need to ask the questions across their benches, but they never do. As Basil the Great put it, he is a complete psychopath. They don't care that young girls get raped so long as the experiment continues. Now Anderson was furious at the response, given the question was about a vulnerable young woman subjected to an attack by an illegal. So I've just come out of the madhouse, and to be honest, I'm even madder,
Starting point is 00:29:12 because I asked the Prime Minister a perfectly reasonable question about a young vulnerable girl in Ashefield being run. raped by an illegal migrant. It was living in an HMO provider for by the taxpayer in this country. And what did the Prime Minister say as part of his response? He said he was proud of his record. I'm glad this awful Prime Minister is going. It should have been sooner. But my message to Keir Starmour is, just go, man. Go right now. I mean, with answers like that in Parliament, maybe Slippery Starmor is right if you're using the word as a pejorative with his decision.
Starting point is 00:29:49 description of Parliament as the gayest in the world. You could be a lesbian style icon. I like that. I'm really proud that we've got the gayest parliament. I don't think just the ball time anywhere in the world, I don't think there's any parliament that is gayer than this part. That is fantastic. Let me tell you, you stupid man,
Starting point is 00:30:13 being a lesbian style icon is not a compliment. God's sake. Adam Brooks wasn't happy. He rightly pointed out many gay men are embarrassed by this beyond cringe form of identity politics. I'm really proud that we've got the gayest parliament. I don't think just the ball time anywhere in the world. I don't think there's any parliament that is gayer than this point. I don't know about you, but we've got a lot of problems in this country.
Starting point is 00:30:41 We have got terrorism. We've got grooming gangs. We've got young boys being stabbed on the streets. Our economy is on the floor. And this idiot is boasting to a load of people in Downing Street and the world that we have got the gayest parliament in the world. My trust and my belief in these idiots is at rock bottom. I don't care if you're gay, straight, buy or whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I really couldn't care less. But this has no place in our politics. This has no place to be virtual signaling around the world. The gay people I know are embarrassed by this. And now, Rafe, Hidal Manku. Raif, this is the tyranny of wokeery, isn't it? Because you have slippery stammer with a straight face boasted about, oh, we've got the gayest parliament.
Starting point is 00:31:42 You know, at the same time that he has led out without a single word. And, Rafe, we know he always gets involved. in judicial decisions when it's something that he's politically aligned with, you know, like Jaline, Lucy Connolly, for example, more than happy to get involved then, you know, like Jailene's so-called rioters like Peter Lynch, who died behind bars. But when it comes to Shabir Ahmed, the leader of the Rochdale Pakistani Muslim rape gangs, he is released early without a word from Slippery Stama. At the same time, he's boasting about having the gayest parliament in the UK. This is the tyranny of woke,
Starting point is 00:32:26 and it's why I think we're in deep trouble. Do you agree? Yes, I don't know about the gayest parliament. We certainly have the queerest prime minister and the queerist government, queer in the sense of peculiar and bizarre. And, you know, you're absolutely right. What gets me, of course, is that, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:46 we do all get animated about things like Ahmed here, but it shouldn't take this outrageous character on our streets to get us angry because there are hundreds, if not thousands of other people like him, already roaming our streets. They've been roaming our streets for years. So the anger is justified now, but the anger should be there every single day. And, you know, the Tories are trying to make hay out of this as well.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I'm sorry, but we had 14 years where they were capable of reversing the law from 1971. that allegedly makes it impossible for us to deport this person. Pakistan refuses to take him. Now, this man was a British citizen and a Pakistani citizen. We revoked correctly his British citizenship. He's now only a Pakistani citizen. A nation cannot refuse to take somebody who is one of their citizens. But Pakistan is refusing to do that.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Where is the backbone of the legalistic Kyrgyzama? He claims to be a man who enforces international law. International law says Pakistan must take him. back, but he's such a quizzling, he's such a weakling, he's so limp-risted, dare I say, that he refuses to do what is necessary with Pakistan and say, well, you depend upon visas to come here much more than we depend on visas to come over there. We will deny visas to Pakistanis. We will freeze the bank accounts of Pakistani politicians who are money laundering their money through Britain and through business deals and housing projects over here. Until you take
Starting point is 00:34:15 back, not only Ahmed, but every one of those. Pakistani Muslim rapists who was engaged in the industrial scale rape of young girls. It's time we showed some backbone. Islamists, rapists, drug dealers, all of these criminals are having a laugh. They think Britain is a light touch. You see that with the kingpin, the godfather of smuggling, who's working in a mini-mart, right next door to a conservative MP's constituency office and driving around town without a driver's license.
Starting point is 00:34:46 It's time we got real and got serious, and I'm afraid nobody in the Uniparty is willing to do anything other than utter soundbites and hopefully get the red tops to print the soundbites with no actual ambition. Get him. And, I mean, Rave, how do you feel about this breaking news first revealed by the Daily's Holograph that actually there are now vigilantes patrolling the streets of Rochdale to try and keep the victims and the native women safe? And of course the police are also saying, oh, well, we're there too. But rave, this is such a problem. And it's when you get civilizational decline, locals do not trust the police. Because the police were involved in the Rochdale Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. They were not only involved in the cover-up, rape.
Starting point is 00:35:37 They were actually involved in some cases. This should rock the whole nation to its core. it makes me deeply sad, deeply distressed that Britain has got to the point now where people think it's necessary to form vigilantes. You know where you find vigilantes in failed states, in states that are incapable of defending people. You find vigilante groups in places like the American Wild West in the 1800s, right? Vigilante groups come around where there is no state to defend you. And the fact that many people in the broken communities of this country feel that that is the position that they are in, dire indictment of the 21st century and what has happened to this country over the course of that
Starting point is 00:36:20 century. And it's not, of course, just the dispossessed people in the English communities doing this. You also have the Muslim Defence League and Muslim vigilante groups. This is what's happening. Britain is breaking up into ethno-nationalist silos. It's no longer a United Kingdom. It's becoming a united nations. We're introducing a former sectarianism here, which will make what happened in Northern Ireland look like a tea party. And then you have Gary Lineker, you know, who decides, Rave, this is the moment. This is the moment to go on one of those new leftist podcasts and basically peddle out lines that, you know, may have worked on some people 10, 20 years ago, Rafe.
