Danny Jones Podcast - #143 - It's a Good Time to Commit Mortgage Fraud | Matthew Cox

Episode Date: June 28, 2022

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So listen. Jesus, God Almighty. So listen, I got a kid name. I know, let's bless the podcast. It's wet in there. It sounds wrong with you, too. That's horrible. We're from Florida.

That's horrible. I'm from Florida. What is going on with you guys? We've done some shit. So, oh, it's horrible. It's horrible. Woo! My eyes are water.

About to start water. Mine are watering. Wow, that was the worst one I ever did. Did it hit your eyes? Did it get your eyes? That's the worst one to get your eyes, bro. My eyes were burning for like two days after I did it at Bubba's place. Don't get them mixed up.

It's Russian roulette right here, bud. Some people are telling me that you, I have you on here too much. Is that true? I mean, I think for every one of those guys, there's ten guys saying you should have me on here more. Yeah, that is true. That's true. Even Bubba said that you're on here a little bit too much. Of course. Have you heard from him?

Yeah. I'll talk to him a couple days ago. He was supposed to hit up Colby. Did he hit him up? Yeah, he did. Yeah. Okay, good. I hope it's going to work out.

Does it sound like it's going to be... I don't know. I didn't really ask. Are you going to go back on a show? Or not back? Are you going to go on a show? Has he called you at all? No.

I'm sure the... I heard you when they got me that day. How was it that one day when we called you live from his studio when I had him call you. How, what do you mean? Like, you made a whole video about it, right? Like, you weren't expecting us to call you. Yeah, I went on his radio show.

I called you yesterday. Yeah, I saw the screenshot popped up on my YouTube page, but I haven't watched it yet. Yeah, I mean, it's just me sitting there. Basically, I explain Bubba's situation for people that don't know who he was and who he is and the Hulk go. And then I say, you know, I went on the show. There was an issue. I got a call. And then I said, and then Danny went on a show.

And then I said, and they just called me. And then I said, I'm going, and then I play the video. And then I play the video where I'm sitting there going, okay, and we're going back and forth. It was like 38 minutes. Yeah, it was a long time. Yeah. I mean, me, eight minutes was me explaining who he is because my guy's the hell. I can't believe you fucking outed that, that doctor.

What was I supposed to say? What did you say about him? But what are the thing about what was I supposed to say? I gave him. I didn't do it. I mean, you're right. He must have not known that you were going to say that. He had no clue.

So he never told him in the first place. No. No. The guy said, I don't want him on the show again. Right. And he'd tell him why. And he said, and Bubba just went, yes, sir. Yes, sir.

And said, I'll never have him on again. Great. Okay. You think it's really like that? I don't think he's really like straight up bitch boy like that? Or do you think, do you think he's really, they got him by the balls like that? Listen, prior to. So here's what I didn't say.

I don't think they have him by the balls. Prior to, that, that, that, that, that, second episode. I had done the first episode. Bubba asked me to, you know, we went out back, we talked for a while. Then he called me several times. And he asked me, look, would you consider coming on

the podcast? Would you consider helping me with YouTube? And then we'll cut up the videos and I'll give you half of the revenue from all the YouTube that comes in. And I'll bring you on the show. You'll be a regular. It'll come on Tuesdays and Thursdays and I'll give you this much money.

And I'll like, he was pushing hard. I was like, I don't know. Let me think about it. I'm not sure. Because I got Jess the whole time saying, I don't trust this guy. I'm telling you, she's like, he's sleazy. There's something wrong with him. He's burnt every bridge he's ever fucking had if you look into him. So I'm like, I know, I know, but what's the big deal? He's going to pay me. You know, it'll help me. I can start a channel because I didn't really have a channel then. I can start a channel. It'll help me kind of garner subscribers. And so I had this whole conversation. And then I was like, I don't know, just you know let me think about it let me see

I went on the show the next day that whole thing happened right um and then as I can't you know I got but as soon as I got home I got the text from Bubba boom hey sorry bro it doesn't look like it's gonna work out

really and he was like yeah not gonna work out and I go I have a feeling it has something to do with the Diaco's he says yeah bro it does have something to do with Diacos I don't want to get into it good luck like that's it like this is a guy who's blowing up my text yeah for a week gone.

Diaco said, boom. He said, yes, sir, and didn't even ask why. Like, let's say there were somebody who said,

let's say I was like, hey, Danny, I'm going to have, can I say Ben Mala? Yeah. Okay. I don't know.

You know, I'm going to have big, he'll beep it out if you can't. I'm going to have so-and-so on my program, right? And you said, and I said,

yeah, Danny, I'm going to have him on my, yeah, he's going to come, it's cool. We're going to do like a two-hour thing, and then Danny were,

and then Danny were to say, yeah, bro, I really don't want you to do that. If I were to say, okay, yeah, that's cool. But you know what I wouldn't do? I wouldn't say, okay, Danny, you're right. You said so. That's good. And never ask why. Unless I basically worked for you.

Like if you just said, I said no and it's no. Okay, man, yeah, bro. Cool, cool. That's a relationship we would have to have for me to not say why. I'll think about it, Danny. We'll talk about it, but why? You need to have a good reason. Now, if you had a good reason, okay.

But Bubba never asked? No. He never asked. He just said, yes, sir. Yes, sir. Like, to me, I don't know about you, but that says something about our relationship. Yeah. You know, that one person's 100% in control.

That's weird. You don't even get to question it. That's so weird. I just find it hard. I just don't see it. I mean, I understand what you're saying makes total sense, but I just don't see that dynamic between them. I don't see him answering to somebody like that. as far as content.

Like, why would they, why would they fucking choke him out and stifle any, any sort of possibility for success by having you on there just because of some, some personal fucking petty shit like that? Absolutely petty.

Like, you know, and this is the thing, too. Like I said, if I had been given instructions like, hey, bro, we're going to do this, we're going to do that. But it was never like that. It was like, okay,

you're sitting down here, you know, we're going to, you know, okay, you ever seen the show? Not really. Not recently, not in 25 years. So Diaco is like the Peter Thiel of Tampa.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Woo! It was a nice segue. Did you watch that documentary? Oh, yeah. I wish I would have seen that documentary. Oh, have you?

I didn't realize I had watched it before. I had watched it, I want to say, a couple years ago? Because all of that was very familiar to me. How old is the documentary? 2017. Okay, so I have watched. Because when I was watching it, I was like, I was like, oh, wait, didn't this person buy this paper?

Oh, wait, wasn't he? So I knew I'd seen, as I was watching, I was like, I know I've seen this before for some reason. But yeah, and I knew the whole thing as I was watching is I definitely saw it before. I just didn't know how long ago. What was your take on the whole documentary? I mean, I know your... It was called, by the way, it's called Nobody Speak. Right.

I wish I would have seen that before I'd talk to Bubba. Well, I know your take. is, you know, that there's these billionaires behind the scene that are helping, that are basically stifling free press, right? Yeah. So that's part. But you mean, or do you mean

just the Hulk Hogan thing? No, no, no. I'm talking about the whole overarching theme of it, not just the whole Kogan. The whole Kogan thing is great, a great part of it because it kind of sets up, sets it up and it kind of is like a great kind of like click-bady thing for the documentary. Like it makes sense to draw more attention to it. Right. And it's kind of like the catalyst, which sets

it off. But, like, the overarching theme of these crazy overlord billionaires who are trying to control the free press. He's sick, doesn't he? He's got great. It's like, what was the Boziac? What was the dark something of credit card?

Miami's dark something of credit card. Yeah, I mean, some of them are just like, anyway. Yeah, I mean, what do I think? You know, it's funny because to me that's something that, like, you have special interest groups, right? Like lobbyists and stuff. that do that all the time for for laws and and it's not illegal like what they did wasn't illegal

but they also bought that one guy who bought the newspaper it was a small local town newspaper it wasn't massive he didn't change he didn't no that was the i think that was the biggest newspaper in las vegas it's Las Vegas though it's not like it's pretty yeah i guess it's not like it's massive and and even so you didn't buy them all that guy's name was uh Sheldon Adelson right the richest man in Vegas. He was the richest casino owner in Vegas. He just died last year. Then they're back to printing whatever they want. But he was trying to hide the fact that he bought that newspaper, right?

