Danny Jones Podcast - #207 - Did NASA Physicists CONFIRM The Great Pyramids TRUE Purpose? | Chris Dunn

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

Chris Dunn is an engineer, machinist, & toolmaker who has worked in Aerospace for 50 years. His book 'Giza Power Plant' was the first to theorize that Great Pyramid of Giza was a high powered machine built to provide a highly technical society with energy. EPISODE LINKS The Giza Power Plant - https://a.co/d/fCRGjDI Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt - https://a.co/d/6fgwE0j The Tesla Connection - https://a.co/d/2rf5AUZ SPONSORS https://mybookie.ag - Use Code DJP when depositing $50 or more https://bit.ly/AmericanHartfordGold - Use link for up to $5k in free silver on first order FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/jonesdanny https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, Chris. Hello, Daniel. It's a pleasure to have you in here today. It's a pleasure to be here. I've been looking forward to doing this podcast for a long time. I've been dreading it. We got a lot of stuff to cover today. I've been through, I've had Ben in here, Ben Kirkwick.

I'm from Uncharted X a couple times now. And he's talked a lot about, some of the stuff that you've been working on for the past few decades. He and I are both huge fans of your work. He obviously cites all of your work when he does his stuff and when he goes to the pyramid and reports some of the stuff in his videos on Uncharted X. And that's how I actually first discovered you was from when Ben came on here about a year ago. After he came in, I read your book, The Giza Power Plant, twice, just finished reading your

new book, the Tesla connection, which was mind bending to say the least. Maybe you could give us sort of a brief background on your history and how you got interested in the pyramids of ancient Egypt. I was raised in a working class family in Manchester, England. And my father was a butcher, and my mother was a housewife, and I have four siblings, a brother and three sisters. So it was a very loving household, and I ultimately decided at the age 15 that I was done with school. And I pled out to take an apprenticeship and was hired by a company called Mother and Platt. there were an engineering company in Manchester and so at the age of 15

I entered the apprenticeship program and worked there as an apprentice for six years I started out when as I recall my paycheck was like $7 a week for 40 hours

Oh wow Right so Apprentices were not paid much back then. I mean, if you go back to, you know, the really old days, like Victorian times, apprentices, parents, fathers would take their sons to apprentice with a tradesman, a craftsman, and they would pay them to take them and teach them a trade. Or they would work for nothing, but they would kind of stay with the trades. a craftsman and serve their apprenticeship away from home.

Right. So anyway, this was kind of like an indentured apprentice. I do, actually, I have my documents, indentures that I was given when I completed my apprenticeship and then I left the company as a journeyman specializing in late. And lathes. Laths. What is a lathe? Lath turning.

What is that? It's a machine tool that is used for machining parts, round parts, particularly. Okay. Very precise round parts. There's all kinds of lathes. There are vertical lays, horizontal lades. And they've developed over the years. There's capstone lays, turret laths.

Okay. toolroom lays, you know, every one of them has different features. So the, so that was my specialty at the time. And I took that with me and went to work elsewhere when I was 22. Worked at a forge for a bit. And then I went to work at a company called Hunter Moskrupp, and they made paper milling machinery. textile milling machinery, really, really long shafts and rollers and stuff like that for industry.

While I was there, I saw an ad in the Manchester Evening News, and it was an aerospace company in the states that were recruiting machinists to work in the aerospace industry. Okay. Right. So... What year was this? That would have been around 1968. Okay.

So in 1968, I applied for the position. And I got a telegram saying that I had been selected. And I had to get a visa to come to the States and start working. So I finally... I left the shores of my home country in 1969, landed in New York on May the 9th, 1969. Okay, so you came to the U.S. and around 68 to work for the aerospace company. Yeah. And what exactly were you doing for those guys?

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Well, they hide me to run a vertical way, they call them bullets. Bullard. B-U-L-L-A-R-D. Okay. I mean, you've got millions of machinists around the States who will recognize that word. Okay. What does a bullard look like? It's a vertical way. It's like they've got a round chuck, and then you've got the typical axes that move a turret

so that you can cut inside and outside diameters. Oh, is this a bullard? Okay, that's an intense looking machine. Wow. Yeah, before, when I was in England, I ran a Webster and Bennett. In England, they call them boring, borers, vertical boars. Okay. In the States, they call it vertical leaves. So what sort of, so can you explain to me what this thing is doing here?

Well, right now it's just sitting there. There's no part. But you see that there's a chuck there. Yeah. Okay, so you mount a part to be machined on the chuck, and that hexagon kind of thing, that has, it's not a hexagon, is it? But it has a toolpost, and you mount tools into toolpost and cut the parts on the outside and inside different shapes. What kind of materials? Well, in the airspace, you're talking about exotic alloys, like in-canal-hastolo-X.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. High-heat-resistant, corrosion-resistant allies. When I first came to the States, I worked for a place in Martinsville, Indiana, called Twig Industries. And Twig Industries, they were a subcontractor for some of the major EOMs, like General electric, Allison Engine, which is now Rolls-Royce and Indiana, was Bratman-Wittany and other aerospace companies. So they did a lot of aerospace stuff, including stuff for the moon landing.

Oh, really? Yeah. What kind of stuff did you guys engineer for the moon landing? Well, they were a manufacturer. They didn't necessarily design it or engineered. They engineered the processes. Okay. It was a framework for the survival pact for the astronauts when they went on the, landed on the moon and did their moonwalk. That box affair that they had on their back, right? That box on their back, you guys made that?

The framework for it, yeah. So it was a well-man. What is that box on the back? What does it do? It's their survival. I guess it provides, you know, heat and the cooling to their suits, keeps the temper. temperature, regulated and monitors their physical functions and that stuff. Okay. Wow, that's fascinating.

I actually, they had, obviously, they had made that before I got there because the moon landing was in June, right? The month after I arrived. Oh, wow, okay. Yeah, it was... Good timing. It was interesting, you know, there's a thing about manufacturers and, you know, the inside jokes and the way people talk about the company and stuff like that, right? So it's like there was a, you know, one old, one old bag said something, he said, well, we know, we know that the astronauts are going to come, come back, you know, they'll make it back, because everything Twig makes always comes back eventually.

So in other words, it's kind of like, everything I make has got flaws, so he's going to come back. Oh, God. Well, at least he got a sense of humor. Well, you've got to have a sense of humor. Right, of course. Yeah, it's valuable.

So how long did you work for this company? I mean, you worked there for about a year, just under a year. Oh, okay. In Martinsville, yeah. Okay. And what did you do after that? Then I went briefly to Texas.

And then I worked at a very small shop in Indianapolis. I came back to Indiana and worked in a very small shop. They made drapery, machinery, and wheel balancing equipment. Wheel balancing equipment. Yeah. So it was, yeah, it was, it was 1970. So we were kind of heading into a recession at that time. and so it was very hard, very difficult to find work.

So I just got the best job that I could get at the time. And then after that I went to a place called Bueller, which was known as Indiana Gear Company. They made gears for helicopters and other aerospace kind of products. Okay. So what is the process when you're working for these companies that are making these gears? any of these aerospace pieces or parts, like what is the process to actually creating them?

Like, you're operating this big machinery. So does people send you plans or like schematics for how this needs to be done and what materials they need to be done with? And then you guys sort of figure out how the cuts are going to be made and all that. How does that process work? Yeah, generally the manufacturing process that I have experienced. And, you know, I have experienced. and, you know, every company is different, of course. But what I've experienced is that the company will receive an order from a customer that will include drawings and specifications. Some of the specifications are on the drawing, others are in a separate sheet,

but they will control the process. So the engineers will then take those drawings and design a process, and create their own drawings, breaking out all the various elements of the drawing. So if the drawing has multiple parts, assemblies, subassemblies associated with, like a jet engine, I scroll through here and put up. So essentially, you've got various parts to a jet engine. And they're comprised of individual single parts. Those single parts could be made of sheet metal.

They could be forgings, castings. And they are basically cut, welded, machined, formed in all different kinds of configurations. And then put together, they may be braised, welded together, which would include maybe spot welding or, you know, TIG welding. And then those subassemblies are then shipped to the customer, and the customer installs them in their engine. Interesting, while we're on this drawing, we'll talk about some of the elements.

One of the principal elements of the shapes that you find in a jet engine is a truncated cone. Right. Right. Okay. So the truncated cone will appear in just about every section of the engine from the front end to the after end. But anyway, getting back to that process, the manufacturing engineers will submit a plan to the production. then production will review the plan.

The engineer will have tools, dyes, fixtures, gauges, ordered from suppliers or to be made internally. And then everything will come together with that particular part that is designed to produce and inspect. Okay. So accuracy. And the complexity of these parts is very, very, they are unique because you have the application of geometries such as an airfoil shape or something like that. It's applied to a truncated cone or other parts.

And then they're supposed to fit with precision. You cannot allow for any variation of accuracy, no variation whatsoever. You have certain tolerances that you work within, maybe one, two thousands, sometimes maybe 20,000s. But you have to stay within those tolerances. Otherwise, the part is no good. Wow. It could be either scrapped or you may have to rework it, which just adds cost and reduces your profits, right? Wow.

The point is that when it comes to public safety, you know, you have to follow due diligence. Right. And that is with the people you hire from, and you're. engineers down to tool makers, to machinist, to production employees. All of them are obligated to adhere to very tight standards. This is an example of probably something that requires the utmost precision than probably anything on Earth because you're building engines that are on planes that are carrying hundreds of people. Right?

