Danny Jones Podcast - #135 - Don't Sell Fake Credit Cards to The Russian Mob | John Boseak & Matt Cox

Episode Date: May 2, 2022

John Boseak & Matthew Cox return! Boseak explains why cyber crime and credit card fraud are so prevalent in Russia & Ukraine and we find a doctor for perform Matt's limb extension surgery.  Subscribe... to John - https://www.youtube.com/c/BoseakConundrum  Subscribe to Matt - https://www.youtube.com/c/InsideTrueCrime help us make more money: https://bit.ly/koncretepatreon Follow Danny  https://www.instagram.com/jonesdanny  https://twitter.com/jonesdanny Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:09 True, you guys are now living in the true crime clout house? We're sharing a studio, but he's got his own place. Yeah, yeah, I have my own place in Tampa. I wish you guys lived together. It could be the true crime clout house. The con house. Yeah, we've got to wait for Matthew to get off probation. Are you off probation?
Starting point is 00:00:28 Hell yeah. Really? He's never completed a property. That makes it sound like he completed it. That makes it sound like he completed it and he did a good job and they let him go. That's not what happened at all. They continually violated him, put him in prison until eventually the judge said, you're unsupervisable.
Starting point is 00:00:46 I'm unsupervisedable. Yeah, I've never successfully completed one term of probation my entire life. And I've been on probation since I was 13 years old. Never successfully completed anything. So I get out of prison and I got out of the halfway house and I go right back to fucking making cards. You know what I mean? I just like, fuck it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:01:04 I go right back to it. Yeah, they got me, sent me back to prison. And then I got in front of the judge and she was like, you're not supervisable. How many discounts does USAA auto insurance offer? Too many to say here. Multi-vehicle discount. Safe driver discount. New vehicle discount. Storage discount.
Starting point is 00:01:21 How many discounts will you stack up? Tap the banner or visit usa.com slash auto discounts. Restrictions apply. You know, we've had to extradite you from, you know, every corner of the country to get you back here to get you in front of the judge. So it's like, they killed my paper. They just gave me time served and killed my paper. I had three years of federal probation, but they just squashed it. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I got lucky. Some people get really lucky that way, these little technicalities. Yeah. It's not a technicality. He still ended up in, like, usually what they do is it's usually a third. So let's say you have three years paper. And right away, you end up getting, you violate, let's say the first month. And they'll say, okay, look, we're going to have you do a year's worth of prison time and just quash your paper.
Starting point is 00:02:03 By the time he got in front of the judge, he'd already done, how many months in, prison? It's like six or nine months. Six or nine months. It's like, okay, well, you don't have that much. Like, if we divide that into what you currently have to serve, like, you know what? Just cut him loose.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Because otherwise, what are you going to do? Start his paper over again? Right. Like, it's just you can have these guys, if they kept doing that, then a lot of the guys would never get off probation. I just had this guy on here who's apparently like one of the biggest cyber criminals in history in the U.S. history. And he did a lot of
Starting point is 00:02:37 the fake card stuff too. And he's like, a lot like what you said, a lot of the people that he worked with making fake cards were based in the Ukraine and Russia. Why is that? Yeah, for whatever reason. They're bad people, but Eastern Ukraine. Eastern Ukraine
Starting point is 00:02:53 in Russia is just the climate out there. You get a lot of those kids out there, that's just what they do. A lot of hacking. It's like popular culture where they come from. Isn't it legal there? Well, but you can also run the forum there. You're not going to be able to run a forum here without them cracking down on you.
Starting point is 00:03:10 They had the servers and everything over there too, right? Like Cartered out, SU, where was that located? That was a Russian server. Right. But, you know, they're so goddamn smart over there and tech savvy. Like, your average teenager in Russia knows how to code. You know what I mean? Like, you're just your average teenager over there can code and they can program and they can, you know, do all kinds of shit.
Starting point is 00:03:30 You know, your average teenager here doesn't know dick about coding, you know, so. Who are the guy? How are you talking to these guys that were in Ukraine in Iraq? Russia when you were doing the carding shit. What were you buying from them? Right. So I was, I was purchasing, I was actually selling to them. Oh, you were selling. Yeah, I was actually selling Yeah, I was actually selling clashton. No, no, no, initially I was.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Okay. Initially, I was buying the blank cards, but then I got into, I was actually selling them. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yep. And how are you selling it to them? You were, like, how would the transaction go through? It was either Bitcoin or, uh, we had, like, I had, like, I had West Western Union Services set up. I had all kinds of shit.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Web monies back then was pretty popular. Liberty Reserve back then was pretty popular. And these were like these fly-by-night online payment systems. Kind of similar to what PayPal is. You know what I mean? Like you put $50 in, you get $50 in WMZ. And like say you have an account and I have a wallet, then we can exchange WMZ between each other.
Starting point is 00:04:26 But then there needs to be like a third-party exchanger to cash out of WMZ into whatever currency. Did you ever use Silk Road? It didn't exist back then. Oh, it didn't exist. No, the Silk Road didn't exist. The dark web didn't exist. The onion router wasn't even a thing.
Starting point is 00:04:39 No tour. No tour, no none of that. Wow. Yeah, it was just, you know, VPNs, and you had Russian VPN services that were, you know, you could change all these plugins where you could change SOX proxies and, you know, you could change your VPN, change your IP address, and then go to the forums.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And that's when, you know, all the forums got shut down. But that's when in the heyday, there was a bunch of them. There was like 10 or 15 that were just, like, killing it. No shit. Yeah, the one guy Was on just Lex Friedman That guy, he was in here yesterday Really? You had him on here?
Starting point is 00:05:13 Brett Johnson Yeah, yeah, Brett Johnson Yeah, he was Shadow Crew, man He started Shadow Crew, yeah, yeah He started Shadow Crew Which eventually went on to be Carter dot
Starting point is 00:05:21 Was it Carter. Was it Carter.S.U was the one I was on But then there was previous to that There was something called Carter Planet And then there was Carter.org But he was the godfather Of all of that shit
Starting point is 00:05:33 Like he started it And then when he, when Max, what were the guys' names from Kingpin? Max Butler and Christopher Aragon, when those guys went down, it created like a vacuum in the online space in the marketplace. Because there was nobody else making cards because the feds had taken down Shadow Crew. They had taken down Carter.org. They took down Max Butler or Christopher Aragon. They took down both of the guys that were, you know, selling all the cars and the forums and everything. And, you know, what Max Butler did is he did, like, a hostile takeover of all the forums.
Starting point is 00:06:10 He fucking hacked them all, took all, locked out all of the admin, and then he took all of the users and then put them all into one fucking, one fucking site and sent out emails. Like, you're all just part of this big community now. He locked out all the admin, told him to go fuck themselves. And that's it. It was like just fucking wild takeover of like all the forums. And then when they... The book kingpin. And then when they went down, it created a vacuum.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And then I... That's what kingpins about. Yeah, yeah. And then it kind of... I filled that vacuum. Like, when I came in and started selling cards, it was right after all that shit had happened. So there was nobody...
Starting point is 00:06:42 There was nobody moving plastic, like, you know? Oh, my God. That's so fucking crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I came in and then that was it. Then there was just nobody selling plastic. And that's when it was like... Yeah, so Brett, like, laid the foundation for all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:54 He used the godfather. Shadow Crew, that was like... That was, like, the platform that he created. It was like the trust. Like, he said the reason for that was so all these criminals... He said the reason that these black hat communities could survive and do so well is because all these criminals could work together and talk to each other and trust each other and learn from each other. And the people who are in the white hat are the good guys, they didn't do that. They didn't communicate.
Starting point is 00:07:15 No, and you know, there was like, and this is back in the tutorial days where you could go and there was just, me, people were just, you know, tutorial after tutorial after two. And then that's how I learned. You know what I mean? That's, I would sit up. I remember until six, seven o'clock in the morning, the sun was coming up. and I'd be downloading all these tutorials and I would just be compiling, compiling, compiling those data
Starting point is 00:07:33 and then I would sit up for days just studying all these tutorials. That's fucking wild. They don't do that anymore. That's how I learned how to use Photoshop and how to do the video editing, just watching YouTube tutorials for hours and hours and hours.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Yeah, and this is pre- YouTube. Oh, yeah. Fuck, that's so crazy. Yeah, YouTube's, what, 07? I don't know. 2007, I think four or five, but it took a while to take off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:55 The iPhone, the first iPhone came out in 2007. and it had YouTube pre-installed on it. Okay, so yeah. But, you're like, yeah, I mean, even then, like, I was still doing this, like, oh, three, oh, four. 2005, YouTube came out. Yeah, so that's right when that was, like, my heyday, it was, like, 05 to 09. iPhone came out in 2006? I think it was 06.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I think it was over. iPhone 1 came out. I think it was 2006. Was it 6? Yeah, you know, so this was like, man, this is so, I feel like a dinosaur, you know what I mean? Yeah. Because, you know, now these kids are all on fucking, they got something called tele-6. telegram now and that's like the big marketplace for all the fraudsters because it's all
Starting point is 00:08:32 encrypted telegram this is when you say all of this is in my book bent which you can find available on amazon on amazon thank that's all i'm asking for that's not a lot thanks man a shameless plug for uh for bent something wrong with that shameless capitalist yeah forever the capitalist yeah yeah better than the communist um yeah dude he was saying brett was telling me that one of the guys that he worked really closely with, the young guy, he said that at one point, because he stepped down from Shadow Care, another guy took his place, the guy he really trusted, forget the fucking guy's name right now. Brett Johnson was Iceman.
Starting point is 00:09:09 That was his name on there? I didn't know that. Yeah, he was Ice Man, like the original, like, the Ice Man that everybody knew, like, you know what I mean? I thought, I thought Butler was, what was his name? Max Butler? I thought he called himself Iceman. Was it Max Butler or was it fucking, I'm getting my facts fucked up. I know I'm going to get crucified.
Starting point is 00:09:27 in the comment section. Yeah, I was gonna say, no, somebody was Ice Man. Wait, wait, no, Max Butler changed his name. Remember? He actually changed his name to something. Maybe it was maximum,
Starting point is 00:09:39 or, I don't know, fucking, I don't know. Anyways, he said that one of his guys that he worked really closely with. I read that book like three times in prison. I love that book. He said one of the guys he worked really closely with just went to an ATM one day wearing his hoodie. And it was like at a Publix ATM.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And he just sat there with his hoodie with a backpack full of blank credit cards. And he was just at the ATM. standing there for 45 minutes. Yeah. Just taking out money. And the cop, other, random cop car,
Starting point is 00:10:02 these guys were there getting lunch at Publix. And they were sitting there eating their lunch. Like, this guy's been here for 35, 40 minutes. Fucking lazy. Hey, buddy, what are you doing? Lazy. And that's how he got caught. And you got like a, like a,
Starting point is 00:10:11 I think close to a life sentence. Lazyness, man. Fucking complacency and laziness. You don't do that. You spread them out. You know, GPS to shit. Fucking figure out the ones who have the $100 bills and the high limits on that.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I was losing my shit when I was talking to him about how he was making his money. money because he was talking about his he did a lot of identity theft he was making money with tax return fraud he would spend all day filing 200 tax returns he would find a list all these people that would die there'd be a registry all the people that die know and if you don't register those people there he finds like he goes online and finds a list of hundreds of people social security numbers you can go and find it's the California death registry California is the only state that leaves the social security numbers all the rest of states don't oh I'm sorry I got it wrong it was before that it was before that it was the sexual offenders registry. I was going to say like, how could you do that with the death registry that you know that, they know that the people died? Right. No, no.
Starting point is 00:11:06 It was a, that was part of it. But before that, he got the sexual offenders registry where you could just go on a website and you could find it. And it was everything from name to social security number, sperm count, the whole deal. And I'm like, sperm cut. That's important. That's a very important. If Matt Cox would have been able to find this, you would, I mean, imagine if you would
Starting point is 00:11:24 even able to get a hold of that and wouldn't have to be like in the most, you usually have good fucking credit. You wouldn't have to be finding homeless people. Half of them got college education. Despite their sexual deviancy, they're usually fucking,
Starting point is 00:11:36 you know, pretty good with their money. You know what I always thought was, what was funny when I was doing Freedom Information Act on people? Like I would get stuff from the 80s or 90s, and you'd get a police report and they would actually have the social security number on it.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And they would take, so they would take like that white out, you know, the tape. And they would put like tape over. over it and send it to me. It's like you could just scratch it off and go, oh, there it is. Social Security numbers, 262, you know, and you read it off. Now it's all digital.
Starting point is 00:12:06 So now when they send it to you, you know, it's got a black strip over it. But back then they were like, oh, look, I better wipe that out and send it to them. What kind of idiot does that? And I mean, I've got probably four different people's socias that came to me like that through the mail in prison. Like, what are you doing? Like when they were handwritten. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:23 That's insane. But that's not as good as the most. You look really buff, man. Have you been working out? It's his diet. Yeah. What's your diet? You look super jacked.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Let's talk about man's diet for a second. That's an early morning gym. Listen, so up. He's so upset. Like I eat TV dinners and, you know, these guys get so upset. The lean cuisine. Matthew's one of those people that just doesn't allow himself. I love linguistics.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Matthew doesn't allow himself any pleasure in his life. That's not true. That's not true. None. I know a few people like that. That's not true. I had ice cream last night. Matt's like one of those people who just abstain from everything.
Starting point is 00:12:56 You know what I mean? Like those weird people who were just like Just like I'm going to have one Coke And I'm going to have a sip of this And that's going to be it Till I'd you know Till next week or the month or whatever No
Starting point is 00:13:07 It's not sure It's kind of true You go to the gym at like 5 a.m. Listen Matthew during the day Did you see my video? Yeah you sent me a video Nice right I saw the Batman video
Starting point is 00:13:15 So now they've got They put up little signs That he's all upset about it They put up little signs now in the gym Saying you can't video record in the gym I told them I hope they kick you guys out For fucking the shenanigans. What was the point of that?
Starting point is 00:13:28 What were you guys doing? It was a dare. We were sitting there one day in the morning. It's like 6 o'clock, 5.30, 6 o'clock in the morning. And we're working out. And I'm looking around. I go, everybody here looks so miserable. Yeah, it's 5 in the morning.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I know. And just like, well, because it's 5. It's like 5.36. And I was like, I know. I'm always happy and jumping around. I've had a couple cups of coffee. I'm like, you know, come on my turn. That's good.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You know, I'm tickling. You also spent 20 years in prison. Of course, I'm ecstatic. Yeah. Yeah. But so I ended up saying, I said, you know what would be funny? I said, what if we, I said, what if I walked in one day? Because, you know, a lot of the guys will walk in, and they'll be buff, and they'll wear, like, a superhero outfit.
Starting point is 00:14:05 It'll say, it'll have like a Batman or a Superman or they have like all the, it looks like this. But that doesn't mean they want you to come in dress as Batman. Doesn't matter. So I said, wouldn't it be cool? I said, you know what would be great? What if I came in? What if I came in with a Batman mask? And I said, what do you think they'd say?
Starting point is 00:14:21 And she started laughing. She goes, I don't know. And I said, I'll do it. And she goes, I'll do it too. I said, all right, order it. I said, let's do it. And she said, oh, I will. I said, okay, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Because I know, because Jess is, you know, super timid. And when we got home, she goes, okay, she's, what about this? When I was like, oh, shit, she's doing it. And then I thought, she'll never do it. She's never going in here. But it kept getting amped up. I was like, oh, I'm ready. I got my mask.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And she's like, oh, mine's going to be here tomorrow. Watch. And it got there, like two days later. It got there. And she goes, okay, when are we doing this? I was like, uh, Wednesday, you know, that way we're doing chest and it, you know, it looks better. And she's like, yeah, okay, okay. She's like, I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I'm like, me too. And then when we actually got in the car, put on the masks, I realized she's not chickening out. This is not good. It's going down. I was like, I'm semi embarrassed already. We haven't walked in the gym. So, you know, but it was a dare. I had to do it.
Starting point is 00:15:14 We both walked in. We videoed the whole time. We walked in. We worked out in the masks. Nobody said anything. Nobody said anything. Nope. And we walked right back out.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Because they probably thought you guys were fucking insane. You're going to pull out fucking oozes and start fucking gunning everybody down in there. He's probably right. Let me tell you something. You work out wearing a Batman mask. Every weight was light. My adrenaline was so spiked. My face was all sweating.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I was so embarrassed and everything. Went through the whole thing, but everything was light. Just feeling good like Batman. Yeah, I said, dude, I would have been so embarrassed. If I would have been there working out and you guys would have come in, I would have had to have left the gym. I would have just got in my car and went home. Like, I can't do this. It's not...
Starting point is 00:15:54 Who is this fucking guy? What in the fuck is going on here? Where am I? I was proud of Jess for doing it. And I never thought she'd do it. I was like, this is good. So do you go to the gym at 5 a.m. every morning? No, I mean, usually five or six.
Starting point is 00:16:07 We get there about six. Do you do anything but arms? That's not fine. I do everything. I do chest, shoulders, dries, legs, back. I do everything. Do you like every day? Yeah, I do legs.
Starting point is 00:16:20 But you don't go every day? We go every day but Sunday Okay Every day but Sunday Damn that's a heavy routine man Yeah that is And all he eats during the day is scoops of peanut butter and popsicles I eat scoops of peanut butter too
Starting point is 00:16:33 That's it That's not true I have a link I have two linguines And he's got a jar of pickled asparagus That he munches on that I ate that I kill that I finished that You eat pickled asparagus
Starting point is 00:16:42 It's so good Oh I like pickled They're so good Ugh That sounds nasty Have you you haven't even tried it No but it sounds gross It's amazing
Starting point is 00:16:50 It's amazing It's amazing Yeah. Have you ever seen a rock hopper penguin? I don't know. It's so random. I don't know what that is. Austin,
Starting point is 00:17:02 Google the rock hopper penguin. Oh, that's funny. You got to see this, bro. This is the funniest bird I've ever seen in my life. What were you going to ask me? You said, oh, wait, let's wait till the podcast. You were going to ask me something,
Starting point is 00:17:13 and then you go, oh, wait, let me wait until the podcast. Look at this fucking penguin. I'm in a big picture. I've seen those. Look at his red fucking devil eyes. Did you know that thing existed? I've seen those before. Did you know it was called?
Starting point is 00:17:31 Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I've seen it from that. I didn't know the name of it. It's in that, yeah, it's in that animated film. But let's, if you, I mean, to be honest, he's cooler looking than a regular penguin. He's got style. He's insane looking.
Starting point is 00:17:43 There's almost half a million of them. It's endangered. Breeds on islands spends the rest of the time at sea. But where can you find them? South Atlantic I want to get one Indian Ocean I want to get a pet
Starting point is 00:17:57 Rockhopper This is exactly why they're They're in danger Yeah People went out and they capture And bring them home They die a week later Because you don't know
Starting point is 00:18:03 How to take care of them That thing looks like it would Fuck you up You put them on a Pixar movie Yeah You know where they are Austin Can you find where they are? For Austin
Starting point is 00:18:15 South Atlantic It says it right there Yeah South Atlantic Yes Indian Oceans Okay Oh I bet you're there
Starting point is 00:18:24 Are there Are there penguins in South Africa, Austin? Well, look at the map. It's right there. It says South Africa. Penguins are usually generally in colder climates. Yeah, South Africa gets pretty damn cold. Really?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Yeah. But is it frozen all year? Not frozen all year, no. But the penguins could, you know, I don't know. How did this come up? I just thought, it just popped in my head. You asked me what I was going to say before we started the podcast. Yeah, you went to say something, and I go, what?
Starting point is 00:18:50 And you go, you know what? Let's wait to the podcast. I went, okay. I don't remember. it's not a bit important yeah it wasn't important it was probably a comment on your v neck or your giant arms yeah have giant arms yeah have you seen that sponge pop episode where he walks around with the mateable arms yeah that's what you remind me to spong ball he goes to the beach and shit dude remember hey the group chat we got our own little like fraud we got to add you to the group chat
Starting point is 00:19:21 yeah i was gonna mention when i got out of this yeah i'd Boziag knows about all the crazy conspiracies. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I thought you were meant. Like every two days I get something about how to extend your legs or special shoes. They send me stuff for special shoes that add two and a half inches. And it's like, I typically I'm just, I'm like, ha ha.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And then like two days later it'll say. So it would be something else about. It's just crazy shit, man. It's fucking fascinating. There's this one doctor on Instagram. He specializes in limb extensions. Right. How many, how many successful surgeries?
Starting point is 00:19:53 I don't know. Austin, you know his name? What would an unsuccessful one be? You get shorter. They amputate the way. You got shorter. No, bro, this is a common procedure? Is this really him? You can get it.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Oh, yeah, click the top link. What do they add like an inch or two? Bone link. No, they can add several inches. Stop. Hit that bullshit at the bottom. You think I haven't looked into this? He's already got an appointment book.
Starting point is 00:20:16 I mean, that's extreme. He's got it on his vision board. Yeah, yeah. Are you to look at the first thing. It says, are you tired of being short? Do you feel self-conscious about your height? Oh, they know where to hit you. To the point where your happiness is being compromised?
