Danny Jones Podcast - #201 - Why Aerospace Scientists Are Wrong about UFO Propulsion | Jack Sarfatti

Episode Date: September 11, 2023

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You were trying to explain to me last night when I was asking you about the Grush testimonies and all the stuff that he was saying. And I was explaining to you that I was highly skeptical of the whole thing. The fact that they made it this big dog and pony show on national television. And, you know, I always question it. When the government starts to get behind it, I always question motives and what's going on. Okay. If I said, when you say the government, there is no such thing anymore. There's no government.

We're in a state of chaos. The government is, you know, what balkanization means? You know, like you know, Slavis, they're different, what you see right now happening, you know, with the extreme Democrats are trying to put in jail all the guys around Trump. You know, that's like civil war.

That's a civil war. We're in a civil war, except, you know, not shooting each other, but they're trying to stop, they're interfering in the election. It's like a political war. Well, but it's getting real bad. I mean, they're trying to put, this has never happened in the United States.

It's like a banana republic now. Yes. You know, it's a, I mean, They, what do they do? Yeah, Putin might do this, right? Putin just killed, oh, who's the guy, Gregosian? The one guy? The only thing you haven't done it.

Yeah, he just died. He just died. He's not been crashed. Donald Trump's airplane has not been shot down yet. Right. But maybe that's coming. You know, I wouldn't be surprised, would you? Right, right.

No, I honestly wouldn't be surprised. So there's no difference between what's happening in Russia with Putin and what's happening in the United States. It's the same thing. It's organized crime all over the place. What it is, it's like the mafia. It's like different gangs are fighting each other. Russian mafia against the Italian.

When you're talking about these different gangs, you're talking about different factions of the government, like the intelligence community. Yes, they're all in the government now. The government, we don't have a legitimate government anymore. So, so you met, so that's what you're talking about when you say there's a war going on inside the intelligence community.

Yeah, right now, there are guys, there are guys, okay, there's Trump deranged deranged there, there's Sarpati deranged deranged deranged there. I have people in the CIA or ex-CIA who are supporting what I'm doing. And then I have guys who are trying to destroy me. If I get hit by a car... Who's trying to destroy you? Christopher Mellon's trying to destroy me.

Why? That's a good question. Why would he want to? What would his motive be? Because we got into a fight over Donald Trump. You and Christopher Mellon did? Yeah. We were getting along fine.

he was going to come up to do a thing at the Bohemian Grove on UFOs he was going to come you and him we're going to go to Bohemian Grove I invited him we were going to have a thing there okay I invited we should have on this podcast of Bohemian Grove that would be great yeah well I mean you know the guy can we get the big owl statue is this big statue still there yeah oh like the owl yeah that was still there but they'll never let me back now but you know what the hell do I care that but it's true no well there was this guy Don Rich who's now died Don Rich was one of the top members of the Bohemian Grove. Okay?

Let me tell you about Don Rich. Just passed away about a year ago. Yeah, just about a little more than, no, a year and a half ago. He passed away. Don Rich, okay, Don Rich was born in Idaho, cowboy. He's half Indian, half Apache. And cowboy, his grandfather was a Texas Ranger. Yeah, he was a real cowboy.

You know, grew up on a ranch in Idaho. And his father was a friend of Kenneth Arnold. Worked for Kenneth Arnold, who was a big ranch. Kenneth Arnold is the pilot who in 1947 first saw the flying discs. Yes. So Don was a little boy, that four or five years old, but was there when Kenneth Arnold came back and had just seen the flying saucers.

tall ones you know Don heard Kenneth Arnold telling his father about what it just happened but he just saw

so right there at the beginning right there's okay there's some other stuff so of course so Don Rich was into flying source

from the very beginning because he did Kenneth Arnold his father worked for that Kenneth Arnold okay so Don about my age

maybe two years younger than me he would have been about 82 now. So Don goes into the Marines and becomes a tank commander and sees some action, I guess, I don't know, in South America. Maybe I forget where

it was. Not Grenada, I think it was something else. And he gets out of the Marines in the 60s. Yeah, was he in Vietnam? I don't know. But he's an artist. He's a sculptor. So Don

has a big forge He does massive steel sculptures you know stuff and he had a forge in Oakland famous thing

and he can't say he's quite successfully he worked with Buffano you know a bunch of famous he got involved with all these famous people and he started teaching across this is the art institute

here started teaching at the art institute you know so it's like the late 60s And then this guy who I think is probably connected with Chipman. It wasn't Chipman, but this guy, Colonel Harry Wolf, which may not be his real name. This guy now comes up one day, knocks on the door, around 1969. And Don's brother, who's now a colonel in the Marines, his brother, he went in because his older brother was in the Marines. Okay.

And, you know, he said, Semper Five, the Colonel Harry Wolf, he said, listen, we need you to do some work for us. He's CIA. Well, you know, CIA. And his job is, now if he does this for a couple of years, he, you know, part-time, it's a courier, what's called the courier? They give him stuff where he has to, you know, handcuffer to himself, gets on airplanes, and he has to deliver things, small packages. And he's delivering stuff to the, he said,

at one time, went to China, Shanghai even. And, but the French intelligence, the, the MI6, the Australians, he was going all over with this stuff. And they were, now, we were talking about Phil. They were the parts for Roswell Crash, parts for the Roswell Crash Sasser. You know, that Phil Koso talks about

when trying to reverse engineer, all that stuff. Right. So Don is, you know, he's above it. And then, at one point, Harry Wolf, see, this is, this, Harry Wolf gives and he says, keep this for me. By the one, there's some LSD, yeah, with the CIA and the LSD,

there's some LSD stuff involved here, but I don't want to get into it, because I don't know fully what was really going on. Don was never clear about it. But apparently Don Wolf, yeah, this guy, this guy, Harry Wolf, was also involved with MK Ultra. That's what it was. They were doing LSD experiments on people and stuff like that. Yeah, he was involved.

He was probably, so that means he had to be involved with Chipman 2 back then, okay? This before I knew Chipman. I don't chip in for, all right. So, but this is all a CIA operation, or whatever the, okay. And so, so, so,

Harry Wolf gives him this army duffel bag, like A-A-F, 19, you know, Roswell. Mm-hmm. On it, old, you know. And Harry says, don't look in this. I'll be back in a week to get it. So, of course,

he opens it up, right? In it? If you read, of course, they say about the strut, like the aluminum was struck, with the symbols like the Egyptian Harriglav symbols on it it's there

it's there he hasn't in his hand by front okay okay this is I show you a photo me and Don and he's got it and he's and he's as a Ford you know he's settling torches got everything

and he tries he can't do it it's like it resists any kind of thing except sometimes you could cross somebody you can crumple like and it restores so and it hardly weighs anything it's like it's anti-gravity almost and then it generally starts like almost

floating. Wow. Okay. So this is, he's telling me, though, this, I got other witnesses, not just me, Kim, and this other guy, Larry Lemke, who works for Jacques Valet and Gary Nolan. You know, Gary Nolan is, okay? So, you know, Larry works with me. They analyze these materials, right? No, this is back

in 1968. This is Dodd Rich, telling him, this is way before any of this stuff now. Okay. It's back in 1968, 969. And Harry Wolf comes and takes it back. Okay. So now, all this stuff, By the time, I am

content, how did I meet? Oh, yeah. So, Don Rich's nephew named Will Eroken, who actually works, I think, for DreamWorks, for Spielberg or something like, yeah, he does, you know, computer animation. This kid, he's young, his nephew,

this is about six years ago, seven years ago, forget exactly, walks in the Cafres, me and Kim, you know, give me a bit, and says, hey, you guys got to meet my uncle because he knows about you, and he's into flying saucers and all the stuff and he's very big at Bohemian Grove

he wants to you guys take you into the Bohemian Grove so that's how we met that's how we met and Don he knew it you know he had a big library he read everything he knew exactly he knew this stuff was real okay Don

at this point they had a memorial I was at the memorial when he died at Bohemian Grove you know all the top guys you know think highly of him. Don was one of the six guys who run the grove, you know, in charge of the, you know, they have, you know, make sure everything, you know,

physically, you know, make sure everything, you know, they have a private police force and stuff like, you know, make sure, you know, make sure everything is operating properly. He didn't like to go to the city club, but he liked to go up to the grove. So we would go up to the grove with him all the time, you know, hang out with him.

They had all these different camps. Next door was Clint Eastwood's camp. Okay. and then we have a and his camp you know and there's all these camps with this camp

where Henry Kissinger and Bloomberg and all these guys I heard Robert Gates Robert Gates giving a lecture up there on the lake there by the big statue

you know and the lake and Robert Gates this is back like 2017 or something like that I don't know if Trump was president

in the idea and Gates is talking somebody asked about Joe Biden Joe Biden you're talking about Bill Gates no Robert Gates who was Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, he was the

Secretary of Defense. I've got him to who? Not Bill Gates. Although Bill Gates would go there. Oh, I'm sure. But now Robert Gates, somebody asked him a question about, what do you think of Joe Biden? Basically, Robert Gates says, Joe Biden is dumb as a rock. I know rocks that are smarter than Joe Biden.

He says every foreign policy decision position that Joe Biden has supported has turned out to be a disaster. This is back Before, nobody was thinking Joe Biden as president And this supports all And I heard Gates say this

And then This supports when Trump says that When he spoke to Teddy Kennedy This is back when you know Trump was a Democrat Was you know Right Right

He did the Clints He went to wedding In fact In fact the Trump's daughter And Chelsea Good friends with Jeffrey Epstein No Oh no

That's bullshit Okay It's not bullshit No no I know exactly what it is. Okay, don't tell me because I know better than you. I have better I know a lot about Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump. I've done a lot of research on that. No, yeah, but I know too. What I know is this. Here's what I know. Donald Trump never went to the

island. Clinton went to the island. Jeffrey Epstein was a member of the Mara Lago club, as are a thousand people, okay? And then Jeffrey Epstein started hitting on a 15-year-old daughter of the guy, one of the guys who works at the club, the gardener or something like that. And a soon as Trump found that out, he kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of, yeah, he used to hang out everybody, but so did the Clinton and so did everybody. Right, everybody did, right. Yeah, everybody did. But, but, but, but, uh, I don't think you, there's any proof that Trump ever went to the island. Trump was probably more connected to Epstein than, than anybody else. If, uh, if it was, it was financial stuff. I don't, I don't think it was sex. I'm pretty sure it

wasn't sex. I don't know about that. I don't think there's any evidence of that with Trump doing that, but I think, um, it wasn't with the, with, uh, I don't. I know Trump has been to his townhouse in New York a number of times. Oh, yeah, of course. But they all were. I mean, Clinton, Clinton? I mean, you know, anybody's anybody was. Right. I mean, Epstein, I'm sure it's Mossad. This is, this is. Epstein is Mossad, right? 100%.

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I agree. I agree. So Epstein's job was to compromise. So they have like, like, like, who would, you know, had dirt on everybody, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even though Hoover himself was gay, right? Right, right.

Yeah. Yeah, no, no, no. His boyfriend, we know about that. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so, yeah, so that's true. But I do know for sure that when Trump found out about, you know, the girl, that the thing, he kicked, he kicked Epstein out of Marlago. Take your money. You know, welcome here.

Right. Yeah. I don't think, I don't think Trump, there's any of it's of Trump doing any sort of business or hanging out with Epstein after he was convicted. the first time. Unlike Bill Gates, who actually, like, met up with him and did a bunch of stuff after. And let me tell you something else. A bunch of my physicist friends hung out, went to the island. Yeah.

Stephen Hawking. Stephen Hawking went to the island? Yeah, with Kipp Thorne, who got the Nobel Prize. And a bunch of other, this guy who runs Santa Barbara, if we want to get into all the dirt, I forget his name now, the guy who runs the Santa Barbara Institute of Physics, spent a lot of time there. A lot of it. And this guy, Seth Floyd, MIT.

It was very good physicists, by the way. Now, I'm not saying they, I don't think they, I think when the, let me say this, when the physicists were there, I don't think there was any hanky-panky going on. No, no, no, no. That was. He held a lot of big events there. Yeah, he brought a lot of people there. And that was part of his operation. It was easier to get high-level people with money like Bill Gates if you see that, look, all these other high-level academics and physicists, scientists, scientists,

are going there. What's wrong with me going there? You're not going to think twice about it. Well, the same thing happened. See, Warner-Air did the same thing. But Warnedah was not into sex or anything like that. With me, because Wernard was supporting us. This is back in the 70s. And he did the same thing that Epstein did. But he was not involved in anything, you know, ulterior like that. Right. There was nothing with kids or anything like that. Right. But they also had all these famous Feynman and Lenny Suskind and, you know, all the famous Hawking and Kipthor, they all.

went there here and said this was in San Francisco. Yeah, so that was, and, and, and, uh, Wharton was also an intelligence agent. I'm not sure for who, but it could be the Mossad, but probably CIA, but it could be the Russians actually because he went to Russia afterwards. So I don't know who, who he was, but it was definitely part of the intelligence. Right. Um, all right.