So I assume like even building skyscrapers, you don't have to be as precise as you have to be when creating something like this, which contains, I'm sure, millions of very tiny parts in different types of materials that fit together that create the entire thing. They say when they ship a jet engine, say like a large Trent engine, Rolls-Royce, maybe, shipped to a customer, the paperwork that goes with it, all the sense. certifications weighs more than the engine. Wow. That's incredible. Yeah, so it's a... And your son works for Rolls-Royce, by the way. That's a little interesting aside.

Your son is working at the aerospace division of Rolls-Royce. Yes. That's amazing. Working in metrology there. The reason I want to share this with you is because it does have an impact on the way somebody who is from this industry or even any kind of manufacturing industry, the way they look at ancient Egyptian artifacts and how they interpret what they see. And I think it also is what has created a bit of a schism, you know, between manufacturers and technophiles, you know, those who are

really into, you know, they have some technical education, even though it's not identical to, say, another field. You will have certain experience in technology, you know, maybe it's media or photography or electronics or things like that. And so your brain is wired a certain way. But you don't have the shop, experience of actually going down into the shop and creating these artifacts. Right.

And knowing what can change something to make it not workable. And there can be very slight, very slight changes that will, say, the geometry on a cone, it doesn't have to change very much. for it to be for it to be scrapped. Right. So if you misinterpreted a drawing, you know, or something like that,

just and cut something out of print, then then you scrapped it. At what point did you become aware of some of the artifacts and the pyramids and everything in ancient Egypt?

That was in 97 Okay Yeah And I was working as a tool and dye maker And the In Indianapolis And I was

I was in a bookstore And I saw this book up by Peter Tompkins And That's me there Oh wait a minute Oh wow Okay yeah we didn't talk about this

Oh, you want to talk about it? Yeah, let's talk about it. What is the... I don't know. If I tell you about that, I may have to kill you. It'll be worth it. No, it won't. It's no big deal.

But, yeah, there's a story behind it. Wait, you really can't tell the story? Well, yeah, I guess I could. So what is this plane? And where is this? That is a F-117. And that is the, you know, the stealth fight. Yes.

It was in the desert storm. And which part of this plane did you build? Well, I am not going to claim that I actually cut those parts that you see on that plane. But there was a period of time I was running a laser job shop in Indianapolis. A laser job shop? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

What does that mean in English? Well, we're using high-powered lasers. to cut aircraft materials. Okay. Right. So the, I was working for a company called Redick Engineering

and Reddick was a great guy, right? I was encouraging him to get into lasers because I was, I've become fascinated with lasers. And he actually went to an auction and bought a Perkinselma, helium neon laser with retro. reflector and target for alignments and stuff like that. And he comes, wheels it over to my bench.

And he goes, there you go, bloke. See what you can do with that? Wow. Right. What are one of those lasers costs? Well, I don't know what he'd pay for it, but it wasn't much because he was a cheap bastard. Yeah, he got an auction.

No, he's a good guy. Yeah. But a cheap bastard. Some of the best guys are cheap bastards. Aren't you, though? Yeah. yeah so anyway but the

one day a guy comes in with these panels right and he wanted me to set them up in the laser and cut these rectangular holes in them but they were on compound angles and it was an array of them right in a square so I set them up

program the laser and and cut those little squares and then I go to, I see the F-117 and I'm looking at the air intake on the front and it's like, those look remarkably like those panels. Wow.

And the engineer that brought them in, I was like, hey, what? I was always very curious about where this stuff went, you know, what he was used for, what the application was. What are these for? What are these for? Uh-huh.

And he goes, can't tell you. It's classified. Just cut it. Just cut it. Actually, you're not cutting. You're burning. The laser burns it. It doesn't cut it.

Wow. Right. So, anyway, that's that story. That's amazing. Yeah, so the secret. So this is the first book that you came across about the pyramids in Egypt? Yeah. That was 19.

That cover is interesting looking. You saw the dirt that's coming up, the side of the side of the the pyramids, all the sand or whatever it is? That is, yeah, that is an artist impression of it. I don't think it's accurate. But it is true that the pyramids, they had a lot of sand and also rubble because the pyramids were pretty much destroyed. most of the casing stones had been shaken off in history.

The official theory is that they were used to build mosques and marionettes of Cairo, and they were using the whole Giza Plateau as a quarry. And there's signs of that, too, that they were actually doing some quarrying out there. You see evidence of Roman quarry. Mori marks, particularly to the south of the second pyramid. Okay. Capra's pyramid. Okay.

And you'll find a lot of granite blocks. Some of them still in situ up against the pyramid, others laying out in the field to the south, and they will have these slots or grooves cut into them, where they try to, wedge, you know, cut them into pieces and succeed in some cases. Wow. Yeah. And the interesting thing there is that... You're talking about the actual, like the dynastic Egyptians.

We're doing that. I don't think it was the dynastic Egyptian. Okay. I believe it was, I think it was the Romans. Oh, the Romans. Okay. Right. Because in other parts of the world, you'll see the same kind of technique that they use.

that they use for quarrying. Okay. Right. Okay, got it. And then the question is, if the dynastic Egyptians built the pyramids, right, why would they proceed to tear them apart? How'd they tear them apart? Well, you know, you're saying, well, did the dynastic Egyptians create those quarry marks?

But they were actually stripping the granite away from the pyramid. And so it really doesn't make sense to build a pyramid and put out, you know, go to the trouble of putting all that beautiful granite against it. And then, you know, taking a hammer and chisel. Like the casing stones and stuff like that. Right. They were stripping it away. Right.

So I think they... Who was the first person to come up with the idea that the dynastic Egyptians are responsible for the pyramids? Who's the first person? Or the first group or the... Where did that come from? Well, that has been in the official literature for a long time. Didn't you say that it was written by Europeans, that history? Most of the Egyptian history, most of the Egyptian history was written by early

Egyptologists, which were Europeans. So in England, Flint is. Petrie, Willem Plendez Petrie, he was considered to be England's, or Britain's first Egyptologist, Mariette, August Mariette, French in France. And so, you know, the Europeans were very active in studying Egyptian artifacts and also, you know, taking a few home with them. Yeah. A lot.

A lot of them home with them. So they, you know, as far as the, you know, assigning the time period for the building of the pyramids, I, because the pyramids that were assigned to a particular king in a period of time, they placed them in the fourth dynasty. the fourth dynasty. Fourth dynasty, right. So it's like 2,400 B.C., something like that. And when did you first go to Egypt?

86. 86. Yeah, okay. Right, 86. Yeah, that was, it was different in 86. It was very chaotic. And it was a bit of a culture shock for me. But the interesting thing was I was really nervous because I'd already been writing about my theory on the Great Pyramid, which occurred to me in 1977.

And so when I actually came face to face with the pyramids, which anybody who writes about the pyramid, must visit it eventually. Yeah. Right? You'd think. You'd think sooner rather than later. Mine was much later than I'd hope. That's the way things were.

So I didn't know. So you started writing about this before you actually visited Egypt. I did, yeah. What prompted you to begin writing about it? And where were you getting your information from? Well, that's the thing, you see. I was, and that really heavily influenced my mind because I was looking at, looking at the pyramid and the schematics of the pyramid as an engineered product that had the precision of a machine.

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It was a kind of an evolution of that thinking, gathering all the information from Tompkins' book, which included the pyramids and temples of Giza and what was contained in there, that I became convinced that the effort for building the Great Pyramid it did seem to me that the culture that built it was much more advanced in terms of their technical manufacturing capabilities anyway and then what we have been taught. So that is clearly evident and I think that has been supported by most engineers and technicians who have been over there and actually started to study them with that thought in mind.

Were you the first person to come up with the theory that the pyramid was a power plant? Guilty. Let me back up a little bit. There was, I mean, there was a general period of time in the 70s where there was a lot of interest in something that they called pyramid power in that the pyramids just by the shape of a pyramid has had this kind of energetic value so there was a lot of talk about that there was a buck written by Patrick Flanagan back in the 70s it was called Pyramid Power There were other books written that referred to the Great Pyramid with talking about pyramid power.

But there was a kind of a mystical kind of power rather than a practical. Mystical, how so? Something that is not quantified in physical terms or three-dimensional terms. Not measured. Not measured. It's more like something that we didn't quite understand.

Can quantify. And was that based on like people standing in the pyramids and... It's based on a lot of, yeah, a lot of that kind of information or that, those experiences. It was more an experiential kind of experience, an experiential experience. Scratch that. Right. No, it was more, it was more an observation. Okay.

And it was subjective. Subjective. in a lot of ways. Some of it was, you know, they tried to measure it, but they were measuring effects rather than identifying what kind of energy it was. Okay. The sharpened razor blade experiment was very popular back then

where the pyramid was said to, if you put a razor blade inside a pyramid, pyramid shape, then the blade would stay sharper longer. What? Yeah. So it had a lot of different values. Is that true? Does the razor blade stay sharper longer if you keep it inside the pyramid?

I tried that. You know, I said, well, I'm going to try it. So I used a razor blade for a little longer than I thought. But then I had a, the thought in my mind was that you're doing those kind of experiments, those are already done. What was needed was a complete kind of reverse engineering of the structure. to determine and find answers for every single part of it. Right.

What was originally designed into it. What was introduced afterwards that was not a part of the design, what the operation of the pyramid, what effects that may have had in certain areas. And so there is quite a lot of information that I had to go through to find answers for. A lot of mystery. Can you do a, in your book you do a beautiful job of explaining reverse engineering. Can you give me the rundown on how you reverse engineer something?