Starting point is 00:37:04 You know, all the immigrants are not taking your jobs. We need them. We need them. But at the same time, decided to array, sorry, to say, to say, decided to degrade those of us who are wrapping ourselves in the St. George's Cross as a way to sort of try and fight back. And he was quite clearly suggesting that those people Rafe were racist and that those people, those of us who are doing that are trying to divide. And I'm like, when will this rhetoric from the left end? Well, it's no surprise that he appeared on the podcast
Starting point is 00:37:38 with the odious Afua Hirsch, one of the grand poop, one of the great, one of the grand pooh bars of race grifting, a woman who was calling for Nelson's column to be toppled years before Black Lives Matter, falsely alleging that he was a racist. I have a special level of contempt for Miss Hirsch. But this is what happens, you see. You know, people who are wrapping themselves around the English flag, it's again, it's like the vigilanteism. It's because they don't see the state, the nation defending Englishness, defending English identity. They feel that they're under attack. There is nobody else left to stand up for England. So they have taken it upon themselves to fly the flag.
Starting point is 00:38:16 They are flying it not in anger. They are firing it. They're flying it as far as I'm concerned as in distress. It's a distress single saying, look, we feel threatened. Somebody please come to our aid. That's what's happening here. And for people like Gary Lineker to try to turn it into some form of attack and smear them by saying that they're racist.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I've never heard anyone saying anything racist who's not a far gone racist. I've never had any decent person. attacking the members of the England team who aren't white. No one is thinking in those ways. And if some people are thinking about that, well, you can blame that on the left too. Because if you remember in the 1980s and 1990s, when you saw sports athletes like Linford Christie or Frank Bruno or Tessa Sanderson, nobody thought of them as they're being anything other than British. Now we automatically see skin color first. And it wasn't the right that created that. It was the left that created this toxic atmosphere by forcing people into unconscious bias,
Starting point is 00:39:13 which we know makes people more intolerant, not less intolerant. And of course, by constantly talking about race and color and trying to shoehorn that into every single subject, even now science is racist? Is it any surprise if people are being forced to see colour first? Science is racist. Air conditioning is racist. I heard this week, Rafe, too, or is at least far right. Air conditioning is far right.
Starting point is 00:39:37 The problem is the UK is in such deep trouble, in part, because the mainstream media are so determined to focus on the wrong things. And one of their absolute obsessions is trying to cancel people who are calling out the madness. And of course we know Tommy Robinson is top of that list. And he has been for years. But it doesn't stop. And I think it's becoming more chilling and more disturbing. Because he launched a new Spotify podcast in the past couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:40:09 It's very good. I'll play you some of it shortly. And this is in part something that Tommy is now allowed to do because US tech giants under Donald Trump have moved away from censorship. However, the British mainstream media these days, I'm actually ashamed by them. I mean, I used to be part of the British mainstream media. I'm disgusted by them now because all they want to do is cancel people who are prepared to have the difficult conversations. And case and point is the metro newspaper, which is actually owned by the same people who are, own the Daily Mail, but has turned into a wotopian joke of a newspaper. And this particular journalist
Starting point is 00:40:49 called Luke Olsford has decided to make it his life's mission to get Tommy Robinson cancelled and to pile the pressure on to a company like Spotify so that they just say, oh, you know what, it's not worth the hassle. Fine, we'll take him off the platform. And very often this works. But what's great is that Tommy Robinson, thanks to the X platform, is now able to fight back. And he did fight back by going toe to toe with this stuttering fool of a Metro journalist called Luke Olsford. So before he makes the call, this is how he sets up. This is Tommy Robinson setting up what this approach from Metro is all about. PayPal anything. The Metro newspaper attack us. And they're doing it again. So they've contacted my lawyers, solicitors. I hope you're well. I'm Luke, a reporter of Metro
Starting point is 00:41:41 from the UK. We're getting in touch. We believe you represent Tommy Ombudsman. I'm getting in touch about how a new podcast on Spotify, we've heard from anti-racism groups and politicians who are critical as Spotify's decision to give him a platform and want to give him a chance to respond. This is an attack, yeah? It is an attack. And what's interesting is Metro is trying to get Spotify to cancel him, but actually the thrust of the argument they're making is wrong. Spotify's own rules explicitly prohibit content that dehumanizes or incites violence against marginalised communities. With only marginalised communities,
Starting point is 00:42:11 right now is the white English community and the white British community. We're the marginalised ones. We're the ones under attack. We're the ones being raped and we're the ones being murdered. And we're talking up for them. He then, and this is what I love about Tommy, he decided to pick up the phone to the woke wet MSM Metro reporter. Spotify will be bombarded. Once they go mainstream, the Metro, big newspaper, London, it will cause a avalanche of protest against Spotify. That's what this is. This is an organised attack by Luke Alstford.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Luke Alstford who of course of course looks like this of course that's Luke Alstford I'm going to attack free speech
Starting point is 00:42:54 Luke Alstford yeah so now we're going to ring Luke Alstford and still we've got to say ask him a few questions put him in the hot spot for a minute okay typical typical journalist trying to shut down free speech hello is this
Starting point is 00:43:11 hi Luke it's Tommy Robinson thanks for a corner I appreciate it. No problem. Yeah, I mean... I just want to have the opportunity, Luke, to answer your question. And let's just say that was the nicest exchange of the phone call because it turned heated fast when a stuttering Luke was asked by Tommy
Starting point is 00:43:30 whether he'd actually bothered to listen to the podcast. Yeah, what do you have to say in response? Luke, have you watched the podcast? I've listened to something about it. I haven't listened to all of it. Yeah. Well, maybe you should listen to it. watch it before you ask me questions, no? Because anything you've watched, is there anything that's fueling violence, inciting violence in any way, breaks any law? I think there's two points.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I'll ask you answer to your question. They talk about, in an interview, there is a talk about you need to rise up the birth rates because of the high Muslim birth rates in the where your guest, which is a new migration, which is controversial. Luke Controversial facts No matter how controversial shouldn't get someone cancelled, okay? Is there anything
Starting point is 00:44:31 because you just mentioned that we're talking about high birth rates of Muslims compared to non-Muslims, that's a fact. So is there anything in that podcast which youth can tell me now that is fueling violence or encouraging violence
Starting point is 00:44:44 or inciting violence? Anti-vacism keeps? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Luke, Luke, forget the antivacistism. Let me tell you something. You quoted Tell Mama, right? You quoted Tell Mama, yeah? Tell Mama. Tell Mama lost a legal pursuit in 2014 against Andrew Gilligan because they lied. They exaggerated anti-Muslim attacks. They exaggerated and fact, right? They are not a legitimate source for you as a journalist to ring me up to quote them. What you're trying to do here as mainstream media and for the Metro, you do this every time.
