Danny Jones Podcast - #263 - Exiled Brain Surgeon: DARPA Mind Control, Quantum Biology & Sunlight Medicine | Dr. Jack Kruse

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

Watch this episode uncensored & ad-free on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Jack Kruse is a neurosurgeon who focuses on the study of physics, light, magnetism, and electricity. He ultimately concluded that modern medicine lacked a deep understanding of how humans function in relation to the natural world. SPONSORS https://lucy.co/danny - use code DANNY for 20% off your first order. https://ver.so/danny - use code DANNY for 15% off your first order. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off EPISODE LINKS https://x.com/DrJackKruse https://www.instagram.com/drjackkruse https://www.patreon.com/DrJackKruse https://jackkruse.com FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Making America healthy 18:23 - Dr. Becker & the body's electric current 28:35 - who built Las Vegas 36:04 - MK-ULTRA's blue light weapon 43:38 - Marshmello experiment 01:00:11 - Mysterious nuclear medical device 01:12:09 - Unconventional weapons 01:25:37 - The NEW MK-Ultra 01:35:14 - Funding black operations 01:43:14 - Why the deep state hates Trump 01:49:18 - Follow the money 01:54:25 - Rick Rubin 01:59:08 - Allodial money 02:07:43 - Uniting America 02:15:44 - JFK 02:28:42 - Saving Rick Rubin's life 02:30:54 - Dealing w/ death as a neurosurgeon 02:42:43 - 20-hour brain surgery 02:46:20 - Methylene blue 02:51:02 - Unconventional brain surgery techniques 03:03:50 - How the human body creates light 03:09:37 - Red light can repair vision 03:13:35 - Dom D'Agostino 03:21:31 - Blue light & testosterone 03:30:42 - Debunking health trends 03:32:18 - Jack's personal health protocol 03:37:30 - Why the human body works better in cold 03:42:14 - How humans will survive on Mars 03:48:07 - Neuroplasticity 04:01:40 - Making skin invisible 04:07:57 - Muscle is bad for longevity Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

All right, Dr. Jack Cruz. Wow, those are some wild sunglasses you go. What kind of glasses are those? This black blue light. Blue light glasses? Yeah. Those are pretty cool looking. Also, I love your hat.

Make America healthy again. Just picked that up in Dallas from Nicole Shannon. Oh, yeah, yeah. We were just talking off camera how you just came from Dallas. What were you doing there? Doing some work with both of them about current events. Current events. About Trump getting shot.

The day we did our big gig there with the Council of the Canceled. You know, I was there with Andy Wakefield, who you may know from the vaccine story. He was canceled in 1998 about the MMR vaccine. And I was there with Mary Bowden, who is an E&T surgeon that was just canceled by the state of Texas. She lost her ability to practice, and then she fought, then she fought the FDA. and then me because I've been a renegade for pretty much 20 years they've been coming after me to try to shut me up. So, okay, for people that aren't aware of you, can you give me just sort of like a brief background of where you come from and what your expertise is? Yeah, well, where I come from is New York City, but where I practice is predominantly in the south part of the United States.

when I was 40 years old, about 20 years ago, I had an awakening that everything that we're doing in centralized medicine was wrong. And then something happened to me where it kind of woke me up. And I was given a talk at, I guess, a minimally invasive spine meeting in Birmingham, Alabama. And I needed help to get at the podium because I tore a knee meniscus on my knee just from standing up. And one of the orthopedic surgeons' wives were there, and she worked for a biotechnology company. She goes, I know why this happened to you.

And she goes, I'm going to send you, you know, six papers and a book. And I want you to read the book first, and you can figure it out from there. What she was trying to tell me at that time is that big pharma, you know, was cooking the books. And it was about a hormone called leptin. Lepton was relatively new at the time. I didn't even learn about it in medical school because it was discovered after I graduated. and they shelved the trials. And what she was trying to tell me at that time was that big farmer was going to do something to kind of scam the public, you know, ruin the public's health.

And when they canceled the trials, they immediately went out and started to patent cold receptors and do some really bizarre things. And she knew there was something nefarious going on. And she said, look, my husband says you're a pretty smart guy. you've probably figured out. And that was actually the story that she wanted me to figure out, but I went a totally different way with it. The book she gave me was kind of interesting.

It's a fable. It's called The Monk Who Sold Us Ferrari by Robin Sharma. And in that book... The monk who sold us Ferrari? Yeah, the monk who sold us Ferrari. It's a good book. It's a fable. It's not a true story.

But she wanted me to read that because the story in there was important for the paper she sent me. It was about a guy named Julian Bowell. as a Jewish lawyer in New York, has a heart attack. He's a train wreck. You know, he's low dopamine, overweight, an asshole. You know, the classic, you know, stereotype of a New Yorker.

And he quits, sells us Ferrari and goes up to the top of the Himalay Mountains, comes back a year later, tan, thin, and actually filled with wisdom and actually a nice guy. And he comes back, you know, to his old world and this and that. And then she gives me the papers and I read the papers. And I thought she was trying to tell me is what was in the book, possible. That's not what she was trying to tell me. She was trying to warn me that they shelved the leptin trials because they had a new drug in development. They wanted me to talk about it.

And that's not what happened. So this is now six years after this, after I figured out that everything, that I learned that medical school is not true. It's really based on, you know, quantum mechanics. The physics of organisms are the key. Circadian biology is the key. Like, we are decentralized, meaning that there's no central controller. That's not what they teach you in medical school. It's not what they teach you in residency. But then six or seven years later, after talking to several people who knew her, I knew what she wanted me to talk about. So I decided to do a TED talk. about that very issue

and the TED Talk got canceled. It was... How does a TED Talk get canceled to get shut down on YouTube or whatever? Well, it was Big Pharma shut it down. Oh, wow. And the reason why has a lot to do, you know, what was in the book.

And, you know, you know current events now. You know about Ozempic, you know about the GLP1 drugs. What you don't know is that this was all preconditioned by the FDA and Big Pharma. In 1974, we had saccharine. In 1977, you have high fructose corn syrup.

All of those are GLP agonists, just so you know that. So they have known about this. And the FDA, when the last little bit was in, I believe, in 89, they approved sucralose, which is, you know, Splenda. And Splenda was only supposed to be in certain foods and drinks, and then they expanded it to pretty much anything that's a processed food. And that's one of the reasons why processed food is really bad for you because it's got an agonist for GLP1, so it's designed to make you fat.

And then if you have, I guess the best way to put it, if you have an indoor existence, which we all now have, I mean, you're a young guy. You don't remember what it was like, you know, when I was 20 years old, nobody was inside. Nobody had technology. No one had a microwave. of and no one had a cell phone. And technology, the one thing that it's done is brought all the

silly talking monkeys inside. They're no longer outside. Like kids rode bikes. They played. When you grew up, you're playing video games. We didn't have any video games. And it turns out that the non-native EMF, which is what blue light is, married with these changes that have happened in food, was the story of leptin. So I decided, because where I was going, the first six years of this, more on the light story, more on the other doctor that got canceled for the non-AidivMF story, which is a guy named Robert O'Becker. He's a orthopedic surgeon. So is this the guy who worked for DARPA? Well, he didn't work for DARPA? I heard, because I read it a book called from this lady who I'm friends with Annie Jacobson, she wrote a book called The Pentagon's Brain. She wrote this deep

story on the history of DARPA and some of the scientists that work for it. And she talks about this limb regeneration guy who was trying to figure out. That's Becker. Lim G regeneration for soldiers. Yeah, he figured it out. But the bad problem is when he figured it out, he actually figured out that and a whole lot more. And why he got canceled. In fact, that's the reason I just went to talk to, you know, Kennedy and Chanahan. Because his story is tied to DARPA, but it's also tied to the assassination. It's tied to how science was stolen. Becker is in the generation right after the science is stolen. And the way the science was stolen initially, that story starts in 1944. Really in 42. That's the Manhattan Project with General Groves and FDR.

And General Groves got the idea, let me finish the other story, because we're jumping all over the place here. Right. So anyway, the GLP1 drugs get approved by the FDA. So the FDA basically just created a market. This is like preconditioning all of the United States to have this problem with obesity. Now, people will say there wasn't a huge problem there, but if you listen to some of the tweets that Bobby puts out when Fauci got put in in 82, what the issue was with obesity. It was nowhere where it is now. But you need to realize that these things actually happened even before Fauci gets in. And then you have federal agencies that are already captured, preconditioning the market. Then you add in blue screen technology, which is what DARPA gives Google. That's Sergey Brin and

Larry Page and, you know, the chick that just died from Turbo Cancer with YouTube. You know her name, Susan. Oh, Sue that former CEO? Yes, she's one of the founders of Google. And you have to realize that Nicole knows all these people. She was married to Sergey Brin. So many of the things that, you know, I'm here literally two days after talking to them about all this, they were stunned. And the story with the TED Talk is I basically went up there to tell people that this Lept in Milano-Corn Pathway is exactly what the FDA and Big Farmer were up to. And then eventually, because when this talk was canceled, it's 2010, 2011.

This is five or six years after I have my come-to-Jesus movement at the foot of Michelangelo statue. So I decide I'm going to, you know, drop this nuclear weapon. Literally, within a week, I have the FBI and state medical board. Everybody coming after me and they talk to the people at TED and they pulled a TED talk. The TED talk was pulled for almost 10 years to bury the. the story. And you remember, you didn't know anything about GLP1 drugs. No. Well, nobody did until they came out like four years ago. So the reason why this is important, I was canceled before COVID because of this issue. And if you don't think this is a big issue, I mean,

just look at the, you know, the 13K from Novo Nordisk. It's a trillion dollar drug. So when When you begin to realize that light water and magnetism, those are the three things that NASA or SETI uses, you know, to try to find life on another planet. Those are the things that are tied to the decentralized network, you know, that life uses on this planet. And the GLP1 system that they're working with destroys the leptan-melanocortan pathway. And this is the reason why many of the chronic diseases that you hear Bobby talk about, you know, and all the of the surrogates that were in here, his program before, you know, he joined with Trump. Like, you remember the day we were just talking about the guy that you're having in here, you remember when Bobby gave that talk? Yeah. Mentioned the word Midecondriac. Well, what I call my people, mitochondriac. Mitochondriacs, yeah.

So you may understand where this linkage is. And then through the COVID things, that was another big story that I'm sure we'll get into down the pike. But I'm sure we'll start. I still. I still. I still started posting a lot of things through COVID being even more controversial. And everybody was saying, well, how's Jack Cruz able to post this stuff on Twitter when every other doctors getting canceled? Why does he get canceled? Right. People didn't know that one of my patients was Jack Dorsey.

Oh, really? Correct. So Dorsey owned Twitter at that time, and he told everybody you're not canceling him. He follows, he's followed all my stuff because of problems that he had with tech abuse, starting in 2010. So this is right back at the time the TED Talk is pulled. So this is now when the shots start to come out, the mandates come out, and President Buckelly in El Salvador notices within two or three months that they're having huge problems

with the jab, and he tells his guys in his administration, go find this doctor, go find the neurosurgeon from the United States that's saying all this stuff. And one of the things that I said that people need to avoid taking this job because I reviewed the patents. And I noticed in the Pfizer patents specifically, there was a movie that was held off on the side. It was called COVID Revealed. Me, Malone, and McCullough were in this documentary. And in there, I told people that there's two legal definitions, one for the Pfizer jab and another one for Bioentech. I said there's only one reason they would do that and it's nefarious.

The reason I believe is they were going to use one to get through the FDA approval process, but then the other one was going to be what they unleashed on the people. And I had an inkling at the time that the problem is going to be related to SV40. The reason for that ties back to the story that I was telling you before when I walked in the room is the cutter event. What happened with the polio vaccine in Jonas Salk in 1951 through 1950. And I happened to know about that in a very circuitous way because of where I did my residency. Did my residency at LSU and did medical school and my neurosurgery residency. And if you know anything about the cutter event, the city of New Orleans was tied to this event in a big way.

And I just went to Dallas to tell, you know, Shanahan and Bobby the whole detail of the story. Bobby and I did a podcast with Rick Rubin about a year and a half ago about this issue. This is when he first jumped into the race. And what people didn't know about at that time, after I wrote this constitutional amendment for Buceli, I shared it with Bobby and I shared it with this health care attorney who's Aaron Siri. And they called me back, I don't know, two or three weeks after that and said, hey, can we use several pages of this law as our platform for health care? in the United States. So I asked Bucheli and he said, yes. So that's the reason why you've heard a lot of the stuff on there. You know, most people know Bobby is an attorney. He sued Monsanto, got a ton of money. Right, right. You know, and he's done things for the environment and all that. But what I did,

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below. Now back to the show. Because it's that airtight. It covers everything. And when they decided to use it, he says to me, hey, I'm going to start this run for president. I would like to do you know, a podcast with you. Who's the person that sets this up? Turns out it's Nicole Shanahan. This is before she is actually announced as the vice president. Why did she contact me? Because of her daughter, Echo.

You know, she's got a daughter with Sergey Brin that's got autism. And she contacted me. And she goes, I've noticed that you have a totally different take on autism in terms of the vaccines and light. And you're probably now beginning to start to see that Becker's world and the vaccine world collide together. And when I say collide together, you are preconditioned by the light in your germ line. And then the vaccines are additive to it that caused the real problem. I said, yeah, I'm into it.

And you have to realize since I consider Becker my mentor, because he was the guy who was immediately canceled before me, So he's still alive, by the way? No, he's dad. He died in 2009. Okay. But I just got finished telling Nicole when I was in Dallas that I actually physically sat down and talked to him about what I'm talking to you about now. And he was the one that told me, he goes, you need to understand what happened to me. He goes, you have to be very careful about who you're getting ready to go against, and which was the industrial military complex.

And, you know, this guy was twice nominated for Nobel Prize. And literally, he was so frustrated with, you know, a lot of the stuff that I'm sure you have heard in your life as a podcaster that most people think is conspiracy theory. And it turns out it's really not. It's the truth. Right. He got frustrated. And then in 1977, he goes on 60 Minutes and tells the world the problem with non-native EMF. And you have to realize, my friend.

Non-native VMF? Yeah, that's wireless technology. It's blue light screens. It's fluorescent bulbs. It's RF microwaves. The whole shebang. 1977, nobody has a microwave on. Nobody has a cell phone.

And how did this problem with Becker kind of show up? It shows up because the military wanted to build this antenna called Sanguine in a lake in Wisconsin. What was the purpose of the antenna in 73? So they could keep control of all the nuclear subs all over the world. Right. Right now, before that, they couldn't do that. So they were building this thing and they hired Becker because of the stuff that you had just talked about that Becker was working on limb regeneration. And he found out that limery generation uses the electromagnetic force to do it.

In other words, the physics of regeneration is all based on semiconductor. That's the thing that was shocking about him. and how did I come upon his research as a resident at the same time? Why do I know about all this stuff? I'm a neurosurgery resident, and I'm doing a lot of spine reconstructions. Well, bone was the subject of Becker's work. So my mentor in neurosurgery, Dr. David Klein, said, Jack, I want you to do a project on bone regeneration.

I want you to use this guy's Becker work, because what he found in 59 through 67 was absolutely shocking. Most people still don't believe that that's how it happens, but I want you to present it to the residence. So that meant I had to go read all those papers. So I learned about this. And, you know, most people who listen to this podcast, what I'm about to say won't believe this, but it's axiomatically true. You don't heal bone ever. Bone regenerates completely.

So, for example, if you break your arm right now and you go have surgery and the orthopedic orthopedic surgeon opens it up and looks for where your previous break was, there's no scar. Really? None. It's one of the few tissues in man, well, that's the case. You know, most people know about it with the liver. You can cut half a liver out and it'll grow back. But we as mammals, especially the end of the line mammals, we don't have that ability in a lot of different areas.

So what does Becker do? He does a bunch of work to figure out actually how this happens. And it turns out we create a DC electric current in us that actually causes red blood cells in the marrow to de-differentiate. In other words, a red cell becomes a bone cell, and that is what heals the fracture. And it completely regenerates it so that there's no scar. So, of course, he writes all this stuff up. Then he finds out actually how this goes, like collagen and appetite that are part of bone are actually semiconductor proteins. He does experiments that show bone emits light just like an LED diode.

And just remember, this is going down in the 60s, bro. So that's how the military found out about Becker's work. Right. And he was the expert. Like he was the Anthony Fauci of his time in bone regeneration. He worked in the VA hospital in Syracuse. So he had huge government contracts. He was very, very prolific.

So in 73, when the government comes to him, they're like, look, we want to know, will this antenna, since it's going to use RF radiation, does it have any biologic effects for the people in the military or the people that live around it? Becker does the work with guys in his lab and he finds out it does. He writes a report in 73 to the Secretary of the Navy, and they were stunned with what he found. and he kept writing reports. The next thing he started to notice that all this stuff in the Federal Register never got published. In other words, the research went in,

but it never left DARPA. And no one ever did about it. So what did Becker decide to do? Now, I don't know where you're from, where your family's from, but I'm originally from New York City. At the same time, we have a governor in New York named U. Carey.

They're trying to get electric power lines go from the city up to 9. Niagara Falls to get more transmission lines. So Becker starts doing some work on these power lines to prove to the military that that freaking antenna in Wisconsin is a real problem. And he does something that's to this day, most people still don't know this. You know, they still think it's conspiracy theory. That power lines can harm you.

But him and Marino, who is the guy that was in his lab, he's a biophysicist, became a lawyer to defend Becker. They did a study on 765 kilowatt towers that are everywhere, even here in Florida. Cell towers? Yeah, no. These are electric. Remember, there's no cells at this time. These are electric towers for the power grid.

They changed the Earth's magnetosphere 80,000 kilometers above the surface of the Earth. They proved this in 1974, 75, 76. and not only did they write the military, not only did they give this information to you, Carrie, they gave it to all the electric power companies, and everybody was just like stunned, okay? So you have to remember, this guy is, he's like freaking Joe Montana of science at this time,

and no one is listening to him, because why? His message is very inconvenient. It's a truth, and it's a time where retorting, including our economy from an industrial economy to an information technology. So the power grid's a big deal. The use of non-native EMF, Intel, Microsoft, Google. This is all the precursor stuff at this time. The big company at that time, which you probably know, is IBM.

Believe it or not, IBM was already working on liquid crystal and displays that was using a lot of this stuff. And DARPA was involved in that too. So DARPA and the military sucked Becker in. They're fueling and fueling and fueling until the truth comes out. And what does he do? 1970. He's so frustrated. He gets on 60 minutes and he tells the world the truth.

He tells them exactly what I just told you. When I said it to you, your eyeballs got, you know, really big because a lot of people, even now, 50 years later, don't realize what he's. really found is that all of this shit has biologic effects. I don't care what it is. Like, you put those apple things in your ear. Dude, that's the stupidest thing you could ever do. I stopped using them a few months ago. I got the wired ones now. Yeah, that's not good. The wired ones probably aren't good either, right? No, because you're still getting jump conduction into your ear, which will bring you to my work. My work is the next level of Becker. Like, if Becker had lived, he would have looked for the source of the DC electric current. Well, we found.

it. What were you saying was the reason that Susan, the former CEO of YouTube, she had some sort of cancer? You'd think it had something to do with this? Well, I don't think. I know. Okay. She has a very interesting story. Her mother is named Esther. Esther is known as the grandmother of Silicon Valley. All the kids were tied to her. That's what I said. You need to really understand the metrics that we're talking about. And the reason why this is very interesting is because I'm entangled now to people like Nicole and people like Bobby. Bobby didn't know this, but Nicole does because she was married to Sergey Print. So when we started talking about this, her and I, obviously when she has a kid with autism, and she's a patent attorney for Google, and I tell her, no, I'm not going to help you because you're the person that actually caused the problem. And I have to tell you, I was not a nice guy to her. I mean, brutal to her.

Really? Oh, yeah. This is like probably a year and a half ago. And she offered me at that time $100 million to build a decentralized research facility with Buckelly down in El Salvador. And I told her, I said, bro, hold my beer. I'm not doing this. Why? Because I don't trust you.

I know who you were married to. I know things about Google. I know things about what Bryn's all about. I know the story, how it's tied to ARPA, DARPA, the internet, how you got the information. And you and your husband are the reason why blue light exists on every screen in this country. And that's what's getting your generation really sick. That's really where the chronic disease epidemics begin because that makes it way worse. And when I told her a little bit of the story, I said, do you really know where DARPA, the CIA,

and everybody got this information and then studied it. And she said, no. I said, well, I'm going to tell you where Echoes Autism comes from. It comes from the Jewish Mafia, okay? In the 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, the names that you know, Bugsie, which they made a movie about, Mo Dallets, who's the guy that started Vegas, and the big guy, you're right here in Tampa,

so you should know a little bit about Meyer Lansky. Meyer Lansky, you know, Trophicante. Correct. Well, Trafacconque. Tropic. No, but Traficante is really important because of how this ties in to JFK, Darfur. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

So you need to realize what happens is at that time, because I know you know probably a lot of the story. Cuban Revolution happens in 59. Cuba comes in. The Chicago mob, whose friends with the guys in the Jewish mob, through the Capone crime syndicate in Chicago, that was later taken over by, God, what's his name? Sam, I'm blanking on his name. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. But anyway, they go boom in Cuba.

They lose a lot of money. Who's the guy that's the accountant for this? It turns out that it's actually Meyer Lansky. And who's the shooter for all this is Traficante, and they're based here in Florida. So when that goes down, Mo with Johnny Rosetti, who's also part of the Hollywood scene, they get together and Mo says, I got an idea. Let's go build a casino in the desert. Everybody thinks he's crazy at first.

So they build Vegas, and it's like, it makes more sense to them to go to a place. What year was this? This is the 1940s. Okay. So this is- built a casino at the same place we're dropping all the nukes. Well, but that, believe it or not, that's where his idea came from. If you're familiar with this podcast, you know I've talked about Verso at nauseam on previous episodes

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money laundering comes from? No. Comes from Mo Dollards. Comes from Bugsie, comes from Meyer Lanski. What they use, the Jewish mob used laundromats to launder money to skim it to keep it away from the government. Oh, wow. Yeah, I think I have heard that before. Yeah. So that's where this came from. And then Moe and Rosetti and Meyer Lansky, they have the reputation. that's very different than the Italian mom. The Italian mob is kind of like guys that are going to shoot you up and it's kind of bloody. These guys are much more reserved, okay? And they're like accountants.

They really care more about the money and the business being sustainable of a long time. Well, they become very, very successful in the 1940s, so successful that something else is happening in the world that you probably know about. Albert Einstein worked with General Gross and the Manhattan Project. It's successful, 1945. So in 1948, the Jewish state that was still not made yet offered Albert Einstein to be the first president. And it turns out their military arm, which is known as the Mossad, actually have Lansky and Dallets. They're their guys in the United States, okay? Lanskin who?

Lansky and Mo Dahlitz. Really? They were massad agents here in the United States. So what do they do? They go to Vegas and they realize that there is no regulations. It's the Wild West. They build it from the ground up. Everybody in Chicago and the Italian fams are making fun of these Jewish guys doing this

because they're not bringing in the bank like these guys are bringing in Cuba. 59 happens and guess what happens? All the Italian guys get turned off. They're losing millions of dollars and they're furious. So you know they hate Castro. So what do they do? They have their friends, Mo. Mo has been working for 12, 13 years in the desert.

