Danny Jones Podcast - #262 - Ancient Rome's Antichrist & the 'Satanic' Origins of the United States | Gnostic Informant

Episode Date: September 23, 2024

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I don't get mad at people for opinions, even if it's like the most highness thing in the world. As long as they treat me with respect, I don't care. Yeah, well, there's no shortage of opinions nowadays, dude. They're f***ing everywhere. People in every corner of the internet have some crazy, ridiculous opinion about anything. And people trying to, like, shut people down for just, like,

giving their thoughts. I just don't, you know, which is kind of the central issue in this, what we're about to discuss, is like American philosophy or the founding father's philosophy. Like what did it all come from? Is it Judeo-Christian?

You know, you hear that a lot. People say, the Constitution and Declaration of Independence is a Judeo-Christian document. Thank Jesus for such a... People actually believe that? Yes. Really?

Oh, my God, yes. They will stand by this. I was debating Crucible, Andrew Wilson, and he's like convinced that, this was supposed to be a Christian nationalist nation. And the founding fathers believed that. A Christian nationalist nation. Which all the evidence goes against, by the way. There's just no evidence

that any of the founding fathers, even if they were Christian, which some of them were, which I'll point out, some of them were. They did not intend America to be a Christian national country, Christian nationalist country. Like, for example, Holy Roman Empire, which was before Germany, it's modern day Germany. they call themselves the Holy Roman Empire you know Italy Church of England in England

you know this that was the that was the world order before the end of the 18th century was Christian nationalism in many senses Yeah Now didn't Thomas Payne

I was reading his book So before he started Going into like digging in on the Bible He was like He was supportive of basically Christian morals, right?

He was saying that the laws of man or the laws of our, of a nation should be guided by the laws of God. Yes. And not by. They were, so a lot of people say that these founding fathers are mostly deists in the sense that they just sort of attribute a mind to the universe itself and, um, just kind of go off there and have reason before dogma. The reason is your guiding light.

A lot of the founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson was one. Thomas Payne, too, even though Thomas Payne was so critical of Christianity, as you know, you were reading age of reason. He's just trying to debunk the Bible left and right. But then he'll say things like, but the real Jesus probably taught this. Probably was a philosopher. Probably was a good dude. You see this with Thomas Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson wrote a text called the syllabus.

And this syllabus was basically he's taking scissors to the Bible, cutting off the whole Old Testament. gone. Needles didn't need that no more. All right, New Testament, what do we got? Oh, all the epistles and all that stuff, Revelation, gone. All right, what do we got left? We got, oh, we got four Gospels left. Okay, what do we have to chopping off everything except for the red letters, which is, I say red letters because modern Bibles put Jesus' quotes in red in some modern Bibles.

So I'm just saying, I'm not saying he had a Bible with right letters, but I'm saying, he chops off only the quotes from Jesus himself. So all he has left is sayings from Jesus. He's that no crucifixion scene. Who were talking about? Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson did this. And some people call it the Jefferson Bible.

He called it a syllabus for whatever reason. And what he's left with is he's left with a basically a list of sayings of Jesus in his philosophies. And he thought that Jesus himself was a swell dude, someone to follow, someone who challenged the status quo, someone who thought with reason. And in many ways, he's right. In many ways, so for example, one of the Torah laws is on the Sabbath, if your animal falls into a ditch, you cannot go and get that animal out of the ditch. It's going to stay in that ditch until the next day. And hopefully he doesn't die. Right, right, right. Because you can't work on the Sabbath. And Jesus says, come on. You're not going to go and get your we can get our animals on the Sabbath. That's not a, God gave the Sabbath.

man. So he's basically saying like, we can do things on the Sabbath. He picks grain on the Sabbath and gives it to his disciples. Apparently, David did the same thing in one of the books from Kings and Chronicles. So Jesus is sort of like a philosopher going against the grain,

putting reason ahead of everything else. And that's what Thomas Jefferson, that's the Thomas Jefferson's view of Jesus. Yeah. And Thomas Payne was a little more, a little more critical of Christianity. Another thing Thomas Payne says, I'm sorry, let me go back to Thomas Jefferson.

Thomas Jefferson, just capped off what he thought about Jesus. He said, Jesus was as well, dude, Christianity, I'm the only real Christian. Jefferson. Jefferson says this. But that's not a good thing for Christians. Christians can't really claim this,

and I'll tell you why. Okay. He says, the Trinity is incoherent. He says, how can one be the same as another, and then the same as another? That's three. That's polytheism. He says, that's nonsense.

He says, the church is Platonism. He says, the church is just pure Platonism. Here, let me pull up a letter from him where he writes this, so I can give you the exact quote. The church is Platonism. Yeah, he says this. Is he talking about like a noble lie? Yeah.

So in 1813, in 1823, on April 11th, Jefferson wrote to John Adams. He says, the truth is that the greatest enemies to the doctrines, of Jesus are those calling themselves Christians, these expositors of them, who have perverted them for the structure of a system of fancy, absolutely incomprehensible, and without any foundation in his genuine words. And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the supreme being, his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva, the goddess Minerva. Basically saying the day will come

when people will realize that the stories about Jesus being the son of God, it will be a fable, just like we talk about the fable of Minerva. Called it a fable. Okay. And then he says, but we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States

will do away with all this artificial scaffolding and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors. So he's saying the historical Jesus is someone that's great who lived with reason and foul.

The Bible and the myths about Jesus are garbage, they're fables, we don't need them. So it's very distinct. It's not modern day Christianity. He's like a Gnostic heretic. He's a heretic. There's no way around that. There's not a single Christian or Catholic or Orthodox

that would claim that and say, I believe that. None of them. It's just heresy. one more thing I want to point out he says about the Platonism thing Yeah one of the things that really stuck out to me

about Thomas Payne's Age of Reason where he's talking about Christianity Being a I think he calls it a pious fraud And he said the thing about it is It gets lost in translation From the first Christian preachers Who started talking about it To the second generation of Christian preachers

That started talking about it all the way down to the third generation of Christian preachers that were talking about it until eventually gets so far down the line. They forget that it was a fraud in the first place. Right. Especially when you have people making a livelihood by preaching it. Yeah. And then by the fourth century, council of Nicaa comes along. And they're holding these ecumenical councils into saying, we believe this and this is doctrine now.

Well, why didn't Jesus say that? Why didn't Jesus say that I am part of a Trinity? and if you don't believe in this Trinity, you're not a Christian. He never says that. In fact, he tells people to get to heaven, be good. Treat your neighbors good. That's all he says. He doesn't say believe in, he doesn't even say, but you have to believe I resurrected.

When did the council of Nicaa happened? 325. 325. Yeah. And what was the purpose of it? We're talking 300 years after Jesus is dead. Right. The purpose was to say that to be in order to be a member of the church of Christianity,

the Orthodox Catholic Church, you have to believe in a Trinity that God and the Father and the Holy Spirit all won. They're all one. So before that, that wasn't exactly doctrine. So, yeah. So Jesus himself didn't really preach that. And Thomas Jefferson is pointing this out, that this church has been corrupted by Platonism,

which is what Nietzsche also agrees with. Now, in 1816, on January 9th, he wrote a letter to Charles Thompson. And he's talking about this syllabus that he wrote. And he says, I too have made a wee little book from the same materials which I call the philosophy of Jesus. It is a paradigm of his doctrines made by cutting the text out of the book

and arranging them on pages of a blank book in order, an order, a more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have ever seen. It is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus, very different from the Platonist who will call me an infidel He's saying the church A bunch of Platonists

They're not Christians This is all philosophy And they're not actually following reason Jesus, he thinks in his opinion Jesus follow reason Now me personally I think he's going too far Why I think he didn't even need Jesus Just follow reason

Which is what Thomas Payne was doing Thomas Payne was like reason That's it That's your that's your logos And so But I guess Tom I guess I could see what Thomas Jefferson was doing when 90% of your population are Christians. You kind of have to play the game.

Right. So you really don't have a choice there. But yeah. So. Yeah, totally. And then the other founding fathers like Benjamin Franklin and John Adams, those guys were working really closely with Thomas Payne. Right. And Thomas Payne was actually instrumental in writing parts of the Declaration of Independence.

and I think he was actually one of the reviewers of the Declaration of a bit, even though he didn't sign it. He was there. He was there in Philadelphia in 1776. He was the philosophy. He was the mind behind the whole operation. He influenced all of this liberty-loving, wisdom-loving, the return to the Greco-Roman ideals of republics and democracy.

No, the Roman Republic. the Athenian democracy, those ideals, those constitutions set up by Solon, set up by Demosthenes, set up by Cicero, those type of, that type of philosophical worldview to lead people with, rather than the doctrinal or, or, what's the word, dogma set forth by religion. Right. Do this or else. John Adams was, as you mentioned, he's. One of his most blunt, famous quotes about this says, government should not be founded anyway on the Christian religion. Just straight up says it.

Our government will not be founded any way on the Christian religion. So there is no Judeo-Christian ethics in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence. It's just not there. There's no Ten Commandments there. There is no Pauline epistles there. It doesn't even mention Jesus in any of these documents. So there's, I mean, it's pretty obvious. What do you make of, I asked you this before the podcast, but I was saying,

what do you make of so many people online you see like YouTubers, like Candice Owens, like Jordan Peterson, Russell Brand, all these people like suddenly being born again Christians? I think they're on a team. I think they're playing for a team. I almost want to say it's sometimes, for some people it's a grift. For other people, they believe in that side so much.

They believe in the conservative worldview, the, you know, the more of a nationalist-leaning worldview. They believe in it so much. And then everyone there's Christian. So you got to spiritually become part of this. And so they're going to,

I think people like that sort of convince themselves that it's true. Yeah. And they don't look for evidence on the contrary. They're not looking at, they're not reading Bart Ehrman. They're not looking at like, is it really true? They're finding out how is it, how can I make this true and sort of convincing themselves that? And then you get people who want to convince themselves that the founding fathers somehow set up this country for Christians and only for Christians. As we pointed out, all these quotes from these letters from these founding fathers, where they're saying the opposite.

I mean, like, getting back to that, it's just, if I had a dollar for every podcaster I've seen make videos of themselves getting baptized on their Instagram. Yeah. I think it's a grift. I think it's a grift. I do. I mean, not everybody maybe. Like I mentioned, some of them really probably, like, convinced themselves and they actually believe it after a while because they want it to be true. Because that's the team they're on.

But I think it's identity politics and just they don't call identity politics. everyone else is doing identity politics. Oh, the trans movement, all the Black Lives Ladder movement. It's all identity politics, except for me. Even though identity politics could be Christians. As a Christian, I believe this. Because the Bible says so. Even if I don't actually believe it, I have to believe it.

That's identity politics. It's the same thing. Yeah. You know? It's just crazy to see it happen in real time. It came out of nowhere, like, over the last couple years. It did. everyone's and that that's one of the things me and matt bale were talking about and he's he's pretty oh matt bell

matt bell yeah yeah he um he's he he's uh as he points out like people are driven by identity these days whether what's i don't care what kind of side of the political spectrum you're on it seems to be everyone is being sucked into some sort of identity where nobody can actually live as themselves as there's they're sucked into some sort of like What is this, Steve? It's a Greek translation for Jesus used Him's hair. Regrow your hair like Jesus with Him's hair loss solutions. It's a miracle in a bottle, baby.

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Now back to the show. group think. I mean, there's so many of them. Yes. There's a whole different group things everywhere. It's almost like little mini cults everywhere. And they don't realize it. They think everyone else is doing it except for themselves.

But it seems to be that everybody sort of gets sucked into some sort of identity area. Definitely. Definitely. And then there's the whole other side of this thing where the internet props up or the internet sort of amplifies people with the most extreme view. on different things, whether you'd be right or left. The people that are the loudest have the craziest views, and they're the ones that get the most retweets or the most views on any kind of shit on Twitter or YouTube. And people see that the most because it's so inflammatory.

It gets the most attention, and people think, oh, this must be normal. Yeah. Or that must be normal. And this is just the way the world is now. Yeah. Meanwhile, like, what you see on Twitter is not. not the real world. These are people behind keyboards trying to get attention. There's this, I talked about it on the last podcast that we did, but there's this thing called the, there's a

my friend Julian in New Jersey has this theory called the Wawa theory. He goes, you want to see how the world really is. Just go to Wawa. He goes, you see people online fighting and talking about how, you know, there's going to be a civil war. The right and the right and the left are going to kill each other at this end of the world. But then you go to Wawa and you see the girl with the green hair holding the door for the Vietnam veteran. It's not really what you see online. Right. The internet does amplify things a little bit. And I notice another thing that I know is people who I know in person who are normally

kind of chill and they have their opinions or whatever, they don't really get crazy with it. When you see them online, they act like going crazy. Oh, hey, Trump needs to win. Or the world's going to end. Or if Trump wins, the world's going to end. But you see these people in person. That's not how they communicate. They're just chilling.

Right. They're like, yeah, whatever. That's not a normal human interaction. No. A normal one-on-one human interaction, that would be so weird if somebody was talking to you like that.

Right. It's only on the internet where you see that. Yeah, it's a fake person. It's a fake thing. Especially when you can put an avatar in front of your name. Right. And with a nickname.

And then you could just say whatever. You just go into anonymous mode and you can just do it. And then you get, then you get dark. People get dark with that. Oh, yeah. You can say whatever and no one's going to know it's you.

You know? That's why I think a lot of that's going on, like with that guy I just had on who's talking about the Civil War stuff, how he thinks it's going to be a Civil War. What if Altis? By the time this video comes out, I've already debated him. Yeah, that's funny that you saw. I just released that podcast with him this morning and you said you're planning on debating him already. Yeah.

That's my thing with like with that. Like he, I don't know anything about his lifestyle, but he clearly studies a lot of history and he reads a lot of shit. but everything you read in books and everything you see online like what we just said is not the real world sure it's not what it's like right now when you walk outside and deal with a group of human beings i mean sometimes depending on where you are right if you're in chicago at a Palestinian LGBTQ protest that's a different thing than going to wawa well that that's the one thing about what if all this that i i think he's a little wrong on, just to use a lack of a better term, he sees the world so black and white.

It's either a communist or it's either good. There's the good free market and then there's the communist evil leftism. And he looks at all of history through this dual lens of basically in the 1400s, everybody was a communist. And everyone, for the next 300 years, everyone was communist and everything was bad. And then all of a sudden this person came along and then they brought free markets back. And everything was good for now the 200 years. Like that's how he, that's all you get from him. And I don't, I just don't, I think it's lazy.

I think it's, I don't think it's good historical rigor. I don't think he's doing, I think his methodology is terrible. I don't think he reads a lot of history books. Maybe he reads like, definitely reads a shit. I think he reads books about history from historians like from, you know, I think Some of them are a little outdated, but I don't think he, I don't know. To me his primary sources are off. What are you going to debate him on?

The Middle Ages, the Dark Ages. Oh, really? What's specifically about the Dark Ages? I hold to the opinion that, and I admit, I'm coming at this from the non, I'm actually giving him the upper hand because the consensus is that the Middle Ages weren't that dark. The term Dark Ages comes from a Renaissance writer. named Petrarch and he coined the term

Dark Ages and basically he was looking at the period between 500 AD to 1,000 AD and he was saying that the literature that came out in this

period was all garbage right it's nothing compared to Homer and Hesiod and Ascalis and Euripides and Sappho

right the classical world was way more bright way more three-dimensional and colorful and then

the dark ages was this period of Christianity Christianity took over and suffocated to all and there was no more literature, no more theater, no more art.

So he calls it the Dark Ages. That's my, I hold, I agree with Petrarch. I agree with Nakiavelli. I agree with all the people who hold the Enlightenment thinkers that thought this as well. Yeah. That's the term enlightenment comes from coming out of the Dark Ages, enlightenment, which is perfectly what we're about to get into, actually.

Enlightenment. So what are his views? How do his views different from marriage? He thinks that was the best time in the world. He thinks that was... The Dark Ages? He thinks the Dark Ages was the best time. He's a Christian. He thinks that was the time when everything was perfect and that the Enlightenment was the corruption of the world

everything's bad because of the Enlightenment. Huh. He didn't did he say that when he was in here? I told you, the one thing that we talked about was the creation of democracy because I told him that the Greeks created democracy, right? Like the The word is demos, Kratos, it's Greek.