Starting point is 00:45:20 You're trying to attack a platform that I have a platform on, i.e. Spotify, you want them to remove me. This is an attack on free speech. Tommy then produced his receipts about the Quran to silence the hapless MSM reporter once again. You mentioned that Spotify has a rule already that prohibits content that dehumanizes or incites violence. We've established you're not going to answer, but there's nothing. There's incites violence. If I described them all as cattle, would that be dehumanising for them? Yes, I would say so good.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Okay. Well, the Quran describes all non-Muslims as cattle. So would you agree that the Quran, based on your opinion, is dehumanising towards non-Muslims? Luke. It's not about my personal opinion. It's about your personal opinion. You're a journalist. No, you're trying to write a hippie saying that I'm dehumanising people.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I'll give you a fact. Now, Sarah Owen MP, I guess she's Labour, right? Yes. That doesn't surprise me. a Labour MP who opposes free speech as well. You're a journalist. You've watched the interview. There's nothing dehumanising. There's nothing illegal and there's nothing that's not factual. Okay? There's two people having a conversation. Do you believe in free speech or not? You? I didn't believe in free speech, yes.
Starting point is 00:46:46 But he doesn't. He doesn't. Because he wouldn't even answer Tommy's very important questions straight. Did you contact Tell Mama or did they contact you to ask for their opinion? I want to know. because I will contact lawyers about this. So did you contact Tell Mama or did Tell Mama contact you, the newspaper? We've spoken to groups. I'm asking you. Who contacted who?
Starting point is 00:47:11 You contact them or they contact you? I really appreciate it. Luke, you contacted them, didn't you? No, Luke, Luke, you contacted them, didn't you? You're running the smit, so you've contacted groups to say, to saying, no, simple answer to the question. Did you contact stand up to racism and tell Mama? Or did they contact you?
Starting point is 00:47:33 Some groups have been posted. Did you contact them or did they contact you, Luke? Simple question, me. Did they contact you or did you contact them? Then we know whether you're running a smear campaign and a bullshit story. You've contacted them. So you've contacted them, you've seen them on Spotify,
Starting point is 00:47:53 you've contacted groups that you know hate me in order to get some negative words then you can run a big story in order to put pressure to de-platform me off of Spotify, right? Luke? Mr. I believe in free speech? Yep, that's how it works. Now, Luke hadn't listened to the podcast.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I have. I think it's fascinating, actually. Certainly doesn't incite any violence. One of the first guess is the brilliant Eva Vladenbrook. I absolutely love her. And she explains to Tommy actually how it was her teachers who radicalized her. So how old are you? How old was you then, 2014-15?
Starting point is 00:48:28 I was 18. 18, okay. 18 at university. That's when Angela Merkel opened the gates. Yeah, yeah. So those were the debates that we were having. And then if you are in front of an international law teacher who tells you that that's the best thing in the world, because, you know, borders are evil and everyone is welcome here and we should help people in need.
Starting point is 00:48:47 And if you then, as an 18, 19 year old, sit there and say, but wait, is this a culture that's compatible with ours? Very, you know, I always joke about it. Very, like, mainstream questions I asked, right? I was not nearly where I am now saying things about demographic change. I was just wondering simple things about, you know, clash of cultures and religions. And we weren't talking about like replacements, like, you know, I am now. And even that was immediately shut down so harsh and so violently by those professors that I had, that it only like reinforced me, I suppose, in going that direction.
Starting point is 00:49:31 asking more and more questions. So my teachers radicalised me quite a lot. And yes, they did discuss changing demographics. They did discuss birth rates. But guess what? Metro newspaper, they did so using facts and statistics. What do we do with the demographics? Let's talk about the demographics because you've spoke about this a lot. You're the advocate for this. Elon Musk has mentioned about family. How do we change the demographics? When we're having 1.3 children, the Muslim community, having three to five children, some say as high as 5.6, some say 3.2. That's across Europe, I think it's 7.1 in France.
Starting point is 00:50:09 How do you do that? How do we, as free liberal democracies, how do we deal with the encroaching and growing Islamic community, which is hostile to our nation in France, in Britain and Sweden, in Holland, in Italy? It's just the unwillingness of our political class, because they want this. They want this. They want the immigration to happen and they want the birth dates to stay low. That's like, that's, you know, you look at what they've been doing for all of these years. It's like you infer the motive.
Starting point is 00:50:39 You know, even if they don't say it out like, just infer the motive. It's right in front of your eyes. So, you know, you're not going to, you're not going to tell me that they're not able to pull this off because it costs a lot. Of course they can do it. Of course, they can do it. And of course, remigration can be done if you want it. The legal instruments are already there. They just have to be enforced.
Starting point is 00:50:56 That's it. Okay. So, if they can't get a. podcast canceled, there's another thing the leftists are doing with Tommy Robinson. And I'm sure you've seen this online. And Tommy has decided to deal with it straight up. And I respect that. Because the leftists are trying to use a video clip of Tommy in his interview with Karl Stefanovic, the interview that got Carl Stefanovic sacked by Channel 9 in Australia, by the way, where he'd been their top present for 25 years. But that's a whole other story, which we've
Starting point is 00:51:27 discussed in a previous show. They're trying to situation. that because Tommy Robinson had a bit of a sniffle during that interview that he is on drugs. And this is the video that they are doing to spread that, that they're using, excuse me, to spread that lie. I guess. So I spent 12 to 18 months in a city called Telford and I spent time with dozens of girls and families getting to know them and hearing their story and building a, and when I knocked on the door, I've got them all bangs of rights.
Starting point is 00:52:00 they're all paid. So I said, okay, and the worst thing is about this. So do you think now where things are at, you mentioned the by-election, Andy Burnham, it looks like he's, you know, why not? Because this is a great country,
Starting point is 00:52:15 and it's just so lost. No, I think this is why you're so fascinating because you sit outside of the established parties and the established movements, even if reformers come, as restorers come from reform. And now you condemn me, and now you're literally reading my playbook.
