Danny Jones Podcast - #147 - The Weaponization Of Stigma Is Fueling The War On Reality | Mike Hengstebeck

Episode Date: July 31, 2022

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Good morning, my brother. Thanks for coming back, man. How's you sleep? You know, at the end of the program. Pretty good, though. Pretty good across the board. No complaints. It's just crazy times right now.

Some of the things that are going on around the world. So sometimes it's worth losing sleep over. Lots of crazy shit going on right now, man. There is, too. It's nuts. I slept better because I didn't, I did need a fucking, an edible last night. When I don't eat the edibles, I sleep better. It's weird.

I sleep hard. harder when I eat them, but I don't wake up feeling better. Like when I don't eat edibles or I don't smoke weed before bed, I wake up feeling way more rested. It's odd. I don't know why. Yeah, like I see, I'm just circling through that point of it right now where cannabis seems to do the trick no matter what I'm doing and the edibles always help. So I'm sure at a certain point, there's just nothing that weed can't fix. Amen. Amen. So what do you've been up to, man? Listen, man, just watching a lot of new things are going on around the world right now. It's been been an amazing time.

I think that we look at some of the paranormal phenomena that's going on. You can't help but get involved with it. It's so interesting. I don't know how many of the shows you've been following or watching. You know, you've got Skinwalker Ranch. My God, I think right now you've got about 18 to 20 different shows that are on. Yeah, there's so many fucking show. People, the whole, you know, UFO, UAP phenomenon right now is just like,

it's so much bigger in mainstream than it's ever been. And with like the news that came out with the Pentagon, acknowledging it, it just makes me so skeptical of the whole thing. Oh yeah. You know, because you always, it's like,

what's there? Why? You know, back in the 50s and the 60s, it was like, deny, deny, deny. And now it's,

okay, these things are here. So I automatically say, okay, whatever the government's telling us, I'm going to automatically assume the opposite. And listen, obviously they've trained us that way.

I think at the other day, when you start looking at some of the stories that come out and how they're being, presented, especially with the Pentagon coming out and saying, hey, listen, UAPs are real. We're not sure where they come from. We're not sure what they're about. They haven't showed any aggression. And then you've got air, you've got some of the pilots from coast to coast up and down the coast of Florida,

who had the run in with the gimbal, they call it. And then one of the other guys on the other coast had they run in with a UAP that they call the Tic Tac. So some of these vehicles are just so amazing. As the one pilot that had talked about the event that took place off the coast of Florida, everybody said, well, isn't this classified information because you're about to tell? He goes, no, listen, it's a safety concern. He goes, when I initially witnessed this, we saw him on our radar on our new systems that we had, but really weren't sure what we were looking at.

Wouldn't sure if it was just background. And he goes, then we actually saw one. And it came between this particular pilot and his co-pilot, who was, was wingman and actually split the plane went between them. And it scared the pilot so bad. He said, I didn't know what it was. It was a circle with a square inside. You're great at protecting your data,

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the ones hit, oh, look, they crashed because he wasn't a good pilot versus something hit the plane. So he said, I want to make everybody aware of that. So that's because I didn't care whether it was classified or not. I was going to come out and explain to the people that this is a safety issue. It has nothing to do with, you know, aliens. He said, I don't know. That's what it was.

What do you think that Tick-Tac really is? Like, my opinion on it has changed, but what do you think it is? I think it's definitely something that the U.S. has. As long as I've been following this trend of UFOs, I've never seen that Tick-Tac. And any photographs or had people talk about it, what's interesting about this is that, you know, obviously the Tick-Tac takes two different looks. If it's coming at you, it looks round. And if it's going, what's the word I'm looking for?

If it flies at an angle by you, you can actually tell it's a long projectile with nothing, no wings, nothing on it to the outside. And it's obviously something that's anti-gravity, has the ability. I've heard that some of the individuals talk about within the federal government that DARPA and some of these other groups are 400 years ahead of time. So obviously looking at a vehicle like that, if it's 400 years ahead of a. us and technology wise that's doing some amazing things yeah one of the theories of it being time travelers is very interesting to me like it could because they they kind of like appear and reappear out of like out of they're not it doesn't seem like it's real matter like you know what I mean it seems like not only is it there's no real photographs of it like you would

think if there's something like this we would be drowning in photographs and videos of it, right? But we're not. Right. So if that's the case, it's almost like whoever is maneuvering these things has control of that. And they have the ability to manipulate light, manipulate space time, and avoid detection like that.

So just like the idea of it being time travelers to me almost makes more sense than anything. Well, it's crazy too because when you, you think about this for the most part like let's look at skinwalker ranch real quick they're talking about these portals that are opening up and they actually believe and listen when i originally heard this i kind of chuckled at it and thought you know why are the why are this this group of people saying this but they talked about bigfoot or they talk about skin walkers coming through these portals well watching the skin the skinwalker ranch program it's on tv right now a couple of nights ago they were trying an experiment they're trying to shoot these rockets up into space because there's some

sort of phenomena about a mile above the actual property. They're trying to figure out what this, this phenomena is. Every time they shoot something up into it, it gets like bounced off of it. During the process of this, they've got cameras running all over the place. And they've actually picked up some lights, and they actually referred to them as portals. They're asking the question, are these portals that these creatures are able to pop back and forth from? Now, I initially kind of chuckled at some of this because I thought, you know, why would

Bigfoot, why would the government be interested in keeping Bigfoot or Harryman or Sasquatch a secret from everybody that didn't make sense to me originally I said this doesn't make sense I watched a program the other night and they said listen they believe and this and this is a program called exhibition Bigfoot dr. Moia Alexander who's on there is a leading professional in paleoatology and information with regards to animals especially gorillas and other animals that walk upright so she she began to who evaluate this whole program and started looking at it and found these lights, these portals, these orbs were floating around.

And I started to kind of chuckle, but you start seeing them on TV, and she doesn't understand what she's looking at. Now, keep in mind, too, as a doctor, she can't lie. If she lies about anything that she is involved with, she runs the risk of losing her medical license across the board. So when she comes out and starts talking about some of these events are taking place, you kind of scratch your head. but she said that one of the interesting things was that, and that she believed, that Bigfoot had the ability to cloak himself.

Well, when I started thinking about it, the federal government would love to know how that's happening. And whether it's happening with his fur or his hair, they're really not sure, but they definitely believe that he's somehow cloaking himself. And watching the program, they were able to actually videotape some material where they saw a shadow but no actual body. And they looked at it from ten different angles trying to figure out what it was. and it more or less prove their point with regards to there is something bigger that's going on. Is it truly time travel? Is it, are they using these portals to, you know, travel around the world? Also, you know, all the other planes that are out there, these different backdrops for where they come from,

different planets or different time zones or different, you know, areas of phenomena that occur to try to figure out what these things are doing. Are they sent here to monitor the planet Earth? everybody ties them in with with the UFO phenomena which I'm starting to actually buy off on which I initially had no inkling I thought now that's not that's ridiculous what would these things have to do with each other I think that's one of the reasons that people are able to dismiss it so much honestly because when you start talking about UFOs and then you start talking about bigfoot you're like oh come the fuck on oh yeah can we just talk about like do you have to be a bigfoot expert and be a u. like once you do that you're just like that's kind of like even me like you're like you can't even me like you can't you can't even me like you kind of like people like you lose me sometimes when when you talk when people talk about that like automatically if you're into UFOs you you're automatically interested in bigfoot and you know all these other things and these conspiracy theories and there's just a stigma to it well it sounds so

funny because your whole life you're told there's no monsters you know there's nothing out there it's all safe and warm and fuzzy and then as you start to listen to some of these shows you know they start talking about um UFOs and individuals being taken from their beds at night you know and having all these different programs and processes done to their body to figure out what's going on. And I can't believe that all these people are not being truthful. I mean, some of these people, you can go back to the 40s and 50s when there were a couple that was taken out of New Hampshire, Betty and Barney, they were a couple, black and white couple. He was black, she was white.

Betty and Barney Hill. There you go. And they were actually coming home one night from an event that took place and had to run in with a UFO. And to listen to him go under hypnosis and listen to him the terror that's in his voice as he realizes that these are something else other than earthly entities is very real. So I don't think that, you know, people like him and they didn't want that attention initially because they were a black and white couple. And back in the 60s, that wasn't something that was real popular. So I think to watch what he did to step out to try to make people aware of the fact

that these things are real and that it's going on. And the stories just continue to build. Well, it's interesting. Do you remember what year the Betty and Barney Hill story came out? Like, was that in the 50s or the 60s? I think it was the late 50s, early 60s. Yeah. I want to say probably like 62, 63.

What's interesting about this whole UFO phenomenon is that when the first stories of flying saucers broke in America, I think it was 1952. And there was a story published about flying saucers. flying over Washington, D.C. I remember the story. What else happened in 1952? The very first H-bomb ever detonated on Earth. Well, there you go. When the United States tested that Mike,

the first H-bomb off the Pacific, those Pacific Islands. So it's, so what was that? Did we send a signal? Did we send a signal to the cosmos saying that, hey, we now have the technology. Absolutely. We're close to discovering our source code. We are close to being able to visit you.

Absolutely. I think, too, when you look at the bigger consideration, I think there's something going on with a planet. I don't know whether it's mineral-driven. I mean, if you go back and if you look at the kind of the way it's laid out, if you look at the group called the Onanaki when they came here to this country, to this planet, they're kind of painted as an alien group that wanted the resources of gold. and would actually grind the gold up and eat it.

And they said it actually made their bodies like a semiconductor just more efficient across the board, which is bizarre in itself. But if you take it and you start looking back from that point on and go forward, it's not so odd. You start to see some of the similarities. You start to hear some of the things that are, that they talk about in the Bible,

as really not so much a spiritual thing, but more as an entity or an alien. And basically they're just coming down here for the minerals. I think when you start to review most of the stories, it's about that. They're still looking at us from across the group. I've heard through Project Disclosure that there was 60-something different alien life forms that were actually coming to this planet. Project Disclosure?

Project Disclosure. Project Disclosure came out in 1998. It was put on by a group of scientists who brought in, I think, I want to say, 46 or 47 former military personnel, all with cryptozoological. classifications and they would begin to tell you some of the things that they had experienced or what they had actually seen. One of the guys there was said that he was a primary job was to review video footage of combat and to look at what you know where the enemy was and where we were positioned at. And he said in the process of this they

brought him into a back room and he said I was waiting for my chief petty officer to come back to show me some additional information on the video. when one of the guys in the room called me over, he goes, hey, man, come over, check this out. And he said, so he walked over and the guy said, hey, this is the dark side of the moon. And those buildings are not ours. So he said, as I stood there,

I realized they didn't have the classification or the security clearance to be looking at this. And he goes, I wasn't actually got afraid because I thought my chief petty officer is going to come back in and see me standing over here and I'm going to get in trouble. So he kind of walked away from it. He goes, but it was that moment when I realized,

hey, there's something bigger going on. Why would that guy begin to even tell me that? And again, we were in an environment where it's classified information. And so everything's going to be precise or it's going to be his best guess. And at that point, that's when I began to realize, hey, there's something bigger than all of us that are truly going on around the world. And so he began to get more interested in it. And this group began to get more interested in it until they actually came out.

And in this group, again, project disclosure. It was a great group of people that came out. They all had something different to say about what took place, what's going on within the federal government, how they're doing it. You had another guy that came out who was the one of the, it wasn't a prime minister of Canada. He was the defense minister. And he came out. Yeah, you mentioned him before. Yeah.

And he came out and said, hey, you know, the UFOs are as real as the planes to fly over your home. And then he made a comment that he said that the, the America had been dealing with the tall whites, which supposedly is this very tall, Nordic-looking blonde hair, blue-eyed group of folks. But the U.S. had been dealing with them for probably the last 15 or 20 years. Well, here's the interesting thing about specifically the Tic Tac UFOs. So if the Tick, the Tick, the UFOs that Commander David Fravers spoke about flying off the coast of, I think it was San Diego. Correct. The exact way he describes those things, the way they moved, how fast they moved, the shape of them, how they came up from out of the water.

there was a video post I think it was by Jordan I don't know if you can find this but there's a video that was posted by James Fox he's a director who works on a bunch of he's worked on a bunch of documentaries on the same subject and he posted a video of a pilot

from I believe it was the 70s or the 60s being interviewed describing the same exact kind of UFO when he was flying somewhere I forget where he was flying I believe he was flying from like South America to America. So it was an international flight or some sort, yeah.

Yeah, an international flight of some sort. And he describes this exact same object in the 50s. So if this was going on, if people had reported seeing something just like this in the 50s, like what are the chances that we would have had that technology back then? Oh, and listen, that's really, I think, the biggest conception or misconception on this whole thing. You know, we talk about from the 50s and 60s, because we just finally get some sort of proof of or some sort of confirmation that these things actually exist and are around. I think, you know, when you look at, listen, we go right back to ancient aliens to show. I think we've all seen the show ancient aliens at all.

And, dude, they show so many things there that make you think about where we really came from and what we're doing on the planet to begin with. And that you go back and you look at some of these flying machines that they perpetrate in the art from the 14th. and 15th century. I think that all these artists saw something in the sky or aware of it. And the time, too, you know, you couldn't actually talk about extraterrestrials or other planets because the church ran everything. And if the church thoughts you were running against them, they're going to put you to death. They're going to say you're a witch.

They're going to make up this situation and put you to death. And that'll be the end of it. So I think some of these artists put them in the drawings just to show kind of a silent method of showing, hey, there's something in the skies. The weird thing about these shows is the shows like ancient aliens and even the Skinwalker ranch show. There's something about them that just kind of like doesn't do the subject any favors. I'm sure it gets people interested to an extent. But the fact that it's like, I've watched them and I've been involved in creating television.

And I just, there's so much manufacturing. drama in those shows, especially the Skinwalker Rant Show. You know, there's so much that goes on with coordinating those people and setting up shoots. Like, these things aren't just randomly happening while they happen to have a crew there. There's a lot of money that goes into producing these shows. And they have to be on schedule. They have to have things set up.

Like, they're setting, I guarantee you, they're setting up 99% of the things that are happening during that show. I'm not saying that none of those things have happened. I truly believe that I mean there's no way anybody could rationally explain the fucking cattle mutilations that have been happening

on those ranches like these cows that have been meticulously cut with zero drops of blood anywhere and these cats like you said they were stacked on top of each other there's no blood the organs were removed perfectly

with precision like some sort of surgeon mutilated these cows like there's no way of explaining this stuff but these shows the TV shows and dramatizing it like that and having these things set up just from my understanding of how television production works it's like i can't take it seriously i have to see like like my whole thing is there why isn't the science the real scientific community like the real scientists and researchers out there

why aren't they debunking the shit out of skinwalker ranch sure well i mean listen look at Travis, Travis, Travis, well, this is a Travis, what is his last name? He's a PhD, he's a scientist. He comes from a heavy background in this whole thing.

