Danny Jones Podcast - #212 - NASA's Forbidden Alien Study Finds Proof of Spiritual Beings | Chris & Emily Bledsoe

Episode Date: December 4, 2023

16 years ago, Chris Bledsoe had an Alien abduction experience and the government was the only one that listened. Chris continues to experience the UFO Phenomenon on a daily basis. EPISODE LINKS Buy UFO of God: https://a.co/d/8XAJVvs https://ufoofgod.com SPONSORS: https://marekhealth.com/danny - Use code “DANNY” at check out and save 10% off your first lab order. https://seed.com/danny - Use code "DANNY" for 25% off your first month. FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/jonesdanny https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - The Cape Fear river encounter 09:01 - What did the UFO look & sound like? 15:44 - Being chased by a UFO 22:16 - The phenomenon's connection to suffering; Dead mans curve 30:07 - The glowing child-like being 39:55 - How the Church reacted to orb stories 46:12 - When did the orbs start appearing? 51:27 - The Burning Tree 54:38 - Appearance of The Lady and the Bull 01:06:29 - The star of Regulus 01:09:16 - Meeting Diana Pasulka 01:15:05 - Being visited by NASA 01:16:14 - Paranormal experiences 01:17:41 - MUFON & Poor Discovery Documentary 01:20:42 - Telepathic communication from aliens 01:30:55 - NASA Scientist investigating Bledso Family 01:38:15 - US Pentagon interest in Chris 01:47:05 - The infamous / anonymous NASA Engineer 01:57:09 - Chris' strange connection to 'meta materials' 02:07:06 - The NASA scientist who mapped the moon 02:10:57 - Missing time 02:24:32 - Alien sightings at NASA launch site 02:32:54 - Studies done on Chris' brain 02:38:20 - Video Evidence of Orbs off Shore 02:50:30 - Healing powers? 02:58:38 - Stories of healing people & animals 03:08:24 - Comprehending Being Able to Heal Others 03:09:52 - How to explain the Bledso experiences Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thank you so much for coming down here and doing this. It's an honor and I'm very grateful for you guys spending the time and we timed it perfectly with your birthday. And we had a quite an amazing experience last night on the beach. So what was it we were seeing last night on the beach? That's the first time I've ever seen anything like that. It's also the first time I've ever stared at the sky for that long, I think. There was a lot of air traffic. We could see a lot of planes flying around.

We could tell what they were. There was obviously a very dense highway of airplanes landing in Tampa that were coming off the beach. But there were some things that we saw that were definitely not airplanes that were moving in weird directions with the lights, right, getting very bright and then going very dim to where we couldn't see them anymore. What were those orbs? Well, they were the orbs. And the question of what are they is an ongoing study. That's research that we're all trying to figure out. It would have been much closer.

But I think all the traffic and the population from the beach kind of makes it more shy. Yeah. So to sort of give you an introduction, Chris, out of all the people that I've talked to involved in this phenomenon, I have a lot of people on the podcast before who have spoken about it and studied it for years. And it seems to be the consensus that you are one of the most, if not the most credible person that has ever experienced this phenomenon. As I told you earlier, my friend Andy Bustamante, who was here a couple weeks ago, was telling me that through all of his experience filming that show that he was doing for History Channel, the Beyond Skinwalker show, the night that he spent with you witnessing those

orbs in the sky out of everything else he said that was the one thing that stuck out with to him the most and it was the one thing that was truly unexplainable and real at the same time hey guys I want to ask you a quick favor over the last few months

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The CIA, DIA, FBI, NRO, and even the Vatican seem to be very interested in you. and they also seem to have their hands in this. So can you go ahead and explain how this whole thing started for you? I mean, I know you've told a bunch of the stories before on other podcasts, and your book goes through it very well, UFO of God. Incredible book. Thank you. Incredible book.

This nearly 17 years ago, we were, let's say, over 17 years ago. In 2006, we had sold a company that was going down the tubes because of the deserts, not the desert storm, but the 911 attack when they blew up the World Trade Center. I got caught with too many houses for sale. I was a builder, contractor, and had been successful for nearly 20 years.

and building anywhere from 80 to 120 homes a year. My wife and I had a remax realty company. She sold them. I built them. But when they destroyed the tower, it locked the Fort Bragg, which is where we live, now called Fort Liberty, I think.

But it'll always be bragged to me. So the soldiers quit buying homes. Most everybody did. It just threw the housing market. And two, it was the start of the housing collapse. It further collapsed in 2008 completely. But I was in a bad way. I was dealing with Crohn's disease and had been since I was a young guy in my 20s.

And at that point, it started getting worse and worse and worse because stress makes it worse, right? So I had the worst dress, trying to hide the fact that I'm shelling out everything I ever on, money, apartments, was going out the window to try to keep this company, at least to pay the interest on the notes. So we sold the company in 2005, and I'd had a near-death experience in 2004 from being over-medicated. It's in the book. It's a very tragic thing that happened. and my daughter died from an overdose that he was on drugs himself, some kind of medication he was taken,

and he put 113 people in the hospital, and I was one of them. So that was a severe setback going through that, along with what I was already dealing with. And that was one reason the company had to be sold. So let's fast forward to 2006. Along about October, I accepted a job. My dad arranged to go oversee a home big house on the ocean at Holden Beach, North Carolina. Four-month-long job, it was over by Christmas, and we had to finish it up to get paid to less 10% after Christmas on the New Year.

So I sent the guys back down to the coast to do their job. and bring a check back for the retainer. And they did. And this was January the 8th of 2007. They called me and said, we have, we finished a job, and we got you a check, and we want to celebrate. Can you take us fishing in a day?

I said, well, sure, I guess. My wife was out of town with her, or with the rest of the kids. It was just Christian, Jr. and so they came in, got their checks, broke mine, or my dad's actually, and they went to the bank and came back about 2 o'clock and said, let's go. And so I followed them to their house, picked them up at 2.30,

and away we went to the river fishing. And this is how it all started. You know, from the reason I went through this is because it's important. It's one of the most important things in the world for anybody to know about this phenomena. of 17 years nearly of research that I've been doing. It came because I was in the worst suffering way. I was at the bottom ready to give up on life. I was crying out to whoever's up there.

You know, help me. Why? I'm 45, 46 years old, and I have to get free lunches at school now for my children. And just moving out of a million-dollar home with a pool in the back. My kids have lived, you know, with that standard for most of their life. So it was a big thing,

and I was suffering bad from it, crying out to the skies. I left these guys fishing. I left them fishing about 3 o'clock. I walked away, and I just never did pull out a pole. There's my son and three other guys were sitting on the bank of the Cape River River,

a little small river, about 70 yards wide. and I said, I'll see you later. And I walked away up about a quarter mile to the field to where we came across this cornfield. It turned off the paved road, drove right through the middle of the field on a little two road to the back side and to the tree line. And when you get to the trees, you go downhill 100 feet to the river. And when you, before you run into the river, you make a right and parallel the river or another eighth. of a mile to a cul-de-sac. So it's a quarter-mile walk out of that cul-de-sac up to the hill.

When I got near the top of that hill, I noticed what I thought was the sun setting. It's about 10 after 5, 5.15 in the evening in January, so it gets dark, you know, about 5.30, the sun sets. and I'm probably 50 feet from the top of that hill so I'm looking up at the gate. The gate is up at the top of the hill. But you can't see the field because it's elevated, right? And the higher I got up, the wider my field of vision became. So I'm looking down a road that has trees straight up on either side of me really close.

So I had a narrow field of vision. And so the closer I got to the top, I saw what I thought was the setting sun. And so I looked down to take a few more steps because I'm walking through mud and bushes and it's dark, almost dark where I'm at now. And four or five more steps up that hill, and that's when the shock came. I began to see a second one instead of what I thought was the same. sun, the top edge of it. When I made a few more steps up, I could see the top edge of two sons. And I knew right then that this wasn't anything that we had. And the reason I knew that instantly is because I'm commercial-rated pilot, and I have studied it all my life and love

it, and I can name every airplane from World War II to today, pretty much. And I So shock came real quick. I am afraid what I'm looking at. So I dropped to my knees using the hill to hide me from these objects. Thought I was hiding. And so I sat there and I kind of crawled out of the road to the ditch because the weeds were real tall in the ditch. And so I'm buried myself in these weeds.

And I start crawling and inching up the hill to where I could see. see and I peeked my head up and they're still there and I don't know how long I was there standing or kneeling in these weeds on my knees you know using these this waist tie of grass and and what we call reeds or cane which is down near water wet areas right and I begin to ponder everything I'm looking at and my son, he's in these guys behind me fishing, I thought maybe I should get back down to where they are. So I turned my body to point downhill, and I'm still hiding. I thought, you know, I've got this hill up above me.

I could raise up and I could see them. I lowered down and I couldn't see them. So the minute I decided to run, when I made that decision, I was thinking about it. But when I turned my body to actually run, I look back one more time when I stood up to see if they were there. And when I did that, a third one, same thing, same size, 40 foot, 50 foot round, blood red to orange balls of fire. Just what we saw on the water last night. That one of those looked like it come up out of the water that she found.

Yeah. Right. and so the next thing I remember is walking up to the fire trotting up they couldn't see me because they're standing around the fire

and it's burnt down to a little campfire now and we had a big blazing fire there when I left and they were just standing there and I could see them from the fire glowing on them I didn't have a flashlight so they didn't know I was coming until I got right up on them and I said hey you want to

believe what I just saw at the top of the hill and they looked at me and said where have you been I said what do you mean where have I been I was just up at the top of the hill just 20 minutes ago and they said no you've been going on night and so I couldn't ponder I couldn't imagine what they were saying it just did not connect with me I argued the fact no I've been going 20 minutes there's no we've been looking you all night and I realized Chris Juner was missing and so I kind of freaked out, worried about him, because I knew the direction they pointed. He went in the back of the cul-de-sac along the bank of the Cape River River, which is real rugged and valleys and big trees.

It's just a place you can get lost real easy, and he was in there looking for me. So I took off immediately and ran to the back of that cul-de-sac, shouting for him, still not understanding that I've been gone but 20 minutes, right? To me, that's what had just passed. And when I found him, he was in shock. He was laying on his stomach and had backed up under the undergrowth in the back of that cul-de-sac. Wouldn't answer me until I almost stepped on him.

I'm trying to get in the woods to look for him. No flashlight. And what had happened with Chris Jr., was when about an hour after I was gone, he realized that I should have been back by now. It's dark. So he started bugging the guys. We need to find my dad.

Where's he at? So they got in the truck and drove looking for me. Left one guy at the fire. And two guys in my truck drove up and down across the field, out on the highway. They went everywhere looking for me. Chris Jr. went on foot into the cul-de-sac because I had actually walked in there.

for a little while before I went up to the field. And he had what he saw, what he said he saw, was he could see all the way down the road, the path from the back of that cul-de-sac to where it turned and went up the hill. So he had a good, probably a quarter-mile view of that road. And the trees grow over the road, So it's like a tunnel, you know, you come through real thick stuff.

And while he was looking at me, he saw a red ball of light, like an orb. He described two red balls of light across the road way up, about a, you know, a little less than a quarter mile. And they went in on the riverside. So he ran back to the fire, which is toward the orbs, right? He had to run back toward them. And they were sitting on the bank. So the road parallels the river, and they're part of the way ahead of him on the right, right on the back.

So he runs up there and he tells them what he saw. And they were like, don't kid around, you know, what are you doing, Junior? They took it as a joke, right? He's a grown man saying, you mess them with this, Jr. Don't mess with it. So he runs back to the back of the cul-de-sack again, looking for me. And he sees the same two balls of light come out of the, riverside now back out in the road and here they come to and towards him so he began to

hide he tried to hide so he backs himself up under this rub so around the field if you're familiar with in our area and even here the edges of any field is really thick undergrowth you got all this thick stuff once you get in the forest it opens up right so he's trying to hide under this thick stuff. And what he described when I was walking him back to the fire was that these two balls of light came all the way to him. The closer he got, the more he got afraid. Then he started hiding.

And they got about 15, 20 feet from him. And there were two little beings, about three feet tall. It had red glowing eyes. So they looked like individual orbs when you saw them. But when they were closer, two little eyes about this big. And he couldn't shout, he couldn't scream. He was paralyzed the whole time he was laying there. I was just afraid.

And so I took him back to the fire. And funny thing was, these guys were freaked out now. They were really freaked because what I was talking about, I'd seen up at the top of the hill. And what Chris Jr. is talking about now got them even more distressed. suddenly one of the guys shouts look and we all look up to the heavens and it looked like eight or nine stars

orbs like you saw last night these big they were white though they were glowing huge and white and they just went around in circles and like they were chasing one another and they'd go out and they'd come back together and then three of them landed in front of us about 75 yards away across the river and that's when pandemonium sat in.

We ran, left the poles in the water, coolers, everything they had, we just left it. Jumped in my truck and took off out of there. And when we got back to the top of the hill, where I was looking, you know, I was hiding, well, the same three orbs are sitting there. Two of them are in the same spot. But the third one that appeared and came down is now on the road in front of us. It's just about 150 yards away between us in the highway, and we couldn't drive forward. We didn't want to go back because we just left three on the riverbank.

And so you can imagine the fear that was in my truck. My son, he was in bad shape. These three guys were freaked out bad, but the weird thing, Danny, was I wasn't afraid anymore. I'd lost all my fear somehow. I was curious. I wanted to get out and walk up to it, but they won't have a no part of that. And that was one weird thing I couldn't figure out is it took my fear away.

I was afraid when I first went up and saw it to run down the hill. But as it appeared again, I was mesmerized. I wasn't afraid, but they were terrified. There was everything happening from crying to, this is the last time I see my family. Please give me home. They started fighting who was going to go home first. It's all in the book.

But that's how it all started in 2007. So after this experience and you guys started driving the truck home, was there anything else that happened after you got home? How far away did you live from the river? How long of a drive was it? Okay. That was only the beginning when we got to the field. Now we're sitting up in my truck, five of us,

with this object sitting in the road halfway to the road, and two up over the road. And suddenly we heard three gunshots. We don't know who was shooting. Mufon, and everybody investigated that. They went around the neighborhoods looking for witnesses, and they found eight different witnesses. Hal Pobbamire from NASA found and interviewed eight different people

that saw it that night. They were sitting on the porch when they flew over or whatever. So after the gunshots, this object in the road, it's not sitting on the road. It's hovering five feet off the road. It's about 40 to 50 foot long. It looks like an egg or it looks like if you took a round ball or let's say a raindrop and you set it on the ground and it just kind of flattenes out,

kind of egg shake. It's the orbs around in the sky, but when it's sitting on the ground, it looks like a football. And it just pivots. It don't turn, it don't lean, it just pivot straight at us, and here it comes down the road to us.

So it goes right over our truck, about 50 feet above the truck. I could have shot it with a slingshot through the sunroof of my truck. when it went over. And it pivots again to the north and it blast off like a gunshot at Poo. I took off.