Starting point is 00:20:37 Listen, if you've made it this far, they don't need to do much selling. Yeah, yeah, you've already looked it up. Click on that first video. What you need to do. How much? How much? And what's the recovery time? Recovery time.
Starting point is 00:20:48 What I looked into it was outrageous. How much could this be? What I looked into it, it was outrageous. A couple hundred thousand dollars. You were basically to be immobile for like six to eight weeks. Unless it's done in like South America somewhere. They're fucking with your femurs and shit, right?
Starting point is 00:21:00 That's like the bunyan surgery too, though. The bunions, your grandma got bunions. Mm-hmm. All right. Turn the volume up. Let's see what these guys are. I tear you apart. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Is there any way you can pipe it through the audio? Do this surgery is the consultation. And that's when we meet together. Matt, I got a great idea for a video. It's no one of a bit. And that's a good time to ask any additional questions. That guy was like 80. Yeah, you see that guy?
Starting point is 00:21:37 I was about to say that. What the fuck? That guy's sitting there. That guy, that bothers me because that guy looked tall. So the consultation involves, you know, asking a few questions, and then I would do a physical exam because I really need to know how. Come on, man. It's too late to be getting taller. Oh, Papito wants to go in there and fucking.
Starting point is 00:22:00 All your muscles and joints get a little bit tight. Oh, my God. Prior to your surgery. If you don't have very good flexibility, start working on it. Now, after the physical exam, then I have you take x-rays so that I could measure your bones and make sure that there's no issues that are going to take place with the insertion of the nail. Oh, my God. Your bone can't be too curved.
Starting point is 00:22:25 It cannot have any kind of defects. So these are the things that I look for, and at the same time, I make the customer X. Oh, my God. measurements for the nails that you're going to need. After that, we'll talk about finances regarding the surgery. And then if you're ready at that time, and I see that it's a good fit for you, then we could schedule out a surgery date for you.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Really? What are you talking about? They're signing up for the procedure. They tear you apart in there. They are. That is a butcher. Sometimes you have to do it. They just got to be a brutal fucking surgery.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Oh, yeah. I do understand that people are concerned regarding a pandemic, and we've been doing surgeries during this whole, Okay, you can shut her down. Oh, wait. Yeah, let's see the before and after. A guy with three inches. Five, six, to five, nine.
Starting point is 00:23:09 How would you like that, Matt? Do you think they could do this for your fucking dick? Do you think you're going to make your cock three inches longer? I hear that they have a surgery too. I heard that surgery is extremely fucking, like, dangerous. Like, people die all the time getting that fucking surgery done. The rate of people that die getting the fucking penis extension surgery is... All right, you can turn it off, Austin.
Starting point is 00:23:28 It's wild. Really? Yeah, I read that fact somewhere. I wonder why. I have no idea. Does it some shit you shouldn't be fucking with? Austin, can you pull up some before and afters on here?
Starting point is 00:23:39 I'm going to get penis surgery. That's like so enlargement. It just sounds dangerous. The height thing, not the penis thing. What's more absurd do you think? Penis enlargement or limb lengthening? Absurd. I mean, being someone who needs both,
Starting point is 00:23:55 it's a toss-up, right? I admire your honesty. No. Which one's more absurd? Oh, bro, I would never I would never fuck with my shirt. To be honest. Like, I could understand a lot of people probably want to
Starting point is 00:24:11 extend their penis size. That's a kind of not very great photo. To get your limbs extended sounds insane. She got taller. What the hell if she'd do? Oh, look at that. Man. Bro, all these guys, this is outrageous.
Starting point is 00:24:23 These aren't subtle height. Yeah, these are big, big height differences. I want to see, like, their legs with their legs. Yeah, let's see the fucking star. I don't wear jeans. I don't want to see. His shit looks. tore up.
Starting point is 00:24:36 God damn. Wow. What are they extending? Like the lower part? The femur. I mean, you're, your skin stretches. Find some more.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Find some more good photos, Austin. This doesn't do it. Oh my God. Look at this guy. Nine months later, the little tiny. He looks like a little. He looks like a little person. No, the other one.
Starting point is 00:24:53 That's wild. It seems like. The one guy. Look. Look at where it says nine months later. Look how tiny. Fucking leg. That's got to be clickbait.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Oh, my God. That's the same picture. They only did one. Oh, you can only do one leg at a time. Because it takes the recovery time. Oh, my God. So then what happens? You gotta wait for it to heal, then they do the other leg.
Starting point is 00:25:12 There's got to be a gimp till you're all hobbling around for fucking six months. Yeah, it's just like the bunyan surgery, bro. Wild. Bunyan surgery. Yeah, people got fucked up feet where they have like a can't. You've seen like a hammer toe. I got one where like the side of it comes out. Always on gangster lean?
Starting point is 00:25:27 No, just Google. Super lean. Find it, Austin. Show me a picture. Type in bunion. This is fucking nasty. some of them are really gross he said type in bunyan
Starting point is 00:25:38 B you in Iowa and people get their foot like surgery on their foot just to straighten a bone in their foot and they're off their feet his grandma got it their feet and it happens like women more
Starting point is 00:25:50 than it does men Oh yeah That's what Danny's foot looks like Oh Pikachu Oh man look at that one Look at the yellow one Oh yeah oh yeah See that?
Starting point is 00:25:59 I mean Oh that's bad Very graphic That's not as bad as limb lengthening. What? You think that's worse than limb lengthening? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:10 I have Flintstone feet. I have little tiny, fat little Flintstone feet. Google LeBron James foot. Have you seen LeBron James foot? He's got that same foot. A lot of athletes have super bunions too. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:21 They're smashing their feet all the time. LeBron's a fucking brush. Yeah, LeBron's got some of the grossest looking feet I've ever seen him. Antonio Brown, who's seen his feet. A lot of athletes. After all the frostbite. After all the frostbite. Both bite.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Oh, what? What is that? It's LeBron's foot. Go to that one below it, bottom right. What? Are you serious? Below that. Yeah, that's his foot, man.
Starting point is 00:26:46 It's all fricked up. That's what my foot looks like, basically, except half the size and white. Same color. What is going on? Yeah, bro. This is taking a dangerous turn. Yeah. Yeah, this is all bad, bro.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I don't know. Yeah, bro. Can we, let's talk about something else. Freaking me out a little bit. Yeah, so I don't have any of those problems. No, with my feet, no. You just got crazy amounts of tattoos. And that's not necessarily a problem.
Starting point is 00:27:14 It's kind of similar. No, it's not a problem. It's just like Matt getting his hairline fixed. That's not really a problem. It's just something he wanted to do. Yeah, it's true. It's art. It's art.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Yeah. It's something. It's fine art. What the fuck are these paintings behind you, Matt? I did those. These are, these are. Oh, you did these? I did these, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Oh, shit. I didn't even know you painted. Yeah, I do paint. I'm a very, I'm an amateur painter. I'm nothing, not seasoned. Seasoned. Season, not season like Matt. Yeah, you know, I'm, I'm an artist.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I've been tattooing for like 15 years and, um, extremely proficient with Photoshop and other, uh, you know, document, or I'm sorry, photo editing software. Um, but yeah, these are mine. I did paint these. I brought them here to maybe try and hawk today. We're going to try to lock them. Where can be in? What?
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yeah, so if you had, like, just reach out to me on Instagram and we can get it worked out. What, what's his name? It's Nipsey Hustle. Nipsey Hustle. Yeah. He painted Nipsey Hustle and then told me the story about him. RIPP Nip. Matt didn't know who Nipsey Hustle was.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I didn't know who he was. Not surprised. I like Scrooge McDuck with the Aces States. Jeff walked in and asked me about it. Yeah. The wallpaper. Yeah, you know. Wallpaper behind that is actually, I had a company make prop money.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Uh-huh. It's him. With me on the $100 bill. No way. Yeah. So it's my face on the $100 bill. You should have brought one. I was going to bring a stack of a man.
Starting point is 00:28:38 You should make business cards that are like Amex cards with your face. Oh, that would be dope. Yeah, that's a good idea. That is a good idea. Make it happen. How much are those paying? What are you going to sell those for? Nipsey is like 500.
Starting point is 00:28:52 He's 33 by 48, acrylic on canvas. And he's all sealed up. We sealed them up with... I've charged like a grand. A grand. 500 plus shipping. It's all good in the hood. And then the smaller ones is like 150 plus shipping. Yeah, so I think it's like $20 to ship them anywhere in the United States.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Is Donald Duck snort and Coke? Yeah, so that's actually I took silver and gold. And it was like, I did like a silver and gold, you know, capitalism meets, pop art meets, yeah. But, you know, I can hammer those out all day off. Flying off the painting. Yeah, I know, I thought that too. I was like, well, you know, maybe he's sniffing cocaine off the...
Starting point is 00:29:36 That works. He looks happy. Yeah, but, yeah, so that's what I'm doing now. You know, I just want to paint and do YouTube. You know, I haven't... I'm a Florida Cracker, and, you know, I had to come back home. You know, I haven't really found a tattoo shop to really get into yet. I haven't even really considered... I'd be like, you know, I want a tattoo, but it's like...
Starting point is 00:29:59 I just want to paint and do you. YouTube. When's the last time we did a tattoo? It's been a few weeks. I've been here like a few weeks, like two or three weeks. Could you do tattoos live on the podcast? Hell yeah, we can. Really? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Damn, we should do one. We should definitely do that. Hell yeah. Yeah, we can bring it in, set the cameras up. You ready to get concrete tattooed out? That would be dope. I don't know about that. We should reach out to somebody to have come in.
Starting point is 00:30:22 And we'll have them come in and I'll tattoo the concrete podcast logo on them. Fuck, yeah. Wanted like a super fan or something like that. We'll do it live on the air. We'll do it live. A super vats good. Yeah. That's good.
Starting point is 00:30:33 You could throw, yeah. We could do a live one where people like, people like the doctor. You could do like a lottery. Yeah, yeah. People could like, you know how you can like make donations on YouTube live? Yeah. We could do that and then just like bring Matt and we could tattoo Matt and people pay for tattoos. I've never had a tattoo.
Starting point is 00:30:48 If someone paid. Would you get one? If the doctor paid you five grand. The doctor? Five grand for something. I trust the doctor. Like if Danny said, I'll pay you five grand. I'd be like, no.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I'm saying, what is the doctor? What if somebody legitimately was going to pay me five? What do I have to get? And where? I can't believe I'm talking about this. They have to say something. They say whatever. Like, they can.
Starting point is 00:31:09 No. I get whatever. I want to know where and what. You know, what's a good example? What could it be? What if somebody said? Juste's a name on you.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Matt's not getting a tattoo. What if somebody said tattooed Jess's name on your ass on the podcast? Um, why does it have to be embarrassing? On your ass. On a silly place. Speaking of my tattoos. Nobody's going to see it. Do you, do you, do you remember Marty Ray?
Starting point is 00:31:30 Did you have Marty Ray on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He does the Marty Ray Project. Yeah. He had me on his podcast, and I said on his podcast that if somebody wanted to pay $5,000, I made him $10,000 that I would get Marty Ray's and his partner's portraits tattooed on my ass cheeks. Full color. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And they thought I was joking. They thought it was a joke, but I was fucking dead-ass serious. So he didn't really promote it or anything like that. but we can still make that happen. Hell yeah. We can make it happen. Yeah, Marty Ray. Matt, what else somebody said they wanted the twin towers tattooed on your ass?
Starting point is 00:32:08 No. The twin towers. No. I don't want to do that. How much would it have to be? Matt's going to get... It has to be a lot. How much is a lot?
Starting point is 00:32:18 I mean, at this point in my life, a lot is a lot less than it used to be. What? $2,500? $2,500? $2,500? What? Dollars? No. No.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Five grand? No. I was thinking 50 or 100 grand. Whoa. This guy's got expensive taste. I'd do it for fucking $5 grand. There you go. If anybody's listening, $5,000.
Starting point is 00:32:38 He'll bozeackle tattoo. I'll get the twin towers on my ass. I don't want to get anything tattooed on me. I'm not a tattoo guy. Yeah. You know, Matt's going to get a tramp stamp. It's going to say shark in the housing pool. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:32:55 That's good. That's good. All right. So what is this? What are we? Are we done yet? That's fucking good. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Get the Coleman logo. Oh, man. Property of FBOP. Get my reg number. Would you do that? Would you get a portrait of the emperor? Oh. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Yeah, that is good. Where? Listen, lower. Lower back? Lower back. We're bad at the tramps stamp stamp? No. It has to be the emperor's choice.
Starting point is 00:33:32 No. What about like your cat on your cat? How did I get to be the butt of this fucking podcast? Because everyone wants to see Matt Cox get a tattoo. Do you have any tattoos? Yeah. What? I got a good year blimp.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Where? No, you don't. Do you really? Yeah. It's so random. Yeah. Why? Listen, this dude.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Because our friend, our friend Luke, his wife was, was a tattoo. She was a tattoo. A practice. She was doing an apprentice to tattoo. Yeah. So you have to do a certain amount of free tattoos before you can start charging. And so we offered, me and him both offered to be like a free tattoo.
Starting point is 00:34:03 You pick the good year. Yeah, it's an inside joke that we have from high school. We just called Danny Blimphead because his head's real big. Yeah. I got a big guy. And it's stuck around for a long time. So like, hey, get a blimp, a good year blimp tattooed on your leg. I was like, okay, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:34:17 What did you get? I got a Humpty Dumpty on my thigh. Giant, big ass fucking egg. Shiant. Yeah, this guy came in a few months. ago. I was just working at a tattoo shop in Indianapolis. I was in Indiana. I don't know if you know that. I was in
Starting point is 00:34:32 fucking Indiana for like six months before I came here. For what? I got swindled into coming out there, man. I was living in Phoenix. Swindled. And yeah, I got swindled for sure. And this dude reached out to me on Instagram and asked me if I wanted to come to Sturgis, South Dakota and tattoo
Starting point is 00:34:48 during bike week for like five days. And I'd never been to Sturge's. I'd never done Sturge's. I was like, fuck, eh, and I get the tattoo. So I went up to Sturgis. I tattooed for like five days or six days or whatever it was. And then he asked me if I wanted to do a guest spot at his shop in this small town, just outside of Indianapolis, Indiana. So I was like, yeah, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:35:11 You know what I mean? Like it's summertime. And I was like, figure I'd go out there and make a couple more $1,000. And so I go out there. And I just got super comfortable. He had like a cool shop. I thought it was cool. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:22 And like he gave me like my own big booth and everything and like kind of like talk me and it's like working full time at the shop. And it's like, and at that time, it's like, I was living in Phoenix and I really wasn't doing that much tattooing.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Like, I was, but it wasn't, like, I wasn't busy. You know what I mean? And then like, but Indiana, wherever,
Starting point is 00:35:37 like, for whatever reason, he just had a really busy shop. So I literally show up and tattoo for 12 hours a day, seven days a week if I wanted to. Really? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:45 it's that, it was that busy. You know, and that's all I've ever wanted. I just want to tattoo at that point, you know, because I didn't, what was the most fucked up tattoo you did
Starting point is 00:35:51 when you were at Sturgis. Oh, um... I bet you there were some fucking characters coming out. Oh, yeah, there was, but it was like,
Starting point is 00:35:58 I just did a lot of Harley badges, like the, like the, like, what do they call it, the badge and shield and badge? Yeah, bar and shield or whatever it is. The Harley logo.
Starting point is 00:36:04 It's the bar and shield. I did so many of those, fucking, I had doing husbands and wife with each other's names in them and fucking, so many of those. Just a lot of weird biker tattoos.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I wonder what the most popular tattoo in the world is. Like, what tattooing more people have? Depends on who you are. I don't know. Harley would probably be up there. Butterflies and fucking hearts.
Starting point is 00:36:24 I've done probably more of those in my entire career than I have anything else. Butterflies and hearts. Hearts and butterflies, infinity symbols, you know, all the little Pinterest fucking bullshit. Those teenage girls are not the teenage girls, but you know, the young girls come in and get. Yeah, I've done a lot of those. I think the most, I wouldn't say fucked up tattoo I did, but the most wild tattoo I've ever done was probably when... So I was working at this tattoo shop in Miami. It was a 24-hour shop.
Starting point is 00:36:50 and if you guys know anything about like 24 hour tattoo shops they're always pretty sketch you know what i mean like they're always in a sketchy part of the fucking of town and they're open 24 hours and you got all kinds of drunks and transients coming in at like 3 o'clock in the morning and all kinds of wild shit yeah and so this this i'm working there it's literally like 233 o'clock in the morning it's me uh i'm working there with a dude named gus and gus is fucking tattoo and he's working on somebody and i'm sitting at the front counter and in strolls what I could only
Starting point is 00:37:18 describe as a fucking vampire okay this chick was a fucking vampire it was like 233 o'clock in the morning she strolls in Gothic completely head to toe gothed out I mean like she just went to hot topic and bought every fucking
Starting point is 00:37:34 you know I'm sure but it wasn't like cheap hot topic shit like she was like a seasoned you can tell it wasn't like the dollar store goth person you know what I mean like she for shit was legitimate It was a real deal. She was the real deal. And she comes in and, you know, just like I'm talking to you now,
Starting point is 00:37:51 we're having a conversation that says, yeah, you know, whatever, what do you want to do? She comes in, she says, I want to get a spider web tattooed on the inside of my asshole. Without even flinching, I said, come on back. Let's do it. Hell yeah. Yeah, and she came. And then I was like, well, you know, I started showing her pictures of, you know, like, what style do you want? fucking, you know, how are we going to knock, how are we going to do this thing?
Starting point is 00:38:15 Just like a regular client. And then when it came time to do the tattoo, I'm like, okay, well, I'm going to have to, you're going to have to, like, spread your cheeks for me and hold them. Because I was like, I don't have anybody else here to help me, you know what I mean, hold your cheeks open while I do this. So you did this? Yeah, she got down on her, on her hands, on the table and put her face in the pillow, and she spread her ass cheeks, and I tattooed a pretty fucking sick spiderweb.
Starting point is 00:38:40 How deep into her asshole did you go? I went right up to the, fucking brown eye. Really? Yeah, I ran. Imagine you spread her cheeks and she's fucking hemorrhoids coming out and you're like, got a fucking tattoo her fucking hemorrhoited asshole.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Well, no, yeah, it was apparent, you know, that she gets her clown punched on a regular, you know, you can always tell. What made that apparent?
Starting point is 00:38:59 It was just like a gaping hole? Well, dude, you can tell when somebody fucking, they do a lot of anal. I don't know how many assholes you've seen in your lifetime, but I've seen my fair share. Yeah. Okay,
Starting point is 00:39:08 you can always tell, because they kind of like come out a little bit, like fucking, what do they call that? There's a name for that. It's called fucking whatever. Prolapse or whatever? Like. I don't.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Like an Audi asshole? Yes. That's called a hemorrhoid. No, that's called a prolapsed fucking colon. All right. Austin, do you want to give it a goob there, Austin. Do your job. I'm not sure we need images of that.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I want us who it looks like. Google image that. Prolapsed colon. But yeah, you know, so you can always tell. But yeah, I just ran my line straight from the fucking. Look at it. Did you have to, like, wash her asshole? first?
Starting point is 00:39:43 No. There was no poop in there? No, there was no poop particles or she was, it was pretty, you know, there was devoid of any hair or fucking, you know, pimples or anything like that. She didn't fart once. There was nothing obstructing, you know, my... How long did it take? About 45 minutes.
Starting point is 00:39:59 He didn't let Danny phase in at all. He just keeps going. No, it's about 45 minutes. 45 minutes staring at her asshole. And I told her, I said, you know, you just might get infected. I was like, so you can't come back here and, you know what I mean? Like, complaining if it gets infected. Yeah, dude. Her asshole can.
Starting point is 00:40:12 get fucking MRSA or something. Yeah, so, you know, poop particles and an open wound definitely... She just didn't give a fuck. It's not the way to go. But, dude, this chick had, like, body modifications. She had, like, these implants in her forehead that fucking were, like, fucking horns.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Dude, the chick was on the level. Yeah. She was on the level. This wasn't out of the norm for her. Yeah. And she had these platform boots on, so she was, like, fucking... You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:34 Came in the door, and she was just as tall as the fucking door or the fucking... Oh, yeah, she was sick. Somebody's daughter, dude. That's some guy's little daughter. Listen, there's, listen, imagine a chick like that. Somebody did a number on her. At one point in her life, she was a little five-year-old toddler,
Starting point is 00:40:49 like running around the playground with Daddy. And now she's getting her fucking... Dude, imagine a chick... Prowling around, fucking Miami in the fucking the middle of the night. You fucking bump into her at, like, a gas station or something. You know what I mean? Going down to get some swishers and fucking run into her at the fucking... How bad does that have to hurt you think?