And he's the one who got invited to Skinwalker Ranch. And he initially said, look, I thought I was going to get out there and I'm going to tell these guys, hey, here's what's really going on, this phenomenon that's happening. It's not this, this covert, secret, you know, anything.

There's a reasonable explanation for all of it's going on. He goes from one of the first guys I met here, he said, one of the first things they told us we couldn't do was dig on the ranch. Can't dig on the ranch. Can't dig on the ranch. The one of the hands that actually came up thought,

that's ridiculous. It's the most retarded thing I've ever heard in my life. And he goes, so he actually started, he went out and bought a bobcat and was doing some work on the ranch, and he was digging. Somehow, the top of his skin on his skull separated from the skull and the fatty material, and he ended up having to go into the hospital. And this just was the event from digging.

Now, he didn't actually keep saying, oh, this isn't real. this was just something that, I mean, the doctors don't understand why this happened. So when Travis Parker came on the show, who's the scientist with the Ph.D., he started to look at this and said, the only thing I could have done that was microwave energy. So it would have to be directed microwave energy. So he said, for me, that was odd because, again, where the hell is this energy coming from on the grounds here? So he goes, as we started to kind of monitor this energy, this fluctuation that was going on, we noticed that was associated with the phenomena.

So they brought in, they, again, additional scientists to come in. They were looking for a portal that was in one of the buildings. And what they brought in, they brought in some thermal cameras so they could videotape this. And in the process of videotaping it, the front of the door turned very, it was like 20 degrees colder than the rest of the house.

And this was kind of the first thing that took place that really got Travis's attention. Like, hey, we can't explain why it's 20 degrees colder. even during the filming of this, they had a small orb that came into the picture, which, again, they're looking through a thermal camera. So he said, if that was a live animal, it would come out orange. This thing was blue, blue indicating it was cold.

So he said, I don't know what would be able to travel like that through the air and not have a color other than something that was cold. So as he began to get farther and farther into trying to debunk all these different theories that were going on, nothing more and more phenomena kept occurring. They, between phones not working, batteries dying, every group they brought out there to run specific scientific tests encountered some sort of a problem that would not allow their equipment to work properly. They brought out a group of astrologers because they wanted to map the sky above this, what they're calling the triangle. And so they bring these guys in with all this heavy, uh,

super complicated equipment to look to map out the skies. And for some reason, when they pointed their cameras, these big telescope cameras into this mile high area, they could not get a reading on any of the stars. It would not allow them to read the stars. So every time some event took place, there was something that was blocking it that would not allow it to happen. The guy said, this has never happened before. This has never happened before. I don't know what's going on. I can't, I'm trying to get a copy of the stars so that the telescope knows where we're at. And it'll recognize all the different constellations and the different planets. It takes me about five minutes to calibrate it.

Now, if you moved it away from this area that they were videotaping, he goes, I didn't have any problem. I could get a lock on it right off the get it. But it was like there was something blocking the actual video there. So again, Travis being there is trying to figure out, hey, what is causing this? So the phenomena continued to get bigger and bigger until they ended up doing some ground penetrating radar and found something underground. They didn't know what they were looking at.

They decided, hey, we're going to start drilling. So they decided to drill into the mesa. As they drilled into the mesa, these strange phenomenals begin to happen, and they pulled out this metal. And they initially didn't know what the metal was, but they pulled it out in chunks, hundreds of pieces. And they decided to send them off to one of the universities there in Utah, to have a metallurgy done to figure out what it was.

And the guy came back and said, dude, it's two things. It looks like a high-grade semiconductor material, but it also looks like the same stuff they put on the outside of the shuttle so that when it reenters the atmosphere, it doesn't burn up. he goes so what would this be doing under a mesa in the desert in the middle of nowhere so the plot just continues to get thicker and thicker with regards to what they're looking at they also viewed um went back and viewed the film and saw this light that moved across the sky and of course the first question he came in is that a portal what is that thing moving across

the sky that has it's just a white light looks like it's flickering and they they all nobody could see it when they were originally just watching the video itself they had to go back and review the actual video to see it on there. So whether it had cloaked itself or it was hiding in some sort of a manner where they couldn't see it originally. But these are all the events that are taking place on Skinwalker Ranch that continue to mystify everybody. When you go back and you look at the original group that owned the ranch with the

Shermans and then when Bigelow came into the picture, they worked on there for 20 years. Now there's some stories that they pulled up some metal. Bigelow owned it for 20 years? For 20 years. and work with the federal government to try to figure out what was going on there. And I'm not sure what the process were for him to sell it from...

Well, he only bought it for 200 grand. I'm sure he sold it for millions. And again, yeah, that never actually comes up. But I'm sure, listen, this was something that was phenomenal. Whoever wanted to learn more about this was going to buy the property. So obviously, I think he probably knew that as well. So I'm sure he got his investment back.

Here's a thing about people like him. The guy, and this also ties into the TV show. Okay. The billionaire who bought Skin White, Ranch from Bigelow, whoever owns it now. He's a fucking star of the show. And that's a thing about people with money. If they're not already in the spotlight or they don't have attention, they want attention.

Sure. They're rich. Now they want to be famous. So if I'm a fucking millionaire and I'm like, oh, I want some more, you know, I want some more attention. I want a TV show. I want to be, uh, I want to buy this. This will be a perfect opportunity for me to get famous.

Sure. So I'll buy Skinwalker Ranch and now I'll have a fucking deal with Discovery and I'll be the star of a TV shows. and the guys in every fucking episode of the show. Oh, yeah. Now, listen, Brian Frugal, he's the owner. He's their real estate mogul, big time, obviously, in Utah. His thing is, they actually do a bio on him in the show when it first started because his interest was, like so many others, hey, what is it with this phenomenon? Where do we come from? You know, who's visiting us? And so I was really more interested in the dynamics of the events that took place on the Sherman Ranch.

you know when you have he had a nephew that came down and on the race this was i'm going to say probably the second year they had the show on and he said that he was there with his uncle one night they were out walking the dogs because it was probably dusk just the sun had just gone down and these orbs came down off the mountain he said they stopped and watched him come down they were blue orbs and he said as they came down they went across the top of the trees well the dogs kind of wigged out and all the dogs all of a sudden took off after him and ran into this wood area, I don't know, a couple of hundred yards away from where they were at. And he said, we heard the dogs yelp and then nothing.

We didn't see the lights come back out, nothing happened. So we looked for them that night, couldn't find him, came back the next morning, and something had crushed them into the ground. And there was a burn mark all the way around them. But all three of the dogs had been crushed into the ground. And the guy that was there said, is this what they told you? And he goes, I was there the day this happened. He goes, I was actually living with my uncle when this event took place.

He goes, this wasn't something he told me. This is something I saw. So it was those events that began. And they started to look at this blue orb as being malevolent. They said this thing was evil, it was mean. They got that feeling from the first time it came down from the hills as to what it was. But it's coming off the mesa. So everything gets directed back to the mesa.

They start looking at, you know, what's under the mesa. They had brought back one of the security guards that had worked for Bigelow originally. And he worked there for six years. And he told the guys, hey, there's a cave over here on the side of this mesa that we don't know where it went. there was some strange sounds coming out of it. We never got involved into it. Now, the nice thing about this new group with Brandon Fugel's group is that they're bringing these meters with them that read the different,

what's the word I'm looking for? The difference in energy coming out of some of these holes. They don't know what's going on. Travis Taylor got burned, and these were actually burns on his face that occurred from looking into an old way. well. Two of the other guys there that were standing outside the well, one of them during the investigation, got lightheaded and almost passed out. They grabbed him to the side and they brought him over. About two months later, they played a frequency, and there's this ongoing frequency

that seems to be on the ranch. It's 1.6 gigahertz. And they're trying to figure out what runs at 1.6 gigahertz on the planet that would be making this sound. And they've come up to the conclusion that they can't find absolutely anything that operates off of 1.6 gigahertz. So what they did was they went to a radio station and they said every time we play this, something happens in the air. We get these UAPs all over the place. So they went to the radio station and had them blasted over the internet and that night, he goes, things went crazy in Utah.

He goes, so they were trying, now they can make these things happen almost at random. He goes, so now we take this 1.6 gigahertz and he was talking to one of these other astrophysicist about what were the chances that this could be a signal from space. And so they sat down and talked to him. He goes, if this is a signal from space, it will always come from the same location all the time. He goes, you also want to have anybody else that's in the area aware of this, so they also can listen for it.

So it's not just you getting it, it's them as well. And so he started going through and trying to figure out what equipment on the planet works at 1.6 gigahertz, and there's nothing. He goes, microwave ovens don't do that. Airplanes don't do that. There's no communications that do that. Everything even though puts out an RF signal,

again, even microwave ovens, there was still something odd about this 1.6 gigahertz. And every time they play it now, something shows up in the sky. And it looks like the last night they identified it as a Tic Tac. They said, hey, dude, that's what the Tick Tick-Took-T looks like. And this was two former Navy communication guys that were on the boats with David Fravor when they saw that Tick-Tac that night. And they said, we watched it for over two hours. He goes, I was lucky because I just happened to be up in the,

the primary command center for the ship. And he goes, but once they first saw these, they locked everything down. He goes, so I got to witness the whole thing from beginning to end and trying to figure out what the hell these things were around the ship. Because people say, well, why didn't you shoot them down?

He goes, we didn't feel like that there was a violence going on. There was nothing locking on. There wasn't any weapons being used. He goes, so we just wanted to more or less look over and try to figure out what the hell are we looking at here. So as as more and more people get involved, with, especially on the scientific's level, the questions get bigger and bigger. So Skinwalker Ranch right now, dude, every time they play this 1.6 gigahertz, something happens

in the sky. So they're trying to, again, really understand what this frequency is, you know, what, what does it bring into the forefront? Why do these things keep responding to it this way? Well, Skin Walker Ranch, the weird thing is, is that, like, now you're connecting UFOs with demons. Sure. Because the skin, like, the legend of Skinwalker Ranch was these two Indian tribes, right? The youths. The Utes and the Navajos. Yeah. Ute and the Navajos, right? What was the story with them? The Utes of Navajo had an ongoing battle, and I want to say, I believe it was because the Navajos were actually working with the Americans at the time. They were helping them

understand, you know, what the land was all about, and the Uts did not like that at all. They did not like that. So the Navajos, excuse me, it's the other way around, the Uts were working with the government, and the Navajos didn't like that, so they put a curse on these guys. And that's what it consisted of is this Skinwalker thing that has the ability to turn, I guess, from a human to an animal. And it seems to go most likely like a wolf.

And even during Skinwalker, he said they had found these huge footprints that were up on the mesa. And he said, but the strange thing was that they followed the wood tracks until it turned into footprints. And the guy said, I'm not saying that this thing turned back into a human entity, but where did the footprints of the wolf

go versus where these footprints of the humans came from. So again, just another question that gets thrown up to make you say, well, wait a minute. And I don't, I mean, here's the situation. When you look at exhibition Bigfoot, when you look at the Skinwalker Ranch, and you're looking at the players who are trying to figure out what's going on, listen, I believe all these folks. Now, could there, you know, be something going on on on the network side where they're actually

playing games, making wood knocks or making these adventures? I would say, okay, that's possible, but I don't think it's likely. So I think when you start looking at, again, what these guys are trying to investigate it, you know, it's all related, whether it's UFO on in there, whether it's the Skin Walker, whether it's portals, they all seem to be related. And especially right now, I mean, again, we've got over 20 shows that are on the programs right now dealing with all this. Well, it's so fun and it's so fascinating and it's so entertaining. So there's, I mean, there's money in it. You have a fucking, I mean, you have a built-in audience for this kind of stuff, especially the more wild and the more outrageous. and the more over the top you make it,

it just, it just makes it that much more exciting. And the thing, the thing about it is, it's just like, I'm so interested in the stigma that revolves around it. And especially when it comes to UFOs, because,

you know, so many people, when you start talking about UFOs, like, I could have a conversation with somebody about this, about this topic. And then once they start talking about demons and Bigfoot, it's like,

whoa, you're losing so much, much credibility. And the thing about it is I was just watching a video yesterday, or yesterday with this guy what the fuck was his name?

Motherfucker. He was talking, oh, how put off. He, how put off was a guy who founded that organization called To the Stars. Okay. With the guy from Blake 182. Oh, okay. Okay, yeah, I'm familiar with that. Yep.

And he was talking about the government's weaponization of stigma and how the government will manipulate certain government organizations will manipulate stigma to de-incentivize people from taking the scientific undertaking of looking into certain. things. Interesting. So they will use certain stigma or quote quote unquote conspiracy theories to detract people from certain subjects because it could be a security risk or a national security risk. Sure. Again, if you think about just real quick when they talked about these bigfoot's being have the ability to cloak themselves. I mean, can you imagine a combat team that was able to cloak themselves running into a conflict? I mean, the havoc they could create and problems they could cause would be endless. I mean, there's nothing you could really even do about it.

Right. So, yeah, when you start to look at that bigger picture, you know, that's what, again, when I saw this whole thing like Bigfoot with, in the scientific communities involved with this and, you know, the federal government, even in this, in this exhibition, Bigfoot, one of the interesting things is, as they're out there looking for this, and they're in a, this is in upstate California, up, northern California. And they find these, some sort of, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, uh, covered manhole that's locked down that allows, that takes them underground.

And there's all this evidence that points to the federal government back in the late 50s, early 60s that were studying these phenomena with Bigfoot. And they were actually out there in these facilities. And they find these things in the middle of nowhere. But they can't get into it. They're afraid to start digging into them and, you know, tear the top off, not to understand what they're getting into. But there's definitely these federal facilities that are out there that are underground and that are or were looking at this phenomenon.

as a real event across the board. So even when you look at, like, if you look at Bigelow, his claim to fame was really on NIDS. NIDS was the National Institute of Discover and Science. And they were able to take a serious look, again, trying to use the scientific approach to figure out what was really going on Skinwalker Ranch. And I'm sure they're aware of things.

When Bigelow left, he didn't say, you know, hey, this is what we found. This is what he just literally sold the ranch, walked away. And I don't think why they haven't met yet, Bigelow and Fugel to do a comparison of notes. They're going, hey, what did you guys find versus where we're at now trying to find? And the scientific approach is so much differently now with Travis Taylor, who's the physicist and PhD, really trying to figure out the communication side of this whole thing. So the 1.6 gigahertz became a question, this phenomenon that was happening over which they refer to as the triangle.

is, you know, a big question mark, what is going on a mile above this? And why can't they, because every time we get ready to do an experiment there, something goes wrong. The equipment stops working. And he goes, and these guys that are out here doing this are saying, hey, we've never had problems with our equipment before. Batteries are going dead. They brought up huge tractor out there to dig an area.

This was a monster tractor. They put a brand new, you know, like a car battery inside this vehicle. It was a diesel, big diesel unit. And within 10 minutes, the battery had died. and the vehicle was no longer obviously couldn't run because of that of that fact. So again, Skin Walker Ranch. Just question mark after question mark after question mark is to really what's going on. And so I look at this from perspective of Fugel really just wanting to find out at the end of the day, what is this really all about?