Yeah, yeah. He did not want anybody to know that. Yeah, he did a horrible job. Like, I'm going to have my son-in-law is going to, your son and, like, obviously we know that you're involved. You did it. You have all the money. Yeah, your son-in-law runs some, whatever he ran for him, I'm sure. The Peter Thiel Gawker thing is Peter Thiel. didn't hide from that at all. He was like, yeah. Oh, he came out like the next day. Yeah. That's right. Let him know. I like that. What did he do? Yeah. That's kind of, that's kind of gangster. I like the way Peter Teal did it. Because fuck Gawker. I mean, Gawker was kind of just like, they were, they were just like grenade throwers. You know what I mean? They weren't really like doing any meaningful journalism. They

were just doing like tabloid grenade throwing. They had, they had come out with some stuff before everybody else came because they were required less, it was, they were less, you know, there was less scrutiny in their underwrite or in the underwriting in their in their in their journalism like they didn't require all these different people to verify the story so they heard about something they said sounds credible run with it as opposed to someone like the new york times is like lay we need two different sources we need someone within inside the the administration like they're not running with just anything gawker was running and on a few occasions it was a big story right oh my god we blew it first yeah because you have no standards right you know so yeah they didn't

knocking out Galker wasn't a big deal. And Galker, look, as far as, as far as you're, you know, you having a right to privacy, like you do have a right to privacy. Like, you're in someone's house and they're videoing you. And then they sell the video. Like, I'm not in public, bro. Like, you need my permission to video me and sell it. Like, you can't just do that.

Like, I get it if we're in public and you're videoing me. Like, we're in public. Everybody can see this. We're in public. You can video me and sell it. That's news. But yeah, this dude's in his house and, you know, banging his wife like there's a whole other fucking weird.

And he clearly didn't even know he was being filmed. Yeah, yeah. It's a whole weird issue. And the crazy part is he paid, Bubba only had to pay him five grand. Yeah, yeah. How weird is that? The whole thing, the whole.

You know what I really liked about it? Odd. You know, the thing about the documentary is they like, they were really kind of dumb. Some parts of it were pretty dumb to. me. Like the people they were interviewing were talking about how the lawsuit was structured

with Hulk's legal team versus Gawker. And the people that were interviewing the people that worked at Gawker and they were like, we knew something was really, really fishy and not right when they removed one of the charges for psychological distress.

Right. Or mental distress. They removed it because Gawker's insurance policy for lawsuits, would no longer cover them if that was not part of the lawsuit. So they're like, so this was really weird.

Like that's not normal. That's, of course that's normal in a lawsuit. Well, because now you're, you don't want the person you're suing to have money. That's,

because the point, all lawsuits, especially those kind of civil suits, the point of those lawsuits is to fucking run them out of money. Right. Because you're not going to win. It's a fucking,

it's a, well, I think what they were saying was, the way I understood it was, if they did win, the insurance, company would pay the verdict. If they removed the insurance company, then Galker's owners were reliable. They could bankrupt the company and they could go after the owners. You see what

saying? That's not what I got from it. What I got from it was that they had an insurance, they had a corporate insurance policy that covered the expense of lawsuits like that. So it would pay for the lawyers and the, and the, if they won, and the, um, suit if they are the, uh, the verdict. I don't know about the vert. I don't know how that, I don't know. Even if it, even if, even if if they did win, I think even if Gawker did win, I don't think they would have gotten any sort of money from that. I think they just would have won. It would have been a wash. Because they weren't, they weren't counter suing, right? They were just defending themselves. Yeah, I think they were just defending them. So they just, their insurance policy was just going to cover their legal fees for their lawyers.

Yeah, yeah. And if they, if they removed that part of the lawsuit, then now their insurance company has an out. They don't have to, they don't have to cover their expenses anymore. See, I was thinking that if they lost, our insurance company would pay whatever the, you know, whatever the damages were. Like, if it was $100 million, then now the insurance company has to pay. And I'm sure there's a cap like of $20 million. It would have. Right. It would have. So to say, hey, I want to have them removed so that they cannot contribute because we want to make sure we hurt Gawker. Right. Like, that's the way I took it. You see what I'm saying? Like, it was personal. It was personal. I don't want your insurance to bail you out. I want to make sure I bankrupt you. Right. But still, you have a way better

chance of winning. So if you don't remove that piece of the lawsuit and they have insurance now covering their expenses, you're going to go for a bigger pot, a bigger pot of money, but you have a smaller chance of winning because they have

unlimited funds now. For their lawyers to fight you. For their lawyers to fight you. If you remove that little piece of it now they have... Isn't the guy that owns Gawker, wasn't he worth millions anyway? How much is he going to pay out of his pocket versus out of an insurance policy? I don't know. You know, you're right. The insurance policy is probably going to pay a lot more.

Yeah, because especially if they're liable for if they lose, like, we're going to dump a bunch of money because if we lose, we're going to get hit for $100 million. Right, exactly. So now they changes their whole way of thinking. They're fucking on their heels now if they're paying it out of their own pocket. So you're going to win a smaller amount of money, but you're going to have a way greater chance of winning that lawsuit because you're going to fucking run them out of money. Yeah, they have, they have less ability to mount a defense. But either way, he ended up winning and got $100. $115 million if he got $115 million. He didn't.

Bubba even said he's like, when it all shook out, and after they paid the fees, paid the lawyers, blah, blah, blah, blah. Probably got like 20 or 30. I mean, 20 or 30, yeah. That's not bad. Right? No, that ain't bad. Yeah, I, I.

And then he turned around and he sued Cox Media. That was the bigger one. Yeah, yeah. Then he sued, like, he sued like multiple. He got like 70 at a Coxville. And he sued somebody else and got like 40. He got another 110. Who else?

I forget the second one that he sued Cox Media and then another company like I don't know who these said like Warner or ABC or CBS or something someone else he sued them to. Bam, they paid him too. So he's got like that's probably one of the best things that ever happened to him. That was a big payday. Yeah. That was a big chunk of, yeah. What a life, man. What a roller coaster of a life.

He went straight from his divorce where he was like ready to kill himself and blow his brains out to that. Yeah. And the FBI sting that was at the San Pearl, how they had the FBI sting get set up. Yeah. Yeah, that's a nut. This dude lives, some of these guys who live these lives that you're just like, like, you know, the average guy, you know, he goes to high school,

maybe he goes to college, maybe just gets some kind of a technical degree, or maybe he just gets into some kind of a field and he kind of stays in that field and he does okay, or does really well, whatever. You know, he goes on, he meets a girl, and they get married, and they have a two kids and he teaches soccer and he just, he has just like a regular life and they go on vacation.

Like that guy listening to someone like Hulk Hogan's life or Bubba's life or it's like, bizarre. They're like, what? You did what?

Like that 99% of people kind of follow that. I graduated high school. I got a job. I married the girl that I'm in love with. I had kids. You know, so they hear someone like, Like, or even like, even that guy just told you, the guy we were talking about earlier that I wanted, I said, you should have on the program.

The guy, Johnny Walker. Oh. Like, you listen to this guy's life and you're like, this is bizarre. Like, everything about this guy's life is insane. I mean, you've done things that I would have never done. And I'll do some crazy shit. Like, I mean, like, it's just like, wow. It's like, how did you think that that was acceptable or was going to work?

And then it did work. Same thing with like Hulk Hogan. Like, you're going to. I'm going to be a wrestler. Like, how did you come up with that? And how did you think you could make money at that? And how did you think? Or even Bubba.

Well, I kind of like this. And I talked about this. And then I got on the radio. But he had a radio show and I got on the radio show. And it's like, how did that work out? Like, some of these guys' lives are just fucking insane. Yeah. Bubba was living large at one point.

Oh, at one point. Yeah. Did you listen to him back then? Oh, of course. That was in your hey day too, right? Here's what's funny. I never mentioned this. and I was thinking about it the other day

I was driving down Fowler one time this was when I was maybe 20, 21 years old and there was this, there was like a I don't know, it was like a huge SUV and there was a hot, hot chick who was walking out of like a 7-Eleven or something with some food or something

and there was this big fat guy pumping gas into this huge SUV and I think it was like when the escalades it first come out or something, something when they were really, big and one of my buddies was like bro that's Bubba the love Spawned that's Bobbba I was like no they look at the chick you know

that's him he's fucking he like made a ton of money they're like look at that chick look at him I was like that is bubble love so it had to be him like he was dating these women that were phenomenal looking and he was porn stars yeah he was overweight he's driving this amazing car and it was like

and then of course I did listen to him he was always you know it's the whole shock jockey I didn't realize it but on the documentary they said he burned the Koran He threatened to burn it. Oh, he threatened to burn the friend. They had asked him not to do it. Yeah, he ran for sheriff.

The CIA? Yeah, the CIA had to go through somebody to get to Bubba in order to say, this is a national security issue. We're asking not to do it. That's how big of a fucking deal he was. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and then one time, I guess they killed a pig or something. They put him on trial. That was a big one.