Couldn't go fast enough for these guys. They were screaming, yelling. Halfway down that road to the first house we had to stop, two and a half miles away, halfway in there is this curve, this really sharp curve, dead man's curve. I grew up that curve.

Everybody in our community knew about that curve. And it was so sharp. If you try to go around it more than 35, the car just bound up, you could feel it. On the edge of losing control. And the crazy thing is, is in 2000, shoot, 1988, 82, 81. was married to a different lady that died.

She died in that curve. And I found her of all the weird things. I wasn't home. I was at the coast and I came home and drove up on her after she'd turned the car over and killed her right there. So this orb, huge thing, was hovering right over where she got killed. and we had to drive up under it and I tried to get out.

I wanted to get out and look at it and they won't have no part of it so we had to move on. But what it did, the reason I brought this up is what it did, it spoke to me in a way that I understood in these images. It went right in my head

and I relived the whole thing that happened that night in 82. And it said, don't worry anymore. this is not your fault because I had thought it was my fault. I should have been there, but I wasn't. I was out of town hunting that day with my father. And so I'd carried that for all those years, this feeling of guilt.

And it was removed that not right away. And so I had to put that in there because it's really important to understand the phenomenon. I don't like to talk about this, but if people are going to understand it, how it reacts. It reacts based on emotion, suffering. Thousands of people reach out to me about this, and they'll all say the same thing. When they started seeing it, they lost the family member. They lost their husband, their wife, a child. Pretty severe suffering brings them, and this is something everybody that studies this is aware of. So we left there

Never stopped. Never stopped. We were down to about 10 miles an hour. I was trying to hit the break. They were pounding on my seat, go. And so I hit the gas, ended up having to go four miles further and take the furthest guy home first

because they were fighting who got to go home first. Dropped him off, came back, and dropped the other two guys off. and then on the way home we went the long way because we didn't want to go back under that same curve where that or was said and my son didn't want any part of it so anyhow we get to the house Chris Jr. is running through the house locking every door

turning every light on inside outside and he would go in the bathroom even when the windows he turned the light on and locked the door he was that afraid I was at my study trying to find anything on TV. We just knew we were being invaded the whole world. You know, that's what we thought. And I couldn't find anything.

It was just a normal night, you know, and it was the weirdest thing. We couldn't compute what had just happened and nothing's going on on television. And so when Chris gets all his lights locked and doors locked and lights on the whole house, he runs back to where I'm at. suddenly the dogs start going crazy.

My dad lived next door, and he had 15 hound dogs in a kennel. He'd raised them all his life. Upwards of 100 dogs at one time, 104. So he's always raised dogs, right? So I know there are sounds. I know they're different barks, and suddenly this whole pen full of dogs is barking in a fearful way.

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www.edu. And so we had this Chesapeake Bay retriever, a 110-pound dog standing on the back doorsteps. She's just sitting there. And she was growling and she was barking at the same time. So I walked up to the back door and I could see her through the door. And Chris Jr. has got me by the shirt. Please, Dad, don't go out there. Don't go out.

I'm like, son, somebody's breaking into Dad's shop. Because his garage is next to the kennels, plain view of the kent. So all the dogs could see the garage. And I had a lot of stuff in that garage. I still do. My mom's house. And all our tools and welders and boats and fishing gear, I just knew somebody was stealing something, right?

And the dogs could see it. And so I talked junior into walking quietly with me with no flashlight, using our Chesapeake to stay in front of us, keep us safe. I just wanted to walk over and see if I could see who's getting in that shop, try to scare them away. And when I opened that door, Rosie took off straight toward the kennel where the dogs were. She ran out about 40 yards and looked back and then took on off.

So Chris and I snuck our way up to the dog kennel, and when we got there, the weird thing was all the dogs were looking behind the pen. in the woods, not toward the garage. And they were all barking, every one of them. It was a pretty long kennel. We put a whole lot of dogs in there, and it was, you know, just imagine a 50-foot-long kennel with dogs in each pen, and they're all facing the back.

And Rosie, the Chesapeake, is pointing. She's froze, and she's looking into the woods the same direction as the other dogs. And Chris and I are standing there. And I said, this is really weird. Maybe it's a bear or something has snuck in here. And dogs are usually afraid of a bear. They'll sound different.

And so I said, Jr., I'm going to send Rosie in to whoever's in there. She'll run them out, whatever it is, deer or whatever. I don't know. But we made a plan. We're going to send her in, and we were going to run back around to our property. So it was two lots. They were on my dad's property or on his lot, right? So we were going to go back to ours

and see if she pushes something out across and front of us, just to see what it was. So I sent her in the woods. She took off, wide open parking. And so Juner and I ran, hard as we could, down this path back to the backyard. And I had to make a left and go to the back of the property, another 60 yards, I guess, run.

So I had to run fast. to stay in front of whatever's coming out of there. And what I didn't know was, Chris had me by the back of the shirt the whole time. He didn't want to turn me loose. When I made that left turn to go to the back, he pulled away from me. I thought he just turned a loose.

I actually slipped a little bit. It was sprawled on the ground. And I didn't know it, but he had all he could stand. He ran back to the house, opened the back door, and went in and locked the door. I didn't know that. I thought he was still behind me running.

So I ran all the way to the back, and I knew where there was a big oak tree back there I could run up to and stop myself. You had to do this quick. His dogs, usually something in front of a dog, will be way ahead of them. So I knew I had minutes to see what was in there. So I run up to this stop,

to this tree in a full run, stop myself, and I'm trying to catch my breath. I'm panting, I'm panting, but I'm trying to be quiet, right, because I didn't want to scare whatever's coming toward me. I could hear the dog coming. It wasn't far. It's probably 20 yards in the woods coming to my direction.

So the minute I hit that tree, I turned around to see if Junior is coming behind me, and Junior won't there. But what was there, from me to you away, probably four foot, I could have leaned over and touched it with my hand. Good thing I didn't. Somebody from NASA told me it would have killed you if it did, could have the energy from it.

So there was a being standing there just like Junior described. It was that he saw on the river. It was three, three and a half feet tall. It looked like a child, not like a gray alien you would think about, people talk about. It was a little glowing color of the moon. soft glow. Three and a half foot, four-year-old. It looked like a four-year-old child.

Head and face was a little different. Definitely want human. Eyes were glowing red. They looked mechanical. When you look at them, they look like the little markers on a transfer truck, the side marker. You see these little round lights along the side. They were about that size, inch and a half.

It had this triangle on its chest. glowing. This thing was glowing, but it had a dark section that won't glow. It was in shape of a triangle. And I knew I was in trouble. The minute I saw it now, it's all happened so quick. I ran against that tree and I stopped myself and I look back and I'm like, oh my God, what do I do? So I got closer to the tree. I didn't want to get closer that way to turn around. So I backed my back against a tree and I'm facing this thing. And I said, I surrender. I mean you no harm.

I'm sorry. You know, I'm not here to, I was just, I surrendered to it. I just knew I was dead. And I heard this voice say, you don't understand we're not here to hurt you. We're here to help you. About that time, Rosie comes out of the woods. She's still coming. She's still tracking whatever it is.

And it just vanished right in front of me. just disappeared. Instead of telling Chris Jr. what had just happened, I walked back up at the house and he's standing in the back door looking for me. And I was scared to tell him anymore because he was in shock, right?

And that wasn't the end. I was a smoker back then. I had to have a cigarette. I just had to have one. I was just basically hyperventilating. I had smoke. So I walked up. to my study, I have a couch with the sunroom, had windows all the way around, and my couch

was backed up to these windows. So I put my knees on the couch, and I reach over the back. I start to raise the blind, and Junior's freaking out, don't open the blind daddy. Don't, don't. He was pleased on. And when I raised it up about halfway, I was going to open the window and smoke and blow it out the window, right? But he had all the lights on around the house, and there were this thing, this being, a tall one, I don't, I drew it, I painted it, but it's not, my wife thinks it's too scary, so she hid my painting away. Right. Did she really? Yeah. Yeah. So it's a four-foot-tall painting. And she saw the same thing. Is it scary, Emily? It was a conversation piece in our house back in the day for sure. She turned it around and hit it somewhere. I don't know where it is.

now. It's in the pod. Somewhere in storage. She won't let me bring it out. But anyhow, that's what I saw coming about 20 yards outside that one. And remember all the floodlights were on, so I could see it perfectly. How tall would you say it was?

Seven foot. It freaked me out so bad that I shut the shutter down without telling Chris Jr. anything. I'm trying to protect him as a dad, right? So I pulled the blind down, grabbed him by the hand, ran out the front door jumped in my truck and we drove about five miles away to a big hayfield set in the very middle

of the hayfield until daylight the next morning afraid that was the beginning and the end of january the 8th of 07 believe it or not he did leave out details it's a big story but they're all in the book yeah so that seven foot being what would you how did that thing look Was there any details you could see? Was it, did it look like it was a real biological thing you could touch? It was a tall, two-legged, two-armed humanoid figure that looked more tan looking than gray. But it's similar to these gray aliens that you hear people talk about. You always said it had human eyes.

Yeah. It was huge. it had human eyes sort of yeah bigger but it looked more human looking but it was alien though with the pupil and like an iris

or was it just all one color it wasn't all one color but the way it looked at me and yeah it was it was a scary thing so I haven't seen those since but it was there It was on my property. And usually I've heard stories that they kind of run together,

these taller guys and these small ones, but I don't know. I have no clue. So out of all the people that were there with you that night, other than your son, has anyone else corroborated any of that? Yeah, they do. They told their story. The guys that were there with you. Yeah.

They went on the Discovery Channel and told the story, just like we do. and they reported to Mufon. I have all their interviews from Mufon, and they all corroborated every bit of it. And what happened with them was the same thing with me. They had children, my children's age, or older, or younger. All three of them married with children. And they were just good old country boys that worked for my dad

as subcontractors with families, and they all were all. went to school with my kids, the most of them, either elementary or middle school or high school. And so when the Discovery Channel made their show in 2008, they made a circus out of us. They made me look like I was crazy and a liar, and they tried to discredit all of us. When they told us different, they were going to vindicate us. That's why we all agreed, because we were catching so much slack from the community. It became worse

because of that documentary. My children were at school and they would get made fun of and she'd come home crying from teachers and the kids in school making fun of what was going on, right? So that was that shut them up

to never want to talk about it ever again. That's why you don't hear much from them. So after this happened, Did you tell anybody else? Did you tell your family immediately, or did you keep it to yourself? Yeah, I told everybody. I thought it was the most wonderful thing on planet Earth.

You know, we're not alone. You know, we've always been told that nothing exists. Even people say God doesn't exist. So it's all faith, you know. It's only us. And we were created by evolution. just time, you know, enough time anything can create itself. That's what they say.

So I just experienced something that what I didn't say was the next day when we left the hayfield and came home, I came home and was worried about my medication because they had to take medicine every day. And if I missed it, I would get worse. Couldn't miss one day. It just had to stay regular. And I didn't feel sick the next morning.

And I didn't take any medication. Just for the Crohn's. For the Crohn's. And I haven't had a symptom since then, period. Went away that night. And I was so sick that she can tell you I was in the bathroom 20 times a day, 25 at the worst, when it was at the worst point. That's what Crohn's does to you.

Very painful, you know, it's intestinal disease. Right, right, right. So I told the world, you know, this is what happened. Suddenly I became a lap and stop, and I was playing with demons. You were playing with the devil himself. And for long, the churches were coming. I'm sprinkling holy water on my kids, on my house, on my property, on me. Really?

Yeah. Like when you would go to church? Well, I wasn't going to church then because I was told if you can't come if you ever talk about this again. So I'm like, I'm going to talk about it. And so I never went back. And how did word get spread? Like, like Emily, you said you saw the people at school were like cracking jokes. How did everyone find out about it?

Well, it's a small community, and, you know, dad was born and raised. Our generations of our family are from that area, and so the people that are from there know each other very well. And dad and my mom also were prominent business people in town, so everyone knew who we were anyway. And so when one person found out about this, oh, Chris Bletsu is crazy, the whole community finds out. And then you go to the grocery store and people, you know, recognize. you and know things and people at school. And then the documentary came out a year later, and it was impossible to keep it hidden from everybody.

Good Lord. It sent the first five years, I call five years of darkness. And that was the first year it happened. The second year after the Discovery Channel did their thing, from the second year on, it just got worse. I mean, it got so bad that I didn't want to ever talk about it again. And I actually went outside and shouted to the heavens, I'm done with you. You know, why do you do this to me?

Why is my children affected now? You came in and you healed me and now I've got this problem. Right. And it's important to note that through these five years of, you know, we call darkness, not because of the phenomenon, because in those five years, we were having continued experiences together and separately. Like I was 10 years old when this happened in 2007. And throughout all of those years,

we were seeing things and then going and being ridiculed publicly and, you know, in different circles while we were still having the experiences. So there was a lot of like cognitive dissonance there with like, oh, we're actually seeing it, but nobody believes us and it's still happening. So this first experience sort of, unlocked a whole bag of other experiences on everybody.

Absolutely. On all of us, yeah. Even you last night. So what other types of experiences are we talking about? Well, go ahead. You can talk. I mean, anything you can think of, really, I've seen things, we've seen things like jump off of the table without being touched, like moving, things moving on their own,

seeing shadow figures being touched. anything like you would think it was a haunted house growing up but that's you know part of how we explain that this is all spiritual in nature is because it can really manifest in any way that it wants to and so the phenomenon is not limited to what people think of as aliens or UFOs where we were obviously seeing orbs every night as well we were seeing things in the home that you would think of as like ghostly maybe yeah but it was all the same. the same stuff. When did the orbs, the orb sightings start immediately after? Never quit from 2007 that night. It just continued to the day. So from then on, you just started noticing things in the sky?

It was in my face. It was, yeah, I mean, I write about it in the book. So many stories that we didn't write about. I wrote 140,000 words for this book and we published 85,000 or 90,000. That's including the introduction. So there's a lot that we didn't include. Daddy would wake us kids up because mom didn't really like, you know, the conflict with the phenomenon. So she didn't really encourage the experiences, but dad would secretly wake me and my two other brothers,

Ryan and Jeremy up at like whatever time of night. And we would go out on school nights at 2 a.m., 3 a.m., and just look at orbs in the yard, right, in our face. and then we would go to bed and go to school the next morning, like nothing happened. Some of these orbs would be 50 feet around and 100 yards away. Huge, biggest trees and flying some of them through the trees. And sitting out there for hours, we had one blue orb that just stayed there for everybody walked by the door and we looked through the wind and see it going through the trees and stuff.