Starting point is 00:52:29 But this is literally happening in Australia. with the One Nation Party. I love her, Pauline. And actually they're catching fire in the electorate. Yeah. It's not the best place. You know that. That's my mate over there.
Starting point is 00:52:42 The security guy. And it was on 200,000 views. Now, and my son goes, Dad, daddy's screaming, yeah? Because I sat my son down and said, But when leftist Fiona Rose wrote about that interview on X, Tommy hit back.
Starting point is 00:52:59 So she said donations straight up his nose And he replied It's called hay fever, you dumb bitch Tommy also erupted at critics complaining He now spends much of his time outside of the UK Where he is subjected to various fatwas Collett Elliott posted This dickhead doesn't even live in the country
Starting point is 00:53:20 We live in this hellhole You come over for a protest then scurry off Tommy responded Because I was fighting the fight for 15 years whilst you were doing what? I've had three cars firebombed, my houses attacked, children and family threatened with murder,
Starting point is 00:53:36 made bankrupt and had every bank in the UK closed me down. I'm surviving, darling. Tommy then outlined his bold new approach, which even includes telling the Attorney General to go F himself. I've now got X. So I make a video saying, hey, Mr. Attorney General, go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 00:53:54 I'm back. I'm here. So whatever you do, people are going to see it. So I make the video just say, go do one here. I fly back to England, hold a demonstration. But the main point is, we held a demonstration. It was all over the news, and it was lots of men turned up, thousands of us. So Rave Hidal-Manku, Tommy Robinson certainly has his voice back.
Starting point is 00:54:18 And people can love and people can hate him. You don't have to listen to him. So why is the mainstream media, Rave, so determined to get big tech to cancel him. What are they so afraid of? Why does the Metro want Spotify to ban the Tommy Robinson podcast because they think it's so dangerous, Rafe? Well, I think the Metro is short for a metropolitan,
Starting point is 00:54:48 liberal values. It constantly comes up in my news feed and amidst all the inane, the inane, terrible art you'll get this nihilistic self-hatred articles. And I always click on the author. And they invariably are this spindly little chaps like Luke Alsford. You know, these cotton wool, silver spoon in mouth, middle class figures who've never seen a day's work in their life. There's a very specific type of...
Starting point is 00:55:16 With a nose ring, Ralph. With a nose ring. Always in their early 20s. I think I don't think anybody of a pretty rights for the Metro. It's the same type of person representing a very different, world view, obviously, than the rest of the country. Metro is, you know, it's a free newspaper because no one's going to spend any money buying the bloody thing. But yes, there's a particular, there's a particular target over Tommy Robinson. Nothing that Tommy Robinson said in that
Starting point is 00:55:43 interview with Ava is something that you and I haven't discussed in the past. I discuss it every week, three times a week at the New Culture Forum channel. Douglas Murray talks about all the same thing. We don't get these campaigns against us, do we? There's a specific thing about Tommy Robinson, I think ultimately is deeply rooted in classism. I think it's very much a hatred and an assumptions about the working class that are made. And Tommy Robinson, of course, becomes the poster boy for all of that elitism. I think that's a huge part of it. And I think they're generally afraid of him, because I think he's generally tapped in to that anger, which has the capability of uniting an English people who feel dispossessed, who feel that their children are going to be denied their inheritance,
Starting point is 00:56:25 an inheritance of a thousand years of tradition. Next year we celebrate a thousand years of England as a state. And I think that puts the fear of God into them. And of course, he's a person who speaks without the airs and graces and niceties that perhaps we do. He speaks to that raw element of Englishness, which makes the metropolitan elite extremely uncomfortable. And so you do get these smears. You know, I didn't listen to his podcast fully,
Starting point is 00:56:51 but everything he said to Luke Olsford is factually correct. everything he discussed with Ava clearly is also factually correct. And it's the same pattern. And of course, you know, we just had in the last couple of days the Canary, an equally vapid and violent, left-wing organization, B, debanked. And what was the first thing that the right wing did? You know, the Free Speech Union isn't right wing, but the Free Speech Union, the Libertarian Free Speech Union,
Starting point is 00:57:13 but other people on the right, we immediately came to the defence of the Canary because the principle of free speech must stand no matter who is being cancelled. You don't see that from the left. you see from the left are the sorts of terrible campaigns you have here to silence somebody. Luckily, Spotify is an American platform and they do hold dear to the principle of freedom of speech. But it's the same thing. I hope so, Rafe, because I do remember that Spotify was great.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Do you remember when a whole load of artists, woke artists, tried to get Joe Rogan cancelled off the platform and even Harry and Megan threw a strop, you know, because remember at the time, they were sort of part of the podcast elite, the leftist podcast elite. And Spotify held firm. But the difference there is that Joe Rogan was someone who they were paying a huge amount of money, who was bringing a lot of people to their platform. Look, I really, really hope these big tech companies hold firm. But I mean, just today, Rafe, in the past couple of hours,
Starting point is 00:58:13 we've seen Lisa Nandi, the Culture Secretary, swan off. Elon Musk's platform throwing a massive huff. And she's taken the Department of Culture with her. So she said, not only am I quitting X, because I don't like the fact that people are saying you're a terrible person, your government's terrible. I'm also going to take the Department of Culture with me. Now, that's the same department, Rafe,
Starting point is 00:58:41 that has to engage with all social media platforms. It's very, very concerning this desire for censorship. let me just actually find what she posted. It was just an hour ago, Rafe, just before we came on air. Lisa and Andy posted, I've decided to leave this platform and my department will too. A platform originally designed for free speech and expression now favours abuse and misinformation over meaningful debate. It isn't healthy for our democracy or our communities and I don't want to support it. Now, that is the woman, Rafe, who is in charge of which of these platforms should be censored.
Starting point is 00:59:19 And so we immediately know that she is going to be against X and Elon Musk because it's a free speech platform. I mean, this is chilling. And we always knew this is what we were getting with this Labour government, but it doesn't make it any less chilly. That's right. And the audacity of her to claim that in some way it's not a free speech platform. And of course, it is thanks to Elon Musk that the world's attention was brought to the rape gangs.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Remember that it's been thanks to Elon Musk that the cold light has been shone onto so many things that the Labour government then indeed the Tories wanted to put under the carpet. But of course, that is why they want to silence places like X, because the mainstream media and the government still sing from the same hymn sheet. They don't want us to know the reality of what's happening on the ground. During the Southport protests, remember, during the Southport riots, it was on X that we saw the Muslim Defence League, fully armored in their body gear and machetes on the streets on an interview.