And what does Mo do? He steadily and slowly increases profits, but guess what he does? How does he do it? Does he shoot anybody up or do anything like that? No. The first thing he did is he put one-armed bandits in all the casinos. He blew lit everything. Why? Because he paid attention to how people spent money. He realized when you used artificial

light, it seemed like people spent more money. So then what's the second thing he does in like 1952-53? He starts painting all the windows in the casino black. So you can't see outside. Can't see outside and he doesn't want to go outside. Then that's the last thing he does. Gets rid of the clocks? Is that what he does? The clocks were gone already. Okay. But the best part is then he brings in girls scantily cladney starts giving people alcohol while they gamble. And what does he basically do? He creates an army of low dopamine idiots in the desert who they don't have to shoot. They go into their pocket and pay all the money to.

So of course, at this time now, after Groves is out, he gets Truman to change the OSS to the CIA in 47. The CIA knows exactly what Dalits is doing. And they know that they're avoiding taxes. So they decide, we need to go find out, is there any science behind any of this stuff? So where are we right now? 48, 51, 52. So you may have heard of this program called MK Ultra. Once or twice.

Okay. So MK Ultra is the merging of two things. The first thing gets merged is this idea from Dallas that they're going to study it. Then there's another guy who's a 1937 surgeon SS guy named Kurt Plotkin. Plotkin worked with the Nazis. His idea was mind control through the use of Mexican Pioti. So he starts doing his stuff and the CIA is looking at the effective light and wireless technology and things like that that these guys are using. And they begin to study it.

They hire a guy named Sidney Gottlieb. Gottlieb runs the program from 50 through. 53 through, which we think 64 before, of course, all these things are destroyed. But there's a lot of interesting things that the government finds out that is transferred to DARPA. When does DARPA first form? 1958. So all this information from the CIA and FBI are transferred into DARPA. DARPA then takes it the next level.

They go and they hire a guy in New Orleans. I told you we'd eventually come back to New Orleans. Guy named Alton Osterner. He becomes, he's first an FBI asset as a surgeon, but then he becomes a CIA asset because of this issue here. They go and hire a PhD researcher named Delgado, and he's working in the Tulane Neurosurgery Department and neurology. They get them out of that really quick, and they send him into Mexico, and they start putting wires into the bull's head to, find out, can they stop and control the bull using electric signals? Why? Because they already have started to learn about Becker's work. So now this is the idea. Now they're trying to execute.

They're trying to use this as a weapon. Got it? Right. So what happens in this whole time, the crazy stories that you've heard Bobby and I talk about on the Tetragrammaton podcast, where Gottlie basically takes the Air Force plane over St. Louis and drops LSD on the whole city. in the mid-1950s to see the effect. They found out Mesklin didn't work so the next step after that was to use LSD. That's one of the famous things that we did find out from the Church Commission

that they physically did. So this is what I would tell you is Operation Northwoods, probably negative 2.0, which is when the government thought it was a good idea that they could just do whatever the fuck they wanted to the United States populace, they wouldn't know it so they didn't need any informed consent.

Okay? A lot of people talk about Tuskegee and the airmen and the syphilis. Dude, there's a pattern with the industrial military complex. When they want to do something, they don't even ask for forgiveness. They don't ask for permission either. They just do it. So when they do this and God leave fails, what sight lines are really good for DARPA is this work that Delgado's doing is amazing. So they said, okay, you could do it with wire technology, and they were able to turn the bull off soon as he was going to spear the Matador.

They said, let's try to do this wireless. Why? They had all the patents and everything they stole from Tesla. They also had all Marconi's work. At this same time, remember, Motorola is now one of the guys that's the industrial military company. They know that wireless telephony is actually coming. So they decide to employ it here first. So Delgado finds out that actually it does work.

You can do it without wires. You don't have to do brain surgery on the animal to do it. And then they asked the next question. They didn't have to install anything in the brain? No. They did not. But this was the key step. This is the step where I think your audience, you,

people find it incredulous when I tell them, the next step was, could you do this using light and light alone? And it turns out they found out you could. If you use blue light specifically, it actually destroys the dopamine reward tracks in your brain. Just so you know, meta and Google today own those patents. Remember who's the Google patent attorney? Nicole Shanahan. So I said, Nicole, do you remember, remember all the work you had to do? And she goes, yeah, she goes, I could never figure out what all this was about. Well, you need to know a little bit about Google's history. Google was formed in 1995 when DARPA gave the search algorithm to these two cats from Stanford, you know,

about Stanford now, right? You talk to me about Uberman, why they don't want to talk to me. You started to put two and two together yet. Yeah. So the issue is, These guys created the internet. They connected all these colleges all over where the academicians were to share this information. So this information is going all around in this area. They basically then figure out and perfect the delivery of blue light technology through screens. Who is the big tech company in the 1950s and 60s that were doing this? turns out that's IBM and IBM is working on liquid crystal and displays and I remember this is in the 50s and 60s

you as a young man never saw those TVs until the 90s okay and then it got a boost from who Obama who made the analog to digital transition so that you'd have to use what LCD screens and then what else did he do we're going to ban incandescent bulbs why because incandescent bulbs not only have fake blue light, but they also have purple and red, which is what you need as the antidote to blue. They were banned? Yeah, well, the first ban was from Obama saying, we're going to get rid of these under the guys that they're not energy efficient because they burn too much. You probably remember when you're a little kid, you touched the incandescent bulb,

it's hot as shit. Yeah, yeah. Well, the proxy they're using to you is, oh, well, they burn too much energy. because they have UV light and red light in it, and that makes heat. So therefore, we should get rid of that, do blue. But you have no idea that DARPA and the government already want blue light everywhere so they can control you with it. That's the real answer behind this whole program. So what happens then?

Well, how do they control us by putting blue light in front, by surrounding making, our worlds are surrounded by these screens and these telephone, like these phone screens? How do they control us with this light? I just told you they control... By killing us? No, they control your dopamine reward tracks. In other words, they're dumbing you down. They're making you much more likely to precondition, which brings us to the other person.

We are dopamine slaves for the most part now. Most people are young people. Well, you're the guy that's in with Zins right next to you. I'm asking you if Zins are good. Yeah, I can't go anywhere without my Zins. I'm telling you it's a problem. But that's the reason why it's all starting to make sense. I'm trying to bring the picture together for you so you understand it.

So the chick you just asked me about, Susan, who started YouTube as a Google founder, what you may not know about, you ever hear the marshmallow experiment that was done at Stanford? When she was a child, remember, she just died. She's 56, okay? So she's a little bit younger than me. Her mother puts her into this program, which is part of the MK Ultra program, to precondition her mind. Every single tech CEO has been in this program, just so you know that.

So she goes through it and she actually performs better than anyone else. In other words, she will follow the rules and be very compliant. Sergei goes for it and so does Larry Page. So the marshal name of the program is called the marshmallow experiment. It was the second generation of the milligram experiment, which, you can actually look at. And what I'm trying to explain to you, there's MK Ultra 1.0 that we all found out about

when I was a young man. You weren't even born yet. That's through the Church Commission. Two things we found out there. Not only that MK. Ultra exists, but some of the things that are doing, but we also found out then that the CIA had 400 people in the media that they paid.

Dan Rather and Waltha Croncray. Right. Dan Rather and Cronkite being, you know, the key players there. So when you begin to start to see the timeline and all these stories come together, Well, Jicki gets the YouTube gig. What is YouTube? YouTube is a screen where you're developing videos. You know you're addicted to it right now.

That's what addiction is all about. Well, guess what? The other question I want you to ask yourself is a young guy that's supposed to be smart. Have you ever asked yourself why it is that every screen is that every screen is, comes out blue, they don't have red. You actually have to put software in to change it. You can, I got mindset to where like it turns red after like 7 p.m. Yeah, that doesn't work.

Look at mine what it does. That's how it should look. Whoa. Is that a special app? Yeah. So you can, you can, we'll talk about it after we finish this. Okay. The point that I want to make to you, the question you need to ask yourself,

why is it that every tech company has blue-lit screens? I'm going to tell you the reason why. because that's how DARPA wants it. They want you to be very addicted to the technology, so it's sticky. That way you can be programmed further. So, wow. It's even more wow than that.

You haven't even got to the wow stage. So what happens with this lady, she wound up being compliant, just like she was with YouTube. You want to know why all these people get censored. She did whatever DARPA, whatever the industrial military complex wanted. That's the reason why people were having their shit removed. If you want to know the reason why Bitcoin content gets removed

is because DARPA is not interested in Bitcoin. Because their energy to fuel their whole process is cheap, fiat money. Bitcoin is actually a nuclear weapon for them. Right. Because you can't print money to do all the covert shit they're doing. She goes and rolls her sleeves and takes a jab. She gets, you know, the turbo cancer. She dies literally very quickly within, I think, six or seven months.

Turbo cancer? Yeah. That's from the SV40 promoter that's in the Cubs. She gets screwed by the other part of the story we haven't got to yet. So when did she develop this cancer? She just died earlier this year. Yeah, but how long has she had the cancer? Like when did she get diagnosed?

Six months before she died. She got diagnosed six months before she died. She got stage four lung cancer. Answer, never smoked. Sounds eerily familiar, doesn't it, to Jack Ruby? Remember how he died? Oh, yeah, that's exact. That's... Oh, so why did I lead this way? Because guess what? I just finished. Tell him the story. Holy fuck, Steve, pull up the actual documented account of Jack Ruby, how he died. His name isn't Jack Ruby, just so you know. Right, I know. Jack Rubenstein. Yeah, exactly. And he also is a Mossad agent, just so you know that. Let's see what the Google machine says about Mr. Rubenstein. Jack Ruby.

Uh, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, uh, how, type in Jack Ruby, oh, you can't find his death. That's not, that's not him. He died, he died, he died right around when Garrison was doing, uh, right, right when, the trial, um, the trial, Jolly West. So after Ruby shot Oswald, Jolly West started visiting him in prison, right? But you know how he got the SV40 now? Wasn't that way. Let me tell you the the story so you get it. Okay. Because you really, we probably need to jump into the polio story. So you understand this part of it. Type in, search for cancer. He gets pneumonia while he's in Dallas. He's writing, he's writing the Warren Commission to tell them to get him out of Dallas because he knows Carlos Marcello is got a plan for it. Well, he's writing. He's writing the Warren Commission to tell them to get him out of Dallas because he knows Carlos Marcello is got a plan for him. Well,

He's going to use the bioweapon that they created on Magazine Street in New Orleans with Oshner. I just got finished telling this whole story in detail at Dili Plaza to Bobby and to Nicole and to their administrative team. And I have to tell you the guy that was filming and his eyeballs nearly melted. So. I feel like I're about to melt. It's a good story. But it's the truth. And the way in which you'll find out that I know the truth.

that's going to really blow your mind. But the story of Ruby is interesting. He is in Dallas. He's talking to the Warren Commission and says, you've got to get me out of Dallas and get me to D.C. because I know they're going to do something to me. He already knows what's going to happen, but he doesn't know how it's going to happen.

So he develops pneumonia in Dallas. All this is discovered by you and your guy back there. So the doctors come in and they give him penicillin flu shots. Turns out in that flu shot, was the SV40. He gets stomach cancer and dies like that. Just like your girlfriend from YouTube, and guess what? Why was that bio weapon created? That bio weapon was created by the industrial military complex and Alton Oshner to get rid of Castro. Okay? And guess who was the front for this whole thing. The mob was involved in this. Most people don't know this, but Carlos Morsalo grew up

with Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans. So he was one of the guys that was working for him, and Oswald was also in the CIA. So if you want to know the part of the story that no one has ever figured out is why did Oswald was able to go to Russia come back with carte blanche and never have any problem because he needed to be in a communist country so that Castro would allow him to bring this tainted cigar that he was going to smoke, get the SV40 and die. So that should ask the question in your head, Jack. Had the industrial military complex, the CIA and the FBI, all know that this thing was going to kill him that fast. Well, I already told you what happened to Susan. Boom. I already told you what happened at Rubinstein. Boom. Now let's get to the real story.

So, 1951 comes along, and you know the story about FDR. He's got polio. His lawyer starts the march of dimes. Kids are sending dimes, nickels and quarters to Jonas Salk. Jonas Salk makes this vaccine. He gives it to the pharmaceutical companies. There's four companies that he gives it to. But the one that you need to remember, because your boy is going to be able to pull it up,

it's called Cutter Pharmaceuticals. Turns out. Cutter. Cutter. C-U-T-E-R. No doctor ever learns about what a woman. I'm about to tell you now. Okay?

It's been whitewash from history. So here's the interesting part. Cutter Pharmaceuticals is in charge of growing this. Remember the date. The date is really important for you get. 1951. When was DNA discovered, my friend? 1953 by Watson and Crick.

So we're in the pre-molecular biology age. Okay. Cutter tells all the four pharmaceutical companies tell Saul, that his mix is very difficult to grow this vaccine. So what do they do? Salk says, I think we need to use a primate that's close to humans. Then we'll have a good culture medium.

So what do they do? They use the African green monkey. Okay? Turns out there's something they didn't know. Here's the good part of the story and getting ready to step, step into crazy town. they're able to grow the vaccine on the African Green Monkey. They use kidney cells that they grew it on, okay?

They create Salk's vaccine, and guess who's the first guy to test it? Dr. Oshner in New Orleans at the Oshner Medical Foundation, things that you need to know about Oshner. He used to be, he was a surgeon, he was very famous for being an anti-cancer guy. he used to tell medical students way back when that if this patient has lung cancer, I want you to come and see it because you'll never see another case in your life. That's how rare cancer was in the 1900s to 1920s. That's this guy's reputation. Where you're catching him right now in this part of his life?

He's probably in his 60s. He's the dean of Tulane Medical School. He's also the head of surgery after Rudolph Matas, who's a big, famous surgeon. in New Orleans that people today would know. Something interesting happens right around this time where he loses and gets thrown out. Do you know what it was? 1951, he brings the vaccine into the amphitheater, the surgical amphitheater, calls the entire

medical staff of Oshner. He brings his grandson and grandchild in there, and he injects both of them with the cutter vaccine. His grandson died in seven days of polio. polio. His granddaughter gets polio in her leg. She doesn't die. Okay? Everybody who's ever trained in New Orleans knows about this story. Now, younger doctors now, they don't learn about it. I was probably the last group of people, late 80s and early 90s. Do you know why? Ashner was already dead, but you know who was alive? His son. And guess where I did two years in my neurosurgery residency, my friend. Oshener Medical Foundation.

Oh, it gets better. Hold on. So I'm doing my first year of residency. And you know who's filming JFK in the basement of Charity Hospital? Oliver Stone. So it's going down right then and there. And here I am a dude from New York in the deep south, seeing all this shitstorm going around me. Do you know who my ER nurse was? Virginia Garrison, Jim Garrison's daughter.

This is the DA that put Clay Shaw on trial for the assassination of JFK. And no one ever made the links that I'm about to tell you. So I'm sitting there while this whole thing is going on my first year. And Virginia knows that in two months I'm getting ready to go to Austin. And she looks at me. She goes, bro, you better be really careful about what you do when you go there. she goes, because this guy's one of the most nefarious people you'll ever meet.

And I'm like, well, what are you talking about? And she starts telling me some stories about what her dad really knew because the guy that he wanted to put on trial was Alton Osterner. But they put Clay Shaw on trial. You have to realize something. In this day, putting Alton Oster

in New Orleans on trial would be like putting Fauci on trial in Washington, D.C. right now. You have no chance. of telling the story that I'm about to tell you. So remember, Oshner is the first ever National Cancer Institute doctor. I told you he's the anti-cancer doctor. So after he does this to his grandchildren,

he then turns around and tells the industrial military complex because that's who is developing this, that, look, we need to slow our roll down, we need to get this right, we need to fix the problem, so they casually turn all the science over to a doctor named Dr. Bernice Eddy at the NIH. Dr. Eddie does all this work from 51 through 53-54. DNA gets discovered. And guess what Dr. Eddie finds out? All the original polio vaccines that Salk came up with were all tainted with SV40. And no one knew it because DNA hadn't been discovered yet. So she tells everyone,

everybody in the NIH. She tells everybody in the FDA that this has gone on. And what does the industrial military complex do, my friend? They fucking pass the jab out to 300 million people in the world. And they created the whole epidemic of cancer. And guess what? Did the industrial military complex allow Bernice Eddy to tell this story to anybody? No. So guess what Bernice Eddy did. She got canceled before Becker, 25 years before that. What did she do? She gave a talk in, I think it was 1955 at the New York Academy of Sciences, and at the end of the talk, she drops the little nugget that I just dropped to you. That, oh, by the way, all the polio viruses were contaminated with SV40. And what SV40 stands for, for those in your audience don't know,

Simeon virus 40. So that means there was 39 other viruses that are out there. Okay? What do you need to know, my friend, about SV40? This is the only thing. Take a look at me. I want you to look at me and not that. This is the most important thing of this story. I'm looking. The SV40 promoter allows things to get across the nuclear membrane to get into where RNA and DNA is and do bad things. okay so what does the government do after Eddie

announces this to the freaking scientific world they defund her lab they take her out of the NIH she's lost to history here's the best part

you go look today at the FDA and NIH website you'll notice from 51 through 57 you don't see anybody's name when I tell you this is better than 2024 YouTube cancellation. You find no evidence of the Cutter incident.

You know why most doctors don't know about it? Because of what I just told you. So here I am training, I don't know, this is like maybe 27, 30 years after this event. And why do I find out about it? Not because I learned about it in medical school. Because Virginia Garrison told me what went down and then what did I do? I went to the medical school library and started pulling stories up. Then I went even further.

I went to talk to Alton Oshner's son, who's a cardiothoracic surgeon who happens to do surgery with us when we used to clip aneurysms. We used to clip aneurysms. We'd open the head, but we'd have to stop the heart to clip them. That's how long ago I've been a neurosurgeon. We don't do it like that anymore. So in one of those cases, it was a basil or tip aneurysm, J.O. is open in the chest. with one of his other doctors named Keith Van Meter. And J.O. is sitting there.

And I just casually tell my neurosurgery manner at the time. I said, I'm going to ask him about all this. And he goes, bro. I don't know if you really want to go there. But now here comes the part of the story that you're really going to shit the bet on. I have any shit left. I said, J.O. I said, is it true what happened with your niece and nephew about,

you know, the polio vaccine. He goes, and this is the crazy thing. This guy was a real chatty guy. I thought he would shut me down. Bro, he started talking to me for almost an hour and a half, two hours. And once he opened up about that, then I went for the nuclear weapon. And I mean this literally and figuratively. I said, J.O., tell me why is it that we have a nuclear device in the basement of a community hospital? It's called a Lenach. And who uses that? Linnecks are used to treat brain tumors. I said, I know you guys have done really well here. I said, but that's a $100 million piece of equipment. And I said, we can barely get new instruments to do spine surgery in this hospital.

So for people who are uninitiated. I'm going to go there. Just I'm trying to give you the punch in the mouth so you don't understand where we're going. So this is a device that is an electromagnetic device that delivers radiation from gamma rays all the way to RF radiation. You can just turn it down. No place outside of the nuclear regulatory commission has these devices at this time. So when I was a first year resident and I walk over to Oshner and I see a Lenach laying down on its side and it looks like a nuclear weapon, I'm going, where in the fuck did we get the money for this?

You know, and you know, it's cool. Most doctors say, oh, well, we have cutting edge stuff. You know, we can treat brain tumors and this stuff. But that's not where I was going with it. I was like, where'd this come from? So in this talk that I had with J.O., I had already been preconditioned by several of the people from the JFK movie and from Virginia Garrison herself.

And when she told me, she goes, there's more of this story that nobody knows that won't be in that movie that they're filming downstairs. So she was really good about going to St. Charles Tavern and talking, especially when we came off a shift. And I got her a little loaded. and she started telling me about this polio virus and monkeys and this, that, and the other thing. And I was like, well, I do know that we do a lot of monkey research at LSU. Because remember, I'm an LSU resident and we did have a monkey lab.

And I didn't, I was like, wow. And I knew Tulane had a monkey lab. So I'm starting to ask a lot of questions now. And what I find out is that Aschner was that when this went down with his grandchildren, children and this Bernice editing. This is a very short period of time. Three-year history. He goes from being an FBI asset to a CIA asset. Then the CIA, they ask him specifically, we want you to fix this SV40 problem. So what does he do? He goes out and he hires the world expert in viruses and oncology. Her name is Dr. Sarah Stewart. She trained University of Chicago.

You know where else is in the University of Chicago, right? That's where the nuclear program begins. That's the Fermi research lab. She gets her compatriot, who's a classmate, Dr. Mary Sherman, who's an orthopedic surgeon, who's an expert in bone cancer. He hires both of them. Guess what magically happens. Sarah Stewart is based at the U.S. Public Health Hospital in New Orleans at this time by the military. Mary Sherman is a staff doctor at Oshner Medical Foundation running the game here. They set up a bio-weapons lab, the first of its kind, on Magazine Street, in an apartment, and guess who the three people there are running it? A young girl who won a science project when she was in Florida. She actually is from Florida. Our name's Judith Veri Baker. She was very

interested in Sarah Stewart's work. And when she won this thing, Oshner pulled her and said, you're going to be the lab technician. She was promised a medical school education. She was promised a medical school education and a residency if she worked under Mary Sherman. Who else is in this motley crew? David Ferry. We'll talk about him in a bit. Who's the other person? Lee Harvey Oswald. So guess what Lee Harvey Oswald, Judith Ferry Baker, and David Ferry are doing? They are running the bio-weapons lab. What year again? This is 1962, 63, right before they killed Kennedy. So what's happening? Because remember, Oshner, how did he make all his money? So how did he get tied up in this whole thing so you understand? When I was a resident, he had this nice community hospital. It wasn't huge, but it's nice. Now it's a massive place.

But out in front of it, he had all the flags for all the dictators that ran central and South America. He used to take care of all them. They were all right-wing dictators. He was a right-wing politician. That's the reason the people at Tulane University threw him out of being the dean and the head of surgery at Tulane. So what did he do instead of getting pissed off? He said, fuck it. I'm just going to go open my own hospital to compete against you. So that's what he does. So how does he make it successful? He starts working with right-wing politics.

All these people come and he becomes enriched by this. The military is obviously very interesting. because they're the people that overthrow these governments down there. That's why he was an FBI asset. But when this shit hits with SV40, the CIA says to him, you need to fix this. And what do you mean by fix it? Meaning, you just, the government knows that they just started the war on cancer. Like, they gave the world cancer at record rates overnight.

Did they know this was going to happen? Absolutely. Because guess who told them, Sarah Stewart. She was the world expert that worked for the government. And when she heard what they did, she said, you need to hire Mary Sherman. You need to put both of us on this project. And we need to do this in clandestine fashion. In fact, the day that David Ferry gets killed, Sarah Stewart's lab book was found by Jim Garrison.

This is a very interesting story, my friend. Now you can start to see why this is all really intertwined. So what did they mean when they said you need to fix the SV40 problem? Meaning there has to be something that you can get that out of the genetic code. Okay. So what do they do? The CIA goes straight to the delegation in the United States Senate that controlled money at that time. Do you know who all of them were?