Right. You can't have democracy without Greek. It's impossible. This is not even a subjective thing. Who did he say Francis Bacon? He said Francis Bacon was the one, I think, who created, who invented democracy. This is not. This is,

you can, to me, Sir Francis, to me, that's not a historian. Yeah. You cannot, you cannot not know. If you don't know

that democracy comes from the Greeks, that you don't, what are we doing? Well, I think he said that, like, he said that there's a difference in coming up with a theory

and putting it to test. They did put it to test. Bacon, like, refined it. So let me explain, let me just put this to rest right now. Yes. In Athens,

between the time of so in the time of Aristotle actually. So maybe a little after that. You know, Plato's Aristotle's time. There was a system of government and there was gaps. There was tyrants.

Tyrants would come up and start ruling oligarchies for little periods of time. It happened at the end of the 5th century BCE from like 420 BC, I'm just guessing, till 405, 404 BCE. There was an area called

the 30 tyrants. Okay. But before that and after that, they had a system of government with no king, no emperor. They had senators that were elected by the people called Archons. Arcons. Yeah, rulers, it means. And they weren't allowed to be married or have kids, right? I don't think that's true.

No, I think that's true. I thought they weren't because that would be a conflict of interest because they were supposed to be looking out for the state or the city or whatever it was. Well, I don't know if that's because their terms were only two years. Their terms were only two years. The terms were two years. They were getting flipped. Actually, in Athens, I think it was one year. Oh, sure.

In Rome, it was two years. We have four year presidencies. Right. They had, in Rome, they had two year consuls. So Rome was a republic. Okay. But let's stake with Athens for a second. Okay.

They had a Senate. They had people who were getting elected and taken out of power, elected, taken out of power, which is democracy. They were being voted up. things were being voted for by the people who had citizenship. So as long as you're an Athenian citizen, you had voting power. Now, that doesn't mean somebody from Syria can come and join in the election. They had a real democracy. There is no other definition for it.

That's not them thinking of a theory, and then it gets realized 600,000 years later. That's objectively incorrect. And that's bad historian. That's a bad historian. For him not to know, what do you think Descartes came up with the word democracy? by going back to Greek, the word is Greek. Demos Cretos, Demos meaning people. Cretos meaning rule.

So where do you think it came from? Demos Cretos. And the Republic, the ideas of Republic, comes out of that system where the Romans have their own version of this, where they have consuls that are elected every two years, two consuls, one from each party, the Popularist Party, the Optimates Party. They have these two, and they have this huge Senate, giant Senate, elected by people. who were once again people who were Roman citizens. So the end of the Roman Republic sets up this emperor.

You have an emperator. And the Senate basically doesn't have as much power anymore. They're just sort of, they're wealthy, they're just wealthy, like, landowners at this point. And which sets up for the end of this type of way of life. And so, yeah, this. Because they shouldn't be allowed to own land, right? An emperor or a senator? A senator.

They own land. They all, yeah. Really? Yes. They all own land. They're all rich, wealthy landowners. Amin was telling me the original version, the original purest version of democracy where the people that were the rulers and the senators and those people, they weren't allowed to own land. That's interesting.

We can look that up. He's the PhD classes. I don't know. Yeah. That I didn't think that was. Maybe I'm getting that wrong. Yeah. That's what I remember.

In Athens or in Rome. Athens. I know for sure. Athens. I know for sure Roman senators own land. Cicero had his own. a change later. Cicero had a giant villa. He was basically equivalent of a millionaire. But did, no, no, Athenian senators. We already know Roman senators did.

Yeah, that's Athenian. Athenian with a B. There isn't much information about whether Athenians had had land, but here's some related info. There were property qualifications for Athenian offices, except for those that required... There were no property qualifications for Athenian officers, except for those that require professional expertise. However, the Athenian Boulé or Council of 500 was dominated by men of property because poor citizens might not have been willing to serve. Interesting. Wealthy aristocrats controlled both the land and the government in Athens and poor landowners eventually became enslaved. But I mean, like how long did they, like they were around for like thousands of years, right?

Yeah, they were. Oh, yeah. For the Athenian democracy? Yeah. Not thousands of years, hundreds of years. Hundreds. Yeah. Really?

It has changed. Solon, I think Solon was the first to give the laws to the Athenians. Lycurgis was the lawgiver of the Spartans. And they both had these basically systems. Well, I wonder what Solon said the qualifications to be a politician would be. That's a really good. Can you look up like, what did Solon say the qualifications of being in government? Good question.

That's a good question. I ever thought about that. Just type in Solon. S-O-L-O-N. Solon qualifications for governance. And yeah, the idea that democracy was thought about by the Athenians, but not practice, is not even, like, if we're talking about, like, what's your favorite color? That's subjective. This is objectively false to say that the Athenians aren't Democrats.

Objectively false. Right. And that's really, it's surprising that someone, I'm talking crap right now, but it's a, it's surprising that someone would consider himself a historic. Maybe he's, maybe, to be fair, maybe he focuses on other areas, not in the ancient world. That's fine. But you said that, uh, shouldn't make statements about that then. He said classics ends in the rent, before the Renaissance. Is that right?

Study of classics, the classical history. Study the classics starts back in the Renaissance. Classesists don't study the Renaissance. What he said. Yes, they do. They do? Oh, well, it depends. Even though our government is really corrupt, it's not so bad when you party with zbiotics pre-alcohol.

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back to the show. Classicist do, okay, he's kind of right. Classist study the Roman and Greeks period. Latin and Greek antiquity. Basically from the Iron age until the middle ages. Right, right, right.

So that's classics period. But there are some classics that will, for example, Mary Beard, she does focus on Renaissance stuff. But yeah, you know, he's kind of right. I shouldn't say he's wrong on that. Solon's constitution reduce the power of the old or

aristocracy by making wealth rather than birth a criterion. So it's the other way around. Political positions. Okay. Yeah, the wealth. The landowners are the ones who are in power and they're ones who are senators. A system called timocratia, democracy. Democracy.

Citizens were also divided based on their land production. Penteco. Oh my Jesus. I don't know that word. Pentecostamid. That's the constitution. and that Solon is mentioned by the Founding Fathers as someone that they're drawing from. The idea of a Constitution, where do you get it from?

You get it from Solon. You get it from Glide Kyrgyz. You get it from the Romans. That's a constitutional democracy. But why would wealth be a criteria of holding a political position? Because you have to have a stake in what you're deciding. You can't just be some random guy who has no idea of the economy is doing. Think about logistics.

All right. Somebody owns cow. this person cuts down timber, that person is a ore minor. And they have to like trade with each other. Right. So they all own stuff. They all own, they have to own property to do that. Right.

So they understand the inner workings of the society. They know the logistics. They know the economy. Those are the people that have to make the choices. Sorry, I'm sorry, but the random person that's drunk at the bar shouldn't have the same. I mean, I'm not saying, I'm talking about back. I agree. You get what I'm saying.

The random person who has no idea what's going on outside. side of and how he even has a bar to go to or how he even has the opportunity to go to the city hall and do whatever. Right. That's the, that's the idea that they were going for. Right. So, and that's, by the way, that's how the original American system was. Wealthy landowners were the ones who were voting and stuff like that.

Now, now today we have a different system. Yeah, you couldn't vote unless you owned land. Yeah. He had to own land. You had to be American citizen. And you had to be a male. Now, I don't agree with that. I just want to make that clear.

I don't think that's correct. But I think there was a reason why it progressed the way it did. Because now in today's world, we have a different system of things. We have different logistics. Women can now work in different companies. All people can get educated now. So now that everyone's educated, everyone can vote. It's that simple.

What do you think about the idea, hypothetical idea? Not that I believe this should be enacted. but instead of everyone being able to vote, just, I'm just kidding. Just a king? No, just the men. Oh, yeah, that's how it used to be. No, no, no.

I was going to say, like, you have to take a test to get your driver's license, right? Yeah. What if you had to take a test to, to qualify? Just some sort of basic test. To make sure, yeah, to make sure you understand what you're doing. The things that you're voting on.

Not that you're just coming in because you've been fed propaganda. Right. I totally agree with that. Yeah. And I'm not saying to make it so, so hard that someone who's not educated and doesn't have a stake in things. I'm saying, let's make it basic. Lots of a good argument.

Yeah. What if you're uneducated and you can't? You want to vote. But you still have a stake in things. Like, you still have things that you're, you know, maybe you're dependent on something and you want to vote for that. Right. So you still should be able to vote. Right.

So that's what I'm saying. If we can design the test where it's sort of not like bias in one space, where it's basic, it's basic like, okay, if you don't, you can't pass this basic test, you're should. shouldn't be voting. I agree with that. There should be criteria for, you know, I don't know. I don't know if that will ever happen. No, probably won't. So I don't, if someone gets mad at me for saying that, look, I'm not dying on that hill. Right. I'm just talking crap right now. Well, we're doing the complete opposite, according to the internet. It looks like they're flooding people.

You don't even need ID in New York. They're flooding thousands of people across the southern borders. Last time I voted, I went in, I went in there with my ID ready. And I'm like, and they're like, what's your name? When was this? 2020? 20. Yeah. And, uh, they asked for my. ask my name and I was ready to hand them my ID and they just said, hey, go ahead. There's ballots over there. And I said, don't you want my ID? They're like, no, we don't do that in New York State.

What? Don't ID you in New York State. Holy shit. Let's say I didn't vote. Now, this is going to be very rare, obviously. That's crazy. Because every time someone votes, they cross off the name. So somebody can't come in five minutes later and say my name and vote 10 times.

They can't do that. One person gets one vote. Boom, done. So that sort of limits how much fraud that can happen already. Secondly, but here's the here is one little tiny loophole. I don't know how big of a deal this is, but let's say I said, I'm not voting. I'm staying home and you knew this and you lived down the street for me in my district. You can potentially go and vote and then go back home for, you know, eight hours, 10 hours,

come back with a little hat on in the hood and say my name and vote twice. You can do it. But it would have to work out that you knew your friend wasn't voting. Yeah. And you vote. You can do, that's, there's no, New York has no way of stopping that. That's fucking insane, dude. It's true.

I mean, like, how does it work with people that are like unregistered, unregistered citizens or like, not legal citizens? Like, how would they be able to get? They're not citizens. I don't think they're on the list. So there's a list. There's a list. There's a list of every person who's a citizen that lives in that you, if you have, so if you have, if you live in any house in that district, you're on a list. So there's a video I saw where they were interviewing people in.

like some, I forget what, I think it was, it might have been in New York where they were going around into like an apartment complex that was filled with illegal immigrants. And they were asking them if they voted. And they were all saying, yeah, we voted. If they're on a list, if they live as a legal, um, if it's a legal address and they're somebody who lives in that house, they're probably on the list. Now, I don't know about how the work, I don't know how it works with their ID or whatever, however they got listed in that house. You had to have some level of citizenship. I'm assuming. So I don't know what that video was or whatnot,

but I do know that in New York State, if you live in a certain district, your name is on a list. You can't vote in that district. You can't go to another district and vote. Right. And that blew me away last time. I go, I'm just thinking to myself,

they're not even going to ID me. This is crazy. That is fucking insane. I got a guy who I could introduce you to. He's got a great podcast. You should do his podcast. Or he should do your way. Nah, he'd probably be better on his.

He's got a, his name's Matt Cox. I've heard of him. You know him? He comes on here sometimes. He came out. He literally got out of the halfway house, right? Hit me up. He emailed me.

He's like, hey man, I want to do a documentary. I'm like, just do my podcasts. And he comes on and does the podcast and fucking gets like millions of views in a week. Really? Yeah, dude. He was doing mortgage fraud when he was in like the 90s. He was like doing fake mortgages and shit, like refinancing houses under other people's names, creating fake identities and shit, made a few million dollars.

He basically scammed banks. and he did like, damn, he got sentenced to 26 years in prison. How much time did he do? I think he did 12. No, he did like, Bam.

Yeah, maybe 12. Federal time? Federal. He's lucky. I bet you he knows this. Federal prison is way better than state prison. Oh, yeah.

Federal prison, they treat you like a real human being. You're like, it's like not even, it's obviously not like being free. Right. But it's 10, maybe 50 times better

than being in state prison. Oh, yeah. Plus he's like five foot two. Yeah. And he was a pretty frail guy back in the day. Yeah, and the feds isn't like the state where everyone's ganged up. Right, exactly. It's probably still going on.

Plus, he was in a medium. Erdo, he was in a low, I think. He was in a medium for a little bit, then he was in a low. He was hanging out playing sports. He was hanging out with white-collar criminals. You know what I mean? They're probably playing sports all day, watching movies, gambling, all the type of eating good food, cooking. Yep.

And the reason I noticed I went to state, you know, we already talked about this time. I went upstate. And all the people upstate were like, I wish I was. and feds, it'll be so much better than this. They all talk, I don't know how they know about it, but like, you know, prisoners, you know how they are. But state prison sucks. Yeah. It's not fun.

Way more fucking bullshit going down. Way more gang. More gang stuff. Yep. Yeah. Or people at the end of their sentences. So I did have people who, I'm, that. who murder people, but they were like 23 years into the 25-year sentence.

So they're not, they're not, they're doing good. Right. They're not trying to behave. Yeah, they're trying to behave. Yeah, they're trying to behave. They're older, older guys, you know. But yeah, that's what I was in when I was in, um, um, Orleans state in New York. My buddy Matt was doing everything he could to get a sentence cut.

He, he even went so far to where like there was this old dude who committed a Ponzi scheme, ran some big Ponzi scheme. And he, this old guy had no friends in the prison. So he'd like started talking to Matt, right? and they were like just hanging out he befriended the guy who was being nice to him one day they were just walking around the yard

just walking laps or whatever and you know the guy was like getting kind of emotional telling his story about how he lost his wife and all this stuff and damn the story of the whole thing was like him and his wife got separated and when he went to prison

the FBI was trying to like find where he hid they thought he had more money right so they were trying to get more money from him and he was like they thought he cleaned him out because he got a divorce his wife took an X amount money. And he told Matt, he goes, he told Matt, he's like, can I tell you secret? He's like, can I trust you? And Matt, response, he was, of course you can trust me. And he goes, that was the biggest mistake he ever made was saying, was just trusting me. But eventually he told Matt,

he goes, I got like five million stashed that FBI doesn't know about. A day later, Matt goes to the fucking the front office of the prison. It's like, hey, I got some information. I want to talk to this guy to, I want to talk to this guy's whatever, prosecutor or whatever, I want a deal. He's like, I can find you $5 million if you guys cut six years off my sentence. Is that how he got out? He got out early. That was one of the ways he got out early.

He literally made a deal like where they... Surprise, he's telling people that. They'll try to fuck you by getting you to spill the beans and then never give you a deep net. Like, they'll fuck you over on the deal. So he made... That guy had lost $5 million. So here's the catch, though.

I feel bad. Here's the catch. Why would you tell somebody? Here's the catch. Matt ended up getting, I think, four years off his sentence. The guy got like a week added to a sentence at the end of it, at the end of it all. But he lost $5 million. That's your, that was going to sleep good every night.

He's going to be in prison until he's like 99. Oh. So he's never going to see it anyways. So he was just hoping to get out and then, you know, maybe I'm 99 and I got $5 million. He was trying to give it to his wife or something. I don't know. Why did you just give it to her? I don't know.

Idiot. All right. Ex-wife. That's funny. But yeah, he's not ashamed. I'm sitting here thinking, why did you do that? He's not ashamed of snitching on people. He goes, that's who I was.

That's how I was a sociopath. He's a self-admitted sociopath. That's how that one dude is. But he's a great guy now. I can't remember his name. Oh, I can't remember his name. Shit. This is black dude.

And he is just known for being a snitch and does not care. Really? Yeah, I can't remember his name. I can't remember his name right now. I want to look it up because I just want to know because he's He's very famous right now. Really? Yeah.

He's known for snitching. And he's like trying to make snitching cool again. That's what he's trying to do. Hold on. Let me look it up. Hey, man. I appreciate a snitch who had missed him being a snitch. Right.

Versus a snitch who just lies about it. Yeah, that's true. Because most people are snitches, bro. Charleston White. Look in the mob. People, you're fucking in the mob. I've had mob people on here in the past. And they talk about, you know, the number one rule of being in the mob is you never be a rat.

