Danny Jones Podcast - #139 - The King of America's MAGA Movement | Forgiato Blow

Episode Date: May 30, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:09 of Magaville. Magaville. Magaville. What's up, man? Thanks for coming back. It's been a while. Yeah, I've seen you guys
Starting point is 00:00:16 and elevated and blown up. Yeah, same with you, bro. Congrats on all your success lately. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. You've been,
Starting point is 00:00:22 especially that vice article. That was hilarious. How did that... That vice article just came out like last month, didn't it? Yeah, they said the mayor of Magoville
Starting point is 00:00:32 is a white rapper. You know, they had to put the white on. Did they tell you before they did that that they were going to shit on you in the whole article? No, but I do think the article for them coming already known that they were going to write something super negative being, you know, left.
Starting point is 00:00:47 They did pretty good, I felt. They twisted a couple things around that I didn't really like, but, you know, it's media. You're going to get what you get. So it's a pretty big publication, so I wasn't really tripping on it. But they kind of already come out and you could tell from just being around someone who doesn't really represent the same things you represent or feel the same way you feel. You can get that vibe. You know, we're in the studio making these songs. I can see, like, somebody rolling their eyes.
Starting point is 00:01:09 You know? How many songs are you making a week? Like, what are you doing like right now as far as like your daily kind of schedule? Are you just recording music every day? Well, yeah, I just kind of like, you know, in this lane, you really got to watch the news. You know what I mean? You really kind of find out what's going on in the world. What do you watch?
Starting point is 00:01:27 I watch CNN to hear what they're talking about, watching Fox News, watch a lot of podcasts, you know what I'm saying? You guys got to stay hip to what's going on because it's a trendy lane. So the music has to be trendy a little bit. You know, you got to kind of pay attention what's going on, but I'm recording pretty much every night. I record songs every day, sometimes 10 a day, 20 a day. I mean, I record a lot of music. Last year I dropped 10 albums.
Starting point is 00:01:49 You are like one of the few, like you just mentioned that there's a bunch of them, but one of the few like hyper political rappers. Yeah. Like a lot of people, especially hip-hop fans, they're not really into fucking politics. You know what I mean? They're afraid. Yeah, they're afraid to be open with it. See, everybody's fake independent.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Afraid or like they don't like, like me, I fucking hate politics. Like, I don't, it's so hard to understand it. There's so many things. There are certain people that don't are afraid to get attached to it and lose the fans or lose what they got. Yeah. You know what I mean? Right. A lot of people are afraid to protect their brand.
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Starting point is 00:04:11 You know? Was there ever time in the beginning where you were scared for that? No, I wasn't scared because I'm just running with it. I'm just running with it. I was running with Trump in what I believe in no matter what. Just be who you are.
Starting point is 00:04:20 So I was rocking with Trump in the very beginning of 2016. I had the very first pro-Trump song. People said, oh, it's career suicide. I did a video of Rick Ross after that. Scoot that thing out a little bit close. Recently just did a video with Kodak Black, you know what I'm saying? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:36 People can't tell. you what you're going to do or your outcome's going to be. He's got to get in there and make a shake, you know what I mean? Yeah. At what point did you decide to like kind of rebrand your persona like around Trump? Well, it was kind of like in 20. And how did you come up with that? In 2016, I came out as like, you know, Trump's nephew that was like, you know, the first video we did came in on the helicopter with Trump in the ground. It's just the way you give it to people is crazy. You know what I mean? So most times on social media, if you see a post that would be on a blog site, you know, you're paying for blog posts and shoutouts to build your brand, it would usually like at your name.
Starting point is 00:05:11 So the second time around when I put out Silver Spoon compared to all my different releases, I said, don't tag my name. Like make this look like you're just going to shit on me. Like make this look like that you want to share this and you're cracking the case and you've got information nobody got. Donald Trump has a nephew with face tattoos that wraps. Check this out. This is crazy. And when it's read like that without being tagged, people got to really dig into it because
Starting point is 00:05:36 they're like, well, this isn't a sponsored post. Yeah, they're going to see who that is. So it's kind of like, you know, I flipped the game on them, got it out there. But at first it was with Trump was, I felt like I was a Donald Trump a rat. You know, everybody was supporting me. Everybody was rocking with me. Everybody saw the big features. They saw the lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:05:53 But they didn't want to give my flowers. I felt like Trump. Everybody loved Trump. Everybody was down with Trump. Every rapper was rapping. Like they're a boss like Trump, get money like Trump, going to his hotels, watching the boxing matches. is everybody was a big fan of Trump. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Then he said, going to be the president, and everybody laughed. So they'll never happen. Then he became the president. And then everybody started hating on Trump. I hate Trump. He's racist.
Starting point is 00:06:15 He's this. Trump's did more for the black African American community than any president ever has. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Trump said it's all types of stuff for the minorities. He's did all types of stuff for all types of people. And, you know, people loved him at one time.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And then when he got his shine, you know, they hated him. So I felt like that in rap with me. Then as I really started getting into the music, in 2016 and really learning about, you know, the political aspect of it, I realize that they just don't, the government is not going to ever tell you something you're supposed to know. You know, we pay for, you know, people getting cancer treatment, diabetic treatment, but a vaccine's
Starting point is 00:06:51 free. If a vaccine was really going to save you, it wouldn't be free. It would cost money. Right. You know what I mean? The stuff that they kick us isn't true to me. And I've always been someone to, you know, file my own way. So I scheduled a lot of things around Trump.
Starting point is 00:07:03 People love Trump. Trump's a winner. I'm a winner. I'm a hustler. I'm an entrepreneur. I'm a businessman. So there's no money better. I appreciate you taking the vaccine before you came in. I did. They said I had to get the vaccine, man. I got that fake vaccine card. Yeah, we're giving about a time out next door. Trudeau's people over in Canada, send them over to me. When did you get that Rolls Royce? I had a couple of roles. Is that a phantom or is that a ghost?
Starting point is 00:07:25 That's a ghost. A ghost. A rabbit with a Richie Rich with Trump's nephew on the front. You know, I got the big Trump truck. I got a couple cars, man. But the end of the day is like, all my stuff's branding. You know what I mean? I brand everything I got. It's all a business. A lot of people these days make excuses why they can't win. You know, I got out all the way to, you know, Lincoln with Trump, being on stage around him, flicking it up, taking photos, getting support from all these people. I got face tattoos. You know what I mean? I don't look like the normal Republican to them. Yeah. They let me in. They were so judgmental. Why am I going to get in? You think rap music is what did it for me? They're
Starting point is 00:07:57 probably to listen to rap music. So one thing I really did is I turned my fan base into 40 and 60-year-old people at Marlargo riding around bump before you out of blow. You know what I mean? But I cleaned a lot of things up too because at one time I didn't realize how many children listened to me. That was kind of thing with vice. They made it seem like, you know, Blow had no success in this early rap career. I mean, I got songs of Rick Ross before that, Paul Wall before that, vanilla ice before
Starting point is 00:08:24 that, a little dirt before that, millions of views, videos in the, I mean, that's success. Radio stations playing my music, you know, but that was like my thing with Trump. they're not giving me my flowers so I'm going to make my own lane, my own genre and people said it was career suicide now there's two, three hundred people doing the same thing trying to do what I was doing. You know, another big name, Bryson Gray,
Starting point is 00:08:45 you know, he was somebody who really did his thing. He had some really big songs. We came together and kind of like took off from there with the music and it's like, it's got to stay up to date. My thing is I'm in the streets with the Patriots like the people. Anytime you see a blow video,
Starting point is 00:08:59 there's hundreds of people in the video. These aren't paid actors. These are patriots that feel the same. same way I feel. They respect what I'm doing. That's why I'm the mayor of Magaville. I say, hey, I'm doing a video tomorrow. They ran a shine.
Starting point is 00:09:09 They're out there with me. And that's the difference. Before, everybody was just trying to come to a video and get something at it. They were a rapper too. They wanted a rap. These are just everyday people, not even the wealthiest people in the world. They're spending their last $20, $30 on a T-shirt for me and a hat to be in my video. So I got a lot of love and I respect them for what they're standing for.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Because, you know, no matter what about the money, Trump isn't paying these people. Right. The elections passed a year and a half ago, and people are still out here as rallies are popping. Trump's still popping. Yeah, he's still the president. And we don't see 46. It's not real. How much censorship are you dealing with on social media?
Starting point is 00:09:45 The censorship is beyond crazy. One thing is, like, I never realize how bad censorship was until you're censored. So sometimes you just hear people say, like, I'm getting shadow banning censored, and you're like, you just ain't popping. Or, you know, you ain't grinding hard enough, or you just think you're better than you are. Well, when they just delete 250,000 followers without an email or a reason and you'd pay Instagrams wiped, then you're like, well, maybe I'll hit somebody up when nobody knows you existed. I got a verify page. Not to mention I'm spending 30,000 or 40,000 at that time a year in ads on Facebook and Instagram.
Starting point is 00:10:20 You're spending that much on ads on Instagram? So I put out a picture or a post. So anytime I put a picture up, I throw $500 to $1,000 on that post just to get it going. get kind of what people see it. Wow. So not saying that's a lot of money at the end of the year, but imagine if you deleted, there's a lot of money. You deleted, you know, a couple hundred thousand people that were spending 40 grand a month
Starting point is 00:10:41 with you, I mean a year. So I was spending, you know, getting my brand built doing that with the Ford Giala Blow. And that's what I was doing like the flow parties. And I was doing like, you know, I had the crazy hair styles and the shows, is getting that attention. So then they banned me from that, took my Facebook down from me. Then a year to day. date, I'm 10 Instagram's already gone. So it's like someone working an Instagram to seize me
Starting point is 00:11:05 building my page whenever it gets to about 10,000, wipe it. Why do they wipe it? They tell you? No, they don't give me no emails or nothing. I literally just paid someone $7,000 a day in London that I have no clue who they are. Ask my boy, Tony. I just went to the bank and sent someone $7,000 a day to try to get one of my Instagram's back. Really? That's how bad I need my pages back because the end of the day, I'm independent. I don't have a label. I do this all myself. So every follower that I get is a fan of supporter, someone that's helped support my dream, my business. Once you take that from me, people get tired of trying to find you.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yeah. And then not everybody's always on social media looking for you. So once you're gone, they try to get you gone. So I've stayed relevant. My numbers have gotten bigger without my social media. So sometimes being banned helped a little bit because you might see my video come across a timeline and say, well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:11:56 I'm going to share a little bit because I know he's deleted and help him out a little bit. And the problem is when you get deleted, we all know. People in your own camps or do the same lane you're in, they enjoy that. So not everybody's like, oh, concrete got deleted. What's going to share their page? They're like they're deleted. It's time for us to do our thing.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Take it over that spot. Because they feel like your competition? A little bit is competition and everything. So it's very getting an only person really that shots me out, my boy, Bryson Gray and my brother Stoney, J-360. But I'm saying a lot of other people when I get deleted, I'll even hit them up. Like, y'all, I throw you some money to get me a post.
Starting point is 00:12:29 to let people know where I'm my new page and they'd be like oh I doesn't need any money and or they'll be afraid to share you because oh you got deleted so you're going to get me deleted you know it just becomes hard getting censored um it's hard to build your brand it's hard to keep any business going i mean imagine having a McDonald's and painted black and blue and with no arch in the front and then people know that's macdonalds yeah you know or like people say like why you still got to run ads and commercials on social media if you're already famous and pop it Well, there's a McDonald's and Chick-fil-A ads every day on TV. It's about keeping it in their face.
Starting point is 00:13:02 So the censorship really hurts. What about Twitter and YouTube? Have you ever had Twitter? I mean, obviously you have YouTube. I've never been big into Twitter. I have a Twitter. Does it get fucked with? I don't even put on it, man.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Just the outlook of the... I like Instagram. I like seeing the videos. I like going through. But then Instagram made it so hard. It's like you can't see what likes people got anymore. Well, they did that because, you know, people were just capping on all their stuff buying all these fake likes, buying all these fake followers.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Just a bunch of robots, you know what I mean? But Twitter, I've posted on there, and it's just like I just post like a status. It's like I don't really get to see much of anything. I didn't like it like that. True social is pretty big now. I'm not sure if you guys are on there. I'm at like 25,000 on True Social in two weeks on my page. Really?
Starting point is 00:13:46 Trump and them made it. They verified me ASAP. I was one of the early people on there. So that was cool. You know, so pretty soon when that opens up to everybody, every Democrat and their mom is going to be on there too. because they want to be where it's popping. They want to see what's going on. There's going to be a million troll Trump pages or troll Forgey Auto page.
Starting point is 00:14:02 If you go on TikTok, I got like 250,000 followers on TikTok. And if you type in my name, Forge the Auto Blow, there's over 150 pages. No way. And I'm just buried in those pages. You're buried under all the fake pages. Yeah, because people just warn my post. Anytime I post something, it gets worn, warn, warn, warn, warn, account violation, take down.
Starting point is 00:14:24 One more of count violation, you're deleted. They don't have somebody physically sitting there saying, well, this isn't bad. It's just, you warn it enough, they'll take it down. That's over in China. Yeah. So you just know it when forge out a blowposts, let's all ban his shit, and it's going to come right down. Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Starting point is 00:14:40 It's funny to them, but it's frustrating to me because I'm like, dang, I just got this post. On TikTok, I think if you search my name, it's like 45 million views, right? Right on my page. I have tons of videos in the millions. So you get a million views and just people warning you get to take it none. It's not fair. Yeah. I feel that people, you know, you got rappers these days.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Like, you know, I made degenerate music sometimes in my life, you know, about drugs, cars, money, lifestyle, female, whatever. It never got banned, never got censored. They didn't care. I rap about, you know, voter integrity and a vaccine. It's like, whoa, hold up. Get it out of here. Get it out of here. But 6-9, I like 6-9, but he's like a genius to me on social media, right?
Starting point is 00:15:23 Really? But he, I mean, he'll literally say, like, pull up here. I'm going to California. I don't care what's up. Like, did get away with that on social media? That's like almost telling, like, baiting people to come kill you. And everybody in their mom is putting up gang signs and guns, social media. Every woman in the world on there is half naked promoting their brand.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Like, that's fine. But if you just put up an American flag and a couple of the bros, it's like, whoa, my God. You know, this is a cult. This needs to come down. They didn't care about fight comps. Remember all the fight comps? Yeah, they're straight up porn on Twitter. Yeah, but like fight comps, they don't care about.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Let's talk about Portland. They're so worried about January. Like Portland went on for three months. They'd have burnt in Portland all the way to the ground. They're not circling bag arresting anybody. They're at the Capitol, which is our building, trying to lock up everybody and their mom who was even posted about the Capitol. Did you go to the January 6th riot?
Starting point is 00:16:17 You were there? The riot was no riot, telling you. Everybody there was happy. doing a, it was not what the people tried to put on TV. But I was books, I was there. I had a show there, me and Bryson Gray, performing. So, like, I wasn't in the Capitol, but I was there performing. You were in, you were in D.C.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Where did you perform? So, right on the main street, right outside the White House, I'll send you the video, you can attach it here. I think I sent you the post. Probably about 100,000 people of us out there. Really? Going crazy to our music. We got a real fan base, man.
Starting point is 00:16:46 We pop out. That's the biggest thing is being with the people. It's a blessing that I have 10,000 fans that day that kept me taking pictures and just wandering somewhere. I feel like that day was like a field trip. Like people go on a field trip. They're a really good kid and they just get caught with all the bad kids. Maybe do something stupid and they're like, oh, wow, that's not really my character.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I mean, they let them go inside the building. You know what I mean? People went inside the building. Ashley Babbit, you know what I'm saying? R. Ashley Babbitt, her mom actually calls me all the time and tells me, hey, thank you so much for keep my daughter's name alive. Who is she?
Starting point is 00:17:17 Ashley Babbit, she passed away. She was a veteran that was there. She got shot. She's the girl who got shot. But the thing is, you don't hear her name. You hear George Floyd's name. Not saying you should have his name, but he has charges and all types of problems that he was in. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:34 At the day, it's like Ashley Babbitt was there supporting the country, supporting the president. Wrong place, wrong time. Boom, you know what I mean? It wasn't like she had a weapon on her and she was going inside of a building. I just feel like... Was she unarmed? I just feel like things are like, you know, blown to the proportion, how CNN is still talking about things. I mean, there was literally hospitals, dealerships, fire stations, gas stations, pharmacies, boutiques,
Starting point is 00:18:00 locals, people that might have been, you know, pro-B-LMs, their own businesses getting burnt down. I've seen people that own their own restaurants. Like, they went through and just destroyed it. You know what I mean? And there's not an arrestee. There's not nobody getting in trouble for that. They don't even talk about it. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:16 They're like, they're allowed to do that. Then BLM comes out now. Most of that money that was donated. how many black people got paid. How many black people became millionaires? How many people did they bail out? None. That money went to white people and a few chosen black people that were involved in it
Starting point is 00:18:30 and made millions of dollars on that. Yeah. How many people, what was it like a group, a small group of people who made like million dollars? Well, if you went to Blackwise Matter.com, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:39 to the thing, they went to Sleepy Joe's campaign. Right, right, right, right. They had to find a way Trump's got support. We got to raise some money. But there were a couple people that made millions of dollars off that, weren't there? They just came out.