All the people in Louisiana. How do you like that? This is UEP Long's son, who's a state center, Hale Boggs. Remember he was on the Warren Commission? Yeah. Boggs is the head of the appropriations committee. So magically, Oshner gets a Lenach delivered to the U.S. public health hospital that's across the street from Children's Hospital on Henry Clay Boulevard. And it's standing up in a building that is only three stories from the street, but it goes three

stories down in the ground. And this thing is standing up like you would see a nuclear weapon, like in the planet of the apes, the first version. There's six targets that are pointing at the Lenack, okay? They start using small little mammals with the polio virus injected, and they start zapping it with all different levels of radiation to see if they can eradicate it. This should not sound crazy to you because that's exactly what oncologists do today, right? To tumors? But guess where the problem lies?

what did the oncologist, what did Sarah Stewart and Mary Stewart and the Motley crew find? The more they irradiated, the more lethal the SV40 became. In other words, it caused unbelievable cancer and it happened like that. So these tests kept going on, going on, going on, going on. And then what happens? 1959. Castro comes in. And you know that the FBI and the CIA, all that stuff that you've already

talked with Ian Carroll about and well who's the other guy martyr made you know the yeah I haven't talked to him but that dude he's the he's the academic historian and the other guy is like I would call the conspiracy theorist right Ian but Ian's he's not really conspiracy theorist a lot of what he believes is right but this whole thing nobody knows about what I'm telling you right now and how these things link because you know I even said to Bobby in the Tetragrammaton podcast. I said, what's the difference between fact and fiction? Fiction has to make sense. The story that I'm telling you right now, because I can see in your face, you're like, dude, this is the craziest story ever. I've never heard any of those stuff before.

No, you won't. Because I told you, do you think the YouTube stuff that you're going through now is bad? Do you think what, you know, the World Economic Forum and what Fauci's done is bad? Bro, you have no fucking idea. And that's the reason I'm telling you, I was wise to this when COVID came. Because I know this story. I lived it. It was in the beginning of my residency. And I asked questions. That's all I did. I want to know why we had a Lenach. I want to know why what's going on in this polio story. And then I said, I want to know why the primate lab was moved from LSU and Tulane and now it's sitting across the lake in Comington, Louisiana. Well, I got the answer through this story. Now I know the reason why. So what happens is Mary Sherman is radiating the fuck

out of these mice. They would bring the mice to Judith Ferry Baker who would homogenize it with Ferry and Lee Harvey Oswald. Lee Harvey Oswald was just the runner going back and forth. And they had to have a front for him and Judith Ferry Baker. What was the front? They worked on the coffee factory on Canal Boulevard. So just so you know, did I do my homework on this? I had Judith Ferry Baker at my house on July 4th, 2020, with the freaking receipts of them two working together. It's published in her book, but I didn't believe her.

I said, they were working together. And he was an asset in this program. Why? Because he was going to be the one to deliver this bioweapon in a cigar to Castro. That's the reason he went to Russia. So who's David Ferry in all this thing? David Ferry is a disgraced Eastern Airline pilot who was involved with the mafia training the people for the Bay of Pigs. He was here in Florida and he was in Lake Pontchartrain.

There's pictures of David Ferry and Oswald in Lake Ponsor train everywhere in New Orleans. But you guys don't know about it because it was buried by, guess who? The Warren Commission, the FBI. Right. The people that didn't want this story out, the only person that's still alive from this whole story is Judith Ferry Baker. She's like in our 80s. Wow. But she's written a book about it.

And I can tell you that there was parts of the book that I knew about it. There was things that I knew that I knew she didn't know. And there was something, this is really important. There was something that I knew Bobby Kennedy. If I told him, he would know that I wasn't full of shit. And that's kind of why I did the podcast with Rick Rubin and him. And when I told him, his eyeballs told me all I needed to know. So when this project starts, they find out that this thing can't be fixed.

In fact, they just made the most- The SV40. Right. They just made the most lethal bioweapon on the planet. So what does the industrial military complex do? What anybody does now with, you know, bad things? let's take it as an opportunity. So they develop it.

And that's where they come with the idea to take Castro out. Because at that time, the deal was we're either going to take Castro out or we're going to take JFK out. Why was the JFK thing a big deal? JFK not giving air cover to the industrial military complex for the Bay of Pigs really was a huge big deal. And there was a lot of people like David Ferry, if you read the book about him, dude, he hated Kennedy because, because all those guys, all those Cuban exiles that he was training with Oswald, they were all capture, killed. And he was actually a pilot in the Bay of Pigs invasion in 62. I interviewed one of them not too long ago.

There you go. Felix Rodriguez. So what happens is that Oswald never wanted to kill Kennedy. He knew what the situation was. If they didn't get Castro, they were going to have to do Kennedy. which goes to the beginning of this podcast. Do you know the reason why Castro always stayed a step ahead of the CIA and FBI? Traficante was a double agent.

And guess how? So this is where the story of the mob that very few people have put together. At that time, I just told you that the casinos go boom. So they lost a lot of their money. Right. Mo Dahlitz is kicking ass and taking names in Vegas. So the Chicago bosses, I'm still blanking on his name. Sam, it begins with the C.

His nickname used to be Mo Mo Mo. That'll show you. You may... Yeah, to find him, Steve. Sam, Mo Mo, Chicago. Yeah. Well, he's friends with Carlos Mosello. Marcello controls both Florida and New Orleans.

Traficante starts doing... deals with Castro, they started running all the drugs through. Giacana. There you go. Sam Giacana. I just couldn't remember the name. And he starts running drugs through Florida. And guess what?

The Italian mob finds out that this is more profitable in cancinos. So the reason why this goes down is he cuts a deal with Castro that I'll feed you any information I get about you, but you keep letting us run the drugs through New Orleans and and Florida. So that's where the mob gets involved with drugs. Nobody in the CIA FBI knows really why this is going on. So Castro was never able to be killed. I think that the CIA is on record saying they try to kill them seven, eight, nine times. They were always unsuccessful because of the link I just told you. So what happens next? They go, and this is the best part of the story. This is the part of story that really exonerates Lee Harvey Oswald, but the industrial military complex will never

allow you to know it. They have to test the weapon. Oshner knows that he has to test the weapon, so he goes to Angola prison. The same prison Johnny Cash is famous for going to singe. They find a guy on death row. They tell him they're going to inject him with something, but they tell him you're going to die anyway, whether it be by the gas chamber or electrocution or here, but we'll give your family money. The guy actually agrees to do it. They transfer him to Angola to a small little prison in Clinton, Louisiana, and you'll know why I know all this stuff,

and who drives up the bioweapon? They don't let Judith Vary Baker do it. They actually give it David Ferry, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Clay Shaw are in the car. Do you want to know why they put Clay Shaw on trial? Because he was seen in Clinton, Louisiana, which at the time in 1963 was a very black town. These are three white guys in a black Cadillac.

This is the same day that Martin Luther King gives his, I have a dream speech. And why is this a big deal in Clinton? Because they're registering black people to vote. And guess who registers to vote that day in Clinton, Louisiana? Lee Harvey Oswald. You'll be able to find it. So guess what happens?

This is how Garrison knew that Clay Shaw was going there. He didn't know what he was going to do, but he had an idea. So they go up to the prison, they inject the prisoner, he's dead within 10 days of cancer. So they get a positive on that. Guess what happens? Judith Very Baker finds out what they did through Oswald, and she goes fucking ballistic. She goes back and tells Ashtner. Ashner threatens her, says you're no longer going to medical school.

Who's Oshner again? Oshner is the guy that the doctor that started this whole process. Okay. The polio guy, the guy that injected his kids. Oh, yes, his grandkids. So he gets furious. She runs back to Florida. What magically happens next?

Oswald tries the attempt to go to Cuba to deliver the cigar. He's unsuccessful. Literally, is this when he went to Mexico City and tried to get to Cuba? Correct. Oh, my God. That's exactly right, bro. You're putting the dots together. I figured that you would once you hear all this.

But here's the funny part of the story. When he fails, he tells Judith Ferry Baker on the phone, but you can read about in her book, he says, they're going to kill Kennedy, and I'm going to be the Patsy. So the first attempt on JFK's life, believe it or not,

is actually in Chicago. Guess who foils it? Lee Harvey Oswald with a phone call to the cops. Tips them off, and they can't kill him. They try to kill him here in Tampa, too. Right. But this is a month before they kill him in Dallas. Yes.

So in Dallas, what happens then, you know, the famous meeting between H.S. Hunt, Clint Murchison, Nixon, the Bush family. Everybody's in this hotel in the Marriott Hotel. That story gets told by LBJ's piece of ass on the side. I think that got told in like 2008, 2009. I actually knew about that because that was some of the juice that was dripped out to me in New Orleans. And the reason it was important in New Orleans politics is because Lady Bird Johnson, again, this is how I fact-checked it to know it wasn't bullshit.

Clint Murchison, who was the first owner of the Dallas Cowboys, is an oilman. Him and Lady Bird Johnson bought all the real estate from Dallas to New Orleans because I-10 was built in the 50s when Nixon was the vice president. So Nixon told them where the road was going to go. and that's how they got tons of money. So when I fact-checked that, I was like, okay, this now is definitely plausible how all these people are tied together. Then the final thing that I did, after my residency is over, the U.S. Public Health Hospital gets decommissioned. And I knew that when all this shit was going on with COVID, I said, I need to go back down there and check the public health hospital out. I was fortunate because the same janitor that was there when I was a resident at Henry Clay Boulevard, he knew who I was.

And I said, I see they're renovating the building. I said, do you think I can get in there? He goes, dude, nobody's used that in years. He goes, you know, it's kind of empty. And I said, you remember the machine that was in there? I said, do you know where it went? He goes, no, no one ever told us this and that. The same machine is in the basement of Oshner.

That's what happened. and it was retooled by a technician so that it would lay down so we could use it for cancer patients. Wow. So how did I know the weapon was there? Two things. The first way I walked in, I found out there was three stories below the ground that you can never see. The thing that always was very unusual about this hospital, it has a huge wall. The wall's about 15 feet tall, like you would see around a base.

And it didn't make any sense to me. It had these big, huge metal doors because they didn't want anybody in there. But the most remarkable thing about this, when I got to the basement, when I saw the six concrete stanchions that were there, massive grounding plates. The grounding plate, the wall behind you from where that exit sign is to that corner, was that big and probably five feet taller. And there's two of these in there with massive electric power lines going in there. I knew what it was right away. It was the grounding metal for the Lenact because you have something they make 30 million volts. So you have to have something to, you know, get rid of it.

Yeah. So then it dawned on me, wait a minute. I know another way that I can prove that this shit was going on back in the 50s and 60s. I went to Entergy. Entergy is the electric power company in New Orleans. They have nuclear power plants, this and that. So I walked in there and I said, can I see this? the bills for the U.S. Public Health Hospital, you know, for these times. They're all covered by

redaction and government stuff. So I knew right away that I was right at ground zero when this happens. Now, just when you think the story's over, six months after JFK gets killed, David Ferry gets killed, okay? Jim Garrison. How did he die? No one knows. So this is how I got Bobby entangled into this. I'm talking about RFK Jr. So I would have no way of knowing this, okay, but I'm about to tell you. It's very public that Jim Garrison was at the crime scene because he was the DA in New Orleans. Ferry is found dead. He kept telling everybody in the French Quarter that he was going to die when JFK got killed. Why? Because he knew he told everybody they're going to kill they had to kill lee harvey oswald because

marcello was linked to him he was a key ruby was the guy to do it then they took ruby out as well so you could see everybody's dropping so judith was back in florida they couldn't found it the only person who knew she who she was was traficante and everybody thought for sure traficanti would get her but he never did and um what happens with ferry at his His death scene, Bobby Kennedy, Sr. calls on the phone. I should say, Jim Garrison calls Bobby Kennedy, Senior. Because Kennedy and Kennedy Senior and Garrison are talking. Why? Because Garrison knows that there's a conspiracy to kill JFK that began in New Orleans.

That, and he knows that Lee Harvey Oswald's got nothing to do with it. He knows that Oshner, Clay Shaw, He's putting pieces together, okay? The CIA, the FBI, they're bugging his office, so they knew he was getting close. That's why they try to make him look like a clown show. But this is the key point. When Garrison calls Bobby Kennedy, Sr., to tell him about what he found, guess who answers the phone? Bobby Kennedy, Jr., guess who knew that?

Me, and I told Bobby that in the Tetragrammaton podcast. I'd have no way of knowing that. Whoa. So that's how he knew that I wasn't a tinfoil cat guy. I was, I put this whole thing together. And I knew, dude, I knew about this from the beginning of my residency, and that's part of the reason that I went to talk to Becker because I knew his part of the story was tied to this part of the story.

And this is before COVID, but it's also now experienced. to you why I didn't trust anybody during COVID. When I saw there was two legal definitions, I knew that Pfizer was going to use the SV40 promoter, but I had no way to prove it, my friend. None. Because, you know, I'm not a molecular biologist anymore. I can't do those things.

I'm not doing research. I'm in clinical practice. But I knew. I knew what these motherfuckers were capable of. And when I saw that, I was like, okay, then the 2020-20-versy, version of Bernice Eddie comes to the scene. This is a guy you really should interview on your podcast. His name is Kevin McKearnan. You know anything about him? Kevin McKearnan? Yes. No, I never heard of

him. You need to write his name down because this guy, to me, is an absolute patriot and hero. So, Kevin, you need to know a little about his backstory because guess what? It ties to the Google boys and it ties to DARPA. Remember Craig Vendor? Human Genome Project? Yes. Clinton administration? told everybody humans are going to have 100,000 genes, chimps and monkeys will have 25,000 because we're so better than them, that blows up in his face. He's a transhumanist, just like the guys at Google, just like Bogisky, just like everybody in Silicon Valley. Yeah. So.

The transhumanist thing is bizarre. No, it's not. It actually makes total sense, dude. These are all people who have been through the marshmallow experiment, bro. They're all been zapped by the industrial military complex. We ain't done yet. Take a drink of your liquid death there. I need that.

I need one of these. So the transhumanist thing, I always thought it was a scam. No. Oh, no. It's actually evidence. It's evidence of MK Ultra 2.0, 3.0, 4.0. But guess what MK Ultra is called today. Do you know?

Any of your conspiracy boys ever done? I had no clue. Brain health initiatives set forth in 2013 by President Obama. Do you know where it's based in Central and South America? Isn't that funny that it's in the same places where you can't find it? And do you know where it's hidden in? Places called Centers of Excellence. How do you know that I'm right?

Do you remember the story I told you about Sidney Gottlie before? In MK Ultra 1.0 when he took LSD and dripped it down on St. Louis? Do you know who sponsored that experiment? Washington University and the U.S. Navy? That's also discoverable. know where Washington University is? Washington. St. Louis.

It's a major medical school in St. Louis. They were part of it. Do you know who sponsored the Brain Health Initiative? Washington University and the U.S. Navy. How do you like that? Are you, did you put this together by yourself? Yep. Bro.

No one else is talking about this? Uh-uh. Just so you understand why. What do doctors do? Especially good doctors? They're diagnosticians. They take a mystery and a patient to try to figure out what's going on. This mystery, I've been picking out clues and breadcrumbs for 30 years of my medical training.

And I don't fucking forget anything, bro. You see, I'm doing this all from my memory right here. Do I have any notes in front of me? No. And the only thing I blanked on was the dude's name from Chicago. Right, right, right. So this story isn't finished yet. So the brain health initiative comes in.

This stuff is being done in places right now. Many of the things that you're seeing in the transhumanist movement is actually being done. So now you may start to understand why we have an open border. All the people that have been through these training programs in Central and South America, are being let into the United States and they're being deployed in a very specific city. So you wanna know why Springfield, Ohio, has who they have there.

Do you wanna know the reason why? People are being brought into Alabama. There's a reason, my friend. Do you understand the game that's going on? Why are they specifically bringing people into Springfield, Ohio, and Aurora, Colorado, and all this stuff? Like what's the significance of those places? What would a transhumanist do?

Does the transhumanists really have any care about the people out of here? Or do they want their people that are easily controllable in? Like, did Sujan Wajitsky? Wait, wait. My definition, I thought the transhumanists were just like, where people who were going to get their brains frozen after they died. No, they're more than that, my friend. They're the same people like Bill Gates' dad.

They're eugenists. They want to trim everybody. they're not interested. Like if you sat down and talked to Nicole, she will tell you stories. But the reason I'm paying attention to this is you need to realize I pay attention to all of the families of the big Silicon Valley people.

Why? Because they are all tied to MK Ultra 4.0, 5.0. Every single one of them. And there's a reason they follow the rules of the industrial military complex. because they're designed to do that. Okay? And guess what? They get that training at the universities that they went.

Stanford, Harvard. Just remember where all these people come from, my friend. Name any of them. Is this why you moved out of the country? Pretty much. And look, I've been saving this for 30 years. And I believe we're in the ninth inning that if November 5th

goes the wrong way that we're Venezuela we are where Venezuela was in 2005, 2006 and Chavez comes in and they take our guns. Kamala's already said she wants the guns.

My problem... She changed it in the debate. She's still fucking full of shit. You know it. Here's my problem. 55% of the United States population has been M.K. Ultrad through the screen technology. So they're all obedient idiots. So here's my

position. This goes very proximal to what Anne Ryan wrote in Atlas Shrug. If we ever get to a point where it's mob rules, which is exactly why the Democrats always say democracy and not constitutional republic, bro, this is the problem. And I believe we're here. And you know, you and I are in Florida right now. I haven't told you this. I have to come back one more time to vote. And I vote in Florida. Oh, do you go here? Yes, I do. Because I have a clinic in Destin. And when I talk to Bobby about this, he goes, look, I need you to vote for me. Even in that state, he's changed his tune after he joined forces with Trump. Now he wants me to vote for Trump. And I reiterated that literally two days ago and Nicole. I asked Nicole straight. She goes, nope, we want you to vote for Trump.

My nurse, who you spoke with, Chantal, Nicole told her the same thing, we want you to vote for Trump. Not for Bobby. No, because now... Well, he dropped out, so... Well, but the thing is, there was a talk that he needed to get to 5% to get the third party, but now he realizes, I think, how serious the situation is. So the podcast that I told you to listen to before I came on with you was the Alexis Jasmine podcast. Yes. I made a prediction in there before it happened. I said, they're going to come and get Trump again.

And guess what? The day that we did the live X event with Nicole, that happened. The golf course. Right. That happened right then and there. And I'm telling you right now, they're not done. I expect at least two to three more times because guess what? The only way to ensure the next step of the plan, because what is the real story of COVID?

COVID is not what any of you think. COVID was an, it's a compliance test for a coming economic reset. So remember I told you earlier at the industrial military complex, it's energy, the source is cheap money. Cheap money is how they fuel all of these things. So parts of the story that we glanced over that I'm going to tell you that I actually told Dr. Alexis, these parts are really going to infuriate you. So I told you how we got the money laundering thing through drugs and how it started with Castro and Traficanti. What if I tell you that the war on drugs part two started with the Iran-Contra affair with Ronald Reagan and Oliver North. The story that you've believed as a young boy was that it was about running guns to Nicaragua.

What if I told you it wasn't that at all? It was to make sure that the industrial military complex captured the pathway between the Colombian drug cartel and the Mexican cartel so that they could deliver opiads right into the United States. Fund black ops. Right. And that's exactly what Iran Contra was all about. It's a not a pile of money. Okay. So are you familiar with Danny Sheehan?

No. Harvard lawyer. He was a, he worked on the Iran Contra case, the Pentagon. On Paper's case, the Watergate case, all these cases, he came in here and basically elucidated all this stuff beautifully. But he's the one, who's how we got my education in this? All right. Well, perfect. Then I don't have to go through it again.

No, no. It's, no, keep, I don't mean interrupt, but I just want to me. I just want you to understand what the goal was. It was to create a pile of money. So what has the government done? First Social Security they stole. Okay. Then you have Iran-Contry.

You know when that goes down. That's another pile of money that they start the war on drugs. The government is fueling this because they need the money to run black ops. Right. Here's the big one. Who gets hired in 1982, my friend, and in the same time? Anthony Fauci. Okay.

By Reagan. What else happens right down and there at that time? You might remember somebody in the industrial military complex came up with the idea, how about we have Americans donate and to their own retirement called the Roth or SEP IRA? So we can create this huge pile of money that. the Treasury and the Fed will watch, which has never been audited to this day. So what did they do? They came up with another plan through Congress so that now Americans put all their retirement money in so they're able to launder that money too. So now let's do a hard stop because I'm not, I haven't

talked to you about this at all. I don't know if you're a Bitcoin or not. Maybe you can understand now I don't pay like a close attention to it, but I don't understand I own some. You will after what I'm about to tell you. You're going to change that in a lickety split minute. So all this money is sitting in there. No one's able to audit it. So fast forward, I don't know, 20 years ago, you heard about a guy named Bernie Madoff, right? You know about what he did.

How did he get outed? the owner of the New York Mets at the time, Nelson Doubleday, put some of his money in there, and he asked for it back when he was going through financial hardship, and that's what took Bernie Madoff down. Bernie gets thrown into jail, but guess what also happens? The government realizes as soon as Madoff goes down, if anybody starts asking for money back, they're going to have a problem. So how old are you? I just turned 37.

Beautiful. So I want you thinking about your mom and dad. they're boomers like me. Who is going to be all these people that opened up Roth IRAs starting to retire right about now? What happens when you taper a Ponzi scheme and people start taking their money out? Collapses. Have you ever looked at the rules for Roth? Oh, you don't have to take it all out all at once.

Just take a little bit out of time. I'll let you go all the way to 70. So go look at the years the boomers were built. The last year is 64. So you're saying the boomers are taking... Hold on. Let me finish. I'm developing this idea for you.

So in Bitcoin, we have guys like Max Kaiser. We have the big Bitcoiners. They always say, Lawrence Lepard, you cannot taper a Ponzi scheme. Why? Because when people want their money back, it causes the house of cards to collapse. Yes. What if I told you that the industrial military complex figured out how to taper a Ponzi scheme with a cut? You're slowly going to take people.

out who were complied. So you don't have to pay them back, bro. And guess what? Why does it make sense? What do you know about U.S. tax law? When people die that have a lot of money in a Roth or an IRA, don't they have to pay estate tax, 55 percent? So who's getting the gravy? The government's getting that money back, bro. So guess what? Do you understand now why we started this podcast with Susan and the turbo cancer? And yes, I took you back 50 years and showed it to you and Jack Rubinstein. And what's happening now that Kevin McKearnan has proven? Kevin McKiernan does the test, takes unopened, expired vials, and fucking tests and finds

SV40 in a jab 50 years after the polio massacre. Do you understand, bro, what's really going on? Because let me tell you something. I'm teaching you right now about the Dunning Kruger effect. When what you don't know turns out to be the most important part of the story, everything you thought you knew goes, so my friend, that's the real reason why I went to Dallas two days ago and spoke at Dealey Plaza and laid this whole story out on tape and told everything I know and every day. detail because if I happen to get taken out by acute lead toxicity, I want a young guy like you

who's doing this podcast to make sure you go fucking fact check Uncle Jack. But I promise you, I'm not going to let you down. Every single one of you out there needs to know what I'm talking about. These are the biggest fucking criminals in the world. They make Adolf Hitler look like a street gangster. They've killed way more than four million people. And they're not done. They're looking to completely take out millions of people slowly over time, all different kinds of ways. So don't think it's over. What did Fauci and the Bai-Dolak and the vaccine law really do? Gave them the most impressive bio-weapon ever, and no one in the legal profession can sue them because they have immunity.