I don't know. I mean, if they came out tomorrow and said, hey, listen, there's a spaceship that's been buried here. It's been a base for, you know, years and years and years. I don't know what that does for us across the board. does it help benefit mankind? I mean, are we going to have free power now because of it? And I think that's the big question as well. Why are they looking for these?

What's the end game? You know, where do we plan on? I mean, if we found out tomorrow, hey, yep, aliens have been coming here. You know, it's part of our culture. It's what they do. I mean, do we make friends with them? Do we coexist with them in a way that we are working for them?

Or are we already not working for them? If you were running the United States, if you're ahead of the CIA, knew that aliens were visiting us, what would you want the citizens of the country and the world to think? Well, you know what? How would you try to disguise it? Would you want the people to know? I wonder what you would do if you were in power. Sure. Well, you know, I think, too, the fear was that the people were going to think that the Bible wasn't relative if they found out that aliens were real and that, you know, chaos would occur civilly throughout mankind and people

would, well, there's no reason for me to be good now, so I can be bad. I don't necessarily think that's the true. I think people are more enlightened today and more spirit. spiritual than more religious. And I think at the end of the day, most people tend to look at it from that perspective. There were a couple of gentlemen, and I can't think of their names off the top of my head. They were in Muscalo, I'm not saying that right, Louisiana. They were fishing one night. And they actually had this alien ship land behind them.

They initially thought it was the police department because they were fishing on a no trespassing lot. Because we thought was the cops pulling up. So we thought we were in trouble. So as we turned around, it was these actually alien beings that were floating down to them. and brought them back on the ship. And after this whole event took place, the younger of the two guys said, he called the actual sheriff's office and was reporting this.

And the older guy was like, dude, you're nuts. They're never going to believe this story. There's no way. So they came down and got them that night and brought him back to the station. They separated the guys. They interviewed them initially separately, and both of them said the same thing.

And then they put them in a room together, but what the guys didn't know is they stuck a recorder in there with them. So they got to hear these guys talk about, hey these guys don't believe us they think we're nuts you know they'll ask them if we're drinking and they ran experiments on them they said they stuck things up their nose um they were looking at different parts of their bodies uh they were looking at bone density they were trying to figure out the nervous system um he talked about a being that came up and actually was able to stick her fingers down his throat which made him bleed to look for something because i don't know what they were looking for

through my sinuses he actually thought that they had planted uh some sort of a tracking device on him um but he was real adamant about wanting to even talk about it because it sounds so it sounds just so unbelievable that you know again who's going to believe my story Barney Hill said that they like extracted semen from him and it seems to be a common theme you know when you look at the animal mutilations some of the guys now believe that they're taking the blood from the cows I guess that it's very similar to our blood and they're using that for purposes of regenerating whatever but that's what it comes back down to the DNA process so when you I didn't realize this.

Your DNA is really easy to manipulate. I had a friend of mine who said, oh, well, if you eat certain foods, this can change your DNA. And I thought, well, that's a... Really? Like what? Listen, I said the same thing. I didn't think that could happen that easy.

And then... What foods did he say? It could manipulate it. This was actually a particular type of food that a girl was eating because she had very fair skin and we keep getting burned and she ate this particular food

that stopped that from happening. And when they went in and looked at her system, they actually figured out her DNA had changed. changed. So I thought that was a joke initially. I'm not like, no, listen, man, it takes some sort of, you know, a scientific process to make your DNA, DNA change, not just a simple eating habits change. So food can dive or can change your DNA across the board. And I started to research that a little bit to kind of, wait a minute, is that a true statement? Only to find out is a true statement. So, you know, again, I think that understanding of food can change your DNA and we're dealing with

creatures that are trying to, I don't know, improve us? Is that what they've always been here to do? Are there, you know, if you look at, if you look at Germany, Germany kind of had the same history as America. They had a crash there in the Black Forest, a UFO crash here in the Black Forest. I do believe that Hitler recovered that and brought that back in. If you take a look at where Germany was as far as the technology wise, I mean,

they had already come out with guided missile systems. They had two different types They had the V1 and the V2 rockets The U.S. couldn't, we were still trying to get rockets off the ground I just got done watching a huge, a bit, a long video on Operation Paperclip Well, there you go, there you go, and they're dealing with this very subject.

They come up with a flying wing. They had that way before us. We could launch, Goddard was able to launch a rocket straight up. You know, the Germans were sending these buzz bombs over Britain and just bombing the shit out of them. So at the end of the day, People started to kind of look at this.

Well, wait a minute. Where are the Germans coming from? And it's odd, too. Where did Hitler come up with blonde hair, blue-eyed people? That he wanted everybody else to have this look. If you look at the tall whites, what they're called, they have blonde-haired, blue eyes, very Nordic-looking. And they're kind of being pushed in the same category. I try to figure out why Hitler didn't have blonde-haired blue eyes.

He wasn't from a blonde-haired family. No. You know what I'm saying? So where did that come from? Where did the flying wing come from? we had that technology today. When we brought Werner von Braun here was a major in the Nazi military. Once we brought him back here, 11 years later, we went to the moon.

Right. So he was able to... Allegedly. Allegedly going to the moon. Like I say, well, that's a whole other conversation. But it's watching what he said was able to do. Now, one of the things he brought to the table were gyros. The U.S. never used gyros before.

We didn't have them on any of our vehicles. And this was one of the things that allowed this vehicle to turn. So as they launched it off, it could actually, you know, make those corrections so that it flew over Britain. And the subject matter was, or the basic function of the rocket was to do was run out of gas. And then it would, you know, obviously run flying to the city somewhere and usually kill a mass amount of civilians. Yeah. I mean, when you get into the whole, I think part of the crazy thing about the technology, that we got from the Germans is like like specifically there was one ship I forget what it was

called I think it was called like the one wing right it looked exactly like the stealth bomber absolutely it was the same exact thing when they were so far ahead of I mean there's no tail on this thing they were so far ahead of what everybody else was doing across the board which I can only believe was due to to alien technology now did I mean I from what I understand now the Chinese have been extremely quiet they just matter of fact they just finally released that they actually have pyramids in China and they did? Yes, they did. So, which China had never let anything like that out before.

How long ago did this come out? Probably five months ago, six months ago. Huh. And it was the first time that China had really released any information with regards to their history. And they were, it was guarded information as well. So you start to see, well, wait a minute, if you had pyramids in China, they had pyramids in Egypt, they had pyramids in South America, yet these organizations or these groups of people had no way of communicating with one another. I mean, it obviously tells you there's something bigger going on. Now, where the pyramids used for power consumption, where they used as a burial mound,

they're still trying to figure that out. I think there's a large percentage of the scientific community now that believe that these were some sort of either for communications purposes or power purposes. The weird thing about the pyramids, too, is, like, building them and the connection with sound. And like I was telling you, I was watching this thing about this whole thing about sound and how everything is tied into sound. And sound is tied into the creation of everything.

And what was that place again called in Florida where the guy had these giant structures in South Florida? It was called the Coral Castle. The Coral Castle. Coral Castle. And Coral Castle is similar to some of the big monoliths around the world. Like, how did this guy, this thing was apparently built a long time ago? I want to say it was in the 30s.

in the 30s. He was initially on the east coast of Florida. This was a real small guy. He was a German guy from Europe and had built the original Coral Castle. Like I say, I want to see over by probably Melbourne, somewhere in that area. And during the process of this had had a crush on a 16-year-old girl, which back in the day obviously was not going to be tolerated. And I think the city where he initially built this turned out against him and they didn't like him now. And they felt from him as a threat.

So he ended up having to move the Coral Castle to Homestead, Florida. And in dealing with the people who were hauling these stones, now this guy weighed 135 pounds. He didn't have any other workers that worked with him. He did this all on his own. He would cut chunks of coral out of the ground that were, you know, three, four, five tons. And used a, when you look at the picture, one of the pictures they show is a, it's a tripod. It's set up over this huge, massive rock.

Oh, this is it. Oh, there you go. so as they as they set it up over this rock the one interesting thing is he said that it's still in place so they're cutting it out of the ground and the the guy who was showing you the picture said I know you're looking at this going like

oh this is how he moved those but the problem is how did he get the rope around underneath this two ton piece of block that he was trying to pull up yeah that's pretty wild this was apparently building this is allegedly built in the 30s you said

I believe so I believe when it was in 30s, late 30s. So if you look to the right over there, that right there there, that centerpiece, now this is what really kind of got more attention because that centerpiece, the bearings had eventually worn out. They had to take that thing apart. Oh, that thing spins?

Spins. It actually spins around. Holy shit. Dude, you can just move it with your hand. So what they did was they had to bring in a special truck to lift the stone off the top so that they could get to the bearings on both the bottom and the top. of that stone. And he goes, we almost couldn't do it because the stone was so heavy and so big,

we didn't have any equipment that could pick it up. So how did this guy move this here, place it in that location? And this individual that did this claim that he knew the way that the Egyptians were using some sort of magnetism to move these rocks. And one of the guys was actually moving it was a truck driver. He said, I would leave my truck there overnight and come back the next morning and the stone would already be loaded on the truck. He goes, I don't know how he got it on there. It wasn't like he had a, you know, a forklift. He goes, so I would just pick it up, drive it to Homestead,

drop the trailer, and then he would do whatever he does with it. So he actually showed a device. I saw one here a couple of weeks back where they actually had a device that he said was creating this magnetism. And this is how he said that he believed this is how the Egyptians were moving all the stuff through magnetism. Is that the guy right there? That's him right there. That's him right there.

the modern day stonehenge of Florida. I mean, it's an amazing, when you start to look at it and think, what did this guy do? And how could he possibly move these? Look how Lily is. Yeah. Wild.

But again, it's just one of those things where it makes you scratch your head and go, well, you know, again, I wish we obviously, he could have leveled with us and said, hey, this is how I'm actually doing this, because it would have taken a lot of the guesswork out of it. But he had to have some sort of means to move all this, these rocks. They're massive.

I would highly recommend, too, if you ever get a chance to go down to Homestead, since we're here in Florida, check it out. It's really amazing. Didn't, did you see that the Georgia Guidestones would happen to those things? I was shocked. I absolutely shocked that somebody destroyed that. And, you know, the Georgia Guidestones, I don't know if you ever follow the gentleman who put those up. Supposedly, he went to a banker and had this banker, he said, hey, I got all this money, I want to set this aside. And what they did was they put, I believe it was in seven different languages on the guide.

of all the things that needed to happen in order to keep the earth running efficiently. There's just too many people on the planet right now, which I tend to believe if you look at, you know, especially with the way processed food is today. It's funny, just a real quick note on that, I was over a friend of mine's, and we were going to eat some plant-based food. And it was in a real nice restaurant, and I have to know the owner of the restaurant. So we sat down and started eating some plant-based food. And actually, man, it was actually really, really good.

I said, damn, do, this burger is really, really good. Around here? Huh? Yeah, it's here in central Florida. I don't want to, because the report's not going to be good when I'm about to say. So I don't want to torpedo him because he had me off to the side. But I said, hey, man, this is really good. Now, again, it's plant-based.

And he looked at me and said, hey, don't eat this all the time. It's not good for you. And I was like, what? So, anyway, kind of off track. Why wasn't it good for you? Well, the first thing I asked him, I said, so you're, and that's all he served. It was all straight up vegan-type food, food. And so I was curious.

I said, so how do they grow this stuff? I mean, what's it coming from? And that's when he said, he turned to me and goes, hey, it's done through a process in the plant. So it's not good for you. Don't eat it all the time. And I'm like, that's not kind of the message I'm getting. I'm getting that, hey, we should all be eating more plant-based food this way. But obviously, coming from him as the owner, the restaurant, which was odd.

Because he turned to me and said to me, hey, don't eat this all the time. Well, it depends. I mean, some of the stuff is like filled with packed with soy and shit like that. that can really fuck up. Again, yeah, if it's based on chemicals, you know,

you're just scratching your head anyway. Yeah. And a lot of it's processed. A lot of the stuff, that stuff is processed as well. And that's what the concern was with him. This is all processed food, you know,

across the board. I processed food, no matter what it is, even if it's fucking, no matter if it's fake meat, if it's factory farmed meat, it, don't matter what it is,

a processing part of it's terrible for you. Horrible. A friend of mine, my friend Mikey, who's been a vegetarian in his whole life, I just fed him a steak for the first time I think I might have been the first time in his life the other night

he's like dude I want to try a steak he's been watching too many podcasts and we're he's like now he wants to go to Bascom's to get like a real Kobe beef steak so now he's like all into fucking trying new fancy steaks and stuff like that

but yeah it's interesting there's so much you get so much more from like natural foods, whether it be plant-based or not, whether it be animal-based or plant-based, whether you're eating a fucking steak or a fucking salad. I mean, you don't want shit that's processed. Not at all. It's funny, this is going back probably 70, maybe 10 years ago. And some of my conspiracy friends, they worked on real high-end cars and fixing damage parts, broken windshields for Ferraris and Maseratis and whatnot. And we were around having this talk

one day. They were getting ready to go to, I think it was Mexico. and watch the butterflies. These are the monarch butterflies. Fly in, and they come in by the millions every year. And they said, hey, we want to go there and watch them fly in. When they got there, there was like one tree that had the monarch on there. And they were kind of all scratching their head trying to figure out, hey, what the hell happened? So while they were staying there having a conversation, a park ranger happened to drive up.

And they said to the ranger, hey, we're kind of curious. says, where are all the monarchs this year? And the guy said, well, I think with all this new foods that they're making now, they're growing, what are they called the OMGs? OM. Oh, the stuff that they're putting in foods. Just the process side of it. And he said, so what's happening is the grain is designed to keep bugs off of it.

He goes, so what's happening is the butterflies are stopping on their. trip here to eat that and it's killing them. Just about two days ago, now this is seven or eight years ago. Two days ago I heard that the monarch butterflies were in jeopardy of being, going extinct. Really? Which was kind of interesting. You just kind of added to that story that I heard from seven or eight years ago. Yeah.

Again, pointing to the food, if you think about like Crohn's disease, when I first got out of the military, my secretary, her son had Crohn's disease. But nobody knew what it was. They knew that it had something to do with food in your digestive track. In her case, she said that what happens with Crohn's is it actually. affects the intestines and perforates it and makes holes in it and it starts leaking in your body. So obviously to have that leak in your body is not a good thing. So, but they didn't understand why.

Today, instead of correcting the food and saying, hey, listen, let's figure out what food is not good for you. They're giving you all these meds. You're just piling the meds on you. So now they've got doctors, that's all they do is Crohn's disease and lower bowel and all these things. When I think if we just go back and look at the food, that's going to be the real, you know, the problem with everything's going on. Again, too many people on the planet go back and look at the history of mankind, and there's more people on the planet right now than ever in the history of man, which kind of goes full circle.

Now, I believe that, and this is going to kind of get off track here a little bit, but I believe that when you look at the overall timing of man, and let's just say the planet Earth is a living entity, and the one primary plant on the planet is the tree, when you look at what makes trees grow carbon dioxide. It's funny, we have created more carbon dioxide as humans now on the planet than any other race of species of animals on the planet. And I think that when the trees need this to survive, that's why we've been able to live this long. We're like a bacteria on the planet.