Starting point is 00:18:50 She was paying. Yeah, it was that lady. It was her family. She paid like her ex-husband or something, like two millions, people's a couple million. To be security. Yeah, but I mean, that's not really on the news. It's talked about, but it's like, it's forgivable. Imagine if Trump had that.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Just imagine if Trump said, you don't vote for me, you ain't black. Just imagine if Trump had that on a T-shirt. You know what I mean? Didn't even say it. Yeah. You know, just imagine if Trump was at a KKK eulogies like Joe Biden was. Just imagine if Trump's kids had a laptop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Just imagine. You know what I mean? And the funny thing is, everybody that, like, the vote for Trump to go against him and vote Joe Biden was just like a fuck Trump vote. Like it was funny. Like, you know, people get so mad we had these songs. I mean, Nipsey Hustle, RIP. I respect Nipsey to the fullest because I'm independent artist. And like, I did the whole albums for $100 each.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Like, I see the grind. I see the buildup. But Him and YG's biggest song was fuck Donald Trump. But we can't make a pro-Trump song and it's like, that's their big. selling song. YG is, I don't think it has a song bigger than fuck Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:19:55 When did he release that? I think that probably came out like right before the election. Oh, really? Yeah. So, I mean, that's their biggest song,
Starting point is 00:20:02 you know what I mean? But that whole culture of people now, I go on like, say cheese and different blog sites, they're all like, damn, where's Trump at? Biden ain't did a damn thing. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:20:10 Trump's kind of like in a good light right now. Great light. That's why I tell people, when he come back in 2024, it's going to be the biggest ride of his life because he's already got his Republican support that he got his day one. loyal fan base that he got, then everyone who Rory wasn't rocking with him is going to be like,
Starting point is 00:20:26 you know, that's going to be the new silent majority that said we were. There's going to be a lot of silent people that are like, I'm rocking on. I'm going to vote Trump. I'm not going to go and Joe Biden again, no way. And Joe's the biggest puppet they got. They can't put nobody else in there right now. It's going to be bigger than Joe Biden as a puppet. I look at this gas price.
Starting point is 00:20:41 People in Cal, he spent a $9, $10 on gas. This gas is already bought. We didn't buy it last week. We already had this gas. Why are we buying this? Why are we paying this much for gas we bought? Well, are we getting gas from Venezuela? I think we as a homegrown most of the gas.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I thought we were getting it from Venezuela. Well, if we are, it's not brand new gas. You're not getting gas today they brought in last week. We're not? Nope. This is pre-owned gas. Huh. This is still Trump's gas.
Starting point is 00:21:08 We have enough gas to make it. Trump gas. Yeah, I'm just saying this is still Trump's gas. We're not going next store right now and saying, oh, we need gas. We're bringing in next week for another countries. This gas has been here. Well, Trump was one of the biggest people that was pushing against that whole pipeline of all the EU countries getting gas from Russia or getting oil, you know, gas and oil from Russia.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Well, Trump's biggest thing is to make money here. Right, exactly. Give us jobs. Right now, our biggest problem is not a lot of people want to work because Joe Biden was just giving them money. See, a lot of people will get tricked into the system. They want to say, oh, I could get $300 and not work. I'll just do that. Instead of getting a job, busting their ass and making $1,800.
Starting point is 00:21:49 or $1,500 or $600 or $600. Yeah. They trick you to want to stay in that little system. One of my best friends, African-American, mixed Spanish dude, he was always around me. I had nice things. And at one time, you know, he wasn't doing that good. And I watched him work from, like, you know, Wendy's and having a bunch of different jobs.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And he lived in the community where, you know, they couldn't make so much money, his mom. And he came to me and said, yeah, I got to quit my other job. And my mom told me it's making too much money in the house and we're going to lose this housing. I said, cool, you need to move out of that housing. You'll get your own place, get you another job. And now he owns his own house, works for UPS. He's a driver, got cars he wants. But it just takes someone to say, you could do it.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Right. Go do it. You could get out there and do it. Yeah. Not everybody has that thing like me where I say I can do it myself and believe it. That's a gift in the curse. But I believe myself and I say, hey, you can do it. Some people need someone to say, you know, you want to do a podcast.
Starting point is 00:22:46 I'm going to go buy you a microphone for $300, see if you have a car, see if you actually sit there and build a table and see if you even make a YouTube channel. Yeah. See if you even make the channel. Sometimes people want to do all this stuff, but they're so afraid to even make the channel or do a podcast. A lot of people would say to you, it's easy for you to say you got a rich family. They would say that to this day, I haven't got one rich cent from no rich families. You got no money from your grandparents?
Starting point is 00:23:11 Never got money from my family. Really? Never got money from my family, ever. I bought almost myself. That's fucking crazy, man. But the end of the day is like if I tell somebody that, so I'm blue in the face, they don't care. They don't want to hear it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:22 So that's why I came out with the silver spoon. They got it. Da, da, da, da, da, because people want to hear what they want to hear. Tell the story about that for people who don't know about it. So the auto trader. Yeah. Well, my grandfather started an auto trader on the car magazine. I got sent to boarding school when I was in fifth grade, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:38 By the way, they didn't mention that once in the vice article, I don't think. Well, they said a little something in there about that I kind of like, you know, have my family that, you know, my grandfather. the sole auto trader made a lot of money. But the differences about that is anybody who's family who's watching this has real money, they only want nobody else being as rich as them, more powerful as them. It's just kind of like anything in the world. So with me, I went my own route, did my own way, got my own tattoos, built my own brand. Now, there's not to say one day when, you know, my mother's still alive.
Starting point is 00:24:11 And I wouldn't want my mom to ever pass away from me to make any money, you know what I'm saying? but my mom's goal is not to just give me her money. My mom had to work hard in her life, and she got money when my grandfather died. She was left property. So if somebody leaves you a lot of property, it hasn't been taken care of. Well, then first of all,
Starting point is 00:24:28 you've got to pay the inheritance tax. It's a fire sale on that property. So your property might be worth $10 million, but they know you can't afford to keep that property. So we'll give you $2.5 million. Then you've got to pay taxes, and that's through the roof right now. So my biggest thing was I went to Admiral Fairgoat Academy.
Starting point is 00:24:42 It was a military private school. went there in fifth grade. I lived in that school until I was a senior. So I wasn't at home mean lollipops like everybody wants to say. I was living in a military dorm boarding school. Now, the military wasn't the toughest aspect of it. We just marched around a little rifle. It wasn't like we really did push-ups and sit-ups and all this stuff all day.
Starting point is 00:25:02 But one thing Farragut did teach me is to be a people person. I could talk to any kind of person. You had kids from all over the world there, all different races. It taught you that, like a melting pot. of people. I never held nothing against my parents sending me there. You know, it was cool. Like, I liked living with my friends anyways. But fifth grade is kind of young to leave your family behind and not see your family anymore. I never really went home for holidays. You know what I'm saying? I've always been kind of distant. Now I have a good relationship with my mom
Starting point is 00:25:32 when I'm older. I think it's because I always wanted to do the way I wanted to do it. And not everybody's going to see that. Not everybody's going to see your vision. Sometimes you've got to make your own vision and people see it in the long run. And I'm glad nobody gave me any money because I wouldn't be where I was today. I would have got some money and blown it. I don't do no drugs. I don't drink.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I don't do none of this stuff. I'm just a businessman that works hard, everything that I do. And if somebody would have gave me an easy ticket, I probably would be the man I'm in right now. I wouldn't be. Yeah. I'd rather work for mine.
Starting point is 00:26:00 It feels good to have a Rolls Royce for I got inheritance. It feels good to have more than one of Rolls Royce for I got inheritance. Feels good to have big Trump trucks. You got multiple Rolls Royces? Yeah. Feels good to give people. You know, my team pay for their music videos, help their stuff come together. It feels good to be able to work for different people and just say, hey, you know what?
Starting point is 00:26:18 I'm going to put some money into you and this is what you want to do. I believe in you. I got to do to people. It feels good to take care of, you know, parents coming to me all the time saying, hey, my kid's a huge supporter of you. And I'm glad that you don't curse right that in your music anymore. And I'm glad that you got a positive message from my children. You know, a kid was getting bullied here at Seminole right here, middle school. I picked him up in the Trump truck.
Starting point is 00:26:39 They were getting bullied because they like Trump. So I can't pick them up in the Trump truck. A lot of kids saw the truck. A middle schooler was getting bullied because he likes Trump. Right here. She was a female. I went and picked them up. This is a lot of stuff I do for people, you know, just this little small things that I don't need no flowers or no rewards for them.
Starting point is 00:26:57 It's stuff I do because I want to do it. Not a lot of people who did it for me when I was younger. So my thing is now if I see someone who really wants to do something, okay, if you want to rap, you want to my homeboys, I'm not going to give you 20 bands to rap with it, but I buy you without that. of your CDs and pay for your video and see how hard you want to work. Let's see if you really want to do what I'm doing. You know what I mean? You got to understand this is more marketing and advertisement than as being a great artist.
Starting point is 00:27:21 You got to have a brand. You know what I mean? Yeah, you're definitely a good marketer. That's one thing for sure. I did crazy things with the marketing. I was hanging billboards up. You know what I mean? Merchandise.
Starting point is 00:27:29 This is the way I just do my things different. So like if I hang a billboard up that costs me $8,000, people would say, oh, wow, so I spent $8,000 on a billboard. Well, the next billboard, I might cut in half and charge five companies, $25,000 each. That's $25,000. I made $17,000 on my second billboard. Then I keep throwing billboards up.
Starting point is 00:27:46 If I make a merchandise t-shirt like they used to do in the back of the day and put all the sponsors on the back of it, $750 to $1,000, I print a shirt up. I used to think about how I'm going to make this shirt make me $10,000 in sales. I just sold $10,000 in advertisement on that shirt before it even hits streets. Yeah, you got crazy merch too. Are you selling a shitload of merch? Yeah, merch goes good, and I'm saying, just like with my music.
Starting point is 00:28:07 So if I sell my CDs for $10, I won't sign the autograph for less than another $10. I sell my album for $20. All my albums sold for $20. All my fans support me. They buy the album. I double my income and my net worth writing my name. How did you connect with Rick Ross? Rick Ross.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I've always been a fan of Rick Ross. How did you like initially get a little of it? So Rick Ross has always been my idol. And the biggest thing is when I finally got to meet Ross and do the song, like the worst thing I've realized in this music industry or any industry is like meeting your those with their capes off. That's why when I met Trump, I was like, please be who I think you are. Because, I mean, I'm going to war for you out here.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Yeah. So when I met Rick Ross, you know, for the years I was making these songs, you know, they were comparing me to white Rick Ross. I made a song called Rick Ross. And people are like, oh, you're cloud chasing, bro. You've been on Ross for like four or five years. He ain't go rock with you. And I just kept getting on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And I used to inbox it to everybody and say, yo, tag Rich Forever. Tag Rich Forever. They might not like it or see it. But if 500 people tag you, no matter how famous you are, you're going to see it. So I just kept doing that for years and years and years. Then I started doing some features with people close to him, my young breed, an artist that he had that were like his homeboys around him. Take him over here to Florida, put him on the yacht, shoot a dope video,
Starting point is 00:29:22 give him a real great look, almost better on the look they were getting with the labels. So I would get his attention through that. Then Ross started doing the checkers and the wing stops. So I started pulling up to like driving to Miami. Ross would be on Snapchat and say, yo, tomorrow. I'm opening up this checkers here. Boom, boom, boom. Here's the address.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Pull up. A lot of people don't think that's saying pull up and get a record deal. They want to pull up when it's benefit for them, not for him. So I knew I'm going to support you. So I just kept going to those. And then we ended up started chopping it up. Then I said I got a song called Vanilla Sprite with Vanilla Ice. I'd like to get you on it.
Starting point is 00:29:59 So he gave me his people's number. I sent him the song. One time people were saying like, you know, who we were going to do a deal, we were going to sign. And then I got everything. done before that. So I was like, I'm going to stay independent. So I put the song out.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Even like Vanel Ice. At one time, people don't understand how I met Vano Ice. Like Vanel Ice, I waited at airports for him to get off airplanes. That's how I met Vano Ice. You waited at the airport. How did you know he was laying on that? How did he know he was on his way? RIP, my boy guy, but my boy guy used to do.
Starting point is 00:30:28 So my TMZ type thing were in then autographs. So like what he would do, he was there the day we all met. He died recently. He just died. Really? Yeah. He was in the first video out there with us in the back of the car, remember, with all the tattoos on the back, big guy. He would meet everybody that was famous.
Starting point is 00:30:44 He's a dude who rode with us. He rode with us there. He's passed away. He died like six months ago. Crazy. Fuck, that sucks. So one of my great friends. But he would do getting autographs.
Starting point is 00:30:55 So companies would pay for his autographs. So he would get out there. They would say, okay, hey, this person's going here and go there this week and try to get what you can get. And they cash it out. So he got real good with all the people. So he was to always give Vanilla Ice's autographs, and he'd be like Vanilla Ice usually does a show on Saturday night, Friday night.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Vanilla Ice is crazy popular. You know what I'm saying? People, if they don't realize it, they need to. Like Ice Ice Ice Ice Baby's the number one rap selling song in the world ever. You know what I mean? He's constantly doing shows nonstop. So my boy was like, yo, we go to West Palm Airport, Vanilla Ice flies in every Sunday.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And I always be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, bro, every Sunday. So I went there one Sunday, saw him, say, what's up? Went there the next Sunday and was like, yo, Vanel Ice came to me and said, look man I respect your grind here's the list of all my dates and my tour anyone you're at you can perform with me I never did this before but anyone you show up to I'm gonna let you rock the stage with me like y'all went with me to the show and we got there even in that first video I was still figuring out okay cameras on cameras off all right we talked to him because it wasn't the
Starting point is 00:31:56 relationship wasn't fully built then it was just nobody gave me an opportunity like this I'm going to give it to you because you earned it right that was before the whole like Trump thing took off. That was before you started like the Trump rebrand. Yeah, well, Silver Spoon was out. Silver Spoon was out. So Silver Spoon was out. That's true. That's true. It was out. But Vanilla Ice and me have great music together still. We did a ride to horse since then eight million views. We did a song called Rodeo. Me Him is did a song with Kodak Black. He's not political rapper by what so means. You know what I'm saying? Who Kodat? No vanilla ice. Kodak rocks Maga like crazy. Oh, yeah. But I respect, see, the difference between the left and the right to me is like you could not
Starting point is 00:32:35 like Trump and I can still be your friend. I lost tons of friends. People didn't like me anymore because I like Trump or this and that. Like just because you don't like Trump, I mean, we can't be friends. I can still help you. I can still see your grandma across the street, help her across the street because you don't like Trump. That's not a problem to me. I can still lend you a couple hundred dollars or pick you up. You need a ride somewhere. Right. But what was to me, people just get the animosity and that hate with me. Like, he's got easy. Oh, he don't have to work for nothing. Like, I don't have to bust in my ass for what I got. I earned every accolated I got because you know what? when they think you had it easy, they don't want to give you the trophy.
Starting point is 00:33:08 You got to take it. Right. So I got to do double the work. I got to outwork everybody. And then I went to left field and built my own genre. I said, okay, cool. I've always liked to go against the grain, right? Because there's no traffic.
Starting point is 00:33:22 When you go the wrong way, there's no traffic. It's going to be bumpy a little bit, but ain't nobody, you know what I mean? Everybody's going the other way. So I'm like, okay, cool. I'm going to go way over here and do my own thing. Then I see everybody copy. me and do what they do. It's cool. I don't got to get the credits, but I know what I didn't did. I know the time I put in the chances I take. I just believe if you put effort into anything,
Starting point is 00:33:45 you'll be able to get us so to round it up. So the round it up. So the vanilla ice thing was cool. Vanilla ice is super cool dude, super humble. Vanilla ice did more for me probably besides myself than anybody in my rap career. Like, just gave me opportunity. He's never said, like, here's a bag of money. You know what I mean? Or like, do this. But the opportunity he's gave me is priceless. And anybody who I worked with always gave me opportunity. People are afraid of opportunity. They want the money now. Let me get that
Starting point is 00:34:11 opportunity and watch how much money I make with the opportunity. Yeah. Does Kodak do a lot of like MAGA raps? Does he make a lot of songs about Trump? No, I don't think I think he would of like he saw the lane that was popping, but Kodai Black's already Kodai Black and he's popping. But like every single day, he's
Starting point is 00:34:27 maggen on the internet. You think if you were like Kodak Black's level, if you were as famous as he was or as popular as he was as he is right now you would still be rocking Trump that hard. All day. Really? All day I'm rapping Trump. When Trump lost,
Starting point is 00:34:39 there was like, what y'all gonna do? What y'all gonna do? It's a rap. My career, I got more plays, more, I'm bigger. Because it seems like a smart move. Like, it seems like what you did was a smart move. Like you, you basically, like, you basically, like, one of the most hardcore groups of people in the country right now are, like, the hardcore
Starting point is 00:34:58 Trump supporters. So if you're one of the only rappers or the only, musicians who are like representing that group of people, you're going to automatically gain this massive audience. So it seems like a genius marketing. A little bit because when I did it, those people didn't have the balls they have right now either. I was out here by myself.