Well, it's very simple. It's kind of, it's like if somebody comes to you with a, Say you're a manufacturer. Somebody comes to you with a product that already exists. They don't have any drawings. They don't have any specifications on it at all. And they say, I want you to make this exactly like this. And if you do that, then it was going to function the way I think it will.

Okay, so you make it identical to the original. What do you do? You take the piece, you take it to the lab, you measure every single part of it, how many parts are actually in it, and then you determine a process on how you would reproduce it, right? Okay. And then you reproduce it, and then you compare it to the original. and say, okay, does this look like the original? Is it similar to it?

Is it made the same? Measure to measure. Measure it. Measure it out. It's not just a matter of saying, looking at it and saying, yeah, that's close. Okay. It's like, no, you've got to measure it and you've got to be very exact. Okay.

Now, the other part to reverse engineering is to try and determine what goes on inside an engine or inside a device, a machine, a complex machine, any complex machine, how it functions, based on its output when you can't see what's inside, right? So the first thing you've got to do is open it up, and then you try and determine through examining every single component inside it how it functions. Manufacturers do that all the time. So it's basically the reverse effect of engineering something, which is when you're engineering something, you say, hey, I want something that achieves this.

I want something that performs this task. And that's when you're engineering. You say, okay, how do we perform this task? We put this thing together. We build the parts that we think are going to do this and then measure everything. and then measurement, design, and function. Measurement, design, and function. Right.

So you measure, you know, you analyze the design, you take measurements. And you figure out the function. And you determine what the function is. And engineering is the opposite. Engineering something is function. You have a particular function that you want a device to perform. And so then you do the design and then you build the product. Right.

Using the measurements. Right. When you started writing about the pyramids, and you were sort of, I guess you were sort of like seeing sort of diagrams in the 70s had already been done, and all of the chambers that are known about today had already been discovered, and you sort of knew what it looked like. Yeah. And you just assumed that, you know, there's no way something this precise with these weird shafts and compartments and voids was built for a tomb.

You thought intuitively that it looked like something that had a function. I did, yeah. Let me see if I can bring up a cross-section of the Great Pyramid. So this is an image out of my book, and the different features on the inside is what really caught my attention. Okay. We'll start with the downward shaft, which is this particular shaft right here. Sorry. So this shaft right here, over the constructed portion of it, from the opening here down to the bedrock,

was straight within the thickness of a thumbnail. That is 20,000ths of an inch. Okay. The passageway, it's called the descending passage. The passageway is around 40 inches square. I think it's like, yeah, around 40 inches square. And it goes down 350 feet to this bedrock chamber. The entire length from the outside of 350 foot long is only out one quarter of an inch.

And that is also the excavated portion. 40 inches wide, I assume people haven't made. been down there, right? I've been down there. How do you get down there? I wouldn't get down there today, obviously. You go 300 feet down a 40-inch tunnel? Yeah.

People still do this? People do that, yeah. Yeah, I mean, the... Is it all lit up and stuff for people to, like, is it... Yeah, there are lights. There are lights along there. And, you know, you get down into the subterranean chamber, and some people have even gone into this shaft right here that's cut even smaller than the 40 inches.

There was a story about that, I mean, in my book, on a tour that I was, that I co-hosted in 2018, there was a geologist, an engineer, actually, two engineers. One, Andy Leskowitz, he went down to the end of that, of that shaft. How wide is that little shaft on the end of that chamber? It's very small. I mean, I won't fit in it. You might. When I was a lot younger, I would have gladly gone down there.

So this cross section of the pyramid, this was available. in the 70s. Everyone knew about all of these chambers and these shafts were all known then. All except for I. I is the recent one which was found by the Scan Paramus Project. Yes, exactly.

Okay. So the big void that was discovered in 2017. Okay. So you saw this and what was the first thing that went through your head? It was really weird. It was very mysterious because I said, I was, what's going on here? You know, I'm like, this, this is, there's something going on here.

And I don't know. I didn't know what it was. I was like, but it's just so mysterious. And I just, I just sat down and I started to draw these three-dimensional, uh, drawings of the different chambers, right? and then, you know, just looking at it. It was, and trying to figure out what each of those chambers was used for became my passion. But the thing that struck me the most is the incongruity of the shafts.

The small shafts, there's a story behind those that is, quite exciting really but it's it's really they're really really important to the function of the machine so yeah all of that struck me immediately with the precision um just the the the angles um different shapes it was all very machine-like to me and I think think, you know, when it comes to saying that the pyramid was a machine to produce energy, then, yeah, I was probably the first to actually put that out. What type of machine do you believe that this pyramid is, and how does it work? In my first book, I call it was called the Giza Power Plant.

as you know. And... Yes. Okay, so the Giza Power Plant described the Great Pyramid. I described it as a coupled oscillator in that it was connected to the earth. Its proportions were an integer to the earth, and it was tuned harmonically to the vibrations of the earth. That was what I proposed.

And as such, it reacted to the Earth's pulse or the Earth's harm of vibrations. And through that, they were able to stimulate electron flow in the central granite chamber and produce microwave energy. So basically, I described it as a mazer. It was a solid state mazer. A solid state electron harvester. Well, that's what ultimately I call it, yeah, it was a electron harvester. And so that was in my first book.

I didn't call it electron harvester. Oh, that was until the new book, okay. Yeah. Well, you know, I realize that, you know, a lot of people will look at the word power plant and the vision that comes to their mind is like smoke stacks, you know, along trains of coal, snaking through the countryside to these power plants. And so, you know, kind of... And then, of course, you know, power plant and nuclear power plant,

coal power plants and stuff like that. Right. So it's generally associated with boiling water, creating steams. pushing turbines and drawing the electrons off the generators. But this was kind of like a different concept in terms of creating energy or drawing energy from the earth directly without burning fossil fuels or smashing atoms. So underneath, and the cover of the Giza power plant, you have the pyramids sitting in the desert, and then underneath that you have like the, it looks like lava underneath and then like the crust of the earth. So I guess you're describing that seismic activity that's happening inside of the earth, creating vibrations that are resonating with all the rocks in the pyramid. Yeah, that cover was created by my publisher, Bear and Company.

They're artists, and basically it does represent what you just said. Okay. You know, I mean, as far as strict accuracy to engineering drawings, you don't see that there, but it loosely gives you an idea. Okay. Right. It represents the pyramid, energy companies. and out of the pyramid, it's connection to the earth and energy going on inside the earth that is

tapping into. So you theorized that the pyramids were harvesting energy and generating energy to power whatever civilization created them. Yeah. And how do they get power from the pyramids? How do they get it? How do they use it? Oh, how do they use it?

Yeah. That is a good question. It's a question I get asked a lot. The problem that we have is when you look at the pyramids, so you go to Egypt and you walk around the pyramids in the temples, you look at the skeleton of a civilization. Obviously, there's so much that's missing that has disappeared over time. Right.

We don't know why. And so when you ask the question, well, what were they powering? You know, we don't find any microwave ovens out in the desert. So, you know, and you probably won't. You know, the only thing that really survived from that period of time was the rocks. The rocks. Yeah. Right.

And, you know, some other materials, but the rocks. basically survived. And it's a matter of, you know, then again, you know, it's like, okay, so what we're left with is the rock, so what do we do? We take measurements. We look at the design. We analyze the effects of certain spaces like the King's Chamber, the effects of that chamber, with the acoustic effects of it, the acoustic effects of the Grand Gallery.

So there's a lot that we can study to try and come up with some answers as to how it functioned and what it did. And it's an evolving, I would call it like it's, I would say that it's kind of like an international brainstorming session. So I mean, if you ask me what my whole role. is in this thing. I would say I'm just like, I'm a mechanic that comes across an engine in the desert and I'm trying to figure out what the engine does, right? And so in order to figure it out, I need a lot of help. I need the assistance of experts in different fields, physicists, electrical engineers, acoustic engineers, you know, geologists, materials, engineers, all of those people have input. And so that's what I did. I talked to civil engineers, I talked to electrical

engineers, I talked to mechanical engineers as I was developing the theory for the book. Okay. And when you first traveled to Egypt and went inside the pyramid, What did you discover from your experience, from your personal experience being there, going inside the chambers? Did that have any sort of effect? I'm sure it did on some of the writing you did previous to that? Profound effect. Just the experience of being there is just mind-blowing. Whether you're writing about it or, you know, just a general tourist. I mean, I've seen people really affected tremendous. tremendously just by, you know, going into Great Pyramid. But the, as far as how, did it affect my perception or ideas or what the Great Pyramid was, I was worried, I was extremely worried that it would when I went there. And I, you know, I was on my way to Egypt.

And I'm thinking, oh, done. What have you done now? You know, you're going to Egypt. And, well, if it's all not as you read, it's something totally different. And you're just going to leave thinking, okay, well, I just wasted, you know, six years of my life or whatever. Right. So, yeah, I was concerned about that. and that actually kept me away from the Great Pyramid.