We tend to live near the water and wherever it's convenient for us to live. And I think that there's something tied in with the trees. If the planet is a living entity and the trees are its lungs, then obviously you know, you want to stop everything you can of the deforestation that's going on, let's say like in Brazil or through South America, even here in this country now, you can only deforest areas a certain amount and then they stop you from, you know, cutting in that area. You have to replant trees.

Yeah. So the process, there's something that's involved with that. Again, keeping the earth healthy. And so is this, you know, the other beings that are coming here, are they trying to, to assist with that process. Again, they realize, like orbs, I think, um, orbs are generated by the planet.

I think they're here. I think they've always been here. Um, my experience with these orbs is kind of weird because even living here in, Indian Rocks Beach, Florida, um, if you go back and look at when the indigenous people lived here, there was something going on.

They were recording times that were happening here. And I went out one night was probably two o'clock in the morning. It was a real cool evening. And I saw this orb up on the sky. But it was like it was playing on the wind. It was a breezy night. Very cool night. You can see every star out.

It was available. And I initially went in the house and grabbed my phone to come out because I want to record this. So the problem with recording this aerial, whatever it was, this orb, and I kind of did it as an example. I took my phone and put it on a star that was stationary. And if I moved my phone and I would have told you that that's an orb and it's moving, it looked like an actual orb because of the, you understand what I'm saying? So you can move your phone. Yeah, and make it look like it was really. So my problem was how could I film this thing as it moved through the sky without looking like I'm chasing a star?

And so I knew that what I had to do was I had to set the camera up so this thing would fly through the frame. Right. Or have something in the foreground for a perspective. Bingo. And so it kept coming down kind of close to my neighbor's roof. So I actually set the camera up and started videotaping. And sure enough, this thing threw right through it right through the screen. So I knew that what I was looking at

But it seemed like it was having fun Like it was playing on the wind And this went on for 30 or 40 minutes Could have been a drone This was actually before drones Not that you listen you can hear a drone When we had experiences with your drone We had listen we had a fun experience with my drone

Dude We went to a shooting range And where was that? This was over in Lithia In Lithia Here in Florida Yeah like in the very very wooded area Of Florida

Heavily wooded area Not much going on there None In the middle of the wilderness By a huge body of water though. There was a huge body of water behind the shooting range. Which seems to be a constant theme with these things. And as we watched it that day, now,

what the funny part was, we were shooting, this was all video based on learning to shoot guns and sort of some high activity with guns and pistols and other events taking place out there. Because it was a range. And initially when I found this thing, I saw it with my peripheral vision. I was like, what was that? So I

went back and kind of looked at it. That's when I contacted you and told you what frames I thought it was in. And you went back and kind of looked at it. And I think the first thing you said to me is, hey man, who's shooting at my drone? Dude, it was crazy. It looks like a golf ball. And they're shooting right towards my drone. Just like that, dude.

I mean, and you figure this, when you initially got this thing and it was above, I think you were about a mile above us, I could hear it, but you couldn't see it. You couldn't see it at all. The drone? Yeah, you're drawing. Yeah, yeah. I can hear it. It's loud, yeah.

But I couldn't see it. So wherever that, that, that, I don't know, cottonball came from or that orb was, I want to say almost two miles away. looking at the video. And when it came up, it was attracted by the sound of your... I thought it was someone shooting at it at first. That's what you said. And I kind of chuckled over that. I said, dude, I couldn't even see it a mile up. That's two miles away. There's no way these guys could have seen that. Now, and would you be able to see, if somebody shot at a drone that was that high in the air, would you be able to see the bullet? No, no way. That thing, that camera on that drone shoots 24 frames per second. So if you were to divide one second and 24, would you even be, I don't know if you'd be able to see a bullet.

Well, no, no, you wouldn't be able to. That or they would already found it who killed Kennedy. Right. You'll see that thing in the air. So even with this event, I kind of scratched my head and you go like, what is this really all about? Now, I do believe, and I think I told you this the other day, I looked at a partial video and thought I saw another one of those in there. I'd like to get that video back and go through that with a fine-tooth comb. Yeah, it's on one of my hard drives back there.

Because I believe there's more of those orbs on there. what they are and watching other shows there's another show and I have actually video on my phone where guys sees this out in Arizona same exactly you showed me that yeah dude same exact thing to be used on YouTube yep and what they did was they did the math on this thing and this thing is moving at 3,500 miles an hour

see if you can find something Jordan if you go on YouTube and you search for something like a small white ball shooting towards drone I don't know if you can find it But there's a number of events that you're actually, well, let's take this opportunity to pause because I've got to piss like a racehorse.

Oh, yeah, do that. Let's do that. Okay, cool. Coffee's going right through me. All right, boom. Where were we? What were we talking about? We were just talking about the orbs in that day that we were out there shooting. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, again, not thinking we're looking for anything paranormal, anything unusual. We're just out shooting video of some guys shooting some guns at a range out of the middle of nowhere. And during the process of this thing, I kind of noticed something. and that's when I sent it to you, like, hey, what is this?

And I could pick it up. I didn't have the, obviously, the equipment that you have that can really look at this thing. And when you pulled it up, I think one of the first things you said to me was, hey, who's shooting at my drone? Right. And I said, dude, you can't even see your drone up that far. That's something, I don't know what that is. So then it came out on a couple of other shows, which as soon as I saw it, I recognized it for what it was. So you saw the exact same thing on TV later, like a couple years later?

Correct. It was definitely a couple of years later. and it was the same exact thing taken by a drone. Now I think there's two or three actually of these drones that have actually taken pictures of whatever. These, I call them dirty cotton balls, but whether they're orbs. Is there any sort of logical explanation of what it could be?

Well, I mean, again, when I start thinking about this and I watch these orbs, you know, and again, on the beach one day, down here in St. Pete, we had some orange orbs come down the waterline, and we watched these things until they disappeared into the clouds. You know, there was some talk, hey, are these those Japanese lanterns? Lanterns. The problem was that we had an onshore breeze, and it's a heavy breeze in the evening hours along the waterline. And this was running parallel to the shoreline, probably 20 or 30 feet over the top.

And I don't, I kind of view these orbs, especially after that night I saw that one in the sky, that they're actually here on the planet. I don't know whether they're taking care of the planet. I don't know whether they're in charge of, you know, maintaining. some sort of social order on the planet, but I do believe they're here for that reason. And I think that they kind of monitor the health of the trees across the board. Now, with that said, there's obviously so many other things that are going on. But I think at the end of the day, if we find out that the planet Earth is really a live entity or being, that would change our religion, that would change what we thought about who's coming here.

If you look at where gold comes from, gold does not happen on the planet Earth. it comes from space. So when you start to take into consideration where gold comes from, because I thought it was processed like a diamond. You know, it's here. It's under tremendous pressure from the earth. Is it really come from space? It really comes from.

That's scientifically fact. Absolutely. There's no place that they know where it comes from or how it's produced on Earth. So when you look for them... Can you find that? Yeah, when you find... When you look around and you, like, some of these shows I watch where they're mining gold in Alaska in the process of running this material through a...

process of where they cleanse it with the water and it filters off all of the light stuff and then the heavy materials left from the bottom they were talking because my question was well why don't they ever find like a you know a stone-sized piece of gold it's you know a four-pound rock of gold it just doesn't come like that comes from space um it it is in my new you know material-wise as far as when you actually start mining it it's such a uh a process of usually gold create usually gold is created from platinum, which has one less proton than gold, or from mercury, which has one more proton than gold. Bombarding a platinum or mercury nucleus with neurons can knock off a neutron or add a neutron, which through natural radioactive decay can lead to gold. But where does it come from? how gold is formed on earth. Gold minerals form in hot rocks in and around volcanoes. So they form inside of rocks around volcanoes. Interesting.

That's the first time I heard that. So that's interesting. But I think, again, when you take into consideration, all right, let's just go with that. Let's just say that they're coming from volcanoes. There are no volcanoes in South America. There are no volcanoes in Alaska. Oh, I take that back.

There are volcanoes in South America and Central America? Is there? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Okay, that was new to me. I know there's definitely, there's definitely a volcanoes in Alaska. But, you know, listen, I know that the Mayan Indians had a shitload of gold. Unlike other metals that form the Earth's crust, gold comes from, now this one says gold comes from space.

Stars are made mostly of helium and hydrogen, which provide light. Inside the star's core, nuclear fusion churns out energy, as all the star, as the star's life come to an end, a massive stellar explosion occurs known as a supernova. So I guess it's found in both places. It's found in the universe and on Earth. So like I say, when you again start to take into consideration, how much of it do you need?

I mean, when I started to go back and look at from South America, where all the gold came from, where's all the gold today? If they're headed back then, the Spanish wanted it. So they're the ones that came in, the conquistadors came in, and wiped out most of the Mayans for that purpose alone because they wanted the gold. So, and again, when you go back to the Ananaki,

the Ananaki would eat the gold because they said their body's like a semiconductor and it actually improves electrical functions throughout your body, which if you think about it, I mean, it sounds like it could be true. But does anyone test it in sense? I don't know anybody who wants to eat their gold

because they just paid a shit ton of money for it. So last thing you want to start doing it is grinding it up and eating it. Oh, my God, that's true. I mean, again. Yeah, but you could eat it and then just, like shit into a bucket for a week. There you go. I don't lose it. I don't want to do mine that way. But you have to. They talk about like eating it in

powdered form too. Bingo. And that was really what it was all about eating in a powdered form. And I guess that's where the real benefit came for the Ananaki, if that's truly what they did, was eat the gold. So what is this video right here? This is a, okay, so this is a guy who had the same exact experience we had with the white bingo. This is several years later. And I just happened to be watching one of these shows. And this was the guy that

popped up and was showing what he had seen through his drone. Show this two to tell me what it is because I can't tell what it is. Whatever this was, was traveling at a very high velocity. So much so that in order to watch this video and appreciate it, you have to slow it down so that frame by frame you can see, all right, it's not a bird. It's not a plane. I can't identify whether it seems like a ball of light.

It appears to me like somebody's trying to shoot down this drone. So there's, I mean, the same thing came up when he thought that somebody was trying to shoot it down. But again, you know, when you start doing the mathematics on this thing, it's moving too slow for a bullet to be a bullet. Bingo, 3,500 miles an hour. So this thing is, whatever it is, again, even so you can pick it up on camera. 3500 miles an hour, how fast a bullet travels is they were saying? No, no, no, this is what they were saying this thing. You're right here's traveling at, 3,500 miles an hour. So they were showing the speed versus the time versus where it was that. And, well, do you think about the one we saw in that video? I couldn't see it when it was just, when you played it naturally, you could not see it. Right, but if you go frame by, You can clearly see it. If it was going 3,500 miles an hour, would you even be able to see it in one 24th of a second? There's a big question. I mean, that can't be that hard of a math problem for someone smart. Well, like I said, we probably need to ask a few more questions on it. But again, the process of us seeing that was, again, just merely a lucky moment when I saw it with my proof of revision. What the hell was that? Wasn't looking for anything that was paranormal at all. So that's what kind of added to the whole thing when I started to see that. And like I say, I need to actually run back through that again because I believe there are other. events like that within the video that we just didn't we weren't paying attention to because we

weren't looking for that yeah i mean you can't see it you can only see it when it gets in the close proximity of it like you can't tell where it's coming from bingo but so so there's nobody who's obviously there hasn't been enough cases of this for someone to actually take a real look at it and try to figure out where it actually could have came from like what's the realistic description no the one where i got the how fast was moving was a guys out in the desert and there's another group of guys were doing the same thing they were in arizona they were videotaping a desert and this this thing whatever it was, came up out of the mountains, and it was going one direction and changed directions

and actually went right by their drone. So that's when they did the mathematics and came up with it was at 3,500 miles an hour. But you could... Change direction. Oh, change direction. It was like I could hear it. Even I think with the day that we were out there shooting yours,

that that thing kind of made a turn because it could hear it. And I don't know whether it was more interested in what it was, but to be able to, you know, visually see that thing and not have really an explanation as to what it is or was. You know, again, just adds to the whole paranormal. Is it, is it earth related? Is this an extraterrestrial event? I mean, what is it?

It's real. There's two or three videos now that have this on there. We could never see these before guys started putting drones up. I've never seen these talked about before. You know, you hear about orbs and things that go on, especially, you know, like these ring doorbells, and you can see some of the orbs that are on the ring doorbells, and you try to figure out what you're looking at.

But these events here during the day that are taking place and that you're, you know, you pick them up accidentally, like we did, to me, just adds more to the question of, hey, what the hell are we really looking at here? What's really going on on on the planet at the end of the day? Because obviously, these events are real. Yeah, there's something going on. There's definitely something weird. But, I mean, I don't know. It could be some, it could be some, a natural thing. I mean, listen, obviously it could be anything at that point, for sure. I mean, it's not impossible for it to be like some sort of natural phenomena. some sort of like light phenomena.

I still understand why we wouldn't see it more. Okay, look at this. So when bullets fly through the air, they do so at amazing speeds. The fastest bullet travels more than 2600 feet per second, the equivalent to over 1,800 miles per hour. To put that in perspective, it's amazing to realize that bullets travel over twice the speed of sound.

So there's no way that you could get even, one frame. Like there's no one, you can't see a bullet traveling unless you shoot it with a high, high speed camera that shoots like thousands of frames per second. Bingo. Bingo. So the drone would not have captured anything like that. No. It's traveling way slower. And again, like I say, when you, when you do the math, on the first ones that when the guys talk about, again, 3500 miles an hour, that was those guys, that one that we're looking at, maybe even traveling faster than that because we couldn't see it. I don't know what, you know, how we just got lucky and picked up on that thing. Again, that's why I say I like to go back through that again and

just kind of thumb through that video and see if there's anything else on there that we've missed. Because it's obviously relevant to what's going on. I mean, when you're taking the consideration, dude, there's no way you can have 20 different shows on from UFOs to unexplained information, the Alaskan Triangle, you've got American Mysteries, Expedition Bigfoot, Legend of Bigfoot, Black Files classified. They all bring something to the UFO to the forefront. Are there any volcanoes in South America or Central America? Can you find that?

Yeah, ask that question. Because I know there's a lot of gold mines in that area. Like there's a lot of gold mines. And I don't think of that area as being a gold-producing country, you know, across the board. Yet, listen, if you go back and look at the history, there's a lot of gold there. You know, Mexico, there's a lot of lithium mines in Mexico. Interesting. That, I just had a guy on here, Luis Shapiro, who reports the, what is that called?

the Maipo volcano Spanish volcano mypo volcanic peak in the central in the central Andes Mountains South America okay Chile Argentina yeah So you went like

Oh shit More than 3,000 volcanoes in Latin America And South America Wow Okay I had no idea 14 of these volcanoes are active Fucking shitload of volcanoes down there So that's crazy I didn't I just learned something new

Didn't have no idea that those were down there and that kind of number. But again, so is it the volcanoes that make the gold, or is it coming from space? It's both, apparently, according to the Internet. Yeah. But yeah, no, there's a ton of lithium mines in Mexico. And lithium mines being bought by China.