Now, did these orbs make any sounds? Sometimes they do Sometimes they do Not all of them But if they're close enough You can hear them How would you describe the sound Like a ringing

Like a buzzing kind of Energetic Electrical Zizzling If you heard You ever took a Ticking a light switch And when you go to turn it

On an old switch Especially You hear a crackle Sometimes when you go from On to all that's a lot of what it sounds like a crackling sizzling sound any there is there any other is there a smell no smell no smell and what about the colors the what is the color spectrum of them what is the range of colors that you see nearly all of them all of them can change colors there I don't think

there's a you hear people sell there's a red one and it's mean and there's a yellow one and there's orange one and these green ones will kill you. I've heard so many people talk about that. But from my experience, they're all the same. They're just how they decide to appear in color, but they usually will start out white and shift from white to red. So everything in between yellow, orange, blood red, back to white, yellow, orange, and that spectrum. But occasionally, they're blue. They'll go from red to white to blue, this bluish white light.

Not like an American flag thing, but they're shifting red. You'll see the red end with the blue. Several videos of blue ones. What is this photo right here we're looking at? That far, if you look at Christopher, that's Chris Jr., if you look at his left shoulder behind him where the woods are, that's where I had the encounter with the three-foot being.

Oh, really? Yep. And that's where they landed. The orbs landed in my yard. You can see this circle here is two years old. The grass is still not growing. Wow. It killed the grass.

It set for a little donut in the middle. And those streaks you see behind him are where two other orbs came from different directions and scooted along the ground, burning the grass. ass until they sat down and created their circles. So there were three of those circles in the yard. And Mufon tested that as well. Can you explain what Mufon is? Mufon is the mutual UFO network. And that's who you call if you have a siding and you want to report it. You call those guys or go on their website and you can put your siding in and that's what... So it's basically it's just people scattered around the country that are interested in the

topic and they just donate their time to research it and collect. It's a pretty big outfit. And they have, you know, they have board members, full-time people there, but it's basically a volunteer. The investigators are mostly volunteers there. But, yeah, they tested that soil. And the funny thing is the tree, back in that back corner, there's a big oak tree in the woods where I run up to it and stood there with this being from me.

and the tree just died. The limbs fell, big, huge tree. It's just crumbled down, just like the top of that burning tree. Remember that orb, where that orb landed there, is 12 feet from the tree. I'll show you the right here. This is the, well, here's a better photo.

So when it come over the tree, one of those, the one that had the full circle, the other two had tracks leading up to where they landed, right? but the other one Chris Junior was standing at actually we believe came over at the top of that tree and irradiated it

because you can see 40 feet of the tree is missing it's broke right off It looks like it's burnt off at the top Well it wasn't burnt It just broke and fell, it died Really? Tree died and then

caught fire So the first time you noticed this You just saw the tree In your yard burning? Yeah we have a video of it Yeah It was, uh... Oh, there's a video?

Yeah. Do we have that? Yeah, we can find it. Okay, yeah. But mom tried to put the fire out three times and it came back. There you got, top one. Here we go. It lit itself on fire three times at night.

At nine o'clock, uh, it called... It's just spontaneous. Oh, here we go. Combusted in our backyard. Oh, wow. Hit the full screen button on the bottom right. Yeah, right there. This is so weird.

There's Emily coming home. And thunder and lightning and none of it. No. I don't even think of rain today. There we go. You see the grass is wet, where the headlights. We all just standing out here to look and rain as fast as we could in the backyard. The tree just spontaneously going to bust it.

That's my brother, Ryan. Yeah, burning from the inside out. How is it burning from the inside out? I don't know, but here's the weird thing, Dan. We don't know. This is when I quit smoking. Remember in 2007, I had to smoke to blow out the window right? This is 2013.

And I was, I walked, I paused my television. Bon and I, her mother and I were sitting, watching TV. In our study, I said, I paused the TV. I said, I'm going to go smoke. And so she got up to go to the kitchen. I went out the back door, pool glass door, and I was standing on the patio, lit up a cigarette, and I could see, this tree is 75 yards from the house, back in the back of the property, in the middle of nowhere.

And I saw sparks come from the ground and go up. It looked like the little bottle rocket. She'd shoot off the little tiny ones. They had red sparkles. That's what it looked like. They came out and they went weird looking. So my wife is coming back down the hall, and she could see through the back door, see me on the patio.

She could see all the way to that tree. She opened the door and said, what's going on with that tree? I said, I don't know. I see it, too. And suddenly it just erupted like somebody just poured gas on it. Poof, it just erupted into flames. And it was dead. Now look, this is after the fire.

It came back. How long after the fire is this? That's the very next summer. The fire was in like October. This was the next like spring summer. Spring, yeah. It had been completely dead. That year before, 2012, April of 2012.

I'm going to talk about the lady here. It's in my book prominently about the lady. And Easter, Saturday night, Easter, the night before Easter of 2012, I was so distraught because of the way my kids were being traded. I'm a big guy, you know. I got to the point where I didn't care. You can laugh at me. You can call me crazy.

You can do what you want. I don't care. It just won't be my friend anymore. I don't need you in my life. That's kind of what I thought about everybody that I grew up with, cousins, just family and friends. So I had washed my hands with them, but now it's affecting my children.

Extremely bad. It made fun of and all. So I was desperate to prove to the world that I had actually experienced something that I want crazy. They labeled me that, the whole community. Or you'd play them with the devil, one of the two. And I knew different.

I knew I was praying to God, and these balls of fire came. I knew they took my crones away. I knew it wasn't the devil. If it was, what a big trick. Why does the devil answer prayer? If it does, I don't want to be praying, right? So I had given up. that night. And I walked outside and I said, look, I've been trying to film you. You're in my

house. You're around my family. Everybody here sees your presence, these orbs. It's intelligent, they're intelligent beings. These orbs are beings. They're individual beings. Sometimes more than one. And so I shouted to the heavens. I'm done. You won't let me film you. You won't let me share you where my mom and dad lives next door, the minute they come out, it never shows. When they walk back in the door, boom, it's right back in our family's face. So it was like, it was so real to us as a group of six people, but it wasn't, I wasn't able to share it. This episode of the podcast is brought to you by Seed. Have you ever been in a situation where you had a gut feeling and it paid off?

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Not before the first five years. It was... But I did with other people. Some scientists got to see... It was very selective. Yeah, very selective. But it was almost impossible to introduce anybody to it.

And so I went outside that night and I shouted to the sky, I'm done with you. You have ruined my life. Thank you for healing me. I'm not sick anymore, but my life is in worse shape now than it ever has been. I'm a big guy, but my kids, I can't take them coming home crying. And three boys, 15, 16, 18, 17 years old, trying to date girls.

And now they're withdrawn because of all this. And so I'm talking to the heavens, to the sky, just like this. I'm done with you. I'll never speak of you again. Don't come around me. Don't come in my house. I'm done with you. And that's what I did.

And I walked in and I went to bed. My kids were there because of Easter. They always had friends come over. So the house was full of children. And they were in the front part of the house playing video games. And I'm in the back alone. My wife's sleeping with her because the boys had all these boys over. And mom's standing guard, right?

So she's, I'm totally by myself. So I'm asleep. Three o'clock in the morning. Three o'clock on the dot. I heard this voice say a rise and a manly voice. I mean, it sounded like thunder. It was so loud. And it woke me up from a dead sleep to I jumped up out of bed

to a sitting position and I looked around the room, panicked. I said, I heard that. Who's in here? If it had been my wife, it wouldn't have startled me. because it was a deep thunderous, manly voice that scared me to death. And I looked straight at my clock, had an old desktop clock back then.

Everybody had alarm clock. Right. I used one. So now we use a cell phone. I looked and it said 3 a.m. And I could see movement in my room. And it looked like these shadowy figures that we've been used to seeing.

They were at the bed, foot of my bed, these shadowy figures. And what they did, I don't know. they put me in some sort of trance-like thing to where I stood, I got out of bed. I was in just my underwear. I put on full jeans, pants, shirt, shoes, and I walked right out of the back door following them. And we went back out to the dog kennel to where everything had happened before, right? Just right up to the dog kennel.

And just before we got to the kennel, one of these beings, stopped and turned and handed me this object with two hands just like this, handed it to me. And I reached out and I took it. It said, this is yours, you must keep. So when I grabbed it, it felt like a hedgehog. It was prickly. It wasn't hurting, but it was prickly.

And it felt like it was a living, like a dog, but it had no head or no legs. I could see it, but it scared me really bad the way it hit my hands. So I dropped it on the ground. This voice said, no, you must keep that. This is yours, you must keep. So I reached down to pick it up. And when I did, when I stood up, they were gone.

There was no more beings in front of me. And I thought, what am I going to do with this thing? And I'm juggling it, and I have thinking quick. And so I opened a dog kennel, and I set it in the kennel and closed the door, thinking you'll be safe there. I don't know what it is. So this has all happened so quick. And the minute I closed that door, I stood up and this blast of wind, it was so strong, this wind.

It was a mighty wind, but it was localized. It wasn't the trees around me. It wasn't the forest. It was a blast of air in a circle in front of me that the tree, this oak tree in front of me, just disappeared into a black hole. and out of that hole came this wind which pushed me backwards really quick it was like so fast it caught me off balance and i fell all the way to my back flattened the leaves and as i'm falling i could see what looked like a a 1500 pound bull a cow come out of that hole ran right over top of me and i could see through it I could see the stars right up through it,

but I could see this bull. And so I land on my back, and I roll to my stomach, and I'm trying to get up, right, I'm going to run. It happens within seconds. I hit my back, I rolled to my stomach, and I'm facing the other way. So I'm trying to get to my knees and to my feet to run. I know where this thing went.

And immediately, the cow wasn't there. It was a woman. beautiful beyond measure. She was glowing, this bluish-white color. And she had this white dress on that sparkled when it was flowing. The dress just moved. And it looked like an old Roman dress. It went all the way to her feet and sleeves out to her hands here and a collar.

There was a painting of her right there. That was done. You painted this? No, the man standing to me as a famous artist from New York, Doug awed. And Doug painted that, just out of what I described to him. You can see the bull to the right there. And there's actually a triangle on her chest. He put it on there.

And pretty crazy, that painting's big. But her face is different, but that's similar to what was in front of me. So three foot floating in front of you. Yeah, three foot off the ground, but six foot away from. Six foot away. And the size of her, was it like the normal size of a human? She was smaller. Smaller.

See through? Could you not see that? No, she was solid as you are, yeah. But her mouth wasn't moving, but I could hear her plaintiff's day talking to me. But she was hovering, barefooted, just like that, three feet off the ground. And she looks at me. I'm just in this biggest shock. Words can't describe how the power I felt from this wind and this bull run me over and the fear that set in flight I had to run.

You know, I had this instant fear hit me. But now I'm looking at this woman so that whole fear thing turned into, oh, my God. What is this? Is this an angel? What am I looking at? she leans over and she looks at me and she says this is your burden she said first she said you know why i'm here and i knew why she was there because i had struggled internally for five years these orbs come and it talks telepathically i hear them and we proved this on the history channel

live with andy right they knew that my brain was communicating with the orbs even though i wasn't moving. We did this on camera. And neuroscientists measuring my brain waves, they could tell. So I'd had, for all these years, this overwhelming desire to tell the world. And the more I told it, the worse it got, the worst ridicule. And it spilled over to my children. So that's why I was ready to quit. But she said, this is your burden. You've got to bear.

And she said several things. And this is, I've been telling this for a long time about the times we're in now. We're in some pretty weird times, right? But she told me about that. And I put it out there in 2012. This happened Easter of 2012. She said, there's going to be trouble coming. And we're going to wake to people up.

And we're going to let you do it. We want to help you. We want to help you introduce us to the world. That's what she said. And she told me about an alignment. She said there's going to be, she said when the red, she said when the star of regulus, when the star of regulus arises on the horizon in the gaze of the sphinx, at that time there will be a shift in the knowledge of humanity. That's what she said. I didn't know what it meant. I had no clue if this star would align on... Star of a regulus? Regulus, a star called regulus.

When it aligns on the gaze of the sphinx before daylight, and that star comes up and it's right up just above the horizon, like the orbs last night, right on the ground. In view of the sphinx, there'll be a shift in the knowledge. There'll be a new knowledge for humanity. So I told that. Also saw visions of trouble that would happen beforehand, which is we've been having weird troubles, right?

So I'm not a prophet and I don't want to claim to be, but I did say this in 2012, and I've said it for the last, what, 11 years, and it's all happening. So the amazing thing is, Danny, is I went from totally quitting. and announcing it to the heavens, I'm never going to do this again to a new renewed energy of now what am I going to do?

If I tell this about the lady, they're going to come lock me up. They're going to think I'm crazy for sure. So I didn't say anything for a while. And two weeks later, a week later, I had vowed not to ever speak about it again. One week later, I get a call from Mufon saying, we want you to talk in Asheville, North Carolina,

which is six hours away. And I readily accepted, yeah, I want to talk. So I was a different attitude towards it. And that's where I met Diana Pesilka, two weeks after the lady came. And I started talking about the lady in that conference, and the audience began to heckle me. They made fun.

They didn't want to hear about the lady. They wanted to hear about the river event. So it was a very traumatic thing. And that bonded Diane and I for all these years to where, that's how we came to know one another. But the crazy thing is, is immediately when she left, that's when I began to document everything. I could get pictures.

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Watch the Stanley Cup playoffs on T&T, TBS, True TV, and HBO Max. I don't know, but I know this. It got the attention of Diana and the Vatican and CIA, NASA, and everybody, DOD, even the Ministry of Defense in Britain, Australia, all these people, they wanted to know about the lady immediately, let me tell you. In fact, I put it in writing to two generals at the Pentagon what she told me. I was asked to do that. I have, I mean, I have a whole bunch of questions in my head right now,

but I want to try to figure out how to pick this apart a little bit. um first of all steve do you remember when we were talking to randall the other day we were going through the different ages in the great year yeah um what what age are we in now as far as like the constellations that's the first thing i thought about is like the age of the bull and the lion we're an aquarius we're an aquarius right now like that song age of aquarius right right oh yeah we were singing age of aquarius and what's the next one Is there a way you can pull up like a diagram, that circular diagram he was showing us? Well, let me tell you what she told me.

She said that there was a shift in the powers of the heavens and that she had been away. The feminine energy was about to come back and there won't stop in it and that there would be a shift. And that that shift would be into Aquarius and that the divine feminine would come back as the energy that would create a thousand years of peace. That's what you told me. It would be trouble first,

but in time that peace would come to this world. All right, so it goes, Ares, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius. Okay. Aquarius, followed by Pisces. Okay, so we get a long way to go before we're in Taurus again. Interesting. But you know, the lady in Egypt is depicted, Hathor, with bullhorns or a bull next to her.

Many countries, the lady is always depicted with a bull, or either have bull horns with a solar disc or beside the bull. So it goes hand in hand with her throughout many countries. What did Diana say about the lady? Did she have any speculation about who she was? Yeah, they quickly referred me to the Fatima lady and the lady of Guadalupe, the lady of Lord's France and Fatima. And there's several others. There's one in Egypt that, I don't know the name. Can you pull up the lady of Guadalupe?