I didn't go into the Great Pyramids for three days. It was like I was, you know, eyeing it warily from a distance. I was like, yeah, didn't want to go up there. You're afraid. You're afraid that might kill your dream. Yeah. There was a bit of nervousness there. There was also a lot of, you know,

I don't know I don't know just acclimatizing to the culture there was kind of difficult back in 86 it's a lot easier these days so

but anyway the third day I was there fourth day I went up and paid to go in and went in I did a few checks and it was like awe inspiring

and the different dimension that it provides you. It's not just a clinical review of books, many different bucks that I accessed over the years when I was studying it. It wasn't just a clinical analysis at that point. It became a living thing. It was kind of like a totally different dimension. It's one thing to read a story, it's another thing to live it. Right. It's like, yeah, okay, so I'm looking at lines on paper,

and now I'm inside those lines. Right. And then after that, I went outside and pondered on the whole thing and started to wander around the plateau. But that's when I started to look at a lot of the casing stones, and the stones on the south of the Caffiris Pyramid, the Second Pyramid. So I'm walking around there and I'm looking at these, what I consider to be really, really sharp and flat, sharp angles,

sharp corners, very well cut stone with flat surfaces and then some other unusual shape stones that looked like they were extremely precise. But this was in 86 and I didn't have any tools or instruments with me

to see if indeed what I was looking at was actually precise. You can't really tell by looking at the photograph, just how, or looking at it with your eyes just exactly how precise it is. You have to measure it. Right.

Okay. Right. Okay. So that's what I, when I left, I had that in mind that next time I go, I need to take some instruments with me and check things out a little closer. And how long did it take before you went back?

1995. Oh, wow, okay. You remember in 1993, Rudolph Gantambrink did the exploration of the southern shaft in the Queen's Chamber. Okay. Who was Rudolph, Gant, Gantzain. Gantambring was a German robotics engineer, and he was commissioned by the German mission.

in Cairo to clean out the shaft because they wanted to install some ventilation in them to protect the monument. So he was contracted to go to Egypt. He designed and built a robot to explore the shafts. And particularly it was the King's Chamber that he was focused on, was actually clearing it out and then installing fans. Okay. Do you have any images of this? Okay. So if we look at this one right here. Okay.

Okay. What you see here is this is the Southern Shaft opening, which has particular significance to the theory, the microwave theory. Okay. This is an opening in the south wall, and it's directly opposite an opening in the north wall. It's right here. Okay? So this opening here has a dimensions of 8.4 by 4.8 inches. Oh, wow. So generally the guidelines for creating a wave.

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Oh, just about everything that we get. I mean, you got these microwave towers. Try and pull up a microwave horn antenna on the internet. Okay. So you have those, they're all different shapes and sizes. And, you know, there is a, obviously, I don't work in the microwave industry. So where is the wave guide here? Oh, that's the horn antenna with the wave guide, right?

And there are some where you have curvatures on the interior surface. But you see the wave guide itself, the horn, receives a broader signal and then narrows it down to the wave guide and transmits it through a wave gun. Okay. All right. So that's what we're looking at when we're seeing those little shafts. The dimensions of those are...

If you believe what I'm telling you. Okay, right. I believe it, man. I believe you. So when I saw that, it was like, okay, that looks like a horn antenna. Right? And that's in the south wall of the King's Chamber.

directly opposite is a shaft where the width is almost twice the dimension of the height. So you do have that rectangular kind of opening. It's 4.8 high and 8.4 inches. Okay. So essentially, the width has to be related to the wavelength. of the atoms that are used to create the microwave signal. Okay. Okay.

And the wavelength of hydrogen is 21 centimeters or 8.309 inches. So it's almost 8.4 inches. Close. So if you had like, if you had a, some kind of a liner in there, maybe gold-plated liner, then you would have just a... Ah, so if these things could have been plated or coated on the surface, it would be a little smaller.

Yeah, it would be just a little smaller. So it would be, it's the perfect dimensions for a wave guide for hydrogen. It's very, very close. Well, I mean, just as it is, it's close. Okay. But they could be lined. Now, of course, you know, critics will say, well, there has been no, nothing found in the archaeological record that would indicate that those things even existed, ever existed. And that's maybe true.

Except for one plate that was found by Perring, Petrie, on the south side of the... a great pyramid near the shaft and that is an iron plate and on one surface of this iron plate there is signs of gold that it was gold plated at one time so there's two shafts going out of the king's chamber right which is in the upper middle of the pyramid right and so yeah h and j on this diagram right these are what we were just looking at these wave guides right right allegedly. And one of them brings something in

and then it goes through the King's Chamber and then the other one shoots it out. Now, something happens in between. Yeah, something happens

between inside that King's Chamber. G. Right. What happens inside the King's Chamber? Okay, so inside the King's Chamber,

what you have is a resonant chamber. The fascinating features of the King's Chamber that it's constructed of granite red or pink granite

from Aswan Is that unique for the other chambers in the pyramid? Yeah, this is the only chamber in the pyramid that has granite. Okay. So the granite was brought from Aswan

which is 500 miles away. Okay. from the pyramid. How much granite is in that chamber? Oh, thousands of tons. Thousands of tons of granite. You're talking, yeah, you're talking thousands of tons. There are 43 beams above the chamber itself.

Those 43 beams weigh between 45 and 70 tons each. Are you talking about those beams that are above the chamber? Right. The beams are set to be relieving chambers. You know, they're stacked in a series above. There's five layers and a space between each one. And it looks like the bottom of those, the beams are perfectly square on the bottom and edges,

and the tops of them are very rough. Right. And so in the Giza power plant, I proposed that those beams were intentionally made that way. And it wasn't a lack of attention rather than it was a very specific focused attention on the beams to make sure that they were tuned to a particular frequency when struck. So you have a situation where sound input into that chamber, or vibration into that chamber would resonate, would cause the granite to resonate,

and the beams above would resonate also to those frequencies. Okay. And the other interesting thing about the King's Chamber, assembly is that it is totally separate from the core masonry. You know, in a structure you would like tie things

into the core masonry or the core structure for stability and stuff like that. There is a space all around the King's Chamber separating it from the limestone blocks that comprise the core chamber.

Really? Right. So you have that particular feature. Tom Dan Lee, who was an acoustic engineer, he did some acoustic testing in 1997, I believe it was the time he went over there. And he reported that he had, he was testing doing a sweep at very, very low frequencies, very low frequencies, infrasonic. And the frequencies that he picked up were forming an F sharp chord. So they were musical in nature.

the F sharp is considered to be or by the Hopi Indians tune their flutes to the F sharp cord they consider it to be the voice of Mother Earth it is the frequency of the earth and what was he doing in the

King's Chamber to get them to resonate and vibrate like that to get the blocks to make the sound nothing no he wasn't he was just in there No, when he picked up those frequencies, everything was turned off and there was no apparent force to cause it to vibrate. So this was just sort of like the white noise or the background noise? This was like a background frequencies of the room. See, in 95, I took some tests inside the King's Chamber.

and I wanted to, I took an RF counter with me. I wanted to check the frequencies, see if there's any EM frequencies coming off, the granite. And I wanted all the lights turned off while I was in there. So I paid good money to get in the Great Pyramid, have a long time in it. You rented it out by yourself, wow. I was by myself and... Private party.

Private party, yeah. And so, anyway, the lights weren't turned off. And I had a recorder with me, and I was recording the whole time I was inside the King's Chamber. And, you know, of course, all this is, it's not scientific, it's all anecdotal, right?

And so when I, I got a little impatient waiting for the lights to turn off. So I got my flashlight and I went out to what they call the Great Step at the top of the Grand Gallery right there, standing right there. And I yelled down to the guards outside, please turn off the lights. and then I scurried back into the chamber before they actually turned the lights off because I didn't want to be caught in the dark well the interesting thing is

when I got back to my room later and played back that recording I had a also I had a guitar tuner with me right Yeah. So, you know, measured frequencies. And it picked up my footsteps on the granite.

The granite was ringing at the frequency of 440. It was an A on the musical scale. An A. A, yeah, 440. So that was recorded. Just me, just my feet striking. What is the significance of it being an A? It's all about frequency and resonance.

and vibration, right? So if you've got energy coming through the pyramid, you're collecting energy in the Grand Gallery, which is this structure right here. Yes. Right? Converting vibrations into airborne sound, those are transmitted into this chamber right here

and resonate in this chamber. That is causing all that granite to vibrate. Okay. Right. Okay. So let me see if I got this right. Number A is a subterranean chamber, which is picking up vibrations deep within the earth. That is transmitting vibrations up those shafts.

There's two shafts, one that goes like out of the pyramid to the right, and then one that goes up into the Grand Gallery. And then it goes through the Grand Gallery into the King's Chamber. Yeah. I mean, okay, there's a prime impulse. the in the subchamber, which is A, okay, so if you are, if you're causing or driving a pulse into the earth and eliciting a response, then it's, that's not designed to necessarily be collected in just in the subchamber, right? It's designed to affect the whole area. under the Great Pyramid and for vibrations to flow from the earth throughout the 13 acres of the Great Pyramid.

Okay. And then flow through to the Grand Gallery and also the King's Chamber. So you're collecting those vibrations throughout. And then converting those vibrations into airborne sound stimulating electron flow from the granite. And I identified the piezoelectric effect as being a principal mechanism for electron flow out of the granite. That had changed. That changed after I started to do my research on Giza the Tesla connection. So what is the specific function of A, the chamber, the subterranean chamber?

In the Giza Power Plant theory, A is a chamber that contains the means to drive vibrations into the earth. Okay, so there was something inside the chamber underneath the pierce. The chamber, yes. That would vibrate the earth. Yeah. And also at the same time, probably the pyramid. So it would serve two functions. You'd be sending vibrations not just into the earth, but also into the pyramid itself.