Right? You never rat on anybody. That's how you get killed. All these guys who get fucking put in prison under these Rico acts, they're all, they're ratting on everyone, bro. Everybody. That's how they're getting out. That's how they're getting out. Well, Charleston White is, he gained fame and notoriety for going on podcast and telling his story about how he's a snitch and how he ratted people out. He got murderers off the streets, this, that, and the third. He said, I don't care. I'm a snitch. And I know it. And I'll give a fuck. Come get, come see me.

That's how he talks. What's it? Charleston White. Pull him up. You should get him on. You should get him on. Yeah. He's an interesting guy.

My friend who's in Miami, the one of the five people I know down here. The Danza Project, shout out to the Danza Project show. Charleston White. Look at this guy. That's him. That's him. He's friends with my friend that I grew up with. The Danza Project.

That's the name of his channel. We got to get him on Matt Cox's podcast. Matt Cox. Yeah, they got to talk. They got to talk. You got to get him on Matt Cox, bro. He gets millions of views on my friend's podcast. My friend blew up.

up because of having him on. He was not, he had a little way not, he didn't have nothing going on. Oh yeah, we're going to get him on Matt Cox. Yeah, he'd be great. He might have already been on there. He blew up because of his, because of being a snitch. Comedy Club. What?

Ricktown, baby. He don't care. He's not. He's a comedian. If you look up, he must, he's got to have a Wikipedia page, right? He might have a Wikipedia. He's that big, I think. Oh, wow.

I think he's that big. No? Uh, well, let's see. No. Facebook. Okay. X? No, no Wikipedia, baby.

Yeah. Who is Charleston White? There it is right there. Nah. That's not a real Wikipedia. What the heck is that fish tank live? I don't know. Go back to the one before that where it says who is Charleston White?

Right there. I bet you it talks about his snitching right here. Gang reformed. Teenage gang layer to inspiring online activists. Remindling himself serving jail time. Inspiring online activists serving jail time for his juvenile transgressions. Controversial remarks. Yeah.

All right. He's in Miami, huh? Yeah, yeah. What do you think about Miami? You like Miami? I don't think I've ever been to Miami. Oh, you haven't been? No, did I?

Because I came to Florida when I was young, but I don't know. No, we went to Orlando. Orlando's all right. Yeah. I haven't been to Miami yet. The best thing about Orlando's is close to the East Coast. So you're like a 30-minute drive from Daytona Beach, depending on what part of Orlando.

There's so many cities in Florida. Yeah. I didn't even, I wasn't even thinking about that until I was here this week. I was like, you got, okay, you got Tampa Bay. Miami, Jacksonville, Orlando, Miami. Daytona Beach, right? Daytona, yeah. Sarasota, St. Pete.

These are all big cities, like, bigger than Buffalo. Tallahassee. And these are all bigger than Buffalo. Buffalo's, I know. Is it really? Yeah, Buffalo's so small. Maybe some of them are like the same size as Buffalo. But these are all real cities, like big cities.

And I'm like, it's just like weird that so many cities are just in one state. one little state. One little leaner hanging off of the state. It's basically. Well, it's the oldest state. It's the oldest. It's where the Spaniards.

It's where the Spaniards landed, bro. We got the oldest city in America here. St. Augustine. Yeah. They named Florida after the city in Sicily, called Florida. There's a city. Really?

The city in Sicily called Florida. It's actually the name of one of the classic texts from Appalais, Florida. No shit. Florida Cisley. Boom, see it. What year, can you find out what year the Spanish land

discovered Florida? What year did they land in St. Augustine? 1492, I think. Is it 1492? Yeah, wasn't it Columbus? Oh, that might have been the, okay. Paul St. Leon.

The first governor of Puerto Rico is credited with discovering Florida in 1513 on Easter Sunday. Yeah, because in 1492 they discovered the islands first. They didn't go to the first. Yeah, so that makes sense. 15.

That's right. That's only 20 years later. Yeah, that's, yeah, 20 years. Yeah, about 20 years. No shit, bro. That brings me to what I wanted to discuss. You got to go to, you got to check out St. Augustine while you're here. Yeah, I do.

When you'll move here, you'll go there. Yeah. St. Augustine's great. You know, the founding of the new world was so critical because 40 years before that was the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire in 1453, the most of the most of the most of the Ottoman Turks take down the walls of Constantinople, and it's the bit, they call it the Byzantine Empire, but they call themselves the Romans, because the rest of the Roman Empire, everyone says, fell in 476.

But there were still Romans in the East, and they stayed there until 1453. AD. A.D. 1453. You didn't know this? Yeah, because everyone calls them the Byzantines. It's kind of funny, because nobody wants to, nobody wants to consider them to be Romans. and it's a very western-centric thing. They called themselves Rome. Constantinople was Rome.

Wow. By the way, to show you how even more Roman it actually is, when Mehmed II conquered the Ottoman Sultan, conquered the city, and Constantine the 11th was missing, probably dead, gone, never had found again. He took his throne, sent delegates out to the Pope and says,

I am the new Caesar and you better recognize me as Caesar. You wanted to continue the Roman Empire under the Turks. And the Pope's like, hell no, you're Muslim. If you're not a Christian, you can't, he's like, I think he even said, if you convert to Christianity, maybe. But no. And they're like, all right, fine. So he never, so that's the end of Rome. But this brings us to like what we're going to get into because this is a perfect setup for what we're going to get into.

but Rome didn't really die at that point either because you still had in the West the continuation of what they call the Holy Roman Empire So there's a famous quote Who is the quote was it by Voltaire The Voltaire famously says The Holy Roman Empire

It's not holy It's not Roman and it's not an empire So he's talking shit but there are historians that say Voltaire was not correct it kind of was well in the sense of holy it was Christian

it was a Catholic empire also at some points they would become a Lutheran Empire depending on who the emperor was it could be a Lutheran Empire it could be a Catholic empire and then it was even Calvin emperors

Calvinism but there were always in they were always in consort with Italy there were always you know there was always the Holy Roman Empire and the Pope hand in hand trying to take shit over. That was the world order of the time period.

The Franks started the Holy Roman Empire with Charlemann. And it was at the time when the Eastern Roman Empire split from the Western Roman Empire because of the schism of the Orthodox and Catholic Church. So the Orthodoxes are the Greek East. The Roman Catholics are the Latin West. and the last emperor of the last emperor that the pope recognized died and his and the crown fell to empress irene and he says no way am i let a woman be an emperor an empress he says i'd rather turn to the west and i'm going to go look at charlemann this is the ninth century so charlemagne gets anointed as the Holy Roman Emperor. And from that day forward, there was the Catholic West and the Orthodox East.

And that was the end of a unified Rome, as you will. And so the reason why I bring all that up is because you have this sort of Roman, holy Roman world order led by the church, led by kings and emperors. And they're sort of like warring with each other. Spain goes the war with France. France goes the war with Germany. England goes the war with France. And they're all fighting each other. But they're all sort of in this sort of Christiandom world.

They're all sort of living in what we call the West. Well, by the time the 18th century rolls around, you get people like Thomas Payne, who's writing books called Age of Reason, influencing people's minds. Even in Germany, you have the book. Bavarian Illuminati started by a guy named Adam Weishaupt, who was a free-thinking liberal who preached, who hated Christianity, who was like Thomas Payne, where he put reason in the forefront, called himself an enlightened thinker, enlightenment, illuminated one. That's what the term comes from.

Right. English under the crown of England. And they're not, they didn't get independence yet, but they want it. And there's a lot of Freemasons living there. George Washington was a Freemason. So it's like you had these little secret societies of people with their, and they're getting together in their underground, Freemasons in America, free masons in England, free masons in France, and they're all sort of, you know, sending letters to each other.

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They do not have a requirement for believing in God. It's not, so it's a spiritual, it is spiritual. They do like to allegorize history and do a lot of comparative religion stuff, symbolism, that type of stuff. All the freemases have had in this podcast have like the craziest most wild conspiracy theories. Yeah. I love it. I love it too. Their only requirement is that, um, what's the only requirement?

Shit, I can't. They believe that like the world population should be under 500,000. I don't think that's true. No? No. I don't think that's true. That's one of those standing stones thing you found. The Georgia Guidestones.

Georgia Guidestones. That's only for after. That guy to set that up for. after an apocalypse or something like that. I don't know what that is. But I don't know if you can connect that to the Freemasons. Type in Freemasons' world population belief. See what they come up with.

Anyways, keep going. And so what you have in, you have is sort of this breaking off of society and Freemasons, very much like the Mithraic mysteries. Mithraic mysteries, like the Freemasons, there was different levels of degrees. Freemasons have 33 degrees. but the mythraic mystery Are the degrees like levels How and how enlightened you can be

How highly initiated you are Right so it's like Scientology Yeah But um Is there anything here about population? Yeah you can be a Freemason You could be a Muslim You could be Christian

You could be a polytheistic You could be a Greek They don't They do not put dogma Or they don't They don't put a particular dogma At their forefront So they came from stone mason

Right? Stone masons. English stow masons or Scottish stow masons actually. Right. But it's in the 14th century. They start. Okay. So in the 1300s, that's when the Freemasonrys begins.

So the population shit's fake news. Yeah, it's fake news. Okay. But it's a fraternity. It's a fraternity of brothers who are getting together and sort of, you know, making sure that everyone's needs are. There it is. New World Order. This is way different.

The New World Order is not Freemasons. Yeah. But I'm going to explain to you. you, and I'm going to lead this up to the idea that it might not be the Freemasons Illuminati people that are the bad guys. So I'm taking a hot take here because I know a lot of your audience might think the opposite of that. During the second Red Scare, both secular and Christian right American agitators, largely included, largely influenced by the work of Canadian conspiracy theorist William Guy Carr, increasingly embraced and spread dubious fears of Freemasons, Illuminati and Jews. Notice how it's Christians that are pushing that. Yeah.

So the Christians and the Catholics do not like Freemasons and Illuminati. The Catholic Church outlawed Freemasonry. The German, the Holy Roman Empire outlawed Freemasonry as well. The only place that didn't outlaw Freemasonry was in England. Godless communism. Godless communism, yeah. Which is funny because Freemasons are not communists. They're the exact opposite.

Yes. They want freedom of speech. They want constitutional republics. They want freedom to choose your God. It's completely opposite of communism. Communism and Freemasonry are just polar opposites. Right. That needs to be said.

But England did not, the King of England never actually formally outlawed Freemasonry. But the bishops of the Church of England were heavily opposed to it. And they wrote tons of dissertations against Freemasonry as evil. So that needs to be said. And America was basically the place where the Freemasons can get and go and live, you know, without any troubles. And then there's France. So before I continue to get into how these people took over and created a new world order, I want to skip ahead because this is important. When Germany, when Germany invaded France and they went into Paris, they went into their judicial building, they found all types of mythraic, I cannot.

and Freemason stuff. And they broadcasted. I gave you a video. Remember the video that was on from that documentary? Can we play that real quick? I emailed it to you, Steve. Do you play that real quick? Yeah, we can play it.

Yeah, let me. What year did Germany invade France? 1940, I think it was. 1940. I think it was 1940. It was in the beginning of the World War II. Right, okay, yeah. Full screen that bitch.

I got it. International Freemasons while hiding behind a Mexican. symbolic and albanem prong. Ready for this? Investors who fund. That's Mithras right there. It's a statue of Mithras.

Okay. So that was broadcasted on German television in the 1940s, basically going, look, the saviors of Germany went into this evil, free Masonic, Illuminati world order And look at all these idols of Mithras says everywhere So let's see the Freemason symbols on the top The skull and bones all that stuff

This is real that's a real place in France So they're not lying about going into their Judicial building And finding all these iconography But when I'm more interested in is So that stuff That really was in France That's Mithras

That's really there in France In Paris Who's Mithras Um, Mithras is the mediator god. His name actually means like contract. He's a mediator god. That's why the contract, constitution, to have a constitution of republic is basically being ruled by Mithras. Now, we, I was going to wait to get into the Statue of Liberty thing.

But I, we can go back to the, uh, but since we're on this topic of Mithrism, remember you were asking me, you're like, people are saying that statue of liberty is Mithras. Yeah. So it's kind of no, but kind of yes. So I looked into this. So the Statue of Liberty was built in 1886. And if you could pull up the Statue of Liberty. Let's look at that first. Georgiani is the one who told you about this on a podcast, right?

Yeah, actually he did. There we go back to that one. Statue of Liberty is based off the goddess Libertas. That's the goddess on the left. That's a Roman goddess Libertas. From what year? From what year is Libertas? Yeah.

She was around during the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire. Okay. So from 500 BC till 500 AD, something like that. Okay. Like she's around forever. She's libertas. So, but that's Statue of Liberty on the right. Yeah.

But then there's the question of why does she have seven rays, right? And it's actually more complicated than that. And I think there's more than just Libertas. being displayed here. Was there another statue with seven rays? The designer of, was named Frederick Augusta Bartoldi. That's the guy who designed.

He was a Freemason. He was a Freemason. This was built in 1886. So he's a Freemason. So he's going to be into Sybilism. Now, there is a god, the god of Mithraism,

the last pagan religion of Rome, before the Romans, the Western Romans fell, before Christianity took over. So even before that, before the fourth century, during the reign of Diocletian and then even after that

when the reign of Julie in the Apostate they've referred to the head god the main god as the seven rays god seven rays is the god solenictus mithras so sometimes mithras

is depicted by himself with his brother with like a twin brother soul invictus sometimes they're separate but often more often than not it's sol invictus mithras as one god with seven rays on his head

if you can pull that up. So that's, that's, that's, that's painting by the same guy. He painted this before he erected the statue. Okay. So this is his own, this is the same guy, Frederick Augusta Bertoldi. Notice how he's emphasizing the seven rays of the sun. Right. So there's a solar aspect here.

No doubt about that. Keep going. That's not it. Oh, it was the one where he was a little idol with, look up, just look up myth, um, Sol Invictus seven rays. All right. So as you can see, There's a perfect example, the one in the middle right there.

That's Sol Invictus with seven rays. And like I said, Sol Invictus and Mithras were merged together at the end. At the end of the Roman Empire. You often find inscriptions where it says Sol Invictus Mithras. So there's Mithras with the seven rays. And then the one that we've, so the go to back to the emails where you find the seven, layer, the seven, I'm sorry, the seven initiation layers. This is the, and this is the last thing I want to, and then we'll get back to what we're discussing.

One of the images in the email. Yeah, this is important. Okay. So, just like the, in, Freemasonry is drawing heavily from the mythraic mysteries, heavily. The initiation cult, the cult of brotherhood, fraternity, Mithras, the Phrygian cap, the Phrygian cap on the top left. And Mithras means contract? Contract. So the Phrygian cap on the top left, you'll see this with the goddess Minerva, who's the goddess of Liberty.

And her paintings are all over the pace. Lady Liberty, Frigian cap. And then so notice beneath her, beneath the Phrygian cap on the top left, there's the seven rays crown and what is that? A torch. A torch and a whip. And a whip. Maybe that's Ammon's whip. Yeah.

So notice how the. crown has seven rays. Yeah. And it's a torch. That's the, that's Libertas. And the, so what's called Heliodramus, the sunrunner. That's what they call it. And it's a, it's a

symbol of liberty and the sun. So the, so is a statue of liberty mythraic? Yes. I do believe so. Is it also the goddess libertos? Yes. I think you have both. I don't think it's black and white. Um, the last thing I want to show you on this is look up

the Phrygian cap Liberty. click on the fridge yeah click on that whether it says p yeah now go to images nope oh sorry why did I do that yeah remember we saw that fridgian cap right yeah look that's the symbol of liberty keep going down just skim through

all these paintings of liberty of there it is right there that's the French Revolution okay and they're wearing fridgian caps yeah so that's a that's a myth rea hat so so okay when I'm leaning up to get what I'm getting at here is you have these secret societies of of freemasons in

England in in America in France and in Germany and they're they're drawing from these old Roman Republic mythraic sort of drawing from a different a soup of different ideas and this guy this guy looks high as hell that's French right there so the French Revolution is definitely inspired by this and as we saw in the 20th century, even in the, even in all the in the 20th century, when the Germans are invading France and they break in, all their old symbolism is all mythraic and phrygian caps. So there's this pushback between Americans, American free Masonic. George Washington was a Freemason, right? George Washington is a, there's this myth made up about him that he kneeled down and prayed to Jesus. That never happened.