Right. Got it? Right. Yeah. Understand where we're going now, bro? Oh, yeah. Feeling it? I don't want to believe it.

It's fucking terrifying. Well, guess what? I want you to be wrong. But guess what? This is a guy that does podcasts to talk about conspiracies and all of a sudden, when you start to realize that all the conspiracies that you've done your homework with other guests, but when the dude comes in here and puts it all together and you sit there and you go, what did I say to you in this podcast?

Like, he needs to make a clip of this. What's the difference between fact and fiction? Fiction has to make sense. There ain't nothing about this that makes sense. But guess what? No, that's totally right. You're totally right about that. Every single thing that I've told you, you can now fact check.

Do you think that was true? When this started out for me in 88, 89, 90, 91, 92? Nope. When did I know I was right? Right. Dude, this program ain't going away. And I've already told you where they're being tested now. Remember the black guy that was on death row in Clinton, Louisiana? Now it's all people with brown skin that are in Central and South America. That's what the brain health initiative is all about. See, that's the execution part of the plant. And then they're creating a military to bring them up to the United States now. So you're having all these crazy bastards that have been programmed. Now, led into the United States and made citizens, guess why? Not only the replacement for you, which a lot of the black folks are starting to wake up to, but they're going to be controllable replacements.

This plan has been in since Tavistock in 1921. That doesn't make sense. Oh, yes, it does. Why would you want, if you're a country, why would you want to do that to your population? The biggest thing that makes- Because our constitution for tyranny, treason, Death. If you know about this and that Constitution is in law, what is the goal of the industrial military complex? You want me to distill this down for you so it lands? They want to replace the

U.S. Constitution with the U.N. Charter. That's what they want to do. Because then they have free reign. They then control the executive and Congress, but what branch don't they control? You You know why they went back into the plan to kill Trump? Because he put two guys that are Fourth Amendment experts on the Supreme Court. Do you know why you can't get a CBDC through now? Because the fucking Fourth Amendment blocks it. That's the real reason, bro. That's why they hate Trump.

That's the number one. It's about the only thing Trump did his first term that I'm happy about. Everything else, he basically is a fucking idiot that let all these people around them. I mean, just to explain this to you, how pissed off I am about this, he put Steve Mnuchin from Goldman Sachs as his Treasury Secretary. Right. Right then and there told me, you're a fucking moron. Because that's letting a barbarian in the gate. Then what does he do?

Lisa, the CIA lady who burned up all the documents for... Exactly. But think about Jeff Sessions. It took him two days to turn. Think about Comey. Dude, every single person around him. So when you probably can tell him, I'm not really a Trump fan,

but I told you I'm voting for him. Why? Because Bobby is now part of the team. Bobby knows, look, Trump wants to drain the swamp. You know what Bobby knows? He knows where the drain plug is. That's what we need. Because let me just tell you some.

Everybody in the Joint Chiefs, everybody in the Industrial Military Complex, everybody in Congress, there's people that are sitting in Congress right now that need to be for treason. Okay? They allowed this to happen. And we the people,

let me just tell you something. When Thomas Jefferson and James Madison wrote in the Federalist Papers, why the fucking Second Amendment is what the Second Amendment is? You got to remember, it wasn't for hunting. It wasn't for school shootings. It was to protect us from our government. Exactly. Yes.

And guess what, bro? We're here. We are here. They actually, used. If you want to know the story that you, I don't know how much in other podcasts you developed. Let's talk about what really happened with JFK. Real quick, can we, I want to basically summarize what we were trying to talk, what you were explaining to me earlier about the VALs and the SV40 and with Roth IRAs.

So essentially the, what happened with the COVID-MRNA vaccine was it killed and people mainly elderly people, right? People that were like 50, 60, 70 plus with multiple comorbidities. Didn't affect kids. That's actually the front story they want you to believe. That's not true. You know who's dying now? Guys who are influencers that have big muscles and young like you because they all complied.

That's who's getting taken out. The boomers are getting taken out too. But COVID wasn't the real problem. It's actually the treatment of COVID, which is taking you out. Right, right. And they know, how do they know who took it? Do you know who went through the marshmallow program? Sergei Brin's first wife.

Do you know what she does? Epic. That's the electronic medical record of the whole system so they know. Do you know who runs 23 and me? Is it the CIA? No. Sergey Brin's ex-wife. This is, just so you know, the girl that you're...

Not Nicole. Oh, the girl that your guy just pulled up. Susan? Yes. Her sister runs 23 and me. How do you like that? I don't like that. That's crazy.

Well, guess what I'm trying to tell you? They have the data. They're the data collection. Remember I told you that these kids that run these programs, all of them are being controlled by the industrial military complex. Dude, this has been planned all the way from when General Groves left in 1947. You know what his parting gift was? turning the OSS into the CIA. They've been working with General Groves

when he's outside the government. And do you know why he was forced outside the government? Because Eisenhower hated his guts. And what did he do? He formed a militia outside the military and they got powerful. So powerful that they got all these companies in Texas, Illinois, and California

to work as part of the industrial military complex and the government kept paying them and paying them and had no idea what Grozer's really doing. And if you don't think Grocer's a smart guy, just remember, 1942 to 1945, he takes Operation Paperclip. Alan Dulles, sound familiar, goes and harvest the best scientists in the world, brings them to the desert and they make a fucking bomb in three years that nobody could believe. Guess what?

So if you think that they couldn't do something like this, they made the atomic bomb in three three years, bro. Right. That's how fucking talented these people are and that's how smart they are. And everybody who works there, these are not stupid people. They have

an army that they've trained. And that army is based in big tech. And they are carrying out these attacks constantly on the American people. And you guys keep drinking Starbucks coffee watching Netflix and getting

dumber by the minute because your dopamine levels are getting destroyed and you don't put it together but dude I'm laying it out for you I mean it's all there in front of you it's time for you to shit or get off the pot this is what I tell people but like this is my my biggest thing I understand what you're saying I understand that the government wants people to be controllable that makes sense to me that's why kids go to school for eight hours a day what and now we irradiate and what Wi-Fi right But what I don't understand is why do you want your population to be obese and basically physically useless? Because it makes it easier to kill them.

But if you want to maintain... They're all owed money. If you want to do that... They're all owed money that they stole already. You still haven't got it, that the story always comes back to money. You're talking about the IRAs. Dude, I'm talking about everything. We're 30...

Look, I don't know if you know this. Yesterday? I'm trying to remember what his name is. I'm probably going to, oh, James Lavish, she's another Bitcoiner. It's got a tweet out there. Yesterday we crashed the Rubicon of $35.3 trillion. Just so you know something. Listen to this.

If we were to pay back a million dollars every second, it would take 4,023 years to pay back that money. So let me ask you a question. When you see a lavish tweet like that and you think about where we are, How do you solve that problem, dude? Got it? No, I got it. It makes sense what you're saying. I totally get it.

I know it makes sense, dude. I'm a brain surgeon. I'm not a dumbass. But what I'm telling you... But I am, and it makes sense to me. No, but you're not a dumb ass because I'm going to tell you why. You've been nibbling at this problem so many different ways. You're like a great white shark on this whale.

And you keep biting at it. You keep bringing all these people in your... You know the bits and pieces. What am I doing? I'm giving you the final touches on the sculpture. So guess what? I need you to realize that you got to keep doing what you're doing. Like, you now are the media.

Let me explain to you why the media is gone. The media is gone because of general growth. Let me tell you exactly what their plan was. They decided to abscond big science. Their plan eventually was to use big farm of money to start do advertising on the media. So what did they do? They made them all employees.

Do you know how they came up with that idea first? They did the same thing to doctors in the 1980s. That's the reason why HMOs came up. Because what do they do? They put the government between us and our patients. They did the same thing with the media. And they did it 30 years before. Bro, these people are brilliant, Danny.

I'm telling you they really are. And the thing is, all I'm doing with you guys today coming in here straight from off the plane, so I'm putting some wind decks on your glass eyes. That's all I'm doing. And I want you to understand truly what your world is all about because you said you got kids. I don't know the cat behind the screen back then. That's what I'm saying. And I want you guys to understand that I don't want you to be bullshitted anymore.

Like I always tell people, half truth always leads to a full lie. Like all the people that you've had in here They didn't know bits and piece of the story But you know why? It was by design The industrial military complex Cannot let you know all this stuff Because if you knew it

You would fucking take them out in a minute These people are more nefarious than King George was in 1774 Right, right. That's what I'm afraid of They're making fucking Hitler look like, you know, a gangster I got news for you, bro These people are bad Like really bad and until people wake up and see this, like, I'll give me an example.

Don't you think it's unprecedented that a Kennedy and Nicole Shanahan, who's probably the most liberal Democrat ever, are fucking joining with Trump? That's pretty insane. Well, dude, for 18 months, I've been in their ear. In their ear. Why do you think I went on podcast? When I came in here, you said, you just been. binged the Uberman podcast.

And what did I say to you? Yeah, it was a good podcast, but Rick wanted me to do it to teach Uberman, but guess where Uberman works? Stanford. Right. That didn't go well, did it? I thought it was great. No, but Huberman cannot examine the things that I'm saying because of this podcast here.

I cannot believe, well, now I get it, but before we came in here, I couldn't believe that you haven't actually been on Huberman's podcast. No, but there's no chance that Stanford ever allowed that, bro. plus they know that I'm talking to coal I mean when I wrote I always thought Huberman was a plant anyways well I don't know if he's a plant I think he's a useful idiot for science

because he's all about captured science and the way he sells science and his friends that sell science it's all for the benefit of the paradigm in power and they're happy to keep collecting the money you know that's why you see me pound on Peter Atea and why pound on

I don't pound on Uberin anymore because I realize what he is and, you know, he's a good friend still to Rick. But I have to tell you, Rick is, Rick, Rick's the same age as me, and we kind of grew up in New York together. You guys been friends since childhood? No, no, no. We got to be friends when I helped fix his own issues, you know, being 400 pounds and wearing sunglasses a night. But the thing that Rick is, he's a boomer too, that is sick and tired of being able to.

lied to as well. Right. You know, and he's a lot like probably you guys. He likes the conspiracy theory, but, you know, he tells you, you know, when I started giving crazy a chance, it actually really changed my life. And he goes, now I don't think anything's crazy. He goes, I just don't have enough information to know if it's bullshit or not. Right.

And he goes, the more I keep digging, the more I begin to realize that this is a big deal. Like when I told him this story, before I sat down with. Bobby Kennedy, you should have seen his face. Oh my God. I mean, this would melt. This is, you know, the information that you're letting out right now is enough to melt anybody's brain. It's insane. It's literally sounds insane.

And that's quite literally what the military industrial complex and organizations like DARPA have been doing since the 50s is things that are completely wacky and insane. Like MK Ultra. and the things they were doing at the Hayd Ashbury Clinic with these experiments with LSD and amphetamines and with Charles Manson. I don't even familiar with Tom O'Neill. He wrote a book on this. Well, actually, somebody actually from Twitter, after you announced that I was coming on your podcast, somebody said, I need to do a podcast with Tom O'Neill. He said, you guys would be. Oh, my God, he's amazing.

Yeah. He said you guys would be right up each other's out. But no, this is the crazy part of my story. I don't know these people that you have had on. But the part that ties all this together is how General Gross stole big science and how it links to everything else. Because it ties everything together. And what am I trying to point your audience to?

It's money that the problem is. They need that cheap money to continue to go on and on and on. And they need the government to continue to provide. it. That's the reason the CBDC. Look, American money's failing. And they knew it was going to fail from when Nixon did the Nixon shock in 71, when they removed, you know, gold from the gold standard. What did you hear, Danny, just literally four or five weeks ago, Bitcoin Nashville in the summer, both Bobby and Trump came in and said, we want to make Bitcoin a reserve asset. This is not music to the industrial military complex ideas. And that's why I'm trying to tell you,

that literally I made the prediction two years ago on Clubhouse. That's an app where Bitcoiners hang out. I remember it, yeah. I told a guy named American Hoddle that they would kill Trump or attempting. And they're like, no, bro, there's no way. If you remember, Gerald Ford said after the Warren Commission that we're done doing that kind of deal, bro. He got his ear pierced. Yeah.

And then they just try to do it again here in Florida. Right. So how many times, like I don't want to tell you my predictions are, you know, a profit, but dude, that tells you that I'm over the target. I'm telling you something that you need to hear. I don't care if you don't believe me. But what I'm saying to you is understand what I'm saying. Research what I'm saying. Look at all the pieces and parts.

Understand how they explain world current events right now. How we can have what we just saw in the debate. Now that we know the two people on the debate, one of our sorority sisters are feeding her the information. Dude, this is exactly how it works. Who's paying for those two people's salary? Big pharma. Put on any fucking station. Is it true?

I heard that the two people that are the biggest donors to Trump and to Kamala are Peter Thiel for Trump and his vice president. Right. And Eric Schmidt. Yep. Google. They're both close. Right. And they're both the representatives for the U.S. and the Bilderberg summit.

Yeah. And I'm also going to tell you, not only Bilderberg starts with Tavistock in 21, then the trilateral commission through the Rockefeller years and the committee of 300. Dude, you're banging on the right drum. Do you know what I want to teach you before I leave here? Do you know the synonym that you need to start using for Bill? I'm the Lederberg or the Rothschilderberg. It's called Alloydial Money. Pull that out on the screen so he can see it. Alloyal money is money that has no superior, meaning there's no title. You know who that starts with? That starts with the papacy and it starts with the royal family. In other words, nothing can be taken from them. Do you know what people have? See, a loitial title. Look on that.

So do you know what that means? There's only one other thing that's ever showed up in your, 37 years on this planet, that's alloyal, that's Bitcoin. And that's why they're coming after you, bro. That's why they're coming after this money. I'm going to tell you right now, what do we say in Bitcoin? When you have your own stack, they can't fucking take it from you. And this is the only thing in the world that's like that right now. If you're not the Pope and if you're not part of the royal family.

The Bill of the Bergs, every single royalty is, cousins with fucking King Charles right now. Every single royalty that's existing. Dude, this story, the people that back the industrial military complex are those people. They're the real problem. But guess what? They're the ones that have propped up gates. They're the ones that have propped up the WHO. They're the ones that propped up the world economic form. Dude, these are the more layers they put between them and us, the better it is because guess what? What? what I say to you before. Fact or fiction.

Do you understand why guys like me and you, we get branded with the hat and wear the conspiracy theorist? But here's the thing that they didn't plan for. I'm a fucking neurosurgeon. I've been doing this for 30 years. I'm a really good diagnostician. So good that I haven't been sued once in my career. I'm good at what I do.

And I've held this story until right now. Why? Because it's important right now. It's important for my kids. It's important for your kids. It's important for every single person that's out there listening to this. I don't want to leave this planet with disinformation so that we have to go back through the fucking dark ages again for 500 years until we take these motherfuckers out again. The person who made the mistake.

Do you know how this all started? Queen Victoria. Queen Victoria decided to marry into all the royal families. to stop a war because she knew her family was filled with a bunch of fucking idiots. And what did she wind up doing? She created World War I. It was a family squabble. And do you know what set them off and how they lost their alloidial titles?

The Bolshevik Revolution. And guess what? When they killed the czar, who is the cousin of King George at the time in England and Kaiser Wilhelmum in Germany, neither royal family could believe that. Do you know one of the most unprecedented things happening in the history of the 20th century that day when the czar was killed? The royal family, in case you don't know, their real name is Saxe-Koburn Goethe. They're German.

They realized it wasn't popular to be on the wrong side of the war, given what happened with Romanov, so what did they do? They took a new name off a castle in the north. of England called Windsor. And that's how he saved his ass. And what did he have to do? He had to agree to a new part of parliament called the House of Lords or Commons. So he had to give power up to the people.

He lost a loitial title. That's how it started. But he did it to save his ass. So let me tell you something. Britain has won two world wars and both times they lost. the first one was the big one where they lost a lot of their power what did they lose in world war one they lost two things they lost the sea to the u.s navy but what's the big one the treaty of versailles was a huge hit to the royal family because the way it was settled by the canesian economics

it guaranteed a second war why did they want a second war to get back what they really lost they lost a loy deal title and they wanted it back and if you don't think think that I'm right about this because you're talking to somebody who knows their history inside it out after King George is dead his brother takes over you know who he is Edward the 7th do you know Edward the 7th how to abdicate his throne do you know why because he supported Hitler Hitler was part of their plan dude oh yes they knew exactly what they were doing trust me is this some of the stuff that that that mortar made guy was talking about yes indeed That dude is spot on the money.

And you know what? When he said in a recent podcast, because I have been dead silent on this topic, that Churchill was one of the biggest shit shows in the history of the 20th century. It's true. Because what he basically hides is the real story. Everybody believes the 4 million Jews, the Holocaust, this and that. What people don't know is that the people that backed the royal family killed 60, million Christians in the Bolshevik revolution. That is absolutely true. But guess what? It's very

similar to the 1951 to 57 story where it was whitewashed from history. And every time that we have a period in history where something gets whitewashed, that's where I hope a guy like you, Danny Jones in the future, as you age when I'm dead, you remember the lesson I'm trying to teach you here. When you do podcast, go find people that really know history. you know it's hard well i know but you know that as a young man when you were growing up you didn't learn any history from general grows all the way to right now do you understand why do you understand why they put your kids now for eight to ten hours a day because they are training your children you're not i am not kidding you dude and what else are they doing no more books they're irradiating

that's mk ultra it's fucking everywhere you look bro but don't you know you know know what the problem is? You know what pissed me off the other day was they started the teachers feeding my my five-year-old came home. He's like, you know what our teacher gave us for snack time today? I'm like, what did they give you? She's like, all week I've had Rice Krispies treats. You never let me have those at home.

My wife was furious. She let him up there and talked to the teachers the same day. It was like there can't. Well, you're going to be more furious when you find out that that's how Gates now plans to put some of the biotechnology in foods. That's the reason he's buying up farmland. It's also the reason he wants to block the sun. Because guess what?

What's the antidote to blue screen technology? UV and red light. Why did Biden put the final damper on incandescent bulbs? It's going to be banned completely in 2028. You say they said it was energy, but it wasn't energy. No, because they know it's the blue light. The blue light keeps the system going in perpetuity. And none of you realize it.

None of you, because you know what? A, you're not smart enough to know the history. B, you're not a neurosurgeon. You don't know anything about the non-visual photoreceptor system in man. And here's the sad part. Most centralized doctors don't either. Like there are so many bombs that I gave you in this podcast already that people's heads are going to explode. And I don't expect them to know this an hour or two or three.

Like you'll probably go back and listen to this 10 years from now. When I'm dead and you're going to go, bro, this guy was telling us the truth. And I'm going to say something. This may be hyperbolic. But this moment in your podcast, this is Paul Revere riding through Boston, and I'm fucking telling you they're coming. You know what I expect? What should people do about it?

I need you to put your pitchfork down and start fucking rowing all in the same direction. We have to protect we the people. Whatever you can do, Danny, whatever the cat behind the screen can do. Steve, sorry about that, Steve. we need to come together and we need to take our country back. These people, the barbarians are inside the fucking gate. The Trojan horse is inside. But it's just, I'm going to remind you about something.

You may think I'm pessimistic. I'm not. You know why? A bunch of people who are misfits from the UK, who were farmers, who had pitchforks, got muskets, and beat the best army in the world. Let me tell you something, Danny. There's 360 million of us and we still have that Second Amendment.

This is the problem that people don't understand, I think, for the most part. That's why I think they want to keep us divided. Correct. That's what all the game with the media is. And how do we find a way to unite everybody? I think this podcast is one of those things. I think what I just did in Dallas with Nicole. I mean, look what's going on with Nicole and Bobby.

You don't think that's an amazing thing that you've seen that people ideologically who really don't like each other. Right. Or now, like in other words, people in New York and Virginia in 1776 said, fuck this. They had different political aims. Right. They came together. So why can't we? Like, I've gotten criticism.

Not that you've leveled it, but people on Twitter have leveled the slate. Jack, on your Twitter profile, you say you're, you know, a guy in exile. Yeah, you're right. But I casually point out, where's Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and James Madison home country? Was it the UK? Yeah. So they fixed it from being somewhere else. Why can't I?

I went to El Salvador and sat down with President Bucheli and told him a lot of this story. And what did he say to me? How would you fix it, Jack? I said, I put a constitutional amendment that's just like Benjamin Rush asked Thomas Jefferson to do so that the attack. factor for the U.S. Constitution couldn't be medical tyranny. So you know what he told me to do? Write the law. I did. So Buceli has it. Guess who else has it? Bobby Kennedy, you know who else has got it now? Trump. This little neurosurgeon sitting across from you on a phone who came off a plane, I'm that dude, bro. Don't tell me that one of us can't do it. If not you, who?

It's terrifying shit. Not for me, bro. I haven't processed it yet. I've been thinking and living this for 30 years, and I know it's a lot for people to hear, but it's kind of like the way, the best thing I can try to educate you about this, you're like sitting across me, and you're a new person who I just diagnosed with a glioblastoma,

and I'm telling you you got a year to live. That's kind of the same thing I'm telling you here. The difference is, I know you're going to die when you have a GBM, but I know you got a big chance here. You won't die and you won't be an economic slave for the next seven, eight, nine, ten generations of your family. If you stop being apathetic and nihilistic and get off your ass, turn the fucking Netflix off, stop drinking the coffee, stop buying their products, and go take your country back. It's all you got to do. There's a reason I came here, bro. How do you know all this shit and still have time to be a brain surgeon?

Let me ask you a question. If I'm madden in hell that my profession was stolen, we no longer, when I wrote my medical school application out, I had no idea that I was stepping in to basically an army that was programmed by the industrial military complex. And when I found that out in 205, you'll, and you'll hear that. this Danny, many, many podcasts I do. I get fucking matter than hell. When you ask me a question like that, I'm thinking about that 18 months when I realized everything. Now you know it just wasn't a story about leptin. It wasn't a story just about all the biology stuff that I teach. It was this fucking story in the background that I knew about this in the beginning. It was very easy for me to question them. Like many doctors asked me, how did you fight back? You know, I,

I just did the live Twitter exes, and I have to tell you, I haven't, I mean, you're the first person I've talked to you since this. I haven't even discussed this with Chantel. Mary Bowden, the doctor that was sent next to me, the E&T doctor, she said, you know, they had this plan because doctors are very compliant. You know, you have to do that for medical school and this and that. And I looked at her and I said, should I just drop this bomb right here right now? And I didn't. I didn't. I didn't say the things right then and there because here we are on Twitter.

There's millions of people going to look at it. And I said, this isn't the appropriate venue to drop this. But let me just tell you something, Danny. Thanks for destroying my podcast. I'm just fucking madder than hell about this. And I think every American should be infuriated that SV 40 is in this job. And here's the crazy part. For Steve behind the curtain in here, I'd like to hear your guys take home.

Now that I've given you the whole story, tell me what your first visceral thought is to know that the FDA still hasn't stopped the jab today knowing everything that we know about the aftermarket data. Well, I mean, it's just what the whole COVID pandemic really taught me. And I think a lot of people is the revolving door between the FDA and the pharmaceutical industries. And the FDA seems to be more just like a propaganda wing for the pharmaceutical. Actually, I'm going to tell you it's part of the program. This is all MK Ultra, dude. You're seeing it laid out. Yeah.