Okay. So, yeah, the subchamber being housing the pulse generator, which there are different proposal on how that was accomplished. Okay. There's one that's, uh, uh, uses hydraulics, uh, hydraulic pulse generator, uh, John Cadman, who is a, uh, marine engineer out in Bellingham, Washington, who's a supporter of that. And then there is the, uh, the Tesla version, which is, um, what he called an earthquake machine. Yes, this was a fascinating part of your book. I had no clue.

Electro-mechanical device that sends timed pulses into a structure, whether it's a beam on a bridge or an ibeam in a building in New York, which I think, yeah, there's reports that he did that and almost brought the building down. Yeah, there was a story. You told the story in your book. The story was fascinating. They were in the basement of a huge building in New York and they turned on the generator and the building started falling down around them. For all the time that we have been alive, the U.S. dollar has been the primary currency, but that may not be the case for much longer. China is set to dethrone the dollar and possibly much sooner than you think. And even the world's biggest economies are already ditching the dollar for the yen.

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well resonance is a really powerful powerful force when you consider it you know when you when you when you impart energy into a system that is already has a certain amount of energy and is vibrating of a particular frequency and you catch it at a node, right, a high note. An example would be a pendulum or a swinging ball. Okay, so the swinging ball comes back to you, it reaches the arch height, and then you apply energy right there, then put energy into it and it goes further. And so you can start out very, very, very small movements of this. Could be a ton, you know. Maybe you just move it an inch, and then it swings back to you and you give it the same amount of force, and it moves. two inches and then it comes back to you and you step back and each time you're stepping back

and by the time you know you can build up quite a quite a swing on that ball without you know going up to it and having to smack it with a hammer and probably break the hammer but but the the the point is is that a small child could create quite an effect just just just by using resonance. And then, you know, the whole idea of accumulated energy. What was the purpose of Tesla's earthquake machine? What was he trying to accomplish with that? He actually believed and wrote that he thought that you could relieve earthquakes or the severity of Earth.

earthquakes in here. And it was interesting that was reported. I hadn't read that when I wrote the geese power plant because I had made that observation in the geese power plant that perhaps you know with a system for drawing energy out of the earth one of the effects of that would be the energy that is accumulating in the earth's plates where they push together to the point of breaking or, you know, rapid release where you have seismic waves moving out. So going around with this machine and basically creating little mini earthquakes to avoid some big earthquake down the line? Yes.

Ah, okay. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. That was one of his ideas about the use of his machine. Okay. So basically that was in alignment with what I was thinking. Okay.

And you imagine something like this was down there in the subterranean chamber? Yeah. Okay. Possibly, yeah. Okay. I think everything is open to further research and important. put from other specialists. I mean, obviously, if you're going to start playing around with the planet, you're going to have

you're going to have to have geophysicists involved and geologists involved, seismologists involved. You know, you can't just willy-nilly go in there and start putting vibrations into the Earth and a great quantity. Right. I don't know. Yeah, could be dangerous. I don't know. I mean, you know, it's like you have to be, I think, fully aware of what the outcomes are going to be. Yes. But positive and the negative. You know, they say, okay, free energy. Is there such a thing as free energy?

Well, the energy is there. It's free. You know, just go get it. But it's going to cost you to get it. And then it may cost you to clean up after you get it. You know, it's just like, you know, the nuclear energy, fossil fuel energy and all that. There's always a cost associated with it. Right. Right. Right. But the thing with this, the electron harvester, and the most significant discovery was made by Freedom and Freund, Dr. Freedom of Freund.

Who is he? Freedom and Freud, he's a physicist. He works at NASA. And he was studying earthquake lights. And his objective was to determine if by monitoring the earth at these seismic hotspots, if earthquake lights could actually be a early warning system for, you know, impending earthquakes. And so he was studying the earthquake lights of different areas around the world.

Okay. And there was one particular place that it became apparent that there was an earthquake coming, and that was in Italy. It was called the Akira, Akiah earthquake. but his discovery is really the, I think, the most important discovery in this century or the last century. Because you have a source of electrons that's directly under our feet. And so what I tried to do in a gaze of the Tesla solution was to highlight the idea that, you know, we have been making advances in semiconductor physics, you know, transistors and things of that nature. and we make a quantum leaps in understanding and function of devices that control the way electrons behave within a particular device,

like a cell phone or a laptop or something like that. Right. All of those are amazing advances, right? All those electrons are coming through wires. and generated, for the most part, from traditional power plants that are operating principally the same way they have for over 100 years. Right. Right. And so they basically boil water, create steam, push turbine blades, rotate, generators, and harvest the electrons, and then put it in.

you know, transmit it into the grid. Okay. Here, it's to recognize that all those electrons that you want are actually under your feet. And there are some areas of the world in the country that are more active in terms of earthquake lights than others. And certain areas that are more seismic. unstable than others. And so, you know, the question is, should a serious study be funded or followed to investigate whether we can actually access those electrons directly and use them rather than going through

the process of extraction of fossil fuels burning all the ancillary costs that you have transportation and stuff like that pollution but here you have

a battery under your feet why could we tap into it and draw that energy up so what what does Dr. Freund do about his theory he studied the effects.

He studied in his laboratory how to generate electron flow in different types of rocks, igneous rocks, like granite. What is the meaning of igneous rocks? What does that mean? It means it was formed as magma in the earth, as opposed to sedimentary rocks. Okay. Okay, got it. So the igneous rocks are, basically, they contain these peroxy defaults in the minerals.

And when they are stressed or pressure is put on them, they will migrate to the surface very rapidly. And he's demonstrated in his lab that he can take a granite block or bean of granite. he put it in a hydraulic press. He equipped it with electrodes and the monitor, oscilloscope. Put pressure on one end, squeezed it, and the electrons flowed from one pole to the other, one end to the other. Wow.

And he was able to measure it. That's an explanation for the earthquake lights. This is happening deep inside the earth near these seismic areas where there's fault lines and stuff like that. And when these giant rocks are being crammed together, these electrons are being released and they shoot out through the rock, up through the surface of the earth and into the sky.

Yeah. You want to show a YouTube video? Yes. Which video should we show? It's on YouTube. Okay. What's it called? It's Freedom and Friend. And is...

TED Talk and Christchurch, New Zealand. Okay. Friedman Freund, Ted Talk, and Christchurch, New Zealand. Okay, is that Dr. Friedman? That's Dr. Friedman. Okay. He's up in his 80s now. He's a wonderful guy.

Christchurchs to talk about earthquakes. There's no better place in the world, I would say, to talk about earthquakes. In particular, I want to give you hope. So if we look at the photo of the New Zealand islands, it looks so peaceful and placid. You see Christchurch on the left side. But on certain days, occasionally the earth speaks to us with a very violent voice and many of you have gone through this experience. I would like to present you with

the question, what if we would be able to see these earthquakes coming days before they arrive? Now, I worked, was the past 30 years at NASA in California. Before this, I was professor in Germany. And during that time, I was doing things that had no relationship. This guy was an operation paperclip, was he? I was studying single crystals. I started out working on very, very simple single crystals, totally, as I said, unrelated, never dreaming that what I would be working on could one day have influence and importance

for understanding earthquakes. Magnesium oxide, the simplest oxide material that exists, and I worked on it for a number of years, and I discovered something that everything. that everybody else had overlooked, had missed. And that is a defect, a type of defect in these crystals. And I should say a defect in our word of solid state physics is something that occurs, it's not a crack, it is something on the atomic, on the subatomic.

What I discovered was that in the crystal structure, like here on the lower left side, there are these defects that are totally invisible. Still now, we have no way how to directly observe this peroxy defects. But when we do nasty things to the crystal, they fall apart and produce electric charge carriers. Then I found the same kind of defects in other materials, including natural minerals, either from the crust or from the earth mantle. Almost every mineral seems to have these.

And if minerals have them, then of course, rocks would have them. So now I want to show you what you can do when you play around with rocks. So here is a four-meter-long piece of granite in my laboratory at NASA Ames. And all what I'm doing here is I put some contact. to the rock at the far end and the contact up here and I squeeze here. In the moment I start squeezing here, a current starts to flow through the unstressed rock. And if I put an amp meter, a pico amp meter in the circuit,

I can measure an electric current. And here you see this example measured from this particular four meter long piece of granite. In the moment, the green curve is the load. In the moment I start to load the rock, the current begins to flow. The current rises very, very rapidly at low stress levels, saturates, stays constant. Actually, we have measured this over a month. The current continues to flow if we keep it loaded.

This is a behavior that is reminiscent of semi-capta. Semi-Captor, the things from which you build transistors and hounds available in all electronics. Here at the bottom you see schematic on the right-hand side. The stress activates electrons and holes. Holes is a name for the defect electrons. These are electronic particles that are generated and that are actually necessary to be able to produce a transistor. And we found out that the electrons have to stay. in the stress rock volume while the holes can flow out.