Yeah. What was the other one that he did? Oh, he ran for sheriff. You one time he ran for sheriff for like Polk or something like that? Probably. I forget which county, but yeah, he... Probably Polk. Yeah, I want to say he had...

Did he legally get his name changed? Yeah, he did. Yeah, so that it would say Bubba the Love Spong or something like that. He got it illegally changed, right? It's legally Bubba the Love Spunge. Yeah, because when the... Right, because when the... I think it's because when it was on the ballot, he wanted it to say,

Bubba the Love Spunge. Like, nobody's going to know who, you know, his real name... Todd Clem. Yeah, nobody's going to know that. Close your eyes when you do it. This is insane. What's wrong with you guys? Just close your eyes.

Look, look. What's wrong with you guys? Sometimes you need a little something extra. It is get you going, Matt. I need a jar that in the car sometimes. Drive in long distance. Yeah, that documentary was good. But it was, like, weird, though,

towards the end, they kept talking about, like, you know, the media doesn't lie for the press is the, you know, why would you say such terrible things about CNN? Like CNN is truthful. They held them, they held the media out like they were just above reproach and they didn't have an agenda. Right. It was just like, come on, man, stop. Stop.

Yeah, that part of it kind of lost me. Yeah, and then they played the music. There was music in the background when they were given their little speech about how, how clean and righteous they were. It was just like, oh, how righteous the media is. Stop it, bro. You had me up until this.

They were shown Brian Stelter. Brian Stelters, the poster child for truth and media. It was bad. It was ridiculous. And it's so funny, too, because they were really hammering. Trump was president then, so obviously they were hammering. Hammering away at him. Hammering.

Oh, they were shitting on Trump. Yeah. Like, he's just, he's out of touch. For supporting Trump, Peter Thiel is a fucking right-wing bigot, even though he's gay. He's a weird dude, though. Have you seen the way he walks? He's a very weird gait. Is that the word for when you walk?

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. The problem is with all of those guys, Boziac and I were talking about it, like, you ever know, like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, like, Teal, like. Musk? Musk. They're all little off. Yeah. It's like they're on the spectrum of autism.

You know, there's somewhere on that spectrum, you know, there's, like, you saw how he talked. Teal, he was, he was very, very odd. He might be the weirdest out of all of them. Yeah, no, absolutely. But I wasn't really aware of that because he's not so much in the, in the spotlight as the other guys are. Well, I didn't realize it until I saw that video. When he started talking and trying to explain something, I was like, oh, wow. Yeah, there's something there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's something missing. So, and he does not, he apparently holds grudges. Like, I mean, he was fucking... Well, imagine if you were him, though. Imagine if you were him, you were a billionaire. You had all... You had done all this. And then some fucking fly-by-night gawker website says...

Matt Cox, is Peter Thiel. Matt Cox is gay or something. Matt Cox is totally gay. That was the headline. Yeah, yeah. Is he gay, though? Yeah, he is. Right.

Okay, so... And you hadn't told anyone. Like, it was a secret thing. Only his family and his close, close friends knew. Right. And then they just, they did that. That would kind of like... It does. It feels like it's an invasion of, it feels like it's an invasion of my privacy.

Yeah. Definitely. That's a big thing to out for the first time to like to put you on public spotlight for that. Yeah, I agree. I can understand how he held a grudge. I can, but I can't imagine spending the tens or 20 or 30 million dollars that he spent backing all of these guys. Yeah, I guess it's nothing. It's pocket changed. $4 billion is like $200,000 is like $20.

Yeah. You say that, but rich people don't like to lose money. Like, they didn't get rich because you're okay with losing money. Like, you know, nobody wants to lose. Nobody wants to lose. They're all different. Yeah. Some of them, like, someone have more risk conversion than others.

Yeah. Or more, what is it, immune to risk? No, risk aversion. Okay. It works. It was definitely a good, definitely a good documentary. I think, I don't really know much about him, but I want to learn more about him

because he seems like a fucking creepy dude. I just did a podcast with a guy named Barrett Brown who is a former member of Anonymous. Oh, you know, Anonymous, the guys who, they put the mask on their face

and they talk about shit. Yeah, on the internet, they call it politicians and stuff. He, he wrote a whole thing about Peter Thiel, and he's, like, studied a lot about Peter Thiel.

And he talked about, like, how his company Palantier, is like this face, this facial recognition company. They have AI software that tracks you by face, by your face, by your retinas and stuff like that. And their biggest contract was with in QTEL, the CIA's investment arm. Right. So it said that in the documentary.

Right. And this guy, Barrett Brown, did this like whole crazy deep dive on him and how he, there's this thing called Dark Enlightenment that he wrote. about. Okay. I don't know. Very, very, like, dark,

dark shit. He says that he's basically... Would you get this guy? This guy was recommended to me on Twitter. And he's actually... He can't come to the U.S. right now. He went to prison for four years. He went to prison for four years for...

What the fuck did he do? He got fucked by the FBI. The FBI fucked him for four years because he wrote for... I think he wrote... He was a journalist for... Imagine what Teal's going to do to you. What is Glenn Greenwald's publication called? Anyways, he wrote for that magazine or that website.

And he wrote some shit and got in trouble because he leaked, oh, he leaked information on an anonymous thread, an anonymous form about some of the information for the employees of a company called H.B. Gary, which is another intelligence contractor. Okay. So, like, you know, like the military industrial complex, they will contract private military companies to send them overseas. This is a company that gets contracted by the government for intelligence similar to Palantir. And it was called H.B. Gary. And they were like somehow contracted to spy on Americans for something. And they were trying to out those people. And because he outed some people who worked for H.B. Gary, the FBI sent him to prison.

He got fucked for four years. He originally got sentenced to 105 years. But he somehow got out after four years. In Texas. I don't know. That's a big. So what, they hit him with some kind of espionage? Something like that.

Can you pull up, can you pull up Barrett Brown's? Like, well, I'm wondering what's the charge? Yeah, what's the charges? We're going to find out right now. We've got to, Barrett Brown. There's got to be espionage or something. Well, espionage is like when a spy steal stuff, right? So it's got to be some.

Yeah, something to do with, like, national security or something. Oh, okay, okay. So the FBI raided his mom's house, and then they charged his mom because his mom hid one of his laptops. They charged his mom with obstruction or something. Yep, yep. And then he went on his YouTube channel, and he said something about, I know this FBI agent

who's spying on me right now and tapping my phone lines. If he ever comes around me again, him and his whole family will, you know what. What are you doing? Yeah, that's what we're doing on. How you threaten the life of an FBI. Exactly. So he got threatened a federal officer, obstruction of justice. That's what they originally nailed it with.

That was bright. 900,000 to Stratford in restitution. What is Stratford? Stratford's another one of those intelligence agencies. So instead of using the NSA, they just outsource it to some other company, like a private N.S. Like Palantor or HB. Gary. That what, can get around not spying on Americans? Right.

Like, well, they can't. We can't do it, but you can do it. Right. Exactly. It's like, I just know what you find. It's like, what was it the,

like the, like the, they'll hire like Blackwater to go and kidnap some guy in another country and then show up on American soil and then call the DEA, hey,

we're at the airport, we have so and so. You've been looking for him. Really? They come and they grab the guy and give him a check for $250,000 and take them away. So this guy was saying that

he fucking hates Elon Musk. He goes, everyone thinks Elon Musk is this big shining star that's going to save the world if he buys Twitter. Let me tell you, There is no way Elon Musk is not sitting in Peter Thiel's lap, and Peter Thiel is fucking side by side with him when he's trying to buy Twitter. And Peter Thiel's the guy who owns Palantir, and he's trying to control the fucking world with all this dark conspiracy shit, basically saying if Elon does buy Twitter, it's basically Peter Thiel owns Twitter, and we're fucked.

So what, was this a, this was like a Zoom? Zoom. Yeah, yeah. He's in England right now. And he actually, I think he got arrested again in England for saying he had this. the sign. His mom again? No, pull up,

uh, Barrett Brown arrest in England. He was in the middle of a riot or one of those like BLM type riots and he was holding a giant wooden sign that spray painted said kill cops. This guy can't learn. Listen, no offense.

Dude, he's just got, he's got some sort of like complex where he just wants to fucking stir shit up. He wants to throw grenades. I love these guys who were like, yeah, I think there should be no government and the government should. Really?

So the other countries that have governments and armies are just going to roll in here. Nobody's going to stop them. Well, we've got our guns. Stop, stop. Bro, come on. You need some government here. What are you doing? Yeah.