So that's, that's a standard thing they do. Yes. Yeah. Um, I want to get into the warp drive stuff. Yeah. Okay. Can we talk about that? Can you explain to me?

your warp drive theory and how that works? I'll try. Okay, the warp drive theory. Okay, so now it's a little bit, okay, I'll use, if you look at Bob Lazars' videos, where he talks about gravity A and gravity B, when he talks about the, as you said, the flying source

of falling freely through space. Yes. Okay, that's what it is. But now, what it is, is Einstein's theory of general relativity about gravity. Gravity is the bending of the space itself. It's the warping of space itself. What's called curvature. The curvature of space and time is gravity. This is, okay? So gravity is space and time itself is a field. Like there's an electromagnetic field. There's a space time field. It's a field. Gravity field is space time. No difference.

Okay. If you can control gravity, you control space time. You control space. space and timing, that's time travel. Okay. The problem has always been. Everybody knew this. This episode is brought to you by Bluechew. Let's talk about sex. Fellas, do you remember the days when you were always ready to go?

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The problem has always been that the strength of the gravitational interaction, I don't want to say force. They say force. Interaction is not a force. Gravity is not a force the way electricity is a force. But the strength of the interaction of gravity with matter is normally very weak. Okay. And it's, and so energy, if I have a concentration of energy in the volume, what's called, as stress energy density it's called, will warp space time. So if I had enough energy, and if I could shape that energy distribution properly, I can make space time warp any way I want to, okay? That's what these machines we see are doing.

That's what they're doing. The problem has always been that when you put in the numbers of Einstein's, actual equations, the coupling is so weak that it takes impossible amount of energy to accomplish that task. Okay. But we know from Ryan Graves and Commander Forever from the Tick-Tac and all this stuff, what we see them doing is that's what they are controlling gravity, but with small amounts of energy.

So there's something missing in our physics. Okay. Okay. That's the missing link. that's what I saw. The energy, right. Yeah, the energy barrier. And so the thing is this, I would say right away, as soon as it's warp drive,

like when Kevin Canuth were all these guys at the congressional meeting, the thing is going hundreds of Gs, that's impossible. Because inside the ship, they're weightless. Remember I saw you, inertial observers, you're in a space suit floating through space. Right. Inside, that's the correct part of what Lazar says, where the thing is, the ship is falling free, like it's falling through space,

weightless, you know, when you fall, you're weightless. Right. Okay. Like on the space, it's on space station, what's going around orbit, you know, they're floating around. Because there's no rock, they're not firing their rocket engines or anything.

They're floating around. Right. So what they're doing, the ship is, it's like on the space station, but it has a little, maybe that little fusion react, whatever, you know, that has a control system

where it's able to, change the shape of the space around it. Yes. So it can control any way it wants to go. Yes. So even though on the outside, it's going at 5,000, what a pair, it's called kinetic acceleration. There's no actual, the G force, the actual G, inside they're weightless.

Exactly. Okay. Outside, they're really are moving as if they're going 5,000 G and, you know, a million, zillion, jillion miles a second. But inside they're weightless. So we understand that right away. Yeah. easy.

Right. Easy conceptually. You know, anybody understands about that. But the guy's CIA director doesn't understand it. I don't think so. Haynes, none of these, they don't understand it. They don't understand it yet. I'm trying to explain to him.

They don't understand it. Forever doesn't understand it. Ryan Graves doesn't understand it. I can explain it to them. And when I tried to explain to Chris Mellon, he got mad. He didn't want to hear it. He said, no, you don't know. Why did he say that?

This guy, Christopher Mellon, he's a schmuck. He, he, I mean, you know, he's a schmock. But it comes to science. What is Christopher Mellon telling Jack Sarpati that he knows more physics than Jack Sarpati? I don't think he would claim to have no more physics. He did. He did. He said, no, he said, you can't be so sure.

I think he was trying to, like, put it down. You can't be so sure. You know, it's a thousand years ago. We won't know. And he's never taken a physics course. Right. And here I'm being, here the CIA, somebody's working on this. I mean, he's a stupid guy who shouldn't be in the position.

He was, he's a melon. His guy, you know, and by the way, his cousin, John Warner's a friend of mine. His cousin, his cousin agrees with me. They have the same grandfather. They grew up together. John says, yeah, my cousin's an idiot. That's incredible. Okay.

John Warner, who was Senator Warner's son, you know, his mother was, his stepmother was Elizabeth Taylor and all that, you know. All right, right. So, Navy Secretary of the Navy, all into you, O'FOs, okay? So, okay, so both John Warner and Chris Mellon, we all agree UFO's are real. It's a threat. Right. Is it a threat? Of course it's a threat. How is it a threat? It's a threat because we, because some of them are not friendly because there are many different. There's not just one. Which ones are friendly? Well, I don't know. The ones who contacted me presumably are friendly. But the ones, the ones, there are people who have been hurt. That's what Jacques Valet's working on. That's what Gary Nolan's working on. Right. They're working on the blood. They've been, they should at least. have died. Yeah, I've gotten sick.

Now, it may not be deliberate. It may go say, because you see, that's one, okay. In my theory, I explain when you have anti-gravity, if the thing, if you're under, okay, if you have, if there's a UFO hovering and you stand under it, you're not going to live long. You're going to get radiation. Radiation, yeah. Because it's what's called the blue shift, okay?

Yeah, explain the blue-red shift, how that works. That's really interesting. This is basic physics. If you have an attractive force field, if you're an attractive force field, and you're like in what's called, if it's a negative potential energy and you're down, like, toward the bottom, what's called the gravity well,

and you want to get out of it, if you want to get out, you have to, like walking up the hill. Yes. Okay, walking up the hill, you've got to exert energy. You're losing energy. So when light does that,

light is a photon, it's a packet of energy where the energy is proportional to the frequency. So in order for the light to escape the gravity field, it's losing some of its energy just the way you're expending energy by burning food, you're walking up the hill.

So the frequency goes down. That's the red shift. So that's okay. The red shift means, you know, that's not ionizing. That's lower the energy, then you can't do much damage. It's just like heat, you know, it's low energy. Red light. Yeah, like reddish light, the red shift.

But with anti-gravity, it's the opposite. With anti-gravity, it's like you're at the top of the hill. okay, at the top of the hill, you're on a scooter. You're on a skateboard. In fact, you're on a skateboard. You're on a skateboard. And you're gaining energy.

Yes. And that's the photon. So the font has increased its frequency. That's blue. And it gets an ionide. That's like, it's like a nuclear bomb, gamma rays, high energy gamma rays, high energy light. So the, so the,

so the, what happens is the light escaping from below the thing, it's anti-gravity, right? Because it's hover. It's, it's, the anti-gravity is canceling the earth's gravity. Right. It's hovering there. So, so, but, but, but radiation, any kind of light energy that's coming from the thing, it's, it gets enough energy and ionizes the, the air molecules, sorry, it ionizes the air molecules,

and that causes ionization and that, you know, if it's really high energy, it's the same as a, as a, as a, it's like radioactivity. You know, it's like, it's like the effects of, of a nuclear bomb blast. Obviously, it's happened because these people are getting radiation sickness. Right. I think it was on the PDF you sent me. It really described it nicely where it shows you the person and it shows the spacecraft moving towards you or away from you.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's the Sarfadi. That's one of my discoveries. One of my predictions. Normally, you know, the Doppler shift, the emotional Doppler shift, if a locomotive with a whistle is coming toward you, the pitch goes up, right?

Right, right. And if it's going away for you, the pitch goes down. Yep. With the UFO, it's going to be the opposite. As the UFO comes toward you, if you have the right, if you're a commander favor in your F-18 and you have the right instruments, okay, with Doppler radar with frequency shifts and stuff like that, when you see the thing is coming toward you, it's approaching you,

the frequencies are going to be lower, red-shifted, just the opposite of what you'd expect from the Doppler shift, and the opposite the other way. So when it's coming towards you, the frequencies get lower. Yes. And when it gets farther away, they get higher. Yeah. And if you see that, that is smoking gun.

That's warp. Then, you know, that's a warp drive. It's a warp drive. Yeah, very simple. That's Jack Sarfati. I'm the first one to say that. That's my prediction from the theory. And Frank Milburn, who wrote these.

So why is it the opposite of a train? Because that's just the way, because I explain, because that was the gravity thing. If you think about it, you see, that's, it's, gravity is different from motion. It's not motion. Got it. Got it. That makes sense.

Yes. So they work opposite to each other. Right. Okay. So that's how you can tell. Now, if the ship is moving through air, if it's ordinary motion, you'll get a regular Doppler ship. If it's warping space, you'll get the opposite.

So it's a very simple, experimental thing that the military should have by now, but they're so stupid, maybe they have it. Okay. Maybe they do have. But they have, aren't the top scientists from a, around the globe working for the government working in these companies like DARPA? No, because they're stupid because they don't listen to me, okay, because they're dumb. Are the Jason, were the Jason scientists dumb?

Well, back then, the Jason's, I didn't know any of this stuff. I was a kid then. That was too many years ago. But you don't think we still have programs like this with super geniuses? No, because they're too stupid. They don't, well, some of them are, maybe not. We now, Lauren's Berkeley Laboratory is done in secrets. I didn't know this until two days ago, three days, four days, a few days ago.

Last week, I find out. that at Lawrence Berkeley Lab, they have this big warp fusion reactor, and they're testing the Sarfadi equation. They haven't done that it's just, I think it's a proposal. Have you trademarked this, the Sarfati equation? Yes, that's what they call it. Who calls it that? What?

Who calls it that? Who calls it the Sarfadi equation? The guys on Lawrence Livermore. They all call it that? It's in their publication. Wow. Yeah. They got it from my paper.

I mean, there's a guy there. The guy in charge, it's a Ph.D., named Michael Gardner, Michael G. Anderson. He's in charge of their laser fusion stuff. This is what it's the nuclear weapons. Right? And apparently, according to Larry Lemke, who works with Jacques Valet and Gary Nolan,

they must have been, yeah, because they quote a paper of mine from three years ago, three or four years ago. Okay. So they've been working on this thing secret. Okay. Now, how do the meta materials fit into this? It's only getting every customer's order right.

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That's what I was telling you. That's what Don Rich had. Exactly. He had that. But he didn't know about metamaterials. He's not a scientist. He didn't have an electron microscope to look at it. He didn't have the stuff Gary Nolan has. He didn't know.

So the thing is this. Okay, so I have a theory, you know, and we're working on it now, that by pumping the metamaterial with enough resonant electromagnetic energy, we create what's called a, it's basically like a room temperature superconductor. It's called a frother condensate. It's like a laser, it's analogous to a laser, but the stuff that's lazing of what are called quasi-particles that are just emergent properties of the material itself.

So it doesn't go out into vacuum. You know, it's like the material itself. develops a new kind of quantum mechanical phase where it's coherent. It's basically, it could be used as a room temperature superconductor, but the point is you have to keep pumping it with energy. It's like a lazy, you have to keep supplying it with energy. Okay. And that's us.

We are that too, biologically. We're lasers. Because what do you think? We're lasers? Yeah, we're biological lasers. The math of life is the same as the math of the laser. Very similar. Wow.

This is, well, this is a guy. These are guys in Germany who have developed this. I forget what those guys. name. I have the books here. I got the books right there. You have a ton of books in here. Yeah. And so in any case, so the point is, see, this is how the consciousness and the warp driver connected.

See, it's all the same physics. When George Coopin in 1975 says, Jack, the CIA wants to know, one, how does consciousness work? Two, how did the flying sources fly? Whoa.

It's the two sides. It's the two sides. It's like Janus. You know, the Janus, the Gestile shift. It's the same physics. Two aspects. It's duality. It's what Lenny Susskind calls ER equals EPR. It's general relative equals quantum mechanics.

I'm simplifying. So are you saying that these craft are operated through the mind? Like they think about what they're going to do and their consciousness is directly connected to how these things propel through the universe? Exactly. That's what the guy, that's what they told me in 1953. It was a conscious. It is conscious.

This is the metamaterial, first of all, is both a conscious artificial intelligence. I'll call it a quantum. It's really a post-quant quantum computer. It's all built into the same architecture. Nanotechnology. You know, a little nanotechnology.

Right. Okay, what's happening now? The chips, the Apple chip, my M1 chip, is 5 nanometer technology. you know, this is my laptop. I have a M1. Yeah. Do you have an Intel?

No, I got the same thing you got. Okay, so they're coming out. The M3 is going to be, I think, two or three nanometers. The M3 chips coming out in a year or two. Okay. Okay. It's going to be a lot more powerful. For you guys, I'll be great because you'll need it because of what you do.

Okay. And Eric, the only useful thing, Eric Davis, you know, Eric Davis, I have a fight with Eric. Who's Eric Davis? He's a physicist like me, except he's the second. rate physicists. He didn't go to Ivy League schools. He didn't have the, you know, he was a military guy and they said to, went to an Arizona. He went to a guy, you know, he's, but he's, he's, he's one of my competitors. Okay, is there schmock then? He's a schmuck, but he's all right. You know, I could, eventually all these guys, eventually all the, eventually all the, eventually

will probably all work together. Right. Yeah. It's like Donald Trump talking about, you know, who's the guy, the Texas Ted Cruz, remember when they were competing and then they suddenly were working together, right? Right, right. It'll have to have, because, Christopher Mellon and Louis Alizan, though, they won't have any choice because the physics, like Lawrence Livermore now saying Salfa... I mean, Eric Davis was going around saying Salfati's crazy, his physics doesn't work.