This is now MK. Ultra. I have a pretty famous quote that was in my TED Talk that got banned. Ideation without execution leads to deletion of every good idea. Let me just tell you something. MK. Ultra was a great idea that they originally stole from the Nazis. Right. But they executed. The Nazis didn't.

that's the truth bro and I remember when I wrote that that quote I had general grows in mind when I wrote that quote dude he's the biggest criminal in American history and he has bred

so many criminals started with Jimmy Byrne look even the Manchurian candidate they set up which was Harry Truman because they got rid of the three term vice president, which was Henry Wallace. Dude, even when he realized he was hoodwinked,

he couldn't do anything to stop it. That's how fucking powerful these guys are. So the only president that has been, how shall I say, above board, they took out with acute lead toxicity. That's JFK. And my opinion, the country doesn't heal

until we know the truth about what happened with him. Yeah. That's my opinion. And I'm telling you exactly what happened and why it happened and what all the collateral effects are of that decision. There's a reason. There's a reason I'm not a political guy, but I put my chips behind Bobby and Nicole. He knows a lot of this story. But he can't talk about it either, bro, because you know it'll happen.

But guess what? Have you ever found it unusual? That everybody knows Trump used to be a Democrat. He was best friends with John F. Kennedy Jr. He said when I get in, I'm going to tell people about what happened with JFK, but he didn't. Right. You know why? Because he found out just who was involved.

Turns out some of his friends were involved. Trump's friends? Yeah. And the Mossad. Yeah. Israel. You think Israel was involved in JFK? No question about it, dude.

Let me just tell you something. Israel is knee deep in this. What part of, why would Israel have anything to do with JFK? Who was Meyer Lansky and Mo Dahlitz with? Dude, they wanted dirt on him. Let me ask you another question. Did you find it unusual that our boy Epstein, as soon as they broke into his apartment, what did they find over the mantle? A picture of Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky's blue dress.

Right. Dude, the Mossad is about having information on the states. Right. What was the big, what was, I'll give you another one for your conspiracy theory, because we didn't talk about yet. Yeah, I'm just not buying the connection. How'd they get paid off? How'd they get paid off for JFK? Do you know how they got paid off? How did who get paid off? The Israel people.

I don't think Israel was involved. I don't know. I haven't seen anything compelling for Israel to be involved in JFK's assassination. Well, I do. I know they were involved. Okay. Those guys, Jack Ruby was a Mossad agent. The Jewish mob was involved. Everybody in the mob was involved for different reasons, but they were involved. How'd they get paid off? Let's talk about the payoff. I think it's possible that they were... You don't want to go there, do you?

No, I do. But I want to explain, I think it's possible that Israel was involved in the process, maybe downstream. But I think top level, I've had this guy on here multiple times. His name's John Newman. He's the guy that everybody who writes JFK books, they all write their books based on his work. he's the guy who's read the over a million declassified documents on JFK. He's been studying it his whole life. And his theory of the whole thing is that what happened in Dealey Plaza is all a distraction.

He thinks that Dealey Plaza, the reason everybody talks about Dealey Plaza is because it's the exciting thing to talk about. It's where the bullet hit his head. And everything that led up to that is the important part of it. That's because your boy Newman doesn't know the key pieces. What's the key pieces? What was the payoff? You remember back in early 1960s we had the Cuban Missile Crisis? Yes.

And then we had all the shit that was getting ready to come with the Jews and the Arabs about the war in 67 and all that. And Israel was really worried about themselves. And they told Kennedy, they first told Eisenhower that we need a bomb. Our Jewish scientists gave you the fucking bomb. We want the bomb. Eisenhower told him to go and fuck themselves. Guess what JFK did? Same thing. In fact,

do you know what JFK did right before he died, the year before he died? He actually told the Jewish state, I think it was Ben Gurian, that was the Israeli prime minister of the time, that not only are we not going to give it to you, but we want our guys to go in and examine what you're

doing. And they were furious. Guess what happened when LBJ came in? magically he gave it to him some uranium went missing at a place in Pennsylvania and that is how they started

their nuclear program hmm pull that one up Steve yeah it's called if I'm not mistaken dominion or dimian it's the dimian incident that nobody seems to know about but guess what that was the payoff

and what's the collateral effect of this my friend that Newman probably doesn't want to go to. Turns out, we happen to know. There you go. No, no, no, no. This would be, it's put down, put in the search, Israel, Pennsylvania, fissionable uranium. Fissionable uranium. Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania. No, get rid of the dominium. Yeah, uranium fission. Go to the, incident. You can leave incident there. Just get rid of the other thing. Uranium incident. There you go. Thank God for AI. There you go. There it is.

the Apollo affair. 1965 incident in which the U.S. company in Pennsylvania lost a large amount of highly enriched uranium that was suspected to be sent to Israel's nuclear weapons program. Oh, here we go. Yeah. So, hold on. I'm not done yet. Okay.

You're going to have to hold on for me now. Now I'm going to run your podcast. This is your show. No, here's the second thing that happens. The collateral effect. I think the guy you had on told you a little bit about this. This is the Ian Carroll Cat. Mm-hmm.

that all the Jews showed up in New York before 9-11 happens and they're all in the art. Dancing Israelis? No. Oh, the art thing. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

Do you know why? Because the Mossad trained the four Arabs to take the planes over and run them in the building. Got it? And what was the point of that? I think, I don't think that is. Hold on. Hold on. What was the point of that?

You can pull this up is the Patriot Act was walking around Washington, D.C., from 1999 all the way to Texas. 2000 and everybody said there's no way you can get this in and George Bush said hold my beer Yep And Cheney with Thomas Drake Bro, I'm just telling you

Yeah No I agree with you I agree with you here Well if you agree with that Then you better learn about that Because that is That was the payoff for JFK And they've been involved

Ever since and guess what That brings us to current events With Jeffrey Epstein Now let's really make it current Who's the new Jeffrey Epstein? Pete Diddy? Did he? Same exact prosecutor they used for Gislane Maxwell.

Well, guess what? Bro, this is the same ballgame, bro. I'm just telling you. History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes awfully loud, and I'm telling you right now, everybody needs to know. This story, every last piece of it is connected. John's big point about JFK, he thinks that the big picture of it is that General Lemits and Taylor.

They wanted a nuclear war. They wanted to nuke China and they wanted to nuke Russia. Right. And they had a meeting in June of 63 or 62 where Bobby Kennedy C. Did you ever tell you why that was the case? I'm just curious. He probably did. I'm not remembering off the top of my head.

Because both of they were prodigies of Groves. And that's what Groves wanted to do. Okay. And Groves stepped out. Who stopped Grohs? Eisenhower. Right. Remember what Eisenhower said in 1961?

Farewell speech? Mm-hmm. Yep. Oh. Are you starting to see now what Groves did? He went outside the military and still had control over the Joint Chiefs of staff all during Eisenhower and Kennedy's presidency. And, you know, the interesting thing is who opened up China in 1971?

Nixon. Who was Nixon the vice president of? Eisenhower. Right. Bro. I mean, how many things do I have to keep fucking knocking down for you? You're knocking them down, man. I'm not denying it.

You're on it. I think the JFK assassination, though, I think, like many things can be true at once. I think there was a lot of things going on there. One of the biggest smoking gun that John uncovered was there was an FBI flash stop on Oswald's file. The FBI was watching Oswald. They had a flash on his file. And a week before the assassination, it was removed from his file.

So he basically says, Oswald being on that route in Dallas was the equivalent. of a flea being in a Lysol convention. There's no way he should have been there. The flash stop was removed. Yeah, but you got to remember something. There was a reason he was there. Right.

He was working with the FBI agent on Magazine Street. That is documented in Judith Ferry's book. See, I'm going to tell you about Newman. He doesn't know fucking shit about Judith Ferry Baker. He doesn't know anything about that. That's the reason you got to go back to him and say, bro, you're missing huge parts. I can tell you he doesn't know shit about this Lenach. but dude, I'm the guy that worked with that Lenach.

And I proved to you already that Bobby is the one that got the phone call when Ferry got killed. So if you don't think that story trumps anything that he thinks, what he's doing, he's trying to put breadcrumbs together. Everything I told you links perfectly. You don't have to believe it. And I'm not trying to convince you to believe it, but I'm telling you this was done on fucking purpose. And the reason the FBI stepped back is because they knew that Oswald was a CI operative. Right. Without a doubt.

Right. But he was there to be the Patsy and Oswald knew it. If you read Judith Ferry Baker's book, she said it. She told him, he told her two months before the assassination that he knew that he was going to be a Patsy. The thing he didn't know is that his friends, Carlos Marcella and Jack Ruby, we're going to take him out. Ruby is a Mossad agent. Right. No, yeah, I agree with you.

And John agrees with all of that stuff. He just believes that. And look, everything that you're saying about Oswald being there, being a Patsy and Ruby, he would probably agree with you on all of that stuff. His only point is that everyone wants to say the CIA killed Kennedy. His point is the CIA was the cover up. The military killed Kennedy. It was a military coup, is his point.

No, but I think this is semantics and are parsons. Exactly, yeah, yeah. You have to realize that General Groves was the military and he is the deep state. It's where it began. Right. And that's what I'm saying. See, the problem is, and I guess maybe the difference, him being a journalist and me being a doctor, I look at it making a diagnosis.

To make a diagnosis, you've got to go back to the root cause. I'm taking you back to the root cause. That's the difference between me and them. and I have to tell you, it turns out that this part is the biggest missing story in the JFK story. And the truth be told, if you talk to the people in the Garrison family, if they'll ever talk, I doubt they will. I can tell you that they physically told me that her dad wanted to put Friken Oshner up on trial. He didn't want to go after Clay Shaw. Dude, do you realize he puts Alton Oshner on trial?

Everything fucking blows up. Like the Warren Commission never happens. And just remember the people that are on the Warren Commission. Like I'll give you another example, why I don't trust any of the journalists. This will probably get me in a little bit of trouble with the JFK thing. But you know the guy who's... You're not getting into more trouble than you already got. You know the guy that's been, he's now doing stuff with Paramount and talking about the mob and this thing?

I think his name is Tom Main. Oh, yeah. I've heard of this guy. Tom, he's doing the stuff with all like mayor, Thomas mayor. You got it. So do you know what award that he won in the past? The John McCloy Award. Do you know that John McCloy sat on the Warren Commission?

Do you know that if you go listen to things that he says, he tries to listen to him really carefully. He tries to skate around a lot of stuff that you and I are talking about. Really? Dude, he's who the Church Commission warned us about. do you want to know how many people in this industry that you're talking about that they're fucking scammers,

that they're working for the other team? How about 99% of them? Right. No, I bet. That's what I'm trying to tell you, bro? Just remember, what's my day job? Am I making any money off the JFK thing? No.

I'm a doctor. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. That's what I need you to understand. No, I get it. Incentives dictate outcomes. These guys have made an industry

out of this guy's, death. Right. What am I telling you? This is about the Republic, bro. Yeah. It's a totally different ballgame. And what am I asking you to do? Use your head. Jack, this is fascinating. But I have like all this stuff I want to learn from you about health and about science and medicine too. So can we transition a little bit and talk some more about like your background in brain surgery? Sure. and what you do. I want to learn more about like the protocols that you use to live your life and to subvert this like blue light attack that is happening to everybody.

I want to open it like my first question is how did you meet Rick Rubin? Through helping him out. I think it was a dinner that we had with a guy who was a vegetarian named David Avocado Wolf. You ever hear that guy? like a wackadoodle. Is he a vegan? He was a vegan.

Okay, okay. And Rick was a vegan. Right. And Rick was transitioning from that lifestyle to the new one with him being a mitochondria. Right. And Rick began to realize that it was more about light and not about food. And he, this is the thing that you're going to learn about Rick. He's a good guy.

He tries to, like, help his friends that are going to the car crash. And Jack is totally different. I try to tell Rick as a doctor. You can't help him. No. They have to be willing to help themselves. and if they're not, you just got to let them go through the car crash and then hopefully wounds create their wisdom.

That's what I teach my tribe. But that's kind of where it went down. And then the other person that we kind of linked together, he was already following my stuff for a while. But you remember the dude that wrote the game? He was the lead editor, Rolling Stone magazine, Neil Strauss. Oh, yeah. Neil has a thing on the side that he does for millionaires,

so these are all high net worth guys. and he tries to teach them, you know, things to improve their life, which is, it's pretty cool. Rick told Neil to invite me out to one of those. And I did that, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago. And they wanted me to talk about, you know, certain parts of what I did. And I think if I'm not mistaken, I talked about the eye clock at that time, which is the supercosmatic nucleus. Because basically my science, decentralized science, the quantum science, the quantum science, Anthem biology comes down to three things.

We talked about it in the beginning. Light water magnetism. So if you distill what I do, you have to optimize those three arms. If you optimize those three arms, you can stay away from centralized medicine. You can stay away from Big Pharma. You can live a good life and not have to worry about being tethered to that sausage maker. Yeah. That's really why the TED Talk was banned.

They don't want that message out. They wanted you on Ozzympic. Right. You had a story of a lady who came to you in one of your clinics. And you had no idea why she came to you. Oh, I know. This is the thing we talked about in Rick's podcast. Yes, yes.

The lady who wanted French fries. Well, yeah. There was another lady, too. I want to hear both these stories. There's a couple of them. But the one you're talking about specifically, this is, before I had my come-to-Jesus moment, meaning the whole quantum biology thing, it was very unusual. A lady tried to get in my office. The girls in my office kind of cock-blocked her because they

thought she was bad shit crazy. And she said, look, I don't have a neurosurgical problem, but Dr. Cruz was involved in my care in a very weird way. And she told the girl at the front desk that she had a heart transplant because she had, I think it was my arm. but from a virus. Right. And she got a heart, and I was the neurosurgeon that got the family to donate this kid's heart. And she figured that out somehow through the paperwork that the hospital gave her. And it turned out she was right.

And when I heard the story, immediately I knew what she was talking about, and I had to go back and look at my files to see the details around the kid. But the thing that I remembered is the kid was at a McDonald's drive-thru and a car came and teaboned him. And he just got his like happy meal. And the thing that they mentioned in the EMT report is that the kid had French fries all over his front seat. And I remember his mom telling me, she goes, oh, if he never went to McDonald's, but he always loved their French fries. That was what stuck in my head. So I actually had to go back and pull the kid's chart to, find out, and it turned out, I was the neurosurgeon that pronounced him brain dead. So that's when I

called up, you know, the organ procurement agency and got the family to donate. I'm a little bit different than most neurosurgeons. A lot of neurosurgeons turn it over to the hospital and let them do it. I think it's much better if the neurosurgeon talks to the family that way, because we can answer questions way better than they can. Right. And neurosurgeons are pretty good about subtracting the emotion out when something like this happens. Like, Danny, it's hard to say this to someone across the table, but neurosurgeons deal with death and destruction more than any other doctor and any other specialty. Right. So we're really good at it. Now, I'm going to tell you. More than heart surgeons? Oh, yeah. Not even close. Heart surgeons don't deal with death hardly at all.

Okay. Just the ones they kill. But the thing that happens with us, we catch people at all parts of life. that have GBMs, you know, at the end of their life, like 70, 80 years old. But kids that have subduroles, epidurals, you know, that are 18, 19 years old. I mean, the last case that I did, I just took a bullet out of someone's temporal lobe who I think was 22 years old. And the thing is, when you deal with that stuff all the time, you're the best person to talk to the family. I just, and I had an uncanny record of getting people to donate. because I think this happens to be a skill set that I have, a really good skill set. And part of me, it bothers me because I know that these people are going to be tethered to big

farmer, but at the same time, the most valuable asset that we can give in decentralized medicine is the gift of time. And I have to tell you, I think the reason I feel passionate about this, if you know the other parts of my story when I talk about Bitcoin, I tell people Bitcoin is a time machine, but I'm going to tell you that your mitochondria in you is also a time machine. And when you do an organ transplant, you're effectively giving someone a time machine. And to me, that's the reason why, early in my career, the people that taught me, that's why I go all in. It's probably, it's hard to talk about. When other people are going through tragedy,

you realize that you can give the gift of time to somebody else who it's running out of. There's no surgery that I can do, that can do that. That can give that back. And the crazy part, I'm not even doing surgery. So I have never told anybody, I have a famous term where I say it's brain surgery without a scalpel. This is the exact idea that I can. up with why I decided to be good at this because I knew that I could give people back time if I was really good at doing that.

And the reason I sat down and talked to that lady is because I knew how important it was to work. And then I thought about the family and I thought about the kid. And that mother, I'll never forget her. It was heart-wrenching for her. And I told her that her son would still be alive, just in a different format. And I remember it like it was yesterday. But when that lady walked in and it was like reality hit me in the face, I was telling

the mom that and it turned out I got the lesson. And I think it happened. I think it happened before I went through my own Come to Jesus moment because this was preconditioning me to realize that I had to go on this journey. And when you realize that a lot of things that you're doing to people isn't the right thing and this is the right thing, that's when you have to go all in. And I said a couple things to you when we were talking about the JFK thing, that incentives dictate outcomes. That's the day that incentive stopped dictating outcomes for me. That's when things began to change for me. That's when I started doing things based on time and not based on money.

And that's why that story, you know, I don't like to think about it because, For me, there's very few cases in a nurse surgery career where you know that you were changed. That was a big one. Wow, man. Especially, I can imagine the amount of death you see. Oh, well, if I told you what I've seen just in the last four years from COVID, I mean, I told Chantal this, I'd go back and work a week of trauma call and I'd see at least 13 blood clots and at least five or six turbo cancers. Like people would have cancer and there was no explanation. And I can tell you, I started doing some really, I think hospital systems would say it's fucked up.

But this goes back to this story with the kid with the thing. I told the people they want to know how did this happen. I said, well, it's pretty simple. Go send your tissue to Philip Buchholz in South Carolina and let him sample it. If you got SV40 in it, I can tell you exactly how it happened. So anybody listens to your podcast, their attorneys, now you have, you know, the answer. And how do I know that I'm accurate about that? This is another mind-fuck to the other story.

But we're now talking about medicine. When I was going through the process of trying to figure out this SV-40 thing very, very early on, in 1992, I became aware of a PhD researcher who is looking at the mesothelioma data. and misotiliuma is a very rare cancer. Like I can tell you my career when I first started, no one ever got it. Then people started getting it. And now they blamed everything on asbestos, and I never bought that story. So you can imagine about five or six years later when I find out the story about JFK, the polio shot and everything else, I'm going, could this fucking new cancer that?

Nobody knows about it be linked to SV40. So I go to a medical school library at LSU, and I find that. this cardiothoracic surgeon who's kind of famous, he's done more mesothelioma surgeries than anybody else because it's pretty rare to do surgery on these people. He has 472 specimens in his office. PhD goes and researches it. They check it all every single case of mesothelioma had SV40 in it. So Steve can pull this.

when I can tell you the article was written in the Atlantic because I remember when I did my homework on it, I couldn't have fucking believe it when I saw it. And you know, and that's just another data point for me where you have a weird cancer and you asked the question. So the story that I told you in the beginning of this podcast, here it is again in a fractal. In my medical career, I asked the question, is mesothelium are really an asbestos story in SV40? So when I found out that's the case, here it is. Here I am now at the end of my career. We're talking the last six months, you know, that I've been doing neurosurgery. I started telling everybody who got a turbo cancer. Go send your, tell your pathologist to send your cancer to the University of South Carolina. Why? Because Philip Buchholz has blocked me on Twitter. I'm sure at some point he's going to see some of this and he's going to realize he made a mistake.

But he was a fucking bad ombre who became a good ombre because he validated Kevin's findings. So now, if he really wants to be a good PhD researcher, he will take these people who've been injured and tell them why they have turbo cancer. And the surgeon who did the mesothelialialia stuff, you know, he just did it because he was a cowboy, but he doesn't realize how incredibly important that one decision was in his life for a guy like me. because I couldn't sit here with you and have this discussion. That was one of the big things that happened. And I feel the same way about the people today. So, you know, when we talk about the kid with the transplant, we talk about those stories,

I will tell you there's very few cases that bothered me like the kid with the French rise. There's another one from my residency, believe it or not, that Chantal's involved with. Oh, really? Yeah. It'd probably be better for you, probably, to interview her about it because it kind of teaches you a little bit about the type of guy than I am. I was a chief resident at Charity Hospital, and we had a little girl come in about 3 o'clock in the afternoon.

She got home from one of her, you know, her Catholic private schools. and some guy was waiting there to rip her. And the guy got in and she fought like a fucking animal. She had this guy's DNA everywhere. I mean, she fought. And the way he found, he didn't, he, I don't think he ever got to do it because she fought like a fucking Wolverine. But he took a brass lamp and smashed the side of her head. And literally her head was pushed into the opposite side.

Oh. I'm talking about like all. the skull and everything. And of course, she comes in, and you probably don't know this, but Chantel was my operating new room nurse when I was a resident. Yeah, you mentioned that. And this girl comes up, and I call Chantel, and I said, look, open every fucking thing we have.

Because, of course, when the EMTs came in and nurses in the emergency room, they told me the story of this little girl. And I'm like, there's no way she's dying on my dime. And I looked at her, the nurses actually told me, look at her fingernails. She fought. And I said, well, I'm going to fight for her. So the staff doctor, that is on. And this is so funny because this doc was kind of involved in monkey research.

So again, yeah, it's actually tied to the other story. That's why I said, this is quantum entanglement. Yeah. And I take the little girl up and I'm up there. Shift change for the nurses is right around 6 o'clock, so Chantel's going home, and I'm blasting Metallica. I just keep putting the black album on constantly. And I basically told everybody,

just fucking get out of my way, and the staff doctor who's there comes in the room, and he's like, Jack, enough. You mean, you're putting blood products into this kid. You're doing this. This is just not going to end well. I'm looking at the scan and this and that, and I look at him.

remember, I'm just the chief resident. I basically tell the staff doctor, go fuck yourself. I said, you get out of my operating room. Dude, I can be fired for this. I was like literally six months away from being done. Wow. And I told him, just get the fuck out of my room.

And all the nurses, like all the other residents, I told everybody else. I said, if you have a problem with this, leave. And guess what? Everybody went like fire ants. Everybody went all in. Dude, when I tell you, I've never had a case in my career that I opened like 50 trays to get different instruments out, Chantel comes back to work the next day, and I'm still operating on the lower.

Oh, my God. So guess what? The sun is coming up. Metallica is still on. And I make the decision. I take the final piece of bone out of, you know, her basil gangling. Oh, my fuck. And I'm going now close to 20 hours straight.

Don't eat, don't drink, don't even take a break. And Chantel comes back in and I look at her and she looks at me. I said, now I want you to go find me the biggest piece of liophilized dura you can get. And this is a dural replacement because I actually had to cut this all out. When I tell you. A what replacement? The dura, the covering of the brain. And she goes, what are you going to do with something that big?

And I said, this little girl's brain is going to sweat. so much is going to look like a basketball. So she had no bone left on that side of her head. So my idea was to leave a big, huge balloon and let her swell into it. At that time, I hit her with more methylene blue than any patient I've ever done in my entire career. The reason why is I was trying to control those swelling. That also comes up in the Rick Rood podcast. What year is this?