Starting point is 00:35:18 With a few types of people around the world doing it, that crowd wasn't there yet. Once people are starting to see what, okay, he's doing it, I'm going to do it too. Or you know what? He's going to say his opinion. I'm going to say my opinion too. It takes one person to jump straight. out. You know what I mean? So when I jump straight out, then other people start being like,
Starting point is 00:35:38 you know what? I get 10 DMs like, oh, you saw if you pussy, da-da-da-da, then the third DM, hey, bro, I respect what you're doing. You know, my job would never let me do something like this or, you know, my family or my wife thinks different. And then sooner or later, they're like, that same person a year later is like, man, I'm putting a Trump flag on my car. I don't care. Nobody says, you know, you got to open the door a little bit of people to get in. Trump is so busy doing Trump. He doesn't have time to this or the local person. That's what I try to say people to come to my videos and stuff these are local people these are everyday trumpers why do you think these people are so so bought into trump why do you why do people love trump so much do you think
Starting point is 00:36:13 because it feels like he's the most loved most loved and the most hated definitely most loved um i feel like people love trump because they feel deep down that he's super brutally honest um he has nothing to gain from somebody so he just tell you exactly how he's a straight shooter that's why I was so worried when I went to meet Trump how that thing was going to go. I think he might have roasted you or something and be like, who the fuck says tattooed up crazy looking motherfuckold?
Starting point is 00:36:38 Yeah, like you just didn't know what it was going to be because I didn't put it in a lot of work. I took a lot of risks. I didn't spend a lot of money. Even though I might have made some money, I spent a lot of money. Like I probably spent my truck alone's 100 bands for Trump. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:50 I probably spent a quarter million dollars on Trump. These videos, Trump ain't paying for him. He's not paying for the studio time. He's not paying for me to get out here and push my hats and push my stuff. He's not paying for that. So when I went to meet Trump for the first time, actually, like he didn't tweeted some stuff and showed some love through the campaign.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Trump just sent me a personalized letter a couple months ago thanking me again for everything I did for him, which is crazy. And my boy Stoney, who's here right now with me, when I went to meet Trump, he was with me. And it was Stoney's birthday. And I remember, like, Secret Service, they're real big. I'm like, you know, they think they run the show. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Like, they're in charge. So I had this little photo book, You know what I'm saying? I like everything that I did for Trump, you know, the trucks, the billboards, all the, you know, the tattoo on my leg. And I'm saying, all a bunch of stuff in there. And they were like, you can't bring that in there when you talk to Trump. I'm like, why? I don't bring, can't even give them your pen to sign something because you can poison the pen.
Starting point is 00:37:45 You know, they're very serious. It's very serious around Trump. I mean, you know, President of the United States at the time. What was the event you were at? You met him out. So it was at a Sarasota rally. And I helped with a lot. They had put my truck inside.
Starting point is 00:37:56 So even like right now, when Trump has a rabbi. I called her campaign managers and they say, Blow, okay, cool, I got my seat in the front. They got my truck in there the night before. Trump shows a lot of love to me. He doesn't have to do that, but it's like, lets the people know that I rock with Blow. I know he had some sort of a fundraiser in Bel Air,
Starting point is 00:38:14 like when he was still president. And I remember he was going to land his helicopter on the golf course, but they wouldn't let him because they were afraid somebody was going to shoot a rocket launcher at it or something. So he actually had to drive his, they actually had to drive him all the way from fucking tan. Tampa to the golf course. And I was at the Pelican.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And I know a guy who was a member of that, and he went to it. And he said it was like he was charging something crazy, like 50 grand for a handshake. Who? Hey, if you could get it, get it, get it. Yeah. If you could get it, get it, get it. But all these people were there paying for, though. If you could get it, get it.
Starting point is 00:38:46 So quick, I was saying so when I went into meet Trump, soon as I got in, bam, he knew what time it was. You see, appreciate all the work he did for me. You know what I mean? I said, I got a little book. I want you to sign some stuff. Show you some stuff. And the people said, we already said,
Starting point is 00:38:57 couldn't do that. And Trump looked at him and goes, where's the book at? So Stoney, who's over here in the cut, he was outside with the book waiting on me, right? And he came in, and he's a MAGA rapper, and he wasn't like, you know, it's my brother. He wasn't hating on me. Like, he wants to meet Trump, and I wasn't hating either. So when he came in, Trump saw him and said, I like that merchandise. I liked that shirt.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Where did you get that shirt from? It said Trump and had the goat on it. And he goes, that's Blows merch. So Trump said, get up here and take a picture with me ASAP in that shirt because I love that shirt. And they said, y'all get blow, for Giotto's. information, they're called Blood Forgeado, get Fordiado's information, and I need you to send me these shirts. So the next day, over to bed minister, I send him some CDs, medallions, t-shirts, all my stuff. I sent him a big merch pack.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I said, President Trump, I'm going to send him everything I got. You know what I'm saying? I put some crazy stuff to get us on my 20 hats or all my merchandise. And then, like, two weeks later, I got a personalized letter back for him. You know what I mean? So if somebody's rocking with you, it's like, thanks for the merch, keep it moving. They're not going to say, you'll send that kid a letter. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:54 The end of the day, Trump sees, like, if you're a Republican and you out here, doing your thing and you're a Trump supporter, that's amazing. But most of the people at that time were voting for Trump, we're already voting for Trump. The stuff they're sharing is going to Trump supporters already. Here's somebody like me, Bryson Gray, J-360, Stony Dubrow. Our followers are not voting for Trump. And we're red-pilling people with our music. I'm red-pilling people with my events.
Starting point is 00:40:20 What do you mean by that? Making them Trump supporter, red pill, get them on the red side. Converting him to Trump? Yeah, Republican converting. I mean, a lot of people, it's not. But it's not really Republican. No, because I'll say that. So a lot of people turn Republican that like Trump.
Starting point is 00:40:32 But on our wrap, we only have someone to talk about. So we take shots of Democrats and this and that. But Democrats for Trump helped Trump in 2016 win the election. You know what I mean? If Trump wins it in 2024, which he's going to win, Democrats are going to have a big part of it. Because the Democrats that voted for Joe Biden, they're not all going to switch over to Republican.
Starting point is 00:40:51 They're just going to vote Republican. You know what I mean? That's what they're going to do. So 2016 had a lot of the job. do with the Republican Party, I mean the Democratic Party helping Trump win. But I'm the saying, so we do events. When people come out to our events, they're like, wow, this is cool. I mean, my camera crew, they're African-American, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:41:08 They come out to the events. They're like, at first they're looking like, okay, like, you know, this is starting to get crazy. You know, I'm doing rallies. My first rallies were like 200 people. Next to you know, I'm throwing one of Miami, 20,000 people are there. So my team and everybody's like, you know what I mean? This is getting crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And then they would come out there and people would say, like, hey, what's up? They would say their name to and they'd be like, how you remember my name? What I met you last week would blow? Like, they realized that people genuinely cared about them, you know, and it was like a really good vibe and they're all like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:38 It made them realize, man, ain't nobody ever gave me a hug and say they love me in 20 years. You know, this's crazy. I love this, I love this. I love being around this. I love seeing this. So sometimes you just got to get out there and be around firsthand and see, like, you know, the energy. Like, if I brought my Trump truck to a BLM rally,
Starting point is 00:41:55 I guarantee as soon as I pull in is going down. Yeah. It's going down. Yeah. Right? Which is cool, but it's going down. So when we're in D.C. There's no more BLM rallies, are there?
Starting point is 00:42:03 I don't think so. But I'm saying, like, when we're in D.C., people like me and Bryson Gray, we're making his music for everybody, everybody's love it. And Tifa got us on their hit list, publicized hit lists. Like, you see Forge Out or Bryce and Gray, you take them out. And we're still in D.C. popping out. We ain't got no. Imagine if I had a hit list of people when I'm riding around with my hit list.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Like, I'm going to jail. So it's like, we go through a lot. Not to mention, they say, oh, you're Griffith. And this is a griff, right? You guys are just making money off that red hat. 2016, nobody was doing it. This is the place I could get a co-signed from you that wasn't a griff. That's the only person doing it.
Starting point is 00:42:37 There was not making no money. I wasn't getting no money. It wasn't getting book shows off it. And if Trump would have lost, and they say he did, why do we stop if it's just about a griff? Do you think you'll ever run for office? Mayor, definitely. You'd run for mayor? What about governor?
Starting point is 00:42:52 Maybe that'd be in my 50s. You know, my biggest thing is like if I'm going to put my mind to it, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. Like right now I work with some campaigns. You know, Christine Quinn, she's running for U.S. Congress here in the 13 District. Who is she? Who is she? Christine Quinn?
Starting point is 00:43:05 Christine Quinn. Christine Quinn. I'm never here. She's Republican. If you're going out here, make sure you vote for Christine Quinn, District 13. My thing is, you know, I can't be, you know, when I'm 40, that's like when I'm done with, like, the regular rap music and everything. I'm not going to be pushing my rap CDs when I'm 40.
Starting point is 00:43:22 It's a great time for me when Trump will win 2024. That will give me what I'm about about about my time. How old are you now? 37. 37, okay. So I got three years. You know what I'm saying? Which, not putting the end of my music, but it's like I've lived every single day.
Starting point is 00:43:36 The first 10 years of my rap career, rapping, like every day, studio, how am I going to make it? Then 2016 on, it was like, how am I going to help Trump? Like, I don't have fun. I don't do family events. I don't go out and spend time. Like, my life has been consistent in rap music and trying to blow. How am I going to make it? When am I going to make it?
Starting point is 00:43:55 You enjoy the politics more than that. than you enjoy the music? Yeah. Well, I enjoy the people more than I enjoy the music. So, like, I like getting into, like, you know, no vaccine, this and that. And I like to see, like, I go to a place and there's 500 people out there with me saying, yeah, I'm with you blow. Like, I like the family side of it. Like, Maga's family to me.
Starting point is 00:44:13 It's been a lot of people who hit me up. And, you know, I might sell my merchandise. I might pull up with my merchandise one day and say, look, here's 100 free hats. Let's go. You know what I mean? It's just how I feel that day, what I'm doing? What do you think makes those people the way that, like, what? what is it about the mag of people?
Starting point is 00:44:28 I think being, I cut you all, but I think it's being involved with something that they're accepted in. I feel like these people that are here, they're tired of the bullshit, yeah, but it's like it's a family vibe. I feel like some of these people are just like lost souls
Starting point is 00:44:45 are left to do whatever sometimes because it's not just like rich, wealthy people at these events. Right. There's people that literally go to a Trump rally a week before and sleep outside. Front Road Joe's. for a five day straight to get in.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Then somebody like forge out of blow, walks up, calls somebody in my seats right in front of their seat. Like, you know what I'm saying? These guys are out here sleeping. Like, I respect that. When these rallies go on, and most of these events, like CPAC and all these places, all your rappers are inside, flicking it up.
Starting point is 00:45:12 I'm across the street with the Patriots outside of my Trump truck, waving flags and out there doing my thing, holding the people down because that's who I'm with. I'm with the people. The people made me. The people shared my music. People bought my music. The politicians didn't it?
Starting point is 00:45:26 These people help me. These people believed in me. These people didn't judge me. So you would say like your goal is to convert as many people as possible in America to the like MAGA ideology or way of thinking? In some ways, in some ways, yeah. I mean, that's not my everyday goal. My goal is just like, sorry, go ahead. My goal is just to do me.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Like, you know, nobody tells me what to do. I do what I want to do. Trump doesn't give me like a checklist of things I need to go do. Ronda Sanchez. I got a huge trailer with Ronda Sanchez. I just saw him at Frenchies in Clearwater Beach. Did you really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:58 What was that? What was that? A week ago he was doing the van. I pulled up with my trump truck on my trailer. Like these dudes show me love, you know what I'm saying? It's not like they're like, yo, blow, what's up? Let's hit the cookout. But they're like, blow.
Starting point is 00:46:10 I love the trail. I love what you're doing. Thank you. He's gangster because he's like, it seems like he does what he wants to do. He doesn't like really like, he's not like a fucking Rick Scott. Like, you know what I mean? Fucking. Well, a big thing is too, he's got to look.
Starting point is 00:46:25 So, like, I got tons of love for DeSantis. I hope DeSantis will be a great president one day. You know, he needs to wait that Trump gets four more years. Then we get eight years of Descances. A lot of people like them on the same ticket, but they're both Florida residents, so they can't run together. A lot of people don't know that. Can't run.
Starting point is 00:46:39 But you think Trump would be a better president than DeSantis? Yeah. But I think DeSantis is because Trump's Trump. DeSantis is still becoming who he is. Like, you got to what that's I was trying to say, man they go. DeSances, COVID made him famous. Yeah, but DeSantis is a veteran. Trump's a, he dodged the draft.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Man, Trump's a hustler. He's a draft dodger. Nobody, like, were you there? But I'm saying, were you there when he actually did the drafting and dodged it? No. So, like, I'm a spoiled rich kid from St. Pete, but I'm really not. But people are going to say what they want to say. Trump was self-made.
Starting point is 00:47:11 He got millions of dollars from his family. Well, let me give you a million dollars, see what you do with it. Right. Let me see how much you come back with. Yeah, he definitely. No, I watched his, have you seen his documentary on Netflix? Even though they kind of shit on him, they kind of like, at the end. They're always going to shit on all of us.
Starting point is 00:47:24 It's still, what he fucking did was amazing. So my thing is with DeSantis, he got famous during COVID. He was a great governor. But standing up for COVID, you know what I mean, made him real big. Well, who was behind him had his back the whole way? Trump. Trump kind of shit on him towards the end. Trump was kind of like, if Joe Biden was in there right now and with the way he feels about it,
Starting point is 00:47:48 I don't see the governor going to super hard. Now, DeSantis has really turned it on because he knows that he became who he became. I'm not taking nothing from DeSantis. I love DeSantis. But I'm trying to say, is Trump had a lot to do with that help of DeSantis becoming DeSantis? Sure. I think DeSantis might be after Trump, maybe the greatest president that we're going to have coming up. But you got to give Trump his four more years.
Starting point is 00:48:07 You know what I mean? Trump got, he really got stripped of these four, right? Yeah. So you need to let Trump get in there. And I feel like DeSantis, I don't want to lose them in Florida. Yeah. I don't want to Sanchez to go nowhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:19 This is why they're all moving here. They know Florida's strong. Yeah. So all these people are like, oh, they're moving to Florida. because Florida is great. They're moving to Florida to pull off the big scam again. I think the one thing Trump has that DeSantis doesn't have. Sanchez has got like the looks.
Starting point is 00:48:33 He's got everything. He's got like the look. He's got the persona. He's got the confidence. He's got, I think he's got everything it takes to be a good president. I mean, he's like,
Starting point is 00:48:42 if you think of like who you want to represent the country, right? First of all, you think as far as just like being articulate and like, like, caring yourself well and look, you think like Obama. Like that, that's the guy. originally.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Like, I'm saying, like, put away all and everything. I don't know. Obama did a lot of fucked up shit. Tons. Tons of fucked up shit. Trump did more for African-Americans than Obama did. He was a super good, like, speaker. Great speaker.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Carried himself well. As Joe Biden would say, he's the cleanest black man ever, right? That's about races as it gets. Did he really say that? Yeah. But then DeSantis is kind of similar to that. DeSantis is a fucking great talker. He's young.
Starting point is 00:49:17 But Trump's got the thing, the thing I think Trump has is he's a maverick, bro. He's super smart. I think he's really good at dealing with people. And he got the ace. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. No one's ever dealt with more people.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Like no one, like first president to ever meet Kim Jong-un. That was crazy. Now, a president, that's why I got with Trump. My boy went all the way over there. Someone just could have got banged, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Could have went over there and just like, boom. You got all this blame?
Starting point is 00:49:42 That was gangster. That was gangster. But what I say is like, DeSan says we can't use all of our eggs one time. But don't you think, he's our next card. What I'm getting at is like, don't you think that. the polar, like how do you bridge the gap with the polarization? Like he fucking, he, he polarizes people more than anybody.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Well, one thing I will say, but he's saying a bridge in the gap. That gap's back because the media tears you apart like Trump. For sure. So the media has made this huge gap into Trump. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And it's closing because they're seeing nothing's doing yet.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Now DeSantis, he's did a really good job. I would say, like here, you got whites and blacks like DeSantis. Democrats and Republicans like DeSantis. You know what I mean? A lot of people don't really know. know too much. I remember the first time I met DeSanchez. I was still on my way.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Where's Trump? I was going to take a picture on them all and I was just like, you know, where's Trump? You know what I'm saying? But then I really looked back and I was like, damn, now's the Sanchez I messed up. Because I don't know what I mean? Because I was just coming in the game. I was just learning. This is maybe like, you know, two and a half years ago.