And meantime, he's pushing physics, which I know, Hal put us, physics doesn't work. So there's this conflict because they're trying to get money. See, it's a money thing. Follow the money. Okay? But now, if Lawrence Livermore, they're going to test.

So if the test works, that's proof of the concept. Then there's no question. So they're going to have to, you know, already, the fact that Lawrence Livmore is taking my work seriously, already Christopher Mellon, if he's smart, he'll come say, Jack, I'm sorry, let's shake hands, let's smoke the piecepipe, and let's start working together. You know, like, why can't we, you know, like RFK Jr. says, you know. All right. So, I mean, I attack them because they're assholes. They've attacked me. So I attack back 10 times worse.

Do you think there's a plan? Do you think there is like? There's no plan because everybody's stupid. There's no plan because nobody knows what's. The right hand doesn't know what the left. The right. That doesn't want left hand. And they're most inclusive,

but they don't know enough physics. The people in charge are stupid. I mean, they're not, you know, when they start listening to me, they'll get smart. Seriously.

There's nobody who knows more about this than I do. I mean, it could be 84 years old. You need to schmooze a little bit better. No, I can shmoo. Yeah, but I'm the eyeball. You know, fuck them. I don't care.

I mean, the Russians invite me to Moscow. Yeah. Didn't you say Putin sets of people here to talk to you? Yes, yes, yes, twice. Why did he do that? Because he wants to know this technology. Why did they invite me to Moscow a month ago?

I could show you the papers. I was writing to Moscow. This was when Obama was president. Before any of this war stuff, you know, we were still on friendly, you know, Hillary Clinton was going to Russia. Obama was talking to Putin. This is when Obama was the president, twice they came. And the first video, about a few months after they come and film me,

and Putin's talking about all the stuff I was talking to the Russians on the video, about quantum teleportation and this, and Russia's going to get the quantum computing. It's all, you know, it's all that. And then they came a second time. They came a second time in June of 2016 during the campaign. They wanted to talk about Donald Trump and Putin, because they knew I knew people who knew Trump.

you know, yeah, yeah. So that was just a political thing. And that's, you can see that on the video. It's on RT? No, I'll send you the link. Okay. It's on, no, it's Channel 5, St. Petersburg, which is owned by a close friend of Putin.

And I was told in so many words, they didn't say, I was told, basically they told me, elliptically, Putin monitors your stuff, Jack. They really like what you're doing in Moscow. And then I got invited to Moscow. I didn't go this time because of the war. Wow. All right.

So, you know, so the Russians are working. The Russians are working on this. And then, then I have this guy, this guy, do you watch History Channel? Not really.

Okay, yeah. You're about the Skin Walker Ranch? I know about it, yeah. Okay, well, you know, the physicists involved with the Skin Walker Ranch? I don't know the physicist themselves, no. Well, anyway, so any case, finally.

I've watched episodes of it. Yeah, actually, I've never watched it. I've only watched parts of it. I've watched Trevor a little bit. But I guess I'm told that that my, that a presentation about what I'm doing

is going to be given to the chief of staff of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, either maybe today or tomorrow or next week very soon. So the Senate, they're beginning to wise up. And then there was guy, the Angleton guy, who you could talk to.

He was trying to get, he spoke to the chief of staff, Marco Rubio, because he knows Marco, you know, the politics in Florida there. And they were supposed to contact me. They never did. And this guy was Nelson, the head of NASA. he was an astronaut once they were supposed to contact

they haven't yet and who else and then oh yeah and then Ron Pendolfi another CIA guy Yeah who's Ron Pendolfi Jeremy Rees mentioned that name to me Ron Pendolfi

I've known him now for you know almost 25 30 years Okay Ronnie and I know his brother I met his kid I know his kid and him Ronnie Pendalfi Okay he's

I guess in his 50s now maybe 60 or any or late 50s. Ronnie's uncle was some high CIA guy on one of the Pendlellan. They're like the Angletons. Not quite maybe, but yeah.

So when Ronnie went to UCLA, I think in physical chemistry about 1980 or so, got his PhD and his uncle Pendalfi already got him say,

come, in the CIA. So he rose pretty quick because he had PhD. He's a scientist. So he's the science technology directorate. And apparently he worked for Christopher Green. You've heard of Chris Green, right?

Christopher Green. He's the guy with the dead bodies, the aliens, and the guy with the blood with Gary Nolan giving them the, you know. Christopher, you just look, you've got to do your homework. Hal put off Chris Green. These are guys, I was,

they're the guys who engineered the New York Times article. with Leslie Keane. I was actually with them in London when they were doing it. What? Yes, yes. Chris Green?

Christopher Green. Yeah. Kit Green. They call them Kit Green. Okay. Anyway, keep going. I don't want to get you off track. I don't want to get you out track.

Yeah. Harold Chipman, it was called Chip. Okay. Oh, his CIA name was Orwell. Nice. Doing operations. I like that. Orwell.

Okay, I don't know what. And Christopher Green is Kit. Kit Green. Kit Green. Yeah. All the M-K-A-U-R-I, all this weird desk. So in any case, it's called the Weird Desk. And so when Ron goes into the CIA, his boss is Kit Green at the Weird Desk.

To evaluate all this UFO and all this paranormal stuff, you know, Bob Bigelow and all these things going on, you know, all this weird stuff going on. Orie Geller, all this stuff. And so they're all networks. So because of Ron's background. And also, Ron at some point, he's the guy or one of the guys that goes every morning to Reagan. And this was, he did it with Reagan and Bush, I think. And as far as I know, but anybody told me, Clinton and who was after Clinton? Obama?

And Trump. He would, one of the team that would frequently, I don't know if did it every day, he would go in in the morning, the national intelligence estimate to the President of the United States giving him the information sit there with the you know president all these presidents

Pendolfi wow my understanding whether it's true I'm you know this is why now maybe I'm a dummy maybe I don't know what I'm talking

but I'm saying this is what I was told okay by who by him well by him and by other people okay all right

so now so when when Trump was president okay so first of all Putin sends these guys they ask me in June, this is right before Trump's 70th birthday, he's a candidate. And the Russians asked me,

what do I think is Trump's attitude about NATO? What do I think is Trump's attitude to Vladimir Putin? They want to know what I think. You'll see it's in there. And what do I think about Israel, about Syria, about Iran? I don't know what they are.

I don't know. But they're asking me this for some reason. okay and I didn't I don't know what I said so well I was sorry I know this guy Michael Savage you know he's like uh you know he was like a right wing guy he's a close friend he's a friend of he's a Trump supporter and he goes to Mara Lago he's a yeah he's his family are very well they're billionaires and they fly the private jets when they flew me to Mara Lago all that stuff oh yeah so so the yeah so the yeah so the obviously the Russians know all this right these guys who came

because that was in 2011. They came in 20, yeah, came after that. It was already in Maralaka. So the Russians

monitored, they're smart. I have a friend in London, a friend in London who is Sandhurst. You know, Sanhurst,

you know, Sanhurst like the British West Point. And he was involved in the Army, the military intelligence, the British Army. He's a guy I have dinner with all the time.

I belong to a club, you know, all these guys belong to it, in London. And, When he was, and then when he left the army, he went into, he was a special branch of the London met. Special branch, okay? So part of his job, part of his job is when, you know, when Russians and people international to provide security for the Russians.

This is back, you know, like in the 90s, the 80s, 90s. And up until recently, I think. And so he was telling me, you know, the old, when the Russian intelligence, they have a, a word that this person, they have the term serious, I know what it is in Russian, but serious person. Serious person.

The schmuck and the serious person. Okay. The Russian don't fuck around. Okay. And this is guy, this English, this English officer, you know, telling me this. The Russians, Putin considers Sarfati a serious person.

Interesting. Okay. I got this bullshit from Chris Mellon who never took a physics, course. He didn't know what a black. He didn't know anything and I'm trying to explain stuff to him. And he's telling, he gets off telling me that don't be so sure about what you're saying. Now, it could be, he knows what I'm saying is right. He doesn't want people to know. See, there may be a legitimate reason he has. Or maybe they walked him into the belly of Area 51 and

they showed him exactly how it works. And they flew around in one of those things. They're too stupid. Did they know? Either that, okay, let me take the, but let me try to be positive. See, one thing, okay, I went to the ROTC at Cornell. It was in the ROTC. You know, everybody. had to be in the military in Cornell in the 50s. And one of the things is in the intelligence seminar. See, this is why people are really dumb.

You have to get into the mind of the enemy to understand their motivations. You know, be like you are. Any good cop knows it. A homicide detective. You get to, you know, get into the serial killer. You've got to think of it. Nobody's going to do.

Okay. Anticipate their next move. Yeah. Okay, right now, Christopher Mellon is an enemy of Jack Sarfati. Colonel John Alexander's enemy of Jacksafati. Eric, the enemy of Jacksafati. Got a couple of, Elizandro's enemy of Jacksafati. But I got to think.

I don't understand why they would want to be your enemy, though. Well, we argued over Donald Trump. That's a dumb reason. That's a dumb reason. But maybe, okay, now I'm going to try to be not hostile to them. I'm going to do it because I look at RFK, Jr. who's a, you know, I respect RFK Jr. Even though I may disagree with certain things about the vaccines.

I'm not sure. I'm not a medical person. I don't know. But RFK, I see RFK Jr. And I can vote Democrat for him. But, you know, but I see RFK Jr. This man is a thinking man. He's a serious person. He's an intellectual.

He's noble. You know, he's nobles. I mean, his family is sacrifice. And he's an intelligent man. He's open to reason and he's authentic. He doesn't bullshit around. And he's a polite man. He says, I will not say anything against any of my, you know, my competitors.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't like to talk shit about people. Yeah. And I won't say anything against Donald Trump. Right. Okay. And so, you know, so he's provided. That's not who you are, though.

No, I'm like Donald Trump. I make Donald Trump. Oh, yeah. You're throwing bombs every direction. I come out with all guns blazing. Yeah. Absolutely, man. I mean, I'm from Brooklyn. Yeah. New York Jew from Brooklyn.

You got, you're not old enough. And with the Jewish mafia yet, there's mafia connection. Right. There's all that stuff. Exactly. Exactly. All right. You know, I mean, you know, but, you know, my cops.

You got Hutzpah. I joke. You, you, you fuck around with the Salfati. I fuck you over 10 times. See, that's interesting about you because you're unlike any academic in that way. Yeah. That's why I quit. I couldn't stand them.

Yeah. That's why I quit. I quit academia 50 years ago. You feel that there's sort of. of like, uh... They're a bunch of pompous assholes. I mean, a lot of them are smart. I don't, you know, they do good work.

Right. Right. But they don't have... They're bubbles. And, you know, and a lot of them are idiots, too. But a lot of them aren't as, you mentioned... And a lot of them are communists. You mentioned this briefly earlier.

You said that, uh, you said, you were reading that quote out of the book over there. Yeah. Um, that they wanted scientists who weren't afraid to speculate. Oh, yeah. What I see... That's a CIA. That's a CIA. So what I see in academia and some of the most respected scientists and people in academia that are studying this stuff is they hate to speculate.

They don't like to talk about their feelings on things or their opinions on things because it can taint the science. It can taint the facts. And also there's another reason. The real reason. That's the public reason. That's their bullshit reason. Real reason is that they don't want to lose their grants. Right.

It's all, yeah. The real is, every academic I know basically, well, not every, but most of them, they're all prostitutes, they're all whores. They'll go with the money. And to some extent, I may be a whore too. I'm not saying I'm any better than them. Right.

But the thing is that that's the way it works. That's human nature. That's, now I'm like a Catholic. Now, if we believe in original sin, it's original sin, the Catholics are right. Right. It's original sin. Yeah, that's interesting.

We're all sinners. That's really interesting. Do you feel like kind of like an outcast of academia or an outcast of physics in general? Yes. Well, no, but I was an outcast by choice, though. By choice. I could.

I just, you know, I just to fuck you guys, I'm leaving. You know, and also, because I had the CIA, people were giving me money to, you know, Bob Tobin, starting with Bob Tobin. But, okay, I'm a Gilbert and Sullivan guy. You know, and Gilbert and Sullivan, there's this opera. called The Pirates of Penzance, which is actually a pretty good opera. And the story, I'm like the Pirate King and the Pirates of Penzance. The story is that these pirates were sinking ships and everything.

But what they all, they're all really members of parliament. It's all satire, right? Members of parliament who like rebelled. And because of the hypocrisy, the hypocrisy, there's a song, the pirate king, for I am a pirate king, and I sally forth to seek by prayer, I go forth in a royal way. I sink a few more ships is true than a well-bred pirate ought to do, but many a man on a first-class throne, if he wants to call his crown his own, must manage to get through more dirty work than ever I do. Okay, this is a good song. So I'm like the pirate king. And at the end of, of course,

opera, they all go back into the parliament, they take over the country. They take over the country. Right. So listen, I'm Ivy League. Yeah, I'm a pumping. I'm white privilege guy, you know, and Jewish to boat. I'm the words of, you know, definitely white privilege. You went to Ivy League school, but privilege, okay?

What else do they say about? I have toxic masculinity. Mm-hmm. I'm not woke. Yeah. And even we're going to take back the country. Yeah, you're right. You're radioactive to this.