That's made up. It's not any of the primary sources. The first time it's talked about is in like the 20th century. So it didn't happen. This is the craziest shit. You have an English secret society with Freemasons that are heavily connected to the founding fathers. And they're called the Anachryontic Society. And this is going to be big.

Because we're talking about the Star-Spangled Banner here. Look up the Anachryontic Society. society. And I gave you that one picture of them, but it's going to be on their Wikipedia anyway. A.N.A. Anachryontic society. It'll fix you. Yeah. There you go. All right, go to the Wikipedia page. So this is a gentleman's club that started in London, and it's based on the Greek poet Anacreon, who lived on the island of Teos in the 6th century BCE. And their whole purpose was freedom, liberty, justice, drinking, and they dedicated their God that they worship was Dionysus. So they had a song.

Now, a bunch of their members were, well, for example, some of their members were loyal to the Crown of England. Big example, Samuel Johnson was a famous Tory. He met with them. He was part of their group. but there was also Freemasons that were in there like James Boswell

James Boswell wasn't just any Freemason he was the Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of all Freemasonry and this was during the year 1776 so you know he's

buddy you know he's affiliated with George Washington Yes during the year 177 he's the grand Lodge master of all Freemasonry and he's a part of this club So the Inocryotic Society, they exist, from the 1770s all the way into the 1800s, I think right around 1810, they disband. And their whole purpose is to go back to the Greek way of life, the democratic, republic way of life. Forget about the church, forget about the Catholic Church, forget about the Church of England, forget about the Lutherans and all this crap, all this nonsense.

We want the ways that the Greeks gave us. and that they even argued that, and this is another thing that Thomas Jefferson says in his letters, that common law, as we know it, has nothing to do with Christianity. It has to do with the ideals that were laid down by Greco-Roman republics. Everything that we love and about the West comes from them. Our architecture, our music, our theater, our comedy, our poetry.

We have to think, we have to go back before the church to get to that stuff, the roots of our culture comes from that. Now we have to play the anachryontic song, the one I was telling you about, because this is going to blow your mind. Okay, how do we find it? Go down, there it is. Okay, click on the anachryontic song right there. The link. Yeah, and you're going to play it.

But I want to play the one that I gave you because it sounds way better than this. Okay. I said it. Actually, let's just play it. Just play the one here. This is how it goes. In 1778. Written in 1773.

What was going on back then? What is this song remind you of? Oh, say, can you see? What if I told you those are not the lyrics? Those are not the lyrics. All right. Now play the video. Play the video that I gave you.

I don't think you gave it to him, though, because I saw it in that list. It wasn't there. It wasn't there. How do we find it on YouTube? So I will send you the link right now. And then you can send it to him exactly. Okay, perfect.

All right. All right, before you play it, let me just say some real quick. Yep. This is the original lyrics of the star-spangled bannard that we all know today in love. Yes, okay. This was written in 1773, and it was published in 1778, and it was one of the biggest songs that the revolutionary Americans were listening to. Let's play it. To a nap, yon in heaven.

Where he sat in full glee A few sons of harmony sent A petition That he there inspire and patron would be When this answer all right From the jolly old question Voice fiddle No longer

I'll end you my name And inspire you to boot And besides I'll instruct you like me to entwine The murder of Venus with Bacchus is fine No Jesus

But Bacchus is there You like me to entwine The murder of Venus with Bacus is mine All right pause Explain who Bacchus was Dionysus. Dionysus. That's the other

Bacchus, Dionysus are the same god. It's not like, it's not like I'm saying they're equated with it. That's two names for Dionysus. And who is Dionysus? Dionysus is the god of wine, life, party, vitro culture, swelling of fruits, freedom.

In Rome, he's called Liberpater. It's where we get the word liberal from. He's the god of liberalism. He's the God of freedom. He's the liberal God. That's why at the Olympics, that was Dionysus, not Jesus. and blue. You saw that?

The guy in blue was supposed to be Dionysus. Right. Jesus was the fat lady. There's a guy, gas. Type in, just look up a picture of the opening ceremonies. We can see who's who. It's supposed to be a re-incarnation or a reproduction of the Last Supper, right? I don't think so. I think it's a painting about Dionysus. No, no, no, I'm talking about the recent Olympic opening ceremony.

Yeah, I don't think it's supposed to be that. People thought it was. And then type in Dionysus after it. Right there. Okay. Yeah, right there. There you go. Right there. Yes. Now, I get why people think that there's some... The blue guy's supposed to be Dionysus. Yeah.

So if you look at this... Look at that. Look at now the woman in the middle, right, with the crown. How many... Here, this is it. Look, she's got seven rays on the crown, bro. Yeah, I know. I know. I was going to bring that up. But you caught it first.

Nice. Good job. Good job. You caught it first. Is she supposed to be Jesus? So you see where I'm going now. Is she supposed to be Jesus there? No. She's not. Look it. I'm going to prove it right now to all the idiots out there that things. The guy who made this literally said this was supposed to be the Lost Supper, no? You got too many right-wingers in your ear, bro.

I do. Look at this. Look at this. I agree with that. Here's the painting right here. Can I send this to him? Yes. I'm just joking, dude.

I do too. We all do. I listen to both sides of the political spot. Here we go. Here's the painting of Dionysus on the ground. And this came out. This was before the last supper. The last supper was inspired by this.

Okay, Steve, I'm emailing this to you. Okay. So let me look up the dates real quick. doing that so we can get the dates right uh Dutch painting Leonardo da Vinci's Last Supper was in 1945 in 1950 okay no it's actually true that the last supper did come up before this so this feast of the gods might have been inspired by Leonardo da Vinci's last supper but he's it's not Jesus that's Apollo and by the way Apollo oh look at see the sun rays yeah yeah yeah yeah there's Dionysus on the ground right right

Right, right. This is supposed to be like Olympians. That's the Olympians. It's for the Olympics. Okay. So that lady is not supposed to be Jesus. She was supposed to be Apollo. All these Christian right-winger are losing their minds over nothing.

This was a perfect Olympic ceremony. Those are the Olympian gods. There's Dionysus on the ground. There's Apollo in the middle. Now, guess what? So what is the name of this painting? It's called the Feast of the Gods. The Feast of the Gods.

Someone told me this was earlier than the last. supper, but it's not true. This is after the last supper. Yeah, let's read about the Feast of the Gods. What's the Feast of the Gods? It's a Renaissance painting, baby. Okay, there we go. The Feast of the Gods... Oh, that's another one. That's a different one. An oil painting by Bellini. Yeah, that's a different

one. That is a different one. It's by Jan Van Bilsert. Okay. Just probably tipping Jan Van Biltzert. There it is. Top one. There it is. Okay. Okay, there we go. Okay. Pending by a Dutch painter, Jan van Van Biltierk created around 16th century. 1635 to 16. in the Muzéa magnin

in Dijon France. This is perfect lines up with the French liberal ideology. Right? 17th century is a little earlier. Go up, down, down, down, history. I want to read history. The painting represents popular

mythological subjects and the Feast of the Gods has been the property of the French Republic since, okay. Go up a little bit. It explains it. Go up. Oh, look at this. Go up, go up. The painting came.

Right there. It explains it. Number of the picture. In one of the number of pictures in Western art to depict the Feast of the Gods, in this case, at the marriage of Theta and Pellius.

Pellius. With Bacchus in the foreground. So it's Bacchus dancing. Bacchus. Just like from the song. Go down. Go down. Where it says in Olympics.

The painting came to public attention following. Okay. Controversy of the summer. Got it. That's what it's supposed to be. Yeah. It's the same painting. Now, okay.

What does this have to do with Da Vinci, though? Da Vinci painted the last supper. Right. So people are conflating this with DaVich. People are saying that that's the last supper. It's not. It's actually this one. Oh.

So it was kind of a bit. It was kind of like an overreaction. without really checking into it. Right, right, right, right. Now, I do want to show, I want to say something about Apollo in the middle. Notice how Apollo has, Apollo. Yeah, punch it on Apollo with the ground. Can you zoom in?

Yeah, can you zoom in on Apollo? There's Bacchus down there and go up. Apollo's at the table. Powell's got the sun rays. Yes. Now, he doesn't have seven rays, right? He doesn't have seven. This person whispering in Apollo's ear.

Is he got a hookah? Is that a liar? A liar? Yeah. Oh, no, he's, Apollo's holding a harp. Oh, it's a harp. And the other guy has got something, he's like maybe smashing something into a cup or something. Type in, okay, so I want to connect Apollo to Mithras.

I'm going to do some comparative mythology here. Because remember we saw Mithras with the seven rays, right? Type in Apollo Mithras. That's an old, right there, naked Apollo Mithras, that's the one. That one, this statue right here actually has inscribed in it. Now there's more than seven rays, I get it. But it's a solar halo on a god who's called, it's inscribed on there. I think it's on the back of it.

Mithras Apollo, dash. So they're equating them the same God. So there is a connection there with that painting with Mithras. It is kind of a jump. I'm doing like the meme where the guy's connecting the dots right now. You know the guy from that's Sunday Sunday. That's always sunny. That's always sunny in Philadelphia.

You know that meme where he's connecting the dots? I'm kind of doing that right now. But just to show you that, Mithras and Apollo are both solar deities with solar rays. You know what I mean? Yeah. And so that painting, just like with the statue of liberty, holding the torch with the sound of rays, it represents liberty. Dionysus and Apollo are these two gods, as Nietzsche points out, they're sort of like a contrast of each other.

But they both are like, and if you want to finish that song up because Apollo comes in that song too. Let's go back to the song. Apollo comes in that song too. no no no no no no you closed it god damn it boom yeah go like halfway through

a little bit before that though a little before that though right there yes perfect the murder of venous with poplaces mine the sons of anachryon

then join hand in hand Reserve unanimity, friendship and love Disnors to support what so happily planned You've the sanction of God's at the fiat of Joe Joe That's the name for Jupiter Our toast let it be

May our club flourish Happy United May our club flourish and long may the sons of anachryan entwine All right Venus Venus is lus And long may the sons of anacriot in twine The murder of Venus

Venus is Lucifer Venus is called Lucifer in Latin Okay. So you have, and Bacchus is also called the Phosphorus Lightbringer. That is a Luciferian ode right there. So it's actually arguably that there are this Illuminati New World Order of liberalism, the American Revolution, the French Revolution. So that fat lady is the devil.

It's Luciferian. I love this. But as we talked about in the last episode, who are the bad guys? Is it Luciferians? Or is it the church? Right. Depends on how you see it. Right.

Right. So they do have a point. Christians do have a point when they say that Illuminati New World Order Freemasonry is Luciferian. You're right. It is Luciferian. Because it's enlightened ones. Illuminati. It's Lucifer.

The Enlightenment is Luciferian. Okay. So the American Revolution, this brings me to the Star-Spangled Banner. How do we get from that to the Star-Spangled Banner? Right. How did we get to that? In 1815, so 40 plus 50 years later, Francis Key Scott is in, I forgot what city he's in,

but he's watching the Americans getting destroyed by the English, by the British Royal Navy. There it is. Francis Key Scott witnessed the bombardment of Fort McHenry by the British Royal Navy during the Battle of Baltimore. So somewhere along this, this adventure he's in, they're all listening to this song and drinking.

They're all listening to the Nocriotic song. That's how you know there's a bunch of Freemasons around. How do they even know this song exist? How do they even know this song? And they're playing this song and they're listening to it and they're all drinking, they're all trying to keep their spirits up. Right.

And Francis Keith Scott writes new lyrics to this song about this day, about the bombs bombardering. He changes the lyrics and he, but he keeps the song because he wants to keep that spirit. that Bacchic spirit while changing the song

and Americanizing it. So now you have the Star Spangled Bannard which is our national anthem with Bacic Diannesian Luciferian roots. Nothing to do with Christianity. It's the opposite. Wow.

Isn't that crazy? Our Star Spangled Banner that all these Christian nationalists love and they take their head off they put their hand on their heart and they sing it. They don't even reel it. lies. They're singing an ode to

Dionysus and Lucifer. That's funny as fuck. An ode to the fucking devil. It is. And he even says, with my fiddle and flute in the song, it's one of the lyrics. That's Pan. That's Pan. The devil. With the horns and the shaggy legs playing the flute. The imagery

of Pan shows up in that song. Yes, I'll definitely pull that up. Pan fiddle flute. That's the flute that he uses. Keep going. I think it was right there. Oh, where's Pan? Google's blocking it. Google socks.

Put God Pan. God Pan. God Pan with the fiddle and flute. Yeah. There he is. There's Pan. There he is. So that's part of the lyrics of the song.

The jolly old Greshin with his fiddle and flute. That's Pan, baby. That's the devil. So they're singing this song that we all love for our beloved country that's all about freedom and liberty and reason. That's the old Greek ways. That's the old Dianesean ways.

And then the Anachryantic society was a secret society that focused on like liberalism, freedom, freedom of expression. Dionysus and Aphrodite, sexuality, all that stuff. So is that pan on the left right there? It's pan on the left with the cloven feet. Yeah. And the fucking horns. He's teaching the kid how to play the, that's the devil. That's a Roman statue right there during the Roman Republic.

That's so fucking crazy, dude. It gets dark. In fact, anachryon, the... Well, it's only dark because the church made it dark. Exactly. Right? Exactly. Because church morality sort of changed the way people see the world.

But that's what these people are trying to go back to. They're trying to go back to freedom. Trying to go back to liberty. The word liberty comes from Liber. Liber Potter is Dionysus. That says name in Latin. Just want on just to show people what I mean by that type in Liber Potter. Watch what it comes up.

Liber potter. There is. Liber. Liber. Look at this. Ancient Roman religion and mythology, Liber, the free one, also known as Labor Potter,

the free father, was a god of viticulture and wine, male fertility and freedom. He was the patron of deities, the patron deity of Rome's plebeian and was part of their eventide triad. This festival of Liberalia, Liberia, became associated with free speech

and the rights attached to the coming age. His cult had in functioned. and functions were increasingly associated with romanized forms of Greek Dionysus Bacchus, whose mythology came to share. That's our God that we worship in America. That's the God. That's the God of the New World Order, which is French Revolution, American Revolution, the end of the, so the Bavarian Illuminati, people kind of downplay their, they're always

about the French Revolution, the American Revolution, and then like Bavarian Illuminati kind of failed. No, they didn't. The Holy Roman Empire was disbanded in 1806. So whatever they were doing over there, whatever treatises they were writing, books they were writing, literature they were putting out was changing people's minds to the fact that the Holy Roman Empire falls in 1806. The church the England's control over the New World falls in 1776. The French Revolution, when was the end of the French Revolution? I don't know that. But it's It's right around the same time. You have these big revolutions happening.

Good question. Yeah, look that up. French Revolution. 1848. Right. So within a 50-year span, you have these major revolutions happening. And as a result, the old Holy Roman Order, church Vatican control done. And now we have a common law, which is called Napoleonic law.

Napoleon puts his name on it. And I'm going to show you the. end the stamp when we knew it was finally over when the liberals win and the uh the roman you know the holy roman church loses i gave you an image and i saw it this one is actually in the email okay and this just tells you everything you need to know about what happened with the finder steve yeah napoleon who's allied with the united states he's allied with the freemasons right i think it's the last one on the bottom. Yes. Can you make that as big as possible for us? Fucking. Right there, Steve. He's new to Mac. He doesn't understand it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nero and Caligula, this is a coat of arms of Napoleon. So you have, um, by the way, I've heard people say that the, the two-headed Janus is Napoleon and Tom Jefferson. Really? That's what I've heard people say. What is that fucking demon coming out of top? It actually looks like them. You know how Napoleon looks like? Look at the one on the right facing Europe. Yeah. That's Napoleon. The one on the left facing the New World, Thomas Jefferson.