Starting point is 01:00:18 view. And of course, that wasn't broadcast by any of the mainstream media. If it wasn't for X, the British people wouldn't have a clue about what is really happening in this land. And the government can't stand that they can't control this narrative at all. That's why there's a war against it. But remember, there are 20 million X accounts in this country. So what Lisa Nandi is saying is basically, it's no different to Hillary Clinton calling Trump voters deplorables. Indeed. And if you are on X, if you subscribe to all this stuff, I have no time for you. You're actually not part of civilized discussion.
Starting point is 01:00:53 I don't think that it's worth speaking to you. I'm sure where she is speaking is on blue sky, where everyone, all the snowflakes fled off to blue sky. But if you go onto blue sky, my God, are there dark corners there? Their hatred. Remember, most of these assassination attempts on leaders now come from the left. The terrorism of the green lobby, the violence we see is increasingly coming from people on the left, as opposed to this book of mythical far right. That's happening on blue sky,
Starting point is 01:01:18 but for some reason they have no history with any of that. And of course, Outspoken is available on Spotify, so you can subscribe to us and help us actually in the podcast chart because it's so left-wing dominated. And it's really important. I mean, look, obviously, so much of the success of Outspoken is driven by YouTube. But it's really important that we also tackle these podcast platforms too.
Starting point is 01:01:44 because who wants Gary Lineker and Alistair Campbell to be leading those charts. Breaking today, Prince Harry has just lost the plot. I know a lot of you will think that happened a long time ago, but this is the height of insanity. The madman, and I really do mean that, has leaked his own security report, which he had previously submitted to the government to try and get you, to try and get me, British taxpayers,
Starting point is 01:02:17 to spend millions and millions of pounds a year to ensure that he has armed guards wherever he goes in the world. He has leaked this to his propagandists at Woke ITV, suggesting that he is such a terror target ahead of his planned visit next week with Megan Markle and his two children, Archie and Lily. Now, Megan's real fear is that no one's going to turn up or that she will be booed,
Starting point is 01:02:42 and so she continues to allow Harry to think that they are just after him, and that terrorists could target him. Of course, this is a report that he paid for himself, so it should immediately be dismissed by the mainstream media, but instead the woketopians at Woke ITV and the Good Morning Britain show decided that this was headline news. announcing just days before Prince Harry is expected to return to the UK, ITV News has seen a confidential security report claiming the Duke faces six terrorist threats,
Starting point is 01:03:17 five of which allegedly originate in Britain. The report prepared by the Sussex's private security form, there's the cue. They pay them $3 million a year. Also argues Harry's protection officers are prevented from adequately responding to an armed attack while he is in the UK. And the Channel's royal editor, Chris Ship, lost all credibility, by posting as fact why Prince Harry's safety risk is much greater in the UK than any other country.
Starting point is 01:03:43 More terrorist threats against him or originate in the UK and how the FBI alerted him of an assassination plot because of his military service in Afghanistan. Well, Chris, you know it's not because of his military service in Afghanistan. At least you should be honest with your audience. We all know the reason that Harry has made himself particularly vulnerable to Islamists despite being on the left is because he admitted in his author. autobiography spare that his kill count was 25 Taliban soldiers, which was not only crass and gross and made him really quite an embarrassment to the British Army. It was also something that
Starting point is 01:04:18 put a target on his head. All of that happened when he was a private citizen working out of America for big bucks. But Chris Shipp then went on the ITV news and tried to present this report as if it is something that should be being taken seriously. Yeah, Chris, take us through what you've learned. So, Nina, as you say, Prince Harry is due back next week. What we don't know at this point is, is he going to come back on his own, or is he going to come back with Megan and the children, which was his plan, and that's what he wants to do. The reason why he's having to make this decision is because he thought he'd get a change in his security apparatus when he's in the UK, and he's now been told he won't. So what we've seen is a report that was submitted by Prince Harry's security team to the committee.
Starting point is 01:05:09 here in the UK that decides who gets what when it comes to royal protection. But there is a huge amount of pushback today to Chris Ship taking this report so seriously, as Richard Eden of the Daily Mail put it. If this is the case, wouldn't it have been wise for Harry not to have boasted in his memoirs about how many Afghans he had killed? Tori Baccahaye on X said so dumb, unemployed Prince Harry gets a garbage security report written for him and Chris Ship publicizes it like Dumbo is an important world. Peter. What an absolute fast. And Royal YouTube Sensation, a contributor here on outspoken,
Starting point is 01:05:44 according to Tas made the point that if Harry actually truly does feel that there is such a serious threat against his family in the UK, then why the hell is he actually bringing his children here? She says he either has no intentions of bringing Archie and Lillian has just used them to pressure and to emotionally blackmail his father by lying, or he knows deep down that there is no major threat and he's still using the children to get what he wants. But the Royal Gryft is even concerned that Harry could try and engineer some type of false flag attack. She said, I can see these two harming others around them to prove to the home office he is a target. Sounds like Harry is foreshadowing it.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Now, Rave Hidal Manku is a royal historian. And, Rave, before we get into the details of this bombshell, report from ITV. I think we do just have to talk about the overall context of this decision, Rave, because ITV as a news organisation is just taking this report seriously, taking it at face value, whereas this report is actually prepared by a team of security experts who Prince Harry pays $3 million a year too. And what my belief is, Raph, and this hasn't been reported, the mainstream media, but I am convinced of it, is that the reason Harry wants protected status here in the United Kingdom is that once you get it, you have it forever and you have it wherever in the
Starting point is 01:07:18 world you go. I know for a fact, right, that all of our former prime ministers, Rafe, and let's be honest, they're growing at quite a rate of knots at the moment. Slippery Starmer will be the next to receive this. Their security is virtually never taken away, even though there are sort of regular checks. And that means, Rafe, it doesn't matter where in the world they are. They have that security. So if Slippri Stama goes on holiday to the Maldives in three weeks time, we pay for security to follow him around the world. It costs millions and millions of pounds, Rafe. And how insane that he's not a working member of the royal family, that he slagged off our country, that he slagged off the royals. I had actually argued tried to end them by pushing these false racism complaints, yet he still wants us to pay.