I'm radioactive, man, to these. I'm radioactive. But you see, so that's the other side. But this is why it's easy for them to dismiss you also. Yes, because the Communist Party. Okay, now let me explain something. We were not going to get to politics, but there's no way to avoid it. Because the country, look, we're running on fumes.

The country's falling apart. Yeah. I'll be right here. All the homeless, if you go down, not where I am, but you go down a few. I'm shocked how a little homeless there is here in San Francisco. No, no. Everyone was telling me how much of a dystopian hellholds. Okay, but wait.

No, you don't understand. You're right now in a privilege. It's like futile. It's like you're right now in a privileged area of Sanford. Right. Sam Altman lives right next door to you. Sam Altman is my next door neighbor. Steve Jobs' widow has a place up not far from here.

There's all kinds of powerful people. Billionaires that live here. And, you know, I mean, if something happens here, if I call the cops and I say there's some, yeah, cops will be in two minutes. Right, right. All right. It's not that way in other, you know. So we're, as I say, as my friend, my Michael Corella, friend of Jerry Brown,

who's a philosophy professor at San Diego State when I was a professor at, he says, when booking passage on the Titanic, it's best to go first class. We are on the Titanic. I see, oh, I see the, hey, we better, we're going to go into that glacier, man, we're going to sink. Yeah. You know, but nobody's paying attention. The band that just play, you know, they're all of the stuff. So whatever.

Have you, getting back to the, the UFO stuff, have you heard about what Gary Nolan talks about in regards to the human brain? He talks specifically about, I think it's the basal ganglia. He did some, I know, okay, this is Gary, I'm not, I am, okay. So what he did was he studied a huge group of people and he found out that people. Oh yeah, they have certain structures. They have certain, they have extra structures in like the certain part of their brain. and those people are more in tune to the UFO phenomenon.

Yeah, they contact tease. So, yeah, okay, so you see that. Okay, I believe, okay. First of all, I'm not a medical person. I don't know anything about, I know certain things, and I know, see, a smart man, and when we learned a PhD,

but a PhD does, you don't know everything, but you know when you don't know. Right. And you know how to get information to find out as much, you know, that's the talent. That's what a PhD level means. And guys like Chris Smellon,

they don't know that. Louis Al-Zar. They're lower level. I mean, they don't respect, they don't realize they should respect the Salfati.

But in any case, but that's what I was telling about Walter Breen in the crash. I think it's Roswell, let's assume it's the Roswell crash. And then he claims he suddenly got superpowers.

So that's consistent that something happened. They zapped him and he got these powers. So probably his, okay, Uri Gala, same thing you have with Uri Gala. Uri Gala,

Bima White went into his head, when he was five, six years old, around the same time I was getting my phone calls, maybe a few years difference. And then he got the power to bend the metal, he claims. And then there's this guy at the time who witnessed this, was a young soldier, about 19 years old Israeli defense soldier, who saw this happen,

saw the thing come down, the Orba light and Zap Geller, who later came out only recently. He was in the general in the Mossad and the IDF, saying, yes, now I didn't want to say, until I retired, but he witnessed this incident with the Regella. Okay? So everything that Gary Nolan says, and I accept Gary Nolan's expertise, I don't know what he knows. Angle that mic that way a little bit.

Towards you. Just grab it and turn like that. Okay. Can you hear me? Yeah, we're just trying to optimize. So the answer is I support whatever Gary Nolan says in his field. I don't know if he supports me because he works with Chris Mellon. Anyway, so.

Gary Nell has to decide which side he's a. I used to get the sides to come together. Yeah. So, yeah. So going back to that, there's also a connection to like paranormal shit too. Well, that's what I'm telling you. Yeah. So in his studies, it was not just people who were able to experience or witness these UFOs.

It was also the same people had more paranormal experiences. Of course. Like I have had. Like you have had. Well, I just tell you all this weird shit that's happening. Right. Right. That's paranormal.

Yeah, that's kind of paranormal. But like if you listen, I don't know if you've ever heard Bob Bigelow talk about poltergeist. Of course. He talks about like hearing poltergeist in his house and seeing ghosts. Yeah. Okay. And it's not just him as John Ramirez. It's a CIA guy's John Ramirez.

And remote viewing shit. Yeah. Well, I remote viewing. That's what the, that's what Hal put off in Russell Tar and the remote viewing. I know someone that is real because I experienced that with Marshall Nafia. I was like literally back in ancient Egypt. Yeah. You were taking LSD.

Yeah. Yes. And I was there. I mean, it was like, you know, it was like spectacular VR. I mean, it was, I don't think my brain, my brain is that good. I could do that. God. But, you know, it was like I was there. It was mental time travel. Fred Allen Wolf has written a book about this by mental. His experience on the psychedelic Spakasa. He went, you know, with the shamans in South America. You should read his book. He talks about it. And then it's in the Gladstone talks about it there, his trips. But I actually, with Marshall Navy, I went back, I was in some ancient Egyptian emerald temple. Emerald temple. An emerald temple. Wow. Yeah, with these like the gods of Egypt, the ancient gods of Egypt. I was with them.

And they're like coming back. They're like ETs. So it could have been a real contact. And then I was also a knight's templar. And I got, oh, I got the spear. I got the spear in my leg or something. Like the spear on Jesus or something. I remember it's on the battlefield with the spear.

Oh, and then I was on the spear. was also a soldier in World War II in the trenches and got killed. Oh, wow. So these are LSD experiences. Wow. So I was like somebody else's mind, okay? Yeah. Okay, so this is real.

And this only happened with Marshall Navy, who's a very unusual guy, who made, by using his psychic powers, he died, I guess, in 1980 with about worth $4 billion, which, you know, not as much of some of these guys out, but back then, this pre-internet, you know, all this crazy stuff. What is your opinion on some of the work John Mack has done? Oh, yeah. Okay.

Oh, in fact, I know a kid. In fact, what? I know this kid. These are UFO experiencers, these abductees. Yeah, yeah, I know John Mack. He's a friend of mine. I knew him. You knew him personally?

Yes. He's part of the whole thing. Right. Of course. Of course. We're all kidding. What is your opinion on everything he's done in specific? Like, it seems like there's more.

I support 100%. It seems like there's more of these sightings around schools involving young young children. Well, that's what happened to me. They want to teach it to a young receptive mind so they can instill with their stuff. Yeah, of course. The answer is yes. Everything's and John, I still think, although I get a lot of pushbacker, I still think that John was assassinated. I was with John right before he went to London and got himself killed in San Francisco here. And he had just come off the Caribbean, he was on a yacht with Werner Earhart, one of the guys who had funded me. There's a whole thing here.

Really? Yeah. And he was going, and you see, John was also, he had double life. John, you know, got like a Pulitzer Prize. Right. For T.E. Lawrence, biography, Lawrence of Arabia. Lawrence of Arabia. Okay.

Separate from his. And John was going, went up to Oxford and Cambridge to give a seminar on Lawrence of Ray. He was getting a prize of Lawrence Arabia. And when he came back, it was midnight. and I know the area it's this big street it's a well-lit street I mean come on it's a well-lit street

it was no traffic and this guy from Czechoslovakia said he was drunk a truck an immigrant from Czechoslovakia and a truck runs him down come on now and they said you know so he looked the wrong way

they said look the wrong but which happens but this is a broadly like a boulevard bright lights and he was right across the street so even a truck could have seen him a mile away the guy said he was drunk this was an assassination

because I'm pretty sure and I don't care what his family and these assholes tell me no don't say that I'll say I think he was assassinated because he was involved in intelligence operations John know all these Harvard these are all part of the CIA stuff

so God oh yeah he would and he was about something with the Islamist revolution and things going on around that time so I think he was hit also I have another friend who was in the French intelligence who was assassinated

in the same way that Harold Chipman was. The guy from the French intelligence. Jean-Rézanne Nadal, who I knew, and who was actually working with Francois Truffo, Transva Truffo, who played the French scientist, who plays Francois Truffo plays Jacques Valet in close encounters of the third kind, where I got Valet into the Hollywood connection

through the party that Francis Coppola gave at his house in 1976 with Spielberg and all these guys. Sikennis, all these guys were there, and that's how he connected. But Francois Truffo was involved in an intelligence operation with my French friend, Jean Nadal, who was, I knew in San Francisco, and I'm not going to go into everything. He was working for the French CIA,

and he had found some stuff connected with people, and, you know, maybe the Russians, I know, something he had found out. Oh, yeah, they were going to assassinate. This is 1977. There was a plot to assassinate Nelson Rockefeller, who was still alive. Rockefeller died. And there was something. The union, it was all the kind of stuff.

Any case, he and Truffo knew about it. And this was when we were up, oh, this was when we were up in the apartment. I still had the apartment opposite that Lawrence Rockefeller was paying for our PCRG apartment. It's in hippie-safeas. And Jean is up there, and John says, he feels his life is in danger, this information. And he says, if something happens to me, and he's holding my arm.

He says, if something happens to be, please, you know, investigate it. A year goes by, I get, somehow somebody tells me, oh, my French friend, another French friend of mine, Michelle, my friend Michelle, who's far as a general of the French army. I hang out with all these guys and he says Jean Nadal is being buried in Paralachet Cemetery

sudden cancer I was a little polonia I'm sure it was polonium poisoning yeah he was killed the same way Harold Chipman was killed Francois Truffo died suddenly not too long just look and see how when Truffo died

okay so there so yeah guys get whacked have gotten whacked and this fits right in what Grush is saying too that member david gruce was talking about yeah yeah yeah so i don't know what did he say about people getting whacked well i don't know because i you heard but he didn't say much because he can't say but i don't was he implying it's the cia killing people or his our own guys killing them or the right

who knows who i don't know what do you think about what he said about there's actual bodies that we have possession of bodies yeah well i know that i mean that's what that's you know it well i don't know it for sure i haven't seen the bodies but i know it from uh uh Because I believe what Colonel Corso said. Colonel Corso said he said, and other people said. I don't know that direct. I haven't seen it myself. But Kit Green basically says it.

So I believe Kit Green. I know Kit Green. Do you think they're planning on disclosing it to the public eventually? Or do you think they're just going to hide it forever? It's already been disclosed. Right now, that's what the war is about now, right? It's reality war. It's a war on reality?

There's a war. I call reality war. Right? Yeah. We don't know what's real. This deep fakes, what? You could do a deep, you know, deep fakes. I could have anybody saying anything they want.

Yeah. Okay. So I am a reality, I am a puppet master to some extent. Because of my intellect and because of my education, seriously, and I see big pictures, I'm putting together a narrative. I'm giving you my narrative. Right. Okay.

Like, okay, what we are, we're still cavemen. We're back in the cave. We're around the campfire, right? Right. We're telling you so with the marchant to come in. You know, the boogeyman's going to come in here. But we're still, though, we're like apes. We're intelligent apes.

We're still sitting around. Everything depends on stories. We've all been sold stories. I'm giving you my story. I'm shaping a narrative, the Sarfati narrative, what reality is. You could take it or leave it. Of course, I could be wrong. There's what's called uncertain knowledge.

All we can do is take pieces of information and then we try what's called, oh, an artificial intelligence is a landscape and you optimization. This is what the computer. This is what AI, what Sam Altman's algorithms are doing. I'm like an algorithm. We're all algorithms, but we're conscious algorithms. And we're doing exactly what it is. You know, we're trying to optimize. We have all these pieces of information.

Any piece by itself is very uncertain. And we're trying to make a coherent story out. I'm giving you the Sarfati story, which I think, and I could be wrong, and I'm willing, as new information comes in, I change my story. I adapt to new information. I weigh it. It's called Bayesian probability. It's a very good way of putting it. Yeah.

And that's, I'm giving you what I think is the best optimum fit to all the data that I have. What is the best storyline? What's the best narrative to get a coherent understanding? of reality. Now, if somebody else, I welcome anybody to come, and you tell me your story of these events. You tell me, get this guy, Nick West.

He thinks he knows, he's a schmuck. All he does is look at the, at the Fravor video, the Tick-Tac video. Yeah. Okay, I don't care. He may be right about that. I don't give a damn where that video is real or not. That's one little piece of data

over a vast thing of data, and we can throw that out, and there's still plenty of convincing information. Right. Okay. that fits, plus I have the physics to explain it. See, that's what I have that they don't have. They're still thinking of things going through air and stuff like that.

They don't know. What about the idea that a lot of these UFOs are living under the oceans? Oh, yeah. I've got to know true. You know that's true, too. I've got to be careful now. I have to be very careful. Now I'm like David Gush, because I've been told classified information

not from the American government, from a different government. I've been told classified information where if I say too much I've got to be very careful that a guy I work with are getting a lot of trouble so I'm like David Grushy in this thing

I'm in the same position Grushes and got to be you know just real not that I would maybe I would get in trouble to it I don't know but the answer is yes I know for sure

I have all kinds of details and I even know where in one case but I don't want to go into it because until he this guy decides to come public the answer is yes I know a tremendous amount about it

and the answer is yes yes yes 500 miles yeah yeah yeah a lot in fact most of maybe the base yeah they're basically yeah they're coming yeah they definitely and yeah very very much so and I have privy information what government

that would give it away can you tell me what government it's not is it not the U.S or is it oh I can say it's not the U.S. It's not the U.S. That's it is all I'm going to say Diving into culture and comedy, like on Danny Jones podcast, playoff hockey is right up your alley. NHL on T&T has the best coverage, making every game feel intense and unpredictable.