This is 1998. For people who are uninitiated, can you explain what methylene balloon is? of methane blue. Well, let's talk about it in real terms. Real terms is I just talked about it with Nicole Shannon and Mary Bowden that, you know, she got fired or the Texas Medical Board went after for Ivermactin for COVID. Remember the talk that I told you how with Becker? Yes.

And he told me to be careful. Right. So guess what I told people to use hydrochloroquine and methylene blue. You know why? For COVID. Yeah. Hydrochloroquine comes from methylene blue and methylene blue works. for COVID. And you would never know that unless you did your homework. So that the medical board

never, I didn't have to face what Mary did. See, remember, when you work smarter or when you know better, you do better, or your patients do better. That was a lesson that I got from Becker. So I hit this girl with the methylene blue. And what the methylene blue does, it improves mitochondrial function so that the brain won't swell. When you have a case like this, the thing that you're really worried about is the brain will swell outside the head and it won't end well. I remember she's, I think she was 15 or 16 years old. You know, her mom had told me that she was getting ready to go to college and this and that. I'm going, I'm doing everything I possibly can. Is there any way at this point to keep someone in, like, to keep, I know you can keep them alive,

but can you keep them cognitively able to get through the day? I think I'm telling you that story right now. So the little girl goes through surgery. Of course, I take some shit from the staff doctor, but when the staff doctor saw the post-op scans, and he's like, doesn't have any bone left anywhere in her brain. You got every single fragment out. And this isn't a day before we had neural navigation.

I did this, bro, by feeling with my fingers. And when I took it all out, I finished my residency, so I don't know what she does. Because, you know, after she gets through the acute phase, she goes through rehab. And then for us, she's lost to history. I get a call when I'm in private practice in Tennessee. Her mother calls my office and says, we'd like to send Dr. Cruz a letter, da, da, don, And the office manager at the time is her name's Karen Smith. She comes in and says, Jack, can we give him this?

I said, yeah, I think I know who this is. She writes me a letter. Her daughter got out of rehab. She's back to walking. She's almost back to talking. I get another letter. I think it was two years later. She's in college.

I got a letter, I think about three years after that, she graduated. No way. So this is that lesson that I'm trying to teach you. It ain't fucking over until we say it's over. I told you that story with politics, but I'm telling you that little girl, that happened at the right time of my life. I was an ass kicker when I was a resident,

but let me just tell you something. I learned more from that case than probably any case that I've ever done. And when you know something, you go all in. You don't hold back. That's the lesson. And I got news here. Most neurosurgeon who listen to this, like, there's no way that I would have been allowed to do that as a chief resident.

Well, I don't think anybody would have been allowed to do that either. But they let me do it because they knew a lot about me. They knew who I was. I was a fucking rebel even when I was a resident. but I was adamant that I was not giving her up. And I will tell you, I've given up on other patients since then. But not, I didn't have the feeling that I had for this girl. I knew this girl was going to love.

How do you, how many neurosurgeons, like the top neurosurgeons in the world that you've talked to, how many of them are implementing the same things that you're talking about, like with methylene blue? And I think there was a case you talked about on Rick's podcast with where you, you doused some ladies. Some lady came to you wanted brain surgery and you said only if I can douse your brain in hydrogen peroxide and methylene blue. I actually learned that when I was in residency training from actually Dr. Klein. I mean, I remember this is old school neurosurgery. And he would tell me, you know, all the things that he did. And of course, I didn't believe anything he said.

So I went and I started reading about it. I said, well, this totally makes sense. Hyden peroxide is a free radical. we put it on the surface of the brain when the mitochondria we're creating hydrogen, oxygen, and more electrons. I'm like, this makes total fucking sense. And the problem was none of the other residents really thought it worked because they thought,

you know, he's an old school guy and this is bullshit. And then the other thing that I started noticing when I did that, it was a great way to get blood out of the subarachnoid space. A lot of neurosurgeons know it from that aspect, like when we do aneurysm surgery, because we know if we leave any blood in that area, it causes vasis spasm and people can develop strokes down the road. So you want to try to get all the blood out as you can.

And, you know, we have treatments that we use for that, but the treatments are not really good. We have drugs that are designed for that. The drugs really aren't good. And when I came out of residency, probably five, six years later, the hydrogen peroxide story got changed where I added UV light and infrared that I would put on the brain. Red light? Yeah. And guess what happened?

The brain swelling, outcomes did well. Remember the story I told you that I didn't have any suits or anything else. I did high volume neurosurgery in my practice. I did a lot of cranial surgery. All these things that I started doing were part of the reason why I didn't get sued. I remember doing spine surgery on people who had open dura from me doing a lumbar fusion and putting UV light. Like I guarantee you this people on my surgical team are going to. Listen to this thing.

I'm going to say, we thought he was fucking crazy. But I wasn't crazy because guess what? The science, it wasn't well known now, but now it's much better known. So I'm telling you now, 20 years after me starting to do this, like five to 10 years in my practice, I've become less crazy over time. Right. And that's the reason why I'm telling you that you have to be serious about your craft. and I think the more serious you are about your craft and you understand what you're doing, it's important. And unfortunately, I trained at a time where doctors work for the patient.

Today, most neurosurgeons, they're working for a hospital system. So that means there's an oracle problem. Doctors aren't working for you. They're working for the hospital. Right. And you need to understand that. Patients don't understand that right now. That's one of the biggest problems in centralized medicine.

When it comes to the red light, the information. infrared red light. There's these panels you can buy online. There's various brands of them and some of them have infrared light. Is this what you're specifically talking about when you're shining this on the brain? Yeah. In brain surgery, there's two things I want to do. I need to have a light that covers infrared A, which is 600 to a thousand atomy light. But the big, big switch is I have to have near infrared. Near infrared, yes. goes a little further because there's a photo switch that I learned about after I had my CumG's moment. It's 1,280 nanometer light. That photo switch is actually important with 380 nanometer light. That's actually the big control switch between anabolic and catabolic metabolism.

And what does that effectively mean? When you use those specific frequencies of light, you can optimize metabolism, why the patient's asleep. So if any of my anesthesiologist listens to this and they want to know why I was doing what I did, I never told anybody what I was doing because I was always afraid I'd wind up in front of the medical board. But I was guaranteeing that people would wake up from anesthesia like this, because I knew that was one of the big risks, that we need to have people recover fast. And it turns out, if you understand the two photo switches for metabolism,

which is 380 nanometer light, that controls the mTOR switch. 1280 light controls the free radical switch. And that's the decision between the use of ATP and free radicals. Most people don't realize that, because they don't know mitochondrial medicine well. Nitric oxide is also a free radical. And it has an unpaired electron. Nitric oxide, when it gets into your mitochondria, actually turns ATP production off. Like most doctors who will listen to this think that we need to use ATP all the time.

It turns out we're in the sun. we actually reduce the amount of ATP we make. We're actually living off the light of the sun through energizing our blood plasma, which has water in it, 93%. Right. So one of the key bases, I told you, is light water magnetism. Turns out when you're able to bury more light energy in water networks in a cell, patients do better.

That's one of the key foundational principles that I'm telling you. learn all that? I learned it from the story of photosynthesis. Why? Because of chlorophyll and hemoglobin. They looked exactly the same. And you said that you listened to the Euberman podcast. And I know there was a lot of science in there. But you might remember that I told you the two most important biologic semiconductors before the KT event were hemoglobin and chlorophyll. Why? Because they have a nitride cage around it. Or remember, what's the most dominant gas in the atmosphere? Turns out it's nitrogen. So before oxygen was available, these were the two key semiconductor proteins that we used to make electrons.

So when I realized that and I started to think about what happened from the KT event to us, I said there's got to be other pieces and parts of the story. And what was the pieces and parts that I realized? That the semiconductor proteins were giving their light that Becker found in his work to the water networks. And that would actually turn water. into a quantum mechanical battery.

So this is in 2005. Now remember, none of this is published in a textbook at this time. But guess what? Everything I just told you today is now published in papers and textbooks. That's Jack Cruz. That's decentralized medicine. There was also a point you guys were having a discussion, and I think he,

he remained corroborated this, about the amount of information that's in the textbooks that you get in. that you get in your medical training. Uh-huh. And you're having a conversation with somebody, and he was saying that like, Eddie Chang. Eddie Chang, yes. The guy from USC, yeah, USF. Mm-hmm.

And he said maybe 50% of it. 99, 100. It's all bullshit. Look, I tell you. That's hard to, to comprehend. No, it's not. When you understand, right. Yeah, but even for you, it's not.

You just heard the JFK story they gave you. So what can I tell you? Every single nutrition study, every single study that any people, or Dr. Reeds has no light controls. So we're making the assumption that how it really works and you don't have light controls and I just told you how important light is. I mean, is it that hard to believe what I said is probably true? And then here's the bigger part of the story. Armadiq County makes a special kind of water. It's called deterrent depleted water. You don't get any deuterium depleted water coming out of your tap at home. So what happens if you ran all the

experiments with that type of water. And it turns out that water has a high die electric constant. What does that mean in English? It means it makes more electrons. What's the story of life? The more electrons you have, the better you do. What do electrons do? Funny little Jewish guy from Bern, Einstein, photoelectric effect. More electrons you have, the more light you could absorb. It's not that hard to get, dude. When you see the magic, you go, this is really a game of net negative charge in electrons so that you can absorb more light. The more light you put in the system, okay, the brain shrinks down. So when you ask me the question, Jack, why are you using methylene blue?

Because I knew it was a path to get me more electrons. And if I get more electrons and I'm shining light on the brain, that actually helps the brain. That makes me a better surgeon. And all the lights that you guys use during surgery, those big bright lights, they're blue lights, right? Yeah, they're xenon. I told everybody to go get a spectroscope and put it on their operating room microscope, put it on their loops on their head, put it on the lights in the room, and then correlate that with how your patients do certain ones.

And the funny thing I also said in that podcast, I remember I specifically changed where I did surgery into a hospital that didn't have the best equipment in the world, but you know what they had? They had a courtyard that I could bring my patients outside in the sun, and the anesthesiologist didn't fuck with me, you know, and fight with me about doing this. And they were stunned. They were like, I can't believe this guy's patients just wake up and they do great when they shouldn't. Like the other doctors who operate on people with Parkinson's and Alzheimer's, they would be in the ICU for two or three days because they had sundowning and everything else.

And I would do my subdurals and bring the patient outside. And they're like, this fucking guy's going home the next day. That is how powerful sunlight is for a biology. But you know what the problem is? You never get to open this door and centralized medicine because they don't even know exists. It's kind of like what I did with you about all your other conspiracy theories. I gave you the part that you were missing. It turned out that part tied up a lot of loose ends.

I'm telling you the same thing happened to me. That's really the reason my Jack Dorsey and Rick became my patience because they were like, they talked to me and they saw how serious I was about my craft. And they're like, I trust this guy. And that's what really happens. And then when someone listens to you and then it begins to work. And, you know, Rick's like, bro, this doesn't cost me anything. All it costs me is time and I have to retool my life to do different things.

And same thing with Jack. When he realized that, you know, what he was doing as a tech abuser was harming him, you know, cognitively and mentally. And he changed that. Now both of them were Zen masters. They've been doing my stuff for 15 years. you know so i guess the story the way it unfolds it kind of goes to what i'm trying to tell you about medicine do the right thing bro like don't don't do the thing that benefits you do the thing that you know this the right thing to do because i really believe in karma i think i think the

universe pays us back and um and i think you have to be authentic and how you do it i'm pretty authentic on social media i'm pretty acerbic i'm fucking salty I curse. I'm everything a neurosurgeon shouldn't be. But when you sit down with me and talk to me, you'll find out I'm as smart as a motherfucker. And I like telling dumb motherfuckers how stupid they are. I do it on purpose. Why? Because my mentality is I know what Mary Bowden said. They are all compliant. That's why they got into medical school to begin with. So I take the tact that I got to be the drill sergeant. And guess what? You see what a drill sergeant? You see what a drill sergeant? sergeant does to a bunch of retards in eight or ten weeks turns them in the soldiers bro i told you i need use the public to be savages and i need the people in centralized medicine who are going to hopefully adapt and start fighting for you guys again you are a nightmare to the high priest in their ivory towers of doc of academia but i'd have it no other way right i feel like i was i feel like i was built for this moment. This is, I can tell you, I told Nicole this and I've said it to Bobby and Rick.

There's a proper time for your life's work to come out. This is that time. This is when I can make the biggest impact. Can you explain how do we create light inside of our bodies? That's easy. And why is that important? Well, it's everything. I mean, it allows you to live at high latitudes. But if you think about it, it totally makes sense. You have to know a little science. So this is this guy named Fritz Pop. He's a biophysicist. He was big in the 60s and 70s when Becker was doing his work on Bone. So when Becker came out and did his seminal research and he showed that bone has a P&N semiconductor, collagen and appetite, and that the current is rectified. That told you, as a scientist, that means there's got to be a photoelectric effect happening on bone. So he brought

physicist then because he didn't know how to do it. I think the guy's name was Charlie Bowman. Charlie Bowman comes in and checks it and goes, look at this. When we check for the photoelectric effect both ways with collagen and with appetite, it glows brown red. And when you do it the other way, it glows blue. So he figured it out right away. So what does Fritz Pop do? Well, if that's true, then that means that we should have a light signature. Like, for example, anytime a doctor is listening to your podcast, they're going to say, well, when I cut somebody open, I don't see any light. Well, you're not. You won't see it because it's ultra-weak biophotons. You know, you'd have to have specialized equipment to see it. You need a photo multiplier. So what does Fritz Pop do in the 60s? He makes

photo multipliers. He invents a machine that can do this. So what does he do? He takes leaves. He takes every single thing that's living, puts it into photo multiplier, and guess what he finds out? It creates light. So when I learned about this, I'm going, okay, I know Becker's experiments, and I knew those experiments just so you know in 88, 89, 90. Okay, we're talking a long time ago. And then I went back and I said, okay, somebody's got to be studying this light story. And it turns out was Fritz Pop. Now, there's a lot of things about Fritz Pop story that's he shit the bet on. But the number one thing that he proved is light is created by us.

So then it became incumbent upon me to figure what. that out was. In those 18 months that I told you, I went from being centralized to decentralized. I spent almost $100,000 translating Russian journals about scientists that were doing this work, both in Japan and Russia, and found out that mitochondrial DNA actually creates light through the process of breaking electrons and protons down from food. And I kept reading it, and the number one thing that I remember from the papers, still to this day, that you had to have oxygen and you had to have electron chain transport working for this to happen. And I was just fascinated by this, and I said, okay, I need to delve into this more. So then I started open physics books and I started

learning more physics. And it was like one thing led to another, kind of like what you do in a podcast. When you get on a story, you go, okay, now we got to go here, now we got to go here, Now we got to go. That's exactly what I did. That's why I'm telling you, I'm a diagnostician. And I, I'm the most curious person you'll ever have on this podcast. You put something in front of me that's a mystery and bro, I'm going to not stop until I figure it out. So that's why I do with this. And then, long story short, after I figured it out and I started using different things to make light in us to improve things, I realized immediately as soon as I knew we made light in us, I had to look for the target of the light. Then I found the target. It was. POMCC. POMC is where melanin is made from. POMC is a gene that only gets translated from UV light. And then I said, okay, this makes sense. Fritz Pop found that every single living cell emits ultra-weak biophotons in the UV light. So you can imagine, as soon as I heard that, I'm like, okay, Bill Gates, dermatologists, and optimologists are assholes because biology is making UV light. That means it's not toxic. That means it's being used for optical photonic signaling that we don't know about. Okay? And I went further. I kept going. That's what I realized what Pomsie was all about.

I had learned about it in medical school. I learned about it in even high school, but I didn't know anything about it. And then I read the monk who sold his Ferrari. I said, yeah, the dude said he went up to the top of the mountain in the cold and he got tan. And all of a sudden, everything started making sense. I was like, oh, I got this. And, you know, all I kept doing is what I told you, diagnostician, go back to first principles. and I started putting it together.

Then I went back to the neurosurgery library and I found this crazy pathway. It's called the Lepton-Milano-Cordon pathway. And I was like, this is the whole shot. You know, and I went down that rabbit hole. And I didn't stop. I kept reading everything I possibly could because you remember, I told you,

Lepton was not discovered until 94. I was already out of medical school by that time. And I learned about that. and I started putting the whole story together and I said, you know what? Light is the biggest part of the story because we're creating light and we absorb light and we have all these proteins in us that are chromophore proteins. I said, God or evolution wouldn't have done this if it wasn't important. You know, I started finding UVA detectors on our cornea and our skin.

I never learned that in medical school. When I saw that, I'm like, there's a story here that hasn't been told. and that's kind of how it all went. You know, for me, translating paper, spending money, and at the end of the 18 months, that's when I stood in front of my family at the time, on Thanksgiving Day, and I said, in one year, I'm going to go from a fat ass

to wear my brother-in-law's jeans, and it happened. So is it true that near-infrared light and red light can actually build new neurons in the eyes and help vision? Yep. Like repair vision. Did you talk to Chantel? No, not about this.

Her dad is the classic example. Oh, wow. I had an ophthalmologist on here, an optometrist, and I was asking him about that. And it was one thing he didn't really know much about. Yeah. Well, most people won't because they haven't read the literature they need to read. Right. But this happened, I think, three years ago.

Chantel's dad was up in my clinic in Louisiana, blowing pine needles out of the gutter. And this guy, just so you know, he's my last. Now he's 83, but at the time this happened, he was 80. He's a Marine, falls off the roof, lands on the ground, he breaks his leg. The reason he breaks his leg, he's got a knee replacement. So if you know anything about a knee replacement, it looks like a metal plate with a keel in it. The keel, when he hits, splits the tibby in half. He also, I thought he may have a concussion.

I thought his eyes looked kind of funny, and he's got AMD. I knew he had AMD, so I was worried that could he have popped the lens out? out or dislocated something. So, of course, I sent him to the hospital. So he goes to the hospital and the orthopedic surgeon tells him, look, because your leg is broken and you have a knee replace it, we're going to have to let the bone heal and then we're going to have to redo your knee. So he's looking at major problems.

Everything else in his head was okay. His eye was fine. No issues. He calls me up two weeks after the injury, and he's in a cast. and he's like, Jack, you've got to do something to help me. I have so much pain and I can't shit. I'm taking the Percocet. I said, Dave, take the keys to my clinic,

go sit in front of the red light that I have for the NFL football players for the concussion. But remember, he's a jar hit. I said, listen to what I'm telling you. Sit in front of the light, put it on 20 minutes through it four times a day. You know, I'm not there. You can use it. No problems. taught him how to turn it on.

I taught him out of program it. I said, but make sure you wear those glasses, the goggles, when you sit in front of him. He didn't listen to me. So what happens? That's another thing I wanted to ask you. What happens? He goes back to the orthopedic surgeon. This was the funny part.

I got a picture from Chantel of her dad on my zero-turn lawnmower, cutting my grass two weeks after this happens. He's like, my leg doesn't hurt anymore. and he goes back to the orthopedic surgeon. The orthopedic surgeon takes an x-ray. Can't find the fracture. Oh, my God. The fracture is healed, and here's the best part. He's walking around in the orthopedic surgeon's office.

He's like, Dave, you don't even have a limp. He goes, I don't think we're going to have to do your knee replacement either. So, Dave's great. Six weeks later, he gets an appointment to go to the optimologist. They look in his eyes. He's still doing the red light, because he says it makes him feel good. great. But he's not wearing the glasses. No, he doesn't have AMD anymore. It's gone. This is a guy that for five years was getting the injections into his eyeball with his doctor. And the doctor

looks in his eye, the ophthalmologist, not an optometrist, an ophthalmologist. Which is a surgeon. Well, right? You call him surgeon. I don't call him surgeons. But the ophthalmologist does eye surgery. Correct. But he looks at him, he goes, there's no evidence that. He's, there's no evidence that you have macular degeneration anymore. They even do a eye test on them. And I'm sitting there and I'm going, bro, I didn't know that this was possible. So what do I do?

I go back and read the literature. Sure is shit. There's papers out there about this issue. Most of them in Japan. Guess who's burying them? Big formal. Wow. See, my friend Dom Dagostino,

he lives in Tampa. I know who he is. You know, Dom? Yeah, he's a ketogenic metabolic guy. Yeah. And he got a grant from the DO. to do research on ketosis for... I know all about it.

Yeah, they were getting the oxygen toxicity seizures from the rebreathers. And he found out by putting him in ketosis, he was able to eliminate the seizures. And now he's doing it with all kinds of people that deal with epilepsy and stuff like that. He would improve his outcome if he actually added UVA light, if he added 380 nanometer light. But you can tell him that I said that or let him listen to the podcast. I told him you were coming in before and I asked him what he thought about you. You said he loved you. He said he really loved your work.

But I'm going to tell you, that's the missing piece for ketosis. The reason why ketosis by itself doesn't work, if you don't have a way to control the mTOR switch, he'll love this. When he listens to it, this answer is for him. Tell him that David Sabatini has lost his Nobel Prize because he doesn't know what I just said. But Dom could potentially steal it now if he does a study. Because, you know, the lady that I just told you that you need to have on, Dr. Alexis Jasmine, Just so you know, she is like, she is like Dom, except here's the difference. She trained at the best metabolic lab in the world.

That's the Rabinowitz Clinic at, I should say, the Rabinowitz Lab at Princeton University. She's like a rock star. The difference between her and every other PhD, remember I told you that Rick wanted me to go on and get Uberman down this road? Yeah. Dude, she's down this road. Really? Yeah, I'm trying to. I told Nicole, Nicole, you got to give her money.

to run this because she wants to run all these light biochemistry stories and fix all the problems. Like the reason Dom's got the belief he's got, it's a half-truth, because nobody's ever done studies utilizing UVA light, irradiation on the skin in the eye while you're doing ketosis. If they did, you'd understand truly how mTOR works. So, for example, Uberman's good friends are Peter Atia. Peter Atia has really, he thinks the world is Sabatini, but he's not smart enough to figure out what I just told you. But guess what? Rick listened to me when he had his heart surgery. And what did I tell Rick to do? Use methylene blue with Peter. The doctor said no, though. Peter Atia said I was

crazy. Then six months later he comes back. He goes, I don't think Jack was so crazy anymore after I looked into it. And see, that's my beef with centralized doctors. Like when I know something, bro, I'm not going to tell one of my friends not to do something that's going to hurt them. Right. And that's, you know, that's how we improve things. And I don't think we can improve those things in the United States because Big Farmer will block this from ever seeing the lighted day. I told you they already blocked my fucking TED talk because I knew I was going to out them on the GLP1 stuff that they were getting ready to do. So just to be clear, if I'm doing red light therapy with the NIR setting on, do I have to wear the glasses or no? I wouldn't wear them. You wouldn't wear, because I don't wear them. I lost them, so I stopped wearing them. I wouldn't wear them. But I'm going to tell you that everybody else to do CYA, they're going to tell you to wear them.