Starting point is 00:41:06 It had to... Yeah, I mean, that's got to be pretty intense, dude. Yeah, the inside of the fucking arseholes got to be pretty... intense for sure for sure yeah yeah yeah but what was she doing when you were doing it was she like flinching really hard was she reading a book took it like a champ was she fucked up
Starting point is 00:41:22 was she on was she taking like um watching one of your what kind of drugs would you take it she kind of seemed like she was on downers maybe you had to be right or that maybe was just her personality you think she was on the blue boys I don't know man who knows with that chick listen I tattooed a dude on the rock she's on rocks I tattooed a dude in Indianapolis and this motherfucker came in all banged up
Starting point is 00:41:42 I don't know what he was on heroin or fucking or oxycodone or something. I tattooed his face and he slept completely through it. I tattooed on both sides. I mean, the dude was covered it. He had tattoos all over his fucking face. You know the story of Gucci Man when he got his ice cream tattooed in his face. He got that the day he got out of fucking the mental institution. Yeah, he was just, I think he slept.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I think they interviewed his tattoo artist and his tattoo artist and he slept through the whole thing. Oh, he's on meds for sure. Oh, yeah. He was heavy. If he was coming straight out of the psych ward, he was fucking heavily medicated. Oh, really? Yeah, because the day he got released from the psych ward, he got, the fucking ice cream cone on his face.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Yeah, no, I tattooed a big money bag in this dude's fucking face, and he fucking... He sent me a picture of when he was doing it. I posted it to my Instagram. Of the guy. Like, boom, he said this guy, I'm tattooing this guy, he's asleep right now. And then I said, I've shied to... Yeah, with his mouth open. And I had the stencil on his face. Yeah, the dude was all
Starting point is 00:42:30 banged up on something. It was fucking hilarious. I've never tattooed anybody's face and they fucking snored through it. That was a first for me. I've been tattooing a long time. Yeah. Yeah, it was wild. My leg didn't really hurt that bad. The top of my thigh. It wasn't really as bad as I thought it would be.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Yeah. I don't fucking hurt. The belly dude for me was probably the worst. Really? Yeah, it was the fucking worst, man. It's the worst pain of ever experience in my life. Yeah. Out of everything I have.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Have you ever tattooed someone's dick? I've never done a penis. I just, that's just I refuse. You know, that's where I draw the line. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's where I draw the line. I don't know. It's probably more sanitary than a girl's asshole.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I mean, unless it was like a buddy or something like that. I don't know. Yeah. No. Look at me, bro. Matt, let's get your fucking, let's get your slong tattooed. I think, listen, we're going to have to start having, like, a list of things we can't topic. We cannot discuss.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Yeah. You know, but I think for the right price. Does it make you uncomfortable? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Matt's afraid that he might turn gay. Or the, what was the other one that made me feel uncomfortable?
Starting point is 00:43:34 Other than the, oh, the penis extension, the legs thing, yeah. You're hitting on all the buttons. We're hitting them all. What's that famous quote? What's that, what's that quote about, I forget who had that quote, but he said something about homophote or people who hate gays.
Starting point is 00:43:51 The only people who hate gays are idiots and people who are afraid that there might be gay. Dumb people and then people who are afraid that they might be gay. That's probably true. Those are the kind of people that hate gays. Or that are secretly gay themselves.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Right, that's what I mean. Yeah, same thing. And are just mad at the world. Right. Yeah. Those are homophobes. Yeah, I have a cousin. that I grew up with my whole life
Starting point is 00:44:13 and he would always, every few years he would just like wildly change like his whole like who he was like so okay first he started out back in the day like when we were kids he was a punk rocker he wore the fucking the wristbands he had the mohawk he was in a punk rock band
Starting point is 00:44:29 played guitar the whole night and then he became like we got a little bit older in the middle school he became like a skateboarder like a skater and that became and so every time he changed like what he did with his life that became his whole persona. So then he went from being a punk rocker to like a skater. He was like hardcore fucking skateboarder, you know, a skater,
Starting point is 00:44:48 which is the usual transition because, you know, punk rock because they skateboard and, you know, they grow out of the fucking punk rock shit and they get into skating, which is, that's the normal transition. Then he went into hip hop and he was going to be like a rapper. He was at the, listen, when he goes in, he fucking goes all the way in. Like he would go to the studio every day. He was doing shows. Like not, he didn't have like a fucking record contract selling out, but he was doing
Starting point is 00:45:10 like little like venues like around town and shit you know what i mean like open like they like they book fucking he had some little dude that was going and booking him shows i think he opened up for three six mafia uh one time really that's a crazy story i hit dj paul with a fucking beer that night no yeah yeah because this stupid bitch i was with fucking runs up on stage one second keep on keep on this stupid bitch i'm with runs up on stage because at the end of every show like dj paul and like juicy j and shit they come out and they're like they start you know they do crowd work and he was and juicy jay came out and he was like i'll him the first bitch who gets up on stage and gets cornhole
Starting point is 00:45:43 $1,000. And who do you think the first cunt fucking run to run up on stage was? The bitch I'm with my girlfriend at the time. I'm like, this fucking stupid dirty whore. And, you know, of course, she's got the fake titty. So she gets up there and immediately just takes off her shirt. Pulls the tities out. We're in a packed fucking venue with like 5,000 people with 1,000 people here.
Starting point is 00:46:04 It's fucking insane. So she pulls up, she goes up on stage. First thing she does takes off her shirt. Her fucking tities are out. and I'm so fucking pissed I just whizz my beer up at her You know, I'm standing in the crowd I fucking whiz my beer up there
Starting point is 00:46:15 Trying to hit her with it I hit DJ Paul on accident with my beer So then the guy standing next to me I grab here's beer out of his hand And I fucking whiz that one up there And that one fucking hit security Then all of a sudden all the lights come on They're like whoa whoa whoa
Starting point is 00:46:27 I just do an about face And I immediately just walk fucking right out of the club Yeah dumb cunt And then I got her purse in my car I took it out and I dumped it out In the fucking parking lot like this The whole fucking thing fucking kicked it like a soccer ball
Starting point is 00:46:39 that bitch. Anyway, what was I talking about? How did this start with your cousin who always changed everything? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, let's get back to that. I got off on a fucking, I had to tell a side story. Right, so every couple years, my cousin, like, changes who he is, and he makes that his whole persona.
Starting point is 00:46:54 So after the hip-hop shit kind of, like, fizzled out, he became, like, this hardcore, right-wing, Republican, fucking anti-government. You know, they're going to fucking confiscate your guns. He was wearing all fatigued. He was posting on Facebook every day, getting kicked off. You know, like, he thought he was into, like, some kind of militia. And then he turned into a transgender. Oh.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Now he's no longer James. He's Jamie. No way. I swear to fucking God. He's a trans fucking gender now. He's covered all the bases. This is a good segue to the transgender that got the two other feet, the two female. Prison.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Yeah. Two female prisoners pregnant. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'll send you a link. I'll send you a screenshot of that awesome. Yeah, but now he's, and he shows up at all the family functions as Jamie, but then as the night goes on, he like literally like starts changing his clothes and changing his voice and shit. And then by the end of the night he's fucking Jamie or whatever, the girl. And I'm like, listen, this motherfucker isn't a transgender.
Starting point is 00:48:00 He's mentally ill is what it is. Right, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, you don't fucking do all of these things throughout your whole entire life and now all of a sudden you're a transgender. Like, that's fucking insanity. Not that I don't have anything against transgender I don't go fuck, do what you do What is that though?
Starting point is 00:48:14 Like what is that about someone who wants to change their identity? Yeah, it's crazy It's something It's some kind of dysfunction he has, man, yeah You know, but you know, whatever If you want to live his life as a woman now That's, you know, do, do what you do But, you know, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:48:29 Yeah, that's fucking crazy And listen, my other cousin called me and told me that I'm like, no fucking way He's like, dude, I swear to God He's like, and then he shot me a link And I guess he's on porn hub riding a fucking 12 inch Dildo. Oh, man. What?
Starting point is 00:48:42 Yeah, dude. Yeah, fucking, I didn't watch it. I didn't click on the link, but fucking... Imagine if he was on Pornhub, riding a 12-inch Jildo wearing a Trump hat and the fatigues. Oh, dude. Yeah. How confusing with that fucking shit. So now he's like a transgender porn star and like the whole thing is just fucking out of control.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Dude, I'm telling you, my family's fucked up. Dude, that is... We need to get him on here. Yeah, right. Better hurry before he switches to something else. Yeah. Austin put that back up on the screen. So what happened with the person in jail, the transgender?
Starting point is 00:49:21 So a guy, a transgender woman, a guy who's now a woman. Transition to female. But has not, but has, no. Yes, it was a man that is now saying he identifies as a female, but hasn't had the surgery, just said, hey, I'm a woman. They said, oh, well, then you need to go to the woman's prison. He said, yes, I do. There's no way they allow that. Oh, if you have a dick, they'll let you go to the nursing. You got two women pregnant.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Some fucking liberal judge or whatever up there in New Jersey, they passed all these laws now. I listened to a whole two of a five-men. They don't have fucking DeSanto. No. I listened to a five-minute thing. DeSanto for president. DeSanto. You like DeSanto for president? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you'd be pretty good. You'd be awesome. And there was making jokes. They said, well, they don't, they don't, don't want to take them away. We need them down there. We don't need to want to take him away from Florida. And they're like, fucking Trump could be the goddamn governor of Florida. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:15 He would win. Oh, yeah. It's the greatest, it's the greatest state in the country. Yeah, yeah. Trump don't want to be the fucking governor. I don't think Trump's going to be the president again either. I don't think he'll do it. You don't think so? You don't think he's going to run in 2024? I don't know. Look at this guy. He swindled the whole system for sure. He's looking at the camera. He's like, I can't believe they let me fucking do this. Can you fucking believe they let me in here? I love the state of New Jersey So what happened?
Starting point is 00:50:40 Scroll down a little bit in here Yeah so it's an all women's prison And then out of nowhere Two of the inmates Just show up pregnant I don't care I think they actually read it
Starting point is 00:50:53 If you on one of these He impregnated two of the female inmates Two But don't don't call him a man It says it says inmates Yeah Two female inmates That is fucking wild
Starting point is 00:51:08 He's a guy He's a guy He's in That is fucking wild that they would let him in there. Yeah, it's pretty wild, man. Like, at the end of the day, dude. In New Jersey? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Yeah. Is that the only state that allows that? There's quite a few. I'm sure there's quite a few that they're doing it. I'm sure there's more than one. I mean, it's no different than all those transgender's going into women's sports and just fucking, like, shattering records and shit. Why the fuck wouldn't?
Starting point is 00:51:35 Are they really shattering records? Women's records? Yeah, they're women. Because, I think. I think what the argument is, when it really boils down to, when the Supreme Court sets these fucking precedences for, like, you know, equal fucking rights for, you know, everybody. And you got, they had, you know, the Supreme Court saying that now you have to recognize
Starting point is 00:51:54 whatever gender I identify with now that has to be recognized, not only, you know, fucking person to person, but it has to be recognized now, like, Supreme Court says so. So now the argument is, I'm, you know, if the Supreme Court says, I'm a woman, why am I in a men's prison? You know what I mean? So then, so there's like a catch-22 and everybody's like, oh my God, I don't know what to do and nobody wants to fucking, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:17 fight it because they're up for re-election, you know what I mean? They don't want to be... If you're a security guard in there, say you're some woke security guard in the prison or whatever, and you support it, and you walk by and you see, you know, you're all about, you know, transgender rights, change, everything is... This is the right thing you do.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Inmates aren't supposed to be... They're not against the rules regardless. Yeah. Whether it's two men or two women. Yeah. So you think you're security guard and you're walking by. That's a naughty naughty. And you see your correctional officers.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Correctional officer walking by and you see some guy just fucking banging down some chick. They would immediately put the hose on them. Yeah. First you're going to separate them. And then they both go to the shoe. And then they both get ridden up for whatever, having sex. There was a time when they used to write an incident report. And then they would mail it home to your family.
Starting point is 00:53:04 But they stopped doing that. Yeah, that was like 20 years ago. And they would mail it home. So your wife would know two men, like your husband is having sex with another man. Oh, wow. And then they stopped doing that. Wow. Imagine this guy's family gets the letter.
Starting point is 00:53:18 They're like, God damn, Demetrius, look what he's up to now. His father's probably proud. He's smart man. You game the system. Yeah. Everybody says their time different. Yeah. Everybody says their time different.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I think more men should compete in women's sports, though. I like it. We need to show them who's, you know, we need to show them that where they're, the dominant gender. Yeah, it's funny, man. It's just, I don't know. The whole thing's just bananas to me, to be honest with you. Leah Thomas, that was her name, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Has anyone ever interviewed her about it? I haven't, I mean, I haven't gone looking for any interviews, but I'm not sure. Any of the girls that she competed against? I haven't come across any interviews or anything. I'm sure the other girls are probably pissed on. What do they say? They're upset. Yeah, there's all the controversy about it.
Starting point is 00:54:08 They're like, what the fuck's going on here? They've been training their whole life to dominate a sport, and then this guy just comes in and smokes them. Not even close. He's like fucking reading a book, fucking swimming faster than him. Pull up David Lucas. Find a clip. That was fucking a David Lucas.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. David Lucas talking about LeBron James going to the NBA. Yeah, he's funny as hell, man. Dude, David Lucas is... I was the first episode of his podcast. He's a funny-looking guy. Were you really? Yeah, I was out in L.A. and I did the very first episode.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Oh, didn't you do it too, Matt? No, that was brothers in cursive. But that was still David Lucas. Yeah, he was on. He was one of the two guys. He did, now he's doing the fat pessimist, which was his own, like, solo. Type in David Lucas on YouTube. You got to look at his YouTube channel.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Yeah. Now he's doing, like, reaction, like reaction shit. Yeah. To just, like, funny reaction. I don't think he's not really doing too much for a podcast anymore. I mean, I'm sure he would, but. Yeah, no, he just, yeah, I've been seen. He's just doing, like, the reaction shit.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Yeah, yeah. But that's good, man, because it's like, I couldn't understand why he wasn't really putting out a lot of content. So I'm sure somebody got in his ear and was like, listen, man, you just need to fucking do something. You know what I mean? That's why he's just starting now and now. Because, like, this is more recent that he's been doing like all these like reactionary videos and shit. Like the panel in the past few months. And, and Joe Rogan likes all of his shit on Instagram too.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Yeah. So, yeah, he's getting a boost. He's probably seeing that. Somebody's like, oh, my God, I got to do something out. Yeah, you need to do something out. Joe Rogan's liking all your photos on Instagram and all your videos. You've got to start doing more. Well, he's, you went on tour with Rogan.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Yeah, I know him. Because he's really, I think David Lucas came up, like, doing Tony Hinchcliffe show. Yeah, kill Tony. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When I was out in L.A., that was in that whole comedy scene. Like, I used to go to the comedy store all the time. It was in the laugh factory. I used to go to ha-haz.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Really? Yeah, fucking I had Jack Jr. And fucking David Lucas on my podcast when I was in Phoenix. Really? Yeah, I went out and seen him at the comedy club. And I fucking, because I seen Lucas was coming out. And I was like, oh, fuck, me go out here and surprise him. It's David Lucas talking about the transgender shit.
Starting point is 00:56:01 That's what he's talking about. And, um... It's not about LeBron. Yeah. had them both on the podcast, tattooed them both. You tattooed? Yeah, tattooed David Lucas. I don't remember what I did on him.
Starting point is 00:56:11 I did something. I remember right here for like his daughter or something like that. Oh, really? I tattooed Jack Jr. Yeah. See, David Lucas had a fish fry and Bert Chryser showed up. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Burke Chrysher, we came out to his Lucas and fish fry. Yeah, they're out there filming. Bert's funny. I love Bert Chryser, man. Yeah, me too, bro. Yeah, that's such a good story. I heard they're making a movie out of that. They should.
Starting point is 00:56:30 That's how we got famous. Rolling Stone bought his life rights. Yeah. And put him in an article. It's like America's fucking wildest fucking partier. He was, he's from Florida. He's from Tampa, Florida. It's where he grew up.
Starting point is 00:56:42 And then he went to, was that, was at Florida State? Probably. Then he was at, then if I was at Miami, or that he was in one of those major colleges. He was like the party guy on campus. And Rolling Stone did a fucking thing. And then somebody bought his life rights. And then he started doing a stand-up. And he's doing all right for himself.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Yeah, he's doing right for himself now. Yeah, I heard they were making that whole machine, like, a bit into a movie. That's cool. That's awesome. Yeah. What the, is the machine. Oh, man. Right. So when he was in college,
Starting point is 00:57:08 he took, like, a Russian class and they just, like, needed one more person for the class so that the teacher could fucking have their class. Everybody get paid. They get their credits. So they went, actually went to Russia, like, on a school trip, and, like, he ended up, like, getting involved with the Russian mob on a train,
Starting point is 00:57:25 and they robbed everybody on the train, and then they got to Russia, and they told the police to fuck off and, like, told his teacher to fuck off. You have to watch the story, right? He partied with the Russian mob the whole time he was in Russia. Oh, yeah. And yeah, yeah, it's fucking... Yeah, and then they call him the machine or whatever. Because he could drink, because he's just a fucking partier.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Like the fucking wild boy partier. Isn't he like super mad at the guy Arshafier because he gave him ecstasy or something? Dude, so Ari came over to film a podcast at Bert's house, Burr for Bertcast or whatever. And he turned his back to him and he's like, yeah, he won a shot. And he fucking put Molly in the fucking in the alcohol and gave it to Bert. And they fucking didn't tell him and dose him with Molly. And dude, he had to get on a plane in a few hours to go to, like, do a gig.
Starting point is 00:58:03 and his fucking family's there and his kids and everything So sick Dude, Ari's not allowed To fucking Bert's house anymore Fucking, yeah His wife doesn't want it fucking But isn't that I think those guys
Starting point is 00:58:13 Do to each other all the time for fun I don't know about that But Ari's, you know He's fucking off the chain anyway I think if somebody put Molly in my drink I wouldn't be that mad Yeah right You'd be checking the ER fucking immediately
Starting point is 00:58:24 Yeah right bro Birds on all kinds of like blood pressure medication For his heart Oh is he? I mean he doesn't look healthy He looks really on Oh he's a boozer I mean he's a daily
Starting point is 00:58:33 He's like, I will always make sure that I can keep myself as healthy, just as healthy enough so I can continuously drink, so I don't have to quit drinking. It's his thing. It's crazy how all those guys just became like superstars in like the last five years. Yeah. Tom Seguera, fucking, you know, Bert Kreischer, Arsafir, all them guys. It was just amazing, man. Like I remember watching the rise of like I was watching the podcast when they weren't shit,
Starting point is 00:58:59 you know, when they had barely any subscribers. And, you know, now, you know, they're making millions of dollars. So, Listen, when you see channels that do nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, and then when they take off and do growth, the growth is exponential. I mean, I'm sure you... Not really.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I mean, not for all channels, but for a lot of channels they are. I mean, as soon as it starts taking off, then it's just like 100,000, 100,000, 200,000, it's just like, what the fuck is going on here? Like, I've been watching a lot of videos, like on, like on H3, like the rise and demise of the H3 podcast, you know who they are, the fucking...
Starting point is 00:59:29 Yeah, yeah. I forget the guy's name, but I know you're talking about. Ethan. He does the eyebrows. Yeah, he's got the fucking tweak, the Twitch on his face. His eyebrows, he's like that. Yeah, his name's Ethan. Yeah, Ethan Klein, right?
Starting point is 00:59:39 Ethan Klein, yeah. And, you know, I watched, I see an actual scene of their progress. And once they hit, like, 100,000, 150, 200,000 subscribers, the growth, I seen the chart. It was almost exponential. Really? Yeah, it just went crazy. Yeah, he did great. I mean, he, they had a different channel before they did a podcast.
Starting point is 00:59:56 They did, like, basically videos just talking about different things. Yeah. It was completely different style before they had the podcast. And they were, they were doing, like, really. really interesting commentary on things and they had a lot of YouTube subscribers way before the podcast
Starting point is 01:00:10 they're just like plugged into that whole like... And they started early too. Really early. Yeah, they started really early and they just started putting out content, you know. Yeah. You stay very, very tuned in
Starting point is 01:00:21 to the whole YouTube world, don't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I stay on top. I keep my thumb on the pulse. Yeah. What kind of shit? What kind of should do you pay attention to the most? As far as like the YouTube
Starting point is 01:00:33 the YouTube world. I mean, I just, I pay attention to who's on top. I pay attention to, you know, what the latest trends are. I pay attention because there's always some kind of drama going down with like, you know, because YouTubers. What's your favorite YouTube channel? Ooh, that's a good question. You're supposed to say concrete.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Inside Drew Craig. No, I mean, I watch concrete a lot. Whenever you guys put out episodes, I watch them a lot. But I think I watch Canadian Prepper a lot. Yeah, he's just this guy up in Canada who does like a lot of the fucking the doomsday videos. He's always on top of what's going on politically, like what's going on in Ukraine, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:07 what policies were enacting in the United States, like all the like the shit that's happening. And then he kind of throws in like the dun, dun, dun, you know, they're moving fucking, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:14 so like get prepared, fucking, you know, when the grid goes down situation, he's always talking about that kind of shit. Listen, if you watched what he watches, you'd shoot yourself with an about,
Starting point is 01:01:23 about, to take about two weeks. You'd be so depressed. Everything is the world's ending. Put, put, you need to start putting canned goods away. The,
Starting point is 01:01:31 the collapse. is imminent. They're taking away the guns. They're doing this. They're moving troops. They're this. And I'm like, listen, I'm still going to be able to go to Walmart. Like, I'm fine. It's going to be fine. I'm telling you, man, you got, did you hear that? I'm like, we know the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth is, right? Yeah, but he watches it anyway. It's depressing. Like, to me, it's depressing. It's good fun. The difference between conspiracy theory and the truth is six months. Honestly, I mean, you've got it. You got to get Alex Jones.