Yep. Now, the Sphinx, there's been people that have speculated the Sphinx was originally a lion. Yeah. What's weird is Regulus is in the Leo constellation. Regulus is in the Leo constellation. So when the Leo constellation comes up and aligns with that brightest star called Regulus. Is there images? I think it's Leo.

I'm pretty sure. It's Leo. Okay. This is the lady of Guadalupe. Yeah. So that, yeah, that was the first time you saw the lady. And when did she? Did she give you a specific time when things were going to change with humanity?

She's, you know, I've seen her more than one time. And, yes, I didn't hear from her except at Easter of 2013. She came back. Okay, yeah, regulus. It is a constant star. It's the star of Leo, the Lion Heart. Yep. And she told me when that star aligns on the horizon before daylight,

in the gaze of the sphinx, there would be a shift in the knowledge of humanity, a new knowledge, and that's what she told me. But there would be trouble along the way first, and they gave me the images of war. I even wrote that I saw Israel, Iran, and Syria, and we're looking at it right now. I put that in writing for you.

I'm not talking today. I did it. I've said this for a long time. And it's coming. It's happening. Let's hope it don't, but it's looking that way. At what point did you start getting visited by people in government and people in NASA or CIA? 2007, 2008. So right after? Yeah. Well, I didn't report the incident until October. It happened in January. of 2007. I come home telling this, and my wife was so afraid. The kids were scared. They didn't know what was happening. The church, being in a Pentecostal Holiness Church,

I was a deacon in the Pentecostal Church. So you can imagine Pentecostal Church is way different. That's Dr. Poverimeyer. How are Maher? So they immediately related to demons. And so my wife is trying to keep the family under control and hush me up about it. So I didn't talk about it for 10 months other than my kids. Orbs would be in the yard at night, 2 in the morning.

I'd wake them up and bring them outside and say, look, your daddy's not crazy. There they are, right? So my wife began to experience it, I think, in the – well, what time was it in those seven when she – She got shoved in the kitchen. It must have been in the fall. It was a few months later. She got shoved in the kitchen? Yeah.

Yeah, twice. Dad had been praying that mom would have an experience so she would believe him and she was doing the dishes and no one was awake or around and something shoved her into the sink and it scared her so bad. She said, don't ever pray for me again. shoved twice

I don't blame her so I didn't speak about it for the first 10 months and it was October that I had cable finally we didn't even have cable I couldn't afford it

had no TV other than local you know you get a few channels with a rabbit ear and so we got cable and I started researching the UFOs how do I tell somebody

who do I tell somebody who do I talk to. I've got to get this out of my head or I'm going to go crazy because my head's hurt really bad. Every time I tried to think about the subject, I would go into almost pass, I did pass out very often. It would hurt so bad I would pass out in front of everybody. It was it, my brain had a lock on it. And so it was October. I saw a Mufon ad on the History Channel about Stanton Friedman, this nuclear physicist was talking. And the first time I'd seen a show like that, I thought he's pretty cool.

If this guy would tell it, I'm going to tell it. So I googled them and found their application to submit a report, and I wrote it out. Two weeks went by. I attempted to push that button. And I knew if I pushed that button, I'm going to lose my wife. That's what I thought. I was under that much stress.

So for two weeks, I agonized. Finally, I hit sin, and I felt this relief, but I didn't expect to hear anything back, right? So within a week, I get this call within days, a couple of days. I get a call from the move from out of California saying, we want to come see you right away. And I'm like, oh, no, you can't do that. I just wanted to say it, right?

So I told them no. And they kept calling and calling and calling. and come January of 08, or right around the 1st of January, they wrote me again, and I finally said, I've got to tell this. I can't hold it no longer. So I said, yeah, you can come.

And it was February of 08 when the first person showed. And that's when I told my wife was sitting there on the couch while the investigator was there and she looked over at him and she and I hadn't talking about this period. I mean the kids she was always fussing at me. Don't get him out of bed, you know, they've got to go to school.

And that's when she asked Steve, the investigator, if you ever seen any shadowy beings? I've been seeing them and I got shoved in the kitchen and I said, my prayer is working. I've been praying you would experience this.

And she looked at me and pointed her finger and said, don't you ever pray for me again like that. We all thought it was funny, but. That was the first time you ever heard her talk about shadowy figures? Yep. She wouldn't talk around me, she would around them, but she wouldn't me. And she was trying to hide it, you know. But it just became within two weeks, within two weeks of Mufon coming to my house in February.

they had already taught me into doing a documentary with the Discovery Channel. This will vindicate you. The whole neighborhood of know you're not lying about it. So they talked me into it, and that was a bad mistake. Bad, because it turned the opposite way. I don't think they ever believed it would happen again.

I didn't think that. Because it don't normally happen. Somebody sees something that's it. But it didn't stop. It came back. Did you ever see any of those three-foot childlike beings again? Yeah. Yeah, I sure did.

In fact, there's a picture of them. I'm trying to find it. I can't seem to find the photo. And you mentioned the first time during the river experience when that first being explained to you, he wasn't there to harm you, he was only there to help you. Right. Was there any other communication, any other times that you saw them or experienced them?

Yep. Two nights later. This was on a Monday night when we had the experience on the river, Chris Jr. and the group, Wednesday night. My wife wasn't coming home to Friday, right? So we're staying the rest of the week there, just Juneer and I. Wednesday night, I'm struggling with Chris Jr. because he's in shock and he's had a really scary experience, right? and he was in a bad way. And so Wednesday night, it was about 9 o'clock, 8.30 or 9 at night.

Suddenly, we're at home. He and I watching television, just dad and son, and these same dogs start barking again. Same way, scary bark. So I rented the back door and could look out over the whole property out through the back, full glass back door. And there was a Christmas tree for, farm beside us, a big one. They had new trees where people would, they would send them out,

you know, cut all these trees down. But it was a section of that Christmas tree farm that was overgrown. You see the far back right corner on the wood lines, our property line. But on the other side of that, excuse me, it was this huge Christmas tree farm. I can see it looks like a wall of trees. Yeah. So the trees were so big that they, grew together so there was no walking through the place there were 40-foot tall spruce pine trees but underneath you could get down on your knees and there was no weeds at all it was just these short little pine needles and it was a section three feet of height underneath all them trees you could see for a

long ways and so I just crossed the fence the lights were flashing pulsating in the Christmas trees the whole tree was lit up treat the farm and I knew what it was because we'd seen it Monday night on the river, these white, big white orbs flashing. And I don't know what got into me, but it was a change in my life at that moment because I had been a hunter. I was raised with a rifle and a shotgun.

I shot my first deer at five years old. I was shot in the back at 10 years old, had a near-death experience nearly. You know, I was the luckiest guy. the world when I was 10 years old. It blew a hole in me. It's big. Big as old orange.

Shot in the back with a shotgun. Yes, from me to you. That's a whole other story. The scar is still the size of like a big orange or a grapefruit. Yeah, right straight in line with my heart right there. If I pull up my shirt, you can see lead right here through the skin. Yeah. That was the first near death.

And so I don't know why, but I was angry. I just seeing my son get upset again all over because now we got two nights later these lights in the backyard again and it's taken me two days to kind of calm him down and now he's freaked out bad. Oh my God, he's just really freaked. And so I just had this bit of rage coming in me

and I walked over to the gun cabinet and I grabbed a little holster, 44 Magnum rifle, little short saddle gun. I used to bear hunt with. I'm on record. Boone and Crockett record book for shooting 660-pound black bear. Wow.

North Carolina. It was a record at that time. Still in the property top five. But I took that gun and I said, you come with me, January. He said, no, I'm not going out of that door. He said, please don't leave me, Dad. I said, son, I'm going to end this tonight. That's what I told him.

I was just being a father, I guess. So I walked back to that far back right corner And I went through that little opening you see Walked another 50 yards to the along that side And there was a fence there old hog fence that The trees had fallen over in one spot So it wasn't used anymore but it was crunched down And I knew it there

I didn't want to cross that fence until I got back there So I could step over it So I stepped over that fence And the first 10 yards of that tree farm was nothing but pines so there was a buffer area of pines and then there's the wall of Christmas trees sure wall I mean there are no going through it you couldn't drive a car thore a bulldozer so I got on my knees and I started under and I could see this orb is about 50 yards away or not even that far 50 60 feet 70 feet maybe and it was

pulsating I could see the bottom three feet up it. That's all the view I had, three feet of view under there. So I crawled, dragging that gun under these trees until I got about 20 feet from that orb, 20, maybe 30 feet, and the electricity from it, the buzz, the static. My whole body felt like needles. The hair was standing up, and every bump, goose bump on me was just tingling. And the energy was so strong, I couldn't go any closer. I just turned around and I backed away, walked back out of that forest, crawled out. I got to the pine trees where the fence was crunched.

I stood up and I went to step over that fence. And the minute I went to step over that fence, there were two of these beings just appeared right in front of me, one on, I mean, they're standing like three feet from me. And just enough gap I could walk between them. and immediately I felt this shame come over me. Shame that I had this rifle. Why I brought this to fight something that there ain't no fighting, right?

So I took the gun and I tried to hide it behind me. And what they put in my head was what changed me. From that point on, I never hunted again. I don't harm bugs I have away with animals now nobody understands I have 50, 100 ducks

wild ducks who'll fly in and fly right up to me if you come out there they're gone but they'll fly right up and eat from me feed them wild mallards and if anybody knows about mallard ducks they're one of the most skittish creatures in the world

They fly it thousands of feet high at 80 miles an hour, and you need duck calls and blinds and decoys in the water to get one to land. Well, I have whole flocks of them fly right in and eat. I can feed them. But that wasn't like that before. But these beings told me that they changed me. It told me that the way they put it in my head, when I say told me they don't really talk.

They put images that you know. It's telepathic, I guess you could say. But it made me understand that the whole world is a living, is alive, everything, from the grass to every single animal, bird, tree, all had a consciousness. They even put images into me of the cells in the body. Like within the human body, you don't tell your body what to do. Something outside of us is telling our body how to function, the molecules. Each cell that divides from one cell to the other has a conscience.

So I'm just a part of that. I can't get the words out I want to say, but it just changed me in such a way that I began to cry about everything. I've cried for the last seven, eight, ten years, I guess, about everything when I see something get hurt. It just kills me. But it came from that experience with these beings

on how they told me how everything's a living consciousness and I don't have the right to take its life that we live in a mutual holistic way. Like your stomach, for example, you have bacteria in your stomach that digest chlorophyll plant material. The human can't do it, but this bacteria does. And it secretes the nutrients that you get from that plant.

And it survives because you're feeding it, the plant material, right? So it's a mutualistic way we live. And it's like a tree gives you wood for a house. It gives you shade for the sun, a nest for a bird, oxygen to breathe. And the list goes on. So everything has a part of life on this planet. And it's not up to us to destroy it and abuse it.

and I could talk about this for days. Wow. Yeah. It changed me. And this was in the very beginning. How long did it take before you, obviously the word had to get out, but like how long did it take before one of these guys,

like Hal Pauvin Meyer from NASA to show up? And was he the first one to show up? And why did he show up? Remember the, we got past this, I guess. But February, they came and did their report. By June, they were doing the documentary. By late July, August, I think it was. Howe shows up at our house knocking on the door.

And I was away in town. My youngest boy, Ryan, answers the door. There's a six-foot-four guy, giant man, standing at the door. Yeah, it was just Ryan and I, and he came, and he was like, is Chris Bledso here? We're like, no, who are you? No calls, no letters, just showed up unannounced. He drove all the way from Florida.

Cape Canaveral. Just on a wind and knocked on the door. It's two and a half hours from here. Yeah, it was 13 hours to our house. Right, right. And so he drove and Ryan calls me in. He flashed some badges, so we let him in. And we just, like, sat at the dinner table with him until dad came home.

What was he talking? What was he saying to you? What was he asking you? I don't remember everything. I was pretty young, but he was just, I mean, mom came. So we were talking, and she was just asking him questions, and Ryan was probably taking the lead. I don't remember.

Hmm. I was pretty shy. What he did was, well, to begin with, this is in the book. For the first five years, we had been involved with the UFO world on a limited scale. You know, everybody heard about us. They wanted us to come speak. They wanted to come visit. And I let a few people come.

And the men in black was a big thing back then. That was about the year it all came out. And so everybody was saying the government will kill you. Don't speak to this one. If you see somebody from the government that don't speak, I mean, they put the fear of the government and my whole family. Who?

Who is they? Well, the people associated with Mufon. The people associated with Mufon. Which is the UFO world, basically. So once that show came out, it brought everybody that's involved in the UFO world, knocking on my door, bringing groups of 10, 15, 20 people sometimes.

And they will come. I'm not saying it was Mufon. It's people associated with them, the UFO world. So they were all. about the men in black they're going to kill you they're going to kill you so when the government guy house shows up at the house automatically it was fear we were all afraid and i didn't want to talk to him i didn't want to have anything to do with him and for the first few months i would never give him

any information but yet he took to my children and he loved this one more than anything I mean. He came to my college graduation, birthday parties, recitals. Wow. He would drive all the way to be a part of our family. Yeah. He was always there. And you know what he told me?

He said, Chris, when he died, he had been at NASA, still holding his security clarency for 60 years. That's how long he's been there. He worked with Wernerbaum Brown before it was NASA. He took his astrophoburn. physics degree in astronomy and astrophysics from J.L. and Heinek at Ohio State University. He was like 15 when he graduated college. How's a genius. Yeah. Friken genius he was. And so why was he interested in this? Why was he interested in you?

Because they knew what I was saying. The word, the triangle. The triangle in the chest of the being, that was a big thing. A little child. with a triangle. The lady was 2012. That happened later, but that even brought more people. But it was, they knew the phenomenon was real. They've known it.

Don't listen to them on TV. I mean, they say, we don't know, we don't have anything. Yes, they do. They all know. Was this personal for him? Or was this business? This was part of a NASA sent him.

This wasn't just him like a side hobby. Well, no, I wouldn't say NASA sent him because he would always tell us not to say that. Okay. Because he wasn't supposed to be there. He was very selective with what he would say. Yeah. What kind of questions was he asking you? Everything you can imagine.

He would ask each member of the family the same questions separately to see if they would line up. And he did this for years and years. And one day decided he couldn't debunk it and just decided he loved us. and that's when we started, you know, gaining, like, a friendly relationship with him, and he, like, integrated into our family. Yeah. That was after years of him trying to debunk us, pretty much. So he was coming there to cross-examine you guys, to find holes in your story, to see if...

Basically. He was sent. He told us he was sent to debunk this story. That's what he told us. He worked with Jay Allen Hineck. He was the debunker, and we heard many stories how he would find a hole of this person, and son of a sheriff, fake something, he called him. That's what he did.