Interesting. China's doing a lot of business in Mexico. Dude, let me tell you something. It's interesting you just said that. One of the things that I had heard initially about Iraq and Afghanistan was that they have a huge deposit of lithium there. and this was going back probably a year ago, getting to a buddy man who's kind of a conspiracy guy.

He's in the military. And he said something interesting. We were talking about the lithium that was there. And he goes, oh, yeah, the powers to be that are running the world have told the U.S. to get out of Afghanistan because that lithium belongs to China, which was interesting when he said that. So I didn't, I was like, there's lithium in Afghanistan. he goes, dude, there is so much lithium in Afghanistan.

So what powers would tell anybody, hey, you guys are done, pack it up. He kept saying the World Bank, the World Bank. I don't know what that really means on the World Bank, but he said there was key individuals that were making decisions, and the U.S. was not to get near that lithium. That was going to be all go to China. Yeah. And we were told to get out of Afghanistan, which was interesting.

I don't know how true it is, but it's interesting. And then when you talk to others about the lithium, you start doing research on it. Well, sure enough, the lithium is there, for sure. No doubt about it. And China is going to lead the way with regard to the lithium because they're going to be with the Russians now, I guess. Well, they're doing a lot of business in Mexico. They're buying lithium mines and they're partnering with the cartels in Mexico. And the cartels are sort of like secure, being their security for these mines.

And the cartels are making a lot of money doing business with China. So in addition to that, the cartels are sending 100% of the fentanyl. to Mexico. Wow. And on top of that, so all of the fenton, think of all the drugs that the Mexican cartels, not just drugs, but everything from avocados to ammunition to drugs. Sure. All of the business that, anything that's illegal is automatically business for the car, is money for the cartels. Absolutely. So the cartels, they're getting not only their fentanyl from China, but China is sending the chemists directly to Mexico

and teaching them how to create, how to produce and how to manufacture the fentanyl. I'm sure that their labor charges for labor in Mexico are very, very cheap.

So I'm sure that's a great idea. Yeah. And well, the only country that is dealing with this fentanyl epidemic of tons of people dying from fentanyl

is America. They're not selling fentanyl to any other countries but the United States. And all the fentanyl is coming. from China. And see, I mean, look what the damage it does. I mean, now, of course, I look at this a couple different ways. We all know how bad fentanyl is. I mean, I haven't read one

good article says, hey, if you do fentanyl, dude, you're going to, you're going to Mexico tomorrow for a vacation and a great time. It's always leads right to death. When we started talking about fentanyl here in Florida, you see the video the cops, the guy touches the fentanyl. Absolutely. I automatically fucking passes out. Almost dies. Almost dies because of it. And when you look at what fentanyl does, which is unusual, fentanyl has the ability to penetrate the brain stem. And what it does is it confuses your body on how much oxygen is actually in your lungs. So it can't tell whether you've got too much or not enough. So what it does is it makes you stop breathing.

So we all seem to know that. Why would you want to take fentanyl? So somebody said, well, they're putting fentanyl in cannabis. I said, wait a minute. So they're going to buy fentanyl to putting cannabis on that, yeah. To sell you cannabis is laced with fentanyl? I said, that doesn't make any sense because you're not going to make. your money off the fentanyl, you're going to kill people, first of all, then they're going to

come back and buy your cannabis anymore. Exactly. So it's odd to me that that would even be a thing. But yet in Florida, in Manatee County, this is going back a couple of years ago, they had to open up a second morgue because there was so many people dying from it. And it makes you scratch your head. I mean, I don't know anybody goes, hey, yeah, I've been a, you know, fentanyl user for five years now, and I'm more successful now in my life and my family and everything I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? Nobody says that. Right. So when you, you figure that you buy the fentanyl and you're to gas station, you've got your kids in the car, and you can't wait to get home to do whatever it is you're going to do, and then you end up overdosing there in the parking lot.

Obviously, law enforcement carries a lot of the product that will wake you up. What's it called? I can't think of the name of it now yet, but all of the sheriff's office carry it, all of the fire departments carry it here, the EMTs carry it so that if you have an overdose, they can hit you with this and this will revive you and save your life. Like an epinephrine thing? Yeah, it's just like that. What's that?

Narcan. Narcan. Narcan. Narcan. Yeah, there you go. And, of course, everybody carries that here in the state of Florida with them for the event that you end up overdosing on this stuff. Is that the thing that you jam into your heart? Nope. This is actually something they can breathe it in through their nostrils.

Oh, okay. Now, they do have an injectable as well, because obviously if you're unresponsive and you're passed out, they can, they just come injectables. They can't hit you with a needle on it as well. Yeah, no, so the fentanyl has become a replacement for hair. heroin. They're using it. It's a more, it's a more economic substitute for heroin. So they're cutting these pills, these different opioids and things like that with and pure heroin with this fentanyl. And that's how, you know, a lot of people are overdosing. I mean, there's reports of it being like, you know, being in cocaine or being in weed, which is kind of, you know, those reports

are very weird. I feel like those are mostly like low level drug dealers that. Right. that are selling the low-level drug dealers, the street drug dealers are the guys that are selling heroin and cocaine and weed. The high-level guys are only, they're not selling heroin. The people that are buying heroin are more like street people. In Florida now, if you sell somebody a drug like fentanyl and it kills them

and they can trace it back to you, they're going to charge you with murder. So that's going to change a lot of the attitudes here in Florida. I think there's already been five or six people who've been arrested for that. They'll be made examples of, and I think other people who are dealing in drugs we'll start to take notice of that as well and I think that's what we'll make the fentanyl thing go away

completely. Well, what will make the cartels? I mean, the problem is the cartels fucking trafficking all this stuff into the United States. There's so much money in it. Oh, sure. And with the borders, they're, you know, the cartel, they make $8,000 per person that they fucking can smuggle it.

Human trafficking. Coyotes can bring across the borders? Yep. They bring people in the United States. Eight grand a pop for that. Showing you how bad people want to get into this kind of. country. And they asked El Chapo, Al Chapo said in an interview, I don't know who it was with, maybe it was with this attorney, but they asked him like what he thought, what is the way, what is the best easiest way to get rid of the cartel problem? He said it's easy. It's government, it's governmental policy, legalizing certain things. Absolutely. We'll run them right out of business that way. Right. Listen, I think at the end of the day, listen, legalized drugs across the board. Is it a smart idea? I'm not really sure, but we all know that fentanyl is not. not good. We know that heroin's not good.

We know that, right. We know that. Smart people know that. Yet, everyone tends to not pay attention to that and we continue to thin the herd. It being illegal, obviously, isn't stopping anything. No, no. So why not just make it legal? At least now you can put it into a perspective of you can manage these people so that they don't do overdoses, they don't kill themselves. They're kind of doing this in New York right now with methanol, or not methanol, with heroin and allowing them to use a drug that's similar to heroin called...

Yeah, I've heard of this in Europe too. Yeah, anyway, they were allowed to use this and to help them wean off the actual drug itself. But it's not working because people are just getting hooked on this new drug. And it's not nearly, I guess, as bad for you at the end of the day. I guess it can't stop your heart, you know, stop you from breathing. But at the end of the day, it's still, listen, I'm not reading any good stories. He's like, oh, yeah, this guy just got his degree. He's a PhD now, and he's also hooked on fentanyl.

Right. So I think if you, hey, listen, we legalize it. And, of course, I hate to sound so brutal about it, but if we thin the herd, those individuals will no longer be on the planet. We don't have to worry about that. I know some people want to, you know, embrace everybody and help everybody. And listen, at the end of the day, I understand. But listen, it just doesn't work that way, unfortunately. Well, the thing with overpopulation is Elon Musk says the opposite.

He says over the next few decades, he goes, the population is going to start thinning out. And that's why he's trying to have so many kids. He's fucking, that guy's impregnating everybody. He's got like 10 kids right now. Which is crazy. And he's doing like in vitro fertilization where he's. Is that I was doing it? I wasn't sure.

I saw some conversations about this because of all. He's trying to spread his seed as far and wide as he possibly can. He's trying to have more and more babies. So is that a bad thing? I don't think so, no. Especially the females are on board with it. If they're no, you know what I'm saying? There can't be, I'm sure there's something set up for them as well with him being, having all this money.

He truly believes that there's going to be an issue. He thinks that, he thinks that fertility rate or, I think that's what it is. If you can look it up, I'm sure there's plenty of articles on it, but he believes that over time, basically, based on math on where we've been 10 years ago to where we're going to be 10 years from now, that the population, the birth rate is going down dramatically. Sure. Sure. Well, you know, listen, go back to kind of the conspiracy thing. When you hear about some of these, some of the shots that they wanted to give females as young girls, and I was not for this. Obviously, I have a daughter, and we talk to the doctor long details. And I said, so my concerns are that the shot is doing more than just controlling a cancer that they could get in their cervix, that they could. Population growth, population growth has declined mainly due to the abrupt decline in the global total fertility rates, right, from five. 5.0 in 1960 to 2.3 in 2020. Wow. So less than half. Is that crazy? And again, it's working. Whatever is going on is working. Because like I say, I think that you look more and more into. But what's the point? Why? I just think there's too many people on the planet. I don't think we can. Yeah, but the fertility rates been cut in half. It's clearly there's population decline is going to happen. Sure. And I guess the question is, how is that happening? I mean, what's different now and to the point where this population decline is going to happen? And, and to the point where this population decline is going to happen. population started to turn and go the other way, started to decrease.

It's so weird, man, with the vaccine shit and the shots and all that stuff, it's become like a fucking religion for people. Oh, yeah. It's a fucking religion. Either you're for it or you're against it. And what did I send you that email? Yeah. That I got. Now, I received that on February. Actually, I think it was the 12th, but it was the 17th of 2020 from my buddy of mine at the Pentagon who sent that to me and he does half of his face on there and he kind of types out this, you know, this critical letter about what's going on with the Chinese and Wuhan Labs and this new disease called the

coronavirus. And initially when I saw that, I didn't give any, I'm like, okay, whatever, dude. I'm at work. I'm doing my stuff. So I'm asking him, what's what the cryptic face half of there? He goes, well, I'm trying to make you understand this is really important. I'm like, to who? Now, in the line of work I was in, dealing with masks, obviously different types of chemicals that these masks will prevent you from, inhaling in gas from inhaling in different particle substances, radioactive material.

So I'm fully licensed and prepping up guys, special operations guys, to wear gas masks. So in order to have that happened, you've got to have a really good, you can't have a beard. You know, the particles will get around their mask. And people like, well, what's the big on deal? I said, well, listen, if I put gas into a particular room that we're going to go and insult because we're going in to get a bad guy, the last thing I want to do is have my mask leak when I get inside there because now it's going to affect me the same way it's affecting him. So you can't just put a mask on and hope that that's going to keep the virus either away from you or to yourself.

It just doesn't work that way. Most people don't want to know that. They just go off of what the government tells them. And they go, hey, listen, you know, my question to them is, well, when does the government ever really told you the truth about anything across the board, especially in today's atmosphere? So it's trying to understand why they would go down that road, why they do what they do. you know, look at everything across the board that's going on right now. And it's just, it's chaos. It's absolute chaos across the planet, you know, from different countries with the whole COVID thing.

Now they're trying to do additional lockdowns now. Fauci's coming back out again now and saying, hey, it's time to do more lockdowns. You know, listen, I'm over it. I'm running my life, you know, typically normally. And if I get it, I get it. Yeah, people treat, I mean, it's just like if you pay too much attention to it, you're just going to drive yourself fucking crazy. And then there's people, there's just, there's,

there's some people that it's, I don't know what it is. It's like focusing on or paying so much attention to the Fauci to fucking Republican Democrat. It becomes their fucking identity. Absolutely. Just focusing on this bullshit. It's not relevant to anything. There's more to life than fucking politics and corrupt and corrupt fucking people in government. Like there's more to life than that.

Like it's just fucking crazy. And that's, I don't know. some people have just lost their way or they don't they have they're they're fucking lonely or they they're alone and they're so unfuckable they there's nothing going on in their life believe such a funny thing man when you look at belief across the board and I think when you look at especially like religion and you believe in a certain concept of religion I have the conversations completely I said you know listen people get upset with me because I said God's not doing really a good job right now if he just come down here and straighten this mess out we'd be good um I said you know the

The funny thing is like the Japanese people don't know who Jesus is. When they see his name, they're like, who's Jesus? Jesus, he was, you know, the son of God. Oh, no, that's not right. So I said, do the indigenous people here, the American Indian, which are not really Indians, but the indigenous Americans here, they all were part of that whole program, trying to understand, you know, what life is all about, where they come from,

and their approach on every other thing revolves around that. So when you see these stories come out about, different groups or ideologies. I mean, there's a Baptist group that believe that, you know, if you hold a rattlesnake above your head and you shake him and he doesn't bite you, it's because it's the will of God. But if he does bite you, it's because you've done things wrong. And I'm like, so how many people are really getting bit by those snakes at the end of the day

when you're shaking them around like that? And I think that as we continue to educate ourselves about, listen, when you look at that the stones up there in Georgia. Yeah. When you look at... What actually happened to those? Someone, like, drove their car into them or something? No, they actually dynamite.

And they blew them up. Dynamite? They used dynamite on them. Jesus. So, and again, now that was generated by a gentleman who did not want to be identified. He went through a banker. The banker is still alive. The gentleman who did this has passed away, I think, 10 or 12 years ago.

But the stones pointed out, basically the population was just too many people on the planet. 500 million was the maximum number that the planet could sustain and do it well. So in seven different languages, it outlines what we need to do in order to get back on track to be able to survive. So why someone is that? willing to destroy that is kind of odd. They just didn't believe in it. They went going against their ideology. Yeah, but again, think of all, it's one thing to go, okay, I don't believe in this.

Terrorist. Yeah, it's another thing to blow it up. And I'm like, wow. So it meant even the guy that initially knew who this individual was, the banker, even today, he still won't tell what his name was. Really? And he goes, and when they ask him why, they said, it takes away from, he's afraid that they'll take away from what the message of the stones really is, if they find out who he is. So I don't know if that means he was a somebody or just a nobody and why would a nobody know this?

But it's interesting across the board because I tend to believe, again, watching where we are today with food across the board. We're obviously trying to grow more and more and more. The farmers are having a problem with the land because they're over farming the land and then the dirt takes abuse because they're just not enough nutrition of the dirt to make really whole foods. So they can't rotate the crops the way they once did. So, you know, again, we go back to this genetically modified food that I don't think does any of us any good. I was talking to Lexi about this there today. I was asking, I'm like, you know, right now, what is like the average, what is the average lifespan of somebody over the last 20 years? The average lifespan is what, like 80s, 90s?