Starting point is 00:50:41 I was just more focused on MAGA and Trump. It was bigger. Right. You know, and then I realized like, okay, well, DeSantis is a big part. And he's doing a lot of good things putting off for our home here in Florida. And I like that he stood up towards. a lot of things. So I just went and did some big stuff for the Sanchez.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I made a song called Hey Disney. I sampled Pink Floyd. They sued me. They sued me. Did they really? Yeah, they gave me a copyright and everything within a week, which is crazy. Did they give you season assist first? No, they just straight sued me.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Damn. Roger Walters or Water, whatever it is. So I put on TikTok, I started doing millions of views, everybody kept tagging them on the left. So, like, I went to Disney, right? Because I was supporting Trump on the Don't Say Gay Act, right? So, like, my biggest thing is I ain't a gay hater. You know what I mean? if you're going to be gay, you can just be gay.
Starting point is 00:51:24 You don't need to have a big sign that says, I'm gay, and I need to give you extra attention. If you're white, you don't need a big sign that says I'm white privilege or black. I'm black. I need privileges. You know what I mean? We're all equal. All lives matter to me.
Starting point is 00:51:38 So when I went there, it's disgusting to me. Like right now, if I got out of here, school bus gets out, right? And us three walk up to seven, eight-year-olds say, you know, masturbate today? What's going to happen? I'm going to get some shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:51 They're allowed to do that in school. These teachers in first, second, and third grade want to be able to have transvestites come in, cross-dressers come in and perform and talk to the kids. They want to add this stories like this to the school books and curriculum. Let a parent discuss to their children what that is. That's a parent's job to do. And it might not be in first or second and third grade. If they masturbated?
Starting point is 00:52:14 Yeah, that's a new thing. They got a new thing coming out where they're going to ask students to masturbate three to five times a week because it's going to help the stress. You got to find this. the stress levels. They got all types of stuff going on. Where did you see this? It's on the news.
Starting point is 00:52:26 On TV you can read about it. It's everywhere. You've got to find this shit, Austin. I got to see this. Their biggest thing is, you know, their sex ed, they're starting real young and trying to tell kids that it's okay. But the difference is that me and you
Starting point is 00:52:38 were two boys sitting at home in first, second, or third grade, and Aladdin comes on and the boys are making out. If the what comes on? Aladdin comes on and two boys are making out. Well, two boys in first, second, and third grade does Mike kiss because they think, well, I saw it on the TV.
Starting point is 00:52:54 So I guess that's what's supposed to go on. That's not supposed to go on. That teacher, whoever it is in the movie, has no right to teach the children that. Right. They have no right. The parent has their right at the end of the day. And if the parent doesn't do their job, then that's on the parent with their kids. Or at least let them get to high school.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Like first, second grade should be talking about what's trans and what's gay. So I went out there. We did the big pedal world. I did a huge video at Sea World outside of Disney there. I had about... Times Union. I had about 500 people show about there. And it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And within a week, Pink Floyd stripped my video. The request inquires about any requirements for health and physical education instructors to define very specific sex acts, including masturbation, masturbation, vaginal sex, oral sex, and anal sex. What is that? I don't know what the fuck this is in reference to. The parents' union? There's a parents union. Well, so pretty much what it is.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Okay, mystery group seeks all the sex education details from local scoops. An anti-LGBQ law. So what they call it an anti-LG. Desanthes, what he did is he passed his law saying that, you know, he's not banning gays, but he's banned, you know, to say, talking about being gay in first, second, or third grade. Another wrong with that. And the left's fighting back on him saying that's wrong, that these kids, you know, I've seen videos that, like, you know, Instagram of a woman having a newborn baby.
Starting point is 00:54:25 male and saying this is my son and he's going to be gay and he's going to be great and then she stops and goes you got a problem with that and I'm looking like yeah I'm thinking of my son I got a big problem with that but the way she was doing it she says well you guys hold your little daughter and say oh she's beautiful I have to lock her up when she's 16 because she's going to break somebody's heart or this kid's going to be a cutie he's going to have all the girls so what's wrong with me with my baby already saying that he's going to be gay it's a lot wrong with that putting that onto a child like that in my opinion. Yeah, for sure. So I just came out with that and Pink Floyd sued me. And which is crazy is the beat was sampled. And they had all rights to take the video down. So then I redid a whole new beat, put the audio to it and they still copyrighted me, which is crazy. Is this on YouTube?
Starting point is 00:55:14 Yeah, I own the song. You don't make the words. You know what I'm saying? My words, my new beat. But that's a problem with being independent. I've got a number. It's like, yeah, I'll talk to YouTube, please. Right now I can't even get a hold of YouTube.
Starting point is 00:55:25 even though I got my 100K subscriber flag. It took years to get that from them people. They don't want me to have none of that stuff. Yeah, but at least YouTube hasn't banned you. Nope, but they de-monetize a lot of stuff. So they say like, oh, you're making so much money on this topic. The video's out, but I'm not making no money because they demonetized it.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Right. So, yeah, I'm rapping about no vaccines for money, but they can't make money on it because it's demonetized. What is this, Austin? What's the title of this article? And also, where did the don't say gay even come from. I don't even think that does the bill even actually say the word. Yeah, Desantis has it in there.
Starting point is 00:56:00 He has it in there? Yeah, the teachers can't talk about that type of stuff. Okay. Well, they were outraged. And then they have the, so like we were at Disney. I'm not sure if you really paid attention, but there's a lot of stuff in these movies. That's crazy. Like, I have some stuff I could probably take a picture and show you, like, I got a picture,
Starting point is 00:56:19 a screenshot of Toy Story. And while all the characters are looking up, the shadow is like someone getting a job. You know what I'm saying? Like, but then again, say us three were creators of movies and Drew stuff, we could be sitting around like, watch, we'll put this in here. No one's ever going to see this. I'm going to put a dick in this thing.
Starting point is 00:56:39 But that's what they did. So I'm not really putting it a thousand percent on Disney. Yeah. But it's out. And it's of the kids, right? And then this, you hear the stories of what goes on. What a mermaid was taken down because it had dicks on the thing. I got a Mickey Mouse gift card that somebody showed me.
Starting point is 00:56:55 At the bottom of, like, Mickey Mouse's dress is just a dick and two balls. There's no legs on it. It's just, like, two balls, a dick and then her. But this does facts. Yeah. Why are they fact-checked in that? So I stand with DeSantis on that. I mean, a thousand percent everything DeSantis does.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Another thing about Trump is, man, he was so good for business for, like, the media. Like, the media made so much money on him. Even, even, like, small YouTubers who did political commentary. Like, I know a guy, I know a couple people who are, like, left-wing YouTube commentators on politics. all he do is talk politics. And they were getting way more views, way more subscribers when they were basically just watching every time Trump went live from the White House and talked,
Starting point is 00:57:35 they'd just fucking pipe in the live stream into their live stream and have themselves in the corner just like every time Trump would say something, they would just make a comment on it or talk about it. Yeah, good or bad, but it was just Trump gave people opportunity to definitely make money, but are those people that they ever get demonetized or de-platform? Either they were pro or not Trump, I'm just saying they did. Well, on Twitter, not on you. YouTube.
Starting point is 00:57:56 You know, that sucks. They demonetizing. So the copyright I got from Pink Floyd was my first strike on my account. So, I mean, that was the first one that I got. And it did what it was doing. I mean, that's where VICE is with me. It got me to VICE ride up and made the vice interview. Vice is coming back doing a video documentary on me for the YouTube channel like in a week and I have.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Oh, that's cool. I hit y'all up. You all can pull up with the cameras. You want to do some behind the scenes or whatever. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. But my biggest thing is like not everyone, just because someone is like, I can't do a podcast or I can't agree with them. where I can't go out the lunch with them.
Starting point is 00:58:26 That's what people get so big into. And that's what Trump did. It's not the same on the other end, though. Like if there's somebody who, just because you can say you can go hang out with anyone who's not a Trump supporter, someone who's not a Trump support, they won't go out and hang out with some, like, hardcore MAGA person. I got a freaking Trump truck, and I mean, people lose their minds.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Yeah. Lose their minds. Like, you know what I mean? Like, disgusted, lose their minds. Austin, pull up that truck. Can you pull a picture? Where can we find a good picture up? You just Google.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Just type of you have forged auto books. A truck. I got me and Roger Stone on there from Patriot Sweet video. Oh my God. That fucking video is absolutely bananas. Yeah. You got fucking Roger Stone. Go down to the right right there.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Go back. One more over? He's got Roger Stone Crip walking in front of his truck. To the left. Right there. Yeah, that's me and Roder Stone. My dog right there. Play this video.
Starting point is 00:59:17 What's this video called? Patriot Sweet. What? Patriot Sweet. Patriot Sweet. Pull that up on YouTube. I got to show this video of Roger Stone dancing. How did you get a hold of Roger Stone? So I just put a new one out of Matt Gates too.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I don't be seeing that. But we have Rodder Stone. So like, that's what I try to tell you. These people that are running and they're good friends of Trump, they see me. They like what I'm doing. They're like, they fuck with me. They're like, well, I fuck with you. Like Matt Gates, we just put a brand new video out.
Starting point is 00:59:40 He took the video, put it on all of his social media, said, I hope this goes the number one for you, Forgeato. You know, it's like, at the end of the day, it's not, they're showing love to me. Pull up the part where he's dancing in front of the truck. Yeah, starts off right after that end. Yeah. There you go. Full screen it. Oh my God. Look at this shit. How old is this guy? He's got to be in his like 80s, right?
Starting point is 01:00:10 Roder Stone. I'm not too sure. He's definitely smooth, though, I tell you. He's got a giant, doesn't he have a giant tattoo of Richard Nixon on his back? Yeah, it's not too big. Not giant, but that's me and my dog Enrique right there. Rike Tario. Look at this guy. This dude. That's awesome. I don't even know what he really does.
Starting point is 01:00:30 What is he? What is he? He got some podcast and doing his stuff. He was a great friend of Donald Trump. Wasn't he? Pardoned by Trump. Oh, okay. I'll start dancing in a minute.
Starting point is 01:00:42 So we shot that outside of the CPAC two years ago. I remember it was receiving. But like, pause that. Go back and try to pause that. On the bike? Yeah, I'm going to show you something. So pause that. Like, this is what I'm talking about the MAGA community.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Does somebody shows up with a bicycle with a picture they got with me on the back, frame riding around all day. I didn't call him and say, come out there. This is like, these are why I'm outside with the people. Yeah. You know what I mean? This guy had that done himself. He riding his bike, riding around with pictures of me and just showing that he's with me. That's amazing. You know what I mean? That's crazy fan base. Yeah. Yeah. What, so what's the deal with that Matt Gates? Look at this guy. Oh, my daughter, Roder Stone. So Matt Gates, you know. Like, I didn't know anything about him until that whole scandal came out. But, I mean, I don't to speak too much crazy on it, but everyone, they put a scandal on you.
Starting point is 01:01:34 You know what I mean? Being successful is a gift and a curse, and it's almost the biggest curse ever because they're going to try to get any dirt they can get on you and just hold it for the right time. And then be like, oh, yeah, check this out. You don't want to pass this or do this. This is going to come out.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I mean, sometimes with Pence, who knows what they had on Mike Pence? Pence turned his back on Trump, right? Let the votes go through. That's why a lot of people were so pissed on January 6th and Patriots, you know, Mike Pence. But how do you know Mike Pence sometime in his career or something, then a day to a 17-year-old or something crazy happened? They're like, well, we're going to do this.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I mean, it's dirty pool in politics. You know, it's almost a little scary for some of these people. So someone like Roder Stone has showed me, well, be in my videos. Matt Gates, you could look up him. I did a song and video with him. He's in my music video. So like Roder Stone was inside CPAC. All these people outside can't get in CPAC.
Starting point is 01:02:23 So he comes outside with a thousand people out here with the streets. They're like, it's Roger Stone. And that's the only way we could do the video is if Forge you out of Blow, people respect. him because if not man screw your video we're taking photos of roderstone but i'm like yo everybody back and watch the show i got rider stone 15 minutes period and all the patriots say yeah cool but stood back let us do our video and then he went back inside he literally said i'm gonna come outside 15 minutes real quick and make it happen for you the i parked the truck in front of the hotel right the security came out it was like this truck's got to go and i said you better tow it i don't know
Starting point is 01:03:02 where the owner went. He took off. Because I know I'm not moving this car. Roder Stonebought to be out. As I'm shooting this video, security's called 911 on the other side. So one of the reporters did this clip and it did like 3 million views in a day on like TV.
Starting point is 01:03:16 It went on CNN everywhere. And you can go. I got all types of clips online. Like CNN putting me on out there January 6th. I was shooting a music video. And they're like, as this is going down, look at this guy shooting a music video. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:28 Yeah. The end of the day is like, these people, they're not cloud chasing. They're just respecting what I'm doing for the movement. And they're like, you know what? I'm going to go get in this. I'm like, but they've seen me since 2016. So it's not like they're like, they believe that it's genuine.
Starting point is 01:03:46 You know what I mean? It's genuine. So they're like, you know, all the, you don't need no money for me. All you want me to do is come hop in it. Let's go. Yeah. Which is cool. And it gives me a good look.
Starting point is 01:03:55 And it also helps them because they look and like, this is a new way to get to the people. It's a new way of getting your name. out there. It's not the same grassroots campaign they'd do years ago. There's no, I mean, how the fuck do you co-out? You said you spend how much on a video, average? So this video would probably like 5,000 on this video.
Starting point is 01:04:14 And how much, how many of you, there's no way that all these videos make their money back? They don't. So you're just dumping money into this shit. They're like the brand. You're like the Mr. Beast of hip-hop. It's the brand. If you go like to that side, I'll force, go hit to my page real quick. I hit that. And then if you hit videos
Starting point is 01:04:31 and then like scroll down a little bit scroll down a little more keep going see that far keep going down one more right there on the bottom left right there to the left this video probably made me the most money until they demonetized it
Starting point is 01:04:49 really this was like let's go Brandon like let's go Brandon was crazy oh yeah I remember this video but this isn't like hey you know I'm paying everybody $10 an hour to come out like these people really genuinely rock with us in the moment in Trump. And, you know, it's just being the same person
Starting point is 01:05:06 these people always see. But there's nothing wrong with this video for it to be demonetized. No. Because it says fuck. No. Like, every video in the world is fucking. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Trump's probably not demonetized. You know, so it was just something, though, that did. But I always just try to put the people in the video and involve them in what I'm doing, you know? Yeah. And also, you know, that if you got a video with 200 people, it starts off with 200 shares. What do you think about the
Starting point is 01:05:32 What do you think about the whole QAnon thing? Did you see that Q&N documentary? Yeah, so one of the guys from there But I've never really been big on that Like, you know, Trump's coming back two months, three months, three months, like I don't get lost in it But I mean, it's pretty deep. I wouldn't say I'm not really in that.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I'm not hating on someone who is But I'm not, like, I just haven't even took a second. Like you got to spend a lot of time on that, you know what I mean? Yeah. And they get in. And then I'd be rapping about like, they're already saying I'm rapping about, you know, false narratives and medical misinformation and voter. You know, if I start rapping whatever they're talking about, my video's not even going to get released.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Yeah, that's true. But the guy actually in one of my videos who got locked up, had the horns at the Capitol that day. Yeah. He's in my video. I shot on January 6th. And I think he knows a lot with the Q on stuff. I think he's still in prison, isn't he? I think he got out or he got sentenced already.
Starting point is 01:06:27 He got sentenced. this problem was his spear not to speak too much on his stuff I'm not 100% sure but his spear had like he had the spear and if you look at videos of him in there he's just like I want to charge my phone he's walking around like I'm at the desk da da da
Starting point is 01:06:42 I think he left a note for somebody and that was a problem and the spear they used that as like a deadly weapon so you're not does in here anymore I listened to an interview with that guy seemed kind of fucking wacky he seemed like he was like super into psychedelics and stuff like
Starting point is 01:06:58 and the super end to like, you know, all these crazy. But I didn't really know much about, you know, that's a thing. So I might have a video and you might have robbed a bank and you're my music video. It doesn't mean I rock with bank robbers. Like you're my video, you know what I'm saying? So some people came to me about some of the videos on January 6th and said, yo, you got my people in trouble. And I'm like, well, they shouldn't have been the music video. They shouldn't have been in the music videos.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Yeah. I'm not telling you everybody video time. You want to be a star and be in a music video. That's all you. So one guy, I know, got locked up for a long time. when he came to me, a lot of people were saying delete the video because he's getting him in trouble and physically him. So I never said that.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I shouldn't have got on that video. I was in the video. And then later on, he's in my music video. Then they got to picture him in the Capitol. So they're able to say, that is you on that day because you're also out here in this video. Yeah. Right? We, we, we, uh, we, uh, I have a friend who's on this podcast.
Starting point is 01:07:47 He's a lawyer and he, um, represented a guy that was, went to the January 6 riots. And my buddy who's a lawyer, he's, uh, a Democrat. a lifelong Democrat. He's like he considers himself very liberal and like left leaning. And he represented this guy, um, who was a part of the whole rides. He got charged with he got charged with throwing a fire hydrant and a cop, I think, which was some sort of battery. But he like, dude, literally, there's footage of me. He threw a fucking fire hydrant. Some people out there were just doing the most. You know what I'm saying? And, uh, he said that when he first met the guy, like, he had no problem representing him. Like, he's not one of those people
Starting point is 01:08:23 who's like crazy. But he invited him to his house. they met and they talked about it and he said this guy started talking about, you know, Patriot, this, I'm a Patriot, I'm a real patriot. And he was like, dude, shut up. He's like, we're all, like, stop trying to, like, say that you're the only Patriot. He's like, we're all patriots. So that's one of the things he realized, like, that's one of the things that shocked him that kind of like stood out to me when I talked to him. He was like, it's so crazy. I feel like, cool that he represented him still not having the same belief though. Yeah, he's like, you don't have to like, he said to him, he said to him, like, you don't have to
Starting point is 01:08:53 keep saying that you're a patriot and that all you guys are patriots. He's like, he's like, I'm a patriot too. Just because I'm a Democrat doesn't mean I'm not a patriot. Just because I don't agree with everything that you did. He's like, I'm still here fucking being your lawyer working pro bono for you. And pro bono, that's crazy. And I'm saying. And that's what some people don't get.