Oh, that's what you have. Yeah. Yeah, it's a bad idea. It's a bad idea. Yeah, that's not a great idea. Not a good one. No. Especially after just doing time.

Go to the picture of him wearing the tie. You would think especially after just doing. time, just doing time in the Fed. Yeah. Like, did he do the four years in the Fed? Yeah, he did. He's an interesting fella. Looks like he's 16.

He does. In that picture, that was like right when he got out, I think. Or right before he went in, maybe. But if he came back on U.S. soil, he'd get fucked. So that's why he's not here. Oh, listen, if they don't want to get you, they're going to get you. They're going to find something. Everybody's doing something.

Yeah, they're not going to get him when he's in England. No. Well, I don't know. know, England's basically like South Carolina, right? I mean, it's basically, they grab them and say, send him over here. They'll probably send him over here. Well, they still haven't even extradited Julian Assange, have they? Well, yeah, but he's in Russia.

That's, I don't know it. Julian Assange is in, I think he's in the UK. Oh, is he? Yeah. Is he? Yeah, Julian Assange is in an embassy. He's in the UK embassy, I think. I mean, they're trying to, they're trying to extradite him here.

So he's in the United Kingdom Embassy in the United Kingdom? You might need to verify that, Jordan. I thought they got him, no? Julian Assange. It's the latest on Julian Assange. I thought he, I think he, I think they locked him up. I can't say it. Assange.

Assange. This guy also worked closely with Julian Assange, the guy Barrett. He worked really closely with Julian Assange. And you're going to get, listen. I'm just saying. Peter's watching. Peter's watching. Yeah.

I mean, I'm all for free press, but, you know, you've got a kid. You need to start passing some of this stuff by your wife. Julian Assange. I think he's locked up. Well, yeah, he's in an embassy. Locked up in an embassy, I think. Where is Julian Assange right now? Says he's confined in Belmarsia category A prison.

In London. And he's probably fighting extradition. Well, that's 2019. Where is Julian Assange now? There he is. What's a Class A prison, man? Like a decent prison? I don't know.

It's Class A prison. I don't know what a class. Like what, that would, to me. Type in, where is Julian Assange in 2022? It's the Hilton. I was going to say, it sounds like it would be a nice prison. There it is. Now, there you go.

Like a four-star prison. Sanj has been confined. Since 2019. Okay. So he's still hanging out there. Well, that's in the UK, though. That was halfway, right? And they're trying to extrad.

Oh yeah, they're trying hard. And he's fighting. You know, so one of the problems with extraditing, and I've known a couple of guys that have been extradited from the UK, is that, so is that it, one, if you,

you have to basically go to them and say, look, here's, here's the evidence we have. Like, we've indicted this person. He's a U.S. citizen.

Or, Or he's, let's say that you have dual citizenship. Or you're one of your citizens in some cases. So he broke the law in the United States. We want to extradite him. Here's the evidence. And we'd like him to come over here and have to face prosecution. The problem is, is a lot of times they'll say,

okay, well, that makes sense. Like your evidence looks pretty strong. We get it. You did indict him. Sounds like he may have done this. We'll send him over there. The problem is, is most of the times when it's, goes awry is when the U.S. comes and says something like, we want to extradite him.

And, you know, if he's found guilty, you know, we're going to execute him. They're like, yeah, we're not sending one of our citizens to your country to be executed. So then it's like, okay, well, then we'll take that off the table. Okay, yeah, but if he's found guilty, then he has to get what? Life? Yeah. Yes. So life based on the evidence that you guys have, we wouldn't give him life for that. So we're also not going to send him there. damn it okay so so you have to start negotiating with them because they're like our laws are so strict and i i knew one guy that was supposed that he'd actually come over here he listen i he ran a scam like he was trying to tell us it wasn't a scam stop it it's a scam like i love how you do that

stop it yeah it's it's you know no you don't understand we did you okay the moment you start billing people more than they're supposed to be billed for years and you make you guys made an extra a half a million dollars or a million dollars. Right. Yeah, but, you know, they saw what the bill... Stop, stop, stop. Don't try that shit. Like, you weren't supposed to be building them the extra $12.

You billed them for three, for five years. 100,000 people, you guys made X amount of dollars. It was a scam. So, but once it all collapsed, this guy took off. He went to England because he had dual citizenship. So it goes to England, a couple years later, he brings, like, one of his kids into the embassy to get, like, you have to give them like you have to sign something

embassy so that they could also be an American an American and he went in and when he went in they said hey by the way you have a warrant against you from the United States he was like what he said he kind of knew it might have happened but nobody had ever said anything and it had been years

so they eventually they grab him they let him right back out and when they let him back out like he was in custody because he he had to call in one a week. Like their custody and our custody is way different. So he was like I was confined to my house and work and grocery shopping and going, you know, bringing my kids to school.

And of course. Yeah, and yeah, exactly. It was ridiculous. I was like, you're free. He's like, I know, but they call it big keys. But once a week I had to call. I'm like, but you weren't allowed to leave like, like, like England. He's like, well, you could if you called. I was like, what? He's like, well, yeah, you know, it's the, whatever it's the, you know, they all signed a treaty, right? Whatever the surrounding. European Union is like, you know, it's basically their states, right? So anyway, the point is, is that when they got in front of the judge and they started arguing, they were like, okay, well, these are fraud charges and we agree you've got some evidence.

And they were like, yeah, and this is very serious. He could get 30 years for this. And they were going on and on. And immediately his lawyer stepped in and went, Your Honor, this is fraud charges for a million dollars. They want to give him 30 years. And the judge was like, yeah, we're not sending them back there. What are you doing? You're going to give him 30 years.

Send him to China. Like it backfired on him right away. Like the U.S. was like, yeah, this is serious. And they thought that meant, they go, oh, this is serious. You've got to go. Instead, they went, oh, no, no, we're not sending one of our citizens to get 30 years for something that over here. If he was found guilty, he'd get 18 months, you know, nine of which he'd be able to do in his living room on an ankle monitor. Like, no way.

So they had to negotiate. and they negotiated like 24 months and then he flew over there he flew over to the U.S., went in for 24 months to the low, met me, that's where I heard the story. Oh, wow. So, I mean, it's not always, you know,

you have to have a, you know, and it has to be a comparable charge. Like, if they don't have a comparable charge over there, they're like, he did what? He did this and this and this and they're like, that's not illegal over here. Yeah. Like, you know, a lot of countries don't have

conspiracy charges. She're like, no, you don't understand. He did this and this and this and it's conspiracy. Yeah, but he's not illegal. He didn't rob the bank. Yes, but he was in the room when they talked about robbing the bank, and he helped plan it. But he didn't go in the bank.

He didn't drive the getaway car. He didn't give him the weapons. He was just in the room talking and saying, oh, yeah, you got to watch out for this. Right. Yeah, it's a conspiracy. Yeah, we don't, that's not a thing here. Like, you can be in the room.

You can even help out a little bit. A little bit. Just not too much. This is not a, he didn't pay anything. He didn't make any money just because he was there. Like, to us, you might as well walked in. What would happen to him if he was in China? Well, in China, they'd just take them all out back and shoot him in the head.

Execute them. Yeah. Well, did you see Boziac and I did a video where these two bank employees had, this is in the bank of China. Well, not the bank of China. It was a bank in China. They basically were the vault managers, and they took cash on hand, and they took some cash. One of them took some cash. went and gambled on the lottery.

The problem was he won. He took like $200,000 and he won like $350,000. I'm sure I have the numbers off. But it wasn't that much. But because he won, he was like, how much did he win? He took like $200,000 and he won like $350,000. So he made like $150,000. And he was able to put the money back.

So then he thought, I'm going to do this again. But this time he went and talked to the other vault manager and said, look, I say we take, like I already blew that money. You went through that in the year. So let's take, let's take two or three million dollars. With your help, nobody's going to notice the money's gone because you're the other person that kind of counts the money. And they were like, okay, so then they also involve these two guards because we're going to come in here one night. We're going to remove the money.

We're going to buy lottery tickets and we're going to scrape them off. And they literally talked about how they scraped them off until their fingers were bleeding. And they... Who is this? These two guys, like I can't say their names, like, ching-tong-tong. and you know, I don't know. So, but the fact is, is that the second time they did not win. Ooh.

I mean, and I mean, like, badly. Like, they took out, like, a couple million, and they had won back, like, 40,000. And so, what do they do? Like, you know, they, instead of saying, you know what, let's get out of China, this was going back. No, no. Do it again. It was just off. We need to try this again.