And all the guys cover your ass from like a malpractice suit or a business suit. Yeah, well, when you buy it, it's a big warning on it. The warning is always there because you're protecting the manufacturer. But I would tell you, when you realize that, you know, infrared A and near infrared light are in sunlight, it doesn't take a rocket science to figure out that it's probably okay. The difference is you have to realize that those lights are not. equivalent to the sun. Those lights all flicker and they all have a polarization effect. Any light that comes from there are polarized. Sunlight is unpolarized. Also has no flicker effect. Right. So fake light is never equivalent to sunlight. So people always ask me, Jack, how come you don't have affiliate codes and get paid for red light since you talk about all the time? Now you know the answer why.

Because the real answer is the affiliate code I want is from fucking nature. I love that about you. I think that's so fucking matter. I think that's so fucking matter. I mean, it's the way I roll, bro. It's like I want people, I always say this. Why am I going to sell you? This episode is brought to you by. Right. It drives me crazy. But why settle for a B, C, or D when you got an A available?

And I know there's going to be some people out there, like, who listen to this podcast, say, but Jack, you use the red light in surgery because they don't have a choice. Right. They're not going to let me operate outside. Right. I wish they would. Really? You'll do brain surgery outside?

Fuck, yeah. I'd let another neurosurgeon operate on me if I had to have outside. Are you so confident in your ability to operate on the brain? If it came to it, if you had to operate on my brain right now in this room with all the tools we have available, we have some rigid Home Depot tools and we have a skill saw, would you? Not a problem. You would be able to operate on my brain in here right now. I would tell you, get Chantelle on the phone now and ask you. I famously said, if you train.

trained in charity hospital, I could go down to the cafeteria with a knife and a fork and do a craniotomy. Do you know what Dr. Klein used to do? What's a craniotomy? That's when we take the skull off and do surgery. Let me tell you one of the things that he used to do to us in the middle of our residency. You know that New Orleans has a lot of hurricanes, right? So we lose power. He would walk into a room while we're doing a brain tumor or an epidural and say, okay, we just lost power. He turned the fucking lights off, take all of our power drills away and say, what are you going to do? So, dude, you ever see the stories of from the Civil War how we used to cut legs off

with a giggly saw? What's a giggly saw? It's a saw that has two handles and a blade that wobbles like this. Okay. The only place you see it now is in butchers, and there's no butchers around so you can't see it. But that's how they used to lop off legs. Dr. Klein taught us how to do a craniominy on me with a giggly saw in case there was ever a power. Oh.

Dude. Does that happen? You could lose power in the middle of the ball. brain surgery. I actually can tell you of a case that. Oh, that. Yeah, there you go. See, there you go. Jesus. That, that is an amazing machine. And let me tell you something. When you have a surgeon. For people that are just listening and not watching the visuals, this is like two metal handles with, it looks like barbed wire between them. That's exactly basically what it is. But it's, it's amazing. And when you know how to do it, like, this is the thing that we're losing in medicine. Like, you know how people are talking about AI and they're talking about all these adjunctive things?

This is the kind of shit. You're not going to have neurosurgeons in the future and not how to do this. And the problem is that's what my concern about AI is in medicine. That if we make things so easy that a monkey could do it, then what happens when you're faced with something, when you have to be on the front and think about it to help the patient? Are you doing the best for the patient? my opinion is no. I think the way we're training residents now, totally different. And then, you know, these are things that I talk to Buceli about that I think we need to change in El Salvador.

And I don't really care what people think in America. Because people in America have bought the hook line and sinker from the big tech guys, from big pharma, and also the medical implant industry. Those guys are probably one of the worst gouges in medicine. You know, they got us all believing putting screws. and rods and everything's a good idea. If you go open up Becker's book and realize that that destroys the photoelectric ability of bone, why the fuck are we doing this? I'll tell you why. Right. Johnny Mansell. Incentives dictate outcomes. And you know, the problem is that's, I know that's not something that my specialty board's going to like me saying publicly, but it's

the fucking truth. My mouth's not a bakery. There is sort of a little bit change of subject, but there is a huge interest out there right now in the world and online with people like, you know, there's this huge category of people on the internet right now who are like

Huberman or like Peter Atia that talk about medicine and ways to optimize the body. A lot of young people pay attention to it and people are obsessed with upping their testosterone and doing things not only naturally but like more and I see it

every day, lots of kids in their 20s, 30s, that are going to testosterone injections. It seems like it's the ultimate answer, the fountain of youth to everything. They all have predaninole and steel syndrome. They have what? They all have pregnant, on steel syndrome from their screens. This is the basis of MK Ultra's work. It's what happens. Oh, yes, my friend.

It destroys your sex steroid hormones by design. And you know how we can make a prediction? What destroys your sex? The blue light. The blue light, right. Yeah, yeah. Blue light screens, non-80 VMF, RF microwaves, take it all the way. But what do you make about the sort of obsession right now with young people and the testosterone therapy?

You're not listening to me. They're obsessed with tech, therefore that's why they're obsessed with that. Okay, I see what. Fix the tech addiction, then you fix that problem. But guess what happens? When you take something your body naturally makes, you uncouple the system, you're setting yourself for problems down the road. So, for example, let's use Rogan as an example. because this is a good one. So Rogan uses it, gets jacked. He's in a podcast studio all the time, right? He's

at USC stuff. He's doing stuff at night. So he jacks it up. I guarantee you that what he's not telling you, he's having to donate blood sometimes. He probably has something called polycythemia. What's that? That's when you have too much red blood cell mass. And you always have to check it out. That's thickens your blood? Correct. You get clots? You think that's a good idea as you get older? No. Well, guess what? And then, here's the worst part. Bobby Kennedy said that he's on it too. Yeah. Well, Bobby's 70 years old. That's a little different story, but here's the other problem. When you're constantly in front of the blue light, this problem is going to be a huge issue.

So what's the best way for you to deal with it? Add back the light you're missing, subtract the light that's a problem. I'm not saying that you still can't take it, but what you don't realize, the magnitude of the problem, like when somebody tells me that they're on testosterone since their 20s, bro, that tells me their system is completely false. How does it affect the brain? For men, it improves your cognition. It improves your cognition. Absolutely. That's the reason why people are very interested in it.

Like most guys are interested in it. Yes. But I think you'll be in a very interesting situation because when you bring people in here, you should ask every single guy that comes in here if they're taking testosterone or not. And then when you do the podcast with them, what's your gut feeling about? Is this person able to think? can they put things together? Like, I'm going to tell you something.

In the world that Rogen's in, these guys use the facade as their story. I'm going to tell you, we don't bury our Midecondri in our facade. We buried here and here. These are the two things that also kill us. You're pointing to your brain and your heart. Correct. Those are the two things that kill us, too, more than anything else. Yeah, absolutely.

So you'll be very shocked to know. Many of these guys that use testosterone, they don't live as long as they should. I mean, think about all the NFL players. They die early. You know, all the guys in wrestling, they die early. They all look jacked, right? But it turns out, if you go to the super sentinarians that are in Albert Einstein, taken care of by near Barras law, you'll find out.

They're a little short Jewish guys that have belly fat and their leptin levels are up. But guess what? People forget this key point, Danny. You said you're a dad. When that baby came out of your wife's vagina, It couldn't talk. It couldn't walk. It couldn't walk.

All right. That's even worse. What? Yeah, it's terrible. Why? Absolutely terrible. Forget. That's another podcast.

She has no choice. She's so little that she would have like, I think, I don't think she would have survived. Oh, there's, there's so much we could talk about there. Okay. We'll save it for dinner. Her placenta determines that. And believe it or not, the cabinoid system, you know, weed that's in you. That's actually what makes the decision whether the baby fits out or not.

That's a story for another day. But here's the cool part I have so many questions, Jesus Christ Okay, go ahead Here's the cool part of the story The baby is a ball of fat But what does society tell us That subcutaneous fat is a real problem

What does the baby do with that fat? It unwinds the fat and forms a brain The brain doesn't fully form Until it's 28 years old Remember, you don't myelinate your frontal lobes Until you're 28 That's why you can't rent a car Or rent a hotel room until you're 25.

Did you know that? Yeah, I did know that, but I didn't know that was why. That's the reason why, because you're too crazy. So the point I'm trying to make to you, think about the obesity crisis now, the way Rogan doesn't think about it. Why do we have this? We have people getting fatter and fatter because things like we talked about before, about the gLP1 drugs and big pharma.

But when you put subcutaneous fat in, what are you doing? You're actually protecting the mass of your brain. And what do we know about children? They're more susceptible to non-native EMF. Why? Because they don't have as much myelin. The more myelin you have, the better able you're to protect yourself. So guess what? What is myelin again? Milon is the covering of the brain. Got it. Meaning the nerves. That insulation, like if we're talking about wires, it's the black plastic on the outside. Got it. That's the thing that gets destroyed in MS. gets destroyed. So when you put this all together, you start to go, so this is a protection system of the little baby when it's being formed.

So when the baby comes out, maybe we should start thinking about obesity a little bit different. Is the obesity crisis telling us something about MK Ultra? Yep. That's why it's happening. There's an impetus in the environment that's causing us to put subcutaneous fat because we're constantly around the wrong fucking light. Right. And guess what happens? The placenta in humans, that's exactly what the mother does.

if you think about your wife when she was pregnant with your baby, remember the first 19 weeks, she only had a little pooch, but she had a flat belly for most of it. All the organ systems are being built in that time, but the baby has no subcute fat. Do you know when the baby gets all the subcute fat? The last trimester. Do you know what controls that?

Leptin in the fucking placenta sends only blue light to the baby subtracts out UV and red. You know those biophotons we talked about? it's fattening the baby up so that it can heal its brain after it comes out of the vagina because guess what

if it had a fully formed brain it wouldn't fit out the vagina right got it so when you begin to see that nature actually does have some insight

about why everybody's getting fat now it's because everybody's being tech abused by the industrial military complex that's why they canceled Becker. Right. But how much of the obesity epidemic? Like what percent would you give it?

90 percent. 10 percent for food. Like you're going to have Cali Means in here probably down the road. He's going to tell you exactly the opposite. Cali Means doesn't know shit about Becker or anything else. I just sat down with Nicole and Mary Bowden. And we had a discussion at dinner. I'm not going to disclose what he said, but I have a huge problem with, you know,

his sister who went to Stanford Medical School and didn't finish her residency. That tells me something's up there. And they want to pound big food. I'm all about pounding big food because I think they're full of shit too. But bro, blaming them is a front for the industrial military complex. Right. The real problem is tech abuse. And let me tell you what I said in Rick's podcast.

I said it in multiple podcasts. Every time we have 10% increase in tech spending in the United States, the N. Haines data for obesity goes up 10%. Explain. Wow. You want to hear something else? Nina Tickholz, who's cut from the same cloth as Dom Dagastino. She's a Ph.D. researcher.

She wrote a really good book. She posted something on Twitter last week, about 1980, the food pyramid and all that. And I said, isn't this convenient that you use 1980 because it suits your goal? I said, look at my chart. And my chart went with the N. Haynes data all the way back to 1893. when we electrified the surface of the earth. And you know what you'll notice? I'm right.

The food thing is a little bump. I'm telling you, it plays a role. But it ain't a big role. Right. Well, there's also the phenomena. I had another guy in here telling me he did this study on the world's blue zones. Yeah, damn butner. Yeah.

Total bullshit. Really? Where people live the longest. One of them is like Costa Rica, Nosara, Costa Rica, where it's the same. That is true because the sun is there. But guess what? Most of the places, like, for example, one of the Blue Zone is supposed to be the area around Loma Linda where all the seventh age Venice are and they eat Kellogg's cereals all day.

Total bullshit. Go talk to anybody. He also talked about Okinawa. Okinawa Blue Zone, it's all manufactured. Dan Butner is another guy that I will tell you, my opinion, he's also part of the problem. It was very interesting when he came out. So, of course, you know, guy like me, based on our time, here together in the podcast. You know that I fact-checked that. None of it's true. Interesting.

That's what I said. You have to, look, who packs your parachute, Danny is so incredibly important in this. Why? Because remember what's at stake. You know, hopefully you get a little flavor for Uncle Jack now. I value your time more than you value your time. The way I talk about it, I'm telling you, I want you to focus in on what's going to give you the most time back. I don't want you to focus in on the shit that they can make money off of it. That's the reason why these guys sell supplements. They sell this, they sell that. No. Functional medicine doctors are doing the same thing centralized medical doctors are doing. They're using pharmaceutical drugs through the prescription pad. The functional medicine guys are selling you in powders and all kinds of bullshit. So what's the best way to

carry your heart in your brain, in your opinion? What's the best protocol that you live by? Other than eliminating the screens. Sunrise every day. Watch the sunrise. 80% Pareto's principle, you do that. It's incredibly important because it sets the circadian clock in your eye. Second most important thing, I think, is make sure you eat a diet that's based on the circadian biology. So, for example, here in Tampa, if it grows in Tampa, you eat it. If it doesn't grow in Tampa, you don't eat it. That's hard because anywhere you go, even if you buy, like, we're surrounded by the ocean, right? And you buy fish and fish are grown on farms. It's like salmon. All the salmon that you get in any kind of restaurant here. But do you understand why it's in

farms around here because all the runoff from the pesticides, which is one of the points that Bobby makes. He's right about that. You know, so you have to realize how these things fit together, but I'm still going to tell you, eating farmed fish is actually still better than eating probably grass-fed meat from Iowa. And the reason why is the DHA content is higher in fish, exponentially so. And the reason I say that as a neurosurgeon, you have more DHA, which acts as a semiconductor in that central retinal pathway than any other part of your brain. Why? Because the clock in your eye has to run faster than the rest of the clocks in your body. Why, whose rule is that? Not Jack Cruz's rule. Einstein. That's a consequence of general and special relativity. So how do you know

this works? So you get it? This cell phone, all right, has GPS on it. You know that. It allows you to get everywhere. Right. The Garmin satellite that controls this phone is 80,000 kilometers above the surface, it runs 38 microseconds faster than the clock's on the ground. Time travel. That's it, bro. So guess what? The clock that controls everything in you, the master clock, which is at the top of your body, runs faster than every other else.

The only way you can do that, you have to have a higher current in it, and we use a semiconductor current to do it. Wow. Science, bro. Decentralized science. You talk a lot about cold and how cold can help create light inside the body. Do you put any weight or credibility into like these cold plunges people are doing, this cold water therapy? I have no problem with it, but you got to remember, I wrote my cold thermogenesis protocol before anybody did it.

That includes Wim Hof, 2005. And you said you had a problem with Wimhoff. Yeah, his breathing technique is total bullshit. I mean, and that's what he's claimed to fame is. I have never really called him out on it because my belief is Wim's a good guy. I do think he's a good guy. If he's bringing people to cold, I'm okay with it. But I have different people who get the breathing thing right, like Erwin Lecore.

He's spectacular on the breathing technique. So if you use Irwin's breathing technique and you use Wim's protocol, great. My protocol is very simple. It's been on my website from the beginning. Just realized, cool sculpting. When centralized plastic surgery got on the cold game, their patent, their first patent is in 2008. I wrote mine in 2005 and I put it on the internet for free. So you have the choice.

How did I figure out the cold story? Every mammal has the mammalian dive reflex. Yes. That's actually how it works. Can you explain that for people who don't know? Yeah. When a baby comes out of its mother, we were designed to be born in water. So the best way to think about it is the Nirvana album cover, you know, that has come as you are on it.

You see the baby swimming in there. The baby will not take a breath in while the cold water is a real. around it. Now, when it comes to the surface, because of its fat, it floats. That's when it takes its first breath. Cold is built into every single mammal, and it goes back to when the age of mammal started, you know, which I talked about in the Euberman podcast. But it's present in us. We are the one mammal that doesn't really use it like we should. Why? Because what are the two metrics that circadian biology works on? Light and dark and temperature. People always forget. the temperature part. And that's where cold plays a role. And it turns out we have a metabolic

switch in our eye called endothelial nitric oxide synthetase. Remember? We talked about nitric oxide earlier. The crazy part of the nitric oxide story, everybody knows that when you make it from UVA light or infrared light, it can help with blood pressure. But you know what nobody else tells you? Dropping the bomb here now for the people who haven't read the Patreon, nitric oxide controls the stem cell depose in your body. So how do you replace bad cells? Like you don't go to the regenerative medicine guy down the street and get an injection. You learn to use nitric oxide. So you get in the sun. That's the best way to do it. And what do you do? That's how you actually take out the bad cells called apoptosis, cell suicide. How do you replace them? The same free radical signal does that. And what do you need to do it?

You need 380 nanometer light and you need 1280. Aren't those two lights that we're talked about earlier. Mm-hmm. Hmm. So he talks about the, so Wim Hof, he talks a lot about the breathing, and then him and Huberman as well talk about the cold. And you mentioned the mammalian dive reflex, but how does freezing somebody, how does freezing your body?

Cold. Like that. How could that possibly be good? No, it's really good. And I'll explain to you why. You have to know a little bit of science, but I'll use basic ideas so you get it. So if we send Steve out right now, my iPhone, and we put it on the hood of the car that drove me here, and we left it in the Tampa sun, would I get a temperature warning on this? Yes.

And then I could put that thing in the freezer and work right away, right? Semiconductive circuits work better by cold. Remember, we don't, you're thinking about your F-250 that you turn the key when it's 22 degrees in Tampa that happens once a year in December or January. That's a different kind of current. That's a DC electric current. That builds resistance up in a line that's different. Semiconductive currents work better in the cold. Here's where the key metric is.

When we are in the cold, all mammals, we turn on the sympathetic nervous system. The sympathetic nervous system activates the leptin-melano-quartin pathway. What happens? We take our fat in the subcue space, bring it to the mitochondria, and we create huge amounts of light. That's for its pops work. So guess what? That allowed us, unlike the Neanderthals, to live at higher latitudes than they did. That's why we persisted and they died off.

And how did we do that? The difference between humans and Neanderthals is we shrunk our brain. So on a relative basis, we have 125 grams less brain tissue. But what does that mean? Than Neanderthals? No, right. We actually are cognitively devolved compared to them in terms of volume. But you know what that did?

When we shrunk the neurons, we raised the amount of melanin and water at the same time. So guess what melanin and water do? It's the ultimate battery in humans. Why? Because what did I tell you? Anytime light hits melanin, it creates electrons, hydrogen, and oxygen. And we create more electrons from that interaction than chlorophyll does with sunlight. Chlorophyll, the first step of photosynthesis only creates two electrons.

Melanin, the minimum is four, but it can create way more because it's a wide band semiconductor. You heard me say that multiple times to Euberman. When you have a wide band semiconductor, it means that there's more possibilities for light to be created. And that's the reason why melanin got expanded from the KT event to us. So if you remember, and in the podcast that we talked to him, I try to be provocative with his stupid little cephalopods that he talked about that are in his lab. And I said, bro, it's amazing to me that you can use these cephalpods. You see their brain and all the light in there. What do they do with their melon?

They spit it out to protect themselves. I said, what happened in 650 million years from the K-Marin explosion when cephal pods evolved? We kept all our melanin and we put it inside our body. We don't use it anymore. In fact, we do. Most of that melanin is in our B and T cells. We use that as our immune system, fight off pathogens. That's how it works.

And when you cut the brain open, you don't see the light show you like you see incephalponds, we rectify all the currents a la Robert Becker because the currents are doped. So we have small little atoms in there that actually change the different frequencies. That's exactly what the guys in Silicon Valley do. You know, at AMD or Intel, they all have doped silicon semiconductors. We have doped carbon-based semiconductors. So that's how we create different light frequencies. The dopant that's present in bone that Becker found is copper.

We have two copper atoms that are between collagen and appetite, and that allows us to have the semiconductor current. And they're only electrostatically bound. What does that mean? When you put a human up into space or your Elon Musk, you're going to knock those two electrons off, and you're going to get space osteoporosis. So the osteoporosis that you get in space isn't the osteoporosis

that your grandmother gets down here. It's a little bit different. Right. So that tells you, just like Becker said, this is why he told the government they were wrong about what they believed. He said, I know what's going on. And he goes, I know why those Russian astronauts died in 1971 in the Soya's capsule because they stayed up there too long and they all got horrible osteoporosis. Right. That's the reason why, bro.

Yeah. That's what I said. I'm trying to. You're kind of like blowing my, like when you hear Elon talking about us becoming an interplanetary species and then I listen to you talk about this stuff, it doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't. I don't know how human beings could survive on Mars. Bro. They're going to be there, but they're going to be sick as fucking shit and they're never coming back because you're going to die there. Right. Now, I will tell you, is it theoretically

possible? Yeah. When we create an alien magnetic field that supports our life, because that's what you're missing. And then you deliver light frequencies that we get on Earth, remember, you're also going to have to build an artificial ionosphere. Yeah, terraform an atmosphere. Correct. So, bro, how about we do that shit before we send somebody up there? But you know why? You have to remember something.

This will be a nice tie-in for what we talked about before. Elon Musk is an engineer. Do you know who else was an engineer? General Gross. Do you know that he was a product engineer that worked for the Army Corps of Engineers? Do you think he made mistakes? Now, he was able to build a nuclear bomb, just like Elon Musk, built SpaceX and can get rockets back and forth.

I'm trying to tell you, he's a talented guy. But is he got everything together? Did General Gross have it together? And what did I tell you? If you have something wrong, can you be a product engineer, make a bomb, steal science, and turn out to be worse than Hitler? I did say that, didn't I? So what am I trying to tell you as a young guy?

I'm trying to kill all your heroes. Like, let me explain to you. Steve Jobs, right? Hardware guy, dead before he's 60. Paul Allen, software guy from Microsoft, dead at 62. Hal Finney, unbelievable guy in Bitcoin, dead before 60 years. All billionaires. You think they're great.

I think it's the biggest epic field to have $9 billion and not be able to spend the time with your kids or your family. Right. But guess what? I think about that all the time. Well, guess what? I went to Prague, to Bitcoin Prague, to discuss. Those three guys. And you already heard how I got the story, how I value time.

I got it from that kid with the franchise. Dude, it didn't fucking magically come into me. This is all entanglement from my career. What my job is, when I come do a podcast like this, I'm trying to get in there and take off my wooden shoes. They're called Saboze. That's where the word sabotage comes from. And throw them into your clock gears.

I want you to think better than you did before I walked in that room and dropped my suitcases up. He said, let's go. Before Steve said, we're live. I want you to think about some of the things that we're talking about. Why? Because I think you have a duty to me now and a duty to the public. When you have other people come in here, you've got to start asking some good questions. You say, okay, you're allowed to say that, Mr. Newman.

But talk to me about what Jack just said here. How's this change? Like, go back. That's what we do in M&M conference. M&M conference is morbidity and mortality. So if we do something bad to somebody, we all get up in a room and they fucking pound us. I want you to start doing that on a podcast. Somebody comes in here and you know that they're selling you a line of bullshit.

Hit them. Don't be scared. Your audience is going to love you. Now, some people are going to be loud on your YouTube comments and tell you you're an asshole and Jack did something to you and he should have never done that. bro, that's okay. I'm that guy. I'd be the first one to tell you. I like to be agent provocateur, but I'm going to tell you, failures create our success. Wounds create our wisdom. We don't learn anything from success. Right. That's the message. Man in the arena. Correct. And when the government's giving you circus maximus, run away. What can you tell by somebody? You're good at diagnosing people.