Starting point is 01:09:09 That's what I was trying to say. That's great to hear a story from the other side that someone still can look at somebody's livelihood. But it's rare. It's rare. It's rare, but it's still amazing to hear. And I'm glad you gave a shout out about it because that might open some other people's minds and say, well, yeah, you know. There's been people that weren't pro-Trump, like that we've, lost relationships.
Starting point is 01:09:28 And now they're like, yo, what's up, bro? Let's go to Hooters. Or like, yo, what's up, man? How's the music going? And I'm like, you know, I'm not going to be like, no, I'm never talking to you again because you didn't talk to me because I like Trump. Yeah, what's up, bro, what's chill?
Starting point is 01:09:40 And now they're like, man, I was wrong by Trump, man. Or I'd just take it. You know what I'm saying? We can still kick it. You know what I'm saying? Things happen to people every day. You know what I mean? If COVID was so crazy, we all could have got COVID and died and never would have seen y'all again.
Starting point is 01:09:56 I like being able to see you and see how far you then came and see the podcast, see your numbers go crazy. I like being able to go watch the videos and tell people like, yeah, go watch this first video I did over here. Like I send that video to a lot of people that is day still. It's just a growth. And you can go watch that video and then watch me now. I'm a different person. I've grown up, which is the way it's supposed to be. Like, yeah, we all fight for the same country and we might have different thoughts why it's going on.
Starting point is 01:10:22 But I'll be the first person to say when something's wrong and I don't agree with it. I don't agree with everything Trump does. Trump's pushing the vaccine. I don't like the vaccine. But when I go for a president, he's pushing it. Yeah, he's behind it. Johnson and Johnson.
Starting point is 01:10:34 He's praised him the other day. But my biggest thing is Trump's not pushing a vaccine mandate. See? You could be pro-vaccine. My family members got a vaccine. They still got COVID, but they got a vaccine.
Starting point is 01:10:46 That's not my problem. My problem is when you mandate something. You want to take a vaccine. Go ahead, my brother. If I don't want to take a vaccine to make a song about it, you can go make a song and how much you love vaccine. They did it. They did it with a juvenile, and I think Manny Fresh or whatever. They did
Starting point is 01:11:00 this redone. Well, that's all, and then they get demonetized. And they're talking about vaccines. What about the people that think that's medical misinformation? They don't care. Right? But I got a song, no vaccine. So we should all be able to do what we do. But when I tell you, hey, you're going to have to keep this job. You got to get a vaccination. Because what? Why? Well, they're going to give me so much money as a bonus if I get everyone that works with your vaccine. What are my friends works out in the trade wins, right? And he was like, I'm going to do a big this weekend with show. I got $500 extra on my paycheck.
Starting point is 01:11:32 I'm like, from what? Because I took that vaccine. And I'm like, what? You took, I miss being real. Not a hate it. It's just $500. So that's like me telling you, say me and you sell drugs. And I'm like, bro, we're paying all this money for this work.
Starting point is 01:11:47 But me, I learned how to make it myself. Right. So check this out. You give you $500. Take this. Tell me what it does. I'll see you tomorrow. you're going to risk your whole life for $500 from me?
Starting point is 01:11:59 I know a guy who's a cop who got paid. He got the vaccine. He said he didn't want to get it, but they paid him to do it. It's tough. Tough decision. Sometimes people got to take care of their kids and their families. It's a decision that he should never had to make.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Well, I mean, it's a decision that, I mean, it's all wealth. It's all social. It's like your, it's like your status as far as like how much money you make.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Like the poor people, like people low income, cop, a lot of cops are really low income. Which is terrible because they don't get the choice. Job is the world. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:25 I got tons of Back to Blue songs. I support the police. I remember back in the day, the police had pulled me over when I was younger. I never did drugs, never did anything crazy. So I never was really worried, but it was more like no seatbelts or like riding with loud music or two dark tent.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Now cops pulled me over and they gave me their badges. Like from back in the day, like, hey, blah, I love you, back to Blue Song. This is where I got my first job over here in San Antonio. Now I work on Terra Verdi. You know what I mean? And it's my biggest thing is with the police. I got tattoos on my face.
Starting point is 01:12:55 I'm driving a car that's black tint you can't see in, big rims on it, right? I'm not getting pulled over with no driver's license or smoking weed or drinking. Maybe if I was getting pulled over and weed smells out of my car and I'm drinking out of a styrophone cup. I'm like, I don't got an ID. Then certain questions should come up, right? Police officers every day go to work not knowing they're going to come back on. They have the worst job in America. Worst job.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Imagine having to deal with all the shit that you deal with on a daily than deal with my shit, right? You could be a police officer and going through with your family, find out your wife cheated on you, you know what I'm saying? Or you've got double life going or kids are sick or, you know, shit happens. And then go deal with my problems today. And my problems should just be so easy to deal with it because you have no problem because you're a police officer. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Right. Or going to tell somebody, hey, your kid's day. He's not coming home again. Yeah. You know, that's a tough, tough, tough job to do for what they get paid. And also go against the whole world because it's like they already don't like you because you're a police officer. Now there are some bad cops, but there's bad.
Starting point is 01:13:55 There's bad teachers. There's bad doctors. There's bad humans. There's bad Americans. Right? But their biggest thing is trying to make this, to me, like a communist country. So they want to right now take all these businesses like me and you that got our own brands and make it. We're only going to do two podcasts. Right. So like, when I'm a funny thing to talk about this, so the late show, you ever seen that? The Late Show. Which Late Show? It's called The Late Show on TV. It's a big TV station. Big show. Not the Late Night Show, but the Late Show. I forget his name. Is it like Stephen Colbert?
Starting point is 01:14:25 Stephen Colbert. He took my Matt Gates video, right? You can pull it up and show them this. He took my Matt Gates video and ran it on their show, muted my words and did a parody to it, saying that like I'm buying pedophiles, pedophiles and all this stuff. So it was funny because they're trying to say that Matt Gates' scandal,
Starting point is 01:14:46 he hired these rappers to get pedophiles rap music for him, right? But let's look at it from our view. There's people in the world that are being trained. trafficked. There's people in the world that are being raped and taken advantage of and have problems every day. So you're fighting so hard against people that are pedophiles and all these issues, but you thought it was funny to make a parody out of pedophiles?
Starting point is 01:15:07 This is funny to run on this huge show. This is on TV. This is on his YouTube, but he ran this on his real show. Really? You don't think this is a defamation of character? So there's me and my boy J-360 song, right? But you think this is funny to put on the national TV? to do a parody of what we're doing for Matt Gates.
Starting point is 01:15:29 So why is it funny to rap about the people that are really going through this? It's not funny. So you see this is your footage? Yeah, our footage. They took our video. It's me and my boy J-360. And that's Matt Gates showed him to my show at CPEC. And we shot a video with him.
Starting point is 01:15:50 But where are you guys at right there? Am I show at C-Pek? What? In our window? Yeah. What's the name of the nightclub? not too sure so like didn't think about pedophog zebras i said what you know what i mean these are different words and they threw all this other stuff in the video right yeah and it like
Starting point is 01:16:13 has him like he's buying women so my only question is when is it okay for the left to do that and make a mockery out of people really going through that just for their late-night tv show our words were nothing like that but you're going to take it and make fun of the people that are really going through that yeah it's always okay Because it's the left. This is a huge, huge show. Of course. So I get write-ups like on the top of Yahoo business, business management, the insider, the vice, all these big name people talk about me.
Starting point is 01:16:44 And I can't even talk about nothing because I'm demonetized, the platform. So all these guys hit you up to do interviews? No, they just hit me up. Or they just kind of like just write about you? Take my stuff. Yeah, it's still. Vice and people like that came out here. Vice actually interviewed me.
Starting point is 01:16:59 These guys just do like opinion pieces. on you. Yeah, but I mean, that's like, so people could say like, well, that's as big as it gets, so it's like, hey, it's good. They're still talking about you. Right? But it's not that, because you're painting me as being pro that now. So that's
Starting point is 01:17:14 defamation of the character. It's fine. That's a lawsuit for him. You can't take my words and change my word and say that I'm rapping, let's go pedophiles. That's unfair. Now, watch if I took his late night TV show and said, I hate black people, I hate minorities,
Starting point is 01:17:30 I hate the gays, I hate this, and then put on my YouTube channel and say, look what he said. Yeah, they'd be all over you. I'd have a big problem. Yeah. Right. Right. But at some point, they think they can just do whatever they want to us because we're still a little fish in the pond. You're independent.
Starting point is 01:17:46 These guys are backed by a major massive corporation. So, like, who would sit around and say, hey, you know, some geek somewhere that works for that show. And they're like, hey, we're going to pay you to write some bars to come in and rewrap this song over it, a couple thousand bucks and think it's funny. Have you seen the interview or listen to the interview that Malcolm X did about liberals, about white liberals? No. I got to send that to you, Austin, so you can play this. It's pretty fucking wild. I just watched this documentary by this guy named Adam Curtis.
Starting point is 01:18:16 It's called Can't Get You Out of my head. And it goes back to Mao and his wife when he created the CCP in China and how it relates to U.S. politics. Oh, this is another thing I've got to show you, too. I'm going to send two things to you, Austin. First, first play the... Will I be able to hear the words? Yeah, he's going to turn the volume up. Where did you see this at?
Starting point is 01:18:42 This was a... This documentary I just told you about... That's called Don't... I can't get you out of my head by Adam Curtis. He works for the BBC. This is a documentary that he did about in 2001. So what's crazy is like a lot of people over there from the BBC, they come over here and they shoot stories on me.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Then they sell the stories. Really? The BBC does? Yeah, I've did a lot of stuff from them on here So they come over here and they sell stories So they don't just come around me and I'll be like Where's this going on? And they'll be like, we don't know We're just going to come over here and ride around with you for a couple of days
Starting point is 01:19:15 Go to the studio Meet your people You just do it right You don't have to ask too many questions Because you know that pretty much 90% people are just going to They're going to shit talk you right? Yeah, they're working on some of my great thing that's coming I don't know about
Starting point is 01:19:27 You know? Yeah I don't do nothing illegal. I'm not reworded about nothing. Right, right. But the end of the day, it's like, they just hit me up. Like, you know, we're doing a documentary on a couple of things. We want you to come.
Starting point is 01:19:39 There's, there's like, so the one you guys put out on me, when you don't looking at this, I'll show you someone did a spin off on you. Did they really? From the BBC. They came here and they rode around in the car with me and talked and did all this stuff. I had people emailing me asking me to send them footage. They were trying to license some of that footage that I shot for something they were doing. I forget what it was, but it was some European production company. Yeah, a lot of times they come over here and they won't tell them what they're doing it for.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Yeah, play this. This is fucking bonkers. Turn the volume up. You have to take off one of your earpieces because we can't pipe it through the audio yet. In this crooked game of power politics here in America, the Negro, namely the race problem, integration, civil rights issues, are all nothing but tools used by the whites who call themselves liberals against another. group of whites who call themselves conservatives, either to get into power or to retain power. Among whites here in America, the political teams are no longer divided into Democrats and Republicans.
Starting point is 01:20:46 The whites who are now struggling for control of the American political throne are divided into liberal and conservative kings. The white liberals from both parties cross party lines to work together toward the same goal. And white conservatives from both parties do likewise. The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way. The liberal is more deceitful, more hypocritical than the conservatives. Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the art of posing as the Negro's friend and benefactor.
Starting point is 01:21:26 And by winning the friendship in support of the Negro, the white liberal, the white liberal, is able to use the Negro as a pawn or a weapon in this political football game that is constantly raging between the white liberals and the white conservatives. The American Negro is nothing but a political football, and the white liberals control this ball through tricks or tokenism, false promises of integration and civil rights. In this game of deceiving and using the American Negro, the white liberals have complete cooperation of the Negro civil rights leaders who sell our people out for a few crumbs of token recognition, token games, token progress. How fucking crazy is that?
Starting point is 01:22:16 I mean, honestly... Did you even know that existed? No, but what I'm trying to say is that's your normal thing now. I mean, that's just the blackface. You know what I mean? With the, you know, the whole party with the black. face is trying to give people just a little bit just to make them feel like, you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:22:29 that they're there and they got their back. And a lot of people these days are breaking from those chains and being like, no, I want bigger things. I can see bigger things. That's what the Democrats in the left the like what this document. This documentary really shows how during the 1960s during like the counter, the counterculture rise up. It's a football game like it
Starting point is 01:22:47 is. It's a political football game and he says it shows how like the conservatives or the Republicans kind of they had the strangle hold on the economy. Right. And the left, the only thing they could do was they like embedded themselves in culture and art. Like they embedded themselves in the counterculture in the art. The people who are more about that kind of stuff and not about money. And they basically used that or weaponized that and used that as their sort of ammunition to come back.
Starting point is 01:23:18 And they basically are using the culture. The culture. They're using musicians. and performing. All the people are trying to perform. You know, like at Joe Biden rally, he's still only like 20 people at it. Like, I've never seen a Joe Bada rally.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Let's just give it. Like, I've never seen it. But it's so insane. I've never seen a Joe Biden truck. I never even see people riding around on bottom flags. Right. It's just so insane how Malcolm X fucking was on it.
Starting point is 01:23:41 This is ahead of its time. Said this way back in the day. And it's still relevant. I feel like Marwether King or somebody that would have been down with Trump. They wouldn't have been down with this crap that they're kicking. You know, right now, they wouldn't have been down with this crap they're kicking. I mean,
Starting point is 01:23:54 even like this. Remember last year when people were getting the the PPP loans? Whoa, what the fuck? Yo. I don't come through the TV. That's crazy. What the fuck? I used to wrap an auto tone on, but hey. Oh, Austin.
Starting point is 01:24:06 You, what the fuck? Have you done, Austin? Jesus. That was next level. Yo. Are we good? Are we good? How do we sound?
Starting point is 01:24:19 Oh, you changed your audio. You changed your monitors. On your headphones. What did you do? How did that happen? Change the output. Oh, okay, I see what you did. So we're back going?
Starting point is 01:24:32 Yeah, I think we're good. Okay, so remember, like, the PPP loans. Yeah. Right? They really were, like, a setup for a lot of people. So it's normal, like, the normal tax drops. So, you know, you might got one person that's like, hey, I'm getting these PVP loans and everybody's getting, like, $20,000, $30,000, right?
Starting point is 01:24:48 So then they're like, okay, how do I get these? How do I get these? Well, someone will come to the neighborhood and say, I get you guys all the loans, but I need $5,000 out of your money. money, right? You don't know what these people are filling out for you to get this $20,000. Right. So the next time around when Joe Biden's sitting there and everybody's going to do their taxes and the people that are on welfare and the people that are getting Medicaid, they're like, well, you don't get that no more.
Starting point is 01:25:12 What happened to Charlie's Grass Service that made $100,000 and you got a PPP loan for it? Like, people fall for their tricks. It's going to come back and bite a lot of people in their ass that did that. Tom Brady got a PPP loan, I heard. Yeah. Well, some people, what we probably did with his business saying he lost, and it doesn't matter how much money you're worth or you're making. If your company took a hit, it took a hit.
Starting point is 01:25:32 It became free money when a lot of people, I know people that didn't go get them because they were like, I know I'm going to get like a millie or whatever, some wealthy people, and I might blow it on something or whatever, and they're going to pay it back. They got a lot of people pissed off when they realized they weren't getting paid back. Because, say, if you had a company and you got a million dollars on it,
Starting point is 01:25:51 how many companies can sell today for a million dollars? Not that many. So you could just close the door and got a million dollars to your company and said, peace. Right. It's out. Right. You got a million from my company. Like bankrupt it?
Starting point is 01:26:01 Yeah. I'm out of here. So, but a lot of people signed up for that little bit of money. And it's had someone that knew how to do it. Oh, I'll tell you how to do it. But you're not looking at what they're putting down. They're just thinking $20,000. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:12 And now next time you know that that income housing they're living in or whatever it is down the line, they're going to be like, it's going to catch up the people. Yeah. And they're going to be like, damn, I'd have sold out for $20,000. Because they're going to say, well, it says you got a boutique that makes $90,000 here. So you can't get the free benefits anymore, the Medicare. You got to pay this and pay that. Well, that's not true.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Well, you took the money. It's not true. You go to jail. Yeah. A lot of people. A lot of people. I've seen some people on there like getting Lamborghini, all kinds of stuff. They were just living it up for the moment.