I got more money. I got the wrong tickets. They get more money. Now there's so much money missing. Like, the bank employees are like, listen, there was a big stack of cash here a week ago. And there's a lot less. Now, they were spinning them.

Say, well, sometimes it happens. They come. You know, we were here when they took this. And the bank, other banks did that. Like, they were trying to do it, but people are getting wise. And so eventually the, the employees start complaining. And then they call the authorities. The authorities come in.

Both these guys take off. They get caught right away. They're tried, convicted, and both of them are taken out back and shot in the head for fraud. This is fraud That's stealing That's a little different than fraud Right Well I'm okay

It's what You robbed a bank Essentially In a very nice way Like you walk It's not like they held him up Like they walked out with It wasn't a briefcase

It was like Like it was like You shot them in the head It was like grand theft Right And not just that Like this is like Paper money

In China Like you guys can just run Some more paper money And fix it Right Like I mean This is not that big of a deal

Like, you don't, they shot them. Both them. The other two guys got like three years. The other two, remember the two guards got like three years or something? Like literally for just looking the other way. They got like three or four years in like an internment camp where they're, they go through reeducation or something. It's like, I didn't do anything. Like, they just walked out.

That's bad. That's how it needs to be. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. So, listen, you know it's really, you know what's really. I think Shane agrees. You know what's really fucked up? I don't know if that's how it should be, but I mean, I bet you a lot less people would be doing fucked up shit when you're like, hey, fucking Timmy over there got shot cocked in the head.

All he did was walk out with a couple mill real nicely. Yeah, they can't. Zach, that's rough. Yeah, that is rough. Like, nobody, they didn't even hurt anybody's feelings. Like, they didn't come in with hard with guns and zip tie everybody and scare them to death. Like, they walked out with them in briefcases. Right, white collar criminal.

Yeah. Non-violent. That's kind of blue collar. But look, here's where it really, you know where why they should have been shot in the head? They put the money in the lottery tickets. Yeah, that was dumb. The stupidity alone.

Right. That tells you the mentality, these two idiots. They deserve it for sure. The problem, could have put it on roulette or something. The big problem was the guy won the first time. Yeah. Like, if he lost the first time,

yeah, he wouldn't do that shit again. Now he's trying to scramble 200 grand. You know what's funny? This is how China is. They said that when the guy, one guy took off on the run, he won, he took like a cab ride, something like 50 miles or 100 miles or something,

way outside of his district. Then he bought some kind of a decent vehicle with cash. Then he went to a nice hotel and rented the hotel or something with cash. The person who rented him in the hotel room told the police, this guy came in, he's got a ton of cash, I think something's wrong. The guy who sold him the car said,

this guy bought a car from me, all cash, very suspicious. The cab driver said, I just dropped this guy off here at this place. Very weird. Paid me in cash over 50 or 100 miles into my cab. Very strange. Like, everybody called the authorities. Like, everybody told on you. That was like.

Yeah, they ain't smart, man. They're all snitching. The whole country's terrified. Yeah. I wouldn't have gotten anywhere. That's the kind of country that we need to be. Oh, my God. I mean, what are the crime levels over there?

There's no crime. There's almost no crime. Well, then the process works, no? It does. Yeah, if there is a crime, it only happens once. And how many people are in China? Law-abiding citizens. Maybe you can find that, Jordan.

Is it like $3 billion or $2 billion or something like that? Look, if you have to fucking, if you have to blow a couple fraudsters' brains out, this is not showing how I want it at all. To prove a point. 1.4 billion. One point, what I say? Three?

And one point. 1.302 are law-abiding citizens. How many lives are you saving? Look at all the violence and murders and deaths we have in America every day. How many, I mean, there's got to be... There's got to be... People shooting up schools, little children, and... I mean, a few years in the can.

Listen. Maybe if we were a little bit stricter and had a little bit... A little bit more... A little bit more... We enforce a little bit more discipline on our citizens. Oh, my God! We wouldn't have all these fucked up problems in our country. Well, they want to lock them up for the money.

We've got to bring the chair back. You do understand that we have 1% of our entire population is incarcerated. 1%. You understand what I'm saying. Don't lock them up. Kill them. I mean, I'm sure like people with DUIs, kill them. Not DUI.

Maybe. People that get into fist fights. Kill them. People that. Stealing golf carts? By the way, you. By the way, drugs? You know, drugs.

Oh, yeah, they don't play with drugs. No, drugs should be legalized. No. Drug should be legalized. No, kill them. No, we need to legalize all guns. Just like... Listen, don't worry.

50 years. I mean, not guns. We need to legalize guns, and we need to legalize all drugs. But if you go and shoot somebody and kill somebody... These guys didn't kill anybody. They took some money. Or if you rob a bank, you're done. Or if you commit credit card fraud or mortgage fraud.

You're dead. Off with your head. I disagree. What's the next topic on the agenda? How would the country... Don't you think China's winning, though, as a country? Yes. They're definitely winning.

Well, I... Look, they have rules for people who use social media. If you're under 18, you can't scroll on TikTok and Instagram past 10 o'clock. After that, it's all educational content. They want to educate their populace. I think China has some... some issues, major issues. What's their worst issue?

Well, I think, you know, like right now they keep talking about, like, listen, like, Boziac and I go back and forth on this all the time. They're going to invade Taiwan. They're going to invade. I'm like, no, they're not. Yes, they are. Yes, they're, no, their economy is starting to implode. They're having major problems.

You don't start a war in the middle of when you're... You really think there'll be a war? Well, yeah, because I think... It would be more like Russia taking over Ukraine. I do think that the United States would probably... I mean, Biden has repeatedly said that he would, he would back up, you know, Taiwan. Like, I think it's very, listen, he, look, he's, he's a decrepit old man, he's falling apart. But he is sending, he is sending over tons of weapons and money to, to the Ukrainians, you know.

Billions and billions and billions. Right. Like, he, and he probably would back up, like, you can't let China invade Taiwan. Plus, the Taiwanese, they know they've been coming forever. Like, this, even, or will it, would China be able to take it? Probably. But honestly, it's going to be what hell of a bloodbath. Like, this whole, this whole little tiny country is set up for an invasion.

Like, it's, it's, it's vicious. Like, I mean, they've got everything is mined. They've got tons of anti-aircraft, you know, weapons. They've got, like, they've been being trained by the United States this entire time. Like, they're. Who has the Taiwanese? The Taiwanese. Have they really?

Yeah. And they've got two. there's only twice a year when they can really kind of launch an invasion. You know, like, would China ultimately overpower them? Yes, probably. But then again, China has the same kind of problems Russia has. You know, like they don't have really, their standing army, there's a ton of corruption, their standing army, they don't really have like the U.S.

where they have like career military men go in and stay forever. Like most guys are conscripted for two years. They get back out. They're not trained very well. Their pilots aren't super trained. They don't spend a lot of time in the air. You know, they don't, you know, they don't have the ability to move all of their forces, like, you know, they don't have, like, the troop transports. But then again, Taiwan's not that far, you know.

So, but also their whole economy is having a real problem right now. Like, they're about to be in one of the biggest bankruptcies in their... China? Yeah. Why? So, so if, if I understand it right... I don't know anything about economics or money. Well, if, if I understand it right, and I might get a little...

bit off of basically what they did was like something like 90% of their society is creating is are like you know it's rule right it's rule rule it's it's they're like rural rural rural sorry yeah yeah yeah i know you mean yes i said rule i thought you said rule so it's like they're like farmers so a lot of people most people in china like they're born on a farm or in a small town they never really leave that small town and they kind of die in that small town well because china's trying to grow kind of like shane he grew up here and he'll die here. But he gets around more than these guys. I didn't grow up here.

And they have access to the, he has access to the internet. So he's more worldly. Oh yeah. So. All he uses the internet for is sports betting. So what the Chinese did, good stuff.

Like, I want to say like, like in the 2008 financial crisis, like during that time period, like whatever, 15 years ago. That what they started doing was they started supplementing developers to start, start building more and more residential communities near like the cities.

And the government was backing mortgages. So people in these little towns could move to the city so the whole place could become more industrialized, right? So now these people are coming to the city. Well, they start filling up the cities and that's why you have these mega cities, right? But you understand that most of those cities are in between, some of these cities are 40, up to 44% either, 45% vacant. Like they're calling them

ghost cities and ghost towns. Like, you go in these towns and like, there's just all these houses that are just empty. How is that possible with almost 2 billion people? Well, because the people are still, are still, they're still on the farms. It's a big country. They've paid or they've given some money to this massive, massive construction company to build them a house. But one of the things that the

construction company was doing, and then they would get a mortgage that was subsidized by the government. And then they could move there, but there were supposed to be jobs, but there's no jobs. So what's happening is there's all these places getting built and they're never being sold. But the people are putting money down. So unlike in the United States, they were taking a lot of these down payments and using it to build other things. And then at about five or six years ago. Wait, wait, wait, you're going too fast.