So that's the New World Order, right? Now the Pope is down on the bottom on his hands and knees, basically holding up. And so there's images there. Those images are the battles they won. Those two cross and bones are as the fall of the Holy Roman Empire and the fall of England's control over the seas. So Oh no, I'm sorry, no The fall of the French

Kingdom That's not how to it They don't care about England here So you have the fall Of the Holy Roman Empire And the fall of the French kingdom And return from Napoleon Steve, blow it up

And why is the Pope On his hands and knees Because it defeated the Pope They defeated the church The end of the church Now why Caligula and Nero Why them? Right

Those are the two beasts from Revelation Nero is 666. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. They're who? The two beasts from Revelation are Caligula and Nero. Really? It's a, it's a middle finger to the Christians saying, we won, you lost. The beast won.

Now, I can prove this to you. What is the demon head coming out of the top of Jefferson's and Napoleon's head? I don't know what that is. Plunk in on that, on the very, very top. I don't know no idea what that is, to be honest. I have no idea. I don't even want to know. Because I don't want to.

It looks like something that might give me in trouble if I talk about. And Caligula is 666. No, Nero is the second beast in Revelation. If we go to Revelation, should we do it? Do you want to go to Revelation? Let's go to Revelation 666. Type that in. Verse, Revelation verse 666.

All right, click on NIV. I like the NIV. All right. You just go down. Oh, yeah. So, okay, the dragon stood on the shore and I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten hordes and seven heads. It's the seven hills of Rome

With ten crowns on its horns And each of the blasphemous name And I saw the beast Resemble the leopard But had feet like those of a bear The dragon gave this beast power And his great authority One of the heads of the beast

seemed to have fatal wound And the fatal wound Had been healed The whole world was filled with wonder And followed the beast People worshipped the dragon Because he had given it authority This is where it gets

Okay Here's how I know it's Caligula The first beast Okay We're not in the second beast Yeah Okay, okay, okay. It says on verse five, the beast was given the mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies

and to exercise its authority for 42 months. That's very specific. Guess what Killigli ruled for? 42 months. And guess what he did while he was emperor? He persecuted the shit out of the Jews, went over there and made them basically worship his image, forced them against their will. He was a horrible emperor to Jews.

Now, the second beast, go down. the beast out of the earth. Then I saw a second beast coming out of the earth. It had ten horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. Now go down to the last part of this verse. This calls out for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast for his number of a man. The number of six, six, six.

Now, type in Nero, Germatria. How do we know six, six? Image, go to in. Yeah. Pryorist theology typically support the temperature of the, 666. Now, just go to images. Forget about Preterist. I'm going to prove it to you right now. Look. Click on the first link.

Click on the first link. Punch in. All right. Every letter in Hebrew has a numerical value. Right. Right. We talked about this last time. If you add up Nero Kaiser in Hebrew and add it up at 666, it's him. Now guess what? Now you might say, maybe it's a coincidence.

In the Latin Bibles, the name Nero Kaiser is spelled differently. So when you equate that, it becomes 616. In the Latin Bibles, it actually says 616. So it's impossible for anyone else to fit that. It would be one out of a gazillion chance. And then for it to fit the narrative, seven heads and all that, it's Caligula and Nero. So go back to that coat of arms now.

So now we know what the hell they're trying to depict here. The Pope is dead on the ground. I don't know if he's dead or not. He's on his hands and knees. That's an unholy sight right there. Right. You've got the two beasts from Revelation, the two worst people. Caligula was the worst to the Jews.

Nero sack the Jerusalem Temple. These are the two worst emperors in history. They're the two beasts from Revelation. And then you have them bragging about everyone they defeated in the middle, all the winds. Look, see on the top where it says Joph, it's very blurry. But you're seeing on the top middle, it says, Jaffa, and it's Napoleon in his army blasting away a bunch of people at Jaffa because he won a battle there.

Napoleon is bragging that this world, and the last thing I got to show you guys this, you've got to see this. Look up the painting of Napoleon being anointed. This is the end of the church in control of the world. It's the new start of what the world we live in today, which is the world of constitutional republics. It's the world that you and I inhabit today. thanks to Napoleon and George Washington and the Freemasons.

This is what, all right. These are all amazing paintings, by the go to the first one, coronation of Napoleon. Let's take a look at that and zoom in on this baby. And this is so iconic. This is such a turning point in history. What you're seeing here. Wow. Can you zoom in?

There we go. That's what I want to see. Now look at that. Now look what's happening here. Where's Napoleon? He's holding the crown. Okay. was he putting the crown on himself okay he's he's crowning himself he's the new emperor and he even

calls himself the emperor but he ends the holy roman empire done there's no more holy roman empire now england already lost the new world and that's already a constitution of republic he sets up the same system that george that george washington sets up in europe becomes common law even today as we speak napoleonic codex is still the law of the land So he's the last great Caesar, Augustus, Alexander. He's the last of them. We're in his world right now. Nobody has come along undone when he's dead.

We are still doing. George Washington and Napoleon are the two. That's why they're the two heads. We live in their world right now. The world that they designed. I thought it was Napoleon Thomas Jefferson in that thing. Thomas Jefferson. Right, right, right.

But George Washington being the first president. I just said that. Yes, right, right. You're right. Thomas Jefferson is probably the most important. of all. So he crushed the church. Now, who are these people with the Pope hats on? That's all the bishops and cardinals.

Now, think about this. In the painting, it makes them all look like they're enjoying themselves, but they're not. They don't look like they're enjoying themselves. They just realize their world is over. It's the apocalypse. They do not want Napoleon. Let's check out a different one. These guys look sad.

Yeah, and that's probably what the painter was trying to do. Look at the Pope's face. He's like, fuck. He's like, I just lost. He's lucky that he's lucky Napoleon left him all with it. So this is the this is the fork in the road where we're being ruled by religion versus being ruled by law. Yes. Go up, go up, go up. The one right there on the right there with that one.

That's him being anointed. You know what anointed means, right? In Greek? Christ. I do know what it means to be Christed. He's Christing. He's being Christed. Napoleon is the Christ.

Zoom in on that a little bit more. Can you punch in a little bit more with your pad? No, I'm at the. Oh, you're at the limit. I can, yeah. That's a good, that's a good one. There we go. That's perfect.

That's Napoleon being Christed by the Pope. So what is in that little jar? That's holy oil. Is a snake venom? Might be. Might be. You never know. It's got a little cross on it, like poison cross.

That's Napoleon being, he's the last Christ that ever lived. Now, and there's one more conspiracy there about Napoleon. Type in Napoleon Apollo. Napoleon is Apollo. Type that in. Napoleon is Apollo. Yeah, they thought he was Apollo. It's all coming back full circle.

Go to images. I wonder if I can find this. There's a conspiracy theory. There's a conspiracy theory about Napoleon being Apollo. It's a three and one smoker. Oh, is that the painting right there of Napoleon? That's it. As a painting of Napoleon as Apollo.

There it is. There it is. I don't know why it says Granger on it. Thanks Granger.com for being a, They're making you buy the image. They put a watermark. Yeah. So that's a famous painting from what years that? 1853.

And there's Napoleon as Apollo with the crown, with the wreath on his head. They deified him. Wow. And there was even some people, there was even some people who said that his name, Na Apollo, no, Apollion. So they're saying they put an N in front of Apollo, you get Napoleon. That was like, it's like, it's not real. But people, people conspiracy.

see there's conspiracies around during this time period. People were saying he is, he was named Apollo all just with an end in front of it. Napalo, Leon. No shit. That's fucking wild. So yeah. So what we're seeing is between the American Revolution, and as we pointed out, you got Thomas Payne, who is who thinks that Jesus is an allegory of the sun. He's a mythicist.

He doesn't even believe the Bible's true at all. He thinks it's all made up. He's, he's, you know, he's, you know. Pain doesn't. Pain is completely dis as Christianity. Yes. He's the philosopher behind the whole American Revolution. And how was that perceived by the rest of the population?

Like, what do people think about that? I mean, he started... Thomas Payne was hated by the Christians. Hated. They burned his books in England. I mean, what did people like the other founding fathers think of him for that? They all roared about him as the greatest philosopher of their time period. Is it true that he, when he died, like, no one went to his funeral, like no one liked him anymore?

Because he was, because it was mostly Christian. that populated the world. That's why these founding fathers had to play the Christian game a little bit. They couldn't just totally dis Christian. Like Jefferson made his Jefferson Bible. Jesus was a great philosopher. You know, George Washington basically just kept his mouth shut

on the whole topic. Never praised Christianity. Didn't diss it either. Completely stayed neutral on it. It doesn't say shit about it. He says he's an Anglican, but he's an Anglican in the same way. I'm a Catholic.

I was born Catholic. I got Catholic. confirmed. My name's probably in some database somewhere, but I'm not really a Catholic. I'm not going to church. That's how he was. There's no evidence of him being proud to be an Anglican. He just was born into Anglican.

By the way, Anglican Church is the Church of England. So why the hell would he be an Anglican? It's just nonsense. Okay. But, so the point I'm getting at here is you have this the roots of American, the roots of the West, I would say,

is actually not Christianity, Judaism. It's actually Greco-Roman, Bacchic, Dionysian, Republican, democratic worldview. And those are the things that these people, from the French Revolution to the Revolution in Germany to get rid of the Holy Roman Empire, to the Revolution in America, all of them sort of seeking to go back to that way of life, but also updated a little bit too. and the idea that this is a Christian nation that we need to have Christian nationalism like Nick Fuentes is pushing is not historically accurate it's actually the opposite if anything

if anything it's the opposite I'm not saying it's definitely the opposite but if anything it's not the Christian way if anything it's the opposite right and the history proves it Napoleon was against the church he dissed the church he made the church he made the pope anoint him against his will

he conquered all Italy's lands he conquered Sardinia he conquered Sicily he conquered North Africa he conquered Israel the Americans you know basically

like we mentioned Thomas Payne Thomas Jefferson I got this last quote that I want to show you about the what's his name the last quote

this is like he just bluntly says this is from James Madison we haven't talked about him yet where he says that religion and government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together. The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from the shores the ceaseless strife

that has soaked the soil of Europe and blood for centuries. Like he's basically saying, Europe for the last 10 centuries, we need to end that. That's not the way we want to go forward, which is what we, which is, if you think about it, That's basically what's led to today. Civil rights movements, people wanting to be free. That's sort of the new God that we're under, which is Dionysus, if you think about it. Yeah. The freedom God.

Well, we've like invented, it's like in our world now, like everything is so good in America. Life is so easy here. We've like invented new religions. And people treat the Democratic Party and the Republican Party is their religion. Yeah. Or like woke religions. People, we've found new hills to Dion. not it's not religious anymore because we we've made a new religion essentially yeah new shit to fight over

yeah and even even on the top of um even on top of the dc building there's the minerva that's the roman godess of of law and order and justice there she is right there statue of freedom but that's minerva that's the old roman goddess minerva from the ancient romans with the helmet and the sword that's how she was always depicted and so we're under the world order that we're under right now is a world well i guess you know american and european world order is a liberty world and even even both sides of our political spectrum love liberty conservatives love liberty they love freedom of speech um so are liberals so like the new duels there is no more like you have creeping in now

this new sort of christian nationalist sort of creeping back in and trying to take over the right wing a little bit you see that You know what I'm talking about? But a lot of conservative, a lot of libertarians aren't buying that. I feel like the whole is, like even if you look at Trump, he's not a really religious guy. You know, he's never been religious. No. But, you know, he has to kind of blow that dog whistle a little bit because he's in that camp.

He wants the religious people. The religious people are for the most part supporting Trump, right? So he's got to throw him a bone every now and again. He's doing what he's playing the game like the founding fathers did. Right. Because, you know, he's like, these people are Christian, so I got to kind of play their game a little bit. Yes, exactly. And the Thomas Payne thing is super interesting.

Like, reading his book about the age of reason, like I told you, like, the quote out of that book that I love the most, where he was saying, it's only by the exercise of reason that man can come to discover God. And he's like, take away that reason, and he would be incapable of understanding anything. And it makes sense the way he elucidates it, where he's saying, like, someone cannot, like, you don't come from nothing. Everything comes from something. Any reasonable person can understand that one thing comes from something else. But, like, where did the first thing come from? Right. Like, where did the first man come from?

Reasonably, we can't fill in that blank. So we fill in the gaps with God. Right. God of the gaps. Because there's no one. We have to be able to understand the way the universe works some way. That's exactly what Thomas Payne was saying in an age of reason. He's laying out, he's like,

we've always believed that the gods were in control of the rain or they're in control of the tsunamis and the floods. Right. And then we figured out what was really happening. There's a science behind it. There's a cause and effect. And then we said, okay, well, God's behind other things, like the sun, or why is the earth

move, or why the stars moving? God's got to be that. Right. And it's moving into the gaps where you end up getting like wherever we, any mysteries we have, anything we can't figure out that's God. Right. Which I don't have a problem with that. Right. And people have a right to believe

in mysteries being divine. Totally. Totally. And then you know, the other great thing that he elucidates really well is that when you look at the Old Testament, he compares it to like anybody explaining, like in a court of law, for example. If I go into

a courtroom and I give testimony based on an anonymous source, saying I got something, I got this evidence from somebody who's anonymous that would never hold up in a court of law.

Not even in real life if I told you something that told you I heard something from somebody who's anonymous like you could believe me if you chose to but you have no reason to believe what I'm saying.

Now add a whole other layer onto it. Now I'm telling you not only is a source anonymous but the fucking son stood still or this person spoke face to face with God. Right. Now you're just making,

taking it to a point where it's completely ridiculous. Yeah. And that's what he says the Bible is comprised of. It's comprised of these stories who were composed, but we don't know who the authors were. And the explanations they're getting are from anonymous sources. Right. And they're ridiculous claims. Yep.

He points out that Matthew, Mark, and Luke and John, we don't even know if those are the real names. He's one of the people who put that together. Yeah. And he also points out that a lot of the stuff that we find in the Bible seems to also be drawing from other pagan myths. Yes. He points that out as well. And as you said, the sources for the claims, a big example is Paul. Paul's epistle, Corinthians is the big one.

In Corinthians, Paul says that Jesus returned to 500 people. And first he appeared to Kiface, then he appeared to James, then he appeared to 500 people. And Paul never was there. Paul doesn't even name who the 500 people were. Right. So it's not even a primary source. It's not even a secondary source. It's kind of a third-hand source. 500 people will say this, too. Christian apologists will say, we have 500 eyewitnesses that saw Jesus. Who are they? What are their names? What's their testimony?

No, you have one text that says they heard from a rumor. They heard a rumor that 500 people saw him. That's not 500 individual testimonies. That's one third-hand source. that was written down for the first time how many years after it allegedly happened probably a decade after a decade 10 years Paul wrote it within a decade Paul wrote it pretty early okay so Paul's letters I think it's like like 40 something 40 something yeah Paul wrote it about 10 years later yeah maybe 20 I don't know 10 that Paul you have to get that credit yeah Paul wrote his letter pretty early but you're telling me that 500 people saw a risen Jesus and they didn't write anything down and only Paul wrote it down. Nobody says anything. Nobody says, I saw a miracle today.

My name is this place. I live in this city. Boom, write that out there. Nobody else. It doesn't get to anyone. Only Paul is the only one that knows this. Sorry. And I think you pointed out on the first podcast that we did together,

that in the Old Testament, the writings, the books of Noah were written allegedly like 800 to 900 years after he died, the first writings of them. Even later than that. Even longer. Because Noah supposedly, if. Let's say Noah lived and we do the math. We would end up, so this is how we do the math. You can look in Luke's genealogy.

You can look in Matthew's genealogy. And you can do the math between all the sons and fathers. Yes. You go all the way back to Noah. Yes. You would end up plus or minus 50 years because some of them are like, we don't really know exactly when they died. We're just going to give them 10 to 20 years gap, right?

You can give or take some. You would end up around 20, 2,500 BCE for Noah. I think that's what it is. Yeah, 2000 BCE for Noah. Give or take some. But you can even go, just to give it, yeah, when did Noah live?

You can flip that up. That's a good idea. But like, Noah when? Yeah. So I was going to say, I'm in the middle. Like, give or take some.

We don't know exactly when. Right. But at the latest, it's going to be 3,000, at the shortest. And that's if we're doing all the math about who the fathers of Josiah, Hezekiah, all the people in Jesus, Jesus' genealogy, going back to Noah. Right.