But he also would come and stay days while we weren't there. Didn't know he's in town. He would be at the newspaper. He'd be on every house on the street where this phenomenon first appeared to us in 2007. He investigated every house within a mile or two of that place. And that's who found the eight other witnesses that testified to him on his, when he was getting information that they had seen something that night. So that's what he did.

When he finally realized it was that he couldn't blow a hole in the story, that too many knew it was real. And he became a part of the family. And he began to see the phenomenon with me. We sat out in the back and watch it come over. But we loved him. How was a great guy for our friends, for my family, my children. We just loved a guy.

And he was coming to our house Thanksgiving of 2020, 2019. 2019, he was coming. 2019. Yeah. And we were expecting him on Friday for the Thanksgiving that we were. He fell in his bathroom and hit his head and went in a coma. Oh, no. Who is this guy?

That's Colonel John Alexander. The men who stare at goats, John Alexander? That one, yep. That's John. Can you zoom in on it a little bit? You see my hat there? I've got a whole box of those. John wears one, two.

CIA. So, okay. Explain this story. How did you meet John Alexander and what was your relationship with him? Well, John starts off the first chapter of the book. This guy's like a legendary military general, right? Yeah. He's a colonel. Colonel, yeah. What do they call him Dr. Death? That's his name.

He was an assassin in the military. Isn't his Ph.D. in like, death? Yeah, near death studies from Harvard, I think. Is he still alive? Yeah. Yeah, I talked to him this week. Wow. We stay in contact.

I mean, we love John. John was at my house not long ago. In fact, we're going to spend that. Oh, wow. That's Joe McMonagel, CIA spy number one, remote viewer number one. Double O-1. Double O-1, that's him. Joe McMonagel.

He's a legend. That's at the Monroe Institute, by the way. Yeah. which we love to be. How were you introduced to him, and what was his interest in you? John, it was 2015, I think, this lady, by the name of Pam Nance.

She's a research scientist for the government, and her home base is Wake Forest University. So Pam calls me. I was introduced to her by somebody and then I've called her back long story short she says Chris I'm researching the paranormal me and my assistant Ashley

she said we're researching the paranormal and I just got to tell you she said I've been on pilot mountain in North Carolina she lived from Winston-Salem works at Wake Forest right there in Winston-Salem right so she said I was on Pilot Mountain or Mount Pilot, like the Andergriffman show, Mount Pop, right?

She has a cabin near there, her home place from way back. And she said that she and Ashley would hike up on Pilot Mountain and sit under the stars and turn on this voice box. They call it a spirit box. I've never heard of such. But it's a little device about like the size of a cell phone that has this awful noise that comes out of it. It sounds like static.

Static, yeah, white noise. But it's tick and tick, tick, tick, tick like so. And what it's doing is scanning millions of frequencies. And these investigators believe that, and I know now, that disembodied spirits or voices can come through that thing. So she said she was on Pilot Mountain, and she would ask it questions, and it kept saying, Chris, UFO, Chris, UFO. and it said it over and over, over several days.

She would hear the same thing, Chris, UFO. He even said Hope Mills, which is where we live. So she gets on the phone with Mufon and finds out who is Chris in the UFO. Well, they gave her my number right away. So she comes to the house, and we're out at the burning tree. First, we did about an hour and a half interview in my study. And she had all her equipment running. And then we went, not to get ahead of myself,

but why they did the hour and a half study inside, they got like 60 or 70 voice communications, audible that was recorded on a recorder, just coming out of thin air. So we go out to the tree and we do this investigation, and I'm just holding this box in one hand, spirit box with a cord hooked to a digital recorder. So this is recording what this is saying.

And you can hear this thing. So she talks me into standing at the burning tree. While my wife, her assistant, Pam and Ashley, my wife and Stephanie, my niece, there were four ladies standing, you know, 10 feet from me looking at me. I'm leaning against that burning tree. And I'm holding this thing. And we start asking questions. Crazy thing.

This thing started talking, and it would answer my question. It would say my name, and four or five voices would come through it. They recorded 350 audio clips, and she said, I've never seen anything like it. She said, I went to the Charleston jail to do a ghost hunt. She could take six of these recorders and let them run for hours, each one, and they might get one voice out of, you know, 40 hours of recording, where we got over 350 recorded clips. But one thing it said, it said, Chris, the Pope is in danger.

Help him. You must help the Pope. It was saying this. We got it on recording. And she even made a PowerPoint with this, with all these clips. You can listen to them. Are they on line? No.

Okay. I've got them. Okay. But with all this happening, I knew that the Pope was going to Philadelphia. He was already had been into Washington and was making his trip to New York City and he was going to go to Philadelphia. Was this Pope Francis? I think it was Francis, right? When they were going, he was going to make a speech at the Congress owed of the original Congress Hall.

in Philadelphia. So I call a friend that called me last night. The guy you asked about who it was they called. I said, I called this guy. I said, hey, Larry, you won't believe this. I said,

this thing, this lady has, and I'm talking to him right after all this investigation, I said, this thing keeps saying that the Pope's in trouble. It's coming to Philadelphia. He said, you must help him. It was saying this. You can hear it. You must help him. So immediately, my friend says, well, maybe you should come to Philadelphia and let's see what we can do about it. So a couple three days later, I'm in Philadelphia, and when I walk in his house,

there stands John Alexander, first time I ever met him. And that's when we started remote viewing. the whole first chapter of this book and they actually arrested a guy for trying to blow him up I even told him he was going to use a bomb I saw where the boat ramp

beside Ben Franklin Bridge I drew it all out and they verified it and so they got secret service involved and then John calls Joe McMonagall and Joe says the same exact thing that I say and so from that point they shut down Philadelphia

Yeah, it closed every access into it and made people walk from the Jersey side across the Ben Franklin Bridge. You had to walk in. You couldn't drive. And they arrested a guy for that. So that's how I met John. And it was a real thing that what happened there. And that got the attention of a lot of people.

Did you ever speak with the Pope? I never had personally. I had words. I had messages relayed to me from the Vatican. through Diana and my friend from NASA, Tim Taylor. And he sent me pictures of orbs of St. Francis with these orbs appearing. And these hands were zapped. And at that time, I couldn't use my hands.

I could barely button my pants. I didn't get my kids to button my pants. And couldn't tie my shoes. Couldn't hardly pull my pants up. My hands were just inflamed. This is the arthritis that kicked down. rheumatoid, which is an autoimmune disease. So, yeah, the other NASA individual you met after how, how long, where on the timeline,

did you meet him? I met him in 20, it was either late 2012 or early 2013. And what happened there, I was at a gathering in an old log cabin in upstate Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania on the Delaware River. We're on a lake. We crossed the river and did this beautiful historic cabin. They had Thomas Edison's bedroom suit there, right? So big money.

And Taylor had heard I was there, and he was out in L.A., California. And so he heard I was at that meeting, and he wanted to meet me. And he called and said, I'm coming from L.A., I'm hedging. to Huntsville, but I'm going to swing by Pennsylvania first to meet you. I want to talk. And so he showed up that afternoon. I'd been there one day. We got there Friday, Saturday evening.

He shows up, and we became very close friends from that point on. And after he left from there, he flew out the next morning back to Huntsville. So he come in one evening, met me, made arrangements to come to my house. and to meet my family. And a week or so later, he was in Fayetteville at my house. And the rest is history from there. So Tim, he was, what was his background? Where did he work?

What was his, what was he studying and what was his interest in you? Tim is an amazing guy. He's a genius. And he's a very kindhearted. person. He is an engineer for NASA. He's probably been at NASA now 40-some years, over 40 years. And he runs all the launches. He's the man. He's an NRO guy, National Reconnaissance Office. And sorry to interrupt, but let's just clarify for people what that means National Reconnaissance Office. What do they do? National Reconnaissance was a very secretive organization.

until a few years ago when they were discovered and it went public. But he was a part of the Air Force, a part of NASA and the CIA, all three. So he holds the credentials for all three. And what they do, these guys, they are the top ranks. They have the highest security clerances. They're so high they can't even travel. He can't go into hospital and have surgery unless somebody's escorting him because he might talk.

So they're the eyes on the sky. And RO guys see it all. They have, if there's anything flying in our space, there's a select few of those guys that get to see it. I mean, it's compartmentalized down to just a handful. So they own all the satellites, all the spy planes. They run the launches because every time they launch something, something from up there, come check it out.

swim right up to it or fly up to it and make sure it's not something that shouldn't be. And I'll stop with that. So let's just say somebody's... Okay, well, that's something we're going to have to talk about a little bit later. Swim right up to it. Okay. Yeah. All right, anyways, we defined NRO.

So he was an aerospace engineer working for NASA for 40 years. Yeah. And... 40 years now, probably. He was there 30 years when I made. met him. And what did he say to you? What kind of things was he asking you when you guys first met? He was the kindest person, understanding, somebody I liked. He never doubted me. One of the worst things to do with this subject and everybody feels that you're, you know, a new person on the block

is so afraid to tell anybody because of the way you're going to be perceived. You're crazy, right? Right. He was never like that. He was, and what really was the difference, and I'm sitting here with a lead scientist from NASA, one of the top guys from NASA, he runs the launches. He runs the launches.

He runs them all, this guy. He's in charge. He's the dragon. He has a dragon tattoo on his arm. His console is called Dragon Console. I had the number to his. Dragon Console. Yeah.

His console is named the dragon, which is his space in mission control where he stands and runs the launch, he's the dragon. Oh, wow. And so to have that kind of person questioning me about what they look like, not, are you sure you saw this, not I don't believe you, it was none of that, it was what did they look like, describe them to me. were they this way were they that way did they walk this way they knew they knew all this stuff and so for right away i found somebody that um that i appreciated that could help me understand and he he felt so sorry for chris junior that his mission was to meet him he wanted to meet junior he came and he spent a lot of time with him changed his life because junior had the worst problem being 17 years old with people telling him he's a liar

you know that's the worst thing you can do grandmas and grandpas even said and i don't believe you you know were you on drugs or something and it wasn't the case and so this guy comes and he knew it was real and he went right straight to my house and he met everybody briefed us with the official briefing on a laptop with our name, our eyes only, the Bledsoe family. He tested each one of us with metamaterial and to see if we'd have a reaction to it. And he counseled Junior for a long time and changed his life

because now he had some pride. He had somebody to believe him. And if NASA people would do that, then that's a really big deal. deal. That's how that. He briefed you. Specifically, what do you mean by that?

You could tell him. Well, you can see in this photo, it was the day of my homecoming game. I was running for homecoming. And so we were all called into my brother's room one by one to watch this briefing video. He had this PowerPoint that said, for the blood so eyes only. and it had different photos and things that he would explain to us that I probably am not going to say or share. And then he would hand us all a piece of metal and we would, you know, hold another piece and see if there was any sort of reaction. And he would test this all privately and separately so we wouldn't know what was happening.

So he could get more of like a, I don't know, like a real reaction so we didn't like pretend or something. and we all felt something, but when dad held the material, even though we all felt like electricity, he was like seizing from it because his experiences had been so intense. The photos he was showing you or the stuff that he was showing you, was it like trying to cross-reference things that you guys had seen with things that he had documented or? Yeah, some of it was Area 51, which I can't say nothing about.

But he was just things. and then ask questions, why you think that's like that? Why do you think that door is nine foot tall? And I won't say them more there, but let's just say, because it was official briefing, I probably shouldn't go very deep. And why do you think it's so classified? It's always been the most classified subject,

higher than the atomic bomb, and it's been that way forever. Do you think it's a good thing that's so secret? Well, I think it's the cat's out of the bag now and they can't hold on to the secret. They're going to try. Because they have no choice. There's nobody at NASA qualified to walk up

in front of the television and say, this is this and that, because it takes an act of Congress to change their whole mechanics before they can do that. So these organizations can't tell it, and they're not going to. Congress is up there wanting them to.

trying to demand them, but their protocol says no. So it takes a whole lot of politics to maneuver around to get the Air Force to ever open up about anything. It's its own entity, basically. And for technology and for state security, national security, that's why the government's not open about it. They don't want to talk about it because technology involved with this stuff is incredible. And they're not about to give it away to just anybody. So explain what happened again when he handed you this piece of material? Well, he handed me.

I was the last person in the room. So imagine my wife and four children and Jenny. I wasn't in the room when you held it. But go ahead. But most everybody was in there. They were sitting on a bed or on a, Ryan had a couch in his room. But when I walked in the room, everybody was watching me and quiet. Couldn't say a word.

And up on top of the dresser, you know, the dresser is tall, not the nightstand. Not the nightstand. But the dresser, he had the laptop set up there. So I'm looking up at it. And he goes through the whole briefing, watching. his PowerPoint and asking questions. And then he goes over to the chair and picks up a backpack, reaches in it, and he pulls out this little piece of metal.

It's about a half-inch square, size of a poster stamp. Thin, I mean thin. And he put it in my hand, and it just looked a square of gray metal. He said, what do you think of that? She looks like aluminum. I don't know. I didn't know what it was. So he reaches in his backpack and he pulls out another piece, and he puts it in this hand.

And it's like aluminum foil. It looked like aluminum foil. You could crinkle it up, but it wouldn't crinkle. It would stay wavy, but it wouldn't crease. So I messed with it, and it just sat there. But the minute he put it in that hand... As thin as aluminum foil? Yeah.

This one was thicker. It was a piece of metal. This was aluminum foil. And he described this as the insulation. He said, this is the insulation. Like I already knew what he was talking about, right? But when he put that in his hand, it made a connection through my body to this hand. And my arms began to thump like that.

And suddenly my eyes just started to black out, and he reached in my hand and took it out. And I got my vision good, and he said, he was this close to my face. He said, why are you? I said, do what? What just happened? He said, why you? I said, what do you mean, why I mean? He said, I would have known you were lying if you hadn't had a reaction.

He said, I'd never seen a reaction like this. He said, I've only ever seen two. Yours was by and far different than anybody's. Why you? I never understood what he meant by why you, but he said it three or four times. And from that point on, we become friends and done some traveling together. And I ended up with him. Where is this?

It's at Cape Canaveral. That building right there, that door, is very famous at NASA. That is the astronaut crew quarter. And that building was built in, I think, in the 50s. So when they, or 60s, when they put the first rocket in space, when an astronaut rides that rocket, they have to be in quarantine. for like six weeks, I think, so they don't get a cold and the doctors.

So they have a crew quarters that have bedrooms in there and a conference room and bathrooms and a doctor's office. And when they go in there, they live for weeks with their wife and children and the same house, den mother, that arranges food. And so there's a lot more pictures of inside that place. But he told me that,

In fact, when we walked in the front door of it, the den mother come up and said, who are you? I said, I'm his friend. He said, how did he get in here? Who did you point to your whose friend? Tim. Oh. It was me and Tim walked in there, and she said, who are you?