The government's taking the down payments? No, no. This is the company. This huge, massive construction company. They were taking the down payments. Yes. Okay. A developer.

Got it. It's a developer. I'm with you. I'm with you. Construction companies underneath him. So what happens is about five or six years ago, I can never say the Chinese leader's name, Qing Chang, whatever. What's his name?

The president of China? No idea. Ling Tao, whatever. Anyway. Zhang Qing. Okay. So he basically a few years ago said, look, we're not going to keep subsidizing this whole thing. Xi, Xi.

Xi Ling, I forget. He basically a few years. ago, like five or ten years, five or six years ago, he said, we're not going to keep backing this up. We're not going to keep giving you money for the mortgages and do all this, because he knew, they knew, this is, these, a lot of these cities are being built that aren't, nobody's there. And there's no jobs. And so these guys aren't coming. So they started taking in foreign investors, investor money, keep building. So this company keeps doing this. And what's ended up happening is, I think it was last quarter, which was a few months ago, that,

for the first time ever, they missed their quarterly interest payment to their oversee investors. Who are their oversee investors? I don't know who, I don't have a list or anything, but that was the first time. And that means that now their second investment, or second ones coming due, they're saying they're going to miss that. They said at that point, most likely there's going to be some kind of a forced bankruptcy. And they said it will be the largest bankruptcy in China history. The other problem is all of these bullet chain trains. that they were building in China, it's the same thing.

Investors and the Chinese government has dumped a ton of money into these things. And although they're amazing, nobody's, you know, first of all, COVID was an issue, but nobody's taking the trains. And now the other issue is the trains aren't going to places that have anybody living there. So you've got a high-ticket train that nobody's paying for. they're 20 or 30% of what they should have been, and the foreign investors and the Chinese investors are pissed off. Like,

they're just now starting to have these major problems. So your whole economy's on the verge of really starting to have a recession. You don't start invading other countries. Like, you've got a problem. If things go bad, you know, look, China only didn't go under in, what, 91 when Russia broke, when the Soviet Union broke apart, they didn't go under because in Tiananmen Square, when they were

holding these these large demonstrations where they were saying, we want to be a democracy, the Chinese actually fired on their own people. Most of the countries that broke away from the Soviet Union, the military wouldn't fire on them. When they were saying,

look, clear out the square, get all these people that are protesting, get rid of them, like the Russian. wouldn't fire on them. Like, they're like, look, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to fight. These are, I understand that they're, they want to be their own country, but I'm not going to fire on these people. They're, they're Russians.

Like, they're not, you know, it'd be like the U.S. military. Or the Ukraine that happened, too. There's a couple of coups in the Ukraine. Right. Like, do you really think, no matter how big the riot is, do you think that the government, that our soldiers would show up knowing what's happening and they'd say, listen, we want you to start mowing down these people that are holding signs. Like, they'd be like, yeah, yeah, bro, I'm not going to do that.

CIA. CIA would. I don't know about, I don't know about all that. But I just know that I think that the basics of the American soldier is going to be like, yeah, I'm sorry, man. Bustamante asked him, he'd have a different opinion. What he wouldn't? Bustamante's not going to mow anybody down. He's a nice guy.

He would kill for his government if they wanted to do. I'm sure it would he kill American citizens. Yes. No, absolutely. I'm calling it. Let's call him. Call him up. Let's call him right now.

We're calling Bustamanti right now. No way. Don't call him. I am calling him. Calling him. He's got kids. But you just said call him. I mean, I'm probably.

I thought about it again. We shouldn't call him. We shouldn't bother him. Yeah. Listen. He's not, he's not. You know what he said?

You know what he was interesting? You know how everyone's really worried about like the nuclear button with Russia? Like Russia sent a nuke's in the U.S. sent a nuke back and forth, nuclear holocaust and all this stuff? Well, the process of firing off a nuke in Russia is completely different than it is in the United States. In the United States, the United States, the press. president has all that power. Like Trump could have made the decision.

Like, okay. Let's do it. He could do it. Yeah. Putin can't do that. Really? No. There's generals.

There's a bunch of generals that each have their own, they each make the call themselves. Like he has to ask the general to do it. And the general, it's his decision. Putin alone can't make that decision. Oh, I didn't know that. So it has to go through a bunch of these like five-star generals. I just figured Putin could say, boom, do it, fire them. No?

Nope. I'm going to send you a link to a video, Jordan, and you can... I was going to say I'm looking that up tomorrow. You can post this. This is great. He went on Julian Dory's podcast. Just like you did. Yeah.

Julian's great. I'm going on again. He does a bunch of really good. So how do I send you this link? It's on Instagram. Link. I'm going to text it to you. Oh, wait.

Can you pull up your texts on... You probably can't pull up on the computer. You'll figure it out. You'll find it. I just texted it to you. But yeah. That's pretty fucking insane. Woo!

It's Juneteenth. I know. Happy Juneteenth. How is your piss? Refreshing. Ready for more liquid death? Ready for another bump of this stuff? No.

Not really. Shit lit me up. Start giving me the chills. Woo! This is the Juneteenth Matt Cox edition. What are you doing? Who are you texting? I'm telling him that, because I did call him.

It went through. Did he text you? No, I'm just telling him, hey, I was, we're doing a podcast. We were going to call you, but we decided against it. Ha, ha, ha. Yeah, tell him he didn't want to bother him because he has kids. Yeah. You find it?

No. Oh, come on. You can do it. Yeah. Just look up Julian Dory on Instagram. It really makes me think of chlorine. Yeah. J-U-L-I-N-D-O-R-E-Y on Instagram.

It's like his... Did you see... Hey, listen. It is his second to last post. Julian does amazing... What are they? What are they called? YouTube stories.

This is it right here. The one that says crazy. Watch. Yeah, he does great clips. Oh, come on. Yeah, he's a good clip, guy. He does great clips. Motherfucker.

What? You got to be logged in to watch it. Log in. Maybe you can go on his TikTok. Search TikTok. Julian Dory. Does he have TikTok? Oh, yeah, he's big on TikTok.

There you go. First link. That one. I saw this. We need volume. All right, refresh it. There you go. If Putin did go crazy and decided to launch a nuclear missile, it still might not actually happen because...

The way of the military is structured in Russia, the commanders have independent jurisdiction over the missile in the military. Really? In the United States, it's not like that. Real? In the United States, the president says launch, he gives a code, and done. Everybody launches. In Russia, he says launch, and each individual commander has to say launch. Which means that if the CIA were running an intelligence assessment and determined that 99% of commanders would not take the order.

That might be all the United States thieves to be like, but let's go in and take out of him. How great. I love, it's crazy how fucking calm he is about talking about this stuff, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. He's just so, like, calm. He's great. relaxed. I'm worried about his hair.

It's really puffy. Oh, he looks like Colin Kaepernick. Yeah, he's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, he does. Oh, fuck. Yeah, Julian has great clips. Great clips, he spends a lot of time

doing that. Yeah, those clips are fucking little miniature movies. They're great. I have,

I started, I told you I started a clips channel and a, um, oh yeah, and it's, I was your first subscriber.

Nice. You're welcome. And a TikTok. one too and like my subs of like it was down like I was getting like a thousand subs a month and now it's up to like two or two old two and a half like it's coming up like I'm almost your oh what's happening your subscribers on your main channel are growing jumped yeah yeah yeah even my tick talk even my tick talk with my knockoff um soft white underbelly uh it's called inside the darkness remember I start my TikTok all already has like almost 3,000 and I just started putting them up. Yeah, it's crazy. My TikTok's at like 100.

I mean, I post like once a day. Do you really? Yeah. So what are you posting on there? I'm posting the interviews of these guys. Like I do like an hour or 30 minute, whatever the interview is. And then I just take it and I cut it up. I'll find it like some of these guys say crazy stuff.

What is the name of your TikTok? He'll pull it up. It's called Inside the Darkness. Inside the Darkness, TikTok. Inside period, darkness. Inside period, the period, darkness. It's just like soft white underbelly? You called it a discount soft white underbelly, which is accurate.

But still, still, it hurt. Did it hurt, really? No, it didn't. I started laughing immediately. That's perfect. You summed it up. It's the fucking dollar store softwet underbelly. Yeah.