Starting point is 01:26:44 But it's just kind of crazy. I feel like how they try to, like you said, use the culture. But they also trick a lot of people that don't know any better. you know they don't tell them hey do this but there is a shot that you could get in a lot of trouble for doing this too it's just like do this it's gonna be great here and just fill it out it give you 20 grand what do you think what do you think it would take to close the gap with like the division it's close i feel it's closing and that's because i see it do you think trump should do anything different this time around i think what trump's doing is great because even something as stupid
Starting point is 01:27:18 as gay people to list him you this and that if you were a regular person or say he was a dope boy, whatever it was. Trump gave you $1,200 to go flip. He gave you some money. The last stimulus check. That's what David Lucas said. The last a bit of money he was trying to give you, Nancy P. was holding it back because she knew if Trump gave them one more stimulus,
Starting point is 01:27:35 probably blew the election. Trump wanted to give you the money. Nancy P. didn't give them the money. Biden would rather give a fucking $10 billion to Ukraine. Well, like, look at this. We can get a couple million dollars to build a wall, but we can build a wall for Ukraine. Right. Exactly. Yeah, we can send all that.
Starting point is 01:27:51 We can send all that money to Ukraine. You know what I mean? That's beyond crazy. And imagine this to say, if, like, Hunter Biden was a Trump. If he was. Was a Hunter Trump. Right. Imagine if he had Trump behind his name.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Like, shit he would be in. I see the crazy. I see, like, stuff come across the internet on him. They're like, him like, you know, beating people with whips and all the types of sexual stuff. Who, Hunter Biden? Yeah. Like, people are like, you know, click play Hunter Biden footage. I don't even want it on my computer.
Starting point is 01:28:17 I'm like, hell no. But the thing is, it's like, if any of, you know, if any of, you know, junior or any of the Trump's had a laptop, man, it'd be over for them, man. Yeah. It'd be in a lot of trouble. Trump can't get away with nothing. So I feel like they don't got nothing on Trump because they did. He'd be locked up.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Yeah. They'd have the puts from them. Going back now, I mean, hindsight's always 20-20, but going back now and like seeing some of the things that Trump did say, like, especially during the debate, because he was fucking going out. He was really going after Biden about the Ukraine and the China stuff, about how much money. I'm making money over there. How much money they were making over there.
Starting point is 01:28:51 with his son being the side deals Patriots keep your eyes peeled You know what I mean Have you seen that I don't know if you've ever seen it But there's a documentary Oliver Stone did About Ukraine called Ukraine on fire I haven't seen it yet
Starting point is 01:29:04 Did it as it new? No he made it Probably in 20 I think I want to say he made it like 2015 or 2014 So early Yeah What's it on?
Starting point is 01:29:16 It was on YouTube But as soon as the Ukraine thing start to hit? Yeah, that's what it is. Oh, 2016. As soon as the Ukraine thing start to pop off early this year, YouTube, YouTube, it fucking shut it off, it turned it off YouTube. They fucking blocked it. Well, that's like 2000 mules. The movie just came out I was telling you about from my boy Dinesh. It shows pretty much about, you know, the stealing of the votes and the ballots and the mules. And they're doing a big tech and everything's doing whatever they can do to censor it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And they have my song, 2000 mules in the movie, which is dope.
Starting point is 01:29:48 So the other day, like I see the song airing and Trump's up on stage and the songs playing the credits. It's cool, man. You know, I'm doing some shows with them performing. But I just feel like... Two thousand mules is the name of it? Two thousand meals. Can you find that, Austin? Pull that up?
Starting point is 01:30:02 So I feel like freedom of speeches is gone. Yeah. Do you think Elon will be good for it? Everyone's so quick to be like, Elon, Elon, like, you know what I'm saying? He's not a diehard Republican. He came out today saying he's going to vote red. You know what I mean? I read that for.
Starting point is 01:30:18 before I got here, but that's some, the problems with people sometimes. They're just so quick to, like, jump on the team, you know what I'm saying? I'll be like, oh, that's what we're doing. You never know if he's part of their plan. Do you like Elon? I like him. I like him because he's a hustler. I like anybody, I mean, make the Tesla's, you can do this and that.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Like, he's genius. Do you think he'll be good for Twitter, though? I don't use Twitter, so I don't really care. I hope he buys Instagram and freeze my page. I just pay someone in London $7,000 from my Instagram page. He doesn't even use Instagram, I don't think. He's on there, I don't think. I don't think he has a page.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Everyone has a backup page. Yeah. The thing about Elon is he takes, he's pretty relying on the government. You know what I mean? With SpaceX. I mean, SpaceX launches military satellites. They use SpaceX to launch all their satellites and military shit in space. And Tesla is super relying on federal grants.
Starting point is 01:31:02 Well, I feel like everything has an agenda. You know, so everybody's so like, oh, he's bringing people back. Like, check it out. When he bought Twitter, some people say he didn't fully buy it yet either. So I don't really know the story. I saw someone in the day that he backed out of it now because he got the attention right already. But say if he would have bought Twitter and it's done. Then he reached out to Trump like they say he did to bring him back on the platform.
Starting point is 01:31:28 What's bigger? Elon bringing Trump back to Twitter or buying Twitter? Bring your Trump back. Bringing Trump back for sure. So someone like Trump isn't going to give you that power because he don't really know if you should get that power. Well, Trump said he's not going to do it, right? No, he's not going to do it. But if I was Trump, I would have said, cool, I want 20% of Twitter.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Here's the money for it. Exactly. Right? Yeah. And they were probably like, no. And then Trump's also like, I'm going to make you a super, super star now by being the first one to bring me back. I don't need you to bring me back nowhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:56 I'm Donald Trump. So Trump might go back there free six months later on his own. Yeah. Then that, unless it was rolled out a little better, like, hey, big Trump, man, I got your back. You know what I mean? And I'm loyal. And I'm going to show you I'm loyal to bring you back on here. There's no hidden agenda.
Starting point is 01:32:10 I'm going to give you 20% of this Twitter. Yeah. Just because. And then Twitter would have went through the roof. So. How fucking crazy would that be? But bringing Trump ended up owning part of Twitter. But bringing Trump back to Twitter would have been bigger than buying Twitter.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Yeah. That's why Trump is the rock star of America. He knows his value. So look, yeah. So like in 2024, where I tell you when he comes back, he's going to have the biggest rock star year of his life. People are going to have to rock with Trump. Yeah. So the people are that eat their words.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Now, the media, they're always going to, you know, fake news go at him. And your regular TV shows and your ratings. but Trump's the best things for ratings there is. Yeah. Hate him or love him. He's winning. You know, but so like Elon, I don't really know much about him, but a lot of, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:32:55 A lot of Patriots were so quick to be like, yeah, we're going back on Twitter and do all this and that. They're jumping on the Elon train. They are. But, I mean, I haven't. You know what I mean, my boy Bryson Gray put a song with questions to Elon. I thought it was pretty dope. With questions to Elon?
Starting point is 01:33:09 Yeah, like a song, like Elon, like you really would have got some questions for you to answer. You can pull it up. It's pretty cool. He did it. What were the questions? You got to watch them and hear him again. It was just like asking questions like he's really with us, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Are you just doing this for the clout? Are you doing this just to get a bunch of people on there and then switch it? You know, like what are you, what's your intentions? Yeah, I wonder that too. I mean, he's basically, I mean, he's probably, Trump was the most famous person in the world back when he was president. But now I think it's Elon. Elon gets more attention than anybody right now. Maybe at this moment.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Yeah, at this moment right now. That's why I was so confused when I saw the other day that the Twitter thing wasn't done. yet. But there's a lot of fake tabloids, so I don't really know if it's real or not. I'm not there. I'm not someone that's like, oh, yeah, he's official or I love him. I know I met him. I think what's happening is he basically signed like he put an intent to buy it at $54 a share or something like that. And then the CEO of Twitter is refusing to acknowledge how many of their users are bots. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, he wanted them to release some data. I think what Elon, because Elon's actually doing.
Starting point is 01:34:14 in something where he's like trying to sell off shares of SpaceX to actually buy Twitter. So I don't think he's trying to back out of the deal. I think Elon's trying to get it for a cheaper price. I think he's trying to get a discount on it. Which I saw that with saying some of the fakes, the fake bots or whatever. But it's just like you don't really know everybody's attentions until you, I feel like to you meet somebody.
Starting point is 01:34:31 That's why I told you like when I met Trump, I was just hoping that Trump was that dude, like honestly. But I've came out with songs and asked Trump questions. I said, you know, I wish big Trump would stop pushing the Vax. I was seeing them with fact check the facts. They always blame the Patriots. It was like a lot of.
Starting point is 01:34:44 People are like, whoa, why are you going to Trump? Like, you're going to vote? They don't give us like 85 presidents to pick from or 10 presidents. You got A or B. So us as men or females, whoever you are, you have to look at somebody and say, I agree eight out of 10, seven out of 10 with this person, 10 out of 10, whatever it is. And no, this is the best for me as a person in what I'm doing.
Starting point is 01:35:06 So I respect Trump than what he's doing the most. I'm not going to agree with everything Trump says because I'm not, and it's like, Trump said it's got to be gold. A lot of people are like that. Yeah, but I would have a problem with Trump if he started pushing the, like, Dr. Oz, that was a weird endorsement. What happened with Dr. I don't even know what that. Well, he endorsed Dr. Oz. And, you know, he'd be like, would be Goldberg and all them on their stuff.
Starting point is 01:35:26 But there's some other Republican candidates. But that was out there in Pennsylvania. And Trump kind of knew that he said that he might not be the best to most of the Republicans in their eyes, but he's the best for us to beat a Democrat. Right. So he's kind of playing his version of chess. strategizing to come back in 2024 when a lot of people were like I went and went with him and I don't know you can pull it up
Starting point is 01:35:49 I don't know if he even won with Trump's endorsement he was um last time I checked he was only winning by like Yeah it was really close And when it's so close they're going to do a recount Um But if Trump came out with like saying I'm going to mandate Everybody take a vaccine a lot of Patriots
Starting point is 01:36:04 would have a big problem with Trump You know As long as you're not forcing me to do something Like my body my choice right They all say my body my choice I can get an abortion if I want to get an abortion. If I want to get an abortion, my body my choice, take a vaccine.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Why is it not my body my choice to wear a mask? How did the fucking abortion thing get so political? That's so fucking dumb to me. In some ways, I mean, so you would think people should be able to have abortions? I don't fucking know. I just think it's a fuck. I don't think, I have no real stance on it. Obviously, it's a super, it's a super blurry line because when does, when to two cells
Starting point is 01:36:43 become a fucking person. I don't fucking know. I mean, it's a, it's a ethical, moral debate that I have no. I don't really have a hard stance on it. So me being a patriot, you know, I just keep a Jew myself, but I don't have kids. So it's kind of hard for me to really talk about like people's children and bills for children. That's all I did the don't say gay act. I felt bad because I'm thinking like, that's just too early.
Starting point is 01:37:05 I'm not going to tell you how to raise your kids, but like second grade, talk about a tranny coming in here as a cross-dresser. Yeah, fuck, nobody wants that. Kids do things for attention. This is an attention thing. You know, when I went to school, if you were, you know, gay or whatever, it wasn't like, hey, I'm gay and everybody's like, whoo, it was a quiet thing. Right. On the, you know, lowdown. Now it's like the most popular kid.
Starting point is 01:37:25 That's the attention. He's gay. He's got nail polish. Whatever. But it comes from the culture, playing the culture, making the rappers, paying their nails. You want all this money, whatever. So the abortion thing to me, it's like, it's tough because, you know, say if a woman was going to get killed by having a baby, you know, what if the baby would kill her. Right.
Starting point is 01:37:42 Right. But then some people say, well, that's... Whose life do you save? But people say that's very slim chances. Like, it's not a chance that we really think it is, but I'm not a doctor. So I don't really know there's some chances to take a stance on that. Right. Then again, say if a little girl or a boy, you know, was being molested and, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:58 the guy made the little boy have sex with her or the guy had sex with a little girl and she was raped. Right. That's a tough thing to put her through all that. But if you buy the Bible, she needs to go through all that and give the baby up for adoption. There's a lot of people out here to want. The Bible says if you get raped, you should have the baby. No, but I'm saying it's just abortions and people, you know, and in the day, you should always keep the baby.
Starting point is 01:38:20 It's a life. You know what I mean? But my part is like, I don't have, I'm not a female, so it's kind of hard to tell a female what to do with her body. Right. But if someone's out here having 10 abortions a year, that's like a serious red flag for the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:35 You know what I mean? That you're just out. Like I saw a song the other day by Meg Stalien called Plan B. Right? And it was like, I'm not getting stuck with you. You think you're going to keep me. I'm just playing you.
Starting point is 01:38:48 I'm getting your money, taking your cars, delivering the life with you, and I'm popping plan B's because this is my plan B. And that's just disgusting to me for kids to be singing that and hearing that. Like making these girls just think, oh, I could just have unprotected sex. Like everybody was so worried about COVID. Nobody's worried about AIDS.
Starting point is 01:39:05 No. People having unprotected sex like it's not a big deal. But COVID, whoa, you got to stay back. Got a mask? Yeah. Yeah, no, I know the weird thing about the abortion thing to me is just like people will take a stance just based on their political identity. They'll just be like, I'm Republican, so I'm anti-abortion. Meanwhile, the dude's fucking person's never thought about it for more than five minutes.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Well, there's difference. That's why politics is so weird. Yeah, and it is. And there's liberals the same way, too. Exactly. By the book. Me, I'm not the perfect patriot. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:39:34 Like, I'm who I am. I keep it real. You are the perfect patriot. Why would you say you're not the perfect patriot? No, I'm saying how somebody would paint. Like, I got to be like... You're saying Patriot is a Republican. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:44 How people would look at like what the statues are, you know what I mean? Like, I'm big two-way. There's no reason anybody should have the guns. Yeah. But then I don't feel great with anybody who's being able to carry a gun for any reason. Like, I feel like guns need training. You should have... Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:39:57 You should be trained to have a gun. I don't feel like just because you're not a criminal, anybody can carry a gun. Then that puts people, right? Like, the difference I try to tell people is like, do you think criminals are like, well, I can't carry a gun? Because I'm a felon. They're still carrying a gun. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:40:13 So you still need to have your gun on you. The laws don't do anything. I mean, the law is the right way. Well, they're trying to change the laws now that anybody can carry a gun, right? If you're not a family, you don't need any type of,
Starting point is 01:40:22 I wonder what would that change? How would, how do you think? Anybody could carry a gun. How do you think? What would change as far as? It's going to be all like Donkey Kong. People are going to be popping off.
Starting point is 01:40:32 And then it's quick. Like, the biggest thing is me. I keep my strap everywhere I go. Yeah. Right. I got nice stuff, nice cars. You never know what someone's going to do.
Starting point is 01:40:39 I'm not trying to take somebody's life over a Trump truck and you don't like Trump. But like if you're talking shit to me and now you can carry a gun, you got a gun to the window so when I see the gun, I'll shoot. Because you can shoot me first. You know, but we need guns for protection.
Starting point is 01:40:53 So like on that bill, I'm big two-A. Like the government should take our guns from us because then when they take our guns, these other countries are going to know we can't defend ourselves, they're pulling up. Not to mention our own government's pulling up. Our own government. Yeah, they're the biggest one.
Starting point is 01:41:06 So it's like... That's what Trump said in that interview. What was that interview that he, I think it was a Dave Portnoy interview that Trump did where he's talking about like getting shit done overseas with like different countries with like he's like Trump who is it who was the hardest to deal with was it China
Starting point is 01:41:21 was it Russia he's like no it's the fucking United States United States yeah and it was the thing he said he said that he's like you don't think that he's like you think these other countries are killers you think these fucking people in Russia and China are killers in China with this with this vaccine stuff over there and like them killing all the
Starting point is 01:41:39 Cats. Saw that. Oh my God. I've seen crazy videos that, like, pets had COVID, so they're killing them. Damn. You know what I mean? They had bags full of cats on the sidewalk. You know, I'm not, like, I don't have any pets.
Starting point is 01:41:51 I'm not very big on pets, but you know what I'm saying? You want to pet. You shouldn't be getting your cat killed because you had COVID. You know what I mean? That shit was crazy. So I'm big, I've gone two-way. I'm big on freedom of speech. But I think it's because my lifestyle, like, you know, I got a risk.
Starting point is 01:42:05 I got a name. I stand out. I want to be protected. I have a voice. I do a music. I don't want my speech taking, which it has been taken, right?
Starting point is 01:42:14 The whole abortion thing, you know, I've never had a child. I've never had anybody pregnant in my life. I haven't had to cross that path and where we look at, you know,
Starting point is 01:42:21 having a child. Because it's a life-changing experience. A child is a big thing, but I think that they should still have the baby. There's a lot of people out here that can't have kids. There's a lot of good people that want children.
Starting point is 01:42:31 And there's a lot of shitty parents that are just want to adopt kids and maybe get money. You know, you've got houses where they got eight kids adopted and they're just collect the money on these people. people.
Starting point is 01:42:39 You know, I saw some crazy thing on Netflix. I'm going to be seeing this. Our father. No, but it was about squatters because that is about a piece of property in Hudson. And I went up there and I got squatters on my property. And, man, I'm a different kind of person. I told them, look, you know what? Y'all can stay here.