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Yeah, well, yeah, he's a military. Oh, it's a military program. Military program. And this guy was trying to figure it out, reverse engineer it. He had it. every day. They go in every day to work. So these things that are underwater are military things?

No, they're not our military things. They're not our military. No, no, no, no, no. We're talking about E. We're talking about N.A. We're talking about N.A. We're talking about anything Grush is talking about. Okay.

Okay. Talking about the same thing. Phil Korsso and Rick Doty talk about. Rick Doty, if you go look at my stuff. Rick Doty, Air Force Intelligence. is retired. People don't like them, but I like them. And Rick Doty talks about the same machine,

kind of machine that Phil Koso talks about, that my guy worked on, may not be the same kind of machine. I'm not saying it's the actual same machine. Same kind of machine. My guy worked on that's identical, okay? And the machine is real. and it was a at a u.

all i say is a u.s military base i know where that base is i don't think the machine the machine may not be there now this was years ago but i have a good guess where it is now at least where one of these machines are now which i cannot say is this machine recovered or is this machine it's intact it's operational is it wasn't reverse engineered it was recovered yeah no this is a this is a actual

machine. This is, yeah, I don't know how they got it. This is what? Maybe it's the Roswell? They know something else. Something else landed. It was let. They said they found it.

Remember what gruesome? Somebody said, they're like 12 or 30 of them. They're a bunch of them. Going back to the 30s. Yeah. That's Italy. That's my Italian friends. Right.

They have the access to all those records, the Mussolini records. Speaking of Doty, I was just watching. I just watched my first ever, the guy you punched in the face, or almost punched in the face. Oh, Stephen Greer. Stephen Greer. I didn't punch him by. Yeah, we were getting to the point.

He would have killed me. He's big, his musket. I'm a little Jewish schmuck. Yeah, he's like Charles. He's like the Hulk. He's on steroids. Yeah. Is he on steroids?

He probably looked like he was. And he's goofy. That would explain a lot, would it? So he, in one of his documentaries, I was watching on YouTube, he was asking Richard Doty about false flag operations. And Richard Doty's like, I can't talk about that. That's too classified.

Yeah. No, there are false flag operations. Latest one is January 6th, but I won't get it to happen. So when it comes to UFO stuff? Yeah, there are a lot of false flags, sure. What's the point of that? Well, now you're asking me stuff that I don't, yeah, as a physicist, I don't really care. There are a lot of stupid schmucks who are in the intelligence agencies.

They're idiots like John Brennan. You know, we have these incompetent idiots who never should have gotten there. Some of the communist moles like James Jesus Angler, and they have all seen, you know, we can't handle it, whatever they, whatever reasons they have. Some of them because they were working maybe for the Soviet intelligence, they didn't want us to know. Who the hell knows? People have different motives for being idiots and for keeping the truth. Yeah, what does RFK say?

Say what R.K. Jr. says, you know, there's a lot of evil people, stupid people, and they have different motives for being evil and keeping the truth from the public. Right now we're being kept from the truth. It's like Orwell, right? 1984. I see stuff, and yeah, I'm a subscriber to the London Times, the New York Times. I see stuff what they're saying, and then I see stuff from intelligence people I know. It's just opposite.

You know, the London Times radio say, oh, you know, Ukraine's winning, Ukraine's winning. You look at the map. Ukraine's not winning, everything, you know, all this stuff. I mean, and it's just the opposite. That's a crazy thing about the media. I have firsthand knowledge of an exam. of the New York Times, I don't know if it was the New York Times or one of the big, it was one of the top two, three biggest newspapers in the country. A friend of mine, Jack Murphy, who's an ex-Army Ranger. He's now a journalist and he reports on different sort of like military stories. Kind of like the subculture of the military and reports on corruption and stuff. He's based in New York. He was working on a big story for over a year about the CIA using, a NATO proxy spy service to do sabotage operations in Russia,

blow up railroad tracks, burn down ammunition warehouses and stuff like that. Nordstream pipeline. That wasn't part of this, but this was... Yeah, but this was... It was before that. It was sabotage operations, where the CIA would not be legally allowed to be doing that. Yeah. And so they're using a NATO ally.

So this big article that he wrote, this big story... How many years ago was this? This was this past year. Oh, this past year. Or this was 2022, rather. last year. So it could have been the pipeline. Was that just now,

recently pipeline? The pipeline was also, I think, last year. Yeah. No, maybe it was the beginning of 203. I think it was 2020 with the pipeline. The beginning of 2020. Well,

they did the pipeline too. So maybe. Anyways, the point is he was getting ready to publish this big story with one of these top three newspapers in the U.S. And right before they pressed the button,

his editor at that newspaper said, hey, we got to get on the call with the CIA deputy director. Yeah, of course. And he got a three-way call with the deputy director of the CIA. And he said, no, this is completely false. He's like, this is not true. We don't know what to believe.

So he said, we're not going to, we can't verify this at all. So he said, okay, that's fine. We'll put it. They call that. There was a book about that. There's a movie about it too. What they call that when they crush a story. There's a term.

Well, here's what happened. He said, okay, fine. we're just going to put that in a footnote to the story that you denied all this stuff that you said it's false right so it's like great

they got off the phone whatever they hung up the phone the story never got published he called his editor at that newspaper the next day he's like what's the deal

like we're not going to publish the story because the deputy director of the CIA has an off-the-record agreement so if they don't agree with it it just doesn't get published yeah so it's bullshit

it's crazy no it's not great we're living in a banana republic there is no real freedom in America anymore. We are no different from Russia, except we're a little more subtle. And we're getting less subtle about it.

The Bindens are getting unsubtle. Well, I mean, technically, it's not like he didn't have the freedom, and he was able to self-publish it in his own website. It's just that publisher. Right, exactly. It's a form of suppression.

Yeah, they're suppressing the information. And yeah, we're living, and it's getting worse. We're losing our constitution of the Bill of Rights. We're losing it. But RFK Jr., And R.K. Jr. says it, look, they're doing it to him. Yeah.

So, I mean, I would definitely, if Trump is eliminated, it looks like he will be now with all this. I don't know. I think this stuff, all this, these indictments, I think these are helping him. Well, it'll help, yeah. But the point is they may also rig the election, you know, we don't know that. You know, with that there's ways that when I say rigged the election, they can also not just changing the votes and fake votes, but through the algorithms of Google and stuff like that. You know, like they suppress the information on a hunter laptop. Things like that. Right, right. And through the media.

And through all the... I see the Times radio in UK, London, and I'm a subscriber. And I used to read it. I still read it for other things. But they're giving totally opposite picture from what Colonel McGregor and other people I know are saying. And then you look at the map. There's an objective you can see. Institute for the Study of War, which is, I think, a British think tank.

I'm not sure. Maybe it's just Washington. And they show, you know, the front line. and they show what's being contested. You know, like how much Russia has, what the Ukrainians are trying to have. And you see, they haven't, since the beginning of the offensive, they haven't done anything.

But they've killed hundreds of, you know, I don't know how many tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers. It's a meat grinder. Right. It is. Yeah, it really is. You know, so it's terrible. It's all because Biden got bribed by Oly Cox who gave Hunter millions of dollars.

Mm-hmm. Because the country. we're falling apart. If you want to keep your funding, you better shut up about politics, Jack. Well, yeah, no, but that doesn't see, that doesn't, that doesn't, right.

Actually, it seems that my funders like what I'm doing in that regard. Right. Okay. Well, good. You don't have to worry about being a scientific prostitute. No, but, but of course the enemy,

they could, you know, hit by a car. Right. Right. I mean, you know, so. I don't want that to happen, so. Well, you know, hey, I'm right now, I'm 84.

I'm going to be a, K-sar-serrah, maybe the stuff, maybe they're protecting me, too. I hope so. You try to kill Salfati, you get zapped by a UFO. You know what I mean? Are you familiar with what Eric Weinstein said recently about,

he was talking a lot about Ed Witten, and he was saying that people like Ed Winton aren't even within striking distance of this anti-gravity technology. And Eric's opinion was that this whole Tick-Tac thing and all these congressional hearings are a smokescreen. Yeah, because Eric's an idiot. And Eric, he's angry with me now because I told me was an idiot. I didn't say it's somebody.

No, Eric's a smart guy. Eric is what Einstein called an intelligent fool. Okay. I know I grew up with Eric's all my life. Eric, he's a, he's very smart Jewish guy, like a rabbi. He's got Kravitas. He's got Knavathas. and he hangs out with, you know, with all these,

with Ellen Musk, Ray and Lex Fried. He's part of that little Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel, and he hangs out, and they respect him, but, you know, he's smart. I know people who have known pretty well, and his theory is no good. He has this geometric unity theory. You know, he's a mathematician trying to do physics. He's very smart, but he has no physical intuition.

and he's like Louis Elizander with a PhD. Now, he'll be able to debate him any time, you know. He has to say he's seven time dimensions and this and that. And it's a, by what he says about Eric, about Whitten is true. Witton doesn't have a clue because Witton's not interested. But I don't think Witton, you know, his father was interested. But Louis Witton was part of that Wheeler group, you know. Right.

But I don't think Ed is... And Ed Witton... Okay. And then... Ed Witten to Eric Weinstein's like, God, he's so powerful. But actually, Ed, I don't see why everybody thinks Ed Witten is so great. I mean, he's done... He's a mathematician.

He's done some... But he hasn't done. There's no physics there. He hasn't predicted anything to be tested. So it's a false idol. As far as I can see... And I could be wrong. But Ed Witton is like the golden calf.

Eric Davis worshipping the golden calf. What has Ed Witten done that has affected technology that has led to an experiment that can be Papa falsified? Like what I have here, you know, they're testing an equation here and it's either going to work or not work. It can be Papa falsified. So from what I can see is that Ed Witten has done some. very beautiful mathematical art, but it's conceptual art. I don't see any physics there. It's a nothing burger in terms of physics. Interesting. Now, I could be wrong, and I would love if Ed Witton wants to come on with you, and if Eric Davis want to come on, and if they want to teach me, why,

see, if I'm wrong. Eric Weinstein, you mean? Huh? Eric, what is they were saying Davis. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I got Eric Davis on them, Wayne. So the thing is, now, that would be very interesting. They would come on and, and, tell me what is it that I'm missing. And if I'm wrong, I have no problem saying I'm wrong. Okay, guys, you're right. I adapt. Right.

So what was going on in the 50s with his dad, Lewis Witton, when he was studying anti-gravity and everything all of a sudden is. I don't know. There was sky back. Everything went dark out of nowhere. Yeah. No, the point, because they failed. They didn't do anything.

Because you want to know if they succeeded. I know, I know Wheeler. I know Kip Thorne would know all these guys. But guys are I know. If we had. this stuff back in the 50s, we'd be flying it around. Now, why are we flying, why are you spending money on jets? Well, maybe these things are ours. No, they're not ours. Definitely not ours. That's clear. Don't even say that. That's kind of, I mean, there's no way that Ryan Graves,

that Grush and all these Navy pilots that they're, that at this point 20 years later, if it was ours, we would be, okay. And if it was Russia's, Putin would be using it in Ukraine right now. Are you kidding? But if it was ours, why wouldn't we test it against our most elite Navy fighters. Yeah, but why are we using it? How do you know we're not using it? We're not using it. There's footage of them over in the Middle East.

Yeah, but they're not, well, no, they would use it. It would come out. The Congress doesn't know who provides the money. It's not out. Right, but some of these companies like Battelle Institute. Now, they're all stupid. You've got to understand. They're all engineers.

They're smart and what they do. They don't understand what I'm talking about. They don't understand general relativity. They don't understand it. They know the mathematics. See, there's a thing that different layers. there are plenty of guys who have done good work in the theory, in the mathematics and general relativity, that they don't understand the physics behind what they're doing.

They can't relate their math really to physics because they don't really understand it. Okay, that's why they haven't done anything. Now, I would love to be proved wrong, but I don't think I'm wrong. I have enough experience. I sort of know how things work. We don't have it. If we had it, after 70 years, we'd be using the damper. We wouldn't be spending almost a choice.

billion dollars a year on obsolete military technology, which is no good. Maybe we would because if we would, if we are, then all these 44 four-star generals, all these secretary's defense, they should all be court-martialed, their pensions taken away and tried for treason because they've been keeping the real stuff from the, you know, jeopardizing the defense of the United States. And I'll tell you one thing, if Putin had it, he wouldn't keep it secret. Why the fuck would they invite me to Moscow if they had it? Why they need me for? They don't have it.

There's the proof. I mean, you got to, you know, have a little bit. Right. Like, yeah, they're sechal, you know, a little common sense. They don't have it. Nobody has it except I may have it. I have some of it. I certainly have some of it, okay?

And I'm the only one who has it. And I'd love somebody to prove me wrong. Show me, you know? So, and Eric Weinstein, he's a big poo ball with Lex Friedman. And Elon Musk, who's kind of, him a schmuck too. I'm not like Ealing, but he's a schmuck. He's putting all his money into rockets, and

he's going a little bit crazy. He's a little bit of sugar. You know, when he talks on the street, sounds worse than Trump whatever was, you know? He's going to be boxing Mark Zucker. Anyway, he wants to box him. I'm in box Zucker.