What can you tell by someone by just looking in their eyes? Well, when I do an ophthalmoscopic exam, remember, the retina itself is a dieencephalon. It's actually part of your brain. Most people don't know that. You know, it's actually brain surgery, and I'm actually able to examine your brain. Things that I'm looking for, I'm looking at your optic disc. I'm looking at your fovea. That's where your central vision is, but I'm very interested on what's happening right around your fovea with your ophthalmic artery.

That tells me how much blue light toxicity you got. Your pupillary reflex, I use three different lights to check it. Okay? What am I looking for? I'm looking for evidence that your midbrain is involved with tech abuse. Then I'll do some other things. Like if I put the light in your eye and you sneeze, that tells me you have a problem with myelination in your olfactory cortex in your brain.

Well, yeah, when I go out in the sun, I often sneeze. It tells me that you've got it. got an issue. It also tells me something else. You have a problem with creating vasopressin from the posterior pituitary. It means that you got too much light on at night. So I can tell a lot, but these are all things that centralized doctors. They don't know and they don't check. And I will tell you, I didn't check any of these things until 20 years ago. 20 years ago is when I realized that there was a lot of fat on the bone that we have to teach people. And that's kind of what I do with my doctor members. I teach them that. You know, I do all these Patreon blogs all the time.

Right. And if you follow my Twitter handle, I mean, I blow people's minds daily with Twitter stuff, but I do it for that reason. I'm not trying to show people that I know more than they do. I'm trying to get people motivated that what you've been told is horseshit, upgrade your game. Right. There was an interesting thing you guys also brought up about, you're talking about Jackson Pollock. And when you said you're trying to heal people and fix their brains and fix people's ailments, you're often taking away certain gifts they have. Yes. And that reminds me, especially when you brought up Jackson Pollock, there was a book I read about neuroplasticity with Weasel.

And I forget the guy. One of the guy's name was something Weasel. These two scientists that figured out neuroplasticity, figured out that it goes way past. Like conventional theory is that it, neuroplasticity ends in like your early teens or before that maybe but it ends way past that right yeah and the number one thing the point that i try to bring if to you ran to his credit he did bring up the other doc you're talking about i think it's um merzinovich which was one of his mentors and this guy died but he's really big into why we got cochlear implants and also his original research that clued us into this was on the median nerve and i told you

you, Dr. Klein, he's the world expert in peripheral nerve surgery in the world. He's now like 90 years old, probably close to death if he's not dead already. But his work actually as a young resident taught me that the dominant paradigm belief, because I was taught that the brain doesn't change, that guy's research told me that was bullshit. The single most important thing I try to bring to Euberman is that there's no more plastic part of the neurologic system than melanin. Melanin is neuroplastic to light like that, bro. And everybody should get that. You remember you heard in the same podcast when Rick said, yeah, I leave Costa Rica and I go to

Malibu and I lose my tan. And then I talked to reverse of that. Remember the black lady? And why is that? Vidaligo. Yes, yes. Right? We switched that around.

The reason I did those things because I realized that there's things that are in us. They're way more plastic than not. And it turns out the things that are the most plastic are the things that get us better. And that was the tie-in for me with Becker. Because Becker found that the source of all regeneration is the DC electric current takes red blood cells and turns them into the cell you need. The key is you have to have the right light to get the right current to get the right cell. And it doesn't matter what cell it is. And I've already told you the interesting thing, we do this with red blood cells and bone.

My belief is that we're using stem cells to do it with other tissues. And if you don't create the right light, you don't get the right current, then you don't get the regeneration. And that's what we see with people that say have quiescence or have senescence. Those are people that they can't make any more stem cells from their body. And they get it. And that's what most of the people who have had osteoporosis for probably the last 50 or 60 years get their bones are senescent because they don't have any stem cells left inside their marrow. And that's an unfortunate situation. The reason why that's important to understand is the more that we're involved in a tech life, you're depleting stem cells.

Right. So that means you can't live long. So if you want to follow these longevity guys, and I think they're all fucking shysters. Even the guys that are running the stem cell things where they're saying take your baby and get your placenta of your baby. Yeah, I'm okay with that, but don't listen to me anything else because they don't know their ass from their elbow. And none of them know, like every single stem cell that's frozen should be, instead of being frozen, should also have a UV light and infrared A light inside the freezer. But we don't have that. We don't have that because you'll extend the shelf life. You know, like we talk about preservatives and food, you know, that keep like, you know, McDonald's hamburgers for 14 years.

They need to start thinking about doing that with stem cells. And I believe light is how we do it. And, you know, people listen to this podcast and say that's crazy. You may not know this, but your wife, when she was born, I should say before she was born, all the eggs that she'd ever produced was in her within four or five weeks of her being in her mother. And she's kept all those eggs up until she has the last period for how long? Guess what hormone picks the eggs, leptin. It's the leptin melanocorin pathway. Wow.

That's what I said. When you see it, and you know that Nicole's big into human, for, you know. Fertility, especially female fertility. Well, Alexis Jasmine, the same way. Fertility is also tied to this, which came into your testosterone story. So when the kids, the boys put their phone in their front pocket, they're irradiating all their swimmers. Not only they're destroying their testosterone, but they're killing their germ cells. Remember, those germ cells, like you have all these idiots that come and do podcasts about artificial intelligence.

If you ask them, artificial intelligence has no target. You know what I tell people? You know what artificial intelligence really is? It's your kids. Your kid is part your wife, part you. He's a fucking alien. And you don't think about it that way, but guess what? What are we doing to our kids?

We think, okay, after four or five years, we put them in daycare. They're getting irradiated in daycare, then we put them in school. And we're radiating there. Are we really taking care of our stem cells or our artificial intelligence when we do that? Right. But that's what the transhumanist want you to do. And what did I say to you before? If you're going to bank your eggs because you're a tech abuser because you're infertile,

maybe you need to take care of the eggs better than you took care of them. And we're not doing that. Right. So guess what? When we take an egg out and do IVF after it's been frozen, why does anybody think that's a good idea when you understand what I'm telling you right here? Yeah, that's interesting. I actually recently had a biological anthropologist on here a couple weeks ago,

and he was explaining to me that there's a, there's a lot of debate about IVF, and they're saying, like you're selecting against nature when you're doing that. You are. I totally agree with that. And this is the reason why I will even tell you, and this was the punch in the mouth

that I had to deliver to Nicole. I said, you realize that you and Sergey, your previous life, what you did, you ruined your germ cells. That's why that baby has got what it's got. Now that she's out, you got to do reverse all the things that you guys did. And dude, this was a straight punch in the mouth there.

I was not kind about it. But when she said to me about the $100 million, I said, I didn't want it. I said, but I'll tell you what I want you to do. I said, I want you to give $5 million to Anjin Kata to make the blue light computer that blocks all the blue light. Because your husband's trying to put him out of business and all his friends in Silicon Valley. She did that. And then I said, go talk to Francisco Gonzalez Lehman in University of Texas. She gave him $20 million to start.

study red light and autism. Once she did that, she proved to me that she wasn't a douchebag. So what did I do? Then I wrote my seminal ideas about how autism really forms. And I put it in a blog for Quantum Engineering 45. I gave it to Nicole before I gave it to anybody else. Is this online? Yeah, it's on my Patreon.

In fact, when I sat down with Andrew Wakefield and Mary Bowden two days ago in Dallas, I gave both of them a copy. I said, if you want to see where I'm, I think it comes from. And I think Andy was very interesting because to his credit, he said, look, in 98, when they canceled me, he goes, what we thought the state of

autism was back then, it was tied to the gut. Because remember, he's a gastroenterologist. He says, I realize the science has changed a lot. And he's out of the doctoring game now because they took his career from him. Now he makes movies. But to his credit, and you tell it, he's a brilliant guy who's just got

fucking shoot up because he didn't have Becker talk to him. We need people like him. You know, because guess what? His insights, the way he thinks, it may have been atrophied because now he's making movies because the movies that he's making is actually telling the story. Like, he just came up with a, came out with a movie called Protocol 7. I would suggest every parent watches it. And we just need to teach.

people, instead of vilifying people, even if you don't agree with us, it's, you know, the mark of an educated mind to take something you don't fully believe or understand and examine it for yourself, then make a decision. If you, if you give crazy a shot, like a lot of my people do, and it works, all I ask you to do, what's your payment to me? Go tell somebody else. That's it. It's all I need you to do. Yeah, real quick, there's two things I want to get to before we wrap it up. We're coming up on like four hours. The book I was telling you, I was reading about neuroplasticity. It was about those two guys who wrote that paper.

I think it was in like the 60s maybe. I know who you're talking about. Yeah, you know who I'm talking about. Anyways, they mentioned famous artists of the past and like how their, whatever was wrong with them or wrong with their brains affected how good they were at creating art. Pollock, obviously, you know, alcoholic and, Low dopamine.

Low dopamine. They made a case for Picasso, which was fascinating. Yeah, well, remember, he had a huge problem, sex addiction. And a lot of people don't know this. But we've talked about on the periphery, this is the stuff that hit the floor in Rick's podcasts. The sex addictions, the homosexuality, the rise of this is actually because your hypothalamus gets bigger. there's now papers out there that show that people have misgendering, transgendering, transgendering, things like that.

Yeah. Their hypodomus is larger. And if you know anything about thermodynamics, anytime a tissue loses energy, it gets bigger. So you always hear me talk about your ankle, the sun, your heart, when they all fail. Yeah, you blow up. Right. Same thing happens with your hypotheraumas, and that's where all your sex steroid hormones are. So there's now proof that this thing.

is actually tied to changes in the leptin-melano-court and pathway. So we are selecting out not to have children. So what are we effectively doing with this transhumanist idea? They know this. That's the reason they're big supporters. You talk to Nicole. Nicole said something to me during dinner the other night that really, I hope she says it in more podcast. But she said Sergey didn't care what happened to echo, like after she was born. And that is such a transhumanist idea that the target of- Echo's their kid? Yeah.

It's a baby girl. Nicole's whole left-wing liberal personality changed because of this baby. Like that was her punching them out. Right. He still gives two fucks about this kid. But that's what the transhumanist that's involved in tech, that's really, what the basis of the marshmallow experiment's all about. They just don't get it. And they never will. And they've been bred this way. And they're not going to change. And the only way they change is if

they have something in their life kind of like what happened with Nicole. And Nicole now is doing everything different. I mean, I wish I could have had that phone call. And you know, the funny thing is, Danny, you have an opportunity Shantel listened to that phone call because I had it on speakerphone. I never put any things up to my ear. Ask Chantel just how brutal I was. I was fucking brutal.

And I was like, here you're asking me for help for your kid and you're ruining the whole planet. That's kind of how I answered her question. I went nuts on her. And to her credit, she took it. And I think she took it. And I think she took it because Echo was a bigger punch.

And she's like, clearly, I did something wrong here. Clearly, there's something going on. And she was really motivated to find out about it and so motivated that she left her liberal ideology. And look at what she's doing now. Now she's actually telling people to vote for Trump. Literally, four years ago, she was donating millions of dollars the other way. Like crazy. And, you know, everybody in the DNC thinks she's fucking crazy.

But what I'm telling you, that's actually what happened to me 20 years ago when I had my come to Jesus moment. I'm like, look, when you realize everything you believe is a fucking lie, it's an existential crisis. Like, you have to sit down and figure this shit out. And, you know, for everybody, Danny, it's going to be different. You know, what brings us to the table? Who knows? There may be some things that we said in this podcast where people listen to and go. Right.

But that's what it's supposed to do. That's what life's about. Life is about the constant search of discovery and being curious and never thinking you have it all together. Like I tell you, every day I learn something. And if I'm not learning something, then I think I'm dead. Right. That's how I look at it. Have you seen this, I don't know if it's newer now, but I just saw this yesterday on YouTube.

There's this skin pigment. They can put on your skin to make. invisible. Yeah. How, is that a new thing? And how, it's like a yellow thing that makes your skin see through. Yeah. Can you pull up a video of it, Steve?

We use different things. Like, when you have burn patients, you may not know this, we use tilapia skins to do that. And believe it or not, it actually helps burn patients. But you have to realize our skin is optimized for our biology. Just like fishes are optimized for theirs. Remember, they're in a different environment. They're in liquid water. and we are, you know, silly talking monkeys that live on the surface of the planet, but there

is an optical density of your skin. Remember what you're saying. When they use something like this, yeah, look at that. Yeah. When they use something like this, what are they trying to do? They're actually trying to get you usually past an acute trauma until you come back. Like, you'll be shocked because I've been talking about bad shit about blue light all the time. Do you know what one time Uncle Jack loves blue light is when you have a burn victim. You put blue light on a burn victim. You know what it does? It stimulates the skin to grow faster, which is the reason why blue light causes skin cancer, because that's the truth. But believe it or not, when someone has a burn, using blue light, unopposed blue light, actually causes the burn to heal faster because you're stimulating repair.

One of the things that I've talked to several burn trauma surgeons about, that I believe when they do use the blue light, they need to add the 380 light for the reason I told you before, because nitric oxide talks to the stem cells in the skin to even redo it faster. And one of the things that people who don't use the UV light have noticed, the skin that comes back after you use the blue light always has less pigment in it. And I think the reason for that is because the way nature wants this done, it needs not only the nitric oxide stimulus, but it also needs the UV stimulus to turn pomcy on. Why? Because POMCY has to migrate into the new skin as it's growing.

Because that's exactly what happens when you're forming in your mother. You know, as the neural axis grows, you have neural crest cells migrating through their tracks to get where they need to be. We don't have melanin every single spot in our body. We have it in key spots. Like when you see somebody has dopamine problems with Parkinson's, we know it's a substantia nigra. But there's parts of your body. You don't really have a lot of melanin. And some people are surprised to find out, like over our calf muscle and over our rectus abdominis, which is our six-back muscle, we have more pompsi in that skin and anywhere else.

And think about why that makes sense. Because in humans compared to gorillas or monkeys, we shrunk our gut 30 feet. Right. That's why it's there. And we walk up right. That's where we have it in our Achilles tendon. Because it changed those things, which is what I said in the room. Whoa.

Yeah. It was just what I. I said in the... That's fucking wild. Well, I said that, though, in the Rubin podcast. Like, these are the collateral effects of light-scolting life. I must have spaced out during that time because I don't remember that. Well, no, I said it very cautiously because people have always assumed in the anthropology world that we're going to find a missing link.

And if you understand what I said in the Uberman podcast, you're not. Because what's the difference between us and them is Pomsy. It's Melanin. there is no transitional apes. What do you think we're going to look like in 100,000 years if we survive if there's no cataclysm that wipes out humanity? Do you think we're going to look like these little gray aliens that people talk about? Fat bastard.

Fat? You don't think we're going to get... No, you know that movie? Oh, fat from Austin Powers? Yeah. You think we're going to like that in 100,000 years? Yeah, because, I mean, think about what's happening. I already told you that we're tech abusers, so we're going to get bigger.

I also think what will happen is, well, dumb down, there'll be. part of society that runs the whole system and we're going to use AI technology to dumb us down further. In other words, you're going to be. We don't have to think. We don't have to think. And if you don't have to think, it's it's not a good place to be because the world will be driven by those who can think. And to be honest, this is another fractal that takes us back to the first hour of the podcast. That's really what the industrial military complex wants. They want to be the wizard behind the curtain like Steve is while where all the fat bastards walking around the earth doing what they need.

You know what I also, I think there's a connection between some of these blue zone areas of the world, these underdeveloped parts of the world. I feel, I don't know if this makes sense for longevity, but I feel more alert, more awake, more alive. I just feel better when I'm in a country, when I'm driving around, not just stopping at red lights and stop signs and just waiting for the light to tell me when to go. When I literally have to look for cars to stay alive to make sure that I'm driving in a way that's going to keep me alive versus driving in traffic here. Think about what you just said. You just proved my point.

That makes me feel good. That's the Oracle effect of modern life. And you don't realize what you're designed to do is go run on the tectonic plates and run under a tree, sit there and capture all the biophotons that come off the light through the leaves. You don't do. You don't do that anymore. And then when you think about the car, you're sitting in a car, glass blocks all the UV and 40 to 60% of the red. So unless you roll the window down or open the moon roof, you're fucked. Right. So you are having an alien experience in the car. Yeah. And that's the reason why you feel that way. What are your feelings controlled? Melatonin and dopamine, serotonin. These are all aromatic amino acids that absorb light. Like everything always comes back to light. The problem is the idiots that

you listen to, they don't know that. Yeah, nobody talks about it. Well, dude, I've been talking about for 20 years. Probably more than anybody, honestly. The circadian rhythm and getting access to the sunlight. A lot of people talk about, like, the muscle is important for maintaining your glycogen and your energy stores. People don't even know that in muscle, the single most important thing is actually dopamine.

Dopamine controls the fiber type. The fiber type controls the glycogen stores. They don't even get that right. Dude, all these paleo meatheads, like, for example, Dom. Dom listens to all this stuff. He's been a bodybuilder his whole life. I know, but you've got to realize that is, that's his half truth. And the thing is, I'm going to tell him his longevity is not going to be buried when his biceps are big. He's a smart guy. Hopefully he's going to wake up down the road and say, I need to begin to optimize the mitochondria of my heart and my brain. Can you do both at once? No, because it's a zero-sum game. What I mean by that? Energy, Remember from the first law of conservation of energy. It can't be created or destroyed. So because what you're doing with mitochondria, if you put it where it's not supposed to be,

you're stealing from where it's supposed to be. This is the reason why. I don't know if you remember one of my good friends. He's dead now, but he's a guy like Dom, Charles Polakwin. And I always warned him when he was doing the things he's doing. I'm like, Charles, I know this whole physique thing with you. I said, I'm telling you, you're going to get taken out like your first thing. family members did and it's going to happen before you're 60 and bro he argue with me up and down

and he's he did a lot of things outside but he just didn't do enough spent too much time inside too much time with tech he died of 58 years old at heart tech and he looked like in michael angelo's you know david so the point that i'm trying to make to you i've tried to make it to several of my critics online recently i did it with dr alexis cowen jasmine uh When you have a physique like that, go and find me, anybody who's 85 years old that looks like that. You're going to find like not a lot of people. Right, but it does, I mean, muscle atrophies when you get older, your testosterone's lower. Stop.

Think about what you just said. Muscle atrophies are you low. What is nature telling you? Everything atrophies. The brain atrophies, right? Not all. Not true. No?

Einstein, when he died at 76 years old, brain was not atrophied. That's not true. And I'm going to tell you, that's the interesting part. of this story. I'm kind of glad you went down this path. I didn't think we were going to, but I'm going to tell you that you need to really understand that the body plan of mammals, you know the whole category of mammals. When you go to the Museum of Natural History in New York, you see tons of them, and they look all different, and they all have different issues. You know what determines, this is the really f***ed up thing about biology. There's something called Kleber's Law.

Cleber's Law basically says the lifespan of a mouse and elephant, they still have the same number of heartbeats no matter what. It's true. Really? Yes. What is nature telling you? There is a power law at the basis of energy production. And it's called Cleaver's Law. You can look it up.

Okay. And there's a line. See the line right there? It doesn't matter where you are on the evolutionary path. You're always along the slope of that line. So what does that tell you? You're in a zero-sum game. And I remember when I learned about Kleber's law, that's when I realized that having really big muscles when you're human is a disadvantage.

And the point that I try to make to guys like Dom, guerrillas and chimps, what's the difference, the real difference between us and them? They have more intestinal than they have more muscle. They don't have frontal lobes. So they've made that change. They don't live as long as us. but we do it the other way, and our longevity is 20 to 30 years greater than theirs. So what is nature telling you? Where you bury your mitochondrial density is the key.

So you said something to me interesting about 10 minutes ago. Jack, what do you see the future? The future is if we keep using technology, that's stealing from us. It's causing electron steel. That what's going to go first? Our brains and our hearts. Now, that doesn't mean the first. first 30 or 40 years of our life that we can't do something amazing. To be honest,

you, that's what worries me about the transhumanists. I think that's really what they care about. They don't really care that Susan Wojikski died. She's 56. She's a useful idiot now. You know, it's going to be the people, the new people that they're training, are they thinking? Like, the Google engineers that are there now, I think they're really important to Google. But do they have a shelf life? Is there an expiration date for transhumanists? The answer is yes. And when you become a drag, that's when they want to get rid of you. You ask me the teleologic question, the 80,000 foot question. That's the reason I think that they think the way they think.

And I've discussed this with Nicole and her new boyfriend, and they actually agree with me. Why? Because they used to hang out with more of those assholes than anybody else. I don't let any of those people around me. To me, they're my moral enemy. Like I would sit down with probably Adolf Hitler before I'd sit down with Sergey Brin. That's the truth. Wow.

It's wild shit, man. Well, hopefully you have a little flavor of now. A little. Uncle Jack's chili. I've had a nice taste of Uncle Jack's chili, man. And I have a feeling and I hope you'll be back for more sometime one day in the future. This was a fascinating conversation, man. Thank you so much for your time.

I'm very grateful for it. No problem. Where can we tell people to visit your Patreon, your website, everything like that? It's Dr. Jack Cruz everywhere, like every social media place. The Patreon is patreon.com backslash Dr. Jack Cruz. My website is Dr. Jack Cruz.com. Go to the forms. The forms are free.

It'll take you literally 10 years. Hit the form button, Steve. Yeah, you got to register for the form. Unfortunately, you guys aren't registered. But if you go on there, that is like the walking, Library of Alexandria for quantum biology. It'll take you 10 or 15 years to get through there. I'm not kidding.

If you put my name and your disease in a box, dude, welcome to the jungle. Wow. That's fascinating. And believe it or not, that's why Rick, some of my friends, they want to do a movie about this because they feel like when someone dies, the library of their knowledge dies with them. And that's where I came up with the idea

to put all this on the form so that it's there. you can search it. The problem is a lot of people ask me, they want me to be a librarian, and I think you probably already figured out how well that goes. I'm not here to be your librarian. Patreon is designed for you to do DIY. That's where you start, I think,

with Jack Cruz. The more time you want with me, like say if you've got a disease, then you've got to become a member, like gold or platinum, that's when I give you one-on-one time. You can hire me as someone to rent my brain for an hour. I'll allow people to do that.

but I do not allow the general public to do it. You have to be a member either at the gold or platinum level. Why? Because I need you to know some of the basics. Like some of the stuff you and I covered today, you know, about Becker's work, about semi-conduction, about stuff like that. Like, if I start talking to you about what I want you do,

you're going to look at me and not know this. You're like, I just wasted money talking to this guy. And you probably did. But what I want to do is I want to elevate your game so that you understand where I'm coming from. and then I can easily now tell you, go read this book, go read that book. Like, in other words,

you don't have to believe me anymore. In the beginning, you had to. Now there's books out, but tell you I'm right. Definitely, man. Can I get you to, if I needed brain surgery, would you be able to do it? Or is that? Probably in El Salvador.

Oh, you'll do it into El Salvador. Well, Buceli's... How often do you do brain surgery, by the way? Last one I did was the last day that I practiced in the United States, which was August 6th, about... six weeks ago. No way. Way.

That's when I officially decided to become a free agent and start talking about what we talked about in the first two hours of the podcast. And I started doing brain surgery without a scalpel. And I basically told President Bucheli, and just like I told Bobby, Nicole and Trump, I'm a free agent now. You want me? Come get me. That's beautiful, man.

I love it. Well, thanks again. This was fascinating. And we'll link all your stuff below for people to check it out. Good night, everybody. Take care. Sleep tight.