Starting point is 01:02:00 You have to get Chris on the program. Oh, yeah, your buddy from jail. Oh, my, my cellie. That was your cellar? Yeah, that was my celly. Really? Yep. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:09 He just, I do. He gets awesome. Canadian prepper. Austin, you didn't even fucking pull up this prepper guy. Yeah, Canadian prepper. What are you doing, Austin's fucking sleeping back there. I don't know what he's doing. Austin just comes in his motherfucker casual and some flip-flops.
Starting point is 01:02:24 What are we doing? I want to see this guy. Yeah, Canadian prepper, folks. Hi, folks. Canadian prepper. That's what he, but, you know, I watch him a lot. Dude, I watch a lot of, what fuck do else do I watch on there? I watch, um...
Starting point is 01:02:36 This guy? Uh, I watch a lot of tech stuff, so I'm, like, I'm in real big into the tech channels. You know what I mean? Like, uh, MKBHD, fucking... Looka. Um, uh, uh, uh, what's his name? Click on his videos. It's over.
Starting point is 01:02:50 This is bad. I mean, you know, he's, listen, he's got, he's, he's been on the, he's been on the channel for a long time, dude. He puts out videos every day, every other day. And they all do numbers. We're running out of time. Satan. But I mean, yeah, I mean, listen, you know, all of it's legit. I like this kind of shit.
Starting point is 01:03:06 I love it. I love this kind of stuff. World War Z. I watch this guy a lot, man. I watch them like every day. It's over. Like, this is all depressing. It's all, read every title there.
Starting point is 01:03:15 It's like, this is World War Z. Oh, that's probably talking about the Russians invading Ukraine. Yeah. Yeah, so he's on top of it, man. Like, anything that's going on. World War Z with the Brad Pitt movie, the in about the zombies. If they start moving troops anywhere, he makes a video about it. Like, okay, now they're fucking over here.
Starting point is 01:03:31 and this could likely happen because now they got fucking this many guys on the front line and, you know, if they do this strategy, then it could go nuclear, but then this is this happens, then the nuclear option is taken off, and he's like in Finland and fucking, what's the name, join NATO,
Starting point is 01:03:45 and fucking that could cause this problem. And dude, he does a really good job of explaining everything and breaking it all down. And he's not like one of those fucking crazy people that are just like, everything that he's saying is just like facts. He's just basically breaking everything down
Starting point is 01:03:59 and giving you, you know what I mean exactly what's happening play by play and he doesn't do too much interjecture you know what I mean like a lot of it's not
Starting point is 01:04:06 opinionated like and I told you guys this was all gonna end he doesn't do those kinds of things and he delivers he delivers all this information in a very straightforward very well spoken
Starting point is 01:04:17 put together way you know what I mean it's promising it's promising to see that he hasn't been banned from YouTube I like that I mean
Starting point is 01:04:23 I'm sure all of these are got demonetized no YouTube's been been releasing a little bit of the pressure off that kind of shit lately, I feel like. I haven't had an episode. Knock on wood. I haven't had an episode demonetized in like months. And I've been doing some pretty edgy.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Do you ever fight them? I mean, the... Oh, I always do. Always do. I must do the last one I got demonetized. What about Elon Musk buying Twitter? I got one demonetized a month ago. And I don't even know why. I should fucking dispute that one. Yeah, I told you you you dispute it. I don't ever disputed. I'm just like, oh, well. Fuck it. You think Elon could afford you? YouTube? No, he can barely afford Twitter.
Starting point is 01:05:04 They're trying to squeeze them out already. They're fucking terrified, terrified of him taking over Twitter. Why do you think of that is? Well, because, you know, they have an agenda, obviously. Yeah. And he's going to disrupt that, which is either going to either amount to them losing dollar money signs or them losing power or, you know, control over whatever narrative that they're, you know what I mean, that they're trying to control. Because that's the only thing. you do when you suppress people's speech. And this is what blew me away, because I'm not a big Twitter guy. I'm not a big Twitter user.
Starting point is 01:05:35 I mean, I think, you know, telling people every thought that comes into your brain constantly all day is, you know, not a good way to communicate. And so I didn't know what Twitter was. I mean, I knew what it was. So I get on Twitter and I start messing around. And I'm like, no way, there's fucking porn right here on Twitter. And I was like, in my mind, I'm chewing it over. I'm like, so they allow this.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Right. But they won't allow the president of the. United States. To just speak his mind. That's bullshit. I'm like, there has to be some kind of agenda. That told me right then and there that there's some kind of internal fucking agenda at Twitter to whatever narrative that they feel, society, you know, and Elon Musk is like, listen, Twitter is the de facto platform for public communication. It's basically the new public square. So controlling that is a serious impediment to democracy, to free speech. So something
Starting point is 01:06:26 needs to be done about it. And that's why he got in there. and like, listen, something, you know what I mean? Like, fucking something needs to change. Do you think Elon really gives a fuck, or do you think he just wants clout? You know, I'm a true believer of Elon Musk. I don't think the guy has an evil bone in his body. I don't think he does anything out of self-servience. It's not evil to want clout.
Starting point is 01:06:43 I mean, maybe he, listen, he likes to be in the camera. He likes to fucking, you know, the pretty girlfriend and the fucking, you know, the cool billionaire. Like, I get it. But it's like, he's going to do it for the clout. If he is doing it for the clout, he's also going to make. good changes and positive changes to the platform so that it betters humanity. Like, I'm a true believer in Elon Musk. I'm a true believer.
Starting point is 01:07:06 I genuinely think that he's a good dude that has the means and the willingness to want to change the world for the better. Period. I mean, we're all, we're human at the end of the day, so of course he's going to have flaws. But I don't think he's like a Bill Gates fucking kind of character. Like, you know what I mean? Like sitting there thinking, you know, how can we fucking, you know, stick people and give him some kind of shot to change? I, dude, I watched some shit on Bill Gates. He was giving a speech to the CIA, and somebody, like, recorded it.
Starting point is 01:07:35 And I was on fucking TikTok. Austin? If not, I think I have it saved. I think I had to screen record it because it didn't have the save option on the fucking TikTok. And when they do that, you know it there's some malarkey going on. I love fucking TikTok, by the way. Oh, yeah, I do. You just see my TikTok feed.
Starting point is 01:07:52 It's all fucking, every fucking, everyone. I got to follow you on TikTok. Every one is all fucking. Do you post on there? I do just for the podcast every week, so I'm going to get into doing clips and, you know, I'm starting to do the whole TikTok shit. But anyway, I was like all. I'm searching you. Oh, Bozziat Conundrum, podcast.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Okay, keep going. And so it's Bill Gates, and he's giving a speech to a bunch of Secret Service guys, or I don't know who they were. It may have been Secret Service. It may have been, it was some kind of government body. And he was telling them that there was a vaccine that he could give out that suppresses a gene that makes people and people that are more likely to commit suicide bombings and commit
Starting point is 01:08:33 acts of like religious fucking like terror and he's like they they've isolated a gene in the in the Middle Eastern people over there because they have the genome Bill Gates is involved in all kinds of crazy shit but he was saying like we understand now the gene that is more expressive
Starting point is 01:08:51 in people who are more willing to do suicide bombings and like kill like mass people for like religious reasons and he's like we've developed a vaccine that suppresses that gene so that they would be, and it went on and on and on to say, he explained more, in more detail about it. I'm just like, holy fucking shit, are you kidding me? They're over there giving vaccines to people to suppress some kind of genes so that they don't fucking suicide bomb. Like, it's insane. Like, he's giving speeches to the government on this shit. It's fucking bananas. And you somehow making a bunch of money off there.
Starting point is 01:09:20 You have to find this video. I have to watch this. Listen, I think I'm, honestly, I think I have it saved on my phone. I fucking do. My favorite thing I've seen on TikTok recently? is a clip of Johnny Depp listening to Deposition. Oh, I just seen that. And it's like, and she said that she was bored to death because his friends would come over and it was just a bunch of old men playing guitar. And they're boring and old.
Starting point is 01:09:42 And he's just like, he's sitting there's like, he's fucking loving it. He's just like, I don't know, it's great. I think it's classic, great moment. Because you know it's just him and Marilyn Manson doing Coke upstairs. playing a guitar he was old guys jamming that's funny
Starting point is 01:10:01 I heard she cut off one of his fingers do you guys hear that I heard she cut herself and then maybe that was him how the how the fucking the stories change
Starting point is 01:10:09 I heard I heard they're arguing she chopped off the tip of one of his fingers or some shit that's crazy see this is how it goes with conspiracy theories
Starting point is 01:10:18 it sounds great when you say it on a podcast but then when you go to where's the proof when you go to fucking do the work and find the evidence it ain't there
Starting point is 01:10:26 no I save all this shit man I got listen I'll set if I have to I'll fucking send you the video because I what I do is when I get too many on my phone I upload them to my fucking my iPad Did you know I mean Bill Gates Is buying up more farmland I think right now than any
Starting point is 01:10:42 One else in the world Yeah he's gonna be the number one landowner in America Behind Black Rock I'm not sure if you know about Black Rock Yeah I know a lot about Black Rock Yeah they're fucking they're buying a little bit They're buying up everything They're they just bought like a million single family
Starting point is 01:10:55 Fucking rental properties across America and they're looking to buy. Well, they're buying, they're buying homes. Everything. They're buying up the whole entire market. Yeah. Yeah. So in the future, I don't know if you don't understand like the economic forum and the New World Order and Davos.
Starting point is 01:11:08 How they meet in Davos every year and the dude Schwab fucking runs the economic forum. Yeah, I know a little bit. The whole plan. What it? Explain what that is. Explain. Can you explain for dummies what the New World Order is? So, all right.
Starting point is 01:11:19 So the New World Order is a, it's kind of a plan pretty much put. That's an hour long video, Austin. Yeah, I know. Go ahead. Sorry to interrupt. Yeah, so in the New World Order, so there's a group, we should probably start off by saying
Starting point is 01:11:34 there's a group of people. This is like, you know, how there used to be the Bilderberg group. Now, it's kind of similar to the Bilderberg group, but it's called the World Economic Forum. It's pretty much just a conglomerate of CEOs, CFOs, fucking world leaders, you know, all of these corporations
Starting point is 01:11:52 and power, very powerful people that get together and they set, they have basically just come together once a year and they write out an agenda for how they want to see whatever industry they're in pushed forward or moved forward or whatever. So, I mean, obviously you're going to have
Starting point is 01:12:07 people from the end that represent energy there. You're going to have people that represent manufacturing. Every sect of society there have spokespeople there at this Economic World Forum. Now, it's all run by a dude named Klaus Schwab, who I guess he's like an industrialist
Starting point is 01:12:24 Klaus Schwab, yeah. Yeah, he's a real bad guy, apparently. I don't know, he's a globalist. You know, so my opinion, I mean, I really don't have opinion on global. He's like a, he's kind of like a George Soros type guy. Yes, George Swarrow's, George Soros type of character. You know, so, yeah, like I said, the World Economic Forum, they get together, and they basically put forth something called the New World Order, and it's titled the New World Order.
Starting point is 01:12:50 It's not a conspiracy theory. That's what they call it themselves. It's from their own. if you go and you can Google yourself and go on their website, and it says New World Order, and their vision for the future, it's a one-world government, all completely digitized currency, and basically you will own nothing and you will be happy. So basically, you know, physical ownership of, like, homes and vehicles
Starting point is 01:13:14 and, like, everything will be gone because it'll all be owned by the corporations and everything's going to be like a, you know, like a universal basic income, like a UBI. You know what I'm saying? Listen, you've got to understand that automation is going to take over. You know, algorithms and automation is going to basically phase out
Starting point is 01:13:32 all aspects of manual labor when it comes to like logistics and a lot of other jobs. I mean, I've been to, listen, I walk into CVS and it's all fucking self-checkout now. And there's just one chick walking around doing stock. That didn't happen five years ago. You go in, there'd be three or four cash registers
Starting point is 01:13:48 and you go in there wouldn't be any self-checkout. You know? and now I'm seeing videos of gas stations that are completely with no attendance there. You walk in and everything's in vending machines on the inside, and you pay with your car at the pump. Yeah. So, you know, like, this automation is going to take over. It's going to phase out, you know, large sacks of society who are going to need income.
Starting point is 01:14:08 The large corporations are going to come in, the Amazon's, the fucking Jeff Bezos, and the fucking, the Klaus Schwabes and the George Soros are going to come in. And there's a whole new fucking global... Cabal. Cabal of people that have set up this whole new blueprint of how we're going to live our lives in the future. And these guys control everything. So, I mean, that's the new world order. And how does Bill Gates tie into this?
Starting point is 01:14:32 Well, Bill Gates is a globalist. And, you know, he has the Bill Gates and Melinda Gates Foundation, which they control, you know, large swaths of real estate. They control, they have bio labs set up all over the world. I mean, in fact, some of the bio labs that are in the Ukraine right now are funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. So, you know, and listen, the rabbit hole goes fucking as deep as you want to fucking climb. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like all of these fucking dirty slithering cock suckers are all in bed with each other,
Starting point is 01:14:59 and it's all so fucking convoluted and twisted together, it'll make your fucking headspin. But you know what I mean? The CIA one says it was a hoax. I heard that Bill Gates was buying up all the land in the U.S. Because he wanted to start basically creating like cheap processed food for everyone. Like he wants to basically replace our food. Well, he who controls the food and the money controls the people. Right. And, you know, factory farming and maybe he's just a nice guy.
Starting point is 01:15:25 He's all about, that's one theory. That's one theory. Isn't Bill Gates, isn't it true that he's like all about pushing like, no meat, only vegan? Oh no, I'm not, I hate him. Yeah, I don't know. I thought he's not nice anymore. No. I actually thought he was like buying cattle and like was all about like controlling the factory farm. I could be wrong. I should be wrong. But I heard that I heard that he was trying to like. The CIA thing, that's a hoax. What is this? Did Bill Gates briefed the CIA in 2005 about a mind-and-altering vaccine? It was a 2020 hoax that said in 2005 he had briefed them, but it was actually a hoax. Scroll down. Scroll down.
Starting point is 01:16:03 This is disinformation. Fakes. Fake news. Bill Gates is right there and it's his voice and they're taught. What is that? They were just playing around. They were just, you know. They just Photoshop the word hoax on top of it. Let's see. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:16:17 I don't see any video. What the fuck is this website? Snopes? The screenshot, though, that's the video. I swear to God, I have that video. So I have it either on my iPad or... Austin, you gotta do some more digging to find the video. Bill Gates has enough interviews.
Starting point is 01:16:31 You could chop up what he's saying. I mean, Bill Gates, I mean... And he talks about vaccines all the time. I don't know how all the guy is, but you know that he's definitely... I know, I heard somewhere, I don't know for a fact, but I think this was proven, that he invested, like, somewhere in the realm of like $20 million, into
Starting point is 01:16:48 biointech two months before before I think it was in September in September of 2019 or 2018 before the lab leak actually happened so before there was some
Starting point is 01:17:07 there's some scientists in the lab in Wuhan they got sick they were the first people to get sick and get the coronavirus so like two months before that he invested like somewhere in the realm of like $20 million in biointech the company that created one of the vaccines. Okay, but keep in mind, this is a guy who's investing in stuff all the time. He gave a TED talk that said the next pandemic isn't a if it's a when.
Starting point is 01:17:30 This was like three or four years before. So he's been all in on the vaccine and the pandemic. Like he, you know what I mean? The last 10 or 15 years he's been talking about. Here's the actual video. Look at some of the work he's been doing over in Africa. Here's the Bill Gates video that you were talking about earlier. Look at those statistics.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Is this it? Yes. It shows it highlights part of the brain. Yes. Click on that. is it. On the left over here, we have individuals who are religious fundamentalist religious fanatics. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:17:55 The expression of R2 PCR, real-time PCR. That could that quick. Expression of the BMAT 2 gene. So our hypothesis is that these are fanatical people, that they have over-expression of the BMAT-2 gene, and that by vaccinating them against this, we'll eliminate this behavior. Trying to tell you guys. This is a hoax. Shh.
Starting point is 01:18:18 That's not a needy said he's got a vaccine. It's going to fix it. I don't even think that's Bill Gates. Stop it. That's Bill Gates. No way. Is an individual who's a religious fanatic and individual. We've repeated this numerous times that has a high level for VMA two.
Starting point is 01:18:42 What the fuck is he saying? I don't think that looks like Bill Gates. This guy. 100% Bill Gates. No way. 100%. 100. 100%.
Starting point is 01:18:51 You're 100%. 1,000%. Listen to his voice. You couldn't pick him out of a lineup. That's Bill Gates, man. Period. He talks with his hands a lot. It's the same gestures.
Starting point is 01:19:00 It's the same voice. He's got the glasses. He's not saying he's also not saying. I can't hear this. I can't hear this. Can't when you watched on your own time? It's like, it's like, it was it, 10 more minutes? What is it?
Starting point is 01:19:15 Respiratory viruses? such as flu or or vinoviruses and all right Austin you can stop it rew with the
Starting point is 01:19:23 fucking description of this video what is the description of this video try to tell you click on the no go up go up
Starting point is 01:19:28 and then click go down click on the title click on that yeah all right now pause it Pentagon video leaked briefing
Starting point is 01:19:36 on FunVAC so wait is it Bill Gates you said 100% yeah you were 100% 100% 100 that's a done
Starting point is 01:19:46 he said done deal it doesn't say Bill Gates's name anywhere on here the video was edited you can notice in some parts pixels i don't know man no what you were sure second a hundred hundred percent anyways it's actually a hoax but that's fine you guys were positive listen i'd have had all your money let's say right now bro i'm a different person now listen what the fuck was he even talking about first of all it's not
Starting point is 01:20:09 even clear what the he never he was talking about a vaccine he was talking about the v mat gene in the fucking you know that they can vaccine to suppress what do you mean no they fucking they can suppress that gene to fucking make them not blow them shit up. That's what the whole fucking first thing was about. You can't just give somebody a gene to say, hey, there, I'm going to give you a gene. It's not a gene. It's a vaccine that suppresses a certain gene in the fucking body. They can do those things now, Matt. You know they have that kind of technology now.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Then why aren't they hitting the transgender's with it? Whoa. Okay. So, I mean, if you can do that, why aren't they saying, hey, you're criminal thinking. Boom, they give you a vaccine. And guess what? Now you're not a criminal anymore. Because the Supreme Court hasn't fucking said we could yet.
Starting point is 01:20:51 And we haven't gotten there yet. They're not going to do this either. And it's a hoax anyway. It's a hoax. Well, it's a fun hoax if it is. Oh my God. Find the YouTube comments. We need to see the top YouTube comment on this video.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Or could we read the article that says it's a hoax? What's the top comment said? That's what I do you know. We're going to YouTube. It's not real. But I think the concept was supposedly that it would suppress that gene. Whether you interrupt, whether you interpret that as killing the person, so they can spread their seed is not the matter.
Starting point is 01:21:22 But that wasn't the take idea as far as I can't understand it. I mean, it wasn't that fucking clear what he was fucking talking about. I don't even think it was Bill Gates. It sounded a lot like Bill Gates. It sounded a lot like Bill Gates. I still think it's fucking true. I'm just sticking to my fucking original. Most scientists sound like Bill Gates.
Starting point is 01:21:41 I believe it. I believe it's awkward. There's something awkward about. Yeah, they're awkward. They're nerdy. They got that kind of their kind of have that Asperger thing. going on a little bit. Listen, when you're that intelligent, you know, you're not hanging out, hanging out, hanging out,
Starting point is 01:21:54 you're not, farts and picking boogers with the rest of the fucking teenage kids, you're not. You're not charismatic. You're in a book. I understand. You could have said it. Yeah, you're in a book. Yeah. Okay, he also invested, okay, yeah, he invested 50 million into impossible foods and actively finances beyond meat. What I mean, he probably sees, what does that say, ginko,
Starting point is 01:22:12 Biowworks and Biomig as described above? Fake food average. Yeah, I mean, you know, plates, claims, It is a real solution to climate change and solves environmental degradation while also ironing out animal welfare concerns. It's all about climate change. So he's buying more fucking farmland than anyone else in the country right now. He's buying up so much farmland. I got into a heated discussion with Matt because Matt thinks climate change is a hoax.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Matt doesn't believe in climate change. He doesn't believe in global warming. It's not that I don't believe it. There is global, the earth has, throughout history has gotten cold and gotten hot. It's got cold. It's got hot. And I don't think that we have that much to do with it. I don't think we have, I mean, it depends what you consider it's that much.