Starting point is 01:08:04 And you see what I'm saying, Ray, it's not just that he would. receive security when he was in the UK. He would receive it wherever he is in the world, because that's what happens if you get that protected status. Yeah, you may very well be right on that front. And so, of course, the argument is quite clear. With the privilege, you know, with the privilege of getting security like that comes responsibility. You don't, there's no free lunch in this world. And, well, he had the benefit of enjoying a free lunch when he was young, but the time has come now where you actually have to do your duty. He has failed miserably to do his duty.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Just being a member of the Royal Family doesn't entitle you to that. As you said, it's been due to his own lack of discretion because of his own choices and decisions that he's made himself into a security risk. But I can't help but go back to what you're saying. This is not a real security report. This is an advocacy report paid by him essentially because he's funding this company to essentially make the case that he himself wasn't capable of making successfully after six years of trying to persuade the government to restore his state-funded police protection.
Starting point is 01:09:14 And of course, how have they done this? Well, they spent a huge amount of time, it seems to me by reading what I read, try to suggest that the real threats coming to Prince Harry were from the far right. Once again, this is how convenient. How convenient! And I thought, really, because all the online far right that I've read, have been really anti-monarchy. So I don't really think if there is this real far-right
Starting point is 01:09:37 that they are monarchist in any sense whatsoever. And I just don't care. And would have any interest in dealing with the royal family at all. So that's the first thing I would point out that, you know, I don't think Prince Harry would be on the radar of anybody on the far rights because he's a traitor to the monarchy. I mean, many of them regard members of the royal family themselves as being traitors to the monarchy.
Starting point is 01:09:55 So that certainly doesn't hold true. The second thing to say is, my God, we've just had in the last few days, the Princess of Wales popping up on a three peak challenge without having, you know, which obviously is a very highly risky place to be, open to everybody, not a very easy place if you had knowledge of that where you could go and strike there. So we have members of the Royal Family quite clearly. She was just recently outside of the Royal Box at Wimbledon going to other places as well, which we may discuss later.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Point is other members of the Royal Family are willing to take more risks with their lives. they are outside of the Royal Family. You know, we have this excuse that they can't come to the UK because of the security threat. You know, members of the Royal Family have been going abroad for years secretly without anyone knowing.
Starting point is 01:10:42 The late Queen would go to Kentucky all the time to go and visit her friends in the horse breeding business. Prince Charles, Prince Andrew, Prince Edward would go on trips to Canada, which were never recorded officially. There was nothing stopping Harry and Megan jumping onto a plane
Starting point is 01:10:57 at any point in the summer and going to Balmoral. and visiting Prince Charles and nobody would have known about that visit at all. Exactly, but they don't want to do that, Rafe, because they want to use the visit in order to stop having to pay. Because here's the thing,
Starting point is 01:11:12 they're on financial dire straits, and we know that their annual security bill, Rafe, is $3 million US dollars a year. They can't afford to keep paying it. Do you see what I'm saying? So that's why they want to force the British government to give it so they can stop paying it. By the way, I'm so glad that you mentioned
Starting point is 01:11:30 Catherine, because of course the Three Peaks is a great example, but I think this Wimbledon example is actually even more telling Rafe, because look at that today. So she's on court 18, I think, Rafe, if you know Wimbledon. And look, people are passing behind her. Do you see that? And as Roy Lee Sage put it, she's sitting there where people can walk by without drama about security. This is the future queen of England. And so Harry is trying to. to create a dire situation here. I do think a lot of this is because he has gone a bit mad and there's a lot of psychedelics involved.
Starting point is 01:12:10 There's a lot of marijuana involved. He's been very open about that. And of course, we know Megan Markle has really tried to increase his paranoia. Like if you think about the Netflix Harry and Megan documentary rave, she wanted him to be so worried about the fact that there were paparazzi's following their car in New York City and she was really trying to push him to be afraid of that. I mean, the irony of that, given this is the woman who used to, you know, hello, paparazzi, come and follow me. I'm going to be at Soho House at this time. I mean, the irony of that. But also, if you're a supportive wife,
Starting point is 01:12:48 you should say, darling, it doesn't matter. You know, paparazzi's always follow celebrities in New York. It's not a big deal. But she wasn't doing that. She was trying to make him feel afraid. So I do think that has been an aspect of this? Yes. Do you want to call it coercive control? I don't know. I do think so. I do think so. The Duchess of duplicity has form here, right? Firstly, of course, you know, she's very much a Montecito princess. And if you look at the security details surrounding great American movie stars or American pop stars, I mean, they have a larger security detail than members of the
Starting point is 01:13:25 royal families. So she probably has dreams of being like an Oprah Winfrey or a Kanye West or I don't know many Americans think it's of the moment now to cite other great celebrities. But I think she may want the status of having that sort of security detail around her. But of course, you put her finger on it earlier on. I think she's trying to wind up Harry as well and make every possible, make every possible gambit that the British government won't grant security status and therefore Prince Harry won't take her over there. she doesn't want to be booed. She never wants to come to this country.
Starting point is 01:13:59 So she's trying to convince Harry actually that he'll never be able to take his family over there. I think that's deeply at the route here because the one thing she can't stand is the idea of being rejected by the British public and she knows that that's inevitably going to happen if she comes over. Totally.