I want to say like 82, 83. And I was wondering, I'm like, what do you think the average lifespan is going to be of somebody who's in their 20s and 30s today? I was like, I think just, you know, due to technology, due to all the, you know, crazy, you know, DNA hacking or neuralink technology that's going to come out. And just advancement in science and medicine that I bet we'll probably live to about 150 years. 150 years old. There's really no reason we can't. And, you know, and then she was like, yeah, but food is becoming more and more processed and convenient. and nutrition is lacking more and more, you know,

than it was back in the past. Like, it just seems like there's more processed foods and sugars and shit like that than ever. Look at the 60s, there were no fat people in the 60s. Right. You had people that were overweight, but there was no fat people. You know, when you go back and look today and look at the obesity, which is really brought on by sugar. You know, sugar is, I had my brother-in-law about 10 years ago tell me,

oh, sugar's the worst thing you can put in your body on. I'm like, Joe, relax. It's sugar. I mean, come on. And after talking to several nurses, she said if you took a blood test right after you ate a bunch of sugar you flip out of what your blood was doing um she then you know alluded to how bad it was for you across the board um i never really thought about it but i've kind of gotten away from more of this sugar heavy sweet stuff i don't drink coax at all i haven't had a coke or a mountain dew in 20 years wow i refuse to drink them they're just nothing

but laced with sugar you know alcohol has sugar in it it is sugar um you get a disease from being an alcoholic your arms get real thin you get a bloated stomach and your legs get real thin um again brought on by sugar Is this a process to thin the hurt out? I mean, you know, we get rid of all the drinkers. Where's just money? Is it just fucking easy money? Because the problem is really only in the U.S., right? Like, there's no other countries that have this epidemic of malnutrition and bullshit food and obesity.

Obesity is like 70% of the population. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's insane. Is there any other countries like that? Listen, not that run on the obesity. Even that, you know, it's funny when you brought that up, I talked to one of my buddies from Homeland Security here because they were having a problem with the power grid. going down. And they believe that there were other entities out there that were drag to drag

to the power grid down. Not to mention that they were, this was in California, they were driving through and shooting transformers with a 22 rifle. Right. So the transformers are only made in three different countries, the U.S. being one of them. And they're a real hard item to get because there's just not a super demand for them across the board. You're not, they're not supposed to leak out oil and catch on fire. And they were trying to figure out who was doing this and why they were doing this and looking at people that were trying to control certain parts of the power grid. Well, I said, well, dude, why would that matter? He said, well, let me tell you this, man.

Right now in this country, there are 100 million diabetics. There's another 80 million that are pre-diabetic. He goes, insulin must be kept refrigerated. If you lose power for 90 days, the bodies will stack up at the hospitals like you will not believe. And he goes, that shuts down everything because the hospitals will shut down. truckers will be afraid to go anywhere, and all just through something as simple as insulin. So I look, you know, you go back again and you say, well, hold on this whole sugar thing.

Is it part of the bigger plan to get rid of those people where sugar is the enemy? Again, thinning the herd, so we're doing it there. We're doing it genetically through vaccines that you think you're getting. And slowly by surely, they chip away at our ability to have reproduction. You know, if you look at, again, what's happened to the population, I think it's all related at the end of the day. There's just too many people on the planet. We can't sustain it. If you look at, you know, your countries like India,

the amount of garbage that they're throwing back into the ocean is just unbelievable. And you don't really think about that in the bigger picture until you start looking at videos. And they show the specific ocean with one area where all of this plastic tends to get dragged into. And then you see the wild light that eats it. Turtles, eat the plastic bags because they think it's jellyfish. And then what happens? They end up starving today.

because they've got so much product in their stomach that it's full, but they can't eat anything. So they end up dying. So now we're, you know, now we start talking about extinction of certain animals on a much bigger plane than we were talking about. But is it, is it, you know, go back to, look at the black plague. There's people today that say the black plague was not spread by rats and fleas, that there was something bigger and they believe it was extraterrestrial. Really?

As they go through, they said, and they show these like reapers in the skies walking through the sky. And he goes, this is what they mean to show that something's delivering this, this virus. So if you go back and court to start looking at the history of man, it seems to be whenever they want to thin the herd out, these viruses are made, hence coronavirus, I think started out of SARS originally, and, you know, turned into this disease now that kills only people who seem to have relevant conditions. So my sister's husband died because of it. Now he was 350 pounds, had all kinds of health issues, went into the hospital with, had the D-variant, which they said the D-variant doesn't give you a fever. And one of the doctors I spoke to said,

well, if the D-variant's not giving you a fever, you have no way to fight the bug. So at the end of the day, when I asked my sister, what killed him? What's on his death certificate? What was on his death certificate was he died of pneumonia, bought on by complications of COVID. When did he die? About a year ago. Oh, wow. So, you know, again, it seems to be able to pick out people who are, pre-genetically disposed. Vulnerable? That are vulnerable? So again, are we thinning the herd for only the strongest shall survive at the end of the day? Because you know and I know people who've had Corona, look at Lexi, who just had really kind of a bad cold.

There were no ill effects. We didn't have to go to the hospital. We didn't talk about, you know, putting them on a ventilator. Right. Or me, I never fucking got COVID. And you were living there. I was around her the whole fucking time she had it waiting on her hand and a foot, like sleeping next to her. And never got it. Never got it. My sister, when she got it, or didn't get it, they were in a motorhome as her house was being built. So I had both my sisters living in a motorhome with her husband.

And they had both gotten sick. They had gotten a cold. And so he had gotten sick about two or three days later, went down. And I told him, I said, listen, don't let him shove anything up your nose. There's no reason to do that. Let him know. If you've got a cold, they'll tell you right up front. But don't let him put any, of course, what do they do?

The first thing I did was shove that stick up his nose. So then he ends up with a deviant, which again, doesn't allow your body to produce a fever. and that ended up with killing him long term. And I asked my sister, you need to go back to that hospital and figure out what they were treating him with. Well, they wouldn't release that information to her other than he died of pneumonia. I said, that's bullshit because he's your husband. You should be able to have, you know, access to those records of what killed your husband. She just decided to leave it alone.

She goes, you know, it was COVID. It is what it is. And I tend to disagree with that 100%. Yeah. Well, I mean, look at China. I mean, do we know how many people in China died of COVID? Like, I don't think there's many people in China that are even overweight or unhealthy. Listen, that's the key right there.

you just hit the nail on the head. They live a much cleaner lifestyle. I mean, even it's funny, talking to a buddy of mine, his parents or his wife's parents are Filipinos. So they moved down here with them. They all live together in a home down here. And all of a sudden, we were talking one day, and his father-in-law had a stroke, and his mother-in-law had a tumor.

And I'm like, dude, what is up with your wife's parents? And he goes, what do you mean? I said, they're always so sick. He said, oh, well, the challenge is this. He goes, you cannot have a diet consisting heavily of rice. it'll turn you into diabetic. And I was like, what? I had no clue.

And he goes, oh, yeah, they're both diabetics. Dude, these guys are both thin. They both, they're not overweight. And yet she just passed, her mother just passed away last year. Her dad's just had a stroke. Another one. All brought on by rice. And I thought initially, hey, fish and rice, what a great diet.

You know, you're going to maintain your weight. It's going to be, no, it's the worst thing in the world. Even, you know, like one other pointless, useless type of information is horses, that stay out in the field for 20 years and eat just nothing but grass, they will turn into diabetics because grass is the carbohydrate. Right. So it's the carbohydrates that end up being bad for us across the board. You know, when you look at, I would think that rice and fish would be a great diet, but,

yeah, this guy, Dom that I've had on here multiple times, he's a nutritional biologist, and his main focus of study, it began, it's mainly nutrition, but it began with the study of the ketogenic diet, which is basically extremely, extremely low. low-carb diet, high-fat. So it's like high-fat, meats. He did the study of the ketogenic diet on oxygen toxicity seizures. So Navy SEALs when they use those rebreathers. Right.

Those, those. Drager rebreathers, yep. Yeah, the rebreathers, they don't have the bubbles. Like a normal dive tank, you have the bubbles that come out and they let you know, you can see where people are. So the rebreathers let them be covert under the water. but if you do it for too long, they can get oxygen toxicity seizures. So the studies that he did was putting these Navy SEALs on strict ketogenic diets,

keeping them in ketosis, meaning that they're getting all of their energy, their body is getting all of their energy from ketones instead of glucose. So that comes from fat, so from burning fat instead of carbs. and what that did was that reduced the oxygen toxicity seizures. Really? Then they moved that into epilepsy. So now what they're doing is they're treating people with epilepsy who get epileptic, epileptic, easy for you to say, epileptic seizures. They're treating them with ketogenic diets and they're putting people on keto and it's completely curing them and completely like eliminating their seizures.

It's incredible how much benefit that has on the human body. And which is amazing because if you really think about it, most of those fats are coming from animal fats. When I started going back and looking, it was funny, I led, I had nothing but a keto diet growing up as a kid. That's all I ate. I ate primarily meat, potatoes, and that was it. I didn't eat anything else.

And I loved the fat, gristly part of the steak. So it was funny. As a kid growing up, guys would go, man, dude, you are ripped. You are just, there's not an ounce of fat on your body. And I never took into consideration other than I was a skinny guy. And then. Yeah, you were a fucking, you were a, machine when you were like younger.

You were, you have a picture of yourself when you were? Yeah. We got to be able to pull it up. Can you send it to me? I can put it on the screen? Yeah, I'll do that. All right.

So, and it was kind of funny, but because I never thought about my diet being that diet. And then obviously when I married a great woman who's an Italian, who she's a great cook, but she loves that pasta. And I learned real quick, that pasta is bad news, baby, for my girlish figure.

So I couldn't keep the weight off of me by eating all the carbohydrates. So obviously I needed a, change and started looking at some things differently and started looking at the keto diet again and understanding that your body would prefer to burn certain animal fats over sugar. But if you eat the sugar, it will take the sugar first before it uses the fat. So you're not getting a true a true nutritional value from having that. So I've gone more to the keto now, which you know, again, oh, you shouldn't be eating red meat and all this. I said, listen, I mean, if I eat too much of this, I'm going to die. If ate too much of that, I'm going to die. Listen, I'm going to

leave the planet a happy guy one way or the other, eating good red meat. Yeah, well, it's good for you. I mean, obviously, everything in moderation is good for you. But, you know, even people that are extremely overweight who have transitioned into a low-carb or keto diet, they really, they see their fat just melts off. It melts off. Oh, it does. When you're on an all-fat diet. And it's not, you know, they don't have to go to the gym. They don't have to do this, you know, these crazy workouts. Listen, all you need to do is pick up your activity. I think I showed you those pictures of the man's legs that was the 40-year-old runner, was a triathlete, and you looked it down on his legs, and they gave you a cut-adversion of what

the muscle looks like all around the bone of the leg. The one below that was a 76-year-old guy who wasn't doing anything. He was sedentary, just sitting there doing nothing. You saw the difference in the muscle growth, and then it showed the 70-year-old who was running triathlons looked the same as the 40-year-old guy. So it's amazing what diet will do for you, but you have first to understand what your body type is and what best works for you. And also weightlifting. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

I mean, you could see on that thing that you sent me the bone density, too. Was so much different. You know what I'm saying? Now you don't have to worry about a fall and break in your hip. Right. And so many people give in to this. I mean, now they're doing hormone therapy replacement, which I recommend anybody out there today. If you want to really feel good about yourself.

Like testosterone, like TRT? Bingo. What a game changer it is. And some guys are worried, well, you know, hey, listen, my testosterone levels will get back up. I don't want to have aroid rage. I'm like, listen, as a kid, your testosterone is around a level 900, maybe a thousand. As you get older, mine was down to 550, and the doctor said, hey, I can put you on hormone replacement.

Oh, my God. What a difference. Really? Now, it was only 200 milligrams, so I was still under the 900. I was at 750, 750 milligram. So I didn't have to worry about royd rage or being angry or, you know, as a kid when I had fooled around with these things, you had royd rage. I'd be at 900 and then take this on top of that.

Isn't that really bad? for you when you're a kid to take that stuff? I'm sure it is. I mean, I heard that when you're young and your body's naturally producing it, when you take exogenous testosterone, it inhibits your naturally producing ability. Which I believe that to be a true statement as well. I mean, you don't see many guys that are on steroids bodybuilding that are 15 or 16 years old. Typically told, hey, wait to your body fully matures and then get on those, those enhancing drugs. But listen, at the end of the day, steroids were not made for healthy people. You know what I'm saying? And so they use them now for muscle development and growth.

And you can become a monster, especially if you're pre-genetically disposed to be a big guy. I've seen some guys who never lifted a weight in their life and they look like a bodybuilder. You know, you look at the three different types of men, mesomorph, ectomorph, and endomorphs, three different types of body for males. And each of those are completely different.

You know, one's heavily in muscle. One is extremely thin. And then you've got the, you know, kind of the middle that kind of falls into both patterns. He's musely but thin. But again, primarily they're completely different animals at the end of the day. And I don't, when you look at, let's say like Navy SEALs, you look at certain guys like that that are just genetic freaks where they can take the cold water and it just doesn't bother them. You know, where I, dude, I get in look at cold water and I get seized up.

Right. Oh, I don't want to get in that shit. But listen, they say it's really good for you as well, though. You should have a nice cold shower, a nice bath. The body enjoys that and there's some really benefits from it. Yeah, for taking shit like testosterone replacement. Like what are some of the benefits of taking that shit? Dude, I will tell you this, you recover faster.

I had a problem with some dental work that I had done. And the dentist said, hey, listen, they didn't pull my wisdom teeth when I was in the military because they were too badly impacted. And they said, hey, listen, those bothering you? And I'm like, no, you go, we're just going to leave them alone. So later I had to have one of them removed. And he goes, I talked to one of the doctors who said, hey, listen, unfortunately, I'm going to break your jaw when I pull that tooth out because

there's such a thin layer of bone. below that, the tooth is taking up most of the bone for that jaw. So I'm like, oh man, the last thing I want to have is a broken jaw. I'm going to have to wire it shut. And then you're going to be sucking on straws. So I went out and found another doctor who said, hey, listen, I can pull that out without breaking it and saving you a lot of pain and problems over the long term. So I'm like, okay, cool.

So he pulled it. He said, hey, I can see the nerves. They decided not to put a piece of bone graft in there because he was afraid that bone graph would grow around the nerve and strangulate it. So he goes, hey, I'll see you in a couple of weeks. So I went back a couple weeks later. and now I'm on my testosterone regimen and I went back and he put me under the x-rayed

and he's like oh my god and I'm like uh-oh you know nothing good follows that what's up he's like dude the jawbone is almost completely filled itself back in so the healing factor I told him I said I'm on testosterone I wonder if that would have something he was oh absolutely that definitely makes you

heal faster that's interesting across the board have you heard of a book called breath it's by this guy James Nestor and he does he did this study on on human skulls and the jaws of humans specifically and their whole teeth structure

over like hundreds of years. Okay. And he dug up like the skulls and the bones of all these people in France, in these tombs. And he found out that people like back in the day before processed foods, they had way bigger jaws. They were like 30% bigger. Wow. Their teeth were bigger. Their jaws were bigger. Their whole facial structures were like completely different because they weren't

eating the processed foods that we're eating because right now the problem is that we're eating. There's all these processed foods and all the soft foods that we're eating less and less people are eating meat now. And it's, it's contributing to this decay in facial and bone density. Interesting. And the jaws are getting smaller and they look at, you know, you'll see some people, he also does a big study on like the difference between nose breathing and mouth breathing. And a lot of people now that breathe out of their mouths, they have like these receded jaws.