Starting point is 01:23:00 I think there definitely is, man. I mean, is there some. Listen, human beings definitely contribute to it. Since the dawn of the industrial revolution, we've been literally digging, digging fucking carbon up from the ground and putting it into the atmosphere and giant fucking quantities. And if you don't think that has anything to do with the fucking. I think you just told me that Bill Gaping. Bill Gates is going to vaccinate everybody to make them non-terrorist, too. So some of what you're saying, suspect.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Okay, I'm just saying science. That's science. Okay. That's science, too. And I don't go fuck what they're talking about. That's, what's the fucking... The problem is, the problem is, it's, there's way too much information out there for any single person to comprehensively understand at once.
Starting point is 01:23:44 So it's just easier to pick one side and then argue whatever points that you hear somebody else talk about. Plus, we live in echo chambers. You know, and everything that we look at online is tailored to only give us the information that we're looking for, which kind of creates like these, like I said, these echo chambers. So if I only let me only believe one thing. Because every time I turn around, you're listening to something that's talking about the end of the world or the economy's crushing and this. So fun.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Are you listening to this? Are you listening to this? I'm like, bro, please turn that off. I know. I get all fucking tuned up because you reset. They're taking over, bro. I'm painting. Can we, please, can we just watch this movie?
Starting point is 01:24:25 Yeah, I get up a lean cuisine. I tried to go to Starbucks the other day, and when we got in there, I ordered food, and then he just sat there and looked at all the food and went, I can't, I can't eat this. I can't do this. No, I can't, I can't.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Dude, fuck that garbage, that's in fucking Starbucks. That shit is garbage. It's, it's finger food that's been sitting in a refrigerator. for four months that came from a fucking factory. I got apples. I got apples and some peanut butter. I had to walk over to fucking... Not bad.
Starting point is 01:24:56 It was okay. What's the subplace I walked over to? The someplace where you think, what, they went out and they killed the cows right there just before you got there? You don't think it was processed food that they cut up and stuck in there. It had been there for months? I'm a meat and cheese kind of dude. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:25:09 I promise you, your stuff had been sitting in a refrigerator for six months someplace. Just because it was warmed up and you saw them cut it up. in front of you. You gotta go, Shane? No. Oh, okay. Why? You're looking at your watch
Starting point is 01:25:22 like you gotta be somewhere. I got a text message. Oh, he's got the fucking eye watch. Excuse me. Sorry for asking. Big shot. Hey, he's not in the club. You guys got three watches on them.
Starting point is 01:25:31 And none of them tell time. I got the fucking $10 Casio. I have used me, but. I have a $500 Joe. I have a freak. I have a watch that came to me for free. And it's the only thing it does is tell time. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:44 What kind of watches that again? It's a standage. the guy from the guy from Yeah, yeah Super cool Yeah he's super cool Hey I talk to him all the time Have you ever had one of those
Starting point is 01:25:55 Beyond impossible things though Those impossible meat burgers? I have yeah What do you think about them You know they have them at Dunkin' Donuts They're not that bad I would get the one from Carl's Jr. a lot Really?
Starting point is 01:26:05 Yeah I've never been to Carl's Jr. Yeah I was out in California Carl's Jr. That's big time out there Yeah it was right by Like where I was like in the neighborhood I used to like so
Starting point is 01:26:14 And honestly it's like tastes like the prison food. It tastes like the fucking patties they give you in prison because it's soy. Yeah, it's what the fuck it is. And soy is really bad for you, isn't it? Dude, it's not, I mean, I don't know. That's what's in prison I heard because we have a friend of ours, uh, Jake that was in prison for a long time. He said he got man tits from all the soy he ate. Oh, estrogen that's in the fucking soy. Yeah, there's estrogen in that shit. And, um, I do, I went vegan for a little while out in California. Uh, and I lost like fucking, I lost like 14 pounds in 19 days. And I'm already skinny. So, And it was fucking nuts.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Did he give you mantets? I didn't, you know, this thing is I don't, I can't eat tofu. Like, I can't eat the fucking, I hate tofu. No, I can't eat the tofu and I can't eat the fucking, um, the soy. You know what I mean? So, I lost a lot of weight. But I tell you what, I never felt better in my entire life. Like, the amount of energy.
Starting point is 01:27:05 When you were vegan? When I was vegan. Really? Yeah, I just, I always had, like, my energy, like, now it's like a roller coaster. Because of my eating, like, I'll eat and like. Low energy. Yeah. But, like, he doesn't.
Starting point is 01:27:16 drink coffee. Like everything I I was also doing coke every day. It's all coffee. No, I never did cocaine. Sugar and everything and all he eats is like carbs and just... You ever met a vegan who does a shitload of Coke? No. I don't think I know
Starting point is 01:27:32 any vegans. Oh man. Yeah, so needless to say... I have to know somebody who's a vegan. I got off the vegan shit because it was just like I was losing too much weight, man. I didn't like the way I looked. But I felt great. I felt fucking phenomenal. Yeah, when I was running it, every day. I was doing a lot of cardio and
Starting point is 01:27:48 a little bit of weights here and there, but... I have more energy when I don't eat. Sometimes I do like a five day, I do these five day fast, like once a year, and when I get on like day four, if I get on, like, you don't eat for five days? Yeah. Stop it. When I get to day four or five, I have like insane amounts of energy. No, no. I can do three times the amount of pull-ups that I can normally do when I'm...
Starting point is 01:28:06 You don't, you weigh five, ten pounds a lot. This guy... How much, how much weight do you lose in those five days? It's got a lot. I don't know. I didn't really... I didn't... What's your body type? You probably got endomorph? I don't know what the fuck. So there's three different body types. There's ectomorph, esomorph, and endomorph. What's the difference?
Starting point is 01:28:20 Endomorph is at the high end. So it's like you gain weight really easy, but it's hard to lose it. Ectomorph is where I'm at. Like, I can't, it's hard for me to gain, but it's real easy for me to lose it. And then in the middle, you kind of get to like the endomorph people who can fucking gain and they can swing their weight wildly just based on their diet with a little effort. I've weighed 165 pounds for like the last 10 years. And you can pretty much.
Starting point is 01:28:45 I vary maybe a pound and a half to two pounds. And what's your diet? I mean, do you, like, restrict yourself to, like, I'm not going to eat carbs or just eat whatever you want. Keto. He is. I try to do it. It's not a joke. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:28:57 I've tried it. I don't know. I don't do it anymore. I eat whatever I want now. I tried doing keto for a couple months. I just, I couldn't do it. That's rough. It is rough.
Starting point is 01:29:05 It sucks. I've never done it, but my roommates were on it, and I'm telling you what, I used to fuck with them every night. After I learned about keto, I stopped eating pasta. So I used to eat fucking pasta at least one night a week. But after that, after I learned about it, I just cut out like, I never, I rarely eat a plate of spaghetti or like pasta or whatever. But I eat, I eat pretty much anything else. But usually on the weekdays, I won't eat until like 11 or 12.
Starting point is 01:29:28 I just won't eat breakfast. Noon, yeah. But then after that, I fucking eat. I gorge from like 5 o'clock p.m. until like 9 or 10. I'll eat anything. Everything. Yeah. My kids leftover.
Starting point is 01:29:39 So he's like a leftover ham sandwich and some cereal on the ground. I just eat everything. Yeah. I literally eat all of his left. Yeah, I'm a garbage disposal too, man. Like, I fucking, like, 60% of my diet's carbs. I just eat fucking pastas. I eat the fucking bread.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Really? Oh, yeah, I'll have a big bowl of soup in a bread bowl with a baguette on the side and fucking, you know, I fucking smash. Like I said, I eat whatever I want, whenever I want. Everybody's different. Some shit works better for some people. Some shit. Yeah, I don't, I don't limit myself to portion size or anything like that. I usually eat until I'm fucking until my belly hurts.
Starting point is 01:30:09 You know what I mean? So I'm fucking feeling a little bit sick, to be honest with you. Yeah, I don't like that. And it doesn't really affect me, man. And it doesn't, you know, like I stay 140, 145. That's it. Like, I can't, you know, I'll hit 150, 115 if I start working out. And I'm doing the fucking weight gainer and the fucking creatine and all that shit.
Starting point is 01:30:25 But even that only puts about 10 pounds on. Does creatine make you add, gain weight? It puts water, yeah, it's water weight. I mean, it makes you more rounder. It puts water in your muscles and shit. So it helps the recovery time and fucking, you look more rounder and fuller, you know, so it helps everything else you're doing. But, you know, when I'm doing all that shit, then I put like 10, 12,
Starting point is 01:30:44 sounds on me, but even then. Yeah, man, it's crazy. If you ever try fasting, you have a lot of power and energy after you've done it for a few days. Man. You get, you get... If I skip one meal, dude, I'm fucking...
Starting point is 01:30:56 I don't know if... Yeah, but it's fall out. That's because you're addicted to food. We're addicted to food. Yeah, yeah. Like, the one thing that we are addicted to more than anything is food. Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Like, you really don't need food to survive. There's a guy who fasted for like a year without eating food. He didn't eat any food. Didn't eat any food for a year. If you could find him, Austin. Was that to do? He just got all. is for energy from the sun. He said he fucking laid out
Starting point is 01:31:16 in the sun. He got all that fucking the vitamin D. I think I read about this guy too. I'm like, yeah, he's full of shit. No, he's not full of shit. Dude, three days. Three days without food. Three weeks without food. You're done. You know, just the three rule. Look, this guy did one year and 17 days. Yeah, look at him. So you can get all the
Starting point is 01:31:32 nutrients you need. And he was fucking probably 300 pounds and he just lived off of all that fucking bad. It just melted off. Yeah, he lived off of all that for however many days it was. Right, right. I couldn't do that. I'd be dead in a week. So, yeah. So that's the difference. So when you start fasting, your body goes
Starting point is 01:31:46 into this ketosis. That's what the whole keto thing comes from. It just starts eating itself. So now the energy... Metabolizing its own fucking... You're burning... You're burning fat instead of carbohydrates. So it's just the fat melts off. That's why people who are fat when they do keto, they lose weight really quick. Wow.
Starting point is 01:32:01 And you get better energy, like more of a clean burning energy when you're burning fat. And so keto's what? No carbs. Zero carbs, pretty much. No, no, there's like a... There's like a percentage of your diet. So only like 9% of your diet can be carbs, I think 30% protein and like 50% fat or 60% fat or something like that. But my point was like one of the guys I have in here is a doctor who studies, he just studies metabolic health and brain health.
Starting point is 01:32:30 His name is Dom Daxino. He comes in here. He's fucking jacked, dude. Massive fucking dude. And he's a doctor at USF and he's a research scientist. And he studies how he does like research on mice. And he started doing it by testing, doing it. tests on Navy SEALs. Navy SEALs who were getting oxygen toxicity, oxygen toxicity seizures
Starting point is 01:32:50 from the rebreathers from like, like trying to like, you know, go underwater, undercover without the bubbles. And they were getting these seizures and he was doing tests on them with diet, like seeing how they could avoid these seizures with different types of diets. And he found out that about restricting carbs and putting them in ketosis. They were getting rid of that. And then that kind of like transitioned into therapy for people who had epilepsy. So people who had, he started testing it on epileptic people and then taking them off all their meds, making them 100% keto, and they were literally being cured of epilepsy. They were going from like having multiple seizures a day to no seizures for months.
Starting point is 01:33:28 It's fucking crazy shit. And then anyways, so he was telling me after like seven days of fasting, he could deadlift something like 500 pounds, like for 20 reps. No shit. Like more than he normally does, which is insane. but yeah ketosis shit's crazy I don't know if I could I don't know if I could do it
Starting point is 01:33:43 I just I enjoy the fucking yeah I enjoy it so much I hate I hate Matt's so burnt right now yeah he doesn't do them he doesn't do carbs at all Matt just drinks pure sugar from Starbucks He survives on diet
Starting point is 01:33:57 Sprite and fucking spoonfuls of peanut butter Hey I love the spoonful of peanut butter I eat at least one spoonful of peanut butter a day maybe every other day I'm asking man I'm not kidding
Starting point is 01:34:12 He's not happening He's debunking conspiracy He's debunking dius He's doing it all Listen I was I'm still I'm still convinced that was real Oh my God I always forget about the fucking Illuminati tattoo
Starting point is 01:34:24 In the top of your head Show me that again That thing's fucking sick You all see Hey what is that conspiracy theory Speaking of Illuminati What's the conspiracy theory I just learned about it yesterday
Starting point is 01:34:33 But I forget what it's called It's like a god of reflections What? There's like a name for it. Fuck. What's the premise? I don't even know, but it's like, it's supposed to be that's one of,
Starting point is 01:34:44 I know exactly what that's it, what that is then. No, the god of reflection, type in conspiracy. That's Matt. Narcissus. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:55 But there's like a whole, there's like a whole, like crazy icon on it. He somehow, it somehow ties into free masonry. I don't know. No, I'm,
Starting point is 01:35:07 I'm, what is it? Oh my God. I didn't get the newsletter on that one. What is the moon hoax? We definitely didn't go to the moon. Oh my God. We definitely didn't go to the moon.
Starting point is 01:35:17 Matt, did we go to the moon? We went to the moon. Definitely not. We didn't go to the fucking moon, man. You know that. We sent three assholes up there in a tin can. How the fuck did they get through the fucking the radiation belts? That cut the van eyes and radiation belts.
Starting point is 01:35:30 There was nothing to protect them from the radiation. Stop. Stop. You're not a scientist. And then, how did they tell a day in real time, broadcast. fucking their their signal and their video to every person in America on live TV in the 60s?
Starting point is 01:35:45 It was... Yeah. From the moon? Oh my God. Are you telling me that there's thousands of scientists that know how they're done, but there's always one quack on YouTube
Starting point is 01:35:54 that says some bullshit and certainly all these people like... I knew it. Plenty of science. The flag! There's no wind. The flag is moving in the... Oh, how did they do?
Starting point is 01:36:06 Where's the stars? Stop. Stop. I've watched this documentary. Come on. Have you seen pictures? Focus on time on something else. I've watched them.
Starting point is 01:36:15 That's a great one, Matt. What should we spend our time on? I don't know. No, I'm not convinced. It was political, man. It was political. Documentaries, I'm like, eh, no.
Starting point is 01:36:24 It makes some good points. What was it about? They were trying to beat the Russians. It was the Cold War. But we didn't. We were trying to beat the Russians to the moon, and that, you know, we wanted to, because America has to be first and everything.
Starting point is 01:36:34 And that's what it was at that time. We weren't. We were just coming out of fucking World War II, It was fucking late, you know, it was late 60s. And there was this whole, everything's American, everything's made here in America, America number one. I mean, which we're living in the fucking zombie remnants of that now, which is all we're all horde and prostituted out to the fucking corporations. That's a different fucking story. But at that time, that was the climate.
Starting point is 01:36:54 What did you ever? So we had to be fucking, I told you, I had all that got that medal before we got down here. We fucking, it was the space race, man. We had to be first. It was polluted. But we weren't first. We didn't have the first satellite. We didn't put the first.
Starting point is 01:37:07 Man into space The Russians were first Think about this though We happen to land on the moon Sputnik 1 We're sending Fucking regular citizens We're sending
Starting point is 01:37:19 Jeff Bezos And Richard Branson Are flying into space For fun 20 years from now He'll be telling you that never happened But we haven't gone to the moon Since we've gone to the moon
Starting point is 01:37:29 Since we've gone to the moon the first time Right didn't Then we only go once They said we lost the technology No we didn't We didn't They said that Who said that?
Starting point is 01:37:35 NASA Who said that Chris? NASA said that NASA themselves said that we no longer have the technology to get to the moon. It was lost. All of those programs, the Apollo program, I'm telling you right now, do it. Give it a gog. Pull it up.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Gosh, dang. Tell me where you have someone, an employee, current employee of NASA that said we couldn't go to the moon right now. We don't have the technology. I think private industry could get us to the moon back right now. The rockets that we used to take that, we mean, if they put it together made a plan, but we don't currently have one. Like there's no game plan. You have to have a plan. There's no game plan.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Like the technology that took it to the moon, the lunar module and the fucking. No, they can't go jump in a ship and fly there right now. No, they're going to have to put something together. Austin, Austin, click the one and said, why did we lose the ability to go to the moon? That's like me saying that I can't currently, you know, I can't currently fly. No, you're right. I don't have a jet in the parking lot.
Starting point is 01:38:28 I'm going to have to go get somebody. Read this. Matt, will you read this in your nice voice? No. Come on, go ahead, read it. No, I'm not going to read it. That's going to have to get it to read it to us. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:42 Why did we lose the ability to go to the moon? This answer is true. There were two accidents, a fire on the launch pad of Apollo 1 that took the lives of three astronauts and an exploding oxygen tank on Apollo 13 that crippled the mission. But those astronauts were able to return safely to Earth thanks to even more team. That's not why we lost. It's not really an answer to this question. That's not an answer. That's nothing to do with it.
Starting point is 01:39:04 Right. But why haven't we gone? Why don't you think we've gone to the moon since then? What year did we go to the moon 50 years ago? 69. Why the fuck? They landed in 69, but they've been... So, okay, so you gotta think about NASA as, like,
Starting point is 01:39:18 you have to think about NASA as like just another branch of the government because that's essentially what they are. So when it comes down, so they have all these programs put in the place that are, that have upkeep, you know what I mean, like the rockets and, you know, all of the programs and that all the systems that are used for launch and all of the supporting systems and all that shit, these are all programs that they have in NASA. And once one of those programs are retired
Starting point is 01:39:39 And they don't have a replacement program for that fucking That whatever that that goal Then they just no longer have the technology Because the, okay, the rockets that we used to get to the moon in 69 We're like Apollo rockets. They don't fucking use those rockets anymore That technology, they don't even have it. What was the technology?
Starting point is 01:39:55 Even just the boot, the rocket boosters themselves They don't have the equipment. Even like to upkeep the fucking... It's not the technology. You still know the technology. Doesn't Elon buy his rockets from Russia? It's worth about... completely different system.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Like they're using, he's got his own engineers and shit working on like the rocket boosters and the way the fuel deliveries and everything. They can't just go digging Apollo rocket up and wheel it to the fucking launching pad and put it into the air. Like the systems used to even launch those rockets don't even exist anymore because you know NASA's always putting new things in the plane.
Starting point is 01:40:26 You've got the advent of everything was analog back then in 69. Nothing was digital. Everything was done analogs. You fucking switches and relays. We don't use switches and relays anymore. Everything's fucking digital. through Wi-Fi. So you've got to think about it. So now, if they haven't sat down
Starting point is 01:40:41 and be like, okay, we need a plan to go to the moon, then they just don't have a fucking plan to get there. It's not like hopping into your Ferrari or your car and driving to public. Do you think that if they sat down over the weekend, they could come up with a plan? I mean, yes.
Starting point is 01:40:56 Absolutely. And then it'd take them six months to a year to put the, maybe two years to build the rockets, to put it together. But could we go to the moon in two years from right now, if the United States government wanted to. Yes. I'm going to say yes.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Absolutely. Or. So I feel that was a 180. A lot of people say 160. 160 is not true. That's a 180. That's a complete turnaround. 360.
Starting point is 01:41:20 360. Sorry, 360. A lot of people say 360, but that's not sure. There's a 180. So now you're saying we can go. You're just saying that right now they don't have the equipment or a plan to go. No, of course not. You don't keep that around because we don't need to go every six months.
Starting point is 01:41:34 But they could go. They wanted to go. Also, there's really no point. point of putting human beings on the moon when they can just send these drones up there to fucking rover all they've checked it out there's listen it's dead it's a rock well see what the plan was it is it
Starting point is 01:41:46 is it or what if what if it's hollow that's where all the Nazis went it's a Dyson sphere and they're living it's a Dyson sphere exactly they're living inside of a Dyson sphere which is the moon we just went and seen a movie I just went to see a movie at the theater
Starting point is 01:42:02 where that doesn't matter they're living inside that the moon was actually a fucking alien spaceship and it was fucking it's been there since like the beginning of time like this is just a recent movie that was just out actually moonfall it was called moonfall
Starting point is 01:42:17 because there was some like amateur astronomerist that figured out the moon and kept getting closer and closer to the earth what what is the official narrative on how the moon got there isn't it? Yes didn't we get hit by a giant this earth there's two theories okay so there's there's what is like the accepted
Starting point is 01:42:33 theories I know the mainstream the mainstream archaeology archaeological theory is that they... What's the non-conspiracy theory that Matt Cox would accept? Well, there's no... Neither one of these are conspiracies. This is both mainstream science. One was, when the Earth was in its early, you know, forming stages,
Starting point is 01:42:49 I believe it was either a comet or an asteroid came and knocked off, either split it in half or knocked off a very large chunk of it. And because of the way the rotation of the Earth happens... They were spinning it. They were spinning. They both created two bodies. One being a satellite of the Earth and one being Earth itself. And that's one theory. The second theory is that the moon is just a collection of debris left over from when the Earth was forming,
Starting point is 01:43:14 not formed by like a giant cataclysm with something actually hitting the Earth. And there's actually evidence for both because a lot of the dust and shit that they find on the moon is created from, you know, space dust and like other rocks that and other elements that aren't found here on Earth. I heard of the theory that there was like another Earth, like an Earth 2 that collided with this Earth. and then created... Well, that's part of his theory, is basically they're saying the formation was that
Starting point is 01:43:40 when all of these different bodies were slamming in each other, there were two bodies that slammed in each other, and as they slung around, one became, you know, as they're rotating, one became the Earth, and one was the moon, it was just kept in its gravitational field
Starting point is 01:43:53 and it kept rotating, that was it. And then the moon became a satellite. And they say that without the moon, life on Earth wouldn't be possible. Gravitation. Oh, it creates... It would be vastly different. You know, the moon is tidal-locked, so the rotation of the moon, the rotation of the Earth is intrinsically synced with the, you know, the rotation of the moon.