You would end up somewhere between there. Okay? Mm-hmm. So, so, um... 3000. So the story of Noah, so let's go with the latest, or let's go with the earliest. Let's give them a bone. Let's go with 1998 BCE.

Let's say, let's say Noah died in 1998 BCE. Mm-hmm. Okay. So that means the story of Noah doesn't show up in literature until 300 B.C. the first The first time Noah is The first time Noah shows up And anyone's sources

It's 300 BC That's over a thousand years plus 1600 years 1600 years have gone by And nobody Nobody mentions Noah ever That's pretty suspect Now you do

You do have other flood stories Before Noah Yeah You have Ushnapitam You have Dukalian You have Epic of Gilgamesh But those don't mention Noah Those are other guys doing flood stuff.

Noah. Flood stuff. Yeah, Noah shows up. Noah shows up in the primary sources around 300. Right, right. Like, he points out, 1,600 years have gone by. That's why when you said 9-100, I said it's more than that. 1600.

And that's if you give them the latest date. It might even be more than that. If I said 2,500, we're looking at 2,000 years before Noah shows up in that history. It's made up. It's made-up mythology. It's insane. Let's just be real here. Yeah.

You know, I know it gives a lot of people comfort to think that we have it all figured out. Religion has always been correct. But it's just not true. I'm not even being, I'm not even an atheist. I'm not, I'm just saying that this one isn't true, but I don't know what the truth is. I'm leaving it open. I think that's the best way to approach it. And then he also said that the, he thinks the book of Job is the one book that doesn't belong in the biblical canon.

Who said that? Thomas Payne. Oh. He said the book of Joe. I can see why he'd say that. He said it stands totally disconnected from the other books. It does because it doesn't mention, it doesn't mention Abraham or Noah or Jacob or 12 tribes. It doesn't even mention Israel.

And it mentions like astronomical names. Yeah, it has, it has zodiac figures in it. And there's no evidence that the Jews knew anything about this stuff. Well, they do eventually. But at the time, I know what he means. He said they had no knowledge of astronomy at the time it was written. Yes. Yes. So he's saying when Job was supposedly written, they wouldn't have had that information yet. It would have been centuries later. So yeah, yeah, that's a good point. And that's the thing. Yeah, Job is a weird book. It does stand in its own category. Yeah, that's wild shit, dude. It doesn't even happen in Israel. It happens to the land of Ouse. No one even knows where that is. He never mentions the 12 tribes. Doesn't mention Jerusalem. Doesn't mention Jacob or Noah or Moses or the laws or the Torah. It's just it's just, it's just.

randomly by itself. Look at location mentioned in the Old Testament prominently the book of there is a man in the land of ooze. It is mentioned it is most often theorized that the land is ooze. So they don't really know for sure. Right. It's just kind of guessing. But yeah.

But yeah, so the founding, that's, I just want to, I think if there's anything I'm really trying to like drive home is that these revolutions that happened between the end of the 18th century through the middle of the 19th century with American Revolution, French Revolution,

and so forth, are driven not by Judeo-Christian ethics, but the opposite of that. The actual rejection of those things. And that's what our Constitution is kind of built on. It's kind of built on the ethics that are opposing Judeo-Christianity and looking and started drawing

from the old Roman Republic of the pagan culture. Right. The Dionysian Apollonian culture. Yeah. You know? And out of all the planets that are able to inhabit life in our solar system, our planet is the one that Jesus came to. I know, right?

No, but seriously, though, it is a little speck of blue-green in the middle of nowhere. And there's just like things that can contemplate things here or, like, move at their own will. it's so trippy it's more trippier or more mind-blowing than anything in the Bible the whole idea of of life emerging from non-life and then evolution occurring

that's way crazier than some guy died and came back to life way crazier yeah and it's like I always wonder what's gonna so this is some of the stuff I've been thinking about lately is like this earth is not going to be eternal like the sun's

going to get to a point where it's going to expand. Oh yeah. It'll have a solar burp and we'll be gone. Exactly. And if we don't get off at before that, if we don't figure out, if humans don't figure out a way to get off the planet at some point and like become like, I don't know, have like a

floating life. I don't know. What do you, what would you even call like a dome floating around in space with its own way of like having plants and atmosphere and oxygen. It's a terraform. It's a terraform. Generation ship. Yeah, like a terraform

ship. That's what I'm thinking of. If we don't figure out that. If we don't figure out that, it's over. Yeah. Or you go to the moon. It's a waste of time. The whole entire project of the earth was a waste of time. Or we could just go underwater under the oceans. You think we would survive that way? I think we could survive under the oceans. And then what? You just come out. Look how old there's sharks that are fucking ancient. You're smart. You're thinking about it. There are species that didn't survive. Yeah. The apocalypse, if you want to call it that. Yes. Absolutely. Maybe if we copied what they did.

Alligators, crocodiles, or dinosaurs. I wonder if there's elites that have built underwater places where they can go if something ever happens. For sure. Because you have Denver, Colorado. You have the underground tunnels down there. And that's where the president's going to go, if anything.

Yeah, there's the one in Virginia, too. But I wonder if there's any underwater ones in the ocean somewhere. There has to be, bro. They're fucking happening. There has to be. Yeah. I think that's... Probably some UN leaders that have that shit.

If there's future humans here on Earth, they're probably hiding under the oceans. think so that's what robert sepher thinks that there's underground um white people tall whites tall tall nordics tall nordics that are underground somewhere yeah well that's what the

a lot of the abduction there's like thousands of these alien abduction accounts that have been written about and studied over the years and a lot of them they talk about these like nordic looking humans being on these crafts like talking to them and shit i wonder why i wonder why nordic maybe it's just like I don't know they yeah explain

it says they have these accounts recall them having long white hair and then being tall and like light it kind of reminds you of the Graham Hancock

the the people who the South Americans that yes yeah maybe they saw an alien very possible I mean look

if they're time traveling back to us we're probably just a blip on the timeline they can go way fucking back right they can go back really far. That's what Georgiani said.

Georgiani said that he thinks that some of the... I think this is what he said. I might be fucking this up a little bit. But I think he said that some of the shit we see in our past, like the Great Pyramids, could be future humans going back and doing that shit. To basically leave a trace that like let...

Give us a hint that like something's not right. Like something... You think so? I think that's what we said. I feel like you could do better than that, though, then like build some sort of megalithic structure. I feel like you could do better than that. But why not leave like a technology behind that nobody can figure out? Because it's probably a puzzle, a puzzle that we have to put together with our reason.

You think it'd be too much to leave like some sort of like spaceship or something that can like, you can like press a button and it turns out and it'll go. Yeah, but it wouldn't survive nature. Yeah, it would rust the way. The only shit that survives thousands of years is giant stone structures. But that means that they're not that advanced because they're not that advanced that they can leave something behind and that can stay through the elements. then they had to have some limits on them. Yeah, but like...

What I'm saying is you're still I'm still saying you're possible. But if that's all their options are is to build a megalith structure and hope that we find it, that kind of says something about them in a little bit. Yeah, well, there's these megalithic structures

that there's no reasonable explanation as to how they were created. Yes. Look at Thomas Paines. You can describe, people are filling the gaps with fucking aliens, right? They're trying to... Like, Beckley-T-Pet, we've done figured out, really.

They're trying to... E-T-the-Gaps with reason for how this was fucking created. These two-mill... There's, like, over two million blocks. It's either aliens or God. It can't be anything else. Right. Aliens or God, or advanced humans. Or advanced humans.

Like, there's an idea that the human timeline is not linear that, like, we advanced. Either, there's this long timeline of thousands of years, and somehow... The Ice Age? Around 800 or when was the... Last Ice Age? 10,000 BC.

Yeah, the last place to see. 12,000 BC. 12,000, yeah, 12,800 BC. Around there, there were some sort of cataclysm that basically wiped out humanity. And we had to reset us back to the Stone Age. So we evolved so much and created all this crazy technology. That's how we built the pyramids. We had a crazy different understanding of the world in physics and math, everything.

We got wiped out. And now we had to. restart. Now we don't understand how this was made. Or Georgiani thinks in the future, they took their time machine, went way back into the past and built this shit to confuse us. It's all mind-blowing. Because if you think about it, to sort of go with that for a second,

the timeline of history sort of does start around 10,000 BC. That's when you start seeing like structures that are built with designers that can withstand time. And not just like not just arrows for hunting, but like Quebecle Tape, not just Quebec the city of Jericho was built around 10,000 BC. The palace at Nassos Crete, there is a, there's a bottom layer at Nassos Crete where there

was some sort of building structure there around 10,000 BC also. And then you have around 7,000 BC or 6,000 BC, there's a giant palace there on top of it. So, somewhere between 10,000 BC and 6,000 BC, which is the end of the stone age, up until the copper age, you do start to see civilization starts to start getting faster and faster and better and better and better. All of a sudden they know how to use copper metal. It's pretty damn fast. But before that, before 10,000 BC, they're just, according, I'm just using the scholarship that the consensus. There's just hunter-gatherers for like hundreds and thousands of years. and then all of a sudden,

they explode in technology with just the last speck of time. Something happened. Something happened. You know, Terrence McKenna is probably the most, out of all the wild theories that are not... Stone dap theory. Stone dap theory.

That's the one that I think makes the most sense. I think so too. Because it's like, what if humanoids or humans or whatever, homo sapiens, started eating mushrooms because they couldn't find anything else to eat? And they started tripping balls and thinking about space and thinking about math, thinking about thinking about

these random shit and then I started thinking about writing down symbols and all of a sudden you have writing, hieroglyphs. That's what makes sense to me. Dude, I was, I had this dude in here

after the first time you came on here I had a guy come in a couple weeks after who he goes to all the ancient Indian temples all around India. This guy lives in India, born and raised in India. And we started talking about all the Hindu religions

and all like the history of all this stuff. And he was blown my first. fucking mind. He was explaining that there's a monkey. Do you remember the name of the monkey? I saw this part. Where he's talking about this monkey, they eat these fucking mushrooms and these monkeys are like the most evolved primates in all

of India. We need to do a case study on this. We need to bring this to the forefront because that's, Terence McCannock might be right. I had a biologist. She's not, I think she has a PhD now. She didn't yet when I talked to her, but she's really smart. Gutsigivig, actually, is her name. She's a YouTube channel.

I threw this at her What do you think about this theory? She's not sold by it But she was like, it's not impossible That Terrence mechanic could be right She was like, we just don't know We just can't really tell There's no way of testing it

Right But like it is true And this is what she was saying to me It is true that right around this time 10,000 BCE Human intellect just explodes And then all of a sudden Within the next 10,000

From 10,000 BC to To the common era you're seeing a straight uptick and human intellect. Like never been before. It's like a line like this that it just goes up. Right. Like just straight uptick and human intellect for the next thousands of years. But like those 10,000 years is a speck.

It's nothing compared to the hundreds of millions of years that things have been, that Earth has been here and humanoids have been around. It's nothing. Nothing. Steve, pull up that temple. that Praveen was showing us. The temple in India that's carved out of the side of a fucking mountain

and it's all one stone it's insane, dude. There's this megalithic temple, this giant temple carved out of, I think it's it's not granite, but it's caliche. It's volcanic, some sort of volcanic rock and it's this beautiful

this is it right here. Yeah, Kalish. Kalish. Go to images. It'll tell you what it's made of. Oh yeah. It's the largest, of the rock-cut temples at the Allura Caves

in India. So that's all carved in. It's carved out of one rock. They literally they excavated it. That's amazing. So like they cut out all the negative space. It's not built like something we build today. So they would have to find one giant rock to do this. Yeah, exactly. How do they know it was on a one giant rock? It's a mountain made out of stone. Yeah, but what if the rock, what if the stone had like different, what if it had like a crack in it somewhere? Dude, how do you plan this? That's what I'm saying. That's what I don't understand this is mind blowing what if there was a crack in it somewhere how do they know that the

whole thing was solid right exactly and they would have wasted all their time look at this dude imagine if they're digging down there and they're doing a good job all that whole top part they do then all a sudden they get to that bottom part and it's cracked or there's like a cavity yeah there's a huge hole there right right right you're right they had to have known that this thing was one find some of the images from the lower angle where it shows all the bridges and shit that are there yeah that one on the right no it's beautiful no no close that okay so the go down right there yeah yeah that one's good what this one yeah that one should be good yeah that's nice plenchant on that oh yeah okay look at it so look at this look how small the people are look at

oh my god that's huge it's three stories at least and there's one rock it's very similar in style to egyptian you know that you know it's very you can you can there's a lot of people who pointed out that egyptians and indians have been in contact for longer than we think yeah They weren't separated for that long. In the Bhagavagita, I made this connection when I was preparing for this podcast. I was reading the whole story about how, is it Krishna? Krishna. Put a fucking drug in his eyes.

Arjun. To make him see. To make him see his final form. Or his universal form. I fucking saw that. I was like, oh my God. It's the soma. It's the equivalent of the Greek kikian, Kukion.

It's a psychedelic drink. and yeah. But it says they literally put it in his eyes so that he can see. So we can see. Isn't that awesome? Dude, that's incredible. They were saying that the Indo-European word, Gehu,

which means to like pour or libate, is where we get the word God from. The English word for God comes from an Indo-European word that's also cognate with Kaikian and Soma and Ha'omah. So drugs, the ancient word for drugs, The ancient drugs, I should say, are all cognate with each other, where it goes back to Indo-European word, gahoo. That word gahoo is cognate with the word God in English.

So it's like, I can actually show you this. If you look up Indo-European vocabulary. Look at all those fucking elephants, dude. It's amazing, dude. That's amazing. And by the way, the Indians are Indo-Europeans. They're language. And I think the Islamists came in and tried to destroy all this stuff.

They did. They did. Indo-European vocabulary Yeah, right there All right Now, can you do a word search for Do a word search

There's like an No, no, no, I know it's in that one That's why I said the wiki Yeah So if you do a word search Type in the word libate L-I-B-A-T-E All right, see, look at this

Okay, this is going to be crazy To pour or invoke Now look at, look on the right It's cognate with Homa, the oblation of a Vedic ritual. That's the drug. Soma. That's what it's called.

Homa. Whoa. So the word God, if you go up just a little bit, so you can see the top where it says, go up a little. English, God. Yeah. So you see, Indo-European, Gihu, English, God, Latin, I don't know where fund do comes from, but these people know. And then in Sanskrit, Homa. So this drug, what is Homa?

That's the Soma drink. Oh. That's the drink that makes you see the gods. Holy shit. So our word for God is has a cognate with the word the drugs that are Krishna is using. Isn't that crazy? It is crazy, dude. So the word God's connected to drugs.

Yes, I think it is. Dude, after literally falling down this rabble hole with you and Amman like a couple months ago, it just, it makes the, what makes the most sense to me, the easiest way for me to understand this is that these ancient people were taking drugs and it showed them the fucking fabric of the universe. Yeah. And they thought that was God. Well, as I've mentioned many times before, I've had a lot of experiences with DMT. And those experiences with DMT has me convinced that our religion comes from psychedelic experience.

Yeah. So I don't know what happened, how they got away from that stuff. A lot of primary sources reflect it. You know, you have sources of the Hebrew Levites smoking cannabis in the hot holy holies or hot boxing it. Like lighting it on an altar, lighting the whole thing. get filled with smoke and it's the it's the aroma of god you have the kakianne in greece drinking the wine mixed with the ergot yeah you have the soma you have the haoma and persia you have all these different types of psychedelics and they're all connected to these major

priesthoods then you have a eucharist in christianity and then all of a sudden drugs are gone so it's like what was the theriac that was like a bunch of snake venom the the ther venom was the roman era drug mixed with venom's yeah that's that That's what Gaitland. There was a ton of shit. Can you find the ingredients list? I don't know if we know it all, but you can look it up, yeah. Type in the ingredients list for the Theriac.

I think it was like 12 different North African viper venoms. Oh, they do know it. I didn't know they knew it. I thought it was a mystery. Here we go. According to commentary on Exodus, the Spanish scholar Moses, Ben Nachman list the ingredients of the theriac. Levin, honey, flesh of wild beasts and reptiles,

dried squirpian and viper. Oh, it was flesh of viper. dried scory scorpion what the hell and i know i know that dried scorpion is a psychedelic i found that out i got a bunch of roots really i thought almond said they had a bunch of roots wait a minute hold on stop right there that's where you get dm t from from extracting from roots is it a specific root it's almost every root has lay some sort of dmt in it every single kind of root so mimosa hostilis root bark cinnamon so mimosa hostilis root bark and acacia can infusion root bark have the highest levels of DMT.