They have fucked up teeth. And that's also, which a lot of dentists don't even talk about, one of the biggest cause of tooth decay and cavities. is mouth breathing. Really? Really? Breathing through their mouths. And this guy did studies on himself where he taped his mouth shut for a month and slept just breathing through his nose. And then he did it the opposite.

Taped his nose shut and just breath and just breathed through his mouth. And he basically like quantified all the effects from like cognitively at how we felt monitored his like HRV, his heart rate, everything like biometrically. and found, you know, crazy, crazy things and benefits of breathing through your nose and to chewing, like chewing stuff with your teeth, like meat and, you know, how it affects bone density in the jaw. And it was just fascinating. The book's called Breath. And it was really interesting to show, like, how humans have evolved from hundreds of years ago to the food from the foods we were eating and yeah it was fucking wild no and like i say you look at that

in the bigger picture of it nutrition is such a big part of what we do you know when i go back and look at some of the fats now that i've obtained some of the ways that we have changed our eating habits i told you pasta is good but it's all processed um i don't like what it does to my body when you eat a starch it turns it into a sugar and then your body releases insulin to store that away and so that was always a challenge for me but now that i've kind of changed my diet up um i i'm I've started to lose a lot of that sloppy fat weights that's on the outside. And again, this is all part of the testosterone regimen as well. But you can control your weight easier.

I feel better. Any issues that come up tend to heal faster and quicker across the board. Listen, also, I find a great doctor. I've got a great doctor here in Florida. He's a super guy. He's really involved with my day-to-day activities. I see him every three months. Go back.

We talk about where I'm at now, where it was at then. And like I say, man, it is an absolute game changer. When you talk about leading a great, you know, quality of life without having to worry about all the aches and pains that are associated with being 60. You know, I never thought, first of all, I never thought I'd be 60. I thought, well, if I was going to live this long,

and I'd take a better care of myself. But I think, you know, at the end of the day, I got a lot of people come up to me and go, damn, dude, you are 60. You look great for a stick. You look 40. You know, if I can shave 20 years off looking older, I'm happy about that.

You know, that quality of life. I love the outswords. I still, I still go to the gym. still involved. I like to do simple things. Wash my car, cut my grass, clean my pool. Without the normal everyday aches and pains that so many other people go through, you know, this process of becoming just a better human being

at the end of the day. It's funny. Lexi always shows me these videos on TikTok of these girls who they go to like Germany or Italy and they're going to the grocery stores. And there's so much more like raw foods, like whether it be meats or vegetables. Oh yeah. So much cheaper. Oh yeah. To get like raw

unprocessed healthy foods at way more affordable prices. And it's just better for you. I mean, listen, we had ran into a couple one night. Because they're, look, they're incentivized to keep their people healthy because they're socialized medicine there. Absolutely. Well, gluten. Listen, you can't cook with gluten overseas. Like, I met some guys who were here from Italy. Me and Donna were out one night having dinner. And my sister-in-law had pointed out my stomach when he goes, hey, you're gluten intolerant because my stomach was sticking way out. I'm just full. She's like, no, no, no. Your

stomach doesn't pop out like that because you're full. It's popped out like that because you're gluten intolerant. And I was like, you know, whatever, you're not a doctor. You're not sure talking about. So sure enough, about two years later, I was asking the doctor about it. He goes, oh, we can do a test on you. Probably gluten intolerant, because a lot of people are. Sure enough, gluten intolerant. So talking, having this conversation, the woman goes, hey, if I can chime in, I hear you guys talking, gluten is illegal in Europe. We can't use that. It's illegal? Illegal. So I said, what, I mean, said, wow, that sounds crazy. Oh, yeah. Well, I said, well, so let me ask just what else would you. They need fucking spaghetti all over pasta, whatever. I mean, all over Italy.

Bingo. But they, as she said, what they do is they use. They use. use egg yolk instead of gluten. She goes, now the problem is that the egg yolk is more expensive than the gluten. So he goes, that's why we don't use it. And that's why America does use it because you guys have such an unbelievable marketplace here that people just eat that and don't give it any consideration. We have the pharmaceutical industrial complex here. Absolutely.

Absolutely. So I think at the end of the day, when you start taking into consideration what you're eating, if you really don't become a student of what it is, there's now got out, there's now a company out there that if you have certain conditions when you eat certain foods, they'll actually be able to tell you what foods not to eat. And I'm like, hey, if I was suffering from Crohn's disease, that would be the first thing I would want to know. My secretary that had this, her son would eat certain types of foods

that had those little seeds on top of like the buns. Yeah. And those seeds would get into the fold of his stomach. Yeah, those seeds are really bad. And there'd be a, now, back up, you know, when McDonald's first came out and cooking those, there was no problems like that. So what's in those seeds today that if they got into a fold of your,

intestines would infect it and possibly even have to make you have that part of your intestines cut out. So I think when you start looking again at the food, what you're eating, how your digesting system works, what's going on is going to determine, hey, whether I'm going to have a great life as I get older or I'm not. And I've tried to really moderate, like there's certain foods that just inflame my joints on my arms. There's just some foods I just can't eat that have whatever the chemical is in them, it just bothers me to no end.

So I've gone back to my basically steak, you know, potato, and maybe a green bean. I found out here recently what a blessing magnesium is and how it affects your body. It actually helps you sleep, which I was like, what? So I've got back on a regimen of magnesium now. Your body doesn't produce that. We need to have that, you know, brought in through eating. So they make it in a vitamin-type capsule, and I've been taking that. Again, notice some great, actually sleeping harder.

getting more, feeling more rested at the end of the night. Yeah, rest is a, sleep is a huge thing. And sleep is also a big part of testosterone, too. Absolutely. The more sleep you have, the higher your testosterone is. And when you don't get enough sleep, that fucks you up, like, every single way chemically. Well, you know, it's funny, man, kind of getting off the track here, but talking to some friends of mine about sleep deprivation. These guys were working overseas.

They were special operations guys. and they had come in contact with some Taliban leaders. And so I made a joke to them, oh, hey, you're going to waterboard these guys? And they all start laughing like, dude, you've been reading too many Tom Clancy's books. We don't do that anymore. There's just no more waterboarding. How long ago was this? This is probably three years ago, two years ago.

So I laughed. I said, well, let me ask you. Because these dudes, let me tell you them, bro, the Taliban leadership, they look hard. These guys, they didn't care they were in jail. They still look mean. There was no looks on their face. Like, please let me out. They were like, you know, bitch, soon as I get out of here.

I'm going to start killing Americans again. And so you're watching these guys as they showed again how hard they were. So I said, let me ask you, how are you going to get a guy like that talk? And he said, through sleep deprivation. And I said, so I don't understand. He said, well, come here. So he brings me back to a room. And what they do is they have a small 10 by 10 room, has a metal bed and a metal toilet.

In the corners are these speakers that are buried into the wall. And he goes, what I do is they play the sound of 10,000 rabbits that are being slaughtered for three days. at maximum volume. And he goes, they will tell me anything I want to know. They actually tell me things I didn't even ask them about at that point. Because if you go, he goes, we've gone to five days and actually killed somebody. So you can't sleep is that important at the end of the day. You need good sleep and good rest.

So you, again, that's going to be a quintucial to having good health as well. So I started looking at that real hard. And especially with me taking testosterone now, having a hard time sleeping. But when I wake up at 2 o'clock, or three o'clock in the morning, I'm not tired. It's not like I'm waking up like, oh, man, I need to go back to bed. I could actually start my day and get to work, you know, and make things happen early. And sometimes I do that. I'll just get up and get on my computer and start doing some work in the morning. I forget who it was, but it was one of the guys who was at Guantanamo was interviewed. And

he was talking about, like what you were talking about, the sleep deprivation and playing the music. Oh, yeah. Oh, you know what this was from, I believe this was from a podcast I listened to called It was called like the other Latif. And it was about this guy named Latif, Nasir that was put in Guantanamo. And they asked him, or he said in an interview after having to listen to like Barney, they would put like, they would blast the Barney theme song for days and days and days. He would go, if somebody asked you before having to experience it, would you rather be castrated or listen to, with no, with no painkillers or listen to,

or listen to Barney at full blast for a week. He goes, after doing it, I would rather be castrated with no fucking painkillers. Because you know it's over with it in a certain period of time. Yes. It's crazy, man, the stuff they do. And the enhanced interrogation program, too. I have a guy actually, I'm supposed to be having on here soon,

was one of the CIA psychologists who was paid $80 million to develop the enhanced interrogation program. Wow. And he lives right here in Sarasota. And that's going to be an interesting podcast. He was one of the two guys that were in charge of developing that interrogation program after 9-11 with the waterboarding and all that stuff. So, you know, too, they still haven't brought those guys up on any trials yet.

All the guys who committed the 9-11 atrocities. They're all still in Guantanamo Bay. Right. Yes, they are. They are. I don't know what the latest is on that. But, yeah, they, I don't know what's going on with that. But that trial has been delayed for forever.

It's been 20 years now. I mean, I'm like, not that, listen, not that I think you deserve a speedy trial. I just thought it was interesting that they haven't gone to trial. It is weird, right? I mean, it just kind of lends itself to some of the other things we've discussed in the past with, you know,

is this a real event that took place? I just watched this. Oh, my God. Have you, what's the guy's name who killed bin Laden? Well, there's two guys. There's the redhead guy who was the first, the guy who actually shot him in the face. Yeah.

I forget what his name is, but I just watched a podcast with him. And he was basically, he was walking, he was walking us through. through the whole, when they went into that building that bin Laden was in and how they were like walking up the front. They were walking up the stairs to get to the top level. Right. And when he saw bin Laden, he said he had one of his wives, like he was holding onto her shoulders and like using her as a human shield.

Right. And his two year old son was on the bed. And he shot him. And they're asking about like the photos of bin Laden, right? Like the photos online. You can see, you can find photos of him after he was shot. and the guy who was interviewing was like so those photos aren't real

like are those photos legit that's the guy what's his name Robert O'Neill Robert O'Neill yeah Rob O'Neill's he goes he goes oh no he goes I shot him in the eyeball

I shot him right through the eye three times from six feet away with a 40 caliber I forget what type of bullet it was but it was a high powered fucking rifle sure he said he shot him three times he goes his face from his nose up

was completely Veed He goes He goes He goes He shot him from six feet away With the fucking massive Massive rounds Sure

He goes His face was unrecognizable He's like When we were taking the photos To send him back to the Pentagon Or send him back to their commanders or whatever He was holding bin Laden's head together He had to hold his head together with both hands

While they poured water on top of his head To get off all the blood And stuff Because it was unrecognizable after the shot him in the face. Yeah. Like, why, when they were,

why they had the fake doctored photos of his fucking head? Well, listen, I mean, this whole thing gets even more convoluted than that. Even though that Rob O'Neill says he did it, there was a book that came out, and a guy named Matthew Bissonet,

he's also a seal that went in there, said he killed bin Laden. Really? So, yeah. So there's a whole, there's a whole interesting thing about this. Not on that, do they supposedly,

when, and this is going to get off on a tangent here, but supposedly bin Laden's still alive. he's in Iran. The Iranians at the time that after they, after President Obama came out and said they killed him, called them and said, this is the Iranians calling Obama, or not Osama bin Laden, but calling Obama, and saying, hey, you guys didn't kill him. We have him right here.

You better pay us $500 gazillion, or we're going to release this information and you'll never be president again. So supposedly, and there was this large, massive amount of money. I want to say it was like 500 million or some unbelievable amount of money that went to the Iranians that the Obama government sent over there, which I questioned initially. But then one of the stories came out that when they found out they hadn't killed bin Laden, they dumped his body out of a helicopter over the water. Right. I heard they dipped him off like a ship or something.

Well, I heard off a helicopter. It was the seals going back after they had got him on the, now what happened? That was a proper burial for him for a Muslim or something? They say that, but that's not how you bury a Muslim. For sure, that's not how you bury a Muslim. That's a daylight burial. They have to be buried in a direction. I think it's to the west, which points to their religion and their church, which

just there's a whole other process to it. But when he talked about this, the first thing you do, and they did this with Saddam Hussein, now listen, they took Saddam Hussein from his side, they brought him over, they hung him by the neck. Right, we saw him getting executed. Saw him get him executed. There's an autopsy. But they do a DNA scrape on him also. Right.

To confirm it that's who this was. They did not do that with bin Laden. Which is weird, right? It's very weird. Why? So, I've never, I've never, I've asked many people, even CIA people, John Kariakou had him in here. I've never had her convincing reason, convincing, like, like, okay, like a reasonable explanation to why.

Unless it wasn't him. Unless it wasn't. That's crazy to say, like, to say they didn't fucking kill him. I mean, it's just... Why is there two seals that claim they killed him? I've never heard about the other guy. Oh, yeah. Like I said, he actually...

Matthew Bessonet came out with a book, and he uses a different name as kind of a... Like a... What's the word I'm looking for? Did he claim he was on the same team that went in with... Oh, yeah. With... Oh, yeah.

He's a seal. This guy's a true seal the whole nine of... So he was with O'Neill. Yeah. Had they ever asked O'Neill about this guy? Well, see, that's the whole thing. There's another seal program that's on YouTube, and they brought these guys in, and they were talking about this.

And I said, Listen, bring these guys in. Bring Bissonette in and O'Neill. Let's find out where they were at in the building. Where were you at in the stack? The stack being, you know, the guys standing in line before you make interest into the building. So, I mean, if you can tell us where you were at in the building, that's going to tell us whether you shot bin Laden or not.

So, but they won't bring these two guys together, and I keep egging them on. Bring these guys on the show and ask them where they were. We won't have to guess anymore. Right, right. Because I promise you, we're going to find out exactly where they were in the stack. So at that point we'll be able to find out who actually killed him But it you know when just before Trump got out of office there was this whole leak from the CIA about this guy who was a living in Saudi Arabia

He was living with royalty he's an American And he's a falconier Falconering is real big over in Saudi Arabia And he came out and was one of these guys was saying oh there's a lot more going on here Falconer means me one of those people that like fucking falcons fly around That's it's it Really? Well, listen, that's a big business over there.

Really? Oh, man. I went over there one year. To Saudi Arabia? To Saudi. And we were dealing with the prince. And so we were selling them guns. And they came out, there must have been 40 or 50 people out in the middle of the desert.

And they let this little animal go. And it took off across the sand. And about a minute later, they let this falcon go. And the falcon swoop down and got it. And these 40 people all started clapping their hands. And I'm looking around like, here, should be clapping? I wouldn't clap anyway. Yay.