They flow out at about 100 meter per second, which is about the speed of a jet landing in an airport. They are very fast. They are propagated through it, and in this particular experiment, the electrons have to come around through the wire and shake hands at the front end of this rock. Now, this is a combination of a semiconductor,

behavior, the formation of electrons and holes, and of an electrochemical battery. That means we can separate the positive holes flowing through the rock from the electron from the nekhazons that flows through the wire. This is exciting and this is new. Now let's do a goodunkin experiment. Take this rock and imagine that it would be sitting vertically in the earth crust and that this rock is not four meters long but a kilometer five kilometers 10 kilometers long 30 50 100 kilometers long if we are in a subduction

zone like you have it here on the North Island if that end of that volume of rock is being stressed by the enormous tectonic forces in the earth electricity is generated and under certain conditions this electricity flows out of the stressed rock volume and into the surrounding rock. And we have means to see these things flowing over a distance of tens of kilometers under natural conditions. These are amazing processes that had never before been properly understood. All these things we can now use to learn something about the stress state of rocks deep below our feet far beyond the direct reach we have to reduce their presence from these

indirect measurements. We can establish these causality ranges linked together by chemistry and by physics. I wanted to briefly mention this infrared emission. The infrared emission is when the charge carriers come to the surface, they can recombine. During this recombination these charge cares release energy and these two oxygians that you show there up, they become suddenly about 20,000 degrees hot vibrational and they emit bursts of infrared radiation. But one characteristic feature that these structures try to accumulate mostly on mountaintops on hill sides, not in the valley. Now I want to show you here, a result from a PhD thesis of Luca Pirotti.

in Italy, who had analyzed, I think, 18 months of Italy. Every night he looked for these anomalies. And prior to this earthquake in Laquilla in 2009, he identified this anomaly that you see here in red, with the loss of life of more than 300 people. And to the left and to the right, there are mountain ranges, the one that Gran Sasso are the highest mountains in the middle of Italy. And in the next slide you will see draped over exactly the same,

these map of the thermal infrared anomalies as they are measured three days before that disastrous earthquake. If anybody would have had the funding and the knowledge to analyze that how important the analysis is of these phenomena in real time, three days before the earthquake, they would have issued. a warning. Something is brewing. Something must be happening 10, 20 kilometers below our feet. Now, next I want to talk about these unipolar pulses. Unipolar pulses are strange phenomenon that suddenly within a fraction

of a second, enormous energy, electromagnetic energy, is emitted from deep below, only about 100, 150, 200 milliseconds long, shoots up and comes down with a little wiggle and disappears. They are not yet fully understood, we're working on it. Now here a situation where a friend of mine colleague, Hoche Herro, has operated for the past two and a half years, a station consisting of two search coil magnetomas extremely sensitive, and what you see there is in the subduction there is a rich, a submarine ridge, that's where earthquakes are being generated, and

That ridge is subducted and disappears underneath the edge of the South American continent. Now here is, I think, it is running. So here again the map, and you will see in a moment how these unipolar pulses are generated. And there are marked here by this is a period of about two weeks that you'll see displayed. And here they come. a few 10 minutes distance from each other in groups. Then there is a day

and a half of silence. No unipolar pulse. The next group is coming. Again, a little silent or there is another blip from somewhere far away. And then there is a third group of these pulses coming.

By now we have 2,500, more than 2,500 of these pulses. And they were associated with 22 magnitude 4 earthquakes 3.5 to 4 earthquake that happened in this subduction zone between the depth of 25 to 65 kilometers. And they were, Hoche Herot, is able to predict a time window of 40 hours, 3 to 6 days in advance, depositing the information in a closed envelope with the president of his university. and in all 22 cases that he has analyzed, he was right.

This is quite remand. Can we come to the next slide, please? It doesn't. Oh, yeah. So I've started my presentation with asking, what if we can see earthquakes coming? And I think I can say, I hope I've convinced you that by understanding the physics,

and this is really new physics, of how rocks respond deep, below to the increase of stress and how what they are producing electricity and how this electricity propagates through the earth crust. We can learn about the buildup of stress and we will be able to say, yes, we can see them coming days before they will arrive. We cannot be sure that every stress buildup will reach to an earthquake because sometimes the earth says, I don't feel like rupturing, I feel like sliding. And we see the precursors.

And people would say you have had a false alarm. No, we have not had a false alarm. The earth just had another day, another feeling. But in most cases, one thing which can make for sure, in the future, there will be no major earthquake that will hit any place in the world. where we have the capability of measuring these precursory signals will hit unannounced, unforent. Wow. So the element of utter surprise that has been a plague until recently, including the Christchurch

earthquakes, will be over. Thank you so much. Is anybody using this stuff to detect earthquakes now? No, that's another story altogether. And the seismologists are pretty much ignoring it from what I can understand. And why are they ignoring this? They prefer the traditional mechanical ways of detecting earthquakes. That's bizarre that all the mountain ranges surrounding that city were lit up.

Yeah, I know. By the earthquake lights, right? Yeah, right. God. And that's exactly, that's exactly analogous to what would have happened in the pyramids, with all of, with those vibrations shooting up through those giant, that giant pile of rocks that they built in the desert. Exactly, right. So the pyramids would have glowed similar. Yeah, I believe so. They, yeah, I mean, there has been an electrical phenomenon detected in the pyramids anyway. I mean, you know, as far as people noticing, you know, like tingling, there was one story about the William Seamons,

who was climbing the pyramid with a guide and he detected a ringing in his ear, and, you know, a little buzzing on his finger. He fashioned what they call a laden jar, which is kind of an accumulator of an electric, charge. You accumulated a charge. Yeah. And the guard was the guide who was

kind of bothering him, I think. I thought he was practicing witchcraft or whatever. And so he just held out the jar and shot the guard. The guard would howling. The guide went howling down

the side of the pyramid. So that's one of the anecdotal stories. that you get. I mean, that's rough, you know. So how did you in Freedom and Freud connect? So I had, on my 2018, lost technologies tour in Egypt, I had some really brilliant minds with me.

One of them is Robert Vorter, who is a sound engineer. Okay. And there was a geologist there. There was a... He looks like a sound engineer. Yeah. He's a front of house. Total roadie.

Yeah. Super geek. Yep, yep. He looks like a sound guy, right, right, Steve? He's also got a degree in archaeology. Oh, does he really? Oh, wow. Good for him.

That's besides a point. That's the least of his shame. But, no, and so I connected with Robert, and actually when I was writing the geese-power. because there was an aspect to the function of sound within the pyramid. And I had been told about Robert by a gentleman called Stephen Mailer, who was a friend of his at the time. So I called him up, and I just asked him a few questions.

And he was, yeah, yeah, obviously, yeah. talked about, you know, the harmonics in the Great Pyramid and other pyramids. So in like 2016, we lost contact, we lost touch for quite a while. 2016, I called him, and basically at that time I was pondering on writing another book, right? because a lot of happened since the first book and people were bugging me, when are you going to write it,

when are you going to update the geese power plant? I was like, maybe never, I don't know. But I really didn't think I had enough material to do a full book. It may have been a, you know, a new edition of the geese power plant. And so,

I went out to visit with him and spent some time with him chatting. We arranged to do the tour in 2018. Eric Wilson, who's an aerospace engineer, he came along. Adrian Lungan, who was a geologist,

he came along. There was entrepreneurs, there was other engineers, A lot of technical type people who signed up for the tour because it was basically just focused on technology. There was no other subject matter. Anyway, so while we were there, we were talking about the role that PISA electricity plays

in the production of electron flow in the granite, in the King's Chamber. And Adrian Lungan, who said, well, you know, it's reported in some bucks that it's 55% of the granite is quartz crystal, silicon quartz crystal. to in order for the piezoelectric effect to work the quartz crystal has to be stressed across a particular axis otherwise it doesn't work and because of the random orientation of the quartz in the granite it was seen to not be a very efficient way to generate electricity

Also, as a geologist, Adrian suggested that the amount of quartz in the granite was a lot less than what has been discussed in the past. Yeah, initially you thought it was like 80 to 90 percent and it ended up being... Initially, it was 55%. That's what I rolled in the Giza power plant, based on what I had read it. in other books. Okay. And then he said it may be more like 20%, maybe less than that. Okay.

So that kind of shot the Pizzo Electric aspect out of the water. Okay. And but I was like, there has to be something else. There has to be something else, right? And so Robert was just doing, he lives in, he lives in San Jose, California, in the foothills, overlooking Silicon Valley, right? And so he's poking around doing some research on granite and minerals and peas all electricity. And then one of his searches he came up with Freedom and Freund and started to look at his stuff. Okay.

Right. And so then he calls freedom and up, and they arranged to meet. And he went into NASA to meet with him and gave a presentation to the whole NASA group. And it was all about the pyramids and, you know, the energetic purpose for the pyramids and the resonance and acoustics of the pyramids and also the very, very fine manufacturing machining of the parts that go into it. And he presented all this stuff

in front of a bunch of NASA scientists? What was the reception he got from them? They're fascinated. I mean, I've talked to them too. They had a group, it's called a geocou. Cosmos group, it's not a NASA group, but it is a think tank that freedom and kind of form to study planetary issues, you know. Phenomenon, like earthquake lights and other subjects, but this group is comprised of scientists from all over the world. and so Robert was invited to join that group

and then when I started to get into writing the Giza Power 2 or the Tesla connection as it finally became I actually reached out to Friederman because I was trying to get

come to grasp with his research because if you read his scientific papers, they're heavily involved with, there's a lot of math to it, you know, obviously. And so most of that was above my head. But as you saw in that little video, he was talking to lay people and presenting his theory to lay people in general terms,

even though there were formulas in some of his, slides. He was not speaking, you know, above their head. You know what I mean? Yes. So he, is he completely on board with your theory? You know, I, he supports, he supports me, I think, as a person. I've never directly asked him if he, uh, supports what I am, what I'm doing. There's an appendix in my book that is a transcript of that Christchurch lecture. And so I got permission from him to include it in my book. And he actually went through it and edited it for clarity. Is that something you think he has to worry about, sort of like backing up your theory,

being somebody who's employed by NASA? you think he might be labeled as like a kook or something if he started saying that the pyramid was a power plant? Yeah, if he probably would be. I mean, that is normally people's reactions, but not so like a typical reaction. But the thing is with most physicists, and there are other physicists that I've communicated with is that when they, politics doesn't enter into their minds when they study in nature and trying to find answers to particular problems or phenomenon. The politics of it is something they have to deal with later. So it's like, you know, they're just going to go ahead and call it like they see it.