Right. But it's said that every kind of root bark has some little bit of DMT in it. So those can all have DMT in it, just a little bit amounts of it. Right. Didn't almond also say there was like bodily fluids mixed in there? Yeah. Fours. Fruits and seeds.

Oh, by the way, you have to add as what's called Syrian root seeds to your acacia root bark to convert it from DMT to ayahuasca. Because it's an M-A-O inhibitor. Right, right, right, right. So those seeds might be M-A-O inhibitors. How do they figure that shit out, dude? But if I had a guess, that's what's going on. You have the seeds, you have the M-A-O inhibitors, you have the DMT roots, and you have all these other types of stuff mixing up with this, making this super magic potion to meet the gods with.

Good God. That's a ton of ingredients. I know, it's nuts, dude. It's nuts. It's more than if anyone's tried to recreate it, like, in modern times. I want to see, I want to see it when I come down here? Yeah. I want to see.

I want like some sort of like pharmacologist chemists. Yeah, I would need some help to try to do this shit and try to make it. I don't know if it'd be ethical. You know, if you really took almond. It's easy to make DMT though. If you took almonds literally. I didn't want to make DMT. It's super easy.

It's so easy to do. Just get acacia, Akasha confused root bark or, I mean, most of the hot stills your bark. It's legal because you can use it as dye. Purple dye. Purple dye. I'm not kidding. You can use it as purple dye. I've done it before.

Isn't that rhyme blowing? That's why I take Ammon seriously sometimes. because you can you do it he's right you know what I mean but so okay you can use that purple diet and it's legal for that yeah but if you don't use it with purple diet you can you can add it to hot boiled water and you'll see the layers mix up together uh you got to add a caustic soda you got to mix it up with the costic soda get it real hot and then the layers start to separate um shake it up real good shake it up real good probably let it sit for a day in a hot bath the next day you add the naptha naphth is in the bible too for um

Anyways, NAPHA's in the Bible. So you added it with the naphtha. Then you see a thin layer on top that's clear and a big thick purple layer on the bottom. You extract the thin clear layer with a pipette, you know, something you extract it with. You get a little pirates. This is how easy it is. I'm almost done. You get a little pyrux dish, a glass pyrux dish.

Squirt the extraction in there. Put it in the freezer. overnight. The next day, when you take it out of the freezer, you'll see the DMT crystals on the bottom. Napha does not freeze. So you dump the naphtha out, put it back in your dish or whatever.

You can reuse naphth like seven times. And then you dry out those crystals. And it becomes, it's pure DMT. Wow. It's that easy. It's that easy. You smoke it. It's the best way to do it.

Smoke it. You have to vaporize it. Right. So you get fucking... I just taught your out inside of make DMT's... You go to heaven for... You go to have it. heaven for nine ten minutes i have i have i have experiences that i'll i won't even do justice to try to

talk about it it's only just you just it's just that it's life changing i told you about that you go into different places and come back you literally are gone and come back i told you about that especially if you close your eyes and do it i really i used yeah i used to take a um a beanie just put it over my eyes my i did it because when your eyes are closed you go into your head and you just you could just drift off into outer space. When your eyes are open, you're focusing on your environment

and then you're not focused on, you want to meditate. You want to be like, we want to be like sitting there like this. That's why I just put a beanie over my head and that's, and any distraction. I'll even put ear plugs in

because any sounds from the outside will wake you up. Interesting. You want to be completely distracted from everything. And then whenever I would let someone do it, someone wanted to try it, I would give it to him,

tell them how to do it, and I would leave. I'm going to go leave for 10 minutes. I'm going to leave you by yourself. I don't want to, because I don't want to sit there and bug you and ask, how is it, dude? Yeah.

Because I would hate that. Right. I would literally show them how to do it. Here you go. I'll even do it before you. Show you how it's safe. I'll do it before him. They'll watch me trip.

They'll be like, whoa, dude, you were tripping out bad. Yeah, that was fun. It was amazing. It was ecstasy. Feels amazing. So now you know how to do it. You watch me do it. Here you go.

Here's your dosage. I'm going to walk away. I'll be back in 10 minutes because you'll be sobered by then. Because that's how, that's it. Five minutes, you're back. Back to normal. There's no, there is no come down.

There's no, how often in your heyday? How often would you do it? There were time periods where I would do it every day. Really? There was time periods where I did that. I had some, I had some, some, I had some DMT phases, let's say that. My biggest fear with it is not being able to come back to reality.

It's never happened and ever. It's impossible. It's impossible. It's impossible. I mean, not being like, because not being half life of DMT is, it's physically impossible. I don't mean like permanently tripping. I mean like it, it actually causes something. Rewires your brain permanently to where you don't, you no longer think the way you used to think.

It does. In a good way. I think it makes people smarter. I think it made me smarter. I used to be a dumb ass. I used to never do good in school. I used to not pay attention to anything. Now I'm all, now I think it improves.

I think it improves my thinking. I really, I honestly do think. that because every since I when I had that DMT phase I was kind of just like a loser doing pouring concrete and working living in a dumpy apartment and then after that I got really one like I started wondering about things more started studying things more started researching things more and then next and I wound up gnostic informant and it's got to be some connection that way right yeah but that does that happen to everybody though or there are some people that just fucking never leave their apartments and just

maybe maybe that I couldn't tell you it's interesting I told you had a guy Andrew Gallimore on the show a couple yeah about a year ago who's in Tokyo and he's studying this stuff full time and he's doing this extended state DMT research where he gives people like an IV drip of DMT all day where they keep him in they pull them out briefly and it's like tell me what you're seeing tell me what's going on and they're trying to like map this whole DMT realm to figure out what the fuck's really going on and what's there like is there a veil that just that drops when you're not under how successful that's going to be because like I said

when you're on it and people are talking to you, it takes away from the experience. It's hard to stay focused because people who've done it are going to understand what I'm saying about this. There is some sort of like, you have to kind of days off for it to work. You have to kind of doze yourself off.

If you're focused on the world, if you're focused on all of this, you'll stay here. You can like hold on to this world if you really wanted to. If you let yourself doze off and you just kind of, you know how you daydream?

You're just like, if you do that, you're going to go off. That's how you blast off from date from dozing off. Let it yourself slip. Like I said, that's why I use the beanie. When you close your eyes and do it, it's the best way to do it. Because you're not focusing on the world around you.

You're just in your head. And that's the, those are the best ones. And you're just gone in your head. Right. You just start seeing like anything. Start seeing color. Start seeing shapes. Start seeing crystal.

Start seeing all kinds of weird smoke. Sometimes it's all smoky or something. Like it's really weird, dude. It's hard to explain. And Joe Rogan did a good job explaining it a long time ago. This is from an old clip where Joe Rogan says, it's like, imagine if you had liquid gold in your hands and you're trying to hold onto it and it just slips through your fingers. That's what it's like. You can't hold onto it.

You want to hold onto it. You can't take it with you. Can't take it with you. Really? You try to remember things. Like I've always told people when I'm my biggest breakthrough when I met a God that looked like Brahma. And I tell people this all the time. And I'll never forget it.

I remember it like it was yesterday. And I specifically remember having a telepathic conversation with this being on DMT. But I don't remember what it was. When I came back down, I forgot it. I don't remember what the hell we were talking about. Who knows? I have no idea. So how do you not remember that?

I'm just don't remember it. It's like when you wake up from a dream every morning, you wake up from a dream. And you're like, I had a crazy dream. And then five minutes later, you get up, walk around, you forget your dream. It's the same exact thing. And I think their dreams, I think DMT is like dreaming life. There's a guy, there's a video I watched on YouTube once where this guy was explaining how when he used to take DMT or when he, I think he was taking mushrooms or DMT. Anyway, when he was young, he got in a car crash and he almost died and he said he had this near death experience where he saw all these beings and stuff.

Because people say like when you have a near death experience, there's reports of people like going into different realms and like seeing crazy shit. He said this happened to him when he was young. And then when he got older, he went with his body on top of a mountain top, and he took either DMT, I think it was DMT. And he said he saw the same entity he saw during his near-death experience. And he said the entity said to him, he's like, you're not supposed to be here. What did it look like? Do you remember?

I don't know. You'd have to pull up the video again. But he said it. I think it maps on to our own understanding of things. And like at that time when I was doing that, I don't remember ever researching Hinduism. But there might have been a time where I saw. saw Brahma in a painting and it just kind of stuck into my

deep consciousness and when I tripped I saw that and thought that was like what God should look like for whatever reason but I don't think I did I don't remember being big I remember finding that paint I remember seeing images of Brahma later and being like that's the guy I saw on DMT

so it's like it is a little weird that that played out that way just to be honest yeah that's fucking is an interesting correlation like he had it had it had he whatever had multiple hands on one side and they were all moving yeah i remember you telling me this indian gods had that and it was like this on the other side and his head was multiple heads spinning and he was sitting indian style and he was wearing robes like golden shiny robes

white golden shiny robes and there was like things orbiting him like space like planets or something or stars and something there was like shapes it looked like they were orbiting him yeah and it was all smoky in the room yeah like white smoke was everywhere it was weird and that was one of the biggest breakthroughs i've ever had and i was and al it's it's stuck with me like it's it's like life-changing shit yeah then i had random ones like one of the random ones that i had was me and my the girlfriend i was with at the time uh we went to the park in some like forest somewhere i don't know where we were and I was driving the car and it was a lanyard over my my uh with the keys of the car and uh she wasn't doing it but I was she was just there I took a rip of it and all of a sudden

the car keys this is the car keys started shooting lightning bolts out I thought I was going to hit her and kill her started shooting zo zo zo zo zo zo and then all of a sudden I was like I turned around and I looked up and I saw in the sky it looked like Mickey mouse and he was taking clouds. He was in the sky. He looked like he was like just sitting in the sky and he was grabbing the clouds and putting him over himself like a blanket and he was turning away. Like he was like cold and he was taking the blankets and covering himself with it. Right. It was just random. So it had no meaning. My mind was just gone. And the first

time I ever did it, I oh my God, I didn't know what was going to work or not because I made it myself with my friend from Lebanon. Muslim dude was doing it with me. And I haven't talked to that guy. I while. But anyways, so we're at his part we're making it and we we do it. We had a what is it called? A volcano that vaporizing. The best thing you can do for DMT

because it just perfectly vaporizes it. Took a rip, got that bitter taste and I look at my friend and he's got his faces just like multi-he has an eye on his forehead. He had a third eye growing out of his head and I go I gotta go outside.

And went outside and the Everything was beautiful. The plants were like had faces on them. They're talking and breathing. The sky was beautiful, blue, perfect sunny day out. But then I looked up and I saw a spaceship fly by. And I'm not kidding. It looked so real.

I thought I was like that is, it was huge. It was like half the sky was a spaceship flying right past me. And I was like, do you see that? My friend just came back down from doing his head. He was just like, whoa. and then we walked around for five minutes and then it was gone and I was like, do you feel it anymore?

He's like, no. I'm like, that's it. And my first time, I remember people saying it takes 10, 15. Right. And I remember looking at Friday and I go, how much time it's gone by? The third friend we were with

and didn't do it. He's like five minutes. I go, what? I was like it felt like at least 20 minutes. He's like, no, that was five minutes. Wow. So it was kind of crazy. Yeah, what if all that shit's just there all the time?

That's what people think. All the shit you see on DMT. you see on. And the DMT is just tearing down your sensors. It like gives you an antenna. So like you can like all of a sudden now you're you're locked in like Bluetooth. Mm-hmm. Like you can hear it and you can see it, you know. It's kind of crazy to think about. You're going, you're getting fucking catapulted right into the fucking world of the muse, the muses. That's what these are these, uh, this rocha crucian shit. These people that have all these practices to like connect themselves to this like ethereal consciousness. Yeah, I've heard about.

They have like different protocols that they use were like they won't have caffeine. They'll meditate. And they have these these things they try at the end of the day where they try to like recall their play their entire day backwards and reverse. Like everything they did. And it's supposed to like strengthen their antenna to this other realm or whatever. Really? Yeah. Have you never looked into Rosicrucianism? Is anyone swear by it?

Is anyone? Yeah, I've heard about it. I thought it was like a new age Christian slash. spiritual mysticism movement. Yeah, it's more like spiritual mysticism. Like they're really into UFOs and connecting to, it's like, what's the guy's name? Um, the philosopher who wrote about the Neuosphere, Chardon. Oh yeah. Somehow tied into all that stuff. Yeah, I don't know. Is anyone, you know, anyone who's into that? No. No, neither do I. I've met people, I've had people on the show who are really into it. Yeah. But I don't know anyone who like actively practices it, but I've read about it.

heard in the Eastern religions of Kundalini, people doing Kundalini meditation and like feeling a serpent crawling up their spine and like letting them have like some sort of psychedelic experience by meditation without any

drugs. Yeah. So I've heard people say that works. Yeah. Breathing you can do by like hyperventilating with your breathing like the Wim Hof type shit. You can have this same kind of experience. I guess it's never been debunked yet but it's not like proven but that like our brains have DMT in it. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's true. They say that there's a theory is

Mattro causes us the dream at night. It causes us for like the REMC. That makes perfect sense. Well, you know, there's, as someone who's done DMT, it's like dreaming. The pineal gland, I think we have a pineal gland in our brain, which is supposed to secrete DMT. The theory is that that's what secretes the DMT that's responsible for REMCLE. That's the top of our antenna. Yeah, but like I think, I think, I could be wrong, certain reptiles have in their pineal gland, they actually have like a retina on it. Really? To where it like used.

Like an eye. Like an eye inside their forehead. So we have an old evolutionary dead eye. Can you Google that? Can you Google? That would be cool if that's true. Reptile pineal gland retina. That's true.

And we have an actual eyeball in our brain. That would be mind-blown. Like one that's been calcified and kind of like devolved. You know how people go, people say like don't drink water from the sink. It's going to calcified. or whatever decalcify your third eye. Some reptiles like the green iguana have a partial eye, which is a structure that contains a retina and a lens located at the top of the head beneath the skin.

The partial eye is similar to the eye in terms of embryological development and as the genes expressed during this process, but it's usually covered by a thick scale that can be only differentiated between light and dark. It's not functional in most reptiles and fades as they mature. but some lizards can use it to detect blue and green light, which helps them to tell time of day. The partial eye may also help reptiles sense danger and navigate by detecting shadows and changes in light. Damn.

Go to images. So if we're evolution... Well, Indians believe in reptile gods too, right? Oh, yeah. So do Greeks. It's a parietal eye. Parietal. There's a good picture of...

Look at that, dude. That's an eyeball? There's another one. right there. They're saying there's a lens and a retina on that thing. So they can see out of that thing or they just sense things?

It's a sensor. Censor, right. That's crazy. And then find a picture of a human pineal gland. Wait, so do you think that since evolutionary-wise were connected to reptiles

somewhat, maybe that's part of what we have up there? Maybe. I mean... Third ventricle. The third ventricle. What is ventricle mean? Didn't you hear Amin tell me

about the third ventricle? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the water of life. Yep, because there is a liquid in there. Yeah. And he thinks they use it for the drugs. Pineal gland, there's a decent image. He holds those sources to himself sometimes.