Starting point is 01:42:55 But you know what? I'm getting a big dumpster here tomorrow and you guys are going to earn your keep up here. No more free win. I got this land. I'm not going to live here. Y'all can live here. You can stay in your little trail where you got here, but you're going to clean. I'm going to come up here.
Starting point is 01:43:06 You're going to paint all this spray paint at it right now. They got a shower. Like outside with a hose that says no stinky pussy spray painted on it. Like, you know what I mean? I told them we're not going to live like that. I could get you guys off it. But I'll let you all stay here, but you're going to clean up. So there's a Netflix thing that's like bad roommates.
Starting point is 01:43:22 It was about squatters. Right? And it had this lady on there. Do you see where she had like disabled people living in her house and she was murdering them? And they called like the worst roommate ever. Yeah. She was burying them in the backyard. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:34 What was she doing in the backyard? Bury and buried him. Like you would move in and you were disabled. And she was still getting your check every week for you. And she would open a new room for the new person. And people wonder where you went. She wouldn't say you were dead. She just keep your check for years.
Starting point is 01:43:47 And you're buried in her backyard. Yeah, that was crazy. And that whole thing was crazy. You know, roommates are a crazy thing. Yeah. But we're living in a world when we were kids. It was like their strangers stay away from them. And now we're like, get shit-faced drunk, take some drugs and call Uber or a stranger pick you.
Starting point is 01:44:03 I don't say. Yeah. You never know these days. Even like, you know, with the police, I was feeling. Like if somebody's getting pulled over, they want to drive to a Walmart or to a gas station with their blinker on and they're not drunk and they're not throwing anything out the window, there's no problem with it. They want to go to a safe place. Say a woman or somebody was getting pulled over and they're dressed half naked from somewhere and they're in the middle of the interstate somewhere. They shouldn't have to take that chance.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Right. A cop shouldn't want to take that chance. We'll just go 30 miles an hour to the next exit and get off and we both protect ourselves. Yeah. Sometimes I've gotten pulled over before, like I was driving to Tennessee for. a show and I was like going like a hundred miles an hour trying to get there in a quick shot and a lady pulled me over and it was like snowing a little bit and she didn't all she wanted was my ID and just make sure I didn't have anything crazy she didn't want to take it to the point where
Starting point is 01:44:52 she has checked the car and be there too long it was like we make sure you're not a fugitive or something when she could have said like well you know you have tattoos y'all smoke a weed you got weed in the car what's going on you got your artist in there like she didn't even want to get into that because there's six or seven of us and there's just her so it's not a great you know you're good place in time. So she was just like, I'm not even going to do that. So I just feel like sometimes people should, you know, be able to go to the safety net or do something like that because, you know, shit happens every day, man, out here. Not everybody's having a great day. Not everybody's the best kind of person. No. Yeah, man, this shit gets crazy. Especially when cops are, you know,
Starting point is 01:45:29 agro and paid low, not trained well, and they just want to fuck with you or do whatever. I mean, a lot of those guys aren't having, you know, don't have the best lives and aren't the happiest fucking citizens in our society. You know what I'm saying? It's like military. It's like a lot of things. But there's a lot of good people out there that are police officers that keep us protected every single day. And they do a lot of stuff. They take a lot of chances with their life to put us first when they're going home to their kids and their family.
Starting point is 01:45:56 So I always have respect for police. Like when I was younger, I would be, you know, get pulled over and I always think it was everyone's against me. Now I'm just like, man, I got to pay my ticket. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, okay, I was speeding. I'm not going to give you no excuse. Boom. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:08 I mean, I mostly get okay with the police that don't really give me any issues. Yeah. I'm pretty vocal for them, too, that I backed the blue. But I guarantee if I was doing something illegal, they'd pull me over. And, you know, like, a lot of people say, like, this happened, right? This person, so-and-so happened and then they got put over. But they leave out that, like, they had weapons. They were smoking weed.
Starting point is 01:46:28 They don't have no driver's license. Car's not registered. Yeah. Like, you know, shit that you're not allowed to be doing. Yeah. You're not allowed to do it. They forget all that from the story. Or they'll be like, you know, a black guy gunned down by a cop
Starting point is 01:46:42 when there's more white people been killed by police officers under Trump and they don't show those numbers. More whites have been gunned down by the police. They just show the black cases. That's because there's more white people, right? They just show the black cases because the black cases is clickbait and it gets attention. Yeah. They definitely do that.
Starting point is 01:46:58 But there also is a lot more white people. They're not going to care to be like, you know, Billy Bob got gunned down in his trailer park or in his nice neighborhood fighting with his ex. It's not stories. Yeah. They're not stories. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:10 So look at the mass shooter. Look at the mass shooter. The recent one? Yeah, I posted. What was the story with that guy? In Buffalo. RIP everybody on Buffalo. What was he?
Starting point is 01:47:19 But there's been like 10 black mass shooters that haven't hit the news in the last like two years. Have there? Yeah. I get my phone over there. I can get it a quick. I can show you a whole list. I posted it today. Yeah, you can go grab it.
Starting point is 01:47:30 All right. Yeah, grab it. So, yeah, I'm not sure. The camera could pick this up. Send it to just text it to me and I'll send it to Austin. I think I have you on my old phone. Oh yeah, I might not have your new number. I can air drop it to you, right?
Starting point is 01:47:58 Yeah, air drop it to me. You don't have to be connected to Wi-Fi for that, do you? No, I think so. I think it's Bluetooth. That's crazy because I thought most mass shooters were white people. Is that just fake news? Let me see if I have it. I said I thought they were most air drop.
Starting point is 01:48:40 says iPhone There you go, got it I found it Okay, I got it, boom So This doesn't make the news though This time of stuff So this is
Starting point is 01:49:04 Where did this come from Where did you get this screenshot? It was on a news site today So these are all mass shooters In 2022 That never The stories never made it Like to mainstream media
Starting point is 01:49:20 Google one of them. Who's this guy? Google. Oh, the Brooklyn subway guy. Oh, that was a fucking crazy story. That was all over the news. Yeah, but not as much as this one. They're not like white supremac.
Starting point is 01:49:42 They're not like a black supremacist was out. Yeah, they said he was a YouTuber, wasn't he? I think so. Now, that was crazy the other day. That was a Marxist. Like, what happened the other day, that's like a live video game. That was crazy. I watched the body cam footage of that shooting.
Starting point is 01:50:02 In Buffalo? It was crazy. One of my friends was like, oh, I found it on TV. I found it on the internet when it was going down and, like, FaceTime me, and I saw it. And I'm like, I'll ever show me that again pretty much. It was just correct. It was a body cam footage from a cop who showed up there. Yeah, it was like it was footage for the news got it.
Starting point is 01:50:19 It was just all over the internet. Someone said, yo, oh, wow, this is a live shooting going down. And what happened in the video? Like, what did it show? It just showed like they're showing the news now. Like him getting out of the car, walking right in, catching his first two people outside. Boom, boom, boom. walks inside.
Starting point is 01:50:32 Oh, is the body camera the shooter? Yeah, camera. Oh, you mean he had his own camera? Yeah, it was a camera of the footage. Holy fuck. You didn't see the... No, I didn't watch it.
Starting point is 01:50:42 I didn't see that either. So the thing is... See, if you could pull that up. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if they might have viruses on it, but... So what was his... What was his... that kid's story? I haven't read much into it yet, but I know they're like he's a white supremace and da-da-da-da-da-da. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:58 That's how they're on. Right. I'm not 100% sure. sure that everybody who shot that day was black either but I'm pretty sure there wasn't I'm pretty sure there was different races yeah I don't know I haven't looked into that story it was definitely a hate crime just to get out and kill
Starting point is 01:51:11 people yeah excuse me I'm just talking about they don't talk about they don't get the same media as everybody else because it doesn't get the attention it doesn't fit what's going on well it's hard to know what the fuck's going on I think since like the combine accident years ago it's like school shooters and shooters are white kids they made it yeah it's like you know I've heard
Starting point is 01:51:29 so many of my friends that are black playing around and they'd be like, he's going to grow up to be a school shooter. You know what I'm saying? Or I see like little things. Craziest thing happened today. Like, I was driving here, right? And there's a car in front of me. It's a truck.
Starting point is 01:51:43 And I see somebody like hanging out the window. So I'm thinking like, maybe they're saying, what's up? I see my car. And then as I look, I'm like, I see him with his finger going like this, right? Something I'm like, what the going on? What kind of car was a? A truck, like a tundra. He's out the window.
Starting point is 01:51:59 He's like looking in the window and, pop. right so I'm like then I look and it's a four-door you know truck so it's a kid in the backseat so I fall around it and then somebody's child out the window oh my god all the cars a kid yeah and I'm thinking of myself like damn the school shooter Jesus Christ I'm thinking of myself like what the hell's going on because I thought with somebody like knew who I was and they're like I'm going to shoot you whatever I'll go around them And when I got up to the window, he's out the window looking at me. He didn't do it to me because he saw the car and he's looking like, whoa, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:52:38 But I'm watching them far back the whole way this air shooting everything around. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's fucking wild, man. And some people play with it on video games like you're about to say. I never played a video game, but it just kind of- No, not in the video game. Never in your life? Never.
Starting point is 01:52:53 I might have played like some like Blitz or NBA jam when I was a kid, but not in the games. I got to be outside of the house. Never. I play with like Michael Vic a little bit. You don't fuck with the NFL, do you? I go to a lot of the games. I got season-up tickets. Okay.
Starting point is 01:53:06 Because it's more like Forge Outer blows in the house. That's a great place for independent artists to take 500 photos with Patriots and fans of mine. Yeah. Bring my truck outside. I park it all the way up on the hill and everybody comes outside for the pre-party. And it's like... Is that your favorite sport to watch football? Basketball is your favorite.
Starting point is 01:53:22 I'm sorry. They were one to put Black Lives Matter on the basketball court. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? I still watch hit or miss games, but... Well, NBA's got a way better commissioner than the NFL does. I think that guy's way better for sure.
Starting point is 01:53:33 I feel like the thing they did in the basketball was just crazy. It's like, you know, imagine if I had a white NBA basketball team. What's that? What if I had like a white basketball league? White basketballs matter on the basketball court. I don't think that's right. That's the right dead on the thing. Obviously, we know black lives matter.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Jewish lives matter. Spanish people matter. Mexican. I think that was more of a corporate thing that they did. I mean, obviously it's super hypocritical. But I think it's more like they're like so American, but their whole things in China. It's all about money. LeBron's like, stop the stance, but he's got every Chinese person in the world making his shoes and clothes.
Starting point is 01:54:05 Right. So pro-American, LeBron. Yeah. How much money are you donating to George Floyd's family? Right. You know? Yeah. Well, the thing is about, like, people like him, well, I mean, he's kind of an ex-heed.
Starting point is 01:54:19 He really doesn't have much of an excuse. But, like, a lot of these guys, like, a lot of these young NBA players and NFL players, these guys fucking aren't paying attention to politics. Not at all. They just see that fucking this black dude got fucking his throat kneeled on by a cop for. man, it's got killed. And they see that every other, every other... The same back dude, they put a gun to a pregnant person's belly, like, right, but they just see...
Starting point is 01:54:39 Right, but they don't know. They don't look into it. But I'm just saying, they should look into it. They get the miscommunication. Why, though? Because their fucking job is to play basketball or to play football. Like, their job is being better. Their job is the, we, the kids that look out to them in the community.
Starting point is 01:54:53 There's a lot of people to look up to these people. Yeah, right, but... Someone like LeBron... So, like, Kyle, Carl Rittenhouse gets out. He's free. and LeBron is making fun of him the whole time on the stand, eating skittles, sour skills, just crying and all right. When does he have the right to do that to somebody's child?
Starting point is 01:55:11 When that was an African-American kid up there fighting for his life, he would not have been acting like that. And to say, if I was like, oh, look at that dude. No, of course not. Look at that dude crying and laughing and doing all this. LeBron, I agree with you. I agree with you on LeBron. But I'm talking about most other NBA kids.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Most of these kids are in their early 20s. But most of those kids aren't the ones taking millions of dollars. Most of those kids aren't the ones taking a stand. It's the bigger players in the league forcing them to take a stand. I don't know. I mean. Like Kaepernick. Say, let's do school football.
Starting point is 01:55:38 Yeah, Kaepernick. Cap. He's Cap. He's cat. What did Antonio Brown say about him? He's all cat. He's not an outdoor. He ain't in the street.
Starting point is 01:55:46 He said. Funny thing is I was so pissed when the bucks lost Antonio Brown. I know. He's like the Trump of football. I was so pissed, bro. I love him. He's a Trump of football. He's so wild.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Literally, no. he's like the Alan Iverson with the Donald Trump mix. Like to walk off the way he did Throw his stuff in the crowd But it's like He's amazing He is amazing You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:56:06 And somebody would definitely pick him up When you have raw talent And sell tickets to make money Raw talent bro You gonna get picked up Someone gonna pick him up You think? I don't think somebody should pick him up
Starting point is 01:56:16 He said the other day that he was But not played Just retire he was a retire He was a retire of Pittsburgh I mean I think he still has years In him He's a stud
Starting point is 01:56:24 I'm saying I'm saying Something happened with him and Brady You know Brady got him the bucks i don't know i mean i know he was living in brady's house for a little bit he were saying brady hooked to me over tony robbins to try to get his mind right but i saw videos of him going through with his girl online and like sometimes you know i was signed an NFL football player
Starting point is 01:56:42 before thomas jones he's an NFL runnerback you know when everybody thinks rich white family of mine made my career i was signed an NFL football player that got me started and put his money into me that's wild that's a lot of people don't really know that's my first deal and um that's who really helped me who was it Thomas jones he was he was He was a running back for the bucks, the chiefs, the bears. Me and him don't have any talking, you know what I'm saying? We're not cool with each other. But I matter of his political beliefs or whatever,
Starting point is 01:57:10 I would never shit on him, anything I ever got on him, because he gave me an opportunity when nobody would. I signed for free. I took an opportunity. He had me out here doing songs of French Montana, a little dirk, had me living in his mansion, driving his Rolls Royces, Austin Martins. So when people think, like, oh, it's mommy and daddy money.
Starting point is 01:57:25 I was living with Thomas Jones, NFL football player, you know what I'm? tell me, hey, I left, I'm late to practice. My Lamborghini broke down on the interstate. Go pick it up. You know what I mean? I need you to watch this. So anybody whoever believes in you to put their own money and do, you've got to respect them.
Starting point is 01:57:39 But the concussions and stuff are crazy, I know, because I used to have conversation with Thomas Jones. He's similar to, like, the same build as Antonio. Oh, really? Small guy. Kind of small. Like my height made, but he's big, you know what I'm saying? He was from Virginia's family and mom were cold miners. He remember his cold modern son on his chest.
Starting point is 01:57:59 His brother was Julius Jones. He played for the Cowboys. But I learned a lot off seeing him. I mean, I saw how much money he was getting, what he was spending. We'd go to the club. We didn't want to spend a couple stacks on rap, but we could spell 10 bands on bottles. You know, because it was just like the lifestyle of having.
Starting point is 01:58:18 So my point was a lot of people in the football, they want to be rappers. So Antonio Brown, like, deep down, wants to be a rapper. He's got this song, I'm from the dirt, not the power. or something. The pit not the palace. And that joins hard. Yeah. The video's hard.
Starting point is 01:58:31 It's hard. Like, I like it. Like, I would do a feature with him. I think he would be pro-truth. You know what I mean? Yeah, probably. I love how he dropped it the minute he ran off the field. Yeah, I'm from the pit not.
Starting point is 01:58:41 You know, he's got a good PR guy. He's a marketer. Oh, yeah. He probably said that up. It's somebody else probably. But the end of the day is like when I was signed the Thomas Jones, we used have conversations and then he would just completely forget what we're talking about. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:52 And say, well, my bad, bro, what we were talking about? Yeah. Because they put their. body on the line. The point I was, I was getting at before with like the young younger guys, like in the NBA, for example, like when they put those big Black Lives Matter things across the floor on each side of the court and they put those things on the jersey, these kids who are like 19, 20 years old that are just like their dream is coming true. They're in the NBA or they're in the NFL. They're making almost, you know, say it's 500 grand to like $4 million for
Starting point is 01:59:21 the first time in their lives. When I was 20 years old, I didn't know fuck all about politics, nor did I care. I didn't know about it either. I agree. As I tell people, took me so you start making real money to get it. And they're making real money. That's the first day they're in it. But if the company that's paying me a million dollars and making me famous and is fulfilling every dream and all, and you're selling out for it, and every other guy I'm playing with is doing the same thing. You think of Charlie Chris came in me right now and said, well, I'll give you half a million dollars. I'll make a song about me and push it. I'll do it. Yeah, but you're not these guys. You're different. You're 37 years old.
Starting point is 01:59:55 You've learned you're educated. You know what I said. You're paying attention to things. These guys, these guys have tunnel vision. But I'm focusing on basketball. Yeah, I'm agreeing with you on it.
Starting point is 02:00:03 I'm agreeing with you. I'm agreeing with you is that it's the first opening. But I think that when you make your first amount of money is when you really start to really realize about taxes and do things the right way, take care of whatever debt you have. I feel like people start to mature when they start to get money. So these guys are young just getting that first check. I'm telling you like that.