And then whatever the politics flow from that, I mean, it's just like anybody, you know, Einstein or Oppenheim or anybody who is breaking new ground and new thinking, they're eventually, they're going to be faced with the politics of what their creation has become. Yeah. And there's got to be a lot of politics around something like this. I mean, the implications of this idea is something that could change the future of humanity, the future of the human race. Like, if we could figure out how to power our civilization through using the Earth as a battery and using these rocks to generate electrons and have free energy, I mean, that's not a small idea. No, it's not a small idea. It's a, and it doesn't come at a small price tag either. Like, you know, I mean, there's, there's, uh. Compared to what?

Yeah, exactly. That's, that, that is a brilliant question because it's loaded. It's a loaded question. Compared to what, you name it. Compared to, uh, environmental controls, compared to, you know, the amount of coal that's in the earth now, the amount that we burn every year. Mm-hmm. compared to all the maintenance and ancillary activity that surrounds the creation of electricity that we're creating now.

Maintenance, oh my God. I mean, you know, you're talking about millions, billions of dollars. How much, you estimated exactly how much it would cost to actually go out there, take all the scientists out to the great pyramid, restore it and actually test it against your theory to see if it works the way you think it works. No, I did not. No, I wouldn't even dare. You kidding me? I mean, yeah, I may have balls, but they're not that big.

I don't have the, no, I don't have the gravity test to do something like that. Though in my book... Didn't you estimate it? No, no. there was an estimator who his job is to do cost estimations for building power plants. Okay. Okay. So he emailed me and he laid out a quote for what it would cost to create the Great Pyramid,

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Where would that money come? Where does that cost go to? Like what specifically does accumulate? What specifically does it take all that money to do? That's the extraction of the rock. The rock. The crafting of it, the transportation of it. That's just the rocks.

I think, yeah, but I really don't know. I mean, when we talk about building the pyramid today using our technology, the technology that we're familiar with, there was an estimate that was made by the director of the Limestone Institute in Indiana. His name was Merle Bucker. and he was asked for an estimate by Richard Noon, who wrote a book called Five Five Two thousand, very unfortunate title, but, you know, it was a good book.

It had a lot of good information. Five, five, two thousand? Yeah, it was a doomsday type of book, right? Well, he claimed the Earth was the world was going to end in your 2000? Yeah, yeah. Planet alignments, and there'll be a pole shift, and then everybody will fly off. A pole shift. But, I mean, Richard is a wonderful guy.

I met him. It's a great guy. And his book has loaded with information. Anyway, so he had included in his book the estimate that he got from Melbucker. And Mel Bucket said that the 33 quarries that they have around Bedford, Indiana, they would, if they tripled their output to quarry and cut enough stone to build the pyramid, the great pyramid, a great pyramid. It would take 27 years just to quarry it and deliver it to the site. That doesn't even mean putting it together.

They're just delivering the stone. And that's assuming no equipment breakdowns, no unions, strife, or, you know, labor problems or anything like that. Full, tripling the output. Tripling their output would take 47 years. And that was, the cost was what again? The cost, he didn't put a cost on it. He just said it would be 27 years. Oh, okay.

The $25 billion was to actually complete the pyramid. Oh, that was an estimate from this estimator in England. Oh, okay. So, I mean, that is like, you know, you have, ever since people have studied the Great Pyramid and wrote about it, there have been, you know, oh, I don't know. As many people who have opined about building it, you have that many different ideas of how many people it took and what they would do. and how they would do it. You've got estimates from 10,000 workers to 100,000 workers,

from 20 years to 100 years to build it. It's like there's nothing realistic or factual, really hard factual, that you can assert this is correct, this is correct, until you actually do it. and you have some results. So I don't know. I mean, we don't know how the Egyptians did it. And really, right now, we don't know how we would do it

because, you know, it's... Armchair theorists are not going to do it. They're not going to build it. You're going to need professionals who get involved and upgrade just about every technology that they're going to use in order to account. accomplish it. You know, whether it's a quarry worker who has to, or a quarry company that has to install precision machining that will hold tolerances on blocks of limestone to within 10,000s

of an inch instead of a quarter of an inch, which they may be currently working. And that's a huge step to take when you, because you have, you know, you know, When you look at craft skills, you go from like quarry working to woodworking to metal working, you've got machining, within metal working, you've got machining, you've got toolmaking, you've got gauge making, and all of those particular craft trades work to different tolerances. and the more zeros you put after a decimal point when it comes to the tolerance on a dimension, the more expensive it is to make

because it takes longer to make and the people who are actually creating it are paid more. So you pay more for a toolmaker than, say, a machinist. You pay more for a machinist than, say, a carpenter, you know. It's all about how much you invest in a person and how really adaptable they are to working to within those really, really tight tolerances, really small tolerance. Yeah, because even like the buildings that you see today, some of the, even the skyscrapers, if you were to measure the base of those skyscrapers, they're within, like, if I'm, if I'm correct, I think they're within a six inch degree of tolerance. They can be like the square.

They could be six inches off square and they can still build according to code like a skyscraper. Really? Yeah. I thought I got that from your book. Maybe not. No. Okay. But like, you know, you correlate the main thing about this precision is like you don't have to have precision without a function.

Like the the goal. precision is function, right? Like you don't, there's no need to make those things or these blocks, for example, in this European. They don't, what's the point of making them that precise unless they are, it's necessary for a function? Right. Exactly. The only other, the only other reason why they would be that precise is that they were employing tools and methods that were capable of no less of precision. So if you consider the quality of products that are made today, you compare your vehicle that's in the parking lot

with a vehicle that came out of Detroit in the 70s, and you look at the fit and finish on the body and the other components in the car, you see a big difference in the tolerance and the precision of those pieces. Like, you know, the way a door fits and the gap between the door. Right. Right.

So the evolution of manufacturing has been to actually eliminate variables in the system or variables in the process that allow for error to exist, allow for variance to exist. Okay. So when you talk about variance, you're talking about anything that varies from a perfect form. So you design a perfect form today and a computer in the past on the drawing board. This is a perfect form. Make me this.

Okay. How much can you tolerate from the person who's making it of variation from that perfect form that you define? Right. Right? Mm-hmm. And that's called the tolerance band. Okay. And so that tolerance band has been gradually getting small and small and small over the years.

To now, where, you know, like cell phones that they make in their millions, you know, the manufacturing process has been perfected such that everyone comes off almost perfect. But one of the big questions, like even posed in your book is when it comes to people challenging your idea. Yeah. Well, before we talk about that, before we talk about that, what sort of response have you gotten from, like, academia or Egyptology? Egyptologists on your first book, Giza Power Plant. Obviously, your second book's not out yet. But, like, what has been the response from people in general?

It is a radical, revolutionary idea that is totally divorced from what the historical records contain, what their records, what their theories are. And it's deemed to be a fringe pseudoscience. So when it comes to explaining certain features of the Great Pyramid like the Shafs, Egyptologists rely on magic. Yes, I noticed that in that video I was watching that you referenced in the book when they had a TV show where they were sending that robot up through the shaft, up to Gate and Brink's door to drill through the shaft. and the narrator was like, why would they end the shaft here?

Why would they put a door there? And then it would cut to some scholar saying that it's very obvious. If you use logic, the reason for that door is because Kufu's soul needed to open the door to reach the heavens. And you need a door. It can't just be a free-flowing opening to the heavens. There needs to be a door that he has to pass the roof. to get to the heavens. It's just logic. Oh, yes.

I was like, what? I don't, yeah, I think you may have embellished that a little bit, Daniel. No, I did. I underplayed that. You underplayed it. She literally said if you use logic, this may not be verbatim, but she did say if you use logic. No, no. She's talking about souls.

You got the wrong word. It sounds like logic. I mean, it ends in a GIC. it's magic magic no but I swear if you rewatch that she said logic she said logically she said logically

magic it's magic maybe I didn't hear it right you ought to pull up those clips do we have them yeah we'll show them after the break yeah so but they the point is these scientists that are being interviewed for this National Geographic video they're not they're

it's all spiritual and magic is their explanations for these things. Well, yeah, I mean, the explanation for all the shafts, the king is, Seoul can exit the pyramid and go into the heavens, right? And in that documentary, the narrator, asked the question, And but what about the Queen's Chamber? Why do they need four shafts? And why do they have handles?

And, you know, what about this blockage? And then she says, well, Mark Lainer, who is an American Egyptologist, believes that magic could be a part of it. And so then Mark Lainer opines about, well, You know, the Queen's Chamber is just a dummy chamber, and the soul would have no problem passing through limestone. Right. And that is what they call a false door.

So there's magic involved there. And then Rainer Staddleman, who is a German, a Egyptologist, he's in the King's Chamber, and he answers the question about the handles are what the call, you know, those metal fittings I had. And he says that those are magical instruments that the soul uses to lift the door so that he can pass through.

So you've got one Egyptologist saying, one has a problem passing through that limestone and then another one saying, well, you've got to have those magical instruments to lift it. and then I'm thinking, is there a soul? Has that been proven? You know, from a scientific perspective? I mean, that has been a long, you know, perennial question in people's mind, the existence of the soul.