I said, I'm his friend. She said, well, you know, there's only 300 people ever been in this building. And that's only one U.S. president, no Congress, nobody, just 300 since its existence. that's including all the astronauts and the family members. In other words, she was asking why I was going into a place with such security. And I couldn't answer it, but I enjoyed the tour. I got to sit where John Glenn sat or all of them. Got to hang out in the whole place and got to sit where they put their suits on,

and then they filmed me coming out the door. That door is where all the astronauts would walk out, holding their gear with the suits on, they would walk out that door and get in an airstream camper van, a gas-powered one, and they would be transported from that door to the rocket before they took off. So that's a really famous photo up there.

So they treated me like royal. And I'll give you a secret, he told me. he said your life will never be the same when you leave from this place it'll change you I said

what do you mean by that he said well every time these astronauts went to space something come back with them and it's here it's still here something comes back with them yeah

it's invisible but it becomes visible every now there. They see orbs all over the place there.

Sure do. Near the at the launch site they see orbs. What comes back with them? I don't know.

I know it heightened everything happening with me. Experience with the phenomenon

grew greater. Understanding of it grew. It's the spirit. There's a lot of misunderstanding about these orbs and aliens.

Maybe it's technology, maybe. But to me it's more like a spirit. They're like spirits, like ghosts, but they can come full physical. Did you ever clarify what he meant by YU? Nope. He never did. He's a secretive guy.

I mean, he's like a ghost, Tim is. that's why Diana wrote his book, wrote her book. She didn't put his name in there. Oh, yeah, he was Tyler D. Yeah. In American Cosmic. But, you know, that's, that was then. Now the subject is, he probably don't like me talking about him, but that's okay.

It's part of my life, and I'm sorry. You're a good friend of mine, Tim. He never, so he never clarified anything about, like, them trying to learn more about it and, like, them being interested in, like, Why were they interested or why did they make themselves so visible to you and not other people? Yeah, we went over that a lot, you know. And you said there was two other people that experienced the same thing you experienced with the metals. He didn't tell me who.

He just said, I've seen two other in my life. I'd seen two other reactions, but nothing like yours. I remember something from your book. I don't remember in what it was in reference to, but I remember there were, you mentioned a conversation that you had with him when you were at Cape Canaer, and he said something like they weren't interested in anyone else. Like we know about them, but they're not interested. They don't care about us.

Right. Okay. So when he first came, remember we were afraid of government people. We still had howl there and I was still petrified about this guy. So I asked him, remember we're afraid of the government. So I was being tight-lipped and I said, why are you here? You know, thank you for helping my choice. children, thank you for helping Junior.

But why are you here? Why do you need me? Why does the government need me? Because I'm still worried about the government, right? Everybody's talking that. They're going to kill you. People have died, and I heard all this. But that hadn't been my feeling.

Everybody I'd met had been really nice people. He said, because we see them. He said, we see them. But they don't, nothing to do with us. Zero. And we want to study them. We want to know more. And we would like to study you. And we would suggest you don't go to any UFO events. Don't go to any conferences. Don't get involved. Because people that go to those tend to take on each other's stories. You get somebody that sees a light fly by during the car and an orb goes over. suddenly they

involved with names they're from the Galactic Federation they were the Pleiadians they were the Octurians they did this they did that they know everything about when they only saw a light this happens in the UFO world

and a lot of those things people tend to know more than the experts do you know what I'm saying so he said we see them, but they have nothing to do with us, and we'd like to know why they want you. We know they like you. We know that, and we just want to investigate some. So that's how that happened. Do you have any

idea, the answer to that question? Why do they like you? Why do they want to communicate with you and not with anybody else? I have no idea. I've asked that to a hundred times, and how probably Meyer told me one day. And he was always very tight-lipped to how I was. He would ask a million questions and tell you one answer, right? It's the way he always was. And I'm like, how, why are they here? Why did they want me?

Why are they around me like this all the time? He said, because of your family. That's what he told me. He said, they're probably your family. What that means, I don't know. And I'll tell you something else. me serious as all get out was how mapped the moon he wrote the book on occultation grazing I don't know how you say that word occultation grazing in other words he wrote

many books on the moon okay so he mapped the moon he mapped the moon he mapped the landing spot for the Apollo mission he said you got to land here and he drew out the coordinates That's what Hal did. He studied the moon more than anybody in the world. He's the expert on the moon. So we were talking one night, watching the stars, and I'm like, Howe. I said, is there really something on the backside of the moon?

He looked at me, and he said, there are buildings up there, big ones, and we didn't build them. And they're ancient. Ancient. Ancient. So help me, that's what he told me. And I didn't ask you any more questions,

but he wouldn't ask you. answer. He told me that. He said, there are structures up there that we did not build, and they're very old. This is coming from the world's expert on the moon. Did you ask him if the moon landing was real? I never did. I never did, but he says it was. So I believed him. Wow. Wow. He had, his technology is still on the moon that he put up there. Something for lasers to shoot off of and there's stuff up there, scientific equipment, that he was responsible for putting up there. Didn't he say the buildings look like mushrooms?

Some of them. I thought that was really weird. Ancient buildings that look like mushrooms on the dark side of the moon. That's what he said. I said, Tim, what do you think about the moon? Is there something going on up there? Is there structures up there?

He said, do you think that it? it landed by chance in the perfect spot where it eclipses the sun and it doesn't ever change its face to the earth. It stays locked in a position. He said, none of that was by accident. He wouldn't elaborate anymore. He said, but there's something going on up there. I can't say, but it's not by accident. I knew the moon was a spaceship. Damn. Wow. Wow. Yeah. That's what he told me.

So what is it? How is it all? I don't know. We're at the beginning of studying this thing. And what is it we're dealing with? Who is it? How all I can tell you is how it reacts to me and demonstrate that part. So, okay.

Getting back to what he told you about music and keeping music. music in your head. Right. Why did he tell you to do that? Because along about 2015, I think, 2014 or 2015, somewhere in there. I get a call from a lady. I showed you a picture today of Chris Jr. walking in a field with him and a lady by the name of Chase Klutski.

Chase is very well known in the UFO world. Chase Kluxky? Clutsky. I have her photo here. I can. Jason, her husband, Pete, Pete worked with the U.S. Navy in the Intel, right? So just so happened, Pete's, Tim's at my house. And so the day that we were tested would meddle.

The bottom one, there they go. There they are. That guy on the right is Navy, U.S. Naval Sub-Commander, Naval Intelligence. and Tim is National Reconnaissance Office NASA and Yvonne and my wife

and of course Emily and this was the 10th grade right 11th grade he told them if they wanted to visit they had to come to my game so they all came and watched me so yeah

so after that event there when was Is this homecoming, October? Yeah. It would have been like September, October of 2013. So I think we fast forward to November of that year. Chase calls me and says, Chris, you ever heard of St. Paul's?

I said, yeah, before you tell me, let me tell you something. I said, Chase. I said last night, Saturday night, I was sitting on my back patio, had a fire, going, just me laying back, looking straight up at the sky, and two orange orbs appeared, red ones, just like you saw last night, those same color. They just appeared, boom, just appeared, sitting stationary above me up, way up, and they came on down. And when they got to the top of the trees, they stopped. Now there's these two orange balls.

Suddenly they fired off straight towards St. Paul's, just above the trees. She said, oh, my God, I can't believe that. I should have known. She said Saturday night, this was Monday night, she called me. She said Saturday night, I got a call yesterday about a ghost hunter group from Wilmington, North Carolina, Wilmington ghost hunters. Wilmington Paranormal, I think the name of the group was. They were in St. Paul's at an old plantation house investigating ghost. and they walked outside into the woods,

and there's this old ricketya house that the farm tenants used to live in. It's old. I mean, it was falling in. But they were in there, in the edge of the woods, and these two orange balls of light flew right over their head, right over the trees. And it freaked them out when they saw it.

And suddenly, one of them said that this tall being peeped around the tree, at them and they pulled out their guns. One of them was a police detective. One was a prison guard. But they started shooting at it. They were shooting at this. They didn't just had a glimpse of it.

So they were shooting in the woods, you know, at this thing. She first asked questions later. Right. And so I said, oh my Lord, she said, would you go with me over there? I'm coming next Saturday to investigate. I said, yeah, I'd be glad to go. with you. So Saturday comes, Friday. I'd already called Tim. I said, Tim, I've got something,

and I told them the whole story about seeing orders at my house, and then over St. Paul's, and this happened to these people. He said, pick me up Saturday morning from the airport. So I went to Fayetteville and picked him up Saturday morning, and we rode over, and that's the picture you saw of them walking across the field, Tim, Chase, and Chris Jr. So we walked across that field and went into these woods. And what I noticed immediately was that the whole place had been timbered, except where the house sat. It was a grove of trees.

But behind it on behind it had been timbered out. And they went in through the swamps and the Cypress pond and destroyed it. And it was just a mess in there. And I got the impression that it was because of the destruction of that environment is the reason they were there. Who knows why, but that's what I told, Jim. He said, you think they're still here. I said, yeah, I think they're still here.

They haven't gone anywhere. He said, what they decided to do was to recreate the ghost hunt that night. They wanted us to go with them and do a ghost hunt. So Tim's like, I'm going back to Alabama. So I took him three o'clock to the airport, and he flew back to Alabama. Come in just for the day. And that night, I went back over there at six in the evening to do a ghost hunt with them. And so that evening I show up, and I'm with the ghost hunting group.

There are eight of us. I'm the eighth person. So you got Chasing Pete and myself, and then five members from Wilmington. The ghost hunter crew came. So we were going to recreate the whole thing. So eight of us, they finished the house thing, and then we walked. across the field to the old farm tenant house. And here, if I can explain it to you,

because I wrote about this in the book. When you walk in, the cabin is old and dilapidated, just a one room, basically one room cabin. It is 10 feet into the forest, in a real thick forest. So you can't see it unless you get right up to it. But once you get into the forest, there's this old cabin. When you walk out the back door, couldn't even go in the front.

You had to go in and out the back door. The front was boarded up. But when you step off the steps of the back door of that cabin, you walk about six or eight feet is all. And then there's a ditch, a real big ditch. It's six foot deep. And it's dry. Trees growing up in the ditch. It's old.

But the ditch goes all. the way down the property, right behind the cabin, less than 10 feet from the back door. So they were telling us, after we were recreating everything, we went through the little house, and they had all their ghost hunting equipment inside, and they said, now we're going to go out the back and take you the same way we went before. And Tim and I discussed the possibility that these beings were still there. I told him I thought they were and why they came. And And he said, well, tonight, to get in a little more depth, he explained to me that these beings can hear your thoughts and they can stay hidden from you by knowing what you're thinking. So if you happen to see one by accident, they can rewind.

it, they can rewind your memory, basically, by a device that they have, that I've seen the patents on it. Patents. Yep. But if you were to sing this song, not let them know what you're thinking, might get a chance to see one. That's what he told me. I've held this, I'm telling you this first time publicly about, you.

these little details. So that night, we walk out the back door with the ghost hunting crew, and I'm in the back. I'm in the eighth guy in the rear. Chase is in front of me, so she's seven, I'm eight. But Pete, he navigates under the world with submarines, right? He's got a compass on his arm. And so Pete's got us in tow.

And we got to go out of the back of that cabin and walk across the hundred yards, his hall, of woods. That's really thick in that spot. The rest of the forest to the right and left has been timbered, but we've got to walk through that clump of trees to get to a power line

and these big high-tension power lines. You can see for a mile either direction, right? So it runs parallel with the cabin field. It's only 100 yards you walk through. It takes 15 minutes to walk that section from the back of the cabin to the power line. It's important.

I say that. Because when we started through the woods, everything was fine. We were all perfect. Talking, carrying on, excited, made our way to the power line. So when we get to it, we walk up and down the power line for an hour. We were testing all these equipment. They had these ghost hunters. Just recreating the whole thing.

So when it was time to go back to the cabin, we had to go straight east, 15 minutes. and we would end up at the cabin. We went right back to the spot we went, come out at, right? Where we exited onto the power line. We started back in right there. Peets in tow would his watch, navigate. So I'm behind them. I'm singing my song.

Singing, singing, singing. And I noticed everybody got out louder in your head in my head. I noticed everybody got nervous, kind of weirded out. and they're you know I saw what looked like they were drawing their guns again getting ready to and what I've learned about this

that they can put fear in you these beings can control what you think so they can make you afraid make you go a different direction if they don't want you here right they can put fear into you I'm just repeating what I was told we're starting in 15 minutes across, Pete's leading away.

I saw him get nervous, and that's when I started singing. Suddenly I saw these green orb look like eyes, people around the tree. I tapped, chase on the back, and pointed at it. She saw it immediately with me. Next thing I know, Pete is right at the ditch. So when we walk through that ditch, nobody else saw this, just chasing us all, right? she remembers it but when we crossed that ditch

we had 10 feet to walk I mean you could see it was from here to that wall it's the cabin right but when we got to the ditch and we walked in that ditch when we come out the other side of the ditch we step back out on the power line

and that freaked everyone out it freaked peed out he's like what just happened he's a submarine commander navigates under the ocean it blew him away what had just happened. I knew what had happened. So you basically stepped out exactly where you started?

Yep. Yep, we pulled it east heading for 15 minutes. We got to the ditch. We walked in the ditch and out onto the power line. And there's no ditch on the power line side. So what happened? They couldn't figure it out. But I saw the being.

And I knew right then we were missing time. What they did is they wiped our mind on the, trip across. So I didn't tell them that. Because once we got to the cabin again, we went back across, went in the dish and come back out the cabin. So we made two trips across that power line, from the power line to that building. So Monday comes along, Chase calls me, Chris, you'll never believe this.

I said, yeah, I will. Chase, we lost 15 minutes, didn't we? she said no we lost 12 minutes and they recorded it they had helmet cans on they had all these stopwatches and they know that we lost 12 minutes at time with that group of people that night and Tim was there

Tim was there that day oh the day that was the night after he left yeah and they'll tell the story the same group of people Chase tells it tells about missing time with me that's not the only only agree that's done that this happened with several okay so fast forward to when you were going

through the security doors at Cape Canaveral at NASA there was a black a black glass building that you go that you pass it was like a hut like a guard shack a guard shack right beside this fence you know you got mission control and a fence around it you got fences within fences But when you get to the main building where the launch is going on, right. They had razor wire and a bobwire fence, about 10 foot high all the way around that thing, with guards standing there with machine guns.

And to go through that gate, you've got to walk by this guard shack. And it's about 8 by 8 black. The middle's black and the wind is black. You can't see any of it at all. But it was like, it was like when you walk by that building, they can read your thoughts. You never told me who they or what they or how they. He just said, they can read your thoughts.

So just sing a song. And that's why I first heard about it. This was before the ghost hunting trip. So I already knew about it. He just told me to do it again when I was on the... This was before the ghost hunting trip. Yeah. What was in the building that could read your thoughts?

I've had that question ever since. I have no clue. This is the kind of way these guys will communicate. They give you a little bit, is it a lie? Are they throwing me off on a wrong course? But they didn't, you know, it seemed pretty real what he was telling me. So once you were, once you got into the building, the launch control center where Tim goes, what did he show you in there? their specific room.