Oh, and listen, I got this kid named Gunner who's running. This is a soft one. This is, wow, you already got three. thousand followers. So this is this one, but you know, I have another one too, which is the other one I have is called Matthew Cox Crime.

That thing's got like 22,000 or... What? Yeah, this kid started running it for me like two months, no, six or eight weeks ago. Spelled Matthew wrong, I think. Miss Matthew. M-A-T-T-H-E-W. Cox.

Crime. Crime. Crime? Crime. Crime. crime. You still didn't. There you go.

There's top one. Yeah. So this is it. 23,000, 23,000 followers. Nice. Damn. Are you making money on this? Can you make money on TikTok?

You can, after 10,000 followers, you can monetize. But the kid, Gunner, but Gunner was like, nah, he said, I've heard mixed things. And it's just, you just don't make enough to make it worth it. He said, let's just keep going. And this is really boosted. This is doubled, almost tripled my subscribers per month. On Instagram?

or on YouTube? On YouTube. What? Yeah, because there's a button. Jones is seeing Dollar Science. Yeah, there's a button for my YouTube. There's a button somewhere over here. Watch one of it.

What's your most viewed one on here? Let's find out your most view on here. One of them's got like six... 12,000? No, no, one of them... 37,000? 96 and a half thousand. No, one of them's got 600,000.

500, 600,000? Can you sort it? I don't believe so. Yeah, it's got This guy's got it Look at his thumbnails with the arrows He's amazing Look, that's me

That's 192 On the very right Click on that one Yeah 14 Oh this was from our first podcast Damn, that's so bad Yeah, he cut up a bunch of them

He's, it's got a Here I'll tell you right now Look at that green curtain This was three years ago Damn This guy's killed Hilling it, Hunter. Shout out to Hunter.

No, no, Gunner. Gunner. That's the one. What a cool name, Gunner. Five, fucking, it's got $561,000. Damn. Which one does? Top right.

Oh, the top left. Okay. Wow. 561,000. Damn, son. But yeah, 23,000. Like, this kid, listen, you know what it had when he started? I think about six weeks ago.

Gunner, hook me up. He had 300. Nice. He had one? I had 300. I had 300. followers. How much are you paying him? Um, we'll talk about it. You're not paying him, are you? What are you talking about? You're not paying Gunner. What are you doing? What are you

doing? I'm talking. We're talking. Well, he's worth, he's worth a fortune. He's, he's, he's doing great. These are great. That's about us. This guy, I need, I need Gunner. You do need Gunner. It's a sick name. It's going to cost you now, Jones. Gunner's expensive, but yeah, Gunner's worth it. He's amazing. He's, he's amazing. Listen, I was thinking I'm going to 22,000 in six weeks. My new kid. I'm going to name him Ripsaw. We're not chainsaw.

Ripsaw. Why Ripsaw? I don't know. I heard that name there today. It sounded pretty cool. Wife would never let it. Ripsaw. Ripsaw Jones.

Is that good? I, Bushwacker Jones. I think you should talk to your wife. What else is on your agenda? That's it. Matt, over the weekend, I heard you on the radio three times. Is that funny? Is that funny?

On serious. On ESPN radio. They must have the contract with title log. I'm riding in the truck and I'm listening to, like, sports. And I hear this guy talking. I'm like, fucking Matt. And then I hear the title log guy come on. I said, no shit.

Fucking Matt. On ESPN radio. Everywhere, bro. You were in the halfway house two and a half years ago. Now you're all on ESPN. Listen. How crazy. Honestly, I was.

I was riding, thinking about it. I'm like, holy fuck, this guy, this is ESPN radio. Listen, you know what's so funny is that I'll be doing a podcast about fraud and guys are leaving comments saying, do you realize that all the commercials are from banks and mortgage companies that they're advertising on my podcast? Or, what a 360. Yeah, exactly.

This is a home title. What? A 180. Yeah. And I'm going to New York in like two weeks. I told you. I can't say for who, but I'm going there to be filmed for a thing for a big, big fancy production. Yeah, like a documentary type thing.

Fucking awesome. It's right. It, listen, you know it always sounds better than it is. No, but the journey is, is, you've come a long way, man. A long way. The Matthew Cox come up. Well, listen, and you know, listen, and every time I'll tell you right now, it was Danny's fucking bullshit saying, well, I'm like, yeah, I'm thinking I'm on the phone with you.

I'm thinking about, I'd like to do some kind of maybe a true crime. Can I talk to you? And he immediately scams me. Best, thank God he scammed me. He's like, well, you know,

the best way for you to figure out whether people are interested or not is to come on my thing, come on my podcast and tell your story. It's like, I don't know. And then I go and I do it and it like blows up and changes everything. It's like,

even when he said it, I was thinking, this dude's scamming me. He just wants me to come and tell a story. And I was like, I'll do it. He has answered a lot of questions. I mean, he's answered every question, taking all my calls, returned all my emails, texted me. I was like, he's done. He's really gone out. And you're in the fucking halfway house, no less. And so as soon as I get out, he says, hey, I haven't put anything up like two weeks. You got to come now. I answered your questions. You got to come. Like he dropped all pretends of being a nice guy. Listen, I was like, okay. And I thought that that phone call was literally our podcast that day bailed. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

That guy rescheduled. Yeah, I was like, I need somebody. I was like, did I come that night? Call Matt Cox right now, and you came, yeah. Yeah, because I figured this guy's going to stop answering questions. Like, he's been really good with explaining things to me. And then I came and I did the thing and it was great. And then I was like, hey, let's do a true crime podcast.

He was like, no, no, no. Let me think about it. And then it never happened. Still. Worked out. It still worked out. Yeah, no. Look at you now.

Absolutely. Absolutely. no good times we'll see what happens it seems listen everybody I know right now oh the doctor said to say hi oh hey doctor too bad this isn't alive we'd get a nice donation

I'm telling you right yeah I'll explain the whole gunner and the doctor and the whole this and he knows the doctor oh no he's he's orchestrating all listen this dude's doing all kinds of stuff for me what amazing

I can't tell you I can't Tell you, I don't want to jinx it. Can you tell me off air? Yes, of course. Okay, good. So, but, but, like, him, like, I've got, like, five or six guys that are, like, in the no, and all of them are like, bro, you understand, like, you were on the cusp of something really happening.

Like, all these things are about to happen. And I'm like, yeah, I felt like that for about two years. And they're like, well, it's close. And everybody, Jess, everybody's like, I'm telling you, like, I think. feel like something's about to blow up. I'm like, it would be nice. Don't forget about your friends down here.

Hat rack when that happens. I'll be shouting out every time. I'll be on Joe Rogel. I got to say, how did Danny and Hat Rock? Hell yeah. Before I forget about him next month. One last shout out.

Good times. Hey, are we going to call the emperor? I mean, you can call him. So what is the deal with him? What's the story with the emperor? Last time we talked, you thought he got arrested.

I thought he got arrested, but he didn't. For people who don't know, the emperor, who is the emperor? I mean, Frank Amadeo. Frank Amadeo. Frank Amadeo. What's his condition? He's a rapid cycling bipolar with features of schizophrenia. Right.

And he believes, since he was very young, he has believed that God is telling him he will, ultimately, he will be emperor of the world, which is an odd thing to hear. Unfortunately, he's also a lawyer and extremely competent and has. has tried to mount a coup in the Congo. There's a documentary about that called Nine Days in the Congo. He was convicted for stealing $180, defrauding the federal government out of $180 million. It actually, the number is closer to $200 million, but that's what he pled guilty to. And he initially, I mean, literally, I got pictures of him with Bush. He backed, he was one of the financial backers of the NATO, NATO,

Summit in Latvia. He owned several companies that were security companies that did like security consulting and guarded like food trucks and stuff in Afghanistan. So I mean he's he had a ton of

I think it was like 40,000 employees. He has just a ton. It was like half a billion dollars in revenue. He had a bunch of companies. So eventually he gets in trouble with the government. He, they according to him, really not even according to to him honestly according to all the paper work even the government admits they drugged him

like he was drugged they convinced him to plead guilty he pled what kind of drugs like mk ultra type deal no no no like like thorazine like ridiculous amounts of just like he's like drooling during it during his sentencing i mean he's completely out of it four zine what was it called thorazine thorazine yeah it's like a downer like it's it's it anti-psychotic you're you got his his spidey senses tingling over there is it like a vikidin on steroids. I mean, it's, yeah, it's, you know, it's, it's bad. It's, it's something you get, like, it's aphrenics.

Oh, what's that super zenics? What's your favorite drug that you love? Fetanyl. It's like fentanyl? No, no, that would jack up. That's a painkiller. No, no. Okay, it's not like fentanyl.