I want to see some more Gaelin from him going forward. But I know it's, dude, I know he's not lying because whenever he does show me that shit, it's there. The purple thing, I didn't know if there was. I remember, I've run into sources about purple a lot, especially with like Hasekius's Lexicon where you have like purple Yap Bakke chance

and there's like the Bakke chance but they also can mean purple and then I was like okay what about the burning purple well there is this one

source from diascorities it does actually mention burning cassaya porfura burning burnt purple and it's used

from it even says it's used for many medical things including healing so I'm like oh shit

he's not lying about this right You know, after listening, I was listening to a podcast where Jordan Peterson was like elucidating the Bible and Jesus Christ and the whole history of religion and Christianity. And he was basically, you know how Jordan Peterson does it. He like lays out how this philosophical framework for morality is there to help us be a efficient and a structured society. he makes a case for Christianity somehow being a way to

make society work in a way that we can all live in harmony right and the more you think about like I was trying to conflate he tries to make that argument that Judeo Christianity is the moral ethics behind all Western culture as if going against what I've been saying this whole time yeah but like when you think about how Amin describes this stuff. He's looking at it from a completely different perspective. He's looking at it from like, like, after once you, if you take the way Jordan Peterson describes this stuff and describes all the philosophical, ethereal layers to how this is a structure for society, if you excavate through all the layers of stories and myths and philosophy that's been written about Jesus, he like Amin describes it is he's, he's,

Basically what he's done is taken like the very bottom layer, right? Right now we're like way up here. And there's all these fucking layers of dirt below it. And what he, like he talks about it in a way where he's talking about exactly what this guy was doing. It's like it's like almost like as if he is dug up the fucking base layer, the biological dirt and bones of this guy. of this guy and like what he actually was. He's basically saying that

all of this context of what was going on back then, we've lost it now. We're in a different paradigm. Which in a way he's right. As I was talking about earlier in this podcast, the 18th and 19th century was a paradigm shift

away from, you know, church run kingdoms. You know, the different kingdoms all connected to the church where now all of a sudden it's like liberalism freedom of speech that was a paradigm shift but before that there was another paradigm shift and it was that ancient greek drug orgiastic world with philosophy right with people living ethically with all that stuff but sort of like mixed together right and so he's sort of bringing back that culture he's bringing back the biology of it

like bringing it back the biology the fucking nuts and bolts and bones of this thing like he's pulled out the fucking skeleton of what it actually was. And that's been, the one that's been like deeply buried that no one's seen ever, for a long time. And then again, you have to look at it like, is he biased? How biased

is he? Because if you think about him and the psychology of Amin and how he was fucked over by the university and basically told the, what was he, they said that the Romans wouldn't do such a thing. Right. How that basically a classicist like him who spent all of his

studying this stuff and wanting to find it out. There's not much more you can do to motivate somebody to fucking shove it in their face about how wrong they are. He's dedicated. He's driven.

He's driven to basically prove them wrong. I bet. And I almost don't play them, you know. I don't either. It's got his muse. He's got his muse, and that's what his muse is telling him. His muse is a dead girl. That's what he says.

It's a dead girl. In fact, what I want to do is when I move down here, and I already talked to him about this, I want to set up a discussion where we just let him fucking go. We need to get him to move down here too. We need the devil to move down for it. I'm going to have, the department that I looked at is going to have a room for the podcast, for, you know, for podcasts, whatever, recording and doing videos and working out, you know, an office room and an extra bedroom for people to come in.

So I can have people visit and, you know, I can have guests come in. Yeah. There'll be a guest room. Mm-hmm. And that way, you know, I can get, get on one down here, get whoever else down here. I reached out to, I emailed probably two dozen classicists from Harvard and other universities. To talk to Ammo? To talk to Ammo?

None of them want to do it. None of them want to do it. In fact, one. Is that anyone respond? One of them who actually, I can't remember his name right now. Probably better we don't tell his name. Yeah. But he actually is a, he's a.

a Bible scholar and he's actually studied Greek. He probably knows more Greek than any Bible scholar. I wonder if I know him. He respond, you probably do. We'll look it up after we're fun and finished recording, but he actually responded to me and he said he doesn't want to give Amman that platform. He's like, it doesn't deserve the platform. He doesn't deserve the oxygen. He's saying for it's that bad? He says that Amman so far off. Like he doesn't deserve the time it's not worth his time to even talk to him because the guy he doesn't want to give him any more

attention well why don't you could have made you so famous people just make any sense to me because are people just afraid of him i don't know but the reason why that doesn't make any sense to me is because you can you can be the next flint dibble and you have like your your moment of of fame debunking how horror if it's so bad and so wrong right you should be able to come in here sit down and show with the sources why this is nonsense and then you'll be able you'll give fame from that Well, here's the hard part about that is you can't just look at the, like, it's easy for him to say the sources say this, but you can't, you can't fact check him because no one else can read the fucking sources. But these guys supposedly both can. Unless you have somebody who's really fluent in the Greek, who's right all the same shit that he has.

Right. That's what I'm saying. And if he can, if they can both come in here and he can pull up these sources and say, what does this say? That's what I'm saying. If this guy's so confident that Amun's so bad that he doesn't deserve the platform for that. Right. It doesn't follow. No.

It's so bad, I'm coming in there right now and I'm shutting that shit down. Because he already has a platform. That ship's already sailed. Yeah. So you're just letting him, now you're letting him rock out without checking him. Yes. So you are platforming him by not debunking him. So that way you just, that guy can't be that smart for me to just think about that right now.

Yeah. That doesn't even follow. This is just logically made no sense. Right. I'm not giving him a platform. We're giving you a platform to show why he's so wrong. Mm-hmm. You know?

Yeah. And the fact that he's so dedicated to this. Like he's he's so rare in the fact like he won't he he refuses to monetize his YouTube channel. Did you see that article from medium from somebody? He sent it to me last night. Yeah. That was a long article. It mentions my name in it too.

Yeah. You know, it's interesting too. When I brought up to him, I'm like, what do you think about the Anunnaki and the Nephilim? Yeah, I saw that part. He's like, he laughed at it. He's like, that's such bullshit. Right. I'm like, you believe all this shit, but you don't believe aliens.

You don't believe the Anunnaki were aliens? No, he thinks that I think he said that the giants meant like they were intellectual giants. If it ain't a Greek source, he don't believe it. Right. Yeah, it's funny because... Where did the Anunaki alien concept come from? That came from, who's the guy who was a... Oh, Dechariah Sitchin.

Sitchin. I was thinking, I drew a blank too. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I always drew a blank on his name for some reason. When were the, those texts, those tablets? When were those made? When were those discovered? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or no, when was that, when was the Sumerian...

When were they written? When was the Sumerian civilization? 3,000 BC. 3,000 BC. I think it's... I think they start... 3,500 BC and then they replaced by the Babylonians at

2,500 BC. So it's like 3,000 years, something like that. Right. Or I mean, 1,000 years. Something like that. The Sitchin shit's crazy. Like he said they were trying to like, they were trying to like mine gold so they can put gold particles in the atmosphere to, and now you have there's actually a science, an

article. Is that true? Well, that's what Sitchin writes about. He says that Anunaki, we're trying to use gold to put in the atmosphere for something. And now, I think recently, climate scientists came out to say they can put gold particles in our atmosphere to stop climate change. Wow. Can you find that? See if that's real? If that's true, then you got to give precision a point there

for that. Type in like climate scientists gold particles in atmosphere. See if that's real. I saw that. I heard that somewhere. I could have just been some fucking crazy conspiracy theory I saw on Twitter. But sometimes that shit comes true. I think I heard Joe Rogan to that before. Exploring how gold might be used to help the climate change.

It's going to be an article. World Gold Council. That's World Gold Council. Not a YouTube video. It's an article. Okay. Well, I'm... Just scroll down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. NASA's gold finds... Surprising shapes in the atmosphere. Going for atmosphere gold, NASA? A startup says it's begun releasing particle. Click on that one.

What about the NASA one? A startup... A startup says it's begun releasing particles into the atmosphere in an effort to tweak the climate. Is it gold? Go down. Gold. Gold finger. Is it the same article? Those are the only mentions of gold in this article.

Go back. It's going to be something else. What's that one? Yeah, atmospheric gold, 2018. For the first time, I'm punching on that. Global Scale observations of the limb and disc gold instruments launched in this space

where all the commercialized gold was in all two ways. No, I don't think this is it, is it? I mean, I saw some science. I've heard about this. I did. I've definitely heard about this. Gold. Particles.

You don't have particles in there. particles. Scientists. Okay, tiny gold. Okay, there we go. They found it. Click on that. It's fizz.org.

Yeah, physics.org. Tiny gold particles can help harness energy from the sun to break down pollution. I wonder what the technology is. When organic pollutants such as dyes, agricultural chemicals, and pharmaceuticals, enter waterways all around the world that can harm the environment in human health. And removing them can be incredibly difficult. Substances that absorb energy from low. light can be used to accelerate the rate of chemical reaction.

To solve the problem, the researchers say having their sites set on finding photo catalyst that can harness much more of the solar spectrum. If you can use solar light, it's cheaper and much more available than UV light. Gold nanoparticles key. Dude, yeah, no, you're not lying.

They're definitely talking about that. That's kind of crazy, huh? That's nuts. I mean like the question is did sets was something like this going on before Sitchin wrote that

or is Sitchin just guessed right? No this came out this came out way after this came out in 2023 last year 2020, yeah right so what do you say about that

I mean all the Sidgeon haters at least admit that he was you know guessing some good things on that one right yeah or maybe his translation's right never I couldn't tell you Yeah.

I go with Samuel and Noah Kramer when I go for Sumerian translations because I love his. He's translated like tons of texts. That's where I found the story about Inana. Does he still alive or no? I think he might have just recently died. He's an older scholar. I don't know if he's alive or dead or not, but that's a good question. But he translated the descent of Anana, the Catabasis of Anana, where she dies for three days and then resurrects and brings the dead up with her.

so that's like a clear example of a dying, rising God, all the way back in the Sumerians. Yeah. Just like the more talking about the hilarious. The dying rising gods. There's something with that three-day thing. That shows up in a lot of different sources. So when Dan McClellan came on the show, he was saying something about there was one Bible that he says is complete bullshit. I think it was the King James Bible.

Yeah. Why did he say that King James Bible was bullshit? Because the King James, well, King James had all these different. different like bishops or whatever, whatever they called. And they got together and they had convened that they were going to create a English Bible that was in uniform. That was, there had no contradictions and wanted, wants it to say what they want to say. So they made little changes in certain parts that they wanted to censor. They, they tweaked, they went with manuscripts that they agreed with.

they went with certain Latin manuscripts that aren't in the Greek. For example, I'll give me an example. The verse 1 John 5-7 has an extra like 10 words

at the end that doesn't show up in any of the ancient Greek manuscripts. And it's a Trinity. It happens to be a Trinity verse that says that God is the father and the son are one. And that doesn't show up

in any of the original manuscripts. It's only in the Latin. And they choose that one. But so basically they're making a Bible that's perfect, has no contradictions, completely in uniform, and it's in English. And it's the first time it's ever done like that. They also start the numbering systems at that time. So that's why when you find newer Bibles, NIV, for example, that says verse omitted. So let's say you're reading Mark and all of a sudden it says, Mark, verse 8 says, Jesus went to the waterfall. And verse 9 says, verse omitted. And then verse 10

back to right people go what's going on these scholars are evil they're deleting verses the king james has the verse that's because the king james has added verses

and it's not that the niv's deleting verses they're going back to the original manuscripts and they don't have that verse so they have to admit the verse because they're using the same numbering system

that the king james started right that they have to have the same numbering system in order to be able to compare Bibles so because they use the same numbering system they have to admit verses. And it's not that they're secret satanic scholars trying to delete Bible verses.

It's because they're using the original manuscripts. And the King James Bible is actually the secret evil ones. I'm just kidding. No, but they're the ones that added the verses. Okay, I see. So somebody broke it down on the internet. They answered a core question. This guy gives a great example where Jesus was placed in the Tanaka, whatever that is.

Yeah. Yeah. They're making it. Were all of the past tense and present tense words to change to future tense, yet all the other uses of that word were kept in, weren't tampered with. Because they want to make it more Christianized. The Old Testament has to have Jesus in it. So here's another prime example. The Old Testament has to have Jesus? They want to have the Old Testament point to Jesus more obviously. Because they can't add Jesus there. But they want to make it look like Jesus is there. So I'll give you a prime example.

I think it's Daniel. In the book of Daniel where it talks about the sons of God, it says a son of God. It is Daniel. In Daniel, it says that the three men in the fire were saved by someone who looked like one of the sons of God. Sons of God in Hebrew is Benny Elohim. and it translates into Greek as Anglos. It just means angel. Wow.

So in Hebrew, Benelaheim is angels. They call it Sons of God, but that's what they always called it. In Greek, it's Anglos, angels. So basically what the verse says, and something like an angel saved them. In the King James Bible, they take the plural away, and they say, and something that looked like the son of God came and saved them. So it's like, there's Jesus and Daniel. He's the son of God.

So what they're doing is they're unifying the Bible. so that it all is harmonized. They're harmonizing it. That's the best word to use. I mean, not Unified. They harmonize the Old Testament with the New Testament, and they harmonize all the Gospels, and they basically chose their translation that it becomes the perfect Bible, in their opinion.

Okay. So it's a good Bible to read if you're looking for a nice poetic Shakespearean Bible. Yeah, it seems like Dan was very, very, you know, it seems like he's pretty nuanced in a lot of the things that he talks about. Like he doesn't just go by the book when it comes to some of the stuff, like some of the evidence of stuff he's on. He's very critical. He's super critical. Yeah. And even with the stuff that he does online.

I was just talking to Derek about this because Derek wanted to interview me about my deep beef with Dan yesterday. And he's like, what's up? He's like, Dan's a good dude. Like, what's up? And it's like, no, I agree with you guys. I think he's a good scholar. He's very smart. He knows what he's talking about.

But he steps out of his element when he starts talking about Greek and Roman classic stuff. he doesn't know any of that shit like he doesn't even know how to pronounce Dionysus's name right Semile he says Samil like if you don't even know how to pronounce Dionysus his name, mother's name right why are you even talking about this stuff

and it's so obvious that he's out of his element like when you show up to Hilaria his face was like this yeah he didn't even never even heard of Hilaria before so why would you have an opinion on it if you never heard of it

and by the way you said something in that interview or he's you brought up the hilaria all you did was show him what was on um britannica you didn't even say anything about easter and then he's the one who brought up easter and goes the idea that easter has anything to do with this is nonsense you didn't even say anything yet so he was getting defensive already before you even said you think this influences easter you didn't even say that he just jumped to that conclusion before you had finished talking about hilaria yeah what does that tell you so he's out of his element sometimes he talks about things he doesn't understand because he's got the PhD and he is very smart,

but what it does is he's puffed up in one, because he knows a lot about one area, he gets puffed up in other areas that he doesn't actually know. That's my criticism of Dan McComb. And what do you think about, what is your current stance on the idea that the Old Testament was originally Greek? I don't, I, so I don't have the ability to test out which one came first.

If I had a guess, I think the most convincing is that the Torah was written first. The Septuagint was translated around exactly the same time. Like within decades, it was translated. After it was written. After it was written. I think the original text was, not even all of it, though. I think there are original Greek compositions of the Bible.

For example, Macap... Is it not Maccabees? Some of the Old Testament texts are written in Greek first. There's parts of Daniel that were written in Greek first. There are parts of songs of Solomon that could have been written in Greek first. There are Psalms that were written in Greek first back into Hebrew. Some of it was Greek. But I'm saying the Genesis, Leviticus, those books probably were written in Hebrew.

And then very quickly translated, they're all Hellenistic. They're all written in the Hellenistic period. That's my stance on it. Who's the guy you recently talked to that was explaining this? The guy, you did a Zoom with. Gad Barnet. And Janiton Adler after that too. We both talked about it.

Yonathan Adler went even farther. Yonatan Eather was like, yeah, it was probably written around that time, but they don't start practicing it until 150 BC. That's what he says. He says they're probably, they probably started writing it around the third century BC, and they don't start practicing it until 150 BC. Gad Barnea was like, it's so clear. Before 300 BCE, there's no mention of the Bible.

There's no sources of the Bible. There's no evidence of the Bible. After 300 BC, all of a sudden, the Bible is, everywhere. So, he says it's so clear the evidence points this way. Right. So that's my, if you have to ask me what came first, probably there's probably Hebrew scrolls first, individual Hebrew scrolls of Genesis next to Leviticus, next to Chronicles and Kings and the prophets. They're all individual scrolls. They're probably all there. But then they get brought to Alexandria and then translated into Greek and then it all gets compiled together at the same time.

Right. That makes the most sense to me. Right. Wild shit, bro. It is. We just did it over three hours. That was fantastic. It's fantastic. Fucking hungry. Oh, you want to do Patreon? We're going to do a Patreon. We've got some juicy questions from the patrons.

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