Starting point is 02:00:23 Like, I'm agreeing with you. It didn't wait until I was. like 30 something to care about political stuff or care about what's going on. It may take you to have a child. I know you have kids, but you have a child to realize, okay, well, I'm going to pay attention more because this is to go with my kids' future or what's going on. So I agree. They're in tunnel vision.
Starting point is 02:00:39 They're just playing their sports. But the upper people know a lot better. And they should know a lot better. I think they mature once you get the money and you lose it. I think when you're young and you get the money, it fucking sends you even crazier down the immature lane. I think it makes you crazy. I think I was able to paint such a crazy lifestyle when I almost didn't even have the money.
Starting point is 02:00:57 When I got the money, everything's boring to me. And I'm able to, like, I was with Thomas Jones. I was with all this stuff. I've seen this. I don't have been to shows. I don't live with the lifestyle. It was like, right now, if I drove around in a Honda Civic, like an old car, people would think, like, well, he's got some cars somewhere else. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:01:14 I don't get the points. Like, well, he's got a Rose Royce. Like you said, well, you know, you're different. You're going to come a auto trader. Like, just because I came auto trade, I mean, I had to buy my Rose Royce. no one's just going to give you nothing people got to realize that that's a lot of problem people are not now i've been blessed to see some nice things so i know what nice things feel like that's what's a lot of my home boys instead of giving them money i'll take them on a row with me i'll take them to a show
Starting point is 02:01:35 sometimes people only go five blocks their whole life yeah it's crazy they know the corner store they know where they go through the hoop the ymca they know the street they got to clubs they know their school they know their neighborhood they go they have this car wash they go the same five blocks at 10 blocks and then maybe one vacation to Tallahassee or Miami with their family. I got homies, bro, in our 30s and never been on airplanes. My airplane. That we're flying?
Starting point is 02:02:00 I'm like, yeah. They're like, I never been on a plane, bro. I hop on a private plane. They're like, nervous. You know what I mean? I'm on jet. You know what I'm saying? It's like changed people's lives.
Starting point is 02:02:10 The smallest thing. Giving someone a little opportunity instead of just knocking them down, I feel as big. You know, then I do a lot of stuff for people and then I realize who's going to make it through who's not. Some people got all the town in the world As soon as I pulled my plug on them, back to square one Because they can't do it without somebody
Starting point is 02:02:26 Tell them, you can do it and doing it for them Yeah, all you got to do is You're surrounded with. Thanks, so I surrounded myself with some pretty well-known people Some billionaires, a couple millionaires And nobody ever gave me a cent But they gave me hell of opportunity And I took advantage of all the opportunity I could get
Starting point is 02:02:41 And it takes 10 years to be overnight success So I'll go, I'm 10 years in the game And people look at me like, man, you did it. But everyone's success is different So like what you might want to do with your life Might not be make money and do songs of Rick Ross And know Donald Trump And drive nice cars
Starting point is 02:02:56 And it might just be a piece of mind Which is cool You know what I mean Some people like want to rap They'd be like they would do anything Just to get a million views Right Or just to get a feature
Starting point is 02:03:07 Or even have a picture Or even have a picture with a big name artist Yeah Oh man I want to meet Kodak I got a song with Kodak It's cool I rock with Kodak But it's not like My daily thing
Starting point is 02:03:15 That's not like when I did The stuff with Ross I wanted to like that was like my dream. And then when I got done with it, I was like, what's next? I talk about it here and there,
Starting point is 02:03:24 but that was like my pitch at one time. I thought it was all Rick Ross, I'm saying? I do music, take me serious. The Magalane doesn't care about a song of Rick Ross. They didn't care about that. That's not my pitch.
Starting point is 02:03:35 The pitch is like, what are you changing? What are you doing for the country? So when a lot of these other people hit me up still to do features, they're like, why you charge in for verses? I'm a patriot.
Starting point is 02:03:43 Like, you may spend $250,000 like I did. You know what I mean? You're not invested. You didn't take a career. rear risk. You see it working. I've never seen you at a Trump rally.
Starting point is 02:03:52 I've never seen you out of here what people are doing. You just want to sit on your camera with a green screen to shoot music videos and go viral off what we're doing. I'm not rocking with that. Get out there in your city. I'm not going to a different city taking their rally. I don't do my own rallies here. I took my truck.
Starting point is 02:04:08 I started saying, everybody want to come, come. I started getting thousands of people showing up. So many people, they were nervous and had to delete me because they're trying to say that it's a cult because you can form a group of people. people that could go do something that could maybe do harm to people that's why we have to delete you pretty much so it's not so much your political views it's that you're telling thousand people to show up somewhere and you're demanding that you guys take the country back and
Starting point is 02:04:32 in words take the country back doesn't mean I'm going to go run on the white house tomorrow it means we're taking the country back oh in the vice article they said something about a song that you did that you were saying like let's go to war or something what was that what was that song it's a song I have now for my boy Enrique who was locked up and it just said Patriots be ready for war right but it's just like tell mom I'm coming home it's like any big song like war could be anything we are at war we're not at war where we're going to go hurt somebody we're just fighting we're at war with each other not so much at each other we're just at war fighting for our freedom we feel freedom of speech is gone it's like people could take anybody's words and flip them into something else you know what I mean
Starting point is 02:05:11 they can take it and run with it how they want to run with it so they try to make a big thing out of it and I didn't really like that. They asked me about it because they wanted me to be like, yeah, it's wartime. What's up? Like, you know what I mean? Which I want to do. I'm ready for whatever. Tell big trouble ready for war.
Starting point is 02:05:24 Yeah. I'm ready for war. They stole our election and we're ready to take the next one back. Right. Not saying that I'm ready to go get a bunch of guns and start a whole war. Yeah. But that's how they try to take like little things you do and make it a... Blow it out a portion.
Starting point is 02:05:39 Yeah. Well, what about, you know, six, nine, I'll shoot you in your face. Right, right. Talk to him. Yeah. And be a young boy, you know what about all these rappers that are rapping actually getting killed in their own cities? And then they're pussy because they don't got security. What about Dolf?
Starting point is 02:05:53 Yeah, that's crazy. That's a crazy thing. See, Dolf, I got a lot of love for Dolf because he's independent with it. He was grinding like me, built it up from the bottom. I've watched documentaries where they said that he had people who might have investors and this and that. It doesn't matter if you have somebody wants to invest in you. That's amazing. You mean to tell me, I got you.
Starting point is 02:06:11 He made a song. Didn't he make a song? He was like some people tried to kill him. him and he made a whole song basically making fun of him for not being able to kill him. Well, 100 shots. You missed a, how the hell you missed a whole hundred shots. But that's how he was, you know, you got to put that, that, that, that, that, that, that, um, that persona on when you want to be that dude. Right. When I go to D.C., I'm not out there like, oh, man, I'm from the internet. Everyone's going to see me. Someone's not going to like me. Oh, there's BLM. I better go.
Starting point is 02:06:37 I'm outside. What's up? You'll kill me in broad daylight and I'm going out like this. That's how I'm going to go out. I can't, you don't know when your time's coming. You just got to live. But all these other people that just have all these opinions are not even there. I don't want to hear it. You're not there. You're not seeing these people.
Starting point is 02:06:52 You don't know me personally to know my life story, how much shit I got to go through, how much free money I really get, you know what I mean? You think if I was getting free checks, I'd be out here selling baseball cats and say MAGA on them and my T-shirts and my CDs, think I'd give a shit. It's someone that said here's millions of dollars, man. Think I care about my country? No, I'd be one street away at the beach chilling all day. about nothing. I built an empire. I built a brand. I got to stand for something. I got people
Starting point is 02:07:20 to look to me and say, blow, what's next? They can't go to Trump. They might never meet Trump in their life, but they're going to meet me at a rally. Yeah. So they look at me as like, yo, well, blow's here. And I got respect for blows. So I got a lot of people dependent on me. I can't stop. Yeah, man. I don't know. I think if anything anyone's realized over the last, over since the time that Trump left and Biden's come in I think what it's done is sort of like shown how much of a
Starting point is 02:07:48 fucking mind virus the woke shit is you know I think there's more independent people coming up you know the mainstream media people don't trust it as much there's more independent people like us that are coming up doing their own whatever it might be podcasts or like interview shows or documentary series on YouTube or whatever it might be
Starting point is 02:08:06 mostly podcasts have come up more than anything crazy podcasts and and Everybody can, there's no gatekeepers. You can just, you can have a voice, talk about whatever the fuck you want. For now. For now. For now. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:16 For now. Because there was no gatekeepers of rap at one time. You know? When? In the very beginning, I think there was a gatekeeper with rap, like being independent. The labels. But I don't have a label. I'm billboard and going on charts and my office are selling.
Starting point is 02:08:29 Yeah. But in the beginning, early there was labels. There was labels, but I'm saying, I'm just trying to, yeah, I'm just trying to, well, back then it was like they had 20 artists. They gave you 20 artists. Right. Got DMX. We got Jagged Edge for R. and B and these people you're going to listen to.
Starting point is 02:08:41 We got camera on. Yeah. That was law. Whatever they get no limit. Whatever they put in front of you was law. You had to play it. 1006 and Par gave you 10 songs. That's the 10 songs you're going to put it on on CD and bump.
Starting point is 02:08:52 Right. Now you're trying to say. Now you can listen whatever you want. So I think podcasts has grown. I just feel like at one time they're going to make it so like, oh, you can't talk about this anymore. This can't be on Apple. Oh, they're already doing that.
Starting point is 02:09:03 I feel like they're going to start monitoring and be a little bit of a gaykeeper of what they're doing. I think this is the best thing ever. If you have a podcast talking about how much you love or hate Trump or politics or me, at least you're doing something with your life. I'm all for you. Right. I don't care.
Starting point is 02:09:17 Everybody can have their own opinion. But I feel like when I have my own opinion is a big problem. Yeah. Like I said, I think the biggest thing that's getting exposed and sort of like getting hung out to dry is the woke shit. I don't know. Maybe that is just me. No, I think it is. But I think across the board.
Starting point is 02:09:33 I think people on the left are starting to realize how much of a fucking mine virus that was. Thousand percent. I got people that hit me up now. I'm like, blow where you been? I'm like, my IG got deleted. They're like, damn. Yeah. Like, what?
Starting point is 02:09:44 I'm like, yeah, they banned me from social media. Yeah. They went too far with that, man. Feel me? That's exactly what they say. If they went too far banning, you should have been able to talk how you want to talk. Have you heard of the thing called, have you heard of horseshoe theory? No.
Starting point is 02:09:58 So there's this podcast. I heard this girl on this podcast. It's called the IDG podcast. It's fucking great. And she brings up this thing called horseshoe theory. And basically it's the story. of the bootlegger and the Baptist, or I think it's the Baptist and the bootlegor. What are the Baptists and the bootlegor have in common?
Starting point is 02:10:16 They both want alcohol to be illegal. The Baptist wants it to be illegal for moral and religious reasons. The bootlegger wants it to be illegal so he can make money selling it, right? So the KKK and woke leftists, there's a, the KKK and the woke, they both want segregation. There was the story of a school in Colorado. they had a playground where they'd pick a certain time of day every week for children of color to play. I swear to God, it's a real story. You can probably find it, Austin.
Starting point is 02:10:50 Find the school. And I got to find you, whoever giving you a TV show, you'll put me on three different shows to you to check out. Bro, there's a-I'm still watching Ozark. There's a legit school in Colorado who has a time of day every week for children of, children of color to play only. That's terrible. It's fucking segregation. So it's a horseshoe theory. That's what the KKK wants.
Starting point is 02:11:10 That's terrible. How fucking crazy is that? That's terrible. Anyways, that's horseshoot theory, and it fucking blew my mind when I... But I like the idea. You know, they want to be able to sell the alcohol. They want it for more reasons. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:21 But that's crazy to need that, you know, like... Completely opposite end of the spectrum. They come to the same fucking conclusion. Wow. So this is... Colorado Enter elementary school accused of segregation over playground for families of color. This is legit. Yeah, it's legit. scroll up awesome what the name of this the parents the parents aren't the one of fit about this
Starting point is 02:11:41 okay this is daily mail scroll down Denver Colorado elementary school has sparked outrage with segregated playtime for families of color at its playground the centennial elementary school organized the equity event for families of color to gather and play on December 8th but critics uh yeah but it's a real fucking thing I don't know if they're still doing it or not do it still doing it or not but it's a real fucking thing. Somebody had the idea. When was this from?
Starting point is 02:12:12 2021. 2021, yeah. Maybe not. But how fucking wild is that? That's what we, that's what we, I think. But we're still having problems no matter what with everything. Nothing's ever going to be all the way done. Right. But that's just disgusting that we still have people that think like that. Yeah. You know, that's what people don't think. I try to tell people, MAGA has no color. Like I told you when I came in here, they're all like, oh, there goes
Starting point is 02:12:34 to blow their white supremacists. All my friends are black. And they're, Trump supporters. And if they're kind of the white boys that I'm with, they're still urban white boys like myself. They don't show that on these messages. You know, vice and I was with two black people from my vice interview. They didn't put them in there. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:12:51 They're all, they're trying to, they're trying to pedal identity. They were there with me at the photo shoot. They didn't talk about us blow in two of his friends, African American friends. They talked about how much, they said you drank gallons of Dr. Pepper every day. Yeah. They said, I told them I was on it. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:07 They said that. Oh, my God, he said, blow, who drinks gallons of Coke and Dr. Pepper every day and eat Hooters. Yeah, I go to Hooters every day. But they said, I was making a bet with my friend. If I had a soda, I got to pay $1,000. But I told him, I don't drink it because they were like, let's get a drink. And the lady, the reporter, she smoked. So she was like, you got any weed.
Starting point is 02:13:29 I'm like, I don't smoke. And they were like, you know, you don't do drugs. They came for three days and they left two days, a day early because I wasn't entertaining enough. Yeah. Then they wanted to come to my house and they were mad at it let them come to my house in the long run. You didn't let them come to your house? No, but should I let them come? Should I go to their house?
Starting point is 02:13:45 The reason, so it was Easter. And I forgot it was Easter. I had a whole family there. Oh, really? So I was like, my family's at Easter. I don't need you to come to my house for. What do you need to come to my house for? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:54 You're already writing a hit smash piece on me. Right. I took you to the studio, took you to my cars. They said they wanted to see some cars. I'll pull six, seven cars up, tell where you want me to meet you? You do a vlog. Why do you want to come in my house for? We're going to put it in my house and leave there.
Starting point is 02:14:07 You don't need to cut in my house. I don't know you like that. Yeah. But I was going to let them come, but they didn't understand. They were pissed about that. Were they really? Yeah, they were pissed about it. But I had my sister who came in town, her husband, her, my, my nephews, my mom.
Starting point is 02:14:20 I had about 10 people in town. I forgot it was Easter Sunday because I'm, you know, you guys work like me. You're not thinking like, oh, I got a holiday coming up. You're just working. Then everybody's like, oh, it's a holiday. You're like, oh, okay. So I'll be there. And there was an issue when they were like, they were kind of a thing pissed off about it.
Starting point is 02:14:34 but why you need to come to my house you want to see why I take a shit maybe they wanted to fucking bug it party going to hang out in the pool or something I wanted to bug it oh to bug your house who knows what they wanted to do
Starting point is 02:14:47 yeah well bro thanks for doing this man I sweep my rolls Royce after they got out of every bug did you really yeah took a roll that's they run sweet just joined for me one time
Starting point is 02:14:55 dude it's funny if you read the comments on any vice video now it's just like they fucking any post vice does especially on Instagram just read the fucking comments they just shit on them I enjoy it.
Starting point is 02:15:06 I enjoyed that, you know, people like, you know, even someone like, you know, me and you might not have every same view, but we could still be cool, see each other four years later and still be like, you know, I'm not saying you like Trump or not, but you might not be a diehard Trump or whatever, but you could still be like, I blow him, can cut on my podcast. Hell yeah. And chop it up with me and have a, you know, discussion about stuff. That's, you know, people don't do that these days.
Starting point is 02:15:29 So I appreciate you guys. I appreciate the listeners. Hell yeah, man. Appreciate everybody. Tell everyone. watching or listening where they can find your shit if they don't already know. YouTube, 4G-A-O-Blow, F-O-R-G-I-A-T-O-B-O-O-B-O. And then Instagram, it's Mayor Blow, and Forge-O-D-O-B-U-S-A for some merch.
Starting point is 02:15:48 And make sure you follow these boys. They're doing a good job. I mean, I know y'all are huge, but I remember back when you were working with Ben and all these people, y'all were doing your thing. And it's just great to see you guys, like, get out of that situation, whatever, and then still keep your stuff. Because I feel like when people start, they have, like, key factor what they're building off.
Starting point is 02:16:06 Yeah, for sure. That's what y'all. You got to find somebody. That's why some people come to me. It's like he's entertaining, whatever. So I thought it was super cool when y'all started doing your own thing. And look where it's built, man. It's like y'all doing y'all the next thing up, I feel.
Starting point is 02:16:18 Thanks, man. I really appreciate that. Yeah, sir. Appreciate y'all. All right. Goodbye, everybody. Peace.

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