Danny Jones Podcast - #126 - The 48 Laws of Power | Matthew Cox

Episode Date: February 22, 2022

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What's up, Matt? We're back. We're back with Matthew B. Cox. The con man to the stars, aka Short King. The last video did good. What? The last video did good. Oh, you did it here? Yeah, yeah, the one that you did here, yeah.

How about the podcast that you and I did together on your channel? That was good. That got, you know, from my channel, that got good results. Like, everybody liked it. What kind of comments were on there? Everybody liked Danny. They were like, he was way more interesting than they thought. It was a good interview like, oh, I didn't know that.

Hey, wow, you know. He must have lied the whole fucking time. No, they don't know anything about them. And then there was a whole thing like, bro, you could tell more what was going on with the whole Ben thing. Danny totally like, you know, he totally avoided the issue. I swerved it. Yeah, they were all. It's, you know, it's funny listening to the comments or reading the comments where the guys start getting into arguments and they get pissed off.

That's the first podcast I've ever done as a guest. It was good. So thank you for popping my cherry. I don't like the way that sounded. but yeah yeah it's good you pop my podcast cherry cheers so what's going on matt um what's going on in your world where you just went to uh that conservative coffee shop to show up all those fucking absurd trump paintings yeah did you sell any there no i didn't even show them i didn't okay so there were uh there was a woman that watches my podcast um her name's norrine

and she bought a couple of paintings like a few months ago she'd seen like the trump painting and she bought two of them and then she was coming down i forget where she's from um i don't know ohio or michigan or something and she came down and she said hey i'd like to meet you at and i'm going to conservative grounds coffee would you want to meet me there and i was like sure so she wanted me to give her a signed book so i met her there gave her some signed books and that was it do you know uh we did a whole documentary i know conservative grounds you saw it yeah yeah i saw that that as soon she said it i knew exactly oh really i was like oh no problem i'll meet you there that was a pretty funny documentary we did

he's pulling up the comments of your podcast with me they're pretty positive yeah they are positive I think I think this is a podcast that we were all waiting for especially if you're a fan of concrete and Matt that's right I love all the positivity in here

so Don Pierce says I've respect for this guy now for me you gotta respect it he didn't respect you before that though Respect. No, that's what I got from it. Not before that.

See, you look at the negative. There's no respect. I look at the positive. I look at it. I look at it as a glass half full. You look at it as a glass half empty. Woo! Glass is cool shit.

Want to hit? God damn, those smelling salts are strong. Oh. Mm. Ooh. All right. So is this lady, like, dressed up, like, decked out in Maga gear? No.

She's, no. She's the retiree. really nice. She had a friend with her that lives somewhere around here. She was really nice. And she wanted some of your books? No, it was paintings. No, she bought some of my paintings and then she asked me to bring a book so I brought several of my books and I signed them and that was it. Yeah.

What kind of paintings did she buy? Two Trump paintings. Okay. They're big sellers. She's got to get back to her hotel room just in time for Tucker at 8. You know Jessica Kent when she did my podcast. She asked me to take the Trump painting down. Really? Yeah. Why? You know, she's just not a fan. She said take it

down? She goes, can I get you to take it down? And I didn't know how serious she was and I was like, absolutely, of course, no problem. I mean, you know, I'm not, you know, I'm not married to it. I was like, was it in the background of the video? It's in the background of all my, all, well, I've got, like, usually I have four paintings up. Because I've got some paintings, they're called, they're modified screen print, so I paint them, you know, I paint them. Then I do a screen print over. them and then I paint other stuff on them. You know,

and then I, you know, put a couple coats of varnish on them and the whole thing. So, but Trump was up there and it's a big seller. That's so funny. Like, I'm not,

you know, I'm not, is a big, you know, I'm not, the biggie one is dope. The biggie one is pretty cool. I love the purple and gray one.

Can you see these on the camera? Yeah. Oh yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah. Those are badass. The big, the biggie one's cool.

Yeah. And the bubble gum, I mean, bro, honestly, like, I just don't push them. people see them in the background and they'll randomly send me an email saying,

bro, is that painting for sale? I'm like, yeah, I want the Maryland Monroe and I'll sell them a Maryland Monroe. Or they'll say, hey, do you have one with like green hair? I do have one with green hair. Funny, you should ask. I just say that, you know. So I sell them every once in a while. I don't push them.

I need to start pushing them. Yeah, yeah. What was that? He told, you told me the most epic story about Trump the other day about the guy that was golfing with him. What was that story? I was on a golf podcast. Some pro golfer.

He went, he was golfing. with Trump and they were on it. It was just like him and Trump and they had all the Secret Service or whatever out there little ways behind them or whatever and they were they were golfing and like all the secret service like rushed in. They were like we have an air breach they were calling it an air breach. So like somebody was flying into the airspace where they're at. So they like, I don't know, they got all together to protect him or whatever and they

see this little fucking Cessna putting through the air over the golf course. Probably some old guy. Single engine Cessna. And then like 10 seconds. later they're watching that sessna and they said two fucking bomber fighter jets just zoom in shooting flares at the fucking plane to get him to turn out of there and get the hell out of there and um so they fly by they shoot flares in him get them out of there and they're like okay mr president there's it's safe now you guys can go back to enjoying your golf game and he said he walks over with trump

and trump looks at him and he goes that's power and then tease off and then fucking hits the ball he's dead serious You're safe now. I was always safe. Yeah. You were overreactive. You know Trump loved that though. Oh, yeah.

Super handicapped. Oh, my God. You know he's fucking counting. He's shaving hell of shows. He shinks it into the woods and the Secret Service probably grabs it, tosses it back out to the green. Yeah. Did you see that movie? Did you see that movie?

Yeah, what is that from? Yeah, I've seen that before. Man, that was great. It was a retired. Is it Richie Rich? No, no, it was a retired president who goes to this little town and he, you know, he hit the ball. He would play golf and they were, be secret service agents.

I've seen that. I don't know. That was an epic movie. Matt, what's this feet you're wearing today? This is brand new. I've never seen you dress like this before. I usually wear a white or black shirt.

He came here last time. He got these. You got these, you got like semi-baggy khaki pants on it, and you got some brand new boots. Like, you just bought them today. They don't have a scuff on them.

Not true. I bought him about a month and a half ago. He was wearing the same outfit. How many times you wore him? I've worn them. I wear them everyone. What'd you do today? I wear a few times a week.

I mean, I had to meet these two women. I had to come over here. Today I painted. You just wanted to stomp up in conservative grounds. You know what else? You know what I did today? Get up. Get up.

Stand. Take your headphones off. Step back. We want to see your outfit right now. It looked like you just started working at the Pinellas County Nature Park or something. For the county. Look at this guy. Yeah, you're fine.

Look at this guy. This is not the normal MacCops attire. He's got the belt to match. Look. They're so. Matt, you're glowed up, bro. There's more behind this. What is going on here?

Who took you shopping? Did you go mudding today or something? He's got the tight, breathable shirt tucked in with the belt. Yes, this isn't normal Matt Cox's attire. I mean, I'm trying to figure out what's going to. I had, you know, step up my game a little, but I can't keep wearing the same white shirts all the time. So, you know, periodically you got to throw in, you know, something, a green one. And it was kind of form fitting and looked good.

Makes you look buff. Makes me look good. We lost about 10 pounds. 10 pounds? How did you lose 10 pounds? You weren't fat before, were you? No. I don't think I was.

I mean, I just, I had some issues going on. It wasn't hungry for a couple of months. Lost some weight. It just caught up with me. Weren't hungry for a couple of months. I just, I don't know. It was just emotionally fucked up. It was a bad time for me.

You're depressed? I was a little depressed. There was some depression. She's raising her hand. Is it just as full. Well, there was some depression. So you weren't eating? I wasn't eating very much.

And I dropped, actually, I dropped probably 15 pounds. Went from like 175 down, down to actually like 158. So if you weren't eating, you weren't eating before. But now that you're not depressed, you dropped. No, I dropped weight then. Now I'm up to, I've gained three or four pounds. No, no, I've gained three or four pounds. I'm like 162, 161.

Wow. Actually, it was 160 when I got out of the shower. today, but still. You weigh the same amount as I do. I weigh 165. God, you're like six foot tall or 511. What are you 511? 5.10.

Whatever. If you're over 5'5 foot 6, you're a giant. Hey, well, look, you dropped a few pounds in Jess's back. Well, yeah. You should have did this months ago. Yeah, well. That's a story. We're proud of that.

Unbelievable. You're doing great. Yeah. You're doing really good. By the way, you're doing it. You were commenting on my phone. You want to know where I stole it from? Where?

Vice. Vice. Vice. I did it for you, Matt. Nice. Nice. Sold it from Vice. They gave Matt his credit.

No. They gave me. They also gave me. I love how he said in the last pocket. They paid you. They paid me. He said, I don't even need the money. I just want the credits.

No, I know. Yeah, yeah. They got the credit. And now he got the money. Love it. Love it. Nice. And they got him on a gag order.

So now he can't say nothing about it. I feel. I feel like you do about Ben. You do. That's actually very, very accurate. Good times, good times. I mean, you don't have anything. What do you want to talk about?

What do I want, I want, whatever you want. I don't care. What are you doing? What's going on? I mean, I'm painting. What did you do today? Today I, I printed out cute cards. I mean, or.

I really wanted to eat a couple of gummies and just see where the podcast went. I printed out flash cards for the 48 rules. of power. What are the 48 rules of power? 48 laws of power from Robert Green. Yeah. I have that book.

So I made flash cards. I made flash cards with the 48 laws of power and made flash cards and I cut them out and I glued them on the flash cards. And what you're like studying it? Trying to memorize it?

I don't know. I'm thinking about maybe trying to memorize them. I thought it'd be fun. That's a cool book. But after I read that book, I didn't even read the whole book, but it makes you want, it changes you a little bit

Like how you think is it makes you want to apply those laws into your general life. And then I noticed I started doing fucking. Yeah, kind of mean shit. Ficked up shitty stuff. Not shitty shit, but like you just kind of, you just, you kind of use people a little bit from that. And I don't know. It's weird, man. Why?

How? Explain it to me. I don't know. It's hard to explain. But it's like, can you explain it? Just even like if somebody was coming. I remember like when if somebody was coming over, I'd think. of a reason for them to stop somewhere and get me

something and bring it on the way. Something, you know what I mean? They're vicious. They're vicious. They're total psychopath. That's cult shit. That's cult shit. No, no. It's weird. It's cult shit. It's power. They're like power. Have you heard of nexium? Okay. So, so it's basically

there are rules to apply to help you succeed in life. But it's not like they're nice rules. No. There are some harsh, harsh rules. Like it's like Give me one. Um, well, One of them is, like I think rule number one is Don't never outshine the master. Which means your boss, never make your boss look bad.

Never look better than your boss. Because although you think you're trying to impress him, what you may be actually end up doing is he may become jealous. He may become upset about it. Fearful. Fearful of you. So it's like manipulation strategy. It is. There's tons of manipulation strategies.

That's the word for it. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, there's a bunch of them. But it is a cool book. There's 48 of a bunch of them. 48 manipulative laws. Yeah. What's so funny is what's great about it is when you read it, you start seeing it, not just in yourself.

Like, I definitely can see some of them myself. And then there's some things I think, you know what, I need to start doing that. I'm not harsh enough. Like I tend to forgive people that screw me over. And in this, it's like crush your enemies. Yeah, yeah. Not only physically, but it's. in spirit.