No. So, anyway, he, um, he eventually pleads guilty thinking he's going to get a few years and really honestly just, just drugged out of his mind. the government they they um he's a war to the state like basically he's

he's you know he's certifiably like insane like he has a guardian like he can't sign a check he's got you know they've they've got him he's got a legal guardian he's got his rights were taken away so he pleads guilty he gets sentenced they give him 22 years I go to prison I meet him I'm in trouble I got 26 years he

He handles my case because he is a lawyer. Handles my case. He ends up filing 22255s. He gets seven years knocked off my sentence the first time. Five years knocked off my sentence the second time. He eventually gets himself out of prison. Yes, please. He gets himself out of prison on COVID.

So he's out. Yeah. And you know, I found out why they... He's out on COVID. He's out on... COVID release. You know, and that's what they all call him. Like, you get out, oh, I got out on COVID.

But, I mean, you know, I mean, there's a technical, like, you know, at his age and with his, you know, his health. Health, it's dangerous for him to be in prison because COVID is rampant in prison. So they let him out. Put him on an ankle monitor. He starts working. What? Unfortunately, I believe he, there were two law firms that he was consolidating. And he started buying up other companies.

that were failing or he was he was doing some kind of consulting for companies that were failing essentially a very similar to what he was doing the first time it's my understanding my very limited understanding of what happened but what ends up happening is they he his his release gets violated he goes back to jail he's held in jail for i want to say four months never filed a reason why finally they go in front of the government in front of the judge he finally get forces the Justice Department to bring him back in front of the judge and says, why did you violate me? Why am I in custody? They said, we heard that he was suspected of committing a crime. What crime? Where's the evidence? The judge said, look, and they also said, he left the jurisdiction without permission. So they said, great, where's the evidence? The judge said, you got 10 days. 10 days later, they still hadn't provided it. The judge says, okay, you got 10 more days still. Like a month later, they still never were able to provide anything that they said they violated enforcement.

The judge said, you got to let him out. What are you doing? So they let him out. And he got back out. And I thought he had re-violated because I know someone who is in communication with him. And she had told me, I haven't heard from him in weeks. I think he may have been re-violated because they have it out for him. But I texted his attorney and his attorney said, nope, still out.

He's doing fine. you could call him if you want or text him or whatever. Here's this phone number and everything. I was like, but I didn't. So, but if you want to. Can we call him on your phone? Because he doesn't know your number? He doesn't know my number.

Okay, let's call him. I'm going to connect my phone to the speakers right now. And we're going to fucking do it, Matt. Take me a second. We're getting ready to call the emperor. What if we got the emperor on the podcast, bro? How insane would that be? I'm a do, I'm a do.

Hello? Big voice message system 40740. Oh, he texted me. Sorry, I can't talk right now. Too busy. Can I? Too busy taking over the world.

I make sure I call the right number. What should I say? I would say that I'm doing a podcast right now and we're discussing your story and would love for you to chime in. Crazy shit, Frank Amadeo. Hopefully we can get him on here soon. So what's going on with the economy right now, Matt?

What do you do? I don't know. We had this conversation. But you're the shark in the housing pool. You're supposed to know about the housing market. I mean, my understanding is just, but all I know is from listening to, you know, people that I know are that are real estate agents and listening to, you know, same stuff you hear. Is it just like the amount of houses that are on the market. there's like no houses on the market. As soon as it came on the market, it sold. Like now the inventory is like growing and growing and growing. The last three months, they said the inventory is just outrageous.

Like their houses are. Everyone trying to sell it because they think the market's going to tank. Is that why? No, because they're paying so good. Well, I think it was a seller's market before, right? Where if you were a seller, you know, but now I think that the buyers are just starting to dry up. And is it, you know, and look, everything. I mean, I think that it's just, it's just that.

Because everything's so expensive, because of inflation and everything's getting so expensive. Like if you thought, hey, I have all this extra money, I can go buy a house, I can spend a little bit more. I have a better more money on a down payment. Like none of that's possible anymore. Like in the last three months. Because the interest rates are so high, 6%. I think the average is 6% now? Well, yeah, but it's not that.

They're doing that to try and slow the economy down. Like, they're trying to slow it down because it was growing so fast, but they should have been doing that two years ago. Why? Now, I don't understand this shit at all. Why would they try to be slowing it down? because they know that there's a bubble that's going to happen. They know it's going to pop and it's going to be a crash. So they're like they don't want it to keep growing.

So you raise... So why do you want to stop people from buying houses and taking out mortgages? Well, you want to at least slow it down, not stop it. If they want to stop it, they'd make it 18%. They just want to slow it down. It's getting too much. What happens if it keeps going at the same rate at the same fast rate? I don't understand how does that get bad?

People, you got a bunch of homeowners. Why is that a bad thing? Well, because eventually when the market crashes, because look, at this point all the money that they've dumped into the economy it's now starting to take effect right like you're starting to have serious inflation and this is serious inflation like i buy tv dinners they're they're three dollars and 41 42 45 cents do you really i used to buy yeah yeah he liquezine cuisine absolutely you eat link

cuisine i love lynquizine what kind i lasagna are there different flavors yeah but no but i don't know there's 10 no's one flavors which one do you eat I eat pork and beans. I think it's turkey with an animal, uh, with, um, apple, pull this, pull a picture of this shit up.

Apple spices, is it, is it, is it turkey with apple spices? Yeah. It's delicious. I gotta see what the fuck this looks like. You ever saw a lean cuisine? Yeah, like a microwaveable meal. You know what they are now?

You know what they were. No, Al Bundy would eat. They were $3 in like $45 cents. They're now like $4.60. This is what you fucking eat, Matt? I love these things. Are you serious? Oh my God.

Pull the nutritional. back of this shit. I'm hungry as hell. I made ribs tonight. Where can I buy these for three? Says $3. I don't know where they're buying. You got to shop online, man. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 314 at Walmart, bud. Oh, listen, they're $4.50, $4.50, 460 at public. It's outrageous.

Publics is a highway robbery. Yeah, but I mean, everything is shooting through the roof. Gas. So why is the prices of all this shit shooting through the roof? Like, why? because the mortgage because the mortgages no no no why because they dumped so much money into the economy the fed the fed did they dumped it when you you say dumping money in the economy you mean sending people

the fucking trump checks the trump checks right right all the checks the trump checks and then of course biden biden didn't trump checks yeah i think didn't trump do two and then didn't biden do one plus all the ppp loans plus all of that now we're going to pay you six hundred dollars a week to stay home. So all these people having money caused inflation. Well, it caused them to go out and buy more stuff. Right. Right.

So they bought more stuff. So inventory goes down. So the guy who's... Okay. So then they go out and they produce even or they produce more stuff and they raise their prices. Because everyone's just buying. Because they're buying.

So what do we do to slow it down? We raise, we're not charging enough. We're running out of, we're running out of sodas. Charge more for sodas. it'll slow the process down and we'll make even more money for what we're doing anyway. But the government starts sending people all the money and then their prices are still high on the liquezines. Right. And they're still buying and buying. And then at some point, it becomes too expensive. But what, how many, fuck, how much share you're going to buy with $1,400? Like, it doesn't, I mean, they're still buying. It doesn't matter.

They also made car loans streamly, remember car loans in the middle of that, in the middle of the pandemic are like, they're like zero percent, one percent. They're giving everybody a car. They're giving everybody a car. They lowered the guidelines for what you had to qualify, how much the down payment. Like, anybody could get a car. Hell, yeah. I just got out of the halfway house and I got a car. You know, like, you're giving, like, I've got, like, eight months worth of credit. You're going to give me, like, 100% at that point.

It was now. Now, 735. Damn, Matt. Out of the halfway, I was, it was 750 something. But I still only had, like, six months worth of credit. Right. I got six months worth of credit and no job and barely have a job at all. You just gave me a car loan.

You got three years worth of credit now and you still got a $7.75. Yeah, but I'm kind of living off some of the credit cards now. Before I didn't have anything on the credit cards. So, you know, so you have your capacity is higher. Anyway, the point is that at some point all that money and all the things getting charged more and more and more, you know, are getting more and more expensive at some point it just can't keep going. And they stopped giving you free money.

Right. So what's happening is everything is suddenly about to just say, like, first of all, house prices. That's a perfect example. What's up, world? You just watched a clip from one of our exclusive Patreon episodes. That's right. You can get weekly, pure, uncut content straight from the jungles of Columbia. If you want to watch the full episode, make sure you go to patreon.com slash concrete videos.

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