Starting point is 01:14:15 And she's so scared about being booed, of course. But look, Rafe, let's go through the report because, you know, Chris Schiff is taking it very, seriously. And this report is what has been sent to Ravik, which is the government committee that decides whether Harry is under threat. So Chris Shirk reports that he faces an elevated risk from terror plots. And he argues that he is the focus of six terrorist plots, five of which originated in the UK. That is according to what he describes
Starting point is 01:14:57 as a highly sensitive security report seen by ATV News. Now this hasn't been leaked by the government, okay? This has been leaked directly from Prince Harry and his team to Chris Schip at Wokai TV. And Schip says the revelations come as the Duke of Sussex is preparing to travel to the UK and has still not decided whether to bring his family to his home country which he considers is unsafe.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Remember, I've been two. Colombia, they've been to Nigeria, they've been to Chicago, but he feels that the UK is unsafe. Okay. The report commissioned by Harry's own private security firm details dozens of threats and potential attacks facing the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and includes an Al-Qaeda document which called for his assassination. The document was submitted to the UK Security Committee tasked with deciding whether Harry should get state-funded protection when he travels in the country. The whereabouts of four of the convicted individuals associated with the terrorist threats against Harry are currently unknown to the private security firm employed
Starting point is 01:15:54 by the Sussexes. The confidential risk assessment was prepared for the Prince in February and was sent to the Ravik Committee. It decides which high-profile politicians and members of the royal family get police protection paid by the Home Office. A copy of the report which has been obtained by ITV News found that there are at least six plots against the Duke from jihadist and right-wing threat actors that have targeted other high-profile Britons. The US-based security firm employed by Harry and Megan highlighted that the highest priority threat to the Sussex family comes from terrorism, also known as grassroots or lone actor terrorism. The threat and vulnerability risk assessment marked confidential reports that the UK's
Starting point is 01:16:39 metropolitan police, I presume, are aware of nearly 500 potential stalkers targeting the royal family, of which half have demonstrated a threat against Prince Harry, Megan and their two children. Despite Harry and his children being fifth, sixth and seventh and line to the throne, he had his automatic royal protection removed in 2020. Harry claims he was promised a review each year. However, none has taken place, he believes. He's travelling to his home country for a series of events and had already announced he would travel with Megan and the children. But Harry's office says they received a letter at the end of
Starting point is 01:17:20 last week saying they could have the phone number of a police liaison officer during the visit, but nothing more. I sort of love that because it's shade from the British government and the police, right? It's basically them saying, we're not buying into this. Here's the phone number. I sort of love it. You're no different to Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg or any other high profile, very rich individual that flies into the country. But Chris Ship went on that Harry's security company does provide personnel to accompany him when he travels overseas, but their report acknowledges that the protection teams cannot carry guns on UK soil and concludes that UK authorities are much better position to provide him with more comprehensive protection.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Without being able to carry lethal weapons, it concludes Harry's private protection officers are prevented from adequately responding to an armed attack from a terrorist, criminal or mentally unstable actor. Only UK police with authorisation from Ravit can carry lethal weapons while protecting the Duke. Its assessment is that the only way to mitigate residual risks to the Duke is to provide him with state-backed security. Surprise, surprise, that's the conclusion that Harry paid a lot of money for. The document notes that despite quitting his role as a working member of the royal family, Harry is still the king's son and remains a symbol of the crown. I would disagree with that actually, but okay, that's how he sees it.
Starting point is 01:18:39 It adds extremists with grievances against Great Britain, including jihadists or others that oppose the Commonwealth, pose a considerable threat and do not take his specific role into account. The Duke has been the target of specific jihadist threats ever since serving in Afghanistan. In 2023, the FBI informed Prince Harry's security team that had received intelligence from overseas that senior leaders in Al Qaeda had published a document on a closed channel on the telegram messaging service, specifically referencing the assassination of the Duke of Sussex. The document which came to the FBI from another intelligence agency had called on followers living in the West to kill Air Force personnel who had operated in Afghanistan or supporting Israel and that have killed Muslims. Now, it's interesting that Harry doesn't think the FBI should protect him. Paid for by the US government, isn't it? It was in this context that Harry's name was mentioned as he has served in Afghanistan. Other threats listed included a May 2023 attempt to access Harry and Megan's home in Montecito by a man carrying a hammer and duct tape.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Oh, again, I note that security threat happened in America, not the United Kingdom. It also includes documents on how fixated individuals have Harry threatened Harry's safety referring to how in January of this year. A woman known to the vet's fixated threat assessment center twice gained access to the courtroom in London's High Court. Now, I've blown this apart before, right? This is just a member of the Sussex squad. It's just a crazy fan. It's a crazy fan. Chris Ship has actually had his picture with this woman.
Starting point is 01:20:08 I've shown it on previous shows. So this is just a fan. There she is. Honestly, not a threat. This is desperate. This is desperate because this is all he's got. Basically a fan. You've got to be crazy.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Okay, admit, you've got to be crazy if you're a fan who travels around the world to see Prince Harry. Yep, you're crazy. Right? I agree with you. She's not trying to kill him. Okay? She's just a fan.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Ship goes on. His private security firm also says that is tracking 28 people who have demonstrated dangerous stalking behavior targeting. the Sussex family. And it clearly states that the safety risk to Harry and Megan is much more elevated in the UK where a majority of the most serious threats have originated. Harry's lack of state-funded protection means anyone wanting to make an attack against the British royal family could conclude that the Duke is the most vulnerable member of the family, says the report. Harry has always suspected, and this is where we get to the nub of the issue. And the paranoia,
Starting point is 01:21:01 the nuttiness, he thinks the royal family are out to kill him because he says Harry has always suspected senior courtiers around his father and brother dragging him. And he's Pagging Prince William into this, who has nothing to do with it, do not want him to have state-funded security. King Charles, who is in Scotland this week, has not seen as grandchildren, Archie and Lily since 2022, but Buckingham Palace says all issues of security and matter for the Home Office and the King can not get involved. That's true. The Home Office said its protective security system is rigorous and proportionate, but would not give details around individual arrangements. Now, Rafe, I've never seen anything more crazy than this in my life. Like, public figures do not
Starting point is 01:21:37 talk about their security for an issue for a reason, Rafe. Like, they do not talk about these issues for a reason. You know, a man has been jailed because of security threats against me in the past. I don't shout about it. I don't talk about it. If you spend your life, Rafe, looking for threats, you, me, Tommy Robinson, we could all never leave the house. And unfortunately, this is all Harry has got. But to outline these threats in a document like this intended to be privately received by the British government, only to leak it to a UK media organisation when you claim you hate the media. I mean, this is, it's truly nuts. It's almost like he's just saying, attack me, attack me so that I can get my security paid for. What is he thinking? Yeah, it's almost like
Starting point is 01:22:34 He wants to say, you know, he wants to have his nose cut off basically just to say, you know, I told you I was a risk. You know, I told you I was at risk. This is what happened. It's your fault now that this attempt has been made on me. I think paranoia does lie at the heart of this. I think he's convinced that the family, his own family are influencing Ravec. We know that he mistakenly or incorrectly asserted that his brother had representation at Ravik, something, of course, we know wasn't true, but he seems to believe that that is the case. and I think much of this is linked to that hugely as well. But you put your finger on it earlier on, you know, I would say that there's a much higher risk of an attack on someone like Elon Musk, who we know that the far left, with all of their extremists, loathe and detest,
Starting point is 01:23:19 if Elon Musk comes to the UK on an unofficial visit, he won't get security details, yet he's at far higher risk, he will just have to deal with his own security risk. Why does Prince Harry think he's entitled to a greater level of security than that? as well. Exactly, because if there is a specific threat, Ray, sorry to interrupt, but it's a really important point. If there is a specific threat, like a terror threat,
Starting point is 01:23:42 security will immediately be provided. Because Harry's team keep on trying to say this lying rave, and it's not true. This is the problem. They just lie through their teeth. It makes me sick that journalists just swallow it. They keep saying, oh, Taylor Swift gets security when she comes to the UK. No, she got security, rave for a very specific incident
Starting point is 01:23:59 where there had been a security, sorry, an al-Qaeda terror threat on her concert in Vienna, in Austria. And then do you remember what happened with Axel Ruda Cabana? Where did the stabbing take place at a Taylor Swift dance class? So so as not to lose Taylor Swift's concerts, which were bringing more than a billion pounds into the UK economy, she was given government security for that one tour, the ERAs tour. That was it, because there was a specific threat.