Would you box Eric Weinstein? No, I'm 84 years old. I can't have I, yeah, if I was maybe 24, I would. That's stupid. You know, they're stupid. They're smart in many ways, but they're stupid and many other ways.

And that's why I'm saying Sarfadi Space Corporation is going to kick the ass of SpaceX. Because we're going to show that every... And then you should use the graphics. Now we're going to show that all the rocket technology that SpaceX is using. It's brilliant to engineering.

Great. You know, the thing comes down. But we don't need any of that. It's dumb. It's a, you know, it's... You want to get to Mars? It's like crawling. on your knees to get to Mars. We'll get to Mars in what?

Half hour. We get to Mars. You step through the warp drive. Yeah. If you get there and maybe through a wormhole, you may just step through the doorway like in Doctor Who and you wind up here on Mars. How do we go through a wormhole? We just walk through it.

How do you walk through it? How do we make one? Well, how do we make it? That's what the experiment. I want to put speed. We put speed bumps. That's Sam and his Lamborghini. No, no, no, it's some asshole in a motorcycle.

But the point is this, that the experiment that they're going to do at Lawrence Livermore, testing that equation, is the first step toward making a wormhole. If that works, then we, you know, we've now, if it doesn't work, we have to go back to the drawing board, see why it didn't work. So it's called, it's manipulating the fabric of space time. Anything you, you know, you warp, you change the shape of the gravity. Fidivis, it's a wormhole. So, at Lawrence Livermore, they're going to test your equation. Yeah. They're testing one version.

There's a simplified toy model. They're not testing the general theory. They're testing a particular application of the general theory based on certain assumptions that are very simple, for a homogeneous plasma, for simple, it's not a metamaterial. Metameterial is more complicated. Minimaterial is not homogeneous, it's not isotropic, and it's changing time. This is for a plasma, a heavy ion plasma. You read their paper, and they're testing it to see if it works there.

Okay. And if it works, then it's a sufficient proof of concept. If it doesn't work, it's not good, but it's also, we've learned some, that that particular application of the general theory is the wrong way to go. At least it doesn't work for a plasma. Okay. So they've tested some of it. Now, what they're testing, they got this huge machine,

and they got these beams of heavy ions. They're smashing them together in like a tenth of a millionth of a cubic meter. A tiny little volume bubble. And they're going to create a gravitational field that's 16,000 times the Earth's... In other words, you would weigh. If you were in the little guy in the bubble, your weight would be 16,000 times your Earth weight. Wow. 16,000.

What would that do to time? Well, that's a good question. But, and it's going to, yeah, that's a very good question, actually. It'll be a time distortion maybe. Actually, thank you. I'll calculate that. But I was worried about whether it would make a black hole, which might be bad. Haven't they already made a black hole in a lab?

No, no, no. They've done what I call simulations where they simulate. It's like a computer simulation of a black hole. metamaterials, but there's not a physical black hole. This would be a physical black hole. So I check, it turns out, even with their tremendous energies, what they're doing, it's nowhere near a black hole. But it is 16,000 EarthG, and the curvature, what's called the curvature, is 10 to the 22 times the curvature at the surface of the earth. Now, the earth makes a certain curvature here. It's very weak. It's like, it turns out it's very weak. But this is 22 powers

are 10 stronger curvature, according to the numbers that they've calculated. But it's still not a black hole. It doesn't make a black hole. So we don't have to worry about that. Okay. You explained a little bit about the, when we were talking about the warp drive, that you would need very little power. Yeah.

So we do it with a, should we try? Yeah. Should we try? Okay, let me see. Do I have, hang on in a minute. Okay. Can you see this? Tell me if you see this.

Yes. Yep. Do you see the whole? Hold that. It's going to fall. I don't know what happened. Okay. Hit it.

Okay. So you see this? Nope. You got it too. All right. Okay. This is Einstein's gravity field equation. Okay.

Okay. And you see that thing called a capital G divided by C to the fourth? Mm-hmm. Okay. That's the coupling. Capital G is what's called Newton's constant of gravity. the little C in the denominator there to the fourth power, that's the vacuum speed of light.

Okay. Okay. Now, just mathematically, now, guys, you have to know some math, high school math. If you let that C in the denominator get small, okay, if you let the number get small, then that coefficient G over C to the fourth gets bigger. If you let the denominator go to zero,

eventually you go to zero, That's infinity. One over zero is infinity. So in general, if you haven't been totally dumbed down by the Communist Party making Americans stupid, oh, what do I say, now math is gender, math is white privilege? Don't teach math because you make blacks look dumb?

And what the fuck are you? I mean, you're out of your fucking minds? Yes, you are. You, you broke bastards. Fuck them. Oh my God. No, but seriously, they're making us stupid.

Uh-huh. Russians are laughing at us. Yeah. Yeah, well, critical race theory, bullshit. You're the real racist. We're not the racist. Assholes. All right, so what the hell does this mean?

Well, here the speed is 300,000, 300 million meters per second. But the point is inside the meta material, it's not really the speed, but it's as if the speed is being going down to zero. And since the speed is going down to zero, the coefficient itself is getting big. So, this is the warp field. This is the gravity field you want

to control. Oh, lift it up. Lift it up higher. Okay. The G. The G, the big G, mu-nu, that's the warp field. Okay. Okay. Okay. Got it. Okay. This is the energy needed, the power. The T, the big capital T, that's the energy needed. Okay.

Okay. So you want to have, you want to have for the Tic Tac to do whatever it's going to do, it requires a certain amount of G. Whatever that is G. You keep that fixed. Okay. You make the effect of C a lot smaller.

And since G is fixed and this is getting bigger, the coefficient is getting bigger, that gets small. That's the idea. This is the amount of energy you need. So it's only because, it's only because G was small and C was so big,

that they couldn't get it to work. But in the metamadil, you can make the effect of C very small, and then you get the amount of G you need for a very small amount of energy. It's just math. It's the math of a hyperbola. You get that? You know?

And you see, the fact that most people can't get that is why America is going down. Because, but see, the Russians, the Chinese kids get it. The Russian kids, For them it's nothing. But for most Americans, it's something. And that's why we have been defeated and we're going to be defeated. Can you give me a beautiful analogy to understand that?

No, no, no. This is what the... Higher, a little bit higher. Z equals X, Y. Hold it up higher. Z equals X, Y, right? Okay. Okay.

So you want to have Z fixed. So this is, okay, you want to have a fixed Z. You want to fix Z. You can't hear you because you're not talking to the mic. Okay. This is the basic, this is Einstein's equation in the simplest terms. Okay. Z equals X Y.

Z equals X Y. What is Z? Z is the gravity field. Z is the gravity field. It's the warp field. That's the propulsion field that you want. Okay. The Tick-Tac warp field is Z.

Okay. Okay. Y is the energy you need, the power. You know, the, how much voltage. Okay. V's the volts. The power. How big a battery you need is why.

Okay. Okay. X involves that capital G over C to the fourth power the coupling. That's the coupling.

The transmission. That's the transduction how an input, Y is the voltage input and then, you know, okay, do you know Oms law? The resistance?

Okay, if you have a voltage and if you increase the resistance, you get a smaller current. But if you, if the same voltage. But if I low, the resistance like a superconductor, I get a bigger current, right? So in the same way here,

what we're doing, the whole trick is with the meta material, we're making X big, Z. Can you see this? No, yeah, now we can see it. Well, the trick is you keep Z fixed. Z is how much warp power do you want? How much warping of the space time do you want? That's Z. You keep that fixed because there's certain about you want to escape the earth, let's say. Okay. I'm over so. Okay. And Why is how much voltage you need on your Tesla battery inside the UFO? How much power? How many, you know, what do they go? Oh, kilowatts of power.

You know, what do they call it? You know, you buy the battery less a certain number of miles. Yeah. Okay. So that's that. That's what Y is. How big a battery? How big does Elon Musk have to make your battery?

How much range do they get in these UFOs for that? Well, wait a minute. First, let's just get the idea. Okay. Don't ask me. I'm just making an analogy now. Don't take it too literally. So now, and X,

X is the company. That's where the meta material comes in. When we make X big, we make X big keeping Z fixed. So you make X big keeping Z fixed. That means Y gets less. Why is it amount of battery power? Ah, I got it.

Okay, so that's the idea. That's the trick. That's the idea of warp drive. So what the point is, everybody, all these smart assholes, like Ed Witten, they think that you can't change X. They can't change X.

They say X is fixed. You can't do anything about it. That's why they don't believe any of this. They don't think you change X. What is X again? X is the coupling of the voltage to the warp drive. Okay. Okay.

Okay. What is X is like, X is the engine. Okay, X is the engine. X is the engine. I understand that. Okay. So, okay, it's like the horsepower of the engine.

Okay. Okay. And why is how much gasoline you need? Okay, how much gas? Oh, okay. Got it. Okay. So the higher...

Okay, no, no. X is the efficiency of the engine. The efficiency. The efficiency, you know, the efficiency. The more efficient the engine, the, for the certain amount of horse, this is like the amount of horsepower. Okay. The horsepower is like the warp.

Okay. So, so as you make the engine more efficient, you need less, fuel to get the amount of horsepower, right? Or something like that. Right. Maybe that violates energy concentrate. I'm trying to make analogies.

People get it. But the point is, look, it's simple mathematics. As Z is fixed, you make X big for Z fixed, why get small? Okay, there's a graph. It's called a hyperbola. Okay, let me just draw a graph. this is X and this is Y

and I'll make it red and this is called this is Z fixed this is it man this is it so a little higher this is for fixy

that red curve is called the curve of hyperbola okay you can see which way so when X is getting small what does it mean for X to get small X to get small you're moving toward the origin this is zero right uh-huh X is getting small

so it goes X and and Y is going up there Y is the or the other way around I have the other round fix it okay yeah yeah yeah I want it go the way around

I want okay no I'm sorry no X starts off small I gotta just X X starts off here and X is going there so Y

is getting small why is the amount is the amount of energy you need. Okay. That's it. So that's basically this curve. It's the curve hyperbola. That's it.

Curve hyperbola. Yeah, this is hyperbola. See, now this is, I want to tell you something. In Russia and in China, even in, they used to be, I don't know if in France, the kids learn this when they're 10 years old.

The 10-year-old kid, your kid should be knowing this by now, by the time of 11 or 12, for sure. Oh, okay. Okay. And the fact that most Americans don't know this is why, we're going under. This is the biggest national security threat is that the average American kid,

like you guys who are pretty smart, don't know basic mathematics. And that's why the Congress doesn't know it. Who the ever said? Oh, okay, the CIA director now is a PhD in physics, actually. Oh, yeah. Who's the CIA director right now? That woman, I forgot a name. Is it a woman right now? It's a woman, yeah, and she's a Ph.D. In physics, though she's not doing. So she may already understand this. You know, I don't know. Maybe she's keeping secret.

But she should, you know, she could understand this in two seconds. Who is the current CIA director? The current, William Burns is the current CIA director. Okay, no, oh no, the DCI, the National Intelligence Director. Okay. Who's that, is that a woman? What's it called DCI director? The National Intelligence, Directorate, Directorate at National.

National Intelligence, National Intelligence Directorate or something. Yeah, she's like the boss, you know, the scent. Oh, yeah, Averill Haynes. Aval Haynes. Look at her. She's a PhD in physics. Oh, wow. Okay.

So Aval Haynes should be calling Jack, not in the goddamn telephone. Jack, sorry. Yeah, let's do a Zoom and we'll have a discussion. Right. And Averal Haynes knows Ron Peddafi used to work for these people. So this is all, they should do this. Yeah. Stop being stupid.

The meantime, the Russians want me to go to Moscow. Right. You want the Russians to get it. Schmucks. And it's all, I blame Chris Mellon, because Chris Mellon was assistant secretary for intelligence at the Pentagon. Because he was born, because he was a Mellon. Because of, you know, and Mellon should have told him this. Mellon should have told him this.

So he's not doing his job. Right. So that's the problem. That's the problem. The problem is, and we see it what's happening in Ukraine. everything we're doing is stupid. We have open borders. So now what's happening with the open borders?

We have Chinese communist, Iranian, and God knows, North Korean special forces, sleeper cells. Those are young guys. These are military-aged men coming through, and they're ready. And they get the order. Bang, what happens?

They blow up Hoover Dam. They blow up our nuclear reactors. They incapacitate our energy generator. oil refineries and we're dead in the water. We have no home defense now. There's no home defense. They can take us over any time.

Well, didn't you say we have that biodome that blocks all the nukes? No, we don't have it. I want to make it. We don't have it. That's what they're hoping, and I'm not sure we can make it. I think maybe we can. Because the Tic Tacs have it. We have some evidence. Anecdotable. The Ticktacks

have this thing. They have a force field? Yeah. They could bounce. They try to shoot it down with missiles and it bounces off. They try to shoot it. They tried to shoot the Tick time with missiles. Or the stuff coming out of the water. Yeah, they tried to shoot it down. What?

Who tried to shoot it? Well, I can't tell you. That the guys who tell me, you know, the guy who get in trouble, I don't want to get him in trouble. And what happened to the, what, they shot rockets at it? Yeah. What happened to the rockets? They bounce back or nothing happens. They can't get through it.