Starting point is 01:44:14 And then it was tidal-lock, so it controls the tides on Earth. It controls the tide. That's a good one. Yeah, so like I said, the moon, you know, we wouldn't be here if it weren't for the moon. I actually just walked a documentary. I mean, we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Jupiter. Yes. Jupiter sucks in all the asteroids.
Starting point is 01:44:33 shields us from a lot of... It's got insane gravity. Yeah. But what's like 300 times the size of the Earth or whatever? Giant gas, it's a gas giant. Yeah, and I just watched a documentary the other day. They were talking about... It was actually...
Starting point is 01:44:46 I don't know, it was a documentary. It was one of these videos I watch on YouTube. I followed on rabbit holes. It was saying how... There's like the rare life theory where they're saying that life is either one of two things. It's either extremely abundant in the solar system and the galaxy, or it's extremely rare.
Starting point is 01:45:01 and that, you know, what we have here on this earth is just like an extremely fucking random anomaly. And not only that, the progression of like the human of us being able to, you know, think introspectively about our existence, you know, about, you know, existentialism in itself, it's saying that it's even more rare than that. Hmm. And there's evidence for both. You know, I had Randall, Randall, you know who Randall Carlson is? I do, yeah. I talked to him about it. He was telling me about one of the theories that he thinks,
Starting point is 01:45:32 I mean, I don't know if he was just explaining one of the popular theories. What? Oh, did he? Yeah. I'm going to say, he didn't say not to talk about it. He didn't say that he believed this, but he was talking about a theory that was explained to him that the moon was man-made.
Starting point is 01:45:51 I don't know the details of it. I'm sure you could find a YouTube video on it. Right. But he's a Freemason. What's it made out of? The Freemason, no lot. Cheese. I don't know. I don't know. What could be made out of?
Starting point is 01:46:06 I mean, I mean, the aliens could have put it here to because they knew that if they put that giant, you know, whatever here that. Hey, whatever happened. That's their base. There was an article that came out a couple months ago that the Chinese Chinese version of NASA found like a black structure on the moon.
Starting point is 01:46:26 on the dark side of the moon in one of the craters Yeah they found like a box looking structure And they were sending out They were sending out a rover to go find it They said it was going to take a month to get there Can you find that? Did you, did I show you this That Chris sent me about the zooming in on the moon
Starting point is 01:46:43 This guy They zoom in Zoom in This is going to be like a gag No It's going to be the guy No this is Chris like Chris believes this
Starting point is 01:46:55 Like see the little things right there. Watch the dick pop up. That's not a dick. What are you doing? Yeah, but these TikToks are so, I know. It looks so real.
Starting point is 01:47:06 And basically what I told Chris was, I said, so it's somebody who's skydiving on the moon. What's a big deal, Chris? And it was like, yeah, it's aliens skydiving on the moon. Is that what you're saying? I said, yeah, it's fucking aliens. What's your issue with aliens? And Chinese Rovers spots a weird lot. Yeah, yeah, this is it.
Starting point is 01:47:22 When was this published? December 7th. Yeah, so this is when it was published. It was a couple months ago, December or three or four months ago. And there's a picture of, yeah, see that thing? That was like everyone. Same thing in Matt's video. I was going to say, but. Man, that's fuzzy.
Starting point is 01:47:39 But they said, they said, it's always just out of frame and fuzzy. They were going to send something over there to go check it out. And then there was, I never saw anything after that. That's awesome. Listen, we're bound to find something. I mean, did you imagine if different countries populated the moon? Like, you didn't like six months. Once ago, they say that, look, there are UFOs.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Like, they came out, like, they came out and said, look, they're UFOs. These things are flying around our jets. We see them. They went in the ocean. We don't know what they are. There's a theory about that, though. Nobody said shit. There's a theory that they're just saying that because that's their shit.
Starting point is 01:48:13 And they don't want everybody to know that they have the government or whoever, like these, they have the technology. So they're like, yeah, it's UFOs. You guys are right. Even if they did. You guys are absolutely right. We don't know what these, we don't know what these things are. Okay, so even if they said that. They out maneuver our.
Starting point is 01:48:28 fucking part playing. Right. Even if they did, they did just say they're UFOs. Yes. So you're saying that the government just said, hey, they're UFOs, they're moving very fast, we don't know what they are. This is how fast they're going. They just admitted it. There wasn't massive panic. They, the government admitted something? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Are you serious? Whatever the government admits, yeah. The opposite is probably true. Okay. So if they said they don't know what they are, then they definitely know. They probably definitely know what the fuck they are. If they're saying we don't know what they are, they appear to be UFOs, we don't know. So what's the opposite? Tell me what happened.
Starting point is 01:49:04 I think that it's technology that the United States has their hands on and they're testing. Okay. That's what I think. Either way, once again, you guys are missing the point. Either way. Jesus. I was not, you're not understanding. Either way, they're saying there are UFOs.
Starting point is 01:49:20 So what I'm saying is they just said, hey, there are UFOs. People didn't have massive panic. they didn't go nuts People didn't stop paying their bills Yeah but so I mean But I mean The society's pretty fucking jaded Here in 2022
Starting point is 01:49:35 Right so why why about it? From all the shit that's going on Well if if Imagine if on the front page of the New York Times They showed a fucking flying saucer Landing on the line of the white Front lawn of the White House And they showed him the fuck they showed
Starting point is 01:49:47 I think people would still pay their mortgages I think they'd still go to work You still have jerkoffs going to work every day Yeah absolutely Like fuck that I'm out here I think there'd be more YouTube videos on it think would change? Nothing.
Starting point is 01:49:58 I think Rogan would do a couple of podcasts. I think that I'd do one. I'd yell at him to do one and he'd say, I'm not doing anything trending. I'm not doing it. All these jackoffs on YouTube doing it. I'm not doing it. Alex Jones would do one.
Starting point is 01:50:14 I'm going to yell about how these people treated me when I flew. I bucked the system. Right. So he wouldn't do it. You'd get somebody on here, scientists, to talk about it. But in the end, I think everybody, would wash their cars and take their kids. It's like that movie, it's like that movie, don't look up.
Starting point is 01:50:30 Yeah. Have you seen that? Oh, yeah. Such a great fucking movie. Yeah, it's a good movie. It's a great movie. Funny as fuck. Yeah, it was good.
Starting point is 01:50:36 I think, I think people would, uh, I think it'd be like, when 9-11, when everyone became, like, super patriotic and, like, everyone was, like, pro-America. No, there wasn't all this, like, divided, like, Trump versus the woke. I think everyone would start to become a little bit more level-headed. For a little bit. For a little bit. For a little bit. Biden would, they'd have to walk Biden out
Starting point is 01:50:57 on the yard and show them where it is. What is that? I think if we realized, is that Air Force 2 or 1? No. No. If we had, our aliens. If we realized that there was like another threat, like an existential threat outside of the earth, we would kind of team together a little bit more than we are now for sure.
Starting point is 01:51:15 That's not even possible. Like the idea that aliens would come down here and invade. No, we're not ready yet. No, but I mean like what would, like if you could get to the earth from across the galaxy or universe, then we're not much of a threat. Like, you've got all of our problems beat. I think they're waiting to come down.
Starting point is 01:51:34 I think they're waiting to reveal themselves to us. And I think they check on us every once in a while, and then they'll come down and they'll see Boziac tattooing some girl's asshole. They say, not ready. They're not ready. It's like when you're baking cookies in the oven and you're checking. Nope, no, 10 more minutes. Yeah, these monkeys just figured out how to split the atom.
Starting point is 01:51:51 You know what I mean? They're going to blow themselves up. I think that's why they're coming out already. I have a new proposition. Okay. Okay. I say we need to start a GoFundMe. And if that GoFundMe can hit $10,000,
Starting point is 01:52:07 I will get Danny and HatRack's face tattooed on my ass cheeks. Nice. We're not doing a GoFundMe. Okay, well, we'll do it YouTube Live. Is that how we're going to do it? We're not going to scan people out of GoFundMe because you know GoFundMe took all the truckers money, right? Well, no, because not if you're up front exactly about what you're not supporting the goddamn GoFundMe. What trucker?
Starting point is 01:52:25 The Canadian truckers. Oh, they get a piece of that, don't they? There was a whole GoFundMe set up to support the truckers, and there was, I forget how much money. There was, I think it was close to $100,000 or even a million dollars that was donated to support the Canadian truckers because they didn't want to get vaccinated because they fucking driving a truck. So he said, no, we're not doing that as in we're not doing the tattoos or we're not doing GoFundMe. No, he didn't like that. GoFundMe didn't like the cause or whatever. I don't know what happened, but they thought that it wasn't moral.
Starting point is 01:52:52 It was political. And they took the fucking money. No way. Okay, once again, I cannot imagine that they just took a million dollars of these people. They had to get threatened by the government, okay, for fraud. And I guess it looks like that they were refunding. Did they refund everybody? Yeah. I'd like to, I'd like to.
Starting point is 01:53:08 10 million in donations. Listen, first of all, I'd like to say, I'm the voice of reason here. Not you because you don't say anything crazy, but between these two, I feel like I'm the voice of reason. And that bothers me when I'm the voice of reason. How bad is it? What do you mean? Waste of reason. Like, he's like, they took a million dollars.
Starting point is 01:53:26 They didn't take it. Like, I don't even know what this is. Let's find out what actually happened. Immediately, if we find out, they refunded it. They refund the money. You know, he, you know, we can't get to the moon. We can't, we don't have the technology. We can never go.
Starting point is 01:53:37 We don't, we lost this. No, basically, it's just because we don't have the, currently have the rockets, right? Well, yeah, we could go. Well, let's see. Did they refund the money? Let's find out. What did Ron DeSantis say? It is fraud for GoFundMe to commandear $9 million in donations,
Starting point is 01:53:50 sent to support the truckers and give it a cause of their choosing. I will work with A.G.R. to investigate these deceptive practices. These donors should be given a refund. So they had to fight. Governors of fucking states had to fucking tweet and fight. They tweeted. They get the money back.
Starting point is 01:54:09 They refunded $10 million. They were like, he had to fucking type this tweet on his phone. So listen. Oh my God. I mean, literally like on a Monday they get a tweet and they are like, look, we have 90 days to return the money. We were planning on returning it anyway. Relax, calm down.
Starting point is 01:54:23 And they returned it. So we're not using GoFundMe then. So we're not. That's why we're not going to use that's why you're not. Yeah, of course. Because they have a, they probably have a certain time. I don't think we should use GoFundMe, Matt Cox. I don't, listen.
Starting point is 01:54:34 I look, I don't even want your names or your faces out of that. I just thought that was like a, I'm going to. No, no, we're not doing names. We're doing full portraits, baby. Full color portraits. Hell yeah. Full color portraits. Listen, we don't have to use GoFumme.
Starting point is 01:54:48 Fuck GoFund me. I just, that's the factto go-to go-to. for crowdfunding. We can set up a Patreon tier. It's crowdfunding. Set up a patron tier. Okay. Where it's whatever, a thousand bucks,
Starting point is 01:54:56 $2,000, whatever it might be for a tattoo. What if you don't reach it? What are we gonna do? You're gonna have people come on? I'm tattooing my ass cheeks. If it's 9,500, not 10. Who would you tattoo on your ass cheeks?
Starting point is 01:55:10 Who would you like me to tattoo in my ass? He just said he was doing me and you. Yeah. For 10 Gs. For 10 Gs? Where were you? Well, we got to figure out the Patreon tears. And you got to label them and you got to put the price on it.
Starting point is 01:55:20 and then we can either do that or we can do donations live on YouTube on YouTube live. We're in. I mean, I'll promote it. Nobody watches my channel, but I'll promote it. Would the tattoo gun be mobile enough to put in here and like... It's wireless. Oh, it's wireless. You're okay with this?
Starting point is 01:55:36 I got bad, mine's battery. Okay. Oh, okay. I'm just making sure. Fuck yeah, dude. Yeah, it's not like a fucking giant. I'll get a tattoo live on the podcast if someone donates enough money. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:46 I'll tattoo you live on the podcast. I got to actually, I have a tattoo that I want to get already. So we could start with that one and then we can do other side ones for money. Yeah. A whore my skin out. Is it a blimp? Another blimp? No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Okay. What is it? You guys checked out my Instagram, yeah? My tattoo Instagram. Not recently, but I have seen it, yeah. Boziac conundrum. Anything new on there? The Boziac.
Starting point is 01:56:06 I have a whole new one. Oh, do you really? What's your new Instagram? Pull it up. What's called? Boziac. I NK? Boziac.
Starting point is 01:56:15 Dot I NK? Yep. Oh, yeah. I didn't follow that one. Um. It's tight. Anyways, what was I saying? I was thinking about earlier.
Starting point is 01:56:30 You did all these? Yeah. Sick. Yeah, it's all my work. What if on the moon, all these countries like Russia, China, and the U.S., we, like, established our own bases on the moon? The moon is so fucking tiny. It would be dope.
Starting point is 01:56:43 There's no borders on the moon. Yeah. So what the fuck would that look like? It would be straight up fucking battles and wars going on. Oh, yeah. There would be. That's like that movie with Brad Pitt. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:53 Astronaut. Yeah, exactly. And there was like the Wild West out there shooting at each other on fucking. How fucking insane is that? That was a great. That was a great fucking scene, right? They're fucking shooting at him. One guy gets his face blasted.
Starting point is 01:57:03 That's the dude that fell asleep when I was tattooing his face. That's him? Yeah. Damn, that guy's fucking psycho looking. Oh, what went wrong in his life of this guy? It's just like how bad was his childhood? Yeah, he was fucking, he was a character. But yeah, man, I did, I have been 10-old a long time.
Starting point is 01:57:23 Hell yeah. I like him. Thanks, man. Keep going. I'm thinking about trying to get into a shop out here in Tampa, Florida somewhere. There's a lot around here. A lot of Tampa, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:33 Yeah. If you guys know anybody, where do you live right now? I'm, like, out in, like, north Tampa, like, out towards Wesley Chapel. Okay.
Starting point is 01:57:40 This is better than fucking Lakeland where Matt Cox lives. Lakeland. I live in Wesley Chapel. Oh, I know you lived in Lakeland. My bad. Yeah, a little something,
Starting point is 01:57:55 something. I'm not like, I'm not like the baddest dude ever, but, you know, what I do, I try and do it super clean, so.
Starting point is 01:58:01 Yeah, those are dope. I like them. I need a boziac tattoo. Yeah, we need to get some Osiac tattoos, bro. I'm down, dude. I'll bring on my equipment next time. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:09 Dude, I was going to ask you, Matt, what do you think about, what do you think about, you see like, or you, what do you think about, you see shit like, putting people on the moon, fucking Elon shooting these rockets into space, trying to buy shit like Twitter. I mean, listen, those are power moves by fucking billionaires. Those are billionaire power moves. And then, okay, they're power moves, but even, even like, fucking. Mozart or or Michelangelo Salvador Dali the Empire State Building
Starting point is 01:58:41 Kanye West I'm dying to see how this comes together all of the most insane human innovations in the history of the world sure what if it's all just an elaborate mating ritual what
Starting point is 01:58:57 listen I have an hour and a half drive a mating ritual yeah what if it's like a peacock like a peacock has this fucking beautiful, broad, extravagant display of feathers. For breeding. All it is is to attract a mate.
Starting point is 01:59:11 What if all this crazy shit is that's all it is? It's just an elaborate fucking mating call that us monkeys do to impress other monkeys. To what? You have a point. No, to attract them fucking meat. You have a point at the very base level of everything is really... But we just come up with a backstory of meaning. We create our own backstory that has some elaborate meaning that we attach to it.
Starting point is 01:59:33 We're all just trying to get late. We're all just trying to fuck. to further the species on some like you're talking about like on some primal level. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Yeah. What do you think about that theory? That thinks it's funny. It's bullshit. I get it. It's bullshit. I, I,
Starting point is 01:59:48 I, on some level, I'm sure that that's a huge part of it. Or a part of it. Yeah. You know? What is that pyramid? We talked about the pyramid before where
Starting point is 02:00:00 the first part of the pyramid is just trying to kind of be safe. And then the next, the next higher level is to kind of, you know, you want security. Is that Maslow? And then, yeah, there's another level is like, you know, about having, like, future security. And the next level is kind of about your legacy. And the next level, you know, it's that.
Starting point is 02:00:17 Fuck that pyramid. What about that pyramid? I don't know anything about. I don't know, really know even the name of the first pyramid I was talking about. I think that's Maslow's hierarchy you're talking about. What is this guy doing? That makes a lot of sense. Can he pull that?
Starting point is 02:00:30 What are you pulling up the, what happened to the pyramid? We're talking to the pyramid. He doesn't pull anything up. Nobody's paying attention. All these people want to go home. The guy you're paying to work the switches. What about like the period?
Starting point is 02:00:44 He's done. Like all these fucking bots that live on Twitter. Like what percentage of tweets that you read are fucking are just bots? I was just erasing. I don't read tweets. Do the crypto people get into your comment section? Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:00:56 It's insane. Hey, I trade with John Johnson. Oh, John's wonderful. He made me hundreds of thousands of Oh, I know, John. He just cashed. Yeah. I go in there and just remove, remove.
Starting point is 02:01:11 Dude, it's insane. Whether it's crypto, whether it's politics, whether whatever it is, if you type out a certain thing and talk about a certain thing, whether it's politics or crypto, you're going to get all these fucking comments with the same fucking thing. There's so many fucking bots on Twitter. They say it comes from Russia. A lot of it comes from Russia. Well, there's a Russian farms.
Starting point is 02:01:27 What's that lady's name who did the... Ted Talk? No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's her name? Renee Doresta? talks about there's like even in Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia is one of the biggest what was it the king of Saudi Arabia or the kingdom of Saudi Arabia they were the biggest group that fought back
Starting point is 02:01:42 against Elon taking over Twitter they did not want Elon to take over Twitter because he's like all you know he wants to make it more balanced in China they have state sponsored hacking right where they just fund they buy buildings and they just pack it full of people that are on computers 24 hours a day trying to hack into everything in America everything they indicted a bunch of those guys yeah a ton of those guys they died it that's the problem
Starting point is 02:02:02 That's the problem with free speech on Twitter. Where do you draw the line? Like, what was the purpose of the free speech? What was the purpose of... Well, there isn't a line for free speech, right? There is. There is, because they have a community. They have community guidelines.
Starting point is 02:02:15 There's rules they have to follow. For who? Who are you talking about? For Twitter. For Twitter. For Twitter. Yeah. There's, like, it's supposed to be free speech, but the reason that they ban people is
Starting point is 02:02:24 for reasons, right? They're trying to avoid doxing. They're trying to avoid, like, real calls for violence on people. Yeah, I was going to say, I could see violence. I could see violence to me. Violence would really probably be the only thing that I could say, hey, look, you just can't advocate violence. Like, at that point, I'd be good.
Starting point is 02:02:41 And that was their ultimate reason for banning Trump, right? They're saying that he inside of the January 6th riots or whatever. Yeah, it would have to be pretty specific violence. You'd have to be pretty, for me to say, listen, we got a wife. You can't say that. Like, it would have to be pretty specific. Yeah, that whole thing was very vague.
Starting point is 02:03:01 The whole Trump ban shit was fucking wild, man. Like, if you think about it, dude, that's the wildest fucking shit ever. Of president getting banned from social media. Because that right there lets you know that the people who run these companies are part of, you know, a particular fucking agenda and a part of a particular fucking side of the political fucking. You know what I mean? Like, it's obvious. For sure. It's fucking straight, fucking obvious.
Starting point is 02:03:25 When something like that happens, it's like, okay, then there is an agenda and there is fucking some kind of, uh, ulterior fucking motive here. You know, and it's just like, what the fuck? That's insanity. That's pure fucking insanity. That that's happening. And the other, there's lots of other, like, Milo Unopoulos getting banned. The other person who got banned, I forget who it was, but some person tweeted a man is not a woman or something like that.