I don't understand what the hell I'm looking at. Excuse me. The, they said, hey, listen, the prince wants to see the guns. So we got the guns together, brought him over to them. Well, when you fire these things, they have a tendency to rock you back a little bit. So what I did was I stuck my hand up behind his shoulder just so it wouldn't rock him back. And I touched him when he shot the gun. And two guys broke out a line and started running at me, and he screamed something at them.

And the handled it was there, turned to me and goes, don't you ever do you ever? touch the prince again. Those guys were coming over here to kill you. Don't you ever put your hands on him again? What prince was this? Uh, prince. I'll have to go back and look now. There was two of them that were there. Um, and he was the, there's like, dude, there's like, like, like, 500 princes there, which was kind of unusual as well. It's not like the prince. He was breastfed from King Fasel's wife and there was a whole story behind it. Even when we, we finished up that day and we had gone back to, so wasn't Ben Salman? What's that Ben Salman? Exactly. Now, it was, I don't, I can't remember all the details on it now.

But we went back to the facility after the fact. And I was sitting down because I'd crossed my legs. I was sitting at the end. And chocolate over there is majorly expensive because there is no place to get chocolate from over there. So I was eating this chocolate and I had crossed my legs. And two of the commanding officers that were both Iraqis, or excuse me, Saudis, had a fit because I was showing them the bottom on my shoe. And they were down there, you know, bitching at me about, I'm like, I don't understand saying the other guy's like hey put your foot down put your foot down they don't want to see the bottom of your shoe it's a big a big offense so they want to so some things i was learning there

that were kind of odd um that they do from from a cultural perspective yeah but again trying to look at the overall like i say with that that day touching him um even when we were there the females had just were able to start driving cars and the muslin brotherhood was going around and shooting these girls who were driving cars so it created its own problems you know internally with the country right but um it it was interesting again to see what the take is on this whole bin Laden thing, you know, which of the seals killed him, what's the story there? Because it was even odd, do seals typically don't come out and talk about the operation. So that was even kind of weird.

So, you know, it's just odd. So, I mean, is it a smokescreen? It was just trying to make us really convinced that they really killed this guy at the end of the day. Why they didn't do a DNA scrape on him is above and beyond me, which just adds to the whole story. But then it doesn't sound real. You know, why would the government do that?

I don't know why the government would do that. I don't know if we really do have a thing going on with the Iranians. You know, yeah. The story just goes on and on and on and on with all types of hype and, you know. The thing about it is, is like the whole topic, when you start talking about stuff that's not like official

and stuff that's like doesn't, that goes against like the common narrative is that there's, the problem is there's so many conspiracies. Oh, yeah. That are real. Oh, yeah. There's so many conspiracies that are fucking real. especially when it comes to our government and the CIA,

like if you talk about like MK Ultra or the stuff that Kennedy talked about. And all of the fucking crazy shit, the Iran Contra and all the people that were murdered, conspiracies are real. Sure. So conspiracy, but conspiracy theories have the stigma.

Absolutely. And conspiracy theory, and that only benefits the people who commit the conspiracy. Yeah, rock on, brother. That's exactly right. It only benefits. It doesn't. It does. And it confuses the issue because it makes you go, well, wait a minute. Why would these people lie to us about certain events? I mean, like the whole, you know, Ben Laden thing.

Yeah. There was some oddities with the actual, this came up in a conversation with one of the guys here. The tailroader of a helicopter was left unburned. And what happened was it crashed coming in to landing in the, okay? So it crashed. And the tail rotor got broke off on the other side of the fence. So it didn't catch fire. one of the guys said what's really odd about this is that the actual blades on the tail rotor fan that keep the helicopter from spinning were not damaged and I said is that odd?

He goes, dude, they're always, I mean, they're moving. Everything's back there's moving. I've never seen a tail rotor survive a crash ever until I saw all this. Really? So again, it was one of those kind of those weird moments when you're like, well, hold on a second. He didn't know about the two different seals

that claimed to kill him. They didn't know about some of the other things that were not necessarily true or were not true about killing bin Laden. And so it was, you know, when you start asking him, well, do you think that they did this? And he was like, no, I mean, why would they do that? Well, you're bringing up this tail rotor thing and telling me how it wasn't damaged. I said, do you think it was just laid there? Yeah.

And he's like, I'm just telling you that it's unusual out of all the helicopter crashes I've investigated. I've never seen a tear rotor that wasn't damaged, ever. So he goes, this thing was actually. coming in for a landing. And I guess the problem was that there was a concrete structure. It was like a fence around the property. Concrete wall around the whole property.

And as they were landing, the down push of the air came back up the sides and went back over it down to the chopper again and it lost its ability to stay hovering. And so it didn't crash and none of the seals were killed. But they ended up having to burn that vehicle up because it was a right before they took off. Yeah, I believe it was some

sort of stealth chopper that they had were indicating that they needed to burn up. And so they did. And But again, when you looked at it, so it's just, it's, even like I say, we go look at 9-11, you look at all these conspiracies or the things that took place, the UFO crash in Brazil, and then you start talking to guys there. Well, there was something that happened, but nobody can confirm what it was. And so you're left kind of to make your own decision as to what your belief revolves around

those particular incidents. And, you know, I've always been a conspiracy guy. Obviously, when the story doesn't match to what the conversation is, there's a problem there. What was JFK's speech about secret societies? Do you remember that? Well, I'll tell you what, not only was he a secret society guy, one of the reasons. He was warning about secret societies. And he wanted to disband the CIA.

Completely. He was definitely not the internal groups that were protecting the U.S. were not satisfied with Kennedy because Kennedy was trying to share information with all the rest of the world. according to the story that they actually had a name for him. I can't think of the name that the Secret Service would call him by this name. I think it was called Spencer. And they said, hey, this document was actually burned in a fire, and somebody pulled it out.

And it said, in this was talk from a terrestrial group within the government that said, hey, Spencer is not cooperating. Spencer's starting to ask too many questions about our objectives and what we're doing. If he gets any closer, we're going to need to paint him wet. And the Russians use that terminology as to kill somebody. So when you see this on the paper, you're like, wait a minute, if Kennedy was truly killed for this reason, then there's a bigger part of the whole assassination plot that was going through. So I started to, you know, that's kind of what made me go back and kind of look at the Kennedy assassination.

And there's just some oddities about it with the Secret Service car that's behind him. And when they show you the investigation, they make it look like, like the Secret Service was just an entity they were predicting the president when in fact, I think they had an active role in his death. Well, I think most people that pay attention to it kind of like look at it. It's not really a conspiracy theory anymore. It's kind of like, it's kind of a, I don't know if you've watched Oliver Stone's latest film on it, the JFK revisited. Yeah. Oh yeah. Fucking crazy, man. Crazy. Unbelievable. There's no evidence to per, I mean, there's, there's,

the stack of evidence to show how it was an inside job by the CIA compared to the stack of to say that it was Lee Harvey Oswald. As a lone shooter. It's astounding. Ridiculous. I mean, even here's one of the things I looked at. In this process, I came across a guy who was a, this guy's a professional expert shooter. He's the one that proved that you could shoot a man like Kirkcona.

That's the rifle that killed Kennedy. You can squeeze off three shots in six seconds and hit your target. And I talked to this guy, super cool. And I said, so let me. me ask us, how did you get involved in the investigation? He goes, well, he goes, I started my own investigation because the paper that covered me when I did this outside of D.C. didn't tell them it took me six times to do it. So I had to do this, set it up six different times. So listen, he goes, there's no way that this was done by a lone shooter from the top of a roof.

So he said, I'm going to show you something. And this was a, it was a video. It's online. You can find it. It's a secret service guy. They land the car. in Dallas, and the two Secret Service agents run out to get on the back of the car, on the car that Kennedy's killed in. Right, right. And a third secret service officer who's in the follow vehicle tells them to get off the back of the car. And when they get off the back of the car, you can tell they weren't briefed on why they're not going to be on the back of the car because they put their hands up and they're like, what's going on? Why am I not on the back of this car? So then if you read the warrant report, the warrant report talks about the warrant commission.

The warrant commission talks about Lee Harvey-R. Or not Lee Harvey-A. But the Secret Service going in, they said, hey, listen, we're taking the President's body back to D.C. You need to pack him. This is after he died. At first they brought him to a hospital there in Dallas. Correct. And they immediately took him away.

Well, because he died. And obviously the massive head injury that he had was he wasn't going to survive that. So the Secret Service went and said, hey, you need to package the, the person. president up, we're taking him out of here. And the surgeon said to him, the doctor said, hey, he's not leaving Dallas. There was a murder done. There's going to be an investigation. And the Secret Service pulled his jacket away from his pistol and looked at the doctor and said, package his body up. We're taking him with us. Right. One of the other X-ray technicians came back. This is also on the Warren Commission report and talks about how another Secret Service agent, he goes, now I'm

21. This Secret Service agent came into me and handed us some brass or some lead objects and wanted him to take a picture with Kennedy's brain and have these fragments be in the in the photograph. And the guy that came back and said, listen, I'm 21. This is the Secret Service telling me what to do because I didn't question anything they asked me to do. I just went back and did it. Yeah, you're in the middle of something bigger than you want to deal with. Bingo. So you don't want to fucking be pushing back against this massive fucking bureaucracy. And again, he's the Secret Service. So it was a different time period for this. Nobody thought about still that there was anything, no, no collusion going on that Kennedy was killed by something else other. Oh, you know, he was killed by the Russians. Oh, he was

killed by the Italians. Oh, he was killed by, you know, whomever. But the interesting thing was, and as I started to go back and review the footage, the Secret Service car that the follow is behind the president is literally two feet from the back of the car when the shooting takes place. You would have heard those shots go over your head. And there's three, there's three agents in the very front of the car who are looking straight ahead, and there's two that are riding on the back of the car, the follow car. And their head's turned back towards the shooting where the book depository was. But the other three or have sunglasses on it and they're staring at Kennedy

intently. And it's just odd because you don't really realize how close the car is. So if they would have taken the first shot, that bullet would have gone right over the top of their car. The cracking sound of that bullet moving at the speed of sound or faster than makes a cracking noise. They would have heard that going over their head. And there would have been more going on with them at that point in time

than it would have been if they didn't hear the shot at all. So the bullet that went into his head that blew off the back of his skull, where did that enter? Did that go up through his neck? Or did that, where did it enter? Well, they're saying it came from behind him. Right. The official report says it came from behind him,

but it's clear the back of his skull blew off. Sure. Which means it came from the front. But then he also got shot through the neck, right? Because he goes like that. Right. That was the first shot. First shot, they said, went through the back of his neck,

through him, through the front seat in the front, hit Governor Connolly in the back, traveled down his arm, came through his arm, hit him in the wrist and stopped in his wrist. And the weird thing was the bullet was pristine. There was no, no marks on the bullet, which is really bizarre to have it go through two people and not have any marks be flat. What's that? The one that it finished up on his wrist.

It was called the pristine bullet. It was actually on the gurney. The magic bullet? The magic bullet wasn't the one that went in his wrist, right? The magic bullet was supposed to be placed there. The one that went in his wrist, they had to have pulled that out, right? No. That's what I say.

They didn't pull it. Oh, they never kept that. What they did was when they brought him in on the gurney, the bullet was already on the gurney. He was laying there next to him. Right. So again, that was kind of those weird things, but nobody questioned that.

I mean, you know, the government wasn't capable of being this cynical. So I don't think anybody says, oh, well, just passed through his body. So they were trying to show how a bullet could actually do that. Yeah, there it is. Oh, there you go right there. I mean, come on, man, look at that there.

That passed through two bodies, broke his wrist. Yeah. And you can even see, there's the drawing below it. So the one that blew the back of his skull, off. That one came up through like the jaw or something. Or no. Well, they say from behind. Now, if it was the grassy knoll shot. But it blew the back of his skull off. Right. Now, keep in mind too, man, your head

like a watermelon, water doesn't compress. That's why guys' heads blow up when you shoot him with a gun with a high-powered rifle. Same thing with you shoot a watermelon. The water doesn't compress, so your head's going to pop. Right. And when you see, he initially gets shot, Jackie Kennedy is sitting next to him and she jumps up out of her seat and grab something that's on the trunk of the car. Part of his head, yeah. That's part of his skull. which is kind of weird in itself. You're like, well, why would you run out and grab that? And, of course, I don't know what people do when you hit an emergency like that.

Anything's possible. But immediately, so you see the circuit service jump up, and he jumps on the car and they tell the guy to get out of there. So I just think there's too many weird things with the Secret Service do the Warrant Commission report that point to those guys. And they try to stay off the radar. They turn out to show their car. They try not to have any information. They try to. And one of the agents that was initially going to be sued keeps threatening to sue this guy who did the testing on the, on the ballistics.

and he keeps you telling this guy this is the former secret service agent good bring me to court I want you to bring me to court because the truth will come out when we do this and so he's never gone to court yet for this date

the crazy thing about the latest documentary we gotta wrap it up soon you got like a minute left but the craziest thing about Oliver's latest documentary JFK revisited is that they talk to one of the people at the hospital

that they brought him to first in Dallas and one of the girls who actually knew him like had been around him before and she was she talks about how emotionally distraught she was when they brought him in because she explains how his cerebral fluid and parts of his brain were like oozing and dripping out

like all over the fucking the tray underneath his head but then miraculously after they brought him to DC they have his fucking brain and they weighed his brain and his brain weighed more than what the average brain weighs intact and after his fucking head got blown up and here's the creepy part dude they still don't know where his brain's at today right that's an ongoing so again it's just those little moments like that, they go like, hey, what's really going on here in the bigger picture? You know, listen, 9-11, we've got, you go back to Pearl Harbor, you go back to all these major events that take place in the world, and there's always some sort of dark information that kind of follows them around as well. And I don't know, you know, is this the, is this the World Bank

talking? Is this, there's like six or seven families that are really running the world? You know, the joke was that I heard that the, uh, the lizard people. I mean, is it? You know what I'm saying. So when you take into consideration due to all the things that are going on around the world, it's all paranormal. It comes down to some sort of either UFO-based information, you know, about running the planet and doing all these crazy things to, you know, bring down the population. But it just never seems to go away. And like I say, dude, when you look at today, you got, what, 20 different shows that are on right now that, you know, deal with Bigfoot and classified documents and fear in the woods and beyond the unknown and all these different shows and each show shows you a little bit

of something and if like I say if you watch them long enough you start to see this wait wait a minute why is this going on and you know again listen why are we having this conversation today it's so interesting it's so amazing there's an awakening that's going on around the world and I think the people that wake up and kind of see some of the things that are going on now are looking at them much more intently than they were just 10 years ago well Mike thank you for doing this I definitely have way more questions than I have answers after talking to you. We've got to get you back in here soon. Dude, let's do it again. I appreciate you having me on the show again. And like I say,

man, we'll give you an update sometime here in the near future. Hell yeah. You're the official concrete UFO correspondent. I appreciate you, man. All right. Thank you, everybody. And good night. Take care.