Well, they even have the thing, when they have the C UFO and they take a settle in torches and they try that it, they can't, they can't dent it even. Until, they can't dent it when it want, until mentally, if it likes your brain waves, it'll obey your commands. Really? Yeah. People can consciously tap into them.

What? People can consciously tap into them? That's the only way you can. It's when they're controlled. Because they're conscious, they're alive in a sense, their artificial life. They are post-quantum, artificial living conscious intelligence.

They are chat AI. They are what's happening, what Salfati Corp is going to do if we're successful. If we get, you know, we may not, we may not think. What Salfatty Corp is going to do, you're going to have an iPhone in which the AI is a conscious AI. It's going to be as conscious as you are. Maybe not quite as kind.

Maybe like a dog or something. You know, dogs are conscious. but it will be able to talk a dog can't talk a dog has emotional consciousness just like us maybe better than I you know

the dolphins they all have it you know it's all the science of it we solve the physics of it we understand how to do it you know

with nanotechnology that's what we're going to do here it's our fatty space corps and so the point you can get into your Tesla car I don't like electric cars that's bullshit

I'm gonna get into my e pace Jaguar like 2030 Ma E-Pace Jaguar and it's going to have a conscious say, you know, let's say Jack, what do you want to go? In a beautiful English lady's voice

like they have, you know, but except it's going to be much smarter than this, you know, than what they have now because what they have now is a zombie. Right, right. But they're also going to have,

but we also have to worry because you have conscious robots. It's going to be like Blade Runner. You know, can't tell the difference you can have deep fake people. You know, and there can be some problems there, but, you know, the science fiction, you know,

Blade Runner and all that stuff. What are your thoughts on what Michukaku says about the multiverse, where he says there's multiple? I'm open-minded to it. I know me, I've met Michoacu. We discussed fly. He's into flying sources. Yes, yes.

And he's a visualized, smart guy. Very good communicator. A great communicator, yes. And whatever Mitchu says, you take seriously. He's, as they say, in the KGB, Mitchieukaku, a serious person. Drink some vodka. I drink vodka with Michio Kaku. He's a serious person.

So, yeah, you were talking to him. What is you? Yeah, I was in a bar with him in Santa Fe. We spent about like an hour drinking. He was telling me about the, this is when I got into the fight, almost got into the fight with Steve Greer. Steve Mitchie was there. Oh, wow.

And somewhere in Santa Fe, this hotel, in Santa Fe, New Mexico. And we were sitting down at the bar, you know, drinking. you know, and he said he's investigated the JAL. You know, he's a Japanese America and so he was interested in the JAL thing. And he said, everything is real. He investigated it. It's real. It's real. It happened.

As far as he's concerned. What is the JAL? That's the close encounter of this Japan airline with this flying source. I don't know. I forgot the details. Back, you know, 20 years ago, this was. Oh, really? Yeah, oh yeah.

Just look at that. Just, you know, Google, Mityo Kaku, J.A.L. UFO. flying saucer. Right. And so he's, he's, he's not even skeptical about it anymore.

Yeah, I've heard him talk about this and I've heard him mention, like the concept of avatars. Yes. Well, there's a movie avatar.

Well, that's what I'm talking about. Right. See, that's the other thing. Ah, you see, the big thing. I should have it.

Because all these Silicon Valley young billionaire, your generation assholes, They got billions of Yeah, they bought. Oh, Sam Alton's one of them. Yeah.

So they want to live forever. They want to live forever. Sarfati Space Corporation has a chance of showing them how to live forever. Because the CIA, George Coopman, 1975, says, Jack, we want to know how consciousness works. So that's called the hard problem.

Tom Soppet wrote a play called the hard problem. David Chalmers, the scientific Americans, philosopher, They all pussyfoot around. Now, I solved the hard problem back even 20 years ago. It was one of the first. I first, okay, CIA said two problems. How do conscience work and how the UFOs fly?

I basically solved the hard problem back in the mid-1990s. You know, people are stupid. They don't get it. Finally, two years, a year last year ago, there's this guy, Pavo Pilkin, who's now, he's a respectable, cognitive science, kind of biophysics guy, philosopher of science.

He gets grants from the Fetzer Foundation. He's part of the in crowd. The kind of, Steve would hammer off and all this. Yeah, he's a mensch. He's a serious person according to the establishment, okay? And he is a Finnish guy. He's a professor in Helsinki and in Sweden. Okay, and he published a paper in December of 22

on the brain as a quantum measuring device. and section 7 of that paper in a very respectable peer-reviewed journal is the sort of fatty theory of the mind matter consciousness interaction and he basically says it's the only thing I am the only theory in town that explains it nobody even else comes close I explain using Bohemian physics you know that it's all in there okay and just like these guys at law so okay and then it took me only at 2011 basically 2011 I basically solved the UFO warp drive low energy problem and I gave a talk. I was working with

these guys, Creon Leibbitt, Larry Lemke, who works with, you know, now with Jacques Valet and Gary Nolan. And I was, I was General Pete Worden, who's the head of NASA Ames back then in 2010, 2011. He had retired from the, he was a, he's the Air Force General, Brigadier General, who ran the space command. He has a PhD in astrophysics from University of Arizona. So he's a smart guy. And then he took a...

And my kind of informal... This guy, Crian Levitt, who's now the research director of Planet Corp, they do these satellites for the CIA small... They do like SpaceX. No, sky... What is Elon Musk have?

That sky thing, all these little satellites. They do stuff like that. You mean the Internet? Yeah. Oh, you know, the space surveillance for all these small satellites. Space surveillance. Starlink is the internet.

They're here right here in Santa Clara Corp. It's a spin-off of NASA Ames, the guys I knew. And they've done this. In any case, back in 2010, 2011, there's a big meeting with DARPA, Defense Advanced Projects Agency, NASA and what they're called the 100-year Starship, and General Pete Warren pays by advice me to Orlando. This is October 2011.

And I sort of solved the problem by then. I give my basic paper, but I'm trying to explain to you guys. It wasn't as good as I have it now. I have it, you know, things get better at the time. But I give the first form of it, Eric Davis's age, tries to put me down. Even though he believes in it, I guess he was afraid that it was, you know, too fringe.

What was fringe about it? Who knows? He got to ask Eric Davis, go interview him. What do you think he thought was fringe? I think because he was, you know, after the money and he knew he, I think, Ron Bedalvi calls him crooks and loons. I don't know. But the thing is this, Sharon Weinberger was there. Sharon Weinberger is a defense journalist. She writes, you know, and she wrote an article about what happened, this whole thing,

about me at this meeting and what happened. You could read the article, Creon Leibon's in it. And she writes about the whole thing. It's on the BBC website, British Broadcasting Corporation. So everything I'm saying can be checked. So I solved the problem then, back then. and banks for the last 10 years, I've been improving it. You know, we've been getting all this opposition from the Eric Davis, Chris Mellon, Louis Elizondo, Colonel Alexander, crowd mainly because of, that they hate Donald, they have Trump derangement syndrome,

so because of that, they have Sarfati derangement syndrome because I was supportive of Donald Trump. That seems to be it. Or, they're just a lot of Donald Trump. trying to keep the real secret secret because they don't want anybody to know, but it's too late. The cat's out of the back. So I don't know why they're doing. But see, this is something now for you to find out. You could ask, you should interview. You should call up. You're a, you're a major guy now. You should call, get in touch with Chris Mellon, get in touch with John Alexander,

get in touch with Eric Davis. In fact, I give you a list of people. They're the ones who are anti-Jack, but there's also Ronald Pendolfi, Pro Jack, Travis Davis, a project, Larry Lemke, you get Jacques Valet, you have a panel, you know, and all get everybody in the same, well, I'd Zoom, do a Zoom, whatever the hell you want to do. And let's just get it all out in the air. All these guys that you're mentioning, they're all experts in different fields, right? Obviously, Christopher Mellon, he's a politician, he's a defense guy, right? He's a, he's a, well, he, he's not a politician. He's a, what is his title? I don't know what his title is. Okay, he was, he was secretary to defense, right? For intelligence. For

intelligence. Yeah, back during Clinton. Right. And a little bit under George Bush, but, you know, but he was, yeah, his job, by definition, is not to be understand physics, is it? Well, intelligence, you got to know something about it. He's now, I mean, Chris and I agree on some very core issues. Chris says UFOs are real, Tick-Dax are real machines.

Jack Sarfotti says, yes, UFOs are real machines. Chris Mellon says, UFOs are a military threat. Jack Sarfeyer says, yes, Chris, the UFO's military threat. And Elizondo agrees with him and actually put off agree. Eric Davis, we all agree on this.

So on the important stuff, we all agree. Where they start attacking me is, they say, Jack Sarfati is a nutcase, conspiracy kook, everything, you know, he's a nut, and he doesn't understand physics, and his physics is wrong. We got the physics.

What do they say specifically is a conspiracy? they say you're a conspiracy cook what part of about what you say Oh, because I support Donald Trump and I believe that January 6th was a ripoff It was like the Reichstag That they had

Because I think there have been FBI And government agitators Leading it on And I think Trump was stupid to do it in the first place He fell into their trap Right You know And so I think it's a lot of bullshit

All the indictments of bullshit You know I basically say you know I'm on that wing I'm with Matt Gates and who are the, you know, some of the other guys, you know, what's her name that they hate her, the girl from South Carolina, the congresswoman, you know, was green is it, whatever, I can't think of names of hand. And, oh, well, that's perfect.

I support Tucker Carlson, you know, all these people, you know. And so that's why. So that's part of the political, the civil war, the civil war going on. Yeah, no, it's, that's, that's, you're basically just giving them an easy excuse to dismiss you by talking about all that. Yes, because I'm not going to compromise. I'm not going to pretend. No matter what's true, they're going to be able to justify that.

Exactly. They can get half of the country. And I'm not like for a while I supported, what's the same? Sanctimonious, he calls up, because he's good governor. Ron to Sanctimonious. Ronda, your governor and your governor comes off, this is interesting. And he says, at one point early, he says, we shouldn't be giving money to Ukraine. Ukraine's lost the war.

It's stupid, stupid strategy. And then, because this is Colonel Douglas McGovern, he says, then one of a sanctimonious's donors, a big donor, calls him up. And the next two days later, sanctimani, he does a 180 because, in other words, because of the money. Right, right. You see? These are just politicians. These are about that just go in the script of their donors.

These aren't just good, these aren't good people who want to make the country better. These are. No, that's right. But RFK Jr. And I support Trump, but I would support RFK Jr. is the real thing. Okay? I may not agree with everything he says on certain things,

which I'm not, you know, but he is authentic and he is honest and he's not bullshitting. He's not lying about anything. He believes he's, you can't. And that's why I support Trump. Sir Trump is not, because Trump says what's on his mind.

He doesn't bullshit around. He says what, but, you know, he acts on. he did what he said he was going to do He doesn't get he's like me Trump is like me he's in New York And he has enough money He didn't go in for the money

He lost billions of dollars By doing it He could have had you know Enjoyed his He's doing this for the cause he's a patriot He's doing it's because he's seen the country going down But these stupid assholes That's why he did it

That's the reason You know That's why I can't stop saying I'm a patriotic American man Right Yeah the old school So there it is. And I agree with, okay, one of my politics,

my talk's the same as Douglas McGregor, Ray McGovern, Scott Ritter, Scott Ritter, got him some trouble, but it doesn't matter. He's a smart guy. And there's a couple of other guys that, there's a judge Diapolitano, Tucker Carlson, basically, Michael Savage, who's a personal friend, you know. Yeah.

And that's it. And RFK Jr. I think if, I think if, if Trump survives all this, you know, the Stalinist show trials, 1936, Banana Republic, you know, treason that they're doing in New York and Jack Smith, that asshole and all of them, you know, if he survives this, and if he and RFK, if RK guy went in as vice president, they'd have a winning ticket.

Well, as far as the indictments, I mean, I don't want to like turn this into a political podcast, but the indictments, it seems like the George. ones kind of a that's kind of a straight shot for them because they have like the recorded conversations with him them and well i don't know what they have they have they have some pretty damning evidence have you heard it i haven't yeah i've i've heard people talk i can't remember it i can't recall it right now but sort of why did you hear them say that they do what they were like yes yeah basically that either it was the guys that were working for him or trump there said something about there was a quote he said find the votes oh no but that's oh no no no no they're not

No, they'll win on that. No, no. Oh, no, that's bullshit. That's all? If it says, find the votes, that's bullshit. That's like, that is total crap. That's an ass.

Oh, I'm not even, I can defend them on that. And he said, he meant by that. He believed, that's not lying. He meant that there were phony votes and there were real votes

they haven't counted properly. By fine the votes, he means weed out the illegitimate votes, the phony votes. He's talking about fine real legal votes. Okay, let me tell you something. I have people, I have a guy worked with, the physicist down Orange County. Okay? And they voted and then some of their friends, they vote a Republican, and their votes were lost. They lost, they were disenfranchised in the 2020 election in the

2020 election. They were disenfranchised. I know. My vote doesn't count here. I don't know. I've lost my, because they have all this bullshit thing about this graded thing. You don't know, I'm a PhD theoretical visit with the IQ and God knows what. I can't figure, I mean, I'm not interested in. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? And I can't figure the thing out. So what are all the dummies?