Yeah. Have you ever had a conversation with Zahi Hoas about this? I have met him a few times. and the first time was in 19, no, 2001. I was supposed to meet him in 1995, but I didn't. In 2001, I was in Egypt filming with Grizzly Adams for the Pax Television, and he was going to be a presenter. also during that time.

And so after a day of filming, the field producer and I went up to his office. And, you know, he was very cordial, very kind. And which, you know, a very abelian, charming, charismatic guy. and we asked them, hey, we'd like to visit the Serapian. We'd also like to go in the Great Pyramid, which was closed at the time. And it had been closed for a while because of cleaning.

They were cleaning on the inside, which had kind of surfaced a lot of conspiracy theories about Zai Hawass digging a tunnel to explore behind Gantam Brinks door before they, you know, before they drilled it. So anyway, they, but so he gave us permission. We got inside the Great Pyramid and I was very fortunate to, to capture some photographs of the Grand Gallery ceiling where I noticed that there were scorch marks. And yeah, the place was definitely, I had definitely been cleaned. Even the ceiling of the Grand Gallery, which is 28 feet high, had been cleaned.

And you've noticed scorch marks? Scorch marks on the ceiling. Yes. Yeah. And basically a pattern that is similar, you know, kind of matched the resonator frames that I had theorized. were installed in slots in the Grand Gallery in the Giza Power Plant. Before we go into this resonator, when you taught, did you ever have a conversation with Zahi Huas

about the Giza Power Plant idea or about anything like this or no? No. No. No. Okay. Just curious. I, I, I, I'm not that stupid. I mean, I may be a little zany, but I'm not stupid.

Yeah. I kind of had his, you know, I had his measure. And I just figured, yeah. Yeah. He asked me what I was doing now. There was a meeting before the filming, and we met in the Sheraton Hotel in Cairo. Do you know if he's aware of your book? Do you know if he's aware of your book?

I believe he is now because it's becoming a hot property in Egypt. See, the thing is, and this is why I wrote my second book. lost technologies of ancient Egypt because, you know, in the Western world, there was obviously a huge wall of resistance to changing the history books on Egypt. But I wrote the lost technologies to appeal to Egyptian engineers to do their own studies. And guess what? This tiny end of the wedge. They did. And so now, Now, wow, just this last week, I got a message from two people. The first one was a video, YouTube video on Arabic television of them discussing my next book, the Tesla connection.

Really? These are the Tesla connection, yeah. So they were discussing that. Who were the people discussing it? Were these like young kids? No, no, it was a reporter. It was on national television. Oh, wow.

Yeah. And then just today, I see in my Facebook messages, a message from Amada Anwar, who was a principal in the Scam Pyramid mission team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. sent me a YouTube video of somebody discussing the pyramids of power plant. And so everybody in Egypt, I mean, not everybody, obviously, not everybody. But they, the youth, the young people, you know, in Egypt, are turning their back on the old,

Egyptian Egyptology model when it comes to the pyramids. And even some Egyptian Egyptologists are now saying no, the pyramid as a tomb is a dead theory. Yeah, not just one of them, a lot of them.

Really? Yes. Well, think about it. I mean, think about it. There you are. You've got some of the most amazing monuments and artifacts that this planet has ever produced within your country, right? Right. And you compare, you pair those with those produced in other countries,

like in Greece, Rome, Europe, anywhere. I think India would be a good contender for excellence in manufacturing. with their temples. But if you're in Egypt, you're Egyptian, and you're looking at this and you say, this guy is saying that the ancient Egyptians were more advanced than the Greeks, the Romans, or any other culture on the planet.

And they will rewrite their own history books. Not me. Ben was telling me that some people have even attacked Graham on this idea. they've gone as far as calling the idea that the Egyptians didn't build the pyramids as a racist idea. Well, who's saying that? Graham's not saying that. No, people are attacking Graham saying that that idea is a racist idea.

That's what Ben told me, because they said that if you say that the Egyptians didn't build them, you're saying that they weren't smart enough or intelligent enough to actually build these things. Well, that is a... Which is the implication, but they're basically, they're throwing bullshit into it, just trying to label him and slander him and basically discredit the idea by injecting drama, right? Yeah. And for people that don't read into it, people that just read the headlines, you know,

the lazy people that will see that and just like Graham Hancock, oh yeah, racist ideas. Yeah, those, yeah, the people who attack Hancock like that and me, by the way, because there are a few out there that are attacking me, they're just, building their own funeral pyre because they're going to get burned to the ground eventually. It won't be by me, it won't be by Graham. Right. Yeah. But the Egyptians are coming along.

They're very, very fine, intelligent engineers. And speaking of supporters in Egypt, I'll show you an image here. Galal Hassan, Dr. Galal Hassan. That's me, I'm presenting my book to him. He is Professor Emeritus, Mechanical Engineering at Cairo University. Oh, wow. Right. And so in his last paper, which was number 109, I believe, he dedicated it to me.

Mr. Dunn is a science lover of the ancient Egyptian civilizations who is keen to visit Egypt and spend some time between its monuments and heritage. I have been, I have the honor to dedicate this research work to him and hope my efforts will complete his work, clarify the sophisticate, easy for you to say, sophistication of the mechanical engineering technologies used by the ancient Egyptians. And he was, he actually got his PhD at Bradford University in England. All right, so going back to this grand gallery, you said that Zahi Hawass let you into the pyramid after it had been cleaned, granted you some special access, and you noticed at the ceiling of the Grand Gallery, which is how many feet tall?

28. That there were scorch marks. Yeah, so that's the photograph that I took. Right here, you see those scorch marks. Okay, what is this diagram here down on the left? Okay, so... Balls going up. This is what I, basically, I...

road in the Giza Power Plant was that there are 27 pairs of slots on the ramps, the side ramps of the Grand Gallery. Okay. So if you look at this area right here, you see the ramps, right? So that's looking into the Grand Gallery? Just looking along the length of it. Right. And so I speculated that the Grand Gallery had held these resonators.

And I had put the, you know, designed these resonators. I speculated maybe they were Helmholtz resonators. and but any you know a resonator that will convert vibration into sound airborne sound okay now that may not be a helmholtz probably wasn't but it was some kind some device that was caused to move and as it moved it produced a sound that sound was of a particular the frequency and the design of the gallery was such that that sound was naturally focused to that passageway that leads to the King's Chamber. I have the frames, right, and here you see that they line up with the scorch mark.

So in the Giza Power Plant, I proposed that there was a hydrogen explosion in the King's Chamber. And the evidence that exists that prompted me to speculate that was the Petrie, when he was doing his measurements, noted that the King's Chamber was expanded. It had expanded from its original dimensions about half of any. How did that explosion happen, do you think? hydrogen explosion. I would speculate that there was a time in history when you had this

remarkable civilization that were in possession of advanced science, advanced engineering, advanced mechanical machining, and all of those facilities that we use daily to keep our civilization going existed at some level. Maybe not as sophisticated as ours, maybe more sophisticated as ours. But then there was a cataclysm of some kind.

You know, we're talking about different periods of time in history, whether it's 9,000 years ago, 10,000, 12,000. You know. Yeah, based on ice cores that have been taken out of Antarctica, they determined that the world was heated up in like an instant to like incredible, incredible heat and then flash frozen. It's just after that. And there's been evidence and people like Randall have done research on this

that they've found evidence of meteors or comets hitting the earth over a period of a thousand years. That's called the Younger Drives. So that is the, and then, you know, I think Robert Sharks' view is the coronal mass ejection. So all of those things may have been working at some point in time. The comet strike is probably, I think for me, the most convincing in terms of the effect that it had on the pyramids. because the pyramids were built, were finely tuned to resonate to the frequencies of the earth. And so they were drawing energy out of the earth.

And there was a known quality. So their relationship was like, okay, we're building it to withstand a certain amount of power to come through it. and then a comic strikes. Okay? Right. And so there's, as long as we were a contained system, working with known energy levels, everything functioned okay.

Right. But when you introduce energy from an outside source of such a massive amount, then the couple, oscillator, which becomes what is known as a runaway vibrator. In other words, it cannot, it cannot pass through the amount of energy that it is receiving. It just can't handle it. Which cause the hydrogen explosion. Which causes, you know, first of all, the probably shook apart. You have, you have a closed system the

the blocks were stripped off the outside whatever mechanisms that were attached to the shafts on the outside the King's Chamber shafts were removed it was exposed from air oxygen

entered into the King's Chamber mixed with the hydrogen and then the spark just set it off maybe coming from the outside right and down into the pyramid. Right. So everything inside,

all the intricate parts inside these chambers and these shafts, like the shaft here would have been fried, causing the scorch marks on the ceiling. Now, did you, when you came up with this diagram of these frames with these round things in the middle, what are those round things supposed to be? Well, resonators. I identify them as resonators.

Now, of different frequencies. So they resonate at different frequencies. And did you come up with this diagram before you saw the scorch marks? Like, did you theorize that that's what it would look like inside the Grand Gallery before you saw those scorch marks? Well, it was in my book in 1998. And I didn't know about the scorch marks then. And the scorch marks weren't visible until 2001. When they cleaned it.

After they had cleaned it. Wow. Yeah. I mean, there's more, too. I don't know if we're going to have time to get it. Let's go deeper. Let's go deeper, Mr. Dunn. I'm going to have to talk to my union rep.

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