Did he show you specifically where he is and what he does and what he works on when he's there? Yeah. So if you can imagine mission control is basically a square. It looks like a square that looks like one of those construction site trailers you would bring on a job, but bigger. It's square. And there's a hallway right down the middle and glass on either side.

You've got this hallway with glass, big, long hallway with glass. And if you look to the right, is NASA scientist controlling the launch. So you've got all these 50 people or however many is in there standing or sitting at each console, like you see on TV. Same thing. On the left side is an exact duplicate of the right, but the left side's all Air Force. So the Air Force is involved big time with NASA. That's part of the NRO thing, I think.

Right. So there are all these cadets. All these young soldiers were there, learning to control launches. And I got to meet the general there. She came out in the hallway and spoke to me. And I was even told how to address her before I got to meet her, which I did. And that was pretty cool. But there's a room that's a closed-off room.

only Tim goes into How big is the room? I didn't get to go into it, but I saw it where it was, and he explained to me that was his office, and in that office, once the launch goes off, he has to stand in his control.

When that rocket leaves and everything looks good, he goes into that room. And it's for his eyes only. And the other guys in the NRO that are involved, in other ways. In other words, when that rocket leaves the ground,

they have ground-based cameras that looks like giant binoculars that you sit in and they can swivel and film this rocket, right? But once it gets up so high, it gets gaseous and they can't see the detail.

And they want to know every angle of that thing. They want to see every bit they can see in case something goes wrong. They know how to fix it, right? and it's how they found that O-ring that leaked and caused the explosion with the shuttle. Remember when it blew up? Challenger. Yeah, they could see the fuel coming out where the O-ring was stretched.

But when that rocket gets to 50,000 feet, they have what's called a WB-57, which is a really big. It's like an old U-2's pipeline. huge wings, and it just hovers up there about 50,000 feet, a group of guys in RO, and they intercept the rocket. But when it's going up and starts going over, that WV-57 is right behind it, filming it, because the ground-based cameras don't have clear now this airplane has it. When it gets on up there about 100,000 feet,

you could see the picture of the 104 star, firefighter. That's it right there. That thing can fly right on up to about 100,000 feet following that rocket. That can't.

And they chase it, keeping a film on it, a camera on it the whole time. And the rocket's going so fast, it'll outrun it right, and then it loses sight, and then comes the satellite cameras, pick it up. And when Tim goes into that door,

his eyes are on every stage of that camera. as it's going up. And so he sees, if anything from somewhere else, gets nosy and goes up and takes a look or even shoots it down because it's happened before. They've gotten shot down. I've seen one.

You saw one get shot down? I saw the video. It's ever did. Is this one that we all know about? Some people do. You won't find it. It's been scrubbed. And what was it shot down by?

The video I saw was, you see I get a little nervous here, it was a rocket. This thing was going 15,000 miles an hour, and when it arcs over, and they don't go straight off. They go up a ways, and then they go over, and they fly out gradually climbing up as they go around the world. They don't leave it. What I saw was when this rock, rocket left over the Pacific coast. I think it was launched out of Vandenberg. When it went up out of, started over,

all of a sudden, this little flying saucer appears, flies right up to it, intercepts it, as it's going 15,000 miles an hour, flies around it, and a little white laser beam comes out and shoots it from every side. As it's going around it at 15,000 miles an hour, suddenly the whole rocket malfunctioned doesn't blow up just quits and tumbled out to the sea i saw that what was on this rocket that's what i asked him he said why do you think they did that i said you have

weapons on there and he wouldn't answer that he said well there might have been a mott warhead but it wasn't a lot on man yeah so i saw it with my own eye So that rocket, that one out of Vandenberg is known. It's known. There's people that have seen it before. I think I've heard vague, vague stories told about that before. It's real, I've seen it. Did you ever, have you ever heard or spoke to Gary about the research he's been doing on,

and the brain scans he's been doing with people that have experienced the phenomenon where he's noticed a certain part of the human brain. I think it's the Codate Potamine or the basal ganglia. That is, it's extremely dense with neurons. It's different. Yeah. Yeah. I'm surprised he spoke about that because that's been kind of secret for a long time.

Yeah. Well, you know, they study my brain. They're going to start studying hers this year. Emily's. Oh, really? You know how to talk about that? Well, I can't say no more, but we're just going to say, yeah. Yeah, so what do they do?

What's going on here in this photo? That I write about in the last chapter of the book. That's at the Monroe Institute. That whole deal was created basically around me, that whole week we were there. Yeah. They wanted to get me up there and see if we could film the phenomenal. It's never been done, right? Nobody's never walked out and had it come and they film it like that. So if they get a video, it's by accident. But we were going to do it intentionally. And so they invited Emily and I and some other people, friends of ours, that came. And the rest of the group was while they were dining or having fun, I'm in the lab. I'm in the lab. being wired up, right?

A lab rap. Yeah. And so when we go out at night, we had orbs appear, and they'd never seen anything like it. They filmed, they got sensors sitting on tops of the mountains, random generators and all, and they were going off,

and the orbs were up here. And there is an orb that we filmed. A friend of ours named Rob Freeman, he came from Canada. He brought a $250,000-dollar camera that he bought, just to film the phenomenon.

So it's all this is a big apparatus of cameras and spectrum and all kind of stuff I couldn't even tell you. It was a big setup. So he walks up to me and he says, Chris, he said, you know what? You've changed my life. He said, I want to apologize. So I stood up and I said, thank you, Rob. Don't worry. I forgive you.

I reached out and I hugged him and as soon as I hugged him flash somebody said lock flash so Rob runs back to his camera locks it in on this object turns it on

and for 45 minutes that object never moved it set there flash flash the star field moved across the sky but the object never wiggled so you can find that called the Monroe Flasher on YouTube

and that was from that night when Rob and I hug and we made a great bond I mean I'm gonna be with Rob again this November Wow The Monroe flasher on YouTube Can you got

You got Safari maybe we should look at it Oh wow this is like some sort of like analysis video somebody made talking about it Okay now these are So this is that $250,000 camera That's got brought out here Yep

Let's see if it flashes There it is You see it in one spot You can enlarge the screen, you can see it better. It varied in intensity to how bright it flashed. Wow. It's so tiny. Well, it was way up there.

Right. But it got bigger and brighter at times, a lot brighter. Not the same distance as the one we saw last night. No, this is further up. Further. It was way up there. But the thing is, there was 45 minutes of it, and there's parts of that, it's a whole lot brighter and bigger.

but Mufon, Canada, which is where he's from, certified it true and all on. But that was a story there that what we were doing was filming with scientists, government scientists, a whole lot of them, using sensors and all to record this for the first time. Now, were they using some of the same technology that Andy was using during the filming of that show, where they were kind of tracking it against the FAA and against satellites to make sure it was. wasn't planes or satellites? I didn't see one of those. They may have had it because they had sensors on the mountains and so on. Right.

But, yeah. Can you play that video from last night? It's in there. There's like, I think there's three videos, but there's two of them. Is it in here? Yeah, it's in there. Oh, no, never mind. Stephen has them.

Okay. I do. Steven's got them. Look at them queued up. So, yeah. So we sat out there for maybe, 30 minutes before before we saw anything and then all of a sudden

these things started appearing on the horizon and there was a couple things that happened over our head looked like shooting stars. Yeah. That's the orbs a lot of times because they'll go straight up. Let's see if we got audio going on here. What's cool is this

this there's this surf you can see Yeah. Oh it's the contrast is like crazy. It's like darkened on the screen. Yeah. You can see the horizon. Okay, there you go. So the planes were far above this.

This was very, very low on the horizon, and you can see the planes that are, there were airplanes above it. Find the one that's the longest one, the 52nd one. That one has it a two in it. There are two orbs in that one. Right, right.

And the first one's right on the water. In fact, I don't doubt that it didn't come from the water. As you know what's weird, you just had asked me about that right before. Right. About the water. What do I think about the water? And then we get one right on top of the water.

So that thing was right above the horizon and it was getting really bright and then getting going invisible, going dim. Yep. And airplanes don't do that. Nope. No. And we could, we know that because there was literally airplanes coming in for landing that would turn on their bright headlights for their landing appraisal.

Right. their landing approach or whatever it's called. In that 50-second video, you can actually see planes all around it from up above it. There was one there taught right. You see that little flash. Yep, that's your airplane.

That one was flashing. Let me see if I can get the older one, the bigger one. Yeah. Because that doesn't make sense why it wouldn't. So what is the connection do you think? You talk a lot about in your book this sort of, which it got me,

wrapped up in this Ed Casey thing with the healing power. What is the connection with this ability to heal? How real is that? And was Tim involved in any of that with some of the stuff that he was doing with the medical research and the medical patents? Well, yeah, in a way, how that came about was in 2013. Easter again, one year later, remember 2012 on Easter, I had the last. lady experience, right? She came and told me about the red star

or the star of regulus and granted me the ability to record this stuff. She did it. It came straight from her in 2012. Well, 2013, she comes back. This time, she takes

me, these beings take me. Somehow, I'm transported from my home up through the top of my house. I saw the rafters. I went and was pulled up into a ball of light. Next thing I know, we're touching down from this orb and walk out of it into this desert environment

looked like Utah. I have been obsessed for five years with Utah. More than that. Now my kids know this. Okay, so here's the video. You got it pulled up, Steve? Yeah, it doesn't. doesn't play on the computer, but it does play in Dropbox.

So here we go. Okay, so you see, is that a plane on the top left? There's an airplane, two planes. Now that thing comes right out of the water. Yeah, right up out of the ocean. There's a planes around it. Now it's going to disappear, but if you'll look to the right of it here in a second, there's a second one right close to it that appears.

There it comes. Now it's going to appear. That thing goes down, disappears, and then that one. Yeah. What? It gets real bright. Those are your orbs. And see these planes right above it?

They can see that. That's why they're so elusive. I mean, there's three planes, four planes in the picture, and then you got this one or orb. And then I think it goes out again, right? Yep. Yeah. Just disappeared.

I don't know how you can explain that away with logic. You can't. You can't. And maybe tonight we go out sky watching again. Maybe I'm just hoping something. comes much closer, like real close. Well, we were right on Indian Rock's beach in front of a lot of really bright buildings and condos

and there was lots of airplanes. Yeah, we were on the main flight path. Right, right. But it's pretty amazing for that to show up with all of that around. Yeah, I knew it was a hamper, though, because all these planes around. Now, what do, like, the most hardcore skeptic

skeptics say about these things? Do they try, how do they try to explain these things? Well, you know, there are hardly no skeptics anymore. I don't really have that issue. Okay. The main thing I hear now is this demon. You're dealing with demons because they've already accepted the fact that there is something there. There's something happening. It was like satellites or at one point someone said swamp gas. Ball lightning. Yeah. But now it's like, oh, there maybe is something happening, but it's evil.

Yeah, it's got to be evil. It's got to be a demon. There are videos on YouTube. You can watch about ball lightning where people show these balls in their house, these light that explode. They show up and they float around and they explode away. But in your situations, there was no thunderstorms. There was no lightning.

No, and this is every day. I mean, I record this stuff every single day. I showed you my sonics out, and there are 2,700 videos in less than 24 months. That's a lot. And I could have taken twice that because half the time I don't even record. We see 10 times more than I ever record because a lot of times it's so fast you can't get it on camera. It'll come by you. It'll appear 10 feet away and zoom right by your face.

pool that quick. Happens with crowds of 20, 30, 70, 70 people. I've had it appear around and 20 feet away. And it happens at significant moments. So it's like, why would ball lightning respond to specific questions, thoughts, emotions? Right. And yeah. So this is a new day. The people now are knowing there's something there. And so the skeptics have mainly gone by by. Most of them. Wow. And the ones that are skeptical more would be the scientist, because they just, their paradigm, don't allow anything there.

Right. In fact, I think between you and I, one reason they don't, that they've hid this so long and don't want to tell it, because it's not the people that would melt down. It's not me and you. It's not Alice in the mobile home park down the street or the average person, they would say, oh, boy, wonderful, and then tomorrow they're back grocery shopping.

Yeah. But it's the scientific community. It's the academic world that has spent their life in college and teaching people about evolution and all these far old things that they're still teaching that so far, they've got to change everything. So half the community that's teaching this would be lost. Where do we go from here?

You know, so I think the meltdown, would be there more than the average people. Another thing people say about this is that if this was to become accepted within humanity, it would destroy all religion. But what you see now with going back to even the Vatican is that they are looking into astronomy. I mean, there's an observatory at the Vatican, and they're looking at the stars and they're talking about the idea of extraterrestrial life. And they even say, like, if God could have created us and it could create ants and

caterpillars, why couldn't it create other beings that are somewhere else in the galaxy that are even intelligent, right? You can't limit God's creative freedom. And, you know, the Vatican is kind of becoming, you know, the religion. It is not counterintuitive. it is not counter to the idea of extraterrestrial life or another sort of multi-dimensional life form or being or entity that lives parallel to us. So when you think about that, I don't necessarily believe that it would have a negative

effect on established religions today. I think it will for the... the strictness of people. You've got religions that are pure cults that, you know, only we're going to go to heaven. You know, these Baptists over there, they can't make it. Or these or them, you know, you believe like us, or you're going to burn in hell. They don't even rationalize when it comes to this stuff. It's just straight by that book.

And they'll be the ones that would have the most to deal with, I think, because they don't have room for any deviation of possibilities other than what that book says. Example. In our area, North Carolina and the mountains, you have these snake charmers, snake handlers, churches that get together and they pull out rattlesnakes, and they're sitting there dancing with rattlesnakes. And about every year, two or three of them fall over dead. but they still believe because the book says if you believe in Jesus you can drink poison and you won't die

or you can take up a serpent and he'll bite you and you won't die but yet they get several a year fallout dead because of it but they still go right back and do the same thing and if you brought anything else into their belief spectrum you're probably going to melt their brain didn't you also say that sometimes beings come out of the orbs? Yeah, I have a video of one coming out of an orb.

Do we have that? I have it on my phone right here. I don't know how you're going to... I can download it. Is this the same video, Dad? This photo? No. That's not it.

That's a pretty interesting photo though if you want to show that while I find this. Well, I have this one that we showed them yesterday. Oh, is this the one of the person walking to the woods? It was very dark, but... Yeah. This person right here you can see is our friend Lori. Yeah. And I wasn't there, but this was in a wooded area behind our old home, so it's a little shady here, but you can see the light, daylight outside beyond the trees.

But this figure here was not anyone in our party. So whenever they looked at the photo later, there was just this fully fledged figure standing in front of Lori and also this peculiar. flash of light appeared right behind her. Right. Turn your air drop on if you know how there. It's on. I'm going to see here. This video she's getting now.

Okay. Is this the video of the thing coming out of the orb? No, she should be getting it now. Okay. This video down? That one. Okay. Now, let me tell you before you start this, what you're going to see.