Starting point is 01:24:30 So if there were any specific threats against Prince Harry, would receive all of that. Yeah, I would just go to make that very same point. You know, one of the great things about this country is we have one of the world's greatest secret service systems, both with MI5, MI6 and with GCHQ. I'm fully confident that, you know, these sorts of these sorts of security risks are flagged up very early by our security services, and the right level of security will be provided. And Ravec has always said that. And every trip will be judged on its own merits in terms of what security. is given.
Starting point is 01:25:05 But as you say, a lot of these risks that are highlighted in the report simply wouldn't meet any standard threshold of our security services. They refer to 262 suspicious persons. But, you know, what counts is suspicious according to them? Who decided on all of that? A lot of this is, as is said, with fixated people. Fixated people are just superfans who are stalkers or, you know, have personality. Groupies.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Groupies. They followed the Rolling Stones for decades. you know. Exactly. They're not trying to kill McJagger. And of course, you have to remember in this country, one of the reasons we have so many stabbings is nobody has a gun, right? Guns are not part of our life and our culture here. Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Although Islam's terror threats are in fairness. Yeah, there's a much greater risk, as you say, of going around America, of going to Colombia or going to South Africa, where, of course, we know that gun crime is a much, much more serious issue. And those threats that are more real. Again, I dismiss outright the far right place. I mean, anybody who understands the real threats from far-right extremism know that it's politicians and its judges who are actually the ones who are most at risk.
Starting point is 01:26:12 It's not Prince Harry. I'm sure there are risks to Prince Harry from Islamists, as any member of the Royal Family would be at risk from Islamists. But again, the British government has always, the British Secret Service have always been very good at identifying that, and they haven't identified Prince Harry as being at a particularly high risk at the moment, which is why he's not getting any of this where where he's, where he comes to the UK next week. Indeed.
Starting point is 01:26:35 I mean, just looking at the comments, Rafe, Capricorn Moon made me laugh. By saying a working white man walking down the street is in much more danger than Harry, which is probably true. Thank you for your superchats to Chaos UK 2026. You made me laugh. Megan should bring out her own brand of ginger nuts. We had some other great superchats too from earlier. Real Thinking Monkey said you should get that BBC reporter that confronted the people smuggler on your team.
Starting point is 01:27:11 She will probably lose her job soon for doing real reporting. Do you know what? I actually looked her up earlier because I thought, you know what? I don't say this often. That was a BBC reporter who was doing the correct job. And Brownlow, 001, said, of all their heroes leave Middle Earth, who is left to protect the Shire. Emily for a store said, I was at Oxford with Aphuel Hirsch. utterly privileged and a fame-hungry Rafe grifter from the start. That's what Rafe was saying. No English is an ethnicity. You can be British, her book.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Becky the Great says, how the hell have we fallen so far that this immigrant estate looks better than my 1,000-year-plus village? We are doomed. You cannot mix oil with water. It's never going to work. Love your show. Thank you so much. And TPVI says, Dan, Rafe is one of my favorite commentators. How timely, well done. Everyone, if you do not join Dan's substack. You are missing out. Thank you. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Loving Rafe, loving the substacks. Super appreciate that. www. www. outspoken. Live. It's the substack atrice, by the way, just to do a terrible plug there.
Starting point is 01:28:20 And now, today's greatest Britain and Union Jackass reveal. And, of course, Rafe nominated Shabir Akhmed, this disgusting head of the Rochdale grooming gangs, Pakistani Muslim rape gangs who has been released from prison and also Tijuana Jamal, the aforementioned people smuggler convicted in France who has now fled to the UK and is working illegally in Leicester. And I went for Chris Schip on this story
Starting point is 01:28:44 for becoming a Prince Harry propagandist. And the results were in, 10% of you going for Chris Ship, 12% of you going for Tijuana Jamal. But Raif, I mean, it was hardly in question, was it? The newly released Shabir Ahmed And today's Union Jackass, the worst Britain in the world today was 78% of the vote. He will be going head to head without other Union Jackass winners from across the week.
Starting point is 01:29:10 I'll put that up in the post tab straight after the main show. A reminder on Monday you went for Shabana MacMood, Tuesday, Alastair Campbell, Wednesday, Jess Phillips. And Rafe, you're nominating the Harry that we love to be our greatest Britain today. Yes, I'm not saying. I only watched football once every four years. And so Harry Kane is my suggestion, without whom, of course, I think we would have long ago left the competition. And yes, let's all get behind.
Starting point is 01:29:42 There are very few occasions now when we can come together as a nation. The World Cup is one of those moments. So let's will our boys on. Great choice. Rave, absolutely fabulous senior fellow at the New Culture Forum. And of course, you can follow Rafe Hidal Mancoo on X, and he has his own YouTube channel of his work as well. Thank you, Ray, for you always love having you on Outspoken, though.
Starting point is 01:30:04 So it's been brilliant to have you today. Thank you so much. Much more Royal News with P. Diner now over on the substate. You can join us at www.outoutspoken. Live. But we will be back with you tomorrow. 5pm UK time, midday Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. I hope to see you then. But most importantly, I promise to keep fighting for you.

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