Starting point is 02:03:49 They got banned. Fired immediately. Suspended from Twitter permanently. It's crazy, man. This guy I know, this political commentator kid that posts a lot of shit on YouTube, Kyle Kalinsky he posted replying to some sort of political tweet from somebody like
Starting point is 02:04:05 mocking the dude and then posted that gif of the head exploding you know the gift from that movie it's like a it's a giff of like this guy with a clay head and his head just explodes and it's like clearly like clay fake animatron or like special effects and they
Starting point is 02:04:21 they fucking blocked it and suspended his Twitter profile saying that it was like depicting acts of violence or whatever but you can find a million other tweets using that same fucking GIF. But it's because this guy's like a left-leaning commentator or whatever. I mean, they enforce the rules when and how they want to on who they choose to, period. That's all part of it. It's all part of it. It's definitely suspicious. Like, like, the board trying to block Elon from buying it. Yeah. It's suspicious because what is he going to find? Like, is there something that he
Starting point is 02:04:51 could find that he would expose that goes deep, like really deep? I don't know. Maybe I don't even know if it's that deep. I think that they just, they don't, they don't want to, they don't want him to change what they got going on. They don't need that kind of ink on Sugar Mountain. You know what I'm talking about? They don't fucking, they don't fucking, they got, what they're got what they're trying to do. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:05:08 They got what they're trying to do, and he knows that they're, he's going to come in and he's going to just fucking fuck their shit up. He's going to cause chaos. Why would it matter when they're going to make all that money? I mean, his, the price that he offered for share. I don't think it's about the money. What is it about? It's about their agenda.
Starting point is 02:05:23 It's about their agenda. Yeah, it's about their agenda. Why is their agenda so much more important than making millions and millions of dollars? Because they're probably, because the people, Oh, and Twitter are already multi, multi, multi, multi, millionaires. They're already, you know, once you've got... The agenda is all part of it. So they think, like, so they think they have some agenda that is, that is so moral and so
Starting point is 02:05:39 just that it is more important to make... It might not be moral and just. Yeah, I wouldn't say it's an agenda. Maybe, in their opinion, they think so, yeah, but... In their mind, it must be. Yeah. Maybe. I mean, you understand, like, the difference between, if you have, like, you're worth two trillion
Starting point is 02:05:53 and you're worth $3 trillion, you do understand that it's not like you get a bigger car. Like, nothing really changed. There was a study done, and they said after about $70 or $80,000 or $170 or something like that $1,000 a year, your life doesn't really improve. Like your state of well-being, your means, it doesn't really improve up to that point. You know, so like a lot of these people, they're just not motivated by the money anymore. It's just not even about that. It's like they lived through some altruistic. They think that their view of the world is altruistic and that it's the one.
Starting point is 02:06:29 way. Push that on people. And yeah, it's a mental illness. It's a literal fucking mental illness. But it doesn't seem like it's, it doesn't feel like it's like, nah, we don't want them to do it. Our answer's no. Like, they panicked and went to an extreme to block it.
Starting point is 02:06:47 But, okay, so why say somebody that's more left-leaning and more liberal does the same exact thing and has no zero consequences? Or for granted, they do something even way crazier. Like they'll say something way fucking more wild than that. You know what I mean? They'll make some fucking kind of like some feminist will say fucking all white men need to die or all women need to abort male babies. And that's just fucking allowed to float around on Twitter. Those people don't get taken off.
Starting point is 02:07:14 But he says something that can be misconstrued and all of a sudden now he's down and fucking barred from the platform. Come on, man. Come on. It's a fucking obvious. It's obvious. Yeah, it is obvious. It's wild, man. There's so many different variables.
Starting point is 02:07:27 There's a lot of different. Like Saudi Arabia. And at the end of the day... What are you going to do about Saudi Arabia? What do you can't tell Saudi Arabia? They're not going to use bots and they're not going to ban people for saying shit. I mean, at the end of the day, it's a private corporation. It's not a public utility.
Starting point is 02:07:43 It's a private corporation that they can pretty much do whatever they want with their product. Whether, you know, and it's just because of the way things are, it's like the de facto public square for people to communicate. And it's like, what do you do? Didn't he say he wanted to take it private? He said if he bought it, he would take it private. What was the point of him taking it private? It's a publicly traded company now.
Starting point is 02:08:04 It's publicly traded, but he said he wanted to make it private. If he bought it, if he bought it outright, he would... He said that's the only way to fix it. Because then you wouldn't have to be beholden to your share members. Your shareholders. You're not beholden to your shareholders. You don't have to have a board of directors that keeps coming in and saying, look, we're not making money.
Starting point is 02:08:27 We have to do this. We have to do that. we have to do this if it's just a private owner. The board is the only ones that have the board. You're legally obligated to make money for your investors. You have to. Jack Dorsey, Jack Dorsey just tweeted something. He tweeted something crazy like two days ago or yesterday about the board of directors.
Starting point is 02:08:45 And he was saying how this is like some fucking crazy fraud movie that he's going through. It's like the board, what he's witnessed over the past 10 years in Twitter, he's like there has to be some sort of Hollywood thriller made about this because there's like these coups that are happening within the company. what did he say find the exact quote for what he said try the trick click the new york post one just jerk off takes cold showers everything he does Jack Dorsey rips keep going there is it what
Starting point is 02:09:14 yeah he said it's it's consistently been the dysfunction of the company Dorsey said later when he asked about another user he was allowed uh if he was allowed to say this he replied no um in another in another tweet Dorsey responded to the user who quoted the venture capitalist Fred
Starting point is 02:09:30 Destin is praising the Silicon Valley Prover Good boards don't Good boards don't create good companies But a bad board Will kill a company every time Keep going down
Starting point is 02:09:42 Big facts he said He said something about Like a Hollywood thriller And like coups happening Yeah I'm sure there's all kinds of Internal shit going on there People were fucking fighting it I'm really happy
Starting point is 02:10:00 Elon is joining the Twitter board He cares to even Well he didn't join the board Oh, that was the first tweet. That's when he said he was buying like 10% or whatever. And then he purposely didn't join the board because when you're a board member, you can't own more than 50% of the company.
Starting point is 02:10:16 Anyways. But he said there's like been a lot of fucking crazy shit happening on the inside of that company, whatever. And it's like he was really stoked on Elon doing it. Yeah. I mean, listen, I think it's a good move. But Elon doesn't have. He's got to figure out how to get that much money.
Starting point is 02:10:30 Dude, he's got a lot going on. Now he's trying to fucking take over Twitter and go to fucking Mars. How's he going to get 40 billion? How is he going to get $40 billion? How would he get $40 billion? You only have to get $50 what? You only have to get a certain percentage
Starting point is 02:10:42 and get some other guys to go along with him. He's got that and probably fucking in stock. And you fucking in Tesla stock. How much stock we have to sell to get $45 billion? That's a good question. How many soches do you need to get $40 billion? Oh, my. The population of a small country.
Starting point is 02:10:59 Yeah. Are we done? Are we done, Matt? Matt's fucking over it. I gotta drive an hour. I gotta drive an hour. Should we end it? Is there any conspiracy theories you do kind of believe in a little bit?
Starting point is 02:11:10 I mean, I don't. No. That I believe in are conspiracy theories. They're just true. Matt doesn't spend any of his time. Is there any interesting things out there? Maybe that could be true. Because I, you know, honestly, it's like I have.
Starting point is 02:11:26 What's the most important thing in your life, Matt? I mean, what do you mean? What's the most important thing in your life? I mean, to be happy. What makes you happy? I mean, spending time with my girlfriend makes me happy. Painting makes me happy. Writing makes me happy.
Starting point is 02:11:40 Why painting and writing? I like doing my podcast, you know? I like hanging out with people that I like hang out with. Number one is your girlfriend? Yeah. Number two is painting and writing. Yeah. Why the painting and writing?
Starting point is 02:11:54 Do you realize like working out is like not even on the top ten? I'm not talking about working out. I hate working out. I'm talking about like the reading and writing. Why do you like the painting and the writing? It's just, it's creative. It's like, you know, it's like... It's an expression.
Starting point is 02:12:08 Yeah. You just like to zone out? You ever mow your own yard? I love mowing my own yard. That's one of my favorite things to do. Yeah. No, is it? Really?
Starting point is 02:12:15 I love watching the TikToks. You send me some clips. I watch them on Instagram and on TikTok, the fucking guys who make these perfect fucking lawns. I could watch that shit. I didn't know any of this, by the way. I didn't know any of this. But what I always tell people when they're like... That's what I do late at night, I look at that shit.
Starting point is 02:12:30 Whenever people say like, you know, lawn porn. Do you like, whenever people say, like, do you like painting? And they're like, why do you like painting? Because I love when you kind of, when you're completely done and you step back and you look at it and you're like, wow, like I did that.
Starting point is 02:12:44 Like, look at that. Like I feel this great feeling, a feeling of fulfillment. Yeah, I dig it. And so, like, that's when you finish something, you're like, wow, I can't believe I did that. And whenever people are like, well, I don't really, I don't know what you mean. I always say, do you mow your own yard?
Starting point is 02:12:59 And then they go, Yeah, I do. How do you feel when you completely done, stop the mower, turn around and look. How do you feel? It's like a fucking Michelangelo. Right. It's great. It's a great feeling.
Starting point is 02:13:12 Like that's really, for someone who doesn't paint or write, they don't understand that. But if you say to your yard, they're like, or even paint a room. They're like, yeah, I know what you're meaning. I know what you mean. Because you don't get that doing someone's taxes. You don't get that doing someone's taxes. I don't think you get that if you work in the warehouse. No.
Starting point is 02:13:30 You know, but I don't even get that when I edit like a video. I was gonna say maybe, I was gonna say maybe it is. I was thinking maybe that would work, but no, it doesn't because it's fucking torture editing videos. I hate it. Yeah, it's long and arduous. And then when you're done, it's like, and you never really feel good. Like, like, you're staring at this fucking screen sitting in a chair. But when you edit one, when you're mowing a lawn, you're fucking out in the sun.
Starting point is 02:13:54 It's a clear, you're clearly done. You're getting exercise. You can have your headphones in listen to a fucking audio book. You learn. You get exercise, you get the vitamin D, and you're fucking creating this beautiful lawn. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds stupid. So fulfilling.
Starting point is 02:14:07 Zen. It's so fulfilling. Not only is Zen, but it's extremely productive. What about washing your car? You kind of get that washing. See, I think some people, I bet you some people get that washing their car. Some people are like, I hate that. I don't get that mowing the yard.
Starting point is 02:14:20 But most people, if you're lucky, you have something like that in your life. Yeah. Washing your car's close. I do it every week. I would do it twice a week if I had the need to. Yeah. When I was really obsessed with my car, when I was young, I used to do it every week. But see, I don't really like my car.
Starting point is 02:14:36 Right. You know, if I was driving a Lamborghini, I'd probably be like, he washes that fucker, you know what I'm saying? But now it's like, you know, today. If you were driving a Lamborghini, you wouldn't give a fuck. You'd just pay some kid to wash it. Yeah, Matt wouldn't. True. Wash his own car.
Starting point is 02:14:47 Even if it was a Lamborghini. I would watch. Get me a Lamborghini. Watch me. Let's find out. But then when we were painting and I threw that painting up on the hood of my car, I was like, it's great not giving a shit about your car. Like I wanted the sun to bake the painting to make it dry right away. I took it out and just popped them at the top of my car and walked back in the garage. But yeah,
Starting point is 02:15:08 but so yeah, I like painting. I like writing. I like painting. Especially right. And it's all about, it's all about, it's all about, like that Zen sort of accomplishment feeling. That's all about or is it is, is money involved in that at all? No, because I don't really make a bunch of money. You don't do it for money. I don't make a bunch of money doing like no one thing pays my bills. Like I make some money on books sales and I don't even push my book sales you know I make some money on painting I make some money on doing like commercials and and you know podcasts and things you know being interviewed and so I make a little here little here and luckily by then in the month I'm unable to pay my bills you know so and I'm and of course that's helping me try and put together some documentaries and work
Starting point is 02:15:49 on different projects and I'm hoping those projects end up you know end up being something and and making some money, but right now, I'm super happy. When you're writing, is it a similar process to the painting? Is it mindless? Or do you have to, like, sit there and, like, really think? No, it's, I, it's way different. Because I just, I'll, I'll sit there for two hours and write three sentences. And other times I'll sit down and I'll write two pages in an hour.
Starting point is 02:16:16 So it's just, it's just totally just, how structured is it? Like, how much work is it? Do you sit there and be like, hmm, maybe this sentence should be here? Maybe I should use this word instead. Do you sit there and think like, hmm, what word? Listen, I hit the fist all. I hit the synonym, synonym, synonym, synonym, synonym, therous, okay, what about this?
Starting point is 02:16:31 Then I go and, you know, it's... And this is writing, if you're working on a project, or is it just like writing, because it's a ritual just to write. No, I write almost every day now. Like, I didn't for months and months. What is your daily writing consist of? You know, just different stories that I'm working on.
Starting point is 02:16:45 Okay, so stories that you're working on. You don't just simply this write out thoughts or ideas or... No, no. Plus, you... Like, like, journaling or, like, like, like, journaling about what happened? It's always stories. It's always someone's story. Pete and I, my buddy, Pete, we've been working on something for, God, over what? Since I left prison, like two years, we've been working on a story about these guys,
Starting point is 02:17:10 the chip heist I told you about. And, you know, the Chinese guys that were robbing all these chip manufacturers and sending the chips back to China back in the 90s. But, you know, we've been working on that. I'm working on one about me being in prison. about a book I wrote in a lawsuit and getting out. And then there's, you know, and then I'm working on Jess's story right now because she's got actually a great story.
Starting point is 02:17:36 She just hates to talk about it. So I'm ordering documents and that sort of thing. So I'm always kind of working on, I get up early. I work for a couple hours. Sometimes I write three sentences. Sometimes it's a page. You know, if you do it a little bit every day, and then one day I'll turn around, I'll go, oh, my God, it's good.
Starting point is 02:17:53 I think it's done. I'll let a few people read it and I'll go, holy shit, I think this is done. Do you feel more creative about doing your, or more motivated to do your work after you go to the gym early? Or does that make a difference? No, that doesn't make any difference. I feel more motivated after I've had two cups of coffee. Two cups of coffee, yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:13 That feels awesome. What's up with your, don't you have some sort of like documentary coming out, John? Are they working on shopping some sort of show for you or something? Yeah. Yeah. What's up with that? They're just trying to get it all figured out right now. I was going to say I was waiting for like to me I'm always like they're they're signing this they're doing this like I know what's happening the whole way through and when I say to him and if you mention it to him he's like well take it forever well what's they what I'm like it takes time this is what happened yeah I get it I get it it's just one of those things where it's like you know you get to a certain point and then there's negotiations and then they get to another certain point and then there's negotiations and then there's more negotiations and then sometimes it gets fucking just saying
Starting point is 02:18:56 sit somewhere and doesn't do anything for four or five weeks and then all of a sudden you get a fucking text message and you're like okay we're moving on this we're moving on that so it's just like I don't know they didn't tie you up and make you like no it's no no it's definitely happening the wheels are turning uh things are happening uh you know so stuff's getting signed and schedule we watch the trailer or the sizzle they made no he'll go no you've seen you've seen it you know i've like no the guy that's doing it he'll go nuts do you understand that you understand that anything Fuck him.
Starting point is 02:19:28 No, yeah. Anything he posts, like they are all over him. Do my social media, if I post something that's even kind of like, can be considered sketchy, like racist or fucking anything? Anything they can take out of content.
Starting point is 02:19:42 The director gives him a call. They don't even call him anymore. They're done calling him because he argues. They call me. You got to call him, listen, I don't know. He's got to take that post out. I'm like, well, I don't. What post do they ask you to take down?
Starting point is 02:19:53 Quite a few. Yeah, there's been quite a few. And they never mean anything. Like the head. What was the head? One, I had like a giant clown head on my helmet, like head. Can we see this? Do you have it on your phone?
Starting point is 02:20:06 Yeah, I have it on my phone. But they were trying to say, oh, that's a racist. They were saying it looks like it's urine in blackface. But it wasn't. It's a clown head from, from, what's the name, Rob Zombie movie that happens to be, is the guy black or brown? It's just a brown head. It's not even, I don't think it's even, yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:26 So, no, take it down. It looks bad. It just doesn't look right. It doesn't look, it looks bad. That was the photo you posted. Yeah, I had to take it down. That's not the only one. There's been multiple ones.
Starting point is 02:20:37 I'll show you another one that I had to take down. Well, it's still up. Yeah, so. No, it's archive. Oh, it's archive. Yeah, I didn't take it out of archive. Right. Because I'm, it's going back up.
Starting point is 02:20:46 So they think the people that are trying to sell this fucking document. I had to take that one down too. Well, you know, bro, they're, they're, they're all. always concerned. Oh, because that's supposed to be, what's that supposed to mean? White power? White power?
Starting point is 02:20:58 I didn't know that. I do. This is what I do. Yeah, first of all, that's, that's not. It's a sign that they're taking and twisting.
Starting point is 02:21:06 Yeah. You know? Does that really mean white powers? I don't know. That's like me saying okay. You know? Yeah. That means white power.
Starting point is 02:21:13 Shut up. Yeah. So, you know, I don't know. Yeah. Everything is. What is the reason?
Starting point is 02:21:19 Do they explain to you why they want to do you? I'm under a microscope. Even. They don't want me to fuck up any potential. potential anything. To sell it to a Netflix. They don't want to be like, okay, because
Starting point is 02:21:27 they're going to tell somebody about me, the people are going to look into me. They're going to go to my Instagram and be like, wait a minute, what about this post right here? These executives, that these networks are super fucking sensitive. Right. Right. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 02:21:39 I'm like, well, they better not go and watch my fucking YouTube channel. Please post a Make America. You should award a Make America Great Again hat on this podcast. Oh, Nike's crucified for that. And that's not even really like, if I would do it, just to ruffle feathers, but that's not really. Right.
Starting point is 02:21:52 But the whole thing is like, the whole thing is like he's, he's not a racist person. These aren't racist things. They're like, yeah, but they could be construed as it's like, oh my God, are you serious? Yeah. It's not. Imagine how much that would fucking suck to have your whole livelihood based on these fucking, like, political ideologies. Yeah, so that's how I'm living right now. Oh, you should, and you should hear.
Starting point is 02:22:13 On our group chats. I can't. I go fucking. Go nuts. You understand our group chats? Like I say stuff like, like, like, I'm going to say one of them. mundane ones. They'll say, you know, hey, we're waiting for so-and-so to respond.
Starting point is 02:22:29 We sent them an email. We're waiting for the response. And I say, hey, listen, do you have this guy's address? Because I'll get a couple of Mexicans to go throw them in the trunk of their car, drive around for a couple of hours, duct tape them to a chair. We're in a group chat with like eight people that are working on this film. Right. Duck-dach him to a chair.
Starting point is 02:22:47 And then we'll have a conversation just to soften them up. Do you remember the one? And so, wait, wait. none of them respond he's laughing ha ha ha ha ha ha ha we're going back and forth like you understand
Starting point is 02:22:58 it's like it's like text text text tech tech and then I say that boom dead silent for like 15 minutes and then all of a sudden I just get like I'll get like he'll I don't want to say his name
Starting point is 02:23:10 I'll get like the emoji with just the big eyes like that what about what about the one where he's like terrified he's like okay that's so they sent us a picture of this dude and like we're pitching to this dude We're trying to get this guy signed on board. So I just dump on.
Starting point is 02:23:24 I do a quick Google search of the guy. Apparently he had some kind of wild fucking sex charges against him or something. No, no. It was that he had been sued by an assistant. What do they call? An intern, a female intern had sued him for sexual harassment. And I'm like, so I pull up the news article. This was just somebody.
Starting point is 02:23:43 They were pitching. They were talking to. Yeah, they were talking to him. And they're like, we're trying to get him involved. So then I sent the news article in the fucking in the thing. He goes, this is the guy. Right. Yeah, it's this guy, and then what you came on and said something about, oh, I came back and, oh, then they were like, oh, well, maybe we should reconsider talking to him. I guess it's not, you know, I guess we're not going to approach him. That doesn't sound like someone we want to deal with. And I go, well, wait a second. What did she look like? I said, let's not jump to conclusions here, bro. I said, this may have been a perfectly reasonable sexual harassment. I said, sometimes it's just good behavior. So I'm going back and forth.
Starting point is 02:24:21 Listen, he's, we're talking about it. That's like a phone call like, hey, listen, I, you know, those are the kinds of things that you say and a chat. And they come back to you five years later. Yeah. It's a joke. But then again, you know, we have nothing to lose. They work on huge projects with like these massive, you know, fucking multi-conglomeric. Billion dollar companies.
Starting point is 02:24:44 Like, they can't. Big time budgets and shit. They can't even comment. Yeah, people were getting fucked up over tweets from five years ago. so I can only, somebody publishes the whole chain of fucking chats that's going off. Yeah. Yeah. They're not stupid enough to comment.