They don't know what the fuck is going on. Right, right. So we don't have any voting here in San Francisco for locals. I can vote, you know, I can vote for the, you know, for Trump or for somebody, or for RFK Jr. But then they still, you know, I mean, so we don't have any voting. votes. California is a one-party rigged election state. We have no voting rights. My civil rights have been by it for a long time. Why don't you move to Florida? What? Why don't you move to Florida?

No, because I can't stand the weather. I know. I've got a beautiful weather here. You're kidding. Look at where I'm living. So you'd rather, you'd give up some freedom for good weather. Yes. Fair or not. Well, of course. Look, I love it. And also, I'm in London. almost half a year. Okay. Half the year.

Wow. Well, it's been four. I mean, I plan to spend more. If this thing comes through, we have a London branch, London company. Uh-huh.

And my, my better half is British citizen. And we have, you know, I belong to a British club. They don't throw me out for politics because they're all pro-Ukraine and I'm not.

But whatever, I'm with this very exclusive club. And, you know, the club world. you know, and, and I just like London, you know. I mean, have you been to London? I've never been to London.

Hey, you guys, if you have the money, if you want to do, maybe you come over to London for a couple of years. It's not that far from Florida. Probably over to London. Yeah. For a couple of days, and let's see we can walk around, you know. As long as I don't look the wrong way when I'm crossing the street. Like John Mack.

Yeah, yeah, right. No, no, London is great. London is still, and even England is. going downhill. Also, they have some of the same problems we have. Yeah. But, yeah, but still, the Londoners are just, you know, they're just more fun in general. And I'm with a very elite group of, you know, people in the theater world, the government world, the army, the police, the London, my friends, assistant commissioner

of the London Met, you know, we dinner, we, you know, and they playwrights. You're a big shot. Well, I'm part of the... I'm integrated into... Bohemian Grove, London. Yeah, right, right. Well, no more Bohemian Grove because my guy died. My guy died, you know.

Are you sure they don't do sacrifices at Bohemia Grove? No, they don't do anything like that. Have you seen Alex Jones' documentary about... Alex Jones... Look, some of these... Alex Jones is an asshole. He's an asshole on the left. I like some of the stuff Alex Jones says,

because I'm a conspiracy nut too like it. But Alex Jones... really screwed up. Your conspiracy nut. You just made fun of Chris Mellon for calling you a conspiracy nut. You just called yourself. I am a consumer. But anybody who isn't a conspiracy nut is just stupid.

You've got to be stupid not to be a conspiracy nut these days. Because it couldn't be worse. You know, everything you think is bad, it's worse than you think. What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth? Do you know? Not much. Six months. Yeah.

Okay. Right, right, right. So what we talk about? Okay, the Grove. Okay. Alex Jones basically screwed up on the same. Sandy Hook thing. Oh yeah, big time. That was dumb. That was real. I don't know how it could be so stupid. I like him as a personality.

I like him. And then he screwed up on the Bohemian Grove. That's stupid. I've been to Bohemian Grove many times. And it's just like me being in a London club. It's a bunch of basically old guys like me. Okay. Old guys like me who are relaxing because they feel safe. Okay. And then they have a few guys like you, up and coming, you know, and, you know, and hedge fund guys, and, you know, a lot of them are rich and powerful, you know, and like Henry Kissinger, you know, and George Bush, when he was at, there's this whole camp where it's all, like Robert Gates, defense intelligence, heads of the CIA, admirals, the four stars, they had their own camp. We could go, I can go in there and talk to them.

You know, everything is very friendly on the, you know, the, you know, the, you know, Oh, oh, we go there. And this is beautiful, like, night and a summer night, they have like a thousand people there, tables, out, you know, dinners. And there's young people, they have these beautiful young waitresses and young men like you, you know, like making, you know, summer jobs, college kids, you know, stuff like that, who are the waiters and stuff like that. And they...

Sex slaves? no no none of that these guys couldn't get it up anyway I don't know if Rehagra would help them they're not no they're not you ever seen Obama there I don't think they let Obama in they wouldn't let Clinton in they don't like Clinton really

Clinton would not be made a member for some reason I was told Clinton probably not probably some of the top guys I don't what they have against Clinton no Clinton wasn't there Clinton was a straight shooter I don't know maybe maybe the guys I just spoke to didn't like well maybe they were Republicans. I don't know. I don't know if Obama's been there or not. It's good question.

No, but the people go to Kissinger, you know, Bloomberg, Bloomberg. What are some of the, who's some of the other guys? George Soros? I don't think they like George Soros much. I don't know. I don't know if that's a good question. I don't know. I don't know that much who's been there. But let me put it down. Okay, being at the Grove is like when I was at Cornell at 16, coming in on the Cornell special with the band.

Being at the Grove at Time is like being back in the 50s. They have these play, they have these performances, and everybody, the orchestras, everything is done by members. They have a lot of talented people from Hollywood, from Broadway. Very famous rock stars come, you know? Wow. Okay. And it's very patriotic.

It was just like when it was back at Cornell. So we go up there. there's this big, whoops, a big amphitheater and they're putting on a play a show,

and they play the Star Spangled. Everybody gets up. We pledge of the least of the United States America, these women, there's families in there.

It's all very American. It's all Norman Rockwell. You know, and the bands and those old guys and the American flags. And then they play, then they play all the stuff.

I mean, the Stanford song, the Berkeley song, the Cornell song, the, you know, the Harvard, Yale,

These are all Ivy League people. These are guys I knew back at Cornell. You go from the Ivy League, you go to the Bohemian Grove. You know, you made money. Okay. They have two classes of, they have two classes of members. If I would have, if my friend hadn't died and if I hadn't been busy, I could have become what's called a real Bohemian, a creative member.

The creative members, they don't have to pay anything. You pay your bill, your bar bill. you know, you still have that money. But a guy like Kissinger, he'll pay like $30,000 a year just dues. Maybe he's $50,000, but it's a lot of money. And they were hurt by COVID. And those are the rich guys, who are the rich bohemians.

The professors, the creative, you know, maybe the movie star, well, it depends if they have money. It all depends. But they will let you in like my friend, had somebody by my friend, my mentor, who was a top guy. He was a creative member. But he took care of the Grove.

I mean, he spent, in other ways, you put your time in, you do, you know, you do something that the club needs, you make sure that everything's running on time, you know, you work for the club. You do sets, you do in the band, if they're doing a show, and you paint the set, you act. You know, you put in your time, and, you know, you don't have to pay the yearly dues.

You keep the club running and creative. They're very creative. sounds like Scientology kind of. No, it's not something like Scientology. It's just like Scientology. That's exactly how Scientology works. No, except they have, you're talking to,

who are some of the big rock stars there? Mick Jagger? Well, I don't know if he was there, but Alice Cooper? Yeah, well, I don't know. But who are some of the American ones? Oh, America? Oh, who the Broadway?

Who's the Suntag? Guys like that. Oh, okay. They put on before, this is pre-COVID. Michael Jackson? No, Michael Jackson. No, these are, oh, you know, I don't think so. But what's his name?

But you talk to John Warner, you know, to Senator to Warner. He would come there, you know, Richard Nixon, you know, Oppenheimer, a lot of, you know, a lot of Berkeley professors. No, they put on shows. They do original scripts. They put on shows that are Broadway quality shows. Wow. Okay? They put on 30 to 50 a year.

Okay. And they do it one night. Everything's done by members of the Grove. Okay? They put it on, and then I think they do someday but official photographer. You can't, no cell phone, none like that. And it's just done, okay, okay?

And that takes a lot of effort. And they have lectures by, you know, Robert Gates. You know, top, top intellectuals come. It's like Chautauqua. It's like a university. You go there in the encampment, and you have, it's like going back to college.

They have top people. all over the world. Prince Philip was there. Prince Philip would come. Prince Philip was like a honorary member. You know, the husband of the queen, England, you know. And I think Charles has been there. I think Charles comes.

It's come in the past. I don't be well now. No, it's very... What about Andrew? What about Andrew? I don't know if Andrew was ever there, but I'm not sure that's... I don't know. I never heard anybody talking about Andrew.

Okay. But I know Charles was there and Philip would... He used to come there. Nixon, Nixon. No, and it's all very straight. It's all very proper. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. So, oh, all right.

So one of the things is, that's why Alex Jones is full of shit. Because at 9 o'clock, when they do have women there on weekends, a special weekend, women come. The wives come. At 9 o'clock, they all have, they have these GM trucks. Oh, but they all have, nine o'clock, all the security guards come to all the camps, and the women have to get on, the women stay outside the camp. They have, you know, various inns and motels surrounding the grove. And that's where women, after 9 o'clock, there's a 9 o'clock curfew.

No women. No women after 9 o'clock? No women after 9 o'clock. Only young boys. No, it's no, yeah, there's none of that. I was there. I was walking around all the time. I saw everything.

No, it's guys drinking. Yeah, they drink. They like, they sit, they'll pee on the, you know, people. They don't have to go to the bed. You know, from, yeah, they get drunk. It sounds so weird. No, it's a fraternity. Have you, you see, oh, you've never been to college.

I know. I went to an Ivy League school. It's fraternity. It's like the fraternity for super powerful billionaire. It's what these are all arrested development. Yeah, these are super power. The people who run the world, not just, it's like devil. Yeah.

These guys, these are the big bankers. These are the people that run the world that go to the woods and they kick the women out at nine o'clock. That's right. That's right. But it's not fun. It's a because they are back. It's arrested development.

Yes. They are back. Sounds very culty. Wow. I'm a call, I'm a very cult. It's fun. Yeah.

I mean, it's fun. It's like I'm back. I, it's an 80-year-old guy who feels like he's 20. He's back in college. He's back. He's back in the 50s. It's very innocent. Yeah.

There's not, there's no. And by the way, because my guy, my guy, he's in charge of the cops. You know what they got there? They got their own police force.

They got ex-d Navy SEALs, FBI, California Highway Patrol. They have a private army there. Wow. You know, they have like, you know, it could be, they have helicopters. They got, you know, they got, you know, machine guns there. They got private. And my guy was one of the six in charge of the military there. And he's a straight guy.

These are Marines guys. These are Semperified. These guys, these are old school guys. That can put them in any bullshit. In fact, there was some guy who started and then they just threw him out. There's no Epstein-type stuff going on at the Bohemian girl.

I'll take your word for it. I mean, I know. Okay. This is for I was there. Okay. And I know what, you know, I know that much. So that's all libel. So I'm defending the grove.

Yeah. So actually I'm defending. You're on record. Defending the Grove. Yeah. Anything that Alex Jones and some other assholes left wing kind of bullshit, fuck them.

They're full of shit. They're liars. that's not what happens. Okay. How should we wrap this up? What do you want? How do you want people to remember your legacy? If you don't live forever, if you don't find immortality.

Okay. I'm the... Do you see Star Trek 4? Do you ever see Star Trek 4? I don't think so. You see Star Trek 4 where they come back in time to San Francisco to North Beach to save the whales. It's filmed at the cafe dress, Star Trek 4. Really?

Yeah. And Paramount. pictures have the director's cut the CD out of they have CD in Parabom they have me uh you know after the show itself they have people come on you know talk about the show they have me lecture on time travel and in the plot there's this crazy rocket scientist like back from the future type guy which is like me building the warp drive to get them into time shop they're able to come back to San Francisco so I want to be that I'm that guy I'm Emmett Brown I was actually the mob I want to be the guy who brought warp drive time travel to the world and saved the world from nuclear war.

Superhero Jack Sarfani. I love it. That's me. That's what I think. Super Jew. That's what I think. Super Jew. Super Jew, Jack Sarfati.

It was Jack Sarfati. I mean, you want the massage? You know, she'd make me in charge of the massage. Well, Uri Gell is potty. That's a great way to end this podcast, man. You can't remember. That was a very strong. where can people find more of your work on the internet where do they find you

just google me just google me come on them all over the place I mean all right I'm star drive report oh did I said you know just just by email I'll say because you got to get back now right I got to get back yeah I got to get back I got to fly back to Tampa yeah thanks again Jack okay we got to pack up all this shit okay see if you can get some of these assholes I mentioned yes to debate me with you you know that would be great okay and oh and also think about if you want to come to London or maybe you want to come to London and go to Italy too. Okay.

And just remind me if you really want to do it, I'll put you in touch with the Italian. Okay. Okay. You decide if you want to do it. Get us in the Vatican. Well, yeah, actually, he's in charge of the Vatican gods. One of the guys that worked. That would be incredible.

You could, you know, I'll put you, you ask him to see if you can arrange you. Okay. All right, folks. Hey, that'd be fun for us all to go to the Vatican. That would be incredible. Because they have the astronomers there in the UFO. Yeah, if we could do a thing. If he could arrange us to do something at the Vatican.

Now, you're talking, that's a big box there. And then, you know, yeah, that's... Let's make it happen. Okay. Good idea. All right. Good idea. The next episode will be held at the Vatican.

Or, Lund, whatever. Tuscany. They could definitely do it in Tuscany, which is beautiful. Thanks again, Jack. Let's wrap it up. Let's wrap it up. Good night, everybody. I hope you enjoyed this.

Good night. A beautiful marathon of an episode. Yeah, Marathon. Good night to everyone. I feel, okay, feel like Jerry Lewis. I used to the marathons for the charity.