Okay. I write about this in my book. There was a lady by the name of Sharon, very close to me and this family. We met her. I met her in a chapter in the book about how this Bible college tried to set me up, and it backfired on them. The whole audience left with me and left them sitting. But one of the ladies there was sick, had kidney cancer,

and her cancer, she had one kidney already removed, and her second kidney was already massacized with cancer, and her chemo wasn't working. So she was looking at death. And I met her on Saturday night. It's in the book. There's a lot about it. But Sunday morning, or Monday morning,

she went in for a scan and it was gone. Her kidney cancer was gone. And she was healed from it. So a couple years later, she calls me. And we stayed in touch, but she had cancer, had come back in her lungs, and she had stage four lung cancer. And she called me worried. She had to go in for a scan on Monday this next Monday and said,

can I come to your house? Can I come for prayer? I want you to help me. Because word had gotten around about this healing thing, which we bypassed earlier. Oh yeah, we need to go back. Yeah, so she shows up from two hours away on Friday evening or Saturday evening with her half a dozen friends. It was about five or six of them in total, all ladies.

I had three Native American friends. We were born in, I was born in Robinson County, which is where the Tuscaroras are from North Carolina's tribe is there. So wonderful people. I was raised with them all my life. and three of them actually called me and said, can we come by? We want to see the burning tree. I said, absolutely.

Perfect time to come because I have a lady that's sick and we can all say a prayer for. So they show up at my house and Sharon is standing on my left and her friend, one of them, standing on my right where I'm right between these two ladies and everybody else is meandering around. It's about eight or ten people there, more.

And you'll hear the natives standing at the burning tree singing, singing there, whatever they're singing. So chant. And at 31 seconds in the video, you'll see an orb appear six foot away, right in front of us, and it's rotating. They're always spinning. And it comes right up to me, five or six foot from me, and then flashes. When they flash like that is when these beings step out of these orbs.

So the being comes out of the orb, and now the orb. And now the orb is inside the being. So you can see this translucent figure where the orb inside. So that's how they come. I've seen them many times do this. And it moves to my left, out of screen, right in front of Sharon. And on Monday morning, all her cancer was gone, but one tiny little speck. She's cancer-free today.

How long after again? How long after was it all gone? It was gone. All this masses in her lungs were gone, but one of the cancer free. tiny little speck. How many days later? The weekend that Monday morning. Wow.

Okay. So you'll hear them singing here and then watch at 31 seconds. It'll flash, but you have to stop it and play with it to see this six-foot-tall, seven-foot-tall light being that comes out of that orb. Okay. I'll try my best. I can't hear it. Right about here.

Oh, I got one finally. Now, slow it down and rewind. I'll play it. You see the orb, that's the orb. There's the being. During the flash. They don't show it as good on this screen for some reason. Yeah, the screen is not right on here.

Yeah, if you can look at that, you can see the full-blown being, legs, arms, and all. Really? Yeah. I don't know if I can turn it to you. Yes, if you can. See how bright that orb is? Yeah. So wait, where's the beam?

To the left of the screen? Mm-hmm. This is inside the bean now, this orb. Can you go frame by frame? If you hit the side arrows on the keyboard, on the bottom left of the keyboard itself. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you can go frame by frame there.

Go back the other way to it appears. Come on back, and you'll see the orb appear and approach us. All right now, right here, the orb appears. I've already backed up So I'll back up again To before And it flashes So we're before now

Okay This is headed forward Okay now we're going forwards Orb appears Flash there's one flash It's like one frame Yeah Now it's gonna go away

So go back to that one So during that one frame Is when you're saying you see the being Yeah Yeah but that frame Right there's the being And now the orb stays inside of the beam

and you can see if you look at it on a good shot, a good camera or a computer, you can see a translucent figure move and the orb is with it. Yeah, right there we can only see like a sliver of something. Right. But you can see the difference on this computer. Right, yeah, you can.

Huh. But that that was right, that was in 2014, I think. Remember, I couldn't share anything before 2012. After 2012, I began to share it with everybody. But when 2013 comes along, the lady comes again. And she texts me to some desert place, which I perceive as Utah. I'm pretty sure it is.

I've been obsessed with it, and I think she's going to come back. And I'll be able to film her there. That's bizarre. So, Sharon, what did you make of her being healed? of the cancer literally two days later? That's where she came. That's why she came.

See, let me say this. In 2013, when the lady came back and I went about this, take me to Utah. When I saw her, she imparted another thing on me that I may have had it before,

but I didn't realize it until two weeks later. This is how it arose. And this is what got NASA, Tim involved with the health thing. Easter, 2013, I had the experience with her again. May the fifth, I think. It was just a few days later, less than two weeks later,

this investigator from Canada calls me and wants to come by and visit. He's on the way to Miami, and we live right along 95, so it was five minutes off 95 for him. He said, can I stop? I'm leaving Washington going to Miami. I'm sure it's Daynight if you want. So he did. And my Labador, Nelly,

was, this is Nellie. She was walking along beside us. We went out to the tree, and he must have took 20 pictures of the tree, and we talked for 15, 20 minutes standing there. Nellie was laying on the ground beside me. We get back to the edge of the patio.

We walked all the way back, about 75 yards out there. So when we would get back to the patio, my kids were on the patio, hanging out, sitting around. Grant and I stopped right at the edge of the cement. Nelly stops and she was laying there beside me. She'd walked everywhere we went. She'd walk and stopped and lay down.

So I looked at Grant, I said, Grant, kids are here. You want us to help you get your bags. You can go ahead and put them in the house and use the bathroom, whatever. He's like, yeah, why not? So he's between me in the house. I'm looking at him at the back door.

So he turns his back and he starts towards the door. Nelly stands up off the ground. And when she walked by him, I saw blood shoot out of her neck in a long stream. And it wet the whole side of his pants. Went right by Grant and wet his pants. And I had pictures of it. And she left the trail of blood going in and ran in the back door. Now dogs were get in front of you and try to go in before you do.

Well, that's what she did. the door was wide open. Blood spraying everywhere. And I freaked out, oh, my God, what's happening to my dog? And I ran in and I tackled her. She got five or six feet in the back door when I grabbed her. Blood all over the floor. And it had a laminar floor, it's like slipping on grease.

And I picked her up, and it was all I could do to get her up was I was dealing with rheumatoid then, and it was just a struggle. I met it to the patio, and I laid her down. And I looked at her neck, and she had a hole. maybe inch and a half, two inches long, a gash across her vein right there and blood is just pouring out. So I laid my hand on her neck and blood's pouring up through my fingers like this and feel her heartbeat. She was just kind of squirming, but she won't fighting too hard. I look up at them, and I realized that she was going to die.

I knew it because they wouldn't call her no ambulance. There wasn't no time to get her to the doctor. We lived 20 miles or 20 minutes from anywhere. And everybody's freaked out. Grant's sitting there taking pictures. He's recording this whole thing. And I said, what am I going to do? And I looked up at the sky and I said,

Lord, what am I going to do? She's going to die right here. And as soon as I said that, I felt this energy come through my hand. And I felt her go completely limp. And when I raised my hand, there was no more hole in her neck. Nothing, it was gone. Everybody witnessed it. Were you there?

I was not there. No. But all her brothers were there. It was a weird story to come home to, though. Yeah. I will say. But there was a lot of witnesses to it. Grant, a UFO investigator from Canada is one of the most famous out there.

He's the one that saw it all. He took that picture. I didn't. And there are more pictures. of the blood going in the house and all. But we couldn't figure out what happened at all. How did she get

the hole in her neck? What did that? What I didn't know who to call, so I called Tim. I said, Tim, the craziest thing just happened today. You won't believe this. That's the same dog. It's so pixelated on that screen.

But anyhow, he told me, he said, Chris, he said, maybe the phenomenon was showing you you have a gift that you need to try to do something with. And so that changed my life that year

to, this was 2014, to where it is today. That's what I do. I've done more trying to help people who are sick than I ever reveal or talk about it's every day. my life. I have people right in me, people who are sick, people I go and visit and try to help.

And I've seen some miracles happen. Why me? I don't know. What caused it? I don't know. But it is. And it happened. And immediately Tim's like, you need to follow this. And that's what got me involved with him with his encouragement to get me to help others and to working on his the project he was working on for stem cells. Wow. And it just led from two, three weeks later, a month later, I get a call from the guy in that great big house you were wearing it, wondering about, and said, we have a child in Washington that's sick, and he's from a prominent family, and we want you to see if you can help him.

I'm like, Lord, I don't know what to do. This is all new to me. I have no clue what has happened. how did this all happen? Why? You know, what do I do? He said, well, you just need to come try. I'm like, well, it's 4th of July.

My family's coming home on the weekend. All the kids, we're going to do something. He's like, well, what's more important, you know, hanging out and partying or helping some child that is got to make a wish. He's going to die. He's not going to live past 12, 13 years old. And I said, well, you got me there. So next day I was on an airplane to Washington,

and I was sitting at that young boy in the bottom right there. To his left is Jim SimiVan. This whole party, that was his bar mitzvah, was the heads of the CIA, the director. That's Ryan, my brother. Ryan, and this is Mike Morel, the deputy director. this little boy is right in their group of people and so when I got to his house

I was terrified I don't know what to do I know where to start you know I've been asked to do this what the heck do I don't even know how I help the dog much less to help a child or somebody sick and so I sat there with him and his mom and dad for

several hours just talking and feeling out the situation and silently praying, Lord help me. You got me into this. How do I deal with this? What do I do? And this voice said, not an audible voice, but just something spoke to me and said,

just hug him. Just reach out and hug him. And so I waited to the perfect time to do so. And I reached out and I hugged him real good. And he couldn't eat. He couldn't eat. He hadn't been able to eat most of his life at all. If he eat, he would throw up.

He had this mitochondrial DNA disease, which your body just doesn't digest food and get the nourishments from it. So usually they don't live past 12, 13 years old. They're dead. And so he had to make a wish, and this group of people pulled around him. And he's in college now. He's completely healed. He's fine. Wow.

Yeah. And it is a lot more to it. In that party right there, you see all these people, there are hundreds in there people, hundreds of Washington. Washington, D.C., the most prominent intel folks, judges, doctors, cardiologists, his grandpa was there, cardiologists. And I'm sitting at a table next to Jim. Jim's table. These big round white tables were cloths

with Jewish flags. And it was just I never been to a bar mitzbo. But the table behind me I heard this ruckus and the band, they were dancing just like that whole crowd.

They knew how to party and they were having the best time. I'm sitting watching my children and have fun. And I heard this ruckus. Next thing I know, Jim's wife, Debbie grabs me, picks me up basically and pulls me to this other table

and says, you got to help this guy. And he was slumped over face down. I mean, alcohol completely turned white, and they were trying to revive him, couldn't get him away. And they drugged me through the crowd, and I put my hands on his shoulders. The very instant I did, he set up.

and took a big breath and they looked at me and said my God you saved them that happened in that party yep or did in front of these people imagine

that's Washington how do you even deal with that like being you and that happening like how do you even comprehend that I don't

I don't That's amazing, man. Dad's helped a lot of people. And he doesn't always talk about it because he's afraid of sounding like, you know, that he does special things. He doesn't want the credit for it, but he really has put a lot of energy and a lot of effort into helping people. Not always in front of people either, you know, behind closed doors. Right. Most of it's private.

He's very emotional. when it comes to that, understandably. This little boy, he's in his 20s now. He's a junior in college. Wow. Yep. But I don't know. I don't know, Dan.

I have no clue. Sorry, Dad. It's always interesting when people ask us what our experiences, you know, they expect us to say we see UFOs and aliens. But it's so much more complicated than that. And it comes down to this sort of thing as well. How do you explain that? someone in a 10-minute, you know, conversation that it also is so spiritual and there's like

a healing aspect to it. It's so multifaceted that I don't think people can really wrap their heads around it. But if like anyone could try to understand from a base perspective, it's just like that this is a benevolent spiritual experience that is open to everybody that for some reason and we are, you know, I guess semi-responsible for sharing and promoting to people. Is there? If it were evil, why would we be, why would he be able to heal people, you know?

Yeah. But I don't see it as me doing it. It's the phenomenon. Maybe. Whether you're a vessel or whether you're doing it, it's like happening around us. And so I'm not saying necessarily you have powers or anything, but there is evidence and facts that you,

who for some reason are surrounded by healing. And if this were an evil sort of phenomenon, why would this be happening? It's really hard to comprehend all of this. It's a lot. It's so mind-blowing. It's incredible. It's incredible.

And there's there, I know, like, we talked about this a little bit last night, but there's people who try to gain this or tap into this phenomenon the same way you do right like I know Tim there's Diana talked about

in her new book how Tim he has like a protocol that he tries to follow to try to like cleanse his spirit and and meditate and be in the sunlight to where he can sort of people can learn or train themselves to tap into into something else that you are just intuitively you're already hardwired into it

Yeah. In one way or another. Well, that's what they're studying my brain for, right? They know it's connected on the History Channel thing. The scientists said he can just, you know, Buddhist monks studies 30 years of his life to get to this enlightened state. And they said, well, he just goes in it instantly just met my fingers and I'm there. And I don't understand it.

I don't know that I'm even doing that. I just, I don't understand, but that's questions I don't know. Right. I try to steal away from that. I just have the, I have a mission to share this in the way it comes, you know. Well, I can't wait to go out and watch the sky with you guys again and I tell you that much. Yeah. Thank you so much for coming on here and sharing the story.

We just talked about it for like four hours, I think. Yeah. I will link your book, UFO of God, below for people to check it out. I highly recommend it. One of the most gripping books I've ever read. It's phenomenal. I appreciate that. Thank you for writing it.

And thanks again. Is there anything else that I should, anything else I should tell people about to get to hold of you guys or find you guys online? Yeah, you can find my website is UFOofgod.com. And there you can find a link to Amazon to buy the book. or you can go straight to Amazon or wherever books are sold, I guess. But you can find me on TikTok. I post about this stuff.

My name is Blood So Baby, because I'm the baby, you know. So I post stuff relevant to the story on there. And then I have a website called Emily Holloway.com. I teach voice. But we do have one announcement before we go, and then we'll work in. So also on my website, you can find my Instagram where I post videos. There's a few hundred videos or photos on there. I'll make sure I link all those below.

Yeah. And this, I think we can just go ahead and talk about this without getting into any details. This book has been, is in the process of making a motion picture. Oh, wow. Yeah. Exciting. Yeah. This is our first, we got the go ahead to just say that much, and that's all we're

allowed to say. Okay. This is the first time publicly we're admitting that there is a motion picture. Teasing me. I can't wait. It's under development right now. Okay. Well, it has to keep me posted.

Rumor is it might be three parts, three shows. Wow. Exciting stuff. See where it goes. Well, cool. I hope this helped get the word out. And, again, I can't thank you guys. Thank you, honestly.

I appreciate it. This is wonderful. All right. Goodbye world.