Starting point is 02:24:58 We're, we're terrified them. Oh, yeah. I'm a loose cannon. They're fucking terrified of me just sinking this whole goddamn thing. Can you please just call him? Just call him. Oh, my God, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:12 They think I'm going to torpedo the whole thing before it even gets legs. So they're just trying to fucking, that's why I don't really post or like, I go crazy on my podcast sometimes. when I probably shouldn't about a lot of shit, but my social media, I kind of don't really, I don't really fuck around. That is. I don't want to shoot myself in the foot. I want to read some of those group chats.
Starting point is 02:25:34 Oh, it's funny. I was like, maybe we should get Harvey Weinstein involved. He fucking, I was like, he fucking gets bangers going. He would have had this thing built and released by now. Yeah. I started some Harvey in there. Oh, yeah, dude. They didn't like know that at all.
Starting point is 02:25:50 Oh, these fucking, and these are all, like, well-to-do. Their sense of humor is real dry. It's not like, you know, not like they're in the gutter like ours is, you know what I mean? Where are they all from? Where they all live? Upper crust, northeast. Like New York area? Something like that.
Starting point is 02:26:08 Yeah, that jet region, that region. All of them? I don't know. Actually, I don't really know to be complete. I think, I'm assuming, I'm making assumptions here, but I believe they're all from the northeast. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:18 Yeah. That's fucking weird. That sucks. that's why the rise of this independent shit is going through. Listen, I have an idea. Like I was going to actually talk to you about it at some point. Like I called up the director slash producer. I called him up and talked to him.
Starting point is 02:26:35 I said, listen, here's what happened. I go through the whole thing. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Immediately he went to. The problem with that is that we would be pitching that documentary to people that have longstanding relationships with that production company. And as a result, immediately started I'm like yeah but it's an amazing story.
Starting point is 02:26:52 He's like I and I and it is I'm like the B roll you can use and the people they're involved in this and I can get everybody lined up and it's like and I understand that the problem is getting the money to do this and then you ask him to place it on a platform that they buy from that production company and then they they will have issues with that like political like it becomes super political and I'm like yeah but it's all true it's like it's irrelevant that it's true I'm like yeah but this is what happened and he's like that doesn't matter like it doesn't matter that it's an amazing story and it's all 100% true it's no it could damage their relationship with this company and this company it was like fuck yeah it's just this giant
Starting point is 02:27:26 everybody's in bed right bureaucracy right it is man it's like you the youth it's like the fucking government so i mean i immediately started thinking well who who do i know like i basically need to get somebody that would go against the grain my first person was i was like but danny's disgusted as i am well he was disgusted years earlier yeah you know oh my god Daniel, film it for you. We're in a group chat with a group of friends. And I was really, he said something really funny there. They were talking about Kyrie Irving.
Starting point is 02:27:57 You know how like Kyrie Irving's like, you know, he didn't want to get vaccinated. So like, you know, obviously there's fucking two opposing views of Kyrie. Everyone who says, oh, freedom, the crazy fucking people. Like, I love, Tucker loves Kyrie Irving. And, you know, all the, all the super woke people who love vaccines, I think Kyrie's in the fucking idiot. And we're just in a group chat with somebody. She's like, they're big LeBron fans.
Starting point is 02:28:22 And Kyrie and LeBron, they're obviously, like, going at it. They're not, like, super close anymore because Kyrie talks shit about LeBron. They're both on opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to that shit. Yeah. Kyrie and LeBron is just, like, left and right, kind of. And one of the people in the group chat was, like, the only reason I would like Kyrie is if he went back and played with LeBron and he shut up and didn't say a word. never opened his mouth. And Shane responded, he goes, so
Starting point is 02:28:51 he should shut up and dribble. There was a big, uh, silence after that. Dude, it was fucking great. I didn't do it justice, but if you were watching the group chat, you had to be there. You had to be there.
Starting point is 02:29:05 Yeah, you had to be there. It was great. But, um, where was I going with that? I don't remember. Kyrie Irving. What were we talking about before that? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:29:16 Filming a movie or whatever. Yeah, and vaccination. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Something to do with vaccination. Yeah. Anyways, we'll make your documentary, Matt. Film it concrete style. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:30 What about our other idea that we had? Bro, do you have any idea how much time that would require? I mean, honestly, I'm, like, struggling, like, just to pay my bills at this point. I need to, like, I need some time to figure this out. We got to do it, man. I mean, yeah, can't we just boost somebody's content? I mean, can't we just take somebody's content and redo it? Plus, you know how much research it takes?
Starting point is 02:29:54 Yeah. I mean, it's outrageous the amount. Or get me the, that guy, listen, I don't even know how much that guy really. I think he may just be ad limbing some of the stuff. Like, you're talking about we have to get, we have to get footage of the people. You got to go get the footage of them. Then you have to kind of go through it piece by piece and break it apart. We're not a psychiatrist.
Starting point is 02:30:16 I mean, I don't really know. That guy's channel is fucking amazing. I've already forget the name of it. I've watched it. What's the guy's name again? Did he stick? No idea. Didn't stick with you.
Starting point is 02:30:24 I forgot the name of his channel. It's the guy that he, he, what's he do? He breaks down, like, these criminal interviews. So, like, they'll show, like, the fucking, for example.
Starting point is 02:30:37 Is he like a psychologist? For example, the guy who shot the movie here. I don't think he, initially, he sounds super confident, right? Like, you really think he's, first he tells you a little bit about, I'm sorry. Sorry.
Starting point is 02:30:47 No, go ahead. First, he tells you a little bit about the case. Like, you know, like 15 students were shot, blah, blah, blah. Then they caught him or then they caught the kid, and then they get him into the room. And at this point, you can tell he's acting normal. He knows he's concerned. You can see the concern when he does this, when he does it. And he kind of just talks about what he's doing.
Starting point is 02:31:07 Then he says, however, once the detective walks in the room, notice how he immediately, you know, appears to be, you know, riddled with anxiety. stress, how he suddenly starts talking to. You know, he's basically saying how he's faking it. Right. He's faking, being crazy or whatever. And then when he leaves. So he got to break, and he keeps stopping the video and explaining and then letting the video go and then stopping it, letting it go.
Starting point is 02:31:30 We got to figure out the name of this guy, Austin. So it ends up being like an hour to two hour long thing where he really breaks down the whole thing. But I watched one the other day that Danny sent me. And the more I thought about it, I thought, you know, he's not using any technical terms. He's just really saying what he thinks is happening. So I'm like, I was like, how much real research do I have to do? Right, right.
Starting point is 02:31:54 I mean, what I really just need is the videotape. Like, where's the videotape? And why is this person being interviewed? So one of his most popular videos is a guy who had just got done murdering, like, his whole family. And he's sitting in the interrogation room with the fucking guy. He's handcuffed to the fucking table and the guy's interrogating him. And he's like, he's like, fucking like going like this, like,
Starting point is 02:32:15 like, like, making it. making these weird hand movements and acting like he's insane. And the moment the fucking cop walks out of the room, this is it. JCS, criminal psychology. What was,
Starting point is 02:32:26 what does JCS stand for again? I forget. It's like Jimmy something. Oh, what's her name? The one that stabbed her. So, yeah,
Starting point is 02:32:38 go to go to videos. Go to videos. Find out of his top video. That one right there. Yeah, click that one. Jody Ayres. 61 million views.
Starting point is 02:32:47 Fuck. All of his videos. videos are like this in the last six in seven or eight months watch this that's the Colorado dude look at him was a left-handed shooter the surveillance at the school would confirm this and if you pay close attention to the movements of his hands in the next moments although very subtle you can see that he's reimagining holding his weapon but what's more telling is how his demeanor abruptly stops and then completely
Starting point is 02:33:27 switches right before he looks in the direction of the camera he goes from holding a rifle and beginning to smirk to then pretending to cry and reverting back to his suicidal mannerisms. This all occurs at under four seconds. What? It could be assumed that for a brief moment, he was not only recollecting the attack, but gaining gratification for doing so.
Starting point is 02:34:05 He's just giving his observations. A lot of assumptions. Right. Living the attack and enjoying his work, while his false self was so dejected to the point he was externalizing suicidal thoughts, complete opposites. What?
Starting point is 02:34:33 His next calculated charade is one of self-harm. He first bites himself without drawing blood or leaving any marks that were visible in his jail intake photographs. What the fuck? They pretending to chew his wrist off. He then scratches and squeezes at the two needle punctures in his arm from where his blood was taken at the hospital. At the very moment the detective re-enters the room, he will act as if he's desperately trying to conceal his self-injurious behavior. Alright.
Starting point is 02:35:09 Setting aside the glaring contradiction that he just murdered and maimed dozens of people while leaving himself without so much as a scratch, it's a the frequency of these little charades that makes their deception so transparent. This is a person who is not self-injurious pretending to be someone that is. But it's such a feeble attempt at feigned self-harm. It would almost be a Anyways, that's good. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:31 So he breaks down the psychology of all these fucking crazy people that, like, commit heinous crimes and murders. And they have fucking insane views, and they just got, like, I don't know what happened. And his channel's still up, but he got, like, a vast majority of his content.
Starting point is 02:35:47 got taken down by YouTube for Casey Anthony videos got 25 million views Yeah bro it's insane But they took it down saying it was It was too violent But there's no fucking violence They're just showing the people in the interviews Which is insane
Starting point is 02:36:01 And people are losing their shit about it Because they're obviously a lot of people love this guy's channel Yeah the problem is Where do you find the videos How do you know Right and you know I'm not a psychiatrist But I mean I get the if they're con men and and if it's if it's like white collar crime that would be perfect for someone
Starting point is 02:36:21 like you but where do you get those videos like that's the question that's the thing yeah it's not it's not going to be easy well but i mean i understand but i mean at this point in my financial you know uh well we can't afford it that's always crying about being broke i yeah yeah i am i am meanwhile he's making a seven hundred dollars a month on patreon congratulations by that's great Cha-ching. That's fucking amazing, man. Just under 7-100.
Starting point is 02:36:49 Listen, bro. I'm proud of you. I've got my different tears. When I had Brett Johnson in here. I'm giving away paintings. When I had Brett Johnson in here, he was telling me, so this Matt Cox guy, soon we finished recording, he goes, this Matt Cox guy. I've had dozens of people telling me that I got to get Matt Cox in a room and we got to record together. He was telling me.
Starting point is 02:37:13 I told him already. You did? When I seen him on Lex Friedman, and I was like, oh my God, this guy's coming out of the woodwork doing interviews again. I was like, dude, Matt, we got to get him on the podcast. Yeah. And then you, you have his contact info. Yeah, I do. He was just here the other day.
Starting point is 02:37:28 Yeah. Cool. We got to set it up. That'd be weird. That'd be weird fucking getting him on the fucking podcast. Have you met him before? No. No, I haven't.
Starting point is 02:37:35 What about the counterfeiter? Oh, dude, his video's blowing up. Oh, no. Yeah. Jeff. His video's bawling out. I love the comment. I think it's because of the comments.
Starting point is 02:37:44 I think the only reason. that video is one of the main reasons is doing good because how fucking dumb I was on the podcast I came in like after a whole full day of drinking. It was on a Sunday. You totally didn't, didn't even It was a last. First of all, first of all, I was fucking hammered
Starting point is 02:37:59 drunk because I was drinking the whole entire day. Matt Cox calls me at like, what time did you call me? Oh, it was probably two or three o'clock and I was like, what are you doing? Yeah. You don't meet a lot of counterfeiters. Like you just, even in federal prison, I probably met three or four.
Starting point is 02:38:15 the whole time. Like, and he knew, and it's funny because you know when he starts talking, you know what he knows. You immediately know he knows what. I don't know what else he's talking about, but when he starts talking about counterfeiting, you're like, oh, this motherfucker counterfeited some money. Like, you know he knows.
Starting point is 02:38:32 Oh, yeah. Like, half the stuff may be insane what he's talking about, but the moment he starts talking about credit cards and making credit cards, you're like, oh, yeah, no, no, okay. I don't know about all that other. Go on. I don't know about the moon landing thing. but you you can make a card
Starting point is 02:38:47 so yeah I was no preparation it was like two hours notice for the podcast and I was drunk and I just walked in and I I was a fucking moron on the podcast I've asked a guy the same question twice within like
Starting point is 02:39:00 then people I'm sure people went nuts oh if you just read the top comments that's just it's just fucking shits down my throat this guy is carrying the podcast on his back he explains things well and speaks objectively interviewer is a straight up fool
Starting point is 02:39:14 300 like on that comment Oh god Dude you get crucified in the comment section though Listen you sent a fucking comment to Matt the other day That somebody had fucking a long winded one Oh my god dude It was the greatest thing ever It said something like the one line that I just sticks out to me
Starting point is 02:39:33 That most that I remember from it said that Why are you giving this guy a platform Because he said what do you say Oh oh it's shitting on Matt God damn it dude I forgot what they said now Something about he um I love sending Matt the comments that just fucking roast him because they're mostly roasting me. He reads 400 comments.
Starting point is 02:39:51 He finds one that's the one I'm sending to him. What about the other $3.99, Danny? Well, those are common. That was a great one, though. The last one you sent him was fucking phenomenal. What did it say about Matt? Dude, they were pissed. They were upset that Danny was giving Matt a platform.
Starting point is 02:40:09 This snitch piece of garbage, low-life scumback. Why would you give someone like this a platform? doesn't deserve to live. What about his victims or something? Blah, blah, blah. It's just like... He said, this guy's willing to take advantage of anyone. He deems less important than himself to pad his fucking criminal bank account.
Starting point is 02:40:25 And I'm like, you said it to me. Damn. And the whole time, I was reading it going, it's pretty accurate. I mean, I don't like his characterization. They were so mad, dude. The delivery sucked, but it was pretty accurate. I think it was quite eloquent how they wrote it. I...
Starting point is 02:40:44 It was great. It was well put together. I was like, damn. It was beautifully articulated. It was beautifully articulated. Yeah. I think he could have been nicer. That's fine.
Starting point is 02:40:55 Anyways, we just did three hours. Awesome. I think, uh, let's wrap her up. Cut it. John, plug your shit. Yeah. Um, yeah, man. Just, uh, come to my, come to my Instagram account at Slumby Nature on Instagram.
Starting point is 02:41:09 And, um, if you want to buy any paintings from me, you can do so there also. tune into my Instagram account and go ahead and hit the subscribe button. That's Bozziat Conundrum podcast on YouTube. I'm doing a lot of good things over there now, and shit's just only going to get crazier. So, yeah, subscribe, subscribe, subscribe. My channel's growing like a motherfucker right now, you know. My views are going crazy.
Starting point is 02:41:33 You know, subscribers, like I said, I'm getting, you know, by the fistful every day. Hell you. Yeah. Let us know in the comments if you guys are down to see Matt or John do some tattoos live. Yeah, and, you know, I'm still down for the ass cheek tattoos, too. If we can hit that 10K, we can hit that 10,000 mark. I think that would be great. You want to read Math Comment?
Starting point is 02:41:54 Just the title of it is great. This is great. Please stop giving the mega-dush Matthew Cox a platform, five stars. I love Concrete Podcasts. I love Danny. He chooses fascinating subjects and speakers. He leads fascinating conversations. But for the love of God,
Starting point is 02:42:13 And all that is holy, please stop giving mega-dush cocks a platform. I don't care how extroverted, animated, and able to carry a story the guy is. He's a jailhouse snitch and a self-serving human being that literally took advantage of people he deemed less important than himself in order to steal their identities. pad his in pad his illegal bank accounts and evade the FBI. Then he has the sack to talk about it openly to anybody listening. The guy's a sociopath and doesn't deserve a do-over or a public platform to peddle his tales of illegally gotten clout shamelessly. He deserves nothing less than to be a de-platformed and shunned into obsecurity for the rest of his. miserable jailhouse snitch
Starting point is 02:43:08 existence. That is all. Clip that. I am clipping that and putting that all over social. That's awesome. That was awesome. Well done. If you are watching this right now, well done.
Starting point is 02:43:24 What's that guy? Tell us what the guy's username is on YouTube. If that's you, please comment. We'll send you some free merch for that. We'll send you. This guy, please leave a comment on this podcast with your email address and we'll get in touch and we're going to send you a shitload of free stuff. What is his name? It's the last
Starting point is 02:43:41 review, right? Latest reviews, 9 doesn't have his name on name. Oh, oh, this was on a YouTube comment. Oh, 24 days ago by This was a comment on Apple Podcasts. Oh, on Apple Podcasts. It was a review on Apple podcasts. It wasn't on YouTube. The snitch really hit the bone
Starting point is 02:44:01 That was like the core of the message. You were a snitch and he found a really articulated way to just shit on you. I mean, you know. Mega douche, Matthew Cox. Mega douche, Matthew Cox. He said then he's got the sack to talk about it. Anybody is willing to listen.
Starting point is 02:44:19 You hear, this is another one, Danny said. These are what Danny sends me. Grimy, I love it. Been listening for nearly six months. I've never seen a photo of Matt, but I always pictured him as a bald guy. Now I get it. He's just little. God damn.
Starting point is 02:44:36 I mean, they're fucking brutal. They're absolutely brutal. Those are good, man. We should save all those and make like a little book out of them or something one day. Oh, we should make like a table, like a like a like a like a like like a talk table book. Yeah, 10 years of comments. They're just fucking classics. All the best ones.
Starting point is 02:44:53 Yeah. That would be beautiful. Mm-hmm. And we could sell them. Listen, you could go through. You could go through all of all of soft white underbelly, Vlad TV. You can go through value tape. I mean, because they all have them.
Starting point is 02:45:05 Yeah. And, you know, you could. Oh, God, what's his name? What was the guy? The Big Herk. Oh, Big Herks. Like, you go through all those channels. There are some people that are not happy with me.
Starting point is 02:45:16 Oh, yeah. Yeah. I like to say that they just don't really know me. Probably. I just got to get to know him. He's a great guy. Just like the Joker. I wonder why the guy's picture you as bald.
Starting point is 02:45:29 He said, I never saw a picture of Matt, but I always thought he was bald. The last part when I read it I just fucking died laughing And the worst thing I was laughing And I thought Jail How it's snitch existence Oh God
Starting point is 02:45:43 They were pissed Yeah the snitch really hits a bone with some people They really upset about that Yeah Oh but Belford just did Vlad And he talks about it
Starting point is 02:45:54 Ask him about him About you? No about cooperating Belfort And he goes all into it What does he say He says basically the same thing you said Well what's funny is he explains
Starting point is 02:46:04 that he says, look, he said, did I cooperate? He goes, yeah, I, I cooperate. He's like, I wore a wire, and he said, I wore a wire on a couple people. He said, nobody said anything that really, really incriminated themselves. He said, and I knew everybody was going to cooperate, and I was going to have to testify anyway. So I wasn't concerned. He said, and be honest with you, said, you're looking at 20, 30 years. He said, everybody on Wall Street cooperates.
Starting point is 02:46:26 He said, then he said, they had me go to my best friend, which was a guy named, I think his name was Danny. and he goes to Danny and he said you know and I was like Danny definitely had done some things like I knew it was going to be bad he said so I slipped him a note that said I'm wired don't say anything to incriminate yourself and he goes and he took the note and he said okay so we had a conversation he didn't say anything he said three months later they had indicted Danny for other reasons nothing I had done he said and the agent comes and bangs on my front door and he said
Starting point is 02:47:04 And holds up the note Oh Damn like I kept the note Yeah and he said Yeah he said He said and what Danny did As soon as they indicted him Was he cooperated against me
Starting point is 02:47:12 He said right then No way I lost my He was my faith in humanity He said And I enthusiastically Cooperated against everyone since then And he you know
Starting point is 02:47:23 He was like yeah And that was it How did they get the note? Because when he gave it to Danny Danny Anyway, he was like, listen, Belford, this, Belford, that boom, he always kept the note. I mean, yeah. He said, yeah, he said, and then he went on, he said, and be honest, he said, I got lucky that the agent liked me and didn't push for them to give me a bunch of time.
Starting point is 02:47:48 He ended up getting, I think, 18 months or four years, and he ended up doing 18 months or I forget exactly what it was. But he explains the whole thing. He breaks it down. And so, anyway, that's on Colby sent me that and said, bro, you've got to do a video. on this, on Belford. You know? So, I thought... Yeah, you need a reaction video. I can't wait to see it. Yeah. I thought it was funny.
Starting point is 02:48:10 Cool. Matthew, where can we subscribe to your Patreon and buy your paintings and your books? I mean, Patreon. All on Patreon. Patreon.com slash Inside True Crime. Is it? Maybe it's just Matt Cox. I don't know. I'll send you the link. But yeah, yeah, there's different tiers. And I have a YouTube channel, and it's called Matt Cox's Inside True Crime. And yeah, that's a... Yeah. And I sell painting.
Starting point is 02:48:32 paintings. Perfect. And Boziak's got a bunch of paintings. Yep. Yeah, please buy my painting. Nipsey. DM Boziak about the Nipsey Hustle painting and the Daffy Duck doing cocaine. Hell yeah. Good night, everybody.

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