Like, don't leave one inber burning, or it will reignite the person, and the person will come back and destroy you. I mean, they're vicious laws. But I always, you know what I'm saying? There's these little tiny, there are little tiny things that you think, you know, like, I really actually kind of need to do that. Because I tend to get, I tend to, I tend to forget people in little pieces. I think it's good.

Yeah. And there's other thing is you notice things in other people. Like, you realize, that's why he's doing that. He's behaving like that because of this. That's law number 22 or not law number 31. And you start going, that's why. Okay, now I know what he's doing. Now I'm going to do this.

Have you ever heard of, I'll ask you again. Have you heard a nexium? I've heard the term nexium, but I don't know. I don't know what it is. It's a drug, right? No, it's a cult. It was a cult run by a guy named Keith Reneery. Oh, is this where the sweat blog lodge thing?

No, no, no, no, no. It was basically a cult where they stole basically. everything out of Scientology and they stole all kinds of shit from Tony Robbins one of the founders they taught like all the strategies of Tony Robbins

all the shit that Scientology teaches you like get in there better your life push out all the negative influences figure out how to work your mind and be successful and all of their victims were super successful wealthy people a lot of them had money a lot of them were like came from royal

families and this guy was just like He was a crazy, super successful entrepreneur first. Like, he started a Ponzi scheme, made fucking tons of money. It was not a Ponzi scheme. It was an MLM. And he got in trouble for that. He didn't go to prison for it, but he got in trouble and they had to dissolve the company.

But he made millions of dollars. And this guy was just like a hustler. And he was like a very like short, fat, awkward look proportioned human being. He was like a, he looked like, he was like Charles Manson's stature. but like kind of chubby and and he was just fucking just driven

successfully like driven to like make money to like build this big company and he created this company called nexium where it was all about like personal power and it was like one person would recruit another person just like a multi-level marketing scheme and they would bring him in and eventually it turned into sex trafficking

it turned into this. Wow that turned left quick. Eventually it was like women getting branded. He mind fucked all these people to believing that they were a part of this great thing. And, uh... Well, so did that Scientology.

Yeah. And he was branding each other. All the women were branding themselves with him and his initials. Um, and he was like raping 12 year olds and shit. Like convincing him that was their pathway to enlightenment was to have sex with him. Like he would convince the higher people, the higher ups in his,

in his company, the cult that convince, like tell them Like to tell the women like, hey, if you really want to get up in this, you know, and really like elevate yourself in nexium, you have to seduce Keith. This was like his plan that he would tell the higher ups to convince the lower level women. And then they would now be trying to sleep with him to like raise their status and their spiritual enlightenment. And it was just this crazy. I just watched the whole documentary on HBO's fucking bananas. What's the name of it?

It's called The vow. The vow. The vow. Yeah. and he he fucking paid the he paid the Dalai Lama like a million dollars

to have a meeting with him and so they can videotape it and make himself look legit and the Dalai Lama met with him and the Dalai Lama was like questioning him's like well he's like I don't know he's like a lot of people say a lot of negative things about you

you've been a part of some weird shit and he convinced the Dalai Lama don't they say the same thing about you Mr. Lama and like Mr. Lama they say the same thing about everybody like he

this guy played himself off like he he projected himself as just like this super high IQ genius of a man who was a judo master at age 12 he was like could play the piano like Beethoven he knew he was a mathematician he was a scientist and in reality he was none of this stuff he just projected himself like this and all these people were in awe of him and he just fucking took control of all these people over all these years and now he's in prison for life. Would you consider him a con man?

Oh, bro. He was the definition of a con man. He was the fucking most, he was the purest form of a con man you've ever seen. He ripped off everything, everything from Scientology, from Tony Robbins,

and made it look like he fucking created all of this himself. And, uh, anyways, it was, it reminds me of that book that you were just talking about. A lot of the same kind of shit.

When you introduce people, too, those kinds of ideas for the first time. Well, they'll say stuff like in that book, it's like Law 31 or whatever. And it's like, you know, create large scale like acts of, you know, to make yourself seem godlike, you know. Right. Emphasize enthusiasm over, you know, facts or whatever, you know, over reason, you know.

It's got all these different techniques on how to make yourself seem huge amazing when in fact it's it's just bullshit but it's really it's a lot of what you're saying right there seems very much right out taken right out of that those laws and it's the same thing of Scientology as well no I don't know one thing they do one thing they do to the women that go that join that company it's like they have this relationship to where the person above you is your master and you're considered their slave so there's this thing called collateral So if you want to elevate in the company and make more money, you have to give them collateral,

meaning you have to give them your darkest secrets or send them like nude photos of yourself so that if you ever come out or want to leave, they have this against you. Because they're like, oh, we're giving you access to all this high level information. We need collateral from you. The same thing is like, you know how Scientology does the auditing.

They do like those auditing sessions where you confess, confess like your deepest, darkest secrets and thoughts and ideas and everything and they make notes of everything, like everything from your past or whatever. Okay. It's the same kind of thing. It's called auditing and Scientology. This thing, it was just

called, in Nexium, it was just called collateral where you just give them dirt on yourself, basically. Seems like a bad idea. But these people were brainwashed enough to do it. I like the branding part. I'm good with the branding. Yeah. Just brand all your women? I'm thinking about, yeah. I'm definitely,

I'm thinking about doing it. Yeah, I'm thinking, I'm thinking about having Jess get a tattoo on an arm that says property of Matthew Bevin Cox. Yeah. I think that's reasonable. I was this close to having to talking into it the other day. Brands are cool. Brands are cool than tattoos. We know a couple of tattoos artists.

Yeah. Brands hurt. Do that? But at least it's all at once. Yeah, yeah. It's over quick. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, you're going to. It's not an hour session. No. We're talking five seconds. Four to eight hours of the course of two weeks. Fuck that. Let's just. let's get this over with.

Where did this guy do all that stuff at? It was in New York. Like, I think it was Albany, New York. That's where that shit was based out of. Is that there, Albany? Albany. Albany. Whatever. Albany.

You think Frank Almadeo likes the 48 laws of power? He, listen. You think he follows all 48 rules. Absolutely. Hey, pull up a picture of Keith Ranieri. I want to show him a picture of him. Or like an interview with him or something. He could be Amadeo.

Yeah. He was very. I mean, you know what's weird, though? It's like all these people like this guy, Charles Manson, who else? Who's another big? Who's the leader of Scientology? Miscavage.

They're all short guys. They're compensating for something? They're all short guys. Compensating for the shortness? I don't know, but is that a thing? Like, not only are they short, but they're like oddly proportioned. Like, you know what I mean? I don't know.

Is there a connection? Maybe that could drive you to one of their connection there? Shed that image of yourself. I don't know. I don't know. We're having a conversation, Matt. I don't know. He's implying you're one of those people.

Maybe you're one of those people. Keith Rennery, just type in like N-E-X-I-V-M. You'll find him. So why did he go to prison for life? They got him for like basically like cooking the books of his. company and sex trafficking and I forget his actual charges but they

nailed him down pretty good. I love that you got you have the same the same image of you know God and Adam that you used to have the painting of yeah I like that you the consistency yeah it's nice as soon as you make sure you should have framed to the TV

what's like that gold frame I know I wish like the picture you could do that and it would look like a picture so that'd be cool The frame TVs are expensive. Maybe you could frame this one. Frank this one. Yeah, yeah. I could just like custom make a wood frame.

Fucking Michaels will do it for you. Damn, Austin. What's going on, bro? He's going to have... Why would he do that? He'd buy you a six-pack and grab you some two-by-four. Right, right. You'll not borrow the drill from the next door.

We build this table. This guy looks like... He doesn't look oddly proportioned. You've got to see a full body shot of them. Like, this is just from the chest up. Okay, look at that picture of him. I don't know if you can blow that up. But look at him.

Looks like Spielberg. You know, does he look like a fucking dork? I just think it looks like somebody from the 1980s or 90s. Yeah. A bad suit and... Baggy ass suit. And he has like the Mo haircut. Maybe it was very crisp.

Have you ever heard of Heaven's Gate? Of course. That's another crazy cold. That guy was nuts. Never heard of it. Oh, my. What? You've never heard of Heaven's Gate?

Was it 100? Oh my God, you got to watch that documentary, bro. 60, was it 60? 35 people. 35 people. That's my favorite. Wearing Air Jordans. Air Jordan.

And the full jumpsuit. They did like a Nike jumpsuit and like Nike tennis shoes or Air Jordan. Yes. And they all took poison and killed themselves. Yeah. Because there was a comet coming by by the Earth. What was a comet name? Hail Bob.

Yeah. But coming close to the, close to Earth. It was like, it was like 100 million miles from Earth. Yeah. Which is close. Which is close and, you know, I guess. Pull up the trailer. They're the ones that's Chulet.

No, no, that's Jones Town. That was almost a thousand people. That was a lot, right. The Heaven's Gate, they thought in the tail of the comet was a spaceship. Following it. No, wrong one. And their souls would go up into the spaceship. No, no, no, no, no.

What if they did? Yeah, that's Heaven's Gate. Heaven's Gate cult documentary trailer. What if their spirits did? Maybe. Maybe. They could have. I mean, it's as silly as Christianity.

Why not? Who should say? But still, the Nikes. No, I didn't understand. What kind of Nikes were they? It's a little bit sillier. Like, were they Jordan Ones or what? The cult of cults.

This documentary. This is the leader of it. This guy? Yeah. Did he... Watch this. Watch this. Did he cut his...

Didn't he cut himself? Oh, yeah. They tried to castrate each other. because they may or may not you think they just decided to fucking Nike's

Nike's they weren't Jordans what kind of Nike's are they Air Maxes I think they convinced them all that they were aliens destined for a higher to transcend their bodies

beam me up Scotty definitely an alien sold Exactly as I say And you will not know that It's the cult of cult of cult It's Oh man

That was a good documentary bro You would like it bro You should get high and watch it You think it worked? You want to get some Nike. Convinced them that if they wanted to be immortal and transcend into a higher level of existence, they had to commit. They had all killed themselves at the same time.

Do they all get castrated? No. After the first guy got castrated, it went so wrong. It went really left. It went left hard. And the castration is so wrong. Well, they had one of the, one of the people in the cult was like a ex-nurs or whatever. She's like, I kind of know.

I know what I'm doing or whatever. So she helped. I know what I'm doing. Kind of? She assisted. I got a puck a knife. Yeah. So she,

I guess she helped with the first castration. And it went so bad they had to rush him to the ER because he was like bleeding out. And after that, they didn't do any more castration. We don't really have to do this, you know. I mean, we thought we did,

but we actually don't have to see this anymore. Felt like a good idea. Yeah. Well, because aliens, the alien, humanoid alien beings that were all accustomed to seeing or accustomed to being familiar with from like sci-fi films or they're genderless.

They have no balls or dick or vagina. China. So that's what they wanted to do. They all wanted to become genderless. Now you don't have to cut your nuts off to do that. Yeah, now you don't have to cut your nuts off to do it. True. They were ahead of the time. They were just ahead of the curve. All right. What else?

That shit was wild, bro. What the hell? That shit was... Jonestown. Jonestown was... That was a wild. I did watch the documentary. I have not watched that one yet. Oh, man. That one's dark. That's the darkest one of all. Listen, that he was...

He, he, they, they made it right though. Some of them ran off, didn't drink it. Ran off into the woods. Wasn't there like a senator who flew down there? Yeah, they killed them. And they shot him. Yeah, they shot him. I mean, him and his, and his whole kind of staff that went down, like they went to

Jonestown because they had called into what, Guiana? And they'd moved there and they'd created Jonestown and they were building this utopia. And, you know, they're all not doing well and they stopped talking to their family. And so finally the senator who's been. petition by tons of family members flies down there to set just to kind of check inspect the whole thing and everybody's saying everything's great everything's good and they're like oh no we're happy word they're shaking oh no look hi how are you shaking his hand and there and people are putting notes in his fucking hand saying

help me get me out of here i'm being held against my will i remember that part right so then they um whatever uh i forget what's the name is jones town was what's jones his last name's jones Jim Jones, yeah. Jim Jones finds out. Well, he tells him, just before I think the senator tells Jones, Jim Jones, listen, I got issue. There's some issues. Like some of these people are being told. We've got a problem. Yeah, we've got a problem.

We're going back to Washington. We'll let you know what we come up with. And they go back to the airport. And Jim Jones sends his private security to stop them. And they have a shootout. kill him. And then they come back and they now know that the government's got, like the U.S. government's going to come in. They're going to come in and grab him. So he convinces everybody that it's the end of days, you know, and that they're coming. And he convinces everybody to drink the

, drink the Kool-Aid. It wasn't even Kool-Aid. It was an off. Well, it was, but it's an off. It wasn't a knock-off. It wasn't a brand. It was a knock-off brand of Kool-Aid. And it was lace with cyanide. But isn't that how that whole analogy drank the cool thing started? Yeah, that's where it came from. I'm not drinking the Kool-A. Right.

Listen, bro, I ain't drinking the Kool-A. That's crazy, bro. That was the biggest. I used to say that in Ardap all of them. That I ain't drinking the Kool-Aid. What's Ar-Dap? It was the drug program in prison. It's like a cult practically.

You get in there and the guys start, they start saying stuff and I'd always say, listen, bro. Like, I'm not drinking the Kohl-Tor. They're interesting. Super interesting. They're so interesting because they're just like religions. except for a couple key things, like the whole disconnection thing.

Like you can't, like, associate with your family. Or, like, you have to disconnect with them if they, they call you a suppressive person. Like, that's how it is in Scientology and with a nexium. Like, if somebody talks to, they would remove, like, most cults try and get you away from all your family to be in one place. Like, in that way, we're surrounded by everybody else who has the same thought process

before you know what, you just become brainwashed. Right. crazy and it's all like a lot of them are smart people which is crazy too have you did you ever read I think it's Chuck he wrote Fight Club I want to I'm gonna butcher his last name

Chuck Paul in the Chuck Paul in the Check I want and I'm probably butchered his last name he wrote a story called Survivor and it's about a guy who was in a cult who gets out and it's it's great it's a great book great book and it talks about all

All the cults, as you're going through the book, he talks about different. They keep bringing up different cults. I'm looking this up right now. It's a hilarious. Listen, he's got, Chuck Palmecichick has better books than Fight Club. And of course, you know. How do you spin it? How is that?

P-A-L-A. Paulnecheck. P-A-H-N-I-U-K. Yeah, come on. How are you going to say that? How do you say that? Palinuk. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. Story of Survivor being developed for TV. Which one is it? Dark comedy from Palin-Chuk focuses on Tender Branson, a member of the Greekish cult who has survived his religion's latest mass suicide, only to hijack a plane by himself with plans to crash it into an Australian outback, into the Australian outback after he tells his life story.

Whoa. Well. It's a good. It's a good book. I mean, it is a girl. I don't know what the... I'm going to check that out. That guy is fucking cool.

I love that guy. Chuck Palinuk. Yeah, Fight Club, honestly, that's a good book. Yeah. But he's got other books. You've read the book? What, Fight Club? Yeah.

I read almost all, every book he's written. I was in prison. Yeah. How many books did you read while you're in prison? I mean, I read for, I read for like probably the first three years straight. Wow. So I don't know. It was probably a book, maybe two books, probably two books a week for three years.

God, damn. It was ridiculous. A week? I guess. We have nothing to do. What do you think the difference? is between reading a book and listening to a book? Have you done both?

Yeah, but I mean, I'm a horrible reader. Horrible reader. I'm a better reader now than... Well, you told me that you just highlighted the speech thing on the phone to listen to articles. All the time. So, but do you think there's... I mean, obviously it's quicker to listen to a book, but do you think you grasp it... Well, I think everybody's different.

Do you think you digest it the same way? No, I think for me, listening to it, I retain more listening to it, than I do reading. Really? I have such a hard time. I think the opposite. But you're probably a great reader. No, but I'm not.

I'm a slow reader. It takes me four times a time to read a book than it would for me to listen to a book. Sometimes I go back and I reread it. I have to go back. I can barely read. Like I read one paragraph. I'm like, did I get that right? I got to read it again.

Yeah. I just listen. Yeah. But I had no choice in prison. You just got to read it. Right. There's no way to get audio books in prison? You can get like a little iPod or something.

for a pretty penny you can't have you have you some guy's suitcases it for you maybe but i mean fuck it no no no he's no no he's no no you know it's so funny is like in the county jail and stuff you know in the count like now in the county jails and most prisons they're giving you iPads and all kinds of stuff like they're turning it's a it's a money-making right venture now right more so than it ever spent how do you think how do you think how many works you think you read well you in prison total I don't know. I think two a week is probably...

So total, though. It was definitely two a week. It was definitely two a week in county. When I was in the county lockup, I was for a year. So that's over 100. Over 100 right then. Really? And then I would say, let's say, 70, when I got to prison for about two years, 70s.

I don't know. So about 250 books within three years. Wow. How many books do you think you've read in your lifetime? Single digits. But I was the same way. I was the same way. Before prison, I was the same way.

I probably read 10 Dr. Seuss books front and the back. Same way. If those count. But like big books, I remember one time in middle school, they were like, they took the whole class to the library. You got to pick a book. You got to read it. You got to write the fucking whatever. You got to write something on it.

I'm like, sweating, walking up and down the aisles. Where's the smallest book? And I had the best idea. I'm like, you just buy a book that's about a movie and you watch the movie. Take a couple of notes, write a paper. I got fucking E.T. Out of the library. Went and watched the movie.

I already seen it a hundred times. I'm a kid. Easy. Nailed it. Didn't read a page. That's genius. I'm like, what are you doing? Taking notes watching E.T.

Like, I got a report. You know, Miss Willis, I got to turn this in tomorrow. Miss Willis. Crazy. You know, you know how they'll take the book, and then they obviously have to adapt it for, like, for a movie. So you got a 300-page book. You can't. Unless you want a 12-hour miniseries, you can't.

So they chop it up, right? But there were two books that I've read that when I saw the movies, they were almost identical. One was Fight Club and one was Catch Me if you can. Almost identical. Because they're so small. Fight Club was like 190. pages. Did you hear what China just did to Fight Club?

Uh-uh. China has changed the ending. Why? You know how China manipulates all of their media and all of their internet and everything? Right. They just changed the ending for Fight Club. So if you watch Fight Club in China, it's no longer like the city falling. Now it's the FBI comes in an arrest Tyler Durdon.

Wow. Really? I'd like to watch that. Yep. Why? I wonder why. It's because they don't like the idea. They don't like the idea of...

Take it down. They don't like anti- It's frowned upon there. Yeah, you can say that. They've been embraced it like we have here. They're not trying to take the capital. No, they're not taking the capital there. There'll be no Russian Congress in China.

Could you imagine video footage in China? See, you can find the article about that. Oh, my God. That'd be a hell of a movie. Bro, I mean, they already made a bunch of documentaries about January 6th. True. The Q and on one. What was the Q&N on one?

into the storm that's a fucking crazy documentary talk about a cult bro politics is like a cult close it's kind of like a cult that's like the fine line between cults and religion

and stuff like that right it's the same thing like cults religions cults just send a tip over the line and do some weird shit politics this podcast sucks does it

we can stop it right now and I'm a part of it if you're not having fun sell something if you're not having fun we can turn it off I'm having fun. Well, I mean, how much stuff do you guys have in front of you? We have marijuana.

We have smelling salts. We have scotch. We have Coke. Cola. Cain? No cocaine. If Matt's probation officer's listen to it's no cocaine, just co-cocola. Coca-Cola.

China changes the Fight Club film ending. so the authorities win The ending of the cult 1990 cult film Fight Club has been removed for viewers in China and replaced by a screen with a message saying The authorities won

Scroll down a little bit They're not even trying to be subtle about it No production value at all Just fucking text on a screen Scroll down Austin All right hold on Yeah I want to see Paul What Chuck said about it

He says Oh yeah, what a Chuck say? He says, this is super wonderful. Everyone gets a happy ending in China. You think there's a pun in that? That's great. He said this is super wonderful. Everyone gets a happy ending in China.

That is fucking, he is fucking so smart. He is so funny. Bro, I'm subscribed to his substack. I don't know what that is. You know what substack is? No. Substack is like an email subscription thing. So like reporters or journalists or writers like him who write all the time,

like you subscribe to their email list. Substack is like a, it's like, it's like think of like YouTube, but for also for like writing shit. And people subscribe to it and they pay you like a dollar a month or $5 a month or $10 a month or whatever. It's like it's like Patreon kind of, but for like people like him. So they don't have to be tied to like, you know, they don't have to like depend on big mainstream corporate media to pay their ability. they can just have the people pay for their shit just like you get a subscription to the articles right so you pay like five bucks a month and you can get all of his content

that he writes every single day that he's interested in I'm trying to think what another one I wrote read was a choke they actually made a movie about choke which was another great great book of his monster monster was good there was one called monster wasn't as good

as choke and Survivor was great. I've watched both of his, he did a couple podcasts with Joe Rogan, I just watched those. Okay. And that's how I became a fan of his. Well, obviously, after watching Fight Club.

I think he got like $10,000 for Fight Club. Like he sold the, really? He was, and he said at the time, I was thrilled to get it. Because he said, like I said, I had written the book. He said, I mean,

nobody was interested in publishing it. He found a publisher. He said, look, we'll give it 10 grand for it. That's all you get. No royalties. Here's 10 grand. He's like, okay. I'm sure he sold a lot of books from that, though.

Well, yeah, but he didn't get any royalties. On his book? On the other books. Right, right. No, no. He didn't even write the book. No, like, he's, I'm pretty sure he sold it for 10 grand. Oh, he sold the book.

And never got any royalties. I thought he sold, like, the movie deal part of it. No, no. Oh, I got you. And I could be wrong. But, you know, keep in mind that that's what turned him into a massive. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure it paid off.

Right. I'm pretty sure I got that right. But yeah, because he said, I remember him saying, look, it wasn't, at the time it was a ton of money for me. And I was thrilled to be, it was now a published author or whatever he was. You know, he was like, I was thrilled. You know how he got the idea? He said he had gone camping and the guys at the other campsite were playing loud music. I think he said, I got up, you know, and it was just disturbing everybody.

He got up and went over and said, hey, can you guys turn your radio now? And the guy mouthed off to him and they mouthed off back and forth. He said, and we ended up getting into a fist fight. And I got beat up. He said, and that's when he sat down and he thought, you know what? I'm, like, I've never, like, been in a fight. Like, and I just got beat up. Like, I don't even know how to defend myself.

And he said, and that's, that was, that sparked the whole concept for fight club. Wow. That's awesome. Yeah, it's really cool. That's crazy. Do you know that, um, I'm going to say, I lost my train of thought. I hope you had the camera on Matt when, for that pause. That was like, hey, you know what?

I need a, I need a hoodie. I got hoodies. I got small. Yeah. Small. What color do you want? I want a large. Because you gave me a medium. Last time you gave me a medium, it was tight.

Was it? Yeah, it was too small. Oh, but you know what? I've lost some weight. It might worry. Probably working out. Good now. Looks like you got some muscle going.

Been working out? This is all for show. This is, I'm weak as a small child. Are you okay? I'm trying to remember what I was going to say about Chuck. I had something funny to say, but I forgot what it was. Lost it. He's a good shake.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's pretty buff. I'm trying to get the other books that I read of his. God, there was another one. Oh, I remember what I want to say to you. Have you ever read Stephen King's book on writing? No. Pretty interesting.

You know, it's funny. The only Stephen King books I like are the serious ones. Like, all of his books about that are like, about that are scary or about, you know, aliens. Coojo? Yeah. But Cujo is good. Okay.

Okay. Sorry. I'm saying typically like the ones where they go off on, you know, whatever, the strain or, you know, like those types. Like, I don't like any of those, but when he, you know, like misery or the green mile or, you know, those are Shawshank. I think he wrote Shawshank. Like, those are amazing. And then, but everybody's known for all the horror books and stuff. but I don't really like any of that.

I don't really like those. The more fiction it gets, though. I don't like them. But the serious ones, he's, you know, those are like amazing. He didn't know. He did Shawshank. I'm pretty sure he did Shawshank. I don't think he did.

I didn't know. I didn't know. Who wrote Shawshank, redemption? No, but he did misery, right? I don't know. You guys make me second. You're so sure about it. No, I'm not sure.

I'm just saying I didn't know. I was surprised. All I know Stephen King for is like it. Who? King Shawshank. Bro, he was broke, like, late into his 40s. Like, he had no money. And he hit big on, what was the girl named?

Yeah, Stephen King Shawshank Redemption. Okay. That's cool. Yeah. I didn't know that. What was his first one? His first big one, his first big sale where he made it, he got rich off was Annie. Annie?

The little red hair girl? Yeah, the girl who goes to prom and then, and then. The Hard Knock Life, Annie? Is that what it's called? No, no, you're thinking... No, I know you're talking about where she can set fires and, right? Well, the girl that's made fun of in high school, and they go to prom, and then... And then she sets the whole building on fire.

Right, exactly. Didn't they just remake that? Well, is the Shawshank by, uh... Is that him? Or no? Oh, it is? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, okay.

No, Carrie. Carrie. Carrie. Yes, Carrie. Andy. You said that, right? And I Andy Dufram

Oh here Oh you did Sorry we can't hear With the headphones on Yeah Carrie That was his first That was his first hit

Yeah Misery Misery The novel by Stephen King Yeah he wrote that too That's it I saw the movie That's a good movie

Yeah Bro he talks about What's that lady's name? Oh god What is her name She was so scary Oh She was scary

Oh and you know In the book Like they They hobble him And like she just Like in the book Like she cuts his feet off You know how they

like when slaves would run away, they would cut the first part of your foot off. Who plays the guy in that movie? Is that fucking Vince Bond? No. It's some guy that looks like him, isn't it? No, no, I forget. What is his name?

How old is the movie? It's somebody weird you wouldn't expect to play that role. I can, if I can. What's that lady's name? Roseanne. No, no. It's Kathy Bates. Kathy Bates.

And James, James. Franco. Can't. James Cane. James Cain. I have no idea that was. C-A-A-N? Am I saying that wrong?

C-A-A-N? I've never seen that. I've never seen that. Oh, my God, bro. You love it. He's a writer. He writes novels like romance novels, and she loves the characters in novels, and then he, like, has his manuscript or something with him,

and she knows where he goes to type his manuscripts, and when she's coming back, she actually, I think whatever she does, she causes an accident or something, she finds him, brings him to her house. I think she calls him the accident. And she reads the manuscript and she's disappointed because in the manuscript. Oh, yeah, she makes him rewrite it or something. Yeah, she didn't like the way it ended it. Yeah.

She wants him to rewrite it. She traps him in the house. Right. Fucking makes him rewrite it. He talks about this whole thing in the book, his own autobiography book on writing. I remember hearing about that. Yeah, that was fucking crazy. And then he tries to get away.

Yeah. And she cuts his feet off, right? In the book, she hobbles him. She cuts the first portion of his foot off, right? So he can still, he's got its heels. His toes. Yeah, he cuts basically a little bit behind the toes. The bunions.

Right. So you can't run. You can't really, you kind of like, you know, you're like on stilts. Yeah. Cut half your foot off. But in the movie, she just breaks his legs. Oh, yeah. She kind of breaks his feet.

And she's like a hardcore fan of his. Oh, yeah. Knuckles. I mean, you're, I don't watch that movie. Ancles. Oh, yeah, it's a good movie. Classic. Bro, his book.

You should listen to it. You should listen to his audio book. It's fucking good, bro. He talks about his whole process on writing and how he writes and how he has to set up his own little space where he does it, how he's learned. Because, you know, he was at one point when he was writing shit like Kujo, his best work, he was locked in a room, fucking doing rails of cocaine,

drinking tons of fucking whiskey, eating pills. He was fucked up. Where does you write? Maybe I should try it, huh? I mean, that's all you're missing. Bro. He was... He was doing

mountains of Coke and writing these stories. Like, how crazy is that? Give me a pen. That's a problem. You just don't have a pen and a piece of paper. Like, it's fucking... That's wild.

Could you... I can't imagine trying to be productive doing that kind of shit. I mean, I don't know. Some people are crazy. Like, who's that guy that did fear and loathing? He was crazy like that, too. Hunter Thompson.

He used to take all sorts of fucking... Oh, yeah. He was... Narly drugs. shit, yeah. A lot of those guys do that. What was the stuff called that we were talking about? Drenachrome. Have you ever heard of adrenaline chrome?

No. It's when you, they take it out of babies. They like take the blood out of babies. Not necessarily babies, but typically younger. Humans. It's adrenachrome. So it's like adrenaline, like pure adrenaline from young children. And it supposedly makes you. Who thinks this crap up? Like, hey, you know, bro, go to be a human group.

They really jack us. They say it's awesome. It's real. It's real shit. No, but I'm saying, that's what I'm saying. Who thinks, hey, you know, it would really be good? Awesome. Let's take some adrenaline from small children and inject it.

That's what I want. Adrino chrome. Horrible. Yeah, he wrote Green Mile. I didn't know he wrote all that stuff. I didn't know that. Bro, he's, all of his best shit was done when he was on Coke. He says it in his book.

Same. Fucking wild, bro. Oh, my God. wild shit. Now he's like, what is he worth? He's worth like a fucking billion dollars. That's outrageous. Then he got hit by it.

Didn't he get hit by it? Oh yeah, he got hit by car, right? First of all, he was like jogging along like a road. Like, what are you doing? You're jogging, you're on the country fucking road. You're jogging along or something like that. And some guy like veers off the road and runs you over. Like, I get it.

You live in the country. But he was in another country, wasn't he? No, no. He was like in, I think he was just in the country in like the countryside or something. Oh, really? I think. And it was like a minivan ran them over like, oh my God. Wow.

I mean, it's just embarrassing. Nobody does it. Probably turned that into a story. Nobody deserves to die by a minivan. I feel like some people just do their best work. Like there's a certain point in their life where they just like create the best shit. Like people like him and like created people. And then it's over.

And then after that there's like a, it's like an uphill, uphill, uphill. They hit a peak and then there's like it's downhill from then on. Like there's a certain. That's where I'm at. The money. That's where I'm at. The money comes in. Where are you at?

You're on the down? On the down hill. Yeah, but sometimes you can find another hill after that. I just need a little one. Yeah. Well, let's sell some paintings. I mean. Awesome, you having trouble?

Adrenochrome. Adreno-A-D-R-E-N-O-Crome. Jesus. Adrenochrome. Oh, my God. I didn't bring any Marilyn Monroe's. Mm-mm. I have some Maryland Monroes.

Those are big sellers. You didn't bring my Gucci Man either. The big either. No, I'll always. I didn't know you were serious about the Gucci Man. I wasn't positive. Of course I was serious. I mean, we don't know how big do we want Gucci.

Am I ever not serious? Well, all right, adrenochrome. Read this for us, Matt Cox. I can't read that. I can't even say it. Adrenochrome is a chemical compound produced by the oxidation of adrenaline. Adrenaline. It was the subject of limited research in the 1950s

through the 1970s as a potential cause of schizophrenia. cause of schizophrenia. While it has no current medical application, the related derivative compound what does I say? Carbazachrome is a

hemostatic medication. Where does it say small children? Despite the compound's name, it is unrelated to the element chromium. Right, but well, how do you get that? I don't know. I mean, I immediately pictured like a couple doctors like, incoving some

kids to a bed and they're squirming and there's well i think it gets a it gets a play into cults and shit where they say you know people do shit like that you know they say hillary clinton needs babies and drinks their blood that's what they're getting from yeah but oh my god isn't this is what happened what about this the Hillary clinton the sex ring that was being run out of the oh you mean that you mean Jeffrey Epstein the basement oh comet pizza pizza gate Yeah, Pizza Gate.

Yeah. That's just... Yeah. A lot of that is based around this. Yeah. It's like they're harvesting kids for this adrenaline chrome. And then they get freaky like Epstein. But it's a whole damn island.

Bro, I'm watching this documentary right now called... It's the craziest fucking documentary I've ever seen. It's called 9-11, the New Pearl Harbor. And they go, it is the deepest dive on all. of the little things about 9-11. And basically, bro, it will fuck. It, they, they, it's very objective where it's not just like a one-sided thing where they say conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy. They take all of the conspiracy theory debunkers of 9-11.

Like all of the people around the world who say 9-11, it is what the government said it was, right? It was Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. I'm not sure Saddam was part of that. They did. That's what they said. They said the war on terror. It was that they implicated Saddam Hussein. They tried to.

There never was any proof. But there's no proof. But that's how they justified. Yes. The Iraq war. Yeah. Just like the weapons of massed stress. Right.

Just like Pearl Harbor. justified going into Germany, right? Or Japan. Japan. Yeah. Anyways, they make all of the connections, all the, they, they, they, they, they, they're probably, because they were allies, Hitler then declared war against the United States, and he had already been at war.

It's all connected, yeah. There's, yeah, I'll go with that. That's cool. So they, bro, they go all the way down to like, they go as granular as to where they're in the Pentagon with Dick Cheney and they have old Dick Cheney Dick Cheney in the Pentagon with his chief of staff the all of like the lower down the lower wrong people

who are like in there and they're tracking the airplane that's head the last plane that's headed towards the Pentagon right they're tracking it from like 80 miles away and it's like 80 miles out the kid comes in the room sir, 80 miles out, does the order still stand? Goes away.

Sir, 70 miles out, does the order still stand? Some footage? No, this is all documented on the report. Okay. And then he comes back in, like, every 10 miles, he comes in and tells Dick Cheney. He's like, sir, 10 miles out, does the order still stand? What is the order?

Not to shoot it down? They don't know. But they're assuming that it's not to shoot it down, because at 10 miles... Because they're not shooting it down. At 10 miles out, at 10 miles out, Dick, Dick Cheney snaps his net back and says, of course the odor still stands.

And the kid is obviously distraught. There's multiple people in there that testify to this. The kid goes back away. Five minutes later, the plane fucking crashes into the Pentagon. Okay, another big thing about the whole Pentagon thing is the Pentagon is a giant, like what? It's like four stories. It's not a very tall building, right? No, but it's like the largest building.

But it's 30 acres. Yeah. It takes up 30 acres. But it's only like four stories tall. Right. So think about it. If you're a hijacker and you're going to take a plane and crash into the Pentagon, are you going to take it?

The thing took out like four power lines while it was going 500 miles an hour, fucking 50 feet above the ground, just to crash into the side of the Pentagon. If you're to hijacker, a fucking low-level pilot who's not an expert pilot, you're just going to crash into the roof of that thing. Because you're going to do way more damage. You're going to cause way more destruction. Rather, you have to be like, they make the case that you have to be, like, they show flight simulators with trained pilots and they show exactly how hard it would be to fly that plane 50 feet above the ground for the distance he did to crash into the side of the building.

Any fucking hijacker would just crash into the top because you'd do more damage and it'd be way easier. So that's just one of the examples they make, which is fucking when they lay out all of the reasons why, it's, it's, it's, it's, doesn't really match up to like the narrative. It fucking really blows your mind. Now you should watch this. I'd like to see what you think about. They still hit the building. I mean, they hit it.

Yeah, he hit the building, but it was. There was nobody in that part of the building as well. No. There were, there were something like 100 people died. They said that area was under construction. No, that part of the building was the only part of the building that had just finished construction. They just redid that whole part of the building to make it like they, they, they, they, they, isolated every single wall with Kevlar.

They made it fireproof. Oh, yeah. They had just... They put in the windows. Yeah. So, listen, I was locked up with a guy named Chris Marrero. Chris Marrero got, I think, 15 years for filing income tax return or filing something to get... To get money back for people, because Chris is one of these.

He's a sovereign citizen, and he believes that the... government uses our social security number to borrow money against us and the money doesn't exist and that you get a uh listen it's it's total like insanity and he was filing paperwork for people to get them the money back that the government gets for whatever it's it's insanity and he ends up obviously because then he goes to trial and he ends up getting like 15 years um he believes in every single conspiracy out there i've never met anybody that can tie conspiracy theories together. And he was so entertaining for me. Like we would just, we would sit there, Boziac and I would sit there and go, you know, fuck, what are you doing? I don't know, man. What are you doing? I don't know.

I go, let's go find Chris. You go, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we'd go and we'd talk to Chris and and Chris would go on and on and on. I bet you he's got conspiracy theories with 9-11 that would blow your mind. I'm desperate to get him on my podcast because Chris will go for 10 hours straight. and the great thing about him is you can kind of mock him and it doesn't bother him. Like he's not going to flip out on you and start swinging.

He's not going to throw, you're not going to body slam you. You know what I'm saying. So like, but Chris will just go on and on and they're amazing because he's like, oh, I can prove it.

I got the book so and so and he gets so jacked up and excited about it. He's hilarious. Right, but here's the thing. What do you think makes it a conspiracy theory? What defines it? Like, do you think, like, the whole, everything I explained to you, the whole 9-11 documentary, you, like, can we call Chris? What makes it a-oh-you- I'm asking you, what makes it a conspiracy theory?

That is not an official report. What's your definition of a conspiracy theory? That basically you're saying that it's not what it appears to be. Like, you know, you're saying it has an ulterior storyline or it's something, it's something more sinister than what they're telling us. That's the conspiracy theory is. They're saying this is what it is. It's pretty cut and dry. It's pretty simple.

saying, no, no, what really happened is something super sinister that they're hiding. Like JFK. What did you get about JFK? I mean, I think he got shot. Do you think Oswald act alone, acted alone? It depends on what documentary I watch. You know, unfortunately, it does. I think now is accepted. I think now is accepted narrative that he didn't act alone, right?

I don't think that's any longer disputed. We talked about this last time, like, UFOs. Like, the government basically came out and said, yeah, there's UFOs. We don't know there. nobody flipped out. Like nobody jumped off a building. Like nobody, nobody, people aren't going nuts.

They're not stormy. Because they didn't say anything else but that. But I mean, they slowly kind of let out over the course of what, 50 years. And now people are so had basically come to the conclusion that they believed they were USOs. So when they finally said,

hey, they are. And we actually have some footage. Well, look at this way. I knew it. And they go to work the next day and pay their mortgage. Look at it this way, though. Like, we got to call. It is so entertaining.

If you got Chris on this, fuck on this podcast, bro, you can't, I want him on my, I've never meant to really mention him before because I want him on mine so bad, but he's on an ankle monitor. I know,

no, he blows Bustamanti out of, Bustamanti's like a, he just, he's a, he follows, he's a CIA shill, according to the comments.

Oh yeah, I love that. But, but he's, he's going with the, he's going with the standard line. Yeah. Bustamanti's going to go with it.

He's not going to go. He's not going to go. This guy will go nuts. and he believes in giants. He's tied in Christianity with aliens. He's got, I mean, it's... The Andanaki. Oh my God!

We got it. Chris, we have to get... Oh, Chris ain't lying, bro. Chris spit facts. I would love it if he did it. I would love it if you watch this 9-11 documentary that I watch. I want to watch it. I want to know what Chris's favorite number one conspiracy theories.

I'm going to ask him when he's about that. What's the number one? Ask him about specifically about what's the plane that crashed to the Pentagon. What are you doing? Hold on. Where's the speaker on this? You can tap him right into the headphones. No, it hasn't been off.

Hey, listen, I'm doing a podcast and I have a quick question for you, Chris. What? My question is, what do you think happened in 9-11? What really happened? We're having a discussion about it. There's a total inside job. Did Cheney ask him this? Wait, so this guy has this thing about chain.

What's the question? Did Cheney have a do not shoot down order for the planes? Yeah. Because there was a bunch of, there was a bunch of training games going on in like the Midwest, United States. So all of the fighter jets. At the same time, they were confused as to what the hell they were supposed to do. Was he really confused? Where's this guy live?

I need to get him on here. Oh, bro. He's, he's, he's, there was also, if you realize, there was also something called the New American, and the new American was a group, you know, mined together groups, and they said they needed an incident like a new Pearl Harbor. Have you watched the documentary, 9-11, the New Pearl Harbor? They needed an incident like a new Pearl Harbor. Get rid of Saddam Hussein.

There were no weapons of mass destruction, as you know. It was all bullshit. It was all sold by CNN. Duffy, but that earned it. But anyway, it was all an inside job. If you look at building six, Building 7 fell down on its own imprint, and there was no plane that hit it. Yeah.

Yeah, but the Building 7 thing, I don't know about Building 7. The Building 7 thing, wasn't Building 7 full of like some sort of like chemicals or gas? Wasn't it full of, like, like, no, it was. It was full of files and information that they didn't want to get out. I heard that it was, they were storing all kinds of like chemicals and shit in there. Oh, and if you notice, there was a camera. on that building on TV and video.

It takes time to set up a camera with cables and that camera was set on Building 7 and recording for hours. What about the plane that hit the Pentagon? The Pentagon's what, four stories tall

and it's a 30-acre mile wide footprint? Why wouldn't they crash into the roof? Wouldn't it be easier to like crash the plane to the roof cause more destruction than it would just to be to like fly the plane 50 feet above the ground? ground and hit this. First of all, it was a cruise missile. There was no plane. There was

no tail. There was no fuselage. There was no wings. There was no baggage of people. There was no dead bodies. There were no, to your point, there were no images of any plane remnants or anything. Like,

there was no video. At Chantville, Pennsylvania either. Right. You can see the planes flung into the towers, but there's no footage or photos of a plane flying into the Pentagon. Right. Okay, let's scratch this. Let's go to something else.

And there was cameras at the nearby Marriott that the FBI confiscated. They didn't want anybody to see them. We need those. We need those. Listen, I have something completely different. I got a completely different one. What about...

What's up, Matt Cox? What's going on, bro? I got to get you on here. Listen, what about this? What about Oklahoma City, the Oklahoma City bombing? The Alper P. The Lerrepeed Maro building, yeah. There's your take on that.

There were three bombs in the building that never went off. That was put in there by the CIA before, what's his name, did the truck bomb. You've got to get him on here. Okay, one more, I have another one. What was, what is the thing? You guys have got to see 9-11, the Road to Tyranny by Alex Jones. I'm watching right now 9-11

the new Pearl Harbor Okay Have you seen that You gotta see 9-11 The road to write this down 9-11 The road to tyranny I'm asking about Bohemian Grove

By Alex Jones I don't know if it's still on YouTube Ever they took it down What is it? I'm asking about Bohemian Grove What do you know about Bohemian Grove That's... It's out 150 miles out

On the woods What's going on there? worship this big owl called Malik, which is in the Bible in Leviticus. This guy's Alex Jones. Oh, he is. You were sacrificing your children into the fire to have good luck in, you know, farming and things like that.

Is there any homosexuals there? They have what's called a cremation of care, which is this really sick fucking ritual that they supposedly have an effigy of a child. or a human that they burn in the fire. Supposedly, it's an effigy, and it's a place where they have all kinds of weird, sexual things and all that.

You should get a book by Kathy O'Brien called The Transformation of America, and in there, she was a sex slave for those people, for the elite, and a guy named Mark Phillips, who was the CIA agent got her out of it. But she had been a sex slave for years, and she wrote a book called The Transformation of America. He can do this with any fucking thing.

What, watch, watch. What about the moon? What about the moon landing? What do you think about that? Well, I don't think the moon landing happened in the first ones, but the other ones did happen. And guess what? What happened when it rang like a bell? Recently, you're going to flip on this one.

when they took off the module that was discharged from the actual takeoff and it hit the moon and the moon rang like a bell for hours that means it's hollow and now a lot of people think that the moon was actually towed into place centuries ago

and that it's that it's actually hollow So I have a question real quick. You know the Navy jets that got all those, that got those UFO things on tape? Yeah, what do you think those are? What's, what's the? The UFOs. Are they extraterrestrial or are they Russian cruise missiles?

Oh, no, they're extraterrestrial, dude. They're 25,000 miles an hour. Yeah, they're extraterrestrial. rules. And they stop and they go, they come down to the water, then they shoot up to the sky, 80,000 feet or whatever.

How do you know it's not China or Russia? Nobody has a technology for that. So, I, okay, I got another one. What about this? And listen, bro, like he'll have books and he, listen, you should have seen him in prison. He, he, he

had tons of books, like all kinds pictures, books. And this is in prison. I can only matter what he's got now. But wait, one more thing. One thing. Listen, this is another thing. So what is the thing that, what's the number that you always look for, the, the, what they're borrowing money against our social security number and you can get, if you get your, what was the name

of the, the number you were trying to get that you got? Oh, you mean the QSysm number. Cusick number. And what is, what is that number good for? Why, why do you need that? Well, every number that you get from the federal government is attached to a QSIP number. which is an international trading system that they have set up through Fidelity in the SEC.

You just look up Q subnumber.com. You can read about it or go to Wikipedia. You can read about it. But QSysb number, everything you get from the federal government, like your Social Security number, your driver's license number, passport, and Matt, even the federal ID number that we had in prison, all those numbers have a major QSIP number attached to it. Okay.

And if it has a QSysm number attached to it, it has what's called a pooling and servicing agreement. And what they do is they add a bid bond, performance bond, and payment bond to it. They actually securitize them and sell them as asset back securities on the stock market, which are, you know, later connected to REITs and mutual funds and things like that. So you understand at one point, hey, at one point you gotten in trouble in the state, and didn't you file something against the judge? judge or you tried to get your your your your oh no I filed something against a judge to make her the trustee and she didn't like that she put me in jail and don't and you're are you did you

ever get uh become a sovereign citizen did you that ever go through yeah yeah what is a sovereign citizen anyway these guys are asking all right basically all right there's a the United States of America and the United States. If you look up United States Code Title 28, Section 30002, subsection 15A, you will see the United States in capital

letters as a federal corporation that was actually incorporated just after the Civil War. It's what is a fascist corporate military democracy. What we had was the United States

of America incorporated the 1787, which was a de jure republic. And that's where you want to get back to. That's where you want to be sovereign. You're above the actual government, because you have, and they pronounce it this way, they say, unalienable rights, correct? You've always heard that.

Well, it's not unalienable rights. If you look at the word unalienable in the dictionary, there's no meaning to it because the word is not unalienable it's pronounced unalienable rights key word being lean where the government cannot lean

levy or sees against you yet we have now a fascist corporate military democracy and a democracy is a worst form of government before you have total tyranny which is what you've seen on the news and what's happening now

does he think we should have an autocracy So what, Sorry, Danny wants to know if you think we should have an Autocracy? Autocracy. Should we be like China? Should we be like China? Fuck, no.

No. Then what else? Well, there are options we have. You need a capitalistic system based on trade and that, all that. And what they have is pure communism mixed with capitalism right now, but you don't have freedoms.

You don't have the freedoms we have here, even though we're losing those freedoms slowly. Well, hey, listen, Danny wants to, we got to wrap it up, but I'm going to talk to Danny. Danny's the guy who's running this. The podcast is called Concrete. Oh, yeah.

We got it on YouTube. Yeah. But I'm going to contact you. I'm going to give you Danny's information and see if we can try and get you on here. Are you able to travel or? No, I can. He's in, where are you at anyway?

That works. days a week. What's that near? Margate is near Pompano Beach. Pompano Beach. It's in Fort Lauderdale. Can he come to Tampa for a day? With the probation officer?

Yeah, if you get okay from the probation officer. Well, hey, let me call you back. Let me call you back. I'm on foot. Bye. All right, bye. I know a lot of people who know all the shit that he knows. There are a lot of people like that around here.

Bro, he's something else, man. And he's got a great memory. He's red-pilled. He got red-pilled, like in the Matrix. Yeah, he... He's great, though. We would go into his cell. You could sit there for hours.

And just you get anything you could come up with. What do you go to prison for her? He was running... He was charging people. Like, he would literally get your taxes. He would do that thing where all the money you had paid in and interest and everything else. And he would...

They'd come up with some calculation. They'd apply to the government to get the money back. And the government would cut checks for like 1.5 million. and they borrowed something like $30 million. And guys were getting the checks. And they were cashing them. They were going through. And then they'd get 10% of it.

So when they got caught, you know, they're saying, well, no, no, it's perfectly legal. You understand your honor this, you're on or that. Look, and this code and that code. Yeah. They went to trial. He and all these guys went to trial. They lost.

Guys are getting 25 years. He got like 15, 16 years. Wow. He was making phone calls. He was just making phone calls. What's a dude's name? Chris Marrero. It's awesome.

He's wild. Chris Moreau. We gotta get him on here, bro. Listen, and he gets... He gets super animated, too. Like, he gets all like, no, what happened? He gets excited. He's like, no, I'm telling.

It's exciting shit. Hilarious, bro. And he's super smart. Like, you're like, but, you know, he believes, like, every, everything out there, he has a, there's a conspiracy. What is the, what do you think about people? Do you believe any of this shit he says? No. None of it.

No. You don't believe any of it. Why don't you think? You're not interested in it. You don't think not one of them could be true? No, I'm some saying there's some semblance in some conspiracies. I'm not saying there's not, but I mean, not every, like not everyone has, you know, sometimes people just, they, they, they, sometimes they, they blow up a building. The guy's pissed off, he puts, he gets some fertilizer and some diesel, mixes it up, he blows up a building.

He's an asshole. There's just assholes out there. Yeah, like, everything, like, like these kids shooting up schools. What do you think about, he'll have a whole conspiracy behind it? What do you think about the unbodies? seen those two. Like the Sandy Hook. Yeah.

Oh, what happened was they were being crisis actors. LSD by the CIA and they were in and you'll be like, what? Well, the CIA LSD thing is real. It's actually been proven. I know, but not for like Sandy Hooker. Right.

Like, I mean, he'll have, he'll, there will be a conspiracy. Give the CIA. My phone number. He just doesn't take anything.

He doesn't take anything. Do you know anything about Columbine about those kids? Did you read anything about that? I mean, did I read anything about it? Do you know anything about like? I don't know. remember when that happened?

Yes, but I don't know anything that wasn't on since its fault. Yeah, they listened. Those kids were actually listening to Marilyn Manson and that's the reason they did that. It's Marilyn, it's Marilyn Manson's fault. Oh, come on. They were deeply disturbed kids and they could have been listening to Cindy Lopper and probably done the same fucking thing. I mean, you know what I'm saying? It's like, you're just disturbed and you're going to come up with a reason to do something really sick because you're being picked on.

Didn't those kids write some sort of like manifesto before they did that? They wrote some like. had written like journals and they were i think they've written about it since then yeah because i know jordan peterson has talked about reading their like right kids lived no they died they killed themselves oh no which ones are the ones that live like now they're all like got life sentences or something oh i don't know yeah he because he oh no no or wait he read i think he read their journals or something yeah that's uh columbine yeah okay then he had read the journals and stuff and he was like you know They were upset about this and this,

and they wanted to go out in a way. But here's the thing. Do you, like, he talks about it, but do you think they believed that they were doing the right thing? Or do you think they believed they were doing the wrong thing? I've no idea. I haven't read anything. I don't know enough to, all I know is that they killed.

They shot a bunch of their, of their, I feel like they think they were just saying, fuck it. I mean, I don't think they thought they were doing a righteous act. But, I mean, think about it. How many times in high school were you, you know, or middle school, you know, where you, if you're being picked on or, you get frustrated and you lash out. I never thought about killing everybody.

No, I never thought about going and getting an AR-15 and just mowing anybody down. Maybe I hate everybody or something. Right. But you get frustrated and angry and pissed off and, you know. Some people snap. Yeah, but these guys were like, they were like super premeditated with it. Like they thought about it and wrote about it for months. Yeah, but they, they, you know,

And they, apparently from their, whatever they wrote about it, they truly believed that they were doing the world of service by getting rid of all these people. Yeah, well, they were, they were assholes, you know. Some people are just assholes. Some people are just assholes. That's true. Yeah. Especially there'd three or four of them together, and they've got access to weapons, you know,

and they're awkward teenagers with pimples that don't have girlfriends. Yeah, they're like, they were super young too, right? there was still like teenagers. They weren't even in their 20s yet. Right. They start thinking in their 20s. What do you mean? They were in their teens.

They were all like teens. They were like 14, 15 years. That happened. That happened. That happened. That happened. That happened. I mean, I think they ended up, you know,

and then they got upset, and then they went in. They just started executing people. Yeah. They're just little scumbags. They had that documentary bowling for Columbine that one guy made. What was it? Well, he did Fahrenheit 9-9-1.

Yeah, Fahrenheit 911. Yeah. What was that guy's name? Yeah, he was huge. He did. Michael, Michael Moore. Yeah.

He interviewed Marilyn Manson in the documentary. Did he? Yeah. What did he say? Because they all blamed him. The news blamed him for it. They like band a bunch of his shows or whatever. And they were like, don't you promote this kind of stuff, this imagery and this kind of

thought process and your, in your music and everything? He's like, what would you say to those kids if they were here right now? And Marilyn Manson said, I wouldn't say a word to them. I would listen to what they had to say. And that's what no one did. Nice. Boom. Mike drop.

Well, all right, what are we doing? Matt Cox, what's going on? What's up with your love life? Let's talk about it. Since we always do. Nobody's going to listen this far. You're back in love. Yeah, what is it?

30, 40%. Back in love. What is love? I was always in love. Matt's riding the roller coaster right now. Usually Matt comes in a little crying, a little sad. A little heart.

A little heart. A, nah, nah, nah. Now he's feeling good. I am feeling really good. coming in, he's got a new swag, he's got a new outfit. He's happy. Matt's feeling cocky. This is Matt every time he comes in the podcast.

What a classic song. It just reminds me to be a big of a bad head movie. Matt's feeling good right now. He's riding the roller coaster. Yeah, exactly. The roller coaster of love, Matt. You're on the up right now. That right there.

Copyright strike. He's on the part where it goes. You're at tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. You're climbing the roller coaster right now. You're on Space Mountain, Matt Cox. We'll see. You're about to run through the list. Listen, and she's on her best behavior.

Nothing in life is steady, Matt Cox. Like the last four or five weeks. If you were on an even line right now, you'd be dead. Just like the heart monitor. No, you don't want that. It's all about ups and downs. It's all about ups and downs. So my ups and downs are way worse than most people.

Like, you know, it's like, 26 years in prison. Dead broke, you know, tons of money, you know, totally in love. Your girl's long gone. Right in a movie. They steal it. They steal it from you. Price doesn't give you your damn credit.

But then you find out they have the credit in there. Then they're cutting your check. Then the bath. And it's like, oh. And that's just, yeah, it's bad. Matt, you're riding it. Yeah. It's all right.

It's all right. Well, that's good to see. Yeah. Yeah. Let's hope Life is good. We don't have any more crying. Me coming back here.

There will be. It's inevitable. There will be crying. Tears of joy. When you put in a ring on it, man? Are you going to propose? I said six months. I said, let's say, let's see.

Matt is like the hopeless romantic. So you can go, can we go six months? We'll do a ring. Six more months. You'll do the wedding. We'll do a wedding. Nice. But just let's, you know, it's not that I don't believe you.

You and Jess. Not that I'm not in love. Not that I don't think that you're all in. Let's just. Let's make sure. Let's just make sure. Yeah, listen, listen, I love the Mike Tyson thing. Everybody's got to play until they get punched in the mouth.

That's right. Listen, my plans, I'm getting punched all the time. But plan ain't never gone my way. So, no. We'll see. Are you never going to have any more kids? No. I'm a hundred years old, bro.

I can't even pick up a child. What's your sperm count looking like? I don't think I could out live a dog's life. Like his hair line. What's your sperm count looking like? I mean, I don't know what the sperm count's looking like, but I got them pills. Everything's good. That's different from the sperm count.

Everything is all right. I don't need the sperm count. Some women want babies. Listen, we're good. I'm good. They got dogs. Yeah. You get a dog.

Yeah. Not really. cat person. Not that I don't like them they're nice, I guess they're okay. I just not a cat. Bro, what is that thing that toxoplasmosis? You ever heard of that? Oh my God, bro. How did you just come up with

toxos plasmosis? Look up toxoplasmosis. Sounds interesting. So there's this shit that people get that are around cats a long time. People that own cats, they develop this fucking, this thing in their brain called toxoplasmosis, right? That comes from cats. And it's a, it's like

a... Okay, here's this. Toxoplasmosis is a disease that results from infection with toxoplasma. Wow. A Gandhi parasite, one of the world's most common parasites. Infection usually occurs by eating undercooked contaminated meat exposure from infected cat feces. That's why pregnant women can't go around cat litter because of toxoplasmosis. She knows. or mother-to-child transmission during pregnancy. So it's the shit that you can get from cats. So there's this thing.

It's this fucking parasite. It's like this super fucking smart parasite. It gets into rats, right? Listen to this. It gets into rats. And the way that it gets transmitted to cats is it makes the rats fucking dicks get hard and get, it's fucking, gets super horny,

gets a hard dick whenever it smells cat piss. So all these rats get super fucking. fucking horny with hardons. Whenever they smell cat piss, right? So these rats are attracted to the cat piss, which brings them near the cats. Then the cats see the rats, the fucking cats eat the rats.

Now the rat is in the cat. That's how the fucking disease... This sounds like a Dr. Seuss book. Bro, that's how... The rat is in the cat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how the disease gets, fucking transfers itself to the cat.

And now the cat had... You mean the parasite. The parasite, right. The parasite, right. And the cat. Now the cat has the parasite. And the parasite knows that the parasites.

Humans like to keep cats as pets. Yes. So it goes into the cat. Imagine if that was like... That's the next level. Imagine if that was like humans and grizzly bears. I don't know about all that. But so then the cat licks the mom and she gets a parasite.

That's what he says. That's smart. So people get... Find out what the... Find out what the symptoms or like what the effects of toxoplasmosis is on humans. Yeah, like what does it matter? Like what is it? We have parasites all through our body.

What does it do to humans? But this is crazy, though, because a lot of people like, a lot of cat owners get this. Swollen lymph nodes. Especially around the neck. Muscle aches and pains, headaches, fevers, generally feeling unwell, inflammation of the lungs. I have all that. That's it? Cure that with a joint.

How do you know if you have toxoplasmosis? Doctor can do a blood test to see if you have those antibodies. Anyways. Your cat definitely has that. Do you have a cat? Your cat's how they're roaming around, eating all the school. I do a cat. You have a kid?

For the first time. You what? I got a cat for the first time a year ago. But my cat's an outdoor cat. Okay, my cat at night, we let him out. He fucking roams the streets. He goes from, he neighborhood hops all night long. He shows up at the doorstep at 7 a.m.

It comes in. He eats and then he goes back out. That's how I want to live in life. Yeah. Show up to somebody's house. Eat. You don't have to pay for fucking shit. Roamed the neighborhood all night.

Come back in. eat and he's living. And he's not fixed. He's humping the whole goddamn town. Talk so plasmosis everywhere. He's humping all the cats around town and all the rats are getting hard balls and dicks and eating his people. I'm not a the hard balls. I don't know

how that entered in this all next level parasites. I don't. I mean we got to get, I'll bet if we, I'll bet Chris has a whole thing. Imagine if there's a version of that with humans and grizzly bears for humans. He's got to fucking horny and fucking

Grizzly bear piss The grizzly bear just fucking ate us What is happening? I got to drive across the bridge, bro. We got to wrap this up. Sell some paintings, man. I mean, listen, I sell paint. How much is the painting?

They're not even expensive. They're inexpensive. How much? $2.95 and I ship it to you. That's a deal. Show us the gray purple biggie. We like that one. The gray purple biggie.

This one's pretty cool. Hold on. Oh my God This one? No, the other gray and purple biggie. That's a good one. That one's fire. How long is this process of making one of these?

That's a fine arch degree right there. Look, you even put the X on the edge of the painting. It wraps the sides. I got more. I got a few more. I got like three more of these. I mean, they're all different. They're all different colors.

and I paint him. Yeah, bro. I want to picture a Trump with two stealth bombers flying above his head as he's sitting on the fucking on the ninth hole of Mar-a-Lago. I'm telling you,

did you watch that video? No, I couldn't find it. I was looking through the fucking DMs. I couldn't find it. Unreal. I want like a fucking fish-eye angle of Trump holding his putter on the green on the ninth hole

of Mar-a-Lago. They should put that scene in a movie. Two stealth bombers over his head and like a little like caption quote. That's power, baby. I'll do that. I'll do that. Except it should be Trump and John Bailey.

I could do that with him holding, yeah, holding the putter and the planes going behind him up. And do the, that's power, baby. Yeah. Did you say, baby? No, I don't know. That's power.

That's power. I try to find it and send it to you guys. That's good. You got to find it, bro. I can do that, I can do that like three foot by, maybe three foot by, three foot by two foot. Matt, have you seen that we created an Instagram group chat between the three of us.

Have you seen it? No. Because we pulled up. We put shit in there all the time and you've never said anything. Because he didn't, he just told me tonight when I got a notification. But it's been, it's been going for like six months. We've been sending you shit for like months now. We've sent shit all the time in a group chat.

You got to get in there and respond to us. But I've never seen you respond. That's because I didn't even know, because you know what? So I have two Instagrams. One's the pop art one, which I run. No, we send it to the regular one. Then you have the InsudgerTruit.com. Right.

That one, I don't respond to Because I've got a guy who takes care of that. How do we respond to you? How do we get to the one that you'd look at? I mean, the Cox Pop Art. That's my Instagram. We got to add that account in there. Yeah.

Because then I would get them. It's called Concrete with, but spelled C-O-N. What's your thing called? Cox, C-O-X. Pop art. Cogs Pop Art. Unreal. Follow back.

All right. I'm on it. All right. How do I add them to the... Or the group chat. All right, group chat. I thought you were just ghosting us. All right, can I...

How do I add them into this? Go to... We don't have to... Yeah, that. Click add. You even follow you back. I think I... Don't I take all followers if you just follow him?

Uh-huh. Is it the Lucas kid? Cox. Pau bar. All right, you're added. But he's probably not going to see anything we already said. That's it. Got it. Oh, no, no. I can see it.

I'm going to remove inside true crime because fuck that one. I got, oh, look at what. Can you see all the old stuff? Are you serious? Yeah, look, what, what's what? What are you guys doing? What is it? I didn't see that one. This is how we communicate all day, every day, so you have to respond to us on this. But you don't, I didn't know any of this was happening. Now you do. Oh, there's Danny with his little boy. Where? That's your picture. Oh, my profile picture. Yeah. Yeah. Bro, what do you think about all this Joe Rogan controversy going on?

They're trying to ban him. Joe Rogan began right before the Spotify earnings report, causing problems for the CEO on the call and contributing in part to the drop in its stock price. Spotify officials say in the earnings call that they did not expect their subscriber numbers to be affected by the uproar over accusations that Joe Rogan has spread misinformation about COVID

and the vaccines. Misinformation. Misinformation. I bet you Chris doesn't think it's misinformation. No. Chris? Chris. We should have had him going on the COVID.

The problem of COVID is that everything's, how can you say it's misinformation? They change the fucking, we don't know what's going on. Everything changes every single month. He's not pro-vaccine. Yeah. Are you vaxed? Me? Yeah.

Oh, man. Let me tell you. She's in the bathroom. Okay, yeah. So I had to go to Amsterdam, right? And what happened was just before I went to Amsterdam, like, you, you, You either had to, you had to, like, have the vaccine, or you'd take a test within, like, 24 hours, right, of getting on the plane. So I went in and I got the vaccine, you know?

But you had to have the vaccine 10 days prior to going, and I got it on, like, day five. And I didn't know that until I got it. And then it was like, fuck. So now I got it. So then I went home, when I went back, when I saw her, and I told her, I got, I got the vaccine. fucking What's one Did you get

Johnson and Johnson? Oh no! She's like, Oh my gosh You got the fucked one You don't know what that is You don't know what's wrong That's the worst one

I'm like I'm fine It's gonna be fine And she's like Oh you have now 15 years from now When you end up You're infertile now You're sterile

You're sterile You're sterile I'm 100 years old I'm probably infertile anyway So you know She went nuts And I ended up

Having to get tested Anyway Within 24 hours of me getting on the plane anyway. So you got it for no reason. For no reason at all. What's the whole Vax controversy about, Matt Cox? Me?

What's it boiled down to? What is it? What's the whole stink about? I mean, it's just that basically... The whole vaccination controversy. What's it all about? They're trying to make you get something. They're trying to make you get the vaccine,

even though getting the vaccine doesn't stop you from getting the virus. It makes it a little bit more difficult. And then they're saying that because enough people don't get it, the people that did get it are still getting the virus, even though they're supposed to be protected. Like it's a halt to me. It's just none of it makes sense, but whatever. What's the point of it?

Why is the government pushing it so hard? I don't know. I'm sure that Chris will tell you they're putting tracking devices in it. What do I think? That was going to ask you that. You've never even thought about it. I mean, I've thought about it. But it just don't care.

I just don't. I just don't. I just don't, it's just, the end of the day. I just don't think I'm going to come up with the answer. And it's not worth worrying about something that I can't control. Control. And don't have the answer to. And in the end, I don't know that it's.

I don't, I just, even if I knew the answer right now, what would it change? I could, what, go do a podcast and talk about it? And then they, YouTube would shut me down immediately because I talked about it. I could go on. What could I do? Yeah, but there's some people, done. There's some people on here who are listening to you that respect what you say and think you have a valid opinion and think that you're a thinking person. What, I think is, I think people value your opinion.

What are your thought? Like, if you actually had a, took time to think about it, what you would come up with. There's people that actually value your opinion and what you think about. I mean, well, they're, they're sorely mistaken because I don't really had that much of an opinion. I don't think my opinion means that much anyway. And I don't really, and it doesn't matter. There's so much bad information out there. Don't you think the government has our best interest in mind?

Like, they really do care about our health and they want us to be healthy and, like, they're not corrupt. And they actually, you know. They just bat in a thousand. They do care about us. They don't lie. I don't believe any of that. Why? I mean, I think that I'm sure there are decent people in the government,

but I also think that there are people that are put in positions and they take advantage of their power and their situation. And Pfizer and those companies, those are good companies, you know, with high moral standards. He's trying not to get a band. Right? I mean, I mean, I'm getting brownie points on YouTube right now. I think.

And the only reason that YouTube censors, the people that talk shit about them is because You know, YouTube cares about the health of the Americans. And Danny just got another plaque. It's in the mail. They're in the mail right now. I mean, I'm being serious. I mean, I'm not a CIA shill, but. Poor Bruce.

Well, if you don't believe they have your best interest, then you have to believe in some conspiracy theories, right? I mean, I believe in some. They're good. The government is full, and the CIA is full of good, honest people. No, you can't trust them. You know one sometime, one time what my grandpa said? He said, if I wanted to watch somebody lie, I'd turn on the news.

Nice. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't have the answer. Do you have the answers? No, I'm just curious. I'm asking you questions because you're my guest. I don't have the answers.

Listen, man, I just, you know, I'm like everybody else. I just want to watch some sitcoms and eat some TV dinners. TV dinners? Yeah, I do. What kind of TV dinners? What do we eat? Lockozoz? Lean cuisine?

You eat the lean cuisine? I love lean cuisine. They're cheap. They're like $3.50. Wait, what do we get two for? Just like they served us in the state feds. Three for. Chipotle closes in 20 minutes.

I'm fucked. Order a breeder. We get, buy three, get one three. Yeah, it's like three. They're like $3 in change and you get them and I love them. I love them. I've been eating them for like two years now. Really?

Yeah. How is it compared to prison food? I mean, it's 10 times better than prison food. Although I made one for Juan the other day, and he was like, are you guys living together now? No. And I was like, I was like, I was like, that's pretty good, right? Pretty good, right?

And he looked at it. And he goes, yeah, no, it's good. It's good. I go, see, I told you. He goes, what are you talking about, bro? He goes, this sucks. Because you're eating these twice a day. And I went, yeah, he goes, it's horrible.

This is horrible. He got all upset, but I think they're actually good. I like them. And they're low calorie. No. I'm concerned about my, concerned about my calorie. Wait until you guys get to me. Low calorie.

Shouldn't you be more worried about, like, sugar and carbs, than you should be worried about calories? Bro, I eat a ton of sugar. What about carbs? Yeah, he's going to Starbucks. I think I'm moderate carbs. I try and eat as much protein as possible, but, you know. And we work out, we work out at, like, I mean, I've been getting better.

I was waking her up at, like, 4 o'clock, 3 o'clock, 4 o'clock in the morning, but there was a lot of, a lot of... For what? To go work out at, be at the gym at 5. 3 or 4? Yeah, well, I don't... sleep but maybe four or five hours a night. And so she gets upset because apparently she's insisting that you need like six or eight hours

a night or something. So I need at least seven. That's nuts. I could never sleep seven. I can't function without seven to eight hours. This morning I woke up at three thirty. I woke up at three thirty. I went to,

we went to bed at like eleven. 10. 30. 10. 11. I slept till three. I woke up at three 30 in the morning. Laid there for about 10 minutes.

Went back to sleep. woke up at 4.30. laid there for a little bit, woke up at 5.30, and finally rolled out of bed because I just just can't. That's like how my wife sleeps. Yeah, I can't sleep more than straight, maybe four hours straight. Same thing in my wife. Yeah. My wife are like the same. You and my wife are like very similar in a lot of ways. That's odd. That was an odd thing to say. Let's let's, let's end it on that. Yeah. I'm not even seeing that. I got you didn't reach over. Because I sleep

I sleep fucking I don't wake up I fall asleep at 11 o'clock at night And I sleep Uninterrupted I fucking snooze 11 to 730 or 8 Oh no I don't wake up once

She wakes up every two hours I wake Listen I wake her up with coffee I go get her coffee I'm like hey here's some coffee come on Let's go we gotta go to the gym And she's like are you fucking serious about this I'm like come on let's go

Let's go We're doing legs We're new legs Come on, come on, come on. And she's like, are you really? I'm like, come on, I let you sleep in. She just let me sleep in. It's 5.30 in the morning.

I'm like, right. I bet up to three. Did you work out this morning? Yeah. What is your workout routine? You do like a lot of cardio or do you just do a lot of weight lifting? We're really just doing cardio because I'm doing, I mean, we're really just doing weightlifting at this point because I do cardio like pretty much every day at this point.

Because we just, huh? What kind of cardio? I mean. That burns a lot of calories. That burns a lot of calories. That's the only cardio. That's my only cardio. But listen,

trust me, you want to see my abs? I mean, it's working, bro. You need more than three minutes of cardio a day, man.

Stop, stop, stop. That's not what's happening. Lucky you. So anyway, yeah, so we just working out. Congratulations.

We're working out. Yeah. Yeah. Good. I'm sure at some point to die down and I'll have to start doing, I'll start doing the elliptical again. Yeah.

Do you ever do hot yoga? No, I don't know what that is. What's hot yoga? It's yoga, that's hot. Yoga, and it's basically yoga and a sauna. You what yoga is? I mean, I know what yoga is. Okay.

And they just turn to heat up. It's like yoga in a sauna. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do it without the air conditioning. I don't want to do anything without air conditioning. They turn to heat on. I hate the hot. Do you ever use a sauna?

I mean, I've been in a sauna like a long time ago. I never really liked the sauna. Why? It's just very sweaty. Yes, that is true It's just very It just doesn't feel It's just weird

It's good for you I know, I know I don't think so I disagree You disagree And I don't have you to back that up I just feel It's not tall enough for that ride

You know That was fucked up Take it back Take it back Very mean Me spirited You're both mean Both of it

That was him Not me take that back Like that's the first time That's been said So yeah I don't have anything back it up But I just feel like they're just disgusting sonnas in general. They're probably pretty unhygienic.

They're more sanitary than most things, I would think. I'm not sure about that. Like, one of the things. Bro, the sauna is so hot, it probably like burns up all of the bacteria and parasites and shit. They say that the sauna kills COVID. They say COVID can't survive in that kind of heat. Why aren't, then why aren't all the hospitals filled with saunas? Like, you got COVID?

Put them in the sauna, Jim. You know, no. I disagree. Yeah, do people in really warm climates not get COVID? Then how come you don't step into a sauna? Why aren't we all just having saunas? Like, why didn't they just issue everybody's sauna?

Why am I wearing a mask? You can't make money off a sauna? Bacteria can live in hotter and cooler temperatures than humans, but they do best in a warm, moist, protein-rich environment. Yeah, sounds exactly like a sauna. Google, does a sauna, can COVID survive in a sauna? It says it grows between,

40 and a buck 40 bullshit can COVID survive in a sauna Google that 140 is or sonnas 140 no hell no I'm gonna say I okay so if they're close I think I think the sonnas are typically like 1 1 10

110 maybe but bacteria lives in up to 140 so it grows up What is it? What is it bacteria? COVID's not a bacteria What is it? COVID is a virus A virus yeah so that's different so what what kind of What's the max temperature for viruses Yeah. Can sauna cure COVID?

If Google had that's what I would search. Bringing the sauna temperature to at least 160 degrees throughout the space, including Florida, it should be effective to disinfect any virus. Including humans. Who's going to live in 160? Yeah. A buck 60? Can I survive in a 160 degree temperature?

How hot does sanas get? You might as well, can you step in? That's an oven. That's how you slow roast some ribs. That is like a trigger. You could slow cook some ribs on a trigger at 150. I guess it'd probably take a good six, eight hours. Maybe you're all right for 10 minutes.

Yeah. Just cook yourself, bro. I don't want to go in a sauna. Okay. We go into sauna. Do you? Yeah. I was in a hundred.

A couple times a week. Really? I spent probably a total of two and a half hours a week in a sauna. No, that's a lot. Two and a half hours a week, five times, 30 minutes time, every time. You got to pop a 30 minutes. a day every day. No, no, probably two, maybe two hours.

Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. I'm not really a sauna person. You go in there. Plus I do the hot yoga. You do hot yoga? Yeah. Why?

It's really good for you. It feels fucking great. I feel good. I don't do hot yoga and I don't go to ensana's. I feel great. And pretty good shape. Yeah. It's all mental.

It's all a placebo. What's the diet? What's the diet thing you're doing? Are you still doing this, this, um... No, I'm on a regular diet. No, I try. Yeah, he was, I was, I tried, I try it. I try it all kinds of crazy diets.

I try, I'm, I fuck around with all the different types of diets and, and... What was the one where you were starving yourself for like 12 hours a day or something? No, I did, I did, I did, I, I did, I fast. I don't eat for like seven days. Okay. One, I'd do like a seven day stint with no food. Is that good? He'll probably usually make it about four to seven.

I'd make it five at least. The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I've copped out. one time I copped out at four days. One time I copped out at five days and then one time I copped out at six days. So I've actually never done the full seven. I fast pretty much every day until I get hungry.

Yeah. I mean, it says, yeah. So. Hmm. Where is a guy? A. L.A. Fitness is still a thing. Really?

There's L.A. Fitness. It's in, um, Wesley Chapel. Wesley Chapel. Um, there's a guy who fast. for 380 days. How's that possible? What's that guy like? What's that guy?

He's all bones. Yeah, you can eat, you can eat like beef broth, like bone broth and you can drink water. You don't eat, bro. That dude, yeah, he's got to be all fucked up inside. That's like, actually not really. He is like probably one of the healthiest people in the fucking earth. That's how you can cure anything. Yeah.

That's why they say a lot of animals, when they get sick, they don't eat for a couple of days. All right. man angus barbary somebody named that does some weird shit like this faster for 382 days Jim Jones doesn't do some stuff like this look at that look at that guy coffee soda water and vitamins

bro the amount of fucking discipline it requires to not eat for five days is un fucking godly can we see a picture of this guy is that the fat guy the diet that that's him I mean find a better picture of this guy yeah what do you look like He was nothing there in the rights.

Bone and ears. It says they lost 265 pounds. Click the picture. Austin, you're really fucking shit in the bed today on Google. Yeah, bro. Can we see a picture, Austin? You had a picture. Austin's usually on it.

He had too much Man Oshabas tonight. That's before and after. Whoa. This is a long time ago, huh? Whoa. You know who Kelly Slater is? He doesn't look good, bro. He doesn't look good.

Do you know who Kelly Slater is? No, he lost a lot of weight. Kelly Slater does seven-day fasts. It's good for you. You know what it does? So you know your digestive system, your stomach and your intestines over a lifetime, over 20, 34 years. You build up this shit inside of your gut that lines your intestines. It's called a mucoyed plaque.

And basically what it is, from like decades of eating shit or eating food, whatever it is you develop this shit or food you develop a lining of just like plaque shit that comes from your food that lined your intestines which it inhibits um the your digestive tracts ability to absorb nutrients and shit right you should just take fiber just like just like plummetamusel get rid of it no no so what is what happens when okay what happens when you fast for that long um is that shit that shit starts to strip off the insides of your gut and your intestines and that shit starts to come out of you so that's what that's what like prolonged fasting does like three four five six days does to you 10 days and like it's basically like what do you use to clean out your plumbing shit draino you know how

like your plumbing in your house gets like it gets like coated with grime and you use draino this is like fasting does the same thing like it cleans out all the bullshit in your intestinal tract in your digestive track. And it enables you to absorb the nutrients from your food again. It's crazy. It's like a fucking... It's what fiber does too. It cleans out your entire system too. No, fiber doesn't clean you out. Fiber just makes you shit.

I don't think it does it that well. Yeah, no. Fiber... Right. This is like... This is like... I'm gonna look into fiber. I'm gonna talk about... Because I don't feel like not eating for seven days.

Right, of course you don't. Well, you just said you didn't eat for like a month. You already... You just did a fast. Oh yeah. You told me you went into a depression fast for a month. No, I didn't never said, I just wasn't eating very much. I didn't say I didn't eat at all. I just wasn't eating like I look like when I'm super happy, I tend to eat more. So when I'm depressed, I literally, I feel sick to my stomach. I, you know, it was like heartbroken. So I was, you know, it was pathetic. Oh, stop. So you went from two lean cuisines a day to one every two days? And it was like one a day

and maybe a little bit of snacking and then just a lot more sleeping. So I got like five hours sleep instead of four, you know, and just depressed. It was just depressed. I don't think it's good for you to get four hours of sleep. But I can't sleep any longer than that. I mean, really, I'll just lay there. I'm like, there's plenty of people to do that. Really?

Yeah. You ever try Ambien? No, I don't think Ambien's good. You're taking an Ambien and just fought it and trying to stay awake. No, I've never taken an ambient. Oh. You should try that one time, I recommend. No.

And write a book. I mean, I have to. They get piss tests and stuff. I mean, I'm not, I can't be experimenting with drugs. Well, Danny said it would be okay, Your Honor. Yeah, well, Danny can come visit you. Because you're coming back to jail. He said Stephen King did it, so I mean.

Yeah, Stephen King did it. All right. How long have we gone? I don't know. Where are you going? I forgot. It's 10 o'clock